PyHardmode 73x science multiplier | Factorio | Page 1

foggy iron Jan 29, 2025, 4:48 PM

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Yes, I'm back. And yes, I'm crazy.
I currently stream my playthrough over on twitch under the same name. I also post vods to youtube, for those interested. The progression is slow. But progression is progression.

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I'm not on my computer at the minute, but once I get around to it I'll post a few pictures

limpid frigate Jan 29, 2025, 10:59 PM

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wait why 73x? it just seems like an odd number to go for.

foggy iron Jan 29, 2025, 11:09 PM

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long story very short, girlfriend's idea

foggy iron Jan 29, 2025, 11:34 PM

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most of the base so far

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some science plans

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aiming for 180SPM

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log production, havent gotten around to building most of it yet

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and of course.... everything is in a power death spiral :)

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thats the next issue i need to fix

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my current energy output is the equivalent to that of a childs kite

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and buffers are overflowing everywhere :)

foggy iron Feb 4, 2025, 4:57 PM

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upgraded wood processing a bit, then steel... then brownout immediately

foggy iron Feb 4, 2025, 5:29 PM

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had to add another 2 power plants, then steal a line of coal from carbolic oil

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i was able to move most of the raw coal refining processes down to steel smelting, so it's all centralized for the most part

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i also upgraded iron processing with jaw crushers, so i get a bit of stone from that to supplement the pitiful stone mine

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the iron patch is running out fast, but i don't have enough output from the coal patch to power anything more, my base is already pushing the limits, so i need to tap a new coal patch first

foggy iron Feb 19, 2025, 5:30 PM

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a couple more brownouts later, and i have half of a powerplant running on a northwestern coal patch

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localized ash separation and soot separation included, just running a powerline back to the base

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eventually, i'll run soot and iron oxide to the base so nothing overflows there

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it has a self-contained generator, and independent coal supply

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also deals with the ash from coal mining (and eventually iron mining once i hook that up)

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right now the base is on life support, only running iron production cause i need so much of it

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when trying to find water for the powerplant, i found a mediocre iron patch a few chunks north. much closer than the one fifteen chunks west, but oh well. i have another for when i need it

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pics to come soon

foggy iron Feb 20, 2025, 8:24 PM

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iron and steel processing

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(pitiful) initial iron patch, almost gone at 20 hours

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stone bricks (mostly from iron ore crushing)

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science! bottlenecked by stone brick production

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labs & starter coal patch

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primary powerplant, most likely gonna remove once i get the secondary dedicated plant up and running

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just researched the car while taking the pics... normal techs take (roughly) 30 seconds to complete

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just to show how overkill this is

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coal patch and powerplant (it doesnt fit on screen)

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i'll probably remove soot separation from here once i get the rest of it running and move it down to the main base where i can use the resources... but i'm definitely gonna be separating the ash on-site, i already have something like 5 belts of it running around when everything is running full steam

mild ether Mar 1, 2025, 4:24 PM

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how´s it going? I already heard a bit about pyanodons and I´d love to see this game going on

foggy iron Mar 1, 2025, 6:42 PM

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I do plan on streaming it tonight, i have some updates

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Ill also probably update this log

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 2:42 AM

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streaming now if you're interested
https://twitch.tv/protocol_1903

Twitch

protocol_1903 - Twitch

Factorio Pyanodons Hardmode x73

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 11:03 AM

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thanks for the information, was a bit too late for me yesterday, was already sleeping but over the next week I think I´ll be more avavible to watch

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 5:01 PM

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Ill update this and/or stream again todsy

tribal moon Mar 2, 2025, 6:00 PM

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if you're as crazy me, you could also do something like x5k

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I'm doing a space age x10k run right now

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 6:04 PM

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I think pyanodons is hard enough on it´s own, the recepy chains which scared me off before even looking at the pyanodons mod. I am doing an absurd SA vanilla challange combo which will take over 500 hours to finish, pyanodons I think is about the same time if not more on it´s own

tribal moon Mar 2, 2025, 6:05 PM

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I'd say my x10k run will probably take several thousand hours to finish

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it took me 500 hours just to get chemical science

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 6:06 PM

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oh, my current SA run took 155 hours to chem science and that´s with x10 research cost

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by now I know that even with x100 it would still not be slower by much due to quality challange

tribal moon Mar 2, 2025, 6:08 PM

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I can't wait until I can get to vulcanus

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That'll make science production much easier

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 6:09 PM

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and I can´t wait for insanity Glebba, my first planet after nauvis

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that´ll make building my factory much easier

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 6:55 PM

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pY is long enough of an experience. doing it with any science multiplier above like 10x causes it to get much longer. hardmode again makes it longer, but with a science multiplier this time compounds. and i'm thinking of adding some rules as far as TURDS go, which will also make it longer

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if i really wanted to play this one save for the next couple decades... then x5k is the way to go

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 6:57 PM

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what´s TURDS?

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 6:58 PM

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it also doesn't add any interesting complexity above 100x other than 'does it stack' so it just makes the game longer for the case of making the game longer. 10x-100x is where the real complexity lies, you spend more time doing research and need more than a couple buildings of infrastructure, so you need to plan things out more. temporary builds wont cut it

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TURDs are optional researchable upgrades to different recipe chains and buildings that improve/modify recipes or machines. stuff like making recipes faster, adding more efficient recipes, other ways to make items/fluids, etc.

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each of the researches is much longer than normal tech for that tier, and each one gives you three options for which upgrades you would like

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 7:01 PM

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I am so happy that I don´t touch py

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 7:01 PM

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a TURD compared to its base counterpart

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 7:02 PM

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yep, basically a x10 research multiplyer on those few techs

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 7:03 PM

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for moondrops, i can have them consume copper for much higher production ratios, a new recipe for methane, or a free co2 recipe. each of these options might also change how the building works, in the second option making it 50% slower but with 35% productivity, in the last choice making it 50% faster but consume 100% more power

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these building modifications affect all buildings on the map, not just those making the new recipes

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 7:04 PM

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great... everything no longer in ratio

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sounds like pain

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 7:04 PM

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usually you unlock them early enough to not have a ton of production already existing

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and most of the upgrades aren't super base breaking in most cases

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new copper mine going up, the old one is basically empty

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 7:07 PM

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yay burner drills and inserters!... with... water?!

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 7:08 PM

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doubled up iron production

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 7:08 PM

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mild ether yay burner drills and inserters!... with... water?!

yup, copper needs water to mine

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 7:08 PM

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fun...

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 7:09 PM

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current copper mine (rip starting resources)

mild ether Mar 2, 2025, 7:09 PM

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I think I´ll wait till the stream is up and then ask like a million questions

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 7:10 PM

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stuff to make carbolic oil so i can mine stone (i dont have recipes to deal with byproducts yet so i havent built it yet)

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current powerplant design, i still need to finish the last stack

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base atm, the coal patch in the bottom right i need to tap for the copper mine

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i'll probably have stream up in the next hour or so, i need sustinence

sly epoch Mar 2, 2025, 7:33 PM

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Bet

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 8:30 PM

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stream is up

foggy iron Mar 2, 2025, 9:43 PM

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@sly epoch @mild ether ^^

foggy iron Mar 6, 2025, 12:54 AM

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the iron mine just finally ran out. rip starter resources.

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some minor spaghetti

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copper and iron smelting, kinda neat imo

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-# hold on gotta drive to the copper mine

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final copper mine design

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-# aaaand all the way back

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carbolic oil for stone mining, a lot of it doesn't work because the buffers keep filling up. i dont have tech to deal with some of it so i need to keep researching

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most of one powerplant. rather, what i can do without splitting belts. each boiler section isn't limited by the coal belt, rather by the amount of ash processing one machine can do, which is about 67% of a yellow belt. if i was desperate enough i could split off the lines and make the other three sections, which i might do eventually. but i think that'd be easier with splitters