Circuit controlled rocket launches?

[swift drift]

make a thread

[sage bison]

Yeah, probably best at this point.

[swift drift]

Circuit controlled rocket launches?

[sage bison]

I told you why mods aren't good enough.

[wide pendant]

Yeah and I get you, I'm a vanilla purist as well

But then you just have to deal with how it is in vanilla

Or post on the forums, maybe the devs see your views and change it

As to the details of your issue, I disagree, I think it's a balance issue and I like the balance

I already spelled out why, I'm not gonna repeat myself again

[swift drift]

I mean circuit controlled rocket silos wouldn't really affect you

[sage bison]

I don't see how this affects balance.

[wide pendant]

Yeah I'm pretty much neutral to the idea of it

I personally don't see the point but that's just me

[sage bison]

It's a me thing, honestly.

[wide pendant]

Me being forced to spend time manually doing something is tedious but it's almost a necessity your first space platform unless you scale massively before then

[sage bison]

Not having that level of control bothers me, even if I don't need it.

[swift drift]

Its reasonable but I would be interested in if any mod like that exists to try it out first

just to see what circuit is required

[wide pendant]

Automating it was a resource investment at that stage of the game for me, I could choose not to invest that or to do so

These kinds of choices of where to invest time and resources at X stage of my playthrough, I quite enjoy

And I think the balance of that, in the expansion, is very well done 🤷‍♂️

If I could cheese it with circuits I would though

[sage bison]

I just don't see how automated mixed launches would change that balance.

[wide pendant]

And not really think about the earlier resource cost of launching rockets (which becomes negligible over time)

[wide pendant]

It would mean I would not be spending time manually loading rockets to save on my first few launches

[sage bison]

Only thing I can think of is that it requires producing more items than you need if you don't want to do manual launches.

[swift drift]

Factorio actively encourages you to use circuits to be more efficient look at thrusters and space ship design in general

[wide pendant]

If I could cheese it, I would cheese it

I can't cheese it though

And I feel like this was deliberate

[swift drift]

Well there is an FFF on this very topic

[wide pendant]

And in my experience of the gameplay of the expansion this works well

[buoyant rune]

do you use a lot of circuits?

[swift drift]

I use a ton ever since I figured out how to do LTN in vanilla basically

[sage bison]

I use them when I think they're helpful.

[wide pendant]

That's irrelevant, if I could use circuits to cheapen my first few rocket launches + automate them, I would.

[sage bison]

Nothing too complicated, though. Mostly because I don't want to debug them.

[wide pendant]

I'd make a blueprint that works for that and then copy that blueprint to all my future playthroughs

[buoyant rune]

i mean, i was curious

lol

[wide pendant]

To make the building of my first few platforms as cheap as possible

But imo it'd cheapen the balance

[buoyant rune]

i find a lot of my issues are technically possible to solve but way harder without circuits

[wide pendant]

I do

[buoyant rune]

or at least, signifigantly more space inefficent

[wide pendant]

This is what makes circuits fun imo 😛

[swift drift]

The complexity of circuits is the balance. But realistically balance doesn't matter in this case imo

[sage bison]

In my playthrough, most of the cost of those first platforms came from the foundation.

Not the rockets.

[wide pendant]

You probably built bigger than I did before going to space

[buoyant rune]

i found it very irritating that the only way was a system i just dont understand, despite interfacing with it a decent amount now

[swift drift]

Realistically a debate about balance of allowing rocket silos to be controlled via circuits just isn't interesting

[wide pendant]

Yup

[buoyant rune]

though luckily the 1-to-1 circuits are very easy, like tank to pump

[wide pendant]

There'd be more well thought out replies on the forum though

[swift drift]

I mean basically what you would need is the rocket silos to work like requester chests and send it a specific signal to launch?

[wide pendant]

points at forum again

[sage bison]

We heard you. But some of us seeking to enjoy the discussion are already gathered here.

[wide pendant]

I mean this genuinely, you would get much better thought out responses on the forum, people there are more willing to engage in detailed discussion of exactly these types of ideas where here, the topic is more likely to die

But maybe it won't 🙂