SPOILERS - 86's prerelease Q&A thread

[simple parcel]

Feel free to ask your Space Age questions here

[lethal timber]

All questions refer to pre-space Nauvis. If something changes later on I don't want to know.

1. What are the recipe changes to Nauvis items? Rocket parts, power poles, satellites etc etc.
2. What's the recipe for space platform items? From the starter pack to crushers, thrusters, fuel, platform extensions, space science in space, everything before your first interplanetary journey.
3. Any details about the space platform building mechanics that weren't clear in the fff?
4. What's the weight for the most common items you would want to send? What's the weight limit for a single rocket?

[rough wagon]

tech tree pics pls

[pine plaza]

What’s a bacchus

[ocean orchid]

What would you say is the biggest thing that hasn't been revealed to us already?

[hasty orchid]

tell us your favorite things about SA

[lethal timber]

Can you tell I had that ready to go

[rough steeple]

"give early access code"

[quasi thicket]

Can i see a screen shot of after beating the game

[meager tapir]

Does Fulgora has enemies?

[simple parcel]

1. most things are the same. Satellites don't exist anymore in Space Age. The only way to get is crafting it on a platform

[lethal timber]

Ah, that's different from fff. No more early science tech at low cost then? Alright

[simple parcel]

2. lemme boot up the game and check.
3. You can get very creative with your platform design as long as there's no completely closed holes. You can use to bridge gaps if you want to get very creative. cannot bridge gaps though, they need to go through actual platform.

[granite snow]

What science pack is mech armor?

Oh, if you’re booting up the game, can you send screenshots of all the planet’s factoriopedia pages? So we can see all the exclusive recipes

[simple parcel]

Most regular items fill a rocket with 1 stack (50 or 100 items)

Every item has as part of its tooltip the stack limit and the rocket cargo limit

[simple parcel]

I haven't beaten the game yet so sorry no

[autumn parcel]

Whats the Shattered Planet?

[lethal timber]

Alright, I'll try to avoid the channel from now on. Ping me for the space platform recipes please?

[simple parcel]

Yeah no more very early lol, you have to shoot up like 10-20 rockets to get your first platform set up before getting any.

[quasi thicket]

What happens after you launch just a single rocket?

[simple parcel]

Your first rocket will be sending the "space platform starter pack" into space. But you can't do anything with your space platform until you send up more materials to do with it.

[quasi thicket]

Nice

[simple parcel]

Space Platform Foundation: 20 20
Cargo Bay: 20 5 20
Asteroid Collector: 5 Electric Engine Unit 8 20
Asteroid Crusher: 10 Electric Engine Unit 10 20
Space Platform Thruster: 10 10 Electric Engine Unit 5
Space Platform starter Pack: 20 20 Space Platform Foundation 60

[lethal timber]

That's so cheap

[quasi thicket]

Would you say that‘s cheap

[simple parcel]

It's a pretty sizable investment for how early you unlock them. Lots of and electric engine units and those are annoying to set up. You can unlock space platforms right after finishing

[rustic agate]

Is there a space map?

[simple parcel]

Yes.

[ocean orchid]

honestly i would say that those aren't too bad early on

[rustic agate]

Could you show a screenshot of it?

[simple parcel]

They're not too bad but especially the space platform foundation is EXPENSIVE bc that's the cost of adding ONE TILE to your space platform

[ocean orchid]

ahh, yeah, i can see how that adds up. Though i guess at least it doesn't take LDS like in SE

[simple parcel]

One sec lemme transfer it from Steam Deck

[lethal timber]

Oh I did not think that. I stand corrected.

[rustic agate]

Oh and something else i was wondering, can the agriculture tower do stuff outside of Gleba? Like Nauvis trees

[lethal timber]

Alright, bye forever now. Thank you!

[quasi thicket]

Are you able to play space age at all times or was it only possible at the lan Party

[simple parcel]

sprry its zoomed out so much

[granite snow]

What science pack is mech armor?

Look it up in tech tree

[simple parcel]

I was not able to go to the lan party (tho I was invited). I got access afterwards.

[hasty orchid]

soulburn said fulgora @granite snow

[quasi thicket]

👍

What‘s the best planet to go first

[simple parcel]

All Nauvis science packs + + Fulgora pack

[granite snow]

Neato, thanks

[hasty orchid]

so is power armor 2 unlockable before leaving nauvis?

[granite snow]

Also, could you do this please? If it’s not a problem

Actually, do you even have their pages of you didn’t research them?

[simple parcel]

My favorite little thing is how early Mining Prod and Steel Production Prod techs are. I haven't even left Nauvis and I'm at 60% mining prod and 40% steel prod.

[simple parcel]

You can look up anything in factoripedia at any time

[granite snow]

That’s great for me

[quasi thicket]

/ where did you go first

[hasty orchid]

that is huge w/ prod tech

how expensive is the starting levels of the tech?

[simple parcel]

In my current game I'm ramping up for my first trip to Fulgora

[simple parcel]

Pretty expensive. Starts in the thousands of packs.

[quasi thicket]

What stuff do you after you reached Shattered planet

Like what do you do with prometheum

[simple parcel]

Not much has been revealed about Shattered Planet even to beta testers but it's the post-game

[quasi thicket]

Oh lol okay

[simple parcel]

Space Age equivalent of grinding out rockets per minute for

[quasi thicket]

btw can you tell me what the message box says after you reached the edge (i had a fun lil argument with someone before lol)

[simple parcel]

I think that's all of them

[quasi thicket]

Thanks!!!

[granite snow]

👍

Wait where’s Gleba

[simple parcel]

Pls let me know if I missed anything or if I duped, Steam gets weird when I'm uploading multiples at once

Oh I missed Gleba

[granite snow]

Cool

Recipe list of biochamber? I heard it has apparently changed

[rustic agate]

How do space platform schedules work?

[simple parcel]

Lots of fun stuff in that list. Like ||Fish breeding||

[simple parcel]

Very similar if not exactly the same as Train schedules

Unlike trains though it's beneficial to park space platforms above planets permamently if you want.

(depending on what the platform does)

[granite snow]

I KNEW it
Oil product recipes are all bioflux+lower tier thing

Well, most, I guess

Also, spoilage burning is in the biochamber now?

I’m surprised

I thought it was neat to put it in the furnace

Oh well

What are the recipes of bioflux and carbon fiber? Are they jelly+mash and carbon+mash?

Oh hey, new landfill icon looks sick

[quasi thicket]

@simple parcel can you tell me Everything bout quantum stuff

[granite snow]

From the looks of things, there isn’t much to it

[quasi thicket]

wasted potential

Factorio: New Dimensions

[granite snow]

I sort of agree…
Edit: Nvm not after that second message

[simple parcel]

Bioflux is 15 yumako Mash and 12 Jelly
Carbon Fiber is 1 carbon and 10 yumako mash

[granite snow]

Oh, thanks for also giving the ratios

[quasi thicket]

that second was a joke lol

[hasty orchid]

do enemy bases expand in gleba?

[simple parcel]

I haven't been to gleba so I don't knoww

[thorn tapir]

I live about an hour away. If I drive to your house with a flash drive, can I copy your installation of the DLC?

[simple parcel]

No

[thorn tapir]

All cool man, you can just email me the full installation folder. No biggie.

Real question: How's performance on lower end systems preserved? Normal factorio runs really well on bad systems up until basically endgame

I assume there's just a decent amount of "other shit going on" but but its mostly normal expansion you would do on Nauvis

[simple parcel]

I haven't noticed any appreciable difference in performance. There's more going on but the devs have optimized a lot of the codebase so it mostly evens out I guess

And I'm mostly playing on not super high end stuff

[thorn tapir]

Cool, that's what I was hoping. How bad is it going to be to pull off 100% completion?

Does 2.0 have more achievements or does SA have all of the new cheevos

[simple parcel]

I haven't tried Vanilla 2.0 but SA has TONS of new achievements

You're gonna need to play in very specific ways to get 100% achievements in one save

[thorn tapir]

Is it even possible?

[simple parcel]

I'd assume so? But some achievements would require very specific play styles

[proud jay]

So car and tank got equipment grids and have remote support. Are they just kinda "direct control" remote drivable, or does the RTS remote for them?

[granite snow]

Only tank does, I believ

And yes it’s only direct manual driving

And they also lack built in radars

[proud jay]

oh awkward

does tank get logistic requests?

[granite snow]

Nope

But remote handfeeding is possible

You can remotely place ghost items into any slot

And construction bots will deliver them

[proud jay]

nifty

[simple parcel]

Yeah you can remotely control the tanks

But not just command them like spidertrons

Notably, equipment grid means a tank can heal itself

[proud jay]

and have shields

but can you toggle the personal roboport on the tank ^^

[simple parcel]

I have not gotten that far yet

[proud jay]

Atari prepared me for this day

[thorn tapir]

Is there a planned timezone for the release? I'm going on a road trip on Friday, so I'm really hoping I can download it before I leave and ride shotgun while I use a shotgun

Oh, also, what new map generation settings are there? And how do they effect otherworldly enemies?

[simple parcel]

"around lunch time" Prague time

[simple parcel]

Each planet has separate ore/resource gen sliders. There's no planet specific sliders for enemies though

[thorn tapir]

M, ok. Does the funny worm get impacted by the terrain gen? Im honestly not up to date

[pine plaza]

No

Demolishers don’t care about any obstacles

[simple parcel]

They, uh, demolish everything

[rustic agate]

are there any new 2.0 QoL features we haven't seen in FFF's yet?

[granite snow]

Remote tanks count, I guess?

[pine plaza]

Yes. Spiders too

Pipe placement is also much better

Underground pipe placement I mean

[stoic nexus]

Is there any new QoL to prevent you accidentaly unequipping armor i.e. spilling your inventory on the ground?

[granite snow]

Yes

It was announced by devs on forums a while ago

iirc

[simple parcel]

Yeah the little "undergrounds turn green at max length" is great

[pine plaza]

Not that

Dragging underground pipes are now better at choosing where to place the underground’s

I think the underground visualization is kinda useless compared to the modded version

The modded version works with ghosts but the in game one doesn’t

[simple parcel]

Ah yeah that too

[granite snow]

If it’s not a problem, could I see the recipes of the rocket turret and tesla ammo?

[simple parcel]

@granite snow

[granite snow]

Oh, thanks a lot!

[stoic nexus]

Is tank equipment grid increased by quality? Both dimensions by one or just one dimension?

[simple parcel]

@stoic nexus yes and both

AFAIK all items with an equipment grid increase on both axes

[stoic nexus]

Thanks! That means increased quality is waaaay better for tank, similarly to all armors with grid.

[simple parcel]

Yup if you can somehow get a power armor early that's a huge boon

[granite snow]

What’s the agri tower recipe like? It has to be something super simple, right?

[simple parcel]

I just woke up, gimme a few mins

[granite snow]

No worries

[simple parcel]

10 steel, 3 green circuits, 20 spoilage, 1 landfill

[granite snow]

Another landpilled recipe

Amazing

[granite snow]

Also, whenever it’s convenient, could you please check the factoriopedia for something? I want to know what benefits reactors/heaters, heat exchangers/boilers and turbines/steam engines gain from quality

[simple parcel]

Oh, what stats they gain from quality?

Sure

[granite snow]

Yes, thank you

[simple parcel]

Boiler/heat exchanger: HP, water/fuel consumption rate, steam creation rate (all goes up)
Steam engine/turbine: HP, steam consumption, electricity generation rate
Fission/fusion reactor: higher fuel consumption rate and higher energy/heat output rate

[granite snow]

Ah, so they’re throughput increases

Neat

[simple parcel]

In all cases you don't get more energy out per fuel but they burn through the fuel faster, yeah

[granite snow]

I suppose if all three steps had an energy increase, that might get a little crazy

I mean, just an uncommon setup would be more than twice as powerful

I guess I should have seen this coming

[stoic nexus]

Good for space platforms I guess?

How power hungry are pre-aquilo platforms?

[simple parcel]

Most of your travel (maybe with the exception of Fulgora orbit) can be powered with

Big platforms or platforms going to Aquilo will definitely need

[candid osprey]

worth noting too that pollution increases proportionally for the boiler

[wary frigate]

@mint coral

[mint coral]

Does anyone know if the biolabs have their science depletion modifyer improved with higher quality like the large miners do?

[pine plaza]

it does not get better with quality, though you can mod that in easilly

since theres a prototype property for that

(one of the few places where a prototype has the ability to control how quality affects it)

[hasty orchid]

random question, but if someone is remote controlling a tank, do you know if it shows the name of the person controlling it?

[simple parcel]

I don't know and I don't think I have a way to test that

[thorn tapir]

Would you say you'll get the most bang from your buck from doing a 2.0 playthrough first to get accustomed, a Space Age playthrough, go into the editor and get familiar with the new stuff, or play another scenario?

[simple parcel]

IMO just head straight into a new Space Age save. Most of the Nauvis stuff is the same as 2.0 anyway.

[thorn tapir]

are there other new scenarios?

[quasi thicket]

do you think personally whole of factorio and space age is worth 64€

[thorn tapir]

Oh also how is PVP preserved with space age?

[simple parcel]

Yes

[quasi thicket]

should i scam my gradnma out of 20€ so i can afford space age /j

[thorn tapir]

No, normal factorio is still good. But do get it

[simple parcel]

I don't think so but I didn't check that closely.