#Missing tech prerequesites in modded factorio

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oak bronze
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hi

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can't see

lyric olive
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which part?

oak bronze
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oh sawa it

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saw'

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@lyric olive do you want to hop to vc? Could be easier

lyric olive
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no mic

oak bronze
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no problem, I could stream and look at your responses here

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would still ease having to write every thing im confused about

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Im at a voice channel if u wanna come

lyric olive
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sure give me a few minutes

oak bronze
lyric olive
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the annoyance rn is the overlay

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cant both see ur stream and type

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well you need to follow the prompt lol

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it wants you to select the executable

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click that and itll give you a file explorer

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yea that

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you need to select the exe there

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ah fuc youre on steam aint u

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yea that separates exe and mods folder

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look for your steam install folder

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steam/commonapps/factorio iirc

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bin

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ye also hitting reload here is fine

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go back to your files

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in vsc lol

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you unzipped one of those right?

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you can search that with right click now

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like right click the folder

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the second thing there shows you that its defining those but the util looks like it just got copied from somewhere

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if you click them itll redirect you to the spot where its found that

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so here's the annoying part you need to figure out if and if yes how it changes the tech prerequesites

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the mods doing it like that yes

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is there anything else in this file?

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below the declaration

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ye

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yea thats the tech initialisation and then it throws that into data:raw

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so unless it does something after this its not this mod

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hm idea, go to the tech definition

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no at the bottom where you just were

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yea that jetpack tech thing

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its giving it a name

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so go to the definition of pack 2

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the thing on the left

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the prerequesite 2 thing

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when you click on the prerequesite= on the left itll get you to the defintion of the jetpack techs

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you want the defntion of the jetpack thats messing up

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ye coz u hit 3, not 2

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its that one

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yea and im a tad annoyed coz it doesnt have a name definition

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go back down past the definitions

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it is given one somewhere

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aj

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its the ["name"] in the definition its using

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and that'd be "jetpack-2"

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what you can do now is set a breakpoint after files that manipulate tech

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if it makes changes to tech

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at the bottom you want to to set a breakpoint

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personally i use if true then return end for breakpoints because it cant actually set breakpoints at the end of a file

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yea copy that to the end and left click of it on the line number

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yep

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yea now go to the arrow with a bug symbol

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left menu bar

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you need to hit the 'create launch.json' ting

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otherwise it launches with the wrong args

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yea you can just close that file

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it set it up for what you need

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now select in the top left the thing that has 'settings and data' in its name

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its a dropdown

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green arrow

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you need to select the right start thing

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like i said its in the dropdown

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no that just changes how you lanuch

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it doesnt actually launch it

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which you want to do noow that youve selcted it

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it should stop on the breakpoint

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yes t should

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what happens if you press F5 instead?

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it SHOULD stay permanently

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something's closing your game instantly

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i cant debug THAT lol

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personally i think steam's a bit fucked and i use the standalone

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it might be an issue with steam here

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maybe its in a protected folder or something bleh

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well, like i said its probably a steam issue with it instantly closing down the game

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havent seen that bug before personally

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but for me standalone works under W11

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its like 1.7 GB it wont take that long to download

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you want the .zip version

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not the installer

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i have only ever wrangled the standalone in zip form bc i feared stuff like that might happen lol

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you can literally just hit ctrl c on your mods folder and should be fine

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but once you have it unzipped you need to re-select the executable

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on the topic of extra mods ther might be a way to brute force the techs

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hold up

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yea i need to think for a sec

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ye

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hm making a loop for cleansing this might take a moment

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sure

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almost done but ofc not tested

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yes but it would add the science packs its depending on as prerequesites

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if theres no tech for unlocking the recipe itll ignore that

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only the science packs

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paste this in your mod folder and see if it works

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its 100% untested so i make no guarantees

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yes but that would likely need to be done per-mod

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yes and no? this would require scanning for the techs that unlock those recipes

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and probably a lot more complicated than that above

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so did it work?

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hm thats weird lmc smth

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bleh and your debugger doesnt work so this cant be checked why it fails

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wdym a recipe doesnt have a result

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ur download finished?

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yea have you unzipped it somewhere and copied your mods?

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yea

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move that to a proper directory lol

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dont keep it in downloads

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program files is good

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personally i do a separate folder that says standalone

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single files are fucked on unzip

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its all the graphics n stuff thats like 6 bytes

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...fuck expensive mode man

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hold up

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yea but the prototypes do

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so it fucks the loop

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yea

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the mods folder yes

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then you also change the thing in your VSC to the proper exe

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you copied before extraction finished im pretty sure

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itll ask u to replace, hit yes

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you can still check if it runs at all

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different error tho

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ah its optional

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so i need to check if its nil

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simple fix luckily holup

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there

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yea

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im not bothering with different versions here

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hm interesting that shoudlnt happen

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ur factorio unzipped by now?

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thats correct this time

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move it to ur programm fles

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top level folder

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just copy the mods folder to where the config path is

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like where u are rn

sharp flume
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it can work like this?

lyric olive
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wym

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go to vsc and re-set your exe btw

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wrong thing

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ye

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name that standalone ideally

sharp flume
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i thought you mean "config" as config where data folder was and not config from %appdata%

lyric olive
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check if the f5 thing actually works

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hm thats really interesting

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your version lock might be fucked?

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bleh this is above my paygrade

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can you launch your game without my mod, make a save, immediately leave, and post that save here?

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ill debug it from my end

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thats fine i need to reset my mods anyway

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thats probably coz the science pack mod does a bunch of loops

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if you always run the same modpack you might want to enable caching

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alr then

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caching stores data from startup but it resets as soon as a fly sneezes on it

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so its only useful if you never change mods and settings

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i mean if you make two factorio installs it would work

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yea i figured lol

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yes i can

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thats what im doing

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oh

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yea

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not really? maybe if you check the ingredients of the recipe but that'd end up in a terrible spiderweb of tech dependencies

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liek

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assume jetpack-2 needs jetpack-1, motors, and red circuits

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either i make it require all those as prerequesite or have to scan somehow if at this point they're forced to be unllocked

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and recursively searching a tree liek that is SLOW

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maybe but it could break if theres more than one research unlocking a recipe

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you can ctrl-click new game btw to get a mod sync save

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on the main screen

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brilliant

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so msi is fucked

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just makek a normal save then bruh

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doesnt matter

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uh

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maybe it saved the map constraints wtf

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advanced

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just save quit then

oak bronze
lyric olive
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this might take a moment

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thats a problem for the dev team and/or @ripe peak (r u available?) (context: this guy hits 'start game' and it instantly stops itself)

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like seriously how tf does it just instant quit

oak bronze
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Loop over all techs
  If tech has no prereq then
    see if tech has prereqs
      set the prereqs
lyric olive
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jarg made FMTK for context

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should know why its not launching

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no but if you ever want to mod urself...

ripe peak
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And I really hate being pinged with no context

lyric olive
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you never told me that, apologies

ripe peak
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I definitely have

oak bronze
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oh yeah cus that happened when I was streaming

ripe peak
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But also it's just basic etiquette

oak bronze
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I think @lyric olive can explain what's happening better than me

lyric olive
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thats fair, its just that i dont see an issue getting pinged myself

sharp flume
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check the logs

lyric olive
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so since i forgot you mentioned that i thought it wouldnt be an issue for you

ripe peak
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well you need to work on that then, because a lot of people do and you're living up to your name

lyric olive
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yea ill keep that in mind

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can you help out here with the vsc issue we're having though?

ripe peak
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there is nothing here for me to help with

oak bronze
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oh?

ripe peak
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no problem desciption, no context

lyric olive
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like, this guy is hitting 'F5', the debug pause-stop bar appears on the top for a split second, and then vanishes

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happens with both steam and standalone

ripe peak
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what's the log/debug console say?

oak bronze
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Where did you go @lyric olive ?

ripe peak
oak bronze
ripe peak
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you're the one with the needed information

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what does the log/debug console say?

lyric olive
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my discord crashed

oak bronze
lyric olive
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jarg means that the game should show a log/console when you launch it via vsc

ripe peak
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if you want help, answer eth question

oak bronze
lyric olive
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its usually at the bottom

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oak bronze
lyric olive
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if it doesnt show you might need to hover over the bottom thing and pull it up

sharp flume
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log should be in %appdata% of factorio

oak bronze
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multiple mod list json

ripe peak
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wha folder is open as your workspace?

lyric olive
ripe peak
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and why are there multiple mod-list.jsons in it?

oak bronze
ripe peak
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probably

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why did you stop answering questions?

lyric olive
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maybe? i assumed it would just go mods/mod-list and be done with it

oak bronze
ripe peak
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what folder did you open in vscode?

oak bronze
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mods

ripe peak
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why is there another mods tree inside it?

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that should never happen

oak bronze
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THis is what my mods folder looks like

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the testmod is a mod which fixes a thing

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_mods is my modpack folder

ripe peak
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move that somewhere else

oak bronze
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okay

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wait does it matter that there's two jetpack mods there?

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unzipped and a zipped one

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otherwise same

ripe peak
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is it another mods tree with a mod-list.json in it?

oak bronze
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no

ripe peak
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then no

oak bronze
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IT launched now

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sharp flume
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see the console at the bottom?

oak bronze
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yes

ripe peak
sharp flume
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yes i am

oak bronze
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@lyric olive are you debugging the thing on your end?

lyric olive
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would need your test mod thing for that

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this is to fix the VSC thing anyway

oak bronze
lyric olive
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no

oak bronze
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are you debugging that

lyric olive
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ah so youre not fixing a crash with that

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then i can do this

oak bronze
lyric olive
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ye

oak bronze
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ah no, It's just to fix the burner lab. It didn't accept the correct sciences

lyric olive
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heads up debugging makes the game slow down so it might take a hot minute to even get to the error

oak bronze
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uh my debug vscode factorio thing didn't work. It's stuck on loading jetpack but whatever

lyric olive
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its probably just taking forever

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did you change the profile

sharp flume
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what does the console in vscode say?

lyric olive
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that yellow thing means its stuck on the breakpoint or a crash

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also imma not watch ur stream with that noise in the background

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yea but then i cant her you talk

sharp flume
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there is a 3 dot button near the small stream icon

lyric olive
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yea that worked

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im waiting for it to get there

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like i said debugging slows the game down NOTICEABLY

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on specific occasions by a factor of x30

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doubtful

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should be in the same ish area

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its stuck on k2 rn

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yea

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funny thing actually

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this error doesnt happen with base

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so one of the mods didnt properly define their science

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ye base game

sharp flume
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base mod?

sharp flume
lyric olive
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this aint minecraft

sharp flume
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i know

lyric olive
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yea

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oh there we go

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hm i see why this happened

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i THINK someone is using a nothing -> nothing recipe in the rocket silo for some script nonsense

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so the results dont exist

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yep

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because like a sane person i expected a recipe to have a result

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to be fair

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im about to do something similar in one of my mods so i cant really talk

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nah a magic mod

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overhaul style

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well part of it

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oh for fucks sake one of your mods isnt looping properly pain

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hold up

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ill just cache the offending part

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SE PP touches basically everything

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so does MSI

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thats not really an indicator

sharp flume
oak bronze
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short for Mining space Industries

sharp flume
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oh ok

oak bronze
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But I think obnoxiuus meaned MSP

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many science packs

sharp flume
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yeah i thought of it

sharp flume
lyric olive
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good question actually

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might be the more science packs

sharp flume
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maybe they are trying to overlap each other?

lyric olive
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well more science packs is doing some sort of massive loop from what i can tell

sharp flume
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you need to unpack it before putting it into vs code

lyric olive
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i meant from how long its loading

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theres no crash

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ye?

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ts loading

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loading as on mods loading

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one of those might screw it yea

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just wait a sec

sharp flume
lyric olive
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loading new map is taking forever too

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yep

sharp flume
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i don't think my dual-core intel i5 could even handle running the game if it takes you so much time to at least load the game

lyric olive
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mind explaining why factorio is eating 12 GB ram on that

oak bronze
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uhh

lyric olive
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its also laggy asf despite not eating all resources

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define in game

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im stuck in the cutscene for the last 3 minutes

sharp flume
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like it's just stuck or it's moving a frame a minute?

lyric olive
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frame a minute but i need to restart to check something

sharp flume
oak bronze
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I could give you a save which is after the start cutscene?

lyric olive
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that aint going to help much here

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its not changing the tech so i need to check if mine fails or if a different mod fucks it

sharp flume
oak bronze
sharp flume
lyric olive
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yep

sharp flume
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i see

lyric olive
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what u can do is uninstall MSP and launch the game and see if it still has the fucked tech

sharp flume
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oh he's playing ultrakill

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?

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oh yes

lyric olive
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a bit

sharp flume
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i wonna but i don't have it

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i only played demo

lyric olive
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remove that then

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wont impact this

sharp flume
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just comment that part

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actually i have a cracked version(i know that cracking games isn't really legal, but i don't think i can even buy it on steam.my first set country is russia in where you can't put money on your steam)

lyric olive
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since science is global a new save wont change things

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guess its not MSP then

sharp flume
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@oak bronze

lyric olive
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doubtful bc SE and JEtpack are made by the same guy

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hm

sharp flume
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oh finaally i finished the framework for pygame

lyric olive
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yes

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lmc ur screenshot

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ye

oak bronze
lyric olive
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yea you got a bunch to check

sharp flume
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maybe your SE Postprocess Tech tree is broken?

lyric olive
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thats kind of required for SE

sharp flume
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maybe reinstalling it?

lyric olive
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im still waiting on it loading

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honestly your mod stack is too big to do this easily

sharp flume
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oh yeah i mean that pedgux might have the wrong version of the mod loading

lyric olive
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your best option is to make a fix mod that runs after all the listed mods and manually fix it by setting the tech prerequesites i guess

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its been stuck on the same entry for like 10 minutes here

sharp flume
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so just write the tech tree using a mod?

lyric olive
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like, make a mod that has a data-final-fixes, and set the prerequesites of the things up there

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this is taking way too long lol

oak bronze
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aw man u left the call

oak bronze
lyric olive
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yea i dont have all day

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what you want to do is ctrl-shift-f the tech to see its name

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then in your fix mod go 'tech.prerequesites = { "name-1", "name-2"} etc

oak bronze
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understandable. But for the techs which have missing prereqs, are the prereqs initialized?

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correctly

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like Can I access them

lyric olive
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well if its in the tech tree it can be used as a prereq

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prerequesites are technology names

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so if the tech exists it can be used as prerequesite

oak bronze
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yeah and they have initialized them as a table per research / entity

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like jetpack3 had jetpack 2 and engines as a prereq

lyric olive
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its an array listing the tech names but yea i guess?

oak bronze
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can I access that?

lyric olive
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like i said you can use it if it exists in the tech tree

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you use the tech name, not the recipe name

oak bronze
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wait dym

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wdym'

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hold on

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I meaned these, these are like listed here @lyric olive

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Will I just have to re-list these in an other mod?

lyric olive
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yea i guess

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just

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with the correct accesspath because by then its in data.raw

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data.raw.technology["jetpack-3"].prerequesites in this case

oak bronze
lyric olive
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i just did?

sharp flume
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oh i see

lyric olive
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replace jetpack-3 with the tech name and the part after that is just the prerequesites

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just

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wait nvmind

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was thinking wrong

sharp flume
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was that Finnish?

oak bronze
sharp flume
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ok

oak bronze
sharp flume
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ok

oak bronze
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gonna go play some "padel" idk what's that in english but yeah

sharp flume
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okay

lyric olive
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yea its still on the same mod imma peace out of here

oak bronze