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strange basin
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Imagine saying there is a thread and forgetting to create one. Whoops

gentle mural
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there we go

strange basin
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Look, I can code but forget about Discord Permissions. (Forgets to allow sending messages in threads 😅 )

boreal tulip
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Interesting development! Very cool

Would it be possible to have a link to people's mod portal profile in the discord profile badge thing?

The follow on request from that would be for Wube: To show more info on the mod portal profile. Total downloads and a list of the mods that I'm a contributor to

Also, wow! That's a lot of downloads 🫢

strange basin
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We can't have buttons on your profile afaik but we will be looking into a right click app or a slash command for that as a second milestone

hexed wedge
sharp aurora
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What about those that had gotten the role when 100 was enough and haven't gotten 1000 yet?

strange basin
buoyant crystal
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cant paste an image of it (channel perms moment), but i see "sep. 25 2019 engineering since" in the widget. shouldnt it be the other way around?

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that is, "engineering since Sep. 25 2019"

crude sapphire
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this seems like a good feature

sly tide
buoyant crystal
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why discord, why

gentle mural
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can't it be changed to "is when they started engineering" or something that makes sense having the date first?

sly tide
buoyant crystal
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"since beginning engineering"?

gentle mural
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(cannot share pics in here)

perhaps see if its possible to "trick" discord with zero width spaces and other invisible unicode characters to have an engineering since with nothing in front, and then the date with nothing behind engithink

buoyant crystal
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right-to-left override character?

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would make copy pasting kinda weird

gentle mural
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its not like you can rightclick or even select that profile data rectangle

buoyant crystal
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oh, wait, cant select the text anyway

sly tide
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F12 would like a word 😉 (if you are in a browser, anyway)

buoyant crystal
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browser discord moment?

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doesnt seem to work on the desktop app

gentle mural
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you're always in a browser when you use discord shoob

buoyant crystal
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how efficient

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anyway, what about using the time passed since they made the account?

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like, "3 years of engineering"

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and have the years changeable to months or days if the account is young

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if you can do that, anyway

gentle mural
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is the bot capable of updating it after being linked? "x years and y months of engineering" might look nice, but that requires the bot to (if it can at all) update it quite a lot, might be able to use the discord <t: imestamp notation trickery, but not sure if hovering that is supported

buoyant crystal
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well, it has to be updateable, the mod download count and mod contribution count are number which are not static

sly tide
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It updates values every 24 hours.

gentle mural
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x days since crash landing hahayes

gilded sierra
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Would it be possible for Discord server owners use this to automatically tie a discord account to a Factorio user? Say you want to automatically grant a trusted role to Discord users based on their playtime on the community's Factorio server.

gentle mural
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if other bots are able to see the connections of users i think it should be possible

gilded sierra
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AFAIK user connections is not available to bots for privacy reasons.

north rock
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what do you guys think about <date> Account Birthday instead of Engineering Since

storm nimbus
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Could work. I would do Account Created instead of Account Birthday though

dusk sage
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I think engineering since is fine, but it needs to be a prefix rather than a suffix

north rock
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discord doesn't let you put the text first

dusk sage
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oof

north rock
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that's why we're considering changing it

dusk sage
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hmmm

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Whats the character limit?

north rock
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no idea, but we're trying to keep it short anyway

turbid stratus
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What counts as a mod contribution?
Is it every version uploaded, to a mod you own or are a contributor to? Does you have to have it personally uploaded or do all versions count? Is it in the last X months only or is it lifetime?

north rock
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I think it's your mods + mods you have collab access to, and the unique number of downloads total of all of them

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lifetime

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I'm personally not a fan of collab download numbers influencing your own

turbid stratus
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I am a fan because it gives me a big number and number go big = good chemicals

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But it must filter somehow. I only have 47 "contributions" but SE has had way more than 47 versions.
Does it filter by the versions I personally uploaded myself, or does it know when I became a contributor and only counts versions since that date?

north rock
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it's just the main number

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the one you see when you're in the mod search on the right side

turbid stratus
north rock
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I can't post images here lmao

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it's not fancy, just the mod's download number

native jungle
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I have notifications turned on for all messages in #announcements... So this is where all those pings are coming from!

north rock
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oh god threads count as pings lmao

native jungle
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It was just notification sounds lol

turbid stratus
north rock
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exactly

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that's why I'm not a fan

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I want to see how many downloads your mods have, not mods I have no idea how much work you've done on

turbid stratus
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Where is the 47 collaborations number coming from though? Even my 2023 recap page says "11 published mod updates, 63 updates published for collaborated mods"

north rock
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those are individual update counts

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it's adding the number of these you have with the number of mods you have

turbid stratus
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Oh it's literally just the number of mods, ok

north rock
turbid stratus
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Thanks 👍 I agree with you it is a bit odd

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I'm happy having the biggest number though, so don't go changing it trianglepupper

north rock
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bruh

storm nimbus
boreal tulip
north rock
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I agree, people are negatively influenced either way

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I guess it's just weighing how many collaborators there are that took over mods vs how many there are that simply collaborate

boreal tulip
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Is mine still showing btw? I can't see it anymore 🤔

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Idk if it just doesn't show your own one on mobile

native jungle
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It is showing

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mobile indeed doesn't show it, it only shows the linked roles

turbid stratus
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Only KiwiHawk's info doesn't show on mobile for some reason.
I can see mine and SpeckledFleebeedoo's and CodeGreen's

native jungle
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Hmm, indeed. Weird engithink

storm nimbus
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can you see mine? Maybe it's something to do with the fact that they are moderators

native jungle
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I can't, but I can see Wiwiweb's

buoyant crystal
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Can’t see erkigmo or kiwihawk, but can see wiwiweb and speckled

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I can see myself too

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On mobile, that is

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on desktop i see everyone fine

native jungle
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I blame Discord

storm nimbus
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I can see everyone; I'm on desktop. On laptop I can see everyone as well

gentle mural
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4th dimensional creature

hearty breach
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I'm feeling very humbled seeing some of the other peoples mod download counts right now

native jungle
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I'm fairly sure that Wiwiweb is a contender for most downloads lol. Maybe Earendel has more?

hearty breach
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Wiwi has 9k downloads per day since his account was created quality_legendary

north rock
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what's your guys' opinions on splitting mod downloads into two stats, your personal mod downloads and your collaboration downloads

hearty breach
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would it be that much of a difference?
Some would have higher collab or personal downloads

north rock
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yes

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currently you can't see the individual numbers at all

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I want to know how many downloads wiwiweb personally has

boreal tulip
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I'm well ahead of anyone else I've seen 🫣

north rock
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not how many he "leeched" off of earendel (no negative intent)

hearty breach
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oh right, I think I mis-understood what they were referring to. I thought they were how many mods you downloaded in normal play!

gentle mural
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personally i'd rather not be "confronted" by the scores at all, the entire reason is linking to prove ownership and for (reverse) lookup shoob

storm nimbus
storm nimbus
north rock
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I'm not sure what you're saying that would be an alternative to

storm nimbus
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Well have two stats like you suggested, but if you are the main/only dev for a mod which you didn't create, those downloads go to your "personal" mod downloads. Similarly, if someone else is the main/only dev of a mod you created, then that goes into your "collaborations" mod count.

strange basin
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The way I've looked at it is that the numbers are there for fun. After a certain point unless you're gaming the system it's pretty obvious you've contributed to Factorio Modding and 50k or 10M I don't think it really makes too much of a difference.

Kind of like how people leave their game running and claim thousands of hours. It's not a serious metric.

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You also have to ask if you want Factorio Developers committing sprint time to making a more accurate download counter on Discord or releasing the expansion

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If people don't like the numbers then we could change the Card to say something like "Has Contributed" or whatever it looks like for a boolean value. Normally it would be "No Value/No/Yes" but we can make it so that it only sends a value to discord if it is yes.
That's hypothetically one way to hide the numbers.

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Though my personal desire (not discounting others opinions of course, feedback is important) is not to take a social community that seriously. We've got to have fun sometime haha.

turbid stratus
buoyant crystal
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i have more numbers in my downloads, so i tihnk im the real winner here (43660 downloads is 5 numbers, 10M is two)

turbid stratus
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He didn't give me contributor for the Cogmas mod though, so if you download that a couple hundred thousand times you can kick me off my throne!

north rock
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hey wiwiweb I think it would be really funny if you gave me contributor access to earendel's + your mods

turbid stratus
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I'll give you contributor but just for Robot Attrition then we can say you came up with it

north rock
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THAT'S WORSE

buoyant crystal
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dew it

turbid stratus
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But it would increase your download count by several hundred thousands!
Deal with the devil 😈

north rock
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I don't care about the size of the number, I care about the accuracy tbh

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if I know I personally have positively impacted people in 60k instances that makes me happy

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the majority of my collaboration has been helping people learn how to mod themselves instead of contributing code directly, not that the latter is worse by any means, but that's how I like going about things

strange basin
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Do I get contribution numbers for every person who uses Linked Roles... That's like a modification of sorts.
Mod Creator is forever out of my reach hahahaha.

north rock
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just give yourself the total number of mod downloads

strange basin
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Even more so now as ironically I can assign myself the old role but I'm not actually allowed to assign this role to me.

strange basin
north rock
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of course

buoyant crystal
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including repeat downloads by the same users

north rock
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those aren't counted anymore

buoyant crystal
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i know, but it would be funny

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(how does factorio even keep track of that? keep a list for each user of which mods they downloaded?)

north rock
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you know what would be cool is being able to see how many people have linked their account

strange basin
north rock
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lol

buoyant crystal
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it is somewhat redundant :V

north rock
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only for the modders yeah

strange basin
native jungle
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If you're on discord you're expected to be a bit of a role collecting gremlin though trianglepupper

strange basin
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Not truly accurate since it's not unique (Someone can reauthenticate their account and we add another update, the old update only expires once the server attempts to process it) but that's how many account updates are queued.

buoyant crystal
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i thought i might need the factorio account role to use the mod maker one

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so i got the factorio account one then the mod creator one

strange basin
strange basin
gentle mural
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i wonder how many people that would effect, must have left the modding scene / not updated mods to modern versions of the game, that or just really niche mods that still got over 100 downloads but still never made it to 1000 even after all those years engithink

sharp aurora
strange basin
sharp aurora
strange basin
sharp aurora
fluid bloom
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Now i wana try and use the factorio api.

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Althòugh i have zero clue how this works with getting user drtails and what not

strange basin
tender valve
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Aww, I lose my mod creator tag, got 800 downloads from when that was enough to request the tag -_-

north rock
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you're only 150 out

gentle mural
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sinde collaborator downloads currently seem to count, couldn't someone with 1000 downloads on a mod simply not invite litterally everyone as a collaborator so they can leach of the stats and get the modder role? 👀

buoyant crystal
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hah, i was tihnking the same earlier

gentle mural
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napovointerco ChibiHappy

turbid stratus
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It's the other way around, you'd have to be invited as a collaborator

gentle mural
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yea that's what i meant, one benevolent modder could maka a script to invite every other username it comes across

turbid stratus
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Ah right

strange basin
gentle mural
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censorship shoob

strange basin
crimson karma
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like true factorio devs, you automate even the little things like moderators constantly giving roles to people
best devs ever, best game ever, and this will be the best update + dlc ever

dire carbon
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um, hello mods.

i am one of your humble factorio players. i was granted the amazing orange role some time ago, when the mod download limit was only 100. unfortunately, you decided to raise it to 1000. i retained the orange role, presumably due to my awesomeness, but this new development will strip me of my hard-earned title. i like to say i had a fairly good career, i think up to ~490 downloads (until, much like my prestigious title, the factorio devs deprecated my mod. i will never forgive them.) i don't think this is at all fair, and because of the inflation experienced only after my mod was forcefully deprecated, 100 downloads back then is more like 1000 today. as such, i believe i should be grandfathered into the orange role (or else i'm switching to dyson sphere program).

thanks,
concerned player

strange basin
# dire carbon um, hello mods. i am one of your humble factorio players. i was granted the ama...

Dear Concerned Player,

I feel your plight Concerned Player. Back in my day I created a mod for Factorio but the Factorio Mod Portal was but a twinkle in Wube's Backlog at the time and so my amazing contribution was never captured in the glorious records. I can assure that accounting for inflation from 2014 I would have easily been able to acquire what is ostensibly the best role in the server.

What make it even a greater insult is that even with the server crown 👑 even I am incapable of grandfathering myself into the prestigiously linked @Mod Creator role. Surely Discord did this to prevent those with evil intents but I assure that my intention are forever pure.

The moderation team has considered what to do about the unsung heros such as ourselves, alas the team is still of one mind that greatness comes in thousands and not hundreds. At least we can rest assured it isn't in the Hundred AND Thousands.

Warmest Regards,
She who Moderates

P.S: Sorry for the inconvenience and the old role hasn't been deleted yet so there is still a chance things might change, we are listening to the feedback here seriously.

storm nimbus
# strange basin Dear Concerned Player, I feel your plight Concerned Player. Back in my day I cr...

Dear She who Moderates,

I have an idea. Make a dedicated role for people who got the mod maker title when it was only 100 downloads. This way, they would still be able to keep their orange color. However, you would be able to see that they got it when it was only 100 downloads, because it isn't a linked role and (probably) the name would be different. Hope this helps!

With great respect,
Erkigmo

rain lance
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slightly change the hue

wet idol
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lets see... did it work 👀

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still not orange, but it works. 👍

storm nimbus
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you are not orange as you don't have 1,000 downloads yet

strange basin
# storm nimbus Dear She who Moderates, I have an idea. Make a dedicated role for people who go...

To be honest the only way I can conceive of doing that is if everyone <1000 downloads linked their account and I did a one time pass with the bot where any mod creator with <1000 downloads got added to a role.

My open question (to thosde who are concerned) is if you still don't qualify for 1,000 downloads after this many years what does the "Mod Creator" role mean to you other than collecting a role?

dire carbon
# strange basin To be honest the only way I can conceive of doing that is if everyone <1000 down...

re: betrayal, philosophy, and the meaning of orange

it came to me in a moment of stillness. i was pondering the tragedies of the human experience, when i realized that i wasn't entirely sure why i wanted the orange role, and the rest of my thinking was spent on this problem. was i merely grasping for status i didn't deserve any longer? was i simply trying to be part of a club i didn't belong to?

as the clock ticked, my mind wandered to the perception of myself. i looked in the mirror, and what i found was someone who placed too much value on the mere label of mod creator. sure, i have created a mod, but had i really made a change? (the answer is yes, my mod was really cool.) through thousands of mods on the mod portal, mine wasn't... special. it was a quick patch and, more impactfully, a valuable learning experience. but i didn't truly create something. i capitalized on an urge to feel productive, to feel more important than i was.

it is now clear to me that the color orange and the mod creator title are two entirely separate things. i wanted to be a mod creator because i wanted to be orange, to stand out, to show my dedication to a game i love, for that is what the mark of orange means. a mod creator creates not out of spite, lust, or for material wealth, but out of love for the game. the orange role merely displays this quality. and while i may not be a mod creator, deep down in my soul, i am orange.

does it matter that i will no longer be orange? maybe, or perhaps not. as i have pondered, i have realized that my attachment to the color orange wasn't because of my love to the game, and while i have realized that i embody the meaning of orange, i wasn't chasing it for my love of the game.

and yes, i would love to have a role that sets me apart. perhaps a classic orange one, or perhaps something special. but i don't need it, because i have realized that orange is a state of mind, not an achievement or a title

kindest regards,
enlightened factorio player

strange basin
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As she who moderates glanced at the magnificence of the response an otherworldly a voice spoke to her.

Those who understand the orange, become the <@&1197792695104589884>

And so it was said, so it shall be. 🪄

wet idol
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Role or not, I have a lot of fun creating mods for my favorite game AND YOU who not looked at my mods, you're missing great things. 🙂

dire carbon
crimson karma
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What an quality_legendary conversation! You are now filled with 🧡.

Orange is somehow connected with all my favorite things. I always value two games the most: FFFactorio and 🟠 BeamNG. One of my favorite youtubers is Capac Amaru who usually wears orange in games and is from the orange country of Australia.

gentle mural
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how many people are left in the old role? since its already being removed from those that linked engithink

strange basin
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If this pings someone... Angry

tulip wagonBOT
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📎 members.tsv

The following are the results of your search. You can open .tsv files with programs like Google Sheets.

These results have a delay of up to 2 minutes and may not reflect exact values at the time of review.
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Roles

<@&158905617875075073>

Total Members in these roles:

258

strange basin
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@gentle mural Just for fun... ^

rain lance
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oh no, V453000 will lose his colour!

strange basin
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And Rseding. Never fear though, they are awash in the colours of a greater cause... Developing the expansion Hehe

rain lance
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I had a shower thought this morning. Part of the expansion comes as mod. That should give them the role back once Space Age comes out.
All they need to do is not get fired until then.

north rock
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well, the base game is written as a mod

rain lance
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see, problem solved :)

boreal tulip
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The base game isn't on the mod portal (obviously). Will the official mods be there? 🤔

north rock
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they have reserved links

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but I doubt they will, due to the fact that they can be shipped with the game and also piracy

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though I guess if someone pirates the expansion executable they'll have the mods anyway

gentle mural
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goodbye OG mod creator role 👋

storm nimbus
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It has served us well, but unfortunately it's sacrifice was for the greater good. It will be missed. 🫡

tacit anchor
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I love the new concept for Gleba! Personally I think part of the reason the game gets "boring" after some time playing is the relatively uneventful and non-varied Map, especially in Mid-to-Lategame, where most vegetation dies off and all thats left is repeating tiles and dead trees. I dont know if this is the right channel for suggestions, but I think it would be cool to see a way to plant/restore some vegetation, and maybe add some larger, unavoidable Objects like gigantic Fungal-complexes, which you cannot destroy or move (but may supply some valuable resource, like a complex gas/biological material that cant be produced in Machines). I think this way one could build his base with a nice blend to the Planet/Environment and have some varied experience. So generally speaking, I would love to see more interaction between the Planets ecosystem and your factory. The player taking resources, whilst maybe giving something else back in an non destructive way. Also, another idea that just came to me, specifically for Gleba, is that if a Factory produces to much pollution, that biological ressources like gasses or liquids produced by the plants/lakes decrease, forcing the player to look for a more balanced approach in production vs pollution. This would also make efficiency modules more useful.

gentle mural
tacit anchor
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oh, my bad. ill just copy this over i guess

north rock
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