High Science Multiplier

[tepid axle]

Train Groups

Trains assigned to the same group will have the same schedule. Includes support for Train Control Signals.

Owner

raiguard

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[mossy saddle]

Thank you!

I'll add that when I'm home then

[vagrant anchor]

Np

[vagrant anchor]

@mossy saddle my wagon mall bp if you want

put inserter stack size * 2 as signal s in constant combinator

[vagrant anchor]

nvm smth was wrong with that

nvm i missed a bp there

[mossy saddle]

XD

Thank you froggy

Not home yet sorry

[vagrant anchor]

also dont use this yet

its a bit broken for the inputs

ill fix it tomorrow

its very easily fixable im just lazy rn lol

[mossy saddle]

Oki!

You've been working hard

You silly goose need some rest

[languid stump]

Ima try to start my purple science today

I think starting it will be easy since I have the prints and bots but getting to to full speed is gonna be hard because my god so many resources

But the earlier i can just get it started the earlier I get my beacons

[mossy saddle]

I'll rest today I'm dead

[elder rover]

128 to 128 lane balancer

Ups goes to 1 lol

Its at the end of the balancer book

[steep spindle]

[steep spindle]

If someone ever needs that high a balancer I think they did something wrong

[mossy saddle]

I need it!

[vagrant anchor]

sushi megabase

[modern citrus]

Even bigger balancers are discussed here. Old thread by the way. https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?t=31230&start=60

[mossy saddle]

Those balancers are mental!

[steep spindle]

I need my smelter

[languid stump]

Dooooo it GGS

I’m just gonna use prod1 furnaces for it

Nothing crazy

[steep spindle]

Then it's a mall time

I think the mall might help me with the ability to build the last 2 science packs and then figure out the damn space science

[languid stump]

mall circuits

maybe I should build more reds idk

gonna start making solar fields now

[steep spindle]

my fucking pc just booted to BIOS and the only change I did was a windows update

[steep spindle]

Don't get ran over lol

[languid stump]

I have no trains to run me over xd

solar begin!

steel (dead)

more iron for mall needed

[languid stump]

should be making 3,400 panels an hour. good enough, now I can start the bots building a purple sci design I think

[mossy saddle]

how does it work?

just put all resources possible in the trains so that it'll work flawlessly?

[languid stump]

solar overtaking engines!

gotta drive to my coal plants and circuit up the water pumps now to route power through the batteries

[quiet sandal]

I decided to fix the iron deficiency in my southern factory

I'll be making a full 1.8K SPM now

[languid stump]

I still need to fix my red / green deficiency for 1.8k

But I don’t know that I need it until I get beacons and stuff anyway

All dat afk time adding up

[steep spindle]

I broke my computer ✓

[mossy saddle]

fully???

[steep spindle]

Enough to have to fix it from a USB stick...

Thank God I have another one laying around lol

[languid stump]

Damn

What did you build in factorio xD

Your computer rejected it

[steep spindle]

I hit the power button....

[languid stump]

Aw

Hopefully it fixes

[steep spindle]

Just gotta bios flash it

Then reset the 5.4 OC

Wanting an x3D chip to OC for this game

Think of that megabase

[mossy saddle]

did it fully die?

[steep spindle]

Almost

Required a bios reflash

The mobo bios that was on it was the wrong one for the last 2 years. Just another reason to not trust PC companies

Took till today to die

[mossy saddle]

xD that's a long time

[steep spindle]

Yeah... I about raged at the PC company

Another reason to not buy a pre built

[mossy saddle]

time for a new pc!

[languid stump]

I’m researching electric furnaces :D.

I think I’ll be able to finish this x1000 in a few days

Surprisingly little tech left

[steep spindle]

It's only 2yrs old...

[languid stump]

Maybe I need to hold off playing my x1000 game in solidarity

Until you get a new pc

[steep spindle]

I'm going to just flash the bios when I get home lol

That will fix it

[languid stump]

Oh ok

[steep spindle]

It's not a brick

Appreciate it tho

[languid stump]

Alright I’ll go place my purple science blueprints then

[steep spindle]

[languid stump]

It won’t be able to do shit until I unlock electric furnaces but

I can at least lay some belts, make the refinery, start making an ore mine for each resource and 2 for iron (1 for steel)

It’s gonna be slow since I don’t have beacons and modules I need yet anyway

So prob one ore mine of each type fine to start it

Then I’ll just add more on whatever bottlenecks

[steep spindle]

Yeah, I thankfully am a hardware guru with computer parts, not a software guru

[languid stump]

Well I’m glad you’ll be able to sort it out :D.

[steep spindle]

[languid stump]

Hmm or maybe I should expand the red and green science setups

Probably should do that and first and get my 1.8k proper

[steep spindle]

After I hit beacons I'm doing a true 5k build

[languid stump]

Dayum

Yeah I’m gonna coast in at 1.8k

[steep spindle]

Shit is gonna be everywhere

[languid stump]

I’m already imagining myself cannibalizing everything to make yellow science lol

I guess at that point you’ll have all the inserter upgrades, blue belts, and t3 modules

[steep spindle]

Ye

[languid stump]

So kind of a normal megabase with bad mining prod

[steep spindle]

Test of wills w/o bots

[languid stump]

Is it just the companion bots?

[steep spindle]

Yeah

Maybe I'll add logistics bots

[languid stump]

I’m almost fully solar powered now

[long mauve]

Dang your now ahead of me, I just started solar last time

[languid stump]

AFK op

I think you have less game hours

[steep spindle]

Afk is what sadly got me 230hrs

And working on research from behind

[languid stump]

Yeah it happens a bit

But it’s ok :Dz

I just wanna finish it lol

I feel like that rocket launch is gonna be so satisfying

[steep spindle]

Agreed

I wonder how many silos I can realistically fill haha

Just blast them all full and rocket launch then all at once

I don't want that first rocket until I have the satellite tho

[languid stump]

I’m gonna put a car in and ‘fly’ away

And then quit xD

[steep spindle]

Lul

I want to see the tech costs of some of the infinite science

[languid stump]

only 60 MW boilers used in last hour

I think its safe to say im full solar now

however, still need massive amounts more power for the future growths

but at least i have the 1 GW boiler in the background to cover me

[steep spindle]

Wow

Also computer issue has been found

Totally wrong mobo and bios version was originally installed

[long mauve]

they are sooo slow

how many hours do you have now?

[languid stump]

66 xd

[long mauve]

20~ more than me

[steep spindle]

@languid stump did you see the problem?

#1188693488464834623 message

[long mauve]

you gotta turn off 1000x for these >.>

[steep spindle]

Nope

[long mauve]

fine ill just have a 1000 times the mining prod research :D

[steep spindle]

I'm gonna get there!

[languid stump]

yeah I ended up getting both the blue science bot techs

but with more bots its kinda fine

1 hour 15 minutes from electric furnae

[long mauve]

nice, I think im gonna get the first one atleast then purple/electric

[languid stump]

then only 175k from unlocking purple

but i have zero purp infrastructure built except power

[long mauve]

I should start designing, stealing beaconed prints and connect trains

[steep spindle]

[modern citrus]

900 SPM researching concrete. 89% done. Going to do red belts next (so I can at least try to get to 1800 SPM even if I don’t upgrade the smelting supply, I think I have enough iron on the bus atm)

[elder rover]

i switched back to windows 10 yesterday lol

the drivers for nvidia for linux arent great

[steep spindle]

My problem is a little worse than that

[elder rover]

so all games i was getting half the frame rate i normally get

[steep spindle]

#1188693488464834623 message

This was my problem

All my games were totally fine

The last windows update did a security check on mobos

[elder rover]

lol, my case and mobo is oem so....that gives it a 1% greater chance of being properly set up 😄

[steep spindle]

Oh

[vagrant anchor]

It tracks what is in a wagon with a memory cell and diffuses items from higher to lower

Don't put in manually it will break, since you can't read what is in a wagon with circuits

[steep spindle]

so here is a fun fact

Bios's are sad

[modern citrus]

Concrete finished, fluid handling finished (needed pumps for the water ugh) now researching red belts

[vagrant anchor]

you might want to double it first

and go for 3.6k when you get red belts

1.8k is still pretty horribly slow

[modern citrus]

You know, that brings up a question. What’s the record for speedrunning a 1k game? Lol

I’m not gunning for it, but still, just wondering

[vagrant anchor]

i would estimate it to be doable in less than 50h

with a preset seed and blueprints

and of course a very powerful cpu

@mossy saddle i fixed it (i think)

use at your own risk

nevermind i just realised something wrong

[mossy saddle]

XD

[steep spindle]

Happy I got the base back

Not happy I got booted backwards about 5-10 hours

[mossy saddle]

You had to fully reinstall everything?

[steep spindle]

If that happened I'd be restarted from scratch

[mossy saddle]

use cloud save!!!

thats how I did it

[mossy saddle]

oh boy...

[vagrant anchor]

What the actual hell is this

I think you might slightly regret having biters on nauvis a little later

Blue science is going to produce absurd amounts of pollution

[mossy saddle]

BUT I CAN MURDER

[vagrant anchor]

Are they still small biters?

[mossy saddle]

for now yes xD

but I'm killing 10k every 10m or os

so

if I don't die

the spitters are most annoying...

since I get stuck in creep

[vagrant anchor]

Can you check your /evolution

Ykw I'll turn on evolution and pollution and turn off peaceful mode

Gonna fight biters on other planets

I'll probably make an auto expanding artillery design and just clear out calidus system that way

[mossy saddle]

its on 0% atm

I don't mind fighting hordes of small biters so I hope they stay small..

[vagrant anchor]

How low did you turn it

Or did u turn pollution off

[mossy saddle]

my pollution doesn't evolve themm

[vagrant anchor]

You probably minimised the settings considering how many nests you have killed

Ohh

What about nest kills?

[mossy saddle]

I'm not that sadistic..

[vagrant anchor]

Imma go fight 100% evo biters for vita lol

[mossy saddle]

only 150 nests destroyed xD

[vagrant anchor]

Only 150 nests?

That seemed more than 150 on the map view lol

[mossy saddle]

thats how much I've killed xD

and that's a ini tiny slice out of the nests

[vagrant anchor]

What are you using to kill them?

Just grenades?

[mossy saddle]

I just lost all my bots noice

[vagrant anchor]

If grenades aren't enough later on you might want to try out spamming landmines in a car onto the nests

[mossy saddle]

granades aren't enough to get rid of them xD

[vagrant anchor]

Companion drones?

[mossy saddle]

yeah but I don't go overkill and spawn 60

I just use 10

[vagrant anchor]

Get like 100 of them and lag the hell out of your game while killing a lot of biters

You can try using those as distractions as well

Stuff them full of shields

[mossy saddle]

using them for killing

[vagrant anchor]

Honestly, might be easier to just make a lot of ammo and set up a perimeter

600% starting area is probably enough patches for 3.6k red/green/blue

And with blue you can task bots to place landmines on their nests

Its a very funny strat

You lose a lot of bots in the process but it works

[mossy saddle]

and 600% bigger nests and spawn rate max

[vagrant anchor]

Works especially well with K2 due to the construction roboport mode toggle

[vagrant anchor]

Yeah it'll be a pain to clear them out manually

Which is why you should get bots and abuse them to clear out the biters

[mossy saddle]

I'm fine

[vagrant anchor]

You won't even need a perimeter if you do it

Trust me it works

The mines will get autoreplaced

So you don't even need to set up a wall perimeter after expanding

Peak efficiency

Just place blueprints lose a thousand bots and your perimeter has expanded

[mossy saddle]

xD a thousand is alot!

[vagrant anchor]

Compared to science costs it's nothing

[mossy saddle]

All my oil is near those biters

Gonna be hard cracking it without dying

[steep spindle]

🤔

Don't know why the bot can't find it, but this looks

[quasi dove]

Search results for "https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Rocket-Silo-Construction"

Space Exploration Nuclear-Fuel-Delivery (by MrLumme)

Adds Nuclear Fuel to the list of things Space Exploration's Delivery Cannons can shoot.
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Soft evolution (by ZwerOxotnik)

Evolution depends on players, research with different accounting, teams, destroyed buildings, launched rockets. There are settings. Compatible with any PvP scenario. UPS friendly.

Anyone can translate the mod on Crowdin. https://crowdin.com/project/factorio-mods-localization
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[steep spindle]

https://mods.factorio.com/mod/Rocket-Silo-Construction

[mossy saddle]

thats not standard?

[steep spindle]

For it not to find it? No normally instant

[mossy saddle]

I mean if you want to build a silo is it just like the basic game and not 6 stages?

[steep spindle]

This one requires you to do extra before you can actually launch a rocket

[mossy saddle]

I'll use it

I need to suffer more

[steep spindle]

I'm looking at it for my next one

Slightly added twist

[mossy saddle]

will you do another x1000?

[steep spindle]

If this one finishes and I don't want to do the infinite tech

[mossy saddle]

infinite tech till lvl 30 xD

claim an early price from the factorio dev

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I don't even know if they'll do that haha

[languid stump]

Okay I’m gonna get my purple science started today

slowly

[mossy saddle]

I still got to fight biters.. xD

[steep spindle]

I'm working today, played RL last night instead

[languid stump]

lol what do you even have to fight them with?

[mossy saddle]

I have barely damage dealing granades

one smg with yellow basic ammo

and some drones that die within 10m

[languid stump]

Yikes

Maybe you ought to skip combat and get

[mossy saddle]

impossible

since my pollution floods the whole world easely

and I only have the sweet power of coal

made processed

[languid stump]

Can research solar panels and run only during the day

For a while

[mossy saddle]

that's not very efficient! xD

[languid stump]

Until steam batteries

It gives your pollution time to rest

And let’s you get

[mossy saddle]

I could just bite the bullet

and try to destroy most nests

or make like a wall of pollution absorbing buildings?

[languid stump]

I mean you’ll have to figure out what you think is best lol xD

Did you upgrade to assembly 2 and steel furnaces?

Those are a bit more pollution efficient too

But yeah I just don’t see offense or defense going very well without more tech

[mossy saddle]

yep when I start the whole thing it'll only be as2 and steel furnaces

[languid stump]

That’s good

Solar is also pretty early in the tech tree

I would definitely grab that

[mossy saddle]

took me 20m to clear 150 nests

[languid stump]

Yeah exactly lol

That’s not even a dent

[mossy saddle]

a full on bot army

to take over the world

[languid stump]

Yeah

I don’t know if I’d be doing much offense or defense until blue science

[mossy saddle]

is it possible to make them not hostile for some time

and then turning it back on?

[languid stump]

Probably but might defeat the purpose in my view

[steep spindle]

Not without yeeting achievements

[languid stump]

Don’t underestimate how much more production solar and eff modules can give ya

Especially the way they’re buffed in SE

Might be a slowish early game but I think you can just rotate around killing expansion nests and accept that your production limit is the limit of natural pollution absorption before it reaches the wall of 600% biters

A handful of automated defenses should be able to hold off any attacks from biter expansion moving into your safe cloud, until you kill them.

Frankly this is the only way I see it working out with the biter size / frequency you chose :D.

[mossy saddle]

it's modded there are no achievements sadly

[steep spindle]

There are the games achievements tho

[mossy saddle]

sek2 has those?

[mossy saddle]

I tried to have fun but the biters not letting me!

I'll just yolo for solar power then

chances that I'll be able to fix it all is slim to none I think tho

[steep spindle]

Now I'm kinda curious to see how massive the multiplier truly is at infinite tech

[mossy saddle]

xD you should go for it ggs!!!

[languid stump]

Still x1000 I think lol

[mossy saddle]

do biters still reduce UPS even if you kill them and leave their corpses

[languid stump]

A little but it’s very low impact if they’re not absorbing pollution

[vagrant anchor]

a single rotated belt halved my science for a few hours

im only slightly mad

[mossy saddle]

yeah I was busy with building and didn't see a meteor strike my green circuits had the same issue

[vagrant anchor]

rip

[steep spindle]

Yes, but how bad we talking lol

[vagrant anchor]

almost there though

so close

ill need to setup the actual stuff for the mall

[mossy saddle]

nice job

[vagrant anchor]

have just been messing around with mall design

[languid stump]

Nice!! Robots are great

Definitely good to improve mall flow when you get robots

Gonna start laying some solar fields froggy ?

Wow auto correct doesn’t like ur name

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[mossy saddle]

what did it change to? xd

[languid stump]

Groggy and fright

[vagrant anchor]

yeah but wont be too big since im using dupebox for the "real base"

will still power those with solar though

so will need quite a lot of solar

[languid stump]

Oh

[vagrant anchor]

gotta set up some red chips and stuff for mall first

[languid stump]

Fair enough, maybe you have a chance of finishing then

lol

[mossy saddle]

xD without UPS going downhill

[languid stump]

Dupebox should help with enormous size of processing needed

Vanilla it’s not that bad but like k2se idk

[mossy saddle]

have you already thought what space science you'll go for first?

[vagrant anchor]

prod definitely

[mossy saddle]

I can comfortable play

[vagrant anchor]

beacons

my plan is vulc-cyro-holmium-iridium-vita-beryllium

[languid stump]

Interesting

You might wanna get a little beryl earlier as the beryl rocket section doesn’t take astro science

And just generally like you might want a bit of everything to use t4 modules

[vagrant anchor]

depends on what planets i get tbh

[languid stump]

Well there’s always some easy beryl in belt1

[vagrant anchor]

if the patches arent great i rather just bruteforce the production

[languid stump]

Plenty for rocket sections at least

[vagrant anchor]

well yeah but its a bit annoying without space rails

definitely will want holmium first

[steep spindle]

🧐

[vagrant anchor]

ill get a bit of vita and iridium after getting beacons as well to get t4 modules probably

not too sure

[steep spindle]

It's like they all need lvl 30 anyway so NOPE

[mossy saddle]

there's certain paths you can take hehe

[mossy saddle]

you should do bobsangels x1000 next

[languid stump]

Err you don’t really need em at all

[vagrant anchor]

yeah i know but its just annoying

[languid stump]

I guess

[vagrant anchor]

ill do it if the rocket cost is too much

[languid stump]

Like you can for instance cannon everything you need for meteor point defense and cannon shells and cannon back in beryl ore for your rocket sections

And 1 ore patch would literally last forever if you only use it on sections

[vagrant anchor]

ill need a crap ton of sections though

[languid stump]

Yea, but, I’m pretty sure 1 cannon can supply everything that’s all

[vagrant anchor]

ill probably still end up going for it

yeah ill see

but i wont use cannons at all

want to just standardise

[languid stump]

I just chose cannons cause it’s slightly simpler for such a small outpost in space but yeah

You can do it various ways with rockets too

Just cause rocket fuel is slightly more annoying in space

[steep spindle]

Eh, I 🤔 seeing how bad the x30 levels of each is a tad more important

[vagrant anchor]

ill probably just ship rocket fuel for that early outpost

ill make it onsite from water once the outpost requires enough of it that its worth using dupebox

[mossy saddle]

hope you'll use editor not your world save xd

[steep spindle]

Huh?

[mossy saddle]

isn't inf tech already 1m?

[steep spindle]

Don't know tbh, haven't looked

[vagrant anchor]

nvm im making this mall monodirectional

making it bidirectional causes too much fluff and shitty throughput

[steep spindle]

There is no cheat sheet for this question

[mossy saddle]

well not many people are insane like us

[steep spindle]

I just want a math equation for the x30 of each at x1k multiplier

[mossy saddle]

iisn't there anyone who did it on normal?

not even that?

[steep spindle]

I don't know, maybe that's why the devs said something

[vagrant anchor]

dude now that i go find my bottlenecks i find so many stupid things that were limiting my science so much

there was a single underground belt that was turned the wrong way that cost me like 600spm lol

[steep spindle]

You before^

[vagrant anchor]

actually my reaction

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You after^

[vagrant anchor]

its so stupid

but well, sub 55 hour construction bot research

not that i can make them yet

3.6spm is actually pretty decent

[steep spindle]

No afk I think I can cut at least 50 hours out of mine

Why does everyone freak out when they see the x1k squad lol

[vagrant anchor]

i probably had like 20 hours of afk in mine here and there

and a lot of time could have been saved with predesigned stuff

if anyone were to ever speedrun this bots could probably be done sub 15h

but it would already be straining the cpu by that point

[steep spindle]

Mine isn't?, and it's at 3.6k outside

[mossy saddle]

they do? xD

[steep spindle]

Yeah, it's kinda funny

[mossy saddle]

they see us as crazy

prob

[steep spindle]

I already know when 2.0 launches and I go in UNMODDED to the x1k is gonna look that way

Why did that caps lock... Dumb phone

[mossy saddle]

xD it's gonne be rush for bots

since you won't have the bots

[steep spindle]

Yeah

And cause silo will be earlier it's gonna be even more hectic

[mossy saddle]

alot earlier?

[steep spindle]

[mossy saddle]

hmmm interesting

time to live in space

[steep spindle]

No rcu

https://www.factorio.com/blog/post/fff-381

@mossy saddle ^

Wait a damn minute

[mossy saddle]

oh it's gonna be cheap

[steep spindle]

1M

That's NOT cheap

That's the same amount of science nuclear is now

[mossy saddle]

xD thats fine!!!

it's basic factorio

so you basically got no issues at all with loads of techs or cpu drops

[steep spindle]

Seems legit...

[mossy saddle]

is that your status or did factorio do that xD

[steep spindle]

Both... Lmao

[wraith pagoda]

got first loading station up inserters balanced going for 3/8 trains

i was sitting in bed last night thinking , at 1000X producting 5k sci a min is the same as 5 in normal game

[steep spindle]

Yup

My base right now is 3.6 normal game

[languid stump]

purp science prints have been placed. well, the circuits and science at least

now I do the hard part of connecting lots of ore patches

im thinking I should not really use the central bot swarm much and get in my car and bring robots and ports and supplies with me.

and let it build mines and furnaces, then connect long belts kinda by hand again. its pretty fast, I dont need that many belts since im importing steel and stone brick

[steep spindle]

gratz

you are about 70hrs ahead

[languid stump]

robo grid growin

[steep spindle]

I need to get this stone brick smelter online

to gain steam on science again

[languid stump]

me too, I dont have many researches left that are critical!

[steep spindle]

yay!

I have the ability ot craft yellow if I want

[languid stump]

Nice!!

I found a bunch of copper spots when I was car scouting a min ago

So I’ll probably be using those for yellow when it comes

I’m just not finding much oil so I may be forced to use liquefaction to feed my yellow science

[steep spindle]

yikes

[languid stump]

Should be fine

You only need 1300 yellow after all

Well 1.3 million

But yeah

So I might cannibalize some existing circuits a bit

[steep spindle]

O.o you right

3,3M for space

[languid stump]

Yep, but I won’t be needing satellite

[steep spindle]

I'm curious about the infinite tech

or I wouldn't go that route either

[languid stump]

I don’t really understand the curiosity xD it’s just x1000 as much

But the 100% all the science desire makes sense

Much more complete version of x1000

[steep spindle]

the curiousity is because I have a goal of the x30 level infinite tech on the 2.0 world

the 2 belt mods work together, this one is fucking overpowered tho

90I/s for BLUES

BLUES

[steep spindle]

almost built 🙂

Time to turn on purple!

[steep spindle]

its on!

purple train!

[modern citrus]

Not sure if Prince would approve of that one …

[steep spindle]

approve of what?

[modern citrus]

Your rendition of Purple (T)Rain …

[steep spindle]

oh, thats the train painter mod

[modern citrus]

I only want to see you dancing in the Purple (T)Rain

Its ok. I’m filling in the time waiting for Logistics 2 to finish researching by Paving my World …

[long mauve]

thats awesome!!

you get purple yet?

[modern citrus]

Yay logistics 2 researched. Now to start cranking out red belts, splitters, undergrounds!

[long mauve]

awesome! those really speed the game up. do you have t2 assemblers yet

[modern citrus]

Yes

[long mauve]

nice!

[steep spindle]

Fireball we also got purple rolling!

[long mauve]

thats amazing! how much spm?

[languid stump]

Not yet!!! Sadly. My mall supply kinda died so I let it afk more xD gotta go check now. I think I gotta chill on the solar for a bit so I can build ore mines for the purple.

I kinda built the factory for it and the circuits , zero smelting or ore in yet

[languid stump]

That’s a big step, and the car right after it too

I found walking time was a big limiter early on

[modern citrus]

I cannot really disagree about walking speed. That’s why I went for concrete and fluid handling already. I’ve got about half of my factory covered with refined concrete

[languid stump]

Oh nice, concrete early is something I thought about but didn’t pull the trigger

I just did the stone brick paths into car

[modern citrus]

Game’s without biters, or pollution. Concrete is an easy runspeed fix for inside the factory. Outside, yea, might make a car for that expansion work

[languid stump]

Yep, nice too for an extra 80 slots of inventory capacity

So not only faster trips to mall and back but less of them

[long mauve]

dang your really speeding ahead of me, rn im just designing more smelting using advaned furnaces

[languid stump]

I feel like skipping trains is saving me tons of time tbh

[long mauve]

for now yeah

[languid stump]

The ore mines are so rich… haha

[long mauve]

goals are different tbh

[languid stump]

Yeah definitely

[long mauve]

I want to make a sustained base that can easily scale up to 10K spm

[languid stump]

Yeah and I’m doing spaghetti megabase rushes xD

[long mauve]

I designed a huge solar factory :P

yeah lol

[languid stump]

Mmm fancy

That’s huge tho dang

[long mauve]

im kinda happy and mad about the new FFF those would be great for my smelting bp

[languid stump]

Getting used to all the 2.0 stuff gonna be wild

And slow probably

[modern citrus]

I don’t really get the new FFF. It sounds fancy and all, but I think I’ll have to actually see it myself and play with it to see if I’m going to make use of it

[long mauve]

so fun, im gonna be on energy drinks and no sleep for a week when it releases

[languid stump]

Yeah same , my ability to comprehend this new stuff from just the fff is limited

[long mauve]

no offense but i think ive spent more time making blueprints than you. Itll be SO helpful in certain circumstances like this smelting bp I can just have it smelt whatever with a click of the button. and also for some complex recipes too it can be nice. Complex slow recipes

like iron and copper are exactly the same but diffferent colors, just swithc train stop names combinators and youre golden. easy with the new bps

[modern citrus]

I don’t even have a train stop BP saved anywhere; I just make the first one in that game on teh fly, and then copy/paste that making whatever adjustments are needed to it before actually connecting it to the rail system. I will have to play around with the new thing to see whether it will actually save me time. /shrug

[long mauve]

it might not save you time then but itll save people like me who have way to many blueprinmts time

I used to have varations of train stop blueprints based on cargo capacity. thats no longer needed I dont think

its helpful when building super big, which I think is a focus of the expansion

I would spend atleast a 100 dollars to get this feature right now ;p

ESPECIALLY for this 1000x run where I could make a universal print for all recipes.. :D

[steep spindle]

900. 1k due to lab consume

[long mauve]

nice nice

[vagrant anchor]

Oh wow the fff

This would speed up stuff so much

Peak "reuse old designs" efficiency

@mossy saddle Btw do you have finite oil/mineral water turned off in K2 settings?

If its on you might want to turn it off for later

[mossy saddle]

you can have it inf?

[vagrant anchor]

Yeah

You can just turn it off

[mossy saddle]

I don't think I have it

[vagrant anchor]

Do your oil wells show yield or how much oil they have left?

[mossy saddle]

yep

the %

[vagrant anchor]

Ur fine then

[mossy saddle]

what does it do inf

you can build ontop of them I thought

[vagrant anchor]

Usually K2 makes it just a number like ore patches

And you can fully drain it

Which is horrible for SE and also for these kind of challenges

[modern citrus]

400 labs in each lab setup. 30 sec tech. 450 SPM was using a little more than half the labs, so of course attempting to double the SPM runs into labs as the bottleneck

[vagrant anchor]

you can try researching lab speed

saves a lot of power too

[modern citrus]

Speaking of lab research speed … just got the first rank of it. I think that may be all I need - for now - for 30 sec or faster techs, as the speed increase is equivalent to an additional 20%, or 80, labs. At 900 SPM produced for this, given the 30 second time, it should be like having 480 labs (able to consume 960 SPM) so I should be good once the belt buffer gets consumed. Or is my math wrong?

[vagrant anchor]

you should be good

[quiet sandal]

Why the random red undergrounds

[steep spindle]

Those aren't actually random the bottom belts inserters don't pull backwards from a blue belt fast enough

[quiet sandal]

[steep spindle]

So instead of waiting for it to buffer, I did that

[quiet sandal]

I’ll have to use it to learn when it’s most useful

And I was trying to figure out how to pronounce it so I searched up the word

Kovarex misspelled it in the FFF

In some game photos it’s spelled correctly, in others it’s not

I think it should be the normal spelling instead of the past tense for the FFF title

[vagrant anchor]

this is such an abomination

and in alt mode the constantly switching filters are so annoying

[mossy saddle]

That's an eye sore XD

Atleast nice powerpoles!

[vagrant anchor]

Shit, I forgot that space scaffolding requires research

And the starting asteroid really isn't that big

Might have to go to belt 1 or something to set up space base

The initial one

[mossy saddle]

How much hour are you at rn

[vagrant anchor]

Like 55-60 or smth

Construction bots and 2 levels of bot speed have been research

Currently setting up stuff for mall and solar and bot production

I'm still debating whether to do the builder train or not

Since the building network would needs to be seperate from the main network without the 2.0 bot changes

I could probably use the vehicle roboport but the range in those kinda suck and it'll be annoying to get the roboports to not connect to each other

[long mauve]

could it be a regional think like color/colour

I think past tense makes sense in the title

[steep spindle]

I was trying to figure that out too, I think the spelling is a regional based word

[steep spindle]

Getting beacons today!

[long mauve]

nice, im struggling on making a purple science design

this is for a measly 450 spm

[steep spindle]

I have a 900 but it's a billion inputs

Today is power infrastructure

To get ready for beacons

And a new trains smelter

[long mauve]

did you plan for upgradability to beacons

[steep spindle]

not the best but tried to with space

rebuilding isn't an issue

[long mauve]

I dont want to rebuild after this point really, just upgrade existing lines to beacons

and since modules are still very cheap at T3 level ill use them everywhere

[quiet sandal]

Is a red belt enough for that many rails?

[long mauve]

red belt of what

[quiet sandal]

The output

[long mauve]

rail output? it needs 54 rails per second I have 2 red belts

[steep spindle]

now to figure out a design with beacons

[mossy saddle]

you can do it!

[steep spindle]

this looks odd. like I can do better I think

[languid stump]

Yes

[mossy saddle]

I believe in you ggs!

[steep spindle]

found all my !@#$ing modules...

trying something new here

[quiet sandal]

that's a lot of random stuff in that train

[steep spindle]

that train was also off in Narnia

forgotten about for about 85hrs

[quiet sandal]

why

[steep spindle]

that was a mall train

trucking away now

here we are...

[languid stump]

Nice

[steep spindle]

and

now I can't even use the blueprint file?

[upbeat sluice]

Blueprint String

Blue Belt Beacon Smelter

[steep spindle]

gotta make these power lines slightly cleaner tho

there we are

beaconed builds are so much smaller

time to go see if it will fit

PLENTY of space

waiting out the trains to unload all this ore/plates so there isn't a big ass mess

might be prudent to get steel next I think

[steep spindle]

there we are

[wraith pagoda]

mines starting to come together

steam !

[languid stump]

I used to make triple boiler stacks but now I don’t really get it anymore

Any specific reason you did it like that?

[languid stump]

Map looks nice tho, good trains

Slow bots making mass migrations are kinda funny

[wraith pagoda]

just more density, to belt

8 coal lanes from station feed 4 rows of each of them on the left

[modern citrus]

Now imagine how many boilers you could feed that way with nuclear fuel 😉

[wraith pagoda]

solid fuel you could put easily 2 per red belt probllay three

[languid stump]

Speed1 miners are sick

I have to do way less outposting than I thought I did to finish this

[steep spindle]

I'm over here screaming

[languid stump]

8 red belts of iron from one iron patch… mm

Breh

It’s almost 1:1 with prod3

And it deserves prod3 at the time scales you’re playing imo

[steep spindle]

I'm not making at the moment

and thats 900k

[languid stump]

Yeah but I mean, it’s also fairly close at prod2

[steep spindle]

hmmmm

[languid stump]

3:2.48

6:5 at prod2

Anyway I’m about to start my prod2 production, for sure

[steep spindle]

like this as in 1:1?

with the beacons

[mossy saddle]

yeah should be 1;1

[steep spindle]

so scrap the above build... got it

[languid stump]

Stack inserters prob wise for ups conservation

Considering;D.

[steep spindle]

thats not that bad

even at 1

main problem now is some of these have only 3 beacons

[steep spindle]

gotta go make dinner I'll hit that afterwards

[mossy saddle]

enjoy your dinner

[languid stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753031298368536577/1136307206048981073/2023-08-02_10-39-52.jpg?ex=65a7e68d&is=6595718d&hm=443ae7fe25668028c6f506100ac6f2d1fe01431483f334670c8ceec29733ac7d&

[steep spindle]

[steep spindle]

Do these 2 do the same thing?

[mossy saddle]

they both make green circuits xd

top is more compact tho

[languid stump]

Bottom is more ups efficient

[steep spindle]

^

[languid stump]

Can do more compact than the top too

[steep spindle]

That's what I'm after

Is ups and compact

[languid stump]

I’d go with the one I already showed

But here’s another more compact

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/334735604342325249/976851642643263518/blueprint.png

[steep spindle]

Hmmmm

[wraith pagoda]

i got one smaller hang on lols

[upbeat sluice]

Blueprint String

Blueprint 1

[wraith pagoda]

uses weved red blue to ge the copper wire over

[upbeat sluice]

Blueprint String

4x

[wraith pagoda]

1:1:1:1 ratio x4 for blue circuits tilable just adjust the middle pipes

if you want circuits with plate aswell i got this one

[upbeat sluice]

Blueprint String

Blueprint 1

[steep spindle]

currently looking for just but all of those look good

[wraith pagoda]

i cant find my print with the first one and smelting tother

[steep spindle]

gonna aago relax in RL for a bit

[quiet sandal]

in x1,000 seablock the final researches to win the game would be a total of 1.4 billion science

[mossy saddle]

noice

thats the spirit

[vagrant anchor]

seablock is already about megabasing for that FTL drive

on x1000 itll be x1000 the megabasing

[candid shadow]

Yeah 1000x science and SpaceX is redundant

[steep spindle]

Dear God...

[long mauve]

guess I have to pull an allnighter to beat you

[steep spindle]

[steep spindle]

how close are you?

[long mauve]

to what

im working on purple science, working on an iron shortage

lots of iron and steel smeltesr needed which probably should have a new design but im lazy

part of the issue is the deadlock

[vagrant anchor]

wtf happened there

[quiet sandal]

signalling issue

[long mauve]

1 wrong signal, that train in the mid-right moved to far because of a rail signal that shouldve been chain

[steep spindle]

rocket launch

[steep spindle]

ouch

[vagrant anchor]

big base here i come

[steep spindle]

60hrs for bots nice

[steep spindle]

Hoping this mod doesn't bite me in the ass

[tepid axle]

Rocket-Silo Construction

Building a Rocket Silo is now a 6 stages process. Each silo needs to be excavated, filled and built, while requiring a lot of power, materials and generating pollution.
Custom Space Exploration, Bob&Angels, Industrial Revolution and Exotic Industries compatibility
News: new graphics by snouz

Owner

MFerrari

Downloads

30914

[modern citrus]

Never used that mod. Can’t think it would harm a 1k run though; I mean, you are burning through so much to get each tech that making the silo that way can’t be a significant drain on your resources lol

[steep spindle]

Right

I wanted a little more depth to the silo

[mossy saddle]

I've installed it too

[steep spindle]

honestly looks a lot more fun tbh

[long mauve]

Awesome.

[steep spindle]

not yet, wondered how close you were

[mossy saddle]

Damn 100 miners XD

[steep spindle]

from 4 lanes of to 4 lanes of >.<

tiny...

[mossy saddle]

[steep spindle]

power poles? 😄

[mossy saddle]

yes sir!

looks nice tho the colors hehe

[steep spindle]

its being deleted soon

[mossy saddle]

to beacon design?

[steep spindle]

ye

that blue belt^

[mossy saddle]

I'm still very far away from beacons XD

[steep spindle]

base started having problems

[languid stump]

I’m getting close to beacons :D.

I just gotta smelt ore and connect belts

Wait no I need a new refinery too

[steep spindle]

uh oh

to hook my beacon build in I need a metric crap ton more power

theres no problem....

other than I need to turn the ENTIRE green circuit design around

[quiet sandal]

time to build many nuclear power plants!

[steep spindle]

yup my massive problem is

getting those 2 resolved and will get my base back in business

also looks like its finally time to crank up

[quiet sandal]

it's decently simple with modular train based designs though

need more? just plop down another one

don't worry about the ratios of how you need it, just as long as you're producing enough it's good

[long mauve]

I’m still really far

[steep spindle]

oof

[languid stump]

gotta love robots

6 red belts of iron ore to steel ready for the long haul into purp science

just need .. checks notes... 21 more red belts of iron ore to steel

[steep spindle]

haha

[languid stump]

the bot swarmeth.

another one!

[mossy saddle]

Huge ore

[steep spindle]

Putin you crazy

[languid stump]

these bots are whats crazy!!

top power consumer : roboports

[steep spindle]

xD

[mossy saddle]

How many?

I can feel your power going higher then the sky

[languid stump]

3000 construction bots flying

only 200 MW

really not that bad

I havent scaled as hard as you guys since ive been allowing afk time this game

[steep spindle]

I died again

[languid stump]

those trains are killers

[mossy saddle]

Lol I afkd too to get undergrounds and red belts

But rn I'm just building since it can take hours anyway

[steep spindle]

train death #2 today

[languid stump]

iron plates!

[mossy saddle]

Ggs! Watch out for trains xd

You really need spidertron

[languid stump]

copper!

bots are so OP haha

[steep spindle]

this copper train has it out for me

[mossy saddle]

Did it kill you twice already

[steep spindle]

yep

both today

[mossy saddle]

You should write a scoreboard of which resource train kills you

[steep spindle]

lmao

[languid stump]

Days since last accident: 0

[steep spindle]

[languid stump]

You can have it reset when a new pistol reaches the chest

[steep spindle]

proof

LOL

[languid stump]

GGS hiding his casualty stats

Classic

[steep spindle]

is there a way to see exact deaths?

[languid stump]

Yeah I think the kill stats

Or when you launch a rocket at least it shows you idk

Ok I gotta add like 2 more iron patches to steel, 1 more copper patch, all the stone (probably 2-3 patches, mine are small ish). And oil and a refinery

And then I have full speed purple???

I guess there’s a bit of belt connecting to do which may be annoying but yeah

Or well. Not full speed at all

[mossy saddle]

You'll be fine!

[languid stump]

I should just turn it on early because I don’t have the beacons yet.

Okay new plan, stone and refinery :D.

[steep spindle]

I changed the Milestone setting

instead of x5 its x2

time to turn on the power hungry

[vague fulcrum]

you can make it +1 if you want every single death

[mossy saddle]

4h for 90k purple science

[steep spindle]

lmao.... thank you

[steep spindle]

yo! thank you for your Milestones Mod!

[mossy saddle]

Oh you can change milestones too?

[mossy saddle]

Oooh perfect!

[languid stump]

oil and stone up! now i just need stone brick furnaces and pipe and belt connections and ill have purp science being made!

[languid stump]

woooo scalin

ok i think these new ore pics are not very noteworthy anymore

thats just how it goes after blue sci I suppose

[quiet sandal]

full plastic belts

[wraith pagoda]

the 12 lanes of red chips !

got 10k green going !

and 10k of red

[steep spindle]

dear God. Nice work!

[wraith pagoda]

i might need some more copper and plastic lols

[languid stump]

pretty :D.

[languid stump]

its a little terrifying that I only just now got this

[wraith pagoda]

haha

[steep spindle]

WoW

[languid stump]

im getting my new red chips started as well

feels so small now xD

[wraith pagoda]

nice modules

[languid stump]

yeah my purple is gonna be so slow to start but then beacons will happen I think

[quiet sandal]

oopsie

[languid stump]

more powa!!

[languid stump]

Lol uh oh

You didn’t turn off your research??

That’s wild haha

[quiet sandal]

there

[languid stump]

Much better :D.

[quiet sandal]

now it's producing the full 360MW

was mainly a coal throughput issue, but I do need to increase my power production further

one problem is travel distance for my trains

and I don't have them using stack inserters because I don't have red circuits automated yet

I think I'm gonna set up new power production over here

[mossy saddle]

Handcraft!

[long mauve]

so much progress. getting solar fields and more smelting built

[quiet sandal]

jesus

[long mauve]

I think im overbuilding smelting a bit tbh, I just need more t rains

[languid stump]

I love the feeling of expanding at the limit of your mall resources

So many ports but im too lazy to actually increase mall production

So I’m just waiting a bit

[languid stump]

Purp incoming :D.

[quiet sandal]

so when using prod modules for green circuits, should it just be all prod modules and a 1:1 build?

[languid stump]

Depends on the prod tier and goals really

I’m going with probably yes, though.

[quiet sandal]

for example

[languid stump]

So at prod1 the ratio goes from 3:2 to 3:2*1.08

[quiet sandal]

nah with this the green circuits get slowed down

hmmm

[languid stump]

3:2.16

[quiet sandal]

what if I used speed modules instead for the wires

[languid stump]

That makes it nearly 1:1.

Buuuut.

Ew speed modules? :p

6:5 would get you average 93% uptime

With the circuits working 86.4%

[steep spindle]

is RSC not liking Editor mode?

[long mauve]

just got to design the train stations to go with the design and im good :D

and then keep adding more and more beaconed stuff 📈

[steep spindle]

RSC has a Compatibility error with Factory Inspector

glad I saw that now

@mossy saddle holy shit

[mossy saddle]

oh thats alot!

you can do it

if you got to dig out 100 of those damn

[steep spindle]

this is just in editor mode

I wanted to see what it did

[quiet sandal]

how do I calculate ratios with modules?

[steep spindle]

first stage is 500 "crafts" of 100 stone out

[mossy saddle]

I know factory planner you can put modules in

[mossy saddle]

I still got to get blue I keep getting distracted by friends

[steep spindle]

omegalul

its 500 CRAFTS of that

[vagrant anchor]

Lmao same

I've just been afking last night for research and mall to fill up

One yellow belt of iron ore gives so little steel its so slow

[mossy saddle]

500x 25 stone?

[vagrant anchor]

Rocket silo construction mod makes the silo a lot harder yeah

[steep spindle]

500 of 100 stone out

so you get a shit ton of it

[mossy saddle]

loads of stone is good though

I need it for landfill

[steep spindle]

yeah

this adds a lot of depth

I like this mod

[mossy saddle]

what are the other tiers?

[steep spindle]

researching it

2/6 requires this x100

and that tier occasionally craps out stone

[vagrant anchor]

Ah yes following the SE way of everything spitting out stone as byproduct

[steep spindle]

considering this is the SE mod

just made for Vanilla 🙂

[vagrant anchor]

Well yeah I guess

The stone can just be smelted and put back though so no biggie

[steep spindle]

ye

thats What I'm thinking

I just want to see how feasable this was to put 4 next to each other

OMEGALUL

[mossy saddle]

ooh even ores??

[languid stump]

My roboport chest has still not backed up ☠️

[steep spindle]

actual game this is going to be NUTS

stage 3 looks to be 500 as well

So so far its

S1: 500 (take stone out)

S2: 100 (have to put items in) (stone byproduct)

S3: 500 (requires power, stone 100% (copper/iron/coal 15% per craft for 5 ore) take out of building

beacons also dont affect it

[mossy saddle]

awh

does it take long to min

e

[steep spindle]

doesn't look like it

just have to be able to pump the resources out of it quick enough

[mossy saddle]

ooh alright

[steep spindle]

I'd keep what it was outputting, but I just want to see it finish

I'll do 1 more site as a "test"

wooow

So so far its (ALL requires power)
S1: 500 (take stone out)
S2: 100 (Steel, Iron Sticks, Stone Bricks, Concrete, Water) (stone byproduct)
S3: 500 (stone 100% (copper/iron/coal 15% per craft for 5 ore) take out of building
S4: 100 (Steel, Iron Stick, Pipe, Pipe to ground, Stone Brick, Concrete)

lot of fucking Concrete

[mossy saddle]

I'll have to start a prod for it then

[steep spindle]

hooked that up to let it run haha

Stage 5.....

So so far its (ALL requires power)
S1: 500 (take stone out)
S2: 100 (Steel, Iron Sticks, Stone Bricks, Concrete, Water) (stone byproduct)
S3: 500 (stone 100% (copper ore/iron ore/coal 15% per craft for 5 ore) take out of building
S4: 100 (Steel, Iron Stick, Pipe, Pipe to ground, Stone Brick, Concrete)
S5: 100 (Copper Plate, Steel, Coper Wire, Red Wire, Green Wire, Stone Bricks)
S6: Electric Engine Unit, Refined Concrete, Radar

[mossy saddle]

Thanks ggs!

[steep spindle]

waiting to see what the 6th is