candid shadow Dec 25, 2023, 4:04 AM

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@willow orchid @steep spindle @steel karma

steel karma Dec 25, 2023, 4:04 AM

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bro i am not ready to take this on

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bro 1k science/min would still take 20 mins to research underground belts 😭

willow orchid Dec 25, 2023, 4:05 AM

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idk why I am in here as I am not playing this challenge myself

candid shadow Dec 25, 2023, 4:05 AM

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You're the one talking about it then complaining when people assume you're talking about vanilla in the general chat

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So here you go

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 4:05 AM

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Max, Thank you

candid shadow Dec 25, 2023, 4:05 AM

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Leave if you want

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:09 PM

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1000

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:10 PM

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scrolling to that link was a nightmare lol

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:10 PM

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I have stack inserters for my trains now, so all I need is to get some initial red circuit production built to automate them, and research cliff explosives

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:10 PM

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Is it ok to ask questions about 1000x science even if I don't play it myself?

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:10 PM

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yeah

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:11 PM

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Why not use nuclear?

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I mean, I saw screenshot in #vanilla-chat that you haven't researched it

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:12 PM

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I can't open this thread in split view because it takes me back to the top 😦

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:13 PM

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native radish Why not use nuclear?

It costs a lot, it can be worth it but it would take a long time to research

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:13 PM

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Is it because it would take ages to research it without using huge amount of power, and you'd want to use solar panels to provide that power instead?

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:13 PM

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cost of power is tech cost + cost per MW

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:13 PM

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And if you are being careful with UPS you might just want to go straight to solar

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:13 PM

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in vanilla this makes solar and nuclear equal cost at about 40 MW

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in x1000 it means equal cost might be 10 GW+

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:14 PM

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Oh, I see, that is what you were discussing

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:14 PM

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idk, havent mathed it for x1000, just estimating

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:15 PM

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I have no idea if or when I’ll run into UPS issues, but I won’t be surprised if I start losing UPS because I will have to build huge

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:15 PM

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yea

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I started right out with direct insertion designs

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:16 PM

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Ok, fair enough. But you'll need to research the tech anyway if you want other uranium-based things, yeah?

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:16 PM

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I’m planning for 3.6K blue science per minute, I’m currently making 1.8K red/green as well so I’ll have to double those

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:16 PM

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native radish Ok, fair enough. But you'll need to research the tech anyway if you want other u...

The other things you might want are even more expensive

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:16 PM

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native radish Ok, fair enough. But you'll need to research the tech anyway if you want other u...

Well only thing is nuclear fuel, atomic bombs aren’t needed

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:16 PM

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I think I would just launch a rocket and not get kovarex enrichment / nuclear fuel

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:16 PM

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Playing with biters at all is impossible, I tried

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Twice actually

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:17 PM

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Ok, I see. Nothing in uranium is essential for what you're doing

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:17 PM

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Yeah

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:17 PM

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this is nuclear power

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:17 PM

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there isnt that much stuff you need to get to the silo

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like once you have bots youre kinda close imo

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:18 PM

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Yeah

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:18 PM

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but idk, im not there yet

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:18 PM

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thats solar

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:18 PM

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Oh right accumulators aren't actually blue science lol

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:18 PM

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quiet sandal I’m planning for 3.6K blue science per minute, I’m currently making 1.8K red/gre...

I think my blue science build alone is gonna be twice the size of a 3.6K green science build

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:19 PM

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So are you all stuck on basic oil processing for the foreseeable future? That sounds painful

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:19 PM

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native radish Oh right accumulators aren't actually blue science lol

they may be in practice tho, since you will want so many that only with robots can you place them

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:19 PM

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Yep

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What is advanced oil processing?

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80k?

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:19 PM

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I just started green science so

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or almost

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1 hour ish until green science ig

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:20 PM

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advanced oil processing is 75 science in default, so 75,000 for 1000x

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:20 PM

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I need 250 refineries for the petroleum gas to make just enough plastic and sulfur for 3.6K blue science

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:20 PM

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basic oil processing is not really an issue with the oil patches we are giving ourselves

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:20 PM

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You need advanced oil processing for robots though

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:20 PM

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plenty of crude to waste

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:20 PM

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50,000% oil

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:21 PM

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50,000% so that even when depleted it never goes below 10,000%, yeah?

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:21 PM

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languid stump basic oil processing is not really an issue with the oil patches we are giving o...

Eh I’m not sure

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Nah 50,000% is the minimum amount I need

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:21 PM

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Oh

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10,000% on a single oil field gives the maximum oil per pumpjack cycle

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1000 oil per cycle

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do you mean 50,000% combined yield, or is the wiki wrong about how 10,000% is the max for a single oil field?

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:22 PM

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I didn’t make my patches obscenely big, so while I can always find more oil patches, I’m a bit worried that I’m going to have throughput issues with trains just not being fast enough

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:22 PM

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you can always refine it at the field and compress it a lot

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how much spm are you targetting?

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:23 PM

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#1188693488464834623 message

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:23 PM

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steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:23 PM

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native radish advanced oil processing is 75 science in default, so 75,000 for 1000x

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:24 PM

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yeah like I said 75,000

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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native radish do you mean 50,000% combined yield, or is the wiki wrong about how 10,000% is th...

Factoriolabs says that for 3.6K blue science per minute I need to have 50,000% oil to feed the refineries

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Ok, so that is combined yield

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Yeah

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Figured as much

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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quiet sandal Factoriolabs says that for 3.6K blue science per minute I need to have 50,000% o...

i did 2 separate ones, but to get AA did this

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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So I’ll need to get a higher amount to have a buffer

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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what is AA

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Advanced oil..... sorry lol

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:25 PM

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331 drills was not enough

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I really need a car

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the stone brick paths only do so much

native radish Dec 25, 2023, 5:26 PM

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Oh god, not being able to research car without worrying about the tech costs

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Sounds horrible

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 5:27 PM

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Better have fun walking

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:27 PM

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languid stump I really need a car

car is nice

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and Companion Drones can read the Car/Train inventory

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lol

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 5:28 PM

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ah noice

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I have decided to try this without any early robot mods

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:29 PM

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my next run I think I'll do the same

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I turned on the second smelter

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and my power died

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this is why I need nuclear or just way more solar

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solar panels took 25s to kick back on after the battery died

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this might be why my power rose.....

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all 1,680 labs are just cooking

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this arguement to get still valid?

candid shadow Dec 25, 2023, 5:49 PM

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steep spindle scrolling to that link was a nightmare lol

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There’s a similar button on desktop

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 5:50 PM

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O.o appreciate you

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now the split view works

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it was 100% my labs causing popwer strain

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 6:06 PM

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I’m going to research nuclear when I can

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With my power demand it’ll be the easiest thing to use

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I have no idea what I’m gonna do with all the U-238 though

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Won’t have kovarex for a long time after

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 6:27 PM

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450 spm of green sci operational hahayes

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languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 6:58 PM

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I think I need to add another 900 if I’m ever gonna finish this

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Robots looking very distant at 450 spm

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 8:35 PM

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Yeah

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That research bar didn't really start moving until I hit 1k minimum/m

stark wigeon Dec 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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What do you x1000 people do about resource patches?

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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custom ore settings

stark wigeon Dec 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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do they just die and you find many many new ones?

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 8:36 PM

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All 600%

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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I did 17% frequency still

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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I'm gonna not do a higher frequency on the next one

stark wigeon Dec 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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next one

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he says

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 8:37 PM

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Yeah

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 8:39 PM

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ive decided to change away from the direct insertion thing I was doing

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I think that might have been silly without a starter bot mod

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so im gonna do a different style for more green sci thats faster to handbuild

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 9:10 PM

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steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 9:10 PM

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doing better than me at the start

quiet sandal Dec 25, 2023, 9:51 PM

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stark wigeon What do you x1000 people do about resource patches?

Custom ore settings, however I don’t have everything cranked

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Mine is mostly just railworld with default frequency

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I accidentally left oil frequency at 33% though

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I should’ve raised that

steep spindle Dec 25, 2023, 10:01 PM

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yeah

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that might hurt finding htat

languid stump Dec 25, 2023, 10:41 PM

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900 spm, can prob upgrade it to 1800 later

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 12:16 AM

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coal power plant #2

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languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 12:41 AM

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steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 12:42 AM

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languid stump

gratz!

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faster than me

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 12:47 AM

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Dang you had a long time between the green and blue

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 12:51 AM

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now there is ore problems so I dont want to even touch production_science till I fix it

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 12:54 AM

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Seems like a good plan

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 12:55 AM

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steep spindle faster than me

Oh damn

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You spent a LOT of time between green and blue science

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Here I am at 40 hours already trying to get blue science running

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 12:56 AM

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I couldn't get my ore to stabilize

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so I just trucked on through it

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right nowI I'm trying to just stabilize my first 3 packs

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I think This ore patch will do it

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trying to see if I can get a dual loader

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 12:58 AM

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I hate building over ore patches but at the same time I need huge areas of space

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And I also need lots of material

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 12:59 AM

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I put my frequency pretty low, so I kinda need the car to go find more ore patches and move between areas now

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 12:59 AM

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So I don’t really know if I should keep going with my current save or succumb and just use ores everywhere

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I have already put in a lot of time though so it would likely be best to continue

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Unless I’ve really messed myself up with my oil settings…

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Idk, I guess the best thing to do for now would just be to build up a train network and extracting for every single patch, just to maximize my resources

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:02 AM

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I was looking at blue science and you can do 1800 spm on ~1500% yield

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:02 AM

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I have a 1700

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when it has engines

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:02 AM

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And then, realistically, it’s not that much waiting until coal liquefaction

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:02 AM

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languid stump I was looking at blue science and you can do 1800 spm on ~1500% yield

How though?

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:02 AM

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problem again is iron 😦

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:03 AM

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Factoriolabs says that I need 50,000% for 3.6K

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:03 AM

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Are you using prod modules

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:03 AM

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Don’t have them just yet

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But is it possible to lower it that much?

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:04 AM

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https://kirkmcdonald.github.io/calc.html#data=1-1-19&min=2&furnace=steel-furnace&p=basic&belt=fast-transport-belt&dm=pe&items=chemical-science-pack:r:1800&modules=pipe:null:null

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With prod modules I’m looking at 2 pipes oil, 2 belts coal, 6 belts copper, 10 belts iron for 1.8k spm blue

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And I’m hoping that can unlock me robots

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:10 AM

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Huh

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With prod 1s on everything that produces/consumes oil I can only get it down to 18,000%

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For 1,800 science per minute

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:11 AM

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time to find out if my power grid dies....

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:11 AM

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steep spindle time to find out if my power grid dies....

“The power grid would, in fact, die”

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:11 AM

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quiet sandal With prod 1s on everything that produces/consumes oil I can only get it down to ...

And some speeds on the pumpjacks ? 🙂

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:11 AM

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I put prods on those as well

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:12 AM

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damn

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waterfalling a input belt lol

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:12 AM

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Oh wow, speeds gets it down to 12,000%

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:12 AM

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Then add mining prod1…

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:12 AM

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Well, 12,700

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:12 AM

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(Optional)

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:13 AM

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Mining prod1 didn’t show any difference

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engithink

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Ok now it’s down to 11,600%

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:14 AM

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because this is a 5.x input I'm half temped to do a dual loader

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:14 AM

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But still that’s for 1.8K science per minute

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So I’d have to double it to 23,200% for 3.6K

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And all those modules would cost a lot of red circuits

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I hadn’t included mining productivity before because I haven’t researched it yet

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I guess I should though

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:17 AM

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so thi is the malding moment

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its either COMPLETELY empty, or totally full

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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3.6K blue science with the modules would consume 1.1GW

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deadinside

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:18 AM

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quiet sandal 3.6K blue science with the modules would consume 1.1GW

that makes sense

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:19 AM

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Around 800MW without

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I will need to find a very large lake that I can landfill into strips of water and use trains to bring over a lot of coal

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This challenge is hard enough, it would be impossible if I didn’t have factoriolabs to calculate my resource and production requirements

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I can only do so much math myself

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 1:32 AM

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I got ran over 😢

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 1:36 AM

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RIP

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 2:12 AM

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gonna go chill in rocket league

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dying at chemical_science is tilt

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 6:02 AM

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I have to fix my engine setup and I'll be good to go for chem now

stark wigeon Dec 26, 2023, 1:52 PM

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Tell me you guys at least use nanobots or something, building things like this seems incredibly tedious

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 1:56 PM

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I think everyone else is using something like that yea

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Im seeing if it can be done with no early robot mod

stark wigeon Dec 26, 2023, 1:58 PM

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I mean it can be, there's no doubt about it

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But your poor joints

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Your fingers are are probably more sore than my grandma's.. and she had polio

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trianglepupper

languid stump Dec 26, 2023, 2:00 PM

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Meh it ain’t that bad

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Just gotta use speedrun style prints that are easy to build by hand

stark wigeon Dec 26, 2023, 2:00 PM

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Oh i had a picture for that but someone removed it

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Meme haters catcry

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It was the drake no/yes thing with inserters all placed on the south sides of furnaces vs grouped north/south to make them easier to build

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Tbh you should be doing that anyways for possible belt weaving shanigans

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 3:04 PM

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It was removed because of rule 2

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 7:15 PM

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looks like its time for a different design idea

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after work*

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 9:34 PM

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I think a setting like this has potential

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75%(u 17%) - 600% - 150%

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with cliffs at 25% for both

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gives a lot of resources, but also enough room that patches aren't covering the whole map

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 9:51 PM

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Next to no uranium?

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I am thinking of a rail world style setting for the next one to try and truly avoid dropping buildings on ore

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 9:53 PM

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quiet sandal I think a setting like this has potential

Only difference I'd do is crank richness to 600%

mossy saddle Dec 26, 2023, 9:54 PM

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richness is definitly very valuable else you run out way to fast sadly

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 9:55 PM

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steep spindle Next to no uranium?

I honestly don't know how much uranium would be needed

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 9:55 PM

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Depending on how much nuclear/fuel is used I guess

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You are right in that point tho

mossy saddle Dec 26, 2023, 9:56 PM

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I get roughly 200MW of power by just having 1.8k spm (base not running at max though)

quiet sandal Dec 26, 2023, 9:56 PM

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you need to use oil to mine uranium, the patches even in base game are normally a few million

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how fast would you go through patches if you didn't have kovarex?

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 9:57 PM

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Prolly not very if no kovarex is considered

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Depending on the setup

mossy saddle Dec 26, 2023, 9:57 PM

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very fast you get like 1 U235 every 50-75 U238 I think and you got to store that U238 somewhere then

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 9:58 PM

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I'm going to switch to nano bots in my next world

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To at least have to craft them to get them

mossy saddle Dec 26, 2023, 9:59 PM

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tell me how it goes, since with the updated drones I have they seem to bug alot when building very condensed builds

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 9:59 PM

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Mine don't bug out, but that might be because I yeeted like 2-3 lines of code

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They will bug out if you try to place stuff in the blueprint to help them

mossy saddle Dec 26, 2023, 10:01 PM

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hmm I'll have to see, I did ctrl x and they just got stuck building so I had to help them a little

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 10:02 PM

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Gotta head back to work be back later

mossy saddle Dec 26, 2023, 10:03 PM

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take care!

steep spindle Dec 26, 2023, 10:03 PM

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mossy saddle hmm I'll have to see, I did ctrl x and they just got stuck building so I had to ...

Yeah you have to let them delete it, then replace

steep spindle Dec 27, 2023, 7:03 PM

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I know I posted this in the general chat, but better to post here for progress reasons. The still smelter will hopefully go up tonight!

marble stream Dec 27, 2023, 7:04 PM

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steep spindle I know I posted this in the general chat, but better to post here for progress r...

Plz entity time usage and production screen

steep spindle Dec 27, 2023, 7:05 PM

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marble stream Plz entity time usage and production screen

After work I can 🙂

mossy saddle Dec 27, 2023, 8:48 PM

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very small base

steep spindle Dec 27, 2023, 9:25 PM

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Wow

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No trains?

mossy saddle Dec 27, 2023, 9:26 PM

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Not yet!

quiet sandal Dec 28, 2023, 12:34 AM

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K2SE x1000

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someone should arrest you

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you are clearly not mentally stable

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 12:46 AM

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marble stream Plz entity time usage and production screen

what menu do I need to hit

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 3:53 AM

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F4 to open the debut menu then search for time usage. for production screen press p and then adjust the time scale

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@steep spindle

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 3:54 AM

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I'll have to check that on lunch, falling asleep. Thank you @long mauve

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Did you see the steel smelter?

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 3:55 AM

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Not completed I don’t think

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 3:55 AM

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Check it out in the other channel

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It's done

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Gonna fire it on tomorrow at lunch then turn that on

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 3:56 AM

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That’s really cool

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I like how it has rails surrounded but they are useful

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 3:56 AM

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Didn't think I'd like the ore to steel idea, but it's growing on me

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 3:57 AM

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I don’t like it still

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If you do them seperate you can reuse the iron plates

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 3:57 AM

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I think I'll condense it once I get beacons

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 3:57 AM

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Though with such a set base where you know exactly what you need it isn’t bad

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 3:58 AM

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Because steel is required a shit ton for production_science

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Having to make a new smelter for it it going to suck

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 3:59 AM

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Yeah

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I haven’t shared it yet but earlier I made this pretty cool adjustable mall train

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It’s a neat concept I haven’t seen before

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You just have some extra buffer in chests that gets recycled into the train

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 4:01 AM

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Yeah

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Going to get rid of the ore to plate step when I get beacons 💯% now

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Because I'll have a beefed up smelter

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 4:02 AM

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long mauve It’s a neat concept I haven’t seen before

This seems interesting

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Gotta head to bed tho

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 4:03 AM

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I’ll share an image later, cya later

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 4:04 AM

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steep spindle Going to get rid of the ore to plate step when I get beacons 💯% now

I might recommend against it just because of the ups impact of double the inserters. I don’t know how much of an issue they is for you

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 4:05 AM

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Right now not a problem but probably in the future

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 4:12 AM

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quiet sandal you are clearly not mentally stable

😦

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 4:03 PM

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long mauve I might recommend against it just because of the ups impact of double the insert...

I think even tho I spent 3 hours building that step last night I need to condense it down now

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Concerned lol

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 4:06 PM

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Oof how compact do you need it to be?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 4:35 PM

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Ummm, not very

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Just producing a metric shit ton

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Minimum 4k

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3.6k production_science needs 27k/m steel

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That's 31k right there minimum

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 5:02 PM

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AAAAAHHHHH

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 5:04 PM

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have fun lol

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 5:12 PM

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Don't know if I should just build a 5k and a small production_science

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Then blast it

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 5:16 PM

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copy and paste could be your best friend

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 5:39 PM

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True

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It was on the engine build lol

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 5:41 PM

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steep spindle It was on the engine build lol

Do you do direct insertion?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 5:41 PM

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With chemical_science ? No

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 5:44 PM

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steep spindle With <:chemical_science:920405684187713567> ? No

Why

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 5:44 PM

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Made all off site and trained in

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 5:44 PM

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I always direct advanced_circuit to chemical_science lol

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Okay not always

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 5:49 PM

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But we need more trains!

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:00 PM

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I kinda want to direct insert but I kinda don’t, might be nice to turn off blue science a little and make modules for a bit while green science comes in

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Dunno, I’ll probably settle on whatever I think is easiest to hand build to start

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I’m 1 hour from car now

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I did some afk, hour 17 game time now

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:02 PM

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Are you also doing x1000?

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:02 PM

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The walking time was killer

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Mhm

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Not k2se

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Just vanilla

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:03 PM

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I love walking 5m to just get belts from my mall xd

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So you're at blue rn?

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:04 PM

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Green science

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But I’ve been building some ore mines for my coming blue

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I have like 1.2k spm red / green

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:10 PM

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long mauve F4 to open the debut menu then search for time usage. for production screen pres...

@marble stream gonna hit this now

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which ones did you want

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that can't be moved can it

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:15 PM

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Do you have everything turned on? XD

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:15 PM

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mm red belts

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:16 PM

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I am going to be so happy when I reach reds

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You can't even imagine!

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Do you have trains already?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:17 PM

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none of my base is on right now

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:18 PM

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no trains yet!

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im going for robots with no trains

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I think

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are you automating green science?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:20 PM

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me? yeah

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all of my base is like turned off

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yet somehow turned on

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:20 PM

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papaat sry

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since they said theyre excited to get to red belts

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:21 PM

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oh

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:21 PM

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steep spindle all of my base is like turned off

whatcha need to do to turn it on?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:21 PM

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wish I could move this screen

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make more blue science

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looks like I need to def make more steel

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:24 PM

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oh yea

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im not looking forward to the whole blue belt of steel ima need

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for blue science

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or red belt maybe? idk

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:29 PM

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does the left route require full belts first?

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just trying to full to the first

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^*right

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:36 PM

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languid stump are you automating green science?

Yep I've already automated green one slight problem now is that my PC decide to have a mental breakdown and don't wanna work

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:37 PM

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steep spindle does the left route require full belts first?

Is this where you'll hook up steel too?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:37 PM

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tahts this contraption

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my base just sorta stopped because steel stopped

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Iron plates went down in need because the steel went to ore

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thats a problem

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:40 PM

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That's alot of engines damn

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You'll run out of iron again!!

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How much SPM are you planning

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:41 PM

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3600

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till I hit beacons

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just wanted this setup till I can get a production_science

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:41 PM

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Are you mining enough? 👀

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:41 PM

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for 75k

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doesn't look like it

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:42 PM

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Time to make even more mining outposts! 😆

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:43 PM

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the iron makes 43k/m

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which is plenty to supply the steel if rebuilt

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MOTHER F

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 6:44 PM

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rip

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:45 PM

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damn cargo wagon

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:47 PM

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This isn't the first time! xD

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 6:51 PM

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shouldnt be too much longer that this base explodes

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 6:53 PM

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Still got max ups you're not doing it good enough! 😛

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 7:00 PM

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steep spindle wish I could move this screen

I did want to see your tick and entity times (theres disable mod guis debug option)

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To know how inperformant your base is

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:01 PM

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mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 7:01 PM

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Not sure what those numbers mean o-o

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:02 PM

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I need to go back to work

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my base isn't fully powered on right now

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are any of thsoe bad^?

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 7:02 PM

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mossy saddle Not sure what those numbers mean o-o

That that huge base is ten percent of the PC can handle
@steep spindle u need to build ten times as much lol

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:03 PM

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also using a 5.4 oced 5900x

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 7:03 PM

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Ur base is too small lol

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:04 PM

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Yeah 🤣

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:05 PM

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It’s almost like purple and yellow and space science are most the production of the megabase

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Luckily we kinda don’t need that much

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Not thaaaat many techs needed from yellow / purple

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:08 PM

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Just crank the base to 10k spm

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Problem solved 😁

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 7:11 PM

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We're going for 50k ggs not those simple numbers!

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:13 PM

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Blast it to 100k?

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AAAAAHHHHH hype

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And the challenge is 0 ups drop

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:14 PM

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I’m just trying to see how little I can hand build and still get bots in decent time

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Then I’ll see about some scaling I think

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:15 PM

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Yeah, my problem right now is just getting steel online

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Then my base will come alive

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Steel seems like an easy problem to have when you possess electric furnaces

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I guess you’ve been playing with trains and stuff

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:16 PM

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Yeah, just finding the right build

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Right now if that thing kicks on to full power it's 4400/m

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:16 PM

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I’m gonna be finding an iron ore patch here soon to convert entirely to steel

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Maybe a few

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:17 PM

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So I may just need to get a whole nother ore patch and funnel it

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:17 PM

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Yeah, I think doing on site smelt for steel is quite nice

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10x density in trains compared to ore insertereyespy

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:18 PM

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Getting 16k steel in a train

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Is a pain in the ass lol

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:18 PM

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engithink

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I guess so

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:18 PM

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But when I figure out how to full power it

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That's gonna be fun to watch

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Hopefully your grid doesn’t die again

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I need to improve mine too, I only have 300-400 MW

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:20 PM

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I took care of that

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Added 2 GW worth of solar power

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:20 PM

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Oh nice

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Yeah im gonna go solar right after I get robots I think

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But I need like a GW of burner I think

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Roughly

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:21 PM

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GW of burner for me was rough

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:21 PM

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Yeah it’s gonna be quite a few coal fields

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I just automated boilers though, so I’m gonna drive around in my car and add 360 MW at a time

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Do that 2 or 3 times and should be good for my blue science setup

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:22 PM

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I had a 215mw build I plopped down 5 times

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:22 PM

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I’m just using a boring old 1:20:40 and copy pasting it so many times

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:23 PM

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Ate 2 red belts of coal per

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:23 PM

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I might do 1:40:80 now that I have red belt

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Yeah, I think so

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:25 PM

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Bbl

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 7:36 PM

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18 hour car

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what if I told you

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this is not my slowest game of vanilla factorio lol

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biters harder than science multiplier confirmed?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:39 PM

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Probably lol

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 7:48 PM

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steep spindle Probably lol

Hmm, does x1000 with biters even make sense?

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Maybe with disabled evo and free turret research otherwise whoop

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:50 PM

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marble stream Hmm, does x1000 with biters even make sense?

Unknown

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 7:50 PM

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steep spindle Unknown

I'll try

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after I make a working Dupebox (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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I've got to the problem that linked-pipe is implemented in 1.2
And you know when 1.2 is released?
Yep

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 7:52 PM

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Huh

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I might do biters when 2.0 launches

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 7:57 PM

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With biters you need defences proportional to your pollution
I'm not sure if evolution even makes sense there even if it's 1000 times lower

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I'll maybe do some math on ammo per pollution ratio, it shouldn't go above 0.5 ever

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 8:07 PM

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I've thought about putting biters on the lowest possible settings that still gain achievements and trying it

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Buts that's also why I said I'd do it during 2.0

polar pewter Dec 28, 2023, 8:11 PM

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With the massive scale, I bet turrets will look dead cheap compared to all the research....

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The turrets' initial research, though...

polar pewter Dec 28, 2023, 8:15 PM

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marble stream Hmm, does x1000 with biters even make sense?

With enough shotgun ammo and a whole lot of patience, I don't think it's that impossible.

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It'll be super tedious, though.....

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 8:23 PM

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polar pewter With enough shotgun ammo and a whole lot of patience, I don't think it's that im...

I mean with a free gun research, of cource

polar pewter Dec 28, 2023, 8:24 PM

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marble stream I mean with a free gun research, of cource

Right I forgot Military is required to unlock the shotgun

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nevermind then

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It's pistoling time

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 8:25 PM

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polar pewter Right I forgot Military is required to unlock the shotgun

I mean with a free gun_turret research
It would be pointless to make player unable to defent at scale

polar pewter Dec 28, 2023, 8:26 PM

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marble stream I mean with a free <:gun_turret:716018541488373871> research It would be pointle...

I mean, x1000 is never intended in the first place and nothing makes "the player unable to defend at scale" other than the player's options themselves.

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I don't think that's something to correct here, sir.

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 8:27 PM

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polar pewter I mean, x1000 is never intended in the first place and nothing makes "the player...

It was intended in some way, because there's a limit on x and it's 1000, and automation is free

polar pewter Dec 28, 2023, 8:28 PM

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Really? That's how you interpret that?

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It's hard to believe that 1000 wasn't arbitrary. It's like saying "PvP is intended because it exists"

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 8:30 PM

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I'm gonna try it with 2.0

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 8:30 PM

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marble stream Hmm, does x1000 with biters even make sense?

you can do 600% starting size, low evolution factors, and increase terrain pollution absorption

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can def make it work I think

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even lower the attackers per pollution so some lightly upgraded red ammo can kill scary bugs

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anyway, new coal mine in the boonies

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marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 8:31 PM

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languid stump you can do 600% starting size, low evolution factors, and increase terrain pollu...

I want without terrain pollution absorption
cuz it's like killing the point of having to clean up your pollution via biters

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 8:31 PM

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it wont, because you will produce so much more :p

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I think the cloud will get big anyway

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that basically lets you produce 36x as much with 600% start / 600% terrain absorb

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before biter fight

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36 * 45 (my normal spm) = 1.6k spm

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 8:32 PM

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I'm still gunning for that 30 all infinite science after 2.0 launch with x1k

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Gonna be a big goal

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 8:33 PM

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steep spindle I'm still gunning for that 30 all infinite science after 2.0 launch with x1k

drone speed research being like:

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 8:33 PM

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wasteful but o well

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steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 8:36 PM

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They prolly want that full vanilla tho

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AAAAAHHHHH eyes

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If only a dev would respond to that inquiry

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 8:51 PM

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steep spindle I've thought about putting biters on the lowest possible settings that still gai...

I've got biters haven't seen them sneaky bastards

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 8:52 PM

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steep spindle I'm still gunning for that 30 all infinite science after 2.0 launch with x1k

Ooh you'll do it too?! 😍

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 9:00 PM

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mossy saddle Ooh you'll do it too?! 😍

Yep

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:01 PM

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Yes we can do it together and help each other if we're a little stuck:P

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 9:12 PM

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mossy saddle Yes we can do it together and help each other if we're a little stuck:P

Indeed

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 9:20 PM

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I queued up everything to get to prod module1

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Seems to be the next rush target for me

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I suppose I should start smelting a bunch of copper for the red chips

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:28 PM

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😆 yes you need loads of copper!

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 9:29 PM

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About 6 red belts of it for my blue science production target yeah

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:29 PM

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1.8k or 3.6k?

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 9:30 PM

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1.8k

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I may have to double it if it’s too slow but the researches to rush robots aren’t that expensive

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So I might just do a bit more afk

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:32 PM

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I'd double it and give it to ggs

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I'll be able to play Factorio again tomorrow got myself a new pc

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 9:34 PM

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Nice!

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The journey continues

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:34 PM

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Still upset that it died though

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 9:41 PM

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steep spindle I'm still gunning for that 30 all infinite science after 2.0 launch with x1k

Wait do you mean the 30 sciences mod?

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 9:42 PM

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marble stream Wait do you mean the 30 sciences mod?

Nope, level 30 on the infinite science

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:42 PM

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30 inf science like bots speed xd

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 9:42 PM

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mossy saddle 30 inf science like bots speed xd

boys speed
AnimeMining.jpeg

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:43 PM

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xD it's auto correction!

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 9:43 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/231518135231053825/1189674695486877736/image.png?ex=659f05e6&is=658c90e6&hm=95c713a9816af9eb7e3c15e85e156667ddb122f21170351a0e1142a63d4a612c&

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@mossy saddle Does this look like boys speed you did mean? (drone mining productivity)

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:44 PM

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X-x I saw someone request that before never knew it existed

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 9:44 PM

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mossy saddle X-x I saw someone request that before never knew it existed

Ehat exactly

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 9:45 PM

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marble stream https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/231518135231053825/1189674695486877736/...

That mod is a trap

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 9:45 PM

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UPS trap?

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:45 PM

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They were like "can't we make the engineer an anime wifu or something xd

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 9:46 PM

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long mauve UPS trap?

No, to a point where it can't produce the same as electric miners

long mauve Dec 28, 2023, 9:46 PM

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Makes sense

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 9:47 PM

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mossy saddle They were like "can't we make the engineer an anime wifu or something xd

https://mods.factorio.com/user/plexpt

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Or whatever

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 9:47 PM

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Oh Lord xD

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That's a trap

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 10:21 PM

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I wonder if it would be easier to go design it in test world then port it into the main world

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AAAAAHHHHH

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I don't wanna but I know I need to fix it

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 10:35 PM

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steep spindle I wonder if it would be easier to go design it in test world then port it into t...

Usually

mossy saddle Dec 28, 2023, 10:55 PM

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I just make it in the main world and then I see all my inserters going the wrong way and tear it down xd

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 11:13 PM

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this should help with the handbuild efforts

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steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 11:13 PM

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nice!

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I wish a dev would respond to that earlier comment tho

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 11:14 PM

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steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 11:14 PM

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#1188693488464834623 message

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that one

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 11:14 PM

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languid stump

eyes

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 11:14 PM

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need more powa!

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productivity_module coming soon

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and I wanna spread the load a lot so the coal mines will last until the solar starts

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:19 PM

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languid stump and I wanna spread the load a lot so the coal mines will last until the solar st...

🤔
How huge solar are you goiyto need

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 11:26 PM

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solar? you say

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marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:27 PM

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steep spindle solar? you say

Do you green module?

stark wigeon Dec 28, 2023, 11:28 PM

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languid stump and I wanna spread the load a lot so the coal mines will last until the solar st...

animeSmirk

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:28 PM

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steep spindle solar? you say

I see, just 60MW

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:28 PM

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languid stump and I wanna spread the load a lot so the coal mines will last until the solar st...

So you are only mining the center half of patches?

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 11:29 PM

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mining center first is the way to go ChibiSmug

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its nice when the only logistics the outpost needs is a power pole

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:30 PM

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languid stump

What's your map ratios again

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:30 PM

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languid stump its nice when the only logistics the outpost needs is a power pole

True

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:30 PM

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languid stump mining center first is the way to go <:ChibiSmug:448119647925960705>

Do you x1000? Vanilla?

stark wigeon Dec 28, 2023, 11:31 PM

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You are in the x1000 chat..

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:31 PM

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stark wigeon You are in the x1000 chat..

Do you x1000? Vanilla?

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:32 PM

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stark wigeon You are in the x1000 chat..

Someone here is k2sex100

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 11:32 PM

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vanilla x1000

marble stream Dec 28, 2023, 11:33 PM

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@languid stump have you checked undigested adding x1000 to nickname

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*considered

languid stump Dec 28, 2023, 11:37 PM

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this is the x1000 thread

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I see no reason to tag my name if I am just talking about it here

stark wigeon Dec 28, 2023, 11:43 PM

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WatameHuh

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Wtf lol

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@ing someone 3 times in a row and askingg if they're doing x1000 in the x1000 chat is straight up baffling

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HUHH

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 11:54 PM

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YOOOO

steep spindle Dec 28, 2023, 11:54 PM

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marble stream Do you green module?

only 1 build has eff mods

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:12 AM

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720 MW added

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quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 12:13 AM

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steep spindle I'm still gunning for that 30 all infinite science after 2.0 launch with x1k

What do you mean “30 all infinite?”

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Oh, level 30 all infinite

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engithink

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Is the question just how much it’s gonna cost or?

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:14 AM

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I think I just wanna do 1 more coal power plant before starting the blue science build

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:14 AM

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like those

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:14 AM

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Wouldn’t wanna have a blackout

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 12:15 AM

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languid stump I think I just wanna do 1 more coal power plant before starting the blue science...

What’s your target production rate

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:15 AM

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.<

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 12:16 AM

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You’ll be around 800MW to 1.2GW just for the blue science if you do 3.6K/m

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:16 AM

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I’m trying to hit 1.8k /min

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:16 AM

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my base trying to produce everything right now

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:16 AM

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And I think I’ll be around that much power bc lots of productivity_module

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Then I can get bots with somewhat small builds

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And then do solar and scale science too

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:18 AM

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steep spindle my base trying to produce everything right now

Damn I almost caught up to your power

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How do you run on that much?

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efficiency_module ?

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:19 AM

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well looks like logistic_science and a couple other things arent full

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only things on efficiency_module is electric_mining_drill but 2 patches

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:20 AM

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Oh hm

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:20 AM

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2 patches are productivity_module and 2 patches are speed_module

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:20 AM

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Well, I got some good progress in today

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:21 AM

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this thing is the most recent

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:21 AM

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Built 20 copies of the 1:20:40 by hand lol

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:21 AM

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@marble stream you were asking earlier the how?

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 12:21 AM

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languid stump Built 20 copies of the 1:20:40 by hand lol

I hope you’re using a helper mod like ghostplacer

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Nope!

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Just practicing speedrun style walk and click

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And blueprints that have long lines of machines for you to do that with

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 12:22 AM

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Carpal tunnel speedrun

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:23 AM

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I just get this full and

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this is gonna just rock

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 12:23 AM

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Oh and, some good music :D.

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 12:24 AM

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marble stream Someone here is k2sex100

K2 sex 100 flooooshed

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Honestly I should just get to building and stop caring about placement of my stuff

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I’m using trains after all! Who cares where it goes

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As long as I can build a section of it without it being over an ore patch it should be fine

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 12:48 AM

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pressing on

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steel is only half way working right now anyway

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might use this soon

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its getting worse....

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lol

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yike...

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 1:25 AM

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steep spindle yike...

“Some machines”

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:25 AM

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yeah, there are 0 soeed mods in machines they are all in ore patches

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the prods are in machines, but also ore patches

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 1:26 AM

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No, the rate calculator

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:26 AM

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oh 312

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haha

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 1:26 AM

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“Some machines don’t have power”

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:26 AM

#

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its not connected to the grid

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 1:28 AM

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I’m thinking that once I get robots it might be good to do some sushi rails

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Should help with the scaling for unlocking rocket

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This is a fun challenge

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:30 AM

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gaaa

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75mw mining patch

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 1:31 AM

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Just make some more solar ;D.

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Maybe I’ll join you on speed1 mining after I get my solar going

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:31 AM

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I started that till I get beacons

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because blast

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 1:37 AM

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I just got oil processing

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I think I should go collect some crude oil and bring it to a copper patch for the red chips

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And bring some iron and coal too

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Hopefully I can get that built before prod modules research comes in, and then I can be making those right away

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:42 AM

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this just works out some how lol

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time to turn the ore patch on and watch some power burn

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 1:52 AM

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languid stump I’m thinking that once I get robots it might be good to do some sushi rails

Same

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:53 AM

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lul

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finally cooking with gas

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consumption rate^

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 2:09 AM

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this should FIX IT...

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AAAAAHHHHH

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 2:20 AM

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steep spindle

Nice!!

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 2:21 AM

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its slowly working

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 2:21 AM

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languid stump Nice!!

hype

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 2:21 AM

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What hour do you think you’ll get your rocket at this rate

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 2:21 AM

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steep spindle

That’s really good

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 2:29 AM

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languid stump What hour do you think you’ll get your rocket at this rate

good question

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getting production_science up here VERY shortly

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watching this disintegrate ore is kinda fun ngl

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kinda looks cool too

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I'm not doing this on purpose IO swear....

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 3:16 AM

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@stark wigeon are you doing x1000? :p

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 3:19 AM

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Clown

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 3:21 AM

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We might need someone to do pyanodons

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Sooo are you up for the task?

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 3:32 AM

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I built copper mines for my blue science and most of the furnaces for the iron / copper

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Just gotta connect some iron over there, some coal, and then make a red belt of steel and I can put together the blue science

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But enough for today

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Oh and oil yeah

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:04 AM

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Gonna hopefully get this steel squared away then it's onto purple science

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 4:04 AM

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oooo, here's a fun one!

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x1000 seablock

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:04 AM

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oh no

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:21 AM

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quiet sandal x1000 seablock

Are you trying to inflict pain?

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I've set a goal out now to have this base have a minimum of purple science up (not stabilized) by next week's end

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If I can make steel fully stable and my power grid not die tomorrow I'd say it's doable

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Because the ore miner I'm hooking up is really close and it's pumping nearly 7 belts out

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:24 AM

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long mauve oh no

I went ahead and said screw it till beacons

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Got 3.4k stable first 3 packs

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:24 AM

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fair enough, beacons are gonna be a game changer

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id beef up your mall and module production

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:25 AM

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Mall might be smart on the to-do list before purple tbh

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Make a train mall hype 🤔 eyes

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O.o dedicated train mall for smelters, base laying, and overall items

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:26 AM

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do it! sounds fun

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:26 AM

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That sounds hella fun to figure out

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I need zzz tho

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So gn

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:27 AM

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goodnight

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it sounds hella complicated to me though

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:29 AM

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I think it will be easier after you see it, but I have an idea for it

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Gonna do a test world on it tomorrow

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:30 AM

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keep me updated!

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:31 AM

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Always, just check back here or I'll ping you haha

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:31 AM

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I try to read everything here but then you guys sent 200 messages :P

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:32 AM

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Haha

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 4:32 AM

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I think I can get blue science started tomorrow

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Maybe robots

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:32 AM

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languid stump I think I can get blue science started tomorrow

O.o that will be cool to see

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:32 AM

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nice! I hope to get robots tonight

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have you done any trains I havent seen your base

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:33 AM

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long mauve nice! I hope to get robots tonight

Base photo?

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:33 AM

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yeah

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i was talking to putin ive seen your base

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:33 AM

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languid stump

heres one, doesnt look like it

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:33 AM

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That was at you 🙂

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:33 AM

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ahhh

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 4:33 AM

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No trains yet!

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I’m hand placing rn so using trains would just about double the science cost to get bots

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:34 AM

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lots of trains, 1-4

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:34 AM

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long mauve lots of trains, 1-4

Wow

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 4:34 AM

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Which is a lot more hand placing xD

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:35 AM

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and heres this pretty cool adjustable sushi mall train ive made

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 4:35 AM

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Looks nice fireball

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:35 AM

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you just set items in the constant_combinator , any excess will be put in those chests and those chests will then output back when its needed

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:35 AM

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languid stump I’m hand placing rn so using trains would just about double the science cost to ...

Your trying to rush bots before trains?

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:36 AM

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hes crazy and doesnt want to use companion drones

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 4:36 AM

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Yeppp

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I need those bots

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Then I can just make a zero effort roboport grid and spam new mines and furnaces

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:37 AM

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I'm the opposite on bots, not one in the base

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 4:37 AM

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And launch this rocket ChibiSmug

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Whaaa

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Wild

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:37 AM

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thats insane

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:38 AM

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Outside companion drones 😂

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 4:38 AM

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still haha bots are life

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 4:44 AM

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I mean, don't get me wrong my first base is bot galore

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But with the amount of roboports and robots I'd need for this

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I said no for design reasons

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I'd have waaaaaay more power issues if I used them

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:21 AM

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bleh

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I need to consider where I place my rails

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so that I don't have to cross them to keep trains going forward on the right-side tracks

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:36 AM

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long mauve and heres this pretty cool adjustable sushi mall train ive made

Love it! Not the powerlines tho! 😛

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Did someone already try seablock x1000?

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:37 AM

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I don't think anyone is crazy enough to do that

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I would go insane

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 5:38 AM

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mossy saddle Love it! Not the powerlines tho! 😛

yeah the power lines are a mess, especially when you look at the green_wire red_wire on the big poles being two different networks

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cant see it here though

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:38 AM

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quiet sandal I would go insane

But is it possible?👀

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:39 AM

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well, sure it's "possible"

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seablock has infinite resources after all

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:39 AM

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xD I'll have to send you into the powerlines bootcamp fireball!

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Hmmm interesting to know 🤔

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Anyone wanna do it with me?

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:39 AM

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nawr

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 5:40 AM

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dont look at these :P

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:40 AM

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in seablock you start on a 2x2 tile island with a small rock

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that rock is just a retextured chest basically

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has all your starting materials, so you don't actually have anything in your inventory

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:41 AM

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long mauve dont look at these :P

We're the diagonals on the red circuit assemblers a choice? 👀

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:41 AM

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you have to pump seawater and filter it through many processes to get raw materials

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:41 AM

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You start with some small bit of power and windmills xd

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:41 AM

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yeah

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but it's minutes per plate in the early game

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 5:42 AM

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no just me being a lazy blueprinter

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:42 AM

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and having more players does not speed that up

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in x1000 seablock would go from being a 300 hour modpack to a 300,000 hour modpack

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300 is probably on the low side

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:43 AM

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Wouldn't it go faster over time cus you get land faster?

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 5:43 AM

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long mauve dont look at these :P

I've had that problem

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:43 AM

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well sure

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:44 AM

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So the first 200hours is just hell

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But atleast there are no random rocks you got to dodge xD

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:44 AM

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yeah

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:45 AM

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So it's tempting? 👀

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 5:46 AM

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no

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seablock alone is torture enough haha

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:48 AM

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But why not make it worse!

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:51 AM

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here we go

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made some real progress today

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it's still slow progress, but actual progress

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:13 AM

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yup, I did the same. just beefed up some mines and power

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:13 AM

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I finished my petroleum refining

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next is hooking up more oil extraction and the rail network

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then plastics and red circuits before I start on blue science

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somewhere in there I'll also be building more red and green science since my blue science will be doubling my current output

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also set up this tiny stone mine next to my factory to produce landfill

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that should be gone soon

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:34 AM

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You might need more landfill if you didn't turn water all the way down in map settings

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@mossy saddle Ive noticed a potential issue in the midgame where imersite is going to be a huge problem

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It's used a lot in material testing packs and the imersite seams usually aren't very rich, the miners only accept 2 prod mods as well

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:35 AM

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Ooh right I forgot we don't have 600% richness on other planets 😆

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:35 AM

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Could become a pretty big issue, since core mining is pretty abysmal with these resource requirements, though I guess we just have to exploit the trim and regenerate "feature"

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:36 AM

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Are they always not very rich?

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:36 AM

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Will probably be forced to do that

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:36 AM

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mossy saddle Are they always not very rich?

In my experience yeah unless the imersite is the dominant one

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It's quite a bit worse than others because only 2 module slots

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:36 AM

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Hmmmm hope I'll find one that's dominate then ngl...

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:36 AM

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Compared to big drills that's 24% less prod

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:36 AM

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How far are you in the run now?

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:36 AM

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Might even not have one in calidus

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:37 AM

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mossy saddle How far are you in the run now?

New mall is done, gonna connect up more mines to build 1.8k basic/red/green

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:37 AM

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Oh you're also at green! ^^

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I couldn't play last 3days PC died sadly new one arives today

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:38 AM

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Dang rip

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How's the 3 day factorio withdrawal symptoms lol

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I've also built enough iron/copper/brick smelting for 1.8k blue, but by that point I can already use steel furnaces and red belts to double it

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:40 AM

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mossy saddle Sooo are you up for the task?

First of all, I've never played pyanodon's

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:40 AM

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vagrant anchor How's the 3 day factorio withdrawal symptoms lol

Life gets boring without Factorio

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And playing with friends

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:40 AM

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Second of all, how hellish would this be

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:40 AM

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But don't we all love hellish things? 😦

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:41 AM

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There's a line

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:41 AM

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That's why we're doing x1000!

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:41 AM

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Between masochism and pure cbt

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:41 AM

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xD there's a line between barely having sanity and completely losing it

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CBT? 🤣

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Ooh

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:41 AM

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You... dont wanna know

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:41 AM

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Nvm I know

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Lmao

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I'll have to change my name to cbt when I do that then

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:42 AM

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Here's cbt andy again

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:42 AM

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What is cbt

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:43 AM

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stark wigeon Between masochism and pure cbt

It's not masochism, it's fun

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:43 AM

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Its what you think it is

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:43 AM

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xD

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:43 AM

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Pyanodon's x1000 looks like a nightmare

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 8:43 AM

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stark wigeon Here's cbt andy again

Imagine someone calling himself that

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I mean I got 2 choices

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Bobsangels+mad clown+ 30 science x1000 or pyanodons x1000

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:45 AM

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stark wigeon Pyanodon's x1000 looks like a nightmare

Don't do it. It's not toturing yourself, its toturing your computer and your power bill

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Your ups will become like 1 later on

stark wigeon Dec 29, 2023, 8:55 AM

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I'll have to offload computation onto a different machine using that parallel universes mod

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 8:55 AM

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The clusterio mod?

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 12:28 PM

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vagrant anchor The clusterio mod?

х100k biters dupebox clasterio MMO event when

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:24 PM

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x100k? you are mad

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man i wish the SE ore patches were bigger and more normal

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i need to get 26 belts of copper for science...

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when i double it with red belts ill probably bring it in with trains

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not fun doing belts from so many patches

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 1:30 PM

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It helps to compress the copper next to the ore patch

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Send a half belt of stone brick and coal to the ore patch

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Bring back chips hahayes

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This is how I’m doing it for my blue science, except iron / coal / crude oil, for red chips

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:33 PM

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i should have done that but oh well

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i already built a centralised smelter

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i guess ill say it "makes future upgrading easier"

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:33 PM

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vagrant anchor x100k? you are mad

GG is playing x1k and did use just 10% of UPS iirc
So x10k is, well, possible
So if you have 10 Clusterio servers, x100k should be possible
Theoretically

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:34 PM

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he probably has a pretty good cpu

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and any multiplayer theoretically should be possible either way

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:35 PM

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And Dupebox should optimize UPS of huge tiled builds by x10

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:35 PM

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its just how long you want to wait

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:35 PM

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marble stream And Dupebox should optimize UPS of huge tiled builds by x10

ooh thats a cool mod

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 1:35 PM

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vagrant anchor i need to get 26 belts of copper for science...

How much you going for?

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:35 PM

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definitely using it for my run

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:36 PM

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mossy saddle How much you going for?

1.8k basic/red/green/blue, then double to 3.6k

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probably will build blue 3.6k straight up

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 1:37 PM

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I'm going for 5k when I get my trains

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 1:38 PM

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Vanilla but I’m going 1.8k for bots

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Then going for more

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I think

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Though I was looking at the numbers and I think I could just go right for silo with 1.8k

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With some afk time a bit and not really care lol

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:38 PM

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vagrant anchor ooh thats a cool mod

Not really it won't work with liquids properly until 2.0 cuz no linked-pipe

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 1:38 PM

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Not sure how much redesign and growth im really gonna want to do

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:39 PM

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marble stream Not really it won't work with liquids properly until 2.0 cuz no linked-pipe

itll still help with no liquid stuff right?

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:41 PM

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vagrant anchor itll still help with no liquid stuff right?

Well, you need the power
It doesn't have the power teleporiong yet so you can only use boilers and maybe solar basically

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:41 PM

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vagrant anchor he probably has a pretty good cpu

I do have a really nice one

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:41 PM

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marble stream Well, you need the power It doesn't have the power teleporiong yet so you can on...

would the additional electric network be bad

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or is it not counted

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:42 PM

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I feel like I get that question quite a lot in here

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:44 PM

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vagrant anchor would the additional electric network be bad

Well, I don't think it may be worse then ten belts of smelting it replaces

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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ill do some testing

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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vagrant anchor ill do some testing

\o/ yay a tester

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:47 PM

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though my cpu kinda sucks so yeah

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also its not actual like organised testing

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ill just compare stuff

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will get back to you soon tm

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:49 PM

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I'm going to do a rewrite so please tell me your experiences and mod limitations and what can I improve
I have a half-baked chained-belt concept that can be used for low-throughput items

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So you may multiply a factory that produces 1i/s of ten different items rather then only 15i/s of one item

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 1:51 PM

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vagrant anchor itll still help with no liquid stuff right?

...
Ackchually
There's

Coal Liquefaction

candid shadow · 2023-12-25T04:04:32.874Z

High Science Multiplier | Factorio | Page 1

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 1:51 PM

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it can do not exactly 15i/s right?

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like 4/s stuff like that

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so does the mod calculate the output and input based on a scan of the machines?

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so you just condense a production line into a single machine basically

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 1:55 PM

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Are production modules and rails a one-to-one insertion on purple science or are rails two to one?

vagrant anchor Dec 29, 2023, 2:00 PM

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depends on modules and beacons, without modules its 1 to 2 i think

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 2:01 PM

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No modules are beacons are included in this

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Doing a bare bones build of about a thousand science per minute just to get beacons

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 2:02 PM

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vagrant anchor it can do not exactly 15i/s right?

There is UPS price per each belt which doesn't depend on belt speed an used belt throughput
So if your average belt throughout per block will be below some value I didn't calculate it will be worse for UPS then not using Dupebox

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 2:03 PM

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vagrant anchor like 4/s stuff like that

You may try with a single 0.25ips stone furnace block

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:07 PM

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mossy saddle I couldn't play last 3days PC died sadly new one arives today

what happened

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:14 PM

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Some fan blades died and make a ticking noise so I had to buy a new one but it arrived today, not installed yet tho I went to get some drinks

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 5:21 PM

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mossy saddle Some fan blades died and make a ticking noise so I had to buy a new one but it a...

God I hope that doesn't happen to my case

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:22 PM

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😆 I hope so for you! Thank God we have cool blue that delivers new items in a day

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:23 PM

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mossy saddle Some fan blades died and make a ticking noise so I had to buy a new one but it a...

wait, that's all?

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:23 PM

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It was in a laptop I dismantled it fully but I couldn't open the fan case without destroying it 😆

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So now I just got an i7 4050 which should be plenty..

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:23 PM

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engithink

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did you take pictures of it

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:24 PM

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To fix it or?

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:24 PM

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I've never seen a laptop where the fan can't be replaced

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:24 PM

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The fan can be replaced but I'd rather upgrade my PC 😛

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Now i got a more beefie PC hehe

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All that matters for my x1000 run!!

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Since I was pretty sure I wouldn't be able to use many bots if I wanted to finish it with old one

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:25 PM

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btw blueprints don't use steam cloud by default

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:25 PM

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Really?!

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Well there goes my rails and balancers xd

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:25 PM

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so if you didn't have that enabled, turn on your old PC and go into the settings to enable it

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even without the fan it should work long enough to do that

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:26 PM

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I'll try that is it in Factorio settings?

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Since I got about 10m time till it overheats and dies

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 5:27 PM

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the laptop will shut itself off to prevent overheating, but should be fine otherwise

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it's in settings > other

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you can do it in the home screen

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but do it on your old laptop, if you enable it first on the new one then that'll overwrite your old laptop's blueprints

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 5:29 PM

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I just save that in an entirely different folder

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 5:29 PM

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Alrighty I'll do what I can 😛

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I'm also a PC nerd do I know a thing or 2

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 5:43 PM

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Gonna complete my steel on lunch and tonight gun for a production_science set up

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:04 PM

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marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 6:05 PM

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quiet sandal

Looks pointless

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:05 PM

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overkill? yes

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but I need a lot of oil

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so I need to build a lot of supply

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 6:06 PM

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quiet sandal overkill? yes

I mean why just 1 tank

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:06 PM

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that's just a small buffer for the station

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:07 PM

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you probably want 1 tank per wagon so that it loads very quickly

marble stream Dec 29, 2023, 6:07 PM

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quiet sandal

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1 tank per wagon, 1 pump per wagon

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1 underground between them

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Maybe with a pump

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6k throughput or something

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:11 PM

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without modules my refinery needs 4.9 pipes of oil a minute, with modules it's decreased down to around 2

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so I didn't design the stations for very high throughput, I just need to have enough oil extraction

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I've connected the rail networks now

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now I just need to set up the signals and extend my rail line to add more oil extraction

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:29 PM

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@steep spindle hm, companion drones are not taking out of a train

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:29 PM

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long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:29 PM

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oh I have to be in the train

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:29 PM

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long mauve oh I have to be in the train

yeah

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:29 PM

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Excuse me, 30,000 science factor???

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:29 PM

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that should "fix" it

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quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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This guy is leaving out essential information

candid shadow Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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am I stupid
I mean… you said it

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Isn’t the max science multiplier 1,000?

candid shadow Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Surprise pikachu face ensues

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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Or can you go higher

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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quiet sandal Isn’t the max science multiplier 1,000?

yes

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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quiet sandal Isn’t the max science multiplier 1,000?

without doing some mod stuf yes

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:30 PM

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unless they did something to it recently

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:31 PM

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with a simple mod you can go much higher

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:31 PM

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I've been trying to find a way to do 50k....

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LOL

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:32 PM

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you just make a mod that adjusts the cost to be more than 1 science pack to get a level. so instead of 1 red * 50K, its 10 * 50K

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 6:34 PM

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steep spindle

your wires look so wonky or is it me xd

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:35 PM

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its the way the pattern is

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 6:35 PM

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quiet sandal https://www.reddit.com/r/factorio/s/773yEFcKHH

pfft he didn't even do K2

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 6:36 PM

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steep spindle its the way the pattern is

is it possible to put it in middle?

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:36 PM

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sadly no

mossy saddle Dec 29, 2023, 6:36 PM

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awh that upsets me

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:47 PM

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steel is set up

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gotta head back to work

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after work it will be full blast on designing a direct insertion production_science build

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 6:53 PM

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mossy saddle awh that upsets me

Yeah it's AAAAAHHHHH

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 6:57 PM

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I didnt know I researched this 🤦‍♂️ it wouldve made life so much easier

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 7:39 PM

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oh that could've been bad

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steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 8:03 PM

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quiet sandal oh that could've been bad

What happened?

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 8:04 PM

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hit by a train

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 8:04 PM

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Oh

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Welcome to the club!

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AAAAAHHHHH hype

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 8:08 PM

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I think my blue science is finally stabilizing. Just had to fix some copper and oil isuses

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and only 1 hour away from bots :D

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im going to guess the next issue I have is something with iron

steep spindle Dec 29, 2023, 8:14 PM

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Iron is more than likely your problem next

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Because production_science is steel

quiet sandal Dec 29, 2023, 8:16 PM

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raise iron extraction to 100,000 per minute

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 8:29 PM

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long mauve and only 1 hour away from bots :D

Nice!!

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 8:29 PM

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long mauve and only 1 hour away from bots :D

What game hour will that be

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 9:01 PM

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should be making them at 43

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I can start making the frames now, then the construction bot research will finish at 42:30 if nothing breaks

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 9:04 PM

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Nice

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I’m hoping for similar time

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Plastic is about to finish

long mauve Dec 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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nice, one thing that slowed me down was making an outpost for each ingredient of blue science. if I combine it I would save a couple hours

languid stump Dec 29, 2023, 9:05 PM

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Mm, I’m gonna combine it I think yeah

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Maybe steel I’ll make at this other iron patch in the middle of no where

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If the other 2 can’t get me 10 red belts

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