Mega moon rocket 🚀

[fringe fjord]

Threaded

I forgot this was today

[tame thunder]

I just saw it on morning news.

[sly ermine]

it's tomorrow isn't it?

[tame thunder]

29th 08:33 EDT

https://earthsky.org/space/artemis1-our-return-to-moon/

[copper flame]

[sly ermine]

all the clocks i'm looking at say 22hrs

[scenic dragon]

Artemis 1 SLS launch will be at ~~<t:1661776380:F>, <t:1661776380:R> (8:33 a.m. local time). ~~
EDIT: Launch has been scrubbed due to an issue with engine bleed.
New launch time: <t:1662229020:f>, <t:1662229020:R>
Another EDIT: scrubbed as well due to a leak in the fuelling system. New launch time TBA, most likely mid October.

Official live coverage starts 2 hours before launch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLD0Lp0JBg

[tame thunder]

From Florida.

Gotta account for time zones

[sly ermine]

no zones if you only count down :p

[scenic dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SkLFDypXH0

[sly ermine]

thus, 22 hrs

[scenic dragon]

I get discord to do that for me :P

And for everyone else at the same time

[scenic dragon]

There

[fringe fjord]

hm.. it does make sense that they'd avoid a Sunday launch if they aren't trying to align some exotic maneuver

[sly ermine]

yeah for "just" a lunar transfer you can pretty much do it whenever

[tawny radish]

womp

[oblique mango]

"as anyone who has played KSP knows!"

[foggy crescent]

bruh

i posted about this and the utc (gmt 0) launch time in the jwst already

makes sense to have a separate thread i guess

[tame thunder]

nah launch at night so you get that clean daylit apex.

[rigid orchid]

lets go

so whats the plan:

• this launched is an uncrewed around the moon and back
• crewed mission around the moon and back planned for 2024
• land on the moon "planned" for 2025 (hahah just kidding a few years later)

[oblique mango]

I feel as though this is appropriate…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5TOLg-9HbY

[jovial plank]

Also tim dodd's new livestream van so loads more tracked 4k views https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9x-QkWCzrc

[scenic dragon]

Added

[keen elbow]

Ah ;)

these thread topics are so hard to notice, bad UI design from discord

[oblique mango]

you said "in about two hours", did they move up the schedule? it's just under three hours to, afaik

[keen elbow]

I said "about"

not almost

-02:17 now

[oblique mango]

:17, not :47?

[keen elbow]

hmm, the counter of the channel I'm watching might be wrong, just checked another and it's -2:46 indeed

🤷

[oblique mango]

0833 local time (EDT) [unless something changes / has changed]

[keen elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9x-QkWCzrc / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_vyZiVxEEo

no idea why the timer differences

at least NSF has commentary, less boring than waiting on a static image at EDA

[oblique mango]

different streamers may be covering different things in the lead-up to launch

[keen elbow]

video from nasa also shows -02:12

I think EDA's timer is wrong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

seriously, nasa official stream is still 720p?? wow...

it's funny that the streams that are being sent to the media are 1080p, but their own main stream is 720

[keen elbow]

oh no

[copper flame]

Well this is the official "Artemis 1 launch stream"
https://youtu.be/CMLD0Lp0JBg

[keen elbow]

hold :(

[foggy crescent]

i made it

[bleak heron]

Moon time

[foggy crescent]

indeed looks like it got moved

the stream was supposed to start 2 hours earlier than what it shows now

anyway

even if it doesnt launch today i think they have 2 more launch windows in august/september

[keen elbow]

unless they decide it's still so bad that it needs to go back to the VAB and replace engines or whatever

then it's pretty much byebye for this year

[foggy crescent]

''The two-hour launch window opens at 8:33 a.m. EDT (12:33 UTC) Monday, Aug. 29. ''

so i guess were still on time

i just dont get why they listed earlier that the stream will start 2 hours before it

[keen elbow]

yeah but the issue isn't fixed

oh well, I guess no launch is better than an Astra "launch"

[jovial plank]

weather is currently no go due to incoming rain clouds

[foggy crescent]

damn

[sly ermine]

Engine trouble too

[jovial plank]

but honestly that hydrogen leak issue in engine 3 is still being investigated so I doubt they'll have it ready in time for today's launch window

[keen elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfjO7VCyjPM scrub a lot better than... this ;)

[sly ermine]

Yeah not sounding good for today tbh

[jovial plank]

some of them are 4K

[keen elbow]

no 4k details unfortunately

[jovial plank]

EDA has direct fibre access to many of their engineering cams which is super cool lol

[foggy crescent]

yeah, it just got delayed by another 30mins

[keen elbow]

stream might be 4k but the upscaling is visible when freeze-framing and looking closer

[jovial plank]

F

[foggy crescent]

not launching today

if they fix the engine problem the next launch window is september 2

[keen elbow]

🇫

[tame thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/fit-throwing-a-fit-whine-ahh-upset-gif-5676618

[scenic dragon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLhhb0Vlejs
Update livestream in less than 10 minutes

[copper flame]

Is it just me or is the audio really effed up

[fringe fjord]

rofl not just you

[ruby moth]

it is bad I thought it was my headset

[scenic dragon]

No idea, I'm watching Zero Punctuation myself

[bleak heron]

mfs using DOS and the fucking PC speaker

[rigid orchid]

the audio is unbelievably bad

oh good

videos back but the nasa logo is bugged

seems about right

[ruby moth]

The funny thing is theres nearly 2000 people watching it..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg

the audio seems fine on this stream

[rigid orchid]

nice!

and the one with terrible production is unlisted

[keen elbow]

what in the world happened with their production system ? :))

audio, logo... wow

[rigid orchid]

i think the unlisted one isnt meant for people to see it

the one Fireball linked works great

[rigid orchid]

me waiting for the next launch window

[fringe fjord]

. . . 🎣

[bleak heron]

lol, which explosion is that image from

[rigid orchid]

wait what lol

[sly ermine]

insert "that's bait" here

[rigid orchid]

i cant even find that

[ruby moth]

i think its photoshop

[rigid orchid]

i think its real just from something else

i mean i cant find the channel

[scenic dragon]

Probably something SpaceX

[jovial plank]

The worst thing about the image is the space between explosion and !

[sly ermine]

arent' those the lightning tower at 39A in the not-fireball part of the frame? so presumably one of the various F9 that did that

i guess not that many did it on the pad though

that one facebook sat one probably?

[tame thunder]

Kerning pain.

NASA has backup launch dates for the 2nd and 5th of September.

[keen rivet]

Yep, it's the AMOS-6 anomaly. It exploded on the pad during a static fire.

One of the only two RUDs of a falcon 9

[sly ermine]

uh

surely you're missing another qualifier on that?

because they definitely blew up a LOT of them to get teh landings right :p

[keen rivet]

I meant on the way up lol

[sly ermine]

i think my favorite is still the one that lost its gridfins on the way back and did a little spin before it hit the water

[keen rivet]

I feel like it could have landed if it tried. It almost stabilized itself right before it hit

[sly ermine]

yeah

[keen rivet]

Better to be safe though

[sly ermine]

was it the one that surprise-survived hitting the water too or am i mixing them up?

[keen rivet]

There was one that survived early on in the landing program and they had to get the navy to detonate it

But this one also unexpectedly survived

[sly ermine]

yeah a couple have but i was thinking there was one more recent where they theyn spent the next day going "well shit how do we tow this backnow?"

[keen rivet]

(or maybe they used the AFTS, can't remember)

Yeah, that was the spinney boi

[sly ermine]

there definitely was one a while ago that they got the military to blow up for them though yeah (i thought it was air force though?)

just to like, get it otu of teh waterway where it was in the way

[keen rivet]

I am almost definitely wrong about who did it. someone had to blow it up

Oh, maybe it was the FH center core that tipped?

[sly ermine]

but yeah always fun when you suddenly have a rocket in the water you werent' expecting :p

[foggy crescent]

i think it got moved to september 3

[jovial plank]

From the 2nd?

[keen elbow]

Wouldn't it be funny if the entire program gets cancelled after the first test flight ? :P

[foggy crescent]

yes

it got moved to 3rd due to unfavourable weather on the 2nd

the launch window is 18:17 - 20:17 utc

[ruby moth]

don't even jinx it :P
sorry for the late response my finger slipped after I saw it was 14 hours ago

[oblique mango]

it's amazingly difficult to find accurate info… is the the pin's info of 2022-09-02 1248 EDT launch time still correct (approx 10.5 hours from now) ?

[fringe fjord]

I just googled nasa launch schedule and got this- https://www.nasa.gov/launchschedule/

[oblique mango]

"my ineptitude knows no bounds!"

looks like the pin should be updated

[fringe fjord]

I've had to be reminded I could open my window when I said it was too hot..over the internet. We all have our moments. :P

[scenic dragon]

Will do later

[foggy crescent]

i literally posted the new date and time

[scenic dragon]

Discord time stamps though :P

[foggy crescent]

ok

ill introduce you to international time zones/standards

[foggy crescent]

UTC or Coordinated Universal Time, also known as Zulu time in the military. Its within about 1 second of mean solar time at 0° longitude and is not adjusted for daylight saving time. Its effectively a successor to Greenwhich Mean Time (GMT). In other words its GMT 0. You should know on which GMT zone you live and then it becomes a matter of adding/subtracting.

[scenic dragon]

<t:1662229020:f>

[jovial plank]

😂

Could also make a webhook that sends updates from the RSS feed

[ruby moth]

Of course they schedule it when I’m busy

[oblique mango]

it's not that I don't trust you, but the short of it is that I don't trust you, especially when it contradicts information through slightly more official channels (and yes, pinned messages qualify). At the very least, you are vindicated 😉

[foggy crescent]

contradicts how?

its literally from nasa

all i did was convert the time to utc for us international people

and is a pinned message a "slightly more official channel" even when it has an outdated info?

or is it simply because a mod posted it?

[fringe fjord]

Remember that a response like that is the opposite of personal [to you] when it's drawn from someone's personal experiences rather than anything they didn't know about you in the first place! It's easy to fall into the trap of someone's reaction seeming like they know or are implying more than they actually are.

And yes: This situation (the pins being out of date) is a good reminder that mods are people too :P

I could also understand there being an element of giving more weight to a timestamp formatted such that it displays for everyone in their local time in Discord over UTC in this medium but that's probably a rather spurious signal for determining trust all things considered 🤔

[foggy crescent]

its fine

and i probably shouldve used the timestamp thing. didnt know it was a thing

[fringe fjord]

Discord should really have a built-in UI for it! https://hammertime.cyou/ is one way of generating them

[foggy crescent]

yeah

[oblique mango]

it was less the lack of timestamp than it was lack of provenance in the message you provided. Linking to the launch schedule page with your updated launch window info would have been a boon. My intent was not to belittle your contribution, but to give context to my hesitancy and confusion

[foggy crescent]

its ok

i see your point

[foggy crescent]

what happened?

i was waiting in the stream and now its postponed again

[rigid orchid]

looks like a fuel leak

hilariously they analyzed the monday launch and in retrospect they could have launched. they sensors were giving them bad data.

[copper flame]

Oh no!!!

So launch window for this afternoon is scrubbed???

[foggy crescent]

damn

[rigid orchid]

GONE

[scenic dragon]

Seems I'll have to keep updating that pin

[foggy crescent]

[tame thunder]

In an hour?!?!?

[scenic dragon]

Scrubby scrub

[tame thunder]

Don’t. Don’t do that. Don’t give me despair.

[rigid orchid]

scrubbed

[tame thunder]

Fuel leak?!? I hate science now.

[scenic dragon]

Too late. They had to scrub due to a fuel leak in the fuelling system

[tame thunder]

Yeah I quick googled lol. Still mad :/

[oblique mango]

"they spent how much on those rockets again?"

[ruby moth]

better to not launch then have them explode

[rigid orchid]

do both! just have a 2nd rocket lined up for the next window

and a 3rd and 4th....

[scenic dragon]

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-to-provide-artemis-i-launch-update-saturday

[ruby moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNpR8yPumJ4

update is live

[oblique mango]

I like this quote from Contact, by memory:

Rule number one of government spending: why build just one when you can build two for twice the price?

[tame thunder]

MID-OCTOBER?!?!?

Freaking VAB

[rigid orchid]

https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2022/09/03/nasa-to-stand-down-on-artemis-i-launch-attempts-in-early-september-reviewing-options/

To meet the requirement by the Eastern Range for the certification on the flight termination system, currently set at 25 days, NASA will need to roll the rocket and spacecraft back to the VAB before the next launch attempt to reset the system’s batteries. The flight termination system is required on all rockets to protect public safety.
ive never heard of the flight termination system

[copper flame]

Because NASA actually gives a shit about their rockets potentially crashing into a populated area Unlike China

[scenic dragon]

https://spacenews.com/nasa-to-repair-sls-liquid-hydrogen-leak-on-the-pad/

[tame thunder]

Worst. Reality show. Ever.

[foggy crescent]

launch date supposedly set for november 16

current launch window is nov 12 to nov 27. it was initially set for nov 14 but delayed to nov 16 due to tropical storm

thats a week from now

[fringe fjord]

hopefully the storm won't muck it up since they've decided to save a buck (so to speak) by leaving it on the pad

[foggy crescent]

lets hope

[scenic dragon]

https://spacenews.com/nasa-moving-ahead-with-nov-16-artemis-1-launch-attempt/

[foggy crescent]

almost there

[ruby moth]

Is there an exact time?

[scenic dragon]

The two hour launch window opens on <t:1668578640:F>, <t:1668578640:R>

[foggy crescent]

https://youtu.be/CMLD0Lp0JBg

this stream starts a bit sooner

[scenic dragon]

That's normal, countdowns are good for hype

[foggy crescent]

they always start sooner. countdown, talking about stuffs, interviews and so on

[sly ermine]

yeah gotta get the world who hasn't been paying attention up to speed on what's about to happen

[solar condor]

1:06 AM EST 🥹

[ruby moth]

11 pm.. who needs sleep anyway

[tawny radish]

as a colege student I think I've gone to bed before one maybe 10% of the time lmfao

[scenic dragon]

7:04 AM
As a college student:

[tawny radish]

yea that's way worse lmao

[foggy crescent]

8 am for me

just barely make it. good its not any earlier

[foggy crescent]

uuh

the stream has a countdown and its not 1:06 am est

thats 30 minutes sooner

[ruby moth]

hmm. could be they want people to join the stream early?

[foggy crescent]

i hope

otherwise ill miss it

[ruby moth]

im in the opposite boat, its getting late here

[foggy crescent]

damn

[sly ermine]

there's probably a scheduled hold in the count somewhere

like the one when it was paused at 6:40 for a long time earlier

ah yes, there's a hold at 10 min, which will be at least 30min long

but apparently they're likely not going to hit the start of the window, so probably longer

[sly ermine]

lol apparently some range radar assets are down due to a failed ethernet switch

[oblique mango]

meanwhile, in the stream chat as 150k (and rising) watchers wait… 🤦

[sly ermine]

it's expected to be fixed within the window still

i'm watchign https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvaz66nMEls

[rigid orchid]

T-10 mins

and holdinggg

over under on scrub?

[tawny radish]

it was intended to hold at t-10

[rigid orchid]

something up with a radar dish that's required to track

apparently they're replacing an ethernet switch there

[sly ermine]

it's also apparently part of activating the FTS system

[rigid orchid]

https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/

[rigid orchid]

they are extending the hold

"estimating how much work needs to be done"

[foggy crescent]

getting a strong deja vu

[oblique mango]

"slipping now indefinitely into the launch window" 😅

[rigid orchid]

ive seen a lotta launches get scrubbed

you get used to it

there's only 1 artemis 1 launch tho

[solar condor]

Teams have extended their planned 30-minute hold and mission managers are expected to target a new time for launch. The Eastern Range and launch teams have since resolved an issue that caused a loss of signal from a radar site and are currently in the process of conducting required tests to ensure communication and tracking of the rocket and spacecraft.

[rigid orchid]

I love how they explain what a perigee raise maneuver is and I immediately go "oh, yeah, like in Kerbal"

[rigid orchid]

"we are starting to track towards a T-0 close towards the top of the hour"

not clear which hour they mean

"currently no constrains to launch"

LETS GO

"about to conduct the readynes poll so we are getting close"

they're pulling up the launch chatter no

[bleak heron]

G O

[solar condor]

mission manager is taking a micro-nap

[bleak heron]

[rigid orchid]

im nervous

[foggy crescent]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-gif-19806504

[solar condor]

I'm suitably impressed by the guy holding the massive camera on his shoulder

must weigh 50 pounds

[rigid orchid]

lots of "GO FOR LAUNCH" in the mission control chatter

t-10 and counting

[oblique mango]

(nah, space-age composites )

[solar condor]

(well technically it's probably 90% lens)

[rigid orchid]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

T-5 minutes

[oblique mango]

we never had to sit through all this faffing about with systems on the Kerbal launch pad!

[rigid orchid]

t-1!!!

[oblique mango]

🆙

[solar condor]

that is a bonkers amount of thrust

[bleak heron]

🇺🇸

[solar condor]

and acceleration too

[keen rivet]

I miss metric units

But man, I got emotional. It may be late, and may be expensive, but it sure is beautiful.

[rigid orchid]

pretty

[bleak heron]

I love how they just open the fire hydrant when the engines go off

[scenic dragon]

It helps dampen the noise

[rigid orchid]

https://nitter.snopyta.org/bnjacobs/status/1592773134150926336

the delay between the launch and the noise is crazy

also dang that is bright

[oblique mango]

soon: three-second light round-trip: "hold my beer"

[rigid orchid]

some pics from the space coast

[fringe fjord]

that's a lotta candles

[rigid orchid]

and here's some pics from arty

woah, they're planning on landing on the permanently dark north pole of the moon?

arty is carrying 10 cube sats!!!

CUTE

[keen rivet]

TIL that rocket lab made the solar cells they're using

[tawny radish]

goin back to the moon

[fringe fjord]

@uncut quiver

[uncut quiver]

Truuuue (mobile discord really doesn’t show threads well initially).

The rocket seemed big.

[tame thunder]

I'm so flippin happy it finally launched

[keen elbow]

I can't wait to see the videos from around the moon taken from all those cameras mounted everywhere

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/sUns2a24ZcVSccQLm8eEWu2PF_3nZ5-zNysxap0voNk/https/pbs.twimg.com/media/FhwQuGpXoAACf9z.jpg?width=977&height=744

this thing has quite a lot of cams

[tame thunder]

I could Kerbal in some more cameras on the cab... Looks fantastic regardless

[keen elbow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvWtNx3VOUA almost near the moon !

[fringe fjord]

visible movement of the moon in the background

emerging from the back side of the moon in 3...2...

annnd no signal yet, must've been eaten by something on the far side of the moon

👀

[keen elbow]

Smol 8 billion talking blobs of meat

[fringe fjord]

https://www.reddit.com/gallery/z1f2dj

[keen elbow]

https://flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore flickr still exists, yo ;-) They post here first, everywhere else is copies of this

way much higher resolution/detail than reddit/twitter whatever

this is the funny part, those wing cameras are USB connected gopros ;-)

flying around the moon

I mean, why bother developing a 500000 camera for space missions where they can just send Jim to the local mart and buy 4 GoPros, glue them to the solar panels and call it a day

sorry, not 4, more... the cameras inside the capsule are also gopros

https://flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52510458454/in/album-72177720303788800/ if it works, it works !

[rigid orchid]

just need a blanket and some hot coco

[keen elbow]

something interesting in the description - DCIM\100GOPRO\GOPR1315

those cameras too a lot more pictures than currently known

I assume that most of them were during testing, but still... index is 1315, and only some 50 or so were posted so far

[rigid orchid]

what are they hiding

[solar condor]

They don't think it would be professional to release the pictures of our favorite kerbins making silly faces

[rigid orchid]

https://flickr.com/photos/nasa2explore/52512171562/

i like this one of the separation (for the lazy, happens at about :30)

the's something that's really eerie about all the dust floating into space in random directions. its feels ..... bad somehow

[keen elbow]

all done with springs

very nice

[rigid orchid]

also, what is that flashing light after the separating? what is the light bouncing off of?

[rigid orchid]

is it springs? i thought they were giant screws. lemme get a better picture

[keen elbow]

some of the cgt's are puffing

[rigid orchid]

springs, I think!

[keen elbow]

they double in length, were quite compressed before the separation

[solar condor]

You would be too after climbing a bajillion miles

[keen elbow]

probably correcting the orientation after the vibration shock of separation

and judging by the way the panel with the camera on it is moving, it was quite a jolt

this will be freekin' amazing when they first send it with people

all these modern cameras and high bandwith transmision

the show will be nothing like before... rockets haven't change much in 50 years, but the stuff carried by said rocked did, massively

[rigid orchid]

i hope they twitch stream it

[solar condor]

Modern camera tech is pretty insane compared to the past

[keen elbow]

yeah

I still can't believe myself that I have a 240 gram flying thing that takes 4K video from 200m up in the air...

and not only that, it costed only 350 euro

and probably costed only $100 to produce it in the first place

if I time travelled just 20 years into the past and showed it to a NASA researcher they would be shocked

high def digital cameras already existed in 2002, but they were bulky, expensive, and didn't take that great pictures... as for video, it advanced a lot more due to increase in computing power

[fringe fjord]

https://www.reddit.com/r/space/comments/za5q2e/remember_the_awesome_images_taken_by_the_optical/

[keen elbow]

awesome pics, saw them yesterday when they were posted

I can't imagine the stuff we'll see when they take their Nikons and iPhones on the moon, and yes, it will STILL work (just... no cell signal :P)

hopefully, just a few more years, and not another 10+

[lusty girder]

I only just found this thread today, lol (only after the successful reentry and splashdown)

[sly ermine]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21X5lGlDOfg well you haven't quite missed splashdown

[lusty girder]

hmm, where's the 4x physics timewarp button? 😛

kersplooosh

[bleak heron]

plonk

[lusty girder]

well, that looked successful

hooray, we didn't waste $11 billion on this!

[bleak heron]

more like it was an $11 billion proof of concept

we've got to spend another $11 billion to actually send the people :P

[lusty girder]

sure, but at least it was $11 billion proof rather than poof

[scenic dragon]

Eh, not like that capsule was reusable anyway...

[lusty girder]

wait, are we building a new capsule for each mission?

[lusty girder]

no, it does look like some reuse is intended

[scenic dragon]

Mega moon rocket 🚀