Then suffer your lack of iframes in bosses instead...
#Hollow Knight / Silksong
random orchid
hearty oak
I dont think the bosses dealing 2 damage is such a bad thing
being able to tank and spank in a metroidvania is kinda boring.
random orchid
I meant your 'suffer for being dropped into lava and respawned on top of an enemy"
hearty oak
I meant your 'suffer for being dropped into lava and respawned on top of an enem...
I was talking about what chicken said.
hearty oak
I crashed out after taking 2 contact damage on a stunned boss
welcome to contact damage. first time?
random orchid
Oh dear, that sucks Barbarossa
cloud belfry
I dont think the bosses dealing 2 damage is such a bad thing
I'm fine with bosses dealing 2 damage as well, it has no bearing on the situation I said however
Also, there's one specific boss where I dislike how they deal 2 points of contact damage, as they do a lot of teleporting around with no warning, causing you to run into them by accident whenever you try to go anywhere
hearty oak
thats just soul sanctum again.
random orchid
I still have no idea how to fight ||The Savage Beastfly I hear in Pilgrim's Rest||
It doesn't even look reachable on the map.
cloud belfry
||It's an absurdly stupidly hard to find secret, I can tell you if you want. It'll probably save you 3-4 hours of looking||
gentle swift
welcome to contact damage. first time?
When the boss falls on top of you, and you don't get enough Iframes to get out, it does suck
cloud belfry
Is it in the same zone at all
||Yes. You probably have the means to reach it||
cloud belfry
Yeah, the amount of secrets in Silksong is cool but you'll be bound to miss a lot of them. I spent a lot of time (probably a few hours total) in that area looking for that exact secret, as well as another thing for later
random orchid
Is it a ||Completely hidden hollow wall?||
cloud belfry
Is it a ||Completely hidden hollow wall?||
||Yep||
random orchid
It doesn't have phases
It is, however, a very punishing boss especially the fewer upgrades you have going into it
hearty oak
Phase 1 is no minions.
Phase 2 is 1 minion.
Phase 3 is 2 minions.
I’m hoping there’s not a stage 4.
cloud belfry
||I've had that boss summon 2 minions on the first minion-summon, so either it's a higher chance at low health, or I just got lucky with no minion summons earlier (though the 2 summons were still summoned pretty early)||
hearty oak
FINALLY! AHAHAHAH! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD LILLY!
||well that. uhhh. is an awful moveset.||
lofty carbon
||I was able to get good use out of it a few times, but it's definitely very situational||
hearty oak
also got ||reaper moveset. and found 3 different ways to the same damned city. tonight has been productive.||
hearty oak
||I was able to get good use out of it a few times, but it's definitely very sit...
||I want it to be good. I want it to be good so much. but its pogo is. its. oh god I cant. I just cant.||
tulip osprey
You do remember what you unlocked just before this one and which ability was needed to defeat him , right ? || Glide Mantle , the nearest bench for him is at the lady who made the mantle ||
hearty oak
||I mean yeah. But that’s not a reward for beating him. The dude just pops up and seals progression.||
tulip osprey
He only activates after you complete the quests and is only reachable again with that
hearty oak
I still would have liked some beads.
cloud belfry
||Fourth Chorus is basically the boss you have to fight to get the glide mantle||
hearty oak
||while true, I feel like there was a better way to go about it.||
||dunno quite what, but as it was it just felt weird.||
hot cedar
||get used to it||
fading cargo
At least it means that Gurm is almost at the next good farming spot
cloud belfry
Agreed
It's the only reason why I haven't done another playthrough yet, I really just don't want to go through that again. Especially not with the base health or spool length
hot cedar
||im going to crash out over Groal the Great||
||What the fuck do you mean I have to do an entire gauntlet fight with a boss that deals DOUBLE DAMAGE over a pit that STOPS ME FROM HEALING???||
i have never felt this level of sheer anger at a game and continued to play
hearty oak
Boss ||well you were annoying.||
hearty oak
||get used to it||
Ive been used to it. Im still gonna complain about it
hot cedar
Same
hot cedar
Boss ||well you were annoying.||
nice work
hearty oak
BLOODY FINALLY! (mobility)
wary topaz
I went back to Hollow Knight for a bit to try to get better at Pure Vessel, but I feel super sluggish when playing HK now.
random orchid
It's so different, isn't it
hearty oak
Mhm.
fading cargo
Gurm, I'm twice as far as you are zone wise, but i still don have it lol. How the hell are you dealing with those stupid challenge rooms ...
hearty oak
Gurm, I'm twice as far as you are zone wise, but i still don have it lol. How th...
you're gonna need to be more specific
theres a LOT of stupid challenge rooms
random orchid
Yeah
fading cargo
My answer is: yes 🙂
random orchid
And a challenge zone
fading cargo
All of them lol
But specifically ||Hunters March|| because thats where you got this i assume
hearty oak
so, hint, not there.
random orchid
Indeed
fading cargo
||crow nest|| pisses me off as well
random orchid
It's a different zone
hearty oak
I thought it was there too, but nope.
random orchid
||CRAAAAAAWWWW||
hearty oak
||crow nest|| pisses me off as well
||Crows nest was fun! all the bloons!||
random orchid
I loved that zone for the chaos and the fact it forced me to use tools
I am so glad I started using them lol
I need to swap mine around again...
hearty oak
Boss ||I hate this asshole. well and truly. this is my fourth time on phase 2.||
fading cargo
F*** ||ninja crows||
hearty oak
Boss ||I hate this asshole. well and truly. this is my fourth time on phase 2.||
||dudes white defender and the collecter on speed. its awful.||
random orchid
You know you can deflect things by hitting them, so you can pass through their models right
hearty oak
annnnd Im dead.
hearty oak
You know you can deflect things by hitting them, so you can pass through their m...
that doesnt help much. but yes Ive known.
fading cargo
Ohhh tools are really fun to use,
random orchid
Fair.
fading cargo
A throwing weapon against you you can hit and it stops being a danger
You boldly assume i am not old and have reflexes lol
hearty oak
its one of the reasons why I could never beat NKG.
its too much too fast.
mechanically I know what to do
random orchid
I wasn't specifically talking about your boss, which I found the fuuuuuuuunnn in.
I was talking about Raz's problem
random orchid
It's actually worse to do that in that fight
Since it doesn't do that for you
It just makes them go off trajectory and that's harder to deal with
hearty oak
random orchid
Do you use tools much Gurm
fading cargo
Will see how it goes when im back at home and try playing again after a week of break lol
random orchid
Read this at your own discretion. ||In the Hunter's March there's a hidden merchant you can now access for sure, that sells the Boomerang. If you angle it right you can easily get 7-8 hits in and it's typically able to ignore boss attacks that would knock it aside||
The specific spoiler in there helped me a lot with a good handful of bosses
I need to experiment with more tools, some of them are pr. good but I'm not sure of their benefit compared to like
Others
hearty oak
oh yeah I found that ages ago
random orchid
ah
random orchid
||Huh, I don't think I found that||
hearty oak
||forge lady sells it to you||
random orchid
||OHHH. The trap||
hearty oak
||its essentially the thing the hornet 2 uses in hollow knight. sadly we cant pogo off of it. but its still nice as a burst DPS option.||
random orchid
Kay I do know that one, I used it for a while as an alternative but swapped it when getting a different trinket
random orchid
||its essentially the thing the hornet 2 uses in hollow knight. sadly we cant po...
||Oh you can pogo off of it, it's just not useful for it.||
wary topaz
the issue is informational overload
Ah, You've also reached that part
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hearty oak
||Oh you can pogo off of it, it's just not useful for it.||
||ive literally tested it and it didn’t let me pogo.||
random orchid
Huh.
I swear it let me...
Maybe I tried and I mistook it since it does react when you hit it
hearty oak
Ill try again
yeah no it just
it doesnt pogo
okay Ive got a question
how am I.... 9 areas in and STILL dont have a single weapon upgrade?
am I just stupid?
wary topaz
I haven't found a way to refight Bosses, I kinda want to try to speedrun my way to where you are, just to attempt that Boss again
hearty oak
I love when my pogo sends me INTO a projectile I deflectedd that then kills me
wary topaz
I'm trying to remember the Moveset. I don't think Pogo is a Move you have any real opportunity to use, besides one Attack that I can think of
hearty oak
you have a number of chances to pogo
there are always chances to pogo
I continue to believe that people do not use the pogo enough. yes its different from HK but it is glorious.
wary topaz
I mean in the sense of good for dodging / opportunity to do damage (without taking it yourself) that you don't really have otherwise
I got more into the rhythm of dash -> Jump -> Slash -> Dash out
hearty oak
dash is junk. cant go through things.
wary topaz
Not safe for you Gurm
||Somehow it makes the Moveset feel clunkier the way it resets Horizontal Momentum||
||Like, I want to Dash -> Jump -> Doublejump, but the Doublejump makes it so I am back to base Walk Momentum||
hearty oak
annnnnd. dead.
wary topaz
GG!
hearty oak
dash is junk. cant go through things.
its acceptable as a repositioning tool but in combat its.... eugh.
I prefer to use tight movement rather than an unweildy dash unless the mechanic requires it
wary topaz
Maybe I enjoy the dash, because of my time playing Terraria, with Shield of Cthulhu, where it moves you in the horizontal direction, but you still keep your Vertical Momentum during the Dash.
hearty oak
oh see yes but terraria is a VERY different combat style
wary topaz
I am aware, but in a sense of "I am already used to the way it works, and am not starting from 0"
hearty oak
each combat system requires different concepts.
hot cedar
Not safe for you Gurm
||Somehow it makes the Moveset feel clunkier the way it re...
||for me, I get annoyed when I try gliding only to double jump||
hearty oak
bloody finally (upgrade)
random orchid
The main upgrades you get are Tool upgrades
like
there are more Tool damage upgrades than Nail damage upgrades
use them
hearty oak
Ill think about it
random orchid
then perish for the lack
though admittedly I haven't used my current toolset as much because I haven't enjoyed it as much
I got the ||Silkshot thingy|| and tried it, but it seems mostly inferior for damage considering it costs extra to use...
My main problem?
Craft metal
I need more of it
hearty oak
"perish for the lack"
green Ive been collecting them. I just. tools use an expendible resource.
stabbing the boss harder doesnt.
what if I need those shells later?
random orchid
Yes but you get the expendale resource back from every single kill and can store more for later
You really need to use them to not suffer
hearty oak
but what if I need them later?
later, some adventurer finds my corpse with 60 bead strands and 500 shards fully stocked on all tools
lofty carbon
I think the fact that there’s a cap on how many you can carry is meant to encourage you to use them, because think of all those shards lying on the ground going to waste
Oh the horror
hearty oak
I think the fact that there’s a cap on how many you can carry is meant to encour...
I hate the cap
it makes me want to use them less
I cant build a proper surplus
random orchid
You do have a proper surplus and get more of a surplus every time you upgrade cap. 😛
hearty oak
NYEH
random orchid
Fine.
hearty oak
leaning towards hording them forever
wary topaz
Gurm, I only really use them when I think "Okay, this Fight is annoying me, and is going to be a major pain if I don't use every tool at my disposal"
Trust me when I say this. Even if you SOMEHOW RUN OUT. You can build them up again pretty quick
random orchid
I use them to kill trash mobs on the road that would annoy me unless I have a boss to kill, then I save them
hearty oak
Trust me when I say this. Even if you SOMEHOW RUN OUT. You can build them up aga...
Ive run out on 4 occations
theres a reason I hoard
random orchid
oh dammit
I found a new ||crest, with all that implies, and now I regret spending my memory lockets wastefully...||
I guess I'll just have to use an older one of the same kind and deal with it that way...
wary topaz
||I have literally only used Memory Lockets on the Hunter Crest. ||
random orchid
|| there's good reason to use them on others. I just used mine a bit too early and found one I really want to try in full.||
random orchid
maaaan
||The courier missions are fun||
||Route planning and running like hell is super fun.||
Sadly I know have to fight an annoying boss who deals 3 damage per hit, which makes my life miserable
cyan lantern
wat? the only boss i know of that does 3 damage is || dearest grandmama || and that's only on one attack
random orchid
Maybe I miscounted. ||I'm fighting the fly cook and thought I had 3 HP but perished to the buttslam||
I could've sworn I had 3 when I got hit
hearty oak
Mechanic ||the NPCs will sing to the dreamneedlethingy. oh my god thats adorableeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee||
random orchid
||And enemies.||
hearty oak
neat
map question ||anyone know whats up with this room? its got an exit supposedly but all Ive found is bells. and not hte breakable kind.||
random orchid
||One way wall. you haven't found the rest of the area next to it yet.||
hearty oak
||And enemies.||
||oh wow that is WAY better htan the old HK version where you just hoped and prayed you didnt get your face smacked in.||
random orchid
||You still will, depending, but yes it's more usable.||
hearty oak
||I mean sure.||
random orchid
||Some enemies will still attack during it or will attack on hearing it||
hearty oak
dialogue spoiler ||moooooooooooooood.||
wary topaz
||How nice of Team Cherry to turn you into a Character 
||
hearty oak
loud mirage
wary topaz
Abyss Shriek
hearty oak
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955964454087061505/1418973883926708234/im...
I’m surprised that the hollow knight isn’t screetching out some radiance goop too.
wary topaz
Radiance isn't a Sound. Though I do suppose Radiance IS Screaming to be let out.
hot cedar
||i hate groal the great and the bilewater runback so god damn much i swear...||
hot cedar
||I finally did it
with CHEESE||
hearty oak
Area ||you navigate the mists. by playing the dream strings. to the butterflies. OF COURSE. HOW DIDN'T I FIGURE THAT OUT EARLIER. ITS COMPLETELY OBVIOUS.||
||positive news: found where the mist came from. its a giant organ. as in the instrument? I think?||
hearty oak
Boss ||well that fight was a weird mix of Hornet 1 and 2. wacky. kept screwing with me. shes dead now though.||
hearty oak
Boss ||well you were annoying.||
cutscene ||oh right htis game has cutscenes. ACT TWO TIME!||
||time to leave and come back from the OTHER entrance!||
hearty oak
area act2 ||oh wow the game REALLY gives you opposite ends to work with there. its fun to have both available though.||
hearty oak
||city. city big.||
lofty carbon
||extremely||
random orchid
I am very glad I found a bunch of memory lockets. Having additional slots helps a lot
hearty oak
@inner coral while she does state she lacks the crucial emptyness, and I do agree to that, it is still debated weather or not void was used within her creation.
a worm cannot screw a spider
thus
how tf was the kid made
and thus
the lore debate
inner coral
a worm cannot screw a spider
Maybe a worm can't, but we don't know the anatomy of a wyrm
hearty oak
......
inner coral
The y is an important distinction
hearty oak
we literally walked inside of the bastard.
it was a giant worm.
wyrm is a form of dragon
that was not a dragon
inner coral
we literally walked inside of the bastard.
it was a giant worm.
That was the cast off shell. Aka what it was before it arrived. We don't know what it had after it arrived
hearty oak
we know what it had after it arrived
it became the Pale King
was there some inbetweenie nonsense? not that we know of!
anywho. wyrm/king screwed a spider..... somehow
I blame the Void.
why do I blame the void? easy scapegoat with zero lore to refute me!
except that one line of dialogue.
hearty oak
yes dunking is how you create true void beings.
Hornet is not a true void being.
Im just blaming the void about how a wyrm/king had child with a spider.
hearty oak
..............
okaaaaaaaaaaaay then buddy.
thats
a productive statement right there.
Silk Song act 2 ||I found Sherma again. no idea how she got in. or is alive. but she is wonderful and living her best life.||
inner coral
||He||
hearty oak
||SHERMA IS A DUDE?!||
hot cedar
||Yes. I was surprised too||
hearty oak
||SHERMA YOU BEAUTIFUL BOY! I will protect you and burn this kingdom to the ground. you just enjoy your bath lil guy.||
hot cedar
||OH you found Sherma in the bathhouse?||
hearty oak
yea
hot cedar
||that scene is incredibly cute, i love his little splish-splashes||
hearty oak
||the splishy splash of a boy living his best life.||
hot cedar
||indeed||
cyan lantern
in addition to Hornet being || gay for Lace || she has || 3 mums. Herrah her biological mum, the Pale Queen who raised her, and Vespa (bee queen) who trained her ||
no void
just a lot of girl power
the first part might be headcanon
hot cedar
pfft
hot cedar
-shrug-
cyan lantern
The Void Did Nothing Wrong
hearty oak
The Void Did Nothing Wrong
Fine then I’ll blame Polar
hot cedar
honestly, all i know for certain is
||the pale king did get togather with herrah to create hornet as a form of treaty between hallownest and deepnest. Godly stuff and stuff||
||silksong is making me frown because there is an obvious shade in that cocoon that hornet leaves and for the life of me, i don't know why, unless its just a THING||
cyan lantern
||silksong is making me frown because there is an obvious shade in that cocoon t...
this is lore from the original HK; all bugs can leave shades or 'regrets'- it's one of the main ingredients of void
hot cedar
is it really?
hearty oak
Yup
hot cedar
i thought it was just a Vessel Specific thing
hearty oak
Yesnt
cyan lantern
the vessel specific thing is the shades being able to actually do things
hot cedar
-gestures to the abyss-
aah
okay, fair enough then
the last time I brushed up on HK lore proper was for creative writing
so it's been a while...
hearty oak
As far as I know, which I could be wrong, everything has a lil hint of void in them. Trickles.
Vessels and the knights had that juiced up to…. Crippling degrees.
hot cedar
dunked in it for the sake of the kingdom, to find an Empty Vessel
a shame it was doomed from the start
hearty oak
As far as I know, which I could be wrong, everything has a lil hint of void in t...
I’m talking fractional nonexistent percents btw.
There’s a reason it took
Millions of children getting chucked into the abyss
hearty oak
a shame it was doomed from the start
Ehhhh it worked out in the end.
cyan lantern
vessels didn't have it juiced up, they had existing void formed into something that resembled a soul
they're void homunculi
hearty oak
vessels didn't have it juiced up, they had existing void formed into something t...
I feel like that’s saying basically the same thing?
A soul that is more void than soul
Rather than more soul than void.
hot cedar
i wouldn't say homunculi cause that implies they were artificially created
cyan lantern
they have no will, no emotion, no voice
hearty oak
it's not a soul
If it looks like a soul. Acts like a soul. Can literally hold soul. It’s a soul.
hot cedar
messed up
cyan lantern
not when soul is a literal primordial force in that world
hearty oak
they have no will, no emotion, no voice
I’m fairly certain our little guy had will.
cyan lantern
hmm. there's a line in the game about 'no will to break'
as being one of the traits of vessels
hot cedar
yes, but thats from the PK talking about his perfect idealized vessel
hearty oak
not when soul is a literal primordial force in that world
The abyss is literally millions of children together forming an outer god adjacent force that ATE the radiance.
cyan lantern
and the MC of the game is 'called' back to hallownest, presumably by the ailing Hollow Knight
hot cedar
he's not describing what the vessels are, he's describing what he wants from a vessel
hearty oak
and the MC of the game is 'called' back to hallownest, presumably by the ailing ...
Reminder though. We were not the perfect vessel.
hot cedar
yes
cyan lantern
yup, i'm saying it wasn't necessarily the MC's will that brought him back to hallownest
hearty oak
yup, i'm saying it wasn't necessarily the MC's will that brought him back to hal...
I mean. That’s. There’s no proof either way?
cyan lantern
yup, but that was specifically by a dreamer, and for that specific purpose... although it is a bit odd how that syncs up with your lil guy doing things
hot cedar
i think the knight has a will, which is why they do the things they do
we can actively make choices
to make choices is to think
to think is to be
wary topaz
||SHERMA IS A DUDE?!||
GURM.
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||I suppose you just didn't pay attention to the use of Pronouns, but GURM.||
hearty oak
screw your puzzle, I HAVE POGO! (act 2 area)
wary topaz
screw your puzzle, I HAVE POGO! (act 2 area)
||Did you pogo up the entire wall?||
hearty oak
||Did you pogo up the entire wall?||
||that one and a few others. yeah.||
cloud belfry
screw your puzzle, I HAVE POGO! (act 2 area)
||Was that the room with the annoying bell thrower in an even more annoying location?||
cloud belfry
Well, most of the time you have solid ground to fight them on
hearty oak
not as of late
Ive had to deal with 3 seperate rooms of a similar description
so I dunno
probably?
that room specifically I think ||goes to the bath house?||
maybe?
lofty carbon
Got the speedrun achievement
hearty oak
Nice
lofty carbon
Honestly, the 100% speedrun achievement feels really attainable since I did my normal 100% playthrough in a little under 50 hours, and I should easily be able to shave 20 hours off of that at minimum
random orchid
there are so many areas I want to explore before progressing...
I gotta remember to go clear ||Bilewater|| before anything else, I finally fought the ||Cogwork Dancers||
who were
a surprisingly fight?
wary topaz
In my opinion that is a really fun fight. It's not THAT Hard, only taking me 3 Tries, but it's so much fun.
||The End is somehow super sad.||
random orchid
It took me a single try and I got hit... Twice.
I think the pacing of it was just easy for me to comprehend, plus I'm currently a Bastard who's probably overgeared for it
inner coral
It also helps that they're super telegraphed
random orchid
I'm also using the Tool Heavy crest with maxed tool damage
so I'm kind of brutal to enemies
inner coral
Yeah that'll do it
random orchid
I keep getting spoiled by memeeeesss
I physically can't play as long as I want so I have to do it in bursts
worldly oyster
yeah that's why I'm not saying more
worldly oyster
and I see people are already finding ways to completely break intended progression, interesting
hearty oak
Pogo is widely accepted progression breaking nightmare.
random orchid
The dev team accepted that if people want to be wildly unprepared for their adventures and rush ahead then they can. Or they're speedrunning one of the two
hearty oak
Could be both
I’ve seen many a speedrunner speedrun in a way that gets them way over their head and they have to figure it out.
random orchid
I'm just glad i've been obsessive about exploring everything else before advancing
hearty oak
It’s been helpful.
Although I still occasionally find things I probably shouldn’t
And then bash my head in
random orchid
especially trinkets and tools
I just got a new one that's super useful
So much damage... And so much easier to use than my previous toy
random orchid
Have you been to the ||Blasted Steps||and fought the ||Drill face bugs that shoot red drills around?||
hearty oak
I’ve personally been enjoying ||the Longpin. Does a full stab worth of damage and doesn’t care about parries or armour.||
hearty oak
Have you been to the ||Blasted Steps||and fought the ||Drill face bugs that shoo...
||yeah I know those assholes quite well.||
random orchid
||I got their drill||
hearty oak
I do not enjoy the grenades
I like ||spike mines and longpin.|| those two together have helped me though just about everything
random orchid
I found the former of those to die off and the latter lacked the DPS I needed. Though mostly that's because I ||Picked the crest that specializes in Tool use and its regular attacks are clunky||
hearty oak
||Architects crest is wacky. Not my personal choice.||
||I’ve enjoyed my time on Reaper, but I need more blueeeeeee.||
random orchid
||You have been using the lockets, yes?||
hearty oak
||yes my Reaper is maxed out. Ive still got 3 spare though in case I find something I like better ||
random orchid
||mmm right. I'll just say there's merit in using them even on crests you don't like.||
hearty oak
||yeah Ran told me when I asked. Ive been using the extras beyond the core 3 when I get them on Wanderer and some others.||
random orchid
mmm
hearty oak
||Im really hoping I find something nicer but..... I think I might be stuck with Reaper.... which would annoy me because as much as its nice I dont even like it all that much.||
||like is it too much to ask for big sweepy blade profiles? is that too much? I just want so much reach even gods cry. Architect was close and then it TOOK AWAY MY SILK MOVE.||
random orchid
||You have... What. Hunter, Reaper, Wanderer, Beast and Architect?||
hearty oak
that.... sounds correct
random orchid
||Lol, lmao, you'll never use Architect with your Too Good To Use Syndrome||
hearty oak
||like is it too much to ask for big sweepy blade profiles? is that too much? I ...
||close in the range department, and it made me feel like Gurren Lagann. but then well. no silk move.||
random orchid
||There's two-three more if I remember right but I haven't been able to unlock them yet||
hearty oak
fair nuff
random orchid
||I barely ever used the silk moves tbh, the tools feel way more natural||
||So it was an easy choice||
hearty oak
||Lol, lmao, you'll never use Architect with your Too Good To Use Syndrome||
||hey I use long pin on occation! mostly because its dirt cheap. and anything I kill typically drops enough shards to refund the uses.||
hearty oak
||I barely ever used the silk moves tbh, the tools feel way more natural||
||entirely fair. Ive just really enjoyed the big aoe "HIGALEEEEE" move. uhhhh. big AOE of blending death. very useful vs adds.||
random orchid
||It is but that's what I have the nades for||
||And it doesn't reduce my healing capability||
hearty oak
fair nuff.
random orchid
I almost never used spells much in HK base, anyhow
Even when I had mastered Godhome to the point where I was literally walking into enemies to kill them faster
It just broke my flow too much
hearty oak
in HK I didnt because it was too many to remember, but with SiSo its just, a single button, and thats easy to remember how to use.
random orchid
I used it to dodge more than kill tbh
wary topaz
YouTube recommended this to me, I recommend it to you.
||https://youtu.be/Cu_zNGSdv4s?si=UJ6A044PcFOP6eUD||
hearty oak
well aint that lovely
hearty oak
Far Fields Act 2 ||this lava gauntlet is bullshit.||
random orchid
oh shit
I didn't realize, but the game autosaves after getting certain major items
so you can rollback to get specific achievements if you need to???
That's so cool
wary topaz
Far Fields Act 2 ||this lava gauntlet is bullshit.||
#1410340163225124974 message
?
random orchid
Also found my best Rosary grind spot. Fast and easy to memorize.
Too bad I still need so goddamn many
inner coral
Far Fields Act 2 ||this lava gauntlet is bullshit.||
||Dw it's just practice||
hearty oak
hot cedar
||oh i found that too||
hearty oak
||Widow, but harder||
random orchid
It seems to have one of the best silk skills in the game behind it. Also bleh. I need to travel more of the map and it's getting more difficult to cross it
Quests in every direction, but I'm slowly narrowing down the areas I need to clear yet while also losing my mind over how many things I surely missed
random orchid
hot cedar
oml
hearty oak
https://www.tumblr.com/mollyjames/795529879854645248
I mean. That’s literally how the brain learns though.
wary topaz
Like, I literally took a weeklong break from Silksong after getting stuck on a Boss, and literally beat it within 3 Tries once I came back to try again. I can guarantee, if I kept trying when I was originally struggling, it would have at least taken another 10 tries.
If you're calm, it's simply much easier to process things, and act accordingly, than if you're annoyed with the game
...I suddenly feel like I would be better at studying for things, if I were to look at the Material more than like a week before an exam. Because I wouldn't be super stressed and anxious.
Brain? Can we please start studying for things BEFORE those things hit?
hearty oak
...I suddenly feel like I would be better at studying for things, if I were to l...
No. You must silk and song.
shrewd kettle
|| puppies! ||
random orchid
slowly clearing the map
slowly
I think I'm almost at the point where I only have ||The citadel|| remaining
I do feel bad I've been looking stuff up but
I don't feel like I'd want to do a second run of this game
It'd be painful
wary topaz
I am showing my Map, so pretty big Spoilers.
I am not annoyed at all. Nope.
random orchid
There's one closer than that.
But you ||Have to risk being infected by the muck grubs fairly regularly|| for it
wary topaz
Where the sad Smile is?
random orchid
No, that's a trap.
wary topaz
Because I fell for that one.
random orchid
If you want it, ||There's a section where you have to deal with a bunch of trapped hallways with the buggers. You want to go far bottom right in that room||
||It's going to require using the hookshot line to escape getting grubbed, but if you manage it it cuts out half of that.||
I ended up taking your route tho, so I wouldn't get Grubbed. It wasn't too bad.
hearty oak
|| puppies! ||
||PUPPIESSSS!!!!!||
wary topaz
:3
hearty oak
Awwwwww
wary topaz
OH MY GOD. ||You can Summon the Bell Beast at Stag Stations by playing the Needolin.||
wary topaz
Okay hmmm.
||Got a Second Ending, but...|| ||Somehow it still feels weirdly bad. ||
lofty carbon
Oh, is it what I think it is?
wary topaz
I would presume it is what you think it is.
random orchid
I am at the final steps of act 2, and then I can do Things.
MANY things
So many tings I gotta do including a shitty ending I'm going to hate trying to get
wary topaz
With the Going Back Mechanic, can you jump foreward again too?
random orchid
No idea!
If it's like it was in HK it should be fine to just
headbutt the thing and be done with it
And then you'll respawn at a previous bench and can continue in that save
I think I've stopped having things to spend rosaries on, so I might just do the foolish thing..
random orchid
I...
I beat the game?
That was it?
... Welp. Time to keep looking for stuff.
Now this'll be more difficult.
POGO TACTICSSSS
gentle swift
Which pogo?
random orchid
||Trying for the hidden ending for having the Cursed Crest and then beating GM Silk||
||I have found most of her early attack patterns can't hit you if you pogo off her head||
wary topaz
||Trying for the hidden ending for having the Cursed Crest and then beating GM S...
||Makes sense that there would be one||
random orchid
||Consistently hitting phase 2||
Conistently gertting hit once each time tho
bleh
There, got it
apparently in that state doing regular strikes is considerably more consistent damage than using pogos or the like, despite pogos and charge strikes hitting twice
Swapping to that cleared the stages easily
hot cedar
That was it?
||Was it Grandmama?||
hot cedar
||Trying for the hidden ending for having the Cursed Crest and then beating GM S...
||hahahaha yeah that one is still a toughie though||
||i wish you the best of luck, getting that one was a trial of patience for me||
random orchid
Already cleared it
It wasn't actually that difficult once I set my mind to it and figured out the most effective damage
and yes, it was the boss you were thinking of. I had... Way more trouble on earlier bosses, but that's fine.
hot cedar
yeah
||grandmama silk is really not hard. it's like last judge and cogwork dancers where the difficulty is actually just in your positioning skills rather than the actual attacks||
random orchid
Kay. Got to the next part of the game. Sadly, haaaaands.
I made good progress tho so I'm happy with jt
hearty oak
this. was not. worth it. (farfields)
shrewd kettle
hearty oak
nice
random orchid
Oh I'm so stupid
the fucking
rooms with all the shells in the wall
you can keep attacking them to get shell fragments
so you can restock safely
wary topaz
Green. How long have you been playing without knowing that? (To be fair, it's agonizingly slow)
random orchid
I am halfway through Act 3
at 87% completion and 35 hours
Now the painful part
do I go looking for everything
random orchid
Yeah alright I will. I found a decent-ish site that I can cheat for it, so I'll be able to hunt everything down now that everything is available.
I 100%'d HK, I can do it again for Silksong.
random orchid
Clown defeated, it is now time to continue my rampant nonsense in completing Silksong 100%. And god knows I would not have found some of this shit otherwise...
random orchid
I feel a little bad that there's so many NPC dialogues I missed or can't find now. Mrgh.
random orchid
arrghjhh
Getting my ass beat yb ||Skarrsinger||
I am not good at dealing with all of the add phases beforehand, and they keep deflecting my tools so it's not as effective for me to use it
There's not even a bench proper so I gotta deal with nonsense
inner coral
Might I recommend a change in tool then?
random orchid
I do know some tools that would work better, but unfortunately I'd have to cross half the zone for a bench. Might do it if I can't clear it tonight.
inner coral
There should be a bench just nearby
random orchid
Not for that one, at least not with an annoying runup in either direction.
I'll give it another shot tonight.
inner coral
Just checked and there's one like 2 feet away, if you'd like to know where :>
inner coral
Ofc :>
random orchid
I've had to change my entire build to even try to get close to this boss clear...
I'm getting tilteeeeddd
GOT IT
3 hours
But I got it and now I can move on and get the final few upgrades before fucking around with everything else that needs doing for 100%
I've given up on the hunter's journal now that I know it's not required
loud mirage
hearty oak
little ghost you fool
wary topaz
Well, Time to reset.
random orchid
At the final boss, but sadly I have work. Darn.
wary topaz
I keep seeing spoilers on YouTube...
random orchid
yeah
It's worse now because the game has been out 'enough' and the algorithm has always been a dick about it, same with the uploaders
wary topaz
I've basically just ||left the Abyss for the first time, and am still in Deep Docks.||
wary topaz
Yeah there's a bit left
"a bit" ||I'm essentially right at the Start of Act 3 still, am I not?||
random orchid
||Yes but depending on how much you cleared during acts 1 and 2, you probably don't have much left besides cleanup iirc||
||Plus with the Beastling Call it's absurdly fast to get around the map||
though apparently I skipped several boss fights by accident because I'm in "I want to be done" mode. Sad.
wary topaz
though apparently I skipped several boss fights by accident because I'm in "I wa...
I know I apparently skipped ||a Fight against Shakra (Thanks, YouTube)||
random orchid
rip
Youtube is a bastard in that way
The only unfortunate part, if I fail to complete this final fight before my Shards run out, I'm going to have to either backtrack for more or swap my style again...
wary topaz
The only unfortunate part, if I fail to complete this final fight before my Shar...
I actually need to check how many Shard Bundles I have
Never used any
random orchid
You cap out at 20
If you're full up and have 20 shard bundles you can fully top off from zero twice before you're dead out
wary topaz
Pretty sure I have maxed Tool Capacity and Damage
I know for a fact I am still missing 2 Masks though, but have my entire map filled out so far
random orchid
One thing I do find annoying, they really only put the combat helping tools on Blue tool slots
wary topaz
||I did find a Mask Shard in the Abyss||
random orchid
Yellow tool slots are mostly misc support and useless for a boss fight
random orchid
||I did find a Mask Shard in the Abyss||
||Nice. One of the harder ones to find.||
wary topaz
Yellow tool slots are mostly misc support and useless for a boss fight
Dice?
random orchid
Two slots for combat useful items
I have 3
technically 3 if you find knockback annoying
And I'll admit I forgot about the Barbed Bracelet but I'd never use it because it effectively makes your healthbar two hits
and I am NOT good enough for that
wary topaz
Honestly, I barely swap out my Tools
random orchid
I've been swapping them fairy consistently throughout the game, tbh
I have a plan for another swap when I get back home to make my life easier
wary topaz
Also, I kept with Hunters Crest the entire game.
random orchid
Mix of ||Architect, Reaper and Hunter||
if I run out of tool slots I'll go for one you haven't found yet
err, shell shards
wary topaz
Also, YouTube has spoiled me on one Synergy, but for which I don't know if it's even pheasable if you die more than twice
||Lifeblood Phial + Architect Crest||
random orchid
... Ehhh?
I can see it.
There's some other tips you can use with it. I might actually use that instead...
random orchid
I know of a few.
Though the reason why I hesitate is mostly because I know that I use all of my tools in combat, and don't really have a tool to dunk...
wary topaz
honestly, I mainly like to use my Tools with Pollip Pouch, to get damage when I think it's too scary to walk up and attack, but I still feel like I need to get damage in
random orchid
I also don't tend to live long enough to actually run out of tools in a single fight
since I'm judicious with both needle strikes and tool strikes.
wary topaz
GG
hearty oak
nice
tulip osprey
wary topaz
Honestly, I'm taking a bit of a Break because
||3 Back to Back Arenas full of annoying Enemies, both Flying and Grounded, and with Arena Layout that makes ground Space either a commodity, or Nonexistant, in a Gauntlet where if you die in any of them, you start over and have to do them all again||, is kind of a lot.
random orchid
... Wait which? I never saw that many back to back
wary topaz
||Coral Tower||
random orchid
||Oh that one. ... You can attack the coral to break it I think, if that helps?||
wary topaz
BOMBS??
random orchid
You didn't find those then
wary topaz
I mean, I might have, but if I did, then I certainly have not remembered it.
I need to check
But not right now
random orchid
I used the Tool spam so it worked out pretty well
Even if I didn't nremember right, using those is helpful
Keep things at range
inner coral
Honestly, I'm taking a bit of a Break because
||3 Back to Back Arenas full of an...
At least you can heal mid air...
hearty oak
I do love standing perfectly still in the air to get nailed by projectiles doing up to 3 damage at once and completely knocking me out of the heal.
Who knew I’d ever miss how baulders shell worked.
wary topaz
I do love using Warding Bell, so at least if I get hur out of my Heal, I am now down more HP than I was before.
hearty oak
I just. I wish being hit while in bell didn’t cancel the heal.
random orchid
as if I ever actually used the active reload much
hearty oak
Exactly
random orchid
I needed to heal so much more than that because I suck at dodging with Hornet
It's a lot harder than with the Knight, especially since it's never dodges at right angles
hearty oak
I’ve found hornet far easier to dodge with.
Because you actually have mobility
Although. I do miss shade cloak giving me actual Iframes.
random orchid
It's too much mobility. :U
I made it work but also I used the clunkiest Crest for actual combat.
hearty oak
Green.
You need to work on your fundamentals.
random orchid
So that probably didn't help
The fundamentals were actually pretty worthless for my build I just needed more tools and occasional pokes
And like 20 heals
hearty oak
…….
wary topaz
Green, go back to Hunters Crest
wary topaz
Yes
random orchid
I got 100% by game standards I am not doing mini games anymore
I am also glad I didn't need to 100% the hunter's journal and everything else
wary topaz
btw, where do I get the thing to see my Completion Percentage? Is it in a new Story Area, that I am going to find with thurough searching, or do I need to go back for it somewhere?
random orchid
This one's way nicer for that
hearty oak
I am also glad I didn't need to 100% the hunter's journal and everything else
But….. but the hunters journal is essential communal suffering bonding!
random orchid
btw, where do I get the thing to see my Completion Percentage? Is it in a new St...
If you want to know, ||It must be Act 3, and you need to visit the Abyss. There's hidden stuff there for you and one of them unlocks completion %||
I did like 90% of it and then realized I wasn't having fun anymore, so I decided against it
wary topaz
I only did the Hunters Journal entries that I got naturally, or that were convenient
random orchid
From the sounds of it, you've missed it and will have to go back later for what you're looking for, Xsor
Btw Tacks are very useful, highly suggest thise
wary topaz
From the sounds of it, you've missed it and will have to go back later for what ...
Wait, what, ||I thought I explored everything in that Area. HOW DO I EVEN GET BACK THERE. ||
I mean, I presume I will ||need to go back for the final Boss, but other than that I mean||
random orchid
||you definitely did not. As for going back I think you have to wait until you're ready for the final boss ||
inner coral
||You can go back without being ready, I think the bell is fixed when you leave||
fading cargo
Well i think finally its time to get back to SiSo
inner coral
Good luck
latent violet
Just wanna say
(Act II, SoK) ||Conch Cutter our beloved. It's so fun to drill through a boss with them...||
||It's quickly become one of our favorite tools, alongside the Cogflies and Silkshot||
random orchid
||Conch cutter was on my team for AGES. May I suggest tacks?||
latent violet
||Conch cutter was on my team for AGES. May I suggest tacks?||
||Also a good choiche in a lot of ways! But we're already full on tools with Cogflies, Ancient Silkshot, and Conch Cutter.||
||Architects my beloved.||
proven spear
“Voyage across and beneath the salt-stricken seas in this thrilling expansion, free for all players”
random orchid
.... The MINES CALL FOR ME
I hope that it doesn't require a fresh save file
Otherwise I'm waiting for the whole set of expansions and then doing it all at once
hearty oak
I hope that it doesn't require a fresh save file
it shouldnt. from what it looks like its gonna be the same thing as what happened with HK, in that its a new zone, new bosses, some new gear, and a fun little romp.
the only thing that might be problematic is silk songs acts and that you would be jumping into a final act versions of those zones but ehhhh probaly fine.
fleet turtle
been playing through silksong, started back on christmas evening
not super far obviously,
gotten to ||clearing out bellhart from its haunting||
got put through three different runback sequences with The Birds, The Sticks, and The Bells yesterday, so i was pretty exhausted and had to finish that little arc today
fleet turtle
been a week since that. new approach to beating bosses and stuff and i've gotten significantly deeper now since then
it's very appreciable the artistic differences between og HK and silksong
hearty oak
yeah its nice
fleet turtle
i suppose this is what you get for 7 years of improvement and development, but you can sort of tell a silksong area vs a HK area
more varied environment, more detailed parts, a color palette that is not predominantly blue
fleet turtle
the game is great but two sticking points that kind of stand out to me as someone who hasn't ever played a metroidvania before
- contact damage. not really related to metroidvania but i think contact damage in this sort of game is really quite annoying especially for more nimble enemies.
- the state of hidden walls in this game
i've been streaming in a vc and i've had the lucky mentorship of a friend who's already played through the game to point out random things of note to me. a couple hidden walls and areas are really quite egregious
perhaps if i had played HK sometime between now and the preceding 7 years before silksong came out i would've been trained to keep smacking walls everywhere, but some of them are basically or entirely invisible to an observer
i went through a pretty rough sequence of Deeper Docks (bombs), The Worst Bossfight in the Game (quest), The Worst Gauntlet in the Game (right after), and Silent Hill. partly of my own volition though the last part was my mentor trying to guide me to a couple goodies for other crests
for the silent hill part ||i have no idea how you're supposed to know that the needolin helps guide you when you play it near the flies in the area, since you're not told at all||
hearty oak
||I just pressed random ass buttons trying to interact with the fireflies.||
inner coral
Yeah, silksong was pretty obviously made with the intent of "hk players need a bigger challenge", and a lot of the base world building (eg hidden walls) relies on the same secret-finding exploration of the first game
fleet turtle
sometimes i'm definitely feeling like i'm paying for the sins of my forefathers in a sense
hearty oak
you are, and I am sorry.
fleet turtle
mostly through pogo platforming pre-reaper's crest
not really sure on the spoiler status on things like that actually
like area names or whatever i'm not so sure as to what's up lock or not
inner coral
for the silent hill part ||i have no idea how you're supposed to know that the n...
||only justification I can think of for it is that the banshees also make noise as a primary form of alert||
hearty oak
Silksong is very much so an adendum to the mechanics you were meant to have learned and mastered in HK, in a new form and with a difficulty spike.
its smoother than it possibly could have been, but the game is absolutely going in expecting HK experience and there are going to be weapons grade bad times for those like you who do not have such experience.
that doesnt forgive it, thats not meant to defend it, it is merely that yeah. the game expects things it probably shouldnt.
inner coral
If absolute radiance in hk was the tutorial, silksong's the unit test
fleet turtle
yeah i skipped over HK because i've been super spoiled on it for a while and didn't quite want to play through 'baby's first metroidvania' (according to my friends)
inner coral
I mean, even if you know everything there is to know, it can still be a fun experience to play through it at least once or twice
fleet turtle
this is a pretty huge diversion from my typical haunt of PvE shooters so it is mostly my first go at this type of game
hearty oak
they are right in some ways and wrong in others.
I'd say HK is more your "nearly perfected standardized metroidvania" a gold standard if you will.
at the time it was revolutionary because of relatively low market saturation, afterwards well. if you've played a post HK metroidvania you've played something close enough to HK mechanically that a lot of skills are transferable.
hearty oak
this is a pretty huge diversion from my typical haunt of PvE shooters so it is m...
I truly wish you luck and hope you enjoy.
fleet turtle
i mean i have been enjoying it pretty well, it just has its rough spots sometimes when i go through things really quickly in succession
it also helps to have someone watching and sharing the experience, which is what my friend has been doing
hearty oak
thats nice.
my biggest hell with SiSo so far was the god damned lava arena for A SINGLE. MASK. SHARD.
everything else has been.... well I wouldn't say great but interesting and mostly enjoyable.
fleet turtle
yes that's what i referred to for the worst boss fights and gauntlet in the game
i went through that ||optional gated area|| in deep docks, got bombed to hell, then immediately went on what i originally intended of doing that bossfight
and then after that i was kinda on a quest for more slots for my crests since i've been puttering around on reaper's only for a while now
which led me to the spooky area, which genuinely did kind of scare and stress me out until i was informed that i could tool the problem to death
hearty oak
I do enjoy being able to stab the fear away
fleet turtle
i was playing matador with reaper's crest pogos until i could just use spine shards on the problem
spine shards in general solve a lot of problems
hearty oak
they really do
fleet turtle
the most substantial difference really between my mentor-friend and me is currently their preference of crest for bossfights (wanderer's) and how little they used tools compared to me
maybe i use them a little too much (expended like 700 on my first go at ||beastfly||) but that's why you can buy bundles of them anyway
hearty oak
ehhhh I mean.
tools are a tool
if the game lets you do it, I say do what you find fun.
I like stabbing things and hoarding shards, so thats what I typically do.
I know Green REALLY REALLY liked tools and went super into using them.
fleet turtle
i mean i am partly getting those memory lockets because i unlocked the crest that is literally only tools
i probably won't use it a whole lot because running out is pretty easy + reaper's is really great for spacing, but i'm at least interested.
hearty oak
I like reapers but I've yet to find a crest I really honestly enjoy, and Im thinking Im probably just not gonna find one.
TLDR: Im looking for a bonk crest. beeeeeg damage. stupidly slow swings. the cult of bonk from the souls series.
mayhaps Ill find one in the docks expansion. who knows!
fleet turtle
i mean as far as i'm aware reaper's really the best you'll get
HK/SiSo's weird damage system also has all crests doing the exact same amount of damage each swing, so it's moreso a matter of how many you can hit
hearty oak
oh sure reaper is close but it. it lacks that weight.
I dunno
I've always been stupidly picky about movesets.
fleet turtle
it's really interesting
inner coral
There's one that's like a bear claw. Hornet isn't exactly good at slow tho
fleet turtle
i'm kind of afraid of having pretty wonky muscle memory after swapping them but it's kind of just something i'll have to live with
hearty oak
There's one that's like a bear claw. Hornet isn't exactly good at *slow* tho
||beast crest is awesome, but it aint for me.||
inner coral
Fair enough
fleet turtle
oh sure reaper is close but it. it lacks that weight.
yeah it's kind of moreso the 'consistency' crest
hearty oak
yeah.
if I had to guess quite honestly Ill probably eventually end up with wanderer as my crest of choice.
because I mean
have you seen the DPS it can do?
fleet turtle
disparagingly, the crutch crest, but it's hard to separate from it after having such a not-annoying time fighting enemies and platforming with it
yeah i mean i feel like wanderer's kind of intended for that sort of deal
inner coral
||Wanderer's is a reference and return to the HK moveset||
hearty oak
disparagingly, the crutch crest, but it's hard to separate from it after having ...
bah. "crutch crest" pshaw.
people should use what they want to and what they find fun. Im tired of all this "meta this, meta that" I have a meta called Im having fun and growing in skill as I learn to play. harumph.
inner coral
shaw, you say?
hearty oak
geh tuh perhaps?
fleet turtle
that's sort of just my general assessment of it since you literally trade overall DPS for way better range/anti-air
not that someone else has stated that except for me
hearty oak
I mean reaper is just. really really good at just. bein there and doin stuff.
fleet turtle
||Wanderer's is a reference and return to the HK moveset||
but yeah that was pretty obvious to me
inner coral
Reaper is the heal crest
hearty oak
wait what crest are you refering to boring?
hearty oak
yea.
anywho, use the crests you like, grow as a person, don't listen to the seething static that is the internet. the usuals.
inner coral
wanderer being a ||HK-reference type|| crest
||Hunter = Hornet||
||Wanderer = Knight||
||Reaper = Heal||
||Beast = Rage||
||Architect = Tools||
||Shaman = Spells||
||Witch = Thorns||
Crests and comparisons
hearty oak
||Hunter = Hornet||
||Wanderer = Knight||
||Reaper = Heal||
||Beast = Rage||
|...
||reaper = spells too. you can use spells with those gains you know. you dont just have to use the thread for healing. reaper is about flexibility and timing. or something.||
||sure its not the DEDICATED spells crest, but those sweet sweet thread gains.||
inner coral
anywho, use the crests you like, grow as a person, don't listen to the seething ...
The thing is tho, there is a "statistically best" option. It's entirely fair to play the way you want, but some (a lot of) people want to play to optimize and share builds. It's like how technically spells in hk give you the fastest kill times even though you could also build for "heal damage only"
inner coral
||reaper = spells too. you can use spells with those gains you know. you dont ju...
Very fair
hearty oak
The thing is tho, there *is* a "statistically best" option. It's entirely fair t...
I mean, statistically the best only matters if you can actually play and function at that level.
and in my experience a LOT of the people who chain themselves to meta options and meta choices..... cant.
there are those in these types of games who can take the optimal setup and OBLITERATE with it, there are also those I know of and have seen who follow those exact steps and instead of learning or improving blame the build.
the reason I encourage people to go away from optimization is not because optimization is bad, I love optimization, but it is more about finding what works for you, on an individual level, and figuring out the tools and tricks you know how to interact with so that you can interact with your environment in a more fundamental way.
inner coral
there are those in these types of games who can take the optimal setup and OBLIT...
Whenever I see those people, they're complaining regardless of what they're using, because they don't put in the time to develop any muscle memory or skill and just expect the game to hand them an end credits screen on a silver platter
hearty oak
oh yeah no sure. some people just. don't expect to encounter hardship. in a game whos entire premise is "hey this game is kinda hard and beating stuff will be rewarding". glares at certain Elden Ring players
sorry me and the Elden Ring community have..... disagreements.
Im an old cranky bastard who learned through pain and torment via the old souls games. and a lot of newer players who joined in with Elden Ring.... didnt.
inner coral
Entirely understandable
cloud belfry
for the silent hill part ||i have no idea how you're supposed to know that the n...
How I figured it out was ||when you go through the first room, the flies fly into the exit when you reach them. I noticed this, and tried to look for flies in the rooms after, but they didn't fly anywhere, so I used the hidden interactions tool and they flew towards an exit||
late tusk
inner coral
Nice
wary topaz
Noibat and Noivern