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dawn bone
ancient nacelle
One of the strongest leveled swords in the game
dawn bone
Which one is that
ancient nacelle
Goldbrand, I think!
Chillrend might be dark brotherhood
But yeah I think the level scaling maxes at 30 for Goldbrand
Double check that for sure
ember pecan
Chillrend is the drunken father in Chorrol
dawn bone
I believe all scaling caps out at 25+
ancient nacelle
Oh, the goblin wave defense quest?
dawn bone
Or at least that’s the claim
dawn bone
Anyways I intend for my main weapon to just have soul trap on it
Main melee*
Gotta get the most out of this Star
ancient nacelle
I wonder if there are any good short swords
rugged meteor
I believe all scaling caps out at 25+
Most scaling caps at 25. A select few, all of which are Daedric Artifacts, cap at 30.
dawn bone
I wonder if there are any good short swords
Graverobber wuest
ancient nacelle
Since agility governs daggers and shortswords
dawn bone
*Most* scaling caps at 25. A select few, all of which are Daedric Artifacts, cap...
Ahhh
ancient nacelle
Graverobber wuest
That’s the one involving the merchant in the imperial city, right?
dawn bone
That’s the one involving the merchant in the imperial city, right?
Yup
Very nice short sword
ancient nacelle
Definitely saving that quest for later
dawn bone
And his buddy has level adjusted gear. Got an ebony longsword from murdering him.
ancient nacelle
Dude has a good item in his shop but it’s expensive
If someone unfamiliar with Oblivion looked in this chat right now
They would see lunatics
dawn bone
Nah
That’s just video games in general
Speaking of people don’t seem to get upset when I break into their homes?
Like they follow me but I don’t get a bounty.
dawn bone
weird. I guess Im just built different.
rugged meteor
That's only if they see you enter, I believe.
dawn bone
I mean everyone questsions when [insert race Susan is playing] strolls on in uninvited but when an argonian does it its just a "boa tarde amigo" moment
ember pecan
"goblin jim's cave"
rugged meteor
The actual crime, in Cyrodiil, is the act of entering unwanted. If no one sees the crime, then you cannot legally be punished for it.
ancient nacelle
I mean everyone questsions when [insert race Susan is playing] strolls on in uni...
I am, in point of fact, playing an Argonian
dawn bone
The actual crime, in Cyrodiil, is the act of entering unwanted. If no one sees t...
so essentially, if I am just somewhere, but nobody saw how I got there, nobody cares.
dawn bone
I am, in point of fact, playing an Argonian
oh. well. there goes my logic.
hold on I have a solution
ancient nacelle
"goblin jim's cave"
Eyyyy you found that place. I sprint by it last night but didn’t have the gear durability to explore
dawn bone
activates scroll of "flight"
rugged meteor
so essentially, if I am just somewhere, but nobody saw how I got there, nobody c...
Unless it's an area that is separately restricted, such as specific areas of the Imperial Guard Barracks.
ancient nacelle
Yes
rugged meteor
Yes.
ancient nacelle
You burn
rugged meteor
You take damage when in the sun as a vampire.
dawn bone
@ember pecan https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Vampirism
there is all of vampirism. enjoy.
ancient nacelle
Go talk to the count of skingrad, he has a good quest related to vampirism
rugged meteor
You can prevent the damage via high enough Fire Resistance, though.
Which if you stay a vampire you'll want anyway because you also take increased damage from fire.
ancient nacelle
Wait. Does sign of the Atronach work too?
dawn bone
I dont believe its considered a spell
rugged meteor
Direct Magic Resist does not work. It must specifically be Fire Resist.
ancient nacelle
damn, that would have been absolutely cheesy and awesome
dawn bone
honestly at this point I really shouldn't expect mudcrabs to respect my social distancing but after the horrors Ive commited against htem I really thought they'd be smarter.
eh. darwin awards for everyone.
ancient nacelle
Okay, y'all have fun grinding and cheesing and playing. I'm off to therapy for traumatic recall of past life events
rugged meteor
honestly at this point I really shouldn't expect mudcrabs to respect my social d...
Only one mudcrab in existence is that smart, and they live on Vvardenfell and are a merchant.
dawn bone
Only one mudcrab in existence is that smart, and they live on Vvardenfell and ar...
and he's my bestest friend.
he buys so much shit from me, and sells me SKOOOOOOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
or no sorry he sold Suujama.
which is basically just skooma by another name.
rugged meteor
It's skooma that's legal because it's alcohol rather than crack cocaine.
dawn bone
In other news if you haven’t seen yet: ebony gear looks stupid pretty
I just found a ring of reflect damage 33%
That’s
Kinda insane
No?
Ahhhh it’s a unique
Yuuup that’s never coming off
rugged meteor
It's not actually unique unique.
It's just unique in the sense of it's the only one that can hit 33%.
You can find random ones in random loot containers set to spawn jewelry which can go up to 15% based on world scaling.
dawn bone
Right yes.
Named Item woulda been a better term
Well that’s the skeleton key. Bye bye all other lock picks.
I’m still gonna play the minigame because I ENJOY IT
rugged meteor
Really the only truly unique pieces of equipment, are the Boots of Waterwalking, and Mehrune's Razor, as no other non-player-enchanted item can have those effects. And if you exclude even player-enchanted items, it drops to only Mehrune's Razor.
dawn bone
Hero I literally have a random amulet of water walking
rugged meteor
Funky. The only in-world spawn in OG was the unique Boots.
ember pecan
i just have potions of waterwalking
fuck clothing
i'm getting turnt on potions to become jesus
rugged meteor
Clothing is useful for enchanted equipment because it can't break.
ember pecan
next up your blood into wine bitch
dawn bone
I found this thing randomly. It’s been with me since post tutorial.
rugged meteor
If it has no Armor Value, it has no durability to worry about.
rugged meteor
I found this thing randomly. It’s been with me since post tutorial.
Again, funky. I wasn't thinking you were lying, just stating that in OG, only the Boots of Waterwalking had it as an effect for stuff findable in-world.
dawn bone
Gotcha
rugged meteor
Water Walking in OG was exclusively the Boots of Waterwalking, player-enchants, and Spells/Potions.
dawn bone
As much as I like the necklace I have been considering vaulting it cause I’ve got water hopping now, and am an Argonian.
Water is kinda my bud
rugged meteor
Waterbreathing was a bit more varied in OG, but the only reliable method besides "Play Argonian" and "Spells/Potions" was Fingleam.
dawn bone
Yeah I’ll put it in my chest of treasures. Good ol chest
rugged meteor
Fingleam being a unique Helmet near an island off the coast near Anvil which gives Waterbreathing AND Nighteye.
rugged meteor
Ebony is a metal.
Honestly, it's the biggest thing that skyrim dropped, was Ebony being treated as the proper metal that it is.
Ebony used to have just as much variety as the other rare metals.
rugged meteor
I believe canonically that's due to Ebony being even rarer than normal in those regions.
rugged meteor
So it's mostly reserved for weapons and armor over there.
dawn bone
Well now that I’ve done a single quest, BACK TO GRINDING!
Huh. Neat. The /12 thing in the spell screen is gone.
Rad.
Or not
rugged meteor
Maybe it's dependent on the School the spell is going to be?
Is it showing up for schools you haven't gotten to 100 yet, and not showing up for those you have gotten to 100?
wanton hill
i would say likely
once you reach 100 you no longer have complexity limit
just magicka cost
dawn bone
Is it showing up for schools you haven't gotten to 100 yet, and not showing up f...
Nope! Its just not appearing on soul trap
dawn bone
once you reach 100 you no longer have complexity limit
ITS NOT A COMPLEXITY LIMIT
ITS JUST
MANA
COST
Not even /12
wanton hill
okay okay
dawn bone
It’s so dumb
wanton hill
well i'll just say there used to be complexity limitation
rugged meteor
Not even /12
I'd sure hope it isn't a value divided by 12 factorial. That'd be a very very tiny number that is well below 1. :P
dawn bone
I'd sure hope it isn't a value divided by 12 factorial. That'd be a very very ti...
I fixed it you goober your joke is dead
wanton hill
is there a way to increase spell effectiveness above 100%?
dawn bone
is there a way to increase spell effectiveness above 100%?
Weakness stacking.
But if you mean within the menu? No.
dawn bone
uh... please tell me this is a joke
As far as I can tell, that’s a safe perfectly fine crash.
That’s an intermediary program that had a problem, not sys32 itself
At least
That’s what Google tells me
wanton hill
thats reasuring
dawn bone
Further googling seems to state it’s (potentially) a memory leak or a ram issue
In slightly less scary news: today’s grinding spot is this troll cave with a bed in it.
Bed because it’s faster than waiting
Fewer imputs
rugged meteor
The Count of Skingrad, in the big castle, is involved in a few quests.
rugged meteor
Don't worry about it.
Just think of it like Magelight, but fancy.
ancient nacelle
Nirnroot man is in Skingrad
the potions of exploration are pretty good
that's what he creates when you bring him nirnroot
10 for weak version, 20 more for a stronger version, so on and so forth
rugged meteor
Advised to find all the nirnroot and only then bring it to him, for strongest possible version.
ancient nacelle
That's an adventure all over the game sorta thing
I wonder if there's a Nirnroot speedrun
Probably
rugged meteor
I mean, there is one for the Red Nirnroots in Blackreach in Skyrim, so there's probably one for the ones in Oblivion which are also fixed spawns.
rugged meteor
They aren't worth the effort.
The only thing worthwhile down there is the extra dragon fight if you shout at the big ball.
wanton hill
there is a dwagon in blackreach?
rugged meteor
Yeah. If you shout at the big glowing ball, you summon a dragon.
dawn bone
Only INT, Personality, and luck left.
Ehehehehe
I do wonder if I’ll ever even max out luck….. I’m not even sure if there are enough skill levels….
dawn bone
there is a max level in oblivion?
Yesnt.
Once you run out of skills, that’s your max level.
wanton hill
that sucks
dawn bone
Good news: in a normal playthrough you ARENT REACHING THAT
for me to 100 5 skills, 3 of which were majors, it has taken me essentially 55 hours of STRAIGHT. GRINDING.
And I’m level 28.
Oblivions whole MSQ is what? 50? 60 hours?
Googled it: roughly 30 hours.
All sidequests is apparently around 85 hours
Long and short, you will not reach max level unless you GUN for it. And that is going to be a lot of combat skills. Fists, blades, bow, “blunt”, block, destruction, light AND heavy armour.
ancient nacelle
I do wonder if I’ll ever even max out luck….. I’m not even sure if there are eno...
just keep getting arrested over and over to lower your skills
dawn bone
God help you with the speech craft grind
dawn bone
just keep getting arrested over and over to lower your skills
…… I forgot that was an option.
shut cradle
I imagine you'd run out of content before leveling opportunity
dawn bone
Do those skill levels give XP tho?
dawn bone
I imagine you'd run out of content before leveling opportunity
Long before.
ancient nacelle
I do not know, I assume so
dawn bone
Hmmmm
“For each day you serve in jail, one of the following skills will be decreased, up to a maximum of ten skill decreases: Armorer, Athletics, Blade, Block, Blunt, Hand to Hand, Heavy Armor, Alchemy, Alteration (listed in order of decreasing likelihood). The selected skill will be lowered by one point, unless there is only 1 point in that skill.”
Hmmmmmm
Maybeeeee?????
wanton hill
i hope the guard are infinite spawning fodder
because that will require a lot of murder
dawn bone
i hope the guard are infinite spawning fodder
They should be but uhhhh…. They’re tough.
Like okay, endgame Skyrim you could mow down near endless squads of guards. In oblivion…. Let’s just say the average guard is quite… potent.
There’s a reason they hope you resist.
dawn bone
Also true
wanton hill
they NEED IT
dawn bone
I might give it to them as a test at the end of it all.
ancient nacelle
good luck
wanton hill
i mean yeah, but nothing resist a well crafted spell
dawn bone
They stop mattering so much after a while.
wanton hill
i need to do the asura quest and buy soul trap
dawn bone
I’ve got soul trap but no Asura
I must GRINDDDD
I did get the giga lock pick. Which boosts your BASE lock picking by 40. Which is insane.
wanton hill
the skelly key?
dawn bone
I’m hoping I can level security with it still on me but I might have to ditch if the levels stop coming.
ancient nacelle
if your security skill is "green" then it's being boosted by something, yes
dawn bone
It isn’t. But when I remove the pick I lose 40 levels of security. Also. I know for a fact I haven’t unlocked nearly enough stuff to have 87 security.
Also: that’s one of the picks known effects.
rugged meteor
I’ve got soul trap but no Asura
Azura*
dawn bone
Azura*
Okay this time, autocorrect stabbed me in the back rather than it being my own fault
And that’s Myst 100
Yippeeeeee
rugged meteor
And that’s Myst 100
The most useless spell school.
dawn bone
There’s also rings
But
The spell is nice when trying to save slots
Oh also also
Clairvoyance
rugged meteor
Exists in Skyrim still, as not a Mysticism spell, and even in Oblivion is terrible.
rugged meteor
Conjuration.
dawn bone
That’s myst buddy
rugged meteor
In Skyrim it's Conj, where it makes sense being, since it involves souls.
dawn bone
Skyrim LITERALLY DOESNT HAVE MYST
rugged meteor
And Conj is the School of Soul Stuff.
dawn bone
SKYRIM IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE COMPARISON
rugged meteor
Also, the Sijiic Order are dumb. And guess what Spell School they focus on. That's right, Mysticism.
dawn bone
I’ve found the most useless skill in oblivion: conjuration.
Unless there’s soul trap shenanigans like morrowind
Then it’s maybe useful
rugged meteor
Unless they skyrimified that, then yes. It wasn't until Skyrim that you could no longer Soul Trap your own summons.
dawn bone
Oh holy crap nevermind Conj busted
ancient nacelle
Conjuration is most fun as a challenge run class
Playing the epitome of a mage that only summons monsters, debuffs enemies and buffs/heals allies
rugged meteor
Though Skyrim still had Soul Trap shenanigans, in that you could cast Soul Trap on a corpse to still gain Conj XP.
ancient nacelle
You could also telekinesis an object and then fast travel across the map for mad exp, right?
In Skyrim I mean
rugged meteor
Yes. It'd treat the object as though you'd Telekinesis'd it the entire distance of the fast travel.
ancient nacelle
Now there’s a way to power level haha
rugged meteor
And since Telekinesis awards XP based on distance the object you use it on is moved around...
Another one is casting Magelight up the mountain next to the front gate of Solitude.
As that spell awards XP based on how much it lights up.
dawn bone
Neat
rugged meteor
And it lights stuff up as it flies, and only stops flying when it hits a surface.
dawn bone
Wait is that why my flashbang spell didn’t give good xp?
rugged meteor
So if you aim correctly, you can light up the entire mountain with each pass of a Magelight and gain mad XP.
rugged meteor
Wait is that why my flashbang spell didn’t give good xp?
If it involves using Magelight, yes. Magelight has always granted XP based on the amount it lights up, in entries where Spells don't just give a flat 1 per cast regardless.
dawn bone
This thing lives in my spell list now
rugged meteor
100 ft radius should be giving a ton. Are you making sure to use it in very dark locations?
dawn bone
I was casting it in a well lit room
rugged meteor
That'd be why.
dawn bone
Because I didn’t understand
rugged meteor
Magelight only gives good XP if it actually lights things up.
In well lit rooms, it will only light up tiny patches.
dawn bone
Yeahhhh
dawn bone
In the right place this time
So
The daedra got pissed with me
And sent an asshole with a paralyze sword
rugged meteor
Yeah, that tends to happen when you attack your own summons.
dawn bone
Yeahhh
rugged meteor
Anyway, mismatch your armor for more both Armor XPs.
dawn bone
Ehhhh I’ll deal with it later
rugged meteor
You can wear up to half and half.
dawn bone
I’m trying to hard focus one skill at a time
Incidental leveling (see armour in this instance) while nice, I’m trying to train destruction
ancient nacelle
And sent an asshole with a paralyze sword
Just don't summon a dremora lmao
Summon a daedroth
or the spider lady
rugged meteor
Or a Greater Zombie.
ancient nacelle
Daedroth is grand soul I think
It's grand or greater
You could also make a ton of black soul gems and go kill bandits
mer souls are automatically grand
rugged meteor
Men souls as well.
ancient nacelle
black souls gems are very particular in creation in this game
I couldn't remember if Mer encompassed all or not, honestly
shut cradle
mer is the elves
rugged meteor
Need to do a whole ass ritual for a very limited number of them every few ingame days.
Yeah, Mer is just the Elves, and also Orcs.
ancient nacelle
Orcs are basically cursed elves, right?
shut cradle
bos-mer, orisi-mer, alt-mer, etc
ancient nacelle
I can't remember orc lore
rugged meteor
Men is everything else, except Argonians.
Argonians are Beastfolk controlled by an extradimensional Alien tree called the Hist.
ancient nacelle
Need to do a whole ass ritual for a very limited number of them every few ingame...
honestly worth it though
Khajiit are controlled by the moon(s), to be fair
shut cradle
are.. argonians a hivemind
shut cradle
what kind of contro
rugged meteor
The Hist can change their physiology whenever it wants.
It's how they've explained various model changes throughout the years for Argonians.
shut cradle
ooh, alright
rugged meteor
And yes, the Hist is sapient.
rugged meteor
Orcs are basically cursed elves, right?
Yes.
They're an elven subrace that was cursed by Boethiah at some point in the past, when Boethiah had a spat with Malacath and won.
Boethiah stole some of Malacath's powers, which cursed both Malacath and his chosen people the Orsimer, which turned the latter into what they are today.
obtuse frost
ahh, I missed this. nothing like sneaking up and casting "overcharged joybuzzer" on random bandits, daedra, and so on.
ancient nacelle
overcharged wahtnow
obtuse frost
on-touch shock spell
whatever your most convenient casting level may be at the time
usually edgar's sells a good starter for about 110 gold
just, y'know, pack a fire one for undead foes.
dawn bone
Just don't summon a dremora lmao
I’ve switched to scamps.
Cause. I realized. The destruction spell I’m using is so garbage. It can’t even kill my own scamp.
That, or summon scaling is a lot better than it used to be
Given my power attacks with a longsword still insta gib the gremlin, I think my spell sucks.
rugged meteor
Given how magic be, it is probably that your spell sucks.
Weapon damage is modified by Strength (Or Agility if Bow).
Magic damage is flat however much is listed on the spell, unless the foe has Weakness to the magic damage type, or Weakness to Magic, in which case it's the amount listed on the spell, plus a % of that again based on how much Weakness is applied.
ancient rover
trail kindle
i caved 😅
ancient rover
If it was cheaper idd also be melting all life and time into it currently probably
trail kindle
I took the 1 eur gamepass subscription
upper garden
from 59 to 78 in 10 m
What do the Nerevarine , Hero of Kavatch and the Dragonborn have in common ?
They all are weirdos
I probably make the people of Hackdirt feel like normal people
dawn bone
All I know is Kavatch has been dealing with the oblivion crisis for 122 days now.
They’ll be fiiiiinnnneeeeeeee
ancient nacelle
dawn bone
https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-wizard-gang-spell-peace-gif-7333...
I literally made a spell called “strip”
It’s damage to armour and weapon 100 on self.
I am training my repair.
ancient rover
I took the 1 eur gamepass subscription
i mean i would maybe too but i like owning the games i have not just as a subscription
trail kindle
Fair point, i have some more friends that are waiting till they will be able to get it on steam for achievements and such 😄
upper garden
Soooo
Hackdirt
Stayed the night at the inn as I had to level up
expected attack
go into underground , do quest and leave
But see no more Hackdirt people the entire time
come back later
Still no one else
Sneak into someones cellar
Nothing
seconds later "OUTSIDER"
and then more "OUTSIDER"
Turn around
I won
barely
upper garden
I dont know
They all appeared at the same time
it was 5 times the same dude
okay that made me giggle
Sack of grains that is visibly having a hole in the side
Open
1 Leek
ancient rover
lel
upper garden
okay this is weird
after I have interacted with somthing while sneaking I cant perform attack unless I do a power attack
then it works again...
Only with my melee weapons so far
upper garden
yes
dawn bone
Holy crap trolls hurt
Kalperklan ones at least
Oh I see. These gremlins are grand souls. That would do it.
upper garden
Dear god
Security is a joke to level
Set one pin
spam set tumbler on the same pin
you get experience for it
2m from journey to master
ember pecan
i prefer levelling naturally
but that one i may do
being a vampire in oblivion as well
not. the. best. choice
dawn bone
i prefer levelling naturally
Leveling naturally for some skills is a near impossibility….
rugged meteor
not. the. best. choice
Welcome to Pre-Dawnguard DLC vampires. They're all dogshit.
dawn bone
Welcome to Pre-Dawnguard DLC vampires. They're all dogshit.
Oi hold on. Morrowind had decent vamps!
Although MWs dlc race was werewolves wasn’t it….
rugged meteor
Oi hold on. Morrowind had decent vamps!
Only in that you had multiple types so you could get different bonuses.
The base vampirism itself was still dogshit.
upper garden
The only skills that I leveled with grind are :
Sneak , Arco , Security
Rest will be done by playing
dawn bone
The skills I leveled with grind so far is: yes.
No wait I haven’t grinded blunt or hand to hand yet.
And I only have 10 100s so far
rugged meteor
No wait I haven’t grinded blunt or hand to hand yet.
To be fair, those ones have no way to grind besides actual combat.
Or trainers.
dawn bone
To be fair, those ones have no way to grind besides actual combat.
summons daedric lord
Are you sure about that.
upper garden
if you hit it its still combat
rugged meteor
You can get a free permanent Hand-to-Hand boost from some people punching each other in the training yards near the Arena, though, just as a heads up.
You just stand around watching them punch each other for a bit, and absorb the knowledge.
There's also a chest near them with a guaranteed spawn of some gauntlets that boost Hand-to-hand.
dawn bone
if you hit it its still combat
Okay but it’s far more grindable than hunting for random roaming bandits.
dawn bone
You just stand around watching them punch each other for a bit, and absorb the k...
Neat.
dawn bone
Also question:
Who here levels luck ?
Me. Because I ran out of other stats
Well no there’s still personality left to hit 100 but the point stands.
rugged meteor
Personality doesn't matter when you have a set of "Set Target Disposition to 100" and "Set Self Speechcraft and Mercantile to 100" spells.
dawn bone
See that’s boring
Also I’m trying to not clutter my spell list
Instead just be me: at level 38.
With 100s across the board, 70 in personality, and like 60 something in luck.
rugged meteor
Instead just be me: at level 38.
How many times in jail to reduce your skills to grind even more?
dawn bone
How many times in jail to reduce your skills to grind even more?
None
I’ve maxed out every school of magic
Running. Jumping. Repair. Sneak.
That’s 10 right?
I know I maxed out 10 skills
rugged meteor
Isn't it 7 schools of magic?
rugged meteor
Alteration
rugged meteor
wicked ether
I love that a lot of the bugs still exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvNCoujE56M
rugged meteor
I love that a lot of the bugs still exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvNCo...
This one's actually new to the remaster.
dawn bone
I love that a lot of the bugs still exist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvNCo...
Where is that. I SENSE XP THAT IS IN NEED OF CLAIMING
DELICIOUS ONE HANDED AND LIGHT ARMOUR XP
rugged meteor
Where is that. I SENSE XP THAT IS IN NEED OF CLAIMING
There's a quest to protect two brothers who are reclaiming a farm from monsters.
One of the stages has you fight off a horde of goblins.
In the remaster, a bug was introduced that makes it an actual horde.
dawn bone
Who’s to say it’s a bug? Sounds intended to me!
rugged meteor
The issue with the quest is both brothers need to stay alive.
The goblins are balanced under the assumption of only about 10 of them showing up.
ancient nacelle
Well, both don't need to stay alive, but you only get Chillrend if you keep both alive
rugged meteor
Which means that both need to stay alive. Because what's the point of doing a quest that can give unqiue loot if you fail to get the state where it gives unique loot?
dawn bone
Exactly
Except that one time in Remnant where there was other unique loot for losing in a specific way
rugged meteor
Except that one time in Remnant where there was other unique loot for losing in ...
If either result gives unique loot, then sure.
But if only fully succeeding gives the unique loot, then what's the point of not fully succeeding?
ancient nacelle
you talking about getting pulled through the sewer grate by the creature?
dawn bone
you talking about getting pulled through the sewer grate by the creature?
I’m talking in Remnant 1 when you had to let specific NPCs die in sidequests to get specific skills.
Okay BUYING BOAR MEAT, crashes my game
Why? I dunno.
Maybe the god of boars is pissed at me
rugged meteor
Maybe the god of boars is pissed at me
Probably.
You almost certainly have done something to annoy Hircine.
ancient nacelle
I’m talking in Remnant 1 when you had to let specific NPCs die in sidequests to ...
I am not familiar with this, but if it was part of a dlc area, that would be why. I only played base game for both Remnant 1 and 2
dawn bone
I am not familiar with this, but if it was part of a dlc area, that would be why...
Nope. Base game. 2 sisters. If you saved both you got a reward, and if either died you got a unique reward (based on dead sister) and if BOTH died you got a unique.
ancient nacelle
I really don't remember that
rugged meteor
Nope. Base game. 2 sisters. If you saved both you got a reward, and if either di...
Which is the only sort of case where it's reasonable to not just do the quest perfectly, since you still get unique stuff regardless.
rugged meteor
Whereas with the two brothers in Oblivion, you only get the unique reward of Chillrend if both survive.
dawn bone
And thus, why wouldn’t you reset til they survive
rugged meteor
You get a big fat "You get NOTHING! Good DAY, sir!" if either or both of the brothers die (in terms of unique rewards. You still get paid some gold at the end.)
rugged meteor
The cheesy way or legit way?
dawn bone
I stood in front of a locked door pressing A for 5 minutes
rugged meteor
So the cheesy way.
obtuse frost
well, we canonically become sheo after all this, so why not embrace the cheese?
rugged meteor
I just killed an archer. She had SIXTEEN TYPES OF ARROWS ON HER
To be prepared for any foe.
dawn bone
Well she faced me and I walked slowly encumbered towards her until she killed herself with reflected damage
obtuse frost
she should've just drawn her dagger and charged ya, then. her loss
dawn bone
she should've just drawn her dagger and charged ya, then. her loss
Of the 2 choices, running away was correct. I have a daedric sword and I hunger for souls.
My soul trap is touch based
Cause ranged versions get too pricy.
dawn bone
A base game spell. Of beyond spell crafting. And you need more mana than is baseline POSSIBLE TO CAST IT.
Yeah I’ll eventually fortify up to it being possible but still
That’s just cruel.
And yes. I have maxed out destruction.
rugged meteor
A base game spell. Of beyond spell crafting. And you need more mana than is base...
It scales based on the level you obtain it.
obtuse frost
aoe touch spell? wouldn't it just hit you too, though?
rugged meteor
It's a target at range of up to 10 ft.
obtuse frost
reminds me of "the boopinator" otherwise known as "paralysis long time+ really low damage of every element for the same time"
rugged meteor
It's basically Electric Firebolt, 10 ft range.
obtuse frost
bleh. gimme a good touch range spell anyday
also, the raw dopamine of hearing the bow's sneak attack sound effect. tapdances on the nostalgia real good.
dawn bone
Wow enchanting in this game sucks. God damn. Only…. What. 60 good attempts at random enchants default? And for the rest you just get crumminess? I know in MW enchanting was more than a lil busted but I forgot how far they backpedaled from that.
dawn bone
aoe touch spell? wouldn't it just hit you too, though?
That says target.
dawn bone
Wow enchanting in this game sucks. God damn. Only…. What. 60 good attempts at ra...
No seriously unless they changed it so that oblivion portals endlessly reopen….
Like.
Unless you know what’s coming and save scum you get 60 random decent enchantments and then that’s it.
upper garden
Surf n' Turf anybody ?
Got fresh ingredients
upper garden
Finally got me the weapon I wanted but its soon gonna be outclassed...
Just for shiny sake now
Great for opening fights in the Arena and then switch to Chillrend
And after playing a while
They could have done so much better which is also why I wont play this Oblivion on stream or anything but just for myself
So many QoL things that were done in Skyrim could have enhanced this remaster
Better Favourite menu
Interaction for recharging enchanted gear ( in Skyrim you interact with the gear and not the Soulgem)
and clearer visibilty of item conditions from the menu
Thats why IMO Skyblivion is still 100% worth the wait and will be from my gut feeling the superior Oblivion recreation
trail kindle
So far oblivion remaster is like i remember the original feeling xD
trail kindle
tho i would have wished for quite a lot less bugs 😭 been spawner inside of rocks, doors, and softlocked
upper garden
but thats where it ends
trail kindle
the weirdest bug was one where it did not let me load game but started deleting save files instead
lost multiple save files thatway 😄
not much time lost tho and enjoying it so far
upper garden
Sometimes I would like to know the NPCs thoughts
-> Go to Arena and bet on blue homeboys
-> Go upstairs and after 5m IRL of them fighting ( dont know why so long but okay) yellow team wins
-> Announcer says if you bet on yellow go to the man in front to collect your winnings
-> Dude sees me running from view spot past him down to combatants area
Also I strongly believe someone in the early era of the empire was a japanese who got isekai'ed into there
First Blademaster was named Gaiden Shinji
The Blades are obviously weeb flavoured
trail kindle
If there are gates to oblivion - no reason to not have gates to other places, like earth 😄
upper garden
Here is the thing
there is this weird theory that Nirn, the plane/planet Elder Scrolls takes place in, is the distant aftermath of Fallout
Or maybe even parallel planes of existance
upper garden
Also I think Argonian poison resist is a bit bugged
Or diseases are not all listed under effects
A few times now I had my Willpower and Intelligence drained after fighting goblins
I know they carry those poisons as I keep selling them
but those shouldnt work on an Argonian
ancient rover
ive been told the flame guys now wear sandals instead of boots like they did in the original
is this true ?
ember pecan
I have acquired honse but.. honse is slower than me
my honse died
upper garden
Okay honse has advantage
it doesnt care about my carry weight
Also merchants are bugged or they work fundamentally different than Morrowind and Skyrim
I just made 16k gold selling potions to a merchant
The 600 coins he has seem only to matter if I go above that when selling
never did his reserve go down
upper garden
Well
ember pecan
then you can increase it by disposition
cinder plinth
never did his reserve go down
That’s how oblivion has always been. The money they show is their maximum for any one item/stack of items but they have unlimited gold. It really doesn’t matter for the most part unless selling high end late game stuff or if you a stealing and only have access to the low cash fences
It’s unchanged from the original
upper garden
wtf
Come out of random mine near Chorrol
"You have stolen from the Mages Guild you are suspended"
The fu
WHEN
I have nothing on me
I never stole from the guild
the heck
I DONT EVEN HAVE A BOUNTY
okay ???????!?
I reloaded to when I just entered the mine and exited - which was when I got the message -
and now nothing
the hell
ancient nacelle
makes me want to reinstall starfield
I know you’re a big starfield fan, but what is it about oblivion that makes you want to play more starfield?
ember pecan
I know you’re a big starfield fan, but what is it about oblivion that makes you ...
the wandering and exploration
very much that hook and look
ancient nacelle
Okay. To each their own.
cinder plinth
what were the most recent quests you did?
upper garden
I am currently doing Mage quest for Chorrol
cinder plinth
ah
upper garden
and before that another mage guild errand
cinder plinth
I was gonna say I know the thieves and I think dark brotherhood has quests that can be stealing from the mages guild.
but yeah idk
upper garden
And weirdly enough there was now an hour between the first time it popped up and this time
cinder plinth
that is weird
upper garden
and this time it popped up AFTER I looted a bandit warmage
THOSE BASTARDS KILLED MY HORSE
ancient nacelle
Just do the suspension quest. They’re aren’t that hard. Usually just asking for some ingredients
It’s a weird glitch
But best to roll with it
upper garden
WHAT
WHEN
Yeah no I am whipping out the console for this
20 Dragon Tongue and 20 Red Wort
I have not even seen them
Status restored
ember pecan
Adrian Decanius is the gray fox
upper garden
ive been told the flame guys now wear sandals instead of boots like they did in ...
They were and are ladies not dudes and yes sandals
upper garden
In Morrowind they were dudes
ancient rover
drink soup
upper garden
fortify magicka , intelligence
trail kindle
sippin some fine "tea"
trail kindle
Oblivion gate spit me out inside a rock
yea i experienced the same with the first one i went into
it was on top of a hill
upper garden
trail kindle
this was the first time i was thankful for fast travel
upper garden
This is my 1st person view now
upper garden
full close ?
trail kindle
but save game when you in 3rd person
then full close
then go in load menu
and load from there - not from continue
and should be back to normal
helped me - found it on reddit
trail kindle
it would be funny to play game like that if aiming would work properly, but it got all wonky 😄
upper garden
okay
Fingers of the mountain is hilariously broken
The magicka scaling is just unreasonable
Casual 1198
5 times my max mana
rugged meteor
Finger of the Mountain's level scaling is indeed very jank.
dawn bone
A base game spell. Of beyond spell crafting. And you need more mana than is base...
@upper garden this is the level 30 version with maxed out destruction. I am fairly certain I will NEVER be able to cast this without a buffing loop.
Reminder that spell schools significantly reduce mana costs
rugged meteor
<@322887867519074304> this is the level 30 version with maxed out destruction. I...
Fortify Destruction effects cast on yourself either through temporary spells, or permanent enchants on equipment, I believe will continue to lower the cost further.
dawn bone
Fortify Destruction effects cast on yourself either through temporary spells, or...
Wikis say skills do nothing past 100
rugged meteor
For the intial scalings when doing stuff like crafting a spell, yes.
I vaguely remember Destruction 101+ still lowering costs after the crafting, though.
rugged meteor
At the very least, Fortify Willpower will definitely let you cast it, and you really should be fortifying that willpower anyway as a Caster regardless of needing to just to cast FotM.
rugged meteor
Point stands.
dawn bone
Wouldn’t be enough and I’m not a mage
You can only fortify up to 10 points per gear unless you save scum oblivion portals
Enchanting in this game is a JOKE.
10 points per gear if I bothered to wear a worse chest plate is….. 100 mana. Still over 400 away from casting finger.
160 if I bothered to replace my jewelry. I won’t though. Because it’s objectively better than anything I can physically make
A grand soul version of fortify magic is 24 points per item. Which makes it better than int.
It’s still not enough.
Welcome to oblivion enchanting! It’s all garbage and meaningless!!!!!
Literally. Don’t bother.
upper garden
The fingers scaling is bugged
Just so you know
If you craft the same spell equivalent yourself it is castable
Also the game is now writing cruel jokes on its own
I lost another horse
while going away from it to gather nightshade and mandrake near.... Fort Irony
ha ha game
next fort while I trut along my now horseless journey
Fort... Nomore
ancient nacelle
Literally. Don’t bother.
Sigil Stone Enchanting is where it’s at honestly
dawn bone
If you craft the same spell equivalent yourself it is castable
You can’t craft a 200 point shock spell.
You can craft a 100 sure. But not 200.
Spell crafting caps at 100 spell potency.
Unless you’re using mods. If you are using mods, then that’s lovely.
dawn bone
Sigil Stone Enchanting is where it’s at honestly
And you can only ever get 60 of them. Ain’t it great.
In funny news, doing the arena quests rn.
It’s gotta be absolutely terrifying for my opponents. A see through lizard charges at you by jumping OVER the gate before it’s fully down and locks you into a close range battle where you can barely harm him, as he cuts through your defenses and makes your weapon dissolve.
I literally reach my opponents before they move.
It’s great
shut cradle
It's that elementary school prank
Sorry what. That sounds less like a prank and more like sexual assault
dawn bone
Sorry what. That sounds less like a prank and more like sexual assault
Yeahhhh………
rugged meteor
***ohno***
||Just leave him behind in an Oblivion Gate. Tell him to stay in a spot when inside one of the Gates, and then grab the Sigil Stone. He'll be trapped forever in that Gate.||
dawn bone
Nooooo…. That’s cruel!
||im going to leave him out in front of the arena until i find a cold dark place to hide him in||
rugged meteor
The reason he follows you around is he wants to be a Champion too. ||Let him become one through surviving in Oblivion.||
rugged meteor
||Sink or Swim.||
dawn bone
Truuuueee
Only problem: I’m gonna do the MSQ last
So
Ehhh
If I remember to I’ll do it
rugged meteor
And you haven't gotten the bug where some of the Gates are already open at the start of the game?
dawn bone
Nope!
rugged meteor
(With the exception of the Great Gate at Kvatch, which is always open at the start of the game.)
dawn bone
Yeah
rugged meteor
Just go do the Kvatch Gate, then, with him in tow. It'll even make the step of grabbing Martin easier, when you do finally do the MSQ, since you'll have already cleaned up Kvatch of its invaders, which is the only thing that keeps him from going with you to Weynon Priory.
dawn bone
Yeah yeah. I just wanna do all the guilds first
rugged meteor
Plus, there are some optional sidequests that pop up in Kvatch after you've saved it, so if you really want to do all the sidequests before the MSQ, you technically need to do Kvatch before the first visit to Weynon Priory.
rugged meteor
Technically saving Kvatch is a side quest. The actual MSQ is to convince Martin to follow you to Weynon Priory. It's just that to convince him to do that, you need to save Kvatch.
shut cradle
Gross
dawn bone
https://tenor.com/view/laughing-congratulations-gif-26219661
THOUSAND YEARS OF DEATH!
upper garden
trail kindle
proper naruto run
dawn bone
Dear god.
obtuse frost
nyooooom
upper garden
okay
I just bought so much stuff so fast I the voice lines overlayed
And the lady said "I wouldnt mind excelent pleasure with you"
Lady
You may be house Hlaalu but I just wanted your alchemy supplies
rugged meteor
Lady
You may be house Hlaalu but I just wanted your alchemy supplies
I mean, Hlaalu are the most corrupt of the 3 Great Houses anyway. So good on you for only wanting her Alchemy Supplies. :P
(Redoran are boring. Telvanni are Strongest Rule. Hlaalu are actively corrupt.)
rugged meteor
Hlaalu literally let you pay them to become the Hortitor. It’s great.
Yeah. Most of the Hortator* votes for Hlaalu are gotten by just giving the Hlaalu Councilmembers money.
Whereas Redoran and Telvanni you have to do fighting and fetchquests.
dawn bone
Honestly just stabbing your way into votes felt a lot more satisfying than “here money”
upper garden
Also something you can do that new players maybe dont know
stacking Feather Effects by using potions with different co-effects
dawn bone
Or using feather spells. Different ones stack.
upper garden
rugged meteor
Gotta love stacking effects by making them be from different sources.
dawn bone
Feather is great
upper garden
I just chugg my potions
dawn bone
Fair
upper garden
Also got Destro to 100 and combined with Fortify Magicka , Int and Willpower I can now combat viably cast Fingers of the Mountain
rugged meteor
Feather is great
My favorite use of feather in the TES games is that one time in Morrowind where Bethesda gave a 15 weight weapon 15 feather because in lore it's weightless, and then because it's weightless, it's in a floating chest.
dawn bone
Which tier of fingy?
upper garden
dawn bone
The 200 point obliterator? Ah no the 140.
dawn bone
The max level is literally impossible to cast passively. You have to buff up to cast it.
It honestly infuriates me
upper garden
The enchant system in Oblivion is just inferior to Skyrim
upper garden
And I dont mean when exploited but baseline
dawn bone
Yeah
upper garden
You need to invest more into it but can get more out of it and easier
even at just the beginning
rugged meteor
Also it doesn't cost gold directly in Skyrim.
dawn bone
And without oblivion stones the effects are junk
rugged meteor
Only indirectly in that you might need to buy the Soul Gems.
rugged meteor
Recharging is not a pain in the ass in Skyrim
I mean, it kinda is, if you have one made super strong and thus low charges, since you have to go into the inventory menu each time, and make sure you pick the correct Soul Gem (Azura's Star), but definitely better than in Oblivion where you have to spend a shit ton of gold at a guy in the Arcane University.
rugged meteor
Though Morrowind has the superior method of the 3: Passive regen of the charges based on your Enchanting Skill.
upper garden
You dont directly easily see which stones are filled , let alone what soul unless you have the extra menu open
and then its only showing what soul it has if you are on the item
then to recharge you use the stones
in Skyrim you have the recharge option on the item you want to apply it on and then it keeps a persisten window with all soul gems filled available
In oblivion you need to select a filled soul gem for every single recharge action
so depending on the refill that can mean to open a menu 8 times or more over and over
chasing down the next stone in your inventory
In Skyrim I rarely bother to get the star
its a nice to have but I usually get so many empty Soul Gems ( black and normal) that the storage doesnt matter
ancient nacelle
It didn’t use to be like that for Oblivion, iirc
That is one of the bad changes of the remaster
Recharging used to be easier and soul gems being filled or not used to be clearer
upper garden
Old Oblivion was the same
Just this bit was done better
the little side bit would come out when you hover over the item
Recharge menu
ancient nacelle
obtuse frost
"You didn't have-"
"Didn't have to pick the humming, glowing, obviously important plant, Jared? Of course my pockets are full of them."
rugged meteor
"They called to me, Jared. I had to pick them."
obtuse frost
Kinda like how most players immediately cross the river and wipe out that bandit camp once they leave the sewers
rugged meteor
The Ruin of Vilvaren, yes.
dawn bone
"They *called* to me, Jared. I *had* to pick them."
“This red one told me to KILL, JARED. You thought I wasn’t going to listen???”
rugged meteor
“This red one told me to KILL, JARED. You thought I wasn’t going to listen???”
"Where did I find this red one? Blackreach, up in Skyrim. Why do you ask?"
upper garden
Decided to uninstall after the hickups and stutters kept getting worse and worse the more I played
Skyblivion will be the time
upper garden
The Elder Scrolls Games
dawn bone
But. Our shiny title
upper garden
A bit more encompassing
dawn bone
Fair
rugged meteor
Finally, we can talk about the best TES game: Arena!
dawn bone
NO
trail kindle
We doing the younger scrolls
dawn bone
We can talk about Daggerfall Unity
upper garden
I bought a creation club thingy for Skyrim
dawn bone
upper garden
dont know why I had 100 coins
dawn bone
Ah
rugged meteor
I bought a creation club thingy for Skyrim
But you get all of them for free with Anniversary Edition.
upper garden
IIRC they gave then to everyone when anniversary came out
But mods and lazy
Anyway since I had the 100 coins
I found something that actually fits the playthrough I am testing preparing a pack for
rugged meteor
IIRC they gave then to everyone when anniversary came out
They gave 4 of them to the base game: Backpacks and Camping, survival, one of the houses, and Saints & Seducers.
The rest are included with the Anniversary Edition Upgrade, which you got for free if you owned Special Edition prior to AE releasing.
upper garden
This the one I got
bladed and spiked gauntlets to craft
Combined with Ordinator and the unarmed tree in the Light Armor Skills
rugged meteor
(Also Fishing was included, for base, but that one was ignored as a Creation Club thing, so it might as well just be fresh to base game.)
rugged meteor
NO
Also, Arena isn't actually the best TES game. I was being funny.
The best TES game is obviously Blades. 
dawn bone
ember pecan
They gave out several pouches of coins
Like if you bought anniversary edition you'd also get 1000 credits
Same with starfield, buy the deluxe and you get 1000
Fallout 4 with creation club introduction gave a bit as well
rugged meteor
Like if you bought anniversary edition you'd also get 1000 credits
But only if you bought it. If you got it for free due to owning SE before AE released, you didn't get the free credits.
rugged meteor
Source: I got it for free due to already owning SE, and got no CC coins.
rugged meteor
When they first released it, you could claim it for free if you already had SE.
ember pecan
Ah there's an update
That was released alongside
Could be that
Aside from you
Can't find any evidence of that happening
rugged meteor
Don't know what to say, I got AE for free. Didn't have to spend $10 on it.
And it wasn't from a promo code or anything like that. I was just able to add it to my copy like any free DLC for any other game.
When it released, I was able to just add it, for free.
dawn bone
Not quite. Hero bought it for me back in the day.
rugged meteor
Yeah, I bought Gur's one, but I got mine free.
dawn bone
Which I am very thankful for
trail kindle
dawn bone
@ember pecan you know what time it is.
upper garden
Elder Scrolls was tougher one
Making one for a whole franchise is harder to nail when it doesnt have a clear identity
dawn bone
Mhm.
rugged meteor
But where are Arena and Daggerfall? :P
ancient nacelle
No, the real question is, where is Blades
dawn bone
No, the real question is, where is Blades
Blades isn’t real
