i didn't use shields a lot in edf6 due to the different mission and enemy design in the main campaign. basically all of the new alien threats there have weapons you can avoid extremely easily as fencer, so the protection of shields isn't really relevant until later game missions or the DLC missions.
#Earth Defense Force
torn saffron
fencer's probably the best skirmisher class out there, the only thing he really lacks is good anti-air and super-high burst damage potential
lofty imp
Agreed. Nothing sucks quite as bad as dealing with wasps
Although I feel like everyone hates wasps
torn saffron
he's still a good fighter so he doesn't totally suck but he has to do actual work for it compared to ranger or wingdiver's homing weapons
AR is more flip-flop depending on how exactly the enemy group is dispersed
though in 6 he has both his old strafing run airstrikes and the electron coper, which basically works on literally anything that could be called a "chaff" enemy.
it mostly depends on the mission, but usually i like to take advantage of the crazy high mobility and combat ability that fencer has
especially online i generally feel like i can leave the sniping to my teammates and keep enemy crowds distracted/suppressed
potent anchor
Wait, you guys use the barriers?
lofty imp
Sometimes. Honestly, they aren't much use in Single Player, but in Multiplayer they can be a real force multiplier
Allowing your allies to shoot without worrying about ants and spiders can be huge, but only if your allies can actually do damage
torn saffron
well, most of the time ants and spiders are easily solved with airstrikes or similar crowd control tools
the electromagnetic walls are useful for blocking ranged attacks from alien-type enemies usually
grand crystal
The humans and grey men are the scary threats.
torn saffron
if you ever take a foray into DLC2 of EDF6 then you'll unfortunately become very familiar with sitting in a layered box of shields
grand crystal
The number of times I underestimated a red human and got cross mapped by a lobbed shot.
lofty imp
the electromagnetic walls are useful for blocking ranged attacks from alien-type...
I'm more referring to cave maps. I don't tend to use barriers on open area maps. Too easy to go around them
grand crystal
The number of times I underestimated a red human and got cross mapped by a lobbe...
So many failed missions.
lofty imp
Don't get many humanoid aliens on cave maps
grand crystal
Don't get many humanoid aliens on cave maps
I don’t think any?
torn saffron
too little to matter
grand crystal
Fair enough
torn saffron
I'm more referring to cave maps. I don't tend to use barriers on open area maps....
well, again, any variant after earlygame has enough to make a configuration that shields you from all sides
usually the technique is to place one, step back/forward a little, then place another
potent anchor
Rocket Launchers vs Missile Launchers
I like not aiming, but I can also see the good of rocket launchers.
torn saffron
rocket launchers are better for dense groups while missiles are better for dispersed ones
they also generally have way better sustained dps and ranged performance despite their low shot speed
dusty swift
beat EDF WB2
pretty fun
did the back half on hard, should mop up the previous ones on hard for potential rewards
dusty swift
now this is great
potent anchor
First time playing EDF 6?
grand crystal
No Throk played before, just didn’t do MP because of the account req
grand crystal
Which was stupid and I’m glad it’s gone.
potent anchor
God, I need to level stuff up on EDF 6, but it never drops what I need leveled up.
So many things stuck at level 5.
grand crystal
The pain.
dusty swift
500 weapons for a class you dont prefer, upon thee
grand crystal
Fencer why is all your gear maxed out when my dearest Dunkles reload speed has been 4 stars for the past 17 hours?
grand crystal
Rip
I think I have multiple maxed sprite falls in 5
Because of course they’re not what I wanted.
Honestly I wish that there was just an upgrade point system based on use time rather than RNG.
Like if I like a gun and use it gun should get better right?
potent anchor
Spritefall is good
dusty swift
Honestly I wish that there was just an upgrade point system based on use time ra...
World brothers 2 actually did it like this and it was neat, it only upped damage tho
dusty swift
Spritefall is good
Very
But if you dont play air raider its kinda useless y'know?
potent anchor
Lucky me I'm insane and played Air Raider first on both games
dusty swift
Same
Why shot things myself when i can throw C4 roombas at them
Or call up Phobos to carpet a few acres
stuck sierra
Me and my fencer RSIs wish I'd played as "paint that area of the map red" guy
But on the other hand; nyooooooooom
potent anchor
Fencer scares me
dusty swift
Its not so bad
The worst part is remembering the differences between your shift & space functions
Which are weapon dependant
dusty swift
alright, running theory hear me out
grand crystal
potential running answer.
dusty swift
The ||Kruul/demons are the real primers is my bet. either that or there's some sorta class system where Kruul are on top while the Grayliens & frogs are below?||
||And they're all primers?||
||Or the Kruul are not primers, everything else is a primer and they are what was... primed for||
grand crystal
mmmm interesting interesting. what kind of answer would you like? the truth? a comforting lie? generic contemplation?
dusty swift
Comforting lie
grand crystal
all is well and nothing is happening. you are safe and the world is not in danger.
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dusty swift
Cant believe they added a sick ass rock/grundge guitar riff to the menu music
dusty swift
According to my friend we have reached "The fun timeline" being EDF8 or 9
Starting as a civvie and the proff. Was just like "Paradox be damned, go fight everything"
grand crystal
Im sorry which game are you playing?
grand crystal
oh. ohhhh right each yeah right. I forgot how the game titles itself.
dusty swift
And we're onto EDF8
grand crystal
yeah if you're at 8 the fun is really beginning.
not to say 6 and 7 were bad, its just they were getting you up to speed about your new hellscape of eternity.
but 8. ehehehhehehehe.
have fun!
dusty swift
We keep joking like "damn how old is storm 1 at this point
dusty swift
Also the missions with ||Siren/glaukos & Scylla we STEAMROLLED||
As just Air Raider & Wing diver
grand crystal
Nice.
dusty swift
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Damn.
dusty swift
got my friend to finish world brothers 2. we're either gonna set our sights on 4.1, Iron rain (if it goes on sale good god 60 bucks?) or Insect Armageddon
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IA
go for IA
its jank. its weird. its sure as hell not classically EDF.
but its so good.
the Ravagers remain one of my favorite enemies we face across all of EDF. the hyper robotics are just. oooh.
(also it has immortal AI helper buddies and they're really nice to have)
dusty swift
IA is like 10 bucks so most likely itll be the in-between to 4
Also while looking for 4.1 we found a/the shmup
Same price as the normal game
grand crystal
IA is like 10 bucks so most likely itll be the in-between to 4
fair nuff.
oh. and I am sorry for the tick spiders.
enjoy your nightmare fuel.
torn saffron
got my friend to finish world brothers 2. we're either gonna set our sights on 4...
4.1 is a part of the mainline experience, so it's kind of the archetypical edf game (just with like 13-year old design)
out of the 4.1 -> 6 lineup it definitely has the best localization
however i'm pretty sure there's a memory leak associated with the ingame chat function when playing multiplayer
only kicks in during the mission/weapon select menus but be aware
dusty swift
also Steve Blum jumpscare wtf
tardy chasm
. . . who?
One of the people of all time(idk)
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dusty swift
Abel from Date everything?
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ah
dusty swift
anyroad
a 60 fps patch hasn't broken anything yet and my anti-virus isnt yelling at me so
yippee
grand crystal
enjoy your FORCED OPENING TURRET SECTION.
THIS GAME IS FROM 2011. AND YOU BEST REMEMBER THAT. AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA.
its so bad Im so sorry
every turret section after that first one is actually fairly well done
dusty swift
I can feel the 2000's shooter flowing through my veins
grand crystal
good times.
dusty swift
its so grundgy, and i kinda dig it
grand crystal
its actually got a really solid art style.
like. it is very much its own thing from EDF. but it wears it with pride.
the whiplash of Wing Diver being a full suited dude is. I mean.
I actually kinda prefer him over the official Wing Diver?
I dunno. his grungy gas mask is just. a vibe.
dusty swift
i'm headcannoning that its a different country
like mainline edf5/6 is like, from asia, IA is america
grand crystal
this is the American EDF.
probably.
dusty swift
havent done IR yet
grand crystal
IR is weird in its own way.
dusty swift
until i find out they're british'
grand crystal
oh important note, IIRC EDF:IA has checkpoints.
like
if you screw up you dont just return to mission start.
dusty swift
interesting
grand crystal
now, I might be making that up, but I vaguely recall that being a thing.
torn saffron
IA and IR are like, two different attempts to make an american/westernized EDF it feels
grand crystal
no but like actually literlaly. EDF IA is set in America.
torn saffron
i bought IR on sale but to be 100% honest i haven't touched it once
grand crystal
and IA was developed by Vicious Cycle rather than Sandlot
IA is.
weird.
in all my favorite goobery ways.
also the cover art.
its so brutal.
(I really like this game. probably the incorrect amount. but oh well.)
but yeah it has a ton of enemies and enemy types that just.
never show up again. anywhere else. robotic bugs my beloved. good times.
torn saffron
...i also have WB2 from a giveaway that i still haven't touched yet
i really should play wb2 but i've been caught up in a lot of things
dusty swift
i can vouch WB2 is unironically really good
i went in thinking "Ha ha silly voxel game" and about 10-20 levels in i was like "oh shit this is surprisingly in-depth"
torn saffron
i mean WB1 was a pretty solid game and i played it through for a difficulty or two
potent anchor
I remember really liking IA Wing Diver in World Brothers so far, especially the weapon he starts with
grand crystal
IA is in WB????
dusty swift
Jet armor in WB2 might not've been like, god killing but they had sauce and alot of ground mobility
both
both are actually
and the shmup wing diver too
potent anchor
IA guy is the one who kinda just floats around and has a very different kind of fly/hover, right?
dusty swift
all the flys where the same mechanically tbh, but compared to the wing divers he had a sprint instead of a dodge
still consumed fly energy
potent anchor
Forgot the name of the weapon besides it spewing out bursts of rockets.
potent anchor
all the flys where the same mechanically tbh, but compared to the wing divers he...
Is it? Huh.
Oh yea, I'm remembering now.
dusty swift
and the shmup wing diver too
there is also all the "Brothers and sister" some of which may be borderline racist caricatures but
and they range from "real military kinda" to "Boxer, with main weapon of boxing gloves"
potent anchor
I don't think too hard on the caricatures, I've kinda accepted the game is taking itself way less seriously than any of the other EDF games.
dusty swift
grand crystal
He looks just like us!
Truly the greatest soldier.
@tardy chasm Hugh Mann just got promoted to captain!
tardy chasm
congratulations, Captain Hugh Mann
grand crystal
(I just noticed the tweet named him Hugh Mann. I pulled that name out of my ass to be completely honest.)
tardy chasm
I remember years ago we'd be calling the froggos Hugh Manns
dusty swift
thanks EDF:IA
potent anchor
To Battle Blast or to Battle Zapper.. that is the question.
Is the Zapper like a strong taser or something?
dusty swift
To Battle Blast or to Battle Zapper.. that is the question.
*Batlle blast
dusty swift
dusty swift
so we finished the main campaign of IA
and im like
thats it?
that was super short for an EDF campaign
and this was only slightly dissapointing
dusty swift
that was super short for an EDF campaign
Id like to preface we still had fun, the writing felt like a 2000's time capsule of what shooter games where doing at the time, and its still an EDF game, hard to go wrong with "shoot bugs and other big things."
The very final mission tho, ||was 5 giant hectors really necessary for how often i cant hit them?||
AND ||THE ENDING ITSELF?! I applaud its bravery to have us "lose"||
grand crystal
that was super short for an EDF campaign
yeup. 12 longish missions. but thats it.
honestly? I love it. its super short, super sweet, and just. its like. well you played it you know damn well what Im talking about.
it knows what it wants to do and does exactly that. no more no less.
dusty swift
I commend it
Respectfully i probably wont be grinding it out or anything like that but for 12 CAD shit, what a steal
grand crystal
Respectfully i probably wont be grinding it out or anything like that but for 12...
as someone who did a lot of that grinding once upon a time long ago....
its like barely worth it anyways.
although I will say its INFERNO has always felt the best to me across the series.
probably because its INFERNO is equivilent to HARDEST rather than INFERNO.
turns out when you only have 3 difficulties and 12 missions balance is a lot easier.
whoda thunk.
dusty swift
The collection grows
grand crystal
Weird?
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Well I’ll be damned. We meet again Tactical.
And I know damn well you played the game I’m referencing
dusty swift
We'll workshop it
grand crystal
Yeahhhhh
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Femcer?
dusty swift
yeaaah
I also dont have access to 2 of the 4 classes which is jarring but y'know, wierd game
Westernized EDF part 2
grand crystal
Oh well.
Nothing will be more American EDF than giant metal preying mantises chucking blade beams at you.
That’s all I’m sayin.
grand crystal
Yey!
dusty swift
Badass
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Sick.
dusty swift
its not the K-truck but, it'll do
dusty swift
ther is finally a semi-usable flying craft