yeah. true.
#Wayfinder
prime kestrel
whole marlin
true is
But DE Pub dismatle was really....sudden
Still i have feeling it was Tencent order to cut the necessary cost
prime kestrel
yes well
we have no proof towards anything
besides "de suddenly dropped the game and dismantled their publishing division"
whole marlin
Well we dont know any documents and stuff what is happening behind the scenes
prime kestrel
yep
whole marlin
It's just judging by surface....some times feels wrong
prime kestrel
Im not saying you cant have a gut feeling
I trust those all the time
I just want to mention we also have no hard evidence. which just makes most things wild speculation
gut feelings are good. but they aint perfect.
whole marlin
And it's not helping all previous DE published games was flopped
.....I think DE just not very compitent as publishers....
prime kestrel
I think DE had one massive breakout success
and they kinda forgot how to do anything else
prime kestrel
never know.
whole marlin
Anyhow enough of DE talk for now
prime kestrel
okie
desert musk
Didn't DE have that other game that just kinda fizzled?
prime kestrel
Didn't DE have that other game that just kinda fizzled?
I think theyve had a few
thick compass
I fondly recall unreal tournament 2004's onslaught mode
vernal smelt
Didn't DE have that other game that just kinda fizzled?
This was the last game they were involved in before wayfinder/soulfinder https://steamcommunity.com/app/606140
Oh and a hero shooter "the amazing eternals" from 2017 that was quickly aacked
desert musk
That's the one.
thick compass
okay seriously though I see my wayfinders have a bunch of affinity and talent points and like. A) how do I even pick what to level there are so many numbers 2) wait, I thought the talent tree thing was ACCOUNT wide. is it actually a different tree per wayfinder? oh god more numbers
and it really is all just numbers, dangit.
and then you add the artefacts, which are themselves just bags of numbers. and the echoes, which are also numbers, except for the legendary ones
twin seal
the skill tree is per character but each archtype of wayfinder has a unique layout of skills
sonic nest
I dont see a problem here
A lot of RPGs have numbers
That isnt even bad
And complaining about numbers as a warframe player?
Uuuuuh. Ok
There are just smaller numbers and bigger numbers. Thats all
I could agree there could be some cool changes to skills which make all way more interesting
Maybe one day
They did improved with character agency. By making this skill tree, but.... Its both good and bad
It lacks strong personality. There is baerly anything what would make classes unique
Only thing what makes it unique is those 9 perks from affinity (which are not that super good) and character skills
But there is a lot of generalisation
Which again is good and bad
It gives freedom yes, but dilutes the system a bit
thick compass
the warframe number problem is easy because the items in warframe are all concrete and unique, but in wayfinder they all roll random stats and then those stats also randomly belong to one of your three affinity boosts. and then you equip echoes, which also seem to roll random stats
modern jackal
No not really
The stats and affinity are set per item
The different values for same item comes from leveled instances of an item
the only random bit are the echo SLOTS
sonic nest
Yeah
prime kestrel
so basically, just slot farming, everything else is set in stone?
sonic nest
I dont know how you came to conclusion they all roll random stats
Yes
Literally only thing you care about is echo slots
prime kestrel
damn
prime kestrel
half are pre selected?
sonic nest
Yes
prime kestrel
thats fairly reasonable
and by fairly reasonable I mean that grind is still gonna take 20+ hours
sonic nest
Wayfinders will ALWAYS get their predisigned echo slots
prime kestrel
but it wont be toxic
sonic nest
Same goes for weapons after enhancing.
Only rng part is 3 out of 4 echo slots on weapon and 2 curio slots
But even then, you can just buy weapons with money
And you get stupid amount of money
As you progress with story Arsenal shop expands with new offers and increases weapon levels what you can buy by 10
Green 10, blue 20, purple 30
Weapon rarities appear sooner than that, but that really doesnt matter, as rarity just stands for overall level
You never will have green lvl 30 for example, it will be always purple
prime kestrel
but I want a white level 70
sonic nest
Tough luck
You cant
Also max level for weapons is 38
For now
Post game Glory shop have legendary variant of every weapon excpet super special 4
They all are locked to 38
prime kestrel
extremely rude
sonic nest
You dont even need to have weapons obtained previously to buy them once you unlock them in shop
So something MIGHT be new, doesnt need to, but it can happen
I already left feedback on their forum
The issue with grind is
Common rarity spectra funny enough
And maybe phoenix feathers
Maybe witchcharmed effigy?
Pretty much just those 3
Like. Even glory is laughibly easy to farm kinda
Because all you do is do a quest for specific double imbudement boss which is scaled to late game
thick compass
continuing on some wayfindin'. got the argent hand, got my ass kicked
I guess now is finally time to grind
thick compass
getting tired of ransom and tempest, when do I get another gun
thick compass
nuts.
thick compass
so how exactly can you handle the "bad floor" mutators like double flora, or chaos+solar, as a melee char?
modern jackal
yeah
They suck and you can only pray and be fast
kill only what is needed and move
Pray you have enough healing left at the end
thick compass
:/
sonic nest
play wingrave
marble elk
or ven
prime kestrel
Wingrave solves most problems with heal spam
thick compass
ventured into the bloodworks with chaos+greed, my lv15 wingrave dies in under a second if I step on an environmental hazard~
thick compass
Oooooh!
thick compass
aaand it's out. gonna check it out, but still, the whole "actually melee feels kind of bad" issue isn't changed
modern jackal
Decreased enemy respawn times in Highlands and Forstmarch by 50%.
YES
This was a nonsensical remnant from the MMO time
YES YES
Wayfinder Memories can now be viewed so long as the required Wayfinder has been summoned, regardless of which Wayfinder is currently equipped.
twin seal
> Decreased enemy respawn times in Highlands and Forstmarch by 50%.
wish it was a manual respawn instead of timer
thick compass
yeah I might actually get more than just silo's memories now woot
modern jackal
Yeah I started to leave them behind as well
thick compass
I'm at the point in the main story where you unlock double mutators and I'm going through the mandatory dungeons now and just
modern jackal
Too much of a pain to constantly switch
thick compass
lemme tell ya, double flora with a melee character is like "airship syndicate, please reconsider"
modern jackal
and when I switched the Talent tree echoes unequipped
thick compass
met ryvn. consistently one shot. alt-f4. sigh
thick compass
Soooo. There's another patch now. Hurray?
prime kestrel
yay?
marble elk
Performance and bug fixes only it seems.
vernal smelt
thats a LOT
marble elk
That's a bit more than fixes.
thick compass
wow, another wayfinders patch! list of changes:
- made install size smaller. unfortunately the only way to apply the patch is via complete 37gb redownload.
come to think of it, when was the last time I defragmented
prime kestrel
thats..... lovely.
thick compass
y'all have ADSL right
prime kestrel
ADSL?
thick compass
yeah for quick internets. should download in a couple hours no problem
twin seal
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1171690/view/4607833411866577817
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1171690/view/4607833411863294371
vernal smelt
@modern jackal
modern jackal
ALMOST perfect
we could have gotten Bad News as a skin for riffles
but I take Trinket mount
whole marlin
Huuuuh.....Why 1.0 feels a bit to speedy?
desert musk
IIRC this was always the plan.
Not sure if it'll be a good 1.0
But even back in 2022 when I visited the studio they were shooting for 1.0 by the end of this year.
whole marlin
Huh....in this case it's fine
I just being paranoid
Just general trust in gaming is not very stable
thick compass
mostly because 1.0 for a live service game looks considerably different than 1.0 for a "this is it, this is what your money gets you"
thick compass
from the wayfinders discord
this is a bit of a record scratch moment for me because, hang the fuck on. who DID I give my money to, then?
(should I gift some people battlechasers/darksiders genesis to show support or will that money go to someone else too? aaaargh)
whole marlin
Wtf? They dint get paid from Founder sales?
Gosh i'm scared now they on verge of bankruptcy
thick compass
apparently, since it was meant to be a live service game, AS were paid by the milestone, and that wasn't scaled up for sales or w/e
so anyone buying $100 founder packs who wanted a refund better talk to steam or sony, AS ain't got your money vOv
still, I'm not privy to the particulars and minutia of AS's financials, on account of I am some guy from the internet, so I can only hope they're getting along fine. on the bright side, not being owned by a big gaming publisher means they're not getting mass layoffs the big game publishers are so fond of doing
whole marlin
Ye hope they will be okay after release of 1.0
thick compass
on the bright side I think they are getting the money from anyone who bought the game after they got dumped
however few sales that is
modern jackal
The founder pack money went to DE
Warframe
and since they pulled out Airship couldnt do anything for people who went pissy because of the switch to singleplayer offline and wanted refunds
and Air ship couldnt grant them because they never were the targets of those sales in the first place
modern jackal
The Way
We found a new one
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1171690/view/4557171720116578596
