Orb is approaching completion!
#Idle & Incremental Masterlist
tacit current
karmic juniper
NEW GAME +?!
ORB FINISHING SOON?!
its. we're so close......
drowsy swan
deep evolve run has reached the point of 'This is not enough people we need more people'
Gotta get more crew for the ships we're building
toxic cradle
The words "Grants buff" activates my neurons, gotta spend time unlocking this just to see that I still need a bunch of other stuff to even activate the buff, but hey, it's new shiny
drowsy swan
The closer to the goal we get, the more evil specifically helium-3 discharge is.
Only now after much fiddling, are we finally positive on income of it even when the main source of it is working at a substantial penalty
boreal thicket
Been caching up Terraformental, running a new clear save for steam, and god damn Strabo is ...iritating.
honest nymph
didnt the latest patch make it a bit easier?
boreal thicket
Oh getting there is quite easy, just dealing with the whole ||sandstorms messing up your energy source so you have to run around expanding and pulling back the solar panels||
tacit current
I need to get back there
last loop I got to the hanger for the first time but didn't have it powered
honest nymph
hehe fun
tacit current
still haven't figured out how to "finish" the current vtol repair
tacit current
I know, it isnt finished
but what there IS I havent figured out
honest nymph
or maybe one, ||since you can salvage rotors from the downed one||
tacit current
never seen the option :/
but maybe if we learn more
I just wish I could save a loop path
honest nymph
i could pack em up and load em in the rover, didnt bother making the while trip back with em tho
even had the option to disasemble and make em fit if i already had the genny or water maker in there
boreal thicket
Nav Comp is still not implemented for Vtol at least
raw gazelle
really having a good time with Gravend, Thanks for the Recc there
nova night
it is a good game i already killed my first lurker
tacit current
killed the first lurker before the temple
expected a stronger fight from the priest
nova night
yeah that one needs a lot of prep
tacit current
but oh man the passive loot is worth dipping into
nova night
no kidding but i feel like getting the means to build quickly will help out
tacit current
think il go monk after I finish fish
see what that has to offer
Link btw
https://www.gravend.net/
nova night
i desided to for go trying to get wanderers more op skill because that cost is nuts so i am working on ways to gather stuff more effectively that my plan
raw gazelle
I'd slot Iron lung to the abilities hotbar and just keep it up. Every use increases it's timer and most jobs don't seem to use their mp for anything else atm
tacit current
oops
nova night
this is why you always have poison cures ready or in my case overload on mega potions
tacit current
naw I just died instead
was training cooking with dirty water
nova night
should have boiled the water duh
honest nymph
but that has a 50% failure rate :p
tacit current
oh wait no it was potion brewing, not cooking I did that ended up with that
nova night
it easy to get enough dirty water and legs to make that pointless sus
honest nymph
i was joking
nova night
making every passing perm reugardless really makes it easy for me to relax
honest nymph
screwy question with gravend, is cutting the dry paper sheet into scrolls papermaker or scribe domain?
i do have the crute cutting stool, but the process dry paper sheet wont do anything, currently papermaker :p
worked it out, cant be striping bark and cutting at the same time
raw gazelle
I have not attempted paper yet, did build all the stuff for it tho. Finally got to farming(and setup an auto clicker to plant and harvest while I napped)
honest nymph
how was a pile of pebbles so tough to kill? :p
tacit current
stupidly annoying fight that one
honest nymph
resorted to ||wanderer with the weapon from the fungus area and cooks burn proc||, eventually whittled it down
tacit current
||poison, burn, backstab|| finally worked for me
honest nymph
next target ||shai halud||
raw gazelle
Some enemies need defense bypassing attacks
boreal thicket
how was a pile of pebbles so tough to kill? :p
Just got killed by that one lol
nova night
i been just buildiing the|| watch ||tower and roads everywhere||||
huh so you cant double overlay neat
raw gazelle
I'm hoping I have a ridiculous amount of logs when I get home from work tonight to pop (building)||watch towers|| more places
nova night
it caps at 2 hour afk time
raw gazelle
(Unless you have the page open and an autoclicker)
nova night
then that not afk that is proxy
drowsy swan
A surprise feat in the evolve run
honest nymph
i would like to be able to see actions in an area tied to unlocked classes, so when building i know to bring the carp or mason :p
and a button to quickly put gear back on after something eats it, looking at you ||pirana||
nova night
those are in the game
it a setting in world map for the first one and the other one is in the gear menu
i feel like sometimes i am the only one that studys everything in a game
that also explains why i am oddly good at tatic games
honest nymph
mind screenshotting them? found the pin the gear to the main page but not a requip the last thing i was using button, and on the world map i found the gatherable highlight but nothing to show what i can build in each square
nova night
ok first the map
ah forgot i lack permission to post images
ok so open the map menu then click open world map
top right it says gather
for the gear you have to click on the fav menu
gear then fav
honest nymph
yea found that, i want to build tho :p
nova night
oh the tiles themselfs tell you that
and when you can build on them is another setting in the world map
it called dim non buildable
honest nymph
yea that tells me i can build there but not what without dragging every construction class to that tile to check the options
nova night
moving on to the more importent one
open up the gear menu you will see a small menu called favorite open that up and you can set gear to put on anytime
one side sets the other actives
honest nymph
that will help thanks
nova night
your welcome when you see so many people rage quit at games because they didnt understand you start to think maybe you need to step in
ugg making paper is so anoyying
raw gazelle
Paper will become easier. I popped on the games discord and folks there are also quite helpful if we don't have info for ya
nova night
i know it gets easier i checked the skill list and didnt know they had a active discord yet
i already unlocked a side quest only class
nova night
oh snap there are hidden drops
honest nymph
yay home temple built
west pumice
Yay, beat Journey! https://meneth.github.io/journey-to-ascension/
honest nymph
grats
nova night
oh snap kill the lich being ported
tacit current
I would say more web app wrapper
but yea
nova night
almost fully automated scrolls
toxic cradle
so close
but didn't make it
I guess I can swap my perception training for soul training, since soul has con as a secondary when perception doesn't
nova night
ugg why is making combat scrolls more boring then paper at least now that i know how to automate it just need to get enough ap for it
raw gazelle
Once you get automation, it is far less of a problem
nova night
i did all the other set up i just need the ap it just very boring
as least with the paper it like a puzzle with the scrolls it click and wait over and over with no change
nova night
btw why cant i get ap as the golem maker
raw gazelle
So far it seems useless for them as far as i can tell anyways
toxic cradle
New place on the horizon (I'm pretty sure I know where it goes but it's still new)
honest nymph
grats
karmic juniper
New place on the horizon (I'm pretty sure I know where it goes but it's still ne...
Ooooh. You’re in for some fun!
toxic cradle
Well, I still gotta loop the forest path a metric ton since my dark magic is only roughly 100
same with practical magic, and I'm gonna get both of them up together because why not?
karmic juniper
Happy grinding.
toxic cradle
also doing the alchemy training since that's item limited and I want my alchemy up at all times
I'm doing a lot of things actually
karmic juniper
You’re looping with style and panache.
toxic cradle
The main bit I know I'll hate is getting spatiomancy to 100, that'll take forever
since at least forest path is real close and loops fast
spatiomancy is long to get to and I can barely do any per loop
toxic cradle
might be better to get to pyro 200 so I can see where that'll take me since I still gotta do that, but my pyro is already almost there so it'd take less time, but practical and dark magic up will help in the long run too so idk
in short, I got a lot I need to grind
toxic cradle
From what I can see, Dark Magic seems alright, but seems like it'd fall to diminishing returns quick
karmic juniper
From what I can see, Dark Magic seems alright, but seems like it'd fall to dimin...
It’s not about its direct ability
It’s about UNLOCKS.
It’s direct ability is meh
The things it lets you start doing though?
Very useful.
toxic cradle
I mean, I figured once I got above 100, I'd have seen everything I would immediately try doing
since if it didn't even hint that a thing unlocks past 100 dark magic, it'd take a while before I even care to grind that up
Practical magic seems more useful in that front since at the very least, I know what I'm getting up to 400, and that is all very good
past 400 for practical, seems basically useless unless it hints more later
If I decide to grind up pyro instead, at the very least I can also get a lot more soulstones, since small dungeon getting 6 per loop is trivial when doing pyro and getting like at least 60 per loop
karmic juniper
Fair enough
But 666 dark magic go brrrrrt.
Or was that demonology?
Do thing you give to witch. Max out. Muchly worth. Then power level everything to like 1k or something
toxic cradle
1k is a lot, you know this right?
like, my highest skill is pure magic at 354, and that's because it's the easiest thing to level up since I get the most skill points from it, and it's the first skill you can actively train alongside combat (which that training is also terrible at this point)
costs 1k mana per 214 magic skill, and I can basically immediately do that, especially given dark ritual bonus works best in the start so I currently also go twice as fast in the beginning
and even then, I'm not even halfway to 1k
like talent I could power level to 1k, I already have some talents past the 1k mark
with an outlier of intelligence at 2.6k
I'm basically trying to balance not progressing while grinding, with actual progression, since I've found that actual progression tends to unlock things that either give new things that can help in old areas, or just flat out make earlier things easier
Like mercantalism getting more mana from merchants just is an overall boost everywhere, even if I've done barely nothing with it since it takes forever to train up
toxic cradle
I gotta unlock more tho
karmic juniper
Grind
toxic cradle
Unlock
karmic juniper
Grind will unlock more.
toxic cradle
Unlock lets me grind more
tacit current
shrewd mica
toxic cradle
1k dark magic, that's a lot, thank god I decided to unlock more to see I can grind more to this though
nova night
there is a way to speed that up greatly
toxic cradle
Yeah, you won't catch me grinding this to 1k right now anyways, since I don't think the unlock will be all that useful right now
Like, I've just unlocked what I feel is my next greatest leap of power that I just need to grind out a bit
nova night
meanwhile I am guild training
karmic juniper
ORBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
nova night
almost time to return to orb
drowsy swan
ORB soon be upon us
toxic cradle
Can't even see any colour on this progress bar, and it stopped there ;_;
nova night
well looks like I cant play idle loops anymore the game super crashed for me
nova night
yup
oh wait
I just needed to slow the game down it was stuck in hyper speed so it jammed
I just turned off the speed bonus then it snapped back to working perfectly again
toxic cradle
ok, the game has told me to stop unlocking things and to start grinding now
Since that is categorically impossible until I grind
honest nymph
ahh i recognise that roadblock
nova night
yeah that was a pain to get over
toxic cradle
Like, I fully understand what I have to do to beat it, but that'll take a long while
honest nymph
need a fair few soulstones banked up
karmic juniper
ok, the game has told me to stop unlocking things and to start grinding now
Ah that’s a fun one
karmic juniper
I might. have an addiction to automation.
honest nymph
how long till you can automate your addiction?
karmic juniper
At some point probably
tacit current
time to do the impossible
karmic juniper
Dear god.
raw gazelle
Which game is that one m'raider?
honest nymph
orb of creation?
raw gazelle
I guess so? I don't remember that ui. Though it's also been years
tacit current
Thought I saw this get posted, but I don't see it now
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4522510/Kill_the_Lich_Idle/
it got a steam release
tacit current
meant for the release a day or so ago
not when first announced
yea here is was #nerdtalk message
karmic juniper
I might. have an addiction to automation.
It is good. Muchly overdrive.
Also I really wish it was just a book because there’s so much good writing.
Like. Hooh.
raw gazelle
Ah, got it, ty ry
toxic cradle
ok, the game has told me to stop unlocking things and to start grinding now
Done the first step of grind, got the stats to open the rift, now it seems I gotta grind a lot to get the speed now that I got the shortcut, but I'd say 10 minutes for 3 floors of the spire seems decent, won't be an exact 10 minutes for 300 soul stones given the chance to not get one, but it's close enough
nova night
meanwhile I think I almost beat the game
honest nymph
i may have left it alone too long, more than enough to smash the end 🙂
and was still only|| 3/7 imbue souls||
wow was actually depleting the large dungeon and the next one
karmic juniper
Kill The Lich: ||THERES MULTIPLE TABS?! WELL THEN. AHAHAHHAHAHA. oh how the spiral continues to span outwards endlessly.||
tacit current
karmic juniper
le gasp
Kill The Lich Story ||oh god. changing the target of overclock from itself to killing the lich. oh. oh no. thats. honestly Im a lil terrified for the Lich. like. sure I know Im not gonna win but. I know damn well he aint gonna have a good time either.||
wary quarry
What are the current big incremental games here? Haven't really kept up with the genre as of late
honest nymph
orb of creation and omsiloops are good
raw gazelle
I've really been liking gravend as well. Tower wizard is a very solid shorter experience.
rigid orchid
Terraformental has a lot of good ideas, but is still only partly complete.
wary quarry
orb of creation and omsiloops are good
The original dmchurch version for Omsiloop or the Lloyd fork? Saw both of them appear high
raw gazelle
I can't remember the exact name but Arcanum is fun too
wary quarry
Magic Research is neat too
karmic juniper
theory of magic is solid if weird.
I like cookie clicker.
ya cant beat the classics (yes you can but dont let cookie clicker hear you say that)
honest nymph
the grannies are coming :p
honest nymph
did the steam release add anything the browser one didnt have?
karmic juniper
never played the browser one so I have no idea!
seemingly no?
I found one steam review from someone with .2 hours calling it the "worst onboarding from an idler ever"
and they have clearly not seen the depths of hell with their own eyes.
wary quarry
The original dmchurch version for Omsiloop or the Lloyd fork? Saw both of them a...
Think I got them mixed up. Seems like it's Idle Loops, then Omsi Loops (Lloyd), and then Omsi Loops (dmchurch)
karmic juniper
oh theres also Evolve.
if you wanna lose your damned mind,.
but Evolve can be chill.
what other idlers do we like around hereeeeeeee.......
I dunno outside of those browser ones its basically open season of whatever anyone has latched onto recently and wants to take over the chat with.
wary quarry
Guess the wanderbot incremental playlist is a good place to find some good variety
karmic juniper
while. frustrating and a bit. annoying at times, Tower Wizard was a good rhomp.
and theres always Plantera 2.
and gnorp.
and like 12 others
wary quarry
I dunno outside of those browser ones its basically open season of whatever anyo...
It's nice indeed reading what each one is up to
karmic juniper
Im currently on Bloobs Adventure Idle which is.
hm.
I would politely put it as unfinished.
given its in early access that makes sense.
kinda wish instead of starting with all 24 skills they just. had like. seven that mattered and branched from there. but nah this. this is fine tooooooooooo.
(I mean mainly Im annoyed because leveling agility in Bloobs is just, ass.)
honest nymph
still love this one in kill the lich
tacit current
Oh..
||there are 4 tabs|| in KTL
karmic juniper
oh my
raw gazelle
closest I've gotten so far in 3rd tab of KTL.
honest nymph
oo close, lot further than me, how often do you guys reset and when? im getting to lvl 3 in about a day
raw gazelle
I have 3000 hours of bonus speed, So i usually do when I get up, maybe before work, and when I get back from work. Currently get to lvl 6 most of the time.
tacit current
I have beat the lich once and im getting close-ish to doing it a second time
I usually do a few quick resets to around 80% of my current limit to boost up my purple multipliers and of course get whispers/coins
then do a longer one to push to a further milestone
then repeat
west pumice
The diminishing returns feels pretty harsh on longer runs, I tend to push HATL up one level per reset. Ideally runs don't take more than 24h, more likely in the 16-20h range, but I think ideal run length is even shorter if I was optimizing more...
More shorter runs get you AW much faster, more HATL/MQ get you AC faster
raw gazelle
tab 4 attained
karmic juniper
damn
and here all I'm working on is Feeling the Dispair.
this node is poorly named.
even with the story attached to it
it just really shouldnt be called this.
hell the fact that this is in the momentum trees and not the conversation trees REALLY doesnt make sense to me given the attached lore.
positive news, I keep looping faster and faster.
tacit current
WOO
tacit current
Lich down for a second time
honest nymph
rigid orchid
Oh that’s way better. They got scammed by a prompter for their last cover image. This looks basic, but it works.
tacit current
honest nymph
gimme
tacit current
Lich down for the third time
seems I have reached the start of the end of content
as well as burned my entire nestegg of bonus time
honest nymph
thats alot of whispers
karmic juniper
so. Bloobs Adventure Idle doesnt care if its sped up via cheat engine.
so
permanent 5 times speed for me thank you very much.
(higher than that and the game gets. upset.)
raw gazelle
(I wish more idle games could let ce speed work)
Works with your chronicle, though I haven't played that in a few years now
karmic juniper
like seriously
its.
so many that are singleplayer experiences just.
dont let you do that.
magic research 2 literally has an in built feature to prevent it.
which is insane.
why does MAGIC RESEARCH TWO care if Im speeding it up?!
theres no store. theres no leaderboard. theres NOTHING.
raw gazelle
Weird error in my favor with KTL. For some reason the Bonus Time was going up at an Incredible rate while at 10x speed. went from around 2k hours left to 13k
nova night
yeah it goes up
raw gazelle
I mean since i got off work today, about an hour ago
toxic cradle
Got there in 59.8 seconds, very much got no wiggleroom right now, and the place after really wants me to have said wiggleroom to do stuff
also funnily I skipped a story beat as I got to see a story piece that I straight up haven't done because I got here so fast
toxic cradle
Definitely good and important that I got here though, since I've unlocked what seems to be a very important addition
toxic cradle
Hadn't touched crafting in a while, and oops, jumped from E rank straight up to A
honest nymph
hehe
make sure to read the lore that comes with the upgrades, fun how they change their perceptions of you :)(
toxic cradle
I have been doing
I've read all the lore and while waiting, I sometimes even re-read stuff
My what a useful radar chart (It's so useless)
That's been useless for so long
either it's too small to really matter, or it quickly hits 100 and you can't see the specific percentages you're getting since it's actually like 99.999%
honest nymph
still fun to watch it spread
toxic cradle
true
karmic juniper
My what a useful radar chart (It's so useless)
It had more use way back before we started with 1000 in every stat.
toxic cradle
I just wish it scaled the 0 up, rather than enforcing that 0 has to be the lowest value, since if it just made the lowest percentage the lowest value, and keep 100 at the top, it'd be so much more useful, even if I's fully expect to see a spike on int with everything else below by a mile
karmic juniper
Yeah.
honest nymph
drowsy swan
ORB ALERT
pearl tusk
Just came here to do the same lol
karmic juniper
THE ORRRRRRBBBBBBBB
tacit current
Already past a full day of runtime in this loop
but this the closest I have ever been to getting over this wall
nova night
I been forcusing on the coins
tacit current
Been playing this for a few hours, is good for being released on May 8th
https://kevinfu510.itch.io/idle-directive
and has a Steam release in June this year
tacit current
also Idle is a bit of a misnomer, is QUITE active
boreal thicket
Unlocked third tab in Kill The Litch - well doing anything there will take time. Does the energy go up on every reset or only on severance?
tacit current
Unlocked third tab in Kill The Litch - well doing anything there will take time....
||Fourth tab I think you mean? Third is the northern wasteland||
||But yes, you get more death energy only on severance, but you do get more at once when as you severe more||
boreal thicket
||Oh its interesting, so some of the Infusion attributes get reset and some do not||
tacit current
have you tried hovering over the gear and lightning bolts on nodes?
boreal thicket
Ohhh...not on these ones 🙂
tacit current
Kill the lich spoiler
WOO milestone reached
honest nymph
grats
nova night
does it unlock any new lore
tacit current
hard to say
There is more in the northern wastes but progress there was stagnating hard for me
Genesis itself doesnt unlock anything directly as far as I know
tacit current
Absolute shitpost of an idle
https://store.steampowered.com/app/4280420/Toilet_Paper_Idle/
toxic cradle
I'm getting painfully close to a fully surveyed world
raw gazelle
what game is that Sand?
toxic cradle
raw gazelle
ahh that one, gotcha. I hope my computer still has my save, heh
toxic cradle
I'm getting painfully close to a fully surveyed world
I get this close, and there isn't anything I can currently do to raise it up to 100%, I need 27.5% of a single percent left and I can't get it >:(
nova night
I just about beat the game I just need to work out a plan
honest nymph
should be one more map to survey then
toxic cradle
I know exactly where I'd need to do it, but I also know I cannot get there for a while
honest nymph
gotta save up money? 🙂
toxic cradle
:(
I was hoping that maybe the 2 maps for 1 would just solve that issue that I had in the back of my mind, but it just so barely didn't
Since other than a couple times near the beginning of the entire world survey, I pretty much made all my maps go into the 2 for 1 deal
and those couple times in the beginning really could've ruined this for me
toxic cradle
The thing that annoys me about what I'm doing is that it's going to take forever, but it will give me the money I need immediately, but I will also have to do it twice since everytime you go to a new area, you unlock it but can't do anything with it upon unlock
I have a lot of time for this loop, and I am spending it on a way to make immense amounts of money, although I'm pretty sure this is the fastest way to make money
toxic cradle
Unlocked the final area, had it at 97% surveyed before even touching it, shouldn't take long to finish that, but the next step I see will certainly take a while
Although that next step should also be the final step
If I play my loops right, it should probably only take an exact 1000 more loops from here
honest nymph
woo 39 resets finally seen the kill the lich box, now to save enough momentum to off the bugger :p
tacit current
tacit current
I just realized that Santorini has a third location
I always thought that Astrape was the plateau being described
tacit current
Where do you think I was when I got vaporized? 
was trying to figure out why I was still getting santorini start of run messages still
my save file so old I didn't even know when it started showing me that message every loop
honest nymph
gah ||there are 2 paths to pneuma depending on which side of the dam your on, one doesnt let you bring your rover in|| 😛 new teraformental earea
unique swift
honest nymph
message otw to pneuma
honest nymph
theres another change, ||pre patch you just needed to get the codes from asterape, now you need more codes from the platau in santori||
boreal thicket
i had to take a break for Strabo because getting there really pissed me off ...
tacit current
kinda same, but was more having to manually remember the order I want to use to reach Strabo
taking breaking between updates and in general isn't good for this kind of game
honest nymph
son of a...
boreal thicket
Dont i know it ... Happens to me regurally lol
honest nymph
heh the teraformental map is getting beeg
honest nymph
got im that time
was nerve racking watching the timer increase every time worry leveled :p
karmic juniper
Nicely done
karmic juniper
was nerve racking watching the timer increase every time worry leveled :p
Important reminder: there IS a cap to the speed debuff
So you theoretically eventually could have just waited it out
Depending on how close you were.
toxic cradle
Finally, I no longer have to spend hours in a forest, I have enough interest to cover the costs for what I need, reducing the IRL time to complete from nearly 8 hours to 10 minutes
honest nymph
grats
