#Heresy? HERESY?! [Warhammer + 40k]

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wispy pilot
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its first come first served

dense isle
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TO SAVE OUR MOTHER EARTH FROM ANY ALIEN THREAT!

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Wait don’t we have a command for this?

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!edf

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…..

rotund moon
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Hang on

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@covert sigil oi rustbucket

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!edf

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Damnit I thought that would work

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Since it wasn't in the thread it wouldn't recognize the command

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But no he just stoopid

dense isle
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Rip

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But yeah the EDF with the imperial guards resources would probably win.

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No spacies required

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Especially against the tyranids. The EDF know how to deal with hyper adaptive bugs.

rotund moon
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Never introduce EDF r&d to a tech priest

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I don't know who would have the stroke first

dense isle
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Yes.

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I’m fairly certain they’d both try to kill each other then fall in love.

solemn mason
shell wind
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Been loving the parry build. You can no-hit a DH without dodging, and you can even parry THE OVERHEADS FROM CRUSHERS AND MAULERS.

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The only things I cannot parry are bursters and nets/dogs.

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I am even immune to packs of ragers, which is nuts.

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Although the new class isn't what it could have been, gameplay at least seems solid. Hoping the chem talent build is as absurd as builds like parry lol.

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OK IT GETS CRAZIER

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With good pathing, I was able to kite FOUR plague ogryns for 5 minutes.

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Then I got stuck on a box and shoved into a corner.

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SOMEHOW

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All three of my squadmates died to basic mobs while I was doing the kiting of four plagies, AND ALSO THE OBJ.

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The build is supposed to work best with crit, but I wonder how a martyr build works with parry.

dense isle
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Sick.

shell wind
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Ok it's crazy with martyr build.

dense isle
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how crazy is crazy?

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like

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what you just described was already mental

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how does it get better?

shell wind
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Just kills things faster.

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And it doesn't matter that your on 1 hp, because you're parrying everything already.

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Except bursters, nets, and dogs ofc.

dense isle
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fair enough

rotund moon
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I need a good zealot build

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idek how to play these guys well

solemn mason
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Zealot has 2 good builds

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Martyr (Lower health* higher damage) and Crits on crits

shell wind
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Martyr is the harder build to play.

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Cus you on 1 hp basically.

solemn mason
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basically

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1 wound if we wanna be accurate to darktide

shell wind
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2 wounds, if you use all 3 slots.

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Which actually REALLY reduces the chance you get cleaved down with a martyr build.

rotund moon
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UGH.

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Do they have to reset every talent on every update?

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wtf

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They didnt even change them

chrome steppe
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Sadly they did

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Which is annoying

shell wind
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I mean annoying, but not anything major. If you've played recently for the most part you would remember your build(s).

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It's only a pain imo for returning players who've missed prior update cycles.

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Because now you have to take the time to learn what changed and make an entirely fresh build.

shell wind
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Huge one time premium currency discount in the bottom corner.

rotund moon
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oh dang, neat

shell wind
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$5.00 USD for the equivalent of ~$24.00 worth.

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About an 80% discount wow.

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And it begins.

rotund moon
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woo

shell wind
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I actually had to go work right after that screenshot lol. Has anyone tried the new class? What is the vibe?

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I am really only looking to try the chem tree.

solemn mason
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Zealeran the 2nd

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Feat. Strong DoT & Drugs

rotund moon
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darktide pulling numbers, competing with the big games Wanderhah

meager shoal
dense isle
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Imperial Fist. buddy.

except for like.... 3, two of which are MIA, Im fairly certain all living primarchs hate their legions.

tiny pike
dense isle
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I swear Gilly has on multiple occations thought his legion were a bunch of bumbling idiots and questioned how any of them survived without him.

citation: their fanatical belief in a training manual.

tiny pike
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Yes, but that's not hate. Just incredulousness at how stupid they are and yet somehow they survived without him.

dense isle
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fair

tiny pike
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(That "somehow" of course being GW picking favorites, but Girlyman doesn't know that because that's out-of-universe knowledge.)

dense isle
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(I mean even without GW picking favorites canonically they have some of the safest systems to defend and that was BEFORE GW hired a dude who loved the blueberries way too much)

tiny pike
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(Counterpoint: One of the Hivefleets literally beelined straight for Blueberry systems.)

dense isle
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(counterpoint: the hive fleets are trying to devour EVERY system, just because some people got their present early doesnt mean everyone else isn't getting theirs too)

tiny pike
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(Sure, but having a hive fleet actively knocking on the doors of core Blueberry territory isn't really what I'd call "safe systems".)

dense isle
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(It was safe before those idiots touched a thingy durring the heresy)

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like necron tech is literally a giant glowing sign of "DONT TOUCH IT"

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and yet

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HERE WE ARE

tiny pike
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How were they supposed to know there was Necron shit on the world? It's not like literally every world in the galaxy is just straight up a coin toss on if it's got Necron shit or Eldar shit.

dense isle
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well back in the day if the nidds avoided said world, you knew to avoid it too.

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nowadays GW retconned that because they're assholes

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so

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I dunno

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chuck a tyranid at it still and if Trazyn rolls up probably a Necron world. although even then 50/50

tiny pike
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Trazyn might still show up because he wanted to collect some Pre-fall Eldar shit.

dense isle
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as I said

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50/50

tiny pike
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Or because he wants some new Spacies for his Spacie displays.

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Or because it's a Tau world and he wants some of the Tau Gundams.

dense isle
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the tau do have some very interesting technology

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not good technology

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but interesting

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its quite a wonder how they developed in isolation to the rest of the galaxy

tiny pike
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One of the better Warp-related FTL methods. Skipping on the top rather than diving in deep.

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And also another FTL method that's still in use by them for their Colony Ships that's way slower but doesn't rely on the Warp.

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It's just straight up normal FTL from any other franchise.

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If they don't want to, they don't have to deal with Space Hell.

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They could just completely ignore Space Hell if they wanted to.

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The only other people that can do that are the Necrons, Eldar and Dark Eldar, and they don't have the knowledge of building more of the Warp Gates, Webways, or Webways respectively. The Tau still have the knowledge for building the non-Warp FTL.

meager shoal
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suprised traz hasnt collected some of the bigger titans yet 😛 or anniahalus

tiny pike
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Obviously he hasn't due to not being able to fit them in his pockets. :P

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They're too big for his pockets, so he can't collect them. :P

solemn mason
shell wind
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AH DAMNIT

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That’s fire.

rotund moon
dense isle
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dear god

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I forgot how big primarchs were.

tiny pike
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Literally had to cut him in half at the waist in order to fit him in the house.

dense isle
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eh he'll live. he's survived worse.

tiny pike
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Survived committing an entire Heresy, in fact.

dense isle
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until papy got upsetty.

tiny pike
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I mean, Horus is the entire reason papy is stuck as a corpse on that golden chair.

dense isle
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true, but thats also because old papsy wasn't trying until Horus stabbed him really hard.

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and then, as mentioned, papy got upsetty.

chrome steppe
tepid tundra
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Nagash, the great necromancer himself. Long whispered about in the darkest corners of the lore, he returns with one goal: to drown the world in undeath.

Lords of the End Times — the next DLC for Total War: WARHAMMER III — is coming Summer 2026.

━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━

Microsoft Store: https://www.microsoft.com/...

▶ Play video
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i guess its finally time

vague gust
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Woo nagash is real now

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Wonder what two lords they will release along side him since they always release them in 3s

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They also did say they will keep adding more past nagashs pack,

solemn mason
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my thoughts on Hive Scum after 20~ levels

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fun, to be sure. still conceptualy boring

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not exactly a replacement for any class

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they dont have very good AP in the ranged department but the crowbar passes more or less

shell wind
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100% the only unique thing they have gameplay wise is the chem build. That’s where it’s at imo.

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It differs enough from the warp fire psyker build too.

dense isle
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What I don’t understand is…. Why?

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Like

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Did anybody…. Want this class?

shell wind
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No, but Fatshark didn’t want to build a new animation skeleton and the next best thing thematically were the hivers.

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Over another abhuman I mean*

vague gust
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Also funny thing about the nagash reveal there’s been a nagash mod that does incredibly similar things to what they showcased in the stream today which is really funny

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But also was guaranteed to happen since mod is based off the same lore

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With the types of units he gets unique undead etc etc

dense isle
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also "Hive Scum" is such a broad term that covers THOUSANDS of cultures and TRILLIONS of people in the imperium that distilling it all down into a crummy steriotype is extremely destructive to the lore.

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we coulda had a corpse grinder Hiver, we coulda had a dude from the upper city, we coulda had someone from a clan.

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instead we got generic distilled mad max idiot.

tepid tundra
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so we got tech gang etc skins

dense isle
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That might legitimately happen

tepid tundra
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cause yeh i want my van saar skin!

dense isle
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I just wish we got a corpse grinder character

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You will be turned into soilent green. Do not resist.

tepid tundra
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though i think i will have to reinstall the whole game cause i have a shit ton of space but it keeps stopping at the very end saying there is no space

dense isle
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Rip

solemn mason
dense isle
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Wouldn’t that be funny

tiny pike
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GW making a smart choice? Inconceivable.

tepid tundra
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i was recently rewatching smiling friends towards to the new season

meager shoal
tepid tundra
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wait are those dark angels

vague gust
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Impossible

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Where’s my ravens

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Also just got my ass beat my khorne while playing as sayl

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Norsca is fun until the local demons decided to unilaterally beat your teeth in

tepid tundra
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there in there but im also seeing dark angels which is crazy

meager shoal
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white scars? armor looked white to me, and will the mechanicus be a seperate faction i wonder

meager shoal
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ignore me, didnt notice the decal on their armor

dense isle
solemn mason
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this marks the 2nd time in the LIFETIME of darktide where there have been free aquillas

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and the currency was free from the start in vermintide but fatshark'll just ignore that tidbit

solemn mason
runic cipher
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Hey, question

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Rumbler or Kickback?

ebon spruce
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Heavy Stubba

runic cipher
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Too much focus, like smashing things with big club and shield. Least right now. Especially since it protects me from bullets. I usually use the shovel or the power maul.

solemn mason
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they serve different purposes

runic cipher
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Admittedly I feel like I probably still have weapons to unlock cause the Rumbler is my most recent so

solemn mason
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outside of marks which need mastery i think most weapon unlocks end at around level 18

dense isle
solemn mason
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ogryn has one, maybe, percision weapon

dense isle
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give my man a giant handcannon "precision" weapon

solemn mason
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and thats the single barrel stubber. with potentialon the 2 grenade launchers but those take a sec

runic cipher
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And I've just remembered I haven't gotten the grenade gauntlet. Because the game seems to think I really wanna use the club melee weapon or the twin-linked stubber.

solemn mason
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ogryn has like, 6 melees and 6 ranged option, not including the marks

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3 different clubs, 3 different knifes, 3 heavy stubbers...

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he had it rough for a while

runic cipher
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3 heavy stubbers? Are ya counting the one with a burst fire or..?

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And yeah, the only thing he's got recently is Saltzpyre's voice.

solemn mason
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3 twin linked stubbers my bad

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the rapid fire one

runic cipher
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Yea. The game keeps giving me purples of that..

runic cipher
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The Rumbler feels a bit funner to use, but probably just cause it's fun to donk it on someone's dome.

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It's very ammo hungry though..

chrome steppe
runic cipher
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I have tried out the club for a match and it feels pretty nice for crowds with all the sweeping it does. Though no safety from guns..

north hedge
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Still a working in progress

tall rivet
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Space king space king

shell wind
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It's amazing.

tepid tundra
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yep i havent gotten round to it yet

dense isle
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@tiny pike

tiny pike
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His constant bickering with Orikan is one of the few actively engaging things for him to look forward to.

hexed shuttle
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I have found a hive scum build that feels like Khornes dumbest berserker

tiny pike
hexed shuttle
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Nah this is extra brainless

tiny pike
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So, Khorne's extra average berserker? Lofty

hexed shuttle
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Sure

shell wind
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30 get

dense isle
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nice

tepid tundra
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i understand none of this cause i had to uninstall the game and find a time to reinstall cause the update last bit was being shitty with me

north hedge
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My flagship is almost done

solemn mason
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I will never stop hating randoms

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had to do the last 2 3rds of the mission with just myself and a friend'

dense isle
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Oh boy!

ebon spruce
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First rule of pub: Never trust pub people

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You learn it hard way

shell wind
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Yah, you have to get good enough to pretend like they're not there.

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And just do everything likes its only you doing it.

solemn mason
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is it too much to ask for a smidge of competance?

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god i sound like guilliman i bet

rotund moon
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Two hive scum (me+rando) both with the rocket launcher, we just one-two kaboomed a chaos spawn

ebon spruce
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Shroud Thammer Zealot in a corner: Amateur's

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Still funny you can nuke em i guess with rocket

rotund moon
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funny gun

shell wind
tepid tundra
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cant wait to try the rocket launcher i just be insane for most of it by not actually putting points in till im maxed out

solemn mason
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it having a reasonable blast radius for a rocket launcher is very nice

solemn mason
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started playing a chem heavy build, super leaning into the stim pistol

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this is straight up busted

dense isle
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thats

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uhhh

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hold on I have a song for this

solemn mason
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Literally

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I always had at least 20 needle pistol shots

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Its one downside of low-ish ammo for high DoT

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And i can just kill an elite and get 2 mags and some change

solemn mason
dense isle
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Why thank you.

urban flint
runic cipher
meager shoal
vague gust
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I’m hyped for it but it’s probably going to release either December next year or later

tall rivet
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Isn't the total war guys kinda not doing so good right now?

tepid tundra
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im staying out of that cause i have no idea and could be hearsay for all i know

vague gust
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Also imma just play the fun game and ignore the bullshit

urban flint
dense isle
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Neat

ebon spruce
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Mhm figures

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Water cartel pretty much because....well we know em more in DT

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Only 154k characters created huh

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Pretty much tells how much dlc was got

dense isle
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Probably

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Each DLC was what? 12 bucks?

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So

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1.85 million bucks or so? Ish?

ebon spruce
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I feel Arbi had much bigger sales

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While Scoom is fun and all

dense isle
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It was a lazy class that didn’t really add anything

ebon spruce
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It have something over vet

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Free ammo

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And chem

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And melee shtic you dodge or you die. You more paper compare to funny enough....psyker

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Like you cant take hits at all. Scoom dont have much on DR front from talents

dense isle
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Fair

ebon spruce
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I just generally enjoy as bullet go brr class

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For horde-elite cleaning

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Vet is more specials team support via shout class

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Like dont get me wrong. Scoom have place in team

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But cant fully replace any class

tepid tundra
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im only using knives and SMGs cause thats what the base build gave me

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once ive maxed out my character and the masteries for them im moving on

solemn mason
dense isle
# ebon spruce But cant fully replace any class

It’s absolutely unique and it has its place it just.

Like.

I dunno there’s just other stuff I wish I’d seen as the second ever new class rather than “regular person again”.

I hope we get a Corpse Grinder class in the future. Or a ratling.

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Anywho

solemn mason
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And drug time also gives about 20% DR to all

tepid tundra
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cause i just want my necromunda skins

dense isle
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Corpse grinders aren’t necromunda! They’re a GALAXY WIDE THING!

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And they’re EXTREMELY DIFFERENT from skav!

tepid tundra
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and visually we only see them in necromunda game stuff for now

solemn mason
dense isle
chrome steppe
tepid tundra
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well that and there are corpse grinder "normal" sized guys

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(granted the big guys are the cool ones)

dense isle
tepid tundra
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they could and i hope they never see it to get the idea in their head use "sanctioned" corpse grinders

tepid tundra
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cowards

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though they probably wanted to dynamic of vermintide had the little dude and darktide had the BIG dude

solemn mason
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Probably

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That slightly goes out the window when making your character too tall physically makes it impossible to take cover behind boxes

tepid tundra
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i just say shield

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i like to be funny and be lore accurate ogryn and just shield whenever bullets start flying even if it inconviences everyone

solemn mason
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Doesnt exactly apply to the 4 classes who dont get a shield.

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Psyker half counts

tepid tundra
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ive noticed that alot in games now with the covered not fully covering

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seems no one can get the gears of war level cover these days

solemn mason
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Its not really a "cover" system tbh

tepid tundra
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im talking bout in general how we always have our heads poking over the cover

north hedge
rotund moon
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New Horus model, banana for scale

dense isle
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Yes my child. The rats will rule all.

urban flint
vague gust
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Heh

meager shoal
dense isle
vague gust
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Yo anyone got some good tutorials on how to do 40k In TTS

urban flint
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Thought of a different TTS

dense isle
vague gust
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I’m using tortoise currently

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But his playlist is missing some videos

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And it’s half hard to be like these are core rules then not knowing how to deploy kek

dense isle
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So wait sorry are you trying to learn how to play 40K?

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Or are you trying to set it up in TTS?

vague gust
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Both

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Kek

dense isle
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Alright well I do have stuff for actually learning how to play 40K.

That other one….. good luck with the turtle.

vague gust
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Me and friend want to try the tabletop but also jot spend 19 billion GW bucks for a 1000 point army

dense isle
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https://youtu.be/s3xJudBU2dw

as long as it’s not time sensitive information (exact wording of models rules and model stats) they are good teachers. This is for the current edition.

Warhammer 40,000 10th Edition is finally here and we're so excited to show YOU how to play the game. Including the Core Rules and the contents of the Leviathan box set!! There's something here for beginners and veterans alike.

You can download the core rules from Games Workshop for free here:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/06/02/d...

▶ Play video
dense isle
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The toy soldiers get expensive

dense isle
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Anywho. Hope that helps.

vague gust
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The most I’ll buy is codex’s

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Beyond that no

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Kek

dense isle
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Oh right one important thing!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/downloads/warhammer-40000/

this is where you’ll find all current points and errata’s in the “munitorum field manual” and “balance dataslate” respectively.

Warhammer Community

Looking for the latest updates to your codex or battletome? Got a question about how something in your army works? Each of these FAQs contains all of the most up-to-date errata and answers you’ll need to make sure that your games run as smoothly as possible, incorporating feedback from the Warhammer community, the pl...

vague gust
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The what

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If you mean points per unit I just use a army build site that then auto scripts it into table top simulator

dense isle
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Theres downloadable PDFs

vague gust
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Ooooh

dense isle
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One of them contains points, one of them contains errata’s.

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Just a thing to know about to double check things.

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If the website you have does that already, groovy.

vague gust
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What’s a errata?

dense isle
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Changing wording, rules, or stats.

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Essentially these were physical published books. Due to balancing decisions those books now contain false information.

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The PDF tells you what it should currently say.

vague gust
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Ah new recruit just lets you build the army and its weapons and stats are already in there then the 40k army mod for TTS just uses a script to give the model you selected all that data

dense isle
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Example:

vague gust
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Ah yea all those get loaded into them and I can view it all

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Just need stuff to explain the funny words

dense isle
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Ah cool cool.

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That video I sent should

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Hopefully

vague gust
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If it does not I will never forgive you and time you out for a year
Wanderhah

dense isle
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Keywords you can find in the core rules cause there’s like 20+ of them, and I ain’t got time for that.

vague gust
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Yea if I got the pdfs I can slowly nip at them

dense isle
vague gust
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Like everyone does with a rule book no one reads the entire thing just very specific sections when they need to

dense isle
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I think it means my nidd it’s hitting a sick joint.

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I mean.

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I read everything at least once

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The issue is I only retained how to find the information

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Not what it was.

vague gust
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I’ll skim the parts I need

dense isle
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Oh and to note if you’re confused about something and can’t find the answer feel free to ping me and I’ll try to figure it out.

vague gust
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I’m going the funny gold people and the guard

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Yea

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Why I asked here cause I know atleast 1 person in this chat plays tabletop most likely in some form

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And I’m far to lazy to join a whole new discord and meet up with some random to have them walk me threw a game

dense isle
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Good news! You found the sucker who spent way too much money and finds fun in it somehow!

God my army suuuuuccckkkksssss this editionnnnnnn.

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Tyranids why

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Why did we have to be the big bad?

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Being the big bad is always the worst fate of a Xenos player because the first non good guy spacie codex always is terribleeeee

vague gust
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Lmao

dense isle
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OH NOW THAT LOADS

tepid tundra
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i still need to try custodes in that dawn of war mod

vague gust
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It’s fun

tepid tundra
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i only do it cause i know the group i play with will never enable it for space marines

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cause you know they dont want to be landslided

vague gust
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You know it won’t ever be played unless you set the ai to play it

tepid tundra
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yeh granted its funny daemon hunters just gets a psi titan

vague gust
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Also which mod

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Unification?

tepid tundra
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yeh i dont normally play it on my own cause eck excessive memeage but they started playing it so i got it

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im usually apocalyze or crusible

vague gust
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Apocalypse is good

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But it hasn’t been updated in years though

tepid tundra
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no seriously what the hell with some of the factions i tried in unification cause they were full meme and why for some of there stuff

vague gust
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And I know crucicible is the same team

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But different

tepid tundra
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emperors children can get primaris with jetpacks and gatling and you can only get them by harvesting dead bodies like dark eldar

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and they arent even super special either and you need to harvest more to even reinforce them

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no meter either for them so i dont even know if i have enough until it just lets me buy them

vague gust
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Uni is good and bad

tepid tundra
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i still need to get round to getting back apocalyze and crusible once i know they have properly implimented it into definitive and after waiting a bit after

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cause i like those versions better

vague gust
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Better balanced

tepid tundra
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also feels like there just focusing too hard on new factions and not the main ones

vague gust
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Also didn’t they say they aren’t going to the DE

tepid tundra
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i dont mind chaos marines being basic cause of how all the other chaos factions work but necrons is kinda lacking too

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i remember in crusible and apocalyze you could just straight up upgrade all your infantry to be stronger not just warriors

vague gust
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Yea the dozens of researches

tepid tundra
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oh no necrons were still basic for researches but at least theirs actually effectived everything not just a singular thing and nothing else

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ok i think apocalyze was going to definitive from what im reading not sure bout crusible yet

vague gust
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I remember crucible devs saying they don’t like definitive and said they will never port and actually even suggested against buying it

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Also apocalypse does have a DE version of their mod up btw

tepid tundra
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yeh i saw that crusible im not sure yet but i have been seeing it mentioned as if it was working but i havent fully looked into it yet

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probably till after my group dies down when they are ever done with unification

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cause i love my crusible/apocalypse aeonic orb burning an entire region

vague gust
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Same

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Also wouldn’t be surprised if crucible team chilled out after a while

tepid tundra
#

apparently unification aeonic orb seems very weak

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granted i was melting baneblade tanks

vague gust
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I just remembered them having a extremely negative view on the definitive edition

tepid tundra
#

but someone fired it at an imperial titan and the orb didnt do much

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but i was assuming its shields were helping protect it

vague gust
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Uni has a lot of problems

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It’s a good mod when it’s not being a mess

tepid tundra
#

also why i feel there neglecting the base factions a bit

vague gust
#

Like the Easter egg of a farseer could jsut be a frieren model is funny and in imperial guard squads Roy can get the felnids

tepid tundra
#

though chaos marines does seem fine so far to me cause well its nice to have something basic for chaos while they still get stuff

vague gust
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Then they kept doing more memes

tepid tundra
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i told my store guy bout how i was playing world eaters though fun the chaos lord was talking bout hating the khorne flakes joke

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AT LEAST THEY CAN MAKE PRIMARIS WITH OUT EXTREME ISSUE TOO!

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i only need to make a special lord then BAM i can pump them out but emperors children one is so weirdly complicated and hard to see if im ready to make them or not

vague gust
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this is why i say if your adding units just stick with the reqisition. power, and relic point system

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adding more just causes issues

vague gust
#

Yo @dense isle how does strategic reserves work is it just the half of the army that I didn’t want to play turn 1 I can deploy in my deployment zone during my second turn and so on?

dense isle
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its a little bit more than your deployment zone IIRC.....

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hold on lemme. lemme find the rulebook

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okay yeah so strategic reserves is kinda like worse deep strike although available to all units. you can set up up to 6" away from any board edge and must be at least 9" (horizontally) from any enemy units. additionally you cannot set up in the enemies deployment zone.

vague gust
#

Ok cool

dense isle
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and you can do it in at the reinforcements setp of your movement phase (which I think is the end?) second battle round onwards.

vague gust
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Wanted to ask because I know you allowed to not put your whole army in on turn 1 so was curious how it worked

dense isle
#

yeah. 25% of your army max.

most of the time its really not worth it. but theres some edge cases where you might want it.

vague gust
dense isle
#

my core armies dont have a ton of deep strikers or strategic reserve uses so I dont know the rules very well myself.

vague gust
dense isle
#

you could. theoretically. maybe.

vague gust
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All I know is space marines can deep strike everything

dense isle
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for the most part yeah

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yall have a lot of deep strikers

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which follows different rules from strat res.

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better rules

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well ish. depending. edge cases and what not.

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oh right and if you dont use them by the final battle round those units are DEAD.

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oh no wait I forgot an important thing sorry

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in battle round 3+ its 6 inches from any board edge, including your opponents DZ now.

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(prior 9 inches from enemy models still applies)

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Here’s the page I’m literally reading from if you need more.

vague gust
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Thank

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Also I assume the faction pack PDFs that GW lets you download aren’t completely up to date
Just making this assumption because GW are greedy

dense isle
#

that is a good assumption.

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it may or may not be true but to be completely honest if its not the field manual or the erattas it is best to assume that stuff is probably not current.

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*if the faction has a codex

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if the faction doesnt have a codex their online stuff is their only rules so that will be up to date.

vague gust
#

It is tempting to buy a actual faction codex just because I think a pdf of that isn’t as expensive as their drugs

dense isle
vague gust
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lore accurate tyberos

north hedge
vague gust
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baskilisk my beloved

rotund moon
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tww3: just bought the skaven DLC

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my fucking ratling gunners just arent shooting

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what the hell man

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ack

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tried againm

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got it working

vague gust
tiny pike
rotund moon
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yea i figured that eventually bash ahha

vague gust
#

Tww3 has some weird ai issues that just will never be fixed

rotund moon
#

still annoying

vague gust
#

And we just got to live

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True

rotund moon
#

anyway Im totally diggin tww3

vague gust
#

Nice

tiny pike
vague gust
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Their artillery yes

tiny pike
#

Yes they do. Ratling Gunners will happily shoot other Skaven in the back.

vague gust
#

Warp fire throwers rattling and jezlocks do not

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I mainly know this as just did skaven game with a friend and his units refused to shoot through his slave wall

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I do know they are meant to ignore that flag

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But again weird issues in sphagetti game

tiny pike
vague gust
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I think it’s just a bug in general

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As it was a consistent thing though the whole campaign

tiny pike
#

Lore accurate Skaven just see more targets, not friendlies.

vague gust
#

Yea but this is game

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And I know some people don’t like the skaven shooting their own unit mechanic

rotund moon
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nah my ratlings arent shooting in the back either

vague gust
#

Don’t may have gotten shadow patched or just bugged out

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Shadow patch then Kek

tiny pike
#

And the in game Skaven are supposed to act lore accurately, it’s literally supposed to be a design feature for the Skaven.

vague gust
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Seems it’s gone now though

tiny pike
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Then a recent patch probably broke the silly rat-things to make them not shoot other silly rat-things.

vague gust
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I wouldn’t be surprised if it was on purpose

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I know in 2 their was a button to click that made any missile ignore friendly fire, and skaven by default had it toggled to off, but in 3 it’s not a button

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Cause I only remember skaven doing it in 2 their few times I saw them in 3 the friendly fire wasn’t as bad and they got obstructed more, I also personally don’t like playing skaven I like dwarfs and orcs

tiny pike
#

Any time they weren’t firing was supposed to be due to some other blocker, like aim angle line of sight.

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I.E.: Ratling Gunners trying to shoot through a hill.

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Since Ratling Gunners aren’t allowed to aim up.

vague gust
#

Who knows

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I’m just going with it’s been patched away since 3

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Also ratlings are great anti air btw

dense isle
#

Ratling gunners are the perfect unit. Only us Ratlings. Death to all. Hail the great horned rat!

vague gust
dense isle
#

That’s more horrifying than normal.

@tiny pike you get to suffer this visage as well.

vague gust
#

FAT

rotund moon
#

I kind of want to see washed versions of other nurgle units

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Cleansed Marines

#

now im imagining a rolse-reversal AU of 40k where the 4 chaos gods are the Quadrumvirate ruling the imperium and Emps is the Chaos God

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but the 4 are like

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inverted

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So Nurgle is cleanliness, Slaanesh is Chasteness, Tzeentch is faithfulness, Khorne is... hm

meager shoal
#

khorne is budda?

rotund moon
#

yeah that works

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Or maybe athena-like, wisdom+war god

meager shoal
#

put those skulls back where you found them, be content with the skull you already possess :p

rotund moon
#

heh

tiny pike
dense isle
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I mean also Slaanesh is already Chasteness, excessive amounts of it.

WELCOME TO THE CHAOS GODS. THEY ALL ALREADY REPRESENT THEIR OWN MIRRORS! AHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAH!

tiny pike
dense isle
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Nurgle is a clean slate for life to regrow, to be reborn in a new grander image.

and Khorne is a zen master of the battlefield. a tactical genius at heart. an honorable soul.

dense isle
#

but it flows with grace and fluidity, rather than with gore and rampage.

tiny pike
dense isle
#

yeah. Khorne cant really represent his mirror very well because of the whole blood and skulls thing. but he represents the honorable aspects of warfare alongside the violence and bloodshed.

#

everyone else though can represent their mirror as they're less specced into specific thematics.

vague gust
vague gust
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Heh

rotund moon
#

videogame idea: 40k Titanfall, with T'au mecha Vs Imperial Knights

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throw in some eldar wraithknights too

urban flint
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Any game about Titanicus

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I’ll take Anything

dense isle
rotund moon
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I did say videogame

dense isle
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fair

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I just saw "game"

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and my brain shortcutted the rest.

rotund moon
#

I believe that is called a skill issue

dense isle
#

that it is indeed.

rotund moon
#

lol

vague gust
vague gust
dense isle
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sorry lemme be more clear

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Titanicus is its OWN miniatures game

vague gust
#

Yes

dense isle
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SEPERATE from the titans playable within 40k

#

Titanicus doesnt have a 10th edition.

vague gust
#

Hmmmm

dense isle
#

they have a "new" HH box though. (2018)

vague gust
#

I’ll see if TTS has anything for it Kek

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Also doesn’t the imperium only have like 10 titan models

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Direwolf warhound warlord then the 2 emperor class titans

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And the 3 before them have like 2-4 variants

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Psytitans exist as well but they fall under warlord

dense isle
#

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#

true titan titans?

I think imperium and chaos have like.... 3-4 each? of which.... 2 are playable in 40k?

I say playable as in "you could bring this in a 2K point game"

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the funny thing is I dont really keep track of the titan models line because uhhhh. nobody ever uses them.

vague gust
#

Warhound is best you get

dense isle
#

yeah

vague gust
#

Warlord is a 2200 hunted

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Past that it’s 3500

#

And imperator isn’t even stated Kek

dense isle
#

Imperator LONG AGO had a legal model

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but it got axed completely.

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not even legensed

vague gust
#

Yea it’s kinda dumb to involve it in normal matches

#

It’s just to much dakka for reasonable play

#

Make it accurate unkillable

#

Make it balanced no one would want to spend all 3000 points on 1 models to jsut have it munched by 2 shadow swords

dense isle
#

now if you DO want to play with titans and all the big silly stuff that 40K doesnt get to play with there is a table top game you can play, Legions Imperialis. its basically like true war game times. your models arent individual dudes, they're whole units, tanks, IMPERATOR TITANS.

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I say this as someone glancing at it from the sidelines going "I mean that would be a really cool model to have......"

vague gust
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GW doesn’t get my money for models

#

Not to be rude but I think their prices are WAY to high

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Some I get

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Like the titan and knight models I can understand those be hundreds

#

Those are huge

dense isle
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like okay, heres the starter set for Legion Imperialis.

theres two wardogs. two whole ass wardogs.

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warhound*

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not dog

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dog ist the knight

vague gust
#

But like the dreadnoughts being like 80

#

Theirs a titan called direwolf

dense isle
#

yeah buying single models is a suckers game. its. eugh.

vague gust
#

Smaller warhound

dense isle
#

nah those are hounds.

vague gust
#

Also honestly I see the appeal of legions but unfortunately I doubt it’s popular because I don’t know how many places would run it competitively

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No I’m aware those are warhounds

#

I thought you meant dire wolfs weren’t real Kek

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Also wardog is a chose armorer

dense isle
dense isle
vague gust
#

I still don’t understand how people can buy like 500 dollars worth of models the. Like 200 worth of paint
I could never

vague gust
#

Also if a 2000 point game takes 4 hours

dense isle
#

okay the paint I dont get but the models are. well.

look unless you own a 3d printer, or know someone who does, its. eugh.

dense isle
vague gust
#

A legions game would be DAYS

dense isle
#

nah.

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still takes about 4-6 hours

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sometimes less

#

different scale means different numbers means different optimizations.

vague gust
#

Honestly the only time I’d buy a model is if I could get them pre painted THEN they would get my mild consideration

dense isle
#

so Ill take it you dont like the painting process.

vague gust
#

I can’t paint

dense isle
#

I mean neither can I but its very relaxing.

vague gust
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Not good at art

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And if I spend 300 on a model I’d get Madge at my self for it not looking good Kek

dense isle
#

I mean. fair enough.

I've personally hit the point where I just. I mean Im worried about screwing up but I also stopped liking having grey guys on the table.

#

I dunno.

vague gust
#

Difference of preference

dense isle
#

I like these miniature games for the whole aspects, and I get that there are those like who who are there for the gameplay itself.

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I like making little toy soldiers and rolling number cubes. its all part of the joy.

#

on the topic of who runs LI, my local game store has a couple a guys who like it but theres nowhere near enough for a competitive scene. but Im certain it has events and people who like it. you just need to find it.

I mean it got big reveals and updates just this yea.... last year so. maybe one day it will hit mainstream.

vague gust
#

Oh yea played like 2 half games and it’s good fun

#

Also it’s a god send that the 40k people basically automated the process of building and scripting a army

#

Very nice

dense isle
#

We are on deeply different spectrums of the 40k scene, and I just. I find this very funny.

its interesting to have a hobby where the bredth of enjoyers is so wide.

vague gust
#

True

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Trust me I desire the funny plastic

dense isle
#

(part of the fun of 40k for me is going "what toughness is that? okay so thattle be a 4+...." etc etc.)

dense isle
#

its. its gross.

vague gust
#

It’s just I know I can’t give it the respect it deserves because of imperial greed

vague gust
dense isle
#

as an enjoyer, as someone who is in too deep, as a hooked core audience member with the sunk cost fallacy dripping out of my orifices, the funny plastic has gotten too expensive.

vague gust
#

It truly has

#

It’s funny seeing GWs 40k prices being like near the hundreds
Then looking at SW legions and seeing a ATAT at like 120

dense isle
vague gust
#

Or 200

dense isle
#

nah.

vague gust
#

Damn

dense isle
#

its kinda funny how Im like the one person left that doesnt own it.

vague gust
#

Heh

#

I just got it specifically for 40k

#

Because it lets me bypass the price tag

#

And also now me and friends can play other funny board games

dense isle
#

hell yeah

#

I shouldnt have looked at this Imperialis box. its TEMPTING MEEEEEEEEEE.

vague gust
#

Heh

#

fool

dense isle
tepid tundra
vague gust
#

Oh is it set in the heresy

#

If so makes sense

tepid tundra
#

zombies in the unification mod are funny

#

also the description just outright lies and says there cheap when there the most expensive starting unit in the death guard roster

rotund moon
#

Is there an actual way to check whether a missile unit can shoot over friendly melee

#

in tww3

meager shoal
#

googling says toggling fire at will off/on or manual targeting can get them to start firing but the ai appears to be a menace about it

#

or reajusting their formation :p

rotund moon
#

hooollllyy

meager shoal
#

thats a slaughter

rotund moon
#

literally to the last man

rotund moon
#

this guy just declared war on me and is apparently super OP

vague gust
vague gust
rotund moon
#

he kicked my ass

vague gust
#

yes

#

just wait until you fight archeon, kholek, vlad, or ungrim

#

they are stronger

rotund moon
#

how the hell

vague gust
#

lol

#

what faction

#

also your playing chaos something, you dont get to have a economy

#

that isnt fueled by war and raiding

rotund moon
#

honestly ive been getting ten turns into a dozen different campaigns, getting my butt kicked, and trying a different one

rotund moon
#

wtf do i do

#

the enemy is just parking their ass on the hill

dense isle
#

shoot them

rotund moon
#

they outrange me

#

because theyre on the hill

dense isle
#

embarassing.

#

well

#

good luck!

rotund moon
#

yeah Its just a fucking stalemate i guess

meager shoal
#

time to start building trenches and dig under them 😛

vague gust
#

AI won’t move until you shoot them

#

It’s a common problem

rotund moon
#

ugh

#

so annoyin

#

I lured them out and squeezed a win

vague gust
#

Yea sometimes in that situation you need to hit them in so form to make them move

#

I used the Calvary to force activate their ai Kek

rotund moon
#

I sent my pistol cavalry (what a wacky unit) to provoke em

vague gust
#

Works to

#

Also if you haven’t noticed some factions and lords are just better then other and some are just bad

#

Daniel is one of those lords who’s firmly sits in the “he’s ok” category

rotund moon
#

uh

#

daniel?

vague gust
#

Oh you don’t know the joke

#

No name demon prince

#

The one you get to name if you choose in lord select

#

Think his faction is demons of chaos or something

rotund moon
#

ah right

#

yeah

#

i quit that one he sux

vague gust
#

Yea Daniel is kinda ass

#

He only gets kinda strong at the very end of the game

#

If you want power fantasy your lords are ungrim, archaeon, kholek, and a few others like dechalla and vlad

rotund moon
#

are those the top tier ones?

vague gust
#

Yes

#

The ones I can confirm can solo your entire game are ungrim and archeon

#

Ungrim gets damage resistance 50% with just his unique gear and can get another 20 form a cheap rune, and nonstop health regeneration from 300 oath gold and beer

#

Archeon is just barrier regen, strong melee, and has one of the best spell list in the game, and with all his gear just can’t die

#

Dechalla is a new one she’s good because she can use two weapons and by default is just a infantry blender can’t solo the world like those two but definitely will carry fights

#

theres many other lords that are good like vlad whose gear doesnt by default make them one man shows, but their passive buffs and such to units make their personal army good

#

think helmann gorche can just make zombies unkillable with his skill tree, his mount, and the 4-5 researches that buff them
like you just cant lose it will take 40 minutes minumum but you will win

#

also tamurkhan is one of the most annoying lords i have ever fought

dense isle
#

at least its not the wild hunt storming in and roflstomping your army because you were slightly too close to a tree.

#

gad damned trees. evil things.

#

evil.

vague gust
#

wood elve are also annoying

dense isle
#

yeah reasonable.

urban flint
tepid tundra
#

screw it ill just be insane again and start pumping out new model showcases

tepid tundra
#

not gonna lie i never realized the new necron character was so large

vague gust
#

He big

rotund moon
#

Ork Factz

vague gust
#

I love ork facts

#

Just wonder when the ork book will come out that talks about the orks fighting angron because of him killing yarrik

tepid tundra
#

never

dense isle
#

And the orks are (for some reason) not upset over his death

#

Because the writers are hacks

tepid tundra
#

to be fair i dont even think the legend of yarrick is as prevalent as people think among the orks

#

just the orks who fought at armageddon and any orks that spread from armageddon

#

cause seriously its spread through word of mouth as are all stories amongst the orks from Runtherds

rotund moon
#

balls.

tepid tundra
#

probably fine

rotund moon
#

lol cathayans from 5000 miles away demanded i give them money'

#

I said no and they declared war

#

sure ok good luck getting here

#

through the ongoing ork waaagh

tepid tundra
#

this is partly why im going to be enjoying both dawn of war 4 and total war 40k

#

one for small scale endless battle in a single engagement and the other for grand scale warfare

#

now we just need an age of empire esque fantasy or age of sigmar game

rotund moon
#

istfg, its impossible to make enemies come to you. The only valid strategy is charge recklessly

tepid tundra
#

would be funny if there was a taunt ability with commanders so they could just force an ai enemy to come to you

urban flint
#

Hah, I just got Total War too, I really should actually play it

tepid tundra
#

ive mostly been insane and playing skirmish here and there and probably only finally fully go wild with it when most or all of the DLC is out cause ive been slowly buying it as it came out

rotund moon
#

you only need DLC to play as a faciton

tepid tundra
#

i didnt stutter

#

im doing it

rotund moon
#

you can play campaign without DLCs

#

all of the enemies will be tehre

tepid tundra
#

cause you never know excluding bretonnia ill probably play any of them from pure whim

#

also its warhammer i like warhammer

#

and i will froth at the mouth if they ever finally released the rest of the beastmen characters

#

i want my moonclaw

#

but yeh chaos my beloved

spring flint
#

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vague gust
#

Ok

#

I like

rotund moon
#

"Bozz, we gunna crash into duh planet!"
"CRASH FASTER!"

vague gust
#

I love orks

#

They are such funny guys

rotund moon
#

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shell wind
#

A dual-universe warhammer survivors like?

solemn mason
#

they didn't kill him off screen like Chairon?

dense isle
#

if its off screen it didnt happen

#

and if it was on screen 50% chance it didnt happen.

meager shoal
#

he got better

rotund moon
#

its so dumb

dense isle
#

Wow.

#

Yeah GW really are stupid

#

And that writer is a hack.

rotund moon
#

my pet theory is that writer thinks vidyagames are stupid and has some bone to pick so he chose the popular game characters to be his expendables

dense isle
#

Honestly who knows.

#

Games Workshops track record with good and bad writers is a MESS.

#

Like it’s

#

It’s not even a coin flip

#

It’s some arbitraged nightmare

rotund moon
#

frankly I expect that absolute hack's one paragraph to be retconned the instant Space Marine 3 drops

#

cuz yes

dense isle
#

I mean if we’re retconning paragraphs there’s one I care about a little bit more.

rotund moon
#

he killed them in ONE paragraph

solemn mason
dense isle
#

The stupid bloody nonsense they did to the greyknights.

“We’ll force the emperor back on the throne”

Buddy. BUDDY. By reading and agreeing with that note you signed your own death warrant by blank backed Goldies.

#

Like it

#

I just

#

No. There is no such final order.

rotund moon
#

ah

#

terminus decree

#

the other recent utter laughstock

dense isle
#

The stupidest paragraph I have EVER READ outside of that one tyranid book that doesn’t exist

#

*in warhammer lore

dense isle
#

“What’s the demonculaba”

Well 1: you don’t wanna know.

But 2 if you do: ||chaos spacies had demons rape humans to try and create more of themselves among other horrific things.||

#

And it

#

It goes into detail for some reason

#

That writer…. Eugh. He had issues.

solemn mason
#

Very much so

dense isle
#

Actually wait. Idea.

It’s the terminus decree because the emperor wanted Cassius Beli to terminate the GKs.

#

Casus beli?

#

Reason to war.

rotund moon
#

casus belli

dense isle
#

Thank you.

rotund moon
#

👍

#

ive been playing too many war games

dense isle
#

Mayhaps

tepid tundra
dense isle
#

It’s why I try to pretend everything not on necromunda is fanfiction. Necromunda lore is really good.

tepid tundra
#

cause people always talking bout stuff and im forced to be "what book what page?" cause fuck trying to find info in novels when in discussions

#

its like twitter and reddit people always ready to believe the word of a stranger

#

baffles me

dense isle
rotund moon
#

i get most of my lore from tubermans like bricky

dense isle
#

I mean I already did that but this gives my brain an easy shortcut.

dense isle
tepid tundra
#

para i still remember doing this

#

when a friend of mine brought up the ima tank thing as if it was genuine lore

rotund moon
#

the what tank

tepid tundra
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bricky made up a story in one of his videos bout guard just holding a gun and saying bang and an ork dies

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then the orks in the story just picked up some other orks and kept saying ima tank and it worked

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but it was all made up and people started spreading it as fact

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basically its a major player in making things worse with the "ork belief power"

dense isle
meager shoal
dense isle
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Ork belief can do a lot but. Not that much.

tepid tundra
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cause the waagh fields main purpose is literally to make orks more aggressive and make all there odd boyz go wild with inspiration

vague gust
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The best and worst apart about warhammer is thar all the stories are effectively just “short” stories that play into the wider narrative, it sucks because writers dont communicate just get told write a book then ends up in this infinite cycle if retcons and horrible writing when a author doesnt know how to handle the characters they were given and just kills those ones off

tepid tundra
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hence mekboyz go wild and make guns tanks and ships and they go space traveling to war

tiny pike
rotund moon
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same circumstances as star wars EU

tepid tundra
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it was funny cause i literally recited the ork codex on the ork waaagh field mainly made orks riled up and i was getting downvoted hard, i even said this was from the ork codex material

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at least i knew how many people actually didnt read ork material based on the downvotes

rotund moon
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tbh

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i dont engage with 40k outside of memes and videogames

tepid tundra
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video games still actually teach you stuff though to be honest

rotund moon
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probly the most accessible way to get into warhammer

vague gust
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yea trying to do IRL tabletop warhammer is financially just not a good idea since a 2000 point army is like $400-1000 depending on faction

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so playing the games or just using tabletop sim is your best bet to not spend a mortgage amount of money on this

dense isle
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+tax

vague gust
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2k points no shot

dense isle
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Yes shot.

vague gust
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1k maybe

dense isle
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Bash

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I’m gonna get the video

vague gust
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thats a patrol

dense isle
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Oh no wait

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Lmao

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Yeah sorry it’s like 300 bucks.

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For 2k Custodes

vague gust
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ok i can believe that if its exclusively infantry

dense isle
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Basically that and bikers.

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Sorry I forgot about price increases and how GW prices things

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Basically though, as long as it’s not generic vehicles, you can build most Custodes lists of your dreams for fairly cheap at MSRP.

Don’t buy at MSRP though. Find eBay listings, Facebook marketplace, an LGS with a discount, Xmas value boxes, etc.

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Anywho yeah that’s the cheap end. Other armies are. Well. Uhhhhh.

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Good luck.

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Good video on the topic

rotund moon
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yeaaa

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warhammer tabletop is expensive and uh

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Honestly I dont see myself enjoying painting all the minis

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so ive never looked much into it

vague gust
dense isle
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I like the building and painting

vague gust
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I wonder if you can run a custodes army with a stormlord or other baneblade as a allied unit

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Hmmmm

dense isle
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Uhhhhhh maybeeee?

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Allying is weird this edition

urban flint
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Has anyone ever written a 40k x Age of Sigmar Crossover?

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I feel like someone must have, right?

rotund moon
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undoubtedly exists on fanfic websites

indigo sparrow
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The Skaven, most likely

vague gust
rotund moon
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50% casualties
decisive victory

Ahh, skaven

vague gust
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they were all slaves

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so even better victory

dense isle
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no we did lose a single ratling gunner, and for that, we will not stop until their crops are mulched and their cities are ash.

I mean we were gonna do that anyways buuuuuttttt......

rotund moon
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No the gunners were fine

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It was slaves and clanrats that ate it

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So no big deal

dense isle
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ah okie fair enough

tiny pike
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One of the Ratling Gunners did stub their toe, though, so we should still mulch their crops and ash their cities. :P

urban flint
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Mmm yes, 500 worlds

vague gust
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Lmao

rotund moon
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second attempt at skaventide is going much better

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beat up a dumb french idiot who thought she could bully me and Settra is making diplomacy with me

rotund moon
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I think I solved the econ problems I had last time

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and im sending some rats on a crosscontinental expedition

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well well

vague gust
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Settra does not serve

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Settra rules

rotund moon
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Settra loves my crazy rats

dense isle
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Setra? Enjoying something that’s not himself?!

rotund moon
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See the +74 relation score

dense isle
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Damn

rotund moon
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I'm helping him win a war against the carstein vampire counts in not-africa

dense isle
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Ahhh yeah. Those guys suck.

rotund moon
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Vladdy has a dragon

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It didn't save him

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Doomstack of ratling gunners go brrrrt

north hedge
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Finally got around the painting the Warhammer open model I have

rotund moon
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Apparently my skaven are not immune to their own plagues

rotund moon
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EHEHEHEHHHEHEH

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GO MY RATS

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I like these numbers

tiny pike
tepid tundra
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its not even the science rat making the plagues

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its some random hobo rat coughing up phlegm over some stirring pot

tiny pike
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Doing very important science by coughing over that stirring pot.

rotund moon
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glory to the skaven over-empire

dense isle
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RATS MUCHLY GOOD YES YES!

dense isle
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(for now is the bit of phrasing Im worried about, but, at least they arent jumping right into the deep end.)

vague gust
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Wow

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Im genuinely impressed

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John warhammer actually had some intelligence and desire for money left

tiny pike
solemn mason
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Incredibly rare James Workshop W

vague gust
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I still dont want to give them the W but i know of they dont get good praise from this they wont learn

dense isle
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Yeah

solemn mason
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Credit where it's due, I won't be a total pessimist

rotund moon
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Naw they deserve the W from this one

tiny pike
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Like Vegeta says in the meme: It's a new feeling.
But it's definitely a deserved one.

tepid tundra
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oh by the way the dog next to the Tarellian is a Barghesi for those that know

tepid tundra
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they finally got archers and assassins

dense isle
tepid tundra
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honestly his got a nice helmet

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did you just make that?

dense isle