archived-modded-support

[fossil dirge]

the whole save folder or the individual ones

[late nebula]

However you want to do it

[fossil dirge]

oaky

OKAY

[late nebula]

Probably. I haven't used it so not sure how useful it is.

(ModDrop's manager was pretty disappointing for me, ngl.)

[fossil dirge]

wait um

do i move them or copy.

[late nebula]

Copy

We just want them to be somewhere else in case loading your game in vanilla has undesireable effects.

[fossil dirge]

is it ok if the steamcloud thing is still in the save file

that thing

[late nebula]

Should be fine if you want to use steam cloud.

[fossil dirge]

okay

hold on i need to go to the bathroom

[late nebula]

K

[fossil dirge]

okay so i open the vanilla stardew and then waht

[late nebula]

Load into your save. Play a day if you want. But mostly importantly, you need to sleep so it will save.

[fossil dirge]

okay

I don’t think it’s opening

[late nebula]

Did it show up in the Load screen

[fossil dirge]

no the application itself isn’t opening LOL

[late nebula]

Vanilla stardew?

[fossil dirge]

yes

my whole computer is lagging

[late nebula]

Maybe restart

[fossil dirge]

it might be opening

[late nebula]

Then try again. Might need to try uninstall and reinstall.

Okie

[fossil dirge]

oh file explorer isn’t responding

OH

ITS OPENING

help my pc

[late nebula]

Lol

[fossil dirge]

yup not there

what do i do now

[fossil dirge]

it didnt work

[gloomy kayak]

any idea, why JsonAssets is causing this Problem??

https://smapi.io/log/a28b494388234bef8d213d78f57eeea7

[fossil dirge]

anyone know how to fix this

[gaunt gust]

that's a corrupted save, revert to a previous backup

[fossil dirge]

how

[late nebula]

!saves info should be here

[native dragon]

Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.

[gaunt gust]

!reset

[native dragon]

@gloomy kayak See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! (This doesn't affect your save files.) You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)

[tall moon]

what does this mean

[fossil dirge]

where can i find them

[fossil dirge]

wheres the info i need

[gaunt gust]

!reset XNB mod installed incorrectly is my first guess.

[native dragon]

@tall moon See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! (This doesn't affect your save files.) You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)

[tall moon]

mk thanks

[gloomy kayak]

i did not change my XNB files o.O

[gaunt gust]

maybe they got corrupted? I'd still do a reset first

[fossil dirge]

thank u

the ones i want dont have the old ones

if that makes sense

is that why they arent working

[late nebula]

If you don't have previous saves, then we probably can't help you.

[fossil dirge]

oh alright

[late nebula]

If a save gets corrupted, that's usually the end of it unless some expert knows a better way to fix it.

[fossil dirge]

i think smapi has backup saves though of them

they dont have the old ones either

rest in peace my 400 hours

[gloomy kayak]

@gaunt gust that made it even worse:
https://smapi.io/log/a8d6dcef012a4d0e8cffb091f8d4a4b3
also reinstalled smapi with the same result

WTF? due to steam, the title screen could not load -.-'

[gaunt gust]

!startuppref

[native dragon]

@gloomy kayak If your resolution is messed up try deleting startup_preferences This can be found on Windows at %appdata% > Stardew Valley > it's in that folder, or C:\Users\Yourwindowsnamehere\AppData\Roaming\StardewValley or for Mac can be found at ~/.config/StardewValley To get here you'll want to go to your desktop, then in the menu bar select Go -> Go to Folder...

[gaunt gust]

well, at least it's a different error

[gloomy kayak]

... after reseting content ... it works ... as long, as i dont open steam

[misty thicket]

can someone help me look through a log file? https://smapi.io/log/d5313dde06264bd5b5421108198441e8

I have that malfunctioning sprinkler/scarecrow range display and can't figure out what mod it is

[past dome]

Can anyone help me i downloaded a couple of clothing and hair mods but i dont see them when I load the game ? Idk what to do im also new to the game.

[median silo]

having issues launching ahh https://smapi.io/log/0439e2183a09434db6a498c705ef16cc
any advice?

[gaunt gust]

!saves revert to previous saved

[native dragon]

@median silo Use this guide to find your save files: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.

[late nebula]

!log

[native dragon]

@past dome Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[quiet night]

If I delete a mod that adds new machine & recipes, and somehow I already received the recipes on how to do it in the mail, does it get removed or will it stay?

Because I’m playing with stardew progress and it keeps saying certain items are not found (because I already deleted them) but when I played in a new save, I didn’t get that

[late nebula]

I think those items are stored in your save file when you start the game. The top comment on the posts page of Stardew Progress talks about this very issue.

I'm not sure if there's any way to fix it though.

[quiet night]

Oh yikes

I should get perfection tracker and set the amounts of recipes I have in game

[late nebula]

You might be able to comment there and see if the author is willing to help you figure that out.

[quiet night]

Same goes with the crafting

[late nebula]

(This is part of the reason I am so hesitant to use anything that adds any recipes or items to the game )

[quiet night]

I have two saves right now so I keep playing between those 2

[late nebula]

Are you using mod groups or just using the same mods on both?

[quiet night]

The first save was when I added the mods but I removed it right after

[misty thicket]

okay, figured my problem mod out

it's OrSpeeder's Better Sprinklers mod

the overlay it provides is not scaling to my zoom level

[raven plinth]

Does anyone know if there is a mod which makes kegs make other types of alcholic drinks. Vodka for potatoes, Cider for apples, Sake for rice etc?

[astral plover]

doesnt starbew valley and/or champagne wishes add more keg usage? they do add more alcoholic drinks

[late nebula]

Starbrew is all cocktails

Champagne Wishes isn't quite what I think is wanted either

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/7094

No idea if that still works.

Or this one. https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6449

[misty thicket]

question

OrSpeeder's sprinkler mod has values in the config for RGB and A

RGB is obviously color

and I assume A is for"Alpha" meaning transparency

would higher or lower be the right way to increase transparency?

or is that on a per-modder basis?

[astral plover]

is there a reason why you cant just try it out?

with gmcm you can probably change it ingame and have it reloaded without reloading your game

[gaunt gust]

I would guess lwoer

[late nebula]

Same

But try it and see

[late nebula]

Not every mod sets up GMCM. I haven't tried that one so I can't speak to whether it has or not.

[astral plover]

i never said that it is supported. i used the word "probably" on purpose you know

[late nebula]

I was just giving you a possible answer for your question.

[astral plover]

what question did i ask

[late nebula]

This

[astral plover]

why they cant try it out?

just let them answer

[mild moss]

Hello my stardew valley does not appear to have a mod folder

[misty thicket]

so altering the variables seems to have done nothing

and there is in fact no GMCM support

I think the mod predates GMCM

[mild moss]

My stardew valley on windows appears not to have a mod folder, what do I do?

[astral plover]

then you havent installed smapi

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started

[mild moss]

I have

[astral plover]

apparently not

[mild moss]

thats odd

do I extract smapi somewhere?

[gaunt gust]

...yes And run the installer

[astral plover]

did you just put the downloaded folder/content somewhere or did you start it and install it?

go to the link i just posted and check if thats what you've done

[mild moss]

okay

thanks

attempting to extract smapi into stardew

[astral plover]

you can extract it wherever you want. extracting is not the same as installing

[mild moss]

installed

thank you for the help

[misty thicket]

okay nothing I am doing is removing the overlay that OrSpeeder's mod provides

it's not game-breaking but it is super annoying

[astral plover]

@uncut yacht if there's no red text in your smapi window and you dropped SVE into your mods folder, then it should work, yes.

otherwise just boot up a save and check the relations tab. if there's a girl with pink hair that you havent met yet somewhere, then its working.

[late nebula]

Yeah and I don't think it's going to get fixed unless someone does an unofficial update unfortunately.

[astral plover]

alternatively i can recommend the flexible sprinklers mod. it provides its own overlay and adds... well, flexible sprinklers that adjust their watering area depending on the hoed area they are adjacent to automatically

[uncut yacht]

Before I was getting lots of red text, as I was under the impression I had to copy things to the pertaining folders xD But now that I have it correct, I loaded up and everything looks good! My first indication was that the Joja dude was in my relationships list, lol.

[misty thicket]

that looks like it'll do what I want, thanks

[mild moss]

when the mod files are in the folder for mods, do I have to extract it or is that alright now

[misty thicket]

each mod should be in its own folder

[late nebula]

You do need to extract them.

They also need their own folder like bigboct said.

[copper parcel]

@gaunt gustwhy all pronouns accepted?

[mild moss]

ah

[copper parcel]

are you transgender?

[late nebula]

Sometimes mods extract without a folder so watch out for that.

[gaunt gust]

I'm not going to answer that question from strangers on the internet

Take the pronouns statement at face value: all pronouns are accepted. I reserve the right to object to obvious bad faith

[mild moss]

I see, can I extract the mod and then put it into the mod folder in stardew?

[late nebula]

Yep

[mild moss]

alright!

ty!

time to go fix that-

[copper parcel]

Thanks totally fine bro. If you don't feel comfortable with it

[misty thicket]

so how does the "cluster" watering mode work?

I'm not understanding the readme

[lavish marlin]

Alpha, with normal alpha blending, is opacity, not transparency.

[misty thicket]

okay, thanks for clarifying

regardless, editing the config did absolutely nothing

same color overlay, same opacity

okay, looking at the pictures helped for Flexible Sprinklers

so they will try to water any tilled soil up to the number of tiles indicated by the sprinkler type?

[scarlet spoke]

For Custom Producer Mod, how will the Worm Bin choose which of these to produce?

[astral plover]

cluster mode, from what i understand, first checks which sprinklers are connected to the same field (hoed spots that are connected to each other) and then distributes the work to water the field between them. the mod also offers other modes, including vanilla via its config (if you just want other components of it)

tho the overlay it provides works really well and lets you see how good your coverage is whenever you click on a placed sprinkler

[misty thicket]

that helps a lot, thank you

@astral plover

so here's another question

see the HP/Stamina numbers?

when I press the button to set where they appear, the cursor is where they SHOULD be

no idea why this is occurring

[dusk vessel]

Hey y'all, could someone help me out with my game not saving? I updated my Zuzu City mod, and then removed (then re-added) the Custom Music mod. Here's my SMAPI log: https://smapi.io/log/74a6d2bc80604797ae87b0fdaabd527f

[gaunt gust]

@placid orbit another mac user - same issue

[gaunt gust]

can you try temporarily removing TXMLoader?

[dusk vessel]

I'll do that!

[astral plover]

i'm using that mod aswell. what exactly is the issue? i dont think i quite understand. the button to move the hp/stam overlay doesnt work?

you could maybe make sure that its the right button that was set in the config. (add/subtract are buttons i set on my own, not the default ones)

[misty thicket]

the position of the mouse cursor is where I "dropped" the display widget

but obviously that isn't where it actually appeared

[quaint coral]

It's same

Couldn't loaded

[astral plover]

not sure how to fix that then. might be zoom level related, or windowed mode shenanigans. alternatively you could adjust the position via x,y coordinates.

(you can also hold down the move key and move the mouse aroundto see where it'll drop, i think)

[lapis sequoia]

is there a mod that shows u where the clay appears when you till making it easier to clay farm?

ive tried map predictor but its too complicated tbh

help

[scarlet spoke]

O any ideas

[opaque zealot]

how do you delete smapi
cause whenever i try to open Stardew its says oops smapi couldn't load the game executable please i rlly needf help

[misty thicket]

are you running via Steam?

[opaque zealot]

ya

[misty thicket]

check your launcher options

[opaque zealot]

how do you do that?

[misty thicket]

right-click Stardew Valley in your library, hit Properties

launch options are at the bottom of General

[opaque zealot]

then on the bottom of general it say launch options right?

[misty thicket]

right

[opaque zealot]

do i click on that

[misty thicket]

here is what mine looks like to launch SMAPI via Steam

you should just need to clear yours out

[opaque zealot]

ok thanks

holy thank you

it worked

[misty thicket]

awesome

[west bane]

hello! ive been struggling with modding

i downloaded the "better artisan goods icon" mod, but the sprites in my game didnt change at all

ive alr installed SMAPI, and there were no other requirements, so im not sure why it isnt working

[lament prairie]

You need content packs for it

[west bane]

is that another mod? @lament prairie

[dusty spruce]

pretty sure it should work right away, at least for vanilla items

!log

[native dragon]

Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[west bane]

https://smapi.io/log/5b0ee6fc5de04a1486c9714921c6ea91

[west bane]

that's what i thought 🥺

[dusty spruce]

not sure where you placed the mod, but it isn't where it should be

as the game didn't pick it up

[west bane]

im on mac, so i created a "Mods" folder in steamapps/common/Stardew Valley

is that the wrong location?

[dusty spruce]

that's not right, it tells you that in the log btw

10:05:28     INFO     SMAPI     Mods go here: /Users/rebekahbastiaan/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley/Contents/MacOS/Mods

[west bane]

sorry im computer illiterate

ok thank you

https://tenor.com/view/olsen-twins-thank-you-you-da-best-you-are-the-best-blow-kiss-gif-16197521

[dusty spruce]

(if you can't find it, it's because you have to right click / cmd+click the Stardew Valley app, then hit Show Package Contents)

[lament prairie]

I have three content packs for BAGI (you may not want all of them)

But checking their manifests/content, it does look like the main mod covers most vanilla items

[dusty spruce]

huh

[gaunt gust]

The Fix iirc is the 1.5 stuff

[dusty spruce]

this is how it looks for me

[gaunt gust]

pickled ginger and stuff like that https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9366

[lament prairie]

Oh I also have main BAGI too

It's just in my Framework subfolder

[gaunt gust]

Yeah, BAGI does the vanilla objects that existed in its day, Fix adds the 1.5 stuff

[dusty spruce]

are there different versions of BAGI or what

[gaunt gust]

BAGI accepts content packs for mod-provided items

[lament prairie]

oops I might have installed two things for 1.5 content 😂

[gaunt gust]

someone also did a content pack for the 1.5 stuff

[dusty spruce]

ah

[lament prairie]

BAGI in different subfolder, different from the content packs bc it's a framework

techhhhnically some of these aren't frameworks but it's tidier this way

[west bane]

OMG IT WORKS

thanks for the help guys

https://tenor.com/view/h3h3-h3-h3podcast-after-dark-h3-hila-gif-22610647

[dusty spruce]

no worries

[west bane]

oh what's the best recolor mod out there? will it work on a current save ?

[gaunt gust]

Depends a lot on what you want out of a recolor

[lament prairie]

there's no "best one", it's up to taste

They will work on current saves

Some of them are slightly out of date (may not cover 1.5 areas)

For discussing favorite recolors, #modded-stardew may get you better results, but if anything goes wrong, come on back here.

[west bane]

thanks @lament prairie

[lost storm]

Has anyone tried out the new Hidden River Farm map? I can't get it to work. I have content patcher and I have DaisyNiko's Tilesheets, which are the two required dependents but it won't show up when I create a riverlands map.

[lament prairie]

!patchsummary

[native dragon]

@lost storm Can you do these steps to provide more info?

1. Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
2. Type patch summary directly into the SMAPI window and press enter.
3. Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
4. Post the log link here.

[lament prairie]

A perusal of the content files shows that it should show up for Riverlands

[lost storm]

Do that while the game is running?

Ok where do I find the log file?

It's probably on the page huh

[lament prairie]

Yup, instructions on the website

[lost storm]

Should I log out of the game before I upload the log?\

[lament prairie]

Nope, you can upload while it's running

[lost storm]

https://smapi.io/log/5f53fcdf114840f295c8f492a4866763

Oh there are errors I didn't see before

Oh a big error for that map

[lament prairie]

Yeah....I feel like XML document error is especially weird here

[lost storm]

I'll post it on the mod page

[lament prairie]

Is this a new save?

[lost storm]

Yes

Only a week into the game

[lament prairie]

You may also want to post this on the Content Patcher page, to be honest, it may be a mod conflict because this is a weird problem? Edit: don't do this, I was wrong

Have you used Map Edit on the farm yet?

FeTK is old and will break vanilla mail

Use Mail Services Mod

[lost storm]

No I have not

[lament prairie]

You don't seem to be using Entoarox Framework for anything, so you can remove it most likely

[gaunt gust]

I see the problem

[lost storm]

Ok got rid of the map edit too

[gaunt gust]

That map has an absolute path in a tilesheet

Report to Nexus page, it's an easy fix

[lament prairie]

Oh, is that what that looks like? I had always seen the climbing directories thing before

[lost storm]

Just added that to the comment on nexus

Ok replacing fetk with mail services

So I guess it's pretty much a waiting game till the mod author sees it and can fix it

[gaunt gust]

If you want, open the map in vscode or notepad++

And remove all the C://.....etc

[lost storm]

I don't have either of those

[gaunt gust]

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\My Made Items\Erins Beach Farm Exp\Assets\zspring_daisyextras.tsx

Leave just zspring_daisyextras.tsx

Yeah both of those are free lol

[past forum]

is anyone using artisan valley

[lone dragon]

Is anyone else getting a terminate called after throwing an instance of 'PAL_SEHException' error on linux with smapi? heres a log if itll help, not even sure if it mentions it https://smapi.io/log/dc46c6e2827b4422a0e1f974ece66bbc

[lament prairie]

Doesn’t seem to be in the log

There do seem to be a lot of skipped mods, it might not be related but it might help to update them?

[lone dragon]

i tried that, still the same error

im currently trying to build libgdiplus and seeing if having that helps, SDV starts without smapi though

[gaunt gust]

If that doesn't work revert to smapi 3.13.0

And install dotnet 5 separately

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/install/linux

[lone dragon]

the installer for 3.13.0 doesnt seem to detect dotnet 5?

[spare relic]

My game likes to stop responding when I have mods

It will eventually load

But it takes awhile

[gaunt gust]

Hum. Does dotnet --info bring it up?

[lone dragon]

only shows 6.0.2

despite installing 5.0

[gaunt gust]

Hum. That explains why smapi's installer can't find it

Which flavor of.Linux?

[lone dragon]

Manjaro (latest stable)

[gaunt gust]

Does dpkg -L find...

Shoot not one I know.then :P

[lone dragon]

its arch based

[gaunt gust]

Maybe check to see if dotnet installed in a place listed in $path? (Should be how it searches)

Okay dpkg is also on arch, that's helpful to know

[lone dragon]

it does exist, but its for debian packages

of which i have none

debian and arch packages dont really play well

[gaunt gust]

Ah, okay

[lone dragon]

not even sure where this error originates, i think its just dotnet in general?

[gaunt gust]

Yeah....

The github issue I found says it should be fixed

But....I dunno

[lone dragon]

downgrading the dotnet runtime doesnt help

so im guessing is some sort of interaction between smapi and dotnet causing it to break?

[gaunt gust]

I was hoping that it was a dotnet/OS interaction

[shy orbit]

i don't think you need to have dotnet installed for smapi to work. at least i don't have it

[gaunt gust]

The game bundles.the dotnet it uses, and smapi uses that

Yeah. Usually

[lone dragon]

ill reinstall and see if that helps

[gaunt gust]

But when you get an obscure dotnet error trying to see if a version built.for your os....

[lone dragon]

see if its an issue with it being from a windows install to linux install

[gaunt gust]

Hum

[lone dragon]

nothing

[shy orbit]

have you tried to run it with the steam linux runtime? i don't know if it would do anything, but maybe

proton could work too (unless you're opposed to using the windows version)

[lone dragon]

ive been running it natively, i havent tried proton

im not sure how to change runtime versions for certain games in steam

oh there doesnt seem to be an exe to run

that complicates it..

[shy orbit]

the steam runtime option is in the compatibility options, same place as proton

[lone dragon]

same thing, just attempts to run and after a while it stops (with the steam runtime)

running through steam doesnt work, running it directly from the modding api exe just has an error and mentions dotnet core 5.0.7 not existing

[shy orbit]

is that with proton?

maybe tinkering with the wine library settings for dotnet could help, if it's possible. i think it's done with protontricks with proton. not sure. could also try installing specific dotnet to the "proton" prefix that steam uses for the game i guess

[lone dragon]

yea that was with proton, but im just gonna give up, its not long till rune factory 5 comes out and if i start stardew again itll just get forgotten when i get rf5

[loud linden]

Does anyone use the sleepover mod?

[placid orbit]

yep looks mac related :/

@dusk vessel did you try to save without TMXL?

did it work?

[jolly hazel]

@rugged charm are you using the unofficial version of ui info suite?

[rugged charm]

hmm?

no no i dont think so

wait

this one on nexus

[blazing gulch]

Still having the bfav problem TvT

[rugged charm]

idk if its official or not

[blazing gulch]

That one is official, ur gonna have to get the unofficial one on the forums

[jolly hazel]

if you type the mod name into https://smapi.io/mods, it should give you the link to the correct one

no need to go digging through the forums

[rugged charm]

oh ok thanks!

[blazing gulch]

Anyone active using bfav? My bfav keeps turning my dragons into white cows after i sleep

[rugged charm]

what do i do next ?

@jolly hazel

[jolly hazel]

do you see the link to the correct version?

[rugged charm]

ok so the green one ?

thanks!

[jolly hazel]

yep!

[rugged charm]

THANKS A LOT!!!

[jolly hazel]

np 😄

[rugged charm]

it worked

[jolly hazel]

awesome!! glad to hear it!

[sleek wadi]

hello my ui info suit isnt working! i got the latest master from here but its just not working lmao

not sure why!

i am using ui info suite 2 for reference

[dusty spruce]

"isnt working" how

also

!log

[native dragon]

Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[late nebula]

Did you download the right file?

[sleek wadi]

im sure i did but lets get to the bottom of this. also its not at all working lmao

https://smapi.io/log/df972491a4fa4086b31382dc07b9ba88

[sleek wadi]

no one look at me with my 110 mods

yeah! i know. its not them. it was a whole folder

my guess is somethings conflicting

[late nebula]

I don't think you have the built version.

You have the source code.

[sleek wadi]

is this not the right one?

[dusty spruce]

that would most likely be the source code, yeah

[sleek wadi]

LOL

my bad

[dusty spruce]

you have to go into the Releases section

[sleek wadi]

looks away

[late nebula]

It happens!

[sleek wadi]

[late nebula]

Don't worry about it.

[sleek wadi]

can i get da link pwease

IM JUST EMBARRASSED

[late nebula]

https://github.com/Annosz/UIInfoSuite2/releases

[rocky ravine]

Hey, i'm new and i have some smapi issues that i cant find a solution to on the internet..

[hoary bane]

!ask

[native dragon]

Ask your question or describe your issue here, and someone will help if they can!

[hoary bane]

[rocky ravine]

smapi say it cant find the path to my game

when using the installer

[hoary bane]

Which platform are you on?

[rocky ravine]

pc steam

[hoary bane]

Steam? Gamepass?

[rocky ravine]

i tried manual but when i follow all the steps and launch through the API it just flashes the cmd and then nothing happens

[hoary bane]

!gettingstarted

[native dragon]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

[hoary bane]

That's weird, I don't see why it would struggle to find your game if it's from steam

Did you download the latest version of smapi?

[rocky ravine]

yes

redownloaded it a minutes ago

[hoary bane]

Can you run the installer again and send a screenshot?

[hoary bane]

[rocky ravine]

so it say 'the system can't find the system'

path

[late nebula]

Is your steam folder in a non typical place?

[hoary bane]

And that's just initially from opening the installer?

[rocky ravine]

usual place

c

programms etc

yes, well i have to open as admin

normally it just flashes and its gone

[hoary bane]

Huh

Well that's something I haven't heard of

[rocky ravine]

it worked on my laptop ( i just wanted to try) but lets just say my laptop doesn't have the capacity for that

[supple venture]

anyone know the file path for the backgrounds you get when downloading sve?

[astral plover]

.... your download folder, probably?

if you have chrome just go to chrome://downloads/ and it should show you the file path location of your downloaded files.

[supple venture]

downloaded them a while ago, but new windows update wiped my background

[astral plover]

then just redownload them. we cant know where you ended up moving them after downloading

[supple venture]

alr thx

[dense trench]

there a problem about this mod?

[hoary bane]

Where did you download it from?

[dense trench]

nexus

[hoary bane]

Huh, that's weird. Well as long as you're certain you got it from there, it could just be a false positive?

[chrome cosmos]

its normal, its just because it got uploaded recently so like ][ said, its a false positive

[dense trench]

Thank you very much

[edgy parrot]

There has to be a mod that replaces Linus' portrait with that one picture of Linus from LTT

[halcyon shore]

Hi, guys, have anyone tried to run SVE alongside East Scarp, is there any significant incompatibles?

[astral plover]

plenty of people have ran´them together and if you would actually read the nexus discription you'd see that its listed as mostly working.

[dense trench]

T_T

I already updated the latest version

of smapi

but it's been a while updating it along with other 38 mods. My last version of smapi was 3.13.2

[quick gazelle]

might need to start from scratch and re-download everything

38 mods is not bad, that's maybe an hour downloading and installing mods and all dependencies while you watch youtube or whatever in the background

[dense trench]

Well I guess I have no other choice. Thanks man or sis

[visual wren]

best cheat mod?

and best item spawner mod

[shy orbit]

cjb cheats menu and cjb item spawner

[visual wren]

ty

how do i open the cheats

[hot prism]

Cheats=p, item spawn=i

[astral plover]

are you on a 56k modem or what? 38 mods (in smapi numbers) should never take an hour to download and install

except for major expansions, most mods are hella small anyway and take seconds

[astral plover]

!log could also do a log post and check what exactly is causing the issue. tho if you havent played in a very long time, its probably better to just note down what mods you had (or want) and redownload everything anyway (make sure to check smapi.io/mods aswell to see if the nexus version is really the latest release)

[native dragon]

@dense trench Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[hearty dagger]

Hello! How long does it usually takes for modded version to start? (it has ridgeside, sve, aesthetic mods, cheats and spawner) it has 52 mods in total.

[native grail]

i have 200 and it takes 6 min

[hearty dagger]

Omg! That's fast!

[shy orbit]

after removing pytk + tmxl and with the newest content patcher my game takes a bit over minute

[hearty dagger]

Mine is on the start logo but mouse won't move just freezed. This is my first time using all of my mods at once.

[shy orbit]

it's with SVE, RSV, ES + other smaller mods to about 250 in total

[native grail]

it is? my pc is a potato

[hearty dagger]

The pytk is needed in rsv right?

[visual wren]

how do i remove all i dug up soil

[shy orbit]

nah, the dependency was removed some time ago

[visual wren]

these ones with the cjb cheat mods

[native grail]

pytk is still needed by so many mods

[quick gazelle]

I mean you could do it in ten minutes if you knew what files you needed and didn't run into any errors. I'm assuming a couple minutes per mod to download, read description, get all related required mods, etc.

[hearty dagger]

Where can I download the lastest version of pytk?

[hoary bane]

Nexus

[shy orbit]

(i didn't mean that updating pytk helped though, just not using it helps)

[dusty spruce]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4715
https://forums.stardewvalley.net/threads/unofficial-mod-updates.2096/page-64#post-43678

[native grail]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1726

[visual wren]

thanks

[hearty dagger]

Thanks a bunch!

Thank you everyone for the help! Hehe i'm always struggling understanding these stuff alone! Thanks!

[native grail]

Many people have reported lag with PyTK, is something in the works to fix this?

[dusty spruce]

not really, no

it's the artifact of SpaceCore and PyTK interacting with each other

most mods are moving away from PyTK though

[native grail]

So many Custom NPCs need it, and other mods too

I guess we'll have to wait

[dusty spruce]

not the big mods though, not anymore

[native grail]

Good

[dusk vessel]

I removed the Zuzu mod and it saved properly, I’m gonna try to re-add the Zuzu mod today and see if the problem persists

I really like the mod so I hope it works!

[kindred axle]

two batches of my non replacing hair resource hairstyles dont load or load improperly (half to the bottom) and i dont know how to work out what's going wrong

[native grail]

Is DGA okay now or does it stil have some issues?

[lament prairie]

DGA is fine, PPJA DGA versions still broken

[native grail]

Ahh, ok, gotcha

[placid orbit]

can you try without PyTK and TMXL?

[lament prairie]

Harvz, I should be free to help test this bug in about 6-8 hours

Feel free to PM me if there’s anything beyond “install Pytk, TMXL, and DTZ Zuzu latest, visit airport, try saving” (on a Mac)

[edgy parrot]

So I'm trying to use the console commands listed here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands

But most of them aren't working

I'm specifically trying to warp to shane

[astral plover]

because you arent prefixing them with "debug"

probably

[edgy parrot]

I see

[astral plover]

"command" becomes "debug command"

[edgy parrot]

He's apparently at jojamart?

But jojamart closed down

[lament prairie]

Debug wtc shane?

[native grail]

Oh, Aquarium, why must you need TMX and PyTK

[astral plover]

i ditched aquarium and just made my own iridium quality only collection shed

its basically the same

minus the one extra fish

[native grail]

Maybe I'll do the same, it's just a shame

Many favorite NPCs also use it

And I don't know what to do because at random intervals I get CRAZY lag and stutter for 2-3 seconds

And it's SO ANNOYING

At first I thought it was LoC and while it has issues, the lag remained even without it

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh

[lament prairie]

Lag/stutter is unfortunately very hard to diagnose

[gaunt gust]

what's your computer's specs?

[lament prairie]

There are a few potential causes:

1. Background processes on your computer (ex. my game lags/stutters horribly when my computer changes from light to dark theme at nightfall)
2. Garbage collection in the game—Ameise has been trying to track this down but it has been proving elusive.
3. Certain functions within the game can cause lag/stutter (ex. when I had a mod that spawned FTM forage at specific times, I would get a lag/stutter at those times, and when my daily screenshot mod triggers there's a big stutter)
4. Certain mods are more likely to cause lag/stutter, and may have settings to reduce them. (For example, reducing FTM's monster spawn limit can reduce lag, and there are lightweight versions of DSV to limit the lag from switching many images on location change, especially in winter.)

You can try eliminating/diagnosing the first one by running Task Manager/Activity Monitor in the background and trying to correlate lag spikes to spikes in activity from other processes. This may be difficult to do in realtime.

The second one you probably can't do anything about unless you want to start diving into .NET 5 stuff itself I thiiink

The third one you can try timing the lag/stutter, and if specific times are problematic you can try to find corresponding mods

[dusty spruce]

i used to have some lag with Automate when i went crazy with the number of machines in a group

had to switch it to fire every 20 seconds

otherwise it was unbearable, every second

[lament prairie]

Oh also I forgot:
4. If you have SVE installed, you can crank the monster spawn limit in FTM down and see if that helps with lag.

There are also certain computer setups that may be more problematic for lag: I think Nvidia graphics cards may need certain settings applied? And you may be able to change the amount of lag by setting SDV to run on a specific core on your computer? (Neither of these are things I understand very well though unfortunately)

[astral plover]

i have it set to every like 11 seconds or so, since my timespeed is set to 10 ingame minutes per 12 seconds i think. most machines only work whenever a 10 minute update happens anyway.

[dusty spruce]

yeah, i find it weird it uses seconds instead of in-game 10 minute intervals

[astral plover]

( i couldnt even think of a machine that needs to update more than once per 10 ingame minutes )

[dusty spruce]

there's none

[lament prairie]

If you want to see the Nvidia graphics card settings thing, try .q 5755 in #governors-mansion

[dusty spruce]

they literally update once every 10-minute in-game interval

i guess at this point it's just backwards compatibility

otherwise Pathos would probably make it tied to the ticks

[astral plover]

that might be something to suggest for automate on the nexus page as a "performance mode" checkbox, so it only fires once right before or after the update happens

[native grail]

It's pretty old, admittedly, but this lag/stutter issue is new.
My graphics card is AMD Radeon R7 200 Series, my processor is AMD 6300 6-core, 3.5 Ghz, 8 GB of RAM, and the game is installed in an SSD

[gaunt gust]

so, your computer isn't particularly old

[astral plover]

or have the groups spaced out troughout the ticks within the 10 minutes.

[dusty spruce]

in my Machine Status mod i register myself to the readyForHarvest, minutesUntilReady and heldObject property changed events of each machine, and only do anything if they actually changed
anyway, this is off-topic, so i'll stop

[lament prairie]

Unfortunately the switch to .NET 5.0 may be tied to more lag/stuttering issues on certain setups (anecdotally), there was a forums thread about this issue (not sure if it ever came to any conclusions though).

[native grail]

Well, I've had it for 7 years so I do consider it old xD

[gaunt gust]

for some reason it looks like Radeon machines are more likely to suffer lag, yeah

[native grail]

Sigh

The thing is, I cannot pinpoint a reason. I check the time when it happens, then i check the log to see if there's anything that happened in that minute but...nothing

According to the SMAPI log, at least

[lament prairie]

Not everything that causes lag will log itself

And if it does log, it may log at trace level

[native grail]

It makes it harder to diagnose eh

[kindred axle]

Does it cause some sort of issue if I load them doubly on accident?

I don't know why I said doubly, I mean twice

[gaunt gust]

so, the best way to diagnose would be to fork smapi, compile from source, and use VS's diagnostics.

but I can understand if you don't want to do that lol

[native grail]

haha, i don't know what any of those words mean

i want to do it, if it will help me and others

[kindred axle]

something a surprising amount of people have not explained to me, but something I found pretty logical that you can also just remove stuff that uses pytk and tmxl

helps a lot

so remove your least favorite npcs/mods and it should decrease

it worked for me

removed like three mods and it runs smoothly

[native grail]

But all of my custom npcs use pytk/tmx 😦 . Boarding House and Aquarium, too.

[kindred axle]

then cut some of them loose

nothing else to do about it

[gaunt gust]

quick question: what's the lag situation with smapi alone on a fresh save?

[native grail]

hmm, never tried it. let me do so

[kindred axle]

now if someone would please help me with the nrhr problem

[lime scarab]

Nrhr?

[lament prairie]

What does "half to the bottom" mean?

non-replacing hair resource I think?

[kindred axle]

the bottom half of the hairstyle is where the top half should be, the top half is at the feet

[lime scarab]

Oh. Oh god

[lament prairie]

There's a one-tile offset somewhere in the .png or possibly the data file (I'm not super experienced with these hairs)

[lime scarab]

Yeah

There has to be an offset

[kindred axle]

i dont think i could have missed that i did all of them by hand with asesprite, which is a pretty good indicator of space

[lime scarab]

Is this a mod you’re making?

[lament prairie]

To be honest, the main reason I hadn't suggested it is that I didn't know if this was true—I haven't tested personally

[kindred axle]

oh

well i can vouch

[lime scarab]

If so we can move to #making-mods-general

[kindred axle]

kind of? i'm using an existing tool to convert existing resources to a different type

it's mod making in nature but i'm not making a mod

[lament prairie]

That sounds like modmaking to me!

[kindred axle]

aight

[lime scarab]

Mind dming me the files? When I get out of class I’ll take a look

But yeah. It is mod making

[outer turret]

If the mod uses content patcher yo load the maps (ie there is no [tmx] folder, you can probably safely remove tmxl and pytk and just make sure you have extra map layers installed. It may break a few warps though!

[native grail]

First of all, omg. I had forgotten how orange the game is. I've been playing for ~15 minutes. Zero lag, 20 seconds loading time or something

SO SMOOTH

[outer turret]

Also if you use any of mine, the non pytk versions ate on my github.

[kindred axle]

yeah the problem is for people like me that have a fuckton of mods and there's always one of em that uses tmxl

[outer turret]

... and that's when you teach yourself how to convert them!

I still using it myself, but my load time is okay.

Theres no way to load water underground without it afaik. You can create water but it diesnt shimmer or show fish!

[gaunt gust]

isn't there an indoor water property now?

[hazy leaf]

I'm working towards removing pytk and tmxl completely from my mods

[outer turret]

Hmmm maybe? Will need to look into it.

[gaunt gust]

indoorWater may be what you want!

[outer turret]

Awesone indoorWater T? I do recall seeing that somewhere now that you mention it

Anyway to color the water?

[kindred axle]

i do this too much man this isn't good for my health lol

[gaunt gust]

EMP iirc has water coloring features?

esca's modding plugin

[native grail]

wait, we can convert TMX to CP? How? Can a non-modder do it?

[outer turret]

Sweet. I'll see how bad sewer looks with blue water anyway. That's my last lua feature

[lament prairie]

content code mmaybe? it's on my to-do list to poke around with it

[outer turret]

Nope because as soon as you make edits to a mod you automatically evolve into modder!

But its not particularly challenging, no

(Except for the but where you have to change all of the map names)

[native grail]

Are there instructions somewhere?

[outer turret]

Not sure. Now I want to write one but I also need to go to work. Um the content patcher github is pretty informative.

Dont try and convert aquarium thogh S its way complicated.

Start with something simple like, idk, Denver or one of the npc mods that add a house

[native grail]

Yup, that's what I want to do, I want to fix some of my fav NPC mods, like Cecilia/Blanche etc

Denver is another whole issue, he lives in the Boarding House and that whole mod requires TMX

no idea if Trent will convert it

[outer turret]

I thought he had?

[lament prairie]

I think I have standalone Denver though

[outer turret]

Like the maps load through cp now?

[native grail]

Nope, TMX is still listed as a requirement

[outer turret]

Yeh but that might be for the lua stuff?

Or extra layers

If you remove it the coffee machine will break

[native grail]

Dunno, SMAPI says that Bus Stop Expansion couldn't be loaded because TMX isn't loaded because PyTK was missing

[outer turret]

Yeh but that's a dependency. You can change those to false

Force it to load and see what breaks?

Might be some warps need fixing.

I use LoadMap extensively so removing that was a blow.

[native grail]

I'll try it, see what happens

[outer turret]

Luckily theres a vanilla alternative now but it doesnt work on door click links

[native grail]

This is what SMAPI said

[outer turret]

Oh and Blanche should be fine without it - she just won't attend festivals

[native grail]

I'll also remove the spouse rooms because I don't want to marry those NPCs, I just enjoy them

[outer turret]

Yeh tmxl spouse rooms can break stuff so I never load em unless I'm gonna marry them

You dont have Jasper?

(I think hes my only tmxl mod lef)

(And that's cos I'm lazy and havent uploaded the update yet)

[native grail]

Jasper? No, I don't have that NPC

[outer turret]

Hes my sweet cinnamon roll

[lament prairie]

he is very nice

[native grail]

Let me check it out!

Omg, he looks like a male Daria!

[gaunt gust]

Jasper is great

[native grail]

I'll try him out ❤️

[outer turret]

You might like to wait until I upload the non tmxl version

[charred verge]

i was just playing stardew valley expanded with some mods and enter the marlon cutscene and it just bug the game in the loading screen
i can see my cursor and alt tab and everything but the game just can't load the cutscene
there is the smapi thing

does someone know how to fix that?

[lament prairie]

There's something broken in the music

This looks like a mod issue

.q 5851

[devout pumice]

[#5851] "So, that question seems to be mostly SVE-specific. You might have better luck getting answers from the official SVE subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValleyExpanded/ or SVE discord (linked on the sidebar of the subreddit)." - @gaunt gust (02 Feb 2022 @ 08:21:20 PM UTC)

[lament prairie]

You may also want to try redownloading the mod in case somehow you're missing some files

[gaunt gust]

can you try deleting the sve dirctory and completely reinstalling it?

[charred verge]

how do i do that without loosing the save file?

[elfin patrol]

Full Log: ||https://smapi.io/log/95439dee21ed48659867efcdd9bea116||

So I'm getting errors from DGA that look like this:

04:26:05    ERROR    Dynamic Game Assets    Error applying dynamic field: System.ArgumentException: No such key 'GiftTasteOverride' in dictionary 'ExtensionData'
   at DynamicGameAssets.PackData.DynamicFieldData.Apply(BasePackData obj_) in E:\source\_Stardew\Mods.spacechase0\DynamicGameAssets\PackData\DynamicFieldData.cs:line 142
   at DynamicGameAssets.PackData.BasePackData.ApplyDynamicFields() in E:\source\_Stardew\Mods.spacechase0\DynamicGameAssets\PackData\BasePackData.cs:line 53```

Any idea what's going on here?

[gaunt gust]

your saves are located in a completely different location

deleting the sve directory and reinstalling will not affect that

[charred verge]

ok i will try

[native grail]

Alright, now only Denver, Cecilia and Riley still use TMX. Blanche, Shiko, Sorren, Lucikiel are TMX free (but won't appear in Festivals or have a spouse room, which is fine).

[charred verge]

tks

[native grail]

Let's see if this helps the lag

[lament prairie]

The DGA versions of the PPJA mods are broken in various ways, this might be one of them?

I recommend reverting to the JA versions

[elfin patrol]

I'll have to do that I suppose. We switched to the DGA versions to hopefully avoid my friend having JSON shuffling issues

[lament prairie]

Ah, unfortunately the PPJA mods were converted by a script due to them being massive

[elfin patrol]

Ah... makes sense why there's so many issues.

Do you happen to know if JSON shuffling can be caused by a computer with low RAM availability?

[lament prairie]

That shouldn't be the cause

You're more likely to get OOM crashes

(Out of Memory)

Which can trigger on any mod, it depends on when you run out of memory

[elfin patrol]

Hmm, yeah, not getting those. It just seems like after a while her stuff all gets weird. But it seems like restarting the game fixes it.

[lament prairie]

.q 5859

[devout pumice]

[#5859] "A Json Shuffle is when your Json Assets items rearrange their numerical IDs or different players have different numerical IDs assigned to the same object. See here for details: https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Json_Shuffle

Anytime you change your JA mods you can risk a shuffle. In multiplayer, you need to have exactly the same mods in exactly the same order as your friends.

Anytime you have a shuffle and then solve it, old objects may remain affected but new ones should be fine. You can sell or trash the old items, and spawn in new ones if needed with CJB item spawner." - @lament prairie (06 Feb 2022 @ 09:47:44 PM UTC)

[dusty spruce]

then maybe you're using some mods which add items in a weird way

[lament prairie]

It's possible that you've found a new, more exciting bug due to the rarity of low-RAM (<4GB) computers in use? But I would guess not.

[elfin patrol]

Yeah, I send her my mods folder zipped up so we know we have the -exact- same layout mod-wise.

Also what a bad time for the discord server to go wonky lol

[dusty spruce]

yeah that was wild

[lament prairie]

Yeah, I've never seen that before

If you have screenshots of what "gets all weird" means + a log we can try seeing if we can diagnose better?

[dusty spruce]

yeah i'd guess the game would straight out crash instead in that case

[lament prairie]

The game does crash if your computer literally runs out of RAM

With OOM messages on random mods

Not sure if anything happens right before/if you're right on the edge

Apparently the Discord thing was this server reaching the online member cap somehow???

[elfin patrol]

...the default function for a server hitting the online member cap is to turn the server off for people currently active in the server? That seems like a real bad default design lol

[lament prairie]

I feel like we should have already hit this limit tbh, and I'm not sure why on a random Monday it would get hit

[gaunt gust]

Online....member cap?

[lament prairie]

that's what google told me

[lone totem]

Anyone know how to mod stardew on pc but on the Xbox app not on Xbox but the app on pc

[lament prairie]

.q 5812

[devout pumice]

[#5812] "Installing SMAPI for Gamepass requires extra steps. Please see the guide here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Windows#Xbox_app" - @gaunt gust (19 Dec 2021 @ 12:16:44 AM UTC)

[lament prairie]

However, there have been some recent changes in Gamepass

[gaunt gust]

(Pathos just updated those instructions)

(So I assume they work)

[lament prairie]

Oh okay! Does he have it on gamepass then? That would make sense....

[gaunt gust]

he has it on gamepass as well!

[mild moss]

do I need to make individual folders within the stardew valley mod folder for the mod to work?

[lament prairie]

Yes, each mod needs its own folder

[mild moss]

alright, thank you!

what if I only have one mod

[lament prairie]

Here's an example snippet of a mods folder

You should have the 3 default SMAPI mods

[mild moss]

oh yeah true

those

one sec

when I extracted it it became a folder

oh crabs wrong document

oops

[lament prairie]

You don't need the installer in your mods folder

In fact, you kind of actively don't want the installer there after you've finished installtion, it will throw a harmless error each time you start up the game

[mild moss]

I actually put it there by mistake-

I thought it was the mod and mistakenly extracted it there

does this work?

going to remove the unzipped file rq

hello?

is that fine?

(this)

[native grail]

REMOVING STARDEW AQUARIUM REDUCED MY LOADING TIME FROM 6 MINUTES TO 4.5 MINUTES, BAI AQUARIUM

[lament prairie]

this looks fine, you may want to trim the folder name since Windows limits the maximum filepath lengths

[mild moss]

ah

thank you!

[lavish marlin]

Is custom npc fixes actually necessary?

[lament prairie]

Unclear

[lavish marlin]

Spacechase0 seemed unsure

And it has that annoying performance bug (that SM fixes)

[lament prairie]

This is the save with pretty much every NPC and expansion mod installed

So, it has a lot of random stuff in it

[lavish marlin]

Your save load times must be awful

[lament prairie]

haha yeah

Although if I update to CP 1.25 they might improve

[lavish marlin]

(use SM, even with resampling disabled)

[lament prairie]

It's about 5 min load time total

[lavish marlin]

sm without resampling even will cut that dramatically

CP more since it has my PR in it

[lament prairie]

I haven't played in a bit, so I need to go in and update a bunch of things

But I wanted to a) fix my own mod first and b) maybe test DTZ for that bug Harvz was getting reports on from Macs

[lavish marlin]

The load time improvement in the latest CP was my PR - its not patched in SM because it's a structural fix.

But yeah, it'll help load times which helps you not have to sit around waiting.

Which is a big reason that I implemented those patches

The NPC scheduling fix alone halved the load time

[robust hull]

does anyone know if using cjb spawner to spawn a journal scrap makes it not spawn a scrap normaly?

[native grail]

Alright, while the stutter/lag at random intervals can occur WITHOUT SpriteMaster

SpriteMaster makes it a lot worse (it occurs every 3 minutes, instead of 20-30)

Any ideas, @lavish marlin ? (see right above)

[livid coyote]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3097?tab=description

does this mod still works on 1.5.6 ?

[native grail]

Yes.
https://smapi.io/mods

[fringe meadow]

Hey, I had a problem and Verified the game file integrity and now none of mods work and terminal doesn't open. How should I approach this?

[livid coyote]

check your launch options?

[livid coyote]

thanks

[frigid juniper]

do I really have to download all those stuff for stardew expanded, the only thing I have is smapi

[gaunt gust]

....yes

[gaunt gust]

are you on mac or linux

[fringe meadow]

I'm on mac

[gaunt gust]

reinstall smapi

[fringe meadow]

I did three times but it still doesn't work

[gaunt gust]

if you go into the game directory itself and double click on StardewModdingAPI does that launch smapi?

[lone dragon]

If you launch it from a terminal does it have any odd errors?

[fringe meadow]

-How do I find the game directory,? Is it the files?

[fringe meadow]

Terminal wont open when I launch the game so I don't see anything from that end

[lone dragon]

In the games directory, you can open a terminal and run it directly there

[fringe meadow]

What is the games directory??

[lone dragon]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Find_your_game_folder

[unborn raft]

Is there a mod that makes donating to the museum easier because the method for moving gems about makes me want to pull my own eyes out

[lavish marlin]

Not off hand. I experience stutters with just SMAPI every few seconds.

SM can stutter a bit if a lot of new textures are loaded or invalidated

Since it has to momentarily block the main thread to handle certain things.

And some mods are... really bad about invalidations.

[native grail]

Hmm, I have zero issues with just SMAPI, I checked it after someone suggested I do it. This is peculiar

[lavish marlin]

If I patch the SMAPI invalidating code directly I can improve that.

There is a complex issue ATM in the texture cache. I can either hold weak references there in which case they get flushed on GC, or strong references in which case the instances don't get suspended and reused.

I need a middle ground there.

[native grail]

I'm not programming-savvy so I can only help by providing info 😦 I hope you figure it out!

[nova parrot]

hey all, my skills shot up to 10 and i don't know why. is there a way to lower them using console commands?

i did some digging and here's the amount of xp on my character, but level 10 is 15000 xp. i'm very confused

[lavish marlin]

I find that's it's more common with mods like seasonal npc things

Seasonal outfits and such

[fluid swan]

How did you decide which to remove :'(, this is my issue...

New CP patch also helped out my load time a bit as well!

This is also a silly question, probably, but what mod should I use to edit my farm map? Some of my mods messed up a portion of my farm, and I'm unsure how to retexture it as a mod noob, and I don't have a backup save file from before the mistake. 😦

[native grail]

I also found out it depends on how long you play. After removing SM, I didn't have any stutter for the first in-game day. It happened once or twice on the second day and it got progressively worse. No message for OOM stuff, though.

[native grail]

I realized that some of them I barely use/they are places I barely visit. Also removed NPCs for whom I've watched all scenes etc

[lavish marlin]

I had to implement that in CP directly since it wasn't easily patchable.

Plus it was simple enough.

[lavish marlin]

Odd. Could be heap fragmentation, or something else like a specific resource or identifier getting added repeatedly to a list.

[fluid swan]

Reset Terrain features didn't work, so whatever is going on here isn't considered an Object Trying to figure out what mod those statues are from (I assume these aren't vanilla items) to try and remove them to see if that works

[native grail]

It's frustrating because it renders my game unplayable AND SMAPI is not helpful in this particular situation, so it's difficult to solve this

[lavish marlin]

Does SM help that?

[native grail]

When I add SM, this stutter every few minutes happens almost from the start. Without SM, it happens but more slowly and gradually. This is so weird.

[lavish marlin]

SM should reduce the stutters. Hmm.

[native grail]

https://smapi.io/log/6cd41b888ccd469991d3e1cef87d91b2 This is my log, if it helps at all

It takes approximately half an hour for my game to become almost unplayable.

[gaunt gust]

worth asking the gc to compact once per in-game day?

[lavish marlin]

SM already does do a full compacting GC every day, and when you enter/exit buildings.

[gaunt gust]

ah, I see

[lavish marlin]

It also does a gen1 non-compacting GC every 150 ticks or so

I know for a fact that Seasonal * cause a lot of texture thrashing (with or without SM)

[gaunt gust]

by seasonal, do you mean the npc outfit mods?

[lavish marlin]

yup

[late nebula]

I tried to not use SM to see if I could. You'll be glad to know thatI can't. The game looks wrong without it now.

[fluid swan]

What is SM?

[late nebula]

Spritemaster

[gaunt gust]

have you looked into the alpha?

[lavish marlin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4922

[lavish marlin]

The SDV alpha? Not yet, but I don't see why it'd help in this case.

[fluid swan]

I’ll see how it improves my load time, ty 🙇

[gaunt gust]

apparently all how textures are invalidated is changing

[lavish marlin]

Ah, yes, it could help, it might not. It depends on a number of factors.

The biggest annoyance is that it basically jumps between two or more sets of textures

it sorta looks like CP:A in that regard, but worse

CP:A usually doesn't invalidate entire spritesheets

[gaunt gust]

Ameise, my apologies, my understanding of anything at the moment is about zero

[lavish marlin]

and better, CP:A doesn't invalidate it CP-side

[gaunt gust]

hum

(I apologize, I don't think I'm capable of understanding anything at the moment.)

[late nebula]

Just smile and nod.

[gaunt gust]

(I can try again later when my head doesn't hurt)

(and when my context isn't python)

[late nebula]

Hope you feel better

[gaunt gust]

(i'll be fine! Thank you!)

[misty thicket]

I'm getting this mail every day

I'm sure it's from a JA pack

[lavish marlin]

the gift is the letter

[dire fractal]

Those statues are from SVE (From Lance's assets to be precise).

What map are you using?

[late nebula]

Farmer to Florist I think

[dusty spruce]

what mail mods are you using?

do you have FeTK or whatever it was called by any chance?

[misty thicket]

yes I believe so

[dusty spruce]

yeaaaah that's what happens with FeTK

[misty thicket]

I'm also noting a of

[Mail Framework Mod] The recipe 'Potted Lotus' was not found. The mail will ignore it.

there's a lot of messages like that in the log file

[dusty spruce]

even worse, now you have two mail mods

[cedar lark]

I've been using Mail Services, seems to be working well

[dusty spruce]

Mail Services requires Mail Framework Mod, mind you

but FeTK also deals with mails, iirc

[cedar lark]

right, SVE required it so I already had it

[misty thicket]

yeah I do have SVE

[lament prairie]

do you also have the DGA version of Farmer to Florist? it's got broken mail

[misty thicket]

oh I guess I don't have FeTK

[lament prairie]

you need to revert to the JA version to un-break the mail but then you have issues with mail you already received

with mail framework mod I believe you get some console commands you can use to forget mail

[misty thicket]

@lament prairie this is what I ahve

I went nuts on JA stuff a few days ago

[gaunt gust]

That is the dga version

Go back a.version?

[fluid swan]

What happens if I delete my custom furniture and open up a save file that had custom furniture---does the furniture just disappear and I can play the game without any consequences? Or do I need to delete all the custom furniture before removing it from my game

[cedar lark]

you're gonna want to delete the furniture, both out of the house and in your inventories

chests and the like

[late nebula]

Not sure. I wonder if it would be an error item.

[gaunt gust]

It'd probably crash the game lol

[late nebula]

Doing what Jczion said is probably best.

[cedar lark]

pretty much every PPJA mod I've read when it comes to uninstalling has always said that

so its on the same level of furniture I would assume

[native grail]

Okay! I've confirmed that once the lag/stutter occurs (I can play half or a full in-game day before it happens) it reoccurs approximately every five minutes.
Sometimes, it happens more gradually, but sooner or later, this starts happening every 5 minutes almost on the dot and it renders my game almost unplayable 😦

Is this a memory leak of some kind?

[fluid swan]

Do Json Assets lag the game?

Attempting to cut down on mods. 😢

[native grail]

I think they do

[dire fractal]

Does vortex work

For sdv

[native grail]

Eh. I always hear complaints. It's better to do it manually.

[dire fractal]

Ok

What are some good furniture mods

[cedar lark]

it tends to eat files esp when updating

so yeah its best to do things manually

[misty thicket]

another question

I should have a fishing channel on my TV but it's not there

IIRC it was part of SVE

it would report on what could be caught that day

[remote marsh]

Question for Vibrant Pastoral recolor users:

Has anyone noticed that the load times in/out of buildings during the winter and rainy days is significantly longer than normal?

[cedar lark]

yeah, especially if you load your save on a rainy day

not sure why

[remote marsh]

Hmm. Debating if I should try out a different recolor and see if the problem persists

[dire fractal]

VPR changes a lot, I would try to turn off all the inside and furniture stuff, and maybe the seasonal overlays

[remote marsh]

I can't live without those

[lost storm]

Thank you to those who helped me last night with the Hidden River farm map. The mod author responded to the post, fixed the issue and I downloaded the update. I'm happy to say it works. However, it caused glitches like this. I think I'll have to start over. LOL Well ok I was going to share some screenshots but I forgot where they are.

[remote marsh]

It's not a gamebreaker or anything, just annoying. If other recolors do it too then I'll just live with it

[dire fractal]

VPR just makes the furniture and the town interior look a bit more toned down

It's not really a big visual change

[lost storm]

I'll do it this way. I now have floating crap pots in grass.

And furnaces in water.

[dire fractal]

Get NoClip to access them

Though they might drop in the water

[lost storm]

I'll just start over. It's only day 15 so it's not a huge deal. I'm just happy the map is working now.

[dire fractal]

Ah, okay. That's not a big loss

[lost storm]

I just had to share these cause they cracked me up. lol

[mild moss]

my cjb cheats menu is not working

I have moved it into the mods folder already

[lost storm]

What's the keypress to open it set as?

[mild moss]

and extracted it

I think it is p, how do I check?

[lost storm]

It has a config file, check to see

[mild moss]

I see, do I find that inside the mod folder?

[lost storm]

Yes

[mild moss]

alr thank you!

[lost storm]

Open up the cjbcheatmenu folder, then double click on config.json. It should open it in notepad

[mild moss]

ah alright

[lost storm]

I have it changed to open with C and to freeze time with T but I had to first go into the game options to change the keys those were already set to. Like the game defaults T to chat. I changed that to space. And C was defaulted to something as well but I changed that to something else so I can use those keys for the mod.

Do I don't play multiplayer, I didn't need the chat feature.

[proven pewter]

@fast river I'm having an issue with a DGA mod. I've contacted the author of the mod, but it could be an issue with DGA itself.
Essentially, this pack adds some shoes with DGA, and when I uninstall the mod (or run the game without it) the load game screen crashes with an OOB error trying to draw a save slot wearing those shoes. (even with DGA installed) https://smapi.io/log/a49a646363124392adc36733986866b2

[lost storm]

And I play with a controller so I don't need most of the button presses either.

[late nebula]

If you use Generic Mod Config Menu, you can see the settings in game.

[mild moss]

oh

I will consider installing that

[late nebula]

Definitely very useful!

[proven pewter]

I haven't been able to verify that it is a problem with DGA because I haven't seen any other mods adding boots with DGA, and of course there's no way to run the other mod without DGA installed

[late nebula]

Not all mods use it, but most do.

[lament prairie]

(If you check my last ping to space, you will find a similar issue with machines left in the save)

[proven pewter]

argghhh

[lament prairie]

gmcm is very nice, can confirm

[plucky canyon]

has anyone got any experience using automate+crab pots on mobile?

i can't put bait in :c

actually i can't figure out how to put bait in at all, sans chest

[mild moss]

does cjb cheats menu have a default menu opening key?

[late nebula]

P

[mild moss]

ah

that's odd... I tried using that and it did not work

[late nebula]

!log

[native dragon]

Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[mild moss]

it says windows cannot find it

[late nebula]

Do you have a mod in your mod folder called Error Handler (or something like that)?

[mild moss]

I do

[late nebula]

Okay. When you launch the game, is the smapi console window coming up? The black box?

[mild moss]

it is not

[late nebula]

Okay that means you aren't launching with mods which is why nothing is working.

Are you on gog, steam, or xbox app?

[mild moss]

I am on steam

[late nebula]

Can you check your launch option? Right click the game, properties (i think?)

Then there is a box near the bottom called launch option

[mild moss]

alright

[late nebula]

(In steam I mean)

[gaunt gust]

are you on mac, linux, or windows

[mild moss]

windows

[late nebula]

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\StardewModdingAPI.exe" %command%

This should be in the launch option field. Or something close to it. Might be different if you put your game files somewhere other than the default place.

[mild moss]

also there is no launch option in properties

[late nebula]

As in nothing is in the box or the box doesn't exist?

[mild moss]

the box is not there

[late nebula]

Well.. I have no idea how to help you then...

!gettingstarted

[native dragon]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

[late nebula]

There are instructions with pictures when you get to the configuring your game client part

[mild moss]

thank you for trying!

[late nebula]

That might be better at guiding since I'm on my phone and in bed

[mild moss]

ah

[ashen garnet]

Huh. Got a weird issue with SVE

[late nebula]

What sort of issue?

[ashen garnet]

SMAPI says it can't load ShopTileFramework because there are multiple copies, and it can't load SVE because it needs ShopTileFramework

[late nebula]

Did you delete SVE before you updated it?

I think it used to come with some of those dependencies.

[ashen garnet]

That may be it. I cleaned the folder a bit but I'm not sure what I just replaced. I'll delete and reinstall SVE

[late nebula]

But ultimately, you need to delete one of the copies of STF and your log should tell you exactly where they are.

[lament prairie]

that error is a little unintuitive but it does really sound like the "didn't fully delete" error

the reason it happens is that there's two submods sharing the same uniqueID across the before/after versions, but they don't have the same folder name

so drag and drop does terrible things

[late nebula]

Who would ever drag and drop a mod into the mod folder and let it overwrite?

[ashen garnet]

Looks like it loaded better this time!

now I need to do a couple other small fixes, like NPC map locations...

Which-- huh. Has separate files for SVE and Immersive Farm

...do I need both?

[late nebula]

That.. I don't know.

I imagine the Immersive Farm one would cover both?

You can always download and look at the images.

[cedar lark]

you're asking about the maps for SVE?

there is 2 maps that are recommended to be used with it

Grandpas and IFR2

don't install both if you plan on using one of them

[late nebula]

I thought they were talking about npc locations maps?

[cedar lark]

ah my bad

I didn't have any sort of issues with NPC map locations with SVE

[late nebula]

(I may be wrong)

[ashen garnet]

ah, one of those was for Starblue Valley

map colors

Hrm. Well it loads up, SVE is running, and the map is accurate. But the NPC icons are missing.

[late nebula]

Do you have to meet them before they show up?

[ashen garnet]

I don't... think so? I'll try

[scarlet spoke]

For anyone who uses Custom Producer Mod, why does the Mushroom Box take 3200 mins to be ready, despite taking 1 day in vanilla?

[ashen garnet]

Nope, that's not working-- meeting npcs, I mean

[fringe meadow]

Hey should I download the Mod manager file or the manual file on nexus?

[hoary bane]

Open the map and click tab. Maybe it's accidently set to a condition to see them

[hoary bane]

Always adviceable to do things manually

[fringe meadow]

Thanks!

[blazing gulch]

Hullo anyone here using bfav and krobus elf mod?