archived-modded-support

[neat violet]

(this is a joke)

[rare quest]

debug ebi <eventID> 😛

(doesn't work if the event has when conditions though)

[glacial briar]

I don't allow this kind of talk, btw! You're not stupid, mods can just be intimidating

[snow prism]

debug ebi is sometimes a bit wonky, it doesnt always load characters correctly and doesnt change the time^^

it ignores most conditions afaik

[rare quest]

Yeah I've noticed that. Def isn't player friendly (really just meant for debugging tbh)

[snow prism]

yeah, was thinking about adding a "replay event" to my event lookup but it would've had to change time and other stuff

[neat violet]

Maybe an exit off the map?

[glacial briar]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8804

[rare quest]

Hmm you actually might be onto something. I'll add it onto my "to do list" and investigate if that's a possibility. Might work.

[slim robin]

Thank you @glacial briar

[glacial briar]

And if you want to try modding, there's a list here of easy projects: https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Category:Tutorials

I rec trying dialog or a new crop first.

Or a recipe

@rare quest , I don't know how earlier talks went down, but what are the odds we can get some "how to mod with SVE" tips for the modding wiki? Not just NPC placements (though that would be amazing by itself), but things like how to put stuff in SVE shops?

The Joja shops in particular have been

[rare quest]

I may start using Shop Tile Framework.

[glacial briar]

I did create https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Custom_NPC_List and https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Location_Edits, but obviously they don't have much (any) traction, possiblly because they're too specific for anyone to want to contribute to.

What were you using if not STF?

[keen crow]

Magic 🪄

[glacial briar]

I never did like the wizard....

[rare quest]

Well, it is an extra dependency and TMX accomplishes everything I need it to.

[glacial briar]

lol

[rare quest]

But SVE 2.0 will definitely require it.

[glacial briar]

With that one sentence, I begin to see how all the incompatibilities happened....

[rare quest]

If you want to edit SVE TMX shops, you're better off patching the shop tile completely.

You have my permission to use any SVE shop portraits to make that happen.

[glacial briar]

Definitely feeling good about that Blackmarket now 😄

[neat violet]

Was that always the case, Flash, or was that something new with the Claire/Martin divide?

[glacial briar]

I'm gonna stick with pointing users to the blackmarket until STF is used. 👍

[rare quest]

Patching Joja shops was introduced ever since I decided to reduce Joja prices. iirc it was before Claire and Martin were developed, so it was a long time ago.

[glacial briar]

If anyone else contacts you about Joja shop edits meanwhile, it's not a great solution, but tell them the blackmarket welcomes them with open arms.

Lol, I still think those "crop" ideas are genius. Who came up with them?

[rare quest]

I came up with the idea, and Keychain sprited them (she does some spriting for SVE every once in a while. also designed every SVE fish haha)

[glacial briar]

They're fab 👍

[rare quest]

I will disclose the little red lights on the crops themselves were her idea 😛

[glacial briar]

Also, does Keychain have any interest in sprite work for others? We've got a serious shortage of artists around here and https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Classified_Ads needs more listings....

[rare quest]

That's a question I'd bring up with her.

[glacial briar]

Feel free to send her the link

(Goes for any lurkers who are interested in doing art/code/writing as well, btw!)

(Don't think I don't know you're there... )

My dream is that someday that wiki has a list or links to lists for everything needed for an aspiring modder to make informed choices re:compatibility.

[slim robin]

Hi

[glacial briar]

Well, this was surprisingly productive! But I was supposed to be productive irl....

[snow prism]

hey :)

SVE 2.0 when?

[glacial briar]

Flash is gonna be like "I'm never showing up here again" XD

[rare quest]

[snow igloo]

i still need hel]p

can anyone read my error log

https://smapi.io/log/5b9eefcd26c84e5fb17b7dc83aa14b10

[halcyon leaf]

hi, can anyone help me figure out what i need to get these mods to not get skipped during boot up? i thought i had all the necessary supporting mods but maybe not?

https://smapi.io/log/6e36cbc2b9df47f4a1a5e742c963952a

[alpine ginkgo]

It seems you're missing Bus Locations and Anti Social NPCs for Garden Village!

And it also seems you're missing the JA component of Kawaii Valley?

[snow igloo]

@alpine ginkgo Would you be able to help with my log?

[halcyon leaf]

i've downloaded bus locations and anti social npcs though, and as far as i know i have everything for kawaii valley, that's why i'm so confused D:

[alpine ginkgo]

Sorry, I actually did have a look at your log and it's beyond my knowledge level. I'm sure someone else will be able to help you, though!

Oh? They're not showing up in the log, though.

[halcyon leaf]

huh, i'm wondering if i may have stuck them in another folder by accident

let me try again

[snow prism]

did you remove any mods that adds fish recently?

what kind of fish ponds did you have on your farm?

[tawdry blade]

SVE 2.0?

[snow prism]

far future probably ^^

not that I have any insider knowledge ofc

[halcyon leaf]

@alpine ginkgo ok so the bus locations and anti social mods were totally my bad, i have no idea where i had put them the first time around but it's still telling me that something is going on with poppi's kawaii valley and i'm really not sure what to do about that one

[slim robin]

I'm trying out blackmarket

[snow igloo]

I have a ton of fish ponds, I have one for each fish species in my game. If I removed a mod that has fish I'm not sure which mod it would be, but I am reviewing all my past mods right now

[slim robin]

I had to download a bunch of things to download it and download a bunch of things so those things would work

[snow prism]

can you zip your modfolder and your savefile and send them to me (via google driver or dropbox or so)

[glacial briar]

Lol, I'm glad you went to the effort. 🙂 That's how it is, your first few mods.

But now you'll already have all the frameworks when you get more mods in the future!

[slim robin]

Thank you

it was so much

[glacial briar]

How big a farm map are you using to do that? 😮

[slim robin]

How does the black market work

I read nothing

[alpine ginkgo]

Well, I'm glad that the Bus Locations and Anti Social NPCs was an easy fix! As for Kawaii Valley, are you using the version on Nexus? I looked in the posts tab and there seems to be an unofficial update there, which might be a good idea as it converts it to Producer Framework Mod. (Custom Farming Redux has been unmaintained for a while now.)

[glacial briar]

Just go into the bus tunnel. Should be there.

[slim robin]

Okie

[halcyon leaf]

ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh no i didn't look at the posts, probably would have been a good idea but tbh i have a tendency to assume when something goes wrong with mods i'm in over my head

so i appreciate your help and patience a lot lol

[glacial briar]

Oh, sorry, didn't realize you wren't No Why. XD It's a mod I made to buy Joja stuff if you don't have access to Joja, plus it sells gems and artificats and allows you to sell swords and rings.

[slim robin]

What

I am no why

[glacial briar]

....I am very confused 😅

[alpine ginkgo]

No worries! Don't be afraid to ask again if that doesn't work, I've never used Kawaii Valley before!

[slim robin]

I just changed my name

[runic cobalt]

Harvest day!

[slim robin]

Woah

[halcyon leaf]

i need kawaii valley for another mod that i want to use haha, to make giant macarons as i am building a wee little cafe

[glacial briar]

Looks lovely, but not enough Joja Seeds.

[runic cobalt]

I always shop at Pierre

[glacial briar]

Why is there a little trader?

[slim robin]

@runic cobalt what mods do you use

[runic cobalt]

Also, now i have a Horse!

[runic cobalt]

Ui Info Suite

[glacial briar]

Huh

[halcyon leaf]

okokokokok here we go gonna give it a shot

[runic cobalt]

Day 7, Summer, and me with my Little baby horse

I can follow Sebastian now

[glacial briar]

Looks like a donkey

[runic cobalt]

It is, i use a texture mod for Horses

[halcyon leaf]

@alpine ginkgo NO ERRORS WOOOOOOOO

[runic cobalt]

+CC Horses i think

[alpine ginkgo]

[runic cobalt]

A lot

[halcyon leaf]

you are a lovely lady ty again for your help

[glacial briar]

I just downloaded a million mods and configured them; I might add AandS, but if I do it will be later

[alpine ginkgo]

No problem! Hope you're able to create your cute cafe!

[halcyon leaf]

😀

[runic cobalt]

Calcite, have you seen my Palm Tree?

[glacial briar]

I did! It's beautiful!

[runic cobalt]

THANK U! IM SO PROUD OF ME

[alpine ginkgo]

Oh yeah, I never said it at the time, but that tree sprite is gorgeous, Taiyo!

[glacial briar]

I can't wait until I have more time in the future and Tia's done making demands so I can snap up you with all your new skills. 😄

[runic cobalt]

And I did without the blessed Keyboard (it stopped working)

[glacial briar]

You are an amazement to us all. How many commissions until you can get a proper device? 😄

[runic cobalt]

I am very sad and frustrated that I don't have a Keyboard anymore. I'll have to pass the SM update to my cell phone and stay on it

[runic cobalt]

I already have money to buy a new one. I will ask my father for

Kall gave me a lot of money lol

The dollar is expensive, so

[glacial briar]

Shhhhh, we don't know that. 😄

Tia, I mean.

[runic cobalt]

Look at this 😘

[glacial briar]

Looks like maybe it needs slightly more depth to fit in with SDV style? But lovely on its own

[alpine ginkgo]

That really is such a beautiful tree.

[runic cobalt]

I didn't do it in the style of the game. I did it in another style. It's the first time I make pixel art bigger

[glacial briar]

Dang, if I had time to work on that game I started back in 2014....

[runic cobalt]

Because mods are always limited in sprites

[glacial briar]

In 2022, I might come calling T. 😄

[runic cobalt]

I started this year and I improved a lot

I was watching the conversation with Gwen XD

[glacial briar]

You ever need emergency funds and Tia's not doing it for you, you hit me up. 😛

(Uh, but getting off the topic of cash and back to mods.....)

So, what other mods is everyone enjoying?

[runic cobalt]

Look at this

Horrible

[glacial briar]

You know how I feel about language like that 😛

That is a better cake than I could sprite

[runic cobalt]

It was in February. I only made sprites in Ibis Paint, not Pixel Studio. Then everything comes out blurry and ugly

[keen crow]

Damn I should have asked Flash while he was here if it was possible to have Grandpa's Shed quests on a custom map

[glacial briar]

He's probs still lurking. 😛

Just @ him

[runic cobalt]

I think I'm going to start making structures too

[glacial briar]

Or wait for his SVE antenna to flare

[keen crow]

I'll see if I can figure out the coding first xD

[runic cobalt]

I will become an architect

[glacial briar]

Do it!

[runic cobalt]

But I'm going to buy a Keyboard first, it's hell without

Shortcuts, save your life

[glacial briar]

Yes, yes, I approve of this plan.

[runic cobalt]

I will update Seasonal Vanilla Craftables (yup, old lol)

I'll put on and off option, change sprites and refresh the page

Same with SM page

[runic cobalt]

Also, it will be called "Vanilla Craftables Redesign"

I'm adding things over time, I just don't know what

[keen crow]

:crackles knuckles: time to make my farmhouse

[glacial briar]

:cracks knuckles: Time to try and pry myself away from discord

[keen crow]

Haha xD

[oblique barn]

Current estimate of when Jay will finally start playing: 2026

[runic cobalt]

I cropped the image and it was much better to see up close

O

[deep totem]

Would it be possible to create sth https://stardew.info , with various festival map and perhaps filter for mod and NPC in the modding wiki?

[neat violet]

Btw, Bonster and Erin have been doing a lot of tileset stuff and art in Fern River, you could probably study them too 🙂

[runic cobalt]

Who is Erin and Bonster?

[keen crow]

Our Erin?

[runic cobalt]

(it's a joke)

[neat violet]

Recoloring or redesigning?

[runic cobalt]

I want to throw my keyboard on the wall and set it on fire

Really

[runic cobalt]

Redesign

KALL

OMG IT'S YOU

I just realized now

[neat violet]

The Erin made for Stardew, Stardew's Erin, the Erin specifically for Stardew...

...that Erin?

[runic cobalt]

WJRNQKS THE SPRITES IM ALREADY IN ASEPRITE YOURE MY GUIDER

[neat violet]

lol, who did you think it was?

[runic cobalt]

my cell phone will die

[runic cobalt]

I was distracted

Also, what a Mistletoe is?

please don't say moss

[keen crow]

xD

[glacial briar]

Not sure.

Remind me in 4 hours to care about "Would it be possible to create sth https://stardew.info/ , with various festival map and perhaps filter for mod and NPC in the modding wiki?" for ItsBenter.

[devout pumice]

grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and Calcite... i remind people. I'M A FORCE A NATURE (#2928126)

[neat violet]

(It's actually not a moss, none of them are actually mosses despite the namesXD)

Spanish moss, air plants, and mistletoe are all the same family, actually!

[glacial briar]

It def doesn't look like a stick with leaves. 😄

[runic cobalt]

So what is?

Leafs?

[neat violet]

It's a big leafy ball.

[glacial briar]

Surely you could see pics on google?

[runic cobalt]

Got it, so several leafs together?

[runic cobalt]

My computer can't open Google sir

He is old, 1990? Maybe

[neat violet]

I DMed a few pics 🙂

[chrome cosmos]

i made a mod that expands the cellar and got this comment, any grandpa's farm users know if this is an actual thing or if im just being trolled

[keen crow]

Uuuuugh, I can check in Tiled for you?

[chrome cosmos]

yes please, if youre able to

[neat violet]

I asked my roommate, who has Grandpa's Farm and a vanilla cellar, and she looked at me like I was crazy

[royal arrow]

Aha the fact they're being specific would lead me to think they're being sincere, but they could be confusing it with another mod

[chrome cosmos]

LMAOO thank you tia! i thought i was going insane for a sec because i was like??? is that even possible

[keen crow]

I don't see any kind of ladder tiledata?

[chrome cosmos]

mhmm, thats what i thought! just wanted to double check

thank you for checking jay! <3

[neat violet]

yeah, and I don't think SVE makes any edits to the cellar.

[keen crow]

No problem

It doesn't, no

Doesn't touch the house

Thought I'd check anyway xD

[neat violet]

I know SVE makes a lot of edits, but I think editing the farmhouse is a mess even they don't want XD

[chrome cosmos]

well now that thats solved, i can head to bed. goodnight everyone

[runic cobalt]

COULD YOU?

XD

[slim robin]

Babies are so ugly

Is there a cute baby mod

[runic cobalt]

Agreed

I dont know :(

[slim robin]

I'm sad

[slim atlas]

Looking for an assist figuring out what my CP-A error means in this log - https://smapi.io/log/2cd68f1884ff4c40a9614284268dc9cb

[oblique barn]

The only mod i know of that does anything like that would be https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3082

[neat violet]

Lumistera has a good CP one.

[slim robin]

What

[neat violet]

Hm, I thought it was theirs, hold on.

[untold cipher]

Erm... didn't we have the grandpa shed in sve?

[neat violet]

ah yes, it was https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/405

[slim atlas]

Trying this again. Don't eat and type - Grandpa's shed is only in the two optional farms. If you don't install one of \them, no special shed.

[royal echo]

agree. Razolyn, on the other hand...

please send me one via DM. I'm currently a bit too lazy to brew myself one

[neat violet]

[royal echo]

this be "Communal Coffee" 😆

[neat violet]

I harvested my crops, what am I forgetting to do before fall ends v_v

[royal echo]

hay?

[neat violet]

I didn't spit in this one!

[neat violet]

Think I'm good on that.

[oblique barn]

That's not correct. I have a custom farm that isn't one of the SVE ones and i still have grandpa's shed. You just get to it from the southern portion of the buss stop instead.

[runic cobalt]

Omagah

[glacial briar]

I only make mochas. Can also include any/all of orange, vanilla, cinnamon, caramel, caramon, and whipped cream. Edit: oh, and almond. Keep forgetting that option.

Also, since I discoved the Japanese grocery has a hawaiian section Kona is available for a slight upcharge.

[glacial briar]

Screenshot map for Player Diary?

[slim atlas]

Disregard. Checked posts on Nexus - apparently it's some kind of conflict with Grampleton Fields for reasons as yet unknown...

[glacial briar]

Did Grampleton actually get re-released?

[slim atlas]

Most recent version on the SVE page is from May 24th

[glacial briar]

Oh, that's a surprise.

I remember it existing only in legend. 😄

[oblique barn]

It's a little known one. Not even sure if it works. 🙂

[slim atlas]

It's still hiding in the "Miscellaneous Files" section instead of the "Main Files", but it's there.

[runic cobalt]

:(

[slim atlas]

Dang it - figures I'd be restarting while Seasonal Villager Outfits is on hiatus...

[outer turret]

It works fine but can lag computers and gets me ES bug reports cos I make the walk there longer.

Someone recently asked me to move ES to the other side of Grempletone fields and use a train instead

[glacial briar]

Look at this as your chance to get Diverse Stardew Valley! 😄

[glacial briar]

Minecart?

[outer turret]

They wanted to take their tractor @glacial briar

[lunar cipher]

You can use Diverse Stardew Valley as an alternative 😄 It has the same seasonal & festival outfits plus all the features like mermaid pendants, pyjamas, swimwear, etc. and you don't have to use the diverse character designs if you set the characters to "vanilla" in the config

[neat violet]

_> I'm not doing a diary

[glacial briar]

Well then I guess you're ready for winter. 😛

[quiet umbra]

nope, as long as you have the standard farm type checked you get the shed

[outer turret]

I told them no and that if they wanted that they could edit it themselves.

[lunar cipher]

(what's with the Joja cola emoji? 😅 Is it just like a jinx! thing?)

[glacial briar]

I am actually loving the ways ES connects to things so far, not counting the sewer mixup.

Yep, a cola for Jinx

[lunar cipher]

Haha, okay 😆

[outer turret]

I put a lot of work into npc schedules! Not locking them fo one map

[glacial briar]

But not Jynx.

Super legit, Lemur!

[outer turret]

The sewer should work when you befriend krobus now though.

[glacial briar]

Which I why I didn't count it. 👍

[neat violet]

Curious, do your NPCs work in town or stay in ES?

[slim atlas]

Thanks!!

[lunar cipher]

No problem! 😄 Make sure you grab the version from ModDrop, we stopped updating on Nexus so that one's pretty outdated now (although it's updated for 1.5, so it'll work okay)

[glacial briar]

Make sure you read through all the config options or else just use the provided sample config.

[junior shore]

Someone put the things how to post your log, I can't remember the command lol

[royal arrow]

!log

[native dragon]

Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[junior shore]

I appreciate you

[lunar cipher]

Also if you want to hold off a day or two, we should have an update dropping very soon 😄

[slim atlas]

Good to know. I usually read the description on Nexus, but failed to. I know there's at least one other I need to nab from Mod Drop too...

(I think a Shane expansion...)

[lunar cipher]

Oh yeah, Immersive Characters - Shane! Definitely get that one, 10K does amazing work

[slim atlas]

That's the one!!

Is there a download history thing on ModDrop that I'm just being a ditz and can't find?

[lunar cipher]

?
Not sure what you mean by "download history", sorry?

[junior shore]

Does anyone know anything about a black map bug at the railroad? It would seem to be somehow related to Aspen, if I had to guess.

[slim atlas]

Nexus has a "download History" option to make it easy to re-find what you've downloaded in the past (you know, in case you're starting from scratch for any given reason). I can't find one on ModDrop.

[lunar cipher]

Ah, okay! I hadn't realised that was an option on Nexus either 😅 Not that I'm aware of, but it might do and I just don't know about it. Sorry 😅

You could also look through your browser history, if you don't wipe it regularly?

[slim atlas]

(It might be a premium Nexus option - I restarted Skyrim so often I needed that function)

[royal echo]

btw jus' gatherin' input: What's your most troublesome pain point w.r.t SpaceCore and JA, excluding JSON Shuffle ?

[neat violet]

mmm

lag/loading times?

[quiet umbra]

really weird bugs & error logs?

[royal echo]

probably will be fixed in the next SpaceCore

[lunar cipher]

Personal edits are a pain because everything's in individual folders 😛

[royal echo]

send me to them

[royal echo]

that's the modder's pain 😄

[quiet umbra]

not directly pinpointed to latest SpaceCore, but when I go back to 1.5.2 the problems disappear

[royal echo]

tried 1.5.7-unofficial.4 yet?

[quiet umbra]

dunno anything re unofficial

[royal echo]

https://github.com/pepoluan/StardewValleyMods/releases

[quiet umbra]

didn't save error logs, sorry, but was really p.o.'d last night when lost several days

[glacial briar]

Shops/price points/conditions are weird.

[royal echo]

mebbe you shud try unofficial.4 then, the guy that released that version seems to claim that it allegedly fixes some SpaceCore problemes

[royal echo]

mebbe for JA2 ?

[quiet umbra]

will try... thnx bunches

[royal echo]

defo JA2

jatoo

Jason Asset Technology Object Oriented

[glacial briar]

Oh, and you can't have colored plants that regrow, but that's probably a vanilla problem.

(I haven't done much with JA so just mentioning what "cropped" up for me.)

[royal echo]

yea probleme since to be lieying with objet type, i..e. flower insetad of corps

[slim atlas]

Anyone have any kind of expanded skill mods they recommend?

[glacial briar]

You can have colored veggies, they just can't regrow.

The same space is used for the color option and the regrowth stage option.

[glacial briar]

Love of Cooking is goood

[slim atlas]

Literally just installed that one.

[glacial briar]

Sounds like you also need Okay Recipes! 😄

[lunar cipher]

Dunno if it's exactly what you're looking for, but Walk of Life (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8111) seems pretty good? Haven't used it personally though

(mostly because it was released recently, and I haven't played in ages 😆 )

[glacial briar]

I think that's incompatible with Love of Cooking, but couldn't swear to it.

[lunar cipher]

Compatible with any mod that adds SpaceCore custom skills (i.e. Love Of Cooking). Seems to be okay! 😄

[quiet umbra]

Love of Cooke does have problems being nice with epanded fridge and expanded storage

baasically you have to go back to having the ingredients on your bod to do the cooking

I does look through the basic fridge space and your backpack... unless there has been major update, that's it

[glacial briar]

Ah, I must have been thinking of a different incompatibilty. Sorry!

[quiet umbra]

very, very, sad re this... it's a fun mod, but I just can't give up having extras space available for all the really huge amount of ingredients available

Well... you could be right... I never used the Walk of Life mod... I was just moaning in re Love of Cooking

[lunar cipher]

Does it not work with the vanilla minifridges? (although to be honest I've never got one, not sure how exactly they work and whether they work with LoC)

Although I guess having a billion minifridges is also kind of a pain 😅

[quiet umbra]

dunno in re minifridges I have minifridges now, but not while I was trying Love of Cooking

I figured they probly work similar to having extra chests for remote fridge (which I believe LoC also doesn't like

yes... minifridges do a smoke & mirrors shuffle that makes them impossible to find again if you make the mistake of "hiding" one

[oblique barn]

I love the concept of love of cooking but i'm finding the interface for it to be quite tedious. :/

[gray sapphire]

Still trying, with no luck. :/

[lunar cipher]

Which seasonal mod are you using?

[quiet umbra]

what exactly is the problem?

[untold cipher]

hmm... I wish they can link to other storages in the house like the basement

I got too many types of ingredients to the point that I had to use the basement to store another set

[gray sapphire]

I'm getting the seasonal sprite and portrait for him no matter what I've tried

[quiet umbra]

If you use remote frideg, you should be able to link to chests anywhere

[untold cipher]

hmmm better install that mod then.

[quiet umbra]

You have to completely remove the seasonal sprite and put your favored one in its place

[gray sapphire]

I did?

[untold cipher]

portrait, I know of a way to fix it, but sprite yeah you need to replace them

[quiet umbra]

did you use 4 copies for the 4 seasons?

[untold cipher]

easy method, get Portraiture, worked most of the time

[gray sapphire]

... Romancable Rasmodious also has sprites doesn't it?

[gray sapphire]

Oh... Noo, huh

[keen crow]

How's this for a basic kitchen design? The wall isn't all building, so can hide stuff behind it

[lunar cipher]

Yeah, you need to completely overwrite every single Wizard-related sprite & portrait in whichever seasonal mod you're using, RR, and SVE if you're using that too

[quiet umbra]

I like the "kitchen garden" spot

[untold cipher]

er.. that the wall...

[gray sapphire]

Thanks

[lunar cipher]

Also is your portrait/sprite mod romance-compatible? Because if it's not, you're gonna run into issues with RR and/or SVE since they call for more portrait expressions than the default vanilla two

[quiet umbra]

oops

I always wanted an indoor kitchen herb garden (not so extensive) but no indoor herbs seem to survive for me. Can grow them outside ok

[untold cipher]

a pity that it is only the cactus fruit

[gray sapphire]

They are both specifically romanceable

[lunar cipher]

Should be all good then 😄

[untold cipher]

although, RR and SVE have two different writings just to let you know

[quiet umbra]

there is a RR that's SVE compatible

[untold cipher]

except, you will see two Magus during festival.

[lunar cipher]

(also I'm gonna do a little self-promo and let you know that DSV also has seasonal outfits and allows you to turn off edits for each characters specifically for cases like this where people want to use another character mod, without having to go through all the hassle of editing files 😉)

[quiet umbra]

I'm running DSV right now with a mix of vanilla and mod characters... very impressed.

I had to have black Elliot in my game

but I also love Romani Emily and Harvey as Shik sp?

others also but I specifically remember these

[lunar cipher]

Sikh Harvey? Yeah, he's one of my favs too! 😄 And I'm glad you like Romani Haley! She's one of my edits 😄

[glacial briar]

I leave Sikh Harvey off because I have Hazel, but I looove Black Haley in particular.

[quiet umbra]

still has all her sass coming across

[glacial briar]

I would also be happy to ignore Linus entirely in favor of Marigold.

I do with the Alex edits didn't look as young as they do.... :hint, hint:

[quiet umbra]

hmmm only Marigold I kno is cow

[lunar cipher]

We would be happy to look into compat with Hazel, except that SystemWorks has never actually contacted us about compat despite the little notice thing on their page 🤨

[glacial briar]

Eh, Hazel's her own thing at that makes perfect sense.

No reason to expect it to "work" with DSV somehow

[lunar cipher]

Mostly the outfits, I think, although they've got a bit on their page about doing a possibly South Asian version of Hazel so that it's "compatible" with DSV 🤷‍♂️

[lunar cipher]

Marigold is Linus's service dog! 😄 She's added in his modded version and she's a sweetheart but also a professional

[quiet umbra]

oops (insert emoji PufferEggOnFace)

[gray sapphire]

So, new issue? both of the new ones are .xnb files that work through content patcher?

Soo, do I drop four of the whole folder with manifest and content in there?

[lunar cipher]

Ugh, that's bad practice. If you get an xnb extractor program, you can extract the png files

[quiet umbra]

Just to get the sprites?

[lunar cipher]

Nah, if you just drop it in as-is it'll probably just muck things up and get overridden by Slightly Cuter Aesthetic anyway (which is what I assume you're using?)

[quiet umbra]

EasyXNB is a free, super easy extractor/repacker that I've used like forever & I recc it

[shy orbit]

well, content patcher can use xnbs just the same as pngs as far as i know

[quiet umbra]

just wants to change sprites, tho

[gray sapphire]

Oh... I didn't know you could that!

Excited noises

[quiet umbra]

o yes

If twas me, I'd just extract the sprites or portrats and use them in place of the pngs in whatever

[neat violet]

Dustbeauty's kitchen? :3

[quiet umbra]

the seasonal mod, right?

[keen crow]

Tilesheets yeah

[lunar cipher]

It can, but it's very incompatible with a lot of mods, particularly anything that needs to update throughout the day like seasonal mods, since those rely on being able to swap the pngs or jsons in and out

[shy orbit]

i don't know the context of the discussion really, but i don't think the files being either xnb or png would matter for that kind of incompatibility

[lunar cipher]

Also a CP mod loading an entire xnb breaks compatibility for anyone who wants to use CP to edit just a small part of it

[shy orbit]

yeah, but you can load a png file as well with the same result

[lunar cipher]

Yeah, that's also bad practice

The context is that they're using a seasonal mod and wanting to replace the Wizard's sprites and portraits with another mod, so the easiest way to do that is via extracting the pngs from the xnb and replacing the seasonal pngs instead of having to try and delete code

[shy orbit]

that's probably the easiest method in that case yes

[gray sapphire]

I think I will, I may also try to color them for each season if I'm feeling daring. And can download xnb nobe so I can use exnb

[quiet umbra]

Game has xnb node... you extract Easy XNB into the main game file where the .exe file is

it is a utility, not a mod

[gray sapphire]

Oh... ok then

I am very new to this, if you couldn't tell

[quiet umbra]

it really is one of the simplest programs you can get, but it does take a little bit of a different head space

[heavy sky]

word to the wise, XS automate and PFM automate seem to conflict with eachother. if you place down chests with expanded storage next to PFM machines, it starts lagging and gets worse the more machines you have connected to expanded storage-modified chests

i notified pathos about this, but it might be a matter that would need to be fixed by those mods' authors

[quiet umbra]

are you talking about the extra large chests or the "infintite space" chests?

[heavy sky]

yes, this one https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/7431

it has an automate compatibility mod as well

as does PFM

and they seem to conflict somehow

[acoustic lintel]

Good, PFMAutomate is to put it in a simpler way, a more complete version of Automate?

[quiet umbra]

I've never had problems with it, but I've never has umpteen machines connected either

[acoustic lintel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5038

[gray sapphire]

It's still saying it's not detected

[acoustic lintel]

It tells me that it is a separate mod from Automate so I don't know which one to put in my game.

[shy orbit]

!unpack @gray sapphire

[native dragon]

@gray sapphire See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files#Unpack_game_files for instructions on how to unpack XNB files in order to edit the assets inside!

[shy orbit]

there are some alternative ways

[gray sapphire]

Thanks

[heavy sky]

@acoustic lintel PFM automate is basically an addon mod for automate that adds machines used in PFM mods to what automate will use

whoops, forgot to delete old message first lmao

also yeah, @quiet umbra i'll need to test a bit more to be sure

but it looks like it's probably a conflict

[shut frigate]

i need help. im on windows and when i launch stardew off Smapi it says there's no api and ignores all the mods how do i fix it?

[quiet umbra]

yeah... you do things in a big way that might bring out problems I would never see

[heavy sky]

also yeah, without PFM automate, automate won't use any machines added by PFM mods

honestly @quiet umbra i only had a couple hundred PFM items connected, i have literally thousands of vanilla items using automate

but with just a few hundred PFM, it started lagging

significantly

it was "burst" lag, the game would freeze for 200-300ms and then resume like normal

as though it was lagging on every tick it was checking for updates to the machines

[dire fractal]

Hey, I just started modding stardew. What are some good quality of life mods for the game?

[shy orbit]

have you tried the same amount of automated PFM machines without expanded storage? PFMautomate was at least thought to cause lag with them relatively easily in comparison to automate using native machines

[acoustic lintel]

Thank you very much sweetie.

[quiet umbra]

this is whare easy XNB (and other unpackers) go

[heavy sky]

@dire fractal take a look at automate, animal sitter, tractor mod, auto animal doors, crop transplant mod, sleepless in stardew, horse flute anywhere, mobile phone, stack split x(default is broken, check smapi.io/mods), prismatic tools, part of the community, self service, zoom level mods

also @shy orbit that's what i'm trying now

@shy orbit nevermind, still laggy with expanded storage removed

so yeah, it's probably PFM automate then

[gray sapphire]

This is what mine looks like, although I took exnb out

[heavy sky]

after removing PFM automate, the lag stopped, after removing the chests connected to the PFM machines while it was active, the lag also stopped

[shy orbit]

i get a pretty strong stutter when the automation happens as well, i deal with it by setting the automation interval in automate's config to a high value

[heavy sky]

that sounds like a good idea

is it in the config somewhere?

[shy orbit]

yeah, it's somewhere in the config.json, i don't remember the exact name of the setting. but it's once per second by default

[heavy sky]

thanks for the tip

[gray sapphire]

Anyway, I'm using another one and it's going well. Do I need the .json?

[heavy sky]

"AutomationInterval": 60, is this it?

[shy orbit]

yep. i have it at 3600 which is one minute

[heavy sky]

righto, thanks

[shy orbit]

np

[heavy sky]

per frame i'm guessing?

or, every x frames

[shy orbit]

well, per tick

i believe

[quiet umbra]

not really all you need is the sprite or portraits or what you are focused on

[heavy sky]

i see

3600 sounds fine though, might lose a tad of efficiency but that's a small price to pay for fixing the lag

[gray sapphire]

Thanks!

[quiet umbra]

np

[quiet umbra]

BTW what OS are you using (I should have asked that to begin with)

[gray sapphire]

Windows

[quiet umbra]

hmmm... your pic looks just diffeent enough for me to wonder

ah welll what matters is that it's working for you ... gl

& be sure to lable your sprite copies exactly like the other sprites are labeled

[lunar cipher]

You might also prefer XNBExtract - it doesn't require any specific folder location and it's very simple to use. You can get it here: https://community.playstarbound.com/threads/beginners-guide-to-xnb-node-and-graphics-editing.110976/

[heavy sky]

no problem

sorry, got distracted lmao

[lunar cipher]

It's pretty much just drop your xnb in the Packed folder, run the Unpack batch file, and then grab your extracted files from the Unpacked folder (or in reverse if you're packing something)

[quiet umbra]

I might try that one myself... the EXNB one I use, I have been using for untold years & may now belong to the dino era

[lunar cipher]

I mean, XNBExtract is ancient too, as evidenced by the fact the only location I can find for it is the old Chucklefish forums 😆 But it still works fine

[outer turret]

Eloise attends school with the kids. Jacob visits the traveling cart on fridays and drops by Marnies. Tristan travels between the two a lot. Aideen visits forest and mountain.

[chrome cosmos]

ooh this is interesting, i havent seen it before :o

[quiet umbra]

It hasn't been updated for years... may not work anymore

[keen crow]

Should I make this entry room the same width? xD

[oblique barn]

Yeah. Like I said later on, I'm not even sure if it works any longer. I haven't used it in a fair while now.

[chrome cosmos]

oh yea for sure

[oblique barn]

Lol

[quiet umbra]

There used to be a neat buildables one too... you could put in doors and secret passages to anywhere

[chrome cosmos]

oh that one sounds coooll!!

[quiet umbra]

I only wish I was knowledgeable enough to revamp it

[oblique barn]

Then again, it's a content patcher mod. Probably wouldn't be terribly difficult to fix even if it is broken.

[chrome cosmos]

you got a link to it? im curious 👀

[chrome cosmos]

true

[royal echo]

is PFM open source?

[gray sapphire]

Sve has no aditional expressions that I can find. And nor does rrsve, although they do suggest a portrait. But, my portrait mod only has two, sooo what shall I do? Hmmm to ponder

[chilly swallow]

finally able to plop down

@glacial briar did I miss ya? hugggs

hugs Rikai 🙂

[neat violet]

hugs Erin!

[chilly swallow]

Tiaaa hugggs ❤️

[neat violet]

look, it's the Erin of Stardew, Stardew's Erin, the Erin specifically in the Stardew Discord...

... that Erin?

[chilly swallow]

snorts

hey! I saw another erin in here the other day

[neat violet]

Yeah, I think someone pinged the wrong Erin XD

[chilly swallow]

kinda weirded me out for a min there lol

ok.. ok.. so here's something weird.. I'm doing clint squish, yeah

one of the modders made literally every sentence he says with "ok, I need to pay attention, back to work"

[neat violet]

oh yeah, if I want to add Lucikiel, now would be a good time

[chilly swallow]

... every sentence

[neat violet]

ROFL

is it called ClintBot

[chilly swallow]

yus! Lucikiel is awesome

lmfao it shoulda been

[neat violet]

Will Lucikiel be fine going into Winter Y2?

[chilly swallow]

should be

idk if you'll trigger the first event.. but go by the bus stop after you've installed him

if he's there, make sure to talk to him, then go into town

you only get that event on the first day.. and I'm not sure if it's first day of play or first day of install.. I'm guessing install though

[neat violet]

also I keep wanting to spell his name Luckiel

[chilly swallow]

it took me a month to stop that lol

[neat violet]

looks at him Your name is now Kiel, I can manage that.

[chilly swallow]

hahaha

[heavy sky]

not sure tbh

[chilly swallow]

I love this line: "Some people love minerals, others hate them. It's always awkward when you give someone a gift they don't like, especially if it's a ruby. Crush you next time, @. I mean see you. Is this awkward? It's awkward now, isn't it? Bye. See you, okay? I'm shutting up.",

[heavy sky]

though pathos said he was gonna take a look at it

i doubt he'd mind if you did yourself though

but maybe let him know if you wanted to do something with it

assuming that it's all open source, of course

[chilly swallow]

lol he'd probably say, no, here, have 12 more things!

[graceful rover]

for set_farmevent <event_type>, do I need to type the <> too? first time using smapi console debugs

[chilly swallow]

I... don't know

[lunar cipher]

Oh right, I forgot RR has a two-portraits option 😄 You should be fine then, just make sure you set it correctly in the config

[graceful rover]

currently trying this out hahah

[chilly swallow]

ah probably then

[graceful rover]

whoops. turns out it's actually not needed LMAO

TIL

[chilly swallow]

whoops

oh! that's cuase it should be event_typeofeventhere

I think

[gray sapphire]

Almost done, thanks for reminding me. I got so caught up in seasonal I almost forgot

[graceful rover]

hmmm

[gray sapphire]

... I'd already done it

It's been a long day

[lunar cipher]

Haha, I know that feeling 😅 Modding takes it out of you sometimes

[chilly swallow]

wellp.. clint's dialogues are gonna get a lot of rewriting..

[gray sapphire]

Welp, time to go smooch a wizard

[quiet umbra]

yay

smooching wizards is fun

[chilly swallow]

OH! Airyn

I can't afford a request but.. could.. could I make a suggestion? looks hopeful .. like.. a mature but good looking wizard? rather than old sage or 100 year old kid? @lunar cipher

[quiet umbra]

ah...

[chilly swallow]

a girl can hope haha

[quiet umbra]

so what's your def of good looking & mature? ruggedly handsome or smoothly suave?

(tho either sounds pretty good to me 😋 )

[chilly swallow]

hmmm.. sec let me find an image

[quiet umbra]

I also have probs with the 100 yr old kids

[acoustic lintel]

Is the one in your profile a female version of Harvey?

[chilly swallow]

think.. grindelwald

[neat violet]

well, I didn't see Kiel at the bus stop, but I did get the cutscene in town.

I like this already >_>

[chilly swallow]

yaay

[gray sapphire]

Nah, it me :)

[chilly swallow]

he's awesome

[gray sapphire]

A neat comparison tho

[quiet umbra]

Kiel?

[chilly swallow]

lucikiel

she got tired of trying to remember how to spell his name lol

[quiet umbra]

oh... yes I'm a fan

[lunar cipher]

I dunno if I have time personally and I'm not sure what sort of aesthetic you'd be looking for 😅 But maybe? I won't rule it out

Have you seen Dizor's Wizard portraits? Is that something that would suit?

[chilly swallow]

haha not pushing or anything.. just thought I'd ask.. all the nice poitraits are kid looking, or look like they belong in a rocking chair

dizor? looks

[quiet umbra]

I use a revamped Dizor Wizard myself

2 versions, infact

[chilly swallow]

ooh yeah I looked at that

let me see if I can find the one I'm using atm

[lunar cipher]

Yeah, that's fair! 😄 I might be able to take a stab at it once I've finished my assignments

[chilly swallow]

I think I'm using this one atm, just the images

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/7139

didn't want the dialogue but.. the images were the closest to mature adult I could find that weren't really old lol

[quiet umbra]

yeah, hes cute, but also a bit on the youngish side for me...

[acoustic lintel]

Oh I see, did you do it or is there a program? It's just that I've seen several with their SV alter egos.

[lunar cipher]

Alternatively, DSV's Chinese Wizard is a different look that keeps his age?

[chilly swallow]

yeah he's still a bit young but

huh, I hadn't checked theirs

[quiet umbra]

Is he chinese? I saw the wizard & liked his looks, but only 2 shots is limiting

[lunar cipher]

You can check it out on our Github wiki if you want to preview it without downloading the whole thing 😄

[chilly swallow]

hmm.. not sure about him

[lunar cipher]

He's white in vanilla, but DSV adds a variant for him where he's Chinese (to keep the ambiguity over modded Abigail's parentage, since our Pierre is also Chinese 😆)

[chilly swallow]

stares at it

haha tha tmakes sense

[quiet umbra]

as a wizard or as a smoochable guy? the I'm not sure bit?

as a wizard I think he'd work, as a smoochable... I have reservations

[untold cipher]

sorry but what is dsv?

still not used to short terms

[lunar cipher]

Diverse Stardew Valley 😄

[chilly swallow]

same lol

he does look like a gandolf wizard though

[quiet umbra]

tru

[chilly swallow]

holy hannah people don't know how to write Clint

[quiet umbra]

well... until Lucikiel came along, he didn't have a lot to say

[lunar cipher]

What dialogue mods even are there for Clint except haywrites and Canon-Friendly?

[chilly swallow]

I mean.. I've found several dialogues for him but.. I've thrown a lot of it out

they make him more of an npc than he already is

[quiet umbra]

Haywrites dialogue I like generally

[chilly swallow]

same

haywrites is good

[quiet umbra]

He has a good insight to characters

(or she)

[untold cipher]

i think the only way to write Clint's dialogue was to have experience of his character lol

just saying

[chilly swallow]

well.. they're trying to change his doom and gloom some, which I get.. but instead they're turning him into.. idk

gets ready to heavily edit

[lunar cipher]

Yeah, Haywrites does good stuff! The only one I'm not keen on is Linus's, and that's just because the two available are kind of too far in either direction. I normally smush them together so that I have "sad homeless guy" at low hearts and "happy in nature guy" at high hearts

[quiet umbra]

good call

[untold cipher]

ouch... the last part might be a bit cringy

the latter i mean

[lunar cipher]

?

[untold cipher]

nvm...

[chilly swallow]

oh geeze.. that'll be a fun squish then lol

[quiet umbra]

hmm I don't think he's too sad ever, but maybe as he aged he became more vulnerable feeling?

[untold cipher]

argh... july really need to get back to work.. sigh...

[quiet umbra]

btw... I would love to find the ruffians of Stardew Valley.... who is it that throws rocks at a tent and picks pockets of passed out (injured) people?

[lunar cipher]

Yeah, that's why I smush them together with edits 😆 The sad & homeless version is a bit too grim, while the happy in nature version is a bit too upbeat

I pick 'n' choose the ones that feel closest to Linus for me

[chilly swallow]

he chose his life, he likes his life, but that doesn't mean it's an easy life... so you gotta balance that

[lunar cipher]

Exactly, yeah

[quiet umbra]

very tru

[lunar cipher]

(oops, bus is arriving, gotta go 👋)

[untold cipher]

I got like a story expansion mod need to do, and a portrait mod that I promised someone for

[chilly swallow]

now to rewrite clint

hugs Airyn, be safe

[untold cipher]

also... need to find someone who know how to do C# when comes to new region

I seen the manual and guides... and to be very honest, my head hurts reading them

[chilly swallow]

I'm scared to look at it

[untold cipher]

I am only a writer/artist... coding is way beyond my capabilites

[lunar cipher]

Thanks! 😄 (although I'm in Aus and not in Melbourne, so we're all good here 😄)

[chilly swallow]

boops

[devout pumice]

@glacial briar: care about "Would it be possible to create sth https://stardew.info/ , with various festival map and perhaps filter for mod and NPC in the modding wiki?" for ItsBenter. (4h ago)

[snow igloo]

does anyone know if there is a way to exit the loading screen? I made a lot of progress on this day and accidentally pressed something to bring up the loading screen with the "loading..." in the corner, but its been loading for a while

[chilly swallow]

uh.. if it's exited out of it.. you've probably lost that day because it wasn't saved

could be wrong though, I'm not sure

[true dock]

If it showed up with the 'Saving...' and green 'Saved!' text before you're safe, but a mod might have crashed while loading the next day

[chilly swallow]

Blueberry to the rescueee

[true dock]

If the SMAPI console shows up with red text, you'll want to share the error log here

[snow igloo]

[game] An error occurred in the base update loop: System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at StardewValley.Game1.onFadeToBlackComplete() in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 6911
at StardewValley.BellsAndWhistles.ScreenFade.UpdateFade(GameTime time) in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\BellsAndWhistles\ScreenFade.cs:line 46
at StardewValley.Game1.UpdateOther(GameTime time) in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 7090
at StardewValley.Game1._update(GameTime gameTime) in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 4759
at StardewValley.Game1.Update(GameTime gameTime) in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 3872
at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.SGame.<>c__DisplayClass40_0.<Update>b__0() in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\SGame.cs:line 185
at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.SCore.OnPlayerInstanceUpdating(SGame instance, GameTime gameTime, Action runUpdate) in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\SCore.cs:line 990

this was the only error part

[quiet umbra]

well... saved or not, if it's still on the loading screen I'd dump it and try to load it up again

[snow igloo]

aw man i made so much progress too

[quiet umbra]

I know how you feel... I lost several days in a row because of bugs

there's not much can be done tho...

after you exit the game one way or the other... then you might want to share your log here

[snow igloo]

right now i dont know if it will load up the game at all, hold on

[quiet umbra]

well, when you load the game again it blanks out the last log

[true dock]

It's best to share the whole error log, there's instructions on how at https://log.smapi.io/

[flint jackal]

Got a my first error message with smapi tonight

https://smapi.io/log/99fee8b3c9a24a889fdc73374e987eab

Sometimes the game can load up but it's choppy and feels like it stops every 5 seconds for 2 seconds

Otherwise I get that message and it won't load

Default stardew.exe works fine

[quiet umbra]

You probably need to use that 64bit patch

You are trying to run it with not enough memory available

how many mods are you using?

[flint jackal]

Just the default recommended ones and a portrait mod

[quiet umbra]

If the plain vanilla form of the game works fine, then you might be right at the border of what memory use your computer will give up in it's 32 bit form

when you load the mods in you run out

[flint jackal]

Hmm, I'll look into this more thanks

[quiet umbra]

np

this is going to be such a long, long night for me... I probably ought to get back in the game myself

[gray sapphire]

It didn't work 😦

[royal echo]

It's open source

[gray sapphire]

I have done this, and yet...

[quiet umbra]

you have problems?

[gray sapphire]

It's still the seasons sprite??

[quiet umbra]

I did the same thing for my own wizard sprite

in that I replaced the DSV wizard with my own

[gray sapphire]

Valid, don't like that wiz

He's scary tbh

[quiet umbra]

so what's wrong?

[gray sapphire]

I replaced them all, but I'm still getting the seasons sprite in the menu (I haven't met him in this save yet, it is specifically for wiz smooching)

[quiet umbra]

In the relationships menu?

[gray sapphire]

Yeah

I'm on like... The fifth day

[quiet umbra]

hmmm.... let me go look at how I handled the whole thing in detail... it's been a bit since I did it

[gray sapphire]

Ok

Thanks

[quiet umbra]

alright... I put my sprite into the Vanilla folder under Wizard in Characters in DSV... then in the config.json file I put Vanilla as my choice

the sprites were all labeled the same as the original sprites... i.e. Wizard_Fall_1.png etc

he shows up in the relationships menu as himself

Are you running Romanceable Rasmodius in conjuction with SVE ?

[gray sapphire]

I've got the sve compatible version

[quiet umbra]

You may have to do a little editng on the wizard file in SVE

[gray sapphire]

I've done the names

[quiet umbra]

I run them both myself

[gray sapphire]

Ah, welp onward

Good to know it works

[quiet umbra]

I believe (I'll look to be sure) I just did sort of the same "wizard-ectomy" on SVE as you do on DSV

replace their wizard sprite with the one you want

and their portraits with yours

[flat latch]

Does anyone know why these Custom Ore Nodes (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5966) will spawn in the mines for me but only drop nothing or stone or geodes? Never coal or clay like they're supposed to. Pastebin: https://pastebin.com/34fttdUs

Also, what could be causing horrible stuttering that literally happens on cue every second?

[gray sapphire]

... Mine doesn't have wizard sprites?

Or portraits?

[quiet umbra]

SVE? they call him Magnus instead of wizard

[gray sapphire]

Nevermind!!

I just spotted that lol

[forest jackal]

Real talk I always imagined the "M" in "M. Rasmodius" stood for "Magister", and was in fact a title

[quiet umbra]

me too!

I believe that he is the only double named character in the game now

as in first & last name

[forest jackal]

Nah

Alex

Or at the very least George and Evelyn

[quiet umbra]

what's his last name?

[forest jackal]

Mulner?

I think?

[quiet umbra]

ah...

[forest jackal]

I know Penny calls George "Mr. something"

[quiet umbra]

well, ok, so maybe not the ONLY one

[forest jackal]

I was close

Mullner

With 2 ls

[quiet umbra]

the better to be distinct

I guess double names just get kind of bulky

after all now Rasmodius is just going by Magnus in SVE

(tho I will always call him Ras in my mind)

[forest jackal]

I know sometimes Marlon referred to him by his full name

[quiet umbra]

I must have missed that

[forest jackal]

It was in like, one event I think
I saw it while I was scouring SVE's content.json for references

[quiet umbra]

Marlon deserves a last name if anyone... he's so reserved

almost formal

[forest jackal]

Speaking of last names that reminds me that Link from the Legend of Zelda's last name is canonically Link

[quiet umbra]

Well, SVE again it's Marlon LeFay

or something close

[forest jackal]

Marlon Fay

Morris and Gunther also get last names tmk

[quiet umbra]

ah... I guess Le Fay is just printed in my brain

[forest jackal]

Morris Tod and Gunther Silvian

[quiet umbra]

to distinguish them from the Vanilla characters

[errant hornet]

Gm

[forest jackal]

Yep

[quiet umbra]

I like Silvian... tho I think it's a bit fanciful for Gunther (who used to be a cowboy!!)

I kind of wish I had access to the original "storyline" for Stardew

Saloons, and cowboys and Marnie saying "Howdy"

[forest jackal]

I'm convinced CA just makes things up as he goes along lol

[quiet umbra]

yup, I'm sure it just evolved over time

[outer turret]

There ie also M Jasper. I am 99.99% certain it is intended to be a title

[forest jackal]

Plot twist: Jasper is a wizard too

[gray sapphire]

...

[forest jackal]

SVE makes the Wizard marriable yeah

[quiet umbra]

O!! how could I forget my intended! (started a new game because I wanted to try a new map) (but looked up M. Jasper at once)

[outer turret]

Well... not a wizard bit I do HC it as Magistrar and they are members of some magical society.

[forest jackal]

Magistrar, or Magister?

[outer turret]

Megister

Not the judge one

Sry walking and typing is bad

[quiet umbra]

I that the one you wanted?

[forest jackal]

Yeah SVE makes the Wizard marriable in the second to latest update

[gray sapphire]

Nope and it DOES?

[outer turret]

And Jasper dropped the title when the university dropped him

[quiet umbra]

That one belongs to DSV

[gray sapphire]

[royal echo]

would you like to test PFMAutomate-1.4.3-unofficial.1 ?

[quiet umbra]

Go back and check where you have your sprites & lables

[forest jackal]

What one?

[quiet umbra]

and also which choice you made in config.json

He should not show up at allllll

[outer turret]

Your intended? If its Jasper I'm adding a lot of content!

[forest jackal]

Shaddomoth I think the reason they went "..." was cuz of the (single) thing on the social page

Not the Wizard's sprite

[quiet umbra]

She had her own sprite and was trying to get it to show in DSV and SVE and RR I think

[chilly swallow]

huggs good morning 🙂

Lemurrrr

huggs

[errant hornet]

Eriiin

[quiet umbra]

Of course Jasper is my intended! I certainly intend to follow his storyline right on thru

[gray sapphire]

I forgot sve seasonal

[chilly swallow]

Jasper's awesome

[gray sapphire]

And I feel, a bit of a fool

[quiet umbra]

Don't it's a lot of juggling

[chilly swallow]

hugs Robyn.. it happens, trust me lol

[royal echo]

anyone using PFMAutomate here? Would you be willing to test out PFMAutomate-1.4.3-unofficial.1 ?

[gray sapphire]

Thanks

[errant hornet]

Yee, 🙋‍♀️

[royal echo]

thanks

[chilly swallow]

I do, but I won't be in game till tomorrow probably

I have determined to finish clint's dialogue

even if it is making my eyes cross now

[royal echo]

just open, wait awhile, whatever you do DO NOT GO TO SLEEP removed because crash

[quiet umbra]

are you going to give us a peek?

[royal echo]

(that is, do not save your game)

[chilly swallow]

careful there Pepoluan.. Kedi's liable to tell everybody she can't sleep tonight.. cause.. you said she didn't have to haha

[royal echo]

I'm still testing if it will blow up

[chilly swallow]

I can send it if you want when I'm done.. it' sbeing half fully rewritten

which is why it's taking me so long

[quiet umbra]

OOOO I do!!!

[royal echo]

okay it blew up on my system

do not install then

[chilly swallow]

ouch lol

[neat violet]

So, uh, anyone know how to set Grandpa's Shed to completed? I walked in just now and it's gone back to ruin.

[chilly swallow]

it works sometimes for me, and doesn't work other times

can't figure out why

[heavy sky]

sure, why not

i'll give it a try

[chilly swallow]

and if it doesn't work, I can' tdo clint's mountain rock break quest

[heavy sky]

throw it at me

[chilly swallow]

actually.. I should...

[royal echo]

as soon as I have a version that doesn't crash 😄

[heavy sky]

righto lmao

[errant hornet]

Crash? What crash?

[chilly swallow]

@rare quest just wanted to let you know.. this is a random thing I get with SVE.. sometimes I can do the shed quest, complete it, and it's great. Other times I finish gathering stuff, go to the chest to put stuff in, and it won't give me the "quest" to actually imput it. Once in a while I finish it, go in the next day, and it's back to ruins. If either of the two happen, I can't complete Clint's mountain quest either

[neat violet]

@rare quest To add onto this, I've had the quest completed for like an in-game year and mine reverted when I went in today. Thankfully, my chests are apparently still there, just not physically reachable.

[chilly swallow]

side note.. in my rewrites, Clint's gonna deal with his depression a little

[neat violet]

good!

release it as a mod, save Calcite and me from doing it lmao

[chilly swallow]

it will be slow

[heavy sky]

also @royal echo when i do test it remind me to reset automate to default tick timing settings since i have that changed as a workaround to making it bearable to work with PFM

in case i forget

[chilly swallow]

haha.. I'm still using bits of other people's squashes or I would, but.. welcome to use the bits you know are me

this squash is gonna... be good for clint, I think

[gray sapphire]

My boy!!!

[royal echo]

okie

[forest jackal]

I turned the Wizard into a woman :3

[chilly swallow]

of course you did lol

[forest jackal]

Listen

Combined Girl Mod gave me the option

And the sprite I have for Female Wizard is great, she's a bombshell

Plus she looks like an older Abby which fits

[chilly swallow]

mhmm

[plain ridge]

geeeeeeezz 494 messages

busy busy sunday

kedi be scampering

[chilly swallow]

fajitaaaa

huggs

[plain ridge]

YESSSSSSSSSSS

[plain ridge]

hugggggsss hey erin how's that map coming along?

[chilly swallow]

what map O.o

I be clint editing

[errant hornet]

Farm map?

[chilly swallow]

maps are finished lol

[plain ridge]

[chilly swallow]

just need Jay's

[plain ridge]

Oh I thought you were working on one??

Oh it was a greenhouse right

Oh it's finished

it is monday

[chilly swallow]

haha

I ended up using rikai's instead... gonna bench the aquarium for now.. I'm gonna have to learn how to do that

[plain ridge]

Ahh, I'll definitely use it when you're done though

My solo run's going to be full of your mods Erin 😂

It all started with that portrait pack

[keen crow]

[chilly swallow]

haha

Jayyy

hugggs

[plain ridge]

AND your farm mod @keen crow , of course

[keen crow]

I am done... Except for lighting. Which is a pain in the butt

[chilly swallow]

hugs you

[errant hornet]

I'm almost done with my cellar too
Only have to figure out how to add new locations

[keen crow]

Want some help?

[errant hornet]

YES

I just don't want to break anything

[keen crow]

Which part are you stuck on? The TMX bit or the CP loading bit?

[errant hornet]

Adding it from CP

[heavy sky]

lmao wizard husband

[keen crow]

"CustomLocations": [
{
"Name": "Custom_MinecartCavern",
"FromMapFile": "Assets/Maps/NewLocations/MinecartCavern.tbin",
},
],

You'll want something like this in your content file for CP

[errant hornet]

Uh, what is this?

[keen crow]

It's how CP loads your custom location after it's been added to TMX

[royal echo]

Sorry, apparently you have to update both PFM and PFMAutomate

[errant hornet]

I don't use TMXL or .tmx file, will it break?

[keen crow]

Uuuuh, I have no idea. I only use .tbin files and loaded them in from TMXL

I don't know how you'd add in custom locations without it?

[errant hornet]

"Action" : "Load" First I wrote this

[keen crow]

I don't think custom locations can be loaded with just content patcher alone? Might be worth asking in #making-mods-general though since there'd be some more experienced people in there than me xD

[errant hornet]

xD

[keen crow]

TMX is super easy to made a custom location for though, all you have to write is something like this

{
"loadLate": true,

"addMaps": [
{
"name": "MinecartCavern",
"file": "assets/MinecartCavern.tbin"
},
],
}

[heavy sky]

hmm? i think i have the most recent version, though

at least, SMAPI didn't tell me to update

[royal echo]

nonono ... the changes I made to speed up the lookups apparently needs to be done in PFM, not PFMAutomate

or both of them, actually

[heavy sky]

ah i see

yeah that's fine

question though

if i change PFM versions, will i actually be able to change back without it being an issue?

in case something doesn't work properly

[errant hornet]

Soo.. I'll use both CP and TMXL or just TMXL?

[keen crow]

Both

[errant hornet]

Okaii

[neat violet]

motherFU--

so apparently if your game force-sleeps you from exhaustion while you're holding a Crop Transplant pot, it crashes the save process.

[keen crow]

Just remember to make your TMXL manifest have a dependency for your CP version

[neat violet]

Awesome.

F***ing awesome.

[keen crow]

Oh that sounds...

[neat violet]

Oh indeed, because I've spent like two hours rearranging all my trees.

All of that, gone.

F you game, you can't force me to sleep, I crash when I want

IT'S 3AM HERE, WHAT YOU GONNA DO NOW, HUH

[chilly swallow]

LMFAO

poor Tia

[keen crow]

I have to walk half an hour both ways just to have a ten minute meeting, if that, in a few hours...

I miss phone meetings

[royal echo]

yup, should be. as long as you don't save. so if it's not working well, immediately exit and revert

[chilly swallow]

oh dear god Jay lol

[keen crow]

Being more on topic... This is how the house is going... I dunno if I like the size of it. But I also have a lot of furniture mods I want to use

[heavy sky]

got it

[chilly swallow]

I like it so far

[heavy sky]

i typically back up my saves and my previous mod list before i make changes to stuff anyway

also in the case i forgot there's the save backup utility as well

[royal echo]

Here you go: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18vd8lYX6YFFSM4aDdUmDJsyxNT-hdDTs?usp=sharing

[chilly swallow]

... trying to figure this out.. 2 particular clint mods.. end every line they gave him with... "ok, no more distractions, back to work" or "you have fun today @! "

makes no sense

[royal echo]

@errant hornet you can try the files there 👆

[errant hornet]

Thanks! I'll try it once I figure out how to add some new map

{
  "loadLate": true,
  "addMaps": [
    {
      "name": "Cellar_2",
      "file": "assets/Cellar_2.tbin"
    },
  ],
}``` Jay is this good?

[keen crow]

Should be, yeah!

[errant hornet]

{
"CustomLocations": [
    {
        "Name": "Custom_Cellar_2",
        "FromMapFile": "assets/Cellar_2.tbin",
    },
}``` And this?

[plain ridge]

Rip tia and and jay

[keen crow]

Should be... I know Rikai had a bit of a problem with loading something because the assets weren't in even more folders. But pretty sure that was tilesheets, so you should be good to go!

[errant hornet]

Oookaaay...

[plain ridge]

Wow I really like the windows in the bottom right

[neat violet]

...

Okay, what the F***

[chilly swallow]

uh oh

[keen crow]

.

[neat violet]

I now have a different JSON scramble... and it's scrambled EVERYTHING

[chilly swallow]

O.o

wtf

[royal echo]

ahhhh... the Jason Souffle

[chilly swallow]

yeah but.. she shouldn't have gotten one

she didn't add anything, just had her game crash

[neat violet]

I mean, I should have, because I added mods. But when I played through the day just now it was significantly less.

[royal echo]

it seems that ESA priority just went up a notch

[chilly swallow]

oh!

[neat violet]

I haven't changed anything between the crash and now.

[chilly swallow]

so it crashed and gave you more?

yeesh

[neat violet]

yep.

[plain ridge]

That's horrible...

[royal echo]

don't forget to change your config to do per-tick!

[plain ridge]

Exhausting I mean

[chilly swallow]

I hate json shuffle x.x

yeah that's exhausting for sure

[errant hornet]

Pepoluan, which one of these in SpaceCore config stops it from messing the menu up?

[neat violet]

It's never been this bad for me. It's usually just certain classes of items.

[chilly swallow]

yeah I think the biggest shuffle I've gotten is all my wines being turned into something weird

they still sold though so.. eh

[errant hornet]

I'm using 1.7.3 and never got any shuffles 😛

[chilly swallow]

if I could run that with the updated stuff, I sooooo would lol

[royal echo]

Try "WalletLegacyStyle": true

hopefully with JA2 / ESA , souffles will be a thing of the dark past

[chilly swallow]

I sure hope so

[royal echo]

Evil Souffle!

[chilly swallow]

souffle!

[royal echo]

IS EEBIL

[chilly swallow]

but.. iz it.. a lie?

[royal echo]

IZ NOT KEK

[chilly swallow]

hahahaha

oh man, just cried laughing

[neat violet]

Shut it down and rebooted. Nope. Still uber-scrambled. Goddamnit.

[chilly swallow]

ugh 😦

I'm sorry 😦 hugs you

[plain ridge]

Sorry we can't help tia

Maybe you should take a break/leave this for tomorrow seems really complicated

Wouldn't want to make a mistake right

[neat violet]

Like throwing my computer out the window?

[keen crow]

Grrr, can never figure out if I should make rooms that stack on top of each other the same size or smaller/bigger

[chilly swallow]

please don't.. I like talking to you lol

[royal echo]

is a tardis ... always make bigger

[keen crow]

Bottom room looks weird the same width 🤣

[plain ridge]

Make 28 rooms of just ladders until the 30th floor which is a classroom

[keen crow]

Pfft

[neat violet]

Wayside School? 😛

[royal echo]

I like your supervillainy mind

[plain ridge]

Feels like I'm in the ER waiting room for Tia's save file

[chilly swallow]

lol

[neat violet]

I'm trying something that might work. If it does, I will be sure to tell you how very stupid it is.

Nope. Didn't work. I don't understand.

[plain ridge]

YES IT IS

You got it 😂😂😂

I was just thinking about it recently, I miss those books

[keen crow]

Yay or nay, top is the little indoor garden from seasonal that I'm far too attached to

[neat violet]

yay!

[errant hornet]

Yay!

[keen crow]

I've attached it to the kitchen

[glacial briar]

@neat violet patpat

[chilly swallow]

I like

[plain ridge]

The middle area with the doors are confusing me

[keen crow]

Middle bit? The room under the garden?

[plain ridge]

Oh ok

[neat violet]

Someone with savefile knowledge, is this what's supposed to be in there?

[plain ridge]

I thought the ascending floor boards were stairs

And then the doors open to that lower level so I was like but how