archived-modded-support

[keen crow]

Uuuhm, one moment

[stiff fjord]

Whole new city and people

[keen crow]

There is Ridgeside, Expanded, Boarding House, Deep Woods, Aquarium, Lunna, Museum Expansion, Garden Valley, Walk to the Desert, East Scarpe, and Mermaid Island that I use all together

[vivid ether]

sheesh thanks lol

also is it normal for smapi to take 3 years to open?

[keen crow]

Depends on the amount of mods

[vivid ether]

i have around 50 i think

[robust bison]

specs?

[vivid ether]

i5 8th gen laptop, 16gb ram not great gpu

[robust bison]

it might take a minute or 2 then yeah

[dull kiln]

i used to think 90 mods were a lot but then i see some people here with 500+

[keen crow]

Mwhahaha

[errant hornet]

...?

[topaz matrix]

someone has 800 mod iicr

[dull kiln]

the other day i saw someone say they had 900+ 920 i think lmao

[topaz matrix]

yikes

[urban briar]

ayo @frigid compass how many themes have you made

[keen crow]

That would probably be me... Although I think I'm almost at 1000 now

[keen crow]

The descriptions are so long

[unreal stratus]

kayamods.jpg

[frigid compass]

if you count the 2 from the first mod version, only 3 LMAO

[urban briar]

wait, only 3 ??

[topaz matrix]

what!!!!!!

[urban briar]

i am shook

[frigid compass]

o holy...

why?

[errant hornet]

Unsure why Raffadax wrote these that long

[urban briar]

well i might consider installing one if i like one

took a good look at my UI which i don't usually do and was like "damm das kinda boring"

[errant hornet]

Now I doubt to translate this

[keen crow]

I mixed together a few UI mods I love into a personal version of them

[urban briar]

I used to do that in Minecraft lmao

i made some UI of my own there as well

[frigid compass]

||spoiler: Stardew Themes will have this too 😉||

[keen crow]

[urban briar]

hrmmmm

[plain ridge]

Jay's load time must be like an hour

[keen crow]

...

Roughly

[plain ridge]

omg really??

[keen crow]

Like 30 minutes for SMAPI to finish loading, same to get into my save 🤷‍♀️

[urban briar]

I'd like to give an F of sorrow to Jay, from the entire community

[keen crow]

https://smapi.io/log/34892e76b8ec44018945adcacef833dd This is a log detailing the times 🤣

[quick nova]

I'm trying to get SDV 64bit running but keep getting errors with PyTK and TMXL Map Toolkit on startup, is anyone else having this problem? (and they are up to date)

[plain ridge]

i guess mp would be impossible 😅

[keen crow]

I only play multi with my friend and she doesn't use mods, so my mod count for mp is ... about 120

[frigid compass]

I feel quite impressive that I plan to do all of this using just Content Patcher

[pulsar river]

hey! could you post your SMAPI log?

[royal echo]

!log

[native dragon]

@quick nova Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[quick nova]

YES one moment

@pulsar river @royal echo thank you for reminding me the obvious 😛 https://smapi.io/log/e67bbddf5530402f83a545596155b62b

[royal echo]

I always jump on the chance to annoy people 😆

[quick nova]

@royal echo Red Forman would have loved you 😉

[keen crow]

I'd recommend moving the depot folder elsewhere. If you ever redownload it for whatever reason and forget to move it, it'll completely delete itself beforehand, thus erasing everything inside that folder

[quick nova]

good point

[royal echo]

all the side effect stuff happening when dabbing in SDV64 makes me very reluctant to try it out 😱

[quick nova]

I know... and I keep reading comments from people saying "Works fine for me" yeah... well good for you haha

[plain ridge]

what side effects? I didn't have any issues

[quick nova]

there ya go! one of those!

hehe

[plain ridge]

i'm curious 😛 i wonder if it's a specific mod now

[pulsar river]

maybe it's a .net framework thing too?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/5229310/system-badimageformatexception-could-not-load-file-or-assembly idk what this means but maybe similar?

[keen crow]

Have you tried deleting the two problem mods completely and then reinstalling them?

When you update a mod how do you do it? Copying it over the original folder in your mods folder?

[quick nova]

I tried flushing the mods several times

[keen crow]

Mhm

[pulsar river]

edit: nvm sry it doesn't actually

[quick nova]

Yep it fits but im running the proper thing

I have to be honest, I've been using Vortex to install this stuff, but im trying a full manual install now

will see how that goes

[pulsar river]

i hope it works out! :( i used vortex, and was able to migrate my mods over to 64-bit. but i installed SMAPI manually

[quick nova]

yep that I had to do

[keen crow]

Oooh Vortex

I personally don't recommend using Vortex at all for SV, can mess up files and all that. Definitely wouldn't recommend using it for 64 either

[quick nova]

vortex does something funny with the -x64 executable that ends up in the folder anyway even though it's installing smapi 3.10.1 came out explicitely to fix that.

[plain ridge]

you already tried running 64bit without any other mods right?

[quick nova]

makes sense, seemed like the easy way when I first started mods but now im just being lazy... and I have no excuse I've worked IT for +20years

I just hoped it would be one less thing to worry about... but even then they cant even manage dependecies automatlicly... I mean why the hell would you go through all this integration with the website and mod download/manager to fall short at the last minute.... anyways....

yep works fine with no mods

I'm just trying to get SVE working in 3 player slipt screen without OOM errors

FU XNA! oops.. sorry that came out by itself

[pulsar river]

ahh really?? rikai taught me how to manage dependencies w/ vortex. you drag the filetree icon of the mod you want to load before/after a mod, to the other mod icon

[quick nova]

yes and that is stupid

[keen crow]

Rikai is our Vortex expert xD

[quick nova]

why do you have to do that? they have a list of dependecy on the website when you download each mod, why in hell would they not set those dependecies automaticly?

[pulsar river]

oohhh you're right!! it's even in the .json files right :c

[quick nova]

Why did someone ELSE have to create a mod to download dependecies automaticly... you know but im just a perfectionist i guess

[neat violet]

https://tenor.com/view/itsart-art-gif-4621521

[quick nova]

and worst of all WHY does the dependency config not get AUTOMATICLY copied over to mod variants you isntall !??!?!?!?!?!?!

you have to redo it everytime there are updates... im annoyed

[stiff fjord]

you and me both

[pulsar river]

[quick nova]

hehehe

[pulsar river]

i take what i can get i remember when mod organizers weren't a thing

dark days...esp for games like skyrim

[quick nova]

Oh man you think those were the days?

I've been installing mods since Doom 1

[pulsar river]

i didn't know doom had mods

t-that's older than me i think but wow it goes way back

[quick nova]

hehe, duke nukem too, quake 3,

Dayof defeat and Counter strike started as mods for Half life

awwwww..... but it was easier back then you just had to copy a single folder, there werent frameworks and all but I guess it was harder to developp those mods

[pulsar river]

respect.... i had no idea

[quick nova]

If I keep trading my age for respect i'm gonna get old hahaha

[pulsar river]

LOL oops sorry! that's really interesting, i didn't realise modding goes back that long. that's neat

[quick nova]

So, stupid question, but... if I don't use vortex, how do I set the "start order" like in vortex? or is that just a vortex thing?

do i have to worry about it?

My guts say yes but...

[pulsar river]

like for a mod to load after another one?

[quick nova]

yup

let me guess... folder name

[errant hornet]

SMAPI loads mods by their folders' alphabetical order

[pulsar river]

you can edit the manifest.json as well

[quick nova]

oh god I thought so, does it sort numbers properly or does 11 come before 2 ?

[pulsar river]

Check if you are using a mod that modifies the houses file, like a seasonal buildings mod, or HD Sprites. If you're using a buildings mod that is overriding IF2R's "blanking" of the greenhouse, you can open [CP] Immersive Farm 2 Remastered/manifest.json in a text editor and add an optional dependency on that mod. For example, adding a dependency on Elle's Seasonal Buildings to make sure IF2R goes last:
"Dependencies": [
{
"UniqueID": "Elle.SeasonalBuildings",
"IsRequired": false
}
]

(This shouldn't actually be necessary for Elle's buildings, just an example.) You can find the UniqueID of the mod you want to load after by opening its manifest.json in its own mod folder, and checking the UniqueID field there.

[errant hornet]

^^ Useful to prevent some conflictions

[quick nova]

Ohh i see

[pulsar river]

this is just an example, but open the manifest.json of the mod you want to load last. and then add in the smapi id of the other mods that will be loading before it

[quick nova]

yup iv'e seen that when trying to "mod" a mod

but vortex didnt use it so I asumed it was useless

[quick nova]

S̶o̶ ̶s̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶a̶ ̶m̶a̶n̶u̶a̶l̶ ̶i̶n̶s̶t̶a̶l̶l̶.̶ ̶W̶o̶r̶k̶s̶ ̶f̶i̶n̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶t̶h̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶m̶o̶d̶s̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶u̶t̶e̶ ̶T̶M̶X̶ ̶L̶o̶a̶d̶e̶r̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶P̶y̶T̶K̶ ̶a̶r̶e̶ ̶i̶n̶v̶o̶v̶l̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶t̶ ̶g̶i̶v̶e̶s̶ ̶e̶r̶r̶o̶r̶s̶

CORRECTION Manual install works fine now and no errors. I had to redownload the mods manually. If thought I could copy the mods unzipped by vortex manually but that doesn't work either. Vortex does something to them, you have to redownload manually from nexus and unzip straight in the mods folder.

Thanks everyone for assisting me getting me to this point.

[plain ridge]

Buh... Monday

You're making a vineyard area?

[bronze locust]

Is there a mod that expands the children system? And makes them not just pointlessly walk around forever?

[neat plaza]

child to npc

[keen crow]

Indeed. I have the winery mod

[plain ridge]

But it has issues rn eh

[keen crow]

Child to NPC has problems right now, yeah

[bronze locust]

Define "problems"

[plain ridge]

Gonna give Blue Moon vineyard a run for their money

[bronze locust]

"Compatibility
Works with Stardew Valley 1.4 on Linux/Mac/Windows.
This mod uses Harmony, so there may be interference with other mods using Harmony to patch the same methods. If you notice any issues, please let me know"

[neat plaza]

broken children etc

[bronze locust]

I think i see what you mean

[keen crow]

Did you see the big beehive area I did? xD

[plain ridge]

The squares near the silo area?

[keen crow]

Nope that's little beehive

[plain ridge]

Lil beehive

[keen crow]

Big boi

[lapis void]

!compat

[native dragon]

See https://smapi.io/mods for a list of mods updated for the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley. :)

[keen crow]

For the optimal 16 flower layout

[lapis void]

^ this has the unofficial update of child to npc

[plain ridge]

OHHHH I think I've seen what you're talking about

[bronze locust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5348

[lapis void]

it does work with 1.5 but i would still very much say use at your own risk

[plain ridge]

Lmao OF COURSE your massive farm would have an optimal beehive area 😂

[lapis void]

that requires child to npc

[bronze locust]

This might be what i need. Making them atleast not 100% uselss

[keen crow]

Heck yeah

[bronze locust]

Are you kidding me

[plain ridge]

Oh is this near the bridge?

[keen crow]

Next to the vineyard too

[lapis void]

every mod like that for kids does, child to npc is just a framework

[keen crow]

It's here

[plain ridge]

Ahhhh, YEAH that's gonna look nice

[keen crow]

Moved the garbage, put another little well area underneath the golden clock hill

[lapis void]

again, you can try it, just back up your saves and be prepared for bugs

[plain ridge]

The tractor can't be used in the vineyard tho can it?

[keen crow]

Once I get my hands on Blue's planter mod, will remove the deco ones

[keen crow]

Not really, unless you have walk through trellis or no clip on

[plain ridge]

Oh yeah I saw the planter mod thing, that's gonna look great 8U

[bronze locust]

Is there a mod that replaces the dog/Cat pet with a rabbit?

[plain ridge]

Yeah I figured -- wondering if the tractor should be moved closer to crops BC it seems like it'd be hard to drive it there now

[keen crow]

Mhm, might be right. I've got it up here right now

[lapis void]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8521

[keen crow]

Oo big bunny

[lapis void]

no cat/dog that i've seen, but giant bun friend

[plain ridge]

That is a Clifford sized pet 😂

[bronze locust]

THat is a replacement for horse

not pet

But thanks

[lapis void]

there are lots of really cute rabbit skins for adopt and skin too

i'm aware

[lapis void]

^

[plain ridge]

I have no clue where you could move the tractor and/or golden clock hill to though 😅 but if you figure it out,

[keen crow]

I knoooow

[bronze locust]

What is "adopt and skin"

?

[plain ridge]

Maybe you can replace that area with the big beehive thing, and just have two vineyard areas side by side?

[lapis void]

a mod, you can find the latest update for it on the compat page we linked you earlier

i think because you can raise rabbits in your coop, people haven't really made rabbit pet replacements

!compat if you need that link

[native dragon]

See https://smapi.io/mods for a list of mods updated for the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley. :)

[plain ridge]

lmao maybe if the cabins are closer to the crops you can swap them?

[bronze locust]

thanks

[lapis void]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/search/?BH=1&RH_ModList=nav:true,home:false,type:0,user_id:0,game_id:1303,advfilt:true,include_adult:true,show_game_filter:false,page_size:20,open:true,search[description]:rabbit

for skins

[bronze locust]

wat

[plain ridge]

Tossing ideas around

[lapis void]

yup, you need the unofficial

i am one of the maintainers for the mod, the author made this update, it's just in beta. it's safe to use

if you want to use child to npc you'll need an unofficial update for that too

[keen crow]

Could put the garage back were it was.. and make that new garage place a little well area with the golden clock in there? Like a little garden before we get into the farm maybe?

[lapis void]

in this community, if modders disappear for a long time and their mods break with a game or SMAPI update, the community will often make unofficial updates to make the mods usable again. that's what that site is for

[plain ridge]

Where was the garage before again? I don't remember

[keen crow]

Under the little cliff thingy

[bronze locust]

is there a like guide on how i can DIY it into existance

i can't find one i like

[keen crow]

This

[lapis void]

a rabbit skin you mean?

[bronze locust]

Yeah

[lapis void]

!unpack

[native dragon]

See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files#Unpack_game_files for instructions on how to unpack XNB files in order to edit the assets inside!

[keen crow]

With Adopt 'n' Skin you just name the skin after the animal

[lapis void]

first you would unpack the vanilla cat or dog file,

then you would edit it in your program of choice and put it in the adopt and skin folder

name it cat_1 or dog_1, whichever pet it will be replacing

[plain ridge]

LOL OHHH I assumed that was the latest spot for it lol, ok so you're replacing it with a well?

[keen crow]

Yep, since the water is a little bit away from the crops unless you take it from the animals water troughs xD
I'll move it around again and see what looks better 🤣

[plain ridge]

😂 the water troughs

[lapis void]

if you like any coop rabbit skins, you could probably size them up to fit the cat or dog spritesheet, just make sure all the bunny animations line up with the cat and dog ones and the png is the same size as cat/dog

[bronze locust]

what is an animation sheet

[lapis void]

a spritesheet is an image the game uses

so the cat and dog have their own sets of images, which are the animations the cat or dog does

[bronze locust]

sounds liek lots of work

however. my insomnia and boredom will power me theough that!

[lapis void]

to change it entirely into a rabbit, yeah it's a bit of work. just recoloring the basic cat or dog is easy tbh

[bronze locust]

YEah i realise! Proberly just gonna yoink the files for the coop rabbits

if i can do that

[lapis void]

yeah, you're gonna have to size them up so they match up with the sizes of the cat or dog sprites though

[bronze locust]

THat sounds simple enough

[lapis void]

i don't remember offhand what the size is for cat/dog but generally most things in SDV are made up of "tiles" that are 16x16 pixels

some things like animals don't fit into that exactly, but they'll still be cut up into boxes of all the same size that each frame of the cat or dog fits inside

[bronze locust]

found this image

THey are almost the same size

[warped yoke]

vanilla cat tilesheet

weird that it's kept under 'monsters'. I don't see the dog sheet. if that's under a non-monsters folder I'm going to lol

anyway if you get that image edited to what you want I or someone in #making-mods-general will help you make a content patcher pack to put it in the game

Come to think of it ... this would be good for my Wei Wuxian stardew cosplay.

[vagrant shadow]

Hey

Could somebody help me with something about Stardew Valley Expanded??

How could I trigger the Boulder event of Clint??

I already have both keys, I'm practically on endgame and I can't proceed with that

[lapis void]

that isn't vanilla cat haha

that's an old, unused file

[unreal stratus]

It's under animals

cat ca2 cat3

[rare quest]

Walk to the railroad between 6am and 3pm.

[heavy sky]

got a bit of an issue here with the tempus globes theft of the winter star adds... they only sprinkle a 3*3 area, and i can only plant crops in those areas. however, they're gone the next day

also, i'm doing it on grampleton if it matters. no idea if you need to do it at the farm for it to work or what, guess that's worth testing

[robust bison]

wintercrops have been bugged with 64 bit

[heavy sky]

ah i see

will it work outside of winter?

[robust bison]

a shame

it should

[heavy sky]

allright there's that at least

also the ppja/pfm stuff i've got adds a couple winter crops, so i can do that at least

though, the 3*3 area also might be a separate bug

i'm assuming

the description advertises it as 5*5 area

[quiet umbra]

there's a mod called Crops Anytime Anywhere

[heavy sky]

could use that as a workaround i suppose

thanks for the suggestion

[quiet umbra]

np

[heavy sky]

still doesn't solve the dimension issue, though 🤔

not entirely, anyway

[quiet umbra]

always something 😆

[heavy sky]

yup lmao

🤷‍♂️

i'm kind of used to things being a bit buggy playing with enough mods tbh

but the additional content is kind of worth it as long as nothing game breaking happens

or crashing

still pretty playable, but i've got some weird misplaced textures, a couple of json shuffled items, and i've run into a few bugs regarding quests and cutscenes, and occasionally weirdness with crops like this as well

weird thing is, the json shuffled items didn't get shuffled until i started playing my old modded save i used in 1.4 that i updated everything for for 1.5.4

but i haven't really added many mods, maybe 2 or 3

i got rid of a few things that were being problematic, but they were all things that shouldn't have effected items, with one possible exception being teh's fishing overhaul mod

which seems to have broken for 1.5.4, so i can't really use it anymore

i'm not actually certain if it added or removed anything, though

i'd thought that mod was purely systematic

[vivid ether]

gotta love mods
put them in the wrong order in the folder and you start catching pigs out the ocean

[heavy sky]

can you actually put a pig in your inventory like that

[vivid ether]

if you try hard enough

[chrome cosmos]

does anyone know if eemie is here in the server? or have they stopped making/updating their mods? :o

[keen crow]

Eemie? Her mods are updated by Minerva now

[heavy sky]

on that note, is paradigmshift here as well? i'd like to point out the tempus globe weirdness to him as well if he is

[keen crow]

Para left

[chrome cosmos]

oohh, i wanted to check if i could ask for permission to update her darker wood craftables to 1.5

[heavy sky]

ah, so theft of the winter star is left out in the cold then i guess

too bad

since both chase and paradigm left

[keen crow]

Both Para and Spacechase are done modding sadly

[heavy sky]

man, a lot of people sure left didn't they

did anything happen or did they just get tired of doing it?

[robust bison]

they lost their passion for SDV and have moved on to other things

[heavy sky]

i see, happens sometimes

can't blame them for it and they made a bunch of neat stuff for free

[unreal stratus]

Awh, I didn't want to go to bed sad

Para & Space

[plain ridge]

Oba going to bed without a struggle?

[quiet umbra]

json shuffles are simply part of using Json Assets... especially if you have machines that change one thing into another.

or any machines, really... I use the mushroom propogators and you might be suprised at the things I've havested

[bronze locust]

So i finally figured out changing the resolution on the rabbit image. Too bad this is a blurry mess now! @lapis void Can you help me find out how to make it a not pixelated mess?

[robust bison]

resolution at what stage?

[bronze locust]

Looks like this for context!

[robust bison]

what's the canvas size

[bronze locust]

128 x 288

Like the standard dog

im trying to redo its sprite

because i want a rabbit instead of a dog!

[unreal stratus]

I need to rest my poor old bones 🧓

[bronze locust]

i also realise that #making-mods-general might be a better fit for something like this!

[robust bison]

it should be 64x112

[bronze locust]

You sure. im trying to make the rabbits sprite be overwriting the dogs

and i think that the image scale needs to stay the same!

[plain ridge]

Gnight oba

Grandpamoose

[quiet umbra]

big rabbit... cat might be a better fit

[bronze locust]

ok

[quiet umbra]

that gave me an image of an old moose rocking in his rocking chair

[plain ridge]

perfect

Ugh i woke up super late, was an hour late for work

[quiet umbra]

Grandpa moose

[plain ridge]

even tho it's wfh 😂 💀

[plain ridge]

YES

shaddo gets my vision

[heavy sky]

seems like some of the ginger island items are shuffled... i imagine that could be somewhat problematic

[warped yoke]

ooh, I wonder if the dog is big enough to have two bunnies following each other? that would be cute++

[glacial briar]

Shuffle only affects modded items.

[vagrant shadow]

Thank, I already solved that error of Clint. Now, I'm stuck in the bush just in front of Enchanted Grove

[heavy sky]

so those items on the ground, are they modded items?

[heavy sky]

i picked them up from right there

[vagrant shadow]

What could I do now? D:

[bronze locust]

i now see what you mean @quiet umbra

[quiet umbra]

I have noticed that all the basic game machines don't shuffle... likc cheese, mayo etc

[oblique barn]

space's mods are now maintained by pathos. Feel free to file a bug report on the github. 🙂

[quiet umbra]

But if you use Json Assets, you are using modded items, right?

[mild sun]

I think basic machines are specially checked by JA when it attempts to mitigate shuffle

But modded in machines JA doesn’t know to check

[oblique barn]

Only ones added by json assets. Vanilla items are still vanilla. 😛

[heavy sky]

@oblique barn will do, thanks for the heads up

[glacial briar]

Bascially, Json creates an index when it loads by assigning a number to every modded item you have. Different types of items get put in different lists, so that's why machines might shuffle or objects might shuffle.

If you add new items, Json makes its new list but the numbers are now different from what they were before (my best guess is the lists are alphabetized)

And the description mix-ups I believe come fromt he game remembering what that item had before it got mixed; can't swear to it.

[oblique barn]

Basically, when mods add or remove items, it causes the item IDs of remaining items to get reordered according to some algorithm, therefore any json assets items you had previously may now be a different ID and appear as different items. This does not apply to vanilla items as their IDs are in the base game and static

[glacial briar]

[quiet umbra]

yup

did not really know the mechanics, but knew Json shuffle is because of a basic shuffle

[oblique barn]

JA2 was going to rectify that, but with the creators making an exodus, that is currently on ice until someone knowledgeable enough and with enough free time to do it chooses to do so. :/

But that is a huuuuuge amount of work

[quiet umbra]

or a complely different approach to handling modded items

I have noticed that mayo is remarably stabe, even with modded items like Dino eggs

[glacial briar]

I would think to make JA2 you'd have to store an array somewhere that only gets longer, never shorter, because you'd have to prerserve he index of removed items.

[quiet umbra]

or were dinosaurs always part of game?

[glacial briar]

Dinos are vanilla 😛

[quiet umbra]

ah.. that's why... I am now Dino ranching 😆 great reskin makes them look like triceratops & they go "Glorp"

[vagrant shadow]

Could you help me? I'm stucked here D': it's Enchanted Grove from SVE

[glacial briar]

::thinking about how long a JA array would be for someone constantly adding or removing mods like Jay::

[quiet umbra]

there would have to be a limit

[glacial briar]

I'm no help with SVE, sorry. 😦

[chrome cosmos]

OOH calcite! ive been meaning to tell you but i kept forgetting, joja blackmarket shows up twice on smapi when it has an update, and i just wanted to let you know :3

[quiet umbra]

use Destroyable Bushes?

[glacial briar]

Ah, that's... i don't want to say "by design" but that's working as intended because I didn't think the manifests through. XD

Thanks for the heads up! I'll fix that if there's another update.

[chrome cosmos]

oooh okay cool, just wanted to bring it to your attention :D

[mild sun]

JA already stores that array ( really a dict of id to name)

[glacial briar]

If no one pops up who knows SVE and you don't want to try a mod like destroyable bushes, I know SVE has both a discord and a reddit.

[glacial briar]

Right, but that array is only ever as long as it needs to be (much like a wizard) because it recreates it each time. If it had to preserve index spots, it could be very long indeed.

[mild sun]

Just needs to use it during ID assignment instead of trying to fix all the ids after the fact

[glacial briar]

That thinking is how the shuffle happened in the first place. 🙂

[mild sun]

Really? I think the only issue with preserving ids is that many objects need multiple for the different sprites they use

And if that range changes then everything gets messed up

[glacial briar]

Think of someone like Jay, with 900 mods. Now think about how many times they have to add or remove or update those mods.

[mild sun]

Sure, mostly ads for jay i think

[glacial briar]

Their array can never be shortened if IDs are preserved.

Well, if we want to continue this we should probably hop over to making mods were Pepulon can back me up. 🙂

[mild sun]

Int_MAX is large, but it would be a memory cost

Oh yeah fair

[plain ridge]

so how'd it go with the shed and stuff @keen crow ?

[dire fractal]

How does one type a "shift + L" hotkey into a config json. Everything I've tried has failed

[quiet umbra]

Maybe look at Zoom mod I know they use one set of keys for basic, then hold shift & keys for another movement

[dire fractal]

So many zoom mods x'D

[plain ridge]

oh that's cool 😮 was trying to come up with a mod/setting that requires 2 buttons at the same time, but couldn't come up with any lol

[quiet umbra]

I think you might have to change something in the actual content file?

[plain ridge]

good thinking shaddo

[quiet umbra]

ha... wait til you try it to say that....

[dire fractal]

?

...it just says DPadup... I think that's a controller thing?

[keen crow]

I didnt realise how late it was, made dinner and now i'm tired so it didn't go far too 🤣

[keen crow]

So, many, times

[heavy sky]

it's long enough just with 180 tbh

it put me off wanting to update my mods to play 1.5.4 for a while lmao

it pretty much took me 12 hours straight to update, configure all my mods and remove/fix problems

it's still a work in progress, but it's mostly sorted now

[keen crow]

Mine are all put into folder categories as well so there's added minutes just looking for the mod 🤣

[heavy sky]

some problems don't show their faces for a while, so then you've gotta figure out and fix it later on

yup, it takes a while, that's just the way it is i guess 🤷‍♂️

a streamlined updating process by using SMAPI might ease that burden a little bit tbh, if it's reasonably possible

[dire fractal]

Looking at zoommod didn't help bc it uses oem buttons not shift?

And some kind of Dpad thing

[keen crow]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Key_Bindings#Multi-key_bindings

Does this help?

[plain ridge]

oh smort

[heavy sky]

yup, it uses oem stuff

just curious, but is anyone else aware that the 64 bit version of the game seems to bypass steam requirements?

i forgot to log in to steam, and i was still able to launch it no problem lmao

effectively meaning anyone could pirate the game easily using this method

[dire fractal]

Dang it am I just dumb? I typed "RightShift + J" and it seems like that should work according to the wiki.

[plain ridge]

it doesn't work?

[dire fractal]

No

[plain ridge]

maybe wrong smapi version?

says 3.9+ right

[dire fractal]

I'm using the latest one? I'll check if the mod is old

[plain ridge]

worse comes to worst, you can do this https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Key_Bindings#Find_the_code_for_a_key to find out if capitals are even possible

the example just mentions CTRL after all

[dire fractal]

Nah capitals aren't a thing smapi sees them the same as regular

[plain ridge]

rip...

maybe you can use ctrl+letter instead of capitals i guess?

[dire fractal]

So I'm trying to change the keybindings for ToDew and Better Junimos. Better Junimos might be too old to support this, but the to dew manifest says 3.9

[plain ridge]

so ToDew should be able to detect capital letters

[dire fractal]

But in the config it says L and activates with l

[oblique barn]

s'why i use vortex. Manual became unbearable for me at a couple hundred, and i'm at 700ish now.

[plain ridge]

you don't have other mods that have a keybind for l right?

[dire fractal]

Nah

[quiet umbra]

hmm... I've been trying to find the mod I use in my mod list... because I do use a combo of keys...

[heavy sky]

what's vortex?

[alpine ginkgo]

It's Nexus's mod manager.

[glacial briar]

You must never go there simba.

[heavy sky]

aha okay

that might be a good thing to do then

[dire fractal]

I always find it hilarious that everyone except rikai usually says no to vortex

[alpine ginkgo]

It's a hit or miss, from what I've heard. Some people like it, it causes problems for other people.

[plain ridge]

the vortex expert

the vortexpert

[heavy sky]

well, i have a bad history with the old nexus mod manager, i know that much

it would crash a lot and there would be other instabilities, and it was slow

at the very least, using it to update your mods for you would be helpful

after that, getting an idea of what you wanna grab from smapi.io/mods is all you need to do

would at the least help make it a much easier process to get updated, if nothing else

not sure if vortex is better then the old nexus mod manager or not, but if it was at least better it might be doable

in my experience generally things that try to be global like that e.g. retroarch in best case scenarios are a mixed bag

they've got some good about them and some bad

but they also have a tendency to take a long time to actually become decent software too

was the same thing with retroarch i'd say

[quiet umbra]

hmm... I found it & it is indeed Zoom Levels, no matter what it says in re Dpad, controllers or whatever you can use the regular keyboard for it

oem just means the original equipment... all the keys are oem really

u can use period & comma to change zoom in and out and then hold shift and use same keys to zoom UI in and out.

HOWever... all the mechanics are locked up in dll files & you just get to fiddle with their config file

I had disabled the mod because I am chronically absentminded and I got the game stuck too many times trying to do something when I had the screem custom zoomed

.

Have you used all your F keys? they should work too

[glacial briar]

Are we using our F keys?
F
FFFFF

[heavy sky]

f keys are nice for extra mod functions, because there are 12 of them and they're easy to bind. they're literally just F1 to F12

[dire fractal]

My F keys get a lot of use so I try to reserve them for mods I have in every run

[quiet umbra]

NumPad keys?

[neat violet]

A lot of newer keyboards (especially on laptops) use the F keys for other functions so you have to hold down fn to actually use the F functions.

(press fn to pay respects)

[glacial briar]

Don't get me started on trying to use fn+printscreen while holding the mouse in a certain position for the screenshot....

My hands are too small for that!

[neat violet]

Thankfully my prtsc is default 🙏

[quiet umbra]

I just use the game prtsc for Stardew

although it sticks the pic in the Users file instead of Pictures

well... i gues it really isn't prnt screen since it takes a photo of entire farm... but the resolution is really good

[alpine ginkgo]

There's also a mod that takes a screenshot at a configurable time range. So like, once a day or a week, and you can change the file location as well.

[quiet umbra]

I remember seeing that, but for me it was kind of overkill, since I just take a pic for a particular purpose

[alpine ginkgo]

True, it's more for people who like to keep track of their farm progress over time.

[glacial briar]

My screenshots are usually either for Nexus or posting here.

[royal arrow]

you can also set a hotkey with this mod (Daily Screenshot). I set a rule for a hotkey screenshot with it in case the weekly shot happens to be on a rainy day. So there's options

[main yacht]

Does anyone know if it is possible to add the SVE mod to an existing save

or would there be bugs

[quiet umbra]

You can do it... you might run into some oddities tho

shouldn't be game breaking ones, I think

[robust bison]

it's fine if you add it

[quiet umbra]

you will run into probs if you try to use one of their custom farm maps on an existing save. It is also doable, but guaranteed to give odd results

What's neat is that you should still get their Grandpa's Shed if you are using the Standard Farm choice even without thier custom farms.

Also unless your own custom map overlaps where they usually put Granpa's Shed

[glacial briar]

There's a LOT of story stuff that's really best to experience on a new save.

[main yacht]

Im rocking the beach layout and am really happy with my save so far. Once I started modding and found sve, I wanted to add it without starting a completely new save

[glacial briar]

How far into your game are you?

[main yacht]

only year 2 but took a few weeks to get to this point

[quiet umbra]

Calcite is right about earlystuff

[glacial briar]

Yeah, you're gonna get hit by a bunch of SVE cut scenes at once.

I really do suggest waiting until your next save.

[main yacht]

alr

[glacial briar]

In the meantime, you can try a mod like Ridgeside or East Scarpe.

Unless yu think this is the last time you'll ever play SDV.

[quiet umbra]

I haven't played with Ridgeside really, but don't think they're much like SVE in just sort of changing everything

You are totally right about SVE best on new save

[glacial briar]

SVE changes EVERYTHING 😄

[alpine ginkgo]

Ridgeside and East Scarp more add additional content, rather than changing the preexisting world.

[neat violet]

And most of Ridgeside's events are heart events, so you won't get slammed with events.

[main yacht]

prob not but if i were to continue this save then i would play it for a couple months im guessing and am not sure how i would feel about starting from scratch

[quiet umbra]

oooo... I have no idea how many times I've started over

[glacial briar]

I never know for other people, because for me Y1 is the best. 😄

And by the time I get to Y3 I'm bored.

[quiet umbra]

tru

[alpine ginkgo]

I am a spastic restarter. I get to Y2 at the latest and I'm like... I should start a new save.

[shell jackal]

^Me

[glacial briar]

That's why I don't like story stuff that's supposed to start in Y3. Like, I'm never going to see that.

[quiet umbra]

If I make it o y3... I dislike having to wait years for some particular stuff to happen

[main yacht]

hmm

[glacial briar]

But that's us, Boo. You do you. 🙂

And let us know if you want some mod recs that are easier to add to existing svaes.

[quiet umbra]

tru... then there's always the new mod or new map or new NPC that I want to try out & new save is best

[main yacht]

at first i was looking to add a few things such as ppja mods but thats only crops and etc, no new places or events

[glacial briar]

"few" "PPJA" 😅

(Obligatory: how do you feel about.... Joja? comment)

[main yacht]

did i phrase that wrong

[glacial briar]

PPJA just adds about a million things. 😄

[alpine ginkgo]

You could try some standalone NPCs? Lemurkat's are great, from what I've heard.

[quiet umbra]

well, if you liike tinkering with new products & machines, etc. JA mods will give it to you in spades!

Mr Ginger is the best!

[alpine ginkgo]

I've played a little East Scarp and I'm very interested in checking out Jasper, Mr. Ginger and Juliet & Jessie.

[main yacht]

my problem is i like finding and installing new mods that it takes so much of my time that i forget to play the game

[alpine ginkgo]

Same.

[quiet umbra]

Also I've got Jasper and Tristan by LemurKat

[glacial briar]

Oh, lol, I forgot Tia has a whole list of crop mods.

[main yacht]

is there a way to share your mods folder

[glacial briar]

You think that's bad, think of the modders who make the mods! 😄

https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Recommendations:_Small_and_Medium_Crop_Packs_by_Tiakall

[glacial briar]

!log will show us everything you have isntalled.

[native dragon]

@main yacht Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[alpine ginkgo]

There's a joke that modders never actually play the game. Sometimes I wonder if Pathos is even aware of the base game. Lol.

[split lance]

has anyone run into the issue where their stamina doesn't deplete, when they don't have infinite stamina enabled in cjb? NVM I figured it out. With level extender my axe proficiency is so high it doesn't use any stamina

[glacial briar]

I think he played it once, in 2016? Just a legend though.

[alpine ginkgo]

Yeah, he played one day in 2016, said "I'm gonna change the community of this game forever," and hasn't played since.

[quiet umbra]

thank goodness for us

wait... that was wrong

thank goodness he's like that for the rest of us

[glacial briar]

I haven't seen anyone else report that error, @split lance

Oh, lol, I see you figured it out.

[main yacht]

https://smapi.io/log/ed768af626e94b5fb166743da784ada8

this is just what i ahve so far

[split lance]

And now its in the backlog for future reference lol

[glacial briar]

Gonna chop that backlog with your high-proficiency axe? 😄

[main yacht]

oh wait does ! log do the same thing

[glacial briar]

Oh, you've already got quite a few!

Mostly QoL so far?

And you want mostly things like crops now?

[main yacht]

was ab to add animal husbandry, more trees/recipes/fruits and veggies/flower

[glacial briar]

No Joja? 😦

[main yacht]

i originally wanted new crops and machines but after looking at sve, having new places and npcs would be really cool

[glacial briar]

There are some fun lists here: https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Category:Recommendations

Machines - gotta be Taiyo's Strange Machines.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8185

[quiet umbra]

Raffadax Teas amd Trees is great

Add Deep Woods mod & you will always be rich

[glacial briar]

Blatant self promotion: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8804

[split lance]

Absolutely!

[glacial briar]

I love this one on a river farm or beach farm: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/7092

Also works on the island ^

[oblique barn]

If you'd like some recommendations, these are what i use currently, and are all compatible with each other:

Expansions: RSV, SVE, East Scarpe, Walk to the Desert, Boarding House, Deep Woods, Downtown Zuzu*, Garden Village, Mermaid Lagoon

New Characters: A Woman in Painting, Blanche, Cotton, Riley, Jade, Juliet and Jessie, Lunna, Shiko, Aspen

• Please note that this mod is in very early alpha and can be buggy

[glacial briar]

How dare you forget Mr Ginger???

[oblique barn]

Because i don't have it. 😛

There are a number of NPC mods i don't have. 🙂

[main yacht]

whats "walkt to the desert" even for. it it to get out of paying 500g or so you can go to the desert whenever pam isnt working

[glacial briar]

everyone loves this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2544

[glacial briar]

There's a new area, NPC, and some other things.

[oblique barn]

Including most male NPCs because while i am not opposed to most male NPCs, I am not a fan of anime boys. >.>

[alpine ginkgo]

Allows you to walk to the desert, but also adds new areas, I believe a new NPC, and various other stuff. Plus you can fight monsters!

[oblique barn]

This. Plus it has Garden Village integration, so you can access that on foot as well! (if you have it installed) 🙂

[alpine ginkgo]

I really wanna try Garden Village soon. I think Oba has taken over as its maintainer?

[oblique barn]

Oh?

[topaz sorrel]

aside from the stardew valley planner, is there any other way to see the whole farm's layout to do some planning? i use a custom farm so it's not available on the website

[alpine ginkgo]

Yep!

[glacial briar]

Tiled?

[topaz sorrel]

oh right

thank u!

how would i play around with building locations? like how do i add them into the tiled workspace while i have the farm open

[glacial briar]

If you can extrapolate a little, there's kind of a guide for this on the modding wiki.

https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Adding_Map_Patches_Using_Tiled

But perhaps someone who actually plans out their farms would have better ideas than me.

[oblique barn]

I do wish there were a 'farm planning' mod that you could just fiddle with in the game. 😛

[quiet umbra]

tru... I have to zoom way out or take a screenshot and hope to remember where I want everything

ooo xbox update broke game? lots of disappointed players, I bet

.

[glacial briar]

Have fun makign that! 😄

[quiet umbra]

xbox is the windows take on console type playing, right?

[glacial briar]

Microsoft, not windows, technically.

[quiet umbra]

com si com sa

I think I have that right

[plain ridge]

bruh 😂

did they figure out that capital thing seemed perplexing

[quiet umbra]

I never have had a controller, but I was tempted to go xbox

[glacial briar]

Pretty sure Microsoft has a lot of capital XD

[quiet umbra]

for ElderScrolls Online and for Witcher

ok comme ci comme ca (don't have the weird c in this font)

knew it was a romance language

[glacial briar]

Hey @main yacht , once you get your mods picked out and play with them a little, come back and tell us what you're enjoying!

Or what was a hilarious mistake; we like both kinds of stories. 😄

[quiet umbra]

Do you know if those wetland mods work on Ginger Island?

It has a little tidepool area, doesn't it?

I remember the farm does have a creekside area

[glacial briar]

Pretty sure they do.

There's also wetland bird scarecrows that I think make their own little water sapce for planting next to.

[quiet umbra]

that would be interesting to do... I never have really warmed up to Ginger Island

I saw those & downloaded the mods... I'm not that far along (quite) on this save but will break them out when I get there

I'm not a fan of how the Island house looks... I don't mind grass shacks in general, but that one is just so.... so

[glacial briar]

Aren't there mods for that?

Or have not enough modders gotten that far in 1.5? 😄

[chrome cosmos]

im pretty sure both gwen’s medieval buildings and elle’s buildings change the look of the island house

(not 100% sure about elle’s but i am about gwen’s)

[neat violet]

There's a couple of mods that change its look.

[chilly swallow]

blinks sleepily and hugs all round

[oblique barn]

I mean, someone came out with a mod yesterday that lets you do actual map edits in game, a planner would probably be simpler. 😛

[oblique barn]

starting or ending your day? 😛

[chilly swallow]

starting lol

[oblique barn]

technically the xbox does run on a windows core. 😛

the current one, anyway

[main yacht]

will do

[sleek wing]

hey anyone know the custom cask mod?

[alpine ginkgo]

I'm familiar with it! Do you need help with something?

[sleek wing]

Yes, I want to know why the category of artisan goods (-26) does not receive it in the game, not even when I put the name of the object I want?

[chilly swallow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8882 ❤️

[alpine ginkgo]

Sorry, could I ask for further clarification on what you mean? I imagine you're creating a content pack, and artisan goods aren't being recognized?

[sleek wing]

more or less, I just wanted to put the caviar but after I saw the category I wanted to put it whole and from this I only accept the pickles, I tried to put the caviar and the jelly for their id and it did not work for me, I did the same with the name and neither, I always followed the instructions in the mod post

[alpine ginkgo]

Hmmm, what are you putting the items into? For example, the mod doesn't work with casks that were placed before you made the changes. Are you putting the items in casks that you had already placed?

[neat violet]

erin

[sleek wing]

it does not work on old and also on new i put this https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Artisan_Goods following these categories https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Object_data#Categories

I can upload images of how I have the caskdata and agersdata?

[quiet umbra]

ooo neato keeno! I have used Gwen's medival buildings before, but never on Ginger Island

I like her Way Back Pelican Town too

[alpine ginkgo]

That would be helpful! Alternatively, you could send them through https://smapi.io/json.

[upper ember]

My cousin and I were planning on streaming together, so I sent her my mods list and we went through and removed some. Can anyone help identify the errors and why mods are failing? As far as I know, we didn't remove anything related to any of the mods that failed

https://smapi.io/log/120034c09c204526a21dab7ebf249524

[alpine ginkgo]

Someone in the posts on Custom Cask Mod reported question marks appearing when they pasted their code over, though those question marks don't show up in the JSON itself. Apparently it can be due to odd spacing, not entirely sure.

[sleek wing]

agersdata:https://smapi.io/json/none/e97b6ed8c5f449789c78b7137c9e25f3

caskdata:https://smapi.io/json/none/bac7c9ac01c94808899db41af0a2938c

I saw many who have problems similar to this one but I did not understand the solutions very well or some did not say it

[chrome cosmos]

yea her mods are very pretty

[alpine ginkgo]

So, I'm looking through the content pack template for Custom Cask Mod and this all seems correct... Just to make sure, you made a manifest for your changes and put it in the mod folder? I know that's an obvious question, but I just want to make sure.

[sleek wing]

hahahaha I think not, how do I do that?

[quiet umbra]

It says you have not loaded Content Patcher which is required for many of the mods or parts of mods... also, why do you have so many empty folders? just wondering

There may be other things as well, but load up Content Patcher and try to run it again

[sleek wing]

i think i'm missing the config file, i'm new to this

[upper ember]

Ah, yep, during the moving of mods on her end, it got messed up badly because my game is perfectly fine aside from three errors. One being a dupe mod, the other requiring the mod that got skipped from the dupe, and then one mod we actually needed for another

[quiet umbra]

thats a lot of mods, errors could probly be expected

[chilly swallow]

hugggs Tia

[alpine ginkgo]

Oooh, that could explain it! Lemme link you to a manifest guide. Basically, you'll want to create a manifest.json (You can do that with a program as simple as Notepad, just make sure you're saving it as a JSON. https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Manifest Create a folder called [CCM] My Mod or whatever you want to name your mod, and put the manifest, casksData and agersData in that folder, and stick it in the mods folder.

[upper ember]

I've ironed out all of the errors from my personal game, with more mods than that! They just got.. messed up somehow during the moving process

But thank you!

[quiet umbra]

np

[alpine ginkgo]

You can use the Content Patcher template for your manifest, but switch out the "Pathoschild.ContentPatcher" bit and replace it with "DIGUS.CustomCaskMod".

[upper ember]

I feel like Google Drive did something funky when I tried uploading my mods folder to it.. Going to try using something else to upload the fixed version on

[alpine ginkgo]

If you need help making sure your manifest is alright, you can use the JSON validator again and send a link here.

[sleek wing]

Ok thanks i will keep you informed

[sonic gate]

anyone have a good mod like sve for 1.5 update?

[glacial briar]

!modrecs

[native dragon]

Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.

[glacial briar]

https://stardewmodding.wiki/wiki/Category:Recommendations

Beyond those links, let us know what kind of mods you're interested in (crops, Quality of Life, expansions, NPCs, whatever) and people are always happy to make suggestions.

[sonic gate]

additions to the games specifically related to the 1.5 update content

[glacial briar]

That's.... all mods released since December? 😅

[plain ridge]

yeah you can probably search by date on nexus

[quiet umbra]

sve probly holds the cup for expansiveness... others will add areas or some content but not as overreaching

I can't say I like Victor as much lately... maybe I never triggered certain convo lines b4, but he really sounds spoiled rich kid sometimes now

Griping because his mom wants him to go next door to store & pick up a couple things.... gee, what a hardship

[glacial briar]

"now" 😄

Next you'll be like "Hmm, Sophia seems young?" "Susan doesn't get much development?"

"Marlon is pretty cool?"

[robust bison]

"Andy is too mean to me, cancel him"

[alpine ginkgo]

#AndyIsOverParty

[glacial briar]

How to make Andy instantly more likable: Install Kitty Cats with the Andy cat.

[cobalt gate]

I’m wondering if I can use Mods on Xbox? I’m not exactly tech Savy

[robust bison]

no

[cobalt gate]

Well that sucks lol

Thanks for answering tho

[robust bison]

np

[alpine ginkgo]

Andy becomes a little more likeable once you either complete the CC or Joja, I hear. He cleans up his act and just seems overall happier with the community thriving.

[chilly swallow]

@glacial briar boop

[chilly swallow]

Victor just needs some dialogue expansions.. not sure why no one's made them for sve characters, as popular as they are

[ornate wadi]

Hiii i could use some help getting my mods to work im really new to computer stuff

[outer turret]

Probably because custom npcs are the perosbal works of theory creator and it feels a bit weird adding stuff to them (as opposed to vanilla which are obv also personal but we kinda have 'permission'to?)

[glacial briar]

My thought is if you're gonna go to all that effort to "fix" an NPC, just make your own.

[chilly swallow]

true

I just know how many people see Sve as literally just an expansion of vanilla

[outer turret]

Like I'd feel super weird if someone was like "I made more dialogue for Jessie"

[outer turret]

Not me.

[chilly swallow]

yeah that makes sense

[outer turret]

( I see it as one possible interpretation of vanilla expansion.)

[chilly swallow]

... honestly.. I can't imagine Jessie or Jasper written by anyone else lol

weird how attached I've gotten to ya'lls characters lol

Jessie, Jasper and Lucikiel.. they will always exsist for me lol

I had to postpone my save.. my map decided not to play right, had to go back into tiled

[stable anchor]

The new NPCs I'm making will have more added onto their story-line if you have three of the mentioned NPCs installed individually

The story changes if player has jasper, lucikiel, and/or juliet installed in a playthrough

[upper ember]

Ooooo

[chilly swallow]

😮 that makes me excited lol

[stable anchor]

sneak peek ||Lavril & Void||

[chilly swallow]

😮 ok, really cute lol

[robust bison]

how does every other mod maker make 64 pixels look bigger than it is 😩

[chilly swallow]

got me, Arcane, I'm still learning that myself lol

[outer turret]

I love her sprites too!

Did you want a spirit candle for her Arknir?

[plain ridge]

woahey that's a cute npc

[outer turret]

If anyone can think of a valid reason one might want a candle that burns dark let me know!

[plain ridge]

to put them around regular candles and always have a candle-lit area? idk

hmmmmm

[chilly swallow]

hugs Fajita

[plain ridge]

huggggggssss

anything cool happen? how's that mural comin

[chilly swallow]

that's a really cool idea tbh

[outer turret]

Spirit candle exists ingame but was never implemented.

[chilly swallow]

haha, still editing stuff, nothing facinating today.. how's you?

yeah.. I always wondered what it was for

[outer turret]

Ir burns blue and casts shadow when set indoors (except in farmhouse)

[plain ridge]

i'm great :^) except i'm getting nervous for my 1st dose tomorrow lol

[outer turret]

I cant think of any logical reason for it except to summon creatures from the void

[plain ridge]

for a seance maybe?

[chilly swallow]

I'd.. love having blue light in spots, tbh.. would be pretty

and don't worry, shot's not that bad, specially the first one

I've had both now

[glacial briar]

Magic blackmarket?

[chilly swallow]

omg.. what about

[outer turret]

If anyone wants to play with it let me know. The wizard gives you the crafting recipe

[chilly swallow]

a shop that will only open if you open the door with a spirit candle

[outer turret]

(In a not very well scripted event)

[glacial briar]

I feel like Krobus or the Dwarf would love it?

"Ah, yes, this will aid me when I need to brave your bright 'sun' once more"

[plain ridge]

yes to this 100x

[glacial briar]

Or just would look cool in a dungeon.

[chilly swallow]

https://gyazo.com/b87a85f21ee003ffb704634bc0c0d3a9 does this saturation look ok?

[chilly swallow]

yeah that would be cool

[plain ridge]

her hair's really bright red eh

[chilly swallow]

yeah

[glacial briar]

Pierre doesn't sell the best dye....

[plain ridge]

would be fine during the day but i'd go blind at night

[chilly swallow]

hahahaha

[quiet umbra]

ooo those kind of shops... like something straight out of DiscWorld

[chilly swallow]

yeah 😄

[quiet umbra]

but what all would the shop sell? It would probly have to be something needed by heros on their desperate quests

[chilly swallow]

now that's a good question lol.. would be a cool idea to hash out though

[quiet umbra]

Reminds me of "Soul Music" where that shop had all the 1 of a kind mythological items

[chilly swallow]

if someone were making a fantasy thing where you had stuff like the philosophors stone and whatnot (not the hp one, but the mythological one), it'd be a cool way of opening that shop

[quiet umbra]

yup

it sounds like a cool little mechanism to have... just have to find uses for it

[errant hornet]

Gm

[errant hornet]

[plain ridge]

Morning Kedi :v

[chilly swallow]

snuggles Kedi ❤️ g'morning 🙂

hmm.. I want a better wizard portrait

[plain ridge]

the wizard... the forbidden goods.

[robust bison]

male or female?

[plain ridge]

👁️👄👁️ oh lord

[chilly swallow]

lol male

[robust bison]

you want him hot or old

[chilly swallow]

not old.. but not kid like either, if that makes sense

[robust bison]

so hot

[plain ridge]

i'm dying

[chilly swallow]

haha

[dire fractal]

hi

[chilly swallow]

yeah.. hot is it

[deep totem]

The two r not mutually exclusive :)

[chilly swallow]

hiyas Soldier

[dire fractal]

hello

[robust bison]

well, out of those that exist, it's almost always one of the two 😅

[dire fractal]

my strawberry kiwifruit pavlova

[deep totem]

Perhaps we need one 🤔

[chilly swallow]

we do need one x.x all I can find are "old old ancient wise man" or "sweet child o mine"

[quiet umbra]

some men really get hotter looking with a little grey

[chilly swallow]

we need one that says.. "I k now a thing or two.. in many many ways..."

[quiet umbra]

trying to think of the actors name... he was always good looking but really started to sizzle with a bit of grey around the temples

[chilly swallow]

unfortunately.. character portraits are NOT something I'm capable of atm

[quiet umbra]

I'm kind of hit or miss on them myself

[quiet umbra]

And would be willing to teach you too 👀

[deep totem]

R u considering to make that NPC?

[plain ridge]

when's the tutorial bro

[quiet umbra]

I'll sign up!

[chilly swallow]

I dn't have the ability, or I would lol.. put me in shading and I'm completely lost

[quiet umbra]

well, one could find maybe a series of photos and run then through a pixelator

[deep totem]

I could give it a try. Making the portraits and sprites if someone do take care of the writing. :3

[chilly swallow]

well I mean.. this is the wizard we're talking bout

he's there already.. just.. he needs a physical makeover

[deep totem]

Ah I thought, we drifted toward making another npc 😋

[chilly swallow]

haha.. nah, npc creation will be a ways for me.. I'm still learning the basics of modding

[errant hornet]

Ok, now I should edit Elle's greenhouse mod to make more space for Raffadax's trees 😆

Bcs I also have PPJA

[chilly swallow]

lol

I had to redo my map, it was erroring

[errant hornet]

Awh, what error?

[chilly swallow]

well.. error is the wrong word.. when I walked down to the animal area, I could walk there, but it was solid black

[errant hornet]

It means you forgot some vanilla tilesheet in you map folder

[chilly swallow]

that's the weird part, when I opened it back up in tiled, nothing missing

[errant hornet]

No no not in Tiled, in the map's folder

[chilly swallow]

right.. I have them all in the map's folder though.. even vanilla tiles

[errant hornet]

You should take vanilla tilesheets out before testing or stuff turns into solid black

[chilly swallow]

didn't take em out, they're still in it lol

[errant hornet]

Lol Testing time!

[chilly swallow]

stares at it and glares

lol

[errant hornet]

Ok now I should go count how manu trees there are 😂

[chilly swallow]

hahaha

[errant hornet]

70..?

Then I'm gonna add 70 slots..

8 vanilla trees + 3 PPJA flower trees + 30 from More Trees = 41?

[chilly swallow]

I'd say good grief but.. I have a ton myself lol

[errant hornet]

Lol
Current map has 48 slots so I should add 63, not 70

[glacial briar]

👆

[chilly swallow]

you can do eet

[hearty wedge]

Ahh I just went to redownload mods and the Seasonal Outfits mod seems to be gone... Does anyone know what happened to it??

[quiet umbra]

.............I did do a makeover on the Wizard sprite, but was still kind of trying to stay pretty close to cannon

[errant hornet]

There'll be 70 + 41 = 111 trees, But now how I'm gonna plan that thing

[chilly swallow]

I may look into it.. I mean, the worst that can happen is I realize it's just not something I can do

[candid plover]

I think it was abandoned

[stable anchor]

YES

[candid plover]

there is the cuter version

[quiet umbra]

I won't say it was easy, but mainly just tedious

[outer turret]

Okay I'll post it here

[hearty wedge]

Ohh that's so unfortunate... There's a different version though? Could you link it?

[candid plover]

I'm literally looking right now. DSV has vanilla seasonal outfits and a lot of cool options for a more diverse cast of characters

[candid plover]

Search DSV on moddrop

[chilly swallow]

btw.. hugs

[hearty wedge]

Nothing shows up when I search dsv

[chilly swallow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4079

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5450

[quiet umbra]

here's my wizard sprite... at least an older version of him... I cleaned him up a bit more

[hearty wedge]

Thank you!

[quiet umbra]

Lost him there for a while

[chilly swallow]

haha he looks cool

[quiet umbra]

thnx

It would be nice to do something a bit more original tho

[chilly swallow]

eh I know the feeling

[outer turret]

okay posted it to making mods, it's just a few lines of code

[chilly swallow]

Lemur's pretty awesomes... don't tell her I said that.. muahahaha

[outer turret]

I won't say a word

[chilly swallow]

😄

[plain ridge]

🤫

[glacial briar]

Why does he remind me of Jafar?

[quiet umbra]

jafar who?

I mean that sounds familiar... I could have had him percolating in my subconscious

Jafar from Aladdin?

or is that Jamar?

[chilly swallow]

aladdin

[dire fractal]

I'm going to be altering a vanilla event in the game. Someone suggested for me to turn the Luau into a Maori Hungi. I must know who suggested this so I can give credit.

[glacial briar]

You might be thinking of his cousin, Janear.

I think you thought of the luau idea yourself. 🙂

[dire fractal]

o

lol

[errant hornet]

We call him Cafer

[dire fractal]

I thought someone recommended it 😛

[quiet umbra]

Call him Cafer because?

[glacial briar]

Localization I assume.

[errant hornet]

I think... Easier for us to spell

Yep maybe that too

[quiet umbra]

Well... I think it must be just mistaken identity in this case... can't be Jafar of Cafer, because no parrot

[glacial briar]

This takes place after Aladdin 2.

But I would be highly amused by a junimo voiced by gilbert godfried.

[chilly swallow]

oh.. my.. god.. that would be hilarious

[glacial briar]

(Still upset no one laughed at Janear)

[quiet umbra]

sorry... i did feel a whoosh of air as that one passed right over my head

[chilly swallow]

does a Peanut impression

[quiet umbra]

you tangle your kite in a tree?

I am about to do a distraught impression of someone who doesn't want to keep a Dr appt

[chilly swallow]

hugs you lol

[quiet umbra]

I ducked it last week due to an illness that amazingly cleared up after canceling

[royal echo]

is there a mod for "Encumbrance"? so that if player carries too much items / too heavy items they'll be "encumbered" and steadily lose stamina until they ditch their inventories under the 'encumbered limit'

[dire fractal]

Lmao

Random

[glacial briar]

...........

[royal echo]

bonus points if player can 'train' their strength, so as they gets higher and higher "strength" level, their 'encumbered limit' also gets higher

[glacial briar]

ANYWAY, there's already the limit to how many items you can hold and people are eager to ignore that.

[dire fractal]

Yeah that was a bit too random lmao

[chilly swallow]

ya know.. every game I have that has encumberance, the first thing I get is a mod to remove that lol

[glacial briar]

lol, point

[dire fractal]

Blimin bored lol

[glacial briar]

Take it to the town-square then.

[quiet umbra]

Stronger You gets you stronger "naturally"

[dire fractal]

Oh true

[royal echo]

this is the other way around ... but of course you're free to get a mod to disable the encumbrance mod ... 😆

[dire fractal]

I forgot about the town-square

[chilly swallow]

lol

I mean.. I don't see why you couldn't

[quiet umbra]

why tho?

[errant hornet]

Lool

[royal echo]

Newsfeed:
June 10 : pepoluan releases "encumbrance" mod. description: apply 'encumbered limit' to farmer
June 14 : pepoluan releases "no more encumbrance" mod. description: disables 'encumbered limit' to farmer

[quiet umbra]

like doing taxes just to do taxes when you don't need to do taxes

[chilly swallow]

hahaha

[devout pumice]

New quote added by pepoluan as #5439 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/678284714829807636/851715754561634304)

[unreal stratus]

[chilly swallow]

Obaaaa huggs ❤️

[royal echo]

remind me at 14:30 to tell my son to have lunch

[devout pumice]

yep sure sure np (#2905941)

[royal echo]

waaait ... whose 14:30 will the bot use ... mine or theirs?

let's redo that

remind me in 30 minutes to tell my son to have lunch

[devout pumice]

sssshshsssfhsfs (#2905944)

[errant hornet]

😆

[royal echo]

i ain't got no respect from bots 😑

[chilly swallow]

lols

[shell copper]

Json assets dll won't load, using 1.7.2 version btw

Also how do I edit json.config files?

[neat plaza]

json.config?
are you using mobile 32 bit or 64?

[shell copper]

32bit

[neat plaza]

pc or android (assuming android since your name)

[heavy sky]

only in modded can you get moments like this

[chilly swallow]

ah.. ok now my map works

now.. maby, juuuust perhaps... I can actually play

[heavy sky]

also, to any SVE players, i did the ||enchanted grove|| which apparently i'm supposed to do to get to ||crimson badlands||, but how do i get there?

the entrance was previously next to the skull cavern, but it isn't anymore

and if the entrance is in the desert, that's a bit of a problem

because this

[chilly swallow]

blinks

[devout pumice]

@royal echo: tell your son to have lunch (30m ago)

[quiet umbra]

erm... what is that?

[heavy sky]

which one?

skull cavern?

or one of the other things?

[quiet umbra]

all the green

[heavy sky]

||enchanted grove is an area you get access to in SVE after completing a lot of stuff||

it's supposed to be part of the questline to access the ||crimson badlands||

[quiet umbra]

ah... last time I went to Crimson Badlands (been a while back) a mine cart was fixed inside the entrance to Skull Cavern. Have not had any xperience with groves, enchanted or otherwise

[heavy sky]

yeah that's what it was for me too, in an old version

[quiet umbra]

All that green is still desert on my map

[heavy sky]

but it's not there now

[quiet umbra]

don't look it, do it?

[heavy sky]

this is all there is now

[quiet umbra]

there's a thing as my granny would say.... I do have SVE

Yes, was there just yesterday

That is some kinda wild enchantment to appear & take over the whole right side of desert

[heavy sky]

lmao nah just a lot of hard work

very profitable hard work

[quiet umbra]

you did it?

[heavy sky]

mhm

[quiet umbra]

ah... the light begins to dawn

well, you could ask on SVE discord

[heavy sky]

there's one of those, huh? lmao

[neat plaza]

yeah

[fading shell]

all i know is that the crimson badlands are no longer an expansion of the desert; they have their own island. however, i have no clue how to get to that island.

[quiet umbra]

no convenient signposts, eh?

I will have to look into it for myself then too

[glacial briar]

When in doubt, hit the SVE reddit. 👍 Easier to seearch.

[heavy sky]

righto thanks

[quiet umbra]

probly so

[shell copper]

Android

..anyways..
Help?

[errant hornet]

Ok.. 21 to go, if I calculated correctly

[quiet umbra]

fooey... you have to have been playing the game for at least 90 in-game days (plus other stuff) for C. Badlands to unlock

[outer turret]

so with impeccable timing, Penny bids good night to the kids just outside Sam's house, so that Vincent walks in with Jodi precisely on time... at the same time Marnie walks past heading to the saloon and leaving the house empty.

[quiet umbra]

I feel I missed the start of this movie

[outer turret]

meanwhile my kids walked off into the void for apparently no reason whatsover

[quiet umbra]

could be UFOs?

I looked at Tristan's portraits btw, he's a cutie also

[eager canopy]

Does anyone know what mod could be messing up my windows/all light in general

[quiet umbra]

?

which windows would these be?

[outer turret]

(I also had Marnie walk off into the void for no reason whatsover once, I Think it's just my game complaining.)

[outer turret]

well I suppose he is more polite than you might expect from a cat.

[eager canopy]

I'll take a screenshot hold up

[quiet umbra]

My cats have generally all been polite... at least while watched

[outer turret]

Btw, I'd be interested to know when people start unlocking Tristan.

[quiet umbra]

||He's still cat in my curent game||

[outer turret]

(I feel he's doing pretty well with 9 endorsements when prob no one has played through him)

can you spoiler that Shaddomoth pls

[chilly swallow]

pssst can I has a copy when you're done? might help me with mine

[errant hornet]

😆 Shuure

[quiet umbra]

but I knew it was something like that was coming up after the Wizard's visit

[outer turret]

good. I hoped I had done some foreshadowing

[chilly swallow]

sorry to keep bugging you lol.. you're like..mah mapping idol lol

[errant hornet]

😅 Lol

[chilly swallow]

and if I can ever poitrait the way Lemur did Tristan.. imma be a .. ok modder.. just.. you know.. gotta catch up to you two lol

.. one day... maybe

[eager canopy]

All my windows look like this - all lighting I should say. torches, everything is messed up and looks like spider webs

[outer turret]

Haha Tris had the Airyn polish.

[chilly swallow]

😄

Airyn is awesome

[outer turret]

Ok stalking my spouse and kids again...

[chilly swallow]

snorts

[chilly swallow]

!log

[native dragon]

@eager canopy Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?

[eager canopy]

https://smapi.io/log/d3dbf835a2fa43adabb7afdfe40a09f6

[outer turret]

trying to figure out if there's a pattern to the kids not running circles around the bus stop

[chilly swallow]

oh goodness you have a lot of things needs fixin

but I don't see anything that should be changing your windows

[outer turret]

Also going to add another cat unlocked by special orders.

She will not be like Mr Ginger.

[quiet umbra]

YES! more cats is good

[chilly swallow]

.. you need to get the updated bfav, I'll find you the link in a sec. you need to pick up multi yield crops. you need stardew hack, you need all the necessary files for community center, you need to delete either yandere seb or possesive seb

[errant hornet]

Here we go.. 111 tree slots 😆

[fading shell]

i-what? you have eldritch windows?

[errant hornet]

But now what I should do with rest space

[eager canopy]

Okay, thank-you so much. I've found something online - apparently I need to compress some png files?

[quiet umbra]

that would be unusual

I was thinking maybe you had a "witchy" type mod and those were spiders, but I did not look at your log

[eager canopy]

I've deleted the witchy windows I downloaded and the problem is still there

It looks like that all around town, torches etc

[quiet umbra]

ooo that's bad, alrighty

[chilly swallow]

https://forums.stardewvalley.net/threads/unofficial-mod-updates.2096/page-33#post-24872

bfav there

[eager canopy]

Thank-you so much

[chilly swallow]

welcomes

ah apparently you have 2 of your greenhouse as well

content patcher is out of date.. so my advice would be, update everything smapi has listed, fix those issues, and then run it, see if it's still erroring

if it's still spidery, redo the log, we'll troubleshoot

[eager canopy]

Okay I'll try that tysm

[chilly swallow]

❤️ crosses fingers that works

[errant hornet]

Any ideas ?

[quiet umbra]

put a couch in there to rest on after all that work

[glacial briar]

Joja tree crops. 👍

[chilly swallow]

I'd just finish it with more tree slots

just in case you add more later