I have too much shit with ppja, fantasy crops, and now sve???
#archived-modded-support
keen moss
Not that I'm aware of.
There's a reference guide to see which crops are good but good is subjective. https://mouseypounds.github.io/ppja-ref/index.html
It also is not all encompassing so there are crops excluded.
proven thicket
So I counted the crops that don't even have an object icon yet.
Also I don't think I can do trees perfectly.
shell jackal
SVE sounds fun but I think I have WAY too many mods that conflict with it.
proven thicket
been digging thoru this aqgain https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D3Kb45faKsXGkT9wGhWaeHZiuFN7WSkewBbLF2Iuyug/edit#gid=399942740
silk stone
there's a mod where a bulletin appears in your inventory to the right of your clothes n stuff, anyone know what it's called?
proven thicket
what
snow wraith
UI info Suite. that's a conglomeration of mods though. idk what that feature was from otherwise
proven thicket
Yeah, I don't the artistic power to pixel art 40 crops within a month.
silk stone
thank you gainem!
distant stump
SVE sounds fun but I think I have WAY too many mods that conflict with it.
@shell jackal just try to run it and if it works u gonna have to create a new fle cuz it aint fun running new mods on an existing file
silk stone
wait what's sve?
snow wraith
Stardew Valley Expanded
keen moss
There's also modgroups https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F If you want to try out specific mods without messing up your loadout.
silk stone
ooh
shell jackal
I think mine was FTM and FHR that won't work. I also use farm map mods and Eemie's.
proven thicket
I might try and attempt wormwood at some point
sonic patio
Hey guys, does anyone know what causes this bug on Android? Whenever i go to cindersap forest and exit it, this happens. I don't use that much mods as well. The major one is sve, no visual mods that changes tilesets expect betterwater and dynamic night time
keen moss
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
keen moss
Your PyTK & TMXL are most likely outdated as that's what was happening with an older version.
Can you follow the instructions on that page please? It parses it so we can read it much easier.
sonic patio
Ah i see, thanks for your time ^^
dapper quiver
this is probably a dumb question but, can i use a mod if it hasnt been updated in a bit? like a mod that hasnt been updated since january or something like that?
keen moss
It should work fine. Usually it's major game updates that break mods but if it's a SMAPI mod you can always check here https://smapi.io/mods to make sure it works with the latest version. Content packs should be fine as long as their framework works.
dapper quiver
ah sweet ty!
native atlas
With the new SVE update coming out I was wondering if you could have different mods on different saves of stardew?? I’m pretty new to using mods
snow wraith
there's no way built to do that automatically, but you could pretty easily just make a duplicate mods folder somewhere else, and swap them out when you want to change characters
just have to be careful to not try and play the wrong one
native atlas
Oh I see, thank you!!
shell jackal
I swear every riverland farm map mod I try has something wrong with it. I wish I could fix them myself.
keen moss
There's also modgroups https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F If you want to try out specific mods without messing up your loadout.
@native atlas
native atlas
I’ll check that out, ty ty!!
fervent ivy
i'm having this little error with SVE and Starblue Valley, i was wondering if there's any file i could edit to fix it
elder knoll
is there any way to mod a switch game? im assuming no but
ashen elbow
no
dire fractal
when putting mods in the mod files do you have to unzip them?
ashen elbow
yes
dire fractal
I am stupid
violet crown
PC is the easiest in terms of mods
dire fractal
yeah
violet crown
Yeah I’m gonna start downloading some mods for the first time I just need to install SMAPI first.
dire fractal
stardew valley expanded is really good
violet crown
That ones on my list!
That and the seasonal outfits mod so far.
I gotta do some research though because I heard SVE is incompatible with some mods.
lost imp
@elder knoll Unfortunately there is no way to add or modify files on the Switch. Nintendo doesn’t want people poking around under the hood.
elder knoll
ah
violet crown
Nintendo be like, “hippity hoppity get off my property”.
lost imp
lol basically
I’ve heard that even if you jailbreak your Switch, mods still won’t work because the system processes files differently. I.e. it would have to have its own version of SMAPI
(Not to mention that jail breaking is technically against the rules. 😅 )
cyan meadow
Can someone help me? I installed the latest version of SMAPI on Nexus Mods but the app keeps crashing when I open it. Should I put SMAPI in my mods folder or somewhere else?
ashen elbow
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
naive drum
You put the SMAPI installer anywhere that isn't in your Stardew Valley Folder, then run it and it installs SMAPI
lost imp
I was told to move my question here, so here’s a copy/paste:
Are there any other good chest mods? I was really hoping for something that added bigger chests or a special chest that shared inventories. I really don’t want to use “Chests Anywhere”, I feel like even in “balanced mode” it’s too powerful. I can’t get “Mega Storage” or “Warp Storage” to function properly. Surely there are more options than those three?
naive drum
As far as I'm aware those really are the only options
lost imp
Mega Storage won’t let me add anything to their chests. I can craft, place, and open them, but adding to them doesn’t work
keen moss
Item Bags might suit your needs? It’s not really a chest but the bags can be put within a chest.
lost imp
Oooh, haven’t heard of that one, I’ll check it out
violet crown
Oooo I might get the Stardew Aquarium mod.
It’s looks so cute.
So that’s the aquarium, expanded, and seasonal outfits so far that I want to get.
lost imp
I have that! It’s cute and works with “More Fish”!
violet crown
It looks so cute! And I love Animal Crossing so this would be a great addition!
lost imp
That’s exactly why I added it to my pack. 😅
violet crown
Haha lol!
supple echo
I want to try the aquarium! But I haven't figured out how to get the train station thing to work yet 😅
(i.e. I installed but now I can't find where to buy tickets…)
lost imp
It should be a little kiosk by the train station, it looks like the same one by the bus stop?
supple echo
hmm. I'll have to look again
lost imp
Did you install the “Train Station” mod? It’s needed to add the kiosk
naive drum
sometimes tilesheet mods change the look of the kiosk to something silly
supple echo
THIS IS WHY I WISH THERE WERE GOOD SDV MOD MANAGERS
lost imp
lolol
supple echo
It would be under "Train Station" right and not under a bazillion letters in brackets?
actually wait I have a search on my computer -headdesks again-
lost imp
lol, it’s ok
lost imp
Modding makes us all a little bit crazy. 😉
supple echo
and I didn't notice that even with my brain functioning properly before this week
I'll just… install that, then. :p
ooh, spooky pet costumes mods…
cyan meadow
I can't give you the SMAPI log because it shows nothing in my Error Logs file. I'm playing on a Chromebook, and as soon as I updated SMAPI it just wouldn't stop crashing 😦
Should I uninstall SMAPI (the app) and install it again? Will I lose my save files?
proven thicket
proven thicket
I thought I saw spoopy in one of those messages.
dire fractal
Either way, I believe SMAPI should always be installing in a distinct location from the game's saves, so you should be free to remove or reinstall it as you please. If you want to be absolutely certain while poking files you could always back up your saves directory.
proven thicket
Wait, Smapi on Android?
cyan meadow
yeah
fair vessel
@cyan meadow maybe revert to the previous version of SMAPI that was working before? Which version did you have before and after?
proven thicket
Interesting tell me more
cyan meadow
How can I revert?
proven thicket
How limited is it?
fair vessel
Just run the installer for a previous version. You can use the one you downloaded before, or download an old version from the additional files on Nexus mods
@proven thicket here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Android
Smapi on Android itself is not limited at all. Some mods made for smapi aren't mobile compatible, but most work fine (sometimes with limitations or workarounds)
cyan meadow
ok, i see what might have gone wrong - in the wiki it says to download the latest file from the port and i don’t have the latest file. i don’t hav the latest file yet i updated smapi
So that might be what’s wrong
I’ll keep you posted!
How limited is it?
@proven thicket Also I literally can’t open the app it opens and then crashes
But i’m gonna try 🙂
fair vessel
Should I uninstall SMAPI (the app) and install it again? Will I lose my save files?
@cyan meadow p.s. if you uninstall and reinstall smapi it will never touch your saves
cyan meadow
Ok like even if I uninstall the entire thing
fair vessel
Yeah
crude flume
@lost imp there's also "Convenient Chests"
doesn't increase chest size per say, but lets you craft from the fridge and nearby chests directly
and has categorization with one-button storage based on those categories or what's already in the chests
so it can make having a bunch of chests more manageable
crude flume
cheers!
fair vessel
Where's My Items is likewise a nifty little mod for helping you find where you put your _____ in a room full of chests
royal arrow
Yes, Where's My Items is cool, I don't use it often but when, I do, I am glad it's there ☺️
shell jackal
@dapper pulsar I'm really sorry to keep bothering you. I must be derping out or something to keep having issues. I just started a new game with the xGamAram riverland map and some of the water tiles look like rock tiles. I'm using version 9.0.3. Latest content patcher. Here's a log. https://smapi.io/log/e3a7e82ca2dd45ee9df6de6da915298c
dapper pulsar
That would be a problem with the map visually, so I'd need to see screenshots for that to figure out where the problem is.
shell jackal
Okay, I'll get them. I'm also including one with the barrels near the minecart. They're half there
Here you go. I made it into a collage. If you need full images I can send those.
dapper pulsar
That's all I need for it. It's an easy fix and I'll upload it soon in a few minutes.
shell jackal
Okay. Thank you. Sorry for being an annoyance. I don't know why I'm all of a sudden having issues with mods. I almost never have issues other than user error.
silk stone
would someone mind helping me with a mod problem?
dapper pulsar
Nah, that's totally an error on my part that I over looked.
Alright, I've uploaded a version that should fix the issue. If there's something more in-depth wrong it may take me a while to get to it since I'm working on updating a number of the farms and am currently bug testing and screenshotting them.
shell jackal
I was also having trouble with the new version of the shed mod. I posted it on the page. The mod just won't apply, no matter which version I choose. It just shows the vanilla shed size. But there are no errors. And I also noticed it seemed to mess with the interior of my farmhouse, which is super weird. Could it have to do with the save not being new, or me using the old version?
dapper pulsar
I'm unsure. I'll have to build a shed and see what happens on my file. (I don't play as much as work on mods most of the time)
shell jackal
Here's a screenshot of the basic shed when set to T1.
Okay, I upgraded it and it's bigger. I guess just not as long as the original mod. Nevermind. xD
dapper pulsar
That's not the vanilla size. That's my modded shed's size.
shell jackal
I'm so used to the Shed 1 from your mod I guess I forgot what vanilla is. I'm sorry.
dapper pulsar
The easies way to tell is that it's equal distance to the wall from the door on both sides for the vanilla shed. Also, no worries. There's no need to apologize. 🙂
shell jackal
I'll stick with the old mod version until I move everything. xD I have WAY too many machines
lost imp
@silk stone What seems to be the issue?
Don’t worry about interrupting here, multiple simultaneous conversations is normal for this Discord channel. 🙂
gray sapphire
Speaking of simultaneous conversations, any thoughts on my predicament? Both my black dress shoes (Garden Village) and my rain boots (Rainy Day Outfit) have turned into random items that I can't interact with
shell jackal
Sounds like a JA issue but I can no expert on it. So you can't delete them?
lost imp
Apologies, that is outside of my skill levels, but its what Amariel34 said, that sounds like a Json Assests issue
gray sapphire
I tried re installing, and it just changed the items
shell jackal
Can you delete them, and use item spawner to get the correct items back?
lost imp
From what I understand, Json has to assign each item a new ID each time and sometimes when changing or updating a mod, it can break items
Oh gosh, that’s a lot of red
silk stone
yeah o.o
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
silk stone
it said it failed in the gamelook.updateticked event
shell jackal
That looks like it was trying to find a file and couldn't
Just going off the first sentence
Ultimate Farm is the culprit
dire fractal
hey is there any way to make my old farm expansion mod work? I tried updating it and its still saying its out of date
shell jackal
It says it was trying to load something with invalid tilesheets
dire fractal
i had loads of pumpkins in there when it stopped working 😦
shell jackal
How do you mean Dogmeat?
Do you mean it stopped working? Or just that there was an update for it
dire fractal
i havent played that file since like november 2019
and then there was that game update and i couldnt get it to work so i figured i would wait
but i wanted to play that file again and i just cant get the mod to start it keeps saying that theres an update for farm expansion
lapis void
@silk stone i would completely delete and reinstall ultimate farm, you're missing a file
silk stone
okay, thank you
lapis void
!log @dire fractal
native dragonBOT
@dire fractal Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
lapis void
(in general a log is the first thing we need to help you, not a screenshot of red text or copy/paste of an error! it means we can see the whole picture better)
native dragonBOT
See https://smapi.io/mods for a list of mods updated for the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley. :)
lapis void
np! it looks like you may have two versions of farm expansion as well, so check for that when you're installing the new one
dire fractal
oh should i uninstall the old smapi to update to the new version
lapis void
nope you don't need to
smapi takes care of that itself
just make sure when you unzip the installer that you put it somewhere like your desktop or downloads folder, not your mods folder!
dire fractal
right
shell jackal
What could be the cause of a JA-added clothing item not showing up on the farmer? It shows up in item spawner but when wearing it, it doesn't show up. It's a Pants item, if that matters.
lapis void
do you use get glam by chance amariel?
shell jackal
Yes. And Customize Anywhere
lapis void
see if it still happens without get glam
iirc that was the cause of this issue for me a while back
silk stone
is tmxl loader the same thing as the tmxl map toolkit?
lapis void
yes
silk stone
ok cool beans
lapis void
tmx loader was the old name, it was changed to tmxl map toolkit recently bc loading .tmx files was added as a smapi feature
silk stone
ah okay
dire fractal
sorry one more question: is it fine to drag the new farm expansion file and replace the old ones or is there a better way to update it that im not seeing
shell jackal
Get Glam wasn't the issue
lapis void
@dire fractal when you're not sure, the best thing to do is completely delete the old file and then drag in the new one, it should be safe to replace though
!log @silk stone
native dragonBOT
@silk stone Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
i wont lose what i had on that mod then?
lapis void
nope you won't!
shell jackal
Also Ace, I forgot about a tile on the map. I'm so sorry. Also there's an area of invisible wall tiles. I circled the area in red. But you can take your time. It's no rush. I know I've been annoying about this.
lapis void
amariel, could you post a log as well? and what mod are the glitched pants from?
shell jackal
There's nothing on the log, but sure. And it's called traditional chinese dress.
The mod author is saying it's JA having hit a limit with Pants items, but I'm not sure that's it
lapis void
north, do you have a signs.png file anywhere?
it should be under CP Ultimate Farm, in Assets
silk stone
lemme look
proven thicket
Wall of red!
silk stone
lapis void
i use ultimate farm and don't have this issue, but that does look right
shell jackal
I don't see QuarryCave.tbin in there. Shouldn't that also be in the assets folder, according to the log?
lapis void
no, that's in the tmx pack
shell jackal
Ah
lapis void
it looks like probably a bad tilesheet path?
fair vessel
ah, well that's why then - if CP content.json isn't loading signs.png into the Content/Maps folder, it can't find it
lapis void
also amariel it may well be a JA limit-- @fast river got any unreleased JA builds floating around?
silk stone
here's the tmx one
fair vessel
if you duplicate that signs.png image and put a copy in that TMX pack assets folder it oughta work
proven thicket
I don't know ifJA has a limit
shell jackal
Para said she didn't think JA had a limit on pants now. She linked me to a recent version
fast river
There is a bug with a certain range of pants with the current release
shell jackal
Ah
silk stone
me?
fair vessel
ooo a certain range? how did that happen?
shell jackal
You mean like pants 20-25, or something?
cyan meadow
Hey, like I said when I open SMAPI this shows. Hope this provides some insight into the problem. Also, how do I redownload ZaneYorks port? To update it
fast river
I’ve packed up my computer so can’t get a build for you at the moment, but it should be on my discord server
fair vessel
download the new one here https://github.com/ZaneYork/SMAPI-Android-Installer/releases/tag/1.6.4
(ooh, brand spankin new 1 hr ago)
proven thicket
I mean I had 321 seeds and 70 saplings, so I guess it's limit less.
shell jackal
Para linked me a recent build and it's still there. Not a huge deal. it seems to be just one item so it's not like the whole mod is ruined. Thanks Space
cyan meadow
I downloaded it, but where do I put the downloaded files? the apk and zip and tar.gz
fast river
It’s SpaceCore_9.zip in #support.
shell jackal
Oh, so it's spacecore and not JA?
fast river
From my notes there, it seems like it was indices 31-40 (JA starts at 20)
fair vessel
full instructions for android smapi install including links for how to sideload an APK app here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Android
fast river
Yeah, the tile sheet expansion code is in SpaceCore, JA is just a mod utilizing it
shell jackal
Okay. And it's in game support?
fair vessel
you only need the apk file, the others are source code
cyan meadow
these are the files
fast river
On my discord server (most of my mods have the link), yes. But I might be able to get you a direct link to the attachment
proven thicket
Indices?
fast river
Plural index
Here is the SpaceCore build https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/747511933959274666/753362326328967168/SpaceCore_9.zip
proven thicket
Actually is there even a crop limit?
shell jackal
Don't think so
fair vessel
not anymore 
proven thicket
Me too
fast river
There is a tile sheet limit, but it’s taken care of if you use JA
proven thicket
@shell jackal like more than what I did? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678284714829807636/763780200424144947/ALL_OF_THE_CROPSSSS.png
shell jackal
coughs at 78 JA mods
silk stone
i don't think that worked
cyan meadow
thanks guys! stardew valley is back for me 🙂
proven thicket
So you can try do the same thing I did?
shell jackal
My chests don't look like that. xD
Anyway, gonna hush so people that need help can get it without getting lost in my text. xD
atomic bear
<Butting in> I have lots of crop and a few recipe mods, and am a bit overwhelmed. I'm not sure how to organize my thoughts around all of it, but I enjoy the variety! <Butting back out> 😄
proven thicket
But like somehow more than what I did?
Over 400?
@atomic bear do you actually have over 400 crops, including saplings?
atomic bear
Oh, I have no idea. I have been thinking of making lists, just to organize. Or, try.
proven thicket
fast river
I’ve been thinking of JA print summary command which outputs that sort of thing (and IDs)
_disappears again _
shell jackal
That would be fun. Just to know how many crops and such you have
atomic bear
How would I do that?
proven thicket
You already seen mine
violet crown
When I install SMAPI, where do I put it exactly? I know not to put in the SDV folder. Do I make a separate folder for it?
lost imp
Anyone have any experience with the "Animal Husbandry" mod? I've got some animals added in by "Dwarvish", but one of them isn't interacting with the cleaver, even though it should.
Specifically, its the "Giant Naked Mole Rat", the other animals added by Dwarvish seem to work (of the ones I've tested so far)
shell jackal
I don't use that, sorry. I use Fresh Meat instead. xD
lost imp
Eh... the idea of growing meat from plants weirds me out
dire fractal
i got it to work but all the stuff i had here is gone
oh well small victories i guess
proven thicket
Does a Stardrop crop sound broken?
fair vessel
if you're concerned about balance, probably
proven thicket
Well I do have the tractor mod so
lost imp
The only way I could see a Stardrop crop as balanced if it took like... an entire year to grow or something
cyan meadow
hey, more problems lol
can some smart person with actual modding skills (unlinke me lol) take a look at my smapi log? SVE is not working https://smapi.io/log/7a4c62bac7174c71bfd47c36cf47ace9
heavy sail
I know of a mod that adds Stardrop crops, I don’t know how long they take to grow tho
@cyan meadow You need to download TMXLoader, and you should try reinstalling Immersive Farm 2 Remastered.
proven thicket
How about growable fiber?
And how about balancing a Prismatic Shard Plant?
I've made that take two full seasons to grow, with a 15 day regrow period.
heavy sail
I made a Prismatic Shard plant in my game, it takes 2 and half months to grow and is sold for 10000g. I think that should be pretty balanced.
proven thicket
Oh yeah, I just realized that I can just put that rainbow through the seed make and get 3 prismatic seeds
1-3 prismatic seeds
harsh elbow
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
proven thicket
Oh yeah I've also made seeds for earth crystal, quartz, fire quartz, fire opal, and bixite.
I've also reclassified Cola from Even More Recipes as an Artisan good, because I want the Gourmet Chef Achievement.
Growable bomb W H A T
ah well
rose wind
So this is strange. Last week Stardew launched with SMAPI as usual, took a minute to load all the mods and then loaded the actual game. Just now when I tried launching it, it wouldn't load SMAPI at all. Just went straight to the vanilla game. Not sure how that could've happened.
I'm sure I haven't touched anything.
I'll try reinstalling the game, SMAPI and Content Patcher and try again...
rose wind
Steam.
naive drum
if so, are your launch options set?
rose wind
I just found it is not SMAPI that's the problem. It works fine if I just launch the SMAPI application. It must be Steam playing up.
naive drum
Check your launch options you probably managed to erase them accidentally somehow
naive drum
wasn't a waste
cedar narwhal
Has anyone had success getting the Warp Chest mod to work? Smapi says its able to link the chests but i cant get it to stay linked, are there any videos of someone using it?
rigid hatch
I really like Oasis Greenhouse but 
fair vessel
NoClip mod + Tree Transplant mod (enable full grown trees)
standard M.O. anytime you switch greenhouse maps
lost imp
If I yank out a CP mod, everything will just back to how it was, right? (A sprite replacer)
fair vessel
Yep
lost imp
Sweet, ty
cyan meadow
I can't see SVE anymore! It's back to the vanilla game 😦 Here is my SMAPI log : https://smapi.io/log/7a4c62bac7174c71bfd47c36cf47ace9
Anybody know what is wrong? It says I need TMX Loader but when I click on the link it says page not found 😦 I understand that TMX Loader has been replaced by the Map Toolkit, and I have downloaded that but it's still not working.
ashen elbow
you don't seem to have TMXL installed at all
violet crown
Yeah you need to download all of the required mods in order for the main mod to work
cyan meadow
I have the TMX Map Toolkit installed, not sure why that is not showing
gentle glen
is there a mod that can speed up time for your crops
cedar narwhal
im not sure about for your crops specifically but there are mods that skip time in general
Has anyone had success getting the Warp Chest mod to work? Smapi says its able to link the chests but i cant get it to stay linked, are there any videos of someone using it? im trying to figure out a way to transport my artisan goods directly to the shipping bin
violet crown
Yay my mods work! The program takes a little to respond at first but it works! Yay!
violet crown
Imma go to bed now. But I’ll be playing this like all day tomorrow lol
peak karma
crude flume
heh, wrong place to be asking
people here talk about their 100, 250, 700, 900+ mods all the time
rain lava
There are ppl with almost 1000 mods. As long as your hardware is handling it you can go ham 
gentle glen
how does the time mod work
lost imp
Depends on the time mod. One of them lets you just push two different buttons to "slow down" or "speed up" time
gentle glen
oh i didn't know there was two of them
lost imp
there's like... three or four of them 
You probably want
and/or
CJB Cheats Menu also has a "current time" slider in it's options
thorn needle
It's been a while since I played Stardew Valley and it looks like all my mods need updated, do I just delete them from my files and redownload them?
naive drum
that's safest yeah
shy orbit
that's the safest way in general, although some mods might store save-specific information in the mod folder
and configs get deleted that way
sharp belfry
There are ppl with almost 1000 mods. As long as your hardware is handling it you can go ham
people here talk about their 100, 250, 700, 900+ mods all the time
@rain lava @crude flume WHO DARES SUMMON ME
iron furnace
dang here i am installing my almost 200 mods
lapis ferry
ok
faint wharf
Hello x3 I'm having some issues with a couple of mods and also my game periodically crashes- I tried deleting some mods thinking I had too much (or even one was messing up the entire mod list) but now i'm unsure....could anyone lend a possible hand x3 (kinda stressing me out as I am already highly stressed xD) (hhh also my pc is a 32 GB...)
naive drum
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
faint wharf
I hope I did this right o.o kinda tired x3 https://smapi.io/log/278d2c97f56d475383b2bac85e434938
naive drum
okay so firstly if you're worried about space, you should delete Heart based dialogue, All_marriage and Mi's and Magimatica Country Furniture because none of those are complete modloader mods; two are outdated file-replacers and one appears to be made of only PNGs
And secondly you need to delete and reinstall Stardew Valley Expanded
faint wharf
I was hoping I could fix those mods as I tried constantly but its just bleh (even though I saw others playing the heart based one and marriage one....hhh) but yeah I'll delete those and go reinstall SVE. ty qwq
naive drum
(note that both SVE and Seasonal Villager Outfits are large mods - if any one mod is straining your computer it's likely one of those)
faint wharf
My pc is a gaming pc, 32 gb one. it can handle nearly everything- sometimes- besides ark ofc but thats another story, I haven't had any issues but I'm assuming one of the mods messed SVE up or something else happened x3 ty anyways~
naive drum
oh i thought you meant 32 gb of storage not 32 gb of memory
faint wharf
hhhh sorry I should of said that- I'm really tired qwq
naive drum
stardew valley itself is 32 bit and can only use a single-digit number of gigabytes
faint wharf
I see- also quick question, for the heart based dialogue mod is there anyway to really fix it? I know theres quiet a bit of people who are successful in using it (that or i'm just dumb and not installing it correctly) I can send the mod link here if needed- (I just like extra dialogue due to me being- well extra qwq)
naive drum
there's quite a few extra dialogue mods on nexus!
sharp belfry
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2544 is the biggest one I think
naive drum
the thing with the "heart based dialogue" one specifically is that it appears to be using an XNB replacer format, which means it's fiddly to install, awkward to uninstall, doesn't get update alerts or access to SMAPI's error handling, can't use conditional replacement, is more prone to conflicts and is on top of that likely outdated
faint wharf
I see, alrighty. ty, I'll check out that dialogue mod <3 sorry if I seem like a pea brain x3 not really technical savvy just a book worm~
naive drum
it could be updated and converted to a content patcher format but it is not a project for late o'clock since you'd need to unpack it, strip out the xnb formatting, remove any outdated dialogue, add any missing new dialogue, put it in content patcher formatting, and get it a manifest.json to tell smapi what kind of mod it is (and that's assuming you don't want to add any conditionals or change it from Load to EditData)
faint wharf
Alrighty well I deleted the other mods that weren't needed and reinstalled SVE, and now its working <3 tyvm
sharp belfry
THREE
brittle creek
trying to update snapi its really annoying
dire fractal
isn't it mostly automated?
brittle creek
well it says to install it and it replaces the files right
im getting this message
dire fractal
did you reboot your computer and run the installer again?
brittle creek
ill try rebooting it i just wanted to ask here first incase someone had a more indepth solution
dire fractal
I would start with what the installer is telling you. Simple is best (usually)
brittle creek
occams razor yeah
brittle creek
well that did not change anything
its saying ask the second option to delete the file manually is that the smapi internal file?
dire fractal
I believe so yes.
brittle creek
i tried that before was met with a similar message
i backed my files up too just incase
dire fractal
it looks like there's some sort of access permission denial.
I'll be honest, I'm not good with computers, so my ability to help is very limited
brittle creek
probably the computer not realising its in administrator again 
pain in the ass not sure what does it
does not specifically say that though
so who knows
is there any major reasons to update smapi?
because if its a minor patch im starting the think the hassles not worth it
always feels like im playing russian roulette when it comes to updating and installing these mods
only takes one to blow your whole save files brains out
now i cant even enter the smapi folder
its saying im denied
i bet the games broken too now
all good i fixed it
iron furnace
yay
brittle creek
hard reset the computer relogged it was the thing i suspected earlier the computer was not recognising me as its master
sigh
guess the reset thing in the guide was half right
more like a full shut down but oh well different strokes for different folks i guess
real tests gonna be seeing what just happened to my game
if i see void pixels or screen tears im not going to be happy
proven thicket
So what happens if I install even more JA mods and the collections menu?
Gonna find out myself even though it's only been 8 miutes.
Will it mess up the items shipped menu?
Oh yes I can't wait to make some flower art!
iron furnace
i have a mod that uses the numpad for default keybindings but my laptop doesnt have a keypad
and i want to use brackets but it gave an error when i put it in the config
what is the name for the bracket keys? i know for "~' you use OemTilde but idk the one for brackets
shy orbit
you can find the names here: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Key_Bindings
iron furnace
thanks!
dire fractal
Help please? I'm a noob
I have the newest version of SMAPI (3.7.4) and I got rid of all the problem mods I had installed yet the game won't lauch it always says this
[game] The game failed to launch: Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentLoadException: Error loading "LooseSprites\Concessions". File not found. ---> System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Error loading "Content\LooseSprites\Concessions.xnb". File not found. at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.TitleContainer.OpenStream(String name) at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentManager.OpenStream(String assetName) --- End of inner exception stack trace --- at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentManager.OpenStream(String assetName) at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentManager.ReadAsset[T](String assetName, Action`1 recordDisposableObject) at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentManager.Load[T](String assetName) at StardewValley.LocalizedContentManager.LoadBase[T](String assetName) in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\LocalizedContentManager.cs:line 120 at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ContentManagers.BaseContentManager.RawLoad[T](String assetName, Boolean useCache) in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\BaseContentManager.cs:line 261 at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ContentManagers.GameContentManager.RawLoad[T](String assetName, LanguageCode language, Boolean useCache) in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\GameContentManager.cs:line 251 at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Content
Managers.GameContentManager.<>c__DisplayClass9_01.<Load>b__0() in C:\source\_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\GameContentManager.cs:line 107 at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Utilities.ContextHash1.Track[TResult](T key, Func`1 action) in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\Utilities\ContextHash.cs:line 53 at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ContentManagers.GameContentManager.Load[T](String assetName, LanguageCode language, Boolean useCache) in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\GameContentManager.cs:line 103 at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ContentManagers.BaseContentManager.Load[T](String assetName) in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\BaseContentManager.cs:line 99 at StardewValley.Game1.LoadContent() in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 2140 at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.SGame.LoadContent() in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\SGame.cs:line 118 at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Game.Initialize() at StardewValley.Game1.Initialize() in C:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Game1.cs:line 1495 at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Game.RunGame(Boolean useBlockingRun) at Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Game.Run() at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.SCore.RunInteractively() in C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\SCore.cs:line 319
Sorry its so big
I'm just so confused
shy orbit
first i guess you could reinstall the game (or verify the game files on steam)
if you haven't done that yet
shy orbit
here are instructions https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2037-QEUH-3335
shy orbit
no worries
shy orbit
well that's a lot. it'll download the files that failed to verify and replace them
shy orbit
it fixed it? well, nice
dire fractal
I believe so, I changed the title screens textures but its all regular
But it opened throughsmapi
shy orbit
okay. did you use a mod that replaces game files? they are not recommended to use anymore
dire fractal
Oh yeah i have it makes the interface pastel and cute but didnt work
shy orbit
yeah, they are often outdated and often cause problems. in most cases you can find the same mod converted to a better format or at least a similar mod
!xnb
native dragonBOT
XNB mods often break the game and are not recommended. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods for more info (and a list of Content Patcher alternatives), and https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files to fix problems caused by XNB mods. For mod creators, see https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files for help unpacking & editing them (including for use with Content Patcher).
dire fractal
Ahhhh okie thanks so much
shy orbit
you're welcome
hollow depot
Hi does anyone have any tips on how to get more prismatic shards?
fair vessel
mining in skull cavern
or perhaps download a mod that makes them work in crystallariums
hollow depot
I see thanks
proven thicket
Ostriche eggs
dire fractal
One of my mods isnt working its this one https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6852?tab=description
proven thicket
Mining every rock in the Skull Caverns, and also great daily luck, and lucky lunch, @hollow depot
fair vessel
@dire fractal that mod has unusual install instructions, and it won't show up in your log. Make sure you read the description carefully.
proven thicket
Oh whoops i meant to ping gavin
dire fractal
oh yeah I'll check it again now thanks
proven thicket
oh boy how the heck do i get black yarn?
I am glad that the colorful garden doesnt count
that would of been 288 additional items to ship otherwise
dire fractal
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1065?tab=posts does anyone know an updated/working version of this mod? o:
royal arrow
@dire fractal you can check https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods to see if it's listed there! That page has a list of unofficial conversions
royal arrow
proven thicket
There's also home of abanadoned mods
keen moss
That only covers JA and it's a select few. You might be thinking of the unofficial conversions thread on the forums.
proven thicket
I'm very happy that Yoseiris Crops got added to that home
keen moss
I'm glad! I have a conversion for her fences as well but that update for JA isn't out yet. I'm not opposed to maintaining Mi's work if I could get permission from her.
dire fractal
Hhhh can't seem to find a good hat retexture mod ;;
It's either too... pinky girly, or just not in an artstyle that fits my cottage/cluttercore vibes c':
proven thicket
what
fair vessel
Log is always helpful@iron furnace
heavy sail
@iron furnace what is the grass recolor?
fair vessel
There's a lot more info in them than just errors
iron furnace
ok on further inspection i think its working im just dumb
i forgot what the grass was supposed to look like
lapis void
you can try this mod instead if warp chests isn't working, it does something similar https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5187 @cedar narwhal
proven thicket
SHould i double down and get more crop mods?
cyan turret
Hi y'all has anyone ever had trouble uninstalling the vertical tool bar mod?
proven thicket
I never
silk cape
Hi, I've been trying to get SVE to work but for some reason it never loads in my game
dark canopy
@silk cape have you double checked all the folders are in the right place? I had the same issue until I realized I was missing a single folder on accident.
iron furnace
still having an issue with my grass recolor not loading log: https://smapi.io/log/73b821cbfb4643928d52b47d50870524
silk cape
What could i be missing? (I'm very new to this(
When loading it said i was missing something in assets
iron furnace
could you post a log?
dark canopy
^-- if there's a message, the log helps tons.
shy orbit
!log @silk cape
native dragonBOT
@silk cape Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
silk cape
Ok one sec!
proven thicket
no goofs yet on the collections menu
fair vessel
@iron furnace which grass mod is the one?
iron furnace
ali's grass
fair vessel
@iron furnace hm ok. Can you open up your game, walk outside where the grass is, type patch summary into the smapi console, hit enter, and then upload the new log?
iron furnace
ok
silk cape
Do i export the smapi "install on windows" to the website?
fair vessel
there is instructions to find the log on that webpage
royal arrow
Are there mods to expand on the foraging aspect of SDV? I realized it's one of my favorite parts of the game, exploring the map to see what I might find 😄 I know Farmer to Florist has an FTM component to add daisies as a forageable in fall, and Spirit's Eve Hunt also adds stuff to forage on Spirit's Eve, but I was wondering if there's any other mods out there like that o:
fair vessel
@silk cape SVE seems to be loading. Only weird thing I see is that you have a stray "assets" folder in your mods unattached to anything.
Do you see the new NPC's house in town when you go past Pierre's, for example?
dark canopy
@royal arrow it's technically not an extension to foraging, but I do like to get lost in the DeepWoods mod since exploring is one of my favorite aspects (with foraging being a close second).
shy orbit
garden village adds some forage spawns i think
silk cape
@silk cape SVE seems to be loading. Only weird thing I see is that you have a stray "assets" folder in your mods unattached to anything.
Do you see the new NPC's house in town when you go past Pierre's, for example?
@fair vessel i didn't exactly go to check bc i went straight to the map to see changes but i don't think i saw any
royal arrow
This is true, I do have DeepWoods installed, although in my current save I'm too early to go in there just yet xD
I might spring for Garden Village, I imagine the Walk to Desert add-on also might use that stuff o:
shy orbit
minerva's harder cc bundles has a ppja themed forage pack, but it has some unintended behavior
fair vessel
@silk cape sure. Once you open the game and walk into town - if you still don't see the new house, upload the new log from that play session
royal arrow
Thank you Vibel and Ambedrake for your suggestions! 
iron furnace
so i looked thru my own log and it says it isnt applying my grass recolor
it knows its there but it isnt using it
shy orbit
challenging community center bundles has a forage pack too
fair vessel
mhm, it says it's set to AlternateVibrant, but it isn't getting applied.
royal arrow
Ah, I'm already using a CC bundle mod
fair vessel
Could this be because you have More Grass mod installed? I don't know how that mod works, it might intercept normal usage of the grass assets.
iron furnace
ill check
dire fractal
Fizzy Drinks adds some new forage that you can use for new artisan goods
royal arrow
Oh, yea I'm using More Grass, you have to install grass recolors in a specific way to get them to work
shy orbit
(that's a mod idea, make interesting/useful forage spawns around the world)
royal arrow
I had to abandon the simple CP grass recolor I use because I switched to More Grass
iron furnace
looking at what more grass does i dont even think i need it
i already have grass growth and winter grass installed
My grass works!
Thank you for the help!
proven thicket
So. Hybrid crop engine
Also Mutil-Yield Harvest
what
W H A T
Also oh boy I have lot more now.
I'm gonna have to recount
ashen garnet
QUESTION! I think I want to add some nee crops to my game. Any recommendations?
random mortar
Yo, does anyone know any good mods for Stardew Valley? Also how to add the mod safely. I've never modded SDV before.
royal arrow
!modrecs TheRealBakugou#6514
native dragonBOT
@random mortar Check out https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/b608892d3e60bd25d0eea71ca7584649 for a list of mods recommended by Pathoschild! They're all compatible with the latest versions of SMAPI and Stardew Valley on Linux/Mac/Windows.
royal arrow
@ashen garnet you can search for PPJA on nexus mods, there are a ton there. Popular are Fruits and Veggies, More Trees, and Farmer to Florist, to name a few
oak solar
I used mega storage once before and kinda want to use it again but I remember it had a lot of bugs, does anyone know solutions or alternative mods?
its a mod that lets you build one huge chest to put all your stuff
random mortar
Dope! Thank you!
oak solar
if so please tag me ^^
royal arrow
@oak solar have you checked out ChestEx on nexus? It lets you specify the size of chests (also affects the fridge). Note it's not fully compatible with Automate though, because it won't allow Automate to put items inside the chests past the vanilla storage limit (I think it also won't let Automate pull items inside the chests past the vanilla storage limit either)
I personally use Chests Anywhere, which is fully compatible with Automate, and just plan to stick the bunch of chests into sheds or something lol
proven thicket
807...
EIGHT HUNDERED SEVEN!!!
If I exclude Colorful Garden, it's actually 519.
but HOLY SHIT!
silk cape
That's a lot of s e e d s
proven thicket
Yes:
Winter Lychee, Ancient Crops, Kola Nut, Cannabis Kit, Champagne Wishes, Christmas Crops, Eemie’s Crops, Fantasy Crops, Farmer to Florist, Fizzy Drinks, Fresh Meat, PPJA Fruits & Veggies, Gem & Mineral Crops, Green Pear, Guava Tree, Korea Blossom, Kynseed Crops, Kynseed Trees, Lucky Clover, Marsh Mallows, Mizu’s Flowers, Monster Crops, Mouse-Ear Cress, Mulberry, Neo’s Succulent Farm, Pumpkin Days Hybrids Crops, Pumpkin Days Hybrids Trees, Six Plantable Crop for Winter, Soda Vine, Spoopy Valley, SSaturn’s Tropical Farm, Stardew Vineyard, Tea Time, Winter Crops, Yoseiris Crops, Bonster’s Fruit & Veggies, Bonster’s Trees, Colorful Garden, Forage to Farm, Mae’s Trees, and Stephan’s Lots of Wild Crops.
thorn needle
I think SVE 1.11 is coming soon, should I wait for that before I start my new play through? (Haven’t played stardew in a while)
dire fractal
Oh damn that's a lot hghege
oak solar
I do use chest ex as well as chests anywhere but I now have a lot of chests
dire fractal
I'll take a look at all those!
proven thicket
I think one of those mods made shit up
prime grove
Hey whats a good mod for multiplayer. like i wanna have a farm with more that 5 players is there a good mod for that?
can anyone help me with that
strange river
Sounds like Unlimited Players is what you want: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2213
prime grove
ok thank you
proven thicket
wait, does that mean 10 thousand players at once?
proven thicket
does that exist?
fair vessel
And yoba knows what sort of lag you'd get
But yeah, there really is no appreciable limit
I kinda want to try setting a record now...
How many farmers could we coordinate to get logged on at once?
royal arrow
Wouldn't all players need a decent computer, too?
fair vessel
Everyone having just the minimal mod loadout needed for this
And then spread out all over the maps and take screenshots
proven thicket
Yeah a $10k computer
fair vessel
CJB item spawner included in the modlist so that everyone can customize their look
proven thicket
ebon cradle
I have an idea for a MOD. Is this the right place to post it?
fair vessel
for one you want to make, or one you hope someone else might make?
ebon cradle
I've never modded before so not sure if I have the time or knowledge to do it.
fair vessel
well, either way, the best place is #making-mods-general
There is a link in the pinned posts there too for the mod ideas board, best to also post there so the idea doesn't get lost
ebon cradle
My idea is to increase the amount of money one can have in the game. If you go over 99,999,999 you get reset to zero. How complicated would this be to make?
fair vessel
Difficult for a first mod. Needs C# for sure
(and that is only a visual glitch btw)
It shows 0, but all the money is still there.
the real limit is at 2,147,483,647
(and that further limit would be especially difficult to fix)
ebon cradle
Sounds like I should pass this idea along.
ebon cradle
Idea for Money Display has been posted. https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas/issues/591
dire fractal
I want to start using mods, Can anyone get me the main source and teach me how to download it and stuff?
Like for example getting tmodloader and how to download mods (example) you can dm me
And please be a high rank so I can trust you
lapis void
!pins @dire fractal
native dragonBOT
@dire fractal Check the pinned messages for useful info and links!
silk cape
In SVE is the weather supposed to be different from SVD?
ashen elbow
no?
royal arrow
Did you also download Climates of Ferngill by any chance o.o?
gusty marsh
Hi there, hope everyone is well, does anyone know what mod could be causing this issue? Whenever I talk to lewis at the flower dance festival to start the dance, the dialogue loops endlessly to select yes or no. I have a ton of mods, plenty are custom npc's, which i figure may be the issue, but I wasn't able to find which was causing the issue, if anyone knows what mod is causing the issue, or a workaround to stop the looping dialogue, please let me know. Also here's my log: https://smapi.io/log/c44281ad8f3947da950aaf66839b342a
royal arrow
Hi Mich! 
right off the bat, it looks like your custom NPC Denver is very out of date, so I recommend updating that mod and the rest that could use updates, I'll keep looking at your log
silk cape
Did you also download Climates of Ferngill by any chance o.o?
@royal arrow no u haven't :0c
ashen elbow
huh
silk cape
Also my map hasn't changed either ao i can't see the new areas
ashen elbow
MMMM sve,,,, i wanna use it so badly,, but the last time i installed it, my game was like 5fps
gusty marsh
okay, will do, i know almost all of the update are manifest errors, or caused by mod updater, but im not sure about denver so let me give that a try, thank you!
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
shy orbit
@gusty marsh it's an issue with mona
gusty marsh
oh thank you! let me see if it works without her.
shy orbit
if you remove the festival locations part of her it should work
royal arrow
@silk cape you don't seem to have anything installed that would be altering the weather, could you elaborate on what your issue is? Also, can you confirm you installed everything for SVE per the instructions here https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/wiki/Install-guide?
gusty marsh
trying that now let me see
royal arrow
Also yea sorry Mich, your log is taking forevers to load on my computer, glad Vibel was able to help
silk cape
let me check if i have everything installed
gusty marsh
no problem i know i have wayyy too many mods lol
shy orbit
well, if it works (but it's a known issue with the mod)
silk cape
@royal arrow also to elaborate what i mean- I'm basically saying that the weather channel is still the one from vanilla SDV and so is the map and idk why
royal arrow
I didn't realize SVE changes the weather channel, I know Climates of Ferngill does o.o
And when you say map, do you mean the actual locations, or the map in the menu? If it's the 2nd one, note that that is a separate mod called NPC Map Locations on nexus. There's a file specific to SVE
outer turret
Does anyone know why it happens with Mona?
silk cape
oh? I didn't know that- do you possibly have the link? @royal arrow
royal arrow
it's on nexus
silk cape
oki thanks uwu
viral summit
Does Stardew Valley Expanded lag alot?
royal arrow
Depends on your device and how many mods you have
There is at least 1 tweak I know of to help reduce the lag though
.quote 5084
devout pumiceBOT
[#5084] "If you're experiencing lag while using Stardew Valley Expanded (SVE), try opening the Farm Type Manager (FTM) config.json with a text editor (Notepad works) and changing MonsterLimitPerLocation to 200 or lower, but not below 50." - LenneDalben (24 Sep 2020 @ 09:50:17 PM UTC)
gusty marsh
It worked thanks Vibel!!!!
shy orbit
np
flat shuttle
anyone else refreshing SVE's nexus page every like 5 mins? lol
forest basin
wait so its updating or no
flat shuttle
it says updating to 1.11
royal arrow
Maybe Flash had to rewrite parts of the mod description... Or had to step away 😆
flat shuttle
maybe but ive been watching it since 3:30 xD im so excited 😛
rare quest
(actually fixing a crash someone just reported on the beta page 
)
Release must be perfect!
forest basin
oh ok
flat shuttle
ahh
forest basin
flash what do you use to make mods
flat shuttle
,id assume c# like others right?
forest basin
probably
royal arrow
.quote 4943
devout pumiceBOT
[#4943] "Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend https://gist.github.com/paradigmnomad/675687bdfa1fb1e1c9c001f23475e00f" - ParadigmNomad (27 Jul 2020 @ 05:09:05 PM UTC)
rare quest
Most of what I do is actually in Notepad ++
royal arrow
Although, I'm not Flash
forest basin
oh nice
forest basin
lol
royal arrow
C# is only required if you're making SMAPI mods. You can do lots with existing frameworks
rare quest
But for other programs, I use photoshop, Tiled, Visual Studio, and FL Studio.
royal arrow
And then you can use Notepad++ or something else
flat shuttle
true just json files 😛 i use Visual studio's code since thats what im used to 😛
forest basin
ok cool. im a sophmore taking some comp sci classes during hs and was wondering
flat shuttle
i just always assumed the costom config stuff and the like needed some c# but i havent looked into it
royal arrow
Yea I moved to VS Code from Notepad++, and I love it ☺️ although if you have more questions about how to make mods, #making-mods-general is nice and friendly! 
rare quest
You just need a text editor to change configurations!
forest basin
honestly i am not well learnt with any language besides Processing JS so...
probably wont be modding anything for a while... or ever...
depends if I have the motivation
flat shuttle
no i mean to make a config file for like pfm mods and such, not to edit exsisting configs D;
royal arrow
Not all framework mods support config files o:
keen moss
PFM doesn't support config files. You'd have to edit the source code to do that.
royal arrow
You can always make a copy / backup as well, before you do it o:
flat shuttle
yea i was just thinking for people that are more intimidated by the block of text some PFM things can become having an option to set like global producing amounts/rates or something 😛 but its definitely not necessary
flat shuttle
some mod i have is adding a travel core, anyone know what thats for?
keen moss
Travel core? Is it an object or a mod requiring it?
flat shuttle
its an object, i found it in my craftable menu, costs one void and one sun core or whatever they are called 😛
proven thicket
*** A B S O L U T E G L O R Y ***
naive drum
is this every produce item in the game just taking over the forest
ashen elbow
Yes
proven thicket
yes
ashen elbow
squints Is that.. Coffee?
ashen elbow
MMm meat
proven thicket
everything
stable anchor
@rare quest sorry to bother you but i have a question about SVE 
Sooo if i wanted to use the vanilla creepy song bigDrums in events, would people with SVE installed still hear the battle music for the Crimson Badlands? (That version smacks, but I need the unsettling vanilla version)
rare quest
SVE is no longer replacing vanilla tracks in 1.11!
gusty marsh
@flat shuttle the travel cor is part of spacechase's magic mod, its used as a catalyst for the teleportation spell i believe
proven thicket
How do i reorder a mod?
I need to reposotion the Colorful Garden Mod so there's not a huge gap
keen moss
You can put a letter or a symbol in front of the mod name to bump it up in load order if that's what you mean? Assuming the mod doesn't rely on the one you're trying to make it load before.
So if you wanted Colorful Garden Mod to be above Best Garden Mod you could do !Colorful Garden Mod or bColorful Garden Mod
proven thicket
I want to put it at the bottom, so after I finished this day, I shall put 2 Z's in front of it.
@keen moss so like this right?
keen moss
To the folder name itself
silk stone
would someone help me with something seemingly small please?
keen moss
!ask
native dragonBOT
Feel free to ask your question or describe your issue here, and someone will help if they can :)
proven thicket
I also mean like, make the color seeds at the bottom of the catalogue instead of between bonster and forager to farm.
keen moss
OH Yeah that's not possible
JA seeds are added in the same order as vanilla (this is from memory) Crops -> Flowers -> Trees -> Other
proven thicket
Well, I guess ok then
keen moss
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2012 Better Shop Menu helps to organize them a bit but it's still not what you're looking for.
patent sluice
apologies if this is a) obvious or b) already answered, but if i installed a mod that adds more dialogue options + heart events, would i need to start a new save file ? or would i get the new heart events on the current save file automatically ?
naive drum
you'd get them from the current save if you met the requirements
keen moss
However it is possible to miss some stuff depending on if it's only able to happen in say Y1 for example.
naive drum
eg if you had 8 hearts and the dialogue only played below 4 hearts you wouldn't get that dialogue
patent sluice
ohh shoot that makes sense
naive drum
so yeah the game would treat it as though the heart events etc had existed from the point the save was created and you just somehow managed to avoid them
patent sluice
i dont wanna start a new save bc i have 40+ hours in this one, but i really want the expanded dialogue options 
ah well
proven thicket
I supposed the only I to uninstall it, but keep a few colors.
patent sluice
well i suppose i'll be okay with ONLY the events and not the early dialogue. thank u !!
naive drum
any dialogue that applied to the current heart levels would be applied!
proven thicket
I'm just only gonna keep the red and whites
cyan meadow
Hey! More help please 🙂 I have the SVE mod with the Immersive Farm but my SMAPI Log says different - can someone help me figure out the errors? https://smapi.io/log/26dd9e2ee31b43aa9003664294378fab
proven thicket
Had to sell all of my color seeds
cyan meadow
Maybe try installing the new version of ZaneYork's port? And the new version of SMAPI 🙂 I'm no smart person but that might help @jaunty wind
You could also ask on Nexus Mods!
jaunty wind
I tried installing the new version of smapi and nothing changed
cyan meadow
What about the new port?
proven thicket
time to ebgin
jaunty wind
whats a port 😳 😳 😳
keen moss
@cyan meadow I'm not familiar with Android but it looks like you have an extra folder for Harvey's Personality Mod, SVO, and SVE + IFR2 which is causing the errors
@jaunty wind A port in this case is when you take something and put it onto something else. Hence SMAPI for Android being a port of SMAPI for desktop
jaunty wind
Im on pc it says the port is for android so that gonna be a no from me dawg
cyan meadow
@keen moss Ok, here's a pic of my mods folder
keen moss
@jaunty wind Your other issue is you're running v1.3.36 of the game. The latest is 1.4.5. Did you purchase it through Steam or GoG?
jaunty wind
steam i should probably update first i guess
cyan meadow
I asked at the forums and they said it was ok to put folders in my mods folder. Should I remove the extra folders?
keen moss
It should be fine. Did you get SVE from Flash's Nexus page? That's some odd folder naming.
jaunty wind
Steam isnt giving me an option to update hmmmmm
keen moss
@ Chill You can always uninstall and reinstall if need be.
cyan meadow
Hm... yeah I guess so I switched File Manager Apps that might be something
jaunty wind
I can try
cyan meadow
But that file has been up for months and it worked fine with it
Any ideas?
Should I resolve the folders and take the mods out of them
keen moss
Sadly I'm not super familiar with Android since I don't use it but the only thing I can think of is when SVE 1.11 drops to do a clean install of SVE.
keen moss
It should be releasing sometime today/tomorrow. There were some last minute bug fixes.
amber yacht
We're playing on a 3 player farm, and one player is experiencing a lag of 2 "day hours", including recieving the pause/unpause events. We're all on the same network, sitting next to each other. Rebooted/etc, tried everything I know to try
we've tried it modded and unmodded
Any known issues that I can look at?
keen moss
If it happens unmodded (no SMAPI installed or outdated XNB mods still installed) I would try asking in #vanilla-tech-support
It sounds like it could be a network issue.
proven thicket
I literally only kept these colors.
amber yacht
On a new save file (0 mods) it's fine. On the old save file, it "lags" the same with with 0 and modded (SDV expanded++)
proven thicket
So only white and red because that's my favorite color combination
amber yacht
It's not network issue, because it's 2 "in-game hours" behind (he wakes up at 8am host time, 6am farmhand time, and slowly gets slower as the day goes
keen moss
Oh I thought you meant that there were two hours of the day in-game where he'd lag
amber yacht
no, it's like the start times are out of sync
proven thicket
Only white and red, maybe I'll readd blue and green
amber yacht
he could see all of the events happening (including NPCs and players, but 2 in-game hours after
(we noticed because we both gathered the same honey 🤣 )
native dragonBOT
@amber yacht Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
fair vessel
From both you and the farmhand with the lag, please
amber yacht
Mine or his?
pastel arch
If it only happens with the old save file, even without mods, it's probably the save file itself and not mods/the game
fair vessel
Ye but what on earth in a save file could do that? 🤔
amber yacht
It's eerily consistent too
pastel arch
Yeah, I wouldn't even think save files could affect the time of day you start at
fair vessel
a log from a game session with both of you connected, playing with the mods you had installed, going through a few in-game hours of playtime would give the most helpful info I think
amber yacht
!log @dire fractal
native dragonBOT
@dire fractal Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
amber yacht
@fair vessel @amber yacht is the host, @dire fractal is the client
(fwiw, we have a third client who is experiencing no issues in any state)
fair vessel
and still showing same lag hey?
amber yacht
yeah
fair vessel
Have either of you previously used other mods on this save and later uninstalled them?
fair vessel
hmmm
I'm not yet finding any unusual activity in the logs, this is all very strange 🤔
amber yacht
and if I wasn't sitting next to him able see how it's an exact delayed history, I'd just say lag
fair vessel
I do notice one mod that is only installed by @amber yacht and not @dire fractal, Monster Log Anywhere
amber yacht
but he is seeing us run by at exactly the right time
amber yacht
more data:
fair vessel
so is it like,
at 7am your time you run past Taku's house
Taku wakes up when it's 8am kpom's time but Taku's clock shows 6am
later 9am kpom is in the mountains doing something else, but Taku sees 7am on the clock and walks outside and sees kpom running past?
Did I get the right idea or am I very confused? lol
amber yacht
Sat Oct 10 21:30:13 CDT 2020 (host seeing connect) 730 in game time
Sat Oct 10 21:31:11 CDT 2020 (farmhand see's connect) 850 host time, 730 farm hand time
No, you got it exactly right
fair vessel
what the everliving hell. LOL
amber yacht
he "starts" the day the same time I see him joining
but... two hours behind
I wonder if a mod "joins" the game and sleeps somehow
I dunno how the clocks are kept in sync
(system clocks are identical as well)
pastel arch
You might be able to fix it by deleting his data from the save and starting a new character for him, using mods/etc to get back to the same position
fair vessel
can you please share a copy of the save file here?
amber yacht
🤯
fair vessel
before doing that
amber yacht
Yeah.
fair vessel
you can zip and send the whole folder for the save
amber yacht
Gotta find them
fair vessel
or you can just send the two files separately
(only the PlayerName_321292892 file and SaveGameInfo file are needed)
amber yacht
also, gonna start a game where he picks a new farmhand and see
pastel arch
To make the bot less angy, you can send fewer, longer messages. It uses the number of messages sent to configure slowmode 🙂
amber yacht
host game file
pastel arch
Yep, slowmode is configured automatically based on how busy the channel is
amber yacht
Also... It will cause confusion, but his character is accidentally named the same
pastel arch
That may actually have something to do with it
fair vessel
what's the Rename mod btw? I notice it mentioned in @dire fractal's log though it isn't loading in because it's incompatible
amber yacht
we're on Y2 of the save file with all the same mods
fair vessel
oh. yeah that... might
amber yacht
a mod he tried to get to fix that problem
dire fractal
I also removed that rename mod and same problem persisted
amber yacht
Host: (me) should be Tina and @dire fractal 's character (the farmhand Tina) should be renamed to... Amy
But we gave up on that because the mod never worked
amber yacht
Lila I think
She isn't experiencing any issues, to make the whole ordeal even more strange
@dire fractal and I are on linux, lila's on osX (dunno if that makes a difference at all)
fair vessel
ok, replace your file named the same with this one, and then try it and see if anything changes
fair vessel
I haven't looked any deeper yet to see if there's anything weird in the farmhand data, but if the lag is still there I will poke around
fair vessel
wtf lol
fair vessel
it crashed even before you had a chance to have Taku connect?
keen moss
sees Linux in the log I miss mouse 
amber yacht
mouse?
fair vessel
you did load the savefile though? like it crashed after you clicked it?
fair vessel
(mouse = a very knowledgable person who used to be an admin here before stepping down recently)
keen moss
(our Linux person)
amber yacht
aww, that's too bad.
fair vessel
huh. It seems to have switched from 'titleScreenGameMode (0)' to 'loadingMode (6)' and immediately back to titleScreenGameMode (0)' because a "file did not exist"
did you use the file I sent to replace the file you had of the same name? screenshot of inside of save folder maybe?
fair vessel
try moving the .bak one to keep it somewhere else instead
amber yacht
Relevant?
fair vessel
extra folders and files in Saves can really confuse the game
proven thicket
fair vessel
most likely not a PyTK thing
amber yacht
Crashed same way with the .bak and .zip moved to ~
fair vessel
so move all other things called Tina_258497209 out of the Saves folder except for the main Tina_258497209 folder, with the file I sent you placed into it (overwriting the original Tina_258497209 file)
amber yacht
Yeah, that's what I just did
fair vessel
screenshot of inside Tina_258497209 folder?
fair vessel
hm?
amber yacht
Starting SDV adds those files back
fair vessel
whaaaat?
amber yacht
that... that makes zero sense
fair vessel
Steam Cloud shenanigans?
fair vessel
Try starting the game, then removing the files
amber yacht
I forrgot that existed
fair vessel
That should keep them gone
...but wait the game will crash
gotta disable the steam cloud then I guess
maybe launch without steam?
idk 😬
amber yacht
Ok, removing them after the SDV client launched seems to keep them gone (for now)
Oh, but he's still Tina. I bet it replaced the one I unzipped of yours
Ugh
fair vessel
oh I bet it did yeah
fair vessel
oh boy
amber yacht
I blame linux
fair vessel
Same savefile, new farmhand has unique name?
amber yacht
Yeah, Test Lag
fair vessel
And remind me, on a new savefile it does not happen?
amber yacht
It was only 30 minutes behind
new save file, no mods it did not
new save file, same mods?
Haven't tried that
fair vessel
guess that's next to be thorough
on the whole though, I am completely flummoxed
Not only do I have no ideas for the cause of this... even as someone who regularly digs around and modifies the game code myself I have absolutely no idea what on earth in the inner workings could possibly be related to or produce these results
amber yacht
Yeah, it sounds just... impossibly... impossible
Like, I have no idea how you would make this behavior as a mod
if you wanted to do it on purpose
fair vessel
Exactly!
amber yacht
New save file, all mods, no lag
amber yacht
@fair vessel thanks for helping us look at this. I'm gonna drop offline and do something that is less argumentative than my computer is being right now
fair vessel
ok 😅
amber yacht
I'll ping you again if/when we try looking at this again (or if it magically fixes itself)
dire fractal
Total noob to mods for SDV question: Can you make a wilderness style game with a downloaded map?
fair vessel
like, have a modded farm map with monsters on it like wilderness farm?
Yes, but it can depend on the mod
Look for farm map mods that replace wilderness map OR (more likely) that have a config setting for which map to replace
ashen elbow
Or if ur feeling real bold go in the files and force it to replace the wilderness map
dire fractal
ooh
I can force it to do things?
will that replace the wilderness map?
permanently?
ashen elbow
yeah, like,, if the mod doesn't have a config for it, you can go in and edit the content.json
(not permanently, unless you never uninstall it)
dire fractal
thank you, both of you, I'm going to try to replace so that I can use specific maps
fair vessel
Another option is to use cheats or console commands temporarily when you start a game just to access the witch hut and switch on monster spawns with a strange bun offering
Then any farm can behave like the wilderness farm for monsters
viral summit
when is stardew expaned coming back? I need to download it.
fair vessel
wdym?
viral summit
The creator hid it temporarly to update it
fair vessel
Oh I see, it's hidden? Odd choice, but I bet it will be back within a day or so
modest estuary
I wonder why they would need to do that
restive verge
flashshifter said there was a fatal bug reported right while they were updating the mod
so it'll be done when that is fixed
restive verge
crash to desktop
fair vessel
oof, no good
outer turret
Hmmm so I'm on Marketpalooza and instead of Nikolai and John (?) I have Riley and Paul??
restive verge
silly question btw but does paul replace harvey?
outer turret
Nope hes an independent npc. I pretend hes Harvey's boyfriend.
restive verge
maru's a bit young for harvey anyway