That's interesting
#archived-modded-support
restive zodiac
I'm trying to think of what these combinations have in common in a general sense - SVO does things on location change (like inside/outside sprites), so that could be relevant but I'm not sure how exactly that could tie in with the SVE install 
I don't play normally with any of these installed except SVO, but I am positive I have used them all together in testing at one point or another -- just possibly not recently enough to be of any use. I've been having to spend a lot of time on Windows of late and am kind of far behind on various versions of these...
I'm curious if it still happens if you edit the main SVE manifest to remove dependencies on everything except the core packs needed for it to function, mainly the content patcher one and the TMXL one, and strip out the all the details packs so it's just NPCs + locations...
serene marsh
gray remnant
Holy crap guys i gotta give a shoutout to yuisdrawing's sebastian hi-res portrait
It looks amaze 
http://yuisdrawing.tumblr.com check it out
upper yacht
My quest framework content pack adds a little bit with Vincent and Caroline, though I made them using the add conversation topic which I can't get my PR to blend nicely with QF...
@deep totem I think I described how it will be best in QF, use the events on the quests, add listeners on them and handle add/remove the topic. You PR still waiting to do it and be merged.
restive zodiac
@arctic mantle If you need help with something, you'll need to explain your issue for anyone to be able to help :) Without knowing anything else about your problem, all I can say is you can start with a SMAPI log! https://smapi.io/log and a description of what you need help with.
balmy oak
I remember seeing something about a mod that lets you date and marry all villagers, does anyone know anything about that?
restive zodiac
Probably Looking For Love: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3054.
balmy oak
thank you!
steel lava
So when my friend join my game, her smapi shows this.
15:57:32 ERROR SpaceCore This mod failed in the GameLoop.SaveLoaded event. Technical details:
System.InvalidOperationException: Can't use Helper.Data.ReadSaveData because this isn't the main player. (Save files are stored on the main player's computer.)
在 StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ModHelpers.DataHelper.ReadSaveData[TModel](String key) 位置 C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ModHelpers\DataHelper.cs:行号 85
在 SpaceCore.SpaceCore.onSaveLoaded(Object sender, SaveLoadedEventArgs e) 位置 G:\StardewValley\Mods_1.4\SpaceCore_SDV\SpaceCore.cs:行号 191
在 StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Events.ManagedEvent1.<>c__DisplayClass16_1.<Raise>b__2() 位置 C:\source\_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\Events\ManagedEvent.cs:行号 129 在 StardewModdingAPI.Framework.PerformanceMonitoring.PerformanceMonitor.Track(String collectionName, String sourceName, Action action) 位置 C:\source\_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\PerformanceMonitoring\PerformanceMonitor.cs:行号 87 在 StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Events.ManagedEvent1.<>c__DisplayClass16_0.<Raise>b__1() 位置 C:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\Events\ManagedEvent.cs:行号 129
I think I understand what this means
it means the save is stored on my computer right? I just want to ask does this have some sort of problem?
robust bison
multiplayer saves are always stored on the hosts computer
and yes that error is normal
steel lava
Ahhh ok, thanks a lot 🙂
wind cairn
Yo, I recently downloaded the splitscreen mod but I can't keep focus on both windows at once
I can only interact with one or the other
fair vessel
do you have the unofficial update?
robust bison
spiltscreen mod I'm assuming
wind cairn
I can run two clients
But it's just the focus issue that is giving me trouble, I had it installed previously, I'm not sure how I did it back then
wind cairn
oh um, alright I'll try that thanks
robust bison
yeah the last official update to spiltscreen was nearly a year before 1.4
fair vessel
For future, you can always check the compatibility status of any SMAPI mod (and see if there are unofficial updates) here:
https://smapi.io/mods
deep totem
@upper yacht, yep you explained it (and I believe actual porgrammmer will understand and know what to do), it just I don't get how to do it... Tweaking QF is like my restless bold attempt to try out C# modding which left me clueless. I'd definitely love to have the feature but atm I kinda avoid learning C# 😓
prime tapir
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
how to easily send someone the mods i'm using so that they can download them?
inner bison
Hello! I'm trying to to get stardew vallley expanded to work but the mod won't load. I have all the mods that SDVE needs but for some reason it's not working. I took a small gander at the logs myself and it's not even trying to load/mention the mod(s) in the log. Any tips? logs: https://smapi.io/log/7a9eacbca438491082c47a74fb6978df
naive drum
It looks like you're using the Vortex mod manager, and it has improperly extracted Tractor Mod and completely failed to put SVE etc in your mods folder at all.
prime tapir
the errors that i could see ingame were that emerald farm was gone, nothing there, there is 2 adventurers guilds, 2 marlon, gunther is invisible, i don want and extra marlon nd gunther on my social list but they are sill there even though i deleted the mod. stardew aquarium isnt working as usual and the amusement park is also not working. idek what cjb cheats is doing, its just an endless error. idk what the error with tmx is eather. i just need a lot of help and i am bad at modding. https://smapi.io/log/ad1a5a9b5a0f49cf93ced9a90831803f
inner bison
@naive drum What do you suggest I do?
naive drum
install the mods manually!
just take them out of their zips and put them in the mods folder; Vortex is really made for Skyrim and is rather bad at handling Stardew mods
inner bison
I did. I extracted the files from the zip manually after it did not work the first time 🤔
naive drum
And you put them in the Stardew Valley mods folder, and made sure Vortex wasn't overriding your mods folder?
inner bison
"made sure Vortex wasn't overriding your mods folder?" I didn't do this part
deep totem
@prime tapir i'd suggest updating the mods first... Can't scroll through the log on phone smh hut I noticed many mods need update
inner bison
I run the game through vortex so I guess that might be the problem?
naive drum
Yeah probably
prime tapir
some of the mods with error dont need updates.
ill do it later updating takes a while lol
what happens if you delete your entire mod folder and create a new one? will it still work because tbh i really want to?
are there mods that change things outside of the mods folder because i only remember one mod that required me to change something in a file other than mods.
and how do you make only some mods appear in certain files?
naive drum
if you delete your entire mods folder and make a new one named Mods that will be fine.
Mods that ask you to change things outside the mods folder are bad ideas and you can uninstall that mod like this:
!reset
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)
prime tapir
is there a way to copy the mods in the folder so i can see which mods ive had before in a list
naive drum
it should be in your SMAPI log so just put that somewhere
you can put it in the parser if you want a better-formatted list
prime tapir
how?
naive drum
move smapi log from its default location elsewhere like any other file
if you want a list that is not in notepad formatting, upload the log file to the smapi.io/log site
prime tapir
!reset
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)
naive drum
as for mod groups - there's some stuff on the wiki about how to use shortcut properties to tell SMAPI to use a different mods folder; you then will launch the game with whichever mod group you want (via the relevant shortcut you made) and then just have some files you only play with mod group 1 and some with mod group 2
yeah follow the link for how
prime tapir
how do you make it so that only some mods open on one save file
prime tapir
how do you make a new folder?
inner bison
@naive drum I got SDVE working thanks to your help. I had to manually reinstall everything but I got it working now: Cheers!
naive drum
no problem raabinz!
and whatyasay you literally rightclick on the spot you want the new folder in and click "new" and then "new folder"
prime tapir
ok lol
dire fractal
Potrait mods only affect the person who has them right?
naive drum
yeah
dire fractal
Are there other mods similar to portrait mods where it only affects the person who has it?
deep totem
!mphelp
native dragonBOT
See this page for connection issues in multiplayer: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Can.27t_connect_to_another_player_in_multiplayer. (Applies to both vanilla and modded games; console players just check as many steps as you can!)
naive drum
like "replaces the farmhouse with this other farmhouse image"
deep totem
oops wrong one
naive drum
also, you can have the tractor mod even if not all players have it - the tractor is, internally, kind of sort of a really fancy horse, so anyone without the tractor mod just sees a horse that causes things to happen near it
deep totem
!mpmods
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide#Do_mods_work_in_multiplayer.3F for details on how mods work in multiplayer. :)
deep totem
Big dave: the latest link explains in general how the mods work in multiplayer
dire fractal
question : is there a mod that either automatically clears the farm for you from all the clutter etc? >>
naive drum
you can use reset terrain features!
dire fractal
do you have a link to it?
dire fractal
I didn't need the resources either way lmao
prime tapir
!reset
native dragonBOT
See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Reset_your_content_files for instructions on resetting your game files! You may also want to check this list of XNB > Content Patcher conversions (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Using_XNB_mods#Alternatives_using_Content_Patcher) to see if there are already replacements for any XNB mods you may have been using :)
prime tapir
im doing the mod group thing but i dont have a file called StardewModdingAPI.exe, i have one called StardewModdingAPI.exe.config though.
so idk what to do.
[im sorry for being a total noob btw lol]
deep totem
StardewModdingAPI.exe is the file used to run the game with SMAPI,,,
simple swallow
what does one do if items keep getting changed into other items inbetween different game sessions 👀
simple swallow
smapi gives me a bunch of errors, something with json and pytk but I can't tell what exactly is going on tbh
oh I'm using a shitton of mods
like 650+
sharp belfry
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
outer turret
You need to update a lot of things!
simple swallow
would that help?
outer turret
Well it wouldnt hurt
fading glen
I notice that SMAPI contains the functionality for noticing when there is an updated version of a mod that's currently installed; if it can do that, surely it's just a few extra lines of code to automatically grab the new version and install it? is there some functionality for this that i'm not seeing?
outer turret
And definitely with pytk
Mr ginger is updated now but the ranch expansion (marnie and jas ones) isnt. I forgot to update the key.
(This wont fix your problem though)
I don't know specifically why items are changing but adding or renoving some can lead to the order being reshuffled.
naive drum
John its actually a decent amount more coding plus also the updated version thing is based on modders updating their manifest whenever they update the mod, which they don't always remember to do (amusingly lemur posted immediately after you saying that...they forgot to update the manifest on one of their mods resulting a false update alert)
there are some mods that can do auto-updates! it is opt-in and requires an additional mod to make it work
mod auto updater or something
sharp belfry
yep, it exists
fading glen
right but i mean, if the manifest contains enough information to know that the mod is out of date, and somehow my instance of smapi knows that
it feels like setting up that system is 95% of the effort involved in setting up an automatic updating package system you know?
naive drum
not really
dire fractal
It's just looking at the version number on nexus n comparing it to the one in manifest
naive drum
a lot of the work in setting up an automatic update system is having some way of getting an automated process to actually access the site and download the thing
fading glen
ooooh stuff is hosted on nexus, okay yeah
i assumed it was looking at the github /releases page
to get version number
naive drum
nexus lets automated systems ping for version numbers but doesn't let random third-party stuff download things
fading glen
nexus really does not like allowing poeple to use curl to download mods rofl
account tokens and api keys and stuff
right
naive drum
since so many stardew mods are on sites like nexus that need logins to download things SMAPI doesn't include an autodownload feature - but there's a mod called something like mod auto updater that you can install to let you opt-in to automatic updates for some github-hosted mods!
fading glen
that sounds awesome
naive drum
amusingly mod auto updater can be found, amongst other places, on...nexus
fading glen
lol
hmm i wonder how hard it is to use the nexus apis for account verification
like, would it be feasible to write a little SMAPI module that allowed SMAPI to log into your nexus account via the 3rd party utility token system it uses
and grab mods that way
i seem to remember even the little crappy skyrim mod managers that all existed simultaneously way back at the beginning, they could all still manage to use that system, maybe it's really easy
naive drum
i think nexus made it harder, now there's stuff like lots of buttons
and having to go through several pages to get to the actual download page
vortex can do auto download from nexus but it has issues with stardew
fading glen
...or maybe it's even easier than that, i seem to remember one of those skyrim/newvegas mod managers ended up becoming like, a General Mod Manager for Games that Use Nexus, and if you just gave it the path to the mod directory and the executable and everything Just Worked (which it seems like it would, with sdv), then it would work with any arbitrary game
naive drum
vortex, the nexus-official one?
fading glen
i know for a fact skyrim modman can still download from nexus
that really old skyrim mod manager that everybody used after wrye but before NMM
err, mod organizer i think was the newest name
yeah looking at this, i remember making this work like 3 months ago
it gives you some absurdly low daily and hourly http request limit per api token
but it still works iir
iirc*
so the api tokens would have to be per-user, the smapi dev couldn't just use a single api token for smapi
but i think it might work?
idk this makes me wanna dive into the smapi code 😄 sorry for wall of texting
gleaming sphinx
Is your thought process here to use smapi as a mod manager for installing/updating mods?
Cause ❤ that
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
fading glen
@gleaming sphinx yes that's exactly what my thought process is, i mean... when I opened SMAPI one day and saw this: https://i.imgur.com/7WklfJm.png
i thought to myself "holy cow! smapi has mod package functionality! how else could it know that the mod is updatable, if it doesn't have a 'mod package' object which contains such attributes as a hard link to the latest release, a function for checking versions, etc"
gleaming sphinx
Yeah the data is there... links and all for download
fading glen
like, i thought it already was a mod manager lol
fading glen
well it's hard because nexus only allows you to automate mod downloads with a valid nexus account and an API token associated with that account
gleaming sphinx
Feels like an ethics thing
fading glen
which requires that you like, go into the dev panel on your nexus account and create one, and stuff
it's not exactly user friendly
but it's possible!
so i sorta want to do it lol
gleaming sphinx
I mean i think people would gladly set that up
fading glen
but the smapi code is kinda dense
gleaming sphinx
If it came with instruction like "edit this config to include this token found here..." etc
fading glen
yeah i mean it's not that bad, i screenshotted what it looks like for a skyrim mod manager up above
https://i.imgur.com/VriZhCW.png
@fading glen
gleaming sphinx
Yeah that's not bad
fading glen
with smapi it would probably end up being a cli command or a config file
but that's totally doable
gleaming sphinx
And tbh its just one more instance of people just following directions without really knowing what they're doinh
But thats prob most mod users
fading glen
and most of the code is already written! that's why it surprised me that this functionality didn't already exist, the hard part by far is setting up the 'mod' objects so that smapi knows what an individual mod is, what version it has, etc, afaict all you'd need to do is add another attribute to that mod object, the "download link" attribute, and then you'd have to probably use some pre-existing library to set up the nexus connection, i can't imagine that's gonna be much more than a function that looks like, idk, "x = new NexusConnection(api_token, username, hash_of_password); x.getMod(nnnn);"
seems doable!
im worried the fact that it isn't already done, means that actually it's way harder than that lol
gleaming sphinx
Tbh i think its partly just an ethics thing
They wanted people to go to nexus to the mod creators page
🤷♂️
You think there's gonna be pre-existing functions to do this even tho its a feature that's not implemented?
Prob better off in #making-mods-general they're the brains
fading glen
uh, i mean
i think that someone, somewhere, will have made an open source mod manager that has nexus functionality, in the same programming language that smapi is written in
like, the very fact that nexus calls it an API token makes me think there's probably some libraries or tools
you don't take the effort to build an API without like... building the access interface
astral flower
royal arrow
@fading glen I only skimmed the conversation, so apologies if this has already been brought up, but nexus has auto updates as a feature for premium members (it's something called Wabbajack, which can be used for free, but without auto updates), so that's also a factor. Implementing it for free would be an issue because nexus already provides that functionality for people who pay for premium
fading glen
but... but nexus also provides that functionality for people who do not pay for premium
i mean, i haven't like... been paying attention to nexus very much recently, it's been a long long time since i did skyrim modding
but like 3 weeks ago i wanted to replay skyrim, and i dug up my old copy of modorganizer (which is totally NOT the current best skyrim mod manager anymore but i already had a profile all set up)
and it has nexus integration, if you look at the white dialog box screenshot i posted it shows you the config page
i had to reset my password but once i typed it in again
i was able to hit the "update all mods" button and it just worked
maybe that's like, they allow it for skyrim but not other games?
either way it feels like something that should be investigated
maybe if you generated an API key a very long time ago, that API key still works, like maybe they forgot to remove old functionality
once they came out with their premium service
but when I look at modorg's log, it's clearly just running "curl http://nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/xxxxxxx/downloadapi.php?myapikey
royal arrow
Here's some the previous discussion about it, so you can take a look https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/678284714829807636/731630560698564719
as a side note, we recommend keeping your points to 1-2 messages, even if they're paragraphs, rather than having lots of little messages like that, because it triggers slowmode 
fading glen
ahh yeah sorry i come from the land of IRC and tend to use the enter key as punctuation
royal arrow
all good! There's also this, but I'm having a hard time finding the discussion around what the issue was, but I know it's in the chat somewhere 
https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/732289742800158722
AHA, found the thread I was thinking of! ends with the message from mana saying "SMAPI doesn't have hooks" https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/678284714829807636/746867994784694382
went over 400 without even noticing 👀 huhu~
heavy sail
Ok, uh, the Mod List mod doesn't wanna work... I type
list_mods csv "C:\Users\Kurochi Komine\Desktop\AkariModList.csv"
And it replies:
[Mod List] Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Users\Kurochi Komine\Desktop\AkariModList.csv'.
Oh wait.... There's a typo.... nevermind
royal arrow
It's been a while since I used it but--oh lol
deep totem
Is the file format CSV?
heavy sail
Yeah
royal arrow
ok, ExnoticTest, if you turn it into an Excel file (or, Google Sheet), it can be nice columns
deep totem
https://support.google.com/docs/answer/40608?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en
You can import it in Sheet and make it tidier I imagine
Detect automatically should work
royal arrow
so it's easier, CSV is comma delimited, so it's challenging to read.
I would have done that using Excel but it's awesome that Google Sheets also has a built-in feature! 😄
Google Sheets has let me down so many times before that I have little faith I:
So this is good on it! lol
deep totem
I hope it will work, I also usually use Excel but if it works in Sheet it'll nice because it seems like Exnotics want to share it online (less steps taken X3)
royal arrow
Right, and not everyone uses Microsoft Office
heavy sail
Ok, that's looks better. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1dtJHJbO_tfwxoy2tMC9Woq7zOyhgaX0RdIoy-hA0PSY/edit?usp=sharing
restive zodiac
@fading glen I only skimmed the conversation, so apologies if this has already been brought up, but nexus has auto updates as a feature for premium members (it's something called Wabbajack, which can be used for free, but without auto updates), so that's also a factor. Implementing it for free would be an issue because nexus already provides that functionality for people who pay for premium
@royal arrow Wabbajack is not affiliated with Nexus at all, and does not exist to solve auto updating, just to clarify. Wabbajack is an automated mod list installer that creates a cloned MO2 mod list based on every step required to create it, including downloading.
You need Nexus premium to automatically download files via the Nexus API, that's all.
royal arrow
Thank you for clarifying, mouse! 
restive zodiac
And yeah Mod Updater will download updates automatically https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6338 but it's opt-in and needs set up a specific way by the author, so only Routine and aedenthorn's mods use it right now, I think. Paradigm was experimenting for her mods, not sure if they're in yet.
deep totem
Mouse: is only C# mod that can be auto-updated with Mod Updater?
heavy sail
So, uh, SMAPI just closed itself... There go my new decorations 
Might check the log...
restive zodiac
@deep totem Nope, but the files to be downloaded for update need to be set up the same way.
(the info on where to get stuff gets set in the manifest, mod updater just looks for that)
deep totem
I should check some examples then :3
royal arrow
ye, my existing mods I don't think I'll need to update, but for future ones, this would be good to implement! O:
heavy sail
Oh my god how big is my log... It froze and won't even parse 
tepid blade
Is there anyway to make my game less laggy with mods as I cant go into the west woods because its so laggy
vital spade
@heavy sail it can sometimes take a while
royal arrow
yea ExnoticTest, you can check the size of the file, if it's HOOG, you can open it, copy from the very top of the log, to what I presume will be the end of the first error, and paste that into log.smapi.io to try to parse it
deep totem
West wood... Is that SVE? Closing other apps might help,,
tepid blade
All the apps are closed and yes its SVE
royal arrow
Try this for SVE:
Set the FTM config MonsterLimitPerLocation to 200 or lower if you're having lag trouble.
tepid blade
What should I set it to
royal arrow
Like the quote says, 200 or lower o.o
heavy sail
https://smapi.io/log/dceb42bd4ea34072b622d2a61bc9e148
600+ errors, yay...
This is what I get for downloading 30 mods in a day
tepid blade
Have you updated the mods it told you to
heavy sail
I have 100 mods to update, most of them edited to my preferences, but the issues seem to come from Scrying Orb crashing, and then everything else started having a meltdown.
tepid blade
The one i think you should mainly update is content patcher
arctic mantle
can someone help me to use mods
tepid blade
Sure
royal arrow
Hi Mr. tophat, we have a getting started guide that covers the process, you can take a look at that, and if you have specific questions, someone here can help https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide
arctic mantle
so im trying to get the mod thing for linux but it takes me to a modo thing and im not sure what to do about it
heavy sail
Wait... removing Scrying Orb fixed it, might as well update CP anyway.
royal arrow
ExnoticTest, you have some errors from CP-A, so I'd recommend updating CP and CP-A to ensure those are compatible and happy with each other
arctic mantle
im trying to get the mods on switch
royal arrow
I'm not sure about what's up with scrying orb though
arctic mantle
and i know its posible
royal arrow
ah, it's not possible to get mods on switch unless you jailbreak, and even then, you can only get XNB mods which directly replace game files
heavy sail
I literally picked it up, threw it away, and then everything crashed.
arctic mantle
oof
restive zodiac
There's also the ever-present possibility of getting banned from Nintendo's services if they discover the jailbreak. With all of that, we can't really encourage or help with jailbreaking devices, but sometimes people come in that have already modded their Switch before and just need some help with getting the files to replace and such, which is a little more in the normal realm of modding...
tepid blade
Thatd what the brick is
The company's put a thing on the console so if you try they lock you out of the console
restive zodiac
I associate bricking with breaking, so by tampering with your device you can accidentally render it entirely inoperable. So for me personally even if the result is the same, bricking is something I did and banning is more external and worth a separate mention 😄
tepid blade
My brother jailbroke his consolr
stray star
Hi friends, does anyone know what might be causing the ONE line of red text that doesn't seem to do anything, but is still really annoying https://smapi.io/log/cab59baad6b14ef5999762056d7c82d9
restive zodiac
I did a few older devices, but I don't have any modern consoles and they're pretty expensive now, so I'd have to be pretty bored to risk it nowadays 😅
Hmm, is it because of the other mods patching the same methods?
This is the associated text under it
at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.MakeGenericMethod(Type[] methodInstantiation)
at System.Reflection.MemberInfoSerializationHolder.GetRealObject(StreamingContext context)
at System.Runtime.Serialization.ObjectManager.ResolveObjectReference(ObjectHolder holder)
at System.Runtime.Serialization.ObjectManager.DoFixups()
at System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Binary.ObjectReader.Deserialize(HeaderHandler handler, __BinaryParser serParser, Boolean fCheck, Boolean isCrossAppDomain, IMethodCallMessage methodCallMessage)
at System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Binary.BinaryFormatter.Deserialize(Stream serializationStream, HeaderHandler handler, Boolean fCheck, Boolean isCrossAppDomain, IMethodCallMessage methodCallMessage)
at System.Runtime.Serialization.Formatters.Binary.BinaryFormatter.Deserialize(Stream serializationStream)
at Harmony.PatchInfoSerialization.Deserialize(Byte[] bytes)
at Harmony.HarmonySharedState.GetPatchInfo(MethodBase method)
at Harmony.PatchProcessor.GetPatchInfo(MethodBase method)
at Harmony.HarmonyInstance.GetPatchInfo(MethodBase method)
at PurrplingCore.Patching.GamePatcher.<GetPatchedMethods>d__5.MoveNext() in C:\Users\Ellen\source\repos\PurrplingMods\PurrplingCore\Patching\GamePatcher.cs:line 36
at PurrplingCore.Patching.GamePatcher.CheckPatches(Boolean hard) in C:\Users\Ellen\source\repos\PurrplingMods\PurrplingCore\Patching\GamePatcher.cs:line 54```Hm, I'm not sure, I think it started when I updated Lucikiels NPC adventure add on
tepid blade
The mods that have to be updated might fix some of it
restive zodiac
Maybe, though most of those look like unrelated content packs. (I am always a proponent of "upgrade everything you can even if you don't think it's relevant", though.) It's simple to test if it's related to the Lucikiel pack by temporarily removing/downgrading it though :)
hollow cypress
I want to update my SVE, am I supposed to delete all the old mod folders in order to update it?
Wont it get rid of my data?
restive zodiac
It won't remove any save data or progress. It will remove any customization or configuring of the mod itself you've done, so if you've edited any of the files you'd want to copy them out and back.
(Whether or not you have to completely delete the old files depends on the version you're currently on now. If you're on the version before the latest update, it should be fine to overwrite, but a clean install is always safe.)
hollow cypress
Even if I wanted, I dont remember if I changed anything, it was months ago. I guess I'll go with the default config and I'll change stuff by the time, if needed
So just uninstalling every mod and downloading the new versions should work, right?
restive zodiac
Just the SVE files specifically.
(But yes, removing every mod and reinstalling all of them would also work, even if it's not needed :) )
hollow cypress
oh yeah, so the [CP], [TMX] and [FTM] folders count as SVE
paper heron
Hello. I have an issue.
https://smapi.io/log/e78afaecdbeb4c65a95601ecf0228731
It says its skipping the install of a mod because the folders are empty. But, there are definitely files in the folders (Eg, Tractor Remodel\models has 8 PNGs in it.)
shut violet
a mod can't work with PNG only, it needs a .json file (or several), is the folder intended to go in another mod folder maybe ?
paper heron
Ah, good point. It seems the remodel mod isn't a mod itself. Who knew the ReadMe would be important? lol
"go to your Mods\TractorMod\assets folder and replace the file tractor.png with the new model image of your choice."
shut violet
yeah sometimes "mods" have special install instruction
vocal belfry
I used to mod stardew valley, but I uninstalled SMAPI. What do I set the launch options to to get it to run again?
royal arrow
When you reinstall SMAPI, it'll tell you 
snow wraith
without smapi, right-click the game in the list on the left side of the library and hit properties. there hit launch options, and just delete the text string
royal arrow
Ohhh I misread, I thought you were trying to mod it again
vocal belfry
Ah, thanks! I though I broke the game for a second
paper heron
Ok, I'm lost. When I load into our co-op game, I get the error messages and my game freezes up but doesn't crash. https://smapi.io/log/b68b3277718442e5b3bebe17bf8d7938
fresh mural
is it fine that every time i start my pc and open smapi it cant load?
but second try it always load
dire fractal
For pnappie's log, should spacecore be getting a negative value here?
11:30:46 TRACE SpaceCore Got experience data!
11:30:46 TRACE SpaceCore -3033697499379938030:
11:30:46 TRACE SpaceCore 5760606841158425722:
@paper heron are you the host for this co-op game, and what season is it in the save?
paper heron
No, not hosting. Spring year 2
dire fractal
Any chance we could also get the log from the host? I'm not sure why it's blowing up offhand, mostly info-gathering for when someone smarter pops by.
paper heron
I got to host to send me their list of mods. There's a few discrepancies so Im seeing if thats it.
dire fractal
Good starting point, definitely.
sturdy locust
Good starting point, definitely.
@dire fractal I'm the host for pnappie. She was missing a child-to-npc mod that I have. Which wasn't an issue until now since no one had babies until just now lol
dire fractal
Oh funny!
royal arrow
is it fine that every time i start my pc and open smapi it cant load?
but second try it always load
@fresh mural does it give a specific error? When it happens, you could get your log and share it here, so we can take a look. Without that, we'd be guessing o.o
fresh mural
no it just show 3 lines
the bottom line is start loading
and it just does nothing
then i have to close it and reopen
then it will load up in like 5 secs
royal arrow
Ah, there is this thing called Select mode, I'm not sure exactly how it gets triggered, but you have to hit Enter for SMAPI to get out of Select mode and keep loading o:
thorny salmon
Hey everyone. I spent yesterday updating all of my mods since coming back after over a year, and I'm getting confused re: Artisan Valley. I was told that PFM replaced CFR more or less, so I uninstalled CFR and now I'm getting some cascading conflicts. Also some SMAPI mods are not working such as Automate and Automatice Gates. If someone has to the time to walk me through resolving this I'd be grateful. https://smapi.io/log/8de52084b83d4c7f876a454e89412cde is my log
fair vessel
Looks like you still have the CFR version of Artisan Valley
Remove that and get the PFM version, it should fix the errors at the top
(There's a conversion guide you should follow if you have any existing saves you still want to play on that used the CFR version)
fair vessel
I can't see anything about Automate or Automatic gates? They don't seem to be installed
fair vessel
Are they in your Mods folder?
thorny salmon
Yup.
fair vessel
🤔
thorny salmon
oh neato ModDrop lets me change versions on the fly, so I can easily reinstall the PPJA version, but now I'm going to check the other mods too
fair vessel
Are they inside the folder for another mod, i.e. a folder that already has a manifest.json in it?
thorny salmon
...omg the folders are empty for some reason. like the folders themselves are THERE and moddrop shows the thumbnail, but there's no data inside. aybe the downloads got corrupted? ah well i'll reinstall them and then make sure the actual files are there
might have to do a manual zip through all the folders to make sure the mods actually exist rotfl
the only thing i can think of is that alphabetically those two are the first mods i had that i imported to moddrop, so it's possible i goofed something up since it was my first time using moddrop
fathom timber
Has anyone used Instant Build on a Barn and then the pigs won't come out friom that barn?
it looks like the door is bugged ouit
fair vessel
Are there any placed objects near the door on the inside or outside?
thorny salmon
ughhhhh error loop now. so big i can't even post the smapi log
royal arrow
when that happens, we recommend opening up the log, copying from the very top of the log to the end of the first error, and then pasting that to the log.smapi.io site
oak solar
heya ho
fair vessel
(or the first couple errors if they are different and not just the same error repeating a bajilion times)
oak solar
sorry to interupt but do you know if there is a mod that lets multiple people start the save on a multiplayer world?
instead of having just one owner
royal arrow
No worries about interrupting! We're used to multiple conversations here
Idk if there is a way to have more than 1 host though o:
fair vessel
No. The best is something like Always On Server for Multiplayer mod (which automates the host player so that you can run the host game from a virtual machine and all human players are farmhands)
oak solar
but does time stop if everyone is offline with that?
fair vessel
Not sure, you'd have to check
There are also scripts people have written that modify a savefile to switch a farmhand and host. Those are buggy still and not meant to be used on a regular basis, more of a one time thing to switch ownership of a save file.
thorny salmon
updated log! https://smapi.io/log/7f50f5dda9cb49b9bec99d4b822a2936
i think it's something to do with custom crafting stations and the ccs kitchen station since it happens when i try to cook but idk
fair vessel
Something is still weird with [JA] Artisan Valley Machine Goods
robust holly
So my game keeps losing things placed in non-vanilla buildings. Both the fippsie's birdhouse and the shed thing in the farm SVE gives you. This makes me think it's problem with either TMXL Map Toolkit or PYTK. But nobody has reported it as a bug except mentioning it on the birdhouse. And the errors in my log aren't new, and don't seem to be related. .-.
fair vessel
It's not getting loaded, as if the manifest is missing from the folder. And then smapi is trying to add one of its deep subfolders but failing
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
robust holly
https://smapi.io/log/e46df74fef574505a1de80e157459ffa I'm fixing what it recommends, but it's unlikely those were the cause. The birdhouse has lost stuff since before I even downloaded half those mods.
thorny salmon
It's not getting loaded, as if the manifest is missing from the folder. And then smapi is trying to add one of its deep subfolders but failing
@fair vessel mannnnn this is such a headache lol. cursed mod xD
royal arrow
The alternative recommended for Quality Products works btw, so highly recommend that.
The greenhouse one seems significant
fair vessel
what sort of objects have gone missing? furniture, decor, machines, chests? modded or non-modded?
robust holly
Modded plants and beehouses, vanilla pots and plants from the birdhouse. an automated winery with casks and normal kegs in the shed.
fair vessel
Do they disappear soon after placing them? Several days later? After closing and reopening the game?
robust holly
The plants were one thing, but my sweet, precious wine.... ;~;
thorny salmon
well apparently that part of the mod is obsolete so it may have been leftover from my previous mod loadout.
robust holly
After closing and opening. It would stay over days
the greenhouse is already fixed.
thorny salmon
lol:
"Make sure to delete pre-existing folders. DO NOT SIMPLY OVERWRITE."
me: HERP DERP DERP DERP DOES THE OPPOSITE
no wonder
quietly deletes pre-existing folders.
fair vessel
@robust holly had you changed or updated any mods in-between closing the game and re-opening to find they were gone?
thorny salmon
there is something so weirdly satisfying when errors are resolved each time you run smapi lol. thoug idk if this will fix my kitchen error loop WE SHALL SEEEEE
robust holly
More than likely. I know I updated PYTK.
I'm going to try and see if it will keep stuff after closing the game if I don't screw with it. The game takes forever to load. That's what I get for downloading every shiny mod I see.
thorny salmon
WHOA that fixed the error
~~MAGICAL~~
my house is feckng ugly now bc my furniture isn't all replaced oops guess that's another project
but for now... i think my game is stable enough to play and FINALLY see the new content ❤️
thanks for the help everyone i'm sure i'll be back before long bc i broke it again
also is there a mod to replace kisekae so i can change my farmer's clothes etc
bc kisekae be broke
royal arrow
You can use Get Glam, it's a remake of Kisekae
royal arrow
I personally use Customize Anywhere because I wanted to also freely change my hair and such (and Customize Anywhere only works for vanilla stuff), but I believe there is a vanilla way to do this as well
deep totem
The wizard thingy? It requires fee and not as instant
royal arrow
Yea I've seen something about it in dialog files >_>
But, I come from Bethesda gaming where I could pop in a console command to change my appearance at any time, so Customize Anywhere works for me 😆
robust holly
So I just fixed all of the errors and my wine came back. Still no real idea what caused it. ._.
gray remnant
Is there already a mod for modifying the letter you get from the clinic
royal arrow
Joja letter fix on nexus
royal arrow
Check the mod description and screenshots, you'll see how they edited it. You might be able to further tweak it if you like
gray remnant
Ahh thanks for the help!
royal arrow
You're welcome!
gray remnant
It's compatible with the latest cp and smapi, right? I seem to be only getting harvey's message saying someone dropped me off
royal arrow
Per the mod description, "Joja letter fix" is specifically for changing the letter that says a Joja employee found you. If that's not the letter you're trying to change, then that's why you're still seeing the same letter
royal arrow
Yea that's a different mod you're trying to make at that point, and people in #making-mods-general could provide more guidance
gray remnant
Oh yeah, you're right asksdjdkf
royal arrow
You'd have to find where in the game files Harvey's letter is
Then set up a CP patch for that
royal arrow
You're welcome!
compact elbow
i dont know why the mods arent working
native dragonBOT
@compact elbow Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
boreal cradle
Hello, again, lol. Can't seem to keep me away 😆
rugged berry
Hey, folks. You mind taking a look at my crash log? Pretty sure it's something to do with SDV-E and TMXL Toolkit.
gray field
Pytk has an update and I'm not sure how to update it
boreal cradle
https://smapi.io/log/620a21ca16b24b728ec8b4a00d82606e | I've been having major lag (been doing mutliplayer) and just today downloaded PFMAutomate. I also have Automate itself and didn't have any lag before downloading PFMAutomate. Any suggestions? I've unintalled PFM and it does fix the lag but I was hoping to have both.
compact elbow
its not letting me drag
boreal cradle
Dang D:
ashen elbow
welp @rugged berry your log shows that your sve config is a little bonked up, maybe you put an extra , somewhere
or a "
daring wagon
@gray field it's safest to delete the mod from your mod folder and then download and add any update to your mod folder, but for that one I think you can just replace it.
rugged berry
Cheers Forsy. I’ll look through it!
gray field
@gray field it's safest to delete the mod from your mod folder and then download and add any update to your mod folder, but for that one I think you can just replace it.
@daring wagon so just delete the previous ver and put the new one?
compact elbow
@daring wagon https://smapi.io/log/c299ca63f7ea4f91b76d85cd06ca7a5d
daring wagon
Yep Kovenant
compact elbow
wait how?
ashen elbow
yeah you didnt download any and put them in the mods folder
dire fractal
Have you extracted the files?
rugged berry
If you're on Windows, can you give us a screenshot?
compact elbow
im on mac
ashen elbow
it might be different on mac, but a screenshot would still help
rugged berry
Or that.
visual heron
do i need to download the source code when i download sampi
rugged berry
nah
ashen elbow
uh no?
compact elbow
what do i take a screenshot of
ashen elbow
your mods gfolder
rugged berry
Your mods folder.
compact elbow
ok
ashen elbow
with the file path
boreal cradle
Dang lol. Yeah I just loaded into a single player load and I think it's just PFMAutomate itself? That's unfortunate 😫 Ah well, back to doing things by hand Scandalized gasp
❤️ Thank you for taking a look guys.
ashen elbow
lol it's always the commas
boreal cradle
Dang commas
ashen elbow
i was doing ctrl + f to lookup something, and pressed shift + f and fucked up the code
gray field
Oh shoot wrong ping
rugged berry
i have done that before in doing html junk more often than i'd like to admit
gray field
Yep Kovenant
@daring wagon thanks!
dire fractal
is there a mod to make your farms ground not dirt but grass?
ashen elbow
uh not unless you edit the map yourself
and then you would have to make the grass tillable
rugged berry
i do think the "witchy crystal farm" is lovely for that end but it's a custom map
compact elbow
i know its a mess but dont judge me
dire fractal
Sve's ifvr2 has tillable grass patches on the farm map, but I don't know of any recolours that recolour the dirt to grass
daring wagon
@dire fractal Some map mods write that in-SVE's IF2R for example has a config where you can choose that
visual heron
do i need to download the source code when i download sampi, i am on android
dire fractal
No
boreal cradle
Brother, I love your profile pic 👀
ashen elbow
owo
compact elbow
but how does my mod folder look
daring wagon
need the filepath visible
ashen elbow
we need to be able to see the file path
compact elbow
whats that
visual heron
and how do i add mods on android
compact elbow
i know i dumb
gray field
and how do i add mods on android
@visual heron find mods in nexus
dire fractal
compact elbow
is this better?
ashen elbow
the filepath would be this
C:\Users\Me\Downloads\games\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Content\Characters
well
that's one way to show a file path
daring wagon
that works
ashen elbow
but according to your log, the mods aren't loading in
compact elbow
so what do i do?
daring wagon
I am looking at it still, but don't play with mods on my mac so not seeing immediately what's wrong. It does look like you have the stuff in the right place.
That doesn't look like all the mods you need for SVE-should have more than that in your folder
compact elbow
maybe smapi isnt installed correctly?
daring wagon
The fact that you were able to get a log I think means you have SMAPI
compact elbow
oh ok
dire fractal
I think your mods are not installed correctly
compact elbow
so should i just start of fresh
dire fractal
Have you checked all required mods that SVE needs to run?
If you don't have the required mods it will not load
compact elbow
i will re check
daring wagon
compact elbow
its telling me this
dire fractal
Go to description
daring wagon
Ahh, that is for people who already had everything else installed
dire fractal
Then click on requirements tab
You are missing content patcher, tmx loader, pytk, spacecore, and farm type manager
That is why smapi isn't loading your mods, because they require framework mods to work/load
compact elbow
You are missing content patcher, tmx loader, pytk, spacecore, and farm type manager
@dire fractal i have them just accidentally put them in another folder
lemme fix it
dire fractal
Idk why it doesn't report on Mac, but on Windows smapi tells you what mods you are missing to run another one that needs it
restive zodiac
@compact elbow If you've verified your content files at any point, you'll need to reinstall SMAPI. It looks like it hasn't been started in some time, so I'd try that and then get a new log.
compact elbow
ok will do
restive zodiac
(The log is from 2020-08-31. Installing SMAPI replaces the game's startup script on Mac/Linux, so when Steam verifies files it resets that to the original and SMAPI stops running until reinstall.)
dire fractal
Do it the same way you first installed smapi
Open smapi installer n choose install, it'll delete all the old folders n install again
compact elbow
ok i did it
dire fractal
Okay now once you moved all the missing mods to the mods folder you should be able to run Stardew n it'll load SVE
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
Okay you should update the mods first
compact elbow
how?
dire fractal
Go to nexus mods, search for the mod name, and download the latest version
Then delete the old version in your mods folder and move the newly downloaded version into your mods folder
compact elbow
oke
dire fractal
For smapi just download the new version n then choose install it'll remove the old version by itself
compact elbow
i already did that
dire fractal
Yes but you need to download the new version of smapi
Not reinstalling your current version
If you open your logs n click on the mods that need updating it will send you to where you can get the updated version for each mod
dire fractal
I'm not sure but the latest one can be downloaded here https://smapi.io/ (3.6.2)
compact elbow
thanks
tired apex
Looks fine!
tired apex
The only thing I personally am not sure on is the antisocial part within the debug however I havent used SVE myself
Everything else looks great!
compact elbow
THANKS SO MUCH
tired apex
Of course!
compact elbow
i feel like i wanna cry of happiness
tired apex
Once you get the hang of it its really rewarding
compact elbow
yeah its easy im just dumb
dire fractal
Antisocial thing is normal for SVE
SVE has its own version of the mod antisocial npc and that message is just saying its launching with that version, if you had the regular antisocial npc mod SVE will adjust accordingly so that's why the message is there
tired apex
Thank you, Neeft
dire fractal
Yeah I was worried if it was working for inaki after so long haha 😅
tired apex
Ye that yellow text at the top isn't much to worry about in my experience
compact elbow
TY
compact elbow
oke one last thing
which farm type enabled the mod?
the sve
like the map changes
daring wagon
You can play SVE itself with any farm type. If you want the special farm that's in the SVE screenshots, you need to download that also (it's called IF2R, separate download on the same page as SVE) and pick standard farm.
dire fractal
In SVE's nexus mod page, go to download tab, and scroll down to "other downloads" or something like that, it'll be called Immersive Farm 2 Redux, and then install it like a normal mod
compact elbow
ok thanks
dire fractal
It is directly below the SVE download
royal arrow
it's called Files, but it's where the downloads are 
compact elbow
thanks so much
if i were rich i would gift all of you who helped me nitro
but sadly im not
rich
dire fractal
Lol no problem the main heros are the mod creators n concernedape for making the game easy for mods
compact elbow
yeah true heros
where do i set which farm i want as the special one?
There is no config file
i know im like a toddler who needs help with litterally everything
compact elbow
ohh ok thanks
dire fractal
The configs for each mod will be created once you start the game (to the title page)
compact elbow
oh ok
dire fractal
Also you need to start a new save (with standard farm) for your new custom farm to load
dire fractal
And if you change the configs you will need to relaunch the game again cause mods (with their settings) are loaded on game launch, but that should be all :)!
tepid blade
I changed the moster spawn thing in farm type and now my game is lagging so bad i cant even play it
dire fractal
I'd just delete farm type manager n get a new version of it but I only use ftm as a loader for ftm content packs
So maybe a modder can help you do what you wanted with ftm
boreal cradle
This might not be the best spot to ask, but I was wondering if SVE has a dedicated discord channel?
dire fractal
They have a subreddit, not sure about discord
rare quest
I might make one at some point... but I really don't have the time to manage one. 
boreal cradle
Ooo, yeah I wondered about that. No worries Flash ❤️
tepid blade
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
dire fractal
Are you loading a current save?
It might be because the old save was messed up with the bugged ftm, n you need to start a new one or maybe some mods aren't compatible with Android
tepid blade
Bro i hope I dont have to restart my save
Nope its something else cause it did the same with my other save
royal arrow
the stardew fair checker is amazing! I'm using Chests Anywhere and the site actually uses the name of the chests from Chests Anywhere! :D
https://mouseypounds.github.io/stardew-fair-helper/
tepid blade
What should i do?
fair vessel
I changed the moster spawn thing in farm type and now my game is lagging so bad i cant even play it
@tepid blade what did you change here exactly?
tepid blade
It was ten so i set to 5 and when that didnt work i set it back to 10. And it crashed so i deleted farm type and got a new one and now it just crashes
shrewd gate
Oh my goodness, that’s going on my to download list, that looks awesome!
fair vessel
🤔
(Stardew Fair Helper is not a mod to download, it's a web app)
(Unless you mean Chests Anywhere)
@tepid blade at what point does the crash happen?
tepid blade
When its loading the file
fair vessel
Your log doesn't show any crash-related errors or hints, so it's hard to know what the problem is
tepid blade
It goes to the title and everything but when i gpt to load the file it just crashes
tepid blade
Yep
fair vessel
What does it currently have for MonsterLimitPerLocation?
tepid blade
10
fair vessel
Did you change that after reinstalling FTM? The default is null, and 10 is very low
tepid blade
Wait what should it be set to
fair vessel
When you reinstalled the mod, it should have reverted to the default setting of null. I'm wondering if you didn't properly uninstall the mod before reinstalling.
tepid blade
It was like that when I first got the mod
fair vessel
Very strange. Can you show a screenshot?
tepid blade
fair vessel
Oh I see, never mind. Looking at the FTM code now, it looks like they added a new default for Android devices only.
(So on all other platforms it defaults to null, but on Android it defaults to 10 now which is very low)
If you're lagging with that setting already at 10, making it any lower probably won't help anyway.
So, just to recap
You had it working before (but with lag) at 10,
Changed to 5, didn't help
And now changed back to 10, but it crashes?
How much RAM does your phone have anyway?
tepid blade
4 gigs
fair vessel
😐 that should be fine...
Do you get any problems when creating and then loading a new save file, or is is just existing saves that crash?
Also is there a Mods/FarmTypeManager/data folder?
fair vessel
Try... deleting the data folder.
(Actually, don't delete it, just cut and paste it to somewhere else on your phone in case it breaks it worse and you need to put it back.)
fair vessel
Still no idea
Have you tried making a new save yet and seeing if it breaks also on new saves?
tepid blade
Tried that it still crashed
fair vessel
Can you share the log from the crash?
royal arrow
I was down in the mines, mining and getting attacked by bats and stuff, when suddenly the game froze for a moment, my farmer became invisible, and then the game continued. I looked in my log and saw this error from stardew notification (looks like it was about a birthday reminder, it was Sandy's birthday, fall 15). Not sure what was up, I guess it's something to report to the mod author?
https://smapi.io/log/d1b40f756c8d46d1bfcf615139e709a9
naive drum
Enderdragon, is that the log from the crash?
tepid blade
Yes
fair vessel
That's the same log you shared before. I'm wondering about a new one when creating a new save file
tepid blade
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
late nebula
Has anyone else had issues downloading mods from Nexus using Firefox today or is it just me?
tired apex
I've been doin fine
tired apex
Good to see another Firefox lover though 🦊
late nebula
I do love it, but I've had to use Chrome mostly today cause of this and it's driving me nuts.
sharp belfry
Praise Opera
royal arrow
I used to be a big Firefox fan, but now I'm all about Brave. It's got a built-in adblocker and tracker blocker, it's great 
late nebula
I used Brave for a while but it was super broken back then.
sharp belfry
I used to be a big Firefox fan, but now I'm all about Brave. It's got a built-in adblocker and tracker blocker, it's great :aSDVemoteowo:
@royal arrow hell yeah, this is the same reason I love opera :D
late nebula
May end up giving it another try one day.
I think Firefox has those built it too now maybe. I know the mobile version does.
Anyways....
boots up Chrome again and cries
sharp belfry
Also opera gx just looks fuckin cool
royal arrow
yea I tried out Opera on my phone but they added so much garbage to the phone app that I said "NO 
" and never looked back~
sharp belfry
On phone I use Ecosia
tepid blade
So put the new log up is it bad or no
pine ledge
So put the new log up is it bad or no
@tepid blade Is what bad?
pine ledge
Ah. Android. If I had to guess, it can't handle SVE
There's nothing inherently wrong with that log. Nothing that points to an issue. But Android is... far more limited in how much you can mod it than PC is.
dire fractal
I once loaded 500 mods on my Samsung and somehow was disappointed it was playing at 30fps n decided its unplayable
fair vessel
There is nothing in it to do with FarmTypeManager stuff
The crash seems entirely unrelated to FTM
tepid blade
And its not the files hmmm my game is being special
tawdry blade
Quick question
Where is the list for all the mods that I need to be able to play Stardew Valley extended
royal arrow
Is the fishing game for the Fair occasionally bugged by any chance? I just tried it, first thing I caught was trash, and now I'm not able to cast a line to catch any other things D:
tawdry blade
Theres so many lists I cant find the right one
royal arrow
Bartech55, on the mod description for SVE, there's an installation guide that has them all listed
gentle glen
can someone help me with Aurora Vineyard i don't have the tile that suspose be in the small room
tepid blade
So what am i supposed to do
royal arrow
pro-tip: don't accidentally call up the Reset Terrain Features menu while in the fishing minigame for the Fair, you may get stuck and be unable to close it, and warp commands didn't get me out of there either, even though time's up on the minigame I:
@tepid blade based on what others have said, test a new save without SVE and its related mods, and see if that works ok. If it does work ok, then unfortunately your device isn't able to run SVE :/
tepid blade
Nope it got a little farther then it froze then crashed
Thing is it worked before why would it suddenly crash
royal arrow
That is strange. Did anything with your phone change? Like, do you have significantly less storage space, or anything like that?
Like Jonqora, I'm stumped
tepid blade
No nothings changed
tawdry blade
Whats the command or something to take a log of error code with smapi
and like send it
Cus for some reasons my mods wont work
royal arrow
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
restive zodiac
Can you give an example of something that isn't working?
tawdry blade
How so?
When I start the game, none of the mod content is there
is just the vanilla stuff
restive zodiac
You said your mods won't work. What do you expect to see that isn't there?
Okay, like what?
Are you expecting the farm to be different, for example?
tawdry blade
Well, I downloaded all the respective mods for SDVE
yes
Like the biggest test is to press m for map
and I see the vanilla map
as opposed to the map on the SDVE Nexus website
Which shows it to be completely different if I followed the steps correctly
restive zodiac
SVE does not edit the farm unless you download the optional Immersive Farm 2 Remastered. The world map is provided by NPC Map Locations for SVE.
Your mods seem to be working fine, you just don't have those specific things installed.
restive zodiac
The SVE version of NPC Map Locations here https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/239?tab=files
And IF2R is a download on the SVE page.
It is not a separate mod page, just a separate download.
royal arrow
(yea as a "by the by," including your log is great, but you should also include a description of what your issue is, like mouse asked, to help us help you )
tawdry blade
Ah okay, sorry didnt know
tepid blade
Ok it loaded but as soon as it loaded the file all the way it crashed
tawdry blade
I just thought by sending the error code
You guys would know right away!
Like to know what to look for, etc
royal arrow
nah, sometimes the issue isn't obvious without the context, so that's why it helps to provide it, so we can put 2 and 2 together
restive zodiac
@tepid blade Sorry, which step was this on? Was this the "trying new save without SVE" phase or a different one?
gentle glen
Can someone help me figure out why i don't have a golden tile aurora vineyard the small room or did i miss something ???
tepid blade
No I already did that and it crashed but i tried it again and it got farther then it just crashed again
tawdry blade
Huh
Alright, so. This is my log. https://smapi.io/log/68f313e9edd14546bcf07a06f2724364. I downloaded the Immersive Farm 2 and NPC locations mods as per stated. However, when I press m for map I get this. As opposed to the map for the proper way it should look located on the SDVE Nexus page which looks like this.
It's getting there, but not quite
restive zodiac
@tawdry blade You didn't download the SVE version of NPC Map Locations. Make sure you get the one that says NPC Map Locations for Stardew Valley Expanded.
There are two main files on this page https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/239?tab=files and you need the bottom one, hehe
@tepid blade Do you have the log from trying a new save without SVE installed?
restive zodiac
That looks like it still has SVE installed.
faint jacinth
so i have sve and npc locator and my remastered immersive farm 2 is not showing and its still the default farm any tips?
restive zodiac
!patchsummary Kahoonies#3108
native dragonBOT
Can you do these steps to provide more info?
- Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
- Type
patch summarydirectly into the SMAPI window and press enter. - Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
- Post the log link here.
restive zodiac
Oops. Oh well.
tawdry blade
Hurray! So everything works for me when I load the game through Smapi
However, me and my friend want to play multiplayer
So when I join him
He has the SDVE map and everything, but I have vanilla
royal arrow
Do you both have the same mods?
restive zodiac
@tawdry blade You always need to start the game through SMAPI. Make sure you've configured Steam to launch SMAPI via launch options.
tawdry blade
How does one go about doing that?
restive zodiac
See Part 2: configure Steam at this page https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Windows#Option_A:_use_SMAPI.27s_installer
tawdry blade
Ah ty
deep totem
Is there like a list of handy quote somewhere?
royal arrow
I have a quote of quotes, but that particular link is one you can get to from the pins first
.quote 5033, in case you're interested
deep totem
thank you!!
royal arrow
I guess we could make a quote for the getting started guide 😄
royal arrow
@deep totem, in case you're interested, I just made a quote for the getting started guide, it's .quote 5049, and I updated the quote of quotes, .quote 5033, to include the quote for the getting started guide
deep totem
That'll be useful for me that keep forgetting stuff. Thanks for keeping it neat lenne
royal arrow
You're welcome! I know we have stuff we reference often. By the by, do you prefer itsbenter or Ben o: ?
faint jacinth
i was able to fix it thanks mouse
tepid blade
Does anyone know what's the newest version of smapi for android
tawdry blade
Sigh
Well I got it to work for single player
Multiplayer wont work
Because it doesnt give a cabin right away?
For the SDVE farm
naive drum
Go to robin, buy cabin
tawdry blade
We we're hoping to have a cabin right away, like vanilla does for multiplayer
I think the only way to get a cabin right away on SDVE would be to cheat in some money and buy it from robin right away
Alas
royal arrow
They cost very few resources and money though?
Alternatively, if you start a new game entirely for MP, I think you should be able to pick the amount of players and the cabins will be placed as well?
tawdry blade
I loaded a new file with the SDVE stuff and hosted
and gave friend the invite code
and when he tried to join it said "no cabins" etc
deep totem
Both is fine, itsbenter I think?
royal arrow
Oki cool, good to know~
restive zodiac
@tepid blade This page https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Installing_SMAPI_on_Android#ZaneYork.27s_port has the link to the releases page for Android SMAPI.
(If you don't get an answer and think your question was missed, feel free to ask again, but please don't ask in multiple channels just for coverage!)
tepid blade
Ughh smapi did need to be updated but it still crashes. This is annoying
pine ledge
I loaded a new file with the SDVE stuff and hosted
@tawdry blade Common issue. You can only choose the 'nearby cabins' option for it to work.
restive zodiac
@rare quest ^ are you aware of this one, by the way? (only close cabin layout for IF2R, no layout for spread)
rare quest
I was not. I’ll look into it.
gentle glen
Can someone help me figure out why i'm missing the golden title in Aurora Vineyard ,
tepid blade
So how am i supposed to use mods 😞
tepid blade
Is there anyway to see what my problem is?
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
lapis void
i don't see a crash in that log?
tepid blade
Thats the thing the other modders cant tell what wrong either
lapis void
21:49:59 TRACE Farm Type Manager Starting monster generation for this file: FarmTypeManager/data/Ghost_241405314.json
21:49:59 TRACE Farm Type Manager Monster generation is disabled for this file.
21:49:59 TRACE Farm Type Manager All files and content packs checked. Monster generation process complete.
21:49:59 TRACE Farm Type Manager Spawning objects set to appear at time: 600...```this is the last thing on the trace before the log ends
i know there's a special config for FTM on android to stop monster spawns from overloading your game
tepid blade
Is FTM good though cause when i changed the monster limit itt started crashing but i mean i set it back to normal and it still crashes
lapis void
what did you set the monster limit to?
gentle glen
Can someone help me figure out why i'm missing the golden title in Aurora Vineyard ,
deep totem
I am not entirely sure but I think it will be unlocked after seeing an event.
It doesn't just appear the first time u enter the place
Seems like it's more than just event
gentle glen
I did find Abigail lost necklace , and i went to west of the woods and i saw apples when in the Aurora Vineyard
lapis void
!json
native dragonBOT
JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files, often used by Stardew Valley mods. If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to https://smapi.io/json, view an automatic validation summary on that page, and share the link with others.
lapis void
can you copy your config.json for FTM into that site and share a link?
lapis void
yeah, that all looks right
tepid blade
Im assuming his is a first time this has ever happened
gentle glen
Can someone help me figure out why i'm missing the golden title in Aurora Vineyard , I did find Abigail lost necklace , and i went to west of the woods and i saw apples when in the Aurora Vineyard
tepid blade
Yeah why
fair vessel
What do you mean by safe?
tepid blade
Also jonqora we cant figure out whats wrong with mine sadly
fair vessel
Yeah
You may be able to remove your mods and add them back in a few at a time, testing it on new saves, to narrow down what exactly is the cause of the crashing
I'm still not certain whether it is FTM or not, the initial crashes starting then could potentially have been a coincidence.
You can disable any mod by renaming its folder to start with a period
dire fractal
why is that?
restive zodiac
Why is which?
pastel arch
Well, it's a long story. To start from the beginning, there was a large explosion, and then the universe began...
restive zodiac
Can someone help me figure out why i'm missing the golden title in Aurora Vineyard , I did find Abigail lost necklace , and i went to west of the woods and i saw apples when in the Aurora Vineyard
@gentle glen itsbenter linked you to a comment explaining that it isn't accessible until after a number of in-game days have passed.
Looks like you need to have played for at least 138 days, completed the CC, and entered the Lost Woods. Have you done all those?
real sage
is there a way to get rid of cats and dogs and spawn in a fresh singular one?
gentle glen
@restive zodiac i'm on year 15 in game
restive zodiac
Normally there is only one. Are you using Adopt n Skin or a different mod?
real sage
I was using adopt n skin, but since i play in multiplayer, i had to remove it. Removing the mod left my animals, so i tried deleting all but one dog and one cat, but one dog's data was corrupted by petinteraction and I couldnt delete it
so ive got adopt n skin out, and i have two dogs, two horses, and one cat lmao
cat wont take a texture either for some reason
horse was due to a duplication bug
its also now permanently trapped in the mine because its too fat to leave, which i honestly find hilarious rather than problematic, since idid have a little decorative horse stop inside the entry cave
gentle glen
@restive zodiac I'm in year 15 and 3 of winter
real sage
restive zodiac
If you still had A&S you could use the sell command on different animals, not sure if there's one to get rid of everything at once. There's a vanilla command for the horses, killallhorses
real sage
the sell command didnt work on the corrupted dog
restive zodiac
@gentle glen I'm really not familiar with the specifics of how it is supposed to work. You could try asking FlashShifter#9962 directly (please provide a patch summary, instructions below, to make it clear what all conditions you've met), or posting on the SVE subreddit.
!patchsummary
native dragonBOT
Can you do these steps to provide more info?
- Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
- Type
patch summarydirectly into the SMAPI window and press enter. - Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
- Post the log link here.
gentle glen
i don't have any yellow of red text at all
restive zodiac
@gentle glen Logs are valuable, important sources of information and are not just asked for to search for red text.
gentle glen
@restive zodiac here go https://smapi.io/log/cc1fb8a87c2b4fab9668ff8d5a9bdcdf
fickle siren
Could anyone help me get to the bottom of an issue I'm having? I have Eemie's recoloured maps, SVE (up to date so no karmylla mod in there) and some other overlay mods but for some reason my game won't load the summer outdoor tilesheets. Every other season is fine though? It doesn't crash as some other people posted, it just seems to load the vanilla colours when I try debug season summer. Haven't tried loading into summer naturally though so maybe it would crash.
restive zodiac
Try searching your Mods folder for summer_outdoorsTileSheet.png. If you find any copies of it in a map mod (vs a recolor which is intentionally loading/editing that file), it might be there by accident.
real sage
ok the unlimited pets mod doesnt appear to work at all
outer turret
Its really old
restive zodiac
Yeah it's broken on compat page https://smapi.io/mods/#Unlimited_Cats_and_Dogs
Guess you could just edit them out of the save
fickle siren
Try searching your Mods folder for
summer_outdoorsTileSheet.png. If you find any copies of it in a map mod (vs a recolor which is intentionally loading/editing that file), it might be there by accident.
@restive zodiac
There doesn't seem to be any copies of it in any map mods, and the other copies that are there to recolour I've tried removing so that there's only one and it still loads the vanilla tilesheet. So confused what's causing it
restive zodiac
Oh, I just noticed you were only using console commands to change it. In that case first try patch update in the SMAPI console just to make sure the season change is registered.
Is it a specific location, or all maps? patch export Maps/summer_outdoorsTileSheet will drop your final patched summer sheet into a patch exports folder in your game folder, so you could check that and see if it matches what you see in game or what you expect to see but don't
fickle siren
patch update seems to fix it but only for that window session?
It's effecting all maps
toxic notch
My friend is playing on Mac laptop, and when they talk to an NPC they can't exit the chat without clicking. I was told in support there wasn't a way to in game to change that and to ask here if there is a mod for that? ^^
tulip steeple
Not a fan of asking but uh... anyone have the most recent version of Custom Farming Redux? I can't seem to find the most recent version anywhere
naive drum
@torn mason Is Custom Crafting stations waiting on a bugfix for release, or can I poke around and see if I can compile the current version for my own use without breaking my game?
Half my kitchen is custom crafting stations and they currently don't work properly (can't access fridge)
Zek, you can look on the uhh
!modcompat
okay that's not the command
tulip steeple
Well dang
tulip steeple
I looked there, but it doesn't have a link to the most recent version, which is 2.12.19
naive drum
very few mods still use Custom Farming Redux and the unofficial update is buggy; most mods use Producer Framework Mod instead
naive drum
If you have mods that still use it and they don't have any PFM updates then the unofficial update will let you keep using them
but it has issues - i think things like to turn into weeds for some reason?
tulip steeple
So... yes I do have to still update it???
naive drum
what mod are you using that needs it?
tulip steeple
I have no clue, all I know is that the launcher told me that I need to update CFR
Hang on I think
Lemme see if I can check
naive drum
!log
native dragonBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
naive drum
would be simpler + might have update link
tulip steeple
Yeah I looked, and I don't see an errorlog folder
Like I went down the actual path physically and it's just
Not there
naive drum
no errorlogs folder here?
tulip steeple
I didn't see the 3 files above Saves
naive drum
FeTK is a mod-added folder, but both DisconnectLogs and ErrorLogs should be there if you have ever launched SMAPI on that user
tulip steeple
I have before, quite a few times
naive drum
is there any smapi-latest file on your computer at all?
because that sounds like it's possibly been dropped in the quarantine zone
tulip steeple
The wha???
naive drum
overzealous antivirus
i have been playing a bunch of rat sending simulator which calls most places 'the [x] zone'
tulip steeple
A. Ah, I see
and B. I managed to grab a clip of the mods I still have to update
B-1: Also I'm just... blind and the update for CFR is actually 2.12.10-1, I misread the tiny font
tulip steeple
Well uh
Here's what I have yet to update, and I've already updated: Artisan Valley, Artisanal Soda Makers, Content Patcher, and Shaved Ice & Frozen Treats
naive drum
oh wow that's a lot
tulip steeple
Some of those are only there because of dependencies
naive drum
anyways the reason why i wanted to see your log was because it has a section with content packs all nicely sorted by their dependencies
so i wanted to have a look and see if you had any mods that actually depended on CFR or if they'd all updated to use PFM instead letting you yeet it out of your mods folder
tulip steeple
?
naive drum
got any automatic cleanup utilities or whatever?
you might have cleaned out appdata since you last had modded stardew open!
tulip steeple
Uuuuh, not that I know of no
tulip steeple
The only other person is my dad, but that's hardly ever and he doesn't mess with any of my game files
naive drum
shrug
it really looks like someone (maybe you, who knows) tried to do some cleanup and cleaned up the error logs out of existence
tulip steeple
I've never touched a cleanup related thing in my life
Anyways uh... I'll assume you'll want the link, right?
naive drum
yeah!
tulip steeple
Should I DM it to you?
naive drum
i can show you where to look on your log for content packs sorted by parent log
link just goes here
naive drum
looks like the only thing you have that currently uses CFR is an old version of artisan valley - you will need the converter mod to get machines to convert properly! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4972
tulip steeple
Ooooooh okay! So then after that, I'd only need PFM, right?
naive drum
yep!
tulip steeple
oooooh okay! Gotcha! Thanks for walking through this with me, as well as being patient
And I guess one last question: Would I still have to get rid of the CFR file I have, or can I just leave it be?
naive drum
you should probably remove it so it doesn't sit there cluttering up the log folder, i think it might have the same internal mod name as the new PFM machines too? for dependencies reasons
tulip steeple
Ah, gotcha
naive drum
anyway see this circled bit? that's the CFR mod with all its installed content packs under it
tulip steeple
Oooooooooooooooooooooh
naive drum
crossed out by mistake is farm type manager and its content pack, and then under that there's JsonAssets and its content packs, and so on
you had no custom cask mod packs installed but artisan valley has a custom cask mod optional file so i assume you installed CCM to prep for installing the artisan valley optional files
tulip steeple
All I know is that one of the mods I was updating the last time I had to update mods required CustomCask, so I just did what I was told
naive drum
fair enough, maybe it added stuff via api or something
tulip steeple
Probably, idk
naive drum
when updating artisan valley make sure you don't have machines in mills or fridges
not sure why you'd try to mill a machine, or put it in the fridge, but any machines in mills or fridges won't be converted by the converter mod
uninstalling CFR turns all the CFR machines into chests with incredibly long names, if you did have a machine in a fridge or mill or some mod-added storage you can just leave the chest it became on the ground somewhere and it'll convert the next morning
tulip steeple
O-Oh
naive drum
the chests aren't dangerous to your save or anything
they're just not the machine you might have spent a lot of resources on
tulip steeple
Oh yeah, so... with the Fresh Meat mod... I don't to put... ALL the folders that's in the update folder into the one I have... right?
naive drum
you delete the old Fresh Meat and install the new one - there's 2 new ones, a stable version and a beta version, pick one or the other but not both
whichever Fresh Meat you choose will need all its folders unless the readme specifies otherwise
tulip steeple
The only ones I see on Nexus is the Beta ones that are at the most recent version