#creative-discussion
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I think I did a pretty good job considering I literally never draw deer
you can probably see at the bottom right his old ref was like
nonsensical
also I know the ribcage makes no sense but this is only my 4th sketch so I'm not at the details (I do like a billion sketches when I don't know what I'm doing)
1st sketch is pose, 2nd is fleshing out the character, 3rd is usually refining things
Oh same, I do about gajillion sketch until I get it the way I like, but I'm just indecisive lol
yea or sometimes show various interpretations, its like...which one looks more dead kinda thing XD
I was fiddling with the pose sooo much. I wanted him to be jumping but like, closer to the end of the jump. Which you don't see much in photos so I had to Frankenstein some refs together
Maybe you can watch clips of deers on how they land after jumping. But yea you're on the right track
oh shoot you're totally right jghdfkjg
Sooooo.... I’m gonna have to marry your art style. Please let us get together 😔
Wait that's not my art that's MK/RET's art.
him
dies ive been working on this ref sheet for a couple of hours
ref sheets are always pure pain
So you won't marry mine? :( @ripe compass
He
im just not used to painting so many markings, hes turned out to be one of my most complex characters
i think he looks cool but jesus christ im literally dying
I never bother with markings lol. Which is why I switched to skeletons
That actually is quite a complex design oog
I don't really like drawing clothing so
oof
I redact my previous statement
PLEASE LET ME MARRY YOUR ART

I like the patterns and colors a lot
But I think the big toes are on the wrong side on the back ref...?
@solid stag
typically i would fix it before the lineart but uhhh i didnt realize until after i had colored a lot of the ref

oof. it’s okay i didnt notice until like my third scrollover so youre probably fine lol
- your favorite color
Green!!(#00CC00 if you want to be specific.)
- your favorite part to draw in art (like a character's hair, or a tree, anything along those lines)
I love drawing hair, but anything that requires me to do some crosshatch shading, thick stylized lines, or dynamic poses usually puts me in the grove/
** - character type art you like (bust, portrait, full body, scenery, etc.)**
Any and all. I enjoy concept art or illustrations that tell a story whether it be character or environmental storytelling.
- something you'd like to improve on (hands, poses, etc.)
Definitely want to draw faster and be more confident in my poses and overall composition.
- a theme you enjoy (cute, horror, happy, sad, etc.)
Dynamic or action. I also like comics where I can show a range or evolution of emotions.
ooooooh nice ty ty for sharin
i wanna answer it too >:)
-my favorite color is yellow yellow yellow (mustard yellow is wonderful but so are pastel yellows!! (and i love the neon highlighter yellow too 😳 )
-i like to draw faces :0 especially since i've gotten better at expressions by drawing a lot them
-i like to draw bust but also full body when i have an idea for an outfit and im like :0 omg i hafta draw it otherwise i will forget then spend 30 minutes trying to remember without avail
-i want to improve on hands 😭 and backgrounds, because those are really hard for me
-i like smiles but horror/gore art is fun to do even though im inexperienced at it
a very late answer but
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Purple 8) (specifically dark purple / a royal-ish purple) and a mustard kind of color !
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I really like drawing clothing (this could be outfits, just the little wrinkles, etc) and backgrounds !
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I like doing busts cause then I don't have to draw legs 🏃♂️ I also enjoy drawing landscaping, though it is hard at times
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Probably posing and legs,, I struggle hh
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I really like horror and happy art ! (not combined lmao)
whats supposed to go in the unique slot idk dont ask me ive only semi-made nonromanceables before and they didnt make this many expressions
that moment when ur too biased for ur fave and that limits the range of exaggerated expressions ur willing to put on em
im trying to export it transparent out of procreate but it’s not working. like i tried exporting other transparent stuff i have and it works but only this one doesnt work and im losing my mind lol 
i wish i could help but i will at least say ur portraits look LOVELY
i gonna put the full refs in creative but theres multiple refs because of reasons
heres nano's full ref with hair
a close up of his face markings
and one without his hair so you can see his back markings a bit better
very pretty!!
Sheep Time
SHEEP TIME
thats so cute!!
Ahh, so fluffy. 
UM, i may have fallen for Sam 
ahh late
-red/black/purple
-Outfits
-Bust and Portrait, but am starting to get the hang of full body!
-Poses as well as hands 😩
-Fantasy and Happy 

How do people do doodles 😔 every time I try I just freak out that I'm not trying my best to make it look good
i just stopped caring tbh. doodle a funny meme with your ocs or something
yeah as a whole it'd be something you think is fun but you're ok if it's not absolutely perfect
there are still good high quality doodles but i think the ESSENCE of a doodlei s that you're having fun
im making a slightly higher quality shitpost image with my ocs but its still not a very high effort drawing
I have an idea for stardew: Since its based on Harvest Moon, what if your animals could get sick and die? what if they could get taken away for neglect? (not in the hm games i played but since its meant to be 'a better harvest moon' it would be great and a way to stop lazy players from time travelling)
ALSO PLEASE I WANT TO PICK UP MY CHICKENS AND DUCKS AND COOP ANIMALS I WANNA HOLD A DUCK PLZ CONCERNEDAPE
Idk if this goes here
scared bapy. Someone probably mentioned heights.
also my poor attempt at trying to not be a perfectionist
Very nice expressions
@golden sigil
great expression!!
have u unchecked the background layer?
back on my bs
Ahhh looks good!!
😲
Favorite Color: Crimson (darker red)
Favorite Part to Draw: Not really a part, but I love drawing thicc women because c u r v e s
Art I like: Full bodies in environments; I’m a big fan of semi-realism specifically, it’s an art style I strive for
What I’d like to Improve: Hair, dear God I can’t do h a i r
Theme I enjoy: Cutesy and beautiful stuffs. Portraits are nice too!
heck yeah crimson
thicc women can be very fun to draw 
wishing u the best in ur hair goals also!
you think I wouldn't go a day without drawing this addiction...
i have lolol
the tiff is exporting nontransparent too. just for this one canvas. istg im losing it lolol
it's time for crab Sebastian
the rough hoodie sketch lines nearly made me think you'd given him a mullet 😂
i-same, doodles be giving me ahhh
RIP
YESSS
Also noooo
Nothing was able to be recovered nae?
did you have backups?
i hate some of my art stuff saved on a flash drive
so thats good
but the majority is bonked

Oh God, well good to see more of your art again I guess
And that you're back at it
not looking forward to recreating all my brushes
might just have to start using the default brushes
cause im too lazy to remake everything
Ooof. I export my brushes so I have backups so-....
But yeah, the default brushes are already great imo
have a catra as i work on other things
omg I can’t unsee now XD
the pain of having to start fresh
pain
putting the pain in paint since 1432
for me i feel like as long as i have my workspace preset i can do anything, brushes dont really matter to me; thats why i uploaded my own workspace to my profile so i can download it across all my pc's 😌
I lost all my wips and brushes too when I had to reset my iPad because it was stuck on the damn Apple logo
I also lost the damn purchase I made on the app
😔
f :<
ay clip studio paint gang
And beside that my laptop no longer works because it’s outta battery and my charger was torn apart so I can’t animate
Just my luck
big oof im sorry

Butta dawg
Dog with the butta
welcome back nerd!!!
read the rules smh
pain
i have my workspace saved as a preset as well
its just pain
apply cold water on the burnt area
but dayum, I would lose my mind too if lose any worth art
good thing I have none
besides Jun
eh
i dont care much about losing my art tbh
for one i always share my stuff when im done working so i can easily recover those hq png files
and the csp files dont mean much to me once im already done
so eh
Yea
rip all my art on my bricked laptops

luckily i send wips all the time as well
so i just work from the screenshot
well that is something
but for someone who do layers for almost everything, like me, I would start crying
ig so
but having a screenshot to start working form again is way easier than having nothing
ghgdfnghfd n baby
whoa! nice lineart
i like the mustache™️
This looks amazing so far! 
I didn't draw anything today jolly good
Bite his mustache
wholesome...
does anyone have tips on how to make good mouse art? I'm always bored at work and I won't have my tablet with me so-...
good mouse art
idk
its gonna be shaky
but you can just try working on simplier stuff
hmm, i dont usually do any but what i'm thinking from like common sense is probably:
do faster strokes for big areas so its not as shaky, undo is ur best friend xD, and uhh probably just practice a lot tbh.
lol dunno if that helps at all
but xD
and maybe more strokes with your arm/elbow? idk
since you wont have any pen pressure you can try rendering stuff with solid colours
yea
good idea
i legitimately thought you meant like the animal mouse for a second
lke "man there's plenty of good mouse art out there"
So did I, LMAO
😂
sorry for not being specific skskskks
i used to draw exclusively with a mouse as a kid but i lost my touch since then
noooo ur fine
if you have a phone i would recommend some pixel art apps since those can look good
and you use your fingy
oh yeah that would be great
ms paint is a god tier drawing program
i knew a dude who made animations in powerpoint
might as well since I'm working on data input rn
that is big brain
big brain idea, unfortunately the guy was not so big brained
legit he posted a blank file to the art channel and got mad when we said "bro thats not art?"
just a stark blank png file
I got confused what you were asking also, cause I thought about the animal too.
oh no Chounk 😂
Unless you just need a really good mouse and mess with the stability on whatever program you're using??? I've seen people do insane shit on mobile paint apps..those guys are a different animal lol. Also sorry I didn't browse the chat before answering this XD
people who animate with their finger on flipaclip are artists to be feared
yea those guys > >
i tried drawing with my finger once
a-... my mouse at work has a delay and it's very slow-
I can however provide you a link to a stylus I use for my Switch?
Switch
but haha it's fine I don't use my Switch that often
I sometimes paint on my 3DS using colors sometimes
I just use the joysticks-
but I haven't touched that thing in ages...
WH
i want nintendo to bring back flipnote
flipnote was the best thing ever
outfit 2/?
1- who are this
2- can you give them headpats
2
nyanners, look her up on twitch or twitter
ahh. one of those vtubers/streamers?
twitter was effectively empty
fanart for a twitch streamer :D
they did a "sleepover" stream with a bunch of friends so I did fanart of one of the frames 8)
I forgot it was spoilered hh
horrible creature, VTuber & VA http://youtube.com/nyanners banner: @mushiki_k icon &
Illust: @Nia_0703 & Live2D @iron_vertex art tag: #nyanart
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233330
Isee.
This just a sprite project for the fun of it or are you turning them into an npc?
NPC
well, my plan is to turn everyone in that "agency" into one
and maybe a few others
depending on burnout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLqG78V1rx0&t=3s Angel deserves all of my respect, I noticed how many mistakes I've been doing and he just opened my eyes.
A tutorial on how to improve your drawing lines.
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smh my head smook
even on my old account ive been sending angel stuff
but yeah it does help a lot
just htinking of your art as something existing in a 3d space really helps it to level up
soz for not listening and checking the vids you were sharing, ok???
I was so dum
now I am so hype to evolve!!!
like a pokemon
hell yeah
excited to see more from you
ah smook
im gonna dm you something
but shhh
its a secret
ngl, my first lay in studies looks like complete poop but besides that progress little by little
ooh?

youre gonna make a lot of poops before you get better
just trust the process
being an artist is all about lying in a pile of poop while holding up that one nice-looking piece of bread
bruh, I WAS NOT EVEN HOLDING MY PEN PROPERLY, and didn't draw from shoulder!!!!
I'M A NEW MAN
pfffft
thats the thing about art
people dont like to hear it but there is a wrong and right way to practice
a lot of artist just end up doing the wrong thing over and over for a long ass time
"its just my art style"

now.... i know i should draw from the shoulder but most times i dont-
most aggravating excuse ever
well I didn't said "it's my style" but clearly I was blind
i dont draw from my shoulder
its uncomfortable
i just work from the elbow and wrist
I'm still down to try it more often
yeah same
especially since my tablet itself is small
theres not much room for me to work from my shoulder
when i one day move onto oil painting on a large canvas on an easel then maybe ill move my whole shoulder lmao
fuck it ill move my wholeass body too
yeah
whenever i get a bigger tablet or something ill draw with my shoulder
do a wholeass dance 💃
but rn if i try making lines with my shoulder ill just go off the tablet surface

the progress you could see from people who followed Angel's tutorials over discord and yt is sick!!!
yeah his students improve a lot
just gotta put in the work and practice the right way

wait wait wait
so does this mean youre gonna drop outta the lineart gang?
controversial opinion but- planes and lineart can coexist 
well I don't know, after getting better and more confident in my painting it will all depend on the style
im not good enough yet to add lines to my work without flattening it
so for now i mostly avoid having too many lines showing in the end product
the time will answer what I will do
right now I don't want to lose my hype for practicing

lol, I can see some of them in my folder too
I’ll draw with my feet and call it fart...
but on a serious note , it’s mostly a lot of practice and implementing what you know..
there was a site that displays a bunch of figure drawings on em but the link escapes atm

that is a lot of testosterone
(oo)
i have
a basic sketch down of how the character is supposed to look
how do i
anatomy

anatomy hard
ALSO PLS
hmm i would say just have a vivid imagination bc i do but ig thats not helping skskkss
TONGUE POG
yes thats not 😩
ig i should finish something thats due today first ugng
the thing you’d want to try first is breaking each part of the body into simple shapes and think three dimensional how that shape will look. I guess I mean that even simple repetitive loops to create volume on the arm actually helps visualize that..
i never did that, 
yea , when I’m sketching I draw a bunch of rings built up so this helps create that accumulated muscle volume
in a sense yea
but i dont know how long or thick and then it just looks shit 
also sorry if this sounds confusing I’d demo it if I didn’t just wake up lol
you know... the da vinci ratio or something?
yeah that
no i dont
but like, more techical skksks
Have you tried to do figure drawing before ? because this will help loosen you up
no i didnt,
the ratios.. idk how to explain sksksksk
Also if you’re looking for people to study look up Andrew Loomis and Glenn Vilpuu
my eye/sense of ratio is very intuitive so im not good with words-
but I would suggest scrolling through Pinterest once in a while, they've got some good anatomy LIFE HACKS on there
yea I’m slightly dyslexic actually so I need shit to be demo’d to me tbh...
yeah same ::
the ultimate reference
i dont have pinterest anymore :')
yea also I stress this a lot but style should be the last thing to figure out before getting the basic foundations down
^^ yeah
i feel like my styles kinda basic
If you’re weak at a certain thing , don’t be shy with refs
im weak at
everything 
week
sh
i nearly wrote week too 😭
on a daily basis i just go through stuff like this
maybe im weak at spelling too dhmu
it helps with my knowledge base as well as... you know, its nice to look at 
WHATS STUFF LIKE THAT?? i cant read that bro 
i used to, too, but again
i cant use pinterest lmfao
just tips for drawing hands: pay attention to the tendons, the bone where it juts out etc.
i gtg peace out, here have this while i leave
where it's soft where it's hard on the fingers
i need to fix that drawing
oh actually hands are the most stylized thing i have... i absolutely fuck on bones or stuff like that as long as it looks right because i love spiky ;;;;;;;;
that looks super so far though?? i dont see anything to fix, but gl :o
I LOVE BONES BRO-....
hands are hard and still is
b o n e s 
that is some good hands actually
how my hands look without ref-
actually!! ill go finish some stuff and search up the people mentioned above, thank you guys 
gl!
yeeee

also hello frog husband
thats a pretty pog hand
mm hand
Frogsband 
make a froggy band with tiny instruments and stuff

You know I wanna draw that kinda now...I saw fanart of Sebby making little scarves for the froggies and geez that make me warm and fuzzy lol
I'm not seeing anything glaringly wrong, at least
meh. tiny box.
hmm, im not very good but maybe its the shorts? You could try making the top bit of them a little shorter in height
maybe thats it lul tjsut the design had high wasit shorts but maybe i didmt draw tehem well
Artist pls
Those are so crisp
this help at all? just tilted the hips a bit more, and moved the point where the right-side leg attaches down some.
idk if it's really better or correct
back on my bullshit
woah
that is amazing
I need to do some of that practice
yo Nae got and pictures i can use to practice with?
HAHAHAH i have a folder exactly like this on pinterest 
also one for like... weird poses and things
I have one on pinterest too :')
I should make one
Here we go..The Pelican Bachelors in my style kinda...I'm still fixing Elliot lol. I'll get to the Bachelorettes eventually.
They're so cute! 
haha thanks!
Awww!!! Alex is amazing but he already has my heart, Elliott is also great (I really like the pose, and the hand positions), and tHE CHICKEN IN SHANES HOODIE OMG
LOL Elliot was difficult for me. I referenced Fabio and Prince Adam of Beauty and the Beast to get the look I wanted .XD
He looks so sassy and refined!
yea was suppose to go for sass but eloquence and i wasn't sure XD
It’s by @ TKJUN_m on Twitter!
SHANe
<3
the only man ever


chibi heads stare into your soul
So cutee!
definition of owo 
chibii
so cute
dropping this here so i have reason to not leave it as a wip forever
niiiice
.
dropping my wips on here did not help me not abandon them assfv
HA LOL
but
that files got busted when my pc commited not alive
so
itll never be finished
mood
it will remain a memory
So frikin beautiful - your improvement over this past year is absolutely crazy nae 

Go finish smh
👀
10/10 best image to have in the corner
not a particularly good one
but i will miss that necklace
aww thank you
i will dont beat me
also yes micko
10/10 image
the full thing
how wholesome
also I really like the layout you chose for when drawing, might copy some of the layout
yeah i find it helps to have a constant view of what the piece looks zoomed out
along with the reference
wifi pleasee
stop being so mean to me
is it possible to share the workspace? so that I can save it and use it later whenever I want to use it
yeah I found out that you can earlier today
https://ask.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=7616
though the screenshots are quite old
ugggh
I have to go all the way to the assets store
i'll do this
later
but i really just dragged and dropped stuff based on how i saw emilyena had hers set up
oo
don't worry about it, I will see if I can copy it from just looking at it

csp really made me change all my screenshots to jpeg before i could use them
pain
Oof
@mossy leaf
ooo thanks so much Nae
also quick question Nae, the reference image window that you used doesn't seem to be using csp subview, I am not really sure if there is a way to make two subviews
yeah that seems to have worked but I can't seem to place it in the same spot nae placed it
first drag it to the side like this
then once you have the reference image at the side you can drag your second canvas below it or above it
the red line will pop up like this
then you can just adjust the size of it
np
hope it works out
Welp I did join to the band wagon
It's been a while since I last drew Eclipsa's dumbass hot uncle tho
Thank
AHH I LOVE IT 
Thank youuu 💖💖
i hate hair
i swear this piece is gonna have like 90 layers
just reading that made my heart ache
just work on one layer 
it changed my life
now that i do lineart one layer, painting one layer, lighting one layer
but ofc ik its not for everyone, just sharing
i used to work with 40-50 layers too
this
i try to use as little layers as possible
but even tho i dont do everything on one layer anymore i still keep my rendering for each thing on one layer
i find it a lot easier to render and blend
hell yeah
one of us needs to be practicing the right way
ive jsut been sketching cute girls
thats the joys of improving
I wanna absorb all the info and then apply!
just try not to get burnt out
work in sessions
you might kill your drive too soon
hopefully, it's a lot of theory but I can see more clear now, every step
I did get a little burnt but it has to be like this in the beginning so after that I can simplify it
time to simp 
^
wow Nae, how can you forget the most important lesson Angel told us about "stay away from the females, to understand structure you need a lot of ugly mfs and after you understand it you can forget about the men"
you donut deserve women yet, you freaking simp!!

I don't think ima drew all of them either lmao, but practice long enough to understand the lay in, structure, get better at line weight and then move on shading
sorry angel but i cant stay away from women
theyre so cute
my folder of attractive people is literally just cute girls and asian men

More consistent and compact cursors?
csp is losing it
just wanted to post my workspace for one person
me who literally drew a person
@exotic snowdo you have access to your pc rn?
i wanna see if someone else can access the csp assets store
this is what i get
Yep I'm on
it shows up for me
maybe i can export the .sut to you?
Finished finally

Awww cute!
this is amazing!! cute bb boi
Beautiful

@marble mantle I swear to God, so as I was looking at my dad talking I could literally see the lay in structure lines drawn on his face and I was like... wth? I shake my head a little and he went like "what's wrong kid?" Lmao
Too much for a day
👍

just a little more and you'll be able to see people as 3d models skskks
thats the awakening
once you learn about planes and seeing in 3d
You cant go back
cute little dog
I should
Really draw something
Didn't touch csp since that Alex
Which isn't exactly complete either

i remember one time i studied so much colour theory, all irl colours just became super vivid it was trippy xD
yeah
It happens when you get a new understanding of something
its really cool tbh
draw a river or something easy to get back in the flow
oooooooooo
thats a great portrait
i love character with locks or material for hair that resembles locks
Fancy Farmer taking on forms... still working on the background. 👌
Trying a new way of coloring! Also thank you :D
:D
spicy
i dont know how to draw the second eye though 
nnnnnnno i wanna draw my ocs dad who i only got a faceclaim for so far
ow
how the fuck am i gonna draw this sucker UHBISDAFHUISDA
with your hands, duuuh
UR CONFUSING ME
I lodge the stylus up my nose like a normal person, idk what's up with you guys
late 20s?

I would say his age range is 27-35
could be early thirties but beaten up by a hard life (or just partying like a 70s rock star all the time)
tried sketching Shen yue and I realise how bad I really am at drawing, analysed the sketch and figured out places where I could improve, I need to improve a lot
you did fairly well
just focus on capturing the likeness
@mossy leaf you can try tracing the reference at first
to properly capture the shapes and proportions
then you draw it free handed on your own
same with the hair
for studies
you dont need to go much deeper than the shape or outlines for it
yeah
its good you can look at your drawing and point out everything you see wrong with it
what i normally do with stuff like that is point out my mistakes
then i put my drawing over the picture im referencing
then i fix proportions based on that
I like criticising my work, helps me get a better idea on what i can do better next time
good
criticism and feedback is what helps us grow
hnghn im so mad rn my hand cramped
holy damn the shading
I love how you can tell all the details of the hair by the colours
they look soo smooth
i will
never
ever
ever do hair that detailed
i dont have the patience or the skill
that looks really good
that looks amazing forsy 
i love it!!
i tried to shade hair like that once before but didnt have the right brushes
now i do
what ive realized is that
the more detailed and realistic you go with stuff in art is the more precise youll have to be
and im not about that life
everyones art is amazing also i love abigail
Abigail is the ultimate best girl there is no competition
shane is best girl but ok
This is the best statement I’ve ever heard- thank you
Alex is best girl, fite me 
I agree on this
Thank you <3
No nae is best girl-
ok, I def agree with that
butter being smooth butter again 
I’m the finest of butter
be using geometric shapes to draw human faces better
Does this look good, I based the art off a zoom in on the photo
yeah it does look good!
the human sketch turned out better than I thought it would
doing the mouth was a pain
the original mouth
the old mouth looked like a zombie
That's great but try using a 3d model to trace in the structure lines and then draw it free hand measuring the proportions, at least that's what I'm studying rn
yeah thats a cool idea
i used to use 3d models too but they are too stiff for me bc most of my stuff is stylised i stopped after a few weeks
After that ofc you're going to move on real models
i only used them for complex poses tho, and yeah
using 3D models is convinent and useful but I feel like if I used them I would rely on them too much and wouldn't be able to do it without 3D models
I used to use 3D models to draw full poses but I stopped using them because I was relying on them too much and wasn't really improving my skills
Omg, I love it
:D
Any tips?

this can actually help a lot
look up the asaro head
itll help with the planes
and one top for teeth
is to never draw them
teeth look creepy
just make one solid row and then break it up with the gum
you can make the canine or so a bit more pronounced
hm... maybe make the neck just a bit thinner at the base?
agree with sherb, neck be just a bit thinner 
Screw it, redesigning the face for the third time (I did also make the neck thinner)
I think I'm finally succeeding in making a proper face.
the neck doesnt really line up with the shoulders
best way to solve this is to just do the body itself first
and then add the clothes later
Ah, I just copied and edited the clothing from the first version, so that's why I didn't think to line the new neck up, thanks for the tip!
is it just me, or is the ear a lil too high, too?
yeah its a bit high looking at it now
the tip of the ear usually falls a bit below the eyes
i actually came here to say:
i don't have proper fucking brushes and it's hard
AND THE WALL IS SO FUCKING HIGH UP I HAVE TO USE A LADDER BECAUSE IM LIKE 1 FOOT???? AT LEAST THATS WHAT I FEEL LIKE
maybe something like this
you use sai right?
ive never understood how the brushes work in that program
:0
in real life
bro
i dont know the proper english word for that
isnt it brush??
PAINTBRUSH??
DUDE I HAVE LIKE A FUCKING 1€ SHITTY KID THING I CUT OFF TO HAVE AT LEAST SOMETHING TO WORK W
idk what youre doing
so maybe its brush
ive seen people use markers and stuff for walls as well
markers dont work lmao
if ur coloring it, it all goes into each other
im doinnnnnnnnng-
just gotta get the right markers
im literally just painting on walls
sounds fun
why are you drawing on walls?
why arent you?
cause i dont like traditional art
we have like a wood and metal room where ppl do shit but uhh
theres kids all over the place rn
sounds not fun
aaaaand i hate metal and wood is too full // no workbenches free
so i asked if my friend and me can go into the lil uhh
painter room next to metal
i loved metal work tho
was one of my fav subjects
sounds
not safe
sit there, play switch, play cards, draw
Completely ignores the conversation about art on wall I took in some of the feedback, any more?
dont you guys have big equipment and tools?
lol
theres not much of a forehead
I MEAN I GOT A SAW BUT I FOUND THAT AND IM OWNING THAT SHIT BRUH, ITS MINE NOW
The eyes have to be like about half of the head's height.
i dont know the actual word rn but u dont have eyesockets and
well
a forehead
id try and actually help but i suck shit at pixel art lmao
the face looks cool though, its just the head shape
is this better then?
i dont see what you changed but tiny man
The annoying thing is that when I draw visible eyesockets, the eyes just pop out way too much.
(v3 has really subtle socketas)
one thing about the nose
if youre going for a big nose
you need to make the nose big in terms of everything else on the face
so it still looks correct
YES THANK YOU NAE
i was abt to do that 😭
but like on paper
which wouldve sucked
so ty for not sucking
pffft
np
So I have to redo my nose again or have to redo other things again?
Nae doing gods work
nae being very helpful 24/7
Btw, thanks to both of you for helping out so much
wouldnt it help if you would just make the face on another layer, hide it //lower the oppacity and focus on the head shape rn
^
because thats the biggest issue
but what i did here was i raised the hairline a bit to give him a forehead
then i lowered the ear since the top of the ear usually falls right under the eyes
then i adjusted the position of the nose and mouth since the nose was too big to be anatomically correct
that led to me having more space to fit the mouth in the right place since he originally didnt have much of a chin
after that i kinda just adjusted the head shape [which you dont have to do in yours if thats the look you want] to make it a bit more anatomical
Try using references too

Ew mosquitos
what is that emoteee
which

wear headphones

my new favourite thing
yknow whats my favourite emote
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Mhm.... So I have to make the same kinds of edits, but still following the grid.
are
you ok?
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I wish I was but I’m not
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you dont have to follow what i did exactly
is more just a guideline to help make it look more natural

didnt even realize i was making these edits right under my work
As I always say to myself “reference is key” i don’t know why but it helps me learn <3
dont just say that to urself thats a rule
what im working on btw
I know a lot of people that don’t use references because they think it’s copying or plagiarism
depends on how you use them
especially when im trying to draw a character of a certain race
since my style is more semi realistic i have to think about that stuff
I mean, if you literally copy the lines then maybe yes, else prolly no.
if youre just plainass drawing over them, its copying, yeah, but even that helps for reference
just tell ppl that you used that ref and dont post it saying u did it all by urself
this
i use references all the time
i used them?? since forever?? and it rlly rlly rlly helped me and my artstyle
I use references to learn anatomy other then that it’s probably me experimenting
for example uhh
this kinda shit? i didnt knew how to even start w the pose so references helped alot lol
Brooo thats so good!
i love my russian idiot,
what im mainly focusing on rn is stylizing real people
so like
keeping features and expressions while making it my style
so reference are very important
yes
I’m incapable of using real people as reference
god dammit
i flipped my canvas nwo i want to cry
I hate flipping the canvas
no youre not
unflip
thats the best kinda reference to use
MY MOM STOLE MY COLA
I literally cannot use them because too many details hurt my brain
i try to never use art as a reference for stuff like posing and shit
cause artists are people too and they make mistakes
learning stuff like anatomy purely from other artists will just lead to you learning their mistakes
just the important ones
or youll end up just stylizing things without knowing why or how they stylized it
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when you use real people as reference the main goal is to break down the shapes and distinguishing features that you see
1-10 how good is the chin?
... With that 45* angle??
certainly looks better than before
I’ll keep that in mind
its a bit flat and squared off but if thats the look youre going for then 7
I’m still mad my dad didn’t get me a new charger when I told him to order it weeks ago like dude I need to finish that animation please-
Would you guys/gals/whatever consider this good enough?
nae can ur bigbrain help me w something specific im struggling w since 2 years
The chin rating was a joke lol
sure
i can try
finds pic
yup
yey
if i stop replying its because the mosquitoes flew away with me
LOL
NOOOOO NAE COME BACK
theres literally like
30 dead mosquitoes beside me
okay so how the actual FUCK do you draw chins from this angle
Or like in general when u see the chin from the bottom
because i cannot
and im dying ever since, everything i ever tried fucked me over and im at a loss ;;;;;;;
thankfully i have this tennis racket zapping thingy so i can shock em to death
Why do mosquitoes exist like just don’t ❤️
i cant even try tracing over because that looks shit too
ah
thats a tricky angle
Yoooo I have one too
because youre gonna end up seeing a lot of under the chin
gimme a sec to draw over the ref
wait i have more
Head angles definitely are hard that’s why I never really do em :/
In this situation it might be detail that helps
im not good w detail bc of my artstyle
I rarely ever do details most of my things are flat colors and simple
my coloring is just rlly rlly sloppy uhhh
blending
hold on
i dont understand why ppl like that
like fr
I have the tendency to go all simple, but only know how to do realistic-ish eyes which makes all my faces look weird after I added the eyes.
please explain its just me using a brush
do the eyes first 👀
My friend knows how to draw from the bottom up 👀
actually a thing some1 told me, if you do the eyes first, then the nose and then the mouth its easier toposition
this was a big issue for me too
thats why i kinda just gave up on artstyle for a big
and focused on detailed
now i just simplify everything
YEAH BUT
THATS NOT THE PROBLEM
THE PROBLEM IS IF ITS TOO DETAILED YOU CANT SEE SHIT BC I WORK SO SLOPPY
from what i can tell
the chin ends at the green line
but because of the angle
youre gonna see a lot of under the chin
thats the red shaded bit

it just looks awkward cause i suck at angles like this
but thats basically what it is
looks squishy
just gotta think of the head as like
3d
wait doesnt it go uhh
so theres gonna be some sections under
some on the side
some on the top
Use a 3D model to see how everything looks in a certain angle
Ight i gtg work my shift is on
Bye guys
Also I have identified another problem in my drawing of faces... I always try to incorperate the nose in the outline when it's got like 37* before the nose would have any impact- Wait what's with the foto of this guy?
pls dont start w 3d or im melting
one of the first things i normally do with refs like these is just brighten the shadows
so i can actually see the planes and curves
yeah thats basically it
and everything in the red area would be under and in deep shadow

i think you can do it in sai
i might try that again sometime
its the level correction thing
can i just
https://open.spotify.com/artist/1f5Qv25dd6ldcXS9aKqDTi?si=GfGJXaOSS2CovE3PL_jqUQ&dl_branch=1 is this guy and im so amused by him
thanks thats all
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i never heard of that,
i love his name and he reminds me of my best friends main oc 
how the fuck did you open that and why is it dark for you
if thats actually still sai
I... haven't thought I'll be using the soft eraser so much in my entire damn life...
oh no its not sai
i have sai on my other pc
for sai its in filter
then colour adjustments
then brightness and contrast
idk what the hell a soft eraser is but eyes <3
i use a custom eraser
lol
wait
its great for when im sketching
now I can see the shape of the brush in csp?
i use these two failures as my erasers
yeah
because I don't
groans in i want csp but no paypal
why are there two men kissing in the corner
that underside is gonna be in shadow
nae
shhhh
answers now

its lin manuel miranda nad matthew morrison
im dead
he reminds me of tony start
the only two men ever

this looks like the angle of the second pic
where are u getting this from
i think i used to get 3d furry heads from that site lol
best head for planes ever
I would kiss it
the left side is a less detailed version of the planes and the right side contains most of the planes
thank you ily
i have a question
can yall open your last colored work and hide the lineart layer and just send the colors please

im begging
thinking about how i cant do that cause everything is merged
pffft
the looks cursed ngl
my worst one was
wheeew
but yeah i normally just sketch
add base colours
and merge so i cant really send the colours without the lines
contemplating doing lineart again
do it
how does this look
hot
do eyes have eyes in the eye to see
nae did u fill in the pupil 
OH ACTUALLY I FUCKING CAME HERE TO ASK SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT
pupils are for losers
does anyone know what this art style is called?? like is it just painting or???? and does anyone have more tutorials / tips for it or brushes for sai
i rlly wanna try but i cant if i dont find tutorials for it
thats just semi realism
a bit like what i do but more
realism
and you can honestly use any brush for that style
i recommend a brush with a bit of colour mixing









