#creative-discussion

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frigid halo
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It really is, because subtracting the muscle meat but still keeping it distinguishable is tricky 😮

golden sigil
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I think I did a pretty good job considering I literally never draw deer

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you can probably see at the bottom right his old ref was like
nonsensical

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also I know the ribcage makes no sense but this is only my 4th sketch so I'm not at the details (I do like a billion sketches when I don't know what I'm doing)

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1st sketch is pose, 2nd is fleshing out the character, 3rd is usually refining things

frigid halo
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Oh same, I do about gajillion sketch until I get it the way I like, but I'm just indecisive lol

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yea or sometimes show various interpretations, its like...which one looks more dead kinda thing XD

golden sigil
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I was fiddling with the pose sooo much. I wanted him to be jumping but like, closer to the end of the jump. Which you don't see much in photos so I had to Frankenstein some refs together

frigid halo
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Maybe you can watch clips of deers on how they land after jumping. But yea you're on the right track

golden sigil
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oh shoot you're totally right jghdfkjg

fierce forge
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woahhh thats so good

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i love the hair it very Soft

ripe compass
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Sooooo.... I’m gonna have to marry your art style. Please let us get together 😔

viral mango
ripe compass
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Woops I need to marry theirs then

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Thanks for telling me!

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🤦

golden sigil
solid stag
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dies ive been working on this ref sheet for a couple of hours

golden sigil
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ref sheets are always pure pain

viral mango
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So you won't marry mine? :( @ripe compass

viral mango
solid stag
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i think he looks cool but jesus christ im literally dying

golden sigil
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I never bother with markings lol. Which is why I switched to skeletons

viral mango
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That actually is quite a complex design oog

solid stag
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mans looks like iron man

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furry iron man

golden sigil
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I don't really like drawing clothing so wheeze oof

ripe compass
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PLEASE LET ME MARRY YOUR ARTSDVsadcat2 SDVsadcat2

fierce forge
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I like the patterns and colors a lot

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But I think the big toes are on the wrong side on the back ref...?

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@solid stag

solid stag
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i realized that

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im not going to fix it

fierce forge
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oh okay lol

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figured if it were a layer thing or smth sorry

solid stag
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typically i would fix it before the lineart but uhhh i didnt realize until after i had colored a lot of the ref

fierce forge
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oof. it’s okay i didnt notice until like my third scrollover so youre probably fine lol

upbeat swan
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- your favorite color
Green!!(#00CC00 if you want to be specific.)

  • your favorite part to draw in art (like a character's hair, or a tree, anything along those lines)
    I love drawing hair, but anything that requires me to do some crosshatch shading, thick stylized lines, or dynamic poses usually puts me in the grove/
    **
  • character type art you like (bust, portrait, full body, scenery, etc.)**
    Any and all. I enjoy concept art or illustrations that tell a story whether it be character or environmental storytelling.

- something you'd like to improve on (hands, poses, etc.)
Definitely want to draw faster and be more confident in my poses and overall composition.

- a theme you enjoy (cute, horror, happy, sad, etc.)
Dynamic or action. I also like comics where I can show a range or evolution of emotions.

unkempt tinsel
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ooooooh nice ty ty for sharin

ember zealot
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i wanna answer it too >:)

-my favorite color is yellow yellow yellow (mustard yellow is wonderful but so are pastel yellows!! (and i love the neon highlighter yellow too 😳 )

-i like to draw faces :0 especially since i've gotten better at expressions by drawing a lot them

-i like to draw bust but also full body when i have an idea for an outfit and im like :0 omg i hafta draw it otherwise i will forget then spend 30 minutes trying to remember without avail

-i want to improve on hands 😭 and backgrounds, because those are really hard for me

-i like smiles but horror/gore art is fun to do even though im inexperienced at it

fossil helm
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a very late answer but

  • Purple 8) (specifically dark purple / a royal-ish purple) and a mustard kind of color !

  • I really like drawing clothing (this could be outfits, just the little wrinkles, etc) and backgrounds !

  • I like doing busts cause then I don't have to draw legs 🏃‍♂️ I also enjoy drawing landscaping, though it is hard at times

  • Probably posing and legs,, I struggle hh

  • I really like horror and happy art ! (not combined lmao)

unkempt tinsel
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all are valid

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thanks for sharing guys!

fierce forge
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whats supposed to go in the unique slot idk dont ask me ive only semi-made nonromanceables before and they didnt make this many expressions

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that moment when ur too biased for ur fave and that limits the range of exaggerated expressions ur willing to put on em

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im trying to export it transparent out of procreate but it’s not working. like i tried exporting other transparent stuff i have and it works but only this one doesnt work and im losing my mind lol SDVpufferwoke

unkempt tinsel
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i wish i could help but i will at least say ur portraits look LOVELY

solid stag
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i gonna put the full refs in creative but theres multiple refs because of reasons

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heres nano's full ref with hair

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a close up of his face markings

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and one without his hair so you can see his back markings a bit better

unkempt tinsel
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very pretty!!

balmy venture
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Sheep Time

unkempt tinsel
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SHEEP TIME

fierce forge
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SDVpufferspring thats so cute!!

abstract dust
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Ahh, so fluffy. SDVpufferwow

blissful sonnet
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UM, i may have fallen for Sam uhhhh

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ahh late
-red/black/purple
-Outfits
-Bust and Portrait, but am starting to get the hang of full body!
-Poses as well as hands 😩
-Fantasy and Happy Heartato

unkempt tinsel
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ooh lovely!

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red/black/purple is a nice color combo nodders

golden sigil
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How do people do doodles 😔 every time I try I just freak out that I'm not trying my best to make it look good

solid stag
unkempt tinsel
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yeah as a whole it'd be something you think is fun but you're ok if it's not absolutely perfect

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there are still good high quality doodles but i think the ESSENCE of a doodlei s that you're having fun

solid stag
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im making a slightly higher quality shitpost image with my ocs but its still not a very high effort drawing

minor cedar
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I have an idea for stardew: Since its based on Harvest Moon, what if your animals could get sick and die? what if they could get taken away for neglect? (not in the hm games i played but since its meant to be 'a better harvest moon' it would be great and a way to stop lazy players from time travelling)
ALSO PLEASE I WANT TO PICK UP MY CHICKENS AND DUCKS AND COOP ANIMALS I WANNA HOLD A DUCK PLZ CONCERNEDAPE
Idk if this goes here

golden sigil
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scared bapy. Someone probably mentioned heights.

also my poor attempt at trying to not be a perfectionist

exotic snow
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Very nice expressions SDVpufferwoke @golden sigil

unkempt tinsel
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great expression!!

stuck robin
unkempt tinsel
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back on my bs

warm finch
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Ahhh looks good!!

versed fjord
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😲

vague marlin
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Favorite Color: Crimson (darker red)
Favorite Part to Draw: Not really a part, but I love drawing thicc women because c u r v e s
Art I like: Full bodies in environments; I’m a big fan of semi-realism specifically, it’s an art style I strive for
What I’d like to Improve: Hair, dear God I can’t do h a i r
Theme I enjoy: Cutesy and beautiful stuffs. Portraits are nice too!

unkempt tinsel
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heck yeah crimson

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thicc women can be very fun to draw nodders

wishing u the best in ur hair goals also!

frigid halo
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you think I wouldn't go a day without drawing this addiction...

fierce forge
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the tiff is exporting nontransparent too. just for this one canvas. istg im losing it lolol

remote wedge
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the rough hoodie sketch lines nearly made me think you'd given him a mullet 😂

blissful sonnet
marble mantle
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@blissful sonnetgot my pc back

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everything is wiped

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but atleast its working

exotic snow
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RIP

blissful sonnet
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Also noooo

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Nothing was able to be recovered nae?

marble mantle
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nope

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but its better than not having a pc at all

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so im grateful for that

exotic snow
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did you have backups?

marble mantle
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i hate some of my art stuff saved on a flash drive

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so thats good

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but the majority is bonked

exotic snow
mighty bronze
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Oh God, well good to see more of your art again I guess

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And that you're back at it

marble mantle
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not looking forward to recreating all my brushes

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might just have to start using the default brushes

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cause im too lazy to remake everything

exotic snow
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Ooof. I export my brushes so I have backups so-....

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But yeah, the default brushes are already great imo

restive forge
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have a catra as i work on other things

marble mantle
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the pain of having to start fresh

exotic snow
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pain

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putting the pain in paint since 1432

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for me i feel like as long as i have my workspace preset i can do anything, brushes dont really matter to me; thats why i uploaded my own workspace to my profile so i can download it across all my pc's 😌

cosmic oasis
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I lost all my wips and brushes too when I had to reset my iPad because it was stuck on the damn Apple logo

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I also lost the damn purchase I made on the app

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😔

weary drum
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f :<

restive forge
cosmic oasis
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And beside that my laptop no longer works because it’s outta battery and my charger was torn apart so I can’t animate

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Just my luck

cosmic oasis
viral mango
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Butta dawg

cosmic oasis
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Dog with the butta

mighty bronze
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read the rules smh

marble mantle
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pain

marble mantle
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its just pain

mighty bronze
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apply cold water on the burnt area

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but dayum, I would lose my mind too if lose any worth art

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good thing I have none

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besides Jun

marble mantle
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eh

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i dont care much about losing my art tbh

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for one i always share my stuff when im done working so i can easily recover those hq png files

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and the csp files dont mean much to me once im already done

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so eh

mighty bronze
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eh

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it's worse when you lose a drawing in progress

cosmic oasis
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Yea

gloomy turtle
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rip all my art on my bricked laptops

cosmic oasis
marble mantle
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so i just work from the screenshot

mighty bronze
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well that is something

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but for someone who do layers for almost everything, like me, I would start crying

marble mantle
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ig so

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but having a screenshot to start working form again is way easier than having nothing

golden sigil
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ghgdfnghfd n baby

solemn sandal
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whoa! nice lineart

restive forge
vale vine
viral mango
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I didn't draw anything today jolly good

viral mango
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Bite his mustache

unkempt tinsel
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wholesome...

exotic snow
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does anyone have tips on how to make good mouse art? I'm always bored at work and I won't have my tablet with me so-...

marble mantle
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good mouse art

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idk

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its gonna be shaky
but you can just try working on simplier stuff

lament turtle
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lol dunno if that helps at all

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but xD

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and maybe more strokes with your arm/elbow? idk

marble mantle
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since you wont have any pen pressure you can try rendering stuff with solid colours

lament turtle
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yea

unkempt tinsel
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i legitimately thought you meant like the animal mouse for a second

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lke "man there's plenty of good mouse art out there"

grand cave
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So did I, LMAO

exotic snow
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sorry for not being specific skskskks

unkempt tinsel
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i used to draw exclusively with a mouse as a kid but i lost my touch since then

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noooo ur fine

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if you have a phone i would recommend some pixel art apps since those can look good

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and you use your fingy

exotic snow
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ah yeah, i do

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or I could just do pixel art on Aseprite

marble mantle
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oh yeah that would be great

solid stag
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ms paint is a god tier drawing program

exotic snow
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OR

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Excel

solid stag
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i knew a dude who made animations in powerpoint

exotic snow
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might as well since I'm working on data input rn

exotic snow
solid stag
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big brain idea, unfortunately the guy was not so big brained

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legit he posted a blank file to the art channel and got mad when we said "bro thats not art?"

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just a stark blank png file

frigid halo
solid stag
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i would say just draw the giant rat from rat movie

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thats a good mouse

frigid halo
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Unless you just need a really good mouse and mess with the stability on whatever program you're using??? I've seen people do insane shit on mobile paint apps..those guys are a different animal lol. Also sorry I didn't browse the chat before answering this XD

solid stag
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people who animate with their finger on flipaclip are artists to be feared

solid stag
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i tried drawing with my finger once

exotic snow
frigid halo
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I can however provide you a link to a stylus I use for my Switch?

exotic snow
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Switch SDVpufferwoke but haha it's fine I don't use my Switch that often

frigid halo
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I sometimes paint on my 3DS using colors sometimes

exotic snow
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I just use the joysticks-

frigid halo
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but I haven't touched that thing in ages...

solid stag
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i want nintendo to bring back flipnote

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flipnote was the best thing ever

gloomy turtle
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outfit 2/?

humble lava
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1- who are this
2- can you give them headpats

exotic snow
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2

gloomy turtle
humble lava
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ahh. one of those vtubers/streamers?
twitter was effectively empty

fossil helm
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fanart for a twitch streamer :D

they did a "sleepover" stream with a bunch of friends so I did fanart of one of the frames 8)

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I forgot it was spoilered hh

gloomy turtle
humble lava
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Isee.
This just a sprite project for the fun of it or are you turning them into an npc?

gloomy turtle
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NPC

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well, my plan is to turn everyone in that "agency" into one

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and maybe a few others

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depending on burnout

mighty bronze
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marble mantle
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smh my head smook
even on my old account ive been sending angel stuff
but yeah it does help a lot

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just htinking of your art as something existing in a 3d space really helps it to level up

mighty bronze
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soz for not listening and checking the vids you were sharing, ok???

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I was so dum

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now I am so hype to evolve!!!

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like a pokemon

marble mantle
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hell yeah

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excited to see more from you

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ah smook
im gonna dm you something
but shhh
its a secret

mighty bronze
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ngl, my first lay in studies looks like complete poop but besides that progress little by little

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ooh?

marble mantle
marble mantle
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just trust the process

mighty bronze
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💩

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hell yes

exotic snow
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being an artist is all about lying in a pile of poop while holding up that one nice-looking piece of bread

mighty bronze
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bruh, I WAS NOT EVEN HOLDING MY PEN PROPERLY, and didn't draw from shoulder!!!!

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I'M A NEW MAN

marble mantle
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pfffft

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thats the thing about art
people dont like to hear it but there is a wrong and right way to practice

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a lot of artist just end up doing the wrong thing over and over for a long ass time

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"its just my art style"

mighty bronze
exotic snow
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now.... i know i should draw from the shoulder but most times i dont-

marble mantle
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most aggravating excuse ever

mighty bronze
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well I didn't said "it's my style" but clearly I was blind

marble mantle
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i dont draw from my shoulder

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its uncomfortable

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i just work from the elbow and wrist

mighty bronze
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I'm still down to try it more often

exotic snow
marble mantle
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especially since my tablet itself is small
theres not much room for me to work from my shoulder

exotic snow
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when i one day move onto oil painting on a large canvas on an easel then maybe ill move my whole shoulder lmao

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fuck it ill move my wholeass body too

marble mantle
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yeah
whenever i get a bigger tablet or something ill draw with my shoulder

exotic snow
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do a wholeass dance 💃

marble mantle
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but rn if i try making lines with my shoulder ill just go off the tablet surface

marble mantle
mighty bronze
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the progress you could see from people who followed Angel's tutorials over discord and yt is sick!!!

marble mantle
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yeah his students improve a lot

mighty bronze
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like in 6 months they were already commissions

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like dayum

marble mantle
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just gotta put in the work and practice the right way

mighty bronze
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It's been a long road, but I finally realized how to get better

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the right way

marble mantle
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hell
yeah

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join the planes gang

mighty bronze
marble mantle
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wait wait wait
so does this mean youre gonna drop outta the lineart gang?

exotic snow
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controversial opinion but- planes and lineart can coexist SDVpufferwoke

mighty bronze
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well I don't know, after getting better and more confident in my painting it will all depend on the style

marble mantle
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im not good enough yet to add lines to my work without flattening it

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so for now i mostly avoid having too many lines showing in the end product

mighty bronze
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the time will answer what I will do

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right now I don't want to lose my hype for practicing

marble mantle
exotic snow
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holy shit lmao

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but those are wonderful references

mighty bronze
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lol, I can see some of them in my folder too

frigid halo
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I’ll draw with my feet and call it fart...

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but on a serious note , it’s mostly a lot of practice and implementing what you know..

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there was a site that displays a bunch of figure drawings on em but the link escapes atm

spiral gale
marble mantle
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pffft

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lots of men

spiral gale
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heaven

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ACTUALLY CAN I HAVE 48

marble mantle
exotic snow
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send 100 my way pls

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more men

frigid halo
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that is a lot of testosterone

marble mantle
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yes

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men are great

frigid halo
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mmmmmm

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tatas

mighty bronze
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(oo)

spiral gale
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i have
a basic sketch down of how the character is supposed to look
how do i
anatomy

marble mantle
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anatomy hard

spiral gale
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ALSO PLS

exotic snow
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hmm i would say just have a vivid imagination bc i do but ig thats not helping skskkss

spiral gale
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TONGUE POG

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yes thats not 😩

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ig i should finish something thats due today first ugng

exotic snow
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i love .... tongues....

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💦

spiral gale
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yes bro....

frigid halo
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the thing you’d want to try first is breaking each part of the body into simple shapes and think three dimensional how that shape will look. I guess I mean that even simple repetitive loops to create volume on the arm actually helps visualize that..

exotic snow
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yeah big shapes

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kinda like you're building a robot

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but with muscles SDVpufferwoke

frigid halo
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yea , when I’m sketching I draw a bunch of rings built up so this helps create that accumulated muscle volume

frigid halo
spiral gale
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but i dont know how long or thick and then it just looks shit sadcat

frigid halo
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also sorry if this sounds confusing I’d demo it if I didn’t just wake up lol

exotic snow
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yeah that

spiral gale
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no i dont

exotic snow
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but like, more techical skksks

frigid halo
spiral gale
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no i didnt,

exotic snow
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this

spiral gale
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hehe dick

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what do i see out of this

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// in this 👀

exotic snow
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the ratios.. idk how to explain sksksksk

frigid halo
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Also if you’re looking for people to study look up Andrew Loomis and Glenn Vilpuu

exotic snow
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my eye/sense of ratio is very intuitive so im not good with words-

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but I would suggest scrolling through Pinterest once in a while, they've got some good anatomy LIFE HACKS on there

frigid halo
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yea I’m slightly dyslexic actually so I need shit to be demo’d to me tbh...

spiral gale
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yeah same ::

restive forge
spiral gale
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i dont have pinterest anymore :')

frigid halo
exotic snow
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^^ yeah

restive forge
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i feel like my styles kinda basic

frigid halo
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If you’re weak at a certain thing , don’t be shy with refs

spiral gale
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im weak at sparkle1 everything sparkle1

restive forge
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im weak at lying down poses

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i just wanna draw stargazing

spiral gale
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week

restive forge
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sh

spiral gale
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i nearly wrote week too 😭

exotic snow
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on a daily basis i just go through stuff like this

restive forge
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maybe im weak at spelling too dhmu

exotic snow
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it helps with my knowledge base as well as... you know, its nice to look at SDVpufferwoke

spiral gale
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WHATS STUFF LIKE THAT?? i cant read that bro sobcat

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i used to, too, but again
i cant use pinterest lmfao

exotic snow
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just tips for drawing hands: pay attention to the tendons, the bone where it juts out etc.

restive forge
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i gtg peace out, here have this while i leave

exotic snow
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where it's soft where it's hard on the fingers

restive forge
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i need to fix that drawing

spiral gale
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oh actually hands are the most stylized thing i have... i absolutely fuck on bones or stuff like that as long as it looks right because i love spiky ;;;;;;;;

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that looks super so far though?? i dont see anything to fix, but gl :o

exotic snow
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I LOVE BONES BRO-....

frigid halo
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hands are hard and still is

spiral gale
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b o n e s shibsmile

frigid halo
spiral gale
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its the best thing ive ever done

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NEXT TO THESE BUT I HAD A REF HERE

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so yeah sobcat

exotic snow
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how my hands look without ref-

spiral gale
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actually!! ill go finish some stuff and search up the people mentioned above, thank you guys ily

exotic snow
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gl!

frigid halo
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yeeee

spiral gale
frigid halo
marble mantle
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thats a pretty pog hand

fossil helm
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mm hand

mighty bronze
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Alex is so cute

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I mean the person here

lost kettle
frigid halo
lost kettle
frigid halo
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You know I wanna draw that kinda now...I saw fanart of Sebby making little scarves for the froggies and geez that make me warm and fuzzy lol

frank violet
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i need more human help

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sometihng feels off here

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but idk hwwhat

humble lava
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I'm not seeing anything glaringly wrong, at least

royal gyro
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meh. tiny box.

restive forge
# frank violet

hmm, im not very good but maybe its the shorts? You could try making the top bit of them a little shorter in height

frank violet
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maybe thats it lul tjsut the design had high wasit shorts but maybe i didmt draw tehem well

viral mango
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Those are so crisp

humble lava
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idk if it's really better or correct

frank violet
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oooohhh

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thank you so much!!!!

restive forge
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yo thats great

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looks a bit less stiff if thats the right word

frank violet
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ya i agree

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so glad i came here for help

marble mantle
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back on my bullshit

mossy leaf
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woah

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that is amazing

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I need to do some of that practice

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yo Nae got and pictures i can use to practice with?

marble mantle
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i normally just look up pics of celebrities i like

mossy leaf
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i.. don't know the names of any celebrity

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gimme a random celebrity to do

marble mantle
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just look on pinterest for pretty people

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umm

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shen yue

mossy leaf
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oo

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thanks

marble mantle
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she has a nice face

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lemme just get rid of the spam

silver relic
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also one for like... weird poses and things

outer garden
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I have one on pinterest too :')

mossy leaf
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I should make one

frigid halo
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Here we go..The Pelican Bachelors in my style kinda...I'm still fixing Elliot lol. I'll get to the Bachelorettes eventually.

broken mason
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They're so cute! SDVpufferwow

frigid halo
lament turtle
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Awww!!! Alex is amazing but he already has my heart, Elliott is also great (I really like the pose, and the hand positions), and tHE CHICKEN IN SHANES HOODIE OMG

frigid halo
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LOL Elliot was difficult for me. I referenced Fabio and Prince Adam of Beauty and the Beast to get the look I wanted .XD

lament turtle
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He looks so sassy and refined!

frigid halo
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yea was suppose to go for sass but eloquence and i wasn't sure XD

exotic snow
strong steppe
devout stream
#

chibi heads stare into your soul

grand cave
#

So cutee!

silver relic
#

definition of owo SDVpufferwow

marble mantle
#

chibii

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so cute

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dropping this here so i have reason to not leave it as a wip forever

exotic snow
#

.
dropping my wips on here did not help me not abandon them assfv

marble mantle
#

it really does not

#

to this day i havent finished haley

exotic snow
#

HA LOL

marble mantle
#

but
that files got busted when my pc commited not alive
so
itll never be finished

exotic snow
#

mood

grand cave
mossy leaf
#

10/10 best image to have in the corner

marble mantle
#

aww thank you

marble mantle
#

also yes micko
10/10 image

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the full thing

mossy leaf
#

how wholesome

mossy leaf
marble mantle
#

yeah i find it helps to have a constant view of what the piece looks zoomed out

#

along with the reference

#

wifi pleasee

#

stop being so mean to me

mossy leaf
#

is it possible to share the workspace? so that I can save it and use it later whenever I want to use it

marble mantle
#

i think so
gimmie a sec

#

ik for a fact i can upload it to the assets store

mossy leaf
#

though the screenshots are quite old

marble mantle
#

ugggh
I have to go all the way to the assets store

#

i'll do this
later

#

but i really just dragged and dropped stuff based on how i saw emilyena had hers set up

mossy leaf
#

oo

mossy leaf
mighty bronze
marble mantle
#

csp really made me change all my screenshots to jpeg before i could use them
pain

mossy leaf
#

Oof

marble mantle
#

@mossy leaf

mossy leaf
#

ooo thanks so much Nae

#

also quick question Nae, the reference image window that you used doesn't seem to be using csp subview, I am not really sure if there is a way to make two subviews

exotic snow
#

window > canvas > new window

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then just move it to wherever you like

#

or am i wrong

mossy leaf
#

yeah that seems to have worked but I can't seem to place it in the same spot nae placed it

marble mantle
#

then once you have the reference image at the side you can drag your second canvas below it or above it
the red line will pop up like this

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then you can just adjust the size of it

mossy leaf
#

ooo thanks

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thanks so much for all the help

marble mantle
#

np
hope it works out

lament turtle
#

Welp I did join to the band wagon

#

It's been a while since I last drew Eclipsa's dumbass hot uncle tho

viral mango
blissful sonnet
lament turtle
#

Thank youuu 💖💖

velvet sun
#

i hate hair

velvet sun
#

i swear this piece is gonna have like 90 layers

marble mantle
#

just reading that made my heart ache

exotic snow
#

just work on one layer SDVpufferwoke

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it changed my life

#

now that i do lineart one layer, painting one layer, lighting one layer

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but ofc ik its not for everyone, just sharing

#

i used to work with 40-50 layers too

mighty bronze
#

damn, I've been doing perspective studies all day

#

😵‍💫

marble mantle
#

i try to use as little layers as possible

#

but even tho i dont do everything on one layer anymore i still keep my rendering for each thing on one layer
i find it a lot easier to render and blend

marble mantle
#

ive jsut been sketching cute girls

mighty bronze
#

I can finally understand so much!!

#

it's too good to be real...

marble mantle
#

thats the joys of improving

mighty bronze
#

I wanna absorb all the info and then apply!

marble mantle
#

just try not to get burnt out

#

work in sessions

#

you might kill your drive too soon

mighty bronze
#

hopefully, it's a lot of theory but I can see more clear now, every step

#

I did get a little burnt but it has to be like this in the beginning so after that I can simplify it

mighty bronze
#

time to simp SDVpufferwoke

marble mantle
#

so many men

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watch me never draw any of them

#

i love women too much

outer garden
#

^

mighty bronze
#

wow Nae, how can you forget the most important lesson Angel told us about "stay away from the females, to understand structure you need a lot of ugly mfs and after you understand it you can forget about the men"

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you donut deserve women yet, you freaking simp!!

#

I don't think ima drew all of them either lmao, but practice long enough to understand the lay in, structure, get better at line weight and then move on shading

marble mantle
#

sorry angel but i cant stay away from women

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theyre so cute

#

my folder of attractive people is literally just cute girls and asian men

mighty bronze
loud quail
#

More consistent and compact cursors?

marble mantle
#

csp is losing it
just wanted to post my workspace for one person

#

me who literally drew a person

exotic snow
#

what

#

That could happen? I didn't know-

marble mantle
#

@exotic snowdo you have access to your pc rn?

#

i wanna see if someone else can access the csp assets store

#

this is what i get

exotic snow
#

it shows up for me

marble mantle
#

pain

#

i just wanna download the lasso fill

#

literal pain

exotic snow
#

maybe i can export the .sut to you?

remote wedge
#

Finished finally

marble mantle
steel spruce
marble mantle
#

that would help a lot

#

very cute doggo

silver relic
mighty bronze
strong steppe
mighty bronze
#

@marble mantle I swear to God, so as I was looking at my dad talking I could literally see the lay in structure lines drawn on his face and I was like... wth? I shake my head a little and he went like "what's wrong kid?" Lmao

#

Too much for a day

strong steppe
#

👍SDVemoteowo SDVpufferthumbsup

exotic snow
mighty bronze
#

Pffft

marble mantle
#

once you learn about planes and seeing in 3d
You cant go back

restive forge
viral mango
#

I should

#

Really draw something

#

Didn't touch csp since that Alex

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Which isn't exactly complete either

exotic snow
marble mantle
#

its really cool tbh

restive forge
cosmic oasis
#

Blows up

marble mantle
#

oooooooooo

#

thats a great portrait

#

i love character with locks or material for hair that resembles locks

vernal nexus
#

Fancy Farmer taking on forms... still working on the background. 👌

cosmic oasis
marble mantle
#

coming out nicely

#

colouring is the fun part of art

#

i love it

cosmic oasis
#

:D

spiral gale
#

GUYS GUYS GUYS

#

GUYS

#

I DREW A HAND

mighty bronze
#

spicy

spiral gale
#

i dont know how to draw the second eye though SCsmug

mighty bronze
#

pfft

#

draw an eye patch

#

pirate time bbi

spiral gale
#

nnnnnnno i wanna draw my ocs dad who i only got a faceclaim for so far

mighty bronze
#

ow

spiral gale
#

how the fuck am i gonna draw this sucker UHBISDAFHUISDA

mighty bronze
#

with your hands, duuuh

spiral gale
#

.................

#

ive been doing it wrong the entire time?! plsno

mighty bronze
#

LMAOO

#

ofc

#

you have to do it with your legs!!

spiral gale
#

UR CONFUSING ME

humble lava
#

I lodge the stylus up my nose like a normal person, idk what's up with you guys

spiral gale
#

OKAY GUYS

#

guess the age pls, whats he look like

#

actually nvm im done <3

remote wedge
spiral gale
mossy leaf
#

I would say his age range is 27-35

marble mantle
#

yeah same
he looks like he ages like hollywood starts

#

actually 50 but looks 30

humble lava
#

could be early thirties but beaten up by a hard life (or just partying like a 70s rock star all the time)

mossy leaf
#

tried sketching Shen yue and I realise how bad I really am at drawing, analysed the sketch and figured out places where I could improve, I need to improve a lot

marble mantle
#

you did fairly well
just focus on capturing the likeness

#

@mossy leaf you can try tracing the reference at first
to properly capture the shapes and proportions

#

then you draw it free handed on your own

#

same with the hair
for studies
you dont need to go much deeper than the shape or outlines for it

mossy leaf
#

oo thanks for the advice

#

will do that next time I practice

marble mantle
#

yeah

#

its good you can look at your drawing and point out everything you see wrong with it

#

what i normally do with stuff like that is point out my mistakes
then i put my drawing over the picture im referencing
then i fix proportions based on that

mossy leaf
#

I like criticising my work, helps me get a better idea on what i can do better next time

marble mantle
#

good
criticism and feedback is what helps us grow

velvet sun
#

hnghn im so mad rn my hand cramped

mossy leaf
#

holy damn the shading

#

I love how you can tell all the details of the hair by the colours

#

they look soo smooth

marble mantle
#

i will
never
ever
ever do hair that detailed
i dont have the patience or the skill

#

that looks really good

stuck robin
#

that looks amazing forsy SDVemoteheart

velvet sun
#

i tried to shade hair like that once before but didnt have the right brushes

#

now i do

marble mantle
#

what ive realized is that
the more detailed and realistic you go with stuff in art is the more precise youll have to be
and im not about that life

devout stream
#

everyones art is amazing also i love abigail

mossy leaf
#

Abigail is the ultimate best girl there is no competition

marble mantle
#

shane is best girl but ok

amber surge
mighty bronze
#

Alex is best girl, fite me SDVpufferangery

exotic snow
#

no Willy is

cosmic oasis
vernal nexus
warm finch
#

No nae is best girl-

mighty bronze
#

ok, I def agree with that

exotic snow
warm finch
#

I’m the finest of butterchefskissbeautiful

mossy leaf
#

be using geometric shapes to draw human faces better

grave sapphire
#

Does this look good, I based the art off a zoom in on the photo

mossy leaf
#

yeah it does look good!

#

the human sketch turned out better than I thought it would

#

doing the mouth was a pain

#

the original mouth

#

the old mouth looked like a zombie

mighty bronze
#

That's great but try using a 3d model to trace in the structure lines and then draw it free hand measuring the proportions, at least that's what I'm studying rn

exotic snow
#

i used to use 3d models too but they are too stiff for me bc most of my stuff is stylised i stopped after a few weeks

mighty bronze
#

After that ofc you're going to move on real models

exotic snow
#

i only used them for complex poses tho, and yeah

mossy leaf
#

using 3D models is convinent and useful but I feel like if I used them I would rely on them too much and wouldn't be able to do it without 3D models

#

I used to use 3D models to draw full poses but I stopped using them because I was relying on them too much and wasn't really improving my skills

blissful sonnet
velvet sun
#

:D

sly skiff
#

Any tips?

marble mantle
marble mantle
#

itll help with the planes

#

and one top for teeth
is to never draw them

#

teeth look creepy

#

just make one solid row and then break it up with the gum

#

you can make the canine or so a bit more pronounced

restive forge
blissful sonnet
sly skiff
#

Screw it, redesigning the face for the third time (I did also make the neck thinner)

#

I think I'm finally succeeding in making a proper face.

marble mantle
#

best way to solve this is to just do the body itself first

#

and then add the clothes later

sly skiff
#

Ah, I just copied and edited the clothing from the first version, so that's why I didn't think to line the new neck up, thanks for the tip!

spiral gale
#

is it just me, or is the ear a lil too high, too?

marble mantle
#

yeah its a bit high looking at it now

#

the tip of the ear usually falls a bit below the eyes

spiral gale
#

i actually came here to say:

#

i don't have proper fucking brushes and it's hard

#

AND THE WALL IS SO FUCKING HIGH UP I HAVE TO USE A LADDER BECAUSE IM LIKE 1 FOOT???? AT LEAST THATS WHAT I FEEL LIKE

marble mantle
#

maybe something like this

marble mantle
#

ive never understood how the brushes work in that program

spiral gale
#

no

#

fuck

#

dude its on a wall

marble mantle
#

:0

spiral gale
#

in real life

#

bro

#

i dont know the proper english word for that

#

isnt it brush??

#

PAINTBRUSH??

#

DUDE I HAVE LIKE A FUCKING 1€ SHITTY KID THING I CUT OFF TO HAVE AT LEAST SOMETHING TO WORK W

marble mantle
#

idk what youre doing
so maybe its brush
ive seen people use markers and stuff for walls as well

spiral gale
#

markers dont work lmao

#

if ur coloring it, it all goes into each other

#

im doinnnnnnnnng-

marble mantle
#

just gotta get the right markers

spiral gale
#

im literally just painting on walls

marble mantle
#

sounds fun

spiral gale
#

im so bored please

#

the whole morning we played switch

marble mantle
#

why are you drawing on walls?

spiral gale
#

why arent you?

marble mantle
#

cause i dont like traditional art

spiral gale
#

we have like a wood and metal room where ppl do shit but uhh

#

theres kids all over the place rn

marble mantle
#

sounds not fun

spiral gale
#

aaaaand i hate metal and wood is too full // no workbenches free

#

so i asked if my friend and me can go into the lil uhh

#

painter room next to metal

marble mantle
#

i loved metal work tho
was one of my fav subjects

spiral gale
#

and we could so we just vibe there

#

nobody looks after us, we can do what we want

marble mantle
#

sounds
not safe

spiral gale
#

sit there, play switch, play cards, draw

sly skiff
#

Completely ignores the conversation about art on wall I took in some of the feedback, any more?

marble mantle
#

dont you guys have big equipment and tools?

spiral gale
#

tape each other to the wall with yknow tape

#

no we dont lmfao

sly skiff
#

lol

marble mantle
spiral gale
#

I MEAN I GOT A SAW BUT I FOUND THAT AND IM OWNING THAT SHIT BRUH, ITS MINE NOW

marble mantle
#

im assuming his hair is in an up do

#

so you would see the forehead

spiral gale
#

yea faces are usually like uhhh

#

yknow this

#

urs is kinda |

sly skiff
#

The eyes have to be like about half of the head's height.

spiral gale
#

i dont know the actual word rn but u dont have eyesockets and
well
a forehead

#

id try and actually help but i suck shit at pixel art lmao

#

the face looks cool though, its just the head shape

spiral gale
#

i dont see what you changed but tiny man

sly skiff
#

oops, forgot to upscale again

#

This is V 2

#

The one Im doing now is V 3

spiral gale
#

hold on im super bad at showing what i mean

#

ill just draw it

sly skiff
#

The annoying thing is that when I draw visible eyesockets, the eyes just pop out way too much.

#

(v3 has really subtle socketas)

marble mantle
#

one thing about the nose
if youre going for a big nose
you need to make the nose big in terms of everything else on the face
so it still looks correct

spiral gale
#

YES THANK YOU NAE

#

i was abt to do that 😭

#

but like on paper

#

which wouldve sucked

#

so ty for not sucking

marble mantle
#

pffft
np

sly skiff
#

So I have to redo my nose again or have to redo other things again?

cosmic oasis
#

Nae doing gods work

restive forge
#

nae being very helpful 24/7

sly skiff
#

Btw, thanks to both of you for helping out so much

spiral gale
#

wouldnt it help if you would just make the face on another layer, hide it //lower the oppacity and focus on the head shape rn

outer garden
#

^

spiral gale
#

because thats the biggest issue

marble mantle
#

but what i did here was i raised the hairline a bit to give him a forehead
then i lowered the ear since the top of the ear usually falls right under the eyes
then i adjusted the position of the nose and mouth since the nose was too big to be anatomically correct
that led to me having more space to fit the mouth in the right place since he originally didnt have much of a chin
after that i kinda just adjusted the head shape [which you dont have to do in yours if thats the look you want] to make it a bit more anatomical

cosmic oasis
#

Try using references too

marble mantle
#

god damn mosquitoes in my ear making life all that much harder

#

god dammit

cosmic oasis
#

Ew mosquitos

marble mantle
#

what is that emoteee

spiral gale
#

which

marble mantle
spiral gale
#

wear headphones

marble mantle
#

oh damn i have it

spiral gale
marble mantle
#

my new favourite thing

spiral gale
#

yknow whats my favourite emote

cosmic oasis
#

Lakdsjjdkcjskcic

sly skiff
marble mantle
spiral gale
cosmic oasis
#

I wish I was but I’m not

cosmic oasis
spiral gale
#

sdfuhzgisdhdsahuisdaUHSDHDS???

marble mantle
spiral gale
marble mantle
#

didnt even realize i was making these edits right under my work

cosmic oasis
#

As I always say to myself “reference is key” i don’t know why but it helps me learn <3

spiral gale
#

dont just say that to urself thats a rule

marble mantle
#

what im working on btw

spiral gale
#

nae

#

your hands

#

hand them over rn

cosmic oasis
#

I know a lot of people that don’t use references because they think it’s copying or plagiarism

marble mantle
#

👐

#

i love using references

marble mantle
#

especially when im trying to draw a character of a certain race

#

since my style is more semi realistic i have to think about that stuff

sly skiff
spiral gale
#

if youre just plainass drawing over them, its copying, yeah, but even that helps for reference
just tell ppl that you used that ref and dont post it saying u did it all by urself

marble mantle
spiral gale
#

i use references all the time

#

i used them?? since forever?? and it rlly rlly rlly helped me and my artstyle

cosmic oasis
#

I use references to learn anatomy other then that it’s probably me experimenting

spiral gale
#

for example uhh

#

this kinda shit? i didnt knew how to even start w the pose so references helped alot lol

cosmic oasis
#

Brooo thats so good!

spiral gale
#

i love my russian idiot,

marble mantle
#

what im mainly focusing on rn is stylizing real people
so like
keeping features and expressions while making it my style
so reference are very important

spiral gale
#

yes

cosmic oasis
#

I’m incapable of using real people as reference

marble mantle
#

god dammit
i flipped my canvas nwo i want to cry

cosmic oasis
#

I hate flipping the canvas

marble mantle
spiral gale
#

unflip

marble mantle
#

thats the best kinda reference to use

spiral gale
#

MY MOM STOLE MY COLA

cosmic oasis
#

I literally cannot use them because too many details hurt my brain

spiral gale
#

then dont yknow

#

make that many details

marble mantle
#

i try to never use art as a reference for stuff like posing and shit
cause artists are people too and they make mistakes
learning stuff like anatomy purely from other artists will just lead to you learning their mistakes

spiral gale
#

just the important ones

marble mantle
#

or youll end up just stylizing things without knowing why or how they stylized it

spiral gale
#

||SCbirthday||

marble mantle
sly skiff
#

1-10 how good is the chin?

spiral gale
#

6.8

#

👀

sly skiff
#

... With that 45* angle??

spiral gale
#

certainly looks better than before

marble mantle
cosmic oasis
#

I’m still mad my dad didn’t get me a new charger when I told him to order it weeks ago like dude I need to finish that animation please-

sly skiff
#

Would you guys/gals/whatever consider this good enough?

spiral gale
#

nae can ur bigbrain help me w something specific im struggling w since 2 years

sly skiff
spiral gale
#

finds pic

sly skiff
#

rlelliMarxBar yey

marble mantle
#

if i stop replying its because the mosquitoes flew away with me

sly skiff
#

LOL

cosmic oasis
#

NOOOOO NAE COME BACK

marble mantle
#

theres literally like
30 dead mosquitoes beside me

spiral gale
#

okay so how the actual FUCK do you draw chins from this angle
Or like in general when u see the chin from the bottom
because i cannot
and im dying ever since, everything i ever tried fucked me over and im at a loss ;;;;;;;

marble mantle
#

thankfully i have this tennis racket zapping thingy so i can shock em to death

cosmic oasis
#

Why do mosquitoes exist like just don’t ❤️

spiral gale
#

i cant even try tracing over because that looks shit too

marble mantle
#

ah
thats a tricky angle

marble mantle
#

because youre gonna end up seeing a lot of under the chin

#

gimme a sec to draw over the ref

spiral gale
#

wait i have more

cosmic oasis
#

Head angles definitely are hard that’s why I never really do em :/

spiral gale
#

this too lmfao
no idea how

#

why do chins hate me

cosmic oasis
#

In this situation it might be detail that helps

spiral gale
#

im not good w detail bc of my artstyle

cosmic oasis
#

I rarely ever do details most of my things are flat colors and simple

spiral gale
#

my coloring is just rlly rlly sloppy uhhh

#

blending
hold on

#

i dont understand why ppl like that

#

like fr

sly skiff
#

I have the tendency to go all simple, but only know how to do realistic-ish eyes which makes all my faces look weird after I added the eyes.

spiral gale
#

please explain its just me using a brush

cosmic oasis
#

My friend knows how to draw from the bottom up 👀

spiral gale
#

actually a thing some1 told me, if you do the eyes first, then the nose and then the mouth its easier toposition

marble mantle
#

now i just simplify everything

spiral gale
#

YEAH BUT

#

THATS NOT THE PROBLEM

#

THE PROBLEM IS IF ITS TOO DETAILED YOU CANT SEE SHIT BC I WORK SO SLOPPY

marble mantle
#

from what i can tell
the chin ends at the green line
but because of the angle
youre gonna see a lot of under the chin
thats the red shaded bit

spiral gale
marble mantle
#

it just looks awkward cause i suck at angles like this
but thats basically what it is

spiral gale
#

looks squishy

marble mantle
#

just gotta think of the head as like
3d

spiral gale
#

wait doesnt it go uhh

marble mantle
#

so theres gonna be some sections under
some on the side
some on the top

cosmic oasis
#

Use a 3D model to see how everything looks in a certain angle

#

Ight i gtg work my shift is on

#

Bye guys

spiral gale
#

this is what i see

#

which fucks me over i think

sly skiff
#

Also I have identified another problem in my drawing of faces... I always try to incorperate the nose in the outline when it's got like 37* before the nose would have any impact- Wait what's with the foto of this guy?

spiral gale
#

pls dont start w 3d or im melting

marble mantle
#

one of the first things i normally do with refs like these is just brighten the shadows
so i can actually see the planes and curves

spiral gale
#

how tf

#

you know i use sai waaaaaaaa

marble mantle
spiral gale
marble mantle
spiral gale
#

i might try that again sometime

marble mantle
#

its the level correction thing

spiral gale
#

can i just

spiral gale
#

thanks thats all

#

||oOoOO||

spiral gale
marble mantle
#

oOoOO

#

lemme check if sai has it rq

spiral gale
#

i love his name and he reminds me of my best friends main oc waaaaaaaa

marble mantle
#

ok i checked
sai only has brightness and contrast

#

which can work

spiral gale
#

how the fuck did you open that and why is it dark for you

#

if thats actually still sai

mighty bronze
#

I... haven't thought I'll be using the soft eraser so much in my entire damn life...

marble mantle
#

oh no its not sai
i have sai on my other pc

#

for sai its in filter

#

then colour adjustments

#

then brightness and contrast

spiral gale
mighty bronze
#

lol

marble mantle
#

this is the shape of it

#

and it has pressure opacity on

mighty bronze
#

wait

marble mantle
#

its great for when im sketching

mighty bronze
#

now I can see the shape of the brush in csp?

spiral gale
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i use these two failures as my erasers

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because I don't

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its a part of the new update

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you have to change it yourself

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groans in i want csp but no paypal

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@spiral galethis looks like the angle you were going for

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for the first one

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why are there two men kissing in the corner

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that underside is gonna be in shadow

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nae

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answers now

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ghdfngh

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THE EMOTE NAME

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its lin manuel miranda nad matthew morrison

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im dead

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he reminds me of tony start

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the only two men ever

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SKARL

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TONY STARK

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cool i wanna draw tony and loki now

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fuck sosad

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this looks like the angle of the second pic

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where are u getting this from

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i think i used to get 3d furry heads from that site lol

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best head for planes ever

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I would kiss it

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the left side is a less detailed version of the planes and the right side contains most of the planes

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thank you ily

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i have a question
can yall open your last colored work and hide the lineart layer and just send the colors please

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im begging

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thinking about how i cant do that cause everything is merged

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be happy

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HOLD ON I HAVE THE WORST THINGS

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pffft
the looks cursed ngl

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my worst one was

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wheeew

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but yeah i normally just sketch
add base colours
and merge so i cant really send the colours without the lines

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scrolls

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scrolls more

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contemplating doing lineart again

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this thing

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how does this look

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hot

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do eyes have eyes in the eye to see

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nae did u fill in the pupil SCsmug

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OH ACTUALLY I FUCKING CAME HERE TO ASK SOMETHING ENTIRELY DIFFERENT

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does anyone know what this art style is called?? like is it just painting or???? and does anyone have more tutorials / tips for it or brushes for sai

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i rlly wanna try but i cant if i dont find tutorials for it

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thats just semi realism

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a bit like what i do but more
realism

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and you can honestly use any brush for that style

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i bet you can use just the default round brush

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if you're skilled enough ACOSP_Woke

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i wouldve used the brush i normally shade w

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which is just my lineart brush in big

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i recommend a brush with a bit of colour mixing