#creative-discussion

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indigo sequoia
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Yeah I was using a palette as well I got the tubes after my cool colors ran out -3-

solid stag
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theres programs that do paint physics, but theyre really expensive

indigo sequoia
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But tbh I like tubes better already they provide better intensity and are easier to use

blissful sonnet
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No clue but it must be a glitch since it keeps breaking the folder ahh

indigo sequoia
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I need some advice SDVpufferwoke

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I have decided that I want to start profiting from my art probably by selling it online after i get the things necessary together

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Which would probably be very hard considering I really dislike social media

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But you gotta do what you gotta do

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Do you guys think I should focus on instagram (I don’t like, it’s starting to give off Facebook vibes too 😐) or tik tok (which I don’t like either and have no experience in but seems to be easier for gaining audience)

warm finch
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write a TOS to protect yourself from scammers

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you can always consider twitter

indigo sequoia
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:0

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Twitter

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I never used Twitter before

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But good idea

solid stag
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twitter is a hellscape though, be really careful what you post

calm tiger
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My first serious attempt at painting a background.

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Meant to be a webby cave.

solid stag
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oooh nice

calm tiger
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I had no idea what I was doing. I was just randomly slapping paint around until it worked.

indigo sequoia
solid stag
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twitter is like 2014 tumblr tbh, if you want more reach i suggest tumblr though

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its calmed down a lot since the ban

indigo sequoia
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Also tbh I don’t really like the idea of commissions and I don’t know how well I could make educational videos my vocab wack and brain empty sometimes

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I just like creating whatever art I want and put it out there for whoever interested

solid stag
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ive gotten over 100 notes on one off posts, you can get pretty good reach if those posts are consistent

indigo sequoia
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But I think that’s the longest way to profiting since it would take a while for enough people to find me and actually get interested in my personal art pieces

solid stag
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tumblr is good for that

solid stag
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tumblr has the best tagging system out of all social media sites so its easy to tag things

indigo sequoia
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Tumblr y not

solid stag
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tumblr also has funnier posts

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and it doesnt show follower counts either which is really nice

indigo sequoia
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Yeah it seems more chill than usual social media too

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I forgot it exists

solid stag
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thats only because of the nsfw ban back in 2018

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tumblr has historically had the worst drama

indigo sequoia
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well, cough good riddance cough

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Not a fan of nsfw anyway

indigo sequoia
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I barely know anything about it only because it’s not popular where I live

solid stag
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theres also vk, but thats european and im in america

royal gyro
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i think i get the most attention from art-specific groups on facebook, sometimes posts on instagram and sub-reddits.

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i also sell via etsy but im not sure if any sales came from any sort of etsy searchings so far.

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weirdly my etsy stats says 65% of my traffic to my shop is direct and "other", rather than from social media or etsy. only 18% is from etsy itself.

kindred scaffold
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Tumblr can let you filter tags, which is really nice. I was more sites did that. (Even though things can still slip through the cracks.)

calm tiger
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Tumblr's layout is too confusing for me.

solid stag
royal gyro
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(i'm very niche though being miniaturist art based)

marble mantle
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advertise everywhere

indigo sequoia
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Gotcha

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This going to be interesting 😩

indigo sequoia
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Nooo tumblr app is banned in my country

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I can use the website but it’s not as practical

marble mantle
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trying out lineart cause my sketch is ugly
i normally just sketch then render
but thats not gonna work for this

solid stag
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may i suggest using a vector layer for lineart

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it makes it so much easier

marble mantle
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ah yeah ik

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im not looking for super clean lineart hto

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just cleaner than the sketch

exotic snow
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i do 90% of my lineart with vector layers, the only flaw i would say is when you erase your lines and the ends of the lines gets 'autocorrected'

marble mantle
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vector layers would end up being more of a pain

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ive tested them out before

solid stag
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you can rasterize them

exotic snow
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so yeah, now i do lineart on just normal layers

marble mantle
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ik you can rasterize

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but like

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i just find them more annoying than anything

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i can see how itll be useful if youre going for super clean crispy lineart

exotic snow
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vector layer lineart would be useful for e.g. animation etc. though

solid stag
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i found that using the transparent version of the brush youre using for lineart is good for correcting the ends

exotic snow
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good point ^

solid stag
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im a lineart person, i cannot live with messy edges

marble mantle
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i like it more than using an eraser

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im not big on clean lineart

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nothing too clean for me

exotic snow
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me too, i never not do lineart but lately ive been trying to make it the way i really want them to be

marble mantle
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i like a little bit of grit

exotic snow
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i found my stuff to be too clean

marble mantle
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like this
this is by likelihood on insta

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i mean
Nothing is wrong with super clean lines
ive seen people pull it off
just not my style

exotic snow
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ooo yeah i like their art too

solid stag
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thats pretty clean

marble mantle
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eh

exotic snow
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the lineart is pretty gritty if you ask me

marble mantle
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^

exotic snow
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my lineart used to look like this, which is too clean imo

solid stag
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its in a painted style, the lines are also softer because theyre colored

marble mantle
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daaamn

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that hand

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not what we're talking about but damn

exotic snow
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sajdlkas

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this piece was actually part of my not too good art

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but thanks!

solid stag
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ive seen ultra clean lineart, most artists who have "grit" have clean lines. clean lines dont mean smooth lines

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at least the ones youre talking about

exotic snow
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imo for your piece to look good you need clean lines anyway

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the amount of texturing however you can vary

marble mantle
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nah
ive seen some really messy stuff

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ust gotta know what youre doing

exotic snow
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messy but like, clean

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i dont know if im making sense

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messy in a way that makes sense

solid stag
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i was just suggesting something but to each their own

marble mantle
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this is from sam does art on insta
his stuff is messy
but its really well done cause he knows how to make messy look good

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a lot of the artists i follow have messier styles

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thats my goal

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messy art with lots of energy
but still have it look hot

solid stag
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i follow sinix and borodante mostly

gloomy turtle
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sinix is great

solid stag
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i follow a bunch of russian artists too

marble mantle
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borodante has nice art
just doesnt paint stuff im particularly interested in

solid stag
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this is by senyalulz on tumblr

marble mantle
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i like sinix alot too

solid stag
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these are by qutiesickening on tumblr

marble mantle
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i dont really like art styles like that

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a bit too stylized for my tastes

solid stag
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i love stylized pieces

exotic snow
solid stag
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strong shape language and vibrant colors make me :)

marble mantle
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its nice to look at
at times
but i dont see myself drawing like that for my main art style

exotic snow
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vibrant colours SDVpufferchicksweatsip

marble mantle
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i love
desaturated stuff

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but also i like vibrant stuff

exotic snow
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i need to be in a certain mood to be able to appreciate bright colours askskksk but thats JUST ME

marble mantle
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i lean more to desaturated tho

exotic snow
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i like my art looking dead SDVpufferwoke

marble mantle
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most times when im doing art for comms i just
colour pick from the reference

solid stag
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thats fair, when i think desaturated i think tim burton

marble mantle
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then i bump down the saturation a bit

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when i think desaturated i think emilyena

exotic snow
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i like their art

marble mantle
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ayeeee

solid stag
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i love emilyena

marble mantle
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shes my main inspiration

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literally my desktop wallpaper

solid stag
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she works a lot with saturated colors, but theyre limited to a few things

marble mantle
exotic snow
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amazing.

marble mantle
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she does?

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i dont think she
her skintones are literally just
grey

solid stag
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the grammas video her art is a lot more vibrant

marble mantle
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or grey with a lil pink tint

exotic snow
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the veins... the subsurface scattering... mwah..

marble mantle
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the veeeinss

exotic snow
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yeah, basically dead skin with areas where the skin is thinner so the blood shows through

solid stag
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theyre focal points though, the rest arent too bright

marble mantle
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her sailor moon pieces are probably my fav tho

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always will be

exotic snow
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looking at her art makes me feel alive

marble mantle
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^^

solid stag
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i love it too

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im honestly jealous of her painting skills

marble mantle
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never seen steven universe but this makes me want to watch it

marble mantle
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i even bought the full daub brushset

exotic snow
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how does one use all those brushes

marble mantle
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you dont

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i havent even touched half of them yet

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its over 500

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and i have another 800 lying around

exotic snow
marble mantle
gloomy turtle
marble mantle
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unrelated but peanut butter and jelly actually tastes really bad
im trying it for the first time rn

solid stag
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these are by artdunk on tumblr

marble mantle
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those lines remind me of frenden

solid stag
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this is the type of painting style i like

exotic snow
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ok ngl, i have tried to use all my juicy textured brushes in my art before but now-...

i just stick with my 6 best bois, for consistency

exotic snow
solid stag
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they only use the csp default oil brushes

marble mantle
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i have a set of brushes that i use for everything
but every now and then i like to branch out and just
randomly use all the ones ive bought

solid stag
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they have a lot of oil pastel art that looks amazing

marble mantle
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just reminds me of those type of lines

exotic snow
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oooo this reminds me of the pencil lineart pen i use

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niiiice and juicy

marble mantle
outer garden
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i like Angela He
She makes games sometimes

solid stag
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more homestuck but this is by steakbatter on tumblr

marble mantle
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ooo
i like the hair and how its rendered

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the only artist that has vibrant colours that i really like and keep up with is scribs

solid stag
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heres someone with super clean lines, claranormalactivity on tumblr and ghoststeak on twitter

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im more of a twitter or tumblr artist because i love to look at lots of different styles and instagram has a lot of similar styles imo

marble mantle
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idk what kinda artist i am

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i only post on twitter cause its less shitty than insta

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and i always just
Forget to post elsewhere

solid stag
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mood

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for me clean and messy are more attributed to experience with the style

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a messy art style to me is more an unconsious choice (unless youre not even like dust wtf)

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or the artist who made johnny flesh

marble mantle
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unconsious?

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i think most artists with messy artstyles choose to have a messy art style

indigo sequoia
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Depends I guess

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Some people struggle to get clean lines so they just don’t bother

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Or they prefer the look that way

solid stag
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these are by the same artist who made johnny flesh

indigo sequoia
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I struggle more to make my lines messier sometimes even when I try lol

indigo sequoia
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I keep finding myself refining the lines

exotic snow
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sometimes i feel like you just gotta not care and do some drunk lines

marble mantle
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that was me when i worked in sai

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i had to have
clean perfect lines

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then i popped in to csp
and stopped doing lineart in general
now im popping into it again
but a more sketching lineart
ig its a lot easier then youre not used to doing lineart

solid stag
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i want to try lasso painting because it looks easier for me than regular painting

marble mantle
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ah

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lasso painting is cool

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i use the lasso tool to add shadows
or atleast i try to

exotic snow
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lasso painting?

solid stag
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using the lasso tool to shade a painting

marble mantle
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yeah
you basically just lasso the areas you want to be a certain colour

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devin does it well

exotic snow
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oh so literally lasso painting lol

solid stag
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devin? whats his handle

marble mantle
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shrug

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name is devin elle kurtis tho

solid stag
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mmm tastey

marble mantle
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i have a whole bunch of timelapses and stuff saved

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hat i just
Look at from time to time

solid stag
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i lean to stylized artworks because i dont see the point of realism in animation specifically

ripe compass
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Ur drawings look so cool

marble mantle
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those arent my art-

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theyre from artists i follow

solid stag
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animation ages better when stylized

marble mantle
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most professional artists ik that do animation have a solid background in anatomy

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it helps a lot with stylizing

ripe compass
solid stag
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alberto mielgo is my favorite artist

marble mantle
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my work before and after i learn about planes and actual anatomy is just
so much better

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even tho im not doing realism

solid stag
marble mantle
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this is from love death robots
stylized af
but you can still see the basic fundamentals present in this work

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god dammit
now i want to rewatch

solid stag
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yeah, alberto mielgo worked on love death + robots as well

topaz harbor
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I'm just here saving some of these as inspo haha

marble mantle
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no idea who that is

marble mantle
solid stag
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he also worked on spiderverse

marble mantle
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i dont like spiderverse

solid stag
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he was the lead character designer

marble mantle
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not my kinda stuff

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but its really pretty

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for the art alone i watched

solid stag
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alberto mielgo was the lead character designer and you can see his style in the witness

marble mantle
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pog

solid stag
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i love the comic book textures on the models of spiderverse characters

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the halftones are 👌

marble mantle
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yeah its nice to look at

topaz harbor
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i like columbo's style

marble mantle
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https://naedoesart.uwu.ai/# psst
i would love to have some eyes on my website
ignore the lack of art and repeated examples
therye just place holders
just want a second opinions on the loaybout itself

art by nae

The official professional website of Nae. Here you can find her portfolio, commission info and merch store.

topaz harbor
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maybe i could try making my eyes smaller and lips more defined

solid stag
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ohhh

topaz harbor
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I'm so worried about staying true to the reference anime nowadays

marble mantle
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i like smaller eyes in art

lament turtle
marble mantle
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im not a big fan of those big anime eyes

marble mantle
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ive been fiddling with the layout for a long time now

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its been months by now
i dont think im gonna ever finish this haley

solid stag
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these are background stills from akira

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i love this style so much

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i like the vibrant colors with a gritty landscape and story, dystopian cyberpunk shit

marble mantle
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@solid stagcan i see your art?

solid stag
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sure, though i havent finished anything recently

marble mantle
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ah

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nice lines

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and nice sketches

solid stag
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thank you

marble mantle
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ive always wanted to try sketching with colours and stuff

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but then halfway through the sketch i forget that i was planning to use a colour and i just get lazy

solid stag
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i do it because it makes seeing my line layer easier

marble mantle
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yeah

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ig im just a masochist

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what im working on

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the struggle is fun ig
and it helps me to not rely on my sketch too much when im rendering

solid stag
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i sketch very quickly

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those are my fleshed out sketches, ready for lineart

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i dont get super attached to my sketch anymore because i do it so quickly, i flesh out the drawing during lineart rather than before

marble mantle
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when i just started out i had to make sure my sketches were refined before i could start working

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hell i still have the speedpaints up..

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i love going back adn watching them just to see how different my art is

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my work used to be so stylized its crazy

solid stag
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wow

marble mantle
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god

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that nose

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the sideways facing nose

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on a front view face

golden sigil
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I mean more realistic is cool but for me I try to keep my art somewhat stylized

solid stag
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this is what my art looked like early 2019

golden sigil
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like... big eyes CS_pepeLmfao

solid stag
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i really dislike the soft shading now

marble mantle
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i dont think ive ever done soft shading

solid stag
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this was also when i switched to csp as my main program

marble mantle
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i went from cell shading to just straight up painting

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i used to hate csp when i just started using it

golden sigil
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used to exclusively do soft shading

marble mantle
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cause i was so used to crispy lineart and stuff like that

golden sigil
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like literally early 2017 when I first got ahold of a phone

solid stag
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i uhh. dont shade my works very often

marble mantle
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and i just
couldnt for whatver reason pull it off in csp

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damn

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you guys started early

golden sigil
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I need to redraw that ngl

marble mantle
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i didnt get into digital art until septemebr of last year

solid stag
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i started 2017 as well

marble mantle
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ngl kinda cute

solid stag
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that piece was a redraw of this

marble mantle
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ive never tried doing anthro or feral character

solid stag
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considering you went from that to what you draw now im impressed

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you learned fast

marble mantle
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i deleted most of my old art

golden sigil
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when I played animal jam I used to do exclusively anthro and feral.

marble mantle
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i couldnt stand to look at it

golden sigil
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these are both AJ commissions lmfao

marble mantle
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all the mistakes i could spot just dove me crazy
but it was fun to see myself improve like that

solid stag
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ive been drawing anthros and furries since i was a kid

marble mantle
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mayve i can find some old art on the internet

unborn hull
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hey thats really good art SDVpufferthumbsup

solid stag
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i have trouble with paws. fuck paws

marble mantle
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god bless
this is back when i started trying to use more realistic anatomy

solid stag
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hims hands small

marble mantle
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im surprised so many of these are still on the internet
jeez

golden sigil
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this is the oldest drawing I own. Its probably from early or mid 2016 (date was added years after so its definitely not accurate)

marble mantle
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also wtf someones selling a mask

solid stag
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i have an old da account that holds my first "painting"

marble mantle
golden sigil
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notice the big eyes ACOSP_lmao

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Seems to be a common theme huh

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maybe its because I ✨ like them ✨

solid stag
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anime fucking ruined my style

golden sigil
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I'm still very salty about that blatant insult from earlier as you can tell hdhjfjdjk

solid stag
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i would draw huge eyes on my characters and i just never fucking stopped

marble mantle
golden sigil
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I just like the way big eyes look personally

marble mantle
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muah

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im glad my art isnt at all inspired by anime

solid stag
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this is super old, 2018

golden sigil
solid stag
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god its so wonky

golden sigil
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My art is more inspired by western cartoons than anime. I like those a lot more

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like of I draw cartoony you can def see the inspo

golden sigil
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I just usually try to draw more impressionistic now wouldn't call it realism lmfao

marble mantle
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idk why my watermark used to be so fucking tiny

golden sigil
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oh what there was a signature there lmao

marble mantle
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one of the first times i drew shane

solid stag
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heres my attempt at more proportional facial features months ago

marble mantle
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and also attempted "painting"

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hey thats really good

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damn
why did anyone pay me money for this crap

golden sigil
marble mantle
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this piece was the first thing i coloured in csp

golden sigil
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awww thats cute

marble mantle
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and thats when my art turned around

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i think i have a redraw of that somewhere

solid stag
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i never finished this, it was supposed to be a fleetwood mac parody cover album

marble mantle
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crispy lines

solid stag
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yessd

marble mantle
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used to be one of my favs

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cause i used to love thin lines

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but damn
its so crap

solid stag
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this isnt my art but i love this kind of style, this is by hardpee on tumblr

golden sigil
marble mantle
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when i finally decided to just
learn art the proper way

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instead of doing the wrong thing over and over

solid stag
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BAHAHA

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the sketches on the side are brilliant

marble mantle
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now to search the entire internet to find the finished version of that redraw

golden sigil
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I always post mine on discord and nowhere else so most of my art gets lost if a server I'm in decides to nuke the art channel for no reason (which has happened before)

solid stag
golden sigil
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ah lmao

marble mantle
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my art went through so many phases

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jesus

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i was working on a whole universe for these peopel

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kinda forgot about it...

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even had a website

solid stag
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this was done in july, the other was done in august i believe

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and as you can see. my shading isnt that great

marble mantle
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looks fine to me

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i like the hair

solid stag
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my eye shading is super minimal even though theyre the largest feature on the face in my style

marble mantle
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the completed version is forever lost

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this was going to be the greated thing ive ever painted

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i spent so much time on the clouds

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then boom csp crashed while i was trying to save

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and i never looked back

solid stag
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you wanna see crispy lines?

marble mantle
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damn

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crispy

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reminds me of my friend tina

solid stag
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i did this in firealpaca

marble mantle
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hey i used to use fire alpaca

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before i ditched it for sai

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then ditched sai for csp

solid stag
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god i love your sub view pictures

marble mantle
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pffft

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i love having funny pics in it

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tina [goes by tnr] has some of the most crispy lines ive ever seen

solid stag
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ooo

marble mantle
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damn crispy

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she said that learning how to ink traditionally really helped with her digital inking

solid stag
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those are very nice lines

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they look very traditional

golden sigil
marble mantle
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my csp workspace has been through a lot

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this is the one ive settled on tho
only the important stuff
and then i get to have my ref in a new window at the side

solid stag
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i just use the default workspace with minor adjustments

marble mantle
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the default one has a lot of stuff i dont need

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and doesnt have some stuff that i do need

solid stag
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mmm

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im leaving school now, when i get back can i send a friend request

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ive enjoyed our conversation a lot

marble mantle
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go for it

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the more artist friends the better

solid stag
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nice

mighty bronze
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Imagine a big iceberg on the water surface and under it's a 10x bigger one, the surface is how much I know about CSP capacity

marble mantle
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mood

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i dont need to know much about csp tho

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i just want to know what i need to to paint

solid stag
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blender is similar but only in the iceberg sense

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blender is so fucking powerful but 80% of blender you dont need to know for modeling

ripe compass
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Does anyone have some tips on having CRISP clean lineart that doesn’t look stiff

solid stag
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i just had a really cool idea for an art piece: a computer tower that uses living tissue and organs to function and it has a cutaway that shows the inside of the computer tower

south matrix
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I mean, I like thick, cartoony, expressive lines. Other people like something very thin and "this was done with a superfine inking pen and scaled down" vibe, and the tips given for these two would literally conflict terribly

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So what does 'stiff' look like, and what's the vibe you're going for?

solid stag
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oh yeah, traditional art exists too

ripe compass
# solid stag stiff? example

I don’t have any visual examples but when I try to overline my sketch it always ends up completely different from what it looked like before.

solid stag
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example of your art?

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that counts as a visual example

ripe compass
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Oh sick hold on

solid stag
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i am the crisp line art expert

ripe compass
solid stag
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and a sketch?

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do you not know how to export an image

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?

ripe compass
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I do I just took it on snap lol

solid stag
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ah

ripe compass
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I found a better example

solid stag
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i like the style, the lines look fine to me

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theyre not stiff, theyre wonky

ripe compass
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Wdym by wonky?

south matrix
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Probably like, the variability of the lineweight that the brush you're using gives?

solid stag
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the movement of the lines is nice, but the crisp quality youre looking for comes from high resolution images. whats your canvas size typically?

south matrix
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I'd suggest looking at Hej!Stylus to help with brushstroke stabilization, seeing as you're using a mac

solid stag
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also, youre using firealpaca, which has a stabilizer/smoothing function and that greatly helps with line control

ripe compass
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Let me check canvas size real quick

solid stag
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i dont use mac so idk anything about programs but i do know that firealpaca already has a built in stabilizer

south matrix
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I used to use macs, and hej! was a great discovery for me at the time

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I use Lazy Nezumi now that I've moved onto windows, but the principle is the same

solid stag
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leslielu marie uses a mac in her early videos of firealpaca

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do you use a mouse?

south matrix
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If you want more control over how your lines feel, I'd also switch from the kinda brush you're using which has a built in texture, and go for one that's more or less just a regular round/oval brush

solid stag
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some round brushes will leave artifacts like that if the lines arent confident

ripe compass
solid stag
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i was asking lisk that question

ripe compass
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Whoops lol

solid stag
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ah, thats a really low resolution

ripe compass
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What would be a better one?

south matrix
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if you like low res/small images meant only to be seen on a computer screen, you might wanna consider a chunkier line and varying your lineweight

solid stag
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also using a round brush gives you those sort of textured lines that dont look as crisp as the look you might be going for

south matrix
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in a place where you'd have more shadow, or where there's a big difference in foreground/background where things overlap, the line can be thicker, etc.

ripe compass
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When do I know when to vary my line weight?

solid stag
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it comes with practice

south matrix
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you can also overdraw your lines, making them thicker, then use the eraser to thin them out manually

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here's a simple example of varying lineweights with a low res image and chunky lines

solid stag
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^^ dont be afraid to use the eraser tool, this isnt like traditional art where you make a line and its done

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i love pixel lines

south matrix
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ty!

ripe compass
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That’s rlly cute

solid stag
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but thats aliased isnt it?

south matrix
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to get the really shap edges, I have to overdraw and then erase for the sharp points

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Yeah, the brown one was aliased

ripe compass
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So over draw and then use the eraser to have sharper lines?

south matrix
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You could experiment to see if it works for you!

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Also like, for fiddly/small linework like jewelry pieces, you can like

solid stag
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heres just some lines i did

south matrix
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use a thick line and then erase the inside where the string would be

solid stag
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its super high res though, i work in the 4000 pixel range

south matrix
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super cute!

ripe compass
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I see what you guys are talking about when it comes to line weight

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Ok this makes some sense :D

south matrix
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you can also experiment with lines too

ripe compass
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With the weight of the lines or how I draw them?

south matrix
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this one I tried something completely different than usual, and used a super small brush and sketched the lines, putting shading into the linework itself

solid stag
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this was made using a uniform brush, i erased all of the sharp edges by hand

ripe compass
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What the heck your artworks are so coool

south matrix
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Tyyyy!

solid stag
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ive been doing digital art for a long time, youll get better as you go on

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it took me a while to learn how to do linework like this

south matrix
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Also if you like the dreamy feel that a sketch has, and crisp lines don't work for you, you can lower the opacity of your brush and redraw the line several times, then erase the stray lines like if you were sketching with pencil

solid stag
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i see homestuck

south matrix
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You do!

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It's from years ago

solid stag
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neuron activated

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awww

south matrix
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xD

ripe compass
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Lol

south matrix
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It's how I met my wife so

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definitely still nostalgic

solid stag
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aww nice

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i have a couple fantrolls

south matrix
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I had over 130 back in the day

ripe compass
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I CANT WAIT to go draw now!!! Thanks guys :D

south matrix
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You're super welcome!!!

solid stag
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hirudo being my favorite, hes a jadeblood theif of blood who controls a large portion of earth c's medical industry both human and troll

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his timeline is an alternate candy timeline

south matrix
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I was part of an IRC community, so we did live text chat RP as if our characters were on a live text chat together, so. It was conducive to having lots of people pop in only occasionally.

solid stag
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im just kinda here vibing with my fantrolls

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i dont really interact with the fandom cause. its still kinda bad

south matrix
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oh, and here's one last piece of mostly a single-size brush that I erased down a lil

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Note the shadowed portions of the braids being left literally black

solid stag
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i love that

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spooks

south matrix
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Sometimes a goat just wants to wear a jack-o'-lantern hat!

solid stag
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yee

south matrix
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another example of a mostly normal boring round brush with just a touch of texture on it, and again, erasing the ends to vary the lineweight just a touch

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oof you can really see how lazy I was with my masking there

solid stag
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i drew this ages ago but i still like it

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yes its jade

south matrix
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Oooh, it's lovely!

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I always loved high resolution artists. I can't make myself do it because like, I obsess, and a small canvas is easier to let go on, but like

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being able to use multiple! lineweights! in just one image!!!

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having so much room for detail!

solid stag
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im so used to high res art that going for low res makes me anxious

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heres another i did around that time

south matrix
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TOTALLY fair

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oooh, I love it

solid stag
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i have a favorite troll

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this was a sketch i think? i think i did lineart but i lowered the opacity a lot

south matrix
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love it

marble mantle
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but besides that god tier program
from what ive seen
best way to get not stiff looking lineart is to make sure your sketch itself is nice and loose because as you refine a work itll start to stiffen up

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line weight variation and deep shadows can help alot as well

solid stag
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heres more art i never finished

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i really like the soft quality of this lineart though

marble mantle
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soft????????

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that lineart sharp and crispy

solid stag
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its soft for me lol

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compared to some of my other stuff though

south matrix
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It's sharp where the fur is pointy, but look at that NOSEY

royal gyro
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Forbidden candy/prismatic shard

marble mantle
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i like the nose alot

solid stag
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i love drawing noses

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heres a meme drawing

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pixel

marble mantle
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main reason i dont like most anime style is the lack of noses

solid stag
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i like certain anime styles, kaiji comes to mind

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kaiji is an older manga so the style is a bit different than other 2010 anime

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but kaiji is like. 60% nose

marble mantle
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pfffft

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but yeah i agree
thats why i say most
theres some that do include thenoses and dont have massive shiny eyes

solid stag
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berserk

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guts my beloved

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i actually do like some anime styles with the typical anime features

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usually because they do something different with their design or story that make me more interested to watch it

marble mantle
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im not a big anime fan in general

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but damn

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the generic big over detailed no nose tiny lips big head style is just

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not my thing

solid stag
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the moe style

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thats really common in modern anime

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land of the lustrous (houseki no kuni) is a beautiful manga because of the simple style and the use of negative space in the panels

royal gyro
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Some resin minerals I just made

marble mantle
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ah nice

solid stag
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heres some early manga panels

marble mantle
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never used resin

solid stag
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also those look nice

royal gyro
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Made the things for casts, made the moulds, still playing with the colours

solid stag
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but how the artist uses negative space is so stunning

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the characters are a bit bland but everything else is stunning

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WAIT IS IT FINALLY DONE

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IS IT FINALLY DONE

old cypress
royal gyro
marble mantle
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im not a big fan of comic b & w styles like that

solid stag
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ive been following this manga for years now

devout stream
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abby & my farmer in swimsuits. really proud of this so far 👌

young nymph
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you're all so talented, keep it up

silver relic
lament turtle
indigo sequoia
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What is my art anymore SDVpufferblargh

indigo sequoia
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Experimenting with wet on wet effects

topaz harbor
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hi can i get suggestions for my lineart? also pls be gentle thanks im trying something new with my style ^^

indigo sequoia
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Try more variety in the line weight

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It wouldn’t look as flat

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Simple example

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Generally you want heavier lines in places where there’s more shadow or you want a part of something to be more pronounced than the rest

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Like the edge of the jaw and chin

mighty bronze
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!!!

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Super cool portrait tho

topaz harbor
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Ok! I'll try. I think I'm having trouble with that because my brush stays the same weight no matter what. Thanks SDVjunimolove

outer garden
indigo sequoia
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There are some yt videos on the matter

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Good luck SDVwizardXD

indigo sequoia
outer garden
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Brand

indigo sequoia
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Winsor & Newton

outer garden
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Oo those are nice

indigo sequoia
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Yeah

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They last a long time too

outer garden
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I haven't found a use for salt yet but it can give a really pretty effect

indigo sequoia
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I didn’t use salt in the ones I just did btw if you mean that

outer garden
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:')
I use the.....
St Petersburg I think
They're expensive but the quality is good

outer garden
indigo sequoia
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Yeah I see it too

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You reminded me of experimenting with salt

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Guess I’ll do that next:’)

outer garden
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Good luck :') the drying time can kill it sometimes

indigo sequoia
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Maybe it didn’t work last time I didn’t because I adjusted the paint a bit after adding the salt SDVthinking

outer garden
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Maybe
Salt can be annoying
It always clumps for me

exotic snow
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does anyone know how to have a subview on the side mirrored like this in CSP? i might have known but ive forgotten....

mighty bronze
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Window -> subview and if it's under your navigator or something you just manually drag it where you want

marble mantle
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emily has it in the description of most of her vids

exotic snow
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thank you!!

marble mantle
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then when you do that you just drag it to the side

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and its jsut duplicated

exotic snow
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yeah it worked, tysm~

marble mantle
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np
i used to do this in sai i alot

marble mantle
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sigh

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that hand

exotic snow
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i was planning to do a full day of hand practice.... a year ago

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my motivation is non-existant

exotic snow
hoary jewel
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Hello fellow artists can i get some critisism?

exotic snow
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it has been so long since ive seen something i cant find something to critic on

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are you going to colour it?

mighty bronze
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If it's chibi there is not much you can say about it but myself I'd say their left leg should go to the other side like not both of them pointing in the middle, though if you wanted it to be like this don't mind me lol, I think it still needs some adjustments like making it shorter, cute line art either way meowmelt

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If you flip the image I think you can understand what I mean 😅

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I usually do that to see if there's something wrong with what I draw

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Soz if I'm babbling nonsense

blissful sonnet
marble mantle
blissful sonnet
mighty bronze
marble mantle
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dropping this comm here

exotic snow
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pffft the subview picture skskks

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and good work as always!

marble mantle
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started out by tracing the original picture to get a feel of how the features would line up and stuff

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then i kinda referenced it to stylize

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kinda fun stylizing real people

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its a fun learning process
soon ill be able to do it without going over the reference image first

marble mantle
mighty bronze
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whoaaa

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that's how I usually do as well PanAdmire

pulsar sky
solid stag
marble mantle
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thank you thank you

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i was gonna try working with lineart again
but i realized my sketch is enough lineart for me

solid stag
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fair

topaz harbor
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does csp have like a blank palette..? where you can save your own colors

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like in sai

topaz harbor
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anyway i wanna share my wip

mighty bronze
#

dayuuuum

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spicy

topaz harbor
marble mantle
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np

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i still like the palette settings adn stuff in sai a lot more tho

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way easier to work with

lament turtle
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wip ;-;

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hands succ

kindred scaffold
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The bane of every artist... Hands.

solid stag
#

i love how when i open clip studio every other program crashes as well as it

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i think it might be time for me to get a new computer that actually works and doesnt crash every time i switch tabs too quickly

topaz harbor
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Exactly my problem too lol. Everytime csp autosaves and my pc breathes deeply by turning the screen black i pray csp doesnt crash

mighty bronze
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Besides changing his hair style completely (inspired from someone's commission they did for my OC) I also played with the colors and fits better this way I guess flushedmonke they are still the base so we will see SDVpufferwoke

solid stag
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at most i have 4 seperate windows open at one time (discord, firefox, clip studio and clip studio paint)

marble mantle
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i rarely ever open clip studio

solid stag
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i do because thats how i open the actual art program

marble mantle
#

finished

daring geode
marble mantle
#

on my old pc csp used to give me heart attacks all the time

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was mostly my own fault tho

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i used these gigantic sized canvases for no reason

topaz harbor
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Running csp, discord, and chrome was my pc's worst nightmare

daring geode
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my laptop is always debating whether it wants to make csp crash or not

marble mantle
#

running chrome in general is a mistake

topaz harbor
#

chrome is a mistake

marble mantle
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just be like me and use opera gx

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the superior browser

daring geode
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my pc ain't too bad for it now but it does it when my file sizes somehow get to 1GB or higher,, idk how they get so big fjkgf

solid stag
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my laptop is over 2 years old (it has a 2 year warranty) and was already an older model when i got it, though it was better than my old tower that would just HATE running csp and really anything else it didnt like

topaz harbor
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i generally use brave, but my homework tabs are open there so 👄

mighty bronze
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opera? where is my microsoft edge gang at?

daring geode
topaz harbor
#

imagine all those programs, plus OBS

solid stag
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my old tower only had 4 gb of RAM total, and 8 gb of RAM is not a lot better than that

marble mantle
#

speaking of obs

solid stag
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my old tower was so fucking bad

marble mantle
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i need to start recording my art again

daring geode
#

same

marble mantle
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i keep forgetting until im half way through the piece

solid stag
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csp has a timelapse function now

marble mantle
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my youtube channel is suffering from the lack of updated content

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yeah ik

daring geode
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true but it just hits different when you record it, the timelapse function doesn't have the same feel to it

marble mantle
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but posting a timelapse to youtube doesnt have the same feel as recording your screen

solid stag
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yeah true

topaz harbor
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i use csp's timelapse a lot but recording your screen is a diff experience lol

marble mantle
#

the zooms and such feel great

daring geode
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^^

solid stag
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ive done my own speedpaints so i know the feeling, timelapses are good for insta or twitter since they dont let you upload long or large video files

topaz harbor
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i like timelapses more because they're way easier to edit and not that heavy on my pc and memory

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but if i could, i'd go all out on speedpaint

marble mantle
#

theres not much editing required for csp timelapses

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cause csp only records the strokes

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so theres no long pause

topaz harbor
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yeah i just add music to it for posting

solid stag
#

im going to watch youtube videos on pc part compatibility because ive asked my parents if building a pc can be my graduation present since im out of high school this year

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i just. really need a newer pc since this one is old and doesnt work very well anymore

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im going to save all my csp files to the cloud beforehand so i dont lose any of my art this time (thank god for cloud functions)

daring geode
#

the cloud function is a lifesaver

marble mantle
#

i rarely use the cloud

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cause i rarely use clip studio

daring geode
#

i wish i realised it was there when i used to use my laptop to draw on, my hard drive died and i lost everything

solid stag
#

i had to factory reset my laptop last year and i lost all of my 2019 art

daring geode
#

I think the art that i lost was from 2018 or 19 to 2020

marble mantle
#

most of my old art were sai or fire alpaca files

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dont even have those programs anymore

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and they were shitty anyways

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so im not missing them too much

daring geode
#

I used to use medibang so the majority of my files were them

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its an alright program but it's brush selection is just meh

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there ain't much to it

marble mantle
#

ew medi bang

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god i hated that program so much

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i used it once
and it was such a shitty experience

solid stag
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its cloud function is its main seller (despite being free) its just firealpaca but with cloud function

marble mantle
#

medibang is just clip studio paint's ugly cousin

daring geode
#

fgjhjhsd

solid stag
daring geode
#

the airbrush in it is painful

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it leaves a horrible ring thingy on it

solid stag
#

the brush engine is wack

daring geode
#

yeee

marble mantle
#

sai has a wack ass brush engine

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but i loved sai when i used it

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sai is the lil baby
its great but it doesnt get the love it needs

solid stag
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borodante had to suffer through medibangs brush engine, what a trooper

daring geode
#

my tablet never wanted to work with sai so i've never tried it

vague marlin
#

I like Firealpaca

marble mantle
#

the devs dont get to update it much cause people pirate the program a lot more than they buy it

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which is partially their fault

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its a lot easier to steal the program than to get it legally cause the official website for sai is jsut old and crusty

#

looks straight outta 2001

gloomy turtle
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plus half of it is in Japanese

solid stag
#

yeah we might want to steer away from the piracy talk since its against the rules

marble mantle
#

im not promoting pirating
just talking about something that happens to be related to pirating
but yeah sure
new topic

exotic snow
#

what software do you all use to screen record?

solid stag
#

obs or streamlabs, streamlabs has a nicer interface than obs imo, theyre pretty much the same program though

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nae, have you heard of ohnips?

mossy leaf
#

ohnips?

exotic snow
#

nips

solid stag
#

theyre an artist i really like but apparently they got into some drama on twitter (unsurprising) but their art looks really nice. i love how they draw anatomy

mossy leaf
#

might check them out later

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I do wonder what drama they got into

exotic snow
#

@solid stag oh yeah they do look very nice!

solid stag
#

really dumb twitter drama about genderbent dream daddy art

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same shit different day tbh

exotic snow
#

partly why i dont use twt tbh

mossy leaf
#

damn those art pieces are really good

solid stag
#

i got into a small bit of drama where somebody was arguing about delusions not being harmful (they literally are harmful though, its a disconnect from reality) and i got blocked after being asked about if i was psychotic as a medical diagnosis and i said "thats my private medical history, its rude as hell of you to ask that because its telling me that you dont have any counter argument other than to say i dont know anything"

mossy leaf
#

I only use twitter to see what my friends tweet and that is all I use twitter for

solid stag
#

ive stopped checking twitter tbh, i only use it to look at artists i like

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im following way too many people though, i might just ditch me original account and make a new one since theres too much drama on my timeline

mossy leaf
#

sounds like a really good choice

solid stag
#

i just deactivated my twitter account, time to make a new one

mossy leaf
#

your old account was a worthy sacrifice for a better future

west elk
#

i am just going to pop in here heh
Does anyone have tips on good colour pens for a beginner?

solid stag
#

i was following a good 700 users on my old account

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im not sure if discord will let me connect my new one because its under a different email

strong oracle
#

ahh what body types would the bachelors and bachelorettes have 😩 im drawing all of them and i need suggestions

solid stag
# strong oracle ahh what body types would the bachelors and bachelorettes have 😩 im drawing al...

some for the bachelors:

alex: def muscular and athletic, a bit more toned but not super super muscular like a competetive bodybuilder is. slightly below average height
sam: skinny and tall, legs are a bit more muscular than his arms or torso. overall pretty average
sebastian: average all around, with a rounder face than sam. super pale with heavy dark circles under his eyes since the whole "i live in the basement and dont see the light of day very often". wide mouth like a frog because i thinks its funny
elliott: fucking TALL. the size of this lad. unit. might have some crows feet but his skin is flawless, with the exception of his hands which are a bit calloused. might be a bit chubby
harvey: soft. very soft. i see him as the oldest of the bachelors, so he might have smile lines and forehead wrinkles but not much else. probably has a dad body, his stomach prodrudes a bit but other than that hes fairly average. hes around elliotts height, a bit shorter though
shane: beer belly. thats a must have. really hairy. thick chest and arm hair. shortest of the bachelors imo, his anger is compacted

strong oracle
#

yes

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i love you

solid stag
#

i think harvey's mustache would be softer than expected because he actually takes care of his facial hair

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yw!! i hope these are specific enough for you to invision it

strong oracle
lament turtle
#

based

solid stag
#

everyone draws harvey with that kind of mustache but i see it more as a handlebar

strong oracle
#

moustaches all on their own are terrifying

solid stag
#

the big 80's style mustaches are, handlebars look nice on their own imo

solid stag
#

yeah, more like this though

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or like this

strong oracle
#

this is like a basic sketch but what about-

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he has a full body and pose too dw jajjaja

solid stag
#

like a pencil stache?

strong oracle
solid stag
#

i also headcanon sam as half asian

strong oracle
solid stag
#

filipino

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jodi is filipino

strong oracle
solid stag
#

i mean these are just ideas, you dont have to take everything i say as gospel

strong oracle
solid stag
#

please dont

strong oracle
solid stag
#

also you dont need to ping me for every reply

strong oracle
#

oo sorry 😩

solid stag
#

theres literally no reason

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elliott has a strong nose for sure

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i will let you decide

west elk
#

haha i love it

marble mantle
#

question question

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horns or no horns

solid stag
#

the horn on the side facing us is a bit wonky imo

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im a horn person so yes to the horns but you may want to adjust the one facing us

gloomy turtle
#

no horns

vague marlin
#

I like the horns

marble mantle
#

just wanted to get the symbol of horns down so i can have an idea

vague marlin
#

Do you draw horns often or? Is it mostly just human beings with no like, animal-like features?

#

Because if you only draw humans with no animal-like features or you haven’t drawn horns often, drawing the horns might be good practice for future reference in case you need to do them again for a commission or somethin’

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It’s ultimately up to the artist though

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I know you do a lot of humans as I’m a lurker so I’m not concerned about your ability in that area

marble mantle
#

ive never drawn horns before

vague marlin
#

Then yeah I think sticking with the horns would be great

solid stag
#

ive drawn horns before, they can be tricky but theyre basically like limbs, if you can draw an arm well you can draw horns

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its the foreshortening thats tricky

vague marlin
#

I’ve also drawn horns before but how good they ended up being is... up to interpretation ^^;

exotic snow
#

if you need/want to you can always use some 3D models to help w perspective

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but yes, keep the horns

vague marlin
#

Horns are neat yes

marble mantle
#

and if im still struggling ill get some 3d assets

solid stag
#

ive been working on this for. a good couple hours and im now getting to the lineart portion

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cleaning up the sketch will give me a good indication of where shapes will be

#

i actually had to block out the shape of the head and torso with the polygon lasso tool because i wasnt satisfied with the sketches i was doing which ive never done before but it helped a lot

vocal sphinx
#

looks so good!!! can't wait to see the end result

lament turtle
#

u draw good rino!

marble mantle
#

how sketch

solid stag
#

nae i would like to thank you for helping me figure out how to draw noses because i love drawing them but dear god they look terrible when i did them in older pictures

marble mantle
#

:O

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i didnt do anything tho

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but

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youre welcome?

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i love doing the noses

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i feel like theres so much personality in a strong nose

solid stag
#

same

solid stag
#

i was thinking: man, leo and elliott look similar as hell

and then i drew them side by side and. they look nothing alike. the most they share is colors

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leo is my oc btw

fossil helm
#

sorry i've been inactive on here lately, i've just been busy

i think i've already posted this in #creative but whatever

devout stream
#

self-indulgence

velvet citrus
#

Keychain I love your art design

indigo sequoia
#

I’m currently working on a stardew character lineup and I noticed I really dislike drawing jackets SDVpufferknife

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Many of the bachelors/bachelorettes have some sort of jacket 😩

spiral gale
#

guys guys guys

#

im making a knife :) ill finish it tmrw

glacial fox
#

dragon girl's true form sketch

#

i need to actually learn how to draw dragon

#

@shell notch poke

shell notch
spiral gale
#

skEtCh

mighty bronze
#

Lmaooo

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That's epic

lament turtle
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Did made her bc my little sister asked me to. I had a lot of ideas for Kristel and I kinda liked the idea about Karl being a dad. I did Kristel's mom but I haven't named her yet

solid stag
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i miss doing pottery, my gramma has a pottery room in her house and i havent seen her in ages (nor do i want to, shes awful)

marble mantle
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i hate everything traditional and physical

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not my kinda thing to work with

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great to look at tho

exotic snow
solid stag
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thats very valid

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3d programs are hard as shit to work with though

exotic snow
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one times i did a really nice sketch ready for inking on thicc nice paper

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then i ruined it when i messed up my inking

solid stag
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oh no

marble mantle
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i had to do trad for my exams

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it was painful

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one time i was doing a mosaic
and i spilled the glue all over my paper

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so i just ripped up the whole project

solid stag
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i really love madoka kinoshita's work, it looks digital but its a traditional painting

marble mantle
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suprised i got a 2

solid stag
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i know this isnt your type of style but i love her work, its really impressive

marble mantle
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i think ive seen her in my reommended section

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didnt click on it tho cause
well
1 its anime

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adn 2 its traditional

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only traditional channel i watch is this one water colour dude

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cause he draws really well

indigo sequoia
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So...the line up I was talking about

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Remind me to not do that again 🥱

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I got so bored half way I just wanted to get it over with

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Which it why it’s half assed

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Damn I didn’t expect such a strong reaction but tbh id much rather do a landscape or architecture drawing/painting

solid stag
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dang

devout stream
velvet citrus
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:)

lament turtle
indigo sequoia
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Thank you ^^

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I think part of why I got over it is that the paper is too small for this they look compressed lol

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But I couldn’t make them smaller and deal with the details it took too long as is

indigo sequoia
solid stag
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i love making pokemon trainer ocs, one of my oldest and favorite is a girl trainer called Darv who has a team of really big bulky pokemon but her ace is a meowstic

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im thinking if pokemon did another game set in europe they could take inpsiration from the different kinds of folklore across europe

strong oracle
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are these good poses and body shapes 😩

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OH NO I FORGOT MARA

outer garden
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Oh no!

strong oracle
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shes here i saved her 😩

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are they ok though 🧍‍♀️

vague marlin
strong oracle
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i thought they might be offensive or something thats good to know <333

lament turtle
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rip the granny

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😔

strong oracle
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poor woman isnt a bacholorette SDVpuffersob no gilfs today

lament turtle
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lmao

obtuse tapir
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Hello fellow creatures! Can one of you give me something to turn into a humen causeee im very bored

spiral gale
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hngggfh how to hold pen,

obtuse tapir
strong oracle
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youre very welcome

lament turtle
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It's my first time doing anything related to the human being, I'm trying some things. How am I going? I would really appreciate some tips and stuff.

solid stag
warm finch
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if you have a tablet, i recommend drawing longer lines rather than connecting short lines together, it keeps your work cleaner and smoother

marble mantle
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what butter said
long confident strokes >> messy hairy lines

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and i recommended using a reference for the face yours doing

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itll help with keeping proportions in check
even if you dont follow it exactly

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one good way to get proper face proportions is to focus on the planes of the head

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making sure they all line up can help fix a wonky face

warm finch
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A common misconception that good/pro artists don’t use references at all and know proportions and anatomy by heart

marble mantle
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pro artists just dont rely on it as much as we would need to because
theyve been doing this for years
their visual library is massive

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but even then
they still take pics of their own hands and poses

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so refs are always good

warm finch
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Yea

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They still use them, just not as often

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So moral of the story, using references is good

marble mantle
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yes

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it helps

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a lot

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even when youre stylizing

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getting refs can help with the position of stuff
and the shapes youd need to exaggerate

humble lava
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with those guidelines it looks like you might have been using a drawing tutorial as well. I may be wrong. But if you were, I would suggest looking at more than one, or finding ones that're.. what's a good word. 'professionally made' isn't quite right but it's in the ballpark.
Some of those tutorials out there were made by people that don't entirely know what they're doing themselves and have misinformation or mistakes, you know the deal.

marble mantle
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for learning how to draw heads i find the loomis method that proko teaches works well

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even if youre using it just for the beginning

outer garden
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Poses are so hard, ugh
Especially toget them to look natural