creative-discussion

[odd tiger]

@exotic snow Thank you c:

[open tulip]

something really small but i'm really proud of it

[exotic snow]

fyi this is how i do it

[odd tiger]

Ah

[exotic snow]

but depending on your preferred artstyle you can e.g. vary how hard your shadows are

and how much hue shift you do etc. etc.

[odd tiger]

Yeah

@open tulip those are really cute

[vernal nexus]

They look so pretty!

[tiny stump]

@gloomy turtle The stuff featured in that image I made is simpler than what it seems to be, it required some trials tho

The "archives" are nothing more than this rectangular marker brush with spacing ramped up

The clouds were a bunch of big dots with a water brush and some non blurry mixer brush

The "grass" was about the same but with the knife

[raw dragon]

testing out art styles

[tropic halo]

Be careful with the airbrush tho
Especially if you're a beginner
Too much and it'll end up looking soft and muddy

[grand cave]

Don’t know if you were specifically saying that for amaryn or just as general advice, but they are definitely not a beginner 😅

[tropic halo]

i actually meant the person they were answering

but then replies funky

definitely not for amaryn tho

[exotic snow]

hahaha i know, great point nae

adding to that i usually go very light-handed with the airbrush and keep the airbrush colour not that far off from the base (if that makes sense) so that there isnt such a big contract when I'm still on the first layer of shading

[tropic halo]

my first shading colors is usually really close to the base as well

too bad im lazy
so i end up doing all my shading on one layer

my skin tone colours

[vernal nexus]

How many layers of shading do you guys do, or recommend doing?

[tropic halo]

i cant recommend my workflow to any one

its built from pure laziness

i do one layer for everythnig

i have my sketch on one
base colours on one

then i merge

and do all my shading and rendering on that one layer

[vernal nexus]

I usually do one layer base colour, one layer shading, one layer lighting if needed. Idk if I should do more layers though.

[tropic halo]

use what works for you

i used to think i had to use more layer just cause everyone else is using more layers

but its really jsut what you prefer

[vernal nexus]

I've started locking layers after being done with them like you recommended.

Has made it easier not messing up lol

[tropic halo]

yes

locking layers gang

its just way easier for me that way
than to end up drawing on the wrong layer and not realizing til im done

[lament turtle]

I just figured out how to lock layers and my life is complete

[tropic halo]

locking layers gang

we growing

[lament turtle]

Could use in my favor, because everytime a little kid sees me drawing digitally, they ask "Can I mess up your drawing?"

[tropic halo]

i dont have kids around me when i work

they touch and talk too much

in fact
i dont have kids around me ever

i just kick em out the moment i see em coming my way

[vernal nexus]

I feel that. I try to avoid it too but I have nieces.

[lament turtle]

My mom works with kids, my neighbors are kids, part of my family are kids, all around the ages of 5-9

[echo mesa]

Ang can never avoid kid 😔 they r kid

[lament turtle]

I'm 13 not 10

[echo mesa]

still kid aged to me tbh

[lament turtle]

[echo mesa]

being kid isnt bad thing lol
makes you closer to being a goat

im so far from being a goat 😔

[tropic halo]

hahah kid

kid is like
til 16

for me
and im sure people older than me will see me as a kid

[vernal nexus]

Can confirm, kid is everything up to around 20 for me.

[echo mesa]

nice, im not a kid

[vernal nexus]

It also depends a little on how you act.

General you.

[echo mesa]

o dang, im probably back to being a kid

[vernal nexus]

Me too lol

[echo mesa]

high fives in Italian

[vernal nexus]

high fives

[tropic halo]

i really need to go work on that ref sheet for my oc
yet here i am

not doing that

[vernal nexus]

Ah that reminds me of the wip I have.

[echo mesa]

is it rly living if you dont have a wip ur avoiding

ive been staring at three pages of a comic for the last three hrs
i like to pretend ive gotten things done

[exotic snow]

i use one skin base layer and 7 layers of shading

[vernal nexus]

Is that every layer a darker shade for shading?

[exotic snow]

layer 1 is soft airbrush shade; layer 2 is basic hard shade; 3 is darker hard shade; 4 is the outline of the shaded areas with a contrasting color; 5 and above are lighting layers

generally that's how it goes

[vernal nexus]

I see. 🤔 I never do outlines for the shading. Do you have an example how it looks?

[exotic snow]

its very subtle but i like doing it

wait ill zoom in and screenshot it for u

[vernal nexus]

Thank you!

[exotic snow]

that outline, if u can see it

[vernal nexus]

Oh I see it.

Makes the hard edges better, I like that.

[tropic halo]

yeah when shading you gotta know where to add hard edges

and there youll have softer edges

[vernal nexus]

I think I'm using a shade way too dark for shading idk I gotta check that whenever I finish that wip.

[exotic snow]

I usually do the outlines with a soft brush or a hard pen depending on the style of the whole piece that I was going for so yeah

[tropic halo]

i use a brush that allows build up

[vernal nexus]

I'll keep that in mind!

[tropic halo]

so even if the colour i use is too dark

it doesnt go to its darkest immediately

[vernal nexus]

I use a brush that has opacity so I can get darker colours with more pressure.

[exotic snow]

opacity by pressure is a scary concept imo lmao

personally i put my painting brushes in low opac and build it up

[tropic halo]

nah its not opacity by pressure for me

i just have to go over a stroke multiple times before it gets to the full hue

[exotic snow]

oh another way to shade is just blend like your life depends on it

[tropic halo]

blending is nice

thats how i did my painting

[exotic snow]

Like how i do it with clothes

[tropic halo]

altho i dont use blenders

i just colour pick

until it blends

[exotic snow]

I feel like I'll get lost with color picking tho

[vernal nexus]

It's actually opacity and size by pressure.

[exotic snow]

Yeah size by pressure I do but not opac

[vernal nexus]

And it's working really well for me. I'm actually pretty surprised lol

[tropic halo]

thats how i blend skin

i put the two colours i want to blend next to each other

[exotic snow]

Oh that area under the nose looks pretty

[tropic halo]

then i just colour pick and bleed em into each other

thank youu

[lament turtle]

that just called my art shit in 27447 languages

[tropic halo]

what-

[lament turtle]

it's too good

i could never

[echo mesa]

pro-tip: dont put your own art down while complimenting others
it doesnt rly give the artist a way to respond, and doesnt rly promote them good feels

[lament turtle]

o h

[echo mesa]

plus it also just makes you feel worse about your own art

[lament turtle]

Well i was just saying my art is shit

[tropic halo]

^^^^

[echo mesa]

just means time to practice more ;D

[exotic snow]

Everyone starts somewhere tho tbh

[echo mesa]

^^

[exotic snow]

we were all shit once tbf lmao,,, (looks at my old art)

[tropic halo]

yup

[vernal nexus]

Yeah it's better to look at the things that you like about your art and acknoledge where you can improve.

[tropic halo]

my old art is very not good

it just takes a little patience
takes a little time
a little perseverance
and a little up hill climb
_ the dad from dear evan hansen. larry or whatever tf his name is

[echo mesa]

looking at old art is whack
like, at the time i was proud of that
and now its just bleh
but thinking past art is bleh, is kinda good? like, yeah, ive improved since then, nice

my sister wants to learn to draw 😔 but like a typical 9 yr old - zero patience lol
she considers a few days of trying to be 'enough practice' and idk how to convince her otherwise

[exotic snow]

It could be a matter of developing taste

[vernal nexus]

Does she wanna stop drawing after she has "practiced enough"?

[tropic halo]

its good to be able to identify your skill level
know where youre at and what need improvement
So on so forth

but dont tear yourself down

[echo mesa]

she wants to stop trying that particular thing, yeah
like, if she can she'll get me to draw parts for her bc she's 'tried enough' and has decided she can never do it

[vernal nexus]

Ah I see. :/

Maybe she needs to cycle through everything until she gets back to the thing she thinks she can't draw and try again.

[exotic snow]

Ah yes, try gin, what I always do

[vernal nexus]

Try again, not try gin 😂

[exotic snow]

hahah joking

[vernal nexus]

Worst typo ever

No no it's fine I'm laughing 😂

[echo mesa]

she'll eventually learn patience and that she needs to practice
but for now she's pretty content just to draw whenever she remembers I like drawing, and she likes liking whatever I like lmao

[exotic snow]

does she do trad art or digital?

[vernal nexus]

She's too young to try gin, but one day...

[echo mesa]

trad
she doesnt have access to digital yet

when she learns to not wreck all technology, maybe she can have my current tablet one day

[exotic snow]

I used to draw six boxes when i was doing art as a child and draw the same thing in these six boxes, and each time i aim to draw a better version of that thing

i got better at spotting weaknesses in my art that way, dunno if that would work for her tho

[echo mesa]

ooo, i might suggest that to her next time she comes over
and maybe show her the idea, too

[vernal nexus]

I used to obsess over drawing one thing at a time and drew it a lot. Wasn't the worst practice.

[echo mesa]

a young persons obsession with smething is unmatched
the way they focus on smething and just Make so much for it? so powerful

[exotic snow]

Plus if you wanna practice creativity, you can try combining two very absurd ideas, e.g. birds and pudding, and try to draw something from that

[echo mesa]

bird pudding . . .

[exotic snow]

Haha idk, that was random

[vernal nexus]

A pudding turkey. Wobble wobble.

[echo mesa]

it does sound like a cute idea tho

[exotic snow]

Maybe a pudding with wings...

[vernal nexus]

I like that prompt tbh. Every time I look at art prompts it's just one word and I can't work with that. But two words? Bam. Creativity.

[echo mesa]

i always struggle with prompts 😔

[vernal nexus]

Like "balloon". Ok I'm drawing a balloon done now what?

But "balloon forest" yooooo

[exotic snow]

Sometimes when I get into my art blocks, I try to combine weathers and objects too, e.g. rainy days w/ a red dress

then I can somehow conjure up a mental picture

[vernal nexus]

Oh that reminds me of the emoji username generator, I bet that one would be great for that bc it combines the names of two emojis like leaf unicorn.

[tropic halo]

i do that sometimes now

[exotic snow]

because I associate weathers with emotions and ig that's just what i needed

[tropic halo]

not 6 boxes tho

only 3 cause im lazy

[exotic snow]

i do that when I come up with my very initial compositions

[tropic halo]

yeah
works well for comms

to give em thumbnails and such

i normally do the same drawing over and over but with differnt poses and such like that

[exotic snow]

Technically speaking I would ideally come up with 4 small thumbnails, choose the best 2 to further develop, then choose the better one to make into a proper piece but-

I'm lazy.

[tropic halo]

pfft

[exotic snow]

That's similar to what I do too haha

[tropic halo]

i save my thumbnails that i dont use for one drawing

cause then i can just go back to em
and use em for another drawing

i once sent a client some 3 thumbnails
and he couldnt choose
and asked me to do all 3 of em

[exotic snow]

Damn being commissioned is hard huh

[tropic halo]

nah

meant more money for me

i love comms

[exotic snow]

Oh so you do charge them more, ig that's fair

[tropic halo]

its a great way to get practice

especially since im not good at coming up with idea for myself

[tropic halo]

yeah
for the price of 3 commissions

[mighty bronze]

Hah, I do ask for commissions in pairs because I can use them as phone wallpaper

Now I wait for Ciervobizarro to open them again hehe

[vernal nexus]

One home screen one lock screen?

I think I can get Artisan today... but now I'm shy to message Bouncer again for the third time. :')

[open tulip]

what csp brushes do you guys use?

[mighty bronze]

Both

[vernal nexus]

Yeah that's what I meant ^^ since you said you always order two.

[exotic snow]

I use the Custom G-Pen (you can get it from the official CSP account on Clip Studio) for lineart (mostly)

for painting and shading I use custom brushes as well, do you want links or...?

[open tulip]

yes pls

[exotic snow]

Oh one brush I use that's default is the perfect oil paint brush, for clothes shading

[tropic halo]

you and me both

[tropic halo]

a custom square brush
a custom triangle brush
custom soft brush for skin
g pen to block in solid colours
and then the default water colour brushes

[open tulip]

ooh cool

[tropic halo]

there a brush for freckles as well
but i only use those for portraits

and the blending brush is another thing i hardly use
only for big surfaces

[open tulip]

those are some great titles

[exotic snow]

I use this one brush for 90% of everything in painting

[vernal nexus]

Did you name your brushes nae?

[open tulip]

i think i use this one actually

[exotic snow]

oop-

[tropic halo]

hell yeah

[vernal nexus]

Nice 👌

[tropic halo]

default names are boring

[vernal nexus]

I'd get so confused tbh

[open tulip]

lmfao

[exotic snow]

same hahaha

[tropic halo]

you work aight is a custom brush i made

trans honey is transparent water colour

oh plague is the opaque water colour

[exotic snow]

I kept my brushes with their original names just so it's easier to find them tbh

[tropic halo]

dumbass is a brush i hate

[vernal nexus]

Give the brushes you hate degrading names to assert your dominance.

[tropic halo]

hell yeah

[vernal nexus]

I like that tbh.

[tropic halo]

could totally just delete it but thats no fun

[exotic snow]

name your brushes after people you hate and then abuse tf out of those brushes lmao asdfajsd

[vernal nexus]

I don't even know what my brushes are called I just go by the pictures.

[tropic halo]

pfft

theres this one brush in krita that i really like

the oil brush with the hair

its almost like a real paint brush

[vernal nexus]

Greasy Beauty.

[tropic halo]

very cool

[exotic snow]

for texturing I use either Chalk or Crayon

[open tulip]

krita was too hard for me to get used to

[vernal nexus]

What you guys use textures :x

Krita did take two or three tries for me too but I have little alternatives. Then again I had a hard time getting into Medibang Paint Pro as well.

[exotic snow]

I always tell myself I don't need all these custom brushes but I can't stop downloading them TT

[tropic halo]

krita is great for painting

i just hate hate hate how it keeps crashing and freezing

[vernal nexus]

That sucks! It's running very stable for me.

[exotic snow]

if I want to be XTRA then yes

[tropic halo]

medibang is ugly

prolly the only program i hate more than krita

[vernal nexus]

Medibang has its benefits but it's ultimately just a comic programme.

I did like it and would not have ditched it if it had a Linux version.

[exotic snow]

I downloaded Medibang once, drew a rabbit, saved it, then deleted Medibang

[vernal nexus]

I actually hated Krita in the beginning because of the way layers work.

[open tulip]

the whole thing was just too confusing for me honestly

[vernal nexus]

I used to use it next to Paint tool Sai.

[open tulip]

the layout of everything was wack

[exotic snow]

ive forgotten how krita works already lol

[vernal nexus]

Ngl. I tried getting back into art with GIMP. Ditched it so quickly.

When you've tried painting with Gimp, every art programme is a better choice.

[tropic halo]

gimp is gross

[exotic snow]

I mean... have you tried MS Paint? It's chefs kiss

[tropic halo]

gimp yucky and i hate it

[vernal nexus]

At least Paint has good brushes tbh haha

[tropic halo]

ive only used 3 art programs

firealpaca
sai
and csp

[exotic snow]

I used csp and i couldnt go back

[vernal nexus]

I tried FireAlpaca but it's meh.

[tropic halo]

firealpaca messed with a file i had for a comm a while back

and i never used it again

i use fire alpaca cause it was the best of the free programs for me

then i got sai

used that for a while

great for lineart

meh for everything else

[vernal nexus]

I liked Sai but idk it was kinda basic. No transparency but idk if it was just the version I used.

[tropic halo]

by this time i already had csp

sai 2 has transparency
sai doesnt

[exotic snow]

tbh i didnt even know (before i proper got into digital art) that firealpaca could be used for something other than photoediting

[tropic halo]

but anyways
csp is stinky for lineart for me
it feels too heavy and such

[vernal nexus]

Sai had great lineart options though. I miss that. Medibang had that too though.

[tropic halo]

so i just never used it and stuck to sai

then i started painting
didnt need to do lineart anymore
and switched to csp completely

[vernal nexus]

I miss a proper path tool with line sizing.

[exotic snow]

do yall use light mode or dark mode in CSP?

Sometimes I like using light mode just to blast my eyes blind to wake myself up

alsdfjasd pfft

[tropic halo]

dark

[mighty bronze]

Tbh I feel bad they sell the commissions so cheap, reason why I tip everytime I could

[tropic halo]

all the way dark

[exotic snow]

to be completely honest I would wanna do commissions but my irl schedule is just very unstable

commissions seem fun

[tropic halo]

they are

nice pocket money

[mighty bronze]

You can organize a schedule and open a number of slots based on it

[exotic snow]

Oh good idea

[tropic halo]

since im not doing anythnig irl rn im free to take however many comms a month

my portrait painting and emotes have been selling like hot cakes

[exotic snow]

Maybe I'll sort something out once I got my graphics tablet repaired

[tropic halo]

i personally just hate how the other ones look

i hate the grey and i hate the white

[vernal nexus]

I wish I could do commissions but I'd feel bad about people paying for my art...

[exotic snow]

Yeah I agree with you on that, on the grey...

[tropic halo]

its so ugly

[tropic halo]

why?

[exotic snow]

Hmm why though? You put your time and effort into the art and they requested it right?

[tropic halo]

you put time and effort into it

pfft
same answer

[exotic snow]

ahaha

[tropic halo]

but yeah
dont feel bad

no reason to
its just like paying for any other goods or service

[vernal nexus]

Idk I do agree with you but I feel like I'm just not good enough and confident enough in my art.

[exotic snow]

flashbang

[tropic halo]

ah

[vernal nexus]

I'm conflicted but I know you two do have a point.

[tropic halo]

well if its a case where youre not confident in your art then you probably shouldnt start comms

no point in selling products you dont have 100% confidence in

[exotic snow]

^^ yeah

[tropic halo]

that lack of confidence can lead to you getting scammed and walked over

[exotic snow]

on the other hand I'm worried I'll end up underpricing my stuff if I decide to start comms

[vernal nexus]

Yup!

[exotic snow]

or overpricing

[vernal nexus]

Yup to the not starting until I'm confident.
Also yup to maybe not pricing correctly.

I'm honestly just happy I started painting again and have a place to show it.

[exotic snow]

Atm I can tutor students irl for around USD65 for 2 hours

but lets say if i spend that much time on art i probably wont make as much money so thats why there's that issue ig

[exotic snow]

Mhm, you should always do art as you enjoy it

[tropic halo]

you can always come and get a second opinion

[echo mesa]

tfw uve been drawing and suddenly realize its 4am 😔

[exotic snow]

😔

also tfw when you've been drawing for too long and you got so irritated you almost broke your tablet

[echo mesa]

[tropic halo]

tfw you havent been doing anyting but staring at a canvas

[exotic snow]

^ oh I remember you saying you don't like sketching on white

why is that?

[echo mesa]

hehe, Stargram

[tropic halo]

me?
cause white is just really bright

and i dont really like using white at all in anything i do

i normally go for an offwhite

[exotic snow]

Ah understandable

Same tho, offwhites look more like paper

[exotic snow]

(but then again im almost always too lazy to change the paper color)

[tropic halo]

my paper colour is set to a grey

plus this is a nice midtone

so when i start shading in grey scale
i can use this as the base

[exotic snow]

for me its this color (if i could be bothered)

[exotic snow]

i used to shade in greyscale but i found myself getting bored cuz there werent any colors on screen asdlfjajs

[tropic halo]

ahh so bright

my eyes-

but grey scale is fun
nice practice

[exotic snow]

come to think of it I don't really use greys anymore, I use brownish colors for all my bases

[tropic halo]

i normally do my shading twice when i practice

first in greyscale
then in colour

[exotic snow]

flashbang haha oop-

[tropic halo]

genuinely thought this was said for a moment

ive had friends tell me that my csp workspace is weird

[exotic snow]

its just what you are used to personally i think

i mean sure it looks bit out of place for me too hahah

[exotic snow]

oh btw how do you put a referencing corner in your workspace?

[tropic halo]

its the subview option

i dont even know why i have the colour picker there still

i dont use it

i just use the sliders

[exotic snow]

Oh nice! Thanks!

[tropic halo]

np

discovering it was great

no longer crowing my canvas with references

[exotic snow]

(maybe this will encourage me to finally use some references when drawing pfft)

[exotic snow]

I used PureRef before when I was drawing animals

[tropic halo]

oo
Never heard of that

what does it do?

[exotic snow]

it lets you drag and drop pictures off your browser and stays on top of your windows

like a moodboard on top of everything

[tropic halo]

:O

i might test that out one day

sounds cool

found a wip
one day ill complete it

[exotic snow]

aaaaa that's so cute

the little hat

[blazing mango]

I don’t quite know where to ask this, but does anyone have the dimensions of a protective case that they used for the collectors edition animal display?

[tropic halo]

i dont
sorry

[exotic snow]

thats v specific but no sorry

[blazing mango]

It’s okey guys! Sorry to interrupt

[tropic halo]

this is how i used to store references

[exotic snow]

thats also how my desk looks near finals season

[tropic halo]

pffffffft

luckily subview saved me from all this clutter

[vernal nexus]

Reference tools are probably the best invention since sliced bread.

Geez every time I wanna draw and listen to some music, Linux hits me with kernel updates. 😩

[open tulip]

is there a place in csp where you can see all the assets you've downloaded?

[tropic halo]

@open tulip

[open tulip]

oH

righttt

thanks :')

[tropic halo]

np

[vernal nexus]

I have acquired The Role 😩👌

[warm finch]

Yayyy piss ganggg

[arctic ingot]

congrats on artisan lucia

[velvet sun]

congrats on being piss colour

[vernal nexus]

Thank you 😩 ❤️

[tropic halo]

hell yeah

one of us
one of us

[stuck robin]

congrats aoife!!

[warm finch]

Maybe one day sosh will join the piss family too

[boreal seal]

I think i'm close to having enough activity to join the piss gang

[vernal nexus]

Jox is next

[exotic snow]

If your piss looks like this color then please, go for a doctor visit some time in the future. (jokes)

[warm finch]

I heard someone called the modder role dehydrated piss, even worse

[exotic snow]

dehyd- wheeze

[tropic halo]

i like how this looks

[mighty bronze]

LMAOOOOOO

and that portrait looks hella good!!

[velvet sun]

ooh polygons

[ember zealot]

If your piss looks like this color then please, go for a doctor visit some time in the future. (jokes)
U just gotta drink more water :)

[velvet sun]

no

[warm finch]

it reminds me of art in a game called orwell, i really really like that kind of art

[ember zealot]

oh orwell is fun
Granted it's been a long while since I played but it was entertaining

[mighty bronze]

final adjustments, time to color

[tropic halo]

nice lines

[mighty bronze]

Thank ya!

I am definitely getting used to that Chakibrush

[tropic halo]

lowkey making me want to go back to my lineart days

i miss the days of just looking at completed lineart

[mighty bronze]

Nevah leave it without color!! Unless, it's black and white

That reminds me... I wanna draw in gray scale only one day

[tropic halo]

grey scale is fun

best way to figure out values

[mighty bronze]

!!

Just like when I shade with the pen on paper, didn't try digitally oho

Got bunch of diff pens last time I went to the art store

I can't wait to get used using diff tones

Thought 7B was the darkest lmao

[vernal nexus]

Looking forward to seeing the coloured version. 👀

[mighty bronze]

[velvet sun]

ngl i just looked at this chat and wondered why you were all yellow

my dumbass

[boreal seal]

I have joined the piss gang now i guess

[velvet sun]

How

🪄

[boreal seal]

being active and posting art pretty much

[velvet sun]

im just wondering how you got it so fast lol

[boreal seal]

dming bouncer

[velvet sun]

congrats

[boreal seal]

ty

[mighty bronze]

oho neato

[velvet sun]

i like scrolling through this channel because i like looking at the colour yellow XD

[slow plaza]

I just realized my art got posted in the #art-gallery channel

[tropic halo]

All sdv related art gets posted there

[mighty bronze]

hawyeeee

base going good

[tropic halo]

do you do coloured lineart?

like
change the colour of lines inside?

ive never done it

but ive seen a lot of peeps do it

[mighty bronze]

Sometimes yeah, like colouring the small lines to blend with the colour

[tropic halo]

ah

ive always wanted to try it

nice bases so far tho

[mighty bronze]

Can't wait to use the SDV templates and make his profile

[spice dawn]

i've never had to do a fedora in the stardew style
please end my suffering 😭 ❤️

alternatively, send help

[dense wing]

the closest thing to a fedora you can get with SDV style is gunther or Mr. Qi

[dense wing]

[spice dawn]

[warm finch]

She hot

[spice dawn]

i never realized

mr qi had a fedora

IT LOOKS LIKE A FLOPPY HAT

(mr qi's I mean)

[dense wing]

[spice dawn]

[dense wing]

:pepegahands:

[cosmic shell]

ok guys, I need y'all to settle a disagreement for me. Which one is a better Wizard.

or

attach emotes to your preferred wizard

please and thank you

[cosmic shell]

YOU ALL HAVE BETRAYED ME

[rain olive]

Second looks like wizard more tho

[cosmic shell]

@bright glade

[pastel iris]

lol I always hated side profile portraits in vanilla 😓

gunther, elliott, sandy side profile portraits are just.. ugh

@spice dawn of all stardew valley abbreviations, I've only seen SDV or SV so far

or actually that SVD stands for Starvew Dalley?

[spice dawn]

it's starvew dalley !!

AND IT'S BC

i'm very used to SVE

[pastel iris]

ah I see it then lol

[spice dawn]

to the point i just get sdv and svd mixed up AHAH

at this point i've kept it for the memes

but i know its incorrect

[lament turtle]

Bruhhh i like this artist so much

Perle_Art from Twitter btw

Too bad I can't understand the language

[warm finch]

hi, it's me, a person who knows chinese

it's basically the happy birthday to you song

but in chinese

[lament turtle]

cute

Thank you butter :'DDD

[tawny lynx]

Oohhh I like that hug.

[warm finch]

I feel so awesome that i can be a translator for once

[echo mesa]

have any of y'all seen a 2021 prompt list for Magical March around?
its occurred to me March is not rly That Far off

[pastel iris]

a chonkin man and a doctor

[pastel iris]

is magical march basically sort of inktober?

[sly narwhal]

searched it up and seems like it

[echo mesa]

magical themed inktober ig
but no ones gon be an ass and tell you that you have to use ink

[mighty bronze]

H... hot!!!

[tropic halo]

I don't think anyone is saying you have to use ink for inktober now a days

From my experience that was back when it just started

[vernal nexus]

Isn't/wasn't inktober for traditional art? Not only ink, just any traditional medium.

Or was it only ink in the beginning?

[tropic halo]

In the beginning (God created the heavens and the earth) it was just ink tradionally I think

[vernal nexus]

I see!

[tropic halo]

But back then people just had t b idea of digital art being inferior to tradional

The*

[vernal nexus]

Yeah I faintly remember that it started as a "back to traditional art, no digital art allowed" kinda thing.

That's like saying "only write fanfiction per hand, no computer allowed".

[tropic halo]

Even now people try to write off digital art as being not real art

It's just not as prevalent

[vernal nexus]

You know what's not real art? A banana taped to a wall.

[echo mesa]

there still is a few pple thinking inktober has to be done traditionally with ink
not as vocal now at least
not that it matters to me, i dont do inktober

[vernal nexus]

I don't do inktober either. I don't have ink and I can't buy any.

[tropic halo]

Don't need ink

[echo mesa]

could do it other ways now
but rly, theres better challenges out there

[vernal nexus]

Also their prompts aren't giving me any creativity.

[tropic halo]

I just don't do inktober cause I'm not interested in cranking out a drawing everyday

[echo mesa]

yeeee, inktober prompts are kinda ass

[tropic halo]

Full drawings everyday isn't my thing

[pastel iris]

as far as I know, inktober doesn't really matter if you're doing trad/digital

[vernal nexus]

I know I know ^^ I meant just their premise of "ink or bust" kinda put me off so now I'm not doing it either way even if I could do it digitally.

[tropic halo]

I do draw everyday tho

[echo mesa]

ive got a sketchbook somewhere from where i did inktober a few years back
the art is so shitty ❤️

[tropic halo]

Nice

[vernal nexus]

I like doing a traditional sketch, take a photo, import it to a programme and then refine it digitally.

[tropic halo]

I don't draw tradionally at all

I like my shortcuts too much

I'll miss my lasso and my transform and my undo

[vernal nexus]

I'm learning to do better digital sketches now so I don't do much traditional anymore.

[tropic halo]

Those are my BFFs

[echo mesa]

i used to do all my sketches traditionally then colour digitally
now i mostly do digital and do traditional art whenever i figure my cats will leave me alone

lowkey jealous of pple who can colour good with coloured pencils tbh

[vernal nexus]

Oh same.

I always end up going to dark and then it's flat.

[mighty bronze]

I try to stay between them, I like sketching cartoon characters especially now I wanna draw like 20 of them 10 males and 10 females especially from old cartoons

[echo mesa]

i've gotten better at it, but i do still be needing practice 😔

[tropic halo]

Just practice

Can't get good just like that

[echo mesa]

that do be the plan

[pastel iris]

I totally left my pencil and eraser almost completely ever since I got drawing tab kek

[mighty bronze]

smh

[vernal nexus]

I want one of those sticky squishy erasers for art.

[echo mesa]

literally everytime i say im not good at smething, or jealous of someone elses skills, you can assume i do b practicing

[vernal nexus]

Way better than those smudgy things.

[tropic halo]

Cartoon studies are great
I do a lot from lilo and stitch and ponyo

[mighty bronze]

ohooo

[echo mesa]

i dont own any erasers i live and suffer with my traditional art mistakes

[pastel iris]

ctrl+z and multi layering is my lifesaver after all

[vernal nexus]

I own an eraser for school stuff. One of those red and blue things.

[tropic halo]

How does one not own a rubber

Crazy

[mighty bronze]

watch me trying to draw my character in different cartoon styles, I freaking want to do that so bad!!!

[vernal nexus]

Legends say you could erase fountain pen ink with the blue part. U.U

[echo mesa]

i dont need one
i dont use pencils outside of sketches
what would i need a rubber for

[tropic halo]

Sketching....

[echo mesa]

i live with my sketch mistakes

[tropic halo]

I see

[echo mesa]

my traditional art is all practice
idc if the sketches are rough or bad

[tropic halo]

Good on you then

[echo mesa]

one day im gon buy a decent mechanical pencil
my current pencil for sketching do b getting short

[tropic halo]

Nice

Anyways
Working on a ref sheet
Any tips

[echo mesa]

a ref sheet for your One (1) oc?
ig just make sure it makes sense to you, maybe check out other pples ref sheets to see how they do em, tho im guessing you've done that

[vernal nexus]

I love mechanical pencils I used to have one but I think I ran out of replacement tips.

And now I can't find the pencil again.

[tropic halo]

I have
Yeah

[echo mesa]

all the mechanical pencils ive had in past havent been great 😔 the lead ends up getting gummed up in em

[tropic halo]

Lowkey don't know what style to do it in

My painted style or my regular lineart style

Don't know if I wanna make her sexy or cute

[echo mesa]

a more simple style probably - smething that Just shows the characters design

[tropic halo]

Lots of choices

I wanna make it so the design is clear but I also want it to be pleasing to look at

[echo mesa]

whats her personality like? would she want to look cute? or would she want to look sexy?

[tropic halo]

She's crazy

She stabs people just beacuse she can

[echo mesa]

that makes me think sexy
but ig sme pple do go for the cute crazy look

[tropic halo]

I'll just wing it when I start drawing ig

Thinking of painting her tho

Gonna do a couple portraits in the ref sheet

And one full body
Mainly cause I hate doing full body and I love doing portraits

[vernal nexus]

The lasso, move and transform tools are fixing all the proportion problems I have. Thank goodness.

I learned proportion in art class and I know the theory but I can never put it on the canvas correctly :/

[pastel iris]

I can relate this alot lol

there's no transform tool in traditional art that's why I always feel wonky towards my old traditional arts kek

[vernal nexus]

I feel like it helps with learning too because you see how it looks and then you can maybe try to do that next time. And if not, transform again.

Also sketching over and over again until the hand looks better than before.

Learning art is kinda easier with digital tbh. For me, at least.

[boreal seal]

I'd try digital art, but because of school i'm basically on a computer 24/7 so art is a good way to do something else when i can

[vernal nexus]

Nothing wrong with that! :)

[dreamy ferry]

yo

how do i get the artist role?

made in blender

[grand cave]

From the pins of #creative :P
To get art pinned in #art-gallery you have to post any Stardew related art you’ve made to #creative

[dreamy ferry]

damn

thats kinda hard

fu**

[vernal nexus]

Takes some effort but is doable. ^^

[tropic halo]

Was fairly easy for me cause I draw Shane a bit more than I should

[vernal nexus]

Me but Penny lol

It just took a month of activity.

[tropic halo]

That flew by fast for me

Cause I love talking about art

[vernal nexus]

Also figured moving the lineart/sketch colour discussion here.

I usually draw the sketch stuff in colour because I see it better than black

[tropic halo]

Seeing how other people do their stuff is fascinating to me

[vernal nexus]

Especially when I put three sketches on top of each other to fix things.

[tropic halo]

3 sketches

[vernal nexus]

Oh that's true! i try to analyse how they did stuff like shading, lighting etc to learn.

[tropic halo]

I'm waaaay too lazy for that

[vernal nexus]

Yeah a rough one, one that's a bit finer and another one that's gonna get refined.

[tropic halo]

One sketch max

[vernal nexus]

Sometimes only two sketches.

I do reaaally rough shapes first, then make it finer with each sketch.

[mighty bronze]

!!!

[vernal nexus]

Helps me with proportions and posing.

[tropic halo]

I used to sketch with pink

[tropic halo]

Same but I keep it on the same layer

I press lightly at first then go over with more confident lines

And erase all my construction lines when I'm sure if what I want

[vernal nexus]

Yeah that's a way to do it too^^

[tropic halo]

I've seen people use multiple layers for one sketch tho
Eyes in one layer
Hands on one layer
Hair on one layer

[vernal nexus]

Oh yeah I saw someone do it like that and when they were done they'd merge down.

[mighty bronze]

I don't usually do that but I might for parts that I'm not certain sure and fix them after I flip

[vernal nexus]

I sometimes do that when I wanna add or change something but I'm not sure if it's gonna turn out the way I want.

[tropic halo]

My goal is to just use as little layers as possible cause I get overwhelmed and frustrated quite easily

[vernal nexus]

Oh man I feel that.

I do delete the sketch layers after I'm done with them.

[mighty bronze]

I don't, I keep everything and not merge lol

I work tidy and put everything in folders

[vernal nexus]

ohh yeah I love folders/groups.

Especially clipping folders.

[tropic halo]

Noooo

Keep your sketches

[mighty bronze]

^

[vernal nexus]

Nah i don't need the one that's just lines and circles.

[tropic halo]

I merge my sketch and base colours but I still keep a layer copy of the sketch

[vernal nexus]

I do keep the sketch.

The final sketch.

final countdown starts playing

[tropic halo]

Wifi plss

Wifi plss

[vernal nexus]

pats nae I hope your wifi gets its shit together

[tropic halo]

It's more my phone than anything else
This never happens on my pc

[vernal nexus]

ooh I see.

Mobile Discord being a dick.

[tropic halo]

Exactly

Very stinky

@vernal nexus is there a line missing here? At penny's left leg

[vernal nexus]

Yes it is. 😬

The sketch isn't done yet, just wanted to show the wip.

Should have written wip on it I guess.

;3;

Added the line and made the hair a bit floofier.

Idk if it's dynamic or not but it's not flat anymore.

[exotic snow]

nice!

[vernal nexus]

Ngl that line was giving me a headache because either her leg looked too thin or too thick lol

I also gotta add the clothes folds and stuff.

[exotic snow]

I have trouble with my lines too, but on the jaw

[vernal nexus]

Tiny details.

[exotic snow]

It either makes it too big or too narrow

[tropic halo]

I've kinda mastered the face so portraits come easy
But I can't draw bodies for the life of me

It always looks wrong

[exotic snow]

Oh damn for me its the opposite, men bodies are the easiest for me

[tropic halo]

Men are the worst

[exotic snow]

that angry sad face is too cute

[vernal nexus]

I always make the heads way too big for some reason.

[tropic halo]

They have all these edges and muscles and uggh

[exotic snow]

men's muscles make me go uuuuhhhgasnndsljjffff

[tropic halo]

They make me go

I still have that wip of a muscle man I was drawing
I might just leave it flat coloured and call it a day

[exotic snow]

yeah these days my art progress is really spread out as well

most days i dont even draw anymore

going back to a screenless tablet is too hard when i was already used to my graphics one

[tropic halo]

I have to draw
Cause money
Can't leave clients hanging
But I haven't been drawing much personal stuff

Just been doing a lot of line practices and portrait sketches
But that's about it

[tropic halo]

Me trying to get used to my new screen tab and being unable to

I've just gotten used to not paying attention to my hand but the pc screen
Hard habit to break

[exotic snow]

Yeah it took me a while too, about a week ig

[tropic halo]

Ig I haven't been trying too hard to get used to my new tablet
I rarely even look at it

I'm too comfortable with my tiny ass screen less tab

[exotic snow]

i wish we could switch lol

my arm is still in big motions mode so getting back to tiny ass tablet is ,, a nightmare

[tropic halo]

Big motion gang

I draw from my shoulder

[mighty bronze]

close to end and make the profile \o/

[tropic halo]

You're doing one of those meet the farmer things?

[mighty bronze]

dis, but ima customize and do it in my way, using a SDV bg

[tropic halo]

Ah OK

I just hit randomize when I played so I don't have a set farmer

[mighty bronze]

And I am pretty proud of my evolution in 2 years honestly

[vernal nexus]

Yeah you can really see the improvement! :D

[mighty bronze]

[pastel iris]

I only added eyes to my previous artwork, now I can't tell if this is elliott or sephiroth 🤣

[mighty bronze]

[vernal nexus]

Sephilliot.

Man I like how clean your line art is.

[pastel iris]

@grand cave

[vernal nexus]

I love how you do the eyes! I struggle so much with eyes but this is giving me an idea on how to do it.

[pastel iris]

is that so? all this time I thought you have no problem with eyes

in your style I mean

[vernal nexus]

I can do one fine, and the other is weird.

It's more the perspective than the eye.

[pastel iris]

ah you're talking about 2nd eye for front profile characters? 😆

[vernal nexus]

Front, 2/3, anything that's not complete profile :')

It's always too high or too low.

And even though I know what i'm doing wrong I never know how to do it better.

Same with dynamic poses I know what's off, but no idea how to fix it.

[pastel iris]

well, and the way you draw the shape of the eyes is based on irl eyes eh

pretty sure there has to be lots of tutorials for that

[vernal nexus]

It is yeah.

[tropic halo]

i wish my dumb wifi would allow me to see smookie's art

sigh

for now it just a grey box

[tropic halo]

"always draw both eyes at the same time"
that advice has helped me a lot
not sure if itll do the same for you
but perfecting one eye and then trying to perfect the other is a lot harder than doing them at the same time

just one line for the left eye? draw the same line for the right

[vernal nexus]

Oh

That's worth a shot

I always did one then tried to do the other according to perspective shift

[tropic halo]

you can always just draw a curved horizontal line and then use that to keep both eyes on the same level

[vernal nexus]

Yeah I did that with the current thing and it worked a bit better.

I'm using this as an opportunity to learn hands, eyes, poses.

I know it still looks stiff-ish but I don't want it to be all swooshy, it's more like a slow dance.

[tropic halo]

i struggle a lot with poses

and full body stuff

but a nice cheat for drawing hands is to just use your own as reference

[grand cave]

;OO BEAUTIFUL

[vernal nexus]

Yeah I've been doing weird hand poses the entire time but it's kinda difficult when you're drawing couple stuff haha

[tropic halo]

me taking a picture of my holding my own hand

[vernal nexus]

how

[tropic halo]

timer

i have 5 seconds to get it right

or else death

[pastel iris]

even with timer I can't even do that lol

[tropic halo]

i just prop my phone up against my laptop

[exotic snow]

i always draw manly hands with long bony fingers so my hands wont even work as reference

[pastel iris]

meh, man or women hands, I always use my own hands as reference lol

[exotic snow]

so i rely on my big brain imagination 🧠

[vernal nexus]

I wish I had imagination ugh

[exotic snow]

i have short fingers 😔

[tropic halo]

same

[pastel iris]

even though my hand got some blood vessels popping out

[tropic halo]

not same to that
same to the no imagination thing

my fingers are quite long

[exotic snow]

god i love veins on hands

[tropic halo]

and boney

[exotic snow]

its almost a fetish at this point

[vernal nexus]

Mine are also long-ish and boney lol

[tropic halo]

woah

[exotic snow]

damn bony hands? gib me

[vernal nexus]

I always draw fingers way too thicc

[exotic snow]

lol I'm the opposite, often I have to add thickness to the fingers

[pastel iris]

lol ama

you don't have some veins in yours?

[exotic snow]

i have one... on my left

back of my hand

[tropic halo]

i have veins in mine
but they show more due to my light skintone and from being boney than from bulging

[exotic snow]

its not very visible

[pastel iris]

I personally got my veins all the way to my elbow, in order to draw female arms at least, I only skip the veins kek

[exotic snow]

i love drawing arm muscles on men but i never thought much about veins, hmmm

[vernal nexus]

Sometimes I purposely skip drawing some things because it looks weird, like when you're drawing individual teeth or laughing lines in someone's face but it ends up looking really really old.

[tropic halo]

ive only drawn muscles once

didnt even shade it

[exotic snow]

i never draw wrinkles or laughing lines or any lines on the face for that matter idk

[vernal nexus]

I try to make faces more expressive but then it looks weird and I rather go back to emotionless faces.

[exotic snow]

i just draw teef like this

[pastel iris]

veins doesn't seem to go well with lots of style, I mean you can just add it but it kinda gives impression as if your character is going to punch someone or trying to hold their pain

[exotic snow]

ooo buff

[exotic snow]

Mhm, veins only show when there is tension ig

in most cases

[tropic halo]

this will stay a forever wip maybe
unless i suddenly get some proper painting skills

[pastel iris]

as for me, I can't even draw muscle-less men lol

[vernal nexus]

I always end up drawing women who look way too muscly but man-muscly not woman-muscly :|

[tropic halo]

the faces isnt even too bad
I just hate how smooth i painted it
it was my first and last time using blenders

[pastel iris]

everytime I tried to draw skinny men, I ended up give some steroids on them 😆

[grand cave]

Amaryn the glow to all your drawings is so soothing to the eyes, it’s incredible

[exotic snow]

thank you!!

[tropic halo]

yeah your art has that sexy manhua boy look that i love

an artist ik
yvoi
does a style like that as well

his art is sexy

[exotic snow]

tysm!

oh? lemme google

aaah their art is soo nice

my art is inspired by yura, a japanese artist

[tropic halo]

he has a youtube channel

[exotic snow]

she is a goddess tbh her art is my everything

[tropic halo]

i watch and rewatch his speedpaints religiously

ooo ill look her up

my art is inspired by a lot of random artists

the way i colour, line, sketch

[exotic snow]

you might not find her that easily tho since she only works for a BL doujin company atm

[exotic snow]

i try to incorporate different things i like in other artists' art into my own too, thats how artstyles develop generally i think

[tropic halo]

yup

and as you improves it changed a lot

[exotic snow]

oof the time when i struggled w my artstyle

[tropic halo]

my colour choices are almost all inspired by max (cryptidw00rm)

his colours are muah

love em

[exotic snow]

oh yeah i can def see it in your art

his palette is very refreshing

[tropic halo]

i never really cared much about art style tbh
i was just drawing just to draw

it comes naturally

a lot of people fixate so much on perfecting their artstyle that they lose out on basic stuff like proper anatomy and colours

[exotic snow]

good thing i actually like learning anat

since its vvvvv important

colour theory was another thing i was obsessed about lol

[vernal nexus]

I miss art class in school which taught me a lot of stuff about anatomy, perspective, styles, colours etc.

[pastel iris]

gosh this chat is suddenly rolls so fast

[tropic halo]

art classes at my school was gross

i hated art til i graduated

[exotic snow]

my GCSE art days were... chaotic lol

[tropic halo]

did a lot of technical stuff
and my teacher was just a bitch

i failed so much because she just hated the stuff i did

[exotic snow]

some guy in my class just burnt some wooden blocks and got an A* for his final grade

[pastel iris]

sad thing in my art class is they only taught us about anatomy of generic models

[tropic halo]

we did block printing once and we were allowed to carve anything we wanted
i did a lil comic boy
and my teacher gave me 20%

[exotic snow]

i did too but i did a whole sculpture of this human head,, it was.. well, fun

[pastel iris]

so I didn't get taught about plus sized anatomy nor even skinny ones lol

[exotic snow]

thats so unfair

[tropic halo]

i really only had fun when we did portraits and when we did perspective

[exotic snow]

but i heard art teachers have this unusual hate towards comic/anime styled things

[tropic halo]

yeah it was hella unfair
she didnt even have a good reason to

[vernal nexus]

I think we never had plus size anatomy either but we did sketching by model with one of our class sitting on a chair and we had to sketch him from wherever we saw him.

[tropic halo]

we never did any body anatomy stuff

[exotic snow]

ahhh i never did life sketching before

[pastel iris]

one my teacher on the other hand adores stylized stuff than realistic lol

[tropic halo]

we drew generic fruit bowls tho

lots of drawing

[pastel iris]

though his bias is towards western cartoon than animes, he actually tolerates it

[tropic halo]

i have a folder filled with just
random compositions

[vernal nexus]

We actually did a lot in art class, lots of different media and styles like impressionism, expressionism, naturalism etc

[tropic halo]

yeah
we did a lot of stuff
but funnily enough we never got around to drawing actual human bodies

we even did mosaics and shit

[pastel iris]

mosaics heck

[exotic snow]

yeah same ^ no human sketches

[tropic halo]

and caricatures
probably why i suck at drawing full bodies and poses now
did get taught anatomy

i learn best when i have someone teaching me

[pastel iris]

if I were to draw mosaics back then, he'd be asking me like "do you want your art belongs in animation studios or museums?"

[exotic snow]

well I'd say art youtubers did the remaining 90% of my learning curve

[exotic snow]

thats such a weird question lmao

[vernal nexus]

I always had issues following tutorials, they don't help me at all :(

[pastel iris]

weird or no, his bias is clear, I know him well

[vernal nexus]

I learn better when someone gives me a prompt and I try to figure it out on my own, and by looking at references.

[exotic snow]

i find japanese tutorials much easier to follow than english ones

[vernal nexus]

Tutorials only ever tell me what to do, not how to do it.

[exotic snow]

but mostly because they mention points that are more.. idk, open to interpretation ig

the ones with demonstrations are best then

[pastel iris]

good thing is lots of my pals loved the way he teach us, despite all the bias

[vernal nexus]

Though I like watching CTRL Paint vids. They're interesting because he actually tells me how to do stuff better.

Like how to do better sketches.

[tropic halo]

we didnt draw mosaics

we pasted stuff

[exotic snow]

i find tutorials by さいとう なおき on youtube v helpful so, if yall want you can check him out

[tropic halo]

paper, glass, cloth

small pieces of it
into patterns

the school was just allowing us to experience everything

to see what you liked best

[exotic snow]

that actually sounds so fun

[tropic halo]

yeah we did a lot of random crap

[exotic snow]

back then our teacher didnt guide us into doing art in any particular form, we were free to do whatever we want however we want provided that it fit the theme

[tropic halo]

pointillism was very painful

[vernal nexus]

Is that a guy with a hat? I don't speak Japanese so I can't even read the video titles if that's actually him. ;3;

[pastel iris]

back then my class is specialized in animations, so no wonder if the teachers pushed us in stylized arts than realistic ones

[exotic snow]

^ yup, the one w the hat

[tropic halo]

eh
it wasnt really about realism

[exotic snow]

if you give me a link ill translate the main points for you (if you want)

[tropic halo]

it was just about experiencing different medias

[pastel iris]

yeah including different medias as well kek

hard to word these stuff oof

[tropic halo]

we did weaving and such

[pastel iris]

we're pushing in digital drawings compared to other medias

[tropic halo]

lernt how to make gift bags

that one was fun
never did get that bag back...

[exotic snow]

i wish we did more crafty stuff ^

i used to do glitch art back then, good times

tho it was actually my computer which did 99% of the work for me lmao

[pastel iris]

crafting is only 1 semester for me lol

[vernal nexus]

I wish we did less crafty stuff. We did a weird shoebox thingy one time.

[pastel iris]

after that, kaput

[vernal nexus]

Though I like sculpting.

Or soap carving, that was nice.

[pastel iris]

@mighty bronze by the way smook, did you draw that stardrop using shape tool?

[tropic halo]

we did it all
we did have to make and art box kit supply thing
design it
then store all your supplies in it
that was fun

i put a wig and googly eyes on one of my dad's old cd holder things and called it kevin

[pastel iris]

the only crafting we did back then is just molding clay, which I'm really really suck at lol

[tropic halo]

it became the collective child of everyone in my class

[pastel iris]

no weaving, knitting and stuff

[exotic snow]

i dont even remember if we did any crafting, it was so long ago for me lmao

[tropic halo]

it was fairly long ago for me as well
that was back in grades 7 and 8

[exotic snow]

and i have short term memory lol

[tropic halo]

just started highschool so they eased us into art with crafts

[exotic snow]

havent had art classes since my gcse's

[tropic halo]

grades 10 and 11 was the serious stuff
preparing us for exams and such

[exotic snow]

our GCSE art exam was 13 hours long it was excruciating lol

[mighty bronze]

ping pong I used a brush + shift to draw the lines heh

[exotic snow]

but im glad i didnt have to do theory based exams

[pastel iris]

god theory exams sucks ass

[pastel iris]

ah I see

[tropic halo]

covid sliced my exam in half

we didnt get to do theory

[pastel iris]

it's almost looks like as if you snitch the star shape from shape tool kek

[tropic halo]

and we only did half of the practical

[exotic snow]

i wish, i did all my law exams online with cam/mic on ;_;

[tropic halo]

they ended up just using the pieces we did through the year

the art journal is what fucked me over tho
after i typed 150+ pages i just said fuck it and gave up

still passed tho

[exotic snow]

150- holy moly

[tropic halo]

i hate online
main reason why i took a gap year

i dont want to have to do online classes

ik for a fact i wont be able to focus on anything

[pastel iris]

as if teachers going to check all those 150 pages of all students anyway 🤣

[exotic snow]

what did you have to do for your art journal?

[tropic halo]

they do actually

[pastel iris]

that's probably why they just allows you to pass the test, pretty much same thing just like here

I remember when every students have to do 100 pages of religious stuff that I don't remember, and my teacher literally only checked 10 pages on the front, gave the score and that's it

he didn't even read all those damn texts lmao

[tropic halo]

its a report on all the 10 pieces we did through the 2 years (grades 10 and 11)
each student has to write a whole essay about their piece. what it mean, how it correlates to their topic, tools used, so on so forth. then you have to do research on the art type. (mixed media, graphic, drawing, etc). more research on famous local artists in those fields. it has to be decorated to reflect your topic. and a couple more stuff i forgot

[exotic snow]

oof that sounds hectic

[tropic halo]

its not just a regular test for school
these are serious test that determine if you can get into college for art or if you can get a job in the art field. its checked by the examination council. so its pretty serious stuff

[exotic snow]

but i remember doing something similar

[tropic halo]

and they read through and annotate stuff

[exotic snow]

except that it's only a couple of pages long

[tropic halo]

yeah its a lot
you also need a lot of pictures

[pastel iris]

ah, you didn't say that beforehand, then no wonder

mine's pretty much regular test

[tropic halo]

progress pics, pics of you with your art piece, pics of the completed thing

pics of the artists you researched, pics of their work
lots of random crap

[pastel iris]

also guys

[tropic halo]

thats why they let us start the moment we enter grade 10
but i didnt start doing any of my art pieces til the latter half of grade 11
wasnt even planning to pass

[pastel iris]

can you draw bewbs accurately based on cup sizes?

[exotic snow]

'pics of you with your art piece' - this one wouldve been the hardest one for me to take lmao i hate taking pics of myself

[tropic halo]

same

[exotic snow]

probably? ill just look at myself lol

[pastel iris]

back then I tried B cup, when I ask someone's feedback it turns out I draw D cup 🤣

[tropic halo]

but i had to do what i had to do

and i dont even draw boobs
too much work

[exotic snow]

im still better at drawing dicks than tits lol

[tropic halo]

my most recent attempt

[pastel iris]

uh I mean like.. you know.. dicks are usually covered almost completely when you draw arts in general

unlike bewbs

[exotic snow]

fair point, but i guess i dont draw 'art in general'... LMAOSKDFJLS

weighting is hard to grasp for boobs honestly, but i dont really draw girls so im not good at it

[tropic halo]

i draw girls and guys equally
i just dont do full bodies of em
just portraits

[exotic snow]

fastest way to improve would be to get more irl references

[pastel iris]

such a weak statement ama, your 'general arts' are literally posted in #creative lol

[exotic snow]

mhm, i only post my SFW arts here tho

[pastel iris]

yeah I mean I'm talking about the sfw

if people were to draw sfw arts, ducks are usually covered completely or some people may draw a very little bulge that's nearly almost invisible

[exotic snow]

or the infamous lightsabers

[pastel iris]

bewbs always exists in sfw nor nsfw

[exotic snow]

boobs come in different shapes and sizes too

perkiness and distance between the two lumps

[pastel iris]

nowdays I draw girls more often than guys, yet I'm still making mistakes in bewb sizes

[exotic snow]

there are just a lot of variables

i mean, it just comes to how often you see them irl; the more familiar you are with a body part, the better you can draw it (in most cases)

[warm finch]

^

[tropic halo]

unless youre me

boobs dont exist at all

[exotic snow]

oh?

[pastel iris]

I maybe getting better than my past self, at least my inaccuracy rn is only 1 cup difference (for instance I draw B cup, may ended up drawing C) , not 2 or 3 (intends to draw B cup, ended up drawing D-F cup)

[warm finch]

Essentially the more tiddies i draw the more familiar i am with how to draw tiddies area

[tropic halo]

i dont even know the different cup sizes

[exotic snow]

same with me with dicks

[pastel iris]

then I'd say mostly exists than always exists for sfw

[warm finch]

Everyone in the chat:

[exotic snow]

i had to look it up too, so now that i know mine i can more or less speculate

[tropic halo]

that one muscle man drawing i did had more boobs than any girl ive ever drawn

[exotic snow]

LMAO

[warm finch]

I like drawing my characters with a b-c cup... but often i ended up drawing a cup bigger

[exotic snow]

man tits are hot tho

[warm finch]

I remember i used to draw a cup a lot cuz i was flatter back then

[pastel iris]

I'm not even familiar with cup sizes nae, gosh I'm not even a woman irl lol

[warm finch]

I think it has something to do with my own size

[vernal nexus]

Cup sizes are dependant on the band size so you can't really tell what cup size someone is drawing.

[warm finch]

The only thing i draw that I’m proud of is poros

[tropic halo]

me not even knowing my own cup size

[pastel iris]

how do you figure out bra size anyway, testing random bra 1 by 1 or something

or ask someone to measure it