creative-discussion

[spiral gale]

WHAAAAAT SHOULD I WORK ON NOW?

[ember narwhal]

but i also dont use ig as much as tumblr so

[spiral gale]

i just use twitt :'''')

[ember narwhal]

haha boom

[elfin dagger]

BARK one

I will

share your beautiful fanarts Mirax e

[ember narwhal]

t ha en k ds

i only have 3 posts on my ig cuz i jus tmade the account 4 days a go but xD

[still field]

pathetic, my ig acc is prolly 3 years old by now and i have almost the same amount as posts as my followers (50 posts 30 follows iirc)

[ember narwhal]

lolol

[elfin dagger]

Oof xD

[still field]

idr

[elfin dagger]

IG's algorithm is really shit though

[still field]

yeah uh, i just have bad memory, i have 71 posts and 66 followers

IG's algorithm is really shit though
there it is, the truth

[ember narwhal]

i dont even tag my sdv posts on there, i probably should

[elfin dagger]

Yeee

In a way to get big attention in IG is that you gotta draw the aesthetic trends, dtiys, and also have a cutesy art style majority from what I've seen lolol

[still field]

and you also need to be someone who does stupidly useless 'life haccs'

[elfin dagger]

Pfft yee

[ember narwhal]

eww

i hate buying into trendy styles xD

[elfin dagger]

Sameeee

[ember narwhal]

like i remember from college, the "in" style was the one where you pretend like you dont know how to draw

and everyone who had that style was like instantly a popular kid

it was nauseating tbh, its harsh but like i spent a lot of time honing my realism skills and i got straight up ignored

[still field]

i remember being laughed at sometimes bc i just honestly like a few anime styles

but yk, it wasnt too bad

[elfin dagger]

Yikes guys ;;"

[still field]

i don't even know if anime art style is a popular trend, i just like drawing like that bc to me it looks good

[ember narwhal]

like having your own style is fine but like copying someone elses or just drawing in a certain style cause its popular is fake imo

[still field]

agreed

[elfin dagger]

Big agreee

[ember narwhal]

i remember we had an art show at the beginning of every year, where all the illustration students had to submit a piece for a theme

and they had a guest artist judge dcome in and pick his four favorites

legit, the four he picked were all done in a trendy style

i was like. get the fuck outta here

i did a big scale oil painting with lots of detail and it got completely looked over for someone drawing like a 3 year old xDDD

[still field]

i'm-

why, what, how

[ember narwhal]

idk, but i was legitimately pissed walking out of that art show

[elfin dagger]

Ughh that would really pissed me off

[still field]

same

[ember narwhal]

not that mine didnt get chosen, but that there were a lot of really skillful pieces in there that got zero recognition just cuz the style wasnt trendy

[elfin dagger]

Reminds me that one Hero Design contest in my school, remembering it pissed me off again

[ember narwhal]

thats probbablly the worst aspect of going to a small art college. its so cliquey and the popular kids are popular just because of their art style

so they get all the attention even though they are already popular and really dont need it

but anyway

[still field]

i'm already scared of entering art college lmao

[ember narwhal]

lmao yeah. thats why i intentionally dont submit to contests but we literally had to in college

[elfin dagger]

That's a big bummer yikes-

[ember narwhal]

art college is like. its helpful for some people, and literally the opposite of helpful for others (me)

[still field]

^

[ember narwhal]

art college is responsible for me inehrently being stressed whenever i make art

but i was also largely self taught and already had a lot of skills before going, so tbh, i really probably would have been better off not going at all. but if you still have a lot of work to do on basic skills i think it would be more beneficial to go

i basicallly already knew a lot of stuff that they were teaching. i mean i did learn a little bit but not really enough to justify paying so much for it and giving me so much mental health trouble

i would say only go to art college after thoroughly researching different colleges, and if you are looking to go into a field where you will nto be able to teach yourself the skills you need

liek for example, doing 3d modelling or game animations. you need access to software to learn how to do it and its a very technical process that can be difficult to teach yourself, and there are many other areas that you might want to learn in order to be a good candidate for that type of position. so thats a college worthy endeavour

but if you are interested in just like, idk, opening your own gallery and selling your paintings... you dont need an art degree for that. at least my college program barely even taught me about the finance/marketing side of that kind of thing. it would be more cost effective to take individual classes on marketing and entrepreneuring stuff

but anyway.... lmao that was a lot of info, sorry

[elfin dagger]

nahh its alright fam, the info you gave are interesting ee 👀

[mighty bronze]

people mostly draw to have fun and waste time on something productive heh

rarely you see someone applying for an art college and get a job out of it

like game designer or something

idk

[regal oyster]

weezard wip

i also notice that depending on what animation school you go to will absolutely define your animation / art style which is... why there's a lot of samey looking animation in the professional field

[ember narwhal]

yeah, teaching styles vastly varies among professors, like they all have a unique way they teach you basic things. at my college there was one life drawing teacher notorious for strictly enforcing a very specific way of learning how to draw from observation

worked for some people, didnt work for others. i find this method of teaching too strict and can easily be detrimental for some

its basically completely random and everyone is allowed to teach in a different way

[spiral gale]

yeah tahts kinda like saying

you HAVE to make clean lines or your art is invalid

and that weeza is bebi

[ember narwhal]

ah yes elliott's line "what did i do today? i'll just say it takes a lot of work to maintain this rugged physique" buff elliott CONFIRMED

[gloomy turtle]

he needs too keep his chin tight

[spiral gale]

sweats

[gloomy turtle]

long nose there

[still field]

ah yes elliott's line "what did i do today? i'll just say it takes a lot of work to maintain this rugged physique" buff elliott CONFIRMED
i'm like 100% sure he has workout thingies hidden somewhere in his cabin, and also his "i did some exercise inside my cabin today" line

ah yes, it's all coming together.

[spiral gale]

nose where

[ember narwhal]

hehehe

dont worry im planning a buff elliott pinup at some point here

[unkempt tinsel]

after ranting about one of my favorite characters in anime ever i had to draw him and plan to make it nice and scan because it's been a while, missed him 😔 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/265599867835908096/735993399479500800/20200723_185340.jpg

crappy phone pic because that's all i can do rn

[still field]

dont worry im planning a buff elliott pinup at some point here
oml yos

[ember narwhal]

babby

[still field]

and oml, jade that's giving me nostalgic feelings-

[unkempt tinsel]

shin was the original husbando for young jade.... there are few characters i love more than sebastian

[echo mesa]

u ever jus working on a drawing and take a moment 2 quietly scream bc learning new things is Hard

[pastel nimbus]

every day

[still field]

why yes, every day i scream bc i look at my drawing and think it looks perfect to 2 seconds later notice the flaw and begin to think it's the worst drawing i've ever done

[echo mesa]

im gon eat all the art in the world

trying 2 improve lighting is fun at least
perspective is jus Whack

[still field]

ah yes, perspective

the one word of my nightmares

[echo mesa]

i hav managed to draw: an empty room

[grand cave]

Woah is that your floor drawing or a texture

[echo mesa]

thas me drawing

many layers of scribbles eventually mushed

[grand cave]

holy that looks good

YOUR COLOURING STYLE IS SO UNIQUE AAAAAA

[echo mesa]

thank ;D

im drawing a big window across the front that she's gazing out hopefully that turns out aight, im not experienced with glass or bricks

[elfin dagger]

Yooo it looks hella niceee >:0

[echo mesa]

thank ;D

[elfin dagger]

npp >;0

[still field]

GUYS- i think i just found my new best style, and i'm once again very proud??

[elfin dagger]

Ooo nicee mann 👀 ✨

[grand cave]

Very cute!

[gloomy turtle]

thought the dots were eyes for a sec

very cute

[still field]

thought the dots were eyes for a sec
Lmaooo

[grand cave]

Wait are they not

[elfin dagger]

I thought there are eyes were as well

[misty radish]

Whos yalls favorite nps

Npc

Mine is penny but like id date all of them ngl

[grand cave]

This is the creative channels..
Unless you are asking for art related things. Man I swear someone asks this everyday h
Mines Elliott, all the way. Has been for 4.5 irl years. Yet I don’t play anymore so..

[elfin dagger]

Shane and Elliott for me hhgh

[echo mesa]

i lov them all, but i default to drawing abigail and penny the most

[grand cave]

Last night quick doodles

[regal oyster]

trying to think of more good animation sequences to do for this... portfolio of sorts 👁️

[elfin dagger]

Aaa looking forward to see more of your animations ;;; ✨

[unkempt tinsel]

ooo have fun!

still thinking bout him.... 😔

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/265599867835908096/736021951641944184/unknown.png

i still have the muscle memory of drawing him SO MANY TIMES years ago

[elfin dagger]

He's so pretty >:"00

[lament turtle]

Omg is that shin

[leaden galleon]

hey how cringe is fic in this fandom real quick question

[unkempt tinsel]

yes solo

and arin i wouldn't consider any of the fic cringe but that's with bias, what i've read has always been pretty enjoyable

one thing that might be different in comparison to other fandoms, depending, is that many fics involve OCs which is kind of expected because of farmer character, but there's plenty of fics without them or the farmer character is neutral/unstated

[leaden galleon]

Ok epic [slaps this like flex tape on the wall and BOLTS] https://docs.google.com/document/d/10r3aOGeqA_xlnVa3z886z4nnKx-tgP3ufiA_mp6iqik/edit

Its only 200 words and gay

[unkempt tinsel]

aww!

you're more than welcome to share more fics here

[leaden galleon]

its cool!! Im just in an Epic Dank Gamer fandom so im just “oogrrrgg am i gonna get called names”

[unkempt tinsel]

nawww

i read it! that was super cute

fluff is embraced, and dare i say, encouraged

[echo mesa]

^^

[unkempt tinsel]

will also offer to fight anyone who makes fun of you for it

ʕงʘᴥʘʔง

[leaden galleon]

god i love this fandom so much

[lament turtle]

writers

[leaden galleon]

[gordon ramsey voice] finally, i can be myself without being called slurs

[unkempt tinsel]

yeah that definitely doesn't fly here

a pretty significant chunk of sdv's community is lgbt+

[lament turtle]

Omg i'm sorry that ever happened

[unkempt tinsel]

yeah, it rly shouldn't be okay anywhere ):

[leaden galleon]

im in the tf2 community so. Hrrg

[regal oyster]

don't tell me you hung around the cesspool that is tf2chan

(also that fic is very cute 💕)

[ember narwhal]

im working on more voltron art now ; A ;

this is probably the only part of this painting that will get finished lmao

me: POSTS WIP

never touches it again

[gloomy turtle]

shiro and keith

nice

[mighty bronze]

[echo mesa]

i rly like how u do their hair
mostly blond dudes undercut

[ember narwhal]

thankk

his hair is actually whitish gray but its a sunset so its all tinted arnge uwu

i want it to rain again all day so i can open the windows and get that rain smell in here. i feel so much more relaxed that way D: then i could just do infinite art

[elfin dagger]

Yoooo love the wip so farrr, im a big sucker for grundgy painterly style

[ember narwhal]

thankkk

my painting style is so messy lmao

idk how ppl get that wierdly perfectly clean stuff with like gradients and shit

[echo mesa]

witchcraft probably

[ember narwhal]

like ive seen the process, its literally drawing the same line 200 times until its just exactly perfect the way they want, then draw the next line 200 times, idk how those ppl dont go insane

[echo mesa]

o, ye
i redrew lines a lot for my latest drawing
i bet they secretly are insane from it

[ember narwhal]

lmaoo

its literall y : draw undo draw undo draw undo draw undo draw undo draw undo draw undo draw undo draw undo draw undo

like

xD

[echo mesa]

prtty much
i was drawing on a whiteboard the other day
and tried to find the undo button???

[ember narwhal]

i do that when i use a sketchbook

then i have a split second of panic

[echo mesa]

pro-tip: sketch in pen in sketchbooks
then u never try to undo bc Pen

i sketch in pen bc the smudgy of pencils bugs me lol

[ember narwhal]

except my art style relies on eraser to be legible as a d rawing

xD

then again i also press so damn hard the lines dont erase all the way

[echo mesa]

xD

[lament turtle]

Hi guys I’m trying pixel art and this is what I have so far

Hi! I like it, try uploading the file itself instead of a phone screenshot so we can see it clearly

[mossy leaf]

I believe you can take a screenshot on macbook by pressing Shift+command+4 not sure since i never used macbooks

[ember narwhal]

gotta love the good old literal printscreen key on windows

[plain sun]

i think it's actually command+shift+3

[grand cave]

Its both!

command+shift+3 is for your entire screen, Shift+command+4 is for selecting part of your screen.

[plain sun]

oh cool

[lament turtle]

I use shift+command+5 so I can have both options (whole screen or just part of it)

But here is my progress again ^.^

[mossy leaf]

owo its looks very cool I love how much detail there is even though it is pixel art

[lament turtle]

Thank you ;-;

[elfin dagger]

mmh wip again, vampire elli and werewolf shane au akxjekw

so many wips that i know im not gonna finish

[echo mesa]

idk who that is in the bottom corner but i dont trust them

[elfin dagger]

Its a video about Shane Dawnson-

[echo mesa]

makes sense then

[echo mesa]

ive come 2 the conclusion reference sheets r the best
bc it means thinking of Outfits

[nimble imp]

silas molests groot for 2 hours straight while logic cries in front of 90k people

I mean, he’s supposed to be crying tears of joy but he just looks high lmfao

[grand cave]

LMFAO

I adore your artstyle so fokin much hhhhhhhhhhh

[nimble imp]

tyyyyyy

[elfin dagger]

I dun remember if I posted these doodles here, but uhh- some doodle fanarts of fanon mascots that belongs to other peeps

I've never draw non human ones much so these were fun to do

[pulsar sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHEFz1QDex4

finished this morning

[unkempt tinsel]

y'alls wips look great, i love ur stuff potato! you draw monsterly people really well

also @ember narwhal i saw what you said in creative, no one on the staff team skips anything on purpose :P please just give us a heads up if you notice we're pinning stuff past what you posted, if it's sdv related it'll get pinned and we go through it all manually

and that's pretty cool coriel :)

[ember narwhal]

oh oky sorry, iddint mean that to be a callout post, just meant it in a funny way xD

[unkempt tinsel]

i know just don't think we passed over it intentionally, you're welcome to link to it and let us know and stuff

[ember narwhal]

as in, i should not post at 2 am xD

nah its ok its not that big of a deal uwu

[unkempt tinsel]

i feel u sometimes i post in the middle of the night too

[ember narwhal]

i post some of my best works at like 3 am my time on tumblr and then wonder why it gets no notes xD

[elfin dagger]

y'alls wips look great, i love ur stuff potato! you draw monsterly people really well
aaa thank you 💖

[mighty bronze]

Some more 3 point perspective practice

And I donut like clouds

They look worse than farts smh

[pure marlin]

I have a few questions if anyone has a Etsy(1-2years)? I want to know if it’s worth it.

[spiral gale]

why do people keep leaving me to the chance to do this

[lament turtle]

im not sure what you mean

[spiral gale]

bOOT

[ember narwhal]

every time i open this file i just close it again cuz i dont wanna draw backgrounds

and drawing comics is hard even if its just 5 panels

i do a lot of open, work on the face / parts i know how to paint w my eyes closed, get overwhelmed by the entire other 80% of the drawing, close the file and dont touch it again for 3 weeks, only to open it again, work in it for 30 seconds nad then close it again for a month lol

open it, be like oh yeah i have to do the hands, closes file and forgets it exists LOL

[mighty bronze]

Just draw floating bodies and that's it

[ember narwhal]

lmaooo

[tropic halo]

art is hard
i might end up scrapping this

[coral adder]

but thats so good

[mighty bronze]

yeah, the pose looks good so far

[oblique fable]

I'm gonna stardewify some Steven Universe characters, I've already done Rose - who should i do next?

[still field]

i don't watch SU so i don't really know...

[rich delta]

lapis!

[sullen herald]

Anyone know any random art concept generators?

[still field]

i remember seeing a link to one on tumblr, but i don't remember it anymore ;-;

[sullen herald]

aw man >:(

a lot of generators can be a little too random and that makes it a little hard to visualize

[still field]

i did remember seeing something like "space delivery man" on it

[sullen herald]

I googled it, and nothin bahaha

[still field]

[mighty bronze]

I wonder if these squares are perfect for a grid photo practice

trying to copy an image

[rich delta]

if they're symmetrical squares that fit over the area you wanna draw, then it's perf

[mighty bronze]

It will be hard to do a portrait but aaaa

[fringe gyro]

new hyena OC 👀

[mighty bronze]

[unkempt tinsel]

aw awesome!

[fringe gyro]

:D

[fringe gyro]

😤

[sand flame]

Nice!

[unkempt tinsel]

i'm lovin the clean lines and their expression

[fringe gyro]

thank uuuu

[mighty bronze]

nice beautiful baby

[glossy steppe]

oh hold on

i posted the wrong one :x oops

[mighty bronze]

Sketching the human skull using grid technique, I am aware the teeth might not be perfectly symmetrical

And other parts oof

Ima shade it and it will look better I hope

[mighty bronze]

Aaand it didn't...

[mighty bronze]

Initially I did the shades bad but my brother made some adjustments to make me happy

[spiral gale]

thats hot 😳

[flint cipher]

Spoopy

Wip

[tropic halo]

how cute

[flint cipher]

Oh no

I just realised

I have to draw the face now

[tropic halo]

face easy

two dots for eyes

and two lines for the mouth and nose

[flint cipher]

Beautiful

[tropic halo]

hehe

[rustic plume]

I love it

Everything about it is /chef kiss

[flint cipher]

Ty

[still field]

i'm trying to draw the stardew peeps as pokemon and so far i only feel like showing sam, the rest doesn't look too good :'D

[devout stream]

3 of my farmers reppin some swag

[lament turtle]

yesssss

[ember narwhal]

actually i retract the statement about drawing everyone buff as a joke,

cuz i definitely dont mean it as a joke when i ddraw seb buff

it were a joke the 1st time and then i kept doing it LMAO

also if shane is considered the dad-bod bachelor, how come theres no plus size bachelorettes 🤔 someone should fix that

[mighty bronze]

wow

[lament turtle]

i think their watermark is in the corner

oh kay

[ember narwhal]

lmao okay then

das hot tho

[jagged moss]

okay have fun with it

[ember narwhal]

i think u also need to still source art that you post that isnt yours even if you dont like it

or u can probably just delete it if u really dont want to

[jagged moss]

fine

it's sourced

[lament turtle]

would rather not see someone talk negatively about another person's art

[ember narwhal]

that as well

its a channel rule

[jagged moss]

fine

there

happy

[ember narwhal]

yeah man just make sure to follow the channel rules when u post, thats all, and dont feel obligated to contribue to a conversation if it makes u uncomfortable either, theres nothing wrong with that

[jagged moss]

i was trying to play along. i personally don't like it but you rubbed it in

[ember narwhal]

sorry?

all i did was post that it would be funny if someone drew a buff shane, thats all

[jagged moss]

i wanted to provide additional content to add that, yes, content that youre looking for is available. i hate it, but the watermark is there and i do not wish to provide source because their style is unique and they have a watermark. if my words were taken negatively, so be it. i'm sorry about that. the limitation of the medium is like that. but i'm also hurt by being passively aggressed on

[unkempt tinsel]

hey guys, we should move on from this since it doesn't seem to be going anywhere. let's just all try to be kind and respectful to one another and you're free to continue it off-server, seems like there was some misunderstanding happening

[jagged moss]

it was. i just wanted to say my piece. i'm done with this

[ember narwhal]

just wanted to remind about channel rules, thats all, it wasnt meant as a personal attack

[unkempt tinsel]

i doodled huang from story of seasons: friends of mineral town, his hair was a lot of fun

[ember narwhal]

uwu

[ember narwhal]

my point still stands about plus size bachelorettes. where they

id draw them myself but ive already proved to myself that i cant draw women lmao

if anyone draws one ping me plz

[mighty bronze]

Draw buff women than kek

[ember narwhal]

oh i do

.... sometimes

[mighty bronze]

[ember narwhal]

but like i said.... women..... how do....... ive forgotten all the (small) i know about anatomy when i draw women pfft

its like my brain turns off

[mighty bronze]

Give it time

[ember narwhal]

i did do this commission for someone of a very badass buff lady

it was just a portrait tho. but i still really love this character

[mighty bronze]

Yeah that's weeeew

[ember narwhal]

i wish i got to draw her fullbody ; - ;

[mighty bronze]

How would you usually practice on woman anatomy?

[ember narwhal]

oh uhhhh

i think about it really hard LOL

i literally do everything i possibly can to not look up reference because im lazy and add brain says i dont have time for that

its the most irrational thing about my process

[mighty bronze]

So like studying the skeleton, poses, basic shapes

[unkempt tinsel]

th-thanks for the uwu

[hallow fossil]

yw

[ember narwhal]

and i feel weird about using google for references, cause u never know if that shits copywrited or someones gonna see ur work and connect the dots and accuse u of stealing

yw

jade

all i could think when i saw it was uwu cause its so uwu yknow

[mighty bronze]

But using reference isn't wrong

You ain't copying you're experimenting

[ember narwhal]

i mean i guess i gotta find another way to sketch the anatomy/pose besides with muscle structure or just learn female muscle structure, which is slightly different but basically the same lmao

more just porportions

yeah ur right

[unkempt tinsel]

thanks

[ember narwhal]

uwu

[hot hedge]

[unkempt tinsel]

it's just pretty discouraging to post art and it only really gets acknowledged with an uwu

[still field]

i know how you feel, since there was a time my art wouldn't get acknowledged at all

but i guess i get that, my art wasn't exactly outstanding

[urban nexus]

ping me i'll acknowledge all ur arts (if i happen to be awake at the time)

[ember narwhal]

sorry i am bad at commenting on art lmao

did u post it in the creative channel too? i feel like work gets more notice there ?

ive had my fair share of posting stuff that only gets like one response lmao

and me saying uwu is the equivalent of like, saying "cute" or something similar lol

i just like uwu a lot

[jagged moss]

@still field dude same. but the good thing about art is that it's a skill that can be built up over time. hopefully you (and jade and others) will reach a point where you're both happy with your art and feel yourself validated by others at the same time 🥺

@unkempt tinsel i love how you drew the hair too! the shading n the mild tint on the glasses are also a nice touch

[still field]

@still field dude same. but the good thing about art is that it's a skill that can be built up over time. hopefully you (and jade and others) will reach a point where you're both happy with your art and feel yourself validated by others at the same time 🥺
Well, all that stuff used to happen until probably this year, so i think i've come a long way. there's still one occasion or two that it happens, though...

[hard lynx]

0: i think it's ok not to comment on art if you don't have anything to say but if you see something that's been posted p recently without any feedback, it might be nice to wait a while before starting another discussion just so their stuff has a chance to be seen. <- not a hard and fast rule obviously

[jagged moss]

Well, all that stuff used to happen until probably this year, so i think i've come a long way. there's still one occasion or two that it happens, though...

i think that's a sign of improvement, yeah! because you're making something better of your art. but kinda like rice said, try not to get discouraged when people don't have much to say about your art either. i just hope that you get to get some form of feedback because even emojis can be validating (at least for me)

[unkempt tinsel]

thanks brosepher, that's very sweet :)

i normally try to comment on things when i notice there's not comments, but unfortunately sometimes things just get missed. i think it's nice that we do our best regardless

[still field]

yeah, i guess i just got used to not getting recognition, but that's totally fine. usually my timing's just bad.

[jagged moss]

here's to striving for further improvement, and further enjoyment towards what we make~ ✊ 🥰

[devout stream]

[spiral gale]

yall too sweet rn

[marsh current]

ahh I feel so happy, passed the 500 word count on the 4th chapter for my penny fic

[still field]

Nice job! Are you going to post it? If so, where? I'd check it out :0

[marsh current]

its been posted before in creative

[still field]

Oh, then i'm omw lol

[marsh current]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/18477019/chapters/43779550

tis no need!

honestly I get suprised by people saying its good tbh

[still field]

Just finished reading the first chapter! It's great. I don't see anything wrong, really.

[marsh current]

like it's a weird concept having people like my writing tbh

[still field]

Something made me a little... disturbed? but i can't really put my finger on it

[marsh current]

hm?

[still field]

like it's a weird concept having people like my writing tbh
i don't see what's weird with that. It's honestly one of the best i've read till now

but yk, i need to read the rest of the chapters. lmao

[marsh current]

OH TY

I guess im showing my inner penny lol

[still field]

lol

[lament turtle]

Writing is extremely difficult and bar the usual syntactical and grammatical stuff, good writing is subjective

[still field]

^this

Jesus christ why is Penny so mistreated like that

I haven't gone through her heart events and stuff, but it's so damn sad

[marsh current]

[still field]

something that seems weird to me is ||how george just went full on mad mode to apologetic when adele glared at him||

wouldn't ||he have looked at penny in fear if anything?||

I don't really know, because my writing is definitely not better than this

[marsh current]

I like to think George realises what he's done and feels bad for it

he's lashing out at her for something well beyond her control

[still field]

I see

well it also kind of depends on ||how new Adele is to Pelican Town||

||as this 'gap' as i like to call it should impact her reputation...|| at least that's what i think about it

Thinking about ||how Penny hadn't even introduced herself by the start of the first chapter to Adele||, I think that would mean the farmer is at least on her second day of her new life

but well... i think i'm spiraling into nonsense again, so i'll stop here

[marsh current]

nah its okay

[echo mesa]

thanks brosepher, that's very sweet :)

i normally try to comment on things when i notice there's not comments, but unfortunately sometimes things just get missed. i think it's nice that we do our best regardless
lowkey been a lil disappointed lately bc it feels like, in regards to the #creative channel its more often just
Bam! art, bam! art, bam! art
which cool! art
but i wanna see more comments on each others art y'know? not conversations ofc, but at least more acknowledgement ig?
at the same time i kinda get it tho, theres not Always smething to say
glad to see there seems 2 be less bam! bam! bam! 2day tho uwu

[lament turtle]

i do not have that same impression personally

i like the pace of the channel currently, the art postings and the one or two comments + a plethora of reactions

[echo mesa]

ye, i like that
but there's times where there isnt Any comments
its just
Art
Art
Art

[lament turtle]

you also posted that after a giant conversation just happened

[ember narwhal]

i think they just mean in general

[lament turtle]

sometimes it depends on the time of day

[echo mesa]

i also mention in what i typed that it seems to be better today ;P

[ember narwhal]

yeah i mean, i think it depends on multiple factors... time of day, how many people are online and actively looking at the channel, whether or not they have anything to say, like, i always look at everything but a lot of times i just dont have anything to say about it lmao

[lament turtle]

but i dont have the impression that the channel is devoid of comments generally

[ember narwhal]

like, i usually try not to post my art right after someone else does, but when i posted the painted seb just now, it just happened to be at the same time that someone else posted something

after like an hour of no posts

so it seems to just be random an coincidence

[echo mesa]

ye, i agree with Mirax
and im not saying its devoid of comments generally
im saying lately ive noticed more of the No Comment periods of time, just
Art
Art
Art
i try not to post directly after pple either, and will try to comment on others stuff
but yeeeee, dont always got smething to say

[lament turtle]

i must not be online when that happens

tho i think this server has had a steady decline in activity overall

which is perhaps a factor

[ember narwhal]

to me this is the most active discord server im on lmao

[lament turtle]

lol

[ember narwhal]

which is why i tend to be around a lot..... cuz most other fandom servers im on are dead af

[still field]

nah its okay
oh oof, but then again if George realises what he's done i'd say it's fine like that, but then...
If ||Adele is that new, it means George does not know her well, which means i'm sure he would've reacted by throwing back an argument, like "who do you think you are, eavesdropping like that?", therefore what I see is that this scene does not make sense character-wise.|| And that's pretty much it. I apologise for being late and barging in this completely different convo like this-

[ember narwhal]

lmao u good

[lament turtle]

speaking of writing i am writing for the first time since january

[ember narwhal]

yaaas

[lament turtle]

tho it could not be further from being related to stardew valley

[still field]

I've given up on writing a long time ago. ´-`

[ember narwhal]

i write very occasionally

[marsh current]

I am here

[ember narwhal]

but whoever said "writing is hard" is correct lma

lmao

[still field]

lmao

[lament turtle]

that was me, i think it's nigh impossible to convey exactly what you want through words sometimes

[ember narwhal]

i come up with a lot of ideas for writings but then never do anything with them besides talk to friends about them like headcanons

[still field]

when i imagine it, the scene is way cooler in my head, it's just that i can't put it to words :'D

[marsh current]

I did'nt establish it yet but like, there is supposed to be a supposed time gap in between chapters

[still field]

Oooh

[ember narwhal]

its hard to convey small details in writings without making it too bulky/wordy

i run into that a lot

[lament turtle]

usually my writing gets carried away from what i was planning so i joke that I write in order to see what happens

[ember narwhal]

a lot of times i wanna do like the sound of a soft grunt or groan but literally cannot find a phonetic like "ahh oh" or actual word to describe it accurately

[lament turtle]

i think typing out a literal sound usually never looks right

[still field]

this reminds me of Opeo's (Katamari) noise.

It's almost impossible to explain.

[ember narwhal]

yeah cuz itll always be read differently by different people

[still field]

this reminds me of Opeo's (Katamari) noise.
https://somefantastic.net/katamari/cousins/cousin-opeo.wav here. loud noise warning, though

[marsh current]

I would say, describe what they're grunting. Haley let out a pained squeal as she bumped into a bouncy wall of clothes, eking out a small gasp as she noticed just how pretty the person whom she had bumped into was.

[lament turtle]

i feel that writing is like pixel art where the slightest move will change the whole thing

[ember narwhal]

yeeee

[tawny lynx]

Writing is odd in terms of progression because it's also language.

[marsh current]

yuh

[ember narwhal]

what u mean?

[marsh current]

its finding a way to speak what your mind is envisioning

[still field]

and that reminds me, it's time to look at my cringy-ass half baked fanfictions. [opeo noise]

[marsh current]

oh don't worry

I have cringey stuff too

[ember narwhal]

LOLOL

[marsh current]

gimme a sec

[ember narwhal]

i want to write for my farmer taajy and seb but like. idk writing hard

[marsh current]

https://archiveofourown.org/works/15641493/chapters/36325371

[ember narwhal]

i feel like i use the same damn words to describe everything

[marsh current]

my first ever fic

I hate it

[still field]

my oneshot book has 14k+ views.

[ember narwhal]

ddam

[still field]

it's on wattpad LMAOOO

[marsh current]

I HATE IT WITH A PASSION UNRIVALED BY THE VERY GODS THEMSELVES

[tawny lynx]

With drawing it's known that you first of all practice and also learn from tutorials. For some reason when it comes to writing however, people seem to not so readily realize that the importance of reading others' work is just as important as practicing your own.

[ember narwhal]

oh yeah

something i do not do at all lmao

[tawny lynx]

The balance of practice and looking at examples is a bit more skewed.

[still field]

it's basically like drawing, you improve way faster by looking at other people's art or pictures to propel your own art style forward

i can confirm because i know the difference between looking and not looking

[unkempt tinsel]

yeah reading a lot helps, i don't read as much as i should but it does help out a bit :) you end up combining your own skill with what you've subconsciously picked up from others and your work steadily improves. of course, just writing a lot helps too

[tawny lynx]

It just seems that I hear far more about people who barely read trying their hand at writing, than I do hear about people who barely look at art and art tutorials who try their hand at drawing.

[unkempt tinsel]

my fanfic is a great example of that because in the beginning it's kinda rough and as it goes on i lose a lot of the quirks/not great writing techniques that the earlier chapters had

[ember narwhal]

yeah that makes sense

i think also becasue reading other peoples works requires a LOT of time investment, whereas looking up references and looking at something is much quicker

[abstract shard]

MiraxGuru! I just saw your art in the art gallery, it's gorgeous! Forgive me if this is a silly question but, is it an OC or is it someone in specific o: ?

[ember narwhal]

oh yeah jade that happens to me, like, by the end of writing it i go back and im like NO THE BEGINNING SUCKS UGH

and thank you ; A ;

[unkempt tinsel]

yeah it's hard to not rewrite it

[ember narwhal]

oh its supposed to be sebastian lmao

it doesnt really look like him cuz i hc him as half japanese

er, it doesnt look like him in the game

[velvet sun]

huh i knew he looked asian

[abstract shard]

I thought it was a sexier

[ember narwhal]

lmao thanks ; A ;

[echo mesa]

i love rewriting old writing of mine
easier than writing new stuff

[tawny lynx]

In other words, with drawing you can experiment with your art style and even invent your own that people may enjoy. Since writing is based on language, it's is a bit more structured nad too much experimentation will throw people off and even prevent their ability to experience your creations entirely.

[ember narwhal]

i have a bad habit of leaving fics for liek months and coming back and finding them and being like THIS SUCKS immma rewrite the whole 3 paragraphs

[still field]

I want to re-write my works on wattpad, but my self esteem is bad, and I hate looking at my old art

writing is art jic someone doesnt get this

[ember narwhal]

yeah!! like you cant just make up your own words like you can just straight up draw whatever shape or line u want

[lament turtle]

it is

[echo mesa]

i dont rly understand why sme pple focus on art style and having one so much
i jus draw what i wanna draw how i wanna draw
and smetimes try new tbhings
if thweres an art style to it or not, idc
smetimes i think about my old stuff on wattpad and die inside a lil

[ember narwhal]

also if you are using vocabulary your reader doesnt understand, that presents a wall. but anyone can look at art and basically get it

art style is sometimes essential depending on what field you go into to basically individualizing your work and essentially copywriting it creatively

[lament turtle]

its a lot harder to get instantly validated from writing

[ember narwhal]

not everyone has a style though

i think it basicaly just comes down to how you enjooy working

[marsh current]

I feel like you should consider your writing base if you worry about vocab

[ember narwhal]

that too, cuz people gotta sit down and take the time to read it

[echo mesa]

i probably have sme kind of art style, its jus
not smething i focus on

[lament turtle]

you very much have a style

[still field]

i dont rly understand why sme pple focus on art style and having one so much
I agree that there are almost too many people out there that get angry over 'art style stealing'. But to be honest, when you have an art style of your own, it just makes the drawing feel like it's yours... in my case of course.

[unkempt tinsel]

on the flipside, the people who take the time to read stuff are often ecstatic and when they leave comments it is quite possibly the greatest feeling ever

[lament turtle]

it is

[ember narwhal]

yeah and imo that is good, especially when you are trying to learn and explore. some people get too attached to their art style (sometimes it isnt even theirs) and it can stunt your growth

[lament turtle]

i always comment on the fics i read cause i know that feeling

[tawny lynx]

All the while, writing is far more accessible. The basics of drawing require at least some semblance of practice and skill, but everyone knows words.

[lament turtle]

ill comment on every chapter idc

[still field]

still remember when i used to write the one-shots, all i got was "nice" or something along those lines. never too exciting, really

[ember narwhal]

and when i say "not their own" mostly i mean they are copying for example, anime, or sonic art style, or art style of like a well-known thing

[unkempt tinsel]

i'll fight them aiku

[echo mesa]

i keep meaning to comment on fics more often, like i dont always have thoughts easily put into words
so i'll jus 'fjdskhfjkdshd' in their comment to portray wordless excitement/glee and hope they get the message (not just that, also smething smol like, 'i lov this uwu')

[unkempt tinsel]

stardew fics people tend to leave longer comments and it's always nice, i try to do the same when i read them

at least on ao3

[still field]

that's why sometimes i begin doubting my art style, because to be honest I am fully aware that the anime style is trendy, but I just really like it, and have been on it for a big while

[unkempt tinsel]

that's ok! i think it means a lot regardless since sometimes ppl just think no one reads them

[echo mesa]

when i first started drawing more seriously, my art was prtty much a copy of the art of the girl i had a crush on lmao
now my art and her art look nothing alike, i just naturally started trying different things and we went in different directions

[tawny lynx]

I think people like to start with anime/manga because it has a much more solid "rulebook" to it's overall style, so tutorials and advice related to it will be far more useful and consistent than any number of independent style tutorials that may teach completely differnt techniques.

[abstract shard]

yea I'd seen jade recently recommend a fic somewhere in ao3, and then I took a deep dive I emerged from half a day later I made it a point to say to someone "I REALLY LOVED THIS BIT WITH THE THING, IT MADE ME LARF" (obviously not so silly-ly)

[ember narwhal]

yeah and i mean , obv everyone has their own process, i started out drawing anime in high school a lot but then it started to morph from there into my own

[unkempt tinsel]

well there's nothing wrong with having a trendy art style, one thing that always personally helped me in developing my style more too is to draw from life

and that sounds really weird but it does help

[still field]

i'll fight them aiku :emotions:
jfdhsajdakjd thank you, but i don't think my readers are old enough to comprehend

[lament turtle]

thats what wattpad will give you

[unkempt tinsel]

i had a big phase where i just drew from real faces a lot and when i drew on my own it didn't really take away from my referenceless style but added to it

[ember narwhal]

yeah drawing from life is the single best way to improve overall anatomy, which in turn improves any type of art related to the human figure, even heavily stylized

[echo mesa]

does my art seem at all anime-ish to y'all btw? a youtuber i watch keeps talking about how anime her art is, and i dont see it
and idk, i dont rly see my own art as being anime-ish either, so im kinda curious what others think?

[still field]

thats what wattpad will give you
exactly, it's all just young fangirls.

[unkempt tinsel]

your style doesn't come across as anime to me jar but i don't have a concrete word for what type of style it is

[lament turtle]

no i dont think your art is anime

[ember narwhal]

i think anime-ish gets used broadly just because it is usually associated with big eyes, small nose and pointy chin or whatever, but that describes a large portion of just cartoon/stylization in general

[still field]

No, Milk, it doesn't look like anime-ish to me.

[unkempt tinsel]

my art definitely got more anime over time as i stopped doing references as much oops..

[echo mesa]

ye, idk what my art classes as
and while theres nothing wrong with anime-styles, im glad mine doesnt look that way
many thank uwu

[ember narwhal]

its also a VERY popular type of entertainment in the art community so lots and lots of peopel get influenced by it which isnt a bad thing

[marsh current]

I mean honestlu

[still field]

i also like how when someone talks about 'big eyes' powerpuff girls is somehow left off the hook.

it's all just anime talk lol

[ember narwhal]

drawing anime isn't a bad thing in general, but art school will pretty much alwaays encourage you to get out of it and find your own style

[marsh current]

even the most smallest comments make my day

[echo mesa]

behold: my 2016 art tho

[unkempt tinsel]

shiny eye!

[ember narwhal]

i feel that lmao

the only thing that looks anime to me in that piece is the way you drew the eye but thats it

[echo mesa]

the youtuber i mentioned was saying how she wishes she didnt go to art school lol
bc she went and they tried to get her to stop doing anime stuff
then she didnt finish art school and still does anime-ish art

glad my arts changed from that tho xD

[ember narwhal]

but ya i have some extremely cringey anime art from like middle and high school

yea

[echo mesa]

r u rly an artist without past cringe 😔

[ember narwhal]

not really lMAO

[still field]

haha, pathetic, i have worse than that from 2017

[unkempt tinsel]

here is my legacy

[still field]

1 sec i need to find it

[ember narwhal]

oh dont even make me dig up my old files

[echo mesa]

with an omg hug even
u reached the ultimate uwu levels

[ember narwhal]

im gonna dig em up

please hold

[still field]

IT'S SO BAD I'M GOING TO DIE LMAO

[lament turtle]

you have to accept the cringe and let it mold you sometimes

[still field]

[opeo noise]

[unkempt tinsel]

aww i love it are they based off of a pokeyman

[still field]

why yes

[unkempt tinsel]

ur right solo

[still field]

howd u guess

[unkempt tinsel]

genesect? i forgot the name

[still field]

zygarde

[unkempt tinsel]

zygarde that's it

genesect is the purple dude

[still field]

OH NO-

[unkempt tinsel]

dangit

[still field]

[unkempt tinsel]

what pokemon am i thinking of

[lament turtle]

genesect is purple

[ember narwhal]

look at how emo

my tastes havent changed tbh

[marsh current]

I'll br back

must write 4th chapter

[still field]

this is genesect

[unkempt tinsel]

oh i was right that's who it was

dangit ur faster than me

[still field]

lmao

[ember narwhal]

thats not even as far back as the cringe goes but i have deleted everything before high school lmfao

[unkempt tinsel]

i think that art is still really nice mirax

[ember narwhal]

thanks ; - ;

[lament turtle]

me too

[unkempt tinsel]

i too hate legs

[ember narwhal]

well

[still field]

still better than my art rn. :'D

[ember narwhal]

16 year old me says thanks xD

[marsh current]

cya guys

[still field]

cya :0

[unkempt tinsel]

have a good time writing!

[ember narwhal]

ARR (im angry) is my favorite

[still field]

lmao i just noticed it

but i have even worse art, it's on an art book from 3rd grade or smth

[unkempt tinsel]

i love it

it can be nice to see how far you've come

[ember narwhal]

thats tru

[still field]

you're right

[ember narwhal]

there was a point in time, the first time i truly got into a fandom and i was making like 3-5 drawings/paintings A DAY

for like, a year

well not a year, like 6 months or some shit

i improved SOOOOOOO FAST

[still field]

i posted my development of 4 years before, not going to do that again, but looking at it is so satisfying every. time.

[ember narwhal]

it was insane

[still field]

damn-

[lament turtle]

i definitely extremely cringe at my first fic

[ember narwhal]

i still have the comparison thing lemme find it...

[lament turtle]

it's removed from public but still in google docs somewhere

[unkempt tinsel]

i'd like to start drawing more... there was a time where i did full works all the time

but now i really just color my doodles

[ember narwhal]

oh theres no image preview

[still field]

W O A H ???

[unkempt tinsel]

there's some stuff i did in high school i still like which to me is a sign maybe i should just draw more

oooh looks great, that background is really nice

[ember narwhal]

dooo ittt

thanks

i wish i still painted backgrounds lol

[still field]

I really need to work on backgrounds

but there's this one style-- that i've been so drawn to--

[ember narwhal]

i feel u tho jade, i used to do insanely realistic detailed full illustrations but i just Do Not have the energy anymore

[unkempt tinsel]

backgrounds can be really tough but they can feel rewarding finishing them

yeah definitely

[ember narwhal]

awwwh

[still field]

i focus too much on this stuff ;0;

[lament turtle]

i love that

[unkempt tinsel]

i remember my first full body work of art and i was so proud of it, let me find it

awww nothin wrong with chibi type stuff

amaterasu is so cute

[still field]

Okami is the best series i've ever seen

[unkempt tinsel]

opens ye olde dA

[still field]

oh yes... my DA

[unkempt tinsel]

gets sad at how much work is finished and i know this was all high school stuff

[still field]

where you can find stuff like t h i s

wtf is this

[unkempt tinsel]

the power of photoshop

[still field]

it was made on MICROSOFT PAINT LMAO

[unkempt tinsel]

even more respect

the cropping it takes to do that

[ember narwhal]

jade im just beaming out a constant stream of hardcore i feel u

[lament turtle]

ah yes that's a reshizekrom

[ember narwhal]

my da is full of my fullly rendered detailed paintings and i like, im just like, how

how did i even made these

[still field]

solo's a cultured man

[ember narwhal]

a lot of that art from like 4 years ago is better than the stuff im making now lmao

[still field]

but then i also want to get to doing backgrounds like these.

and these.

[ember narwhal]

i love that like loose watercolor style

[unkempt tinsel]

it's gorgeous!

[still field]

i know, right?

[unkempt tinsel]

man i still really like this art i did of viktor. i miss viktor. should draw him some more

[ember narwhal]

OH

hes hot

[unkempt tinsel]

he's from the game suikoden, he was my favorite character

[ember narwhal]

i can see w h y

[still field]

B U F F ?

[unkempt tinsel]

and also the best

[lament turtle]

sleeveless

[unkempt tinsel]

scrolls past all my homestuck art

[ember narwhal]

wait.......

[unkempt tinsel]

i'll be there soon

[ember narwhal]

i just realized that comparison image was from 2014

my art hasnt improved in 6 years ; - ;

; u ;

[unkempt tinsel]

i wouldn't say that

[ember narwhal]

well

at that tiem was the same as when i was doing all my wolverine stuff i think

[still field]

i still think my progress in 4 years was slow af

[velvet sun]

ee,. i wanna say soemthing but i dont wanna interrupt

[ember narwhal]

say ur thing

[still field]

pretty sure if i had drawn every day in an effective manner i'd be so much greater

[ember narwhal]

i feel u

[still field]

yes. speel the tee

[ember narwhal]

speel thee tee

[velvet sun]

Hmgmfhsndd s what do you think of these sprites

[ember narwhal]

i really like the one on the far right

[velvet sun]

im recreating some game items

[unkempt tinsel]

they're very pretty!

[ember narwhal]

i think the two on the left could do with more contrast

[still field]

i like the second one and first one from right to left

and yeah i agree with mirax

[ember narwhal]

i can barely see the green on the 2nd one, is what i mean

i like the blue one too

what are the items btw?

[velvet sun]

ughhh idk how i would do the contrast
oh i can pull up the items

[ember narwhal]

for the contrast tbh, i would jus tmake the green design a little darker and more saturated

[ember narwhal]

the value /lightness of the green is too close to the pink its on top of

ooh

tbh if you put the pink and purple inside the bow bag like in the original it would fix the green problem

but otherwise i really like the color choices uwu

[velvet sun]

hh the only thing im good at is pixel sprites

[still field]

i mean at least it's not half-baked like my skills lmao

[unkempt tinsel]

to cap off the previous convo, i found the art i was looking for, this was my first genuine attempt at doing character + background and according to dA i did this in 2009. i remember how proud i was

[ember narwhal]

omg

it does look pretty good tbh

[lament turtle]

i unironically do like that

[unkempt tinsel]

sorry i was taking a while to find it so i didn't mean to intrude on the current convo i agree more contrast would be good but i think they're looking really cute

[ember narwhal]

lol its ok

[unkempt tinsel]

her in all her backwards hands glory

[lament turtle]

tell me about this character

[tranquil comet]

i legit cant sprite humanoids

i can kinda draw them but spriting them is my worst nightmare

[ember narwhal]

also @velvet sun the thing about the pink and greens is really just me being nitpicky, i think it would be fine even if u didnt change anything

[unkempt tinsel]

she's not an actual character of mine just something from the ol' imagination

cycles i feel you, spriting humans can be pretty difficult

[lament turtle]

i see

[tranquil comet]

im trying to make a player for my game and its not going well ;-;

another thing is i dont have a proper design either

might not even make it a humanoid

[still field]

I:

have been playing violin for 10 years, progress was so slow it hurts so whenever someone tells me i must be amazing at it I just feel ashamed inside but also proud i guess, for playing violin for 10 years
have been drawing my whole life but only focused on headshots and only recently started drawing until the hip, so my full bodies look like shit, and so do my backgrounds
write but am too lazy to just practice and git gud
i'm just 100% half baked-

[unkempt tinsel]

well i think one thing is really that you're so hard on yourself

if you tell yourself your art sucks so many times you're going to believe it

it's good to not be completely blind to your work, like, recognize you have things you can improve, but also give yourself credit when you can

what good is pushing yourself if you don't like any result ever?

it's also not great to compare yourself to others so much either

you can say over and over again that people's old art is better than yours, that doesn't make anyone feel better

certainly doesn't make you feel better

[still field]

about the art thing, most of the time i am actually proud... when it comes to doing art in my comfort zone

which is until the hip with no background

i did make one full body with a background, but still felt incredibly weird and i wasn't exactly proud of myself on the background

what i'm saying is, whenever i step out of my comfort zone and do art, i end up just being disappointed, even knowing that practice makes perfect

but when i don't, i'm almost always proud of the result

[unkempt tinsel]

maybe you can set times to push yourself if that's something you wanna do, like, do something comfy one time, do something that pushes yourself the next time, do something comfy again, etc.

[still field]

and yeah, i've had the 'compare myself to others' habit for way too long, i'm trying to give it up

[unkempt tinsel]

i do understand how you feel, i get in that comfort zone a lot too and i've been in it for... all of 2020 at the very least

it can be rough to make yourself get out of that

[still field]

i really don't know when i got out of my comfort zone to start drawing arms...

perhaps i just really need to use more references, because this is just really the one piece i recall to be proud of

i'm still proud of it

[unkempt tinsel]

a good motivator for me at least is to notice everything i'm drawing looks the same and then try to do something different

aw that looks great!

[lament turtle]

@tranquil comet what kind of game are you making?

[still field]

yeah, that's probably it, because after that i remember sticking to doing drawings of people 'til the hips, so if i try to get a leg ref perhaps i'll start making full-bodies soon.

[lament turtle]

omg i see a pokeball

[tranquil comet]

its kinda like an endless bullet hell ig? basically you fight a bunch of enemies and use a dice to help or hurt you, enemies can also roll the dice

[lament turtle]

is that a trainer oc

[still field]

no

it's pokemon trainer ike fire emblem

[unkempt tinsel]

i thought he looked familiar

[still field]

LMAO

[lament turtle]

ooohh

yea i see it

[tranquil comet]

i thought it looked like ike lol

[lament turtle]

are you making this game alone

does it have a name or website

im just curious cause it looks like something i would enjoy

[tranquil comet]

im working on it with one other friend (the coder) and we only have movement done lol, i designed the whole thing but its also my first game soo

[lament turtle]

that's cool, hope it works out

[still field]

talk about the one with the full body and background... 'twas this

[unkempt tinsel]

awww!! i really like the lighting in that one

[lament turtle]

aw what's bad about that

yea it's cute as heck

[still field]

i don't know what set me off in the background lol

perhaps it's because it's not drawn like the character

but if there was a masterpiece, there was this
it took me 5 days to finish it

[tranquil comet]

i reallyl ike that wall idk why

ooh!

[still field]

the wall was probably the one thing i didn't even bother on LMAO

[unkempt tinsel]

the lil bird!!

[still field]

i love how you're probably the only one who didn't mistake the bird for a pokeball

[spiral gale]

i mistook it but thats because i didnt stare at it,,.,.

its a pretty lil beb

[still field]

b r u h -

[spiral gale]

what

i looked at the background it looks lit

[still field]

thank you ;u;

[lament turtle]

Wip

The yellowish skin is on purpose, its a lighting effect im trying

[still field]

i see. but woah, i love the choise of colors

choice*

shit i can't speek englosh

[mortal jackal]

u typing

[still field]

ye i cant taip englosh

[mortal jackal]

fun

[lament turtle]

Thank uuu

[still field]

and also how you did the leaves as well, it's so refreshing for some reason

[lament turtle]

It was inspired by milkywaes’ sunny day but my leaves are hella different

[unkempt tinsel]

it's looking great!

[lament turtle]

Thank u so much jade

Criticism is appreciated btw yall

[spiral gale]

lil peep pfp ❤️

not critical but, dude yeah
the skin looks so.soft and the leaves mmmm ❤️

[ember narwhal]

@lament turtle that looks lovely so far uwu

i can give u some critique later if u still want some

[lament turtle]

@ember narwhal i would love that! And thank you!

@spiral gale yes... i could go on for hours about him

[spiral gale]

yes..

[ember zealot]

IZZY HOLY SHIT I LOVR TBAT FHSHSBSJA

[lament turtle]

@ember zealot I SAID I WOULD DO IT SO I DID ITTT

Also yes.. he a god

[ember zealot]

I LOVE IT SO FRICKIN MUCH

[lament turtle]

Ahhhh thank chuuu

Im a bit upset at the face but i will survive

Tmr i have to do colored pencil outlines and fix the skin a bit

[ember zealot]

[ember narwhal]

so for critique, i really like the color contrast you have going on, the pinks of the skin go really well with the dark green. I think you could work on the background/foreground, I think the way you did the leaves is great for the background, but it seems a bit nebulous where the foreground of the leaves are because it blends into the background so seamlessly, so it makes the part in front of her face look a little out of place/unfinished

and i know you said its a wip so if that was something u are gonna work on then u can disregard that uwu

and last thing is i feel like the texture of the skin and leaves is really nice, but the hair looks a little flat in comparison

i would add some kind of gradients/more visible texture in there somewhere

oh also, in comparison to the head/neck size, i would say you are going to need to outline the shoulders. having them wide enough to take up the entire bottom part of the picture is gonna be incorrect porportionally, they should be narrower, if that makes sense

are u gonna be giving her clothes or have her nude? if nude you will probably need more definition in the chest area, because a bit of volume of the breasts should be visible that far down, but not far enough for nipples

@lament turtle i forgot to ping u lmao

but it is looking really nice!!! what medium? is it watercolor?

and honestly unless the photo doesnt show it in great detail, i think the face looks fantastic as is

[shell notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704479553036484638/737134449137025104/unknown.png

Harvestmoon girl protagg

[still field]

I really like how flowy the hair is! You're doing awesome so far :0

[shell notch]

Thnx XD

[still field]

just a very quick attempt at leaves before i go to sleep (I know it looks like hair, just testing something)... good night :)

[shell notch]

Lookin good

[tranquil comet]

ooh!

been meaning to get back into digital art but i cant figure out a style i like

[mighty bronze]

Don't look for a specific style, try new things, the more styles you can handle the better

Also nice tree

[leaden galleon]

thinking abt the meta

me: my farmer is so nice and caring!!!
me, thinking about how i act in the mines: ouughh..... now this.

[jagged moss]

👀👀👀

dude ya lines r 👌😩

[leaden galleon]

thank you!!! i've been busting my ass on this and im super proud so far

i dont think i'll be able to charge commissions reasonably bcs.. i spend many hours on a piece ive realized

[rubs my hands together] time to charge highway robbery

[jagged moss]

your rate is on your own accord. i'm not sure about it because rsd and my own mental barriers are keeping me from opening comms but as long as you're not short changing yourself at the very least, i think that's g

~~you deserve to be rad and get paid for it. 😤 ~~

[spiral gale]

how the fuck does lipstick work

nevermind

[still field]

How does one do sketches that look this good-

[mighty bronze]

Praaaacticeeee

Consistency, perseverance, motivation

Combine them all and you got it

[lament turtle]

@ember narwhal thank you for all the critique! yes its watercolor :)

[spiral gale]

fuuuuuuuuuck

[still field]

Praaaacticee
Ik, that was a half joke lul

[glacial fox]

well i could add in more of learning how to use line

i mean my sketches these days look like a pencil line art

draw slower help

[spiral gale]

HAH

DROPS PEN

[rustic plume]

huhuhu i love it the fuck

i really lke ur art style

fUCK

[spiral gale]

thank you 😳

[pulsar sky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyto7mMY2eA

[leaden galleon]

a mining man

[spiral gale]

i lob mining man

[lament turtle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyto7mMY2eA
@pulsar sky how beautiful

[tropic halo]

I should draw more
I'm rarely ever here now

[urban nexus]

I'd love to see your art if you do!

[leaden galleon]

goop time

[still field]

Is that the up-down flying bug-

[nimble fable]

Can some1 help me in a private call to install starduw vcalley expanded

[lament turtle]

most likely the insect head weapon

[still field]

Ooh

[lament turtle]

@nimble fable try #archived-modded-support, this channel is for art discussion

[still field]

Oh yeah. I forgot it existed lmao

[spiral gale]

:D :D :D

[wheat shoal]

Hello talented people!
Someone on Reddit is looking to commission a painting of a SDV character. I thought I would bring your attention to the post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/hyzwl9/looking_for_an_artist/

[oblique fable]

owo

are any of yall on artfight? i think i want to do some STV farmer attacks

[ember narwhal]

now that ive finished that painting i feel like ive permanently one-upped myself and nothing i do will ever be as good as that xD

i can also only draw hot buff seb so many times before it starts to feel stale........... hyperfocus is the worst™

... i only draw at this point for personal fulfillment/entertainment and my brain has been stuck on hot boys o'clock for like 6 years lmfao

[still field]

progress--
my brain decided this was a good idea
and uh
maw mark it as spoiler,,, for sdv,,,

[tawny lynx]

We should get a SDV Drawpile.

[still field]

you know i think that'd actually be very fun

[unkempt tinsel]

oh i LOVE the colors and the layering of the leaves

[still field]

thank you! ^^

[elfin dagger]

We should get a SDV Drawpile.
Yo that'll be fun indeed

[unkempt tinsel]

what exactly is drawpile?

[elfin dagger]

Its a drawing program that lets multiple artist to draw in that one canvas, kinda like Aggio : o

I haven't try it yet

[unkempt tinsel]

ooohhh

[tranquil comet]

i should try some sdv art

things are easier when you dont have to design i character

plus itll help me find a style i like

[tawny lynx]

Setting up a Drawpile server using Drawpile's public hosting. I wonder if I should password protect it or not.

[elfin dagger]

Trying to redraw a piece from Dec 2017, I dunno if I wanna paint this or just kept it as a doodle

[tawny lynx]

Wonder if I could get a Junimo to pin it when it's ready. I'll do it tomorrow.

[rugged jacinth]

https://toyhou.se/6132041.carla i might rename my new oc to chelsea

[leaden galleon]

Working on more expressions for my farmer!!! :)!!!

[lament turtle]

I like how you did his mouth

Is that a weird thing to say idk

it looks good

[still field]

Ok so my parents keep complaining about how my signatures gives off bad vibes, which is probably true but

i've already changed it like, what
3 times?

and i really want them to stop but i also don't want to change it again

[lament turtle]

How does your signature give off a bad vibe?

[still field]

it's basically "great poison" in japanese,,, i don't know why i wanted that to be my signature, but in the end i changed it to that

so yeah i can see why they're constantly bugging me about it

but still, i don't want to change it, because i don't want to get involved in some sort of trouble

[lament turtle]

That is interesting I’m not sure what to say but you can express yourself however you please

[leaden galleon]

I stopped listening to my parents opinions of my art like, eons ago tbh

Or well anything i express myself with

[still field]

That is interesting I’m not sure what to say but you can express yourself however you please
i mean,, it doesn't exactly express my feelings

it's... complicated

[leaden galleon]

Then change it to something you like and stick with it pal!

My siggy is just my art handle lol, im boring

[still field]

yeah but what if i get into trouble, idk lmao

[leaden galleon]

why would you??

[still field]

maybe i'm just exaggerating, bc people rarely look at the art i post online,,

why would you??
idk,,,,,

i just get a bad feeling when it comes to changing signatures

it's like, i shouldn't?

[lament turtle]

You can put a different signature on every piece you sell and there won’t be any legal repercussions

Cause it’s still “yours”

[still field]

i see

i mean i'm too young to sell art, or at least not good enough imo-

[lament turtle]

Unless of course it looks like someone’s else signature or something

Oh then you’re just overthinking it imo

[still field]

yeah lmao

sorry for all this, should've thought before i spoke lol

[lament turtle]

it’s perfectly fine

My personal take on signatures is that they should not distract from the art

[still field]

i agree, but imo it should be placed somewhere where it's hard to edit perfectly for plagiarizing and stuff

[leaden galleon]

im having literally so much fun making portraits of my farmer

like i stopped stressing for 2 seconds “ohhgggg the AART STYLLE” and sat myself back and went “does it look like from the game? Yes.” And thats literally all that matters

the goal: be able to send my portrait and others from the game to someone whos never played and have them guess i made, sam or something

[nimble imp]

@mighty bronze coloring? haHAA colors are for nerddssss

[mighty bronze]

well not color especially

just redraw

and dat looks great!!

[ember zealot]

nathex blessing our eyes with a sketch

[ember narwhal]

a lot of artists i see who do a lot of digital art turn their handle into like, an icon or something like that, i harsly ever see ppl sign their name like i do lmao. i like the icon esque thing, it makes it more noticable who the artist is, its very consistent and recognizable

[ember zealot]

I feel like I see a lot of box signatures

[mighty bronze]

Making your own signature, looking forward to make my own when I'll get deeper into art

I have some ideas already

[ember zealot]

mines just "Izzy" in lowecase cursive

[mighty bronze]

Yeah probably just the nickname is the best way to describe who drew the artwork

But a symbol won't hurt kek

[ember narwhal]

im weird in that i make sone professional art and some personal art so i have both a logo for my professional stuff and then i just sign my handle for my fan art and personal stuff. but sometimes those two overlap so it feels awkward lmao

i always feel weird about linking my fan art accounts to my professional cuz my fan art is just me thirsting after buff dudes xD

[leaden galleon]

USHEIHFKRJR

see ALL i draw is just me drooling over boys so like i dont Have that issue

Anyways. Ouchies

Also: sweater

[blazing timber]

did a mirror, thoughts?

[still field]

i really like how the palette of the frame and the glass is basically the opposite

one is colorful and one is not

[blazing timber]

oh yeah i really wanted the frame to look really out of place

with the piss colored room and the black glass

actually i forgot to mention i traced this picture to get the structure of the mirror

[still field]

ooh

[unkempt tinsel]

i usually just sign my work with my initials but sometimes i forget

[grand cave]

quickly did these last night

[unkempt tinsel]

oh those are such nice drawings, love the refs!

also, i thought this would be the best place to ask, but i'm considering making a huge purchase for a screen graphics tablet and it can be hard to find info that i want before buying

so for anyone who has used them, i'd love to hear your experience, and i have the following questions:

• how does the screen work exactly? does it project your computer screen, act as a second monitor, projects only your art program, etc.?

• do you need a beefy computer for it to be compatible? i always assumed they were relatively not very heavy but doing a lot of thinking, i see a people only use desktop PCs with them and i have a laptop (albeit a better one than many)

• if you've used both, how was the adjustment from screenless to screen? any things that stick out to you?

i'm not really gonna spend 2k or whatever on it but i'm not really looking for "cheap" so i'd want something that sticks with me for a decade if not longer, it's an investment for me

[rich delta]

I bought a 2 in 1 for 1,300 usd, it's a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 series, the art version with the pen holder.
When I tried out my friend's with the screen, she didn't have a beefy computer whatsoever. It was a dinky little laptop. It did not act as a second monitor, it was just a glorified graphics tablet. It projects only the art program.
The transition is very nice. But the issue with the screen tablets are the higher likelihood of scratches into the screen itself and dead pixels, afaik from friends who have had them.

If you do think about getting a graphics tablet with a screen, though, definitely get a screen protector for it. Don't even use it without one imo.

You might have to check out amazon for it because no brick-and-mortar store i went to had it. Same with the artist glove--not even Michaels or Best Buy had one; I had to also amazon it.

[unkempt tinsel]

that's something i'll definitely have to look into, thank you! i normally use my bed to draw stuff but for a screen tablet i might have to keep it on the table because i shouldn't risk it getting harmed

i certainly wouldn't mind getting a glorified graphics tablet. by artist glove is that something that keeps your hand from registering on the screen or something?

[rich delta]

yes! it also keeps the oils from your hand from smearing on the screen. It covers your ring and pinky finger, as well as down the wrist.

[unkempt tinsel]

i probably need that for traditional art too tbh...

[rich delta]

oh, i should just say for the sake of just-in-case: do not use a wrist brace as a replacement for an artist glove. Using a wrist brace while using your wrist can risk the wrist atrophying.

[grand cave]

(Not sure if I’m understanding correctly, but here) There’s tablets that you connect to your computer that project your screen, those usually work as everything, so you can open up your web browsers and everything on there, even open up games if you wanted technically
And then there’s stand alone tablets that are a lot more pricey and they act as the whole computer which you can take places and don’t need to be hooked up to your pc
Screen tablets have a lot more issues that can go on- along with scratches, drivers breaking ect which is what happened to my screened huion tablet which was $1000 on sale but most people never have issues.
So if you buy an art program on your computer, it registers with the pen in different ways and you are basically good to go.
Having a good computer would definitely help make the programs run smoother,, but crappy cheap computers would still work fine in most cases
Transition to screen from screenless was quite easy impo, a lot easier then the other way around
Artists gloves are basically required because without the oil from your hands slides on your screen and makes your pen stutter giving you ugly wiggly lines

[unkempt tinsel]

i'd rather have ones that just project the art program since otherwise i'd just be buying a new computer i didn't know there were all sorts of different ones though so it's good to know

[rich delta]

The huion that was like 500 usd that my friend got could only show the art program, or at least one program at a time, that you had to verify on the computer itself. You couldn't use it as a second computer, sadly, which is what I wanted. I think the cintiq companion could? but that's very expensive and I'd rather use that money on a 2 in 1, especially considering the issues one of my friends went through with the companion (but that was when it first released.)

[unkempt tinsel]

i'm looking at the cintiq right now and i'm baffled at how the stand costs so much

[grand cave]

I’ve surprisingly never actually heard of tablets that just project the art program out of all the tablets I’ve tried

[rich delta]

yeahhhh, cintiqs be pricey

It's literally for just the name, though.

[unkempt tinsel]

i'd be willing to pay for a cintiq if they're gonna last

wacom hasn't let me down with how long the tablets last for me so that'd be why i would buy it

but i always hear horror stories

[rich delta]

Idk if they changed since my friend got one in 2013 or 14, but when she got the cintiq companion, it was...a bad time

[unkempt tinsel]

i've only ever owned wacom tablets so admittedly thinking of a huion tablet makes me nervous

that sucks ):

[grand cave]

I’ve personally never had any issues with Wacom, huion is really where I have horror stories though..

[rich delta]

The ports for the cables stopped working entirely and there would be dead pixels on the screen
instead of fixing her cintiq, they'd just send her a new one
which would then break within a week or two
and then repeat the process

and this was with the companion, granted within the first three years it had come out though

[unkempt tinsel]

@ GD on the projection, well hey if they do their job regardless i'm good with it, i just don't want to end up paying a bunch more for something i might not use! it's cool to know many of them have lots of uses though

god that's awful

i'm so sorry for your friend

[rich delta]

It's okay, she ended up getting a microsoft thingy instead

[grand cave]

I usually used my tablets as second screens when I wasn’t drawing on them aha

[rich delta]

I forget since that was around when we stopped talking, but still
I was even looking at the Microsoft Surface series tbh

I would've gotten one if it wasn't for the fact that they were sold out entirely when I went to Best Buy, in the whole area

[grand cave]

The latest huion I had basically never actually connected with the pen, had a whole corner section with dead pixels, and 3 of the buttons were busted
Brand new
So they gave us a refund of half the price, I accepted because I obviously couldn’t sell it like that. But yeah, lost a bit of money

[unkempt tinsel]

amazon kinda sucks since i think, looking at this, you have to pay for the pen separately