Yeah, it's hard to summarise multiplayer compatibility in a single column. It'd also be a lot of work to maintain, since we'd need to manually test every new/updated mod for multiplayer issues to update the column.
#vanilla-tech-support
copper hollow
pearl hearth
yeah 
even something as coarse as "has the modder identified this as working in mp" would probably be unhelpful
hexed apex
it'd be so coarse rough and it would get everywhere
pearl hearth
Thanks drew
nova perch
okay
I definitely have an issue regarding tractor & horses
Had two horses in one stable
got off of it, it vanished.
any idea why?
full knoll
the games doesn't handle well 2 horses
last spruce
How much are the '+1' buffs to luck, in relation to the daily luck of -0.1 to +0.1?
last spruce
Nope.
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full knoll
is that an item in the game that gives that boost?
I need a bit more info
(also it's a #stardew-spoilers question. Support is for game breaks etc)
last spruce
Oh okay.
last spruce
Some food-items give +1 (or +2) to luck.
Daily luck, which you can get an estimate of from the TV (Fortune Teller), falls in a range between -0.1 and +0.1 (according to the wiki).
So I am wondering if the +1 is a flat +1, or if it is something smaller, since the numbers for daily luck are quite small?
full knoll
might be a flat 1% yeah
no idea, sorry :(
you should probably ask in #stardew-spoilers
last spruce
Kk.
full knoll
sorry I couldn't help you man
last spruce
Thanks for trying though.
last spruce
Ah, so you can basically negate the TV by using food.
young robin
that's why any luck buff food item is op
last spruce
Nice.
pseudo stag
Luck = Luck ^ Luck * ln ( Luck) + Fucks.
unkempt minnow
anyone who knows a lot of stuff want to try to help me fix this error?
trying to join on a friend and getting that error after i select my farmer
was working fine the other day
all steam files valid
hexed apex
something seems to be off with a ring... or possibly a savegame
did either of you install any mods in between last time and today, @unkempt minnow?
unkempt minnow
no i dont think anything has changed since the last time we played
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hexed apex
I don't know how savegames and multiplayer work... but do ask them if they installed or removed a mod lately
unkempt minnow
nope they haven't
unkempt minnow
she can load up fine though with no errors
it is only when i try to join i get that error
unkempt minnow
kk
hexed apex
can you load a savegame from save-backups?
unkempt minnow
not sure, we'll try it later though. she isn't here right now to host
unkempt minnow
kk
hexed apex
isn't the new JA broken-ish tho
hexed apex
still probably won't help but... yea worth a shot I guess
I focused on error not on mods
unkempt minnow
older save file worked
sucks we lost like two weeks though
i wonder what went wrong?
log file again in case anyone else wants to look
hidden fable
oh JA updated! Horray!
vernal chasm
How do I put a hat on my horse if I’m playing on Xbox?
young robin
i dont believe xbox or ps4 has 1.3 features
vernal chasm
Aw rip
worthy pollen
So can anyone explain why half of my crops in the greenhouse have straight up disappeared? They are just gone and they took a sprinkler with them
slate pawn
Also my greenhouse decided to take 13+ days to regrow my ancient fruit after they where harvested and skipped the budding part of the growth entirely.
torpid ledge
Hola, les comento mi problema, basicamente cuando intento de abrir el juego dice "En ejecución" y a los pocos segundos desaparece como si no lo hubiera abierto en ningún momento. Me encantaria que me den una solución rápida porque tengo muchas ganas de jugar. Cabe destacar que ya intenté instalando el XNA FX 4.0, DirectX 11, desactivé el antivirus, desinstalé el juego varias veces y hasta verifiqué los archivos cache y nada de eso funcionó. Muchas gracias desde ahora 😃
pseudo stag
English only my dude.
torpid ledge
Ya encontré la solución, igualmente muchas gracias.
pseudo stag
Lo sentimos, este servidor es sólo en inglés. En realidad está en las reglas. #445729663885639680
👍
restive willow
this is the only channel that does allow help in other languages
pseudo stag
Oh really?
restive willow
yeh its listed under rules
pseudo stag
I can't read well.
restive willow
if someone is trying to get help in other language, its okay
keyword being help
pat pat its okie
torpid ledge
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hexed apex
https://log.smapi.io/Ymwz69mr
Anyone mind taking a look?
I crash on going to sleep.
swift elbow
That’s also happened to me a few times
hexed apex
several XNB mods (please don't) and a removed reference to a cellar... did you remove a mod?
verify game files via steam and if that doesn't work, try loading an older save, if that doesn't work, try new save
full knoll
@worthy pollen do you play with mods ? @slate pawn same thing, do you play with mods?
@hexed apex please update your mods and post a new log if it happens again
hexed apex
I'll update. Thank you
copper hollow
@torpid ledge ¿Puedes intentar reinstalar .NET Framework 4.5.2? Para obtener más información, consulta https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Troubleshooting#Nothing_happens_when_you_launch_the_game. (Perdón por la traducción de Google).
full knoll
I totally forgot about them I'm sorry Pathos
boreal onyx
does hosting a farm use internet? I used to host LAN farms, and it didn't use any.
pseudo valve
if it's over the internet then of course it uses web traffic
full knoll
(i am confused by the question sorry if i don' answer D: )
boreal onyx
I'm asking if it's being hosted on my computer, not in a dedicated server somewhere.
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rocky pagoda
Farms are always hosted on the host's computer, whatever connection method you use.
boreal onyx
right, so would that use my data to host it?
or would it just use the other peoples internet to connect to mine
rocky pagoda
Both
boreal onyx
i've just got these stupid time restrictions on my internet, and I don't want the game cutting out in the middle of it.
rocky pagoda
I expect it would
boreal onyx
I'll try it and see. I hope not.
copper hollow
There are no servers. If you're hosting and your connection drops, the other players will be disconnected.
boreal onyx
we already established that
copper hollow
The 'try it and see' sounded like you weren't sure. 😉
boreal onyx
thanks tho
i was just seeing if the internet used by stardew valley would apply toward internet time limits.
fair oasis
https://log.smapi.io/i8AmpmBp I took a break from Stardew and when I came back the game crashed on startup. can someone take a look at it?
thanks in advance
full knoll
!smapi
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SMAPI (https://smapi.io/) is the mod loader for Stardew Valley. It loads mods into the game, provides APIs for mods to use, intercepts errors, and backs up your save files automatically.
full knoll
you don't have the latest SMAPI ^^
fair oasis
ah thank you
torpid ledge
@copper hollow si, al final era que no tenía los auriculares conectados a la PC, pero bueno. Muchas gracias igualmente 
copper hollow
¡De nada!
crude nova
I think there should be an overhaul for the panning system
full knoll
you're in support :0
crude nova
Rather than making it a harvest thing, since it's really rare and usually not worth keeping in one's inventory, I suggest making it a minigame
Well, there's no 'suggestions' area so I'm not aware of where to post it
crude nova
Ah k, may I have a link?
crude nova
Honestly a lot of people don't like the panning system as is, an overhaul should make it worthwhile as a minigame.
full knoll
native gobletBOT
r/StardewValley
full knoll
CA check both if I remember well
halcyon dragon
Hey guys, I'm testing out my first mod. I'm trying to test out the forest upgrade of the farmhouse when I get married. On my wedding day though, my game crashes. I'm not sure why...
I'm trying to test out the first farm house upgrade. No forest involved
young robin
an out of range exception
halcyon dragon
I'm not sure what that means...
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molten seal
@halcyon dragon That means that somewhere in your code you are trying to get data most likely from a list by using an index, however the index is more than what the list has in it
If we see some code we can most likely point it out
Also,
!log
tulip islandBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
molten seal
If you could upload the full log that would be great
halcyon dragon
my mod test only replaced the xnb files. i wanted to test that before attempted a content pack
molten seal
So you're replacing an asset?
halcyon dragon
i guess. i tried to make everything on the map japanese(which worked) and then i played with the farm house interniors
to what i know im replacing tilesheets and maps... this is my first mod
halcyon dragon
...I did expand maru's basement map... but the tilesheets i left alone, worked with them as 16x19+ in tide
i did put seb's bong back in...
molten seal
Hmm, I'm not too knowledged in map editing but I've had issues similar to this one. If you try not replacing that map edit do you still get the errors?
halcyon dragon
actually it only happens when i replace the farm house xnbs i edited
molten seal
Map xnbs or sprites?
young robin
16x19+????????
young robin
did u expand the map down and right?
oh wait
can u get Tiled?
i heard tide has problems with resizing maps sometimes i think
halcyon dragon
for example this is the beginning farm house. i had no problems really. the fridge works. cooking menu works. bed and sleep works. i wake up in front of the breakfast plate, not too mad.
young robin
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Using_Tiled additional steps required to make Tiled work for tbin maps
its for Windows, Mac and Linux i believe
halcyon dragon
oh no i see the windows 😛
worthy pollen
@full knoll no I don’t play with mods
plain brook
do dig spots ever just go away or do they stay there forever?
wise plinth
they do go away on their own eventually but it may take a while, you can just hit em w/ the pickaxe to make them go away
hexed apex
used to be a fireplace there? but yeah that's how it normally is now
abstract locust
obsidian heart
oh.....
pearl hearth
that's a known bug with mtn unfortunately
earnest wolf
How do i reset my skull caverns treasure floors?? My luck is level 2000 so now my skull caverns is just broke, its constant treasure floors with no chests in them
I only have access to xnb mods and save file editing because im on the nintendo seitch2
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earnest wolf
*switch
rocky pagoda
My luck is level 2000 perhaps do something about that
earnest wolf
Ye im going to but i wanna reset the treasure floors while im at it 😂😂
sinful laurel
For anyone who knew my issues with the non working multiplayer game, here's my latest suggestion! Going to give it a shot. I'm ready to lose it all 😭 to have a properly functioning game. Lol @copper hollow and the two others I can't remember the names of 😖
hexed apex
can some dev help me?
earnest wolf
What do you need help with? Nobody can answer your question if you dont ask it.
hexed apex
Actually I've already asked
I cant play Stardew Valley with my Gamepad
I've Trust GXT 510 Gamepad
earnest wolf
This one?
hexed apex
yes
earnest wolf
So, for a start thats a horrible controller, does it work in other steam games?
hexed apex
It works with NFS and PES games I've tested
rocky pagoda
x360ce may help... It emulates an xbox-style controller for other controllers...
hexed apex
I downloaded x360ce but it doesnt detect Stardew Valley
earnest wolf
If it works for other steam games then its already being recognized as xbox360 @rocky pagoda
rocky pagoda
Not if those other games already support other controllers...
And it doesn't need to detect stardew if you set up the mappings yourself
But that's not exactly simple...
rocky pagoda
Stardew isn't 64-bit, so you'd probably need the 32-bit x360ce... But that doesn't explain why it doesn't see your gamepad 
rocky pagoda
What for? One for moving... other for..?
earnest wolf
Cursor
rocky pagoda
Just use the in-front-of-you cursor?
earnest wolf
The menus?
earnest wolf
can you use wasd for the menus tho...
hexed apex
I'll move the cursor with mouse
and move player, open inv and others with gamepad
and i solved the gamepad detect problem http://prntscr.com/mv4ixx
just moved x360ce.exe to desktop
earnest wolf
Okay, does it work in stardew now?
hexed apex
now I'll set mappings and try it
earnest wolf
That being said i'd reccomend using an old ps3 controller with SCPToolkit, if you've got one.
rocky pagoda
IIRC it needs to be in the game folder.
hexed apex
@rocky pagoda it detected stardev valley
but i cant set gamepad buttons as keyboard buttons :/
ohh wait
this is an xbox360 controller emu
rocky pagoda
You shouldn't... yeah
hexed apex
this really so hard
rocky pagoda
Yeah, if you don't know the 360 controls for whatever, it can be hard to work out what to map where
hexed apex
yes, idk 360 controls :/
rocky pagoda
earnest wolf
If you want the shift toolbars you're gunna have to install a mod called rotate toolbar and bind those buttons to tab
For some reason we dont have that ability on PC but its standard across all consoles 
hexed apex
rocky pagoda
Just click record then move/press whatever, keep trying until it works as expected
earnest wolf
Okay, so I've found a farm map mod (xnb) that i want to use but it's for the default farm and i want to apply it to the wilderness farm, how hard would that be to change?
rocky pagoda
You have no sticks or anything on your pad, so you almost certainly won't be needing any sliders
hexed apex
wow thx 😃
nova perch
Idk what's causing this
I dont have any tileset maps other than a farm extender and no XNBs
the building on the left has moved from where it was
it was to the right last time
pearl hearth
What farm mod do you use?
nova perch
Farm Extender
but my friend is using it too and doesnt have it
we have the same mods
pearl hearth
hmm. can you go into steam and verify your game files?
nova perch
sure
pearl hearth
if it's the game's tilesheet that's broken somehow(which it sounds like), that'll fix it
otherwise it's a mod's tilesheet
pearl hearth
that's incredibly weird
hexed apex
@rocky pagoda I set mappings but doesnt woking in stardew valley
nova perch
pearl hearth
hmm i believe you but i don't know why that would be happening. let me see if i can get someone with more map experience to look at it
hexed apex
x360ce detects buttons
nova perch
Crazy huh
rocky pagoda
As I said, I think you need to have the exe in the game folder
hexed apex
but if i run .exe in the game folder, it doesnt detects my gamepad
also should i install vJoy driver
hexed apex
already tryed
nova perch
what controller are you using
copper hollow
@earnest wolf re "Okay, so I've found a farm map mod (xnb) that i want to use but it's for the default farm and i want to apply it to the wilderness farm, how hard would that be to change?"
I think you got an answer in #making-mods-general, but you just need to rename the file from Farm.xnb to Farm_Combat.xnb.
@hexed apex I haven't used x360ce, but if it doesn't work you could try InputMapper. (It works fine with my DS4 controller in Stardew Valley, at least.)
hexed apex
@copper hollow I'll try it
@nova perch Trust GXT510 Gamepad
@copper hollow I installed InputMapper but IM doesnt works for me :/
copper hollow
@hexed apex What issue are you having with IM?
hexed apex
@copper hollow i set mappings but doesnt detect gamepad keys
earnest wolf
Okay, so i added that map file and obvs these arent supposed to be here... how can i get rid of them? Obvs no smapi or cp
pearl hearth
Zoe did you have this save before adding the map?
earnest wolf
Yeah, is the only way to completely stary over?
pearl hearth
Bushes and such will persist even when you change it, you can remove them with debug commands in the desktop version but I don't know how to do it on switch
You could also manually edit your save maybe
pearl hearth
I have no idea
I don't have a switch :/
It would depend on how the switch saves are formatted compared to pc saves
pearl hearth
okay then probably yeah
earnest wolf
Oki doki thanks
copper hollow
Yep. When the save is on PC, you can install Entoarox Framework temporarily to run its bush_reset command.
earnest wolf
Okay thx
Can i target them individually?
Cause there are a few bushes that are supposed to be there.
copper hollow
The bush_reset will remove all bushes, and respawn them based on the new map. So any bushes that should be there should still be.
earnest wolf
Oki nice
hexed apex
Does anyone knows a "Custom Gamepad Keybinds" mod?
earnest wolf
What do you want to achieve
hexed apex
I changed Stardew Valley game directory as "C:\Stardew Valley" and Stardew Valley detected my gamepad without any xbox controller emulator
But moving character and moving cursor keybinds are same.
So I should change keybinds
and i can just move character to corners
earnest wolf
Hmm not sure
Is there a way to install a .tbin mod without smapi?
Like its a CP mod that has a .tbin file
hexed apex
idk .tbin mods
earnest wolf
Yeep yeep
hexed apex
@earnest wolf Are you know a custom gamepad keybinds mode as .tbin
earnest wolf
No, its a greenhouse with 3 different rooms
full knoll
tbin are maps
earnest wolf
Is it still possible as an xnb with it being 3 different rooms?
full knoll
(@ everyone who says I hate XNB: sue me now or never)
pearl hearth
:P
earnest wolf
Is it hard to change it to xnb?
copper hollow
!installxnb Zola#2185
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copper hollow
(Couldn't resist.)
pearl hearth
when both people are zola
earnest wolf
Lmao
copper hollow
@earnest wolf Nope. See https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Editing_XNB_files#Unpack_.26_pack_game_files for more info, but basically you just run it through a packing tool (with a .json file you get from unpacking another map).
earnest wolf
Ah oki cool
earnest wolf
Thanks @full knoll for doing it for me
full knoll
sure thing!
copper hollow
That'll work for very simple Content Patcher packs (including those with PNGs), though any using more advanced features (like replacing part of a file, conditions, etc) won't be convertible.
earnest wolf
Thanks though :)
full knoll
they got a config to enable the greenhouse for some reasons
it's cute
there is only the greenhouse inside assets asdfghjkl
full knoll
yeah LMAO
earnest wolf
The greenhouse is just in /maps right?
full knoll
yes!
earnest wolf
Thankiii
full knoll
sure thing Zoë, don't be scared to ping me
I don't hack my switch (yet)
but I know stuff 👌
hexed apex
Uhhhh...
https://log.smapi.io/sHnFC9TR
Also, some crops are now growing cooked items
*Edit: Some JSON Assets crops are now growing the wrong items now
full knoll
!log
tulip islandBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
full knoll
please!
hexed apex
I already gave it
*Edit 2: Several JSON Assets items are now confused
Also, I did just update JA
hexed apex
Aside from stardew fantasy, my way of disabling mods is to rename the manifest
full knoll
that's... not how you should do that
put a . at the begining of your folder
if on window, one at the begining and at the end
hexed apex
alright
redoing the log fixed the minecart, but now all the JSON Assets items are still confused
Also fixed the mod disabling thingy
https://log.smapi.io/Qf9gHhat
earnest wolf
is there a way to reset the chests in the skull caverns, kinda set my luck level to 2000 and it was just constant chests now there arent any anymore
also how can i move my greenhouse without making a map file? is there a mod or tool where i can edit an existing map file in a gui, kinda like mcedit
hexed apex
I would guess MTN would help you, but I do think a map file change is also needed
Best not to take my word on it only though
earnest wolf
whats MTN?
sinful laurel
It didn't work... of course ):
copper hollow
@sinful laurel That's not surprising. My guess is an issue with the Steam settings that are cloud sync'd, not the game saves.
hexed apex
Is there a way to fix the JA items' identities being shuffled about
https://log.smapi.io/Qf9gHhat
earnest wolf
@hexed apex im just using tIDE now, it doesnt look too hard
sinful laurel
full knoll
@earnest wolf the greenhouse is hardcoded
as well as the shipping bin, the house, the spouse area, the pet bowl...
and grandpa shrine
hexed apex
That's why something like MTN is necessary
earnest wolf
ye but like if i use it on pc, save and then transfer over to my switch
full knoll
nope
let me explain:
MTN is making you load MTN folder. they are similar to CP mods: they contain a tbin/xnb with the map, and a FarmType.json. It's here that you can move the buildings
nothing you can change without that FarmType.json, that you cannot read without MTN
silver prawn
does reinstalling smapi also get rid of the backups
hexed apex
So, I ended up installing extra JSON assets items when I updated
I didnt remember,
but removing them fixed it
full knoll
@silver prawn nope
hexed apex
If the tractor mod isn't interacting with something that it feels like it should interact with from another mod,
Who do I go to?
Still crashing on sleeping
opal coyote
so, verifying game files didnt work, messing with the firewall didnt work either, running as admin didn't either, any ideas?
rocky pagoda
Rebooted?
hexed apex
hi! recently i cant connect to my friends game anymore, but our other player can. I've tried reinstalling it but it still says "Connection failed". have you guy encountered this before it wasn't happening before the 1.3.36 update
north bane
Yea I'm also getting connection failed for my end
hexed apex
another thing, it doesn't happen when i host a game
hexed apex
okay, it seems that I cant join games, another friend made one and i cant join it as well
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bright furnace
Hey guys I need some help, when I went to update Stardew an error occured. It said that the was a missing executable, not really sure what's missing though.
copper hollow
Make sure your Steam launch options are empty to fix that (or reinstall SMAPI).
bright furnace
@copper hollow Haha, I forgot I had mods installed no wonder. Thanks!
copper hollow
Welcome!
north bane
Are me and froot the only people having multiplayer issues after the latest update?
copper hollow
I don't know of anything specific to the 1.3.36 update, but there always seems to be a few players with connection issues. Often using a service like Hamachi will work, since it bypasses various networking issues.
opal condor
Oh hey that happened to me earlier today! With the update thing
It took for ever for it to start working again
I had to restart the steam client over amd over amd over then my computr then the client AGAIN
Then 2 hours later, it worked!
nimble mauve
can someone help me with a smapi error?
This comes up while trying to load a save file. The game starts up fine, SMAPI log looks fine, then that pulls up.
Then the game file never actually starts. It's on "loading" infinitely.
copper hollow
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page) and post a link here?
nimble mauve
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toxic radish
That error is being caused by one of your mods needing to be updated for 1.3.36
One that affects the mines
Also you have a ton of mod updates and should update them
I'm not sure which one it is exactly
copper hollow
@nimble mauve Try updating Content Patcher to the latest version. It should detect which mod is causing that and disable it.
nimble mauve
thank you! 😃
hexed apex
@opal condor is it working consistently now? ive been doing that and my connection keeps getting lost 😦
placid dirge
https://log.smapi.io/9ACxjLG3 can someone help me with my game honestly
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@placid dirge SMAPI (https://smapi.io/) is the mod loader for Stardew Valley. It loads mods into the game, provides APIs for mods to use, intercepts errors, and backs up your save files automatically.
full knoll
It's OK lmao!! 
placid dirge
oh god i uninstalled so many mods already
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placid dirge
thanks so much
full knoll
Nah not at all
placid dirge
i knew that was a possibility but i wasn't sure
placid dirge
thanks ❤
magic talon
Hi,
I bought the Game with a friend 3 days ago and since that date we couldn't afford to join the hosted game of the other.
One of us create a farm with houses so other people can join and after that, he send to the other a steam invitation or the invide code provided by stardew Valley option menu.
After that, the other player try to enter in the hosted game and after a loading screen that last for 5 to 20 sec, it says connexion failed.
I don't know why but one time it happened that my friend could join the game, so he reached the create character/choose character step, the one before connecting to the game. Then he arrived in my hosted farm, i could hear him choping some trees, and after 10 seconds he got a connection error and got knocked off the hosted game.
Since then we searched in the Internet if there were other people with the same issues, and it seemed like some of them had the same problem. SO we tried the solutions they gave to us, like desactivating our antivirus and our firewall. We also tried with other PC's of our own and i tried from the connection of my other house, but it didn't changed anything.
Hopefully someone have solution, or is it the only solution to play with hamachi?
Too much text sry about that :/
full knoll
No worries man
I think Pathos and I last time never fixed the issue of the person with that same issue... They had to use hamachi...
I'm so sorry @magic talon :(
magic talon
Okey it'swhat i though, i read your previous conversation about it, will use hamachi so !
ty for your fast response
full knoll
sure thing
I am really sorry you have to use it :(
But we think it's a steam problem
and sadly none of us are from Steam
magic talon
ahhhh
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magic talon
sadly we both bought it on steam
magic talon
So you are not having issues with the gog version?
We don't really want to use hamachi, and we have less than 2 hours in stardew valley so we can actually get refunded
full knoll
well I mean
I don't have issue with MY steam version, but I only used it once and it was on LAN
(since I only play with my s/o)
tho I don't think I ever saw a GOG user here complaining about MP
magic talon
Okey, i'll see i already bought it, installing it atm
full knoll
hope your issue will get fixed man
magic talon
thx
earnest wolf
whats the format for adding an item to my inventory in the save file?
magic talon
Hey, we got the same problem with the gog version, sad :/ can someone invite me to his game to test if the problem is from one of us, or our multiplayer
magic talon
thx man
before me traying to join u, can we try you joining me ?
so i can figure both cases
magic talon
E8TFLYDUISG here is the code
full knoll
I also got SMAPI running with no mods, to have some kind of log if the game crashes
magic talon
okey, only one house guck
full knoll
so the issue might be on your friend's side
full knoll
well I mean
it's obvious that it's your friend's game that isn't working if I can come without any issue
full knoll
sure
magic talon
BIg thanks to you man !
magic talon
you mean the discord?
full knoll
here on the server
because if I cannot find a solution, someone can read it later and find a solution ^^
cough Pathos COUGH
magic talon
^^
before that, could we try one more time with his server, he was offline on gog
here is the code
E8TFYOM4WTW
even if i think it wasn't the issue
magic talon
On my side it's failing
magic talon
ye we had this problem
full knoll
it doesn't even see your friend
yeah please invite him here
so we can see what's up with his game
magic talon
okey
magic talon
here he is
copper hollow
flees.
full knoll
lmao!
magic talon
yo !
magic talon
lol
magic talon
he installed smapi
magic talon
gog so
full knoll
oh well true
magic talon
we are on gog now
full knoll
OK!
magic talon
he do not know what do to
it said that it was installed, but how do he have to use/configure it
young robin
O
magic talon
only installing it? ok nice
full knoll
if he launches the game, does a black window appear first?
magic talon
he is launching it
full knoll
👌
magic talon
no window appearing
full knoll
(pathos help)
copper hollow
(With GOG, you need to launch StardewModdingAPI.exe directly instead. You can add a shortcut to your desktop though.)
copper hollow
(It says that in the installer.)
full knoll
oh well!
copper hollow
(It also says that on the wiki. 😛)
full knoll
wot
young robin
Otherwise just run StardewModdingAPI.exe in your game folder to play with mods.
copper hollow
5. If you use Steam, continue to the next section. Otherwise just run StardewModdingAPI.exe in your game folder to play with mods.
so he starts it before or after launching the game
young robin
run StardewModdingApi.exe and a console window will appear
full knoll
copper hollow
SMAPI will start the game automatically for you.
full knoll
I will see myself out for tonight I am very tired
you two are more than enough for Fallen
copper hollow
Oh no my flee attempt failed.
young robin
so now the connection problem...................
magic talon
ahah pathos
copper hollow
It sounds like a network issue, e.g. a firewall or security app blocking the port. That can be hard to troubleshoot, so using Hamachi is usually much easier since you don't need to figure out what's blocking the connection.
magic talon
so what was smapi for?
young robin
smapi can help with some game error troubleshooting
copper hollow
Can you try connecting again, upload both of your SMAPI logs to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page), and post the links here?
full knoll
(this is what I was trying to do)
magic talon
so not both because actually ZOla could join my game
full knoll
(see if the logs matched MP ip code, and if the host had everything working correctly)
young robin
we need both logs
magic talon
SO i'm installing smapy
launching the exe
okey so know i have smapy working, i try to connect to his server?
magic talon
him
young robin
that is because trace messages are hidden
now upload both of your SMAPI logs to https://log.smapi.io/ (see instructions on that page), and post the links here?
magic talon
k
covert flower
copper hollow
Looks like a timeout:
20:10:50 TRACE game Lobby entered: 124139390132862868
20:11:08 TRACE game Disconnecting from server 124139390132862868
Can you try with Hamachi (even if it's only temporary)? Knowing whether that works will provide more clues to what the issue is.
magic talon
Okey we will do that, but in like 10 mins, he went for cigarets and here we go
Also thank you for your help, you are awesome
The weird thing is that once i successfully joined my game for like 10 sec, then got disconected
he*
hexed apex
What can cause several mods ( and the base game ) to throw a System.NullReferenceException on heading to bed?
(Prismatic tools, Deluxe Autograbber, Deep Woods, UI Infosuite, Automate)
My guess would have to be is that a mod is changing some things, and the game cannot recognize the changes made
Gonna try to isolate the mod
copper hollow
@hexed apex Looks like one of the in-game locations is null.
(Which should never happen.)
hexed apex
I think thats the main thing giving me problems this whole time, and now, I am unable to progress in my main save
copper hollow
If you exit & relaunch the game, does the error happen when you load the save? Or does it only happen after saving?
hexed apex
Ive been able to sort of bypass it by closing stardew, then reopening, because its saved, but I am able to do it no longer
It only happens after the save
When I hear the money sound, thats my queue to close stardew
My main save is unable to do that, however
Testing right now to see if its one of the map/Icon changing mods I have
copper hollow
Try removing these mods and see if it still happens: Deep Woods, Farm Expansion, Farm Type Manager, PyTK, and Summit Reborn.
hexed apex
oh right, about removing mods... windows don't like .FolderName renames... removes the dot... so if you rename it to .FolderName. it'll only remove the dot at the end but not at the front
copper hollow
That's fine. Putting a dot at the end is just a way to allow the dot at the front. Having only one dot at the start is what you want.
hexed apex
yeah, but I meant like... could it be something easier to do if you don't want to have to google "how do I put . in front of a folder name"
don't even know if this feature is mentioned anywhere though
haven't cared enough to look for it
copper hollow
hexed apex
ah
Put the recommend mods in purgatory
so my problem is only using what people say on discord as my source of knowledge
full knoll
if you knew how many windows I have open when I try to help people on support Fanq, lmao
- looking into the history of the channel to see how people fixed a problem etc
hexed apex
@hexed apex
It never hurts to cross reference source material
and to have several sources
I... may have written several papers in my time at uni
so that's not an unknown concept to me
magic talon
Yo, it works with hamachi
hexed apex
https://log.smapi.io/TWMy8Eyv
Same error
copper hollow
@magic talon Do either of you have any firewalls or security suite installed?
@hexed apex Try without MTN too?
magic talon
no we both only have windows defender, and i have avast, but i deactivated it, and the problem comes from my friend
we already try without the firewalls, same issue happened
copper hollow
@hexed apex Try with no mods installed?
hexed apex
smapi enabled?
hexed apex
Worked
magic talon
w/e for today we are pretty fine with hamachi, we'll see if later on someone have the same problem and and a solution got found i guess
copper hollow
Good luck! Feel free to ask here if you want to keep looking into a non-Hamachi solution.
magic talon
Ty everyone, have a nice day/night
hexed apex
Ill go ahead and try by adding JA and content packs to see how that goes
Aside from a few mods not loading from lack of dependancies, it worked
Gonna add CFR
and content packs
(And PyTK)
Adding Libraries and debug stuff
Adding Informational utilities
Adding minor tweaks
adding larger tweaks
Adding content patcher and smaller CP tweaks/addons
Adding Larger Content Patcher Addons
Adding Deepwoods, Summit reborn and Large addons
Adding automate, Better ranching, Deluxe autograbber, Skull Cavern Elevator, Tool Geodes
SkillPrestige mod is no longer "Not Compatible"
Adding Longevity
Adding Ace: Shed, Cellar, Greenhouse
Adding Ace's Caves and Expanded farm, MTN, Even more deepwoods
Adding Farm Expansion and Farm Type Manager
Last one:
Adding Tainted Cellar
And it was tainted Cellar
Shame. I was looking forward to trying it
Thanks pathos
azure perch
Hey does anyone know how I can go about fixing this or what could be causing it? (Have full log if needed)
[13:06:33 ERROR Json Assets] This mod failed in the Multiplayer.PeerContextReceived event. Technical details:
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
I believe it has to do with bonster's fruit and veg in multiplayer
copper hollow
@azure perch It's a bug in Json Assets. Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page), then post the log in #making-mods-general?
@hexed apex That's weird. Can you install only Tainted Cellar and Automate, and see if an error happens?
hexed apex
alright
on it
[SMAPI] Loaded 2 mods:
[SMAPI] Automate 1.11.1 by Pathoschild | Lets you automate crafting machines, fruit trees, and more by connecting them to chests.
[SMAPI] Tainted Cellar 1.1.1-unofficial.1-pathoschild by Jinxiewinxie for TaintedWheat | Adds an underground cellar, complete with amenities only found in bomb shelters owned by paranoid survivalists or Cold War homeowners!
Nothing odd happened
I slept with great success
copper hollow
So it's not Tainted Cellar itself, it's an interaction between mods. What if you put all the mods back except those marked 'patches game code' in the SMAPI log?
hexed apex
will do
sorry pathos but This is giving me a headache and ill need to take another break
for another few days
royal crypt
Hello, quick question, does anybody know when stardew valley was the last time on sale on nintendo switch?
hexed apex
copper hollow
@hexed apex No worries. Feel free to ping me whenever you want to resume.
hexed apex
alright. Thank you
faint olive
Is Multiplayer or any new content coming to Xbox one or PlayStation 4?
swift elbow
If it gets updated to 1.3 when ever that happens
faint olive
just wanted to know
swift elbow
That’s fine
earnest wolf
Okay, so my save already had a bunch of unclosed tags that i fixed with sublime text, but now i have this error, and im struggling to figure out what it means?
young robin
!log
tulip islandBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
earnest wolf
my save worked on the switch version without me even fixing the tags, i wanted to spawn some items so i copied it over to PC and then it just wont work. here's the log you asked for https://log.smapi.io/i2eErj2j
copper hollow
@faint olive Xbox and PS4 are getting the 1.3 update next, including both multiplayer and new content. There's no release date, but it's expected within the next couple of months.
@earnest wolf Do you have a backup of the original save from the Switch?
earnest wolf
you mean before i closed all the tags?
copper hollow
Yep.
earnest wolf
yeah, that didnt work either
copper hollow
That's fine. Can you post a zip of the original version here? I'm curious what the differences are.
earnest wolf
you want both? yeah?
copper hollow
Just the original. (The modified one isn't working anyway.)
earnest wolf
i can get one that's completely unedited if you like? i used SDVSE on my save but my GFs save is basically untouched, (i just manually changed the money value)
copper hollow
Oh, I wouldn't recommend using save editors since they often break save files. (Your save might be broken due to the save editor, rather than PC/Switch differences since all platforms use the same save format so far as I know.)
earnest wolf
yeah, i had no idea how to add an item without it.
copper hollow
The easiest way is to load the unmodified save on desktop, and use the CJB Item Spawner mod to spawn items. Then just save in-game, and transfer it back to the Switch.
earnest wolf
One difference on switch, is for some reason it can't load the ë so the folder and files have an X whilst the name inside the save as an ë
copper hollow
Interesting. Looks like the Switch uses a different XML serialiser?
earnest wolf
lmk if you wanna look at anything from the switch version, obviously i cant send you the game files but i can dump the game and answer some questions about it.
But do you have any idea how i can fix that save? or a guide on how to add an item manually?
copper hollow
Looks like the item structure is approximately the same. You could try loading (or creating) a normal PC save, spawning some items & saving, then copying the items from the PC save into your original Switch save.
earnest wolf
thx
long fjord
what should you do if time freezes in your game at 2:00 AM?
earnest wolf
okay, yeah i copied over an item entry, replacing a pine cone, just so i knew it was in the right place and it just crashes my switch
vital flume
Hi guys, ive been trying to do coop with my gf and i keep on disconnecting from her game
We tried connecting through invite, invite code, and Lan but its still the same thing
I can only play for like 3 minutes or so without getting kicked 😦
long fjord
i just asked my friend to exit his game
vital flume
I still dc sometimes, we even tried switching computers and laptops
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earnest wolf
Yikes, i think i managed it @copper hollow
the item spawn glitch i think will work if i edit the save so the switch version doesnt have a chance to get rid of the brackets, and then once i've spawned one using that glitch i can edit the save again to change the count
now i gotta make gus say my name
it doesnt worrrkr
radiant seal
Heya! The creator of DeepWoods encouraged me to reach out on the SV discord, so I thought I would give it a shot...When I try to boot up the game with the DeepWoods mod, it doesn't get any further than the black SMAPI screen. Nothing crashes, the game just doesn't load. It does this when I try to use Karmylla's Immersive Map Edits too. Doesn't seem like this is happening to anyone else...any suggestions?
Sorry if this has already been answered!
This also happens when I try to use the HB mod, so I'm pretty sure it isn't a MTN issue.
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young robin
@radiant seal first of all, you dont have karmylla's immersive map edits installed and second, the log shows no errors
did u reproduce the error and then uploaded the log?
young robin
try to remove mtn and pytk (under Patched Code mods)
radiant seal
DeepWoods requires both
young robin
it does???????
copper hollow
@radiant seal Try reinstalling Mono to fix that: https://www.mono-project.com/download (either channel is fine).
indigo wyvern
Hello, i was wondering if someone could help me out. I have the newest version of SDV, SMAPI, and have updated nearly everything on my computer i can think of but stardew crashes once SMAPI is opened. Any ideas what to try next?
indigo wyvern
i managed to grab a screenshot before it crashed if that helps
copper hollow
@indigo wyvern Looks like you're running SMAPI from your desktop; did you mean to put a shortcut there, instead of copying the actual executable?
copper hollow
Welcome!
trim sphinx
Okay... so here's the issue I was having before.
Decided to try modding with the friend I've been playing vanilla multiplayer with, the vanilla had 0 problems luckily but once we started using mods...
Things work fine on single player, and it's fine on the host's client, but both he and I get stuck in loading screens when trying to enter the town as an add-on player. Some of the in-game days work fine, but most of the time they don't.
He's using an exact replica of the mod folder I set up so I know neither of us is missing anything.
Here's the error in SMAPI, with the Longevity mod installed, but uninstalled it just does the middle part ([game] An error occured in the base update loop: System.MissingMethodException: No parameterless constructor defined for this object.).
https://pastebin.com/raw/rTdBkaMq
Has anyone had a similar issue before?
trim sphinx
I agree haha
I checked that all the mods are compatible though, some of them required patches but aside from that
I wish there were a way to enable/disable mods without having to mess with the folders
would be much easier to check them one by one that way...
pseudo stag
I think the mod may have not been designed for Multiplayer. As when I look through the Nexus page, the creator specifically states: "This mod is not built or tested for multiplayer."
This was as of Sept 27th, 2018
trim sphinx
Yes, but I still have the problem when it's not there
so I don't think it's that mod itself
viral tendon
Is it an event day?
trim sphinx
We tried many different days
viral tendon
And if it is, do you have freeDusty installed?
trim sphinx
I remember Spring 6 being one of them specifically
...oh, we do have freeDusty installed...
viral tendon
try removing that mod
pseudo stag
Looks like freeDusty freed a bit too much
viral tendon
It seems to have some problems.
trim sphinx
alright, I will give it a shot. Thank you
viral tendon
You're welcome, I hope that's all your problem is 😃
trim sphinx
I hope so too, he's basically lost all his patience with it haha
but I want to keep playing D:< Even though I shouldn't...
and single player is fine but... it's more fun to play together, there's less pressure to do everything at once haha
viral tendon
lol
trim sphinx
Oh, I wonder if the "event" is the one where Lewis shows you the community center
Actually, I don't know if that would be right since it happened on his end when I started a new one, which would have been Spring 1
sinful laurel
Welp... I give up. Stardew multiplayer isn't meant for me I guess 
They won't do anything about my specific steam settings. They gave me generic fixes found online and didn't listen to anything I had to say. Great steam support.
I had more actual help from you guys than the effort they gave.
full knoll
🤦
patent hamlet
That sucks
silver prawn
I downloaded the fast animations mod with optional "only speed up geodes" file, but it also speeds up the file selection menu animations and bus animation
the bus animation glitches when it arrives at the desert
it phases backwards 3 times
how do I actually disable everything except geodes
earnest wolf
What even is GOG
Like... what's wrong with steam tho, like its fine for me, and i appreciate all the extra features
@silver prawn did you also download the main file
silver prawn
yes but I only put the "additional file" in the mods folder but that just contained the mod's content with config file
earnest wolf
You only need the optional file in most cases
Im not sure about that mod but i would try that
hexed nacelle
What can these things do
full knoll
you are here in #vanilla-tech-support where we help fix your game!
@earnest wolf multiplayer got a lot of issues with steam. People are forced to use Hamachi to fake being on a LAN game, which is not good, and Steam does not seem to want to fix the issue at all.
Nowadays, everything steam does, discord does it for you (overlay)
so GOG so far seems like a better option
earnest wolf
Me and my friend played MP just fine?
And hamachi isnt that bad... i use it for minecraft all the time
full knoll
we have different opinion
and some people because of their steam settings (that they cannot change, something internal) just cannot play
it happens a LOT
and steam refuses to look into it
earnest wolf
Oof thats so dumb
hexed axle
i cant load stardew from steam?
it gives me an error message, also i might have done something when i was trying to delete mods...
earnest wolf
What error message...
full knoll
hi @hexed axle ! what is the error?
earnest wolf
Yikes Zola, you have the patience of a saint.
full knoll
i mean
they just arrived
they're probably upset their game doesn't work
i mean
it's normal to be kind
(and if you think I AM patient, you didn't meet Pathos yet)
hexed axle
missing executable
earnest wolf
Did you try to move your game install folder? Even so, first thing would to be right click the game in your steam library then hit properties and then "Validate game data"
if you tried to move the install folder doing verify would reinstall in the original location unless you change it properly first
full knoll
(you also have to take into account we have children or people who don't have english as their first language!)
earnest wolf
Yikes true.
hexed axle
@earnest wolf i did the validate game data and it said everything was good
still won't load
tulip islandBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
full knoll
(also, can you screenshot the Stardew Valley folder?)
hexed axle
hexed axle
it's been updating though
full knoll
SMAPI*
hexed axle
oh
full knoll
!smapi
tulip islandBOT
SMAPI (https://smapi.io/) is the mod loader for Stardew Valley. It loads mods into the game, provides APIs for mods to use, intercepts errors, and backs up your save files automatically.
full knoll
install it (it replaces the old one don't worry)
(no need to unistall before)
and try again!
hexed axle
okay so i downloaded it before
my friend had suggested updating smpao
*smapi
but i don't know where to put the folder from it
or do i open it
copper hollow
('Missing executable' usually happens when the StardewModdingAPI.exe file is missing in the game folder, or the launch options are incorrect.)
full knoll
(taking notes!)
hexed axle
ooh
hexed axle
(also y'alls icons are TOO cute omg)
full knoll
u//w//u
hexed axle
ok didd that
full knoll
then unzip it on your desktop
hexed axle
extract it?
full knoll
yep!
hexed axle
okay
full knoll
now inside you have a BAT file called install-window or something like this
double click on that
hexed axle
okay it pops up with a box
full knoll
awesome!
hexed axle
i want to install right
full knoll
yep!
nova perch
this is happening every day
im gegtting mail from everyone with recipes that dont exist
nova perch
no because it's not saying "New Recipe - Blueberry Tart" at the bottom
It's just the one I happened to take a screenshot of said "Blueberry tart"
nova perch
no
full knoll
hmm
tulip islandBOT
Can you upload your SMAPI log to https://log.smapi.io (see instructions on that page) and share the link here?
nova perch
i... guess?
i dont think i have any XNB ones - the oly ones i have are throwing SMAPI
full knoll
i have no idea
you alsp have a lot of error thrown by your scarscrow mod
and you should update JA !
full knoll
still you should update JA
and you should repost these bugs on the page for the scarecrow mod 🤔
nova perch
I don't know what the bugs are. I've not encountered any.
full knoll
no like
the error
the error by itself is a bug
if it doesn't do anything else but throwing an error: it's not normal
nova perch
I'm not even using Json so I dont need to update it.
It was when I was going to make a mod but my motivation was completely killed.
full knoll
you should unistall it then
nova perch
That's the plan, yes.
full knoll
since it does affect your save anyway
hmm
but yeah I have no idea why you have these letters... 
nova perch
Oh well, it's not ruining the game. Just strange.
silver prawn
how do I disable speeding up the file select and bus animations in the fast animations mod
full knoll
Ask in #making-mods-general!
copper hollow
Nope. Are you using Steam, and do you have mods installed?
You can use input mapping software to convert your generic controller to an XBox 360 controller (which most games support). See https://inputmapper.com/ (Windows), https://github.com/kozec/sc-controller (Linux), or https://github.com/360Controller/360Controller#readme (Mac).
Welcome!