making-mods-general

[marsh reef]

While you’re doing that

Make it steps rather than a clean slope

[strong kite]

omg it only grows in spring

[marsh reef]

More weathered and easier to add shading

[marsh reef]

11k seed that dies instantly out of spring 😂 😭

[scenic ferry]

that thing beter profit millions

[strong kite]

Hey, this seed can grow up to 8 or more berries that sell for 360 gold at normal quality
-# or it can grow only 1 berry

For the record this is NOT the only place to get the seed

[scenic ferry]

should rename it the GambleBramble

[strong kite]

It's also available from Sandy in Year 3 for a price that I should probably lower 😭

my balancing decisions were complete ASS 2 years ago

Heres the code for that btw so you can see what I meant by 8 or more berries

the extra harvest chance of 0.5 is I think one of the highest among my crops

[marsh reef]

400, 600-1000 at the cart, at this rate by only profit margins that seed that can grow up to eight, should be maxed 3,850 :3

[strong kite]

anyway I had that selling for 4000 per seed wtf was I on, basic math concludes that does NOT break even

[toxic topaz]

uhhhh, ill try

[strong kite]

I need to remember what reasons you would have to WANT to have this berry year 2 (or year 1 if you get the greenhouse soon enough which idk how possible that actually is in vanilla)

[marsh reef]

Is extra harvest chance the rerolling until you fail the check?

[strong kite]

I believe so

And I think it's affected by luck and/or farming level? probably just luck

[marsh reef]

😂 let everyone know you’ve got that bag

[marsh reef]

Probably just luck

[strong kite]

bro wdym the only recipe I use it for so far is Coffee 😭

[marsh reef]

Hot dang that takes a month to grow 😭 is it even reharvestable or is it a one shot

[strong kite]

OH WAIT RIGHT-

[strong kite]

one shot, but it can be put in a seed maker

But I forgot one VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT-
It's a UNIVERSALLY loved gift

[marsh reef]

Yea because it costs a year’s wage

😂

[strong kite]

Alright suddenly I feel justified in the price from the traveling cart

[marsh reef]

😭😭☠️☠️

[scenic ferry]

Gang rabbits foot is a one time investment

[marsh reef]

Dude if you’re thinking that universally loved gift makes it so good make it more rare then bro don’t make it just a billion dollars 🤔

Spend money to make money, not.. to make Pam less hateful

[scenic ferry]

do like the idea of a loved crop though

[strong kite]

That's why before Year 3 it's only available from the traveling cart if it's raining and only 4 hours before it closes for the day

There is a VERY specific window you have to buy the seed

But okay okay, do y'all think I should go back to the original prices from the traveling cart?

[scenic ferry]

year 3+ You almost definitely have high friendship with whoever you care about

[marsh reef]

Is that the 11k? 😭

[toxic topaz]

yea i have no clue how to do steps lol

[marsh reef]

No fr

Everyone is maxed by then if that’s your goal

[strong kite]

These are the original prices

[scenic ferry]

is this for one seed

[strong kite]

Yes

[marsh reef]

Oh up the difference a liiitle bit

[scenic ferry]

i see the vision i do

[strong kite]

Well yeah that's why in year 3 you can buy them for a flat 2000 at Oasis, which is when they're a little more financially viable. Still a gamble, and I might lower the price even more after testing

[marsh reef]

What does this mean

[scenic ferry]

the vision of a loved crop mostly
I'm not great with balancing though so my input is minimal

[marsh reef]

I see

[scenic ferry]

im just thinking in my runs, by year 3 I have everyone close to max anyway and am probably just giving them birthday gifts

[marsh reef]

Honestly, if you were to watch like a, max friendship speedrun video you’d get a pretty good idea of methods already in the game and therefore how hard yours should be

[strong kite]

Honestly my problem with this is that I lowkey never make it to year 3. I kinda tend to speedrun the game and end up dropping sometimes after year 1
So like that kind of balancing is a lot more difficult for me

Completely a me issue I understand that lol

[marsh reef]

Once you’re max fishing, if you grind hard enough you can get multiple stardrop tea a day

[scenic ferry]

i dont think its just you at all
But maybe try making something balanced for year one then

[strong kite]

How's these for the random prices?

[scenic ferry]

like realistically, year one, how much you paying for a universal loved gift that has no other function

[marsh reef]

HAH, yea I’ve uh.. I’ve never actually met Kent before I don’t think…

[strong kite]

Issue: This mod adds 67 berries and I did not want to make ALL of them available year 1 that sounds awfully overwhelming

[marsh reef]

Make 42 :3

12 15 15 0 with the seasons

Wait

😂

[scenic ferry]

i would maybe work on unique methods of obtaining them then instead of pushing them back years

Like maybe you only get seeds for this thing from dig spots, making them inherently rarer

and wouldnt overwhelm shop menus

[marsh reef]

Also could you maybe add one more or take one away…

[strong kite]

Which I've been doing!

[strong kite]

Unfortunately no. Again, I started this 2 years ago when that number wasn't.. you know..

[scenic ferry]

awesome! Then id just keep focusing on that instead of like, artificially trying to balance things for later years most players never reach?

[strong kite]

Although.. actually I COULD add more, there's a set of berries I haven't tapped yet..

[marsh reef]

😞 wdym no added berry

[scenic ferry]

scope creep my beloved

[strong kite]

The only problem is that If I add 1 of the berries then I'm gonna want to add the WHOLE set

[scenic ferry]

oh lord

[marsh reef]

Vas

[marsh reef]

:) how many

[strong kite]

Not to mention that one of the berries SHARES A NAME WITH A FUTURE BERRY THEY ADDED WHICH COMPLICATES THINGS DRASTICALLY-

[scenic ferry]

who is They

[strong kite]

12

[strong kite]

The Pokemon Company

[scenic ferry]

ooohhhh gotcha

[marsh reef]

They can share the same display name but have different id’s no? 🤔

[strong kite]

This is already in the mod

[scenic ferry]

right i see the issue now

pokemon berry mod does sound sick conceptually though

[strong kite]

I mean yeah but it feels weird to me 😭

[marsh reef]

That pumpkin looks oddd

[urban patrol]

i would do perspective more like this, if it helps?

[marsh reef]

Nahhhh

[strong kite]

I just don't think I want to go through the effort yet of adding MORE crops just to avoid the dreaded number

[urban patrol]

(forgive the finger on phone shakiness)

[marsh reef]

That is mostly good other then it’s meant to be a cliff, so that’s either a massive river mouth and cactus or..

[toxic topaz]

whoa that looks really good

[strong kite]

Especially when again I've already got 66 more that I've gotta have obtained in more unique ways

[toxic topaz]

im probably going to get rid of the sun tho

[strong kite]

Although I do like the idea of adding these 12 berries in a future update

[urban patrol]

it’s a road and a cactus yeah. i drew it more as a shelf than a high up cliff

[scenic ferry]

is your mod out currently perchance

[marsh reef]

I’ve got 99 problems and seeds ain’t one

[marsh reef]

I see, it’s a decent into a sandstorm, or meant to be if I remember 🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

[strong kite]

Yes, actually. It's been out for 2 years though it was in kind of an unfinished state. I'm currently in the process of updating it (which has suffered IMMENSE scope creep)

[scenic ferry]

lmk when the update is up i might just grab it

[strong kite]

believe it or not, my goal for this update was LITERALLY just to add enough recipes for every berry to have SOME kind of use.
And now I'm adding a fully giftable NPC with dialogue, sounds, cutscenes, etc. I'm actually adding gift tastes and a TON more giant crops and-
All kinds of stuff I never planned

[marsh reef]

Peak lost plot

[scenic ferry]

oh, actually a quick question for you... Since you seem, you know, pretty familiar with new crops, do you happen to know how hard is it to make a new fruit tree? been thinking about making a quick Yuzu tree mod

[strong kite]

This is the data folder for my mod in its current state on nexus

[latent mauve]

I haven't thought about Pokemon lore in a while, but it would be amusing to play a farmer who exports apricorns for aspiring trainers, LOL

[toxic topaz]

well i shrunk the pyramid... idk how to make steps though lol

[marsh reef]

Modded crops only run

[strong kite]

Oh shoooot uhhh my only experience with fruit trees was back when JSONAssets was the thing, I think before Content Patcher

[scenic ferry]

[toxic topaz]

wait...is that the same size

so turns out i didnt shrink the pyramid

[strong kite]

Anyway, this is my Data folder at this moment (plus one more file for triggeractions off screen)

[scenic ferry]

thats okay ill mess around with it anyway lmao
It can not possibly be more frustrating than dealing with .tmx tiled editing so

[marsh reef]

Either big steps with the bricks or make the bricks smaller, if you look at the great pyramid you’ll see what I mean

[marsh reef]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[strong kite]

I'd recommend checking out how Cornucopia does things, cuz I had figured things out for JsonAssets by looking at PPJA

[urban patrol]

i think the issue is the size of the bricks, not the size of the pyramid

[strong kite]

anyway where tf was I again?

[urban patrol]

detail vanishes as things get farther away

[modest dagger]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Fruit_trees

[latent mauve]

Instead of the tea empire method for money making, the farmer mass produces refined apricorns, aprijuice, pokeblocks, and poffins. LOL

[marsh reef]

Whaaat that’s not even that bad :33

[toxic topaz]

oh wait, no i did shrink the pyramid

[scenic ferry]

curious, what is your least favorite modding thing youve done then 👀

[marsh reef]

Chat when was the last time we all had a good bit of water?

[scenic ferry]

about 5 seconds ago

[toxic topaz]

well it looks better...

[modest dagger]

pants

[scenic ferry]

okay thats so fair actually

have not touched fashion sense...... yet

[toxic topaz]

ooh i think you're right

[marsh reef]

Making the npc work, the guild made no sense and he was highkey just a stretched 🚫, I’ve spent much more time on other things, but they were more fruitful throughout the process 😭, I haven’t done anything insane yet though so we’ll see

[marsh reef]

Shade the entrance :33

[scenic ferry]

ive adored making my two npcs work so far haha

i would make a hundred new npcs before I make another map

[marsh reef]

I stole the code from another mod because I legit spent 3 hours to make no progress..

[marsh reef]

Whaaaattt

[urban patrol]

what mood do you want people to feel as they look out across this desert? powerful? scared? etc

[marsh reef]

Bro making maps on tiled is highkey intuitive unless you need to figure out property data

[toxic topaz]

id make so many npcs if it meant i didnt have to draw anything else

[marsh reef]

HAHAHAHAH

you’re funny bro

[latent mauve]

Mine is probably my failed and unreleased attempt at making rotateable versions of the trees in planter boxes you get from the movie theater crane game rewards

Rotating foliage breaks my brain

[scenic ferry]

Trade offer
I make your npcs, you make my maps

[marsh reef]

😂

I’m not against helping you with maps bro sure 🙂‍↕️

[scenic ferry]

hell yeah

[marsh reef]

I spent like 5 hours the other day trying to brute force an FTM and content patcher crossover for a dude a while ago just bc I wanted to see it work

It worked bc esca helped me

[latent mauve]

I mean, having the framework author on your side helps

[marsh reef]

And I got my custom windows to work bc the creator of furniture framework ended up helping me too 😂

[latent mauve]

Look, my Laundry Machines wouldn't exist if Selph hadn't helped me

[marsh reef]

😂 bro what

[modest dagger]

selph made the machine furniture mod which was the framework fire used i think

[marsh reef]

Oh I see, but laundry machine?

Did you make clothes able to be dirtied

[latent mauve]

I made daily clothes acquisition

Don't think too hard about where the clothes come from, but the original intent was to make to so you could randomly find your spouse's clothes in the wash and wear them

That part isn't implemented yet

[strong kite]

Im realizing I dont need to make a separate file for all these different shops that'll have 1 new item in them each, I can just make one file with all the different editdatas in it

[marsh reef]

😂

[marsh reef]

Yes

[severe cairn]

Hello is this where I ask for someone to drop a bag of cheetos on me and make me orange

[marsh reef]

If it’s intended for modding

😭

[latent mauve]

Look, I ran into some technical limitations and never got around to trying again because other mods happened 😂

[marsh reef]

Fair enough

[severe cairn]

yeas
I want mod author role now that I am bluerr

[marsh reef]

Oohh

Yea how influential of a mod do you need to make to get hit with the sunset spray

[latent mauve]

influence is unimportant, got to have a published mod and be at the correct level

[severe cairn]

It says I only need lvl 25 and a published mod and to ask in here, so some admin dump cheetos on me

[marsh reef]

Ohhh what level :o

I seeeeee

[round dock]

You need to dm bouncer

[latent mauve]

can always DM Bouncer for a cheeto dusting if there isn't a juni peeking in

[severe cairn]

ohhh

thanku

might need to update the guide haha

[marsh reef]

Chat you’re 24

[round dock]

Just dm bouncer first tho

[marsh reef]

Dm them what

[round dock]

it’s me hai

[marsh reef]

Oh just dm them and it’ll check?

[round dock]

Lol just dm em you wanna get dusted

[marsh reef]

I see I see

[marsh reef]

Hey it’s me, the real slim shady

[round dock]

Afaik, it’s dm first then add your name to the wiki

[modest dagger]

good enough for an aquaculture farm for now

[marsh reef]

Pretty gooood

[patent lance]

New quote added by celestia187 as #7877 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1493312543312314460)

[marsh reef]

😭 how’d I get quoted

[toxic topaz]

now im getting pyramid videos on my feed im being taunted

[marsh reef]

The only streamer I watch loves the pyramids

[strong kite]

Scope Creep is hitting me again

[marsh reef]

what is that

radiohead song of realization

[fossil osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933546639669493791/1485727544773836871/ScopeScreep.gif

[strong kite]

I'm gonna be adding more cutscenes to my mod. At least 2 more

[marsh reef]

right

[strong kite]

I was gonna shift around where crops are sold but I can do that later, I'm gonna work on this now

[fossil osprey]

Oh I should have used the sdv stick bug scope creep gif, I have it saved :c

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1458949849553698847/1485693715589890108/stickbug.gif

There, it's here

[marsh reef]

what is scope creep though

[fossil osprey]

it's when you think you're finished, but then what if you added that…

[strong kite]

Although I should properly finish my first cutscene first 😭

[fossil osprey]

you widen your scope, it's creeping and getting bigger

[marsh reef]

ooohhh

[fossil osprey]

so the scope creep

[craggy goblet]

• You work on Thing
• You get more ideas as time passes
• You end up with WAY too many ideas and don't know where to work on anymore
• You keep working on stuff anyway :D

[fossil osprey]

-# oh wow i just had a pretty intense dissociation there, for a second I wasn't me

[craggy goblet]

basically lmaoo

[toxic topaz]

good problem to have lol

[fossil osprey]

it's good until your standalone NPC becomes a full blown expansion

[craggy goblet]

Is there even a limit to ingredients you can put into a Recipe?

[marsh reef]

okay yea that happened to me then yes 😎

[fossil osprey]

no

i've seen horror recipes

[craggy goblet]

oh Yoba

[marsh reef]

custom farm layout turned into whats gonna be an animal crossing new leaf crossover

[fossil osprey]

do you know everything bagel

[strong kite]

Not when I preferably want to finish this on or before the 16th of april

[marsh reef]

one of every recipe >:)

[fossil osprey]

-# oh wait we're in making mod, not modded farmer

-# I'm in modded farmer mod with these messages

[marsh reef]

yea celestia i finished the farm layout and it's technically useable, i just gotta finish 4 of the npc's and 5 homes to finish adding them in 😅

oh.. and two more house designs with colored roofs

[strong kite]

Is there a way to make an NPC ignore their schedule for the rest of the day and stand in one spot until the next day after an event?

[calm nebula]

Not easily

You can make them invisibility though

[strong kite]

ah.. I was kinda hoping to give him end dialogue while standing in place

Oh well, I wont worry about it. The Wizard basically stays within his tower anyway, right?

[ornate locust]

The wizard has no schedule

unless you mod him, then he has a schedule

[strong kite]

Oh. Well I guess that makes that a little simpler

[toxic topaz]

thats why hes such a good npc, does so much and so little at the same time

[ornate locust]

If you don't care about mod compatibility, yep

just sits like a lump

[strong kite]

I still wont worry about it if there's not an easy way to change where he's sitting after the event

[ornate locust]

It's funny that he mostly just teleports to move in events

knowing he has no schedule to just walk around. Imagine he just teleports everywhere

[strong kite]

I'd believe it

[craggy goblet]

That's basically Satoru Gojo if bro didn't kinda have to pretend he's normal while in public 🤣🤔

[fossil osprey]

maybe he's disabled and actually can't walk 🤔

I love unexpected lore spurring from circumstances

[strong kite]

i was about to say something but then I remembered George

[ornate locust]

He walks in the door in his event

and over to the cauldron

[strong kite]

OOPS- I forgot to look at the console while I was opening my game, errors galore 😭

Oh the whole mod failed to load-

It's cuz I added DynamicTokens to my content file without knowing how to properly add them

[marsh reef]

So real

[strong kite]

ughhh I think I'm also getting bundles erroring cuz I haven't properly set them up yet but I've prepared in advance to..

[marsh reef]

😎

take em out for rn

[strong kite]

Yee, just have them not included in the content file?

[marsh reef]

yea

copy paste their section somewhere safe

[strong kite]

I mean it's a simple include data/bundles.json

[marsh reef]

oh, then yea take that out

[strong kite]

I also didn't exactly finish the gift tastes so I'm just gonna add something for Darkrai in each category and hope that fixes the errors for now

[ocean sail]

@strong kite You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!

[strong kite]

Oh! That came quickly!

[marsh reef]

🤣

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

[toxic topaz]

maybe i should just hire some teenager on fiverr to draw this for me

[marsh reef]

once i decide im actually good on the farm design im gonna continue work on the npcs

[marsh reef]

hows it going rn?

[toxic topaz]

havent made any progress lol, so i went back to doing my river

[strong kite]

okay the issue mightve just been I didn't close it out with brackets properly

[fossil osprey]

"prettier shade of blue"
> is currently rainbow

[toxic topaz]

i dont have the skills or the brain to visualize what im supposed to do to make it look how i want it to

[marsh reef]

if you look up pixel art pyramid there's some pretty references

[toxic topaz]

this is kinda already how mine looks lol

[strong kite]

yknow I'm also just gonna take out the Dialogue file for now cuz that's giving me yellow errors I don't want to figure out yet

[marsh reef]

yesthese are kinda how it'll need to look to be able to be distant

if you're seeing every detail of the pyramid it literally cant be very far

[toxic topaz]

well its not like its crazy far away...

maybe like a mile at most

and you're seeing it unobstructed

[marsh reef]

right but that detail is like, a block or two

[strong kite]

alright so right now I'm viewing my first event to see how it looks after some changes, then I think I'm gonna focus on making the other events one at a time

[marsh reef]

while adding new things to add along the way, yes 😎

[strong kite]

ehhh probably tbh

This is all already a side tangent in a side tangent. Cuz my plan was to work on bundles, but then I got sidetracked into rearranging where the seeds from my mod are sold, and NOW I'm sidetracked into doing the events

[toxic topaz]

so i just get the blur filter or something lol

[marsh reef]

mmmm, blinding sun radiance + heat waves

🤣 the cactus

[toxic topaz]

sun radince id try if it didnt look weird when the sun went down 😭

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️

[fossil osprey]

Maybe having less defined bricks would help?

Like, if it's that far away, you wouldn't see that much details

[marsh reef]

stardew valley but the view distance is nuh uh

kaizo

[toxic topaz]

hmmm, so just swap out the brick separation color for something lighter? so i blends a little with the pyramid?

[marsh reef]

smaller bricks could help with it feeling further too

[craggy goblet]

Okay folks, recipe ingredient list (for now):

• Milk x3
• Slime x5
• Cherries x4
• Apricots x4
• Mango x1
• Green Tea x2
• Blueberries x4
• Wild Plums x2
• Melon x1

-# ... It's supposed to be a multicolored gelatine-milk dessert in the end.

[marsh reef]

needs more variety 🤓

honestly not enough variety until you need the wiki or smthn to see the whole recipe 😭

[toxic topaz]

maybe?

ill add the other side and the lines and see

[marsh reef]

oooooo, yes that's actually really well sized

figuring where to show and kinda hide the definition of the lines will lowkey be a sparatic dabble here and there like Bob Ross, but yk

[toxic topaz]

i guess i can just up the intensity of the blur and hope one can just assume its heat lol

[fossil osprey]

this, or even removing some lines

[strong kite]

What's an easy way to check if the player has met Krobus to start an event the next morning?

[marsh reef]

i think that you're over complicating it

bc like with these, its legit just removing a bunch

making blur look good would be harder

[strong kite]

I guess I could do like.. 1 friendship point with Krobus?

[toxic topaz]

hmmmm

[ornate locust]

PLAYER_HAS_MET Current Krobus

There is a GSQ for it

[strong kite]

Ah, dang that's not in the event data section on the wiki

[ornate locust]

It's in GSQs probably

[strong kite]

Probably. My guess is the wiki expects you to go to GSQ's own page for those

[ornate locust]

For Content Patcher tokens, you can do "Relationship:Krobus": "Friendly"

[strong kite]

As long as it works, the GSQ should work

[marsh reef]

if you could imagine that spread out kinda is what im thinkin

bc it cant be perfect, its a pyramid in the desert :3

[toxic topaz]

yea that looks good

[strong kite]

If I were to set an event to occur fall 28 between 600 and 610, so the morning after spirit's eve, in year 1.. would there be any reason players might end up bypassing that and ending up missing the trigger for this event?

[toxic topaz]

hmmm

ill jumble it up a touch too

[craggy goblet]

If I have a lot of variants of a dish, how exactly do I unify them? Like, a bunch of food that shares the same base name, but I'd like a generic reaction for gifting any of them.

[marsh reef]

smthn with this, i imagine you can add universal, then list ur things

[spiral lion]

**does anyone know why the action dont work? **"winter_Wed": "You've been busy lately, huh?$0#$b#Your farm's doing okay?$action AddMoney -30#$e#What the fuck? No. I didn't take shit from you.$3",

[marsh reef]

try with "winter_4" and see if that works

[spiral lion]

okii will try!

[verbal glacier]

you need a # before the $action

[spiral lion]

ohh makes sense

[marsh reef]

no idea how this works or if the dialogues after are needed, but this is a modd that adds diamonds to universally loved and out of universally liked

[brittle pasture]

give them the same context tag, and use that context tag in dialogue/gift tastes/etc

[brittle pasture]

don't do this btw, this is bad practice (replacing the entire like list just to add one entry)

[marsh reef]

would you just "Universal_Love": {ItemID},?

[brittle pasture]

no

[marsh reef]

🤣

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#text-operations

[marsh reef]

i seeeee

[calm nebula]

"winter_Wed": "You've been busy lately, huh?$0#$b#Your farm's doing okay?#$action AddMoney -30#$e#What the fuck? No. I didn't take shit from you.$3",

Actions need to have their own little space, separated by #

If that doesnt work put the action first

[marsh reef]

😭 wait bro's making an npc rob you?

[summer spoke]

Sorry, odd question, but does anyone know what the mod is called that tells you the x and y spot? Like, if I press ` or something it gives me the details? Does that make sense?

[brittle pasture]

debug mode

[summer spoke]

right, thank you

[vale holly]

what class does SaveGameInfo deserialize into

is it SaveGame ?

[brittle pasture]

obligatory "what do you want to do"

[vale holly]

I'm doing an addon mod for quicksave that adds save slots, I want to read some info about the saves to show in the ui.

[void aspen]

kinda something that mobile sdv has?

that would be super neat

[vale holly]

I'm talking about this mod specifically https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/26194

[toxic topaz]

@marsh reef hey you're right that does make it look a bit better i feel

[void aspen]

I think adding some dunes would also improve the scene

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ I feel like you'd either need a fair bit more that's smoothed out to not have the darker lines, or have the bricks more fleshed out bc some are a really reasonable size then theres the ones down near the bottom that are almost the whole length of the pyramid

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️ we're getting the pyramid tuned up rn

[toxic topaz]

you're right, but sadly i cant picture them lol, so i cant draw them either

[marsh reef]

look up references

[void aspen]

just some lines

[marsh reef]

🤓 isnt all of art

[toxic topaz]

... i have no clue how id incorporate that lol

[marsh reef]

can you send the actual picture? :3 @toxic topaz

[toxic topaz]

sure

wait do you use aseprite?

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↔️

just the actual png is good dw

[toxic topaz]

im using layers... uhhh, let me just save a copy and flatten this one for you

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ 🙂‍↕️

[void aspen]

that's interesting

[marsh reef]

highkey looking at aseprite rn and it seems like it would be wildly helpful for the things i gotta do later

[toxic topaz]

you can get it for free, theres a guide on how to do it on their official github

[marsh reef]

oh sick

[toxic topaz]

just takes like half an hour

[marsh reef]

gotta love building stuff

[summer spoke]

when you want to work but a cat decides it is time to cuddle...not the worst problem to have mind you

[marsh reef]

unfortunately i will never understand the amount of leniency yall have with pets

[toxic topaz]

i feel like having some shadow or something along the horizon to make it look like it keeps on going would help a lot....

or maybe dont even have a horizon infinite desert

[strong kite]

Would I be able to have an event load the Winter tileset for Cindersap Forest while the actual season is Fall?

[marsh reef]

chat what am i reading

[uncut viper]

I don't think so, not unless you make a custom location that is just like the Cindersap forest but with a custom tilesheet that is just the winter tilesheets but not named with winter_ in front.
Event wizards may know better than me in this regard though.

[void aspen]

I suppose it would be easier to create a custom tmx and no seasonal tilesheet

[toxic topaz]

its super confusing, theres a youtube video thats a good guide

[uncut viper]

Afaik any tilesheet loading checks for the season prefixes and swaps them out very early on in the tilesheet loading cycle and I don't know a way to tell it not to do that

[void aspen]

or use the vanilla one just with map property SeasonOverride Winter

[uncut viper]

(with an event command or similar I should say)

[strong kite]

Alright so I'll probably be better off just making a copy of Cindersap Forest map and loading into that map instead of regular cindersap forest for the event?

[urban patrol]

you might be able to do it with location context?

[uncut viper]

As long as you're fine with losing any and all compatibility with mods that add to the cindersap forest.

(Since their edits won't be on your custom forest)

[strong kite]

No no I mean making a completely brand new map that's just Cindersap forest Copied and then the event loads you into that copy of the map

[uncut viper]

Yes I know

[strong kite]

Oh wait I see what you mean. Ehhh it'll be fine..?

[uncut viper]

To use SVE as an example, your copy of it won't have Andy's house.

[urban patrol]

wasn’t someone considering making a framework to grab things from the pipeline after edits have been applied

[strong kite]

It's meant for a dream sequence that'll only take place like right here

[urban patrol]

i want to say selph?

[craggy goblet]

Actually kinda cool if it's just a small amount of money 👀🤣

[uncut viper]

Conditionally editing the location context may work however the issue would be changing it back in time since the quickest you could do that is either on LocationChanged or TimeChanged

It might work to set it when you enter the location, but if your event leaves you in the forest after, the patch won't update.

Not immediately anyway

[strong kite]

It happens basically before you wake up, so you start in your bed, the location changes to the forest, then the location will change back to the farm house

[urban patrol]

button, does using changeLocation event command count as LocationChanged

[calm nebula]

(It should)

[uncut viper]

It would

[strong kite]

although I'm not sure exactly how I'll do anything in the farmhouse cuz that is WILDLY variable

[uncut viper]

The location context thing is probably worth a shot then but you'd need a custom locationcontext set to winter

[urban patrol]

do it on the porch is my advice

[uncut viper]

You won't be able to do things in the farmhouse

[strong kite]

Alright that's fine then. I don't think I need to ACTUALLY do things inside the farm house

[uncut viper]

It might be worth looking into More Nightly Events for this as well

[strong kite]

The problem is this is a dream sequence so the player would be in bed 😭

But I just wont cut to the world outside of the dream then

And honestly if some things look jank I kinda like that, it's a dream after all

[long jungle]

Hi! Just wanna confirm something...

Monster Musk only works in the Mines and Skull Caverns, yes?

Or are places like the Island Volcano, Island Farm, Secret Woods, also affected by Monster Musk?

By extension, all FTM-made and spawned monsters are also not affected, right?

[verbal glacier]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Monster_Musk

[long jungle]

How about FTM monsters?

[verbal glacier]

that I do not know, sorry

[brittle pasture]

haven't dug into FTM code to confirm but I think you're correct

[long jungle]

Thanks!

They probably also aren't affected. Was just making sure.

[long jungle]

Thank you Selph!

Also I am done migrating my mod from Slingshot Framework to EMC. Thank you so much! I can even edit explosion radius and damage now which is much much better.

Sorry, I meant EMC

[toxic topaz]

nice got the river done, just need to turn it into quicksand using mmap

[strong kite]

okay shoot I recognize this error but I dont see in the tmx where it's got too much path

[marsh reef]

@toxic topaz i have aseprite now :)))

[strong kite]

Alright hey so what if I do that context change thing during the event, how do I do that?

instead of this new map thing

[latent mauve]

if you send the TMX, I can take a look in the XML code for you and find it, probably

(I won't need the tilesets to do that, since I'll only be looking in Visual Studio Code to read the XML)

[marsh reef]

aseprite how do i use layers :3 found out

[latent mauve]

https://www.aseprite.org/docs/tutorial/

That might be a helpful resource for you too 🙂

[toxic topaz]

Nice

[long jungle]

I'm fairly new to i18n translations and I've encountered an issue and I'd appreciate any help.

I did this on content.json:

{                         //Defender Description Changes            
                    
   "Action": "EditData",
   "Target": "Strings/UI",
         "Entries": {


"LevelUp_ProfessionDescription_Defender": "{{i18n:FjorlagRond.MWBRM/LevelUpDefender.Description}}",
    
            },                                    

            "When": {
                "Defender Profession Buff": true,
                }
},

and I have this on default.json:

"FjorlagRond.MWBRM/LevelUpDefender.Description": "+25 Max HP, +5 Defense, and +1.25 HP/Second.",

But for some reason, the translation token is not being recognized. Are Strings/UI special in some way that I need to make a different translation.json for it to work or should I just straight up type it in English on CP since Strings/UI has it's own translated counterparts in the games files?

[latent mauve]

Seems most likely to be the source from your winter_outdoorsTileSheet.es-ESdream.tsx file

So you'll need to change the TSX image source's path

[strong kite]

hm.. Alright

[brittle pasture]

the code looks correct; make sure you saved your code and you either reloaded the game or use reload_i18n

(and localized assets have nothing to do with your issue)

[summer spoke]

Does anyone know which wikipedia has the information of event ids? I want to make an event only playable after unlocking the community center, would that be there?

[calm nebula]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[calm nebula]

Best way to find ida

[summer spoke]

thank you

[uncut viper]

The fact that it was changed in game at all means the code is working. The "no translation" thing means SMAPI was unable to actually find whatever you asked for in your i18n. This would either be to a typo'd i18n key in the token, a typo'd key in the i18n json itself, or like Selph says, unreloaded i18n

You also don't need your mod ID in your i18n keys, by the way

They are always local to your mod and not shared globally among the entire modlist

[strong kite]

Yknow maybe I just wont worry about this event taking place in Winter tiles

This feels like a whole lotta hassle and workaround for something kinda just cosmetic

[latent mauve]

I feel like it's not as difficult as you are probably making it

[strong kite]

You would think that. And you're probably right

[latent mauve]

is this the winter version of the vanilla tilesets that you're trying to use?

[long jungle]

Thanka Selph. Will do that

[strong kite]

Yea

Oh wait wait wait a minute I did a thing got a different error and now I think I can fix it?

[long jungle]

Ooh I see.

But correct me if I am wrong, it's useful in a way that you can know easily which mod failed to translate something, yeah?

[strong kite]

agghhh rats nevermind

[latent mauve]

I am kinda curious as to if you can circumvent this whole thing by making your "copy" of the map think it's an indoor area via the map property instead of an outdoor, since season_ conventions typically only trigger automatically while on an outdoor map. xD

[strong kite]

I mean.. but that still uses a copy of the map, so why not just have the copy be permanently winter?

[calm nebula]

You dont even need to do that

[latent mauve]

yes, you'd change the copy to use the winter sheet and with it being an "indoors" location, it wouldn't change off winter.

ah, atra has a better solution

[calm nebula]

change to temporary location would work too

[toxic topaz]

@marsh reef when you want to show me what you were talking about just ping me and I’ll see it when I get back

[strong kite]

Can I use that to make it the winter version of cindersap forest in a different season?

[latent mauve]

I thought that was already what was being done based on what I saw in the previous discussion, but I guess not!

[uncut viper]

The usefulness of that is subjective. It would be most useful to the mod author, since they are the ones who would change it, and they should be testing to make sure it never appears anyway

[strong kite]

Right now the issue is getting the map to actually load into the game properly

[uncut viper]

It also makes it more likely for typos to happen if you have to type more for the i18n key

Especially since you cannot use {{ModId}} in your i18n key inside the i18n json itself

[strong kite]

Im doing some VERY wacky things with this file trying to get it done quick and I think that's what's doing me in

[latent mauve]

Is there a reason you needed custom TSX files?

[long jungle]

Noted, Button. Thanks a lot!

[strong kite]

To quickly swap the default textures to the winter textures

It's what I did when swapping the emily's dream sequence textures to my own recolor of them

I might just not worry about this cuz this is a whole lot more hassle than it's actually worth

[latent mauve]

Why aren't you just replacing the tilesheet reference to use the winter_ version of the tilesheet as the image source rather than spring_ ?

From the embedded tilesheet

[strong kite]

uhhh- cuz I don't know what I'm doing 😭

[uncut viper]

Seasonal tilesheets would be swapped out regardless of what season the source starts with

[latent mauve]

That was why I mentioned being curious as to if setting the map property to not be Outdoors would stop that behavior.

[uncut viper]

Can you change the map properties of a temporaryLocation with an event command?

[latent mauve]

You can change the map properties on your copy of the map if it's a separate TMX

[uncut viper]

Then you lose every other edit to the forest

From other mods

[calm nebula]

I don't think so

[latent mauve]

I'm thinking of this being used ONLY with changetoTemporaryMap in an event

[calm nebula]

Wait, really?

[latent mauve]

and not a forest edit

[calm nebula]

Could have sworn it was done via seasonUpdate

(And temporary locations escape it)

Unless that was changed in 1.6

(Very possible)

[uncut viper]

GameLocation.GetSeasonalTilesheetName() which is called via GameLocation.updateSeasonalTileSheets() which is called on every fade to black being completed

Or for every ApplyMapOverride

[calm nebula]

Even for temporary locations?

[uncut viper]

Well you'd have to fade to black to get there wouldnt you

[latent mauve]

for science, I just swapped out the spring_ things to winter_ real quick

[uncut viper]

It's a long function, I could be mistaken, but that still doesnt solve the problem of losing every other mods edits to the forest if you use a temp location

[finite ginkgo]

yes even for temp locations, i remember that being fixed sometime during the 1.6 alpha i believe (previously it wouldn't)

[calm nebula]

Huh

[uncut viper]

If you make a separate .tmx just for your temporary location, then you have made a copy of the vanilla forest. Edits aren't going to be applied to it.

[strong kite]

-# reminder that I'm okay with this

[latent mauve]

I was assuming that they would likely need to do different versions for maps that change the forest a lot for compat, but if this is the only space that's the concern...

[strong kite]

-# that too

[uncut viper]

That's still quite a lot of space that can be changed by other mods

[latent mauve]

It's also in a dream, you can handwave quite a bit there 😛

[uncut viper]

Also, you would need separate copies for the different variants of the raccoon house.

[strong kite]

How soon can the raccoons happen?

[uncut viper]

You can, and I'm not saying it makes the whole idea impossible. Just saying it loses compatibility.

If that's fine by you, that's fine

[latent mauve]

In base game, raccoons won't happen until after greenhouse is complete.

fixed

[uncut viper]

As soon as any C# mod wants them to happen. Which might be after the greenhouse, or it might be changed to be earlier

[latent mauve]

There comes a point when you decide "this isn't worth worrying about compatibility over"

[strong kite]

Hey maybe since it's a dream the farmer remembers what the area was like before the raccoons moved in because that's what they had seen for longer

[latent mauve]

for a one-off event, this would be that point for me. LOL

[strong kite]

Im realizing I am gonna want a way to convey the fact it's a dream

on another note.. is there a command for forcing an event to end?

[latent mauve]

like a debug command, or a hard stop in an event?

[strong kite]

Debug

[latent mauve]

I think it's actually just something along the lines of debug endevent

very aptly named

[strong kite]

[latent mauve]

Then you are not in an event according to the game

[strong kite]

ok so my game's stuck on a black screen

Oh wait a minute

Oh this is so cursed

[latent mauve]

ah, you might be having the "warping when event starts" bug.

_>

debug warp and put yourself in another location to see

[strong kite]

Ohhhh probably because that's what the event was trying to do

[latent mauve]

debug warp farm is a quick one

If a player is mid-warp when an event begins, they can get a lovely black screen and are effectively stuck until they are warped again.

It's a bug.

(I run into this all the time with mods that use broadcast events that another player has accidentally triggered while people are moving between maps)

[strong kite]

I need to make a new test save for this cuz my current test save has completed some of the conditions for these events already 😭

[latent mauve]

just one more reason I avoid broadcast events

until it gets fixed

[strong kite]

and the events aren't finished being scripted lmao

So is there just not a way to remove the property that makes the tiles change depending on season?

[latent mauve]

would you mind checking if the file I posted here works, TnTDove?

With ChangeToTemporaryMap, of course, so as to not replace the Forest.

I am still curious about if it will work since it's not Outdoors

_>

[uncut viper]

It's not a "swap out the tilesheets" property. It's a side effect of whether or not the map is considered an outdoors area. Which handles a lot more than just the tilesheets.

[strong kite]

Oh, so Fireredlily's idea would probably actually work?

[uncut viper]

(the Summit and the Desert also ignore it)

(Actually I read that backwards I think, Summit might not ignore it, I'm not sure why it checks for that specifically)

(Is Summit not treated as outdoors?)

[strong kite]

It's funky but it works!

Notice the icon in the top right :3c

[latent mauve]

thank you for completing the science!

I appreciate you humoring my curiosity

[finite ginkgo]

haven't fully read the current discussion, but if you want to have a specific season's tilesheets apply to the map at all time consider the SeasonOverride <string season> map property

[latent mauve]

EnderTedi, they want the seasons to not change on the map for this at all. 🙂

[strong kite]

The fact it looks kinda dark and off honestly makes this even more fitting I feel like

[latent mauve]

Specifically needed winter.

[uncut viper]

That's what EnderTedi said, no?

[latent mauve]

So that may also work!

[finite ginkgo]

that'd be what seasonoverride is for

[latent mauve]

Yep yep, I misread for a minute

I don't recall seeing/knowing about that map property before

but yeah, if the lighting is funky because it's Indoors, you can change the map properties on the copy to include SeasonOverride winter

[strong kite]

Would that be put in Custom Properties?

Or in the json for the map?

[latent mauve]

in the Custom Properties is fine.

[strong kite]

The nice thing about these solutions is it means I don't need random copies of the textures in my mod!

[latent mauve]

outdoors and indoor maps do have different lighting behaviors

kind of

one of them uses path lights natively and one doesn't

[strong kite]

I really should've copied the warp debug to my clipboard I'm sick of writing out the map with my mod id 😭

[marsh reef]

@toxic topaz if you can imagine the whole place kinda built like this? 🤔

[latent mauve]

my brain is blanking on which is which at this moment

[strong kite]

Ayyyy!

[whole prism]

You're one with the tree!

And the tree is with you

[strong kite]

So it would seem

Now I can actually work on the event!

[latent mauve]

It takes most many years of meditation to become one with nature, and you've done it in an instant.

[strong kite]

Can I make this event start with a black screen and a text box? Kinda like after the earthquake that unlocks the railroad that's like "Something happened last night" but it starts the event instead of ending it

[latent mauve]

If you put your viewport way offscreen maybe?

and then change it after a fade

[strong kite]

Alright and I just found the message command

[uncut viper]

Keep in mind that if you're not doing a true nightly event, other actual nightly events can still happen overnight that may spoil the illusion of it being a dream.

I would maybe double check what happens if the player has a wedding on the same morning as the event

[latent mauve]

Button, you're making me want to make an afternoon nap event. 😛

[uncut viper]

(I think the wedding will probably play first and then your event would start when brought back to the farmhouse)

(Actually wait does the wedding drop you off at your porch. Maybe not then.)

[latent mauve]

(it does)

[uncut viper]

Then just make sure your preconditions for the event don't require it to be a very specific day

[latent mauve]

There is a framework for custom night events IIRC

[uncut viper]

I mentioned it earlier, More Nightly Events

[latent mauve]

ah, I must have missed it while I was still finishing up at work

sorry about that

[strong kite]

Hm... How likely would it be for a player to have a wedding the day after they first meet Krobus or after Spirits Eve?

[uncut viper]

(I think it was before you got here)

[latent mauve]

finally off the clock now though!

[uncut viper]

I mean, as likely as any other day

[latent mauve]

Fairly likely on the day after Spirits Eve if they accidentally proposed in the days before it and it got pushed back to after the festival

[uncut viper]

If it's the day after spirits eve, then its even a little more likely

Because of that, yeah

[strong kite]

Ohhh shoot good to know

[uncut viper]

The thing with the wedding though is that it wouldn't mean the event couldnt play at all

If they walked back into their farmhouse afterwards, then it would play (assuming you dont have a narrow time precondition)

Which would be quite weird for an event thats supposed to seemingly happen overnight

[calm nebula]

Eh, good enough

[uncut viper]

Also, it wouldnt play if the player was on ginger island

[calm nebula]

There is only so much you can do if you're not doing the sharp

[strong kite]

Is it possible to be on ginger island after Spirits Eve?

Oh I guess just dont attend?

[uncut viper]

Anything is possible with modding.

[calm nebula]

Also you dream of nice things on ginger island like. Margaritas

[strong kite]

I mean at that point you can't possibly account for everything

[uncut viper]

As always, my philosophy with helping with things like this is that I am going to mention every possible issue I can think of. It's up to the person making the mod to decide how much they care about each of them, but I just want them to be informed that there can be issues. Makes no difference to me how much compat. someone does or does not care about, I'm just here to inform

[latent mauve]

I mean, you could create two versions of the event and set one to flag the other as being seen so you cover both the Farmhouse and the Ginger Island Farmhouse

[calm nebula]

You could give the two the same event id

[latent mauve]

^ or that, yes

that would be easier

[calm nebula]

Game actually does this, see Pam house event

[latent mauve]

I always forget about the Pam event

It has two many variations so I get lost xD

[strong kite]

I might just not worry about it too much. I mean, theoretically, what's the worst that could happen? An immersion break?

If that's the worst then I think I'm okay with that

[uncut viper]

(That said, early access to ginger Island is really not an inconceivable thing by far)

[latent mauve]

(especially with other mods involved)

[strong kite]

that's true... actually quite frankly that sounds like a mod I'd want 😭

[calm nebula]

You dont even need a mod lol

CC completion by a good player can be easily mid fall

[latent mauve]

In case you care later, the target for the Ginger Island Farmhouse for events is Data/Events/IslandFarmHouse

(I just checked to make sure it existed and didn't need a blank load)

[strong kite]

I think the ginger island thing is fine for this first event, cuz this one is just when the player has met krobus and the time is 600 - 610. So if you sleep on ginger island the day after, the event just wont trigger and it'll trigger the next time they sleep in the main farm house

[calm nebula]

There is also the issue of tents

But maybe you dont dream in tents

[latent mauve]

Look, if they choose to avoid their original bed for that long, maybe they deserve to miss out on the event. 😛

I could see roughing it not being conducive to dreaming

[strong kite]

I'm okay with this, especially since these events aren't mandatory or anything. These are basically just to give in universe ways to discover things

Like in this first event I want the player in the dream to discover the location of a buried seed

And then the player can actually go to that location and dig it up

But it'll ALWAYS be there if you already know it's there

And the second event is just to draw curiosity around the edible item that starts my chain of actual events

So you then see it in Krobus' shop and think "Hey, that's the item from that event!" and remember that you got taken somewhere crazy after drinking it in the event, so despite the fact it'll exhaust you the player will be inclined to drink it when they get it

[void aspen]

is there any way to make tiles on front layer be semi transparent when player is behind them

like trees in game

is there any tile property or cp friendly way to do it

I suppose top of the tree is a bit of a different entity due to how it renders and behaves

but maybe there's a way

[lucid iron]

There's a dependency for that

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6540

[void aspen]

super tysm

[lucid iron]

This one is for users tho they can simply install

[strong kite]

Is there an easy way to have the farmer do the harvesting animation in an event? cuz honestly the stuff I'm finding on the wiki ain't helping me..

[calm nebula]

No

(You have to input the animation frame by frame)

[strong kite]

Then can anyone help me through understanding how to work with.. this?

[summer spoke]

Okay, I admit, it's been so long since I worked on trying to mod that I've forgotten the basics. Where should I start again? I saved both my json and my manifest, but I think starting there would be a good idea, or am I overthinking that again?

[strong kite]

Wait hold on I might understand it

[latent mauve]

friends, there's a farmerAnimation <anim> event command, but no reference to what <anim> could be. Any input?

The description just says "Briefly sets the farmer's sprite to <anim> for a variable (depending on sprite) interval. "

which does not explain what valid values for anim are xD

Also it's apparently used once in vanilla events, so I guess I should try to track that down

found it, it's the event with Abigail playing Journey of the Prairie King in SeedShop: farmerAnimation 97

[strong kite]

yeah I keep trying to look up these ids for these animations but cant find jack on the wiki, at least nothing that's listed concisely and clearly

[latent mauve]

Head scratching/looking sheepish (used in Abigail video game event, several others): R17F2 (frame index 97)

so it's a frame index

uhhhh

who replaced all the sprite index PNGs on the wiki with a skirt PNG?

[strong kite]

WAIT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THAT??

I didn't question it 😭

[latent mauve]

no

It was definitely the sprite sheet at some point (when I referenced it for the outfits/pants file)

[strong kite]

Okay Im not sure what I'm missing here

didnt mean to send in 2 i just forgot that bit was relevant

[latent mauve]

viewport <actor> is expecting an NPC/actor name or player for <actor>

so try replacing farmer with player

[uncut viper]

If you mean on the Modding:Farmer_sprite page, they havent been touched since 2022.

[latent mauve]

hm

I wonder if there's a different page I'm thinking of that had the farmer base sprites then, because I definitely referenced SOMETHING with the same boxes previously

[uncut viper]

@old egret Mods that have AI generated content in them, including code (as your description mentions Co-pilot), are not allowed in this server.

[latent mauve]

but it was not skirts/pants

[old egret]

Oh, okay. sorry.

Should I remove it from Nexus as well?

[uncut viper]

We don't moderate Nexusmods and Nexus has no issue with AI generated content.

[strong kite]

Can I get the camera to follow the player's movements in the event? (to the extent of not going past map bounds?)

I thought viewport with clamp would do that but it didn't work

i had also tried unfreeze before but that didn't seem to work either. maybe I did it wrong though

[latent mauve]

There's a map property for that, I'm not sure if there's an event command though?

[strong kite]

I feel like unfreeze based on its description is exactly what I want but idk how to use it properly

[half tangle]

if you know where the player is going, you could try viewport move based on what this says and see if that does what you want, but be careful about its note about "coordinates" https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Events_for_Everyone#Camera

[marsh reef]

aseprite, if i have photos open and i close it without closing them will they possibly stay saved when i open it again? :3

[strong kite]

There might be a setting for that but I don't know. By default it doesn't do that, although it should have a tab when you open it that shows recent things you had open

[toxic topaz]

Holy crap that looks so good

wtf

[marsh reef]

eyyy thanks

[toxic topaz]

I feel like those colors would look a little strange with my pyramid, but damn that looks good wth

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ just used colors from the sand

[void aspen]

You did this so good omg

[marsh reef]

you could recolor the sand or i'd personally say recolor the pyramid to be closer to vanilla sand

[void aspen]

Ase allows to replace colors so you pick the ones dune have and put the sdv sand ones

[toxic topaz]

Well I stole the pyramid colors from the pyramid decal

So it’s canon accurate

[marsh reef]

chat there's a pyramid?

🤣

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ I see I see

[toxic topaz]

Jesus, it’s like looking through glasses for the first time

[marsh reef]

🤣

oh i didnt uh

here

[void aspen]

I think this is one of the furniture wall decorations?

It looks pretty saturated compared to the gi/cd sand hm

[toxic topaz]

Idk if I can match up to that Bro omg

[toxic topaz]

Yea, you fish it up I think

[marsh reef]

honestly really simple, start with the darkest and second lightest, then use the shading ink to move one forward/backwards between the things for that

[void aspen]

Id probably just eyeball it with hue

[marsh reef]

you can see the kinda way i put the shading and just go off that

oh yea how do you like, grab all of one color?

[void aspen]

All of one?

[toxic topaz]

Wym?

[void aspen]

You can do select by color in Select tab

[toxic topaz]

You can press alt to quick select a color

[void aspen]

Oh or this

[marsh reef]

like, so if you press s 4x in paint then it selects them

look

[toxic topaz]

Oh you meant like that

Go to like… view and the color select I think

[void aspen]

Either that or ctrl h

[void aspen]

That's select by color in Select

Usually

[marsh reef]

it's w

👍 epic tyty

[void aspen]

Nvm it's for ms excel

[heady cliff]

Hello, im making a simple replace portraits/sprites mod and I was wondering if there was an example JSON to go off of for simply replacing NPC sprites/portraits

[void aspen]

Basic load will do

One sec

[strong kite]

Isn't there a way to make an NPC move in an event without them actually turning?

[buoyant moon]

positionOffset?

[marsh reef]

wb like this

🤔

[toxic topaz]

Ooooh that looks even better

[marsh reef]

here's this then 🙂‍↕️ I gotta go make chicken, lmk if you make any progress, i believe in you bro

[void aspen]

"Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
  {
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "Ingame path to the texture here",
    "FromFile": "Path to your asset in the mod folder"
  }
 ] 
}

I suppose you already have your content json ready

[strong kite]

Maybe? I've seen that mentioned in a couple places but looking into it myself it doesn't really seem right?

[void aspen]

Targets will be like "Portraits/Abigail" and FromFile is "assets/Abigail.png"

Where assets is a folder with your own textures inside a mod folder

[toxic topaz]

thank you bro

[marsh reef]

😭 forgot to take the chicken out of the freezer the other day so.. no chicken

[hard fern]

😔

[craggy goblet]

No chikin!? Just what have you done 😔 /jk

[marsh reef]

I knowwww 😫 /srs

[toxic topaz]

bruhhhhhhhh do you have a backup plan?

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ just leftovers

[toxic topaz]

you should make a dessert too

[marsh reef]

😅 lowkey allergic to too much for that

[toxic topaz]

@marsh reef btw do you use your mouse to draw? or like one of those fancy tablets

[marsh reef]

mouse yea

and size 5 pencil :3

and lasso to shape originally

[void aspen]

Ase is fairly okay with mouse

[toxic topaz]

I see i see

[void aspen]

It also supports velocity and pressure detection

To alter the stroke size and color

[marsh reef]

Didn’t know my mouse had that

[void aspen]

Mouse in Ase only works with velocity detection

Pressure is for tablets

[toxic topaz]

im so stumped how to continue off of this...

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ I see, i think me and yumy both just mouse lowkey

[marsh reef]

coverup all the current sand in the second brightest color

[toxic topaz]

this one?

yea

[marsh reef]

yes? maybe?

[toxic topaz]

yea i think

i mean i kinda expanded...

just looks like a tan blob tho

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ you need to cover all the sand texture with the color so you can add highlights to decide where the other mounds will be, and shade dark behind it

[void aspen]

Probably needs some texture

I think I'll actually make a pixel background generator to test something

[twin tulip]

I tried to trigger the event using debug seenevent 908078, but it doesn't work. 😥

[toxic topaz]

all covered

the darkest color kinda reminds me of that super long canyon in botw

[marsh reef]

BRO im so insane at botw geoguesser

holy cow

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ add another dune in the back left

im highkey gonna play a round of geoguessr for botw

[toxic topaz]

my brain literally cant comprehend how to replicate the dunes 😭 just churning out hot crap on the page

[marsh reef]

lemme see bro

[toxic topaz]

are you sure its really bad

[marsh reef]

indeed

bro

[toxic topaz]

i knowwww 😭

[marsh reef]

one, that's not bad at all, two, dont limit it to that harsh line, the desert dont die out like that

if you imagine rotating the dark and light clockwise about 45 degrees, you've got a good dune, just needs more of the shading colors

[toxic topaz]

its meant to be the horizon... idk, maybe that could be like a fade point where stuff gets less and less detailed because its gets further away

[marsh reef]

i mean yea horizon but you'd need it to be a much much longer distance for it to be that flat

like 🤔

[toxic topaz]

bruh, why cant that just hop onto my my page

[marsh reef]

🤣 frrr

[toxic topaz]

hmmmm,so the lightest point is meant to be where it gets the absolute most sunlight and the second brightest would be like the off color of that, then the immediate darker would be like the other side of the dune

[marsh reef]

yes, the lighting isnt exactly a sunset so its like, the shading creeps a little around the top, then the bottom dark shade is the full shade from the dune, between the dunes, of which you need to jump out of instead of easing bc its a harsh shadow line or atleast should be

[marsh reef]

im so washed

[toxic topaz]

i mean... idk

[strong kite]

Question.. how's this look?

[steep viper]

is there a reference for what each movie is/what it says?

[toxic topaz]

it looks pretty good i think

[strong kite]

Problematically the event ends with you at your door rather than bed.. so I might just have the event continue into you waking up elsewhere in the world and end it with a warp

Or I might just not care about it that also works

admittedly I enjoy that idea

[marsh reef]

chat how do i select colors and have it add to the pallet

my pallet has gone helpless

palette

[toxic topaz]

i think you click that

dude idk how the hell CA did that forest panorama, must have taken him weeks

[marsh reef]

bro yumy this a hard vantage point 🤣

idk bro

the darkest is definitely too dark for this angle, but

[toxic topaz]

idk how you do it

[worthy plover]

how do I add mods to my game?

[toxic topaz]

i think theres a command for that?

!smapi

[ocean sail]

SMAPI is the mod loader for Stardew Valley. It loads mods into the game, provides APIs for mods to use, intercepts errors, and backs up your save files automatically.

See the player's guide to using mods for more info.

To use this command, type !smapi.

[toxic topaz]

ooh

[marsh reef]

yea that basically

[marsh reef]

so any mods you download, you extract em into the mods folder, along with all mods they say are requirements

then you need to pay attention to the log incase you forgot some

[marsh reef]

idk it looks mid

[toxic topaz]

watttt

i mean dunes are kinda weird... idk how to describe it

[marsh reef]

yea

doesnt have the whole background fixed, but

[toxic topaz]

i wonder if id just like...idk

idk what to do with the horizon

or that top area

[marsh reef]

okay but actually, with this angle and distance, there wont be a horizon

it's way too downward of an angle

[toxic topaz]

lemme test that in game rq

[dire kestrel]

!gs & see #modded-stardew or #1272025932932055121 for further chat, this channel is for devs

[ocean sail]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

To use this command, type !gs.

[marsh reef]

no i mean perspective wise

[toxic topaz]

oh, really?

damn

[marsh reef]

yea

the angle on the pyramid, its like waaaay down, bc stardew cliff, so, the cliff is a gargantuan drop, straight up gorudo highlands to sea level,

[worthy plover]

thanks

[toxic topaz]

damnnn

[marsh reef]

yea its like looking straight from the top down to the middle of this ss

[toxic topaz]

yea exactly

[rich cliff]

Y'all wan hear my mod idea that I hope is simple for a first mod so I can become a cheeto? :P. I'd also like to know if It's doable and how I could achieve making this mod.

[marsh reef]

you'd lowkey need a world as rounded as animal crossing

[marsh reef]

chat, gimme 15 mins

[toxic topaz]

bruh, i didnt think it would be that downwards of an angle

why couldnt the lord bless me with an artistic brain im only good with stuff when its either yes or no

well like, you can have a definitive answer

i wonder if theres a way to turn off butterflies...

i dont think they would like being in a sandstorm too much

ooh, maybe i can replace them with a tumbleweed somehow

[marsh reef]

🤣 or just make em really really fast so it's like they're flying off screen in the wind

[toxic topaz]

LOL

lemme try to find them in the unpacked files

there are stick bug enemies in the game? and a truffle mimic?

ive never seen these before

[brittle pasture]

stick bugs are hard mode mines, truffle crab is 1.6 addition

[marsh reef]

ive gotta remember how to wind bomb now

[toxic topaz]

ooh im so good at windbombing

i can chain them infinitely

[marsh reef]

dude i used to be quite good but i havent touched the game in years

[toxic topaz]

its way easier to do on an emulator lol

[stoic chasm]

(ㅠ﹏ㅠ) Hellloo. I require assistance. I managed to (finally) get the exterior of my house to work, but I can't get the interior to load for some reason- I'm incredibly confused and I cannot read logs for the life of me- https://smapi.io/log/da62c61419494e189fd28167e1c188ff

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26100.0), with 22 C# mods and 8 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[eager tree]

please do tell us

[rich cliff]

Yay!

I wanna make a mod that gives a menu of all the npcs installed in the game with the portraits they have toggled or equipped. There can be a specific key bind to show it as you are in a loaded save. I could also make it so you can search for a specific npc using a search bar. My idea basically just gives a scroll menu of the npcs installed so you don't have to find the npcs to see what portrait is equiped on them

[eager tree]

that's actually a really cool idea. seems to go into C# territory though, and I'm afraid I understand little of it to tell you if it's doable or not

but if you do post it, i would love to play with it

[marsh reef]

i believe seems that you're calling on it without properly loading it, you have to load it in general then also into the locations, example

[stoic chasm]

Oooh okay. Thank you! I'll try that out

[rich cliff]

i'm sure I can learn it quick given I learn everything else quick.. I think

[marsh reef]

😭 @toxic topaz why's it always snowing up here

[toxic topaz]

cuz its high up of course

[latent mauve]

if it helps, I have these scraggly looking cliffs at the bottom of my Gerudo Town map overlooking the city

[marsh reef]

GERUDO?? VAS?

[toxic topaz]

damn that looks good

[marsh reef]

cant see anything

[toxic topaz]

let me check for you

in my emulator it gets rid of fog

[marsh reef]

ah

[latent mauve]

part of this monstrosity of a mod I've been working on for, oof, years now: https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1272745624311300178

[toxic topaz]

i can stream for you if you want, should only take a sec

[marsh reef]

sure

ive forgotten what my emu was called bro 😭

[toxic topaz]

oh, ill just call you, cant stream in there

[toxic topaz]

god i want to play stardew so bad, but i cant because my mod isnt done 😭

so all i can do is stare at my half of my shitty artwork and think of how to do the rest

[calm nebula]

You can play the game while your mod isnt finished

[umbral monolith]

hihi. is this where i ask abt making mods stuff? :3

[calm nebula]

Sure!

[toxic topaz]

that would be blasphemous...

id have too much fun and never get anything done

[void aspen]

Having fun is what makes modding cool

[calm nebula]

The point is to have fun if you're not having fun what's the point

[umbral monolith]

:D. okayyy!! Im making a SDV bachelor, but idk where to start in terms of modding his routine / heart events and other stuff </3 like do i need to install something first to start?

[calm nebula]

Npc

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[hard fern]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[hard fern]

fuck

[umbral monolith]

THANK YOUUu 🙏

he will be like the best thing ive ever created... maybe.

[strong kite]

Man this next Event is coming along surprisingly smoothly

[calm nebula]

Button when is the next server wide modjam

[uncut viper]

Non-determinable 😌

[strong kite]

I may have spoken too soon

I don't think I can physically layer these correctly. The sprite is on layer 1, which makes it layer OVER emotes, but if it's on layer 0 then it renders UNDER/behind the counter...

It's unfortunate but I can work around it

[urban patrol]

are you using addObject?

[strong kite]

Yes

[urban patrol]

blueberry sent the number in here before let me see if i can find it

[strong kite]

Here is an example with them set to layer 0 for AddObject

[urban patrol]

here

although that was for TAS not addObject

[heady cliff]

Sorry, like this for multiple entries? ```json
{
"Format": "2.8.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Leah_Beach.png",
"FromFile": "assets/Characters/Leah_Beach.png"
}
],
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Leah_Winter.png",
"FromFile": "assets/Characters/Leah_Winter.png"
}
]
}

[urban patrol]

all patches must go inside the changes block

{
    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Characters/Leah_Beach",
            "FromFile": "assets/Characters/Leah_Beach.png"
        },
        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Characters/Leah_Winter",
            "FromFile": "assets/Characters/Leah_Winter.png"
        }
    ]
    //...
}

[heady cliff]

oh okay. Thanks

[lucid iron]

You don't need the png in the Target

[urban patrol]

that too

[lucid iron]

The Target is the asset name which is actually just arbitrary string mostly

But vanilla ones follow file structure of Content

No extensions

[heady cliff]

How does it know that? Leah_Beach could be character sprite or portrait

Its the same filename

[lucid iron]

Nah the portrait is at Portraits/Leah_Beach iirc

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[lucid iron]

Did u do this yet

[strong kite]

wait but does that actually let emotes appear over them?

[heady cliff]

Yes I unpacked that and then did the edit and now I want to replace the thing with this edit

[urban patrol]

idk what draw layer emotes are on, you'll have to experiment

or ask an expert lol

[lucid iron]

Yeah u can see that portrait and sprites r different assets then

[strong kite]

I think I might just try and just build around it

It's almost 11PM and I'm sure experimenting like that is gonna just make me frustrated

[heady cliff]

Well then that didnt answer my question. Target is just a string as far as im concerned

[lucid iron]

To be clear no extensions on the Target only you do need the actual relative file path for FromFile

[tiny zealot]

yes, Target is just a string

[heady cliff]

What heuristics is the game doing to determine that that image is replacing a character sprite?

[urban patrol]

up to you! i often test my events like 10-50 times each because i don't mind the "change one thing, try it again, repeat" strategy

[heady cliff]

If I dont specify Target

[urban patrol]

every patch has to have a target

[lucid iron]

I didn't say anything about removing the entire target

Just no .png extension

[tiny zealot]

no heuristics. Target is required, and Portraits/<npcname> is the name of the default portrait assets

[heady cliff]

Oh, no file extension

[strong kite]

Question is.. do I have the player stay one tile downward or have the items floating?
I kinda like the items floating since it's a dream lol

[lucid iron]

I realized now why this was ambiguous oops

[heady cliff]

fair enough

[toxic topaz]

you're righttttt, but im having a ton of fun modding the game too

its just the battle of easy fun vs hard fun

the easy fun is too indulgent for me when i want to get the hard stuff done 😭

ooh @marsh reef that cactus you added is actually amazing

it helps so much with the scale i feel

[heady cliff]

does the name of the mod JSON need to be anything specific or does SMAPI just sorta see the file there and go yep lets parse that thing

filename i mean

mod.json

[tiny zealot]

content patcher in particular looks at content.json

[uncut viper]

SMAPI requires manifest.json

[tiny zealot]

you can "Action": "Include" other files from content.json, and CP will look at those as you request

(and you can include other files from those, and so on)

[toxic topaz]

hmm... this is something that requires a bit of thought for that ladder its meant to be the way to "Decend" from the cliff down into the sandstorm below. But im struggling to come up with a way to actually like do that. since i cant just have a ladder hang down from the sky...

in the sandstorm map it would be at that square at the bottom

[heady cliff]

hmm, it wants an EntryDll definition?

i mean i could figure out how to compile a stub DLL just to shut up SMAPI

[toxic topaz]

dll is for C# mods

[tiny zealot]

your mod's manifest must have exactly one of EntryDll (SMAPI mods, i.e. C#) or ContentPackFor (content packs, e.g. for content patcher)

[toxic topaz]

you need something like this (this is tuned for my mod's content pack)

and any dependencies you have would go below it

[marsh reef]

eyyyyy nice

[heady cliff]

I guess it iterates over this sees the unique IDs and then Content patcher gets the list/array of the unique IDs that told it it needs that mod so content patcher takes it from there

[lucid iron]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid iron]

The mods with entrydll is the C# mods and the ones with contentpackfor are data mods that one of those entrydll things will manage