making-mods-general

[faint ingot]

OK, I'm not sure what I'm using yet! but it built succesfully after commenting out that import and a couple of functions that I hopefully won't need.

[round dock]

From my experience, most of the translators I've worked with have atleast read a bit with dialogue commands. In case of any type of confusion, I just ask them not to touch the keys and dialogue commands I've set up

[brittle pasture]

(im ngl i dont even know what that import does because i cannot find the file it references)

[marsh reef]

i got it

[whole prism]

hey quick question, my mod got a "Some manually verified files", I dont believe those stamps leave untl you make a new version?

How can I fix that?

do I just make a new version and upload and hope for the best

[barren tapir]

Fixed it! Turns out it was an issue with calls to Monitor. Now the code not only runs, but does what its supposed to do!

[lucid iron]

I wouldn't worry about it tbh

[whole prism]

ive looked, a lot of other mods updated 2-3 years ago hjave not gotten that tag removed

sadly

so it seems permanent until i update again

[lucid iron]

It just means the virus scan said it's no good but someone looked at it and went dw it's fine

[whole prism]

even though its pure JSON? oof

and ok

yeah ima reupload with an extra quest and call it 1.1.1 i guess

cause when i had that in the past, a lot of people didnt want to touch it cause they were cautious

so ima fix it rq

OH YEAH

YAY THEY FIXE DIT

[calm nebula]

Did you use a rar or zip?

[whole prism]

TY NEXUS I WAS GONNA CRY

[whole prism]

pure zip file

"Send to -> Zip" not even WinRar or anything

since Winrar isnt allowed i believe? last time i tried they didnt allow it

[lucid iron]

rar has a high chance of tripping the scan yes

I never had anyone complain to me due to sus files tho

Usually it's their anti virus saying it's sus, not the nexus icon

[barren tapir]

Does anyone know what method one would need to patch to change the quality of fish caught?

[brittle pasture]

something on FishingRod probably

[nova barn]

I have a question as a person new to modding

there's one i want to add from nexus to my smapi called "Seasonal Outfits - Slightly Cuter Aesthetic"

my concern is like.. in the "mods requiring this file" which ones do I actually need because a lot of them I am not interested in ;-;

[barren tapir]

Ahh, I was looking in the fishing minigame

[brittle pasture]

Mods Requiring This File = mods that need SCA to function

not mods that SCA needs to function

that'd be the section above

[barren tapir]

I'll look through the fishing rod class once I'm finished testing my current script

[brittle pasture]

you can ignore that section unless you're interested in other seasonal portrait mods to pair with SCA

[nova barn]

so if i just do the like. base one the portraits and their sprites will be what theyre advertised as? like the one says its needed or requirement

[brittle pasture]

yes

(also for future reference #modded-stardew is the best channel for general modding-related questions)

[nova barn]

if im doin it i do want the portraits to match but idk how much of it is their own work and what is other ppls stuff

sorry that these are very dumb questions i just want to be accurate so i dont have to ask questions latewr

[brittle pasture]

(the people there definitely knows better)

[round dock]

Head over at #modded-stardew we can help you out there (this channel is for mod making instead)

[toxic topaz]

i hate to keep asking but im so confused whats wrong with my event where my junimo doesnt have an animation in the first half...

ill send my script too

[strong kite]

Isn't there an animation for the farmer where they jump up in surprise? I know Pierre has something like that and I feel like the farmer does too but I just can't think of where that would be

[round dock]

Yes (?)

Did you mean jump farmer or

[strong kite]

Maybe?

[round dock]

Or did you mean a more exaggerated jump?

[strong kite]

I think both would be good to look at

[autumn tide]

you can add numbers to dictate how far the actor jumps iirc

[round dock]

Maybe you could try the jump <actor> [intensity] command and just tweak the intensity

By way of reference, 4 is good if you're trying to convey that they jumped in surprise, you can increase that according to your liking tho

[strong kite]

I'll try it with its default of 8 and see how that looks

Ftr I mean the kind of surprise like you just saw the creature from your nightmares in real life

just for reference

[round dock]

Like this?

[barren tapir]

I've officially made pseudo-code for (hopefully) all of the required harmony patches for the mod I'm working on! Currently they are as follows:

• A method to set the minimum quality of harvested non-forage crops [Finished and working]
• A method to set the minimum quality of fruit trees [Not Written Yet]
• A method to set the minimum quality of caught fish [Not Written Yet]
• A method to change the quantity of items caught by a crab pot [Finished and working]
• A method to give animals a chance not to eat that day [Not Written Yet]

TBH, this mod has been going a lot smoother than I thought it would. Granted, I'm sure trying to figure out ExtendedMastery(?) compatibility will be a pain, alongside trying to create a custom shopping menu (granted that'd be for a future version)

[strong kite]

Yup!

OOPS- That's not right!

lesson learned, use advancedMove

Right now I'm getting the basics scripted out, then I plan to go back through and spice it up with animations and such

[autumn tide]

the npcs yearn the for the all-encompassing embrace of the void

[strong kite]

heheh well there's something real funny about that

Considering this cutscene is essentially supposed to unlock a rift into the void

[autumn tide]

they extra yearn for the void

[strong kite]

Alright time to figure out advancedMove's parameters

[toxic topaz]

mine just dont want to get animated properly

[autumn tide]

good luck

[whole prism]

Finally

fully documented my new quests thats been in teh works for weeks

for aquatic sea fish 1.3

[strong kite]

ah rats not the Wizard too-

[toxic topaz]

the only thing i can think of is that the sprite doesnt like going up... so it doesnt play the animation

[urban patrol]

try getting rid of the animation of the junimo

that’s probably overriding the walk cycle

[toxic topaz]

sure

[toxic topaz]

no, no change

[urban patrol]

hmmm

what does the junimo spritesheet look like? i’m on mobile

[toxic topaz]

i mean i reduced it to only this

since thats all i need

[urban patrol]

and you loaded that to RedJunimo?

[toxic topaz]

yes

the junimo is red in game, so i know its working

and the running animation is working after it drops the bundle

but not before

[marsh reef]

Copy paste it to be a 4x4 no? Bc it’d be tryna read off the image I think

[toxic topaz]

i have the video here

[toxic topaz]

4x4?

ill try it

[marsh reef]

Yea four rows of the same thing

[urban patrol]

couldn’t hurt to try

[strong kite]

im getting far enough into developing my cutscene that troubleshooting it is getting longer and longer cuz i gotta sit through the whole cutscene 😭

[urban patrol]

you can use event tester*

*but watch out

[marsh reef]

Write out the whole thing see if it works

[strong kite]

Ye that's what I'm doing.. mostly

[round dock]

(hang in there! the feeling of accomplishment feels good once everything is sorted out)

[marsh reef]

Why do ppl talk in parentheses

[urban patrol]

that’s the real reason i mod lol

[toxic topaz]

when i tried this the first time, the junimo wasnt even visible until it placed the package, then it cut out from indice 1 and 3 and went invisible on 0 and 2

[marsh reef]

Yes that’s good then

[toxic topaz]

now im trying with the full sheet of just copy and pasted down

[marsh reef]

Copy paste the guy on all of them

Yes

[toxic topaz]

omg its working

[marsh reef]

Nice

[toxic topaz]

it looks so good now omg thank you so much

[marsh reef]

Always

[round dock]

I usually talk in parenthesis to soften my statements. 🙂

[toxic topaz]

wow, now that its all complete i feel like this works really well ngl good use for the "explosive bundle"

[round dock]

Or if I’m adding a side note, usage varies among people

[marsh reef]

Peculiar

[iron ridge]

not that unusual

[strong kite]

The more I have to debug this event the less ambitious the other event I was thinking of is gonna be

[lament furnace]

Any way to test a spritesheet? I've been having trouble with alignment, and I can't force the pet which I'm changing the sprites to make the pose I want to test

[round dock]

Not really, it’s more usual in these spaces

[iron ridge]

depends on what spritesheet

npcs can be with https://sprites.pillow.rocks/

[lament furnace]

pet swap

[marsh reef]

I feel like it makes more sense to just chime in politely rather than to be speaking in a must have been the wind manner but tbf it’s my first time being in anything like this

[strong kite]

Why do the wizard be gettin stuck here 😭
/advancedMove farmer false -1 0 0 -14/viewport 8 8 false true/waitForAllStationary/faceDirection farmer left/jump farmer 8/emote farmer 16 true/pause 100/faceDirection Darkrai up/faceDirection Wizard up/emote Wizard 8 true/advancedMove Wizard false 0 -12 -1 0/waitForAllStationary/emote Wizard 16 true/pause 100/emote farmer 28/
He gets into position, but just doesn't end the walking animation

[marsh reef]

Running into big boy two wide man maybe?

[toxic topaz]

maybe try this? uhhh, that should stop it i think

you might be able to do stopAnimation aswell?

[modest dagger]

wow who'd do that (i do that)

[strong kite]

that's possible.. probably didn't happen to the farmer cuz they move into that column way before being beside Darkrai, whereas the Wizard's last movement is moving towards Darkrai

[round dock]

Hm, I see what you mean that’s a fair assessment but people speaking in parentheses to convey a certain tone or emphasize a certain message is pretty common around here

[strong kite]

Will try this

man this aint even the ambitous part of this event 😭

Okay the Wizard stopped moving IMMEDIATELY. I guess I should pause before stopAdvancedMoves?

but also even though he stopped moving, the event still ground to a halt there..

[urban patrol]

put a facing direction and a pause into the advanced move

advancedMove Wizard false 0 -12 -1 0 3 50

stop advanced moves is more for making NPCs who are looping stop their movements

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ idk just a thought very possibly just not it though :3

[strong kite]

I'll give it a shot

[marsh reef]

I see

[strong kite]

Yayyyy this worked!

Now I can script out more of the scene!

[whole prism]

why is that pokemon there..i loved them i forgot their name its been 5+ years!!!!!

ITS SO CUTE OMGGGG

WHATS THE MODDDDD

!!!!

Darkai? smth

i forgot

[strong kite]

Darkrai

It's gonna be in my mod that I'm in the process of updating

hm.. I just realized, I wanted it to have in the cutscene the rift appear. I have it made and in a tilesheet but I dont actually know how to have the event use that. I wanted to do it like how the game makes the magic book appear in the magic ink cutscene but idk if that's gonna work

How would I do that?

I guess I'll take a little break for the moment while I wait for more people to be here lol

[past loom]

hi! So I just uploaded my first mod, very excited about that, but there should be an option to get the update key somewhere, right? Where would I find that on nexus? I thought it would be somewhere while I worked on the draft, but I didn't see it anywhere

[verbal glacier]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Update_checks

Just click the link of your mod and you'll see the nexus update key at the end

[past loom]

oooh thank you!

[eager tree]

when you're posting a new mod, you can first save it as a draft, then click on the draft's mod page
it will be the last numbers of the page's URL

so you don't need to post it without the updated manifest

[past loom]

yeah I realised that too late, it's uploaded already :'D It's fine though, I'll just add it during the next update

[urban patrol]

if you don't have the update key, people who already downloaded it won't be notified of the next update

so i would add it asap

[soft granite]

I just finished and uploaded a portrait and sprite mod to Nexus Mods. How do I get the Mod Author role to post here?

[urban patrol]

make an account on the official wiki and wait for further instructions from @outer glacier

[uncut viper]

(In addition to this, unless it was only uploaded like, 2 minutes ago, I would also bump the version number again for adding the update key, so that Nexus also shows that the mod has been updated for people who already downloaded it)

[past loom]

oh, that's good to know! I'll add it right now then, thanks guys <3

[uncut viper]

If it was only uploaded like 2 minutes ago I would personally be rushing to add it before people downloaded it lol

[whole prism]

Hey there, I got a question.

My upcoming update for Aquatic Sea Fish is releasing quests for 4 mods, Tilly, SVE, Ridgeside, and East Scarp. It works flawlessly, however, there is something I just remembered.

If a user uninstalls one of the mods, and an active quest (via my mod) is going, will the game remove the quest since the NPC is now null? Or, do I make a JSON that auto detects if one of the quests are active, and if the mod isn't installed, and deletes it from the player?

[uncut viper]

(Also tbc about this Bouncer won't message you after you made an account, you have to message Bouncer yourself to request the role)

[urban patrol]

oh my bad i thought pinging bouncer in here was equally acceptable

[soft granite]

Thanks! I read through the pinned messages on the "mod-showcase" channel and it was still a little unclear

[uncut viper]

The quest will not be removed automatically

[strong kite]

Actually me rn (I still dont know how to add a TileSheet sprite to an event 😭 )

[urban patrol]

temporary animated sprite

[uncut viper]

Whether the error it'd cause would be disastrous or harmless, I'm not sure

So I would probably make a repeatable (i.e. MarkActionApplied false) trigger action that removes the quest in that case

[mortal blade]

Does IchorTower frequent this channel?

[uncut viper]

Depends on your definition of frequent

Not difficult to check though, his username is just ichortower

[mortal blade]

Danke

[toxic topaz]

hmmmm.... is this sufficiently good for a blown open path?

[whole prism]

Good to know. Also, I was thinking of making a JSON to auto-delete the quests if not installed. However, if deleted, can the user retrieve the quest again? Or is it locked?

I would delete both the letter, and the quest, when uninstalled, that way my trigger action can start again, but, I don't know if that's all I would need to do

[whole prism]

A very conveniently shaped stairs

but YES

[urban patrol]

i like it!

[whole prism]

thats so cool

i love it

[uncut viper]

A quest can be repeated as many times as someone wants to run some AddQuest action for it

[toxic topaz]

the bundle is magical, so of course it has stair making properties haha

[uncut viper]

Hell you might even be able to have multiple of the same quest at once

[whole prism]

I'm saying that if the average user uninstalls a mod with a quest running, it disappears, and they reinstall on the same save file, can they still get the quest back again?

Without using console commands

All my trigger action checks for is just a letter, which I can delete

[uncut viper]

It won't be given back to them automatically

[whole prism]

but, would the game allow that?

[uncut viper]

Once its removed, its gone. If they slept and thus saved, it's gone

[whole prism]

If they followed the same steps again is what im saying

[whole prism]

I mean, starting the quest all over again

[uncut viper]

Then yeah, if you have some way to run the AddQuest action or send a letter with the quest in it again, theyll get it

[whole prism]

Awesome, thanks!

Now, uh- how do I go about checking if a quest is active, and how to delete a letter

[uncut viper]

Oh yeah, there's no GSQ for active quests until 1.6.16. I guess use the {{HasActiveQuest}} token in your GSQ condition

"Condition": "{{HasActiveQuest}}" will be valid if they have the quest, invalid if they dont

assuming you put a quest ID into that token

HasActiveQuest |contains=whatever

[whole prism]

This is how the quest looks:

ASF_Compat_RSV_QuestYsabelleShellDesign

for instance

[uncut viper]

Then you would do {{HasActiveQuest |contains=ASF_Compat_RSV_QuestYsabelleShellDesign}}

[whole prism]

ahh, tyy!!!

[void aspen]

hii lucy hi button

[buoyant moon]

Spending my afternoon digging into the idea of love languages and figuring out what they are for the characters and how things would play out in a relationship between them as a result
e.g. Leah is oriented toward gift-giving for expressing affection, but does she prefer receiving quality time or acts of service?

[strong kite]

Im gonna assume this'll work even if the sprite isn't animated?

[urban patrol]

yep

[strong kite]

Awesome!

[urban patrol]

you define the frames and the frame length so

[strong kite]

This probably wont work first try but once I've written out the code I'll figure it out

[urban patrol]

mine never do lol

20 arguments means a high likelihood of something being off

[lucid iron]

maybe u gotta make urself spreadsheet

to fill in the blanks

[urban patrol]

keep in mind that scale is multiplicative not additive (so should be 1 unless you want to shrink/grow it)

[mortal blade]

Button: Random off topic: How are we gonna survive until autumn 2027?

[round dock]

Gleaning from her 14H, it kind of feels like it’s quality time. You can ask ideas from #modded-stardew fs tho

[buoyant moon]

yeah that was more just an example of what I'm thinking about

[void aspen]

is there a way to make LS/Cursors tilesheet have x2 resolution?
I wanna do some icons but they won't fit into 16px tiles

[buoyant moon]

not the weirdest niche deep dive I've done but it's up there

[round dock]

All of their love languages are gift-giving /lh i didn’t build all of those crabpots for nothin

[nova gale]

does anyone know if it's possible to make a mini-fridge varient that only accepts specific items?

(I want to make an alchemy cabinet mini-fridge item that just accepts the reagents from my mod, but since the potions are cooking recipes, I'd like it to be a mini-fridge so they automatically pull when crafting potions)

[lucid iron]

why cant i put my mandrakes next to my cabbage?

[nova gale]

sad sad panda

[uncut viper]

Highly recommend against subclassing though if you can at all avoid it, since then you need to register with SpaceCore's serializer to not explode saves

[nova gale]

yeah, I had to do that with my old mod on 1.4 and it caused no end of trouble for serializing and deserializing to the save

and broke hard when 1.5 came out 😛

(to the point I remade dwarvish into dwarven expansion and stripped all c# components in favor of putting those parts in another mod)

[strong kite]

That's the part I got wrong?? I was just off by 1 in which value I was on?

[lucid iron]

if u wanna do the C#

you can patch Chest.ShowMenu()

[nova gale]

I could do that as an add-on mod or part of my Darkest Depths mod I suppose

since Darkest Depths is already basically all C# all the time 😛

[mortal blade]

I'd think that overriding .addItem(...) would also automatically integrate it with "Automation" mod

[lucid iron]

supply your own InventoryMenu.highlightAllItems and grabItemFromInventory callbacks

[toxic topaz]

huh this is a problem.... and idk why its happening. shouldnt the overlay get rid of anything that isnt in the overlay within the defined area?

[uncut viper]

addItem does not return null if the item isn't allowed. addItem (and other similar functions for other types of inventories) return Items because they need to if the container can fit some of a stack but not the entire stack of items.

[void aspen]

overlay works a bit silly, itd be better if you have a wall initially and then replace the rectangle with the entrance
or vice versa

[mortal blade]

Thank you for clarification, Button.

I was just reading decompiled source code. 😄

[uncut viper]

(And by "returns Items" i mean "returns Item?s even if the code doesnt say it bc it returns null if the chest can fit everything in it, thus your cursor should now be holding "null" instead of holding the items you just added)

Basically it just returns leftovers, or nothing if there are no leftovers.

[nova gale]

interesting, so if I don't want it to add something I'd return all of the things yout ried to add?

[uncut viper]

I would do what chu suggested

[nova gale]

that's an interesting implementation but /shrug aight

[uncut viper]

No I was specifically trying to say that addITem is not the way to go about it

Because it does not whatsoever control what is or isnt allowed

[nova gale]

oh gotcha

[strong kite]

Alright just as I suspected, I need to figure out how to actually load this texture into the game..

[uncut viper]

Unless you intentionally misuse it which may potentially break things

[nova gale]

instead use the grabItemFromInventory and highlightAllItems

[nova gale]

you load it with a Load action

{
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/DwarvenExpansion/Tools/DwarvenPickaxe",
            "FromFile": "assets/Tools/DwarvenPickaxe/texture.png"
        },   
``` like that

the FromFile being relative to your mod root to the actual file, the Target being where it is in memory to be referenced by the rest of your mod

[strong kite]

            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "TntDove.PBB/objects, TntDove.PBB/crops, TntDove.PBB/giantcrops, TntDove.PBB/rift",
            "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
        },```
Like this? rift is the asset I'm looking for, the other 3 have worked with this for 2 years lol

And they're all in the same folder

[nova gale]

someone else may have to speak to the bulk-loading part, I've never done that

I load is as part of the json file so that my configs can include or not include the entire thing

[strong kite]

Alright, I'll do that then

[nova gale]

(so basically the texture load, event, dialog changes, item/tool changes, etc are all in one file and my config includes or excludes the entire file in my case)

[strong kite]

I should probably have a json for the Rift anyway

[nova gale]

so I never mass-load textures

I just load the whole spritesheet or not

[strong kite]

So in my case for the target would I use TileSheets/rift? if I got it right at least. Based on vanilla game (or another mod)'s files?

[nova gale]

I always load my tilesheets under Mods/<modname> personally just so I don't conflict by mistake, but /shrug

not sure if it's actually required honestly

I also try to make it feasible to override my textures by other mods so folks can do retextures

[lucid iron]

You want your mod id there

Otherwise it doesn't matter too much

[nova gale]

since I suck at art and i want others who don't suck at art to override my assets when they get fed up with my ugly vanilla mashups

[lucid iron]

Some parts of game expect some kinda prefix though

[faint ingot]

Yay I was able to create a token in c# and pass it to my mod thank you @lucid iron !

[lucid iron]

For example tilesheets r Maps/blah

[lucid iron]

Did u confuse me with someone

I'm glad it worked but i have no memory of this

[faint ingot]

lol I did I meant @brittle pasture but you're super helpful too!

[strong kite]

honestly my brain is not comprehending what I need to write rn

[nova gale]

if I were you I would do Target": "Mods/TantDove.PBB/objects" personally

for the objects spritesheet

[strong kite]

Really? Even though that works just fine with what I've got?

[nova gale]

(or Mods/{{ModId}}/objects most likely since thats probably your modid and it makes it easier to repeat in future mods)

[lucid iron]

Yeah it's best practices

[nova gale]

again, 10s of thousands of mods, the more folks follow the standard conventions, the lower the likelyhood of conflict

[strong kite]

Sorry i'm gonna have to put a pin in that for now cuz that's not relevant to what I'm tryna do right now and my brain is failing enough as it is 😭

I may have figured it out but I'll have to actually get into game to see

    "Changes": [
    {
        "Action": "Load",
        "Target": "TileSheets/{{ModId}}_Rift",
        "FromFile": "assets/Rift.png"
        }
    ]
}```
That's how I've got it in its own file, I just followed what I did for my character portraits and sprite which worked for those

For reference: These work

guess I'll post my assets folder too. None of it's organized into other folders so like if one works I feel like the other should too

[whole prism]

https://smapi.io/json/none/a708352cd7c44862814fcd49c4071183

Would this be right or wrong? Sorry im learning

its very repetitve tho

[urban patrol]

whatever target you loaded it to, put that, not just Rift

for the slashes do \\

[uncut viper]

Those will possibly all be a day late to trigger (I'm not sure). You may want to make them LocationChanged instead of DayStarted. Again though, not sure.
You've put all your stuff in the When conditions, which will work but I suggested putting them in the conditions of your trigger actions themselves. It doesn't make a huge difference but it may affect whether or not the trigger action applies late or not. Easiest way to find out if your setup works is to try it.

[strong kite]

Like this?

[void aspen]

why is there different slashes

does json not care or its something to change

[strong kite]

I don't know man my brain isn't comprehending things

sorry.. Idk why I feel so exhausted with this 😭

[void aspen]

its okay Im as clueless

but I am pretty sure you may need to change \\ to /

[strong kite]

yea I'll give that a shot

[void aspen]

WAIT

you were told by nic to do \\

[strong kite]

Ye, wasn't sure if that meant just in FromFile or for ALL the slashes there

Maybe I'm just sick of sitting through like 40 seconds of cutscene to see if it finally works 😭

[urban patrol]

no, the escaped slash goes in the event

your load was fine

[strong kite]

OH-

Well on the brightside it convinced me to actually organize my damn assets a bit

[urban patrol]

we escape slashes in slash-delimited fields like events to distinguish between “this is part of my texture” and “please proceed to the next event command”

yeah if you’re making a not-small mod i recommend grouping assets like the game does

one tile sheet for crops, one for objects, one for TAS, etc

[strong kite]

Well I'm not planning on there being another character, tho who knows maybe I will make one

I mean especially after all of this

[urban patrol]

in general it’s more performant to load one big spritesheet than a bunch of small ones

not hugely but still

[strong kite]

yee. I've been doing that for tile sheets, but I havent been using subfolders

Um. okay so it finally didn't cut off the event, but that doesn't mean the event isn't still borked 😭

The Wizard walks off into the void and the texture doesn't actually appear at all

shake Darkrai 400/playSound {{ModId}}_DarkraiCry/pause 500/warp Darkrai 1 23 true/temporaryAnimatedSprite TileSheets\\{{ModId}}_Rift 0 0 2 3 0 0 0 5 4 false false 5 0 1 0 0 0 hold_last_frame/screenFlash 1 2/pause 200/emote farmer 16 true/textAboveHead Wizard \" My Books! \"/move Wizard -2 0 0/waitForAllStationary/faceDirection Wizard up/emote Wizard 8/emote Wizard 12

I made the rest of the texture completely black ftr, so even if I have it slightly mispositioned I can at least see if it's appearing at all

[urban patrol]

double check your numbers one by one for the TAS

[whole prism]

Question, if a specific mail/quest is not active, and I try to remove it anyways, will it error? Or not? I was wondering so I can have it detect any of the quests, and do a group delete

[urban patrol]

the issue could be you placed it off screen, or made it have a scale of 0, or it’s underneath the background

i suspect it might be the y layer

your sprite size is 2px by 3px

[strong kite]

ah heck wait a minute I thought the width and height meant how many tiles it took up in game to determine how much it should use from the sheet

[urban patrol]

nah if the wiki specifies pixel area it means it

[strong kite]

I'm really hoping setting up the maps after this will be a lot easier 😭

Cuz Ima need to modify the Wizard's House and add my own map for this plus a teleport between the two

Hm.. still not working even when setting the size to 32 x 48

For context: I'm trying to replace this book shelf here (Bottom left corner is on 5,4)

[urban patrol]

oh i didn’t know this was a map change

are you planning on it being permanent?

if so i’d use changeMapTile instead

[void aspen]

you gotta check the layers this bookshelf tiles on and then be sure you replace those or something

[strong kite]

THAT'S A THING??!

[urban patrol]

yes but with an asterisk

[void aspen]

you can do the thing nic said too

[whole prism]

https://smapi.io/json/none/09746c0abc9e4b6c86aaaf2b568efbab

Not sure if this would run, but sending it by for anyone who might know

[strong kite]

I was thinking I'd just have it be a temp thing and then once the event ended it would trigger the replacement in the map

[urban patrol]

if you're trying to patch the map starting within an event and continuing forever after the event, i would use changeMapTile in combination with a regular map patch

this requires three patches total

[strong kite]

Well I'm already gonna be patching it so might as well

[urban patrol]

1. EditMap, unconditional, put blank tiles on Buildings2 or whatever. these blank tiles must come from the same tilesheet your desired future tiles are on
2. event in which you use changeMapTile to change those blank tiles to your desired tiles
3. EditMap, conditional on having seen the event, in which you patch the map to appear as desired

[uncut viper]

I would assume it'd be fine

[strong kite]

So for this I need to get the map edit figured out first?

[urban patrol]

yeah i'd recommend that

you also don't have to use changeMapTile, you can use changeToTemporaryMap, but your edits to the map won't appear until the next day by default

you can of course increase the update rate but the fastest you can do is OnTimeChange, which is expensive, ESPECIALLY for vanilla assets like Maps/Town or cursors

i don't recommend that though, even though it would be simpler

a compromise could be using an update rate of OnLocationChange instead, and ending the event with a warp out, but again that's still a little bit more expensive than DayStarted (default)

[strong kite]

Alright well.. I've got a copy of Wizard's House file

[strong kite]

I should probably figure out the actual map change before determining how to implement it?

[urban patrol]

yeah, sorry, i was just listing all options and some pros and cons! to start with definitely just work out the final map patch and work backwards from there

make it unconditional for now so that you can see how it looks in game before putting a When on it

[strong kite]

Not sure what that means but how do I load my TileSheet in Tiled?

[urban patrol]

are you using tilesheetinator? if not i highly recommend it

[strong kite]

I guess I'll get it lol

[urban patrol]

!tilesheetinator

[ocean sail]

You can use the Tilesheetinator tiled extension to create Stardew Valley maps that work in-game without having to copy vanilla and modded tilesheets back-and-forth, rename files with a . in front of their name, edit maps only in the unpacked content folder or make symlink workarounds.

See the mod page for full installation and use instructions.

To use this command, type !tilesheetinator.

[strong kite]

oh mf- windows is blocking it from running

[urban patrol]

good old windows

[uncut viper]

You shouldn't be running the file, you add it to Tiled

[urban patrol]

@ me when you've got it set up the page should also have instructions for how to add tilesheet locations, and how to add tilesheets from those locations into your map

[strong kite]

Well that explains why it did nothing

[uncut viper]

Windows is probably blocking it because it is a javascript file so like it is just a buncha code

Similar to it blocking you from running a random .exe it cant verify

[strong kite]

How do I add it to Tiled?

[iron ridge]

See the mod page for full installation and use instructions.

[strong kite]

Right- fair enough

My brain is exhausted after today and it's only 6PM

[whole prism]

quick question

How can u send mail to urself? is it via debug?

for commands

[strong kite]

@urban patrol Alright I've got it set up. Or at least I've got my tilesheet imported into Tiled

[urban patrol]

and you added the tilesheet via tsinator's way, correct?

[strong kite]

Yup!

[lucid iron]

debug action <any trigger action>

[strong kite]

damn this really looks like a nether portal

[lucid iron]

I think there may be dedicated mail command

But i like testing this way since it's the actual action to run

[whole prism]

ty

[urban patrol]

make sure you're not replacing anything that already exists on the map (e.g., overriding Buildings tiles)

for changeMapTile purposes

[strong kite]

Alrighty! That means make a new layer?

[urban patrol]

if needed yes

if there's already a Buildings3 for example, just not in use in that area, you can use that

it MUST be named one of: Back, Buildings, Front, AlwaysFront (with an optional number, positive or negative, appended on)

[strong kite]

Hm.. well there's only 1 "Buildings" that's used there

[urban patrol]

then yeah i'd say make Buildings2

[strong kite]

Alrighty!

[urban patrol]

if you're done, now make an EditMap patch (you can see examples in the CP docs)

[toxic topaz]

looking at the stardew panoramic and knowing i kinda gotta do the same thing but for the desert scares me

[urban patrol]

MMAP

[toxic topaz]

mmap?

[urban patrol]

misc map actions and properties

[toxic topaz]

yea what about it?

[urban patrol]

you can use it to put a panorama in your map

instead of reinventing the wheel

[toxic topaz]

ooh thanks that solves one problem

but i was talking more about drawing it lol

im bad at art and this is so daunting

[ornate trellis]

1. take sdv vanilla panorama
2. get sand tile
3. put sand tile across bottom to hide the lushness
4. edit sky to look warmer(more reddish/orangeish)
5. ????
6. Profit

[marsh reef]

what're you arting?

[whole prism]

WOOOAAAHH IT WORKEED

It got rid of their quests!

TYSMM LEGENDARY BUTTON

[toxic topaz]

im working on the map, but what im doing is making a cliff that overlooks a desert landscape. with a pyramid in the distance, but the pyramid is also center focus. and its also in like a sandstorm or something.

basically a preview of the map that comes up after you descend down from the cliff onward

*im trying to

the panorama will likely be crap lol

[marsh reef]

well, depending on how you do it, the more sky you add to the top (the higher the cliff is then suggested to be) but then the less you actually need to draw, and depending on how you wanna do the sand storm, everything under the haze of the sand doesnt need to particularly look amazing

[strong kite]

@urban patrol Is it just as simple as this?

            "Action": "EditMap",
            "Target": "Maps/WizardHouse",
            "Priority": "Late"
            "FromFile": "assets/Maps/WizardHouse.tmx"
        }```

[marsh reef]

dead by daylight?

[urban patrol]

you don't need a priority, but you do need a FromArea and ToArea

[urban patrol]

no, dead boy detectives, my expansion mod

based on the show

[marsh reef]

oohh okay

[toxic topaz]

true, i can picture how i want the haze to be... and with it i can hide a lot of imperfections

[marsh reef]

yea :D

[toxic topaz]

it might have to be a little taller than this though... (the bottom) because i want it to look maybe like more top downish?

idk

[lucid iron]

Tbh if u dont care about having the panorama move with you then putting all that on Back-1 will work just fine

[toxic topaz]

well the cliff im making will be quite small

like legit just an overlook with a small set of stairs to the side

[lucid iron]

The thing mmap implements is having the bg move relatively to camera

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ imo too many hills for it to be the desert, but like, a fair bit you could easily cover almost completely if you do the storm like BOTW does

[toxic topaz]

oh i was talking about the horizon mostly

[marsh reef]

the sand storm being off in the distance?

[toxic topaz]

uhhh, it would kinda be directly below you. but also a litte far off

so like the perspective

[marsh reef]

🧍‍♂️ it would be much more helpful for being lazy if atleast some of it was rolling past the visible area of the pano

[strong kite]

            "Action": "EditMap",
            "Target": "Maps/WizardHouse",
            "FromFile": "assets/Maps/WizardHouse.tmx"
            "FromArea": { "X": 5, "Y": 2, "Width": 2, "Height": 3 },
            "ToArea": { "X": 5, "Y": 2, "Width": 2, "Height": 3 }
        }``` Like this?

[marsh reef]

bc then like, you could make a little section of map where you're walking around in the sandstorm with partually see through animated tiles on the alwaysfront section

ykyk?

[urban patrol]

yep slightly harder mode is cropping your map to be just that area but that's not necessary for now, just letting you know of the possibility

[strong kite]

Ah, alright. So this should be good to go and ready for the next step?

[toxic topaz]

ill try to scuff it rq hold on lol

... i have no clue how CA did the gradient effect...

[marsh reef]

rough imo but i removed one of the hill as an example

[marsh reef]

wdym

[toxic topaz]

in the sky

[marsh reef]

ohoh

[toxic topaz]

gradient scary

[marsh reef]

depending on what stuff you use

apps

like the one i have has a tool for it

[strong kite]

I am definitely either done for the day or taking a couple hour break once I get this tile replacement thing done

[toxic topaz]

pyramid

[marsh reef]

that i can agree

[whole prism]

illuminati!!

[ornate trellis]

im too lazy for more, but

[toxic topaz]

and that would be a little bit closer to the center, and then just like little dunes across the bottom, and the sun higher up, and a haze starting at the horizon (or becoming super apparent at the horizon) that starts dark and grows lighter

[toxic topaz]

whoa

[ornate trellis]

its a start

[strong kite]

ah shoot

[toxic topaz]

yea it looks good so far i think i have no clue how you did the gradient and other stuff though lol

also whats that thing on the bottom?

[ornate trellis]

i edited the sdv panorama lol

its just a random cliff because the iamge was empty

[toxic topaz]

ohh, the cliff im talking about is the map in tiled that im making atm

[ornate trellis]

you can really do well with jsut taking bits and bobs and and there from the sdv assets tbh. what i did was take the sky of the panorama and slapped some gradient map over it. quickly drew a simply pyramid and just took the sand tiles from the dessert and copy pasted them

[urban patrol]

where is your custom tilesheet located, and where is your map located

they need to either be in the same folder, or you need to load the tilesheet to Maps/whatever

[marsh reef]

:3 @toxic topaz

[ornate trellis]

tis without

[toxic topaz]

damnnn that looks insane

[marsh reef]

i didnt touch the trees

[toxic topaz]

oop wrong reply

[strong kite]

ohhh

[toxic topaz]

well this is really good for inspiration

thank you

[ornate trellis]

can add some mountains in the far distance for more dephs, shrink down some palm trees for variety, take some of the desert sheets cacti etc

you can cut out some of the mountains of the original panorama, make em yellow and have them act like sand dunes

[strong kite]

Would that be like this then?

[toxic topaz]

ooh yea, for the horizon tho i was planning on it mostly being sand as far as the eye can see fading into haze

if anyone looks in my mods files before they discover any of this they're going to be like wtf is all this lol

because this is advertised as a new character mod

[strong kite]

@urban patrol Would I just be better off keeping them in the same folder?

[gaunt orbit]

I've been thinking about doing a walls & floors framework that among other things lets you use shaders as wallpapers/flooring but I still haven't figured out an elegant solution to loading RenderTargets into the asset pipeline, and that would definitely be needed for it to work

[lucid iron]

Walls and floors r map i thought

[gaunt orbit]

They are

But xtile uses the pipeline to load tilesheets

[lucid iron]

Yeah i just feel like messing with their draw is funkier than usual

What happens if u just do it the naive way

Like if u literally did Load<RenderTarget2D>

[gaunt orbit]

Well what I want to do is continue to use tiles like normal

I want it to work with the normal wallpaper system

[grave path]

So sorry im new... i tried putting axolotls (a mod on nexus) into the mod "Ecosystem Superpack Expansion".. Im not sure what im doing wrong; i simply replaced the targetfield, has mod section and the Id area.. they just won't show.

[real minnow]

Hii, I'm developing a java application for people who play stardew valley, and i'm trying to check to see if the user has the actual game before my program grabs a texture file. Does the .dll file only exist on the linux system, or does it exist for mac and windows?

[strong kite]

welp I've tried this as well as putting them in the same folder, I keep getting the same error

[gaunt orbit]

All systems

[real minnow]

tysm

[lucid iron]

Ah then i guess it's about consequences of giving a RenderTarget2D to a Load<Texture2D>

[lucid iron]

What will the app do

[real minnow]

It's basically a calendar that keeps track of growth, profit, and will implement artisan goods as well

(yes ik there's a github link that does that but I'm like "... what if it can do more than that")

[empty owl]

would this work? i want the hardwood recipe to give 5 instead of 1

[lucid iron]

I wonder if you ought to make a in-game mod instead

[iron ridge]

wouldn't that be more convenient as a web thing or a mod?

[lucid iron]

C# not that different than java

[real minnow]

ikk, this is also for a college project 😭

[lucid iron]

I am also making something along these lines rn

[real minnow]

Ooooo cool!

[lucid iron]

But i don't think I'll get that deep into maffs

[real minnow]

Not really since the application uses a database to grab info and I do not want to pay for a cloud db 😭

so the db is local instead

[strong kite]

Does anyone know what I've got wrong here?

[real minnow]

try surrounding it with a try-catch thing and see what exception it wants you to catch

[toxic topaz]

omg thats amazing, are you going to turn that into a keybind?

[iron ridge]

you can't make try catches in content patcher..

[iron ridge]

did you embed the tilesheet when adding it?

[strong kite]

Uhhh.. not sure-

Embedding isn't a term I've heard used for this yet

[void aspen]

do you use tsinator

[strong kite]

Ye I was told to download it for this

[void aspen]

if you import your tilesheets via tsinator then they are automatically embeded

Should be

[strong kite]

Alright, in that case yes it should be embedded

unless I dont understand what Importing actually means

[void aspen]

Its something with your path

ugh my brain isnt working at 2am

[strong kite]

that's been my brain since like 5PM

oh- uhhhhh.. i.. got it?

I just needed to remove the assets/ part of the FromFile

[lucid iron]

I am gonna make a book

[void aspen]

I suppose if it works

I am not entirely sure how cp uses the pathfinding things

[lucid iron]

Keybind maybe but tbh I'm not fan of that

[brave fable]

mmmm book

[strong kite]

Now I need to figure.. all of this out. Setting the Tileindex to actually use my tiles and and then.. the wizard.. again..

[toxic topaz]

@marsh reef so i suppose the cliff would kinda look like this

[lucid iron]

But come to think of it maybe it's more of an ipad

Maybe u get a dwarven PDA

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ I see I see, I'd personally suggest having it be wider with the cliff and pano middled at the bottom then view clamping it, so that it feels closer to a cutscene of an entry rather than a place to be looking around

and

depending on if you're good with changing the floor tiles or making a custom secion of this bit rq, the island tilesheet has the effectiveness of cliff edges for that side of a block

[strong kite]

changeMapTile Buildings 5 2 2/changeMapTile Buildings 6 2 3/changeMapTile Buildings 5 3 34/changeMapTile Buildings 6 3 35/changeMapTile Buildings 5 4 66/changeMapTile Buildings 6 4 67
How do I get these to use the right TileSheet for the TileIndex?

[toxic topaz]

ooh you're right, that does look good

i havent been to ginger island in like a year lol, so i havent even thought about that

[marsh reef]

i've never been to it :3

[toxic topaz]

whatttt

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️

[toxic topaz]

hmm.... ill try to do what you mean rq

[marsh reef]

assuming you have the game unpacked, check out the bus stop for an example of view clamping if you need

i only recently got the game and got more interested in being able to mod stuff than setting aside time to finish the game, but ive been making a custom map and not wanting to make too many of my own tiles so ive looked at mostly all of the tilesets

[toxic topaz]

yea i do, ill check that out, because im not sure what clamping means

[marsh reef]

the upper left and bottom right corners of the allowed view area, if your view is bigger than it, it just centers around there

[toxic topaz]

whoa... the bus stop is really weird wth

hmmmm, im not really sure how id use this in my cliff though

[marsh reef]

so yea this is the allowed section

brb ill tell you in a sec

[cunning kiln]

Doing some troubleshooting (technically as a player, but this is troubleshooting that will hopefully be used for debugging later). When you see a bunch of NPCs stack up and stop (and then, after a chunk of time, start to release a few NPCs at at time), is this usually the result of a broken/misplaced warp point?

And is there any way to see warp points outside of Lookup Anything's map properties data?

[toxic topaz]

i was thinking of having a short event where when the player enters the map it takes control and has the player walk to the edge of the cliff to view the whole panorama art

something to evoke the feeling of majesty? idk

[cunning kiln]

(Alternatively, I'm also interested in any tools that might help explain why pathfinding is going wonky.)

[marsh reef]

im drawing it for you 🤓

very poorly, red is the view clamp, blue is the pano, inaccurate scaling, but yk

[toxic topaz]

ahhhhh i see

[marsh reef]

ykyk?

[toxic topaz]

with mmap wouldnt it just cut out what isnt on the screen though?

or wait... idk im not sure how all that works

i set the outdoor value to true in the map, so...

[marsh reef]

the cliff is small, most ppl will see past the sides, its just so that its centered around the cliff

[marsh reef]

clamp works on all

[royal stump]

If I remember right, SpaceCore logs warning-level messages if the NPC scheduling code can't find a path between maps. You could install that if you haven't already, and check the log/console for those.

[toxic topaz]

sure, ill implement that clamp rq and then put it in with a warp and see how it looks

[cunning kiln]

Thanks, Esca! I have SpaceCore installed; is this data in the general SMAPI log, or do I need commands to see more detail for SpaceCore?

[royal stump]

I haven't done NPC testing myself to know, but I think it just appears automatically

[cunning kiln]

Actually, looking at the SMAP log, I'm seeing some SpaceCore data that looks relevant. Not sure what to do with it, but I think it's enough to take this to modded tech support. Thank you!

[brave fable]

mmmm yes the game specifically checks for debrisweather and season fall when there's a negative windgust value, or else it constantly stops the wind cue completely every frame

somehow i thought a little whoosh would be simpler

[marsh reef]

anything? 🤔

[brave fable]

really incredible how much a custom ambient soundscape does for a location

[toxic topaz]

im just putting the warps in now and about to load it up

[marsh reef]

I see

[toxic topaz]

... my map isnt loading for some reason lol, gotta fix this rq

[marsh reef]

vas?

is?

[toxic topaz]

oh, isnt

[marsh reef]

whats the error

[toxic topaz]

oh wait, i think the warp just isnt working... let me debug warp

[marsh reef]

is it just not sending you?

[toxic topaz]

hmmmm

[marsh reef]

i think

you're looking for

[toxic topaz]

i mean it should be loaded... i dont see a reason for it not to be

[marsh reef]

"yumyoboi.MeguminNPC_Desert.." or "yumyoboi.Desert.."

[toxic topaz]

ahh, it might be that, let me try again

[marsh reef]

should be the first

[toxic topaz]

...

[marsh reef]

ohoh

[toxic topaz]

  "LogName": "Load Desert Expanse Overlook",
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "Maps/{{ModId}}_DesertExpanseOverlook",
  "FromFile": "assets/maps/desertexpanseoverlook.tmx"
},```

looks like thats done properly

[marsh reef]

wait sorry that's for, thats for messages, yes it's the second one, name.mapname

[lucid iron]

u only loaded map

need Data/Locations edit

[toxic topaz]

ohhhhh, thats what i was forgetting

i knew it was something

[marsh reef]

oh yea with this you set it up to be what you'll call on it to be

mine is called on as seen after Maps/

[toxic topaz]

okay now it should be good, launching now

... one of my tilesheets isnt put in my mod lol, let me fix that rq

[brave fable]

incidentally warp takes a fuzzy query, so you can simply do warp megumin and it'll put you into the first best result from your mod

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ and remember to fix the file location for the set

[brave fable]

warp ook will probably give you the right map as well if you wanna go monkey mode

[toxic topaz]

monkey mode

ooh

the dangerous skull cavern is basically the pyramid tileset

... or wait, its the the pyramid variant, idk

[candid sapphire]

Yo I just made my first useful mod. Fixing the missing dialogue in the wedding event.

But really it should probably just be a bugfix in the actual game. Is there a way to let someone know about the bug/solution so they could actually put in the game?

[lucid iron]

i believe that bug is known right

[uncut viper]

It's already fixed in 1.6.16.

[candid sapphire]

I saw people talking about it, but I didn't see anyone actually find the problem.

[candid sapphire]

Ah well that's good lol. I guess this mod will be useful until then

[lucid iron]

Fixed Lewis skipping his matrimonial dialogue at the farmer's wedding.

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6.16

[ornate locust]

1.6.16 is out

oh wait

in beta

[lucid iron]

no its not

[ornate locust]

look I am bad at numbers

sometimes I see a number and it is not the number I am looking at

[lucid iron]

but yea if u have other similar things

!officialbugs

!officialbug

[ocean sail]

If you've checked that it's not a mod bug:

• Report gameplay bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into).
• Report typos or translation errors here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/32/
  Alternatively, you can email [e-mail]

To use this command, type !officialbug.

[lucid iron]

and rn theres a thread for .16 testing #1387907186713301072

[hard fern]

1.6.16 is our in your heart

[candid sapphire]

I see I see. Interesting, maybe I'll check that out next time.

It was educational at least lol

[strong kite]

Seems like there's more people here so dont mind me asking this again
changeMapTile Buildings 5 2 2/changeMapTile Buildings 6 2 3/changeMapTile Buildings 5 3 34/changeMapTile Buildings 6 3 35/changeMapTile Buildings 5 4 66/changeMapTile Buildings 6 4 67
How do I get the event to use the TileSheet from my mod for the TileIndex?

[toxic topaz]

im so confused why im getting the error about the tile sheet not being allowed to be an absolute path even after i got rid of the old path and made it into the one in the same folder...

oh, wait nevermind

[brave fable]

oh while you're around, did you ever solve the issue of raindrops falling on sky backgrounds?

[toxic topaz]

@marsh reef omg, finally got it to work

[faint ingot]

is it possible to use CP tokens for the X/Y coordinates in a map edit? I think it's not valid JSON if I put {{tokenx}},{{tokeny}} without quotes

[lucid iron]

Yeah i wrote a terrible transpiler

[brave fable]

yep that's about what i expected haha

[uncut viper]

Just put it in quotes.

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/MiscMapActionsProperties/Framework/Location/Panorama.cs#L581

I think what i did was get all background not null to go into the IslandNorth branch

So i just steal same thing game does to prevent rain on bg

[brave fable]

oh that's perfectly elegant wtf

[lucid iron]

So if u want u can yoink this transpiler and then not do it when mmap installed (cus it'd be redundant)

[uncut viper]

I think you were misleading us when you said it was a terrible transpiler

[lucid iron]

All transpilers are terrible

[uncut viper]

don't blame the tool blame the tradesman

[lucid iron]

As in beautiful and terrible

Not as in low quality

[tiny zealot]

ah, the classical terrible

[uncut viper]

I think a well constructed transpiler is beautiful in all regards

[lucid iron]

I hold the ILGenerator like Sméagol yes

[brave fable]

all transpilers are beautiful

oh well if this just works i'll just download mmap. have you tested if it loads in 1.6.16-alpha?

[wary totem]

Hey guys newbie modder here, I'm trying to make a small edit to an SVE map (TownEast) with CP but the edited part won't show. I don't get any errors from SMAPI, this is my content. Any ideas? 🥲

[brave fable]

MMAP, ba duba dop ba du
yeah, yeah

[lucid iron]

A different unrelated transpiler is broken in 1.6.16

I think i have wrote down fix behind a compilation flag tho

[brave fable]

i'll just copy this one for now and download it later then thank yooou

[lucid iron]

Is your tbin 3x3 size?

[wary totem]

Yes, it's a super small edit, just to try my hand at it.

[lucid iron]

Ah then the problem is your target

You gotta target the same thing sve targets (probably Maps/Custom_TownEast? Check sve's json)

[wary totem]

I've tried to changed it to Maps/Custom_TownEast but it's a no show 🥲

[marsh reef]

Eyyyyyyyy nice bro, btw, set the clamp to one past the end of the map if you want to be able to see the last block, idk if you have that or not already

[brave fable]

almost perfect, for some reason raindrops can splash at the very top of the screen

i'll just assume this is vanilla and pretend not to care

[marsh reef]

do you have anything placed there ? 🤔 😭

[marsh reef]

oh fair

[lucid iron]

Maybe u got a tile up there?

Iirc it was based on Back tiles

[brave fable]

nope, nada, no tiles on any layers

[uncut viper]

Transpile the color in the draw call to be transparent when it's over that specific tile 😌

[marsh reef]

make custom rain :3

[marsh reef]

sick trees, are those yours?

[brave fable]

"specific tile" no as in when starting anywhere above the map

[uncut viper]

Even easier! Make it transparent if it started above the map

[brave fable]

yep, i need to redo the big pinks though since they're old and ugly

[lucid iron]

Honestly that's probably a thing i should do lol

[marsh reef]

far left one? or

[lucid iron]

I didn't test with a particularly large screen so i never noticed this

But it presumably affects ppl with big monitors on island north too?

[brave fable]

yeah i do wonder if anyone will actually be able to see any of the weather effects given i'm testing at 4k

[lucid iron]

What does island north look like on 4k bluebs

[old edge]

I’m getting this errror _-> 14:17:38 WARN SpaceCore Scheduler could not find route from custom_house to islandSouth while honoring Gender female

I keep triple check my npcWarp and it does say something on top about the beach map

[lucid iron]

So is there a route from custom_house to island south

(custom_house is probably a bad thing to name a location)

[old edge]

I checked already for a long time I’m using addNPCWarps

[lucid iron]

Have you been to island south this save

[old edge]

I have a map in tiles with one npcWarp to my custom_house the other I’m adding using the addNPCWarp

So they do have a route I believe. I think I have beeen

[brave fable]

i don't think it's supposed to rain at island_north, but yes there are also occasional rain splashes in the sky even in places without any tiles on any layers

[lucid iron]

Vanilla bug no fix

[marsh reef]

can you gift clothing to npcs?

[brave fable]

i hereby pronounce you game developer

no, all wearable items are non-giftable

[ornate locust]

It isn't?

I could swear I've been there while it was raining because of the birds

you gotta find the bird in the rain to get the gem, that thing

[brave fable]

huh, i just assumed since i don't remember being there while it's raining and the background still looks nice and sunny

[lucid iron]

Yeah there's no rain panorama

[cold wolf]

Hi! I made some furniture that changes with the seasons, but Smapi throws an unnecessary error when changing seasons, even though the furniture works. Does anyone know how to prevent this from happening?

[ornate locust]

Oh yeah it DOES rain there in island north, because there's a bird in each of the four cardinal directions you have to get a gem from when it rains

and north is included

[marsh reef]

unnecessary?

[lucid iron]

Always load something unconditionally

[cold wolf]

It's not necessary, load the spring furniture, start summer and throw the error that the spring furniture is not working

[marsh reef]

sounds like ur tryna load them as seperate things? what're you using to make the furniture

[lucid iron]

If u wish to avoid this error, change it to a Load for spring (priority=Low) and a Load for {{seasons}} (priority Medium)

[cold wolf]

I'm new to this furniture making thing. 😅

[lucid iron]

I would also avoid using different asset names (keep your target token free)

[lucid mulch]

or just unconditionally load all 4 seasons and keep Data/Furniture as-is

[marsh reef]

hmm, idk how you're using it but if you're able to make an FF portion of your mod(s), its seasonal portion is quite easy to get working

[tiny zealot]

what chu said. your loads should be unconditional; if nothing requests the asset, it won't be loaded

[lucid mulch]

its a texture, smapi will always try to reload a texture asset when it gets invalidated, and if it fails that message happens

[cold wolf]

Okay, thank you very much!

[lucid mulch]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/src/SMAPI/Metadata/CoreAssetPropagator.cs#L205-L260

[opal glen]

does anybody know of a way to force pet gifts? I'm slightly altering what a cat can drop and I'd like to test it. Wondering if there's a better way than just relying on the RNG of hitting a 20% chance of gift and then a 1.7% chance of the specific gift

[lucid iron]

debug BefriendPets and then raise ur chance while testing?

[opal glen]

How would I raise the chance when testing? Just add that to the mod?

I already cheated the cat to 5 hearts

[lucid iron]

yea just change pet data

GiftChance

[marsh reef]

✨ "GiftChance" : "21" ✨

hi cringe

[warm relic]

hiii! can anyone tell me how to use quickQuestions on events?

[warm relic]

hello!!

[brave fable]

ahhhh the game doesn't update the currently-playing ambient soundscape when changing locations even if the new location has a different soundscape

[autumn tide]

I can pull up the wiki thing for it if you'd like! ngl I always sucked at events

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data#:~:text=true to add).-,quickQuestion,-%3Cquestion%3E%23

[warm relic]

I'm using the wiki dw!! problem is the game doesn't seem to register the answer to my questions

[autumn tide]

aah okay, could you maybe send your json/log so we can look?

[warm relic]

I think I might be using the wrong (break) thing

[warm relic]

is there a way for me to send only the event lines? the json it is in is quite big

[brave fable]

here's a QQ of mine

[autumn tide]

wait blueberry I don't think I've seen your mods what's your nexus?

[autumn tide]

you should be able to!

[toxic topaz]

assuming the name is correct, would this warp work?

because for some reason it isnt

[brave fable]

this example doesn't use i18n, so you'll want to replace the displayed text of course

[marsh reef]

if you set up the map to be named {{ModID}}_DesertExpanseOverlook yea

[warm relic]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b3a9030977f74beb9a945328678847de here

[marsh reef]

is 4 0 the correct tile you're wanting

[toxic topaz]

in the context of my overlay yea, or would it have to be for the desert map itself

[marsh reef]

4 0 is the location from which you're going

[brave fable]

ah, is this warp map property embedded in your small map patch file?

[toxic topaz]

uh, i dont think so?

but the warp in my new map doesnt have that and it works fine

[marsh reef]

oh right map patch huh

[brave fable]

what map file is it in, and what map asset is that file targeting?

[autumn tide]

ahh I think you're missing the \" guys in the beginning here

(also do you prefer being pinged or no?)

[toxic topaz]

well the warp would be right there in the desert

[marsh reef]

ppl who rather not get pinged will forever be confusng to me

[toxic topaz]

if someone doesnt ping me i likely wont even see their message

[warm relic]

I don't mind it!

[autumn tide]

real ngl

[brave fable]

if you noclip to 4, 0 in the Desert map i think you'll find your warp works

[warm relic]

wait where exacly

[toxic topaz]

i changed it to here

[marsh reef]

🤣 exactly what i put in my name, people still reply without replying to my message to ping me 💔

[toxic topaz]

and it doesnt work

[autumn tide]

one sec..

[marsh reef]

did 4 0 not work?

oh, does it try to warp you?

[brave fable]

well now you've used a CP token in a Tiled map, which will never be parsed

[autumn tide]

around the i18n guys

[toxic topaz]

i dont think so?

it just does nothing

[autumn tide]

...I'm like 80% sure

[warm relic]

ohh ok got it give me a sec i'll try

[toxic topaz]

i changed it to 33 0 and just tested it, nothing

[marsh reef]

go back to the yumyo

[brave fable]

consider adding and editing map properties with CP, in this case with AddWarps:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md#edit-map-properties

[marsh reef]

i meant the {{ModId}} as in how you set up the map in Content.json 😅

[toxic topaz]

ah lol

okay changed it, now im testin

[brave fable]

the game is currently looking for a map literally named {{ModId}}_DesertExpanseOverlook since CP doesn't parse tokens in Tiled map properties

[toxic topaz]

im probably going to spend the entire day tomorrow working on that panorama artwork lol good thing im on vacation from work

[brave fable]

strange, now my ambient soundscape is changing between locations. odd game

[toxic topaz]

hm... no it still doesnt work

[autumn tide]

alr I'm gonna go and sleep now, but hopefully I could help out!

the downside of bullying people into having sleep schedules is having to follow your own demands

[toxic topaz]

whats weird is i can warp to it through debug using the same name

[marsh reef]

does it attempt to warp you

[brave fable]

that simply means your map property isn't formatted correctly; again, try editing the map properties with CP instead of adding them directly in Tiled.

[toxic topaz]

no just nothing

[toxic topaz]

sure ill try that

[brave fable]

and if that doesn't work, share the content file here via https://json.smapi.io as usual

[toxic topaz]

wait...

     "SetProperties": {
       "Warp 6 4 {{ModID}}_DesertExpanseOverlook 20 19"
     }
   }``` 

whats the thing for the walk over warp?

is it just warp: ?

since it isnt an action warp

[brave fable]

use AddWarps as linked above, which edits the Warp map property (a walk-over warp)

[toxic topaz]

ahh, okay thank you ill add that

nice it all works

[royal rover]

It took a while since my search doesn't look through DLLs unless the object is already decompiled and open, but I eventuallly found it at GameLocation.performAction. That is a long file.

[cold wolf]

Thanks @lucid iron and everyone else, it's not throwing any errors now :)

I was going crazy, I definitely won't be doing any more furniture mods, I don't like them.

[nova gale]

I assume, looking at the fish modding page, that you can't add fish to the mine levels via CP?

[lucid iron]

nop

i think u could maybe have stuff to lv20 and 40 but definitely not 100

[nova gale]

I shouldn't say I'm shocked, the mines are stupidly hardcoded 😛 but alas

[marsh reef]

😎 this discussion actually helped me do a thing ive been putting off bc i thought it would be more difficult

[dreamy dew]

What is the purpose of the white block in texture files?

I notice some sprite sheets of a building or character in the game, specifically looking into one's mod files, I notice they don't leave the unused space empty.

Instead, they leave a white block usually, or any other color. What is it for?

[toxic topaz]

ooh what is it?

[marsh reef]

my farm adds a section between itself and marnies bc the south of my farm is the ocean

[toxic topaz]

ohhh

so you just swapped out the warps?

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ figured out i can do that, yes

[torpid sparrow]

https://imgur.com/a/TAuqjv9

Anyone know why this might be happening LOL

Her sleeping sprite is showing for everything

[toxic topaz]

sprites confuse tf out of me

[torpid sparrow]

I recently changed the end of each schedule to be bed instead of the sleep sprite

Is that screwing it up

[tiny zealot]

i doubt it, at least not on its own

[torpid sparrow]

Hmm weird

The player didn’t report any errors

[uncut viper]

did the player report any smapi logs

[royal stump]

as far as I know, that's not required or functional, it's just a thing CA did in empty portrait slots and such

[torpid sparrow]

no ill ask for one

[royal stump]

(possibly to indicate that they're actually unused, rather than needing to be transparent, etc)

[toxic topaz]

i think i might just make a super rough copy of the desert pyramid panorama tomorrow, just enough so that it looks good enough to make sense. and i can make it better later

[rich seal]

My workflow is horrendous and morale super low. I was reminded of NPC tastes, and I have an unknown number of items (aka I don't actually know how many), and I keep thinking I missed something. I hate NPC gift tastes, but I didn't want to just be lazy and leave them out or just lump em all in universals (even though I did for like 20 items). A torture of my own making...

[torpid sparrow]

i should delete my own config file before uploading yes?

i did that before but i am feeling paranoid

[royal stump]

C# and CP config stuff automatically generates a default one if it doesn't exist at launch (or ig technically when the mod looks at it)

[strong kite]

Question: would there happen to be an easy way to quick swap a map’s textures?
For the map I’m gonna make I’m copying the Emily’s Dream Sequence area, and for the textures I’ve just recolored everything. Would there be an easy way to just swap all the textures to the recolored ones in Tiled?

[brave fable]

yep, you want this button to replace the full tileset with your own, which requires that you create a new TSX file, possibly via 'new tileset'

[marsh reef]

you could map patch it out and back 🤔

[strong kite]

Good to know! I’ll give these a shot tomorrow

[rich seal]

I was today years old when I realized Elliott's name was not Elliot. I was driving myself nuts here, but I seriously never noticed his name ended in tt. Explains why my NPCGiftTastes patch kept failing lmao

[strong kite]

Omg I did the same thing when I set up my gift tastes file 😭

[brave fable]

!elliot

[ocean sail]

Elliott has two t's in it...

To use this command, type !elliot.

[strong kite]

On another note, I’m def gonna have to push any further big content additions to my mod for another update cuz dang I got really frustrated and confused today
I’ll add the Npc and zone for them, bundles related to them, maybe a second event, but other than those I do not want to push myself considering I’m on a pseudo time limit

[brave fable]

oldest trick in the book

[strong kite]

I REALLY need to get my mod to a state where I’m happy to push out the update, and then see how much more I want to add

[faint ingot]

I'm confused at the moment because if I send the token from c# to CP as a string, it 'accepts' the token but when I put the value as X in an editmap (in quotes), CP complains that the token can't be used because it isn't restricted to integers. If I try to send the token to CP as an int, CP rejects the token saying it can't be mapped.

I found some info in the extensibility guide that it looks like I need to indicate the token is bounded ("When registering a token, a token is bounded if you implement HasBoundedValues or HasBoundedRangeValues. ") but I'm not sure how to do that - if anyone can help point me in the right direction.

[viral ermine]

finished my first mod :)

[marsh reef]

Hey blueberry

[dreamy dew]

I guess that makes sense. We can know which part can be utilize even without function, or which to totally avoid because of it.

[marsh reef]

If I make a farm, and build on it what not, and update it later with the npcs that I’m making once I finish them, will that work out fine or will everything explode?

[faint ingot]

usually it's safe to add NPC mods to an existing save. sometimes it's a bad idea to remove them though.

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ bc assuming I place placeholder blocks on the map, it would be fine to replace them later when I finish em?

[faint ingot]

I would think so, make sure when you are creating your NPCs and objects that they use unique internal names (preface them with your ModID)

[marsh reef]

Ofcofc, I’m just making sure if I get my custom farm to being playable, it’ll work just fine to add to it later assuming it doesn’t overlap anything I’ve placed 🤔

[brave fable]

you'd want to prevent anything from being placed on tiles you plan on making inaccessible later, otherwise players can lose objects, crops, trees, etc on those tiles. they won't be removed, just clearly misplaced, probably visibly clipping through tiles

other than that, add or edit as you need, avoid ID changes and conflicts, changing data of existing items and crops, etc

[marsh reef]

alr epic

i just had a question and its literally in the abyss now

[brave fable]

really it just depends on what you're changing. if you change an item's data but it already exists in the world, that instance will still use its old values. if you change an NPC schedule that would affect the current day, it will still use the previous schedule. if you remove an item entirely, it'll become a safe error item. if you change a map layout, everything in it will remain exactly where it was before.

if you're making parts of a map unusable, you're going to want to avoid changing anywhere that wasn't already unusable, which may mean adding a big tile object with NoSpawn All Placeable T

[marsh reef]

mmmmmm, i think once i start playing it'll literally just be the change of placing down their houses with them in em, I think other than some ponds i gotta add rq there's nothing else to add

and they dont leave their house or go to events, so

[marsh reef]

OH, chat does anyone know off the top of their head the size of the hitbox of the cabins?

and, how does the style picking work?

[royal stump]

Data/Buildings says they should be 5x3 tiles (so 80x48 pixels if needed that way)

"Size": {
  "X": 5,
  "Y": 3
},```
and it depends on what you mean, but it has a list of defined "skins" in there; I think the start-of-game cabins are coded to use those in order, and at the carpentry shop there's a menu option to pick

[marsh reef]

oh i see i see okok ty

well idk how accurate the number placement is but theyre placed where i need em, so that's nice

[small kindle]

how important is a content.json length in terms of like keeping it short? The one I am working on is going to be like 5k lines with my current plans but idk if thats a lot of like not a big deal lol.

[ornate locust]

It isn't

[small kindle]

Oh good

[ornate locust]

When people shorten their content.jsons, it's generally by putting things in other jsons for sorting purposes so they can find stuff easier. Or so they can use hasmods to activate different jsons, etc

[small kindle]

Ah ok cool. That makes sense, thanks

Didnt want to like nuke things with a json because I wanted a kinda pointless feature lol

One more question since I am here. Is there like a good way to scale portraits? Like I am trying to give 3 sizes for the ui/portrait along side an android mode and I am kinda just guessing or hoping its good lol. I am just kind of winging it to see what works but is there something out there that I have just missed?

[ornate locust]

sorry, your question's over my head. From what I know, portraits are just one size without frameworks and stuff to make them bigger.

[small kindle]

Yeah thats fair. Its kinda a unique problem since the portrait isnt vanilla layout anymore and like a full body off to the side one so lol. Thanks though

I got one working real crisp but it has a dll and didnt want to include something like that in just a CP portrait mod so trying to figure it out the hard way lol

[ornate locust]

You're gonna need a dll or a framework, pretty sure.

Portraits don't scale without extra work

[small kindle]

Can i ask if like...would including a dll in like a portrait replacer or something fairly minor like that be weird? lol or frowned upon? I am fairly new to modding so idk if theres like standard practices for things like that

[ornate locust]

If you need it to do what you need, it doesn't matter. As I said, there's frameworks and stuff to scale portraits, it's not that weird

[small kindle]

Ok, i wouldnt think so but you never know lol

[marsh reef]

🙂‍↕️ there’s a fair number of creative things you can’t really do simply, so long as the mod runs and doesn’t make it a slide show I can’t imagine there’s too much you can do to be looked down upon unless you’re stealing stuff :3

[stoic chasm]

Does this plaque placement look okay? Does the gold clash too much with the other stuff?

[fossil osprey]

It's kind of taking all of my attention, depends if that's what you want to go for

You could desaturate it to push it back into the background

[stoic chasm]

Ah, I see. Mmmmmm... Yeah, I don't really want it to have all the focus. How would I go about desaturating it-? Sorry

[fossil osprey]

depends what software you use, on aseprite you can simply lower the saturation of an entire selection

[hard fern]

hmm, maybe a silver plaque would look better?

[stoic chasm]

A silver one? Huh. That's not a bad idea...but I do kinda like the gold. I didn't know aseprite could do that- That's cool

[fossil osprey]

Yeah, if you're using it, select your sprite then go to Edit > Adjustments > Hue/Saturation…, and you'll have a little window with sliders

example on my awesome pizza soup sprite

[stoic chasm]

Oohh okay, cool! Thanks for your help!

[fossil osprey]

(oh btw, to the person that made the concept of pizza soup, I need to share this very funny interaction I had with colleagues about it)
"- I know someone who imagined a concept of "pizza soup""
"- Uh, that sounds weird"
"- It's tomato soup with cheese, mushroom, and pepperoni, with pizza crust balls on the side"
"- …do they have a business I can buy it from?"

[glass herald]

Does making npc dialogues requires C# or nah?

[hard fern]

no

[[Modding:Dialogue]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

[glass herald]

Okay how about making custom responses? Like you have to type questions and stuff yourself and then the npc will respond whatever you said?

[hard fern]

ok that is uh.... c# but also i am not sure if you can really make the npc respond to "anything"

[glass herald]

Hmm

[hard fern]

by default you can't ask npcs anything, just the standard question answer dialogue

(as in, npc asks you a question, you pick a multiple choice answer, npc says their predetermined response dialogue)

[glass herald]

I'm planning on making my own NPC and then applying that mechanic on that said NPC

Let me try and fetch a mod that does something similar

[hard fern]

i feel like if you were to make an npc respond (at least somewhat) to anything you put, you'd have to probably make some kind of response system where the "npc" can detect keywords in your sentence and then output an appropriate enough response. the thing i think of is the mail system in animal crossing XD that lets them actually write you letters back

[glass herald]

Okay the mod got removed by the author for some reason but it's something similar to this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lVDdP6wGks0&pp=ygUtc3RhcmRldyB2YWxsZXkgbW9kIHRoYXQgbGV0cyB5b3Ugc2F5IGFueXRoaW5n

But instead of the game's existing NPCs, it's your own npc

[glass herald]

Yeah like this kind of system

Something tells me that I needed C# for this

[hard fern]

i feel like you need more than a little C# haha....

[glass herald]

Fahh

😭 _ _

[glass herald]

I'll try to make it work I guess, for now I'll do the multiple choice method as an experimental build

Thanks btw

[hard fern]

for one you'd need a database of accepted keywords/word combinations, eg: recognizing something like "I love you", and then a database of ways they can respond, eg: saying "I love you too" back if the system recognizes that keyword.

[glass herald]

Hmm, just like training an AI

[barren tapir]

No, training AI would involve some sort of ML algorithm. What Reflective is talking about would just be a dictionary mapping (I forget the name of the actual algorithm), with potential RNG weights added for variety.

The difference is that the algorithm doesn't need to "learn" what those key phrases are

-# Also, I'm not trying to talke about AI. I'm just trying to provide aid for if you try to look up resources 😅

[fossil osprey]

The (original) animal crossing letter system is very well made, I've seen an interesting video about it
I can probably find it back if you want to take inspo from that

[barren tapir]

I just don't want you looking into AI training methods for this since it doesn't sound like it'd do what you need it to do.

[glass herald]

Don't worry I'm against AI anyway, speaking from experience

Thanks for the heads-up though

[barren tapir]

Okay!

[glass herald]

Please do, any help would be appreciated. I just need some kind of reference

[fossil osprey]

https://youtu.be/8VbwWVvw-zI

this one

They made another video about the dialogues of the game, it's awfully big

[barren tapir]

IDK if you need a system quite that complex, but Animal Crossing does do a very good job at this if I recall correctly

[glass herald]

This NPC I'm attempting to make is quite a unique one haha 😅

I just came up with it like "hmm, what if I inserted the wiki itself into the game?"

[barren tapir]

Are you trying to create an NPC Webscrapper that pulls random lines from the Wiki?

[glass herald]

Not necessarily

I'm trying to make a complex type of mechanic where every question you ask it responds, either related to the game or non-related

Related:

• "What should I do at the first day?"

Non-related:

• "Are you from [insert game here]?"

Personal:

• "What are you?"

[barren tapir]

Hmm. In that case, an ML algorithm could actually be a valid means of accomplishing this.

However, you could also use the animal crossing system

[glass herald]

But instead of multiple choices, you type them manually

[void aspen]

I'd love if npca could say something about the clothes we wear

Or things we did

[glass herald]

Noted

[void aspen]

Hey nice {{Farmer.Hat.Name}}

Token made up

Something simple yet cool

Maybe they could rate it depending on the color tag too

[barren tapir]

Yeah, if you want to take the easy route, you could use a ChatGPT backend. It'd definitely be easier than writing and training an ML algorithm from scratch (I say this as someone who did this in Highschool before ChatGPT was even a thing 😅)

[void aspen]

Or prices

[glass herald]

I'm planning on making the NPC a blank slate. Instead of your typical NPC, you're able to customize its personality

The amount of possibilities of this idea

[barren tapir]

How are you going to handle different languages?

[glass herald]

I guess I'll also handle that by myself

[barren tapir]

I wish you the best of luck in this endeavor!

[hard fern]

that would be the easy route, but also get your mod blacklisted from being mentioned in this server haha

[barren tapir]

Noted

I'm not sure where exactly that line of where discussions about AI is (this originally just stemmed from me trying to provide technical resources 😅)

[hard fern]

well, genai is banned here

[barren tapir]

Genai as in Generative AI, or AI in general?

[hard fern]

generative ai

[barren tapir]

Gotcha.

[dire kestrel]

#bulletin-board message

[barren tapir]

Thanks!

[toxic topaz]

What would be rewards in a dungeon of a similar tier to that of stardrop tea?

I haven’t played Stardew for real in a long time so I forgot what good rewards would be lol

[fossil osprey]

probably something like magic rock candy, or very rare skull cavern loots (autopetter, cowboy hats), but tbh there isn't much "very high-tier" rewards

[toxic topaz]

Yea… well I can vary it a bit, and maybe make a cosmetic or two myself. Ty

[barren tapir]

Is it possible to add an "Action OpenShop" tile property to a map via content patcher, or can that only be done in C#?

[lucid iron]

You just add that yep

People usually write it into tmx or use CP EditMap MapTiles

[verbal glacier]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md#edit-map-tiles here's some documentation on EditMap MapTiles

[barren tapir]

Thanks!

[merry river]

Trying to get my spacecore spawnables to work again but I'm still stuck with the same error that had not existed prior to that change

                {
                    "ID": "{{ModID}}_Trigger_Spawnables_winter",
                    "Trigger": "DayStarted",
                    "Condition": "SEASON winter",
                    "MarkActionApplied": false,
                    "Actions": [
                        "spacechase0.SpaceCore_TriggerSpawnGroup {{ModID}}_SpawnGroup_winter {{SpawnableCoordinates}}"
                    ]
                },

{
            "Name": "SpawnableCoordinates",
            "Value": "Forest 42,73,4,3/55,73,3,7"
        },

        {
            "Name": "SpawnableCoordinates",
            "When": { "HasMod: |contains=FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP": true, "House Location": "SVE"} ,
            "Value": "Forest 18,69,2,2/17,79,3,2/22,79,2,2"
        },
        {
            "Name": "SpawnableCoordinates", 
            "When": { "House Location": "Alternate" },
            "Value": "void.peiming_PeiMingNewOutdoors 6,12,3,4"
        },```

I'm using a dynamic token as there's three map patches and I did not have that error before I changed the spawn groups. the formatting looks right?

[royal stump]

are you sure that's up to date? that error shows spaces between the numbers in the lowest value

[merry river]

Yeah, I haven't had any spaces between the numbers at all; this is what it looks like in VS Code:

I don't see any spaces at least but I might be mistaken?

[royal stump]

you may want to check a patch export Data/TriggerActions~, unless that is already; I'm not sure why dynamic tokens would add them, but they affect whether those coordinates are 1 argument or 4
(ig the tokens wouldn't be in that)