making-mods-general

[brittle pasture]

you can gate your NPC's unlock condition/map patch/etc. behind the "bus repaired" mail flag

[meager ginkgo]

thx :D

[torpid sparrow]

if im setting up a door for an existing NPC, can i just do Door Sam for example, or do i have to go through the whole door process

[latent mauve]

what do you mean by the door process?

[torpid sparrow]

setting up an interior door

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide

[latent mauve]

You need the both the map property and the door action because one controls the door animation/visibility and one controls the ability to pass through it

[torpid sparrow]

ahh oki

[latent mauve]

you don't need to make a "custom" door since you can use the normal ones from the towninterior tileset, but you do still need to set the properties

[torpid sparrow]

will copy paste from the respective houses

hopefully it works

[latent mauve]

Just make sure it's on the map properties as well as having the TileData object. 🙂

[torpid sparrow]

yes!

[void aspen]

SpriteIndex The sprite's index within the Texture, where 0 is the top-left sprite.
Do they go from left to right and top to bottom?

[upper fractal]

hey so im pretty new to making nps and overall modding.I followed all the steps that are in the stardew modding wiki on how to make a custom npc (i think,im not sure if its completely right) and i get this error that i dont understand how to fix.If i were to post my smapi error log here would someone take a look into it?

[torpid sparrow]

Yes

[autumn tide]

that's what we're here for :)

here's the link to post a detailed log:

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[upper fractal]

https://smapi.io/log/5a5593f9186b4a41acf9f5c00628a755

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 20 C# mods and 25 content packs.

[upper fractal]

i might probably have done something stupid haha,im pretty bad at following instructions if theyre not super specific

[autumn tide]

oh, it looks like there are errors affecting many of the vanilla NPCs?

[torpid sparrow]

Send ur content json please as well

It looks like ur missing something

[upper fractal]

should i just copy it down and paste it here?

or should i send the file?

[torpid sparrow]

No through the website

[autumn tide]

this shows up in your log as well, you might wanna check it out:

https://smapi.io/reset-content

[torpid sparrow]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[upper fractal]

okeyy

[tall inlet]

Dumb question, but would "the hell is this?" be offputting as too much swearing for a stardew character?

As a dislike

[upper fractal]

in the json format selection should i click the content patcher one or none?

[torpid sparrow]

Nope

[latent mauve]

the answer to this is also yes

[autumn tide]

I think it's fine, but you might wanna put a disclaimer for very mild language etc in your mod's description

[torpid sparrow]

Should be the latest version of content patcher

[upper fractal]

okey!

[torpid sparrow]

For compat with android though use 2.8.0

Instead of latest

[upper fractal]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/cadabfd1cf1c49ee8416350f49c7fc2c

here u go!

[latent mauve]

You have too many [ ]s

[autumn tide]

thanks!

[torpid sparrow]

yeah u got a [] for every patch

[latent mauve]

There should only be one after "Changes" here, and one to close it out at the end before your }.

[meager ginkgo]

[
{},
{},
{},
{},
{}
]

[upper fractal]

ahhh i see,i got a bit confused bc in the wiki said smth about [] and i didnt know where to put it exactly

[latent mauve]

In case you're not familiar with JSON:

• [ ] denotes a list of data models here, in this case, your patches!
• { } denotes a data model/patch

[upper fractal]

so it should be smth like changes} and at the end another one?

[autumn tide]

looks like you got the formatting wrong :) i fixed it up for you if you'd like https://smapi.io/json/none/647db8a3097c462c880a636bc4e06919

buttons has a really good tutorial on syntax, one sec..

[latent mauve]

"Changes": [ <add your patches here> ]

[autumn tide]

https://stardew.button.gay/tutorials/json here!

[upper fractal]

alright thanks!I'll replace this with the one i had in my folder and see if that fixes the problem!

[autumn tide]

your other files might also have formatting isssues as well, I'd really reccomend looking at that tutorial site I just sent

[upper fractal]

yup i just checked,im having issues with dialogues and something about tokens?

[void aspen]

wait I forgot how do I know my custom object ItemId if I only have Id

[latent mauve]

First things to check with that:

• Did you load a blank.json for your dialogue file?
• Are you using EditData to add entries with tokens (like {{ModId}} in them?

[upper fractal]

alright,im looking into it rn and see if i get a better grasp on that stuff

[autumn tide]

the CP docs are great too: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/tree/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide

[upper fractal]

sorry im a bit slow,i think i have one but not for dialogues in specific.And im sure if im using editdata or not cause i dont really understand much about it

[latent mauve]

What did you define your object's ID as when you created the Data entry? That is your unqualified ID. Your Qualified ID will be that + the type of object at the front (so if it's added via Data/Objects, (O){{ModId}}_YourNewObject etc.)

[autumn tide]

it's okay! you'd probably want to start by reading more of the docs first then, before trying to fix any issues

[void aspen]

oh I see okay

now lets see if I done it right

[fierce vault]

I hate it when I'm writng an event and realize I need more expressions for it to look right

[autumn tide]

heheeee add more expressions

[fierce vault]

I don't necessarily hate making more expressions, but it would be really nice if that kind of thing didn't happen when I thought I'd be able to be done with something

[latent mauve]

If you are using a "Action": "Load" with an Entries field, then you cannot use tokens in the key/value pairs added as part of the Entries, which is why I mention using EditData instead.

[upper fractal]

i see,i think thats the problem.i bought stardew valley recently and was very excited about the idea of making custom npcs i didnt think abt learning the crucial things for it

[autumn tide]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1458949849553698847/1485693715589890108/stickbug.gif

[autumn tide]

i get that haha, take your time :)

[upper fractal]

then if i change it to edit data it would allow me to use a token?

[latent mauve]

Yes, but if you didn't load a blank JSON to the target first, it won't think the target exists so the patch won't happen.

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[latent mauve]

The last link (my WIP NPC Builder) has a tab that explains blank JSONs

for easy reference:

[upper fractal]

ohh i see,quick question.Can i load everything that i need ex:schedule,dialogues into one singular blank.json or do i have to do it for each one?

[latent mauve]

Yep, you can set multiple Targets to use the same blank.json

[void aspen]

smapi hates me when I try to add a new object on this exact line 😭

do I have to load the texture first to Maps

or keep in my mod folder

[upper fractal]

ahh got it,i did a blank.json but only for the schedule i think bc i didnt think dialogues would need one too!

for what i understood {} are for json objects and [] for lists,right?

[torpid sparrow]

it doesnt necessarily need one but it makes adding conditions possible

[latent mauve]

Textures need to be loaded first unless you want to use InternalAssetKey, which is bad for cross-mod compatibility

[void aspen]

oh I see

[latent mauve]

Also, your texture will need to be enclosed in quotes

[void aspen]

ohh right

[latent mauve]

For easy reference, here's an example of a blank JSON load I did to add an empty Data/Events JSON for all of the new locations added in my Pelican Valley Lofts NPC Apartment mod:

    "LogName": "Add Blank Event JSON for Apartment Locations",
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_PelicanValleyLoft, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Lobby, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Elevator, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Floor1, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Floor2, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Floor3, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Floor4, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Floor5, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Floor6, Data/Events/FRL_NPCApt_Floor7",
    "FromFile": "assets/blank.json"
  },```

[upper fractal]

if im not wrong the lists is whats inside the json objects?

[latent mauve]

One code block, targets all of the locations at once (and the locations are only added through my mod, so I get to not include a priority on my Load. 😛 )

[void aspen]

after I load it do I just put its path as "Maps/{{ModId}}_Texture" for my objects?

generally target path

[latent mauve]

Not quite. Lists can have JSON objects inside THEM, but not all fields will accept lists of objects, some will only accept key/value pairs.

The wiki has a pretty well-documented list of what fields accept lists of objects if you check the modding namespace

[latent mauve]

The Target you use to Load your asset becomes your Texture path from that point on, yes.

[upper fractal]

quick question should i edit all the load to editdata in my content.json?

[fierce vault]

can I ask what you all think about the capitalization (and presentation) of my forums topics? there will be no posts section because I'm interested in trying something new

[latent mauve]

might just be me, but all caps makes me feel like I'm being shouted at, personally.

[fierce vault]

Yeah, I feel like it works for the bugs one maybe, but I'm not sure about the comments section

[upper fractal]

ohh got it

[fierce vault]

Do you think it looks too "aggressive" for the bugs section?

[latent mauve]

Without reviewing your entire JSON (which I don't have time to do right now), I could not possibly answer that question. Load versus EditData is really dependent on the use-case

[fierce vault]

I just want it to be really clear where people should go

[upper fractal]

can u tell me which one needs an editdata and which needs load?

[latent mauve]

I'm of the personal opinion that Load should only be used for assets that do not exist yet, and anything that exists already should use EditData but it really is up to the mod author.

Anything that has a token in its Entries field (token is anything enclosed in {{ }}) requires EditData, or the token will not be parsed before Content Patcher adds it to the game.

[void aspen]

Invalid property identifier character: {. Path 'Changes[2].Entries', line 82, position 1
😭 😭 😭 brooo

I gotta use some proper software and not notepad istg

[torpid sparrow]

notepad++ is what i use

[latent mauve]

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[umbral oar]

hai

[latent mauve]

I use Visual Studio Code, but use whatever works

[meager ginkgo]

I also use vscode I love vscode

[torpid sparrow]

maybe ill switch to vscode i am curious about it

[umbral oar]

i aggree that vscode is goated

[latent mauve]

at least it's pretty clear about the fact that you have a stray { there

[void aspen]

he hates this first bracket which doesnt look stray

[umbral oar]

oh you are busy, bye

[latent mauve]

Usually that means you missed a comma

If you have a question @umbral oar , speak up!

[upper fractal]

alright i think i got it,then i guess most of the things in my json need editdata

[void aspen]

I didnt close the previous one, its okay now

[latent mauve]

Don't worry about interrupting the conversation, it's the only way you'll get a word in.

[void aspen]

LOOK AT THAT

it works yay

[latent mauve]

Congrats!

[torpid sparrow]

only 13 energy though

[cold raft]

Yay! Love when it does what it should!

[torpid sparrow]

jack it up

[void aspen]

ill edit those up now yeah

[meager ginkgo]

50000 energy

[latent mauve]

It's in the game now, that's the hard part down. 😛

[torpid sparrow]

398473898394 energy

[void aspen]

just pasted everything that joja cola had

[meager ginkgo]

adhd modifier for farmer makes monster give -40 energy instead

[void aspen]

can i make my own item type I hate how its trash

and not food or like drink

[torpid sparrow]

yeah

u can change the tags, the category, etc

[void aspen]

I will have 64 monsters and each gives random buffs or debuffs yeah

I dont see the property that edits the energy and hp amount it gives

is it hardcoded

[tall inlet]

Is there any good tool to check compatibility for schedules without watching your character at every point during the day for the full year? I'd built a schedule but upon reviewing it I'm questioning myself

Excluding festivals and events

[verbal glacier]

Edibility is what you need to adjust I think

[void aspen]

hm

[meager ginkgo]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/19305 this maybe?

along with the cheats menu mod to set specific days quickly

[tall inlet]

Fair. I do have both downloaded and in game.

[void aspen]

didnt change anything sadly

thanks for a suggestion

[tall inlet]

Seems kind of still trial and error focused however.

[latent mauve]

Make sure you're grabbing a new Monster! It won't change any still in your inventory

[void aspen]

ohh'

right

category doesnt change till I get new ones too

lets see

yuss

tysm yall

would be cool to give energy but take hp tho

drinking more than two could make farmer have a heart attack or something

[meager ginkgo]

loll

[modest dagger]

i got so scared i thought that was the strange capsule like why are you drinking the alien water wtf

[lucid iron]

Iirc that's a spacecore feature

[void aspen]

arr

my next mod gotta use additional frameworks sooner or later

[ornate drift]

at what point should i be confident to release my mod

[half tangle]

when I think I've finished, I give myself about 24 hours and that's generally worked (this is complicated by the mod fest if that's relevant to you since that ends in about 26 hours, iirc)

you can always post updates

[latent mauve]

I'm not bothered with the modfest, because it seems kind of unfairly weighted to mods that came out earlier in the period and had more time to accumulate downloads, LOL

I'll release my mods when they're ready

[old edge]

Can’t seem to figure out decoratable location maps I have to add the walls and floors tile sheet right?

[torpid sparrow]

do u mean for modfest or in general bc i have different thoughts for each

[latent mauve]

What area are you trying to make decoratable? Not all of the vanilla building interiors support it, IIRC

[ornate drift]

in general idk what modfest is

[latent mauve]

Also I can actually point people to my bathroom renovation mod instead of referencing the WIP of it for custom walls and floors / decorating custom home renovations now. xD

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/43387

[torpid sparrow]

contest to celebrate 10 yeara nniversary

[ornate drift]

ohhh yeah im not involved in that

[torpid sparrow]

in general i feel like releasing is fine when there's enough content to tide ur players over to whatever update ur doing next

[latent mauve]

(Please feel free to dissect the bathroom renovation mod to learn how custom home/farmhouse renovations work, it was a lot of effort to figure out)

[torpid sparrow]

so a basic set of schedules, dialogue, festival attendance, and some heart events

maybe 3 or 4 events

[stuck marlin]

hello, i just made a mod, and i would like to add it to the showcase channel, but i'm unsure if i can or how to do so

[void aspen]

Just share a nexus link here or in #modded-stardew with a brief description of what your mod does!
Someone with the proper role will showcase it for you (not me )

[stuck marlin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/44187
Grandpa's old buildings. They are broken and need to be repaired before you can use them.
Place them instantly for free, then upgrade them into their vanilla versions.
Plan your farm, or add immersion.

[stuck marlin]

thanks :)

[latent mauve]

I got it. 🙂

[stuck marlin]

thank you!

[gaunt heath]

That's really cool!

[stuck marlin]

it's my first mod, so i didn't know what to do haha

[hard fern]

Oh cool, buildings to match the broken farmhouse

[autumn ivy]

i need to remake my sprinkler upgrader mod.... uses JA so i guess is should convert them

[void aspen]

We need a sprinkler that waters one tile

And the next one that does two

And then the one that waters one random tile in a radius lmao

😭

[autumn ivy]

Whaaaa

[latent mauve]

challenge mode sprinklers? LOL

just make them an irrigation channel item instead at that point

(it would probably be annoying to make, but a sprinkler that accidentally oversaturated the ground so that it functioned like the water retaining soil for an extra day would be funny)

It would also likely only come up if the sprinkler was removed after, because you wouldn't be able to tell if it watered that spot every day anyway.

[wispy bramble]

overwatering should slow plant growth /s

[ornate drift]

does my bakery only being open 4 times a week sound bad

[void aspen]

4/3 is something id kill for

[ornate drift]

cuz i want my bear to visit the resort, beach, and library

[void aspen]

So yeah it's okay

[ornate drift]

hooray

Sun: Open
Mon: Closed
Tue: Open
Wed: Open
Thu: Closed
Fri: Open
Sat: Closed

also for the yawning animation, i want him to yawn only once and then stand there for the rest of the schedule

like

after he yawns he goes back to his idle pose

how do i do that

[upper fractal]

okay so i somehow managed to make my npc sucessfully load into the game.However when i load my game file she doesnt appear in neither relationships or the map (i have the mod that shows vanilla npc and customized ones and yet she doesnt appear in nowhere) i dont know what to do

[torpid sparrow]

is she socializable

[upper fractal]

i think i did make her socializable.just in case,how do i make the npc to be socializable?

[torpid sparrow]

its something you can set when u make the character

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data

CanSocialize

although i guess its true by default

hmm

[torpid sparrow]

does she have gift tastes

[upper fractal]

yup she does

[upper fractal]

where exactly should i be putting all of that?

[torpid sparrow]

r u able to find her

[torpid sparrow]

scroll down for an example!

[upper fractal]

she doesnt appear anywhere,i cant find her in the location she's supposed to be...

[ornate drift]

the archaeology house closes at 4 PM right?

so i should make my bear leave at 1600

or 1500

[torpid sparrow]

but ur sure she exists?

[upper fractal]

yup,i just fixed it by adding the home,birthday and romenceable stuff.Thanks alot!

[torpid sparrow]

ah great!

[upper fractal]

seems like everytime i fix an issue another one comes up,just shoot in the foot atp.Now the npc neither moves or talks

[autumn tide]

welp-

[calm nebula]

That's normal. Just keep trucking

[upper fractal]

i feel like stardew valley intently makes me get all happy and excited thinking i fixed the problem only to shoot me seventeen times

[autumn tide]

tis a labor of spite

[upper fractal]

[ornate drift]

having to come up with new schedules each day is annoying

i dont like duping schedule days

[hard fern]

How do i make fish jump out the water in an event

[autumn tide]

I love how ppl here are like
"wow I hate that I have to make the sistine chapel"
"actually we're just looking for a backyard shed-"
"I HATE THAT I HAVE TO MAKE THE SISTINE CHAPEL"

[ornate drift]

do i HAVE to finish the entire schedule before i can test it?

[royal stump]

probably with some custom temporaryAnimatedSprite commands and playSound, I guess?
but if there's some existing event you're basing that on, you can check how it's handled in that

[hard fern]

Ugh claude now i have to make the sistine chapel

[autumn tide]

aww :(

sucks that you have no alternative :(

[hard fern]

Im not sure where to even look for an existing event that does something like that

[royal stump]

not exactly; the bare minimum schedule just can be a "spring" entry
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Schedule

[royal stump]

I'm not aware of any offhand, it just sounded like you were referring to one good luck with the magic parameters

[hard fern]

[autumn tide]

i think mods might be the best place to look

[royal stump]

also you'd probably want to use acceleration in the case of a fish, since it'd probably arc or move up then down in a jump
which still says [TODO: document what this does] on the wiki

[hard fern]

Maybe i can fudge it by making a fake invisible fish npc who will jump and then become invisible again

[royal stump]

(it changes the movement speed over time iirc, but I've only fiddled with it in C# briefly)

just having a pre-baked animation would probably work with less argument confusion

[void aspen]

Is it possible to make an object texture be animated

[lucid iron]

Yeah you can use spacecore to animate any texture

[void aspen]

Spacecore again I see

Ty

[ornate drift]

oh

did i forget to add the { before Changes

[hard fern]

time to turn a chub into an npc because that was the only fish i found that spawns in the river during any season..

[royal stump]

{} around the whole thing, basically; see the example here
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-include.md#overview

[gaunt heath]

You must understand, if I don't make the Sistine Chapel I will Literally Explode

💥

[royal stump]

wait, wrong link, one sec

[autumn tide]

oh heavens! /silly

[royal stump]

alright, edited, nvm the format part, I was misreading

[autumn tide]

I say, with a goal of writing 600+ lines of dialog

wait was my template lemme see..

[gaunt heath]

I can't believe that the Powers That Be are literally forcing you to write 600+ lines of dialogue about the Sistine Chapel

[autumn tide]

dammit i gotta hurry up

ikr it sucks

..also re-wrote my whole mod twice already and I'm thinking about re-writing it again

[near imp]

friend why

[autumn tide]

(said mod being a krobus and dwarf expansion I've been working on since august and have no plans to release)

the code is so clunky

[hard fern]

so, for the sprite width and height is it the total size of the spritesheet?

[autumn tide]

it's the first mod I started so it's built terribly-

[patent lance]

New quote added by chu2.718281828459045235360287471 as #7792 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1486502296090181764)

[void aspen]

My notepad-edited 400-lines no indents content json living it's best rn

[autumn tide]

I have an idea...

[near imp]

crime

[void aspen]

Well it's not 400 lines yet! But it will be

I gotta add 30 more objects with ton of properties

[ornate drift]

IT ACTIVATED THE WRONG ANIMATION 😭

[void aspen]

😨

Did you use the right index

[void aspen]

Or is it not index based

[ornate drift]

is it not 17/17/17

[void aspen]

17 is the index for the surprised face

[verbal glacier]

16

[void aspen]

It seems

[ornate drift]

but

but doesnt it count the walking animations
4 x 4 16

[verbal glacier]

You start with 0 then 4 is the row below

[ornate drift]

....oh

[fierce vault]

even now with the time almost being up on the contest, I'm getting distracted with something not important detail-wise in the mod I'm making

[royal stump]

those should be the size of each individual sprite

[void aspen]

Indexing starts from 0 yeah

If that's the issue

[hard fern]

Ah i see

[ornate drift]

okay yeah it prob fucked all animations rn 😭

[whole prism]

usually best to, especially havicng a clean format for future compat editions and i18n editions

[autumn tide]

thank you for enabling me lucy

[whole prism]

i

[ornate trellis]

which one is it, claude

[whole prism]

have never heard of this phrase before

but, your welcome!

[fierce vault]

I need clean formatting for myself

[whole prism]

i wish i could be more of service : (

[autumn tide]

...the big krobus and dwarf one that I've already rewritten twice

[ornate trellis]

asking for a friend

[whole prism]

Hey! If it makes you feel better, I rewrote my desktop app 4 times! Because I learned very very fast!

[ornate trellis]

[autumn tide]

uhm, my ..friend's big krobus and dwarf one that they've already rewritten twice

[whole prism]

But before you did rewrite

You still owe me a fishi : (

Im kidding

if u ever need help for ur mod lemme know~!

[ornate trellis]

fishi?

[autumn tide]

thanks :)

[whole prism]

fishie = fishi = a singular, fish

[ornate trellis]

oh i know

i wanna know more

[whole prism]

a fish sprite lol

[ornate trellis]

i love fishies

[whole prism]

:0 weally?

oh gosh

[ornate trellis]

thats why i cant making more for my mod

[whole prism]

i just saw ur profile, ur like legendary sprite maker

lol any artwork i do is pathetic compared to urs, idk how urs so gooood

[ornate trellis]

cant stop

i jsut ate a word in my sentence wahh

[whole prism]

well if u cant stop then u must make fishie sprite for ur own mod!

[autumn tide]

..an interesting turn of phrase

[ornate trellis]

every time i thought my art is ass i continued drawing anyway and here i am

[whole prism]

I understand light sources and angles

thats all I got haha

[ornate trellis]

if cant continue out of passion, continue out of spite

[autumn tide]

also love the new user void

art is a labor of spite

[torpid sparrow]

my doors work they just are transparent

did i miss something (yes)

[ornate drift]

the silly

[ornate trellis]

sorry, I am allergic to doors so i cannot help

[ornate drift]

internal npc name?

[torpid sparrow]

nope

it works

its just translucent

[hard fern]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[ornate drift]

uhhh i fixed this issue before hold on

did you add map property

[torpid sparrow]

yes

[ornate drift]

on buildings on the lower half?

[torpid sparrow]

oh wait i added it to the wrong sheet

[ornate trellis]

i always wanted to reel in a shadow

[torpid sparrow]

lmfao

[ornate drift]

😭

[whole prism]

I sent u a dm! check whwnever u got time <33

[ornate drift]

mwehehehehe

[gaunt heath]

Ghost dooooors

👻

[ornate trellis]

oh i dont really do dms outside of friends, if you need something you can just ping me here or drop by in my thread

(thats why i mention not accepting dms in my profile, i just dont like private messaging lol)

[whole prism]

oohhh

[steep viper]

nyapu portraits are so cute but such a hard style to replicate

[steep viper]

thats a mood, idk why but dms make me feel claustrophobic

[void aspen]

On which layers does a natural tree renders?

[ornate drift]

YAYYYY

he sleep

[void aspen]

Is it building for a stump and then front for anything else or something else?

[whole prism]

i was gonna ask, if ur ever really bored and wanna contribute to anything, I'm working on making some legendary sprites (my fish mod never has legendaries even tho 30+ fish, its the Aquatic Sea Fish mod), I've been working on some, but I would absolutely love any help possible, even if u wanted to make any kind of fish/sprite for the mod

[void aspen]

I wonder if it's possible to recreate the semi opaque thing trees do when you walk behind them

[ornate trellis]

for me its probs more got to do with my anxiety lol being in public chat makes me feel less put on the spot to answer and stuff also i can vistually hide behind someone

[dire kestrel]

they possess such mastery over colors

[steep viper]

they really do its wizardry

[autumn tide]

WITTCHHHCRAAAAAFT

[void aspen]

Not the first time I hear this word today

[dire kestrel]

i've (luckily) never had to emulate that part of their style, just taking from what's already out there. still harsh work

[autumn tide]

(that's all I gotta say I'm gonna go return to the dumb shit I was doing before)

[hard fern]

My fish aint fishing 😔

playSound dropItemInWater/addTemporaryActor {{ModId}}_TempFish 16 32 69 54 1 false Character/jump {{ModId}}_TempFish 12/playSound dropItemInWater/warp {{ModId}}_TempFish 1000 1000
this is the only thing that acts funny 🤔 hmm am i even doing all of this correctly

[brave fable]

no event does this 🙂‍↕️ you could try fooling around with the new tas event command parameters in the 1.6.16 alpha with the motion + acceleration values to line up with your animation interval

[hard fern]

😭 wow that's great i want to do something that's never been done before

[ornate trellis]

maybe at some point, i do have my hands full with my expansion but maybe when im taking a lil break from it in between. then i usually occupy myself with some other spriting cuz ofc even when i say i take a break i cant sit still

[hard fern]

im truly a fish pioneer

[brave fable]

it's been done in the sense that if someone can dig up the fishfrenzy code you've got a working tas fish jump, but not as an event command

[steep viper]

a fishioneer

[whole prism]

okii! remember whenever u do get to that point (lot of ppl forget, me including), also what expansion? I am really interested cause I might play it : )

[torpid sparrow]

time to write quests. boo.

[brave fable]

you'd need to try and translate the c# behaviour into the event command params if possible

[whole prism]

poo..

[hard fern]

there isn't an emote that can sufficiently convey the emotions im feeling right now

this will do

[ornate trellis]

it's my fishmonger mod. its first version is currently on nexus as a single NPC but I am adding a lot of new stuff to it, turning it into an expansion. its currently in beta basically so people can playtest it https://github.com/VoidWitchCult/The-Fishmonger--Whispers-of-the-Oceans-Heart/tree/main

[hard fern]

making-fish-general

[ornate trellis]

got a good bunch of fish in that expansion, hehe

[hard fern]

maybe once 1.6.16 is officially out i can implement Real Immersive Fish Jumping into my event

[void aspen]

Omggg I just noticed I have so many dls

[hard fern]

people yearn for the bath

[brave fable]

i mean it's only a little because you're ideally just taking something like ```cs
new TemporaryAnimatedSprite(sprite, spriteBounds, 1, 1800, 0, tile, false, false) { motion = new Vector2(0, -16), acceleration = new Vector2(0, 1) }

and turning it into something like ```json
temporaryAnimatedSprite LooseSprites\\FunnyFish x y width height 1 1800 0 x y false false motion 0 -16 acceleration 0 1

didn't actually read the params so this is not an accurate representation and should not be used as reference

[gaunt heath]

God I need to finish my huge bathhouse overhaul it's been like three years

[brave fable]

oh right you were making the purple bathhouse. did that never come out

[void aspen]

730 total DLs among the three mods

[hard fern]

sometimes i get ahead of myself with ideas even though i havent even finished one singular mod

[ornate drift]

lowk they should become friends

[brave fable]

ok mod author legend

[void aspen]

I think I should show DLs rather than amount of mods

[ornate drift]

why is elliotts book so fucking huge 😭

[ornate trellis]

its actually one of those bigass picture books that pop up

[gaunt heath]

Employment got me 😔

[steep viper]

oh hell yeah

[brave fable]

understandable enjoy your paycheque* sorry americano slip

[hard fern]

like, im already thinking of terrible and horrible things i can do that will no doubt absolutely destroy compatibility with any mod that changes ginger island, all because i decided i wanted to treat it like an oyster and put a pearl nucleus in it.

[steep viper]

i keep watching the downloads on my mods and getting excited for every new download

yes.. i hope u love them

[gaunt heath]

I've had a bit more breathing room the past few weeks so I've been defeating projects that have been mocking me from beneath the floorboards with their tell-tale hearts. The bathhouse is approaching the front of the line.

[void aspen]

I wonder what are requirements to get a mod creator role hm

Probably something like million mods billions endorsements

[brave fable]

1. Create a mod

[hard fern]

lvl 25, name on the wiki, proof you published a mod

i do not have a million mods nor one billion endorsements XD

[void aspen]

Second thing seems the more complicated

[brave fable]

unfortunately i could never

[uncut viper]

1.5) the mod must follow our rules

[near imp]

they can even be crusty mods from 2021

[modest dagger]

some of us choose to reject cheetoness

[hard fern]

that too

[void aspen]

Are content packs considered mods

[uncut viper]

Yes

[void aspen]

Ooh nice

[hard fern]

my first mod was a crusty mod from 2020

[brave fable]

is it not anymore

[hard fern]

no i went back in time

[near imp]

(still need to update my crusty mods )

[brave fable]

my first mod was a crusty 2019 mod. but now it's a deluxe & beautiful 2019 mod

[hard fern]

(i kinda have an idea for a new crusty mod i can make. but also im hungry)

[steep viper]

everything i make is lowkey crusty

[hard fern]

why can't we have steak in stardew

[near imp]

bug steak

[void aspen]

Wondering how similar HC modding will be to SV

[near imp]

its all we deserve

[hard fern]

thank you i forgot bug meat existed

[steep viper]

mm bug meat

[gaunt heath]

I'd fuck up a bug steak ngl

[brave fable]

interesting. details

[gaunt heath]

I'm willing to hear out the farmer on bug steak

[void aspen]

Ew bugs 😨

[hard fern]

oh perhaps the reason i uh. my fish wasn't working may have been because i accidentally deleted the fish

[near imp]

as one does

[gaunt heath]

The fish is a key component of the fish

[patent lance]

New quote added by kattia369 as #7793 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1486512083636977807)

[ornate drift]

also works hooray

[hard fern]

unfortunately: my fish has blinked out of existence from the moment they were born.

[ornate drift]

why his legs so short 💔

[modest dagger]

r u kidding me

[ornate trellis]

mood

[void aspen]

Why does your npc looks blurry

Blurrier than a farmer

[ornate trellis]

sometimes people want to be blurry

[gaunt heath]

Lower contrast getting more wrecked by compression?

[brave fable]

perchance your tas event command

[ornate drift]

aa makes it look less flat

[near imp]

?

[ornate drift]

anti aliasing

[near imp]

hmm. not sure its having that effect for me

[void aspen]

That's honestly not aa that's just some weird compression (comprehension) artefacts most likely

Discord hates pixel arts

[ornate drift]

oh wait you meant the app

yeah

prob

i cant stream here i probably would show it there instea

d

[hard fern]

holy shit my fish worked but like it kinda glides awkwardly along the water before jumping and vanishing

note to self: do not Move a fish

[void aspen]

Killer fish from stardew valley

[hard fern]

starving

[void aspen]

😨

T9 be like that sometimes

[hard fern]

is there a way to remove a shadow from an temp actor

[ornate drift]

oh i should probably add uhhhhh

interaction tiles in the bakery

only having an interactive shop is boring

[ornate trellis]

has flashbacks when i added 99 strings to my map

[hard fern]

anyways the bulk of my event works. i might just remove the fish jumping because dear god.

[gaunt heath]

Could you fake it with a TAS?

[brave fable]

some would say using an actor is faking it and using a tas is expected

[hard fern]

im getting a lot of use out of the good ol fade to black when i dont have any ideas for what the hell to write

[void aspen]

My go to is Action Jukebox

[gaunt orbit]

that is a delicious font

[void aspen]

also a JojaCola on some vending machine

I'm currently making my own vending machine that gives monsters instead!!

[void aspen]

So far so good

[void aspen]

You can also do something cool with piano keys too

[hard fern]

hm i kinda worry im shoving too much personal writing style in here by using the message command a bunch as a form of narration

[ornate drift]

now that im not working on my mod right now, hmmmm.......

🤔

im thinking of practicing drawing humans

[jaunty shuttle]

What's wrong with your personal writing style?

[hard fern]

too stiff

trying to match the general tone of vanilla's messages is kinda hard.

[void aspen]

Sorry once you start making stardew mods you don't stop anymore

[ornate drift]

no i mean i dont feel like doing coding rn and wanna draw practicing humans

[meager ginkgo]

I have one (1) single line of dialogue this npc is coming along fantastic

[ornate drift]

[void aspen]

[hard fern]

i still wonder what the tbh creature is supposed to be

[ornate drift]

yippeeeeee

also check #making-mods-art im bored

[void aspen]

Just a silly creature

[gaunt heath]

Me

[void aspen]

Okay new mod idea, tbh kitten

[whole prism]

omg..I LOVE THIS

AHH

[autumn tide]

I am

[gaunt orbit]

it is its own thing, also called "autism creature" as popularized by this tumblr post

[void aspen]

There's also adhd creature

[autumn tide]

👀

[gaunt orbit]

yeah and anxiety creature

[void aspen]

And anxiety and bunch of others

Yep

[autumn tide]

(me)

[gaunt orbit]

the adhd creature was called wtf

[void aspen]

I got everything

[gaunt orbit]

dont remember the name of the anxiety creature

[autumn tide]

i am the Variety Pack Of Various Disorders creature

[void aspen]

Adding mental disorders to stardew tomorrow

[hard fern]

It sure is a creature

[autumn tide]

you're gonna make me into an npc?! aww :) /silly

[gaunt orbit]

someone did make a combination tbh/wtf/idk creature

tumblr's search is ass though so I'll probably never be able to find it

[autumn tide]

I really need tumblr tbh I qualify with flying colors

[gaunt orbit]

tumblr is not what it once was but I hate the alternatives more so I'm still there for now

[hard fern]

Tumblr search is genuinely terrible. Never hated looking for things more on there

[gaunt orbit]

in recent years staff has taken to just mass nuking transfem blogs often for no reason, and now there's also a transmasc MRA movement that's somehow gaining momentum.
also the ceo is a pissbaby who throws temper tantrums and stalked someone offsite after personally banning her because of previously mentioned arbitrary blog deletions

and then went on vacation to burning man right after doing that

[hard fern]

What does mra mean

[gaunt orbit]

men's rights activist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men's_rights_movement

[torpid sparrow]

i dont think we can get much more into it but i am grumbling

[hard fern]

I nuked my own tumblr, so to speak, just because i got tired of posting

[gaunt orbit]

yeah sorry didn't mean to get so off topic

[hard fern]

Idk, i might revive it but i wouldn't know what to post there if i did. Mod wips? Who knows.

[jaunty shuttle]

I don't use any social media except Discord and I intend to keep it that way. I get the groups I join, like stardew valley modders, that's all I need

[gaunt orbit]

yeah, discord is the main place I hang out for now, but I'm not super committed to it, especially with all the recent bs

tbh I feel like I'm not that far off from just quitting social media altogether

or maybe just start a forum or something

anyways back to arting. this mod page aint gonna make itself

I will say that nexus's upload form is much better

[autumn tide]

'transmasc MRA'

[meager ginkgo]

how do I make npc dialogue depend on their location?

[autumn tide]

there's schedule dialog, as well as GSQs

[meager ginkgo]

GSQ?

[autumn tide]

[[modding: game state query]]

..crap

[meager ginkgo]

🙈

[autumn tide]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[frosty hull]

Hello, i have question about game on android 1.6.15.1 latest*
currently my SMAPI Launcher on android it not support.
because in this game it's use AOT compile & dll native *.so.
so what should i do?, can i ask android dev to fix this?

[autumn tide]

there we go-

[meager ginkgo]

thanks :3

[autumn tide]

!androidsmapi

[ocean sail]

Android SMAPI

We are not able to provide support if you run into trouble or compatibility issues with Android SMAPI; please use the discord linked on the Android SMAPI github.

IMPORTANT: This is a highly experimental build and may be prone to glitches, bugs, or incompatibilities. Please see the wiki instructions for more information regarding installing the unofficial Android port of SMAPI for Stardew Valley 1.6.

Do not harass mod authors to make Android specific compatibility patches.

To use this command, type !androidsmapi.

[autumn tide]

(YES THANK GOD I REMEMBERED THE COMMAND)

[uncut viper]

That is the android smapi dev

[frosty hull]

@ivory plume Hi, could you contact android dev to fix this?

[ornate trellis]

man, so, smapi keeps telling me

Requested path starting at VoidWitchCult.CP.TheFishmongerNPC_LostIsland_PirateLadHome 7, which does not exist,
over and over for a good while now but I am staring at her schedule and just cant find the issue? can someone stare at my schedule and see if you catch something that i dont https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b49239419ca341169b6bd4acece6dc71

[uncut viper]

As far as I know, AOT on mobile was an intentional choice for some technical reason or another

But I could be misremembering

[autumn tide]

AOT?

[uncut viper]

Ahead-of-time compilation

[frosty hull]

yes, android xamarin they have a AOT feature

i really hat it😆

[autumn tide]

now i have a more specific thing to google LOL

@junimo

...stupid discord

[brittle pasture]

for much better performance I recall

[frosty hull]

ofcourse

[autumn tide]

oh yeah buttons you're a juni so you can delete spam!

[uncut viper]

(Can and already did o7)

[uncut viper]

Iirc it doubled it or something like that

But yeah either way it's not something that would be "fixed" bc it's not something that's broken

[glossy plinth]

Trying to build my mod to get a release package and it's throwing this error:

The mod build package found a game folder at <steam path>\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley, but it doesn't contain the file. If this folder is invalid, delete it and the package will autodetect another game install path.

wait...

I'm an idiot.

Wrong (very old) branch checked out.

[uncut viper]

!log Can you please send the full log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[ornate trellis]

I can, pls dont bonk me for not updating smapi yet, this issue was already happening before new smapi dropped ignore the red schedule issue i already fixed that. its only the piratelad one (and i guess whatever the hell gender male is) https://smapi.io/log/1b2342566c9b4e43af0e391e6b1bf924

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 62 C# mods and 28 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[brittle pasture]

with Cinderbox out I wonder if we should consider mentioning that in the wiki guide if AOT is going to be a future problem

[frosty hull]

maybe i should move to the project Cinderbox

the problem Cinderbox it's about game files, it need PC game files
can't use android game files

[uncut viper]

Oh I see, I was going to ask what the \t7 is but I'm guessing that's a tab character

In your rain schedule

3rd entry from the end, starting at 1800

There's a tab between your location name and the 7 11 2

Rather than a normal space

[ornate trellis]

oh yeah that t thing was a tab, ye i tried getting rid of em all before posting it but i guess i forgot some...

[uncut viper]

That'd be the cause of that spacecore error

Or, well, warning

[ornate trellis]

omg its gone, im freed of this curse, thank you

[tiny zealot]

(C#) hey friends, what is the incantation to edit a list asset (Data/TriggerActions) with SMAPI's content API?
for dictionary assets i typically use AsDictionary but as you might guess that does not apply here

[uncut viper]

GetData<List<TriggerActionData>> I think

[tiny zealot]

i figured it out. it was that

thanks button

[ivory plume]

Hi! I'm not very familiar with the mobile version, so I'm not entirely sure what you want me to ask (e.g. are you asking to disable AOT?). If you can formulate specific questions, I can forward them to the mobile devs.

[frosty hull]

I want the game to be built exactly like the previous version, without any build modifications at all, because I’ve already fixed the game code and the lib files are very sensitive.
If that’s possible, I’d really appreciate it.

Honestly, I don’t really understand why AOT is required, since you know it prevents modifying DLLs or using libraries like Harmony for patching.

[ivory plume]

Sure, I'll forward the question. (Unfortunately vanilla has priority though; we try to support mods whenever possible, but not if it degrades the experience for vanilla players. In this case, I think some players get significantly worse performance on mobile without AOT.)

[uncut oriole]

I'll welcome you with open arms.

[cold wolf]

Hi, does anyone know if we're using Pathpart correctly?

This is my first time using it

[uncut viper]

Can you give an example of what you're trying to get the FromFile to look like after the tokens have been replaced?

Getting the -1st part of {{Target}} is just going to be the same as {{TargetWithoutPath}}

[cold wolf]

Nope, if we use 1 it's the same as {{TargetWithoutPath}}

[uncut viper]

No. -1 goes from the right. If you have the path MVSO/Portraits/Jas_SpiritsEve, the -1st part is Jas_SpiritsEve

[gaunt orbit]

that is the android smapi dev lol

[uncut viper]

Which is the same as {{TargetWithoutPath}}

The 1st index would be MVSO

[orchid glade]

What we want is Portraits

[uncut viper]

(Sorry, the 0th index would be MVSO)

[orchid glade]

I think we want index 1, but apparently that didn't work

[uncut viper]

If you want portraits then that would be index 1 or index -2

[orchid glade]

But the syntax using the index number like that is right? Galaxy can you share the error you got with index 1?

[autumn tide]

-# I'm great at interpreting stuff
-# literally took me until now to realize GOD my brain is just gelatin

[cold wolf]

[Content Patcher] Patch error: More Vanilla Seasonal Outfits - Jas Edition > Include assets/Jas/Jas.json > Load Spirits Eve Outfit (MVSO/Portraits/Jas_SpiritsEve) has a FromFile which matches non-existent file 'assets\Jas\Jas_SpiritsEve\Jas_SpiritsEve_Butterfly.png'.

[uncut viper]

Yes, you can use the index number like that

[cold wolf]

That's with 1

[uncut viper]

Well, do you have a file like that?

Inside that specific folder?

[orchid glade]

No, but why is it looking there?

[uncut viper]

Are you sure you actually saved it after changing it from -1?

[orchid glade]

Shouldn't it be looking for assets\Jas\Portraits\Jas_SpiritsEve_Butterfly.png?

[cold wolf]

Yes... I don't have the file open.

[uncut viper]

Or saved it if you changed the target

Are you editing the file in your mod folder and not one in a development copy?

[cold wolf]

It's a copy; the working mod is still in a secure folder.

[uncut viper]

I mean are you sure you're editing the copy that is actually being used when SMAPI launches the game

[cold wolf]

I assure you it's set to 1, it gives that error

[orchid glade]

Okay I'm gonna try run it @cold wolf , this is so perplexing.

[cold wolf]

It's in the mods folder... I don't know what else needs to be done. 😅

[ivory plume]

That seems to be a bug in Content Patcher. It accepts either an enum value (like FileName) or numeric index, but it's incorrectly parsing numeric indexes as the enum. I'll fix that in the upcoming Content Patcher 2.9.2; sorry about that!

[uncut viper]

Fwiw when I went to test just now with the example in the docs, it was also telling me -1 was not valid

Though I imagine that's due to the same underlying bug

[ivory plume]

Yep.

[cold wolf]

Thanks! Bezajel and I were cracking up. 😅

[uncut viper]

(apologies as well for going through the likely annoying common debug stuff re: "are you editing the right file/is it the right folder/did you save/etc stuff. It's a lot more common for those to be peoples issues than it is for there to be a bug with CP)

[cold wolf]

I don't know if this will help, but if we entered -1 or -3, this happened.

[ivory plume]

Yep, it's due to the same issue.

[orchid glade]

OMG okay thanks for the info we were going crazy

[cold wolf]

[ivory plume]

In the next version:

[lucid iron]

can u make an instance of a public class with no public constructors

[tall inlet]

Just as a small observation after working most of today on my mod… doing the dialogue is a lot more work than I’d originally anticipated.

[lucid iron]

the context is that i want to do new StardewModdingAPI.Translation in me mod

i can ofc just publicize it

[uncut viper]

Have you tried Activator.CreateInstance()

[lucid iron]

i guess i could do that yea

forgor that existed

[uncut viper]

Don't know if it'll complain about access but shrugs

Worth a shot

[lucid iron]

but hrm i am having second thoughts rn

[lucid iron]

the reason behind this is that i was thinking of making Game1.content.LoadString work with the smapi's translation stuff

but often u want a {0} in LoadString stuff and a {{thing}} in smapi translation so this is maybe a bad idea

[uncut viper]

Or both!

[lucid iron]

maybe what i should do instead is come here and add Translation? LoadStringTranslation and such
https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/src/SMAPI/Framework/ContentManagers/BaseContentManager.cs

[uncut viper]

I'm unsure what the benefit/usecase is

[lucid iron]

the general benefit is so that i can have all this stuff https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/38bb6704e96dd8feb813c6282b3bc4f1be504bb8/src/SMAPI/Translation.cs#L133

if u mean "why in SMAPI instead of ur mod" that just feels less jank

[uncut viper]

But LoadString would be for stuff in the pipeline, no?

You'd be completely unable to edit these things with a Content Patcher mod

[lucid iron]

well if i made LoadStringTranslation i would be able to

[uncut viper]

Unless you removed the Tokens entirely, in which case whats the point

You can't put a token in the string with CP

Because it will treat it as one of its own tokens

[lucid iron]

its not about content mods editing it i just want to put in tokens myself

[uncut viper]

Why not just use LoadString then and do the usual string.format

[lucid iron]

well i do that rn

is just niche want to unify the systems

[lucid iron]

ah i see what u mean by this, that does succ

good thing composer will be compatible /lh

[uncut viper]

why would composer be

[lucid iron]

by using a different token syntax that isnt {{ }} ofc

[uncut viper]

Do you have any good candidates for what symbol to use instead that aren't already taken

[lucid iron]

『ModId』

[uncut viper]

im sure people would love to type that constantly

[hard fern]

Everyone has that on their keyboard, yes ofc

[lucid iron]

slightly more serious answer what if php

$modId

or $modid$

[uncut viper]

Taken

Dialogue syntax

[lucid iron]

darn

although it doesn't matter does it

[uncut viper]

[[ ]] is also taken by tokenizable strings

[lucid iron]

you resolve with your lexer ahead of everything

[uncut viper]

but if someone writes $dfkgjh how do I know if they typo'd a composer token or if some other mod added a valid $dfkgjh dialogue command

[lucid iron]

one of the quirks of content patcher is that everything is doing a string interpolation sorta

idk what u had in mind file format wise but most languages only do a string interpolation in specific context

[uncut viper]

i didnt have too much in mind at all i was still in the "throwing stuff at a wall" phase when i stopped for modfest
but like dialogue would definitely be at least one of those contexts

[lucid iron]

yea so lets say we do go with $modid i'd do it like f strings probably

f"{$modId} sup $thang" // "chu.Mod sup $thang"
"{$modId} sup" // "{$modId} sup"

[uncut viper]

but how would someone do that in json

[lucid iron]

tho ig the $ is extraneous hrm

[uncut viper]

they cant put an f in front of their string

[lucid iron]

thats why i prefix with idk what u had in mind file format wise

[uncut viper]

Even though I don't expect Composer to actually really see use I was still approaching it from the hypothetical viewpoint it could be
And with that I was personally considering that json would still be the most practical choice because of its prevalance in sdv modding

[lucid iron]

i wonder if newtonsoft would let u make f"thing" legal (or other similar extended syntax)

[uncut viper]

I suppose I could technically make my own format that was Button's Json and then make my own newtonsoft variant for it. that sounds practical and easy

I could call it bson, I'm sure that name is available

[uncut viper]

I'd be surprised but tbh I wouldn't even know where in newtonsoft to look to check

Newtonsoft does read comments and havea JToken.Comment enum. Maybe I could hijack comments and give them functional use. Surely this is not a terrible idea

(though I was actually unable to figure out how to do that last time I did seriously try to read a comment, so I dunno)

[eager tree]

Could someone help me? I'm trying to add an animation to the farm house of ginger Island, but it's not working

` "LogName": "BackedPotatoes.CrystalIsland_CabinAnimation",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides",
"Entries": {
"BackedPotatoes.CrystalIsland_CabinAnimation":
{
"TargetTexture": "Maps/island_tilesheet_1",
"TargetRect": {
"X": 112,
"Y": 496,
"Width": 112,
"Height": 144
},
"SourceTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: assets\Maps\Cabin\house_animation.png}}:0..19@6"
}

        },
        "When": {
            "Island Farm's House": true
        }, `

[zealous owl]

Hi there! I'm hoping someone can help me with a dungeon design issue. Despite checking my dungeon against others (Mostly SnS) I can't seem to find what I'm doing wrong. I keep getting only the error of "Failed to find dungeon data with ID...".
I can include SMAPI log and any relevant code if needed

[lucid iron]

you can't do this because it's a map

do EditMap instead of spacecore

[eager tree]

oh thank you

[zealous owl]

There's also a "failed converting entry to the expected type 'SpaceCore.Dungeons.DungeonData':" warning earlier in the SMAPI log, which may be a part of it?

[uncut viper]

You'll need to provide both your log and your json for people to look at

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[uncut viper]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[ivory plume]

Hi! We discussed a bit internally, and I have some answers for you.

We already had AOT enabled in previous versions, since that noticeably improves performance even on mid-tier devices. The main difference in 1.6.15.1 is that we needed to update from .NET 8 to .NET 9 in order to support Android SDK 35 (Android 15). That in turn changes how the DLLs are stored; instead of being in one shared platform-independent folder, the blobs were moved into the /lib folder with valid ELF .so files.

Switching back to the old build method is hard no (since the change is required by Google), but we're open to discussing ways to support SMAPI with the new version.

In particular, all the other architectures (ARM32, x86, and x86_64) have non-AOT blob files in their respective /lib folder, but we're not sure what's inside the ARM64 blob file (e.g. whether it's stripped down or fully useable IL). If you're interested, we could provide you privately with a non-AOT APK of the new .NET 9 version of the game. That would let you see if your previous approach will still work with the .NET 9 packaging changes, and let you use the .so files for the non-AOT loaders like before. If the ARM64 blob file is useable, theoretically those loaders should let you run non-AOT while vanilla players continue using AOT (like you were doing in 1.6.15).

[zealous owl]

🤦‍♀️ Nevermind, solved that issue and now I have several others to deal with. I will return at some point, I am sure!

[uncut viper]

(I had no idea mobile SDV was on a higher .NET version. Maybe it is better to mod on there... )

[frosty hull]

.NET9?, so that is need to rewrite hamony patcher for android .net9 again 😫

[frosty hull]

thanks for feedback
where can i get the game apk with disable AOT?
could you send to me?

[ivory plume]

I can't build the APK myself, but I'll DM you a copy as soon as I get one. (That probably won't be today though, since it's late for our mobile devs.)

[meager ginkgo]

is there a way to make my NPC hate any gift that contains fish? whether it be cooking ingredients or crafting(?) other than doing them manually

[ornate locust]

I wish

[meager ginkgo]

alas

[hard fern]

There's a food_seafood tag but ur kinda sol if modded recipes neglect to use it

[meager ginkgo]

oh ok I'll see if I can use that

[uncut oriole]

The IL is not stripped and is usable. @frosty hull, I have a .NET 9.0 version of Harmony I compiled for my STS2Launcher along with the patched Mono runtime that's needed. I forked your SMAPI and SMAPILoader earlier and have both running on the new update. I'll shoot you a DM.

[ivory plume]

Do you still need the APK in that case? (I can still send it just in case if you're not sure yet.)

[uncut oriole]

I don't need it. I'm in game and everything is running fine. I'm not sure what a non-AOT'd APK would do since NRT can't legally distribute the SDV files. 🤔

[meager ginkgo]

is there a better way to look at/edit gift tastes? it's just a bunch of numbers and words in a single string lol

[uncut viper]

That's how a gift taste is formatted

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Gift_taste_data

[ivory plume]

I'm not a mobile dev myself. But if you already have everything needed to update SMAPI on Android, that sounds great.

[meager ginkgo]

vscode doesn't like my attempts at multilining

[uncut viper]

I don't think normal json allows it, so that makes sense. You can change the language association to .jsonc or .jsonl or .json5 (whichever one you like/it supports) and it should allow it.

[meager ginkgo]

oh alright thx, I just gotta not forget to change it back after lol

[uncut viper]

That said I'm not totally 100% sure if the game handles a bit of extra whitespace around the slashes correctly or not if you don't un-multiline it when you're done

I'm not sure it doesn't handle it but I'm just not sure if it does.

[meager ginkgo]

I'll be sure to un multiline after, I just need it to be readable while I edit it

[uncut oriole]

I think we'll be all good - we can extract the IL at runtime from the official APK. I'll shoot him over some documentation and source code to get the Android SMAPI back up and running ASAP.

[old edge]

Ok but the mod I am trying to make decoratable is using the mine_dark tilsheet I tried a trick using back 2 layer for the mine tilesheets and below I have the walls and floors tilesheet I added the type in data locations as well

[fierce vault]

I'm feeling pretty tired of working on this mod. I really wish I hadn't pushed off some of the most important parts until the last day 😅

(important plot-wise. I'd die if I also hadn't figured out most of the coding stuff earlier too)

[uncut viper]

You got this 🫡

[fierce vault]

thank you button!

[latent mauve]

Friends, I know it's possible for shirts, but is there a way to make it so that only a specific section of pants are dyeable? The shirt sheet has things laid out differently.

for context, this is what I'm working on (dyeable dino pants):

I want to try to make it so the spikes are a consistent color and only the rest of the fabric is dyed.

[fierce vault]

I can be such a mess. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to put every kind of prototype dialogue in one file. Events, letters...bad lines of dialogue and duplicates of things that I won't add... it's all there

uh, on second thought maybe I won't inlude the png. It's very blurry, but full of spoilers if anyone tried hard enough lol

[fierce vault]

I think I might have just written a decent cutscene in a couple of hours! Probably time to code it in.

[floral stream]

is it normal for a translation mod to replace the default.json file in i18n with one for the language they're translating to?

[half tangle]

looks like a definite no. The draw method for the farmer draws the shirt (possibly dyed) and then it draws a dyed portion in addition to that, but it only does one draw for the pants

Not that I know of. Translation mods should usually just include a .json file for their respective language

[floral stream]

maybe with fashion sense

[half tangle]

like a zh.json rather than the default.json. That said, a mod can have a default.json that is not English and then provide a en.json for English users

(of course I can't find docs saying that... going from memory here)

[floral stream]

yeah its a chinese translation, and they uploaded 20 mins before i did an update with chinese translations and i only saw it after

[uncut viper]

(you're correct, default need not be English. It used to be before last year though as they're used to be a bug with it in SMAPI, so older translations may still have holdovers from that)

[half tangle]

yeah, that bug fix was what I was remembering, but that's true that older translations and older practices may linger

[uncut viper]

It would only be if you wanted to translate, say, an originally Chinese mod into English though and not the other way around, so I can't think of a reason for a new cn translator to do it besides just not being aware

[half tangle]

A translation mod should only include their respective i18n file, though, and not the rest of the mod (without permission). If they're uploading a default.json in Chinese for a mod written in English, they just may not be aware of current practices

[floral stream]

the thing is i looked at their other mods and its a zh.json file

[hard fern]

Maybe they.. forgor

Idk

[uncut viper]

Sounds plausible to me. Edit the default.json directly, forget to rename it, zip it and ship it

[half tangle]

Yeah, forgetting seems plausible to me in this case, too

[floral stream]

yea probably

[inland rain]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/44244

[tranquil olive]

should I wait for the Files tab to have a 1 by it or is this ready for publishing..? 😅

[vale holly]

it should show up in a few minutes

[tranquil olive]

ah okay, thank you

[old edge]

does setting a room with wallId does it make the player able to set wallpapers there or something?

[fierce vault]

I keep getting errors with this new event... is there anything obviously wrong here?```{
"LogName": "Jack's Goodbye",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Events/BusStop",
"Entries": {
"parcy.jack_goodbye/Season Winter/DayOfMonth 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28/NPCVisible {{ModID}}_Jack/": "
continue/
27 20/
farmer 24 22 0 {{ModID}}_Jack 27 18 2/
skippable/
speak {{ModID}}_Jack"@..."/

            end
            "
        }
    }```

[urban patrol]

you should specify the error or better yet provide a log

[fierce vault]

Sure, sure

I'll restart my game since it's been running for a while and grab the log

Here's the log https://smapi.io/log/41882e8407ed4a049e72e30ef88cb636

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.6.1, with 19 C# mods and 6 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[fierce vault]

I've been checking some of the lines it's listed, and they don't seem to make sense

[fierce vault]

some of the lines are actually pointing to my other event, which runs fine when I get rid of this second event

Idk what to make of it

OH

wait!

oh

nevermind

[hard fern]

Let me guess, it didn't work?

[fierce vault]

I added a needed space herespeak {{ModID}}_Jack \"@...\"/ but it didn't fix the red

I don't get it, what could possibly be wrong with this little event?

[hard fern]

Could you share the full Jason for the event

[fierce vault]

I did, right here

The other event is good

and is *very * large

[hard fern]

So which line is line 176

[fierce vault]

the top { in the event I just shared...

I do not understand these "line" errors

[devout otter]

Something is wrong on line 175, most likely.

[hard fern]

Seeing the whole json would at least make it easier to tell where exactly the problem is

[fierce vault]

love that we're all wondering what's wrong with Jason behind his back btw /jk

I'll check line 175 and then see what I can do

[devout otter]

It says the { in line 176 is unexpected, which usually means the patch before it is improperly closed. Whether missing a bracket or a comma.

[fierce vault]

oh

I may have just found something

hmm

missing comma on 174, but that didn't fix

oh dear, I just put the json in smapi, and it's a nightmare to read even though it's multilined

I don't know if you guys could even go through it and see issues very well with how it looks

[hard fern]

won't hurt to try

[fierce vault]

well, alright...

very unfortunate, because the line identifiers are all gone, and my comments at the bottom have just been eaten by smapi (removed)

Literally unreadable, and I don't know why it transformed it like that

[hard fern]

probably because the parser doesn't do multiline so it turns everything into a line break command ?

[fierce vault]

oh...

[hard fern]

you're still getting the same error that something is wrong on line 176, right?

[fierce vault]

let me check

oh wait

I don't think there's red this time

[hard fern]

so.. problem fixed? 🤔

[fierce vault]

I'll see if it runs

[hard fern]

fingers crossed

[fierce vault]

uh oh, debug won't parse the command...

could it be because I'm in the wrong season?

debug ebi parcy.jack_goodbye was the command btw

[hard fern]

wdym "won't parse"

does it just not start

[fierce vault]

this was the error:```Failed parsing that command:
ArgumentNullException: Value cannot be null. (Parameter 'key')
at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2.FindValue(TKey key) at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary2.TryGetValue(TKey key, TValue& value)

Something's very wrong

but what?

[hard fern]

[fierce vault]

hmmm

I feel like the issue is not with the event itself

It looks normal

Maybe one of my trigger actions in the content json is broken?

idk

I'm grasping for straws here

I'll try that though

oh

hold on here

let's see if it runs now

nvm

yeah, no errors when I patch the mod again, but debug ebi will not work

so odd

the event must be fundamentally broken for that

Know what? I'll try moving it on top of the other one to see if that changes anything

hmmm

I'll try changing the name of the event

maybe the conditions are wrong??

I'll get rid of almost all of them

no... that doesn't seem to be it

Oh....

Interesting

[hard fern]

did you discover something

[fierce vault]

I entered the area, and the event ran

[hard fern]

huh

[fierce vault]

But debug will not run it

same debug error as before

this is drivnig me insane

drivnig

I've lost it

anyway

look at this: debug ebi parcy.jack_goodbye and thisparcy.jack_goodbye/ why would debug not run this???

(the second command is in my event)

[hard fern]

have no idea

[fierce vault]

so, my event will run at least. I guess it will just be a nightmare to test

maybe restarting smapi will fix it....

when it doubt, (after a lot of errors have flooded the console) I've found that smapi sometimes just need a break

[hard fern]

sigh i still have to rewrite the events i just finished making lol.

i just scrapped them

again

[fierce vault]

well, that didn't fix it

all well

this is going to be interesting

in a bad way

WHAT

what!

Ok, this makes no sense!!

Look at these nearly identical events. jack goodbye will not run with debug, but jack hi will???? ```{
"LogName": "Jack's Goodbye",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Events/BusStop",
"Entries": {
"parcy.jack_goodbye/Time 600 1700/Season Spring/DayOfMonth 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28/NPCVisible {{ModID}}_Jack/": "
continue/
27 20/
farmer 24 22 0 {{ModID}}_Jack 27 18 2/
skippable/
speak {{ModID}}_Jack "@..."/

            end
            "
        }
    },

    {
        "LogName": "Jack hi",
        "Action": "EditData",
        "Target": "Data/Events/BusStop",
        "Entries":  {
            "parcy.jack_hi/Time 600 1700/Season Winter/DayOfMonth 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28/NPCVisible {{ModID}}_Jack/": "
            continue/
            27 20/
            farmer 24 22 0 {{ModID}}_Jack 27 18 2/
            skippable/
            speak {{ModID}}_Jack \"@...\"/
            
            end
            "
        }
    }```

insane

I don't understand

I can't be the name? Why would ot be the name??

no

spring must just be a broken month

how?

Ok, I need to test that

[hard fern]

im just going to accept your events are cursed for the time being

[fierce vault]

so the game just hates that I named my event goodbye

[hard fern]

i have no idea why they're doing this either

[fierce vault]

reminds me of the one time the game broke only when I had a tmx named map3

map3 with a couple letters after it was fiiiine though

I just don't get it

[void aspen]

Should I keep this one as a feature or its too op

[hard fern]

sure this looks like a totally 100% fair and balanced food item

[void aspen]

for its price I mean

[fierce vault]

and healthy too

uh

[void aspen]

I have a cheaper more affordable version too

should be good enough

[fierce vault]

I feel like it's too op regardless of being a mil

but it looks like the humor is also the point so...

[void aspen]

so 10 mil mb?

idk how easy it is to get 1 mil nowadays sooo

[fierce vault]

I'm not the right person to ask either

I've never had that much in the bank at once

shocking

I know

Oh, thanks for the help, btw, Dolphin and Forsy

[ornate drift]

Mmmm i need activity ideas.....

🤔

So far i have:
Manny Sit
Manny Yawn
Manny read book

[half tangle]

Random thought: what if you change the log name to "Jack Goodbye" (removing the apostrophe) and try debug ebi with that?

[hard fern]

the log name doesn't do anything

the actual event id is in the start of the event

[fossil osprey]

Have a huge and annoying debuff once it runs out, and then it'll be perfect (like, insta pass out, or the complete opposite of all buffs

[void aspen]

im not sure if its possible to do with what I know

some of my monsters do give negative effects to balance buffs out

[floral stream]

honestly +30 speed would make the game unplayable lol

[void aspen]

thats on people

everything comes for a cost

[hard fern]

would it be possible for an animal to give both wool and milk 🤔

how would that work

[near imp]

(semi helpful-ish answer) yes i have seen this done, dont know the exact details, might involve Extra Animal Config framework? check out milkable ewe's or what its called, the mod that makes sheep milkable

i do know that any users with Better Ranching need to turn off the "prevent failed harvesting" setting, because it interferes with dual produce animals

[hard fern]

ah i seee. i was just thinking about animals and realized it's kinda weird to have duck eggs and duck mayo, alongside goat milk and goat cheese, but sheep are right there and can be milked yet no sheep milk or sheep cheese

[near imp]

Ive become a real fan of the Extra Animal Config framework, it enables adding or editing a lot of features of/for the FarmAnimals that really make sense

[hard fern]

mmm this makes me want to get some brie and a baguette so i can eat it for breakfast again

[near imp]

ive done a few personal edits to some animal mods so that they can now go out in winter etc for species where it makes sense that they would 👌

[hard fern]

nooo not the image i wanted to send

😭

nobody saw anything

i know someone already made a mod to add cheese but like

there's so much cheese

[near imp]

still tempted to make a mod that enables casks in the farmcave, just so i can say im making aged cavecheese

maybe theres already one, idk. not one that lets you put casks anywhere and everywhere including cave though, that wont do

[hard fern]

Im definitely going to have to make a mod that will have a rancher who specializes in dairy products lol. I just like cheese.

Hmm. And ofc specialty products from them that you can't get anywhere else

[near imp]

correction; apparently the mod is called Milkable Sheep, not ewes https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25335

[hard fern]

(you're technically correct anyways XD not like you can milk a ram...)

[near imp]

figured id clarify in case someone later searches for something like this

huh, apparently to age the sheep cheese you need the Custom Cask mod i wonder why, can the casks not be edited with CP like the rest of the vanilla machines?

[hard fern]

casks r cursed kinda

[near imp]

ohh noo some of the worst words to hear in modding chat

[hard fern]

i think the machine rules for it are in the code code and not something u can do through cp 🤔

[near imp]

that does sound cursed

[rain inlet]

is that planned to be un-spaghettid in 1.7?

[hard fern]

dunno

[rain inlet]

i know there's a list on the wiki for backend changes to prepare for in 1.7

[near imp]

wheres that upcoming modding changes tab i know i had at least the one for 1.6.16 open somewhere around here...

[rain inlet]

i just haven't gotten through it bc most of it is meaningless to me

[verbal glacier]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.7

[rain inlet]

"cask" isn't mentioned on the page at all

[verbal glacier]

nor in the 1.6.16 page

[rain inlet]

so i'm guessing it's not being fixed yet

[hard fern]

maybe worth bringing up as a "will this be in the cards someday"

[rain inlet]

i have to imagine it will be done eventually

considering the direction stardew is going

[near imp]

id support it though id understand if they say "thats super spaghetti and would be too much work" as a reply

possibly someone has already asked, too lazy to check rn

[verbal glacier]

the search says no one has mention the word cask in that channel

[near imp]

is dependency creep a real phenomenon or just something im imagining? its not that a dependency itself is a bad thing, more that when you start to accumulate enough mods that each have 1-3 (sometimes more like 5 ) dependencies, i feel like the risk steadily increases of the dependencies each trying to implement their own functionality and at some point some of them are going to overlap and start fighting

feels like it adds to the complexity of making sure youre not installing mods that are likely to conflict, when its harder to get a good sense of what areas of the game the mods and their dependencies are affecting

[hard fern]

i think it can definitely be a problem if you have like. a really long list of dependencies 🤔 people are turned off from downloading things that make them download too many other things

as from like, the purely technical side, idk

though i think "dependency creep" can easily be attributed to scope creep, in the sense of you want to add like 20 thousand features to this mod but you need a lot of dependencies to do it. it might be worth just scaling down the mod a bit if the sheer number of dependencies you need is kinda overshadowing the mod itself

(idk if that makes sense)

[rain inlet]

it's also about kiss though, do you really need that dependency or can you do it in a better way with pre-existing functionality

[hard fern]

yeah, that too

or just change the way you implement the thing

[rain inlet]

and if a dependency breaks or is no longer developed, that's also a huge problem

[near imp]

yeah for sure. im always keeping the "less chefs in the kitchen" rule of thumb in mind.

[royal stump]

tbh, the only dependency conflicts I've seen (in stardew specifically) are when people try to reduce their dependency count & write their own version of the same feature