making-mods-general

[calm nebula]

Just set a mail flag

Or a conversation topic

[fierce vault]

Ok! I'll look into that approach, since I have no idea how I'd make him not giftable for a day

thank you guys

[tranquil olive]

I think I finally got these yellow flowers to stop stacking 🤞

[fierce vault]

my mod page is going to be lacking with all that I have left on my plate lol. At least I'll have a nice thumbnail since I worked on that a few weeks ago

[tranquil olive]

I am still scared of the mod page part- but at least I have some rough words down

[latent mauve]

Yeah, the mod page always takes me a while, LOL

[autumn ivy]

my prismatic tools content patcher remake is coming along.... but clint is asking for copper bars instead of my prismatic bars

[latent mauve]

Did you copy the tools data from one of the pre-existing copper tools?

[autumn ivy]

no... this is what i have

  "ClassName": "WateringCan",
  "Name": "Prismatic Watering Can",
  "DisplayName": "Prismatic Watering Can",
  "Description": "Waters everything. Probably too much.",
  "Texture": "assets/water",
  "SpriteIndex": 42,
  "MenuSpriteIndex": 47,
  "UpgradeLevel": 5,
  "ConventionalUpgradeFrom": "(T)IridiumWateringCan",
  "UpgradeFrom": [
    {
      "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_ITEM Target (T)IridiumWateringCan",
      "Price": 25000,
      "TradeItemId": "(O)BluPenDragon.PrismaticBar",
      "TradeItemCount": 5
    }
  ],
  "CanBeLostOnDeath": false
}```

[latent mauve]

Ah! ConventionalUpgradeFrom only has UpgradeLevel values 1-4, so it's likely looping back to 1

What happens if you don't include ConventionalUpgradeFrom?

[brittle pasture]

yeah remove the field

[latent mauve]

I think you can also use RequireToolId in Your UpgradeFrom model, if you want it to consume the previous watering can (instead of the Condition)

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Tools

[fierce vault]

just realized the total amount of pixels my portrait sheets should be are off after doing some math, ahhhh!

so much left to do

[autumn ivy]

ok thanks @brittle pasture @latent mauve it works

[upper fractal]

Im new to this and i don't know what im doing.Im trying to make a npc with misscoriel npc creator mos and im running through the issue that my portraits look very pixelated with the usual 64x64 canvas for each expression.So i been trying to use cp or portraiture to make higher resolution portraits and i dont understand how some of the most popular portraits like the dc and the one for sve look so good and doesn't overflow the frame.I need help,please

[sullen rain]

Why am I getting this error when the asset exists?

[half tangle]

I'm pretty sure that that NPC creator is very out of date. I'd suggest using this tutorial: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC

As far as higher resolution portraits, you need a mod like Portraiture to do that (I'm definitely out of the loop on HD portraits, though, so I'm not certain what current HD portrait mods use)

[mellow laurel]

@sullen rain https://smapi.io/log/203e1a073386497d97d929a9a8b38a1e

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 189 C# mods and 455 content packs.

[sullen rain]

I'll try your suggestion from the other channel radium. Thanks for the log

[half tangle]

!npc for more info

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[upper fractal]

I tried to use misscoriel npc creator since it seems pretty easy to use.I tried doing high resolution portraits through both portraiture and cp but it seems anything thats goes above 96px/62px becomes too big for the frame so i need to know how people do such high resolution portraits but without it overflowing the frame

[torpid sparrow]

if its out of date its no use to u

[half tangle]

"easy to use" does not mean it'll actually help you put something into the current version of the game

check out that last link in Governor's post for another NPC builder to try

[sullen rain]

Nope
[Content Patcher] Ignored Mona Revived > Schedule Dialogue load: can't use the Target field with an Include patch.

[buoyant moon]

Is there a quick way to do a scan for missing i18n tokens, assuming they aren't using dynamic tokens themselves?

[uncut viper]

According to that log, you aren't even touching Strings/schedules/Mona
Is it perhaps meant to be Strings/schedules/silver.Mona_Mona?

[upper fractal]

Got it thanks!I'll try to start from scratch.Although im a bit slow so I'll probably mess up something,especially if its with codes n stuff haha

I just hope someone with portraits experience can resolve my original question

[sullen rain]

{

  "LogName": "Schedule Dialogue load",
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "Strings/schedules/{{ModId}}_Mona",
  "FromFile": "assets/data/ScheduleDialogue.json"

},

[hard fern]

im not sure what issue you're running into with portraiture.

🤔 it should just work

[uncut viper]

That's not Strings/schedules/Mona

Which is what is written in whatever is trying to use the dialogue

[sullen rain]

Ah

[uncut viper]

One of your schedules (I assume, based on the dialogue key) is missing the ModId prefix when calling the schedule dialogue

The library_read.000 one

[sullen rain]

Ohh

Okay

Thanks Button

[hard fern]

are your portraits named correctly in portraiture? (perhaps they are named incorrectly, and thus portraiture is not replacing the portraits like they should and instead you are simply seeing your incorrectly sized npc's portraits the way they are in your mod?)

[upper fractal]

My mind is kinda hazy rn and i cant remember exactly what i did but i when put the spritesheet in the portrait folder for portraiture the smapi log said smth about compatibility with the portraits of the npc and the portraiture.Or smth like that,its kinda hard to remember

[hard fern]

if you could get that log that would be great

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[upper fractal]

Is it okay if i send it later?I turned the computer off a while ago and im too lazy to get up to my desk rn srry

[hard fern]

yeah, don't worry about it

just lmk when you can

[upper fractal]

Okay!I'll ping you once i get it

[hoary flame]

I'm just now getting around to creating my mod page (finished this mod weeks ago but procrastinated final touches to start another mod instead) and why is putting together images for the mod page so tedious?? I just want to be done already rip

[valid folio]

Hi, how are you? Do you know which file contains the rules for the machines of the base game?

[hard fern]

Data/Machines.json

[valid folio]

Thanks!

[torpid sparrow]

making the mod page is the worst

[buoyant moon]

Is there a wooden sign generator to go with the scroll generator for making images for a mod page?

[round dock]

Making mod pages is the best

-# jk i have a love hate relationship with it

Conceptualizing? Fun.
Living in mod page purgatory because the preview doesn’t sit right? Hell.

[torpid sparrow]

claire more like c-liar-e

[steep viper]

oddly enough I think my favourite part is making the images for the mod page

[near imp]

heretic /j

[steep viper]

I get to decorate:3

[hoary flame]

I wish I could relate

[steep viper]

hell yeah

[ornate locust]

After the frog moves in

[whole prism]

Hiii everyone!

If anyone is bored and want to do some pixel design of fishies, then let me know!

Im working on making a few sprites for my first ever llegendary fish for my mod, and am super open to any contributions if your willing!! You can ping or DM!

[gilded oxide]

Hey so I'm really new to modding so I could be missing something really obvious but I'm trying to use CP's edit image on an AT fish pond texture and it's not working. The smapi log isn't giving me any errors so I'm not sure if it's something in the fish pond drawing process that's the issue or maybe my targeting? I'm using AT's CP integration but I've also just tried the direct file path. I'm so confused

[orchid glade]

Is anyone able to showcase a mod for me? I swear I will apply for mod author asap..

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/33879
We have finally released our very first beta version of vanilla seasonal outfits! Our vision is outfits that keep as close to vanilla style as possible.

We are also looking for artists to collaborate, you can DM me or GalaxyRobot on here or Nexus if interested.

[hard fern]

got it for you

[orchid glade]

Thank you kindly 🙂

[buoyant moon]

woo didn't get scope creeped before I released a thing

now to make my own event script format that compiles into JSON

[dreamy cedar]

I'm having a hard time convincing SMAPI to display verbose/debug output for just my mods. I can go through the UI and change "Developer Mode" to true and I get everything. But if I turn it off and check my mods in the list, I don't get any verbose output from any mods.

[lucid iron]

you are trying to use this right https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/f7bc2d96f54ae3e952ed49eed44a13700e2ecab4/src/SMAPI/Framework/Models/SConfig.cs#L82

[dreamy cedar]

Yes

[lucid iron]

can u check smapi-internal/config.json "VerboseLogging"

see if ur configs saved

[ivory plume]

Note that those are two different things; what you probably want is to (a) enable verbose logs for your mods, and (b) enable developer mode. The former enables verbose logging, while the latter lets you see it in the console window.

[dreamy cedar]

What I'm hoping for is the ability to see my mods' debug/trace data without having to see other mods' trace data. Is that not a thing?

[lucid iron]

its what this is for

u need to put "Nerm3.ModId" in there i think

i never use this bc its annoying to change config all the time

[dreamy cedar]

Here's the config.user.json (not hand-edited, the result of working in the UI, so no typos):

{
  "ConsoleColorScheme": "DarkBackground",
  "VerboseLogging": [
    "SMAPI",
    "NermNermNerm.JojaFinancial",
    "NermNermNerm.Junimatic",
    "NermNermNerm.QuestableTractor",
    "NermNermNerm.WarpNetworkReimagined"
  ],
  "DeveloperMode": false
}

[ivory plume]

It's possible for TRACE messages, but not for DEBUG messages. Generally mods shouldn't be logging much DEBUG info; if a mod is spamming debug messages, I suggest asking the mod author not to do that.

[lucid iron]

i usually have a thing like this instead in my ModEntry

#if DEBUG
    private const LogLevel DEFAULT_LOG_LEVEL = LogLevel.Debug;
#else
    private const LogLevel DEFAULT_LOG_LEVEL = LogLevel.Trace;
#endif

    /// <summary>SMAPI static monitor Log wrapper</summary>
    /// <param name="msg"></param>
    /// <param name="level"></param>
    internal static void Log(string msg, LogLevel level = DEFAULT_LOG_LEVEL)
    {
        mon!.Log(msg, level);
    }

then i can see my own Trace logs as Debug when i build debug config

[dreamy cedar]

Junimatic, for example, is definitely spewing as LogLevel.Trace, and yet with the above settings, I'm not seeing any output. I think we're agreed that I should be seeing it? I can dig deeper if this isn't everybody's experience.

[tiny zealot]

i think in order to see Trace level in your console you need to set "DeveloperMode": true

[vernal crest]

Pathos said you need to enable developer mode to see it in the console

[dreamy cedar]

K, reparsing, I think the idea is that if "DeveloperMode" is false, you see no Debug or Trace in the console. If you set it True, then you see only Trace from selected mods and Debug from every mod?

[ivory plume]

Yep.

[uncut viper]

Dev mode only affects trace not debug, no?

[ivory plume]

(Verbose logging changes what gets output to the logs; developer mode affects which logs are also visible on the console window.)

[uncut viper]

Debug is definitely still in the console with dev mode false

[ivory plume]

Oh, yeah sorry I misread. Debug is always visible, Trace is only visible in developer mode (but always written to the log files either way). Verbose logs have trace level.

[dreamy cedar]

Okay, so here's what I'm seeing in the console with debug mode on:

[19:17:06 TRACE Junimatic] Junimo reached target { projectType=IndoorPots location=Honest A Farm hut={X:22 Y:17} origin={X:23 Y:17} source=Junimatic.IndoorWell at {X:24 Y:15} target=Garden Pot at {X:18 Y:17} items=Steel Watering Can[0]x1 }
[19:17:06 TRACE Visible Fish] Spawning fish in Farm.
[19:17:06 TRACE Visible Fish] found 255 water tiles
[19:17:06 TRACE SMAPI] Visible Fish loaded asset 'Mods/shekurika.VisibleFish/LocationData'.
[19:17:06 TRACE Visible Fish] Attempted Spawns 44 Failed Spawns: 30
[19:17:07 TRACE SMAPI] Junimatic edited Characters/Dialogue/Kent.
[19:17:07 TRACE SMAPI] Junimatic edited Characters/Dialogue/Kent.

Note Trace data from Visible Fish.

[ivory plume]

Yep, that's normal. So to summarize:

• The log file always shows TRACE and DEBUG.
• The console window shows TRACE (if developer mode is enabled) and DEBUG (always).
• You can optionally enable verbose logging. This affects messages logged using this.Monitor.VerboseLog or this.Monitor.IsVerbose, which are written as TRACE level (following the rules above).

So:

• Enabling 'developer mode' will show TRACE messages from all mods.
• Enabling verbose logs for specific mods will then add those extra logs to the log + console.

[dreamy cedar]

I see. It's a case of I was projecting what I wanted the feature to do without checking hard to see if that's what the feature actually did. @lucid iron 's conditional compilation definitely does the needful, but it feels like a workaround.

[hard fern]

so uh. how do i fix this..

[lucid iron]

maybe u should PR in per mod log level settings

[half tangle]

I just use Info during dev always so I can see it more easily and then get rid of those lines when I don't need them (and keep stuff at Trace that should be there anyway)

[tiny zealot]

i use Debug liberally and the method i call for it is conditional so the calls get compiled away when i switch to release

[ivory plume]

(That's what verbose logging is supposed to be, but a lot of mods misuse always-on TRACE logs.)

[half tangle]

(and I appreciate the SMAPI update fixing visibility of Info recently)

[dreamy cedar]

Maybe. It's kindof a nice to have, and there are workarounds. I wonder if we ever get to a world where we check signatures, we'd then have a way to know whether a mod is under development locally or not (because we'd want to turn signature checking off for locally compiled mod).

[lucid iron]

i feel like thats what compile configuration r meant for

[uncut viper]

I just do a Ctrl-F when I'm finished with my mod to remove all my Log.Debug calls right before publishing (don't be like me)

[half tangle]

I am also very basic in my compiling practices and only use the released build and not debug

[lucid iron]

button...

[dreamy cedar]

ymmv. I like to minimize conditional compilation. Been burned by having debug code that gets compiled out in release mode because there was a hidden side-effect.

[uncut viper]

(All of my mods are also built and released in Debug bc I never remember to even pay attention to that whatsoever. Don't be like me)

[lucid iron]

u can [Conditional("DEBUG")] u know

[uncut viper]

I actually did put that on my logging but, see above

If I had stronger reason to pay attention to it or I was being paid to do it right or something I would pay more attention to it

[lucid iron]

im not rly sure how this can happen if u r doing #if DEBUG and such manually

but idk shit about roslyn and her whims so

[uncut viper]

Your good friend Roslyn

[dreamy cedar]

Well, consider this:

#ifdef DEBUG
  foo.Log("This is the {n++}th time I've been called, what could go wrong?");
#endif

(Granted, you usually have to get a little subtler than that to have a bug, but it's a thing.)

[tiny zealot]

well, in addition to the bug, that's a pain to have to do every time i want to call log

[lucid iron]

hm i wonder what happens with the [Conditional("DEBUG")] ones then

[tiny zealot]

the calls just get excised, afaict

[uncut viper]

Calls to Conditional("DEBUG") methods don't get put in the IL

[lucid iron]

but yea the pattern of changing the LogLevel only would avoid that kinda thing i feel

[uncut viper]

(unless you are in debug obv)

[tiny zealot]

you'd have the same bug, but this is why postfix increment used "cleverly" is a bug factory IME

[lucid iron]

yea but what about the stack leading up to the message

does n++ eval in that case i mean

[uncut viper]

The n++ in that example is not the same case

as its not in a Conditional method

whatever is in between the #ifdef DEBUG and #endif just does not exist in your compiled .dll whatsoever, any IL between those lines is yeeted

presumably if it were a method it'd also remove all the parameters sent to that method, or else the stack would explode

[dreamy cedar]

Side-effects (in general) are bug factories. But I gotta say, the bit of conditional code that spurred this is pretty hard to imagine causing mayhem:

#if DEBUG
    private const LogLevel DEFAULT_LOG_LEVEL = LogLevel.Debug;
#else
    private const LogLevel DEFAULT_LOG_LEVEL = LogLevel.Trace;
#endif

[lucid iron]

yea that appears to be what happens

i did this

int n = 0;
// LogDebug has [Conditional("DEBUG")]
LogDebug($"Do you become one? {n++}", LogLevel.Info);
Log($"n={n}", LogLevel.Info);

and you get n=1 in debug and n=0 in Release

[uncut viper]

Sounds expected to me

[dreamy cedar]

^ The last time I debugged something like this, it was actually Linq-related -- the debug code simply expanded the enumerable, which had the effect of making the second traversal behave differently and, bizarrely, it worked fine with two traversals and broke when only traversed once. Kinda backwards.

One of those "Let's see ChatGPT figure that one out" moments.

[fierce vault]

I'm getting this error for all my jack spring DTsFailed parsing condition 'parcy.jack/SpringJack1': 'parcy.jack/SpringJack1' isn't a known query or alias.https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/5699f1eb8d524610b414e3fb266f1f7b This is the json.

Anyone willing to take a look?

[lucid iron]

you don't need to prepend your mod id for dynamic tokens

[fierce vault]

Oh? I was copying how I set up my portrait mod. It works, but this doesn't

I'll take it out then

[uncut viper]

If you named your DT with the modid prefix then you'd need to write it every time, but you shouldn't name it with it, and having it not in the name but when you try to use it will always break it

[fierce vault]

so, I did this wrong too then? my other mod was my reference for this https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d42dd7c166724107ad2414aeb833cae4

[calm nebula]

Stupid questions time

Can someone explain the Green Wizard names

Thank you.

[hard fern]

😔 sorry it's my fault

i posted this in #modded-stardew and it just kinda happened

[uncut viper]

Those have the modID in the values, not the names

[fierce vault]

I'll be real, I didn't even know the context before I committed

[uncut viper]

You are (correctly) not using your ModId in the names i.e. when you write {{Santa Red}}

[fierce vault]

Ohh

[uncut viper]

I will admit though I just went off what chu said and didnt look at your original json

So that's my bad

[fierce vault]

thanks for the help guys, I'll fix that

[uncut viper]

You don't need them in your values either though, but if you're using them in Targets, you may need to use the ModID token in the tagrte instead to make sure a fromfile matches up or something

The error you asked about in particular originally is because when you write {{SpringJack1}} that gets turned into parcy.jack/SpringJack1 which is not a GSQ

But you are attempting to use it as a GSQ in your appearance Conditions

[inner harbor]

has anyone written a customized wedding to work in multiplayer?

I am wondering how to add the other farmers/players!

(and looking for a reference)

[rain oracle]

Hello folks, just popping in to ask a question:
Is there any content patcher commands, actions, or that sort of thing that would allow me to modify quarry spawn rates on my custom farm?

I have the dirt placed down, and it seemingly just generates the geodes? (its been a long time, so I honestly forget how i got it working), but id like to adjust the odds if thats possible.

Thanks

[gaunt orbit]

spawn rates are hardcoded. you would need to either make a FTM content pack or use c#

(in addition to your existing cp pack)

[rain oracle]

Welp.

[fierce vault]

no errors anymore... but my npc will not show in any of my test saves except one that has already had him (and the conditions he needs triggered) for a while

he seems so finicky with actually showing up which has me worried

[torpid sparrow]

any errors?

[fierce vault]

none in my smapi console. He's in my old testing save alive and well, but literally would not show up when i staarted a new one and timeskipped to fall 28 and then slept the night to see his event in the morning. (I did briefly enter winter though skipping before that, so maybe that's the issue?) my mod is apparently easily broken by time skipping wrong

I'll start another test save and see if I can get him to show.

yeah, it's drivng me crazy. I was more careful with how I time skipped this time, watched the event twice, once using debug, and even went to sleep when he didn't appear only for him to not show up the next day either!

but he's there in my old save just fine??

modfest ends on the 25th for me since I'm not in Europe, and my npc won't even bother to show up for me lol

Good news is that he at least is using his spring sprites now, (thanks button and chu)

but I can not get him to work on new test saves!

[buoyant moon]

General i18n question: looking at examples I'm noticing that they aren't including {{ModId}} or any unique identifier as part of the token, is that the standard and are i18n strings isolated to each mod to avoid conflicts if so?

[fierce vault]

anyone have any ideas why that might be happening?

[uncut viper]

i18n is already unique to every mod

No need to namespace them

[buoyant moon]

Got it, thanks, that's what it looked like but I didn't notice it explicitly spelled out unless I missed something

[uncut viper]

Hard to say without seeing all the jsons but if your precondition for him existing is an event, I'd double check everywhere you are using an event ID, if you might have changed it or typo'd it at any point

[fierce vault]

I will check that, thanks

I've got this in the event"Entries": { "parcy.jack_intro/Time 600 1700/Season Winter/DayOfMonth 1 2 3 4 5 6 7/": " and "Conditon":"!PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Host parcy.jack_intro", as his trigger. He has shown up before in other test saves before, so idk

oh wait

[uncut viper]

Well the trigger action won't un-invisible him

[fierce vault]

yeah, no I explained that wrong

He should have a trigger in his event

Or command anyway

that makes him visible again

I'll check to see it's still there

Ohh

I maaay have found something of note!

I have action SetNpcVisible {{ModID}}_Jack/ but have been skipping through the event.... I do not have a setSkipActions [actions] though, so that might be it?

[uncut viper]

That sounds like it's probably it

[fierce vault]

I'll see if it fixes!

[ornate locust]

You can also just put that before the skippable command

if you don't need it to happen in a certain spot in the event

[fierce vault]

yaay! That's what I did, and he shows!!!

Thanks (again) for all the help everyone has offered today

I'm still not nearly done though 😄

So much left to do!

[latent mauve]

Debating if I need to make Urbosa short for Flower Dance, there are a distinct lack of tall flower dance sprites.

Even the taller NPCs shrink down for it, LOL

[fierce vault]

I was struggling making a quick question work for dialogue that technically has no question, but makes the player remark something, so I tried a question null instead, kind of like this question null "#You are!?"/ but now my event won't load?😅

the # shows as red, even when I had 2 like the example...

[urban patrol]

you need to escape your quotes

[fierce vault]

Oh

thanks

[urban patrol]

np

[fierce vault]

that makes sense because that's how it works for other dialogue in the event. I just didn't see those in the example so didn't add them 😅

[urban patrol]

what example?

[fierce vault]

let me find it

this on the wikiquestion null "<question>#<answer1>#<answer2>"

not technically a formatted example I guess

but it wasn't immediately obvious to me that I needed to add \

[urban patrol]

it's JSON convention that unless you're indicating the beginning or end of a key/value, the quotes need to be escaped so that you don't end the key/value early

[fierce vault]

Ok, thanks!

[uncut viper]

It is technically formatted in that you can use normal quotes without escaping them if your outermost quotes are single quotes instead (and then you need to escape single quotes)

This may make it easier on you if you're not using single quotes elsewhere in the string

[brave fable]

honestly if you have any dialogue in the string i wouldn't bother since then you're just having to escape all your apostrophes

may as well just be consistent and escape your contained doublequotes

[proven spindle]

Thanks for all the feedback! I've added clarification to the tutorial about the edibility steps and looking at the game files. I'll probably swap the patch export and patch reload section locations; I don't want to group them all together since that can be overwhelming and I find that a later repetition of a concept helps with understanding and retaining it

[fierce vault]

where do I read about additional dialogue commands, like adding an item to a player's inventory? I didn't see anything about that when briefly checking the wiki page on dialogue

[half tangle]

like trigger actions? https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Trigger_actions

(AddItem would be the one you're referencing)

and in dialogue it'd be $action <action> https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Dialogue_commands

[fierce vault]

Thanks!

[onyx reef]

might be a dumb question but is there a way to make so multiple cooking recipes fall under the same 'item' for the master chef achievment? Like if i wanted to add customizable pizza toppings for cooking, could i make it so they all register as the pizza while still holding the different toppings.

[uncut viper]

No. But you could use SpaceCore to make one recipe that can take any item with (for example) a "pizza_topping" context tag

It would have to be the same pizza, though

(This also assumes you're using Content Patcher only. Naturally if you use C# you can do anything.)

[onyx reef]

oh </3

ill just make it so there are way less versions to make then. thank you!

[dreamy dew]

Hello. I'm sorry if I keep asking stuffing like this here, but where is RobinDem from? I see it in the mail string?

Couldn't find it in the modding data from the official wiki.

[swift falcon]

demolish maybe?

[verbal glacier]

Hi, it's a letter Id which doesn't correspond to anything in particular (no actual letter you received) it can be referenced by events or other dialogue. It's from Robin's Sunday 2 Heart dialogue which uses the $1 dialogue command, this shows a line of dialogue once and then shows another repeatedly (I believe) because you now have the mail flag.

[dreamy dew]

Is it from SVE? I don't think I'm familiar with the 2-heart dialogue for Robin on a Sunday.

Maybe I have forgotten. What's the dialogue or quote again?

[verbal glacier]

It's Vanilla. "Sun2": "#$1 RobinDem#My husband almost set the house on fire last night with his science experiment. One of his beakers exploded and sent a fireball into the rafters! Thank Yoba I used fire-resistant lacquer when I built the place.$u#$e#Sorry if it smells weird in here, @. It's my husband's bizarre science project...",

[dreamy dew]

Ohh, that. Yeah. I remember that. And you say it's repeatable?

[verbal glacier]

the second part should be

After #$e#

[dreamy dew]

So the first part is a one-time thing, but with the marker, it will only repeat the second part from then on?

[verbal glacier]

Yes

[dreamy dew]

Got it, thanks very much.

[verbal glacier]

Happy to help 🙂

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm having an issue where the pathway is still impassable despite nothing being there on the buildings layer (The Tiled screenshot is only showing the buildings layer), no impassible tile property in the map when using patch export, and the PatchMode being Replace.
Are there other layers that prevent movement? or something else odd that I haven't thought of?

[near imp]

stupid question just to rule out: you dont have any clear/transparent tiles on the building layer, they are truly empty? magic wand select can help find them i believe

im not super familiar with selectively patching only parts of a map yet, but do you also know if your patch replaces all layers?

[obtuse wigeon]

There was invisible tiles! ty very much, I certainly didn't think of that

[near imp]

those bois have got me a few times previously

[floral stream]

is this for a new mod?

[obtuse wigeon]

it is, more specifically a mod for another mod XD

[floral stream]

which mod?

[obtuse wigeon]

One that's yet to be released and I'm not sure if I can say what the mod is

[floral stream]

oh ok, i just have a mod in that exact spot and ive made like 5 different compatibility patches lol

[obtuse wigeon]

Oof it's a popular place XD

[iron ridge]

i also have a thing there!
-# i doubt the mod has worked in years though so that one's not an issue

[floral stream]

this is is the path i made

[vernal crest]

Where is that? I don't recognise it

[obtuse wigeon]

Lower left of the backwoods

[floral stream]

yeah

[vernal crest]

Ah yes I see

[obtuse wigeon]

This location in the mod I'm making certainly isn't final, I'm just tossing things in locations so the other person working on it can give their input in, so there's a very high chance it will change

[floral stream]

yeah its just a very cramped area

[rain inlet]

chat should i bother setting up proprietary vscode for c# debugging or do i go beast mode and just rawdog it with nvim and commandline

[dawn ore]

How can i get a quest to require an island warp totem? I udnerstand the normal logic and have it working for items like iron bars, my guess is theres some formatting thing getting in the way due to the odd naming of totems?

I've tried:
"AcceptedContextTags": "id_(o)886",

and

"AcceptedContextTags": "item_warp_totem_island",

What am i doing wrong?

[ornate trellis]

i never got the id_(o)886 stuff to work either...for some reason it only worked for me when i did it like id_886. either way without the rest people might not want to take a look or be able to say much

[brave fable]

according to https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags, you'd format it as id_o_886(id_type_id) or item_item_warp_totem:_island (item_name)

sorry had to correct myself there, assumed items used the id as the name. the reason yours wasn't working is that it didn't match the reformatted name, per the wiki rules:

The name is trimmed, lowercase, with spaces replaced with underscores, and with single quotes removed
so the colon stays

[brave fable]

context tags as above ⤴️

[calm nebula]

Just hold it above your head and debug listtags

[ornate drift]

would people consider you a "coder" if you learnt json coding instead of python and whatnot

not related to stardew just like in general

[torpid sparrow]

from what i understand we're not really coding

especially bc what makes it possible is content patcher

[lucid iron]

It's the same kind of coding as writing html/css kinda

[ornate drift]

it's kinda like

basic knowledge

i guess

[lucid iron]

You aren't implementing any logic, but filling in appropriate data in a structured document

[ornate drift]

patching

and loading

and editing

[torpid sparrow]

ive done python and javascript and java and it's a totally different experience imo

(i dont code anymore and i was very bad at it)

[devout otter]

Yar to my understanding, it's not really "coding", but to decribe it the accurate way seems to actually confuse most people.

[lucid iron]

I think u can count it as coding

The actual distinction is data vs logic

[torpid sparrow]

i think of coding more as logic

[obtuse wigeon]

Generally speaking I agree with Chu, but specifically to modding with content patcher, you're also learning how to debug, read documentation, and learning to think more like a programmer which can (and does) help massively with learning coding languages

[ornate drift]

yeah, you get to learn values and strings

[lucid iron]

There's also some minor logical things you can do in content patcher with the token system

[torpid sparrow]

true

[lucid iron]

But it's overall a declarative thing

Not imperative

[ornate drift]

tiled makes me wanna rip my hair follicles off sometimes

same goes for json editing
if you even mess up just ONE thing in content everything gets ruined

But I can't lie

it's extremely fun to learn

Maybe I'm having fun because it's like a new hobby, I'm used to being an artist

[torpid sparrow]

content json?

u could split up ur jsons

[ornate drift]

Like say your ID was wrong for all jsons

you'd have to go in and edit them all again

[torpid sparrow]

huh

[obtuse wigeon]

That's when you use {{ModId}} so you don't have to change them

[torpid sparrow]

yeah

which i thought u were using

[ornate drift]

i am

I'm just giving an example

nothings wrong with my jsons lol

[torpid sparrow]

i suppose but find and replace works in a pinch

[ornate drift]

i have them all separated in assets

[torpid sparrow]

thats what i did when i switched to {{modid}}

[ornate drift]

....true

[vernal crest]

I think he was just talking in generalities

[ornate drift]

yes

that

[vernal crest]

Like if you accidentally set something as an array instead of an object, or miss a comma

Lots of possible examples

[obtuse wigeon]

I'd be truly stuffed without the ModID token, especially currently with a 33 character modID

[torpid sparrow]

true

[ornate drift]

Or invalidating your json

[torpid sparrow]

lol right

[ornate drift]

I don't see the difference between ] and } in jsons

[vernal crest]

I enjoy the need for accuracy in programming and data

[ornate drift]

I keep it held by ducktape and then polish it later

[obtuse wigeon]

I suggest you never look at any none json I write in that case XD

[ornate drift]

Kinda like sketching and then tracing your sketch

[ornate drift]

Do they have different purposes?

[obtuse wigeon]

[ ] are used for lists of things (also called arrays) e.g. [Item1, Item2, Item3]
{ } are used for dictionaries which are key value pairs e.g.

{
  "Key1": "Value1",
  "Key2": "Value2",
  "Key2": "Value2",
}

[ornate drift]

Oh basically patches

[obtuse wigeon]

lists are good for say a gracery list, while dictionaries are good for, well dictionaries with the word and it's definition

[ornate drift]

Logname action etc etc

[obtuse wigeon]

yep!

[ornate drift]

Interesting...

[ornate drift]

Could you say arrays are used for adding more info to, for example, an object you wanna add into the game?

Like uhhh

[tiny zealot]

https://www.json.org/json-en.html

[ornate drift]

name, edible or not, buffs, etc

[tiny zealot]

it may help you to read about json itself in this case. array/list [] and object/dictionary {} are two of the three fundamental types of thing you can have in json

[ornate drift]

three?

[tiny zealot]

(the third is value, which comprises strings, numbers, booleans, etc.)

[obtuse wigeon]

third is data types I think? like yep what Ichor said

[ornate drift]

ooh

[tiny zealot]

knowing what you need to put in your content patcher json to, for example, change or add data to an object is an exercise in 1. understanding how the data is structured now and how you want it to be structured instead and 2. understanding how content patcher expects to receive data about those changes from you in its own json schema

[ornate drift]

inchresting

[trim tundra]

Heyo! I'm trying to figure out how some stuff works for machines so I can maybe patch a bugged thing myself. See https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1485794553612206180 for a little more detail. Long story short, when re-smoking a fish with a smoker using a talent from VPP that lets you re-smoke fish to increase quality, doing so with MPS machines causes all re-smoked fish of the same quality to stack with each other, merging into a single big stack and losing the original fish

Here's the relevant compat data for this talent.

Do any of you have any idea why those fish might be stacking weirdly? I'm not sure how to read this stuff, but it looks like it should just take something in, increase the quality by 1, and then spit it back out.

The only mod I think might be affecting this other than those two would be Vegas' Better Item Categories, if that might be relevant.

[brittle pasture]

ignore what I said earlier the issue is that they're using DROP_IN_ID in their ItemId instead of DROP_IN_PRESERVE

[trim tundra]

So "ItemId": "FLAVORED_ITEM SmokedFish DROP_IN_ID DROP_IN_QUALITY", should be ``"ItemId": "FLAVORED_ITEM SmokedFish DROP_IN_PRESERVE DROP_IN_QUALITY",`?

[brittle pasture]

yes

feel free to also report this bug with MPS (though note that the author is busy currently)

[trim tundra]

'ight, let me make that modification and then go test it. Thanks!

If you wouldn't mind, what's actually the technical difference between those? I'm pretty coding savvy, but I've got no knowledge of how Stardew works behind the scenes.

[trim tundra]

Is there somewhere better to do so than a post on Nexus? I already posted it there. If this works, then I'll go reply to that post with some updated info.

[brittle pasture]

DROP_IN_ID = the output's flavor is the item id of the input; in this case the input is smoked fish so the output'd become "Smoked Fish-flavored Smoked Fish"
DROP_IN_PRESERVE = the output's flavor inherits the flavor of the input, so Smoked Tuna becomes another Smoked Tuna properly

the first is intended for the regular fish to smoked fish rule

[trim tundra]

Ah, so the first turns a Tuna into a Smoked Tuna, or in this case a Smoked Tuna into a Smoked Smoked, and the second would turn a Tuna into a Tuna or a Smoked Tuna into a Smoked Tuna. Got it.

[ornate drift]

the lack of ideas bro this is gonna KILL ME 💔

[brittle pasture]

MPS also has a thread here: https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1325929260246106202

but as mentioned Nach is busy with IRL stuff for at least a few more months

[ornate drift]

ohhh wait i just realized...

the $ makes it so that instead of breaking the line, it skips to it immediately so you dont have to interact with the character again

no wonder why it was skipping only the Mon dialogue

[trim tundra]

The fix worked great, so I'll go document the fix in all the relevant places. Thank you!

[ornate drift]

where do you find the setting in NotePad++ so that everytime you press a json it always opens up NotePad++?

[trim tundra]

I would assume that would just be the default app in Windows, not a setting in Notepad++. I haven't done this, but it should just be right click > open with > choose a different app > find Notepad++ and set it to always.

(Assuming Windows 10/11, I think it works the same in both. If you have another operating system I will be of no use)

[ornate drift]

oh, hey, it worked! thanks

mwehehehehe

ummm

i was trying to put him into the interior of my bakery

hes still in town

[torpid sparrow]

thats not a location

thats a map

have u made a location yet

[ornate drift]

cant it just be Manny-Bakery-Interior?

[torpid sparrow]

thats not what i mean

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data#Simple_location

you need to create a location and define it

you simply loaded a map there

the map doesnt exist as a location

[void aspen]

You can know you did that right if you can debug warp there

Without creating the location entry first, map will not be accessible nor for you or npcs

[ornate drift]

but like
i can debug warp there

it exists

[torpid sparrow]

show the patch

u didnt show the location just the map load

[ornate drift]

is it not this or

[torpid sparrow]

ok so ur location is _SpeedyShop

not the interior name

[void aspen]

So it's Speedy Shop

Not interior

Okay we are echoing

[ornate drift]

wait how do i know its _SpeedyShop?

[torpid sparrow]

right below ur entry

[ornate drift]

oh wait

im stupid

[void aspen]

Your entry

[ornate drift]

💔

[torpid sparrow]

ur first entry is {{ModId}}_SpeedyShop

[void aspen]

Nooo you're not

[ornate drift]

im SORRY

dapwihdwapofhan

my content is already done for the most part i simply forgot about it

the one big thing im terrified for is events

im guessing its picking a map, then animations, then dialogue

[torpid sparrow]

errr i mean the animations and dialogue are intertwined

like u could have dialogue, then animation, then dialogue again

[ornate drift]

oo

[torpid sparrow]

but the map you pick when u write the patch since you'll be targeting a specifica location

[ornate drift]

that did not work theyre still stuck up the cliff

am i supposed to add modid as well

or just _SpeedyShop

[torpid sparrow]

oh yeah add modid

[ornate drift]

fuck

[torpid sparrow]

i just did that bc i didnt wanna type it out

and the modid doesnt change

xd

[ornate drift]

oki oki

the fuck? SMAPI had a fatal error and then fixed itself after i relaunched it

[torpid sparrow]

huh

[ornate drift]

hes STILL there

[torpid sparrow]

hmm

send whole json

[void aspen]

He just wanna sit on the cliff n chill a bit

[tiny zealot]

events are intimidating until you start doing them. then they're merely frustrating (the event loop is cursed) /lh

[merry river]

@brittle pasture I have a question regarding EMC. Is it possible to inherit the flavor of an input item if one of the input item is a flavored one already? (I want the name to be displayed like "Flavor of Input 1" + "Flavor of Input 2(not a flavored item per se)" + "Potion"
Because in my case, I always get the generic display name for the first input
Here's my attempt lol: https://smapi.io/json/none/4ec1946cf0b44fbcb2ecaedd10e5a63d

[merry river]

your ECC makes it so much more bearable though

[tiny zealot]

i'll return to it one of these days! (too busy with modfest project atm)

[buoyant moon]

What's that?

[tiny zealot]

unpublished framework that adds a bunch of event commands

(i haven't finished cooking it yet)

[merry river]

of course, take your time! it wasn't my intention to sound like "ichor update ECC NOW", just know that I appreciate its existence a lot

[buoyant moon]

oh, nice

[tiny zealot]

technically you can download the beta here https://github.com/ichortower/EventCommandCodex but i'm not really advertising it yet

[merry river]

i published an update to my mod directly linking to the ecc download and people were in shambles over the fact it's not directly on nexus

[torpid sparrow]

Tell an actor to go to a specific tile without having to write up the path instructions yourself, or even know what tile they are standing on HALLELUJAH

[merry river]

THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER LET ME TELL YOU

[tiny zealot]

honestly i don't blame them. github is not friendly to non-programmers

[merry river]

also the viewports <3

[torpid sparrow]

just fell to my knees

[calm nebula]

I'm teaching teammates git and gos

Explaining the difference between a rebase and a merge

[merry river]

if you click on the link it downloads ecc directly

[calm nebula]

I must sound crazy

[merry river]

i dont even know git and gos. all i know is how to click link

...i dont like how everyone stopped typing after that

[tiny zealot]

oh maybe you can explain that to me! i've never rebased in my life

[calm nebula]

Rebase is like cherry picking every different commit off a different branch

[lucid iron]

rebase is a merge strat just like the regular kind except u pretend you were making the branch changes on main this whole time and do revisionist history accordingly

[tiny zealot]

interdasting

[buoyant moon]

oof, been ages since I've wrote a regex so I've gotten rusty

wonder how many other people have made parsers to extract i18n tokens because I'm joining that club

[autumn tide]

hey! anyone know where the grandpa bed image is? been looking for 10 mins and ik it'll be somewhere obvious but I just can't find it

not cursors

I checked

[tiny zealot]

talk to nom0ri about it i guess (i18n converter)

[brittle pasture]

what does the string MM_Potion look like

[calm nebula]

Try minigames

[autumn tide]

i've checked but I'kk try again

[tiny zealot]

Minigames/jojacorps

[autumn tide]

I'll*

[autumn tide]

omg tysm ichor- it didn't show up in the preview so I didn't think to check it

[tiny zealot]

and why would you? it's called jojacorps! /lh

[autumn tide]

maybe grandpa worked at joja

[buoyant moon]

their site's useful but broke on some of the events I passed to it, also I want to run through a bunch of events at once so figured I might as well write my own version

[autumn tide]

secret villan arc

[tiny zealot]

probably worth reporting those bugs! nom0ri updates it regularly afaik

[ornate drift]

which one

[buoyant moon]

yeah, will do once I figure out what's going on to write up a report

want to make sure it's not user error first

[ornate drift]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/01270274b0c04d598bb6d2df5e6e6387

content json

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1f410abc890c45fc9f5ee09be868b5b2

dispos

[torpid sparrow]

did u add any schedules at all

[ornate drift]

oh uhhh no

i dont have schedules set yet

only spawnlocation

[torpid sparrow]

hmm

maybe u need to set appearance?

[ornate drift]

uhhh

how do i do that?

[torpid sparrow]

"Appearance": [
{
"Id": "Default",
"Portrait": "Portraits/{{ModId}}.Tilly",
"Sprite": "Characters/{{ModId}}.Tilly",
},

you don't have one

[ornate drift]

thats in content though

its already there

[torpid sparrow]

you loaded the portraits

oh wait hmm

yeah nvm

i have multiple appearances so i have that

[ornate drift]

grahhhhhhh

coding makes me melt

[buoyant moon]

...curse you, quickQuestion

[ornate drift]

maybe kailey can help

[torpid sparrow]

try createonload

add this to ur location

oh nvm

u have that

thinks

[ornate drift]

yeah

LMAO

i do

[torpid sparrow]

if u start a new save does anything change

[ornate drift]

@gaunt heath oh holy kailey please spawn infront of me and guide me through this torturous quest of spawning my npc in the interiors bed

(trust me the ritual will work)

[ornate drift]

uhhhhhhh not sure
i dont really use new saves

[torpid sparrow]

start a new test save

[ornate drift]

im gonna have to go through the beginning cutscene again 💔

unless i forgot i can skip

[torpid sparrow]

welcome to testing

[buoyant moon]

I learned so many debug console commands in the past couple of weeks

but yeah there's a skip intro checkbox when creating a character that jumps right to the farmhouse, unless you mean a different cutscene

[torpid sparrow]

i think they have a cutscene to add their npc in

[buoyant moon]

ah, yeah, then that's its own thing

[ornate drift]

EW I HAVE TO WAIT TILL 9 AM TO GET IN

[buoyant moon]

world_settime 900

[ornate drift]

oh right

debug

[buoyant moon]

though that makes schedules and behavior wonky at times

[ornate drift]

ty

damnit i cant get in

he seems to be inside though

[gaunt heath]

Oh lawd idk how NPCs work

[ornate drift]

KAILEY

hiii

oh

[gaunt heath]

And I'm about to start an appointment like rn

Godspeed soldier

[ornate drift]

oki good luck :3333

take care

ty for showing up atleast

[torpid sparrow]

so did it work

[ornate drift]

uhhh i need to see what tile exactly did he spaawn in
above or below the bed

[torpid sparrow]

also did u sleep a day after making changes?

[ornate drift]

but yes hes in the bakery

[ornate drift]

nope

[torpid sparrow]

ok thats why

they dont magically teleport

[ornate drift]

deleting this disgusting new save

BLEGH

zoomed in camera is ass

[torpid sparrow]

always remember to sleep

[ornate drift]

NOOO HE SPAWNED ABOVE THE BED LMAO

[torpid sparrow]

change the tile

[ornate drift]

made it one lower

give it a sec

yay :3

seems about right

thats always the most common Home for any NPC, right?

[torpid sparrow]

wdym?

at their bed?

i dont know actually ive never seen gus in his bed

[ornate drift]

basically yeah

[ornate drift]

gus might be the only one though

every NPC ive seen spawns in their bed

ANYWAY its time forrrrrrrr

schedules

either gonna be fun or nightmare

okay so, every NPC stays at their exact coords at 9 AM every day, right?

oh wait nvm its a diff activity

[torpid sparrow]

huh

schedules start at 6 am

[ornate drift]

right

when the day starts theyll be at the home coordinate

then afterwards you can specify where they go to and whatnot

oh uhhh

how do you apply schedules

[torpid sparrow]

u dont have any entries

need a patch

[ornate drift]

Changes?

[torpid sparrow]

changes is not a patch

you need to EditData

[ornate drift]

er

oh

in the schedules or content

[torpid sparrow]

schedules

oh wait u have a load error

hold on

[torpid sparrow]

where is this

[ornate drift]

it says it doesnt have anything in the changes field

[torpid sparrow]

did u just add it to content

[ornate drift]

i did an include in content and then added schedules to assets

[torpid sparrow]

ok yeah

u need changes and edit data

[ornate drift]

ignore the rest im trying to test atm

[torpid sparrow]

u need the changes part

[ornate drift]

so its not an include?

[torpid sparrow]

uh no

hold on

let me explain

1. u already loaded a blank for ur schedule json. good.
2. u included your schedule json in ur content json. good.
3. in ur schedule json, you need an EditData patch. Which requires the Changes formatting thing

[ornate drift]

editdata and target data/schedules?

[buoyant moon]

What I did for an example:

[verbal glacier]

Characters/schedules/{{ModId}}_SpeedyManny

[torpid sparrow]

Characters/schedules/urnpcname

[ornate drift]

oh ok got it

[ornate drift]

ok so basically this

[merry river]

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Strings/Objects",
            "Entries": {
                "MM_Potion": "{{i18n: potion}}"
            }
        }

"Potion": "{0} {1} Potion",```

I just changed it to the string above but i dont even know if thats correct and i havent tested it yet

[ornate drift]

i fucked up the json 😭

hold on lemme redo it

[brittle pasture]

oh wait is mushroom_extract a flavored item by itself

[merry river]

yes

[brittle pasture]

ah then the issue is that you need to use PreserveId: DROP_IN_PRESERVE

[merry river]

I changed the preserveId but I must still be doing something wrong

[ornate drift]

it worked
hooray

[brittle pasture]

post your code again?

[ornate drift]

oh yeah wth was this?

[merry river]

https://smapi.io/json/none/a8554d32f49e446c9b78c2d3b01d7b46

[brittle pasture]

your PreserveId is still DROP_IN

[long jungle]

When I use content patcher edit data, are all fields that were not included in the edit data unaffected?

Even if for example, they are contained inside another field?

"239": {

"Buffs": [

     { 
     "CustomAttributes": {
               "Attribute1": 250,
               "Attribute3": 570 
                                              },
     },
],
},

In this example, I skipped "Attribute2" in the edit data, does that mean that it will not be changed at all and retain it's original value even if I changed some parts of the "Buffs" field?

[brittle pasture]

also if your fuel is a base item instead of a flavored item you want to use DROP_IN_ID_1

to recap: use DROP_IN/DROP_IN_ID_1 if you want to copy the item's ID into the flavor field
use DROP_IN_PRESERVE/DROP_IN_PRESERVE_1 if you want to copy the item's flavor into the flavor field

[long jungle]

I think that just means that SMAPI cannot connect to the internet? Not sure though.

[brittle pasture]

ie. keep track whether you are acting on Tuna the item or Tuna the flavor of Smoked Tuna

[merry river]

It's using the second item's ID now but doesn't copy the flavor of the main input item

[brittle pasture]

did you swap around Preserve values to the correct ones as I suggested

it looks like you still did not change the main PreserveId field

[ornate drift]

how do i know if an NPC has already occupied a specific XY coord so that my schedule is doesnt overlap with them

[brittle pasture]

this will wipe Attribute2

[merry river]

huh! I thought I did. must have hit ctrl z one too many times

[ornate locust]

Either read their schedules or follow them around and either way, hope a mod doesn't change it

[long jungle]

Thanks! That means I just gotta copy the original value too, right?

[ornate drift]

alrighty

[merry river]

it works now! thank you so much for guiding me through this

[brittle pasture]

if you want to not need to do that you can TargetField even deeper

[ornate drift]

oh im gonna need to add a sleeping animation

[long jungle]

Thanks!

[merry river]

will add a selph shroom in your honor or something

[ornate drift]

shit

[silver herald]

Hello everyone.

I'm an absolute, complete beginner. I'm looking to create a simple mod, and I just completed the 'Getting Started' tutorial on the Stardew Wiki.

No idea if this is the right place to ask, but I'm wondering if someone could push me in the right direction to move towards.

[ornate drift]

what mod are you looking for exactly

[silver herald]

The change I want to implement is very simple:

You know the 'Review Screen' at the end of the day that summerizes the items placed in the shipping bin and the money you've earned?

I want this to appear EVERY day, and not be automatically skipped when the shipping bin is empty.

That's it.

[urban patrol]

have you decompiled the game?

[silver herald]

I haven't. I assume that's done using the 'ILSpy' mentioned in the Getting Started tutorial on the Wiki?

[urban patrol]

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[silver herald]

Where would I type in '!decompile'?

[brittle pasture]

nic already did; you just follow the link above

but yes ilspy

[silver herald]

Ah, okay.

[brittle pasture]

you'd need to patch the game's end of night handling to change the part of the code that says "if item shipped > 0 show item shipped menu"

[silver herald]

And I could do that directly once the game is decompiled?

[brittle pasture]

!harmony you'd use this

[ocean sail]

Harmony is a framework for patching .NET code, allowing you to take any portion of the game's logic and insert or substitute your own. This gives you more flexibility and control than SMAPI helpers and events, at the cost of being typically more complex and difficult to use safely and correctly, and more likely to break with a future update of the game and/or SMAPI.

If you are trying to do something that isn't possible or practical with SMAPI alone, then Harmony is usually the solution.

For more information, refer to the following:

• Harmony Modder Guide - Intro, Use Cases, Initial Setup
• Tutorial: Harmony Patching - Types of patches and code examples
• Decompiling Stardew Valley - For finding methods to patch

To use this command, type !harmony.

[silver herald]

Find the IF statement, remove it, and recompile?

[brittle pasture]

no recompiling involved

[urban patrol]

decompiling is just so we can read the game code to know what to do

[brittle pasture]

Game1.showEndOfNightStuff is where the relevant logic happens

now I think this can also be done without Harmony and just inserting the menu in the DayEnding event, maybe

not sure about the order of the sequence though, I guess that can be an exercise left to the reader

definitely set up a working C# mod first via the tutorial and then you can continue from there

[silver herald]

I did complete the mod in the Wiki tutorial. Basically just logs the player's keystrokes in the command window.

[calm nebula]

That menu might be special

Some menus (that might be one of them) kick off tasks

Like the save task, etc

[brittle pasture]

so there's a queue of menus on day end and the shipping menu seems to be separate from the save menu

[ornate drift]

um

my NPC got stuck when he re-entered the bakery

like from the entrance

he was out of bounds

[brittle pasture]

inserting the shipping menu might work, but one issue I see is that DayEnding runs before the game's day ending handler which collects all the items to be shipped

[ornate drift]

oh nvm the xy coord is wrong

[brittle pasture]

honestly the most worry free solution is probably straight up transpile the part that says "if item > 0 show shipping menu"

[silver herald]

Transpile?

[brittle pasture]

which is ironically the most technically difficult one

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Harmony_Patching#Transpilers

[silver herald]

Alright....so start by decompiling the game, download and read up a bit on this Harmony thing, and then learn how to use Transpilers?

[brittle pasture]

yeah
it does suck that your simple mod idea is actually very difficult to implement in practice

[calm nebula]

The game is Like That tbh

Something something xkcd bird identification

[ornate drift]

er

how do i add a sleep sprite

[verbal glacier]

Data/animationDescriptions

[ornate drift]

am i supposed to add that to a json

or

[verbal glacier]

Yes

[urban patrol]

are you looking at the schedules page? i think that’s where animation information is

[ornate drift]

there is yes

all lowercase

[urban patrol]

then yeah follow the wiki

[ornate drift]

so {{ModI}}_speedymanny_sleep

but like how does it know where my sleep sprite is on the spritesheet

[urban patrol]

you tell it

that’s what an animation definition is

[latent mauve]

Part of the animation description is which sprite indexes/frames are used.

[ornate drift]

there's specific numbers for each frame?

[verbal glacier]

this sets the sleep frame to 50

the beginning is the intro part of your animation, the middle is the part which loops and the end is the exit

[latent mauve]

So, depending on the size of your character (as defined in Data/Characters), each part of your sprite sheet has a different sprite index, starting with 0. It works exactly the same way with every other asset spritesheet in the game. 🙂

[ornate drift]

do i add this to content or schedules

[verbal glacier]

you can add it into schedules and then include it into content

[ornate drift]

oh alr

[verbal glacier]

or just add it to content

[ornate drift]

yeah adding it to content
no reason to add it to schedules since schedules will just load it up once i do the sleep command

i think?

[urban patrol]

you decide where you put patches for your own internal organization. Include just means “copy paste all patches from this file here into content.json”

you aren’t loading any patches

[ornate drift]

i see

ty

[latent mauve]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Overworld_sprites

For the sprite index info ^

[verbal glacier]

you can also have a seperate .json just for animationDescriptions

just include it in content.json

[ornate drift]

are animation descriptions also used for events?

[calm nebula]

No

Schedules only

[ornate drift]

interesting

[latent mauve]

Events use different methods to pull specific frames

[barren tapir]

Is it a faux pas to repeatedly make mods that add only 1 machine? Currently I have the following mods, each of which only adds one machine:

• Floral Tea Brewer (makes floral tea from flowers)
• Seed Sifter (turns mixed seeds to seasonal seeds)

However, I have ideas for various other miscellaneous machines that I want to work on (a new furnace, a sapling aging machine, and bug lamp just to name a few), and they don't really feel like they'd make sense to be in one mod.

My Expanded Slime Ranching and Alchemy mod adds multiple machines, but they all feed into one another and/or work to bring the additional depth I was hoping to provide to slime ranching.

[lucid iron]

You can release a mod that changes a single pixel in a texture if you want

That shouldn't stop anyone

[urban patrol]

not that i’m accusing you of this at all, but sometimes users who upload a bunch of small mods (for example, each mod adds one fruit) could be accused of DP farming, if it seems like those low effort mods are simply aimed at getting the maximum number of downloads. however chu is right there’s no “good enough” for a mod

[lucid iron]

Wow this bass aint broken tragic

Junimos pls fix

[barren tapir]

What's DP?

[urban patrol]

donation points on nexus

a very tiny currency

[fierce vault]

i thought i read somewhere that you only get DPs based on each unique download for your entire catalogue of mods... is that true?

[urban patrol]

it’s a secret since they changed it

[fierce vault]

Oh?

[urban patrol]

but yeah i believe they did weight repeat visitors lower

[ornate locust]

They try to keep people from gaming the system, because people gaming the system leads to that guy who posted like 200 mods that were all niche Skyrim shouts that made a NPC do a specific animation

[fierce vault]

Ok, well weighting them lower sounds more fair than removing them all!

[urban patrol]

yeah that’s the DP farming i was talking about

[ornate locust]

Well, a repeat download is possibly just people downloading an update

[urban patrol]

https://www.nexusmods.com/about/donation-points

[ornate locust]

Or just playing a second time. Basically you could game THAT system by doing a ton of useless updates that just cause people to redownload

[urban patrol]

yeah i think UDLs are more “valuable” but the same user uniquely downloading 200 mods from the same author is less valuable afaik

[ornate locust]

or just having your friends download the mod a lot of times

[fierce vault]

Oh, I thought you meant repeat downloads, as in a person gets people interested in their other mod

[urban patrol]

this is what i meant yeah

[fierce vault]

I did not know this was counted

at all

[ornate locust]

it isn't

[fierce vault]

oh ok

[ornate locust]

I just misunderstood what was meant by "repeat visitors", that sounded like it meant for the same mod

[urban patrol]

i could have been clearer sorry

[barren tapir]

Nah, my thing is just that it doesn't make sense to me to group together those unrelated mods. For example, the furnace mod I mentioned will add a new furnace that uses solar essence as fuel instead of coal. I'm currently debating whether to add other versions of machines that do this (which, if I do end up doing, I'll add to this mod). To me it makes sense to group those machines together sense they'd all work towards my goal of the mod ("Add more uses for solar essence").

However, it doesn't make sense to me add mods with different mission statements to said furnace mod (I tend to set out with set goals for my mods, usually revolving around adding uses for unused items).

[ornate locust]

No, that makes sense. That's fine

The rules are to discourage stuff like, as mentioned, the guy clearly spamming mods

[silver herald]

bool flag = false;
if (Game1.player.displayedShippedItems.Count > 0)
{
Game1.endOfNightMenus.Push(new ShippingMenu(Game1.player.displayedShippedItems));
Game1.player.displayedShippedItems.Clear();
flag = true;
}

Alright. So I can identify the decompiled code that I want to "fix".

But how does this help create a mod?

It's not like I can just make the change I want, recompile, and then play the game, right?

[brittle pasture]

your mod uses Harmony to patch that code into something else

[lucid iron]

What is the context here

[brittle pasture]

they want to make the shipping menu always show even with 0 items shipped

[silver herald]

As a complete beginner to modding.

[brittle pasture]

see the tutorials linked previously to see how you'd set up Harmony

[lucid iron]

Ah so you need to target the if (count > 0) bit

[silver herald]

Exactly.

[lucid iron]

And use a transpiler to turn that into unconditional jump

[silver herald]

If that's the easiest way to accomplish this, yes.

[lucid iron]

(Idk what the IL looks like around here, might be unconditional no jump)

[silver herald]

around here?

[lucid iron]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Transpilers

[uncut viper]

i would also double check that the shipping menu constructor doesn't explode in some way if given an empty enumerable

[lucid iron]

It's unfortunate that you picked a terrible thing buried deep in the new day method as your first mod

[lucid iron]

This guide describes how2 transpiler

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid iron]

Follow the normal C# modding guide for how to setup a project

[lucid iron]

After u get it to work u can then check this

Maybe need to patch more things around ShippingMenu

[barren tapir]

I'm still waiting to attempt harmony patching for my slime mod, considering the fact that I only just got the (rather simple) C aspect of it working. I did have the recent realization that Happy Home Decorator may have what I need though (i.e., logic for what to do when using fairy dust on an object).

I'm not in any rush though. I view that mod as a long term project that I can gradually build on as my skill progresses. I already know for a fact that there are going to be way more difficult things I'll need to do in C (e.g., slime balls that change color and item drops based on the slimes in the slime hutch, logic for handling big slimes, and probably the logic for quality boosting towers in the hutch, just to name a few).

[lucid iron]

Ig another approach could be to "ship" some kinda dummy item and ignore it in a patch in ShippingMenu

I don't know which one is better

[gaunt orbit]

https://github.com/tlitookilakin/HappyHomeDesigner/blob/b8088aa25c6224685bff7ba7e9ea6004f5b4e8f3/Patches/FurnitureAction.cs#L20

If you're using it for machines, I think those have a separate dedicated method for applying fairy dust which you could prefix. I did it this way because I needed to specifically apply it to furniture, which obviously doesn't have machine logic

[cyan jungle]

hi guys does anyone have any knowledge on how to make custom schedules/warps/paths? i'm honestly not really sure how to ask since i am making a custom npc but am having trouble with schedule

[half tangle]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Schedule
That should cover schedules. NPCs use both regular warps that the player uses and NPCWarps (which the player cannot use). The game decides the path they take based on schedules and warps.

[fierce vault]

oh, I did not know that npcs could also use regular warps. Interesting

[buoyant moon]

I haven't looked into map stuff at all but I thought that would be how they enter/exit buildings

[cyan jungle]

my issue is my npc spawns in the custom house, but when it comes time for them to leave the house, they walk through walls instead of using the warp. when i was able to get them to leave the house, they just stood outside the door and didnt move all day

[half tangle]

Hopefully someone with actual NPC creation experience can offer more specific advice, but I would double check that your custom map doesn't have any stray warps that they may be trying to path to instead

[cyan jungle]

i checked that too and there are none ;-; thanks anyway

[half tangle]

!json if you share your code using this, someone should be able to take a quicker look

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[urban patrol]

can you send your map

i suspect what cam said

[cyan jungle]

you mean the code of my map? in tiled?

[urban patrol]

the .tmx file, i can open it in tiled and view the map properties

or you could just screenshot those

[cyan jungle]

here is the tmx

[urban patrol]

hmm okay you do only have the one warp in there

do you add any warps via EditMap patches?

[cyan jungle]

yes the other warp is on the forest map

[urban patrol]

i mean to this map specifically

[cyan jungle]

in the forest map, there is a edit data thing where if you touch the door from the outside it leads to the inside. it works perfectly fine for my character but my npc doesnt even recognize the warp that leads to the outside of the house

there is some kind of issue with pathfinding where the npc doesnt recognize the warp unless i specifically tell them to step on the tile that warps in the schedule. after that, they dont know what else to do. otherwise, they walk through walls without finding the path to the exit of the house

[urban patrol]

are they able to exit their room? i think your Doors might be malformed

ah yeah you need 4 args https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide#Map_Property:_Door

[cyan jungle]

yes if you look in the tmx, they spawn on tile 6,6 which is right around the center

[urban patrol]

oh i mixed up the bedroom and the kitchen

okay so unrelated issue then

[cyan jungle]

i havent tried looking at interior doors yet, i wanted them to leave the house first

just to try and get a schedule, then focus on doors and details

[urban patrol]

can you send their schedule?

[cyan jungle]

yes it's kinda messy tho

[urban patrol]

and can you also patch export Maps/Forest and send that

i'll brb i have to put laundry in

[cyan jungle]

yes

[urban patrol]

what on earth is with tilesheetinator thinking your tilesheets are prefixed with Maps_...

that's probably not your problem but i'm having to manually find all these tilesheets now

so bear with me

[cyan jungle]

oh im so sorry ;-; i dont know what happened there

[urban patrol]

would you mind screenshotting your map patch so i can compare it to the raw data i have? it's faster than me asking for your custom tilesheets and manually finding the vanilla ones

[verbal glacier]

Post 900 and 1200 in your schedule you use , instead of / which may be causing the schedule to break.

[cyan jungle]

is this what you mean? i apologize if it's not

[urban patrol]

yep thank you!

i wanted to see if their way was blocked by another warp

[cyan jungle]

i do have a patch with only the house and its surrounding area

[urban patrol]

this is correct, and adding onto this, you can't start a schedule with 0600. it should be 0 or 0610, but you actually don't even need that if you just want them to be at their spawn point until 0900

[cyan jungle]

i see. i only made them start at their spawnpoint at 6 for debugging purposes because i wanted them to be able to exit and enter the house before getting a good schedule

[urban patrol]

yeah if you just change it to 0610 or remove it entirely you can test to see if it works

[cyan jungle]

i will test that right now one second

should i write each step as a singular line instead of using / ?

[urban patrol]

no, you must follow the format as explained on the wiki

each entry must be formatted like
"Mon": "0610 Location x y z/0900 Location x y z/1700 Location x y z",

with x y z being coordinates and facing direction

[cyan jungle]

alrght! i changed the 600 to 0610 i will test it right now

so unfortunately it's still the same. it's like at 9 am the npc tries to look for a way to go to forest like my schedule says and ends up walking through the wall because it cant find a pathway or something

there are no smapi errors because the code is technically correct

[urban patrol]

did you start a new save or sleep?

[cyan jungle]

no i just loaded the game and went to look

[urban patrol]

you need to do one of those. schedules are calculated at the end of the day

[cyan jungle]

okay i will do that

i slept and its still the same ;-;

[urban patrol]

what does your schedule look like now?

[cyan jungle]

i removed the 0610 altogether because i remembered i had set a spawn point in the npc data json

[urban patrol]

what is your character's internal name?

[cyan jungle]

Eugene

[urban patrol]

also just for future reference, you should use smapi.io/json to upload jsons

[cyan jungle]

ignore the log it was actually a brain fart lol

is that a command?

[urban patrol]

!json here's the site

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[cyan jungle]

how would you see it then?

[urban patrol]

this is not related to your issue you're having, but you should prefix your character's internal name with {{ModId}}_ to prevent conflicts with any other eugenes out there

[urban patrol]

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

[cyan jungle]

oh okay!

what should i do now then?

[urban patrol]

just for future reference, that's how you should share jsons

[cyan jungle]

alright

[urban patrol]

so right now, he stays in place until 0900, then walks through walls?

[cyan jungle]

yes exactly

[urban patrol]

idk where he would be trying to go, it looks like you only have the one warp in your map

can you patch export your custom map, just to make sure?

[cyan jungle]

yes let me see

[urban patrol]

and while we're at it, just to get the full picture, can you share your patch to Data/Locations you did

[urban patrol]

AHA you DO have more warps in there

8 20 Forest 70 67 7 20 Forest 69 67 7 10 Forest 46 46

he's trying to go to one of these

[cyan jungle]

that's so weird :0

where did you find that?

[urban patrol]

i opened the map and went to map properties

Map>Map Properties>Warps

you must have a patch(es) that add warps to your custom map

[cyan jungle]

that is so strange i don't remember making any patches

should i copy the warp from my original map and paste into the patch export?

[urban patrol]

well it's either you or some other mod doing it haha

no, patch export simply grabs the asset as exists in the game

after all patches have been applied

[cyan jungle]

oh man ;_; idk where to even find that then

like idk where id find what is making the extra warp

[urban patrol]

well you can run a patch summary asset on your map but like... do you not know what patches you added? /gen

[cyan jungle]

thing is the only patches i have added is the 7 10 forest 46 46 warp. im not sure where the rest could be coming from. myabe another mod? i dont remember there being a mod that could do that but i also have like a whole bunch of mods so idk haha

how could i run the summary?

[urban patrol]

is this not your mod you're making from scratch?

it's okay if not i just want to be clear what's happening

[urban patrol]

patch summary asset Maps/YourMapNameHere

[cyan jungle]

it's a mod i downloaded and wanted to edit for fun. not to upload or anything! i just wanted to make an npc. i did thoroughly look at all the code tho maybe i missed the patch?

[young pendant]

do we have any public Pterodactyl eggs for Stardew Valley server setup ?

[urban patrol]

ahhh okay yeah that makes more sense to me now

[young pendant]

you see, i have a 256GB RAM Pterodactyl server tower rack and need to put it to good use

[urban patrol]

if it's a mod already uploaded on nexus, it could be a different mod editing it, yeah

the patch summary asset will list each mod that edits it

[cyan jungle]

ah found it!! but it's so weird because the condition for those warps is having sve which i dont have

here is the json

https://smapi.io/json/none/f8af74d5161b4bebbf054fa005512d71

[urban patrol]

well this certainly explains the tilesheet prefixes! that's so irritating

[brittle pasture]

probably not, because SDV is not really designed for headless server hosting (multiplayer requires a main player to be online at all times)
there are always active mods out there but they're all rather experimental I heard

[urban patrol]

whyyyyy did this mod load vanilla tilesheets

[hard fern]

magic

[ornate locust]

Are they loading copies of them or like... the actual files

[young pendant]

i think not, there's a mod that keep the server always on and hide the host

[cyan jungle]

that may have been me ... because custom tiles werent working not sure why

[hard fern]

some kind of dark magic

[ornate locust]

because the answer to the first one is maybe "old mod didn't have the tools to use vanilla tilesheets"

[urban patrol]

no, this applies when you DON'T hve SVE

  "LogName": "Eugene's House Warps",
  "Action": "EditMap",
  "Target": "Maps/Custom_NPCEugene_House",
  "AddWarps": [
    "7 20 Forest 69 67",
    "8 20 Forest 70 67"
  ],
  "When": {
    "HasMod |contains=FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP": "false"
  }
},```

[urban patrol]

but it's loading town interior and paths

[ornate locust]

Oh that's weird

[urban patrol]

those are in the Maps folder

[ornate locust]

that's confusing

[urban patrol]

yeah lol

[ornate locust]

Bafflement shared

[cyan jungle]

oh i see thats what false means then. if i remove that whole chunk will it break anything since i already have a warp?

[urban patrol]

probably not? you can test on a save you don't care about

i'm actually not sure when map edits apply. i thiiiiink it may be on asset requested?

i asked button a while ago but forgot the answer

[hard fern]

anyone know why if i have question null #<my fake question> it only shows the first word...

[urban patrol]

question null needs quotation marks

[hard fern]

ah

questionss hurt me

[urban patrol]

lol i only know because i use them so frequently

[urban patrol]

i just saw this. you should not load vanilla tilesheets; even SMAPI can now access tilesheets outside of the Maps folder, fortunately!

[old edge]

Hello I am having trouble with enhancing my custom location. I am trying to make the map a decoratable location

I added the type into data locations but I’m not sure what else I have to do

Is it a tile property?

[cyan jungle]

thing is- i was having issues with tiled loading the tilesheets so i just switched to vanilla tilesheets so i didnt have to add the custom tilesheets EVERY time i made an edit

[urban patrol]

!tilesheetinator you will need to either use this extension or else create a separate maps workspace folder and copy your maps back and forth each time. i HIGHLY recommend the former

[ocean sail]

You can use the Tilesheetinator tiled extension to create Stardew Valley maps that work in-game without having to copy vanilla and modded tilesheets back-and-forth, rename files with a . in front of their name, edit maps only in the unpacked content folder or make symlink workarounds.

See the mod page for full installation and use instructions.

To use this command, type !tilesheetinator.

[cyan jungle]

oh my goodness illl have to do that after i debug this schedule!! seems so practical

[urban patrol]

it's the best improvement to modding i've ever seen hands down

[cyan jungle]

OMG THE NPC ACTUALLY FOLLOWED THE SCHEDULE

AHHH

also sorry about that i ran into a bug trying to fix another bug and so on

🥲

@urban patrol thank you so much for your help!

[urban patrol]

yay!

[barren tapir]

Sprites for my next mod!

[ornate drift]

need ideas.... 🤔

[fierce vault]

I think I like coding events in more than writing the first draft.

I think actually testing in game really helps to improve what might be an initially wooden script

[olive lotus]

Is it possible to wedge a CP "when" condition into a line of dialogue?

I basically want to have one line show up if the farmer is married (at all, to anyone) and another if they aren't, and the only thing that seems to do that is "When": "HasValue:{{spouse}}"

I know the vanilla game has a lot of dialogue lines which still trigger when they're no longer applicable, but I don't wanna...

[autumn tide]

could you clarify more about how you wanna use it? GSQs might work for one particular dialog line

[urban patrol]

you can use query

[olive lotus]

Exactly like a game state query (I used GSQs on other lines... except I would have sworn I saw no option for PLAYER_NPC_RELATIONSHIP that allowed for anything but a specific name. And now there's an "any" option sitting right there in plain sight.

This is what I get for trying to write info into this content patch for 4 days straight...

[urban patrol]

[[Modding:Dialogue]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

[orchid glade]

Is there a way to determine whether a target exists, and use that as a condition in CP? Similar to HasFile or HasMod?

[calm nebula]

I dont think so, why do you need that

[orchid glade]

Well, if I want to target a seasonal variant when someone is using seasonal cute, but if they don't have that NPC turned on on the mod, then the assets I'm editing won't exist

[lucid iron]

That's fine ur edits will just be inert too

[gaunt orbit]

The asset will exist, that mod just won't be editing it

I think

[orchid glade]

Ok cool. I wansn't sure if it would throw errors

[uncut viper]

If nothing tries to Load it, then nothing will attempt to Edit it

[royal stump]

CP edits kind of inherently account for assets not existing
they're a set of edits to apply if and when those assets are loaded

[gaunt orbit]

Chu is correct if it is loading new assets

[uncut viper]

You could do an EditData to Characters/dfkjtghdfkg/365983476 and it'd be fine

[orchid glade]

Yes I mean in a situation when I want to target assets loaded by another mod that don't exist in vanilla

[uncut viper]

(Same for EditImage, or EditMap)

[gaunt orbit]

Then yes it will haggle that for you

*handle

[uncut viper]

I wish CP could haggle for me

[patent lance]

New quote added by head_in_the_cl0uds as #7783 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1486138723589554298)

[gaunt orbit]

The content pipeline works the reverse of the way that you're thinking it does. CP does not "push" things to the game, the game "pulls" things from it

(and any other c# mod)

[orchid glade]

So that's why it's sad when the FromFile is missing I guess

[calm nebula]

What are you haggling

[uncut viper]

Another nexusmods page

[gaunt orbit]

Basically what it looks like is this

• game needs something, asks smapi for it
• smapi asks c# mods including cp if anyone can provide it
• if you have cp a load patch, it will say "yes I have it"
• cp will then read the local file and give it to smapi
• smapi will repeat this with edits
• smapi will then give the fully modified asset to the game

[torpid sparrow]

what is the correct format for the content json rn

and also is it supposed to be the version number of content patcher

[uncut viper]

Yes it is, unless you want to support Android, in which case it's 2.8.0

[torpid sparrow]

thanks!

[uncut viper]

(Technically the version number of CP without the last number because CP ignores that one)

[torpid sparrow]

oh fuck i forgot the beach version of nyapu portraits

guh

cant update yet

what is the easiest way to config appearance?

[hard fern]

With a condition on the appearance?

[torpid sparrow]

i know there's conditions on appearances but how do i do it with a config token

[hard fern]

🤔

[ornate locust]

configs are content patcher tokens

if it resolves to true you can put it in a condition

or false

[torpid sparrow]

what does it look like written out