making-mods-general

[ornate drift]

"new year new me" ass code

[gaunt heath]

The NPC ID is the singular identifying aspect of the NPC. New ID, new NPC.

[ornate drift]

anyway, the door is visible, but its not interactable

[gaunt heath]

That's why unique IDs are so important

[hard fern]

it is missing the action door i think

if it exists but cannot be opened

[torpid sparrow]

doors are evil

[ornate drift]

the holy door is impossible to open

[ornate locust]

The door is also a tile too close, looks like

it

it's floating in front of the door hole

[ornate drift]

i forgot to name hte tile property tiledata

fuck

[gaunt heath]

Ok it's getting late and I have work tomorrow, I'm off

[hard fern]

well that would explain it

[ornate drift]

thank you so much for the help

you all are very talented

[gaunt heath]

For the most part we've all just been at it for years

I started modding in early 2020

[torpid sparrow]

guh 6 years

i hope im still modding in 10 years

[ornate drift]

stardew valley is like minecraft

you cant let go of it

[deep plume]

I started in 2016! I wonder how long the modding community will stay so active

[torpid sparrow]

its almost 2 years since i first started modding

[slow basin]

im trying to follow the custom companions companion ring example, and i've got the ring, just not the companion XD

[torpid sparrow]

i think a couple weeks away

[deep plume]

1.6 brought a ton of players and modders in, I hope 1.7 does the same

[torpid sparrow]

hopefully forever :3

[ornate drift]

god DAMN

Elle more like Elite

[deep plume]

don't worry, I still don't know what I'm doing!

[ornate drift]

now it shows the icon but still does nothing

[torpid sparrow]

ellite more like elliott

oh my god

[hard fern]

uhh your tiledata is on the bottom half of the door, right?

[ornate drift]

...yes?

[hard fern]

hm

is the log saying anything...

[torpid sparrow]

thats what happened when i tried to door

and then i never tried to door again

[ornate drift]

no its just crying about my id change

i even made sure of the map property

wait

this is still haleys base

[hard fern]

wait

no nvm

im tired

i misread something

[ornate drift]

my brain is melting

[torpid sparrow]

hi tired im forsy

[ornate drift]

and the door

tile property

[hard fern]

ok and that is the name of your npc, yes? (sorry for asking the same question all the time haha)

[ornate drift]

yes

and dw i ask too many all the time

[torpid sparrow]

uh does moddid work in tiled?

i thought it didnt

[gaunt heath]

psssst as I brush my teeth, {{ModID}} doesn't work in tiled

[torpid sparrow]

score

[ornate drift]

bro 🥀

[gaunt heath]

You need to put your actual mod id

[ornate drift]

speedy.mannynpc?

[torpid sparrow]

if thats ur modid

then yes

[ornate drift]

grrrrrrrrrrr

[torpid sparrow]

yes

speedy.mannynpc

[ornate drift]

im gonna get tired of hearing my name AND my sonas name everytime

[torpid sparrow]

well just in tiled

[ornate drift]

and in patching

[torpid sparrow]

thats funny tilly is my sona too

although this version of tilly isn't really

Dew!Tilly

[gaunt orbit]

damn, turns out c# ignores the sign when checking for zero equality on floats

[jaunty shuttle]

Now i'm curious

[torpid sparrow]

about quoi

[hard fern]

i, for one get tired of writing my mod id every time i have to use it in a console command XD

[calm nebula]

What did you do

[hard fern]

at least in vsc i can just go {{ModId}}

[torpid sparrow]

ugh yeah its the worst

[ornate drift]

[torpid sparrow]

hi parrot

[ornate drift]

i hate this game 💔

is it because i dont have manny discovered yet

[torpid sparrow]

dont think so

[hard fern]

uhh if it's his room then are you friends with him

[ornate drift]

no hes ??? on the social tab

[torpid sparrow]

does it give u any popup

[ornate drift]

nothing no

[torpid sparrow]

then i dont see why not discovering him would be an issue

given that we get popups for all the vanilla villagers

even if we havent met them

and thats how it is in other mods too

[ornate drift]

oh yeah the exit is also bugged lmao

[torpid sparrow]

what the issue IS however i do not know doors hate me and i hate doors

[gaunt orbit]

I have a depth offset property stored in a data object, and I wanted a way to use flag values to indicate if it should instead just BitIncrement or BitDecrement the base depth value instead of adding the offset. I thought +0 and -0 would be a convenient way to do that

[calm nebula]

I have questions but also

[ornate drift]

doors themselves are bad

doors from roblox is peak

[acoustic compass]

Oh, if you’re trying to get into npc houses, would it be possible to cheat in the key to the town for that?

[ornate drift]

its a custom NPC mod

[torpid sparrow]

in the process of making the house

[ornate drift]

im trying to make it so you cant access Mannys house until youre friends with him

[torpid sparrow]

not playing :3

[hard fern]

key to the town should work for that though

[gaunt orbit]

what questions?

[hard fern]

or wait

[torpid sparrow]

no

[calm nebula]

Well I was gonna a say this but maybe not

[ornate drift]

actually wait...

[calm nebula]

MathF.Sign(Single) Method (System) | Microsoft Learn https://share.google/MNE6YLzm3TCBiA51M

[gaunt orbit]

-0 is a perfectly valid floating point number

[ornate drift]

wtf

[torpid sparrow]

key to the town is FRONT door

[ornate drift]

i have the key

[hard fern]

no yeah im confusing myself

[gaunt orbit]

returns zero for both +0 and -0

[torpid sparrow]

no its front door speedy

[ornate drift]

oh right riht

[torpid sparrow]

not for interior door like that

[gaunt orbit]

that was one of the first things I tested

[calm nebula]

Oh. Hmmm

[ornate drift]

interior doors are EVIL

[calm nebula]

What about.....hnmm

[hard fern]

the door to my npc's house is just like leah's and elliott's where it is also their "room door" so to speak so i mixed up the two lol

[torpid sparrow]

yeah so is tillys and peeta doesnt have a bedroom door

sorry peeta couldnt figure it out

no door for u

[gaunt orbit]

that stackoverflow suggestions are either unsafe reinterpret casts or BitConverter

[hard fern]

where does tilly even live

[torpid sparrow]

her house

above the blacksmith

[calm nebula]

Casting as an int

[gaunt orbit]

I will probably just add a second bool field instead

[ornate drift]

its also awfully dark

[torpid sparrow]

oh u can add lighting

[calm nebula]

I was about to suggest a reinterpret cast!

[ornate drift]

let there be light 🗣️

[calm nebula]

Lol

[slow basin]

my companion ring issue is probably really obvious and im just overlooking it 😭

[gaunt orbit]

I think putting unsafe code in a mod is a good way to make people afraid

[slow basin]

but i feel so silly

[gaunt orbit]

lol

[ornate drift]

wait wtf where is that lightsource on the right coming from

?????? theres literally nothing there

[hard fern]

what's going on here

[calm nebula]

I've put unsafe code in a mod! SMAPI doesn't tell on you!

[ornate drift]

ignore that i forgot to add the front

[gaunt orbit]

really? huh, maybe I will do that then

[gaunt heath]

Check your map properties, you probably inherited the map property lighting from Haley's house

[slow basin]

I no longer think its the ring and believe it must be the CC information =-=

[cobalt lance]

Stop using CC and look up trinket tinker

Well I guess a ring vs a trinket eh

[ornate drift]

wait

the wiki mentions something about having a tilesetID like 1 or 2 (im using towninterior)

what if im using multiple tilesetIDs

im using bakery and bathroom right now

[calm nebula]

but yeah, bitconvertor, then mask the 32'd bit

[gaunt heath]

Those are arbitrary, the game just happens to name them 1 and 2

[hard fern]

uhhh not sure what you're asking about here

[ornate drift]

oh

kailey go to bed (even though i want you to help me)

[gaunt heath]

You use whatever tilesetID you have set, there's a guide to identifying it in the door tutorial

[slow basin]

i might try trinket tinker to see if its easier to get working tbh

[cobalt lance]

Seriously tho highly recommend trinket tinker for a companion over CC, unless it needs to be a ring specifically, I can also show you how to include a setting in your mod to enable trinkets from the beginning

[gaunt heath]

Aw heck yeah I opened discord for a reason

[slow basin]

i see!

[gaunt heath]

AH

[ornate drift]

ive been trying for the past HOUR

to get this door to function

the door just wont door

of all things id get stuck on i never expected it to be a simple door like DAMN

[slow basin]

the only reason i was gonna make it a ring was because i figured i could add it to a shop in care a lot

[gaunt heath]

That tutorial was written in a fit of passion

[hard fern]

one time i couldn't get a door to work and it was because i had offset my objects layer from the tile layer somehow and it fucked everything up.

[cobalt lance]

Adding a trinket to a shop is easy, I just did that yesterday. It works like any other object basically. Tinker trinket is also very powerful and has a lot of extra cool features. I set up one of my trinket companions to attack enemies for example.

[gaunt heath]

#images-and-memes message
Anyway I had come back to send my group chat this image, good night

[cobalt lance]

Night night!!

[buoyant moon]

Having Leah be in the first thing I'm writing has been.. interesting, with how her 8 heart event is conditional on an earlier choice, so I need to account for that in a number of ways

[slow basin]

ooh ok! yee ill probably switch over to TT then i've just never utlized it before lmao

[cobalt lance]

The documentation is really good, I self-taught everything so far

[slow basin]

awesome pawesome!

[ornate drift]

maybe theres an issue in the map properties itself

[fathom hound]

does anyone know where i can find the movie theater junimo plushies at?

[hard fern]

furniture?

[fathom hound]

yay thank you!

[ornate drift]

maybe its because Manny hasnt been warped to that house yet?

hes just chilling in Town atm

[hard fern]

an npc being in their room doesn't make a door stop working

*not being

[ornate drift]

damn

i havent done anything related to the door animations

maybe its that?

[hard fern]

the door animates itself though

some kind of magic

[ornate drift]

hmmm

what about patching?

[hard fern]

patch what

[ornate drift]

nvm thats related to custom doors

ugh....

okay- we'll get back to this later

now i need to set up a warp

from the bakery exterior to the interior

[broken rivet]

I would like to ask, if I want to use a custom image to cover the style of the flute in the farmer's flute-blowing action when players use a custom newly added horse flute, what mod can be used to achieve this?

[opaque cobalt]

https://smapi.io/json/none/297f10c5caa04fd0995b79dffbbccb7b
Near the bottom where it edits attendee list for weddings, is there a way to do it so that it makes characters use specific sprite/portrait? I thought adding the sprite and portrait line would work, but it does not seem to have

[torpid sparrow]

you could probably edit appearance?

add a conditional appearance that is used for the wedding event

[opaque cobalt]

I have tried running variations of the line "Condition": "IS_EVENT 191393 502261 festival_spring24", with Attendees, default, and EventScript to which none have worked. I made sure it wasn't a precedence issue by having it be -25000. Would like to do appearance, but unsure if I being the big dumb, or if it would not work the way I think it would

[torpid sparrow]

appearance is in the character disposition

if u open up a vanilla character's file you'll see the appearances section

[fierce vault]

is there a way to make a hat have a separate icon for when it's in the inventory?

[torpid sparrow]

u can uhhh is it append?

let me check

[tiny zealot]

i can definitely tell you that line 54 (using Condition on a content patcher patch alongside Target/When) will not do anything

[uncut viper]

You also have a stray Attendees block just outside of anything

[torpid sparrow]

oh actuallyyeah that isnt a patch

[calm nebula]

Ichor I'm in bed but I swear the wedding has an event id

Like it might be "-2"

[tiny zealot]

i think it's -2?

[torpid sparrow]

youre not actually doing anything with the attendees block

no editdata or anything

[calm nebula]

Anyeays

[torpid sparrow]

hmm where did i put my npc appearance edits

[tiny zealot]

the wedding asset is a bit cursed because even though you can add your own event scripts for custom weddings, the Attendees section is global

[torpid sparrow]

{
"LogName": "Edit Abigail's Appearance",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Characters",
"TargetField": ["Abigail", "Appearance"],
"Entries": {
"{{ModId}}.AbigailPicnic": {
"Id": "{{ModId}}.AbigailPicnic",
"Portrait": "Portraits/Abigail_Beach",
"Sprite": "Characters/Abigail_Beach",
"Condition": "IS_EVENT {{ModId}}.Tilly_IslandPicnic",
"Precedence": -120,
"Weight": 0
}
},
},

can edit appearance like this

[torpid sparrow]

oh what

wtf

[calm nebula]

Do Attendees have gsq

Can you gsq against the bride and groom to be

[uncut viper]

Well it should still be inside of a patch 😛

[tiny zealot]

sure, of course

[uncut viper]

Event scripts have the spouse replaced via string text replacement stuff. I dunno what you mean by GSQ them though

Wedding event scripts*

[torpid sparrow]

break free from patches, rebel

[slow basin]

I need to make a quick fix to my silly little npc ill do that in the next couple days

[calm nebula]

I mean change whether or not an attendee attends wedding

Depending on the groom/bride

What if you have two npcs who hate each other

[uncut viper]

By the time the wedding happens the player is already Married

so you should be able to check for spouse

[calm nebula]

Unless in multiplayer

Anyways

[uncut viper]

Im unsure where multiplayer comes into play here

[opaque cobalt]

I need the how can I work this like I am 2 and half explanation. My brain is about as smooth as peanut butter. All I know is that the NPC would be just an attendee (NOT groom or bride), and that wedding id seems to be funkier than regular festivals

[calm nebula]

You see other player weddings

So if you're watching the wedding of someone else

[torpid sparrow]

just confirming the wedding has an event id right

would that work for IS_EVENT condition

[calm nebula]

You would want to check against their spouse not yours

[torpid sparrow]

theyre talking about something related but not about ur specific need

[torpid sparrow]

u want to change the appearance of kent during wedding, then add a patch like this

[opaque cobalt]

okay thanks. I could half understand their conversation, but am rather illiterate when it comes to tech/modding

[uncut viper]

Target

The target player is the farmer being married

[torpid sparrow]

you had the right idea of changing the portrait/sprites based on a condition but 1. you didn't actually patch anything and 2. uhh idk if that's how it works to define attendee im not sure

however i do know you can modify appearance in my example

like you didnt edit any data

u just put Attendees

[ornate drift]

i managed to make a warp for the bakery but the warp for leaving the bakery doesnt work

[torpid sparrow]

eerr did u do it in tiled

[opaque cobalt]

Yep, that part I have. I have an appearance block for an always worn config option and one for event only. What my issue has been is in trying to find what the actual event ID is for the wedding so have it actually work for that event only option. Lacking a solution, I tried method B which was to attempt to alter attendees list.

Okay thanks, will try to fix all errors I have made and see if things start to work

[ornate drift]

it still has haleys base FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

[torpid sparrow]

the others said -2

u should get debug mode mod

you'll be able to see what event id an event has

or you can try debug ebi -2 in console to see if the wedding plays

[torpid sparrow]

huh is that why the warp isnt working?

[ornate drift]

apparently yeah

ran around in the void and randomly tleeportd in front of haleys house

[torpid sparrow]

uhhhh screenshot ur tiled

[hard fern]

if i included bits of narration would you mentally read them the way the narrator does in the stanley parable....

[calm nebula]

Isnt Stanley a mug

[torpid sparrow]

water bottle

tumblr

[ornate drift]

no i fixed it

i think lemme test it

[tiny zealot]

i don't think this will work because the wedding event is created on the fly and assigned the hardcoded id (which i think is -2)

[torpid sparrow]

ahh ok

yeah i was wondering

[gaunt orbit]

did you do that on purpose

[torpid sparrow]

i wonder if is_event would work then

[torpid sparrow]

no omg

fucking freudian slip

[hard fern]

[gaunt orbit]

give me your tumblr url /jk

[tiny zealot]

but you can do debug wedding <NPC> (i think you have to do debug married first, since the event requires you to already be married. stardew is Fun™)

[torpid sparrow]

shortcut has a lot of steps

[opaque cobalt]

Thank you. I missed that. Yep, it worked. Thanks for walking me through how to do it

[torpid sparrow]

oh it did???

[torpid sparrow]

hmmm curious were u already married

[calm nebula]

IS_EVENT -2 should work

[torpid sparrow]

wunderbar

[ornate drift]

the warp is done

[calm nebula]

It only took how many of us

Half asleep

[ornate drift]

yay now thats outta the way

[torpid sparrow]

How did u know im supposed to be asleep

[ornate drift]

this stupid fucking door still wont open

[torpid sparrow]

Yeah fuck doors

[opaque cobalt]

Nope, been reloading the marriage ceremony day. Once I had proper event id, worked as intended.

[calm nebula]

I'm supposed to be asleep tooooo

[hard fern]

the door saga

it continues

[ornate drift]

wiwi wawa

[torpid sparrow]

Oh ok great

[torpid sparrow]

Bear 🫵🏻

[ornate drift]

bear indeed

i really need to give the bakery a makeover later this looks BAAAAAAAAAAAAD

also the parrot just clips inside the roof for some reason

[torpid sparrow]

Is it front

Is that layer on front

[ornate drift]

er

alwaysfront

[torpid sparrow]

Yeah

It be always front of u

[ornate drift]

parrot got decapitated

[torpid sparrow]

Big fan of just Bear on the side

[ornate drift]

the most intimidating thing rn is definitely events

like how am i gonna make the bear move, jump, do something, react

[torpid sparrow]

Well

Move and jump

Are move and jump

[ornate drift]

theres commands?

[torpid sparrow]

Yes

[ornate drift]

is it all done via json?

[torpid sparrow]

Yes

[ornate drift]

damn

well now we got warps out of the way

its time for lighting

!lighting

aw :(

[torpid sparrow]

Oh have you encountered day and night tiles yet

[torpid sparrow]

I just add them on paths

[ornate drift]

dont know what those are

[torpid sparrow]

If u go to paths tile sheet there is little lightbulb

[torpid sparrow]

Ok I won’t ruin ur day

[ornate drift]

theyre in haleys base

no say it

[torpid sparrow]

Another property

To change the windows from light in the morning to dark at night

[ornate drift]

oh it just affects windows??????

[torpid sparrow]

I mean not just that but usually what it’s used for

Not necessarily

Theoretically could do it for anything

[ornate drift]

ohhhh no wonder theres a weird lightsourcce on the right

was wondering where that was coming from

[torpid sparrow]

Paths?

[ornate drift]

lemme check

doesnt seem to be any

[torpid sparrow]

I meant the blue layer but yeah doesn’t seem to be any

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

[ornate drift]

but there are night and day tiles

[torpid sparrow]

Yes

Bedtime

More mod crimes tomorrow

[ornate drift]

nothing on the blue

oh ok

was fun talking to u cya!!!!! thanks for the help

[fierce vault]

sigh, testing my hat to make sure it looks ok on all the hairs isn't great

(it will most likely not look great on everything)

[hard fern]

it has come to my attention that possibly the reason my event fork was not working properly was because i had set a mail flag and never cleared it between revisions....

[fierce vault]

I set skip hairstyle offset to true, but the hat still doesn't sit on the same spot on every head

i guess that cancels extra offsetting?

[inland rain]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/43809

[fierce vault]

well, I'm just going to have to settle for imperfect with this hat

it just will not look right on some hairs

[silver grove]

I need some help with my content patcher mod
I'm replacing portraits/sprites from a custom npc mod, but the new portrait/sprite sheets are slightly different where there's more added/changed. How would i proceed to change the npc data to the new sheets coordinates?

[hard fern]

🤔 can you explain a bit more? what exactly changed?

[silver grove]

For example, the og portraits have slightly different expressions and placements for them compared to the default expressions of NPCs (neutral, happy, sad, angry etc)
The new portraits expressions are more the like the defaults

[hard fern]

hmm, well i wouldn't really recommend changing the positions of portraits for someone else's custom npc, because in order to have it work properly you would need to change that npc's dialogue

[orchid glade]

Your best best is to edit the new portrait sheet to move the expressions to where they are on the mod's original portraits

[silver grove]

Do you mean the actual dialogue or the placement of the expressions in the dialogue code?

[hard fern]

the placement of expressions in the dialogue

[silver grove]

That's what i'm trying to figure out but don't know how to for content patcher

Especially for sprites

[hard fern]

what have you changed about the sprites?

[silver grove]

Updated animations appearance and longer sequence

[orchid glade]

Leave the dialogue portrait codes the same, and rearrange the portraits so they match the original mod (as in, happy in the same place as happy inthe mod). This way it will be compatable with updates to the other mod and any other dialogue made for it which references the original portraits.

[hard fern]

hmmm

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[hard fern]

i know this is for making a custom one but it has all the parts that go into one

there should be a section for animations.

[orchid glade]

If you really want to add new sprites to animations you will have to change the animations in the files that use them, which are usually events and animation descriptions (for scheduled animations)

[slow basin]

ressurects from being eepy
I need to draw this map

[hard fern]

the main reason i wouldn't recommend trying to change someone else's npc in this way is like stated before, won't be compatible if the original mod updates the dialogue or changes anything about the animations

[orchid glade]

Even if you are completely updating the mod to release separately, if you change the dialogue or animations, it will be instantly incompatible with any previous portraits and sprites made.

[hard fern]

[[Modding:Dialogue]] should have all the stuff about portraits, i think.

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

[orchid glade]

But if the point of your mod is to add longer sequences, and extra expressions not used in the original, and if you can't do that by formatting your sheets like the original, then use the dialogue, event, and animation resources Forsy linked.

[hard fern]

mhm, like say, the original has only 8 expressions, and you added two more, those two extra expressions will never be used unless you change the mod to use them, because they dont exist in the original.

[orchid glade]

If they are just in a different order - trust me it's a million times easier to rearrange them so they work with the existing dialogue.

[agile terrace]

getting hives thinking about people rearanging portraits and therefor having to have a different set up for every mod that changes that character

[silver grove]

I see i see I can re-order the portraits, no prob
Sorry for being a bit vague about the mod in question, i wanted it to be a secret but it would be more helpful if i showed examples

[orchid glade]

it's all good, we got there

[hard fern]

we are Finally standing in the right spot.

note to self: do not try and do fancy things with move commands....

although the tea looks like it's on the wrong tile... sigh

but other than that, perfect!

welp. thats all i got.

[void aspen]

Does changing blue layer transparency in Tiled affects the game?

[long jungle]

Lol

But, well, my mod deals with lots of numbers so I've been using it for mathematical equations at the early phase of my mod but once I got past that I have never used it again.

Didn't even cross my mind to use it on when conditions

[long jungle]

Is the silver-haired character an NPC?

They look so pretty!

[hard fern]

ah, yeah, one im working on

[brave fable]

nope, most options in tiled simply aren't used by the game, tiled is very general-purpose

[void aspen]

Oh I see

Parallax not working was the most saddest part for me to realise

It would add so much depth into the game

I suppose additional framework could do the thing, but native support could be nice too

[ornate drift]

good morning

[mellow knot]

@uncut viper i was troubleshooting with airyn and kedi and i think there might be an issue with CMCT and one of its tokens so i wanted to reach out and ask you. hope the ping is ok! Log is here for your perusal when you have a moment: https://smapi.io/log/3feace388f9a4e28b522dd094bad1537

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 10 (10.0.19045.0), with 106 C# mods and 196 content packs.

[near imp]

(i see you didnt get any responses to this, maybe you figured it out in the meantime), but does the horse flute use the playing flute animation from Characters/Farmer/farmerbase (or farmer_girl_base etc)? if so you could potentially write a content patcher pack to overlay a specific part of this tilesheet. youd need to tie the patch to some specific When conditions though, if you only want it applied at certain times. this might not be helpful but i was backreading and figured id toss the idea out

[void aspen]

is it okay if I don't load all my custom tilesets to the Maps folder via json when I do a mod?
I don't really want people to edit it via other mods so is it fine to keep in a mod folder

[near imp]

you dont want them to access it..?

[void aspen]

I mean
I want them to show up in the game on my tmx

just uhh

by keeping them in the mod folder

or loading is necessary for them to show up properly

[near imp]

i dont really understand what youre trying to avoid? /gen

[void aspen]

not access, edit i mean

[void aspen]

making ton of Patch loads for each tileset

[cobalt lance]

Are you saying you're worried about other people having the same map name when loading in their json files, so you would keep the file up a layer?

Data/Map_Name as opposed to Data/Maps/Map_Name?

[near imp]

you can avoid having much more than one Action:Load for all of your textures by naming the pngs strategically the same as how you want them named after loading, and then using something like "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png" on the FromFile

the {{TargetWithoutPath}} token strips down the target names to just the last bit.

let me find a better example, hang on

this is from Growable Forage and Crops:

        {
        "LogName": "Textures",
        "Action": "Load",
        "Target": "Cornucopia.GrowableForage/objects, Cornucopia.GrowableForage/crops, Cornucopia.GrowableForage/fruittrees, Cornucopia.GrowableForage/teabushes_indoors",
        "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
        },

you see they're loading four textures with one action load

[void aspen]

this is much better tyysm!

Cornucopia.GrowableForage in this case is a {{ModId}}?

[near imp]

yes, you can switch it with that token

[hard fern]

🤔 hm, is making a dupe of an event worth it if all im really doing is changing a few lines based on a condition?

[torpid sparrow]

i say yes

[hard fern]

well on that note, can i stick a token in the i18n key, like ex: {{i18n:Dialogue{{Alt}}}}

which would be the key DialogueA in the i18n

or DialogueB

[torpid sparrow]

idk about those tokens im scared of tokens

[hard fern]

oh

well only one way to find out i guess.

[torpid sparrow]

i just did new i18n

[near imp]

i know i18n supports tokens, but idk if it works for dialogue (no experience in that area)

[opaque field]

I'm very basic with my tokens - so far I have some for player pronouns and nicknames, and favorite flower

[calm nebula]

Oui

[hard fern]

merci beaucoup

sigh and now im really wondering if this is a good idea... so many conditions... conditional events...

[ornate drift]

i must find a way to fix this door

i am NOT giving up

[hard fern]

stupid twa

tea

well event works just fine with the tokening

[ornate drift]

oh almighty kailey where are you when i need you the most

💔

[torpid sparrow]

omg ur still doing the door

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide

[ornate drift]

i slept and took a break

[ornate drift]

i did everything

KAILEY

[slow basin]

Question

[torpid sparrow]

no way she appeared

[gaunt heath]

Out sick from work with a cold lol, let me finish my coffee and I'll grab my laptop

[slow basin]

Have you tried seeing if caps matter? Maybe its case sensitive

[ornate drift]

the ritual worked

[tiny zealot]

at the risk of sounding like a programmer, practically by construction something is missing

[ornate drift]

time to open up my laptop

[void aspen]

Can someone explain doors property to me?

or is there a wiki page for it

[gaunt heath]

By GOD is there a wiki page

[gaunt heath]

Here

[void aspen]

oh Im blind sorry

tysm

[slow basin]

Psst wem

[torpid sparrow]

yes, you made it

[torpid sparrow]

me

[ornate drift]

first and second number is the x and Y coordinate

third is tilesheetID whatever youre using first

and tileID is the ID of the door youre using

[slow basin]

Did u see the silly practice map i made to test my tilesheet stuff im working on?

[torpid sparrow]

yes it looks really cute so far!

very cloud

[slow basin]

Yeee 😄

[ornate drift]

no the ID is typically all lowercase from what i know

[torpid sparrow]

not typically, it's just your id

my id is Wem.Bundle

[ornate drift]

oh

mine is lowercase fully so ye

[slow basin]

Aah ok

[ornate drift]

maybe theres something wrong with the map properties???????

[tiny zealot]

many things in stardew valley are case insensitive, but some of them are not and it's a big gotcha when it gets you so it's safest to assume case matters

the only time i know offhand where your mod id would have to be rendered lowercase is when 1. your NPC has your mod id in its internal name (it should have this) and 2. you need a sleep animation for your NPC, which must be all lowercase because reasons

[slow basin]

Because the uppercase is too loud

[torpid sparrow]

this is true

[opaque field]

if editing shop entries and want to say 'show this but only if the person has received this letter' that goes in 'condition' under 'item spawn fields' in 'common entries' right?

[tiny zealot]

yes

[ornate drift]

hm

maybe its the placement?

[tiny zealot]

i don't know. i just mean if 1. the tutorial is accurate, 2. you followed the tutorial, and 3. the door isn't working, then the problem must lie with 2

[torpid sparrow]

kailey is infallible

[slow basin]

Im so tempted to make a door so i can help

[ornate drift]

but i did follow the tutorial
i added both the map property and tile property

[gaunt heath]

Is speedy.mannynpc your NPCs name? Not speedy.mannynpc_manny or something?

[slow basin]

Oohh true

[gaunt heath]

Ok coffee is done and laptop is charged, one moment

[torpid sparrow]

ur npc id

not ur mod id

what is ur npc's internal name?

[slow basin]

Because it goes (yourname).(modname)_(npcname)

[ornate drift]

is it the one with ModId next to it?

[gaunt heath]

That's your mod ID, not your NPC ID. Your NPC ID has your mod ID in it, but they're not the same thing

[ornate drift]

oh

[torpid sparrow]

send ur content json or wherever u put ur character dispo

[gaunt heath]

You've chosen a very complex project as your first tango with mods

[torpid sparrow]

so its speedy.mannynpc_SpeedyManny

[ornate drift]

thats a mouthful

[torpid sparrow]

put that into tiled

yes

[ornate drift]

i gotta lock in

[torpid sparrow]

u can do it

[slow basin]

I believe in uu

[gaunt heath]

It's important that your NPC ID be unique, so basically everyone's NPCs follow ModId_name. The player won't see it.

[torpid sparrow]

hmm i should probably add a door to peeta i feel more confident in being able to do it

[gaunt heath]

I can help you worst case, it's hardest the first time. After you get it right once it's really not that bad

[torpid sparrow]

when did u write ur door tut kailey?

[gaunt heath]

Good question, uhhh time is fake

[torpid sparrow]

true

[gaunt heath]

I'd have to check the publish date on the wiki but I think 2024 or early 2025

[ornate drift]

i should keep that as a note

anytime i need to use it

[torpid sparrow]

tiled is rly the only time u need it

[ornate drift]

thanks

oh?

[torpid sparrow]

or at least only time i ran into it

[gaunt heath]

There will be many times in life that you name something {{ModID}}_ThingName

It's just standard practise

[torpid sparrow]

to be clear only time u need the full written out thing

[ornate drift]

i managed to make warps by myself

[torpid sparrow]

but u should have modid in many a place

[ornate drift]

[torpid sparrow]

everywhere pretty much

[gaunt heath]

8 July 2024, it took a few days to write before publishing

[ornate drift]

the bakery must become real
i must sell strawberry glaze croissant

[gaunt heath]

As far as I know it's still up to date though, no game updates have touched doors that I've seen

[torpid sparrow]

i was without this tutorial when i tried.....now i will be prepared

[gaunt heath]

I wrote it partly due to a meltdown in the modder group chat

Like three people all simultaneously got got by doors

[ornate drift]

YES OH MY FUCKING GOD

[torpid sparrow]

doors have no mercy

[ornate drift]

[torpid sparrow]

but kailey defeated them

[ornate drift]

kailey is the true coder

goat-er

[barren tapir]

What is this, D&D?

[ornate drift]

wem

[torpid sparrow]

wha

[ornate drift]

can you teach me about day and night tiles

[torpid sparrow]

i could i could

[ornate drift]

like where im supposed to place them

[torpid sparrow]

do i trust myself to explain it well

hardly

there should be a tut

[gaunt heath]

They're decently documented on Modding:Maps

[torpid sparrow]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Map_Patches_and_Warps

[gaunt heath]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Map_.26_tile_changes

[torpid sparrow]

the gist of it is, place the "day version" of your tile, locate the "night version" of your tile, and then go in map properties and identify the coords of the tile you want to change on your map, and then id or the night version tile on ur tilesheet to change it to

[gaunt heath]

Tiled is understandably one of the most unintuitive/intimidating programs to use when making maps or patches for your mod. you folks would not survive RPG Maker

[torpid sparrow]

i barely survive tiled

[gaunt heath]

I like Tiled, it's not that bad!

I also fight scientific software from the cretaceous for a living

[ornate drift]

do i pick the bottom ID if my windows are like this

[torpid sparrow]

you have to do it for both

top and bottom tiles

the tutorial is pretty good

[gaunt heath]

There are also examples on the vanilla maps you can compare against, like SeedShop

[torpid sparrow]

its mostly figuring out what the numbers mean

NightTiles | Front 6 9 1220 Front 7 9 1221 Front 6 10 1220 Front 7 10 1221

this would be your tile is on the front layer at position 6, 9 and the night tile's ID in the tilesheet is 1220

[gaunt heath]

Layer, X coord, Y coord, tile index

[ornate drift]

oh one of my windows is on front 2

[torpid sparrow]

thats fine

it doesnt have to be on front

[ornate drift]

it still identifies as just Front?

[torpid sparrow]

no

[ornate drift]

or front2

[torpid sparrow]

front2

[gaunt heath]

You just need to specify front 2 when you write the layers out

[ornate drift]

oki great

[torpid sparrow]

i think my windows are on front 2

[ornate drift]

what order am i supposed to make the doors in

windwos*

[torpid sparrow]

any really

[ornate drift]

from left to right

[torpid sparrow]

do what makes sense for you

[ornate drift]

i only have 2 anyway

[gaunt heath]

So like, Front2 5 5 20 for a tile at 5,5 on Front2 with tile index 20

It doesn't matter on a technical level what order each window is in

[ornate drift]

Front2 6 5 256 Front2 6 6 288 Front 16 1 225 Front 16 2 257

something like that

[gaunt heath]

Just about, the best way to see if it's right is to just check in-game

[ornate drift]

wait for NightTiles im supposed to find the night version....?

[ornate drift]

the layer its on, x and y coordinate, and the ID

starting from the left, up to down layer

[gaunt heath]

The wiki.gg tutorial wem linked walks you through this better than I can on the spot

It's basically the same process again

[floral canyon]

Hi guys, I wonder does anyone know if building can produce something "passively" like machines do? Like mill converts objects but can it produce objects daily without putting anything in?

[ornate drift]

theres one crcuial difference though

those windows are not the same

how am i supposed to figure out which night window is which

if theres no light below it

[torpid sparrow]

Look at the timesheet

[gaunt heath]

Is it not documented on the wiki? One moment

[torpid sparrow]

Tilesheet

You could probably find it

[ornate drift]

if there was id immediately recognize it

[torpid sparrow]

I swear it’s there

[torpid sparrow]

And if not just use a different window

The right one is the night version of the top one

You could also just layer it onto ur map to see which one fits

[gaunt heath]

I'll write up the IDs and add em, I'll be back in a few minutes

[ornate drift]

found it

thats the front2 night tile

so its Front2 6 5 1253 Front2 6 6 1285 Front 16 1 1222 Front 16 2 1254

the night IDs being in the thousand digits is insane

[gaunt heath]

TownInterior is big

[torpid sparrow]

omg those r the ones i use

1253 and 1285

[gaunt heath]

Ok I'm going to go grab Skell's permission to update this tutorial. For now, here are the matched pairs:
Day Night
256 1253
288 1285

225 1222
257 1254

469 1219
501 1251

405 1220
406 1221

1224 1252

[dreamy dew]

I'm looking into the gift tastes, and there are negative values under some of the NPCs', what are they?

I assume the others are item IDs, but I can't seem to pinpoint or know what the negative ones like -74 are for.

[calm nebula]

Categories

[dreamy dew]

They're the universals, right?

[gaunt heath]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Categories
See here

Category -74 is seeds per that table, for example

[dreamy dew]

Thank you for this.

[tiny zealot]

i recommend using the category context tags for your gift tastes instead of the raw category values

every category automatically generates a context tag on every item in the category. for example, anything in -74 (seeds) will automatically have the tag category_seeds

using that string instead of -74 will have the same effect, but it will make more sense to future you instead of being weird and opaque

[ornate drift]

yay the random lightsource isnt there anymore

speaking of lgihts....

its TIME

to add lighting

[sullen rain]

Guys SMAPI keeps telling me my asset doesn't exist but it does?

[lucid iron]

Send log

[vernal crest]

Also json containing the load patch for the texture, please (or whatever it is)

[ornate drift]

am i supposed to put this in Tiled as a map property?

[sullen rain]

https://smapi.io/log/52162e04f8d446368306dd1ed2bfedf7

[ocean sail]

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[sullen rain]

{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"Entries": {
"{{ModId}}_Yarn": {
"Name": "{{ModId}}_Yarn",
"Displayname": "Yarn",
"Description": "Wool that has been spun into yarn can be used on a loom to make cloth.",
"Type": "Object",
"Category": -26,
"Price": 200,
"Texture": "assets/yarn.png",
"SpriteIndex": 0,
}
}
},

[void aspen]

does door emily always closed till 2 hearts?
is there a way to make several doors with gradually increasing heart requirement

I think I can add some of that to my emily mod in order to lock ppl from some location till hearts are gained

[ornate drift]

i think it might be locked to 2

for all NPCs

custom and base

not sure though

[torpid sparrow]

anyone know how to add in dialogue for the happy birthday mod? does it have to be a separate content pack?

i wonder if i just...target and editdata the english content pack would that work

hhhmmmmmmm

[lucid iron]

You put the .png which won't work gotta Load texture

[slow basin]

can you make it where when someone steps on a certain tile a message pops up

using tiledata

I was wanting to make it where when they reach a specific point on the map and can't go further they get a message like 'You can see the Care o meter in the distance.... Love a lot said to avoid that area, better go back."

[ornate drift]

maybe add an invisible buildings tile and then a tiledata afterward

dont know what string though

[torpid sparrow]

u still need to interact with the tile

uhh maybe mmap

not sure

[ornate drift]

where do i put the lights property

[dreamy dew]

Hi, sorry, again with the gift taste. I'm confused. These are Robin's Liked gifts in the .json file.

424 - Cheese
709 - Hardwood
SkillBook_2 - Woodcutter's Weekly
But in the wiki and in the game (vanilla even), they're:
709 - Hardwood
80 - Quartz
SkillBook_2 - Woodcutter's Weekly
Basically, the difference being Cheese instead of Quartz. What's going on?

[lucid iron]

I think the best way is just ConditionalDoor

[slow basin]

[torpid sparrow]

hmm

im trying to write a birthday party event but idk how to place the villagers

[slow basin]

ig it depends on the space your working with

i imagine they might clump up into their little groups though like caroline with jodi and abigail with seb and sam idk if that helps though

[torpid sparrow]

guh i dont wanna place all the villagers....but i must

i wonder if theres a vanilla event i can take from

[slow basin]

[ornate drift]

are base NPCs able to sit on chairs in schedules?

[tiny zealot]

yes, but not through actual sit code the way the farmer does. you need an animation for it and you call it manually

check Penny's schedule. she sits in several places

[torpid sparrow]

birthday party be like

im missing people

[ornate drift]

some NPCs do have a sit sprite

so it shouldnt be THAT hard, i think

[tiny zealot]

it's not hard. look at how penny does it

[slow basin]

can you lock purchasable items behind heart levels

[brittle pasture]

minerals are universal likes

[tiny zealot]

yes

[slow basin]

like make it where you can only buy something if you have 3 hearts with someone or something

OOO

rubs my evil little paws together

[ornate drift]

ill check it later im working on lighting rn

[brittle pasture]

also cheese is in her like list in vanilla too

[brittle pasture]

(anything listed on the GSQ page can be used as a condition)

[slow basin]

GSQ is which page

[gaunt heath]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Map_Patches_and_Warps
There is now a table of common day/night tile pairs at the bottom of this page

[brittle pasture]

[[Modding:Game state queries]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[dreamy dew]

But it's not a category (negative value), it's specifically the 80 Quartz item ID. Also, 424 Cheese item ID being considered liked by Robin specifically but isn't shown in the official wiki or in-game.

[brittle pasture]

quartz is a mineral, minerals are universal likes -> villagers who don't have 80 explicitly listed in their gift taste likes it by default

[slow basin]

ty !

[ornate drift]

should probably add more lights....

[brittle pasture]

cheese is an artisan goods, and those are also universal likes

(quartz is special is that mr ape doesn't want villagers to like it too much compared to the remaining minerals and thus it's explicitly listed out as neutral/dislike for 2/3rd of the townspeople, and the wiki doesn't consider it universal)

(if your game doesn't show cheese as being liked by Robin that might be a mod issue, because I'm like 92% sure she does from the last time I played, as does most of the town)

[dreamy dew]

It's no written in the wiki page that she likes Cheese specifically.

[tiny zealot]

cheese is an explicit like for her, so i argue the wiki should list it, even though it's an artisan good and therefore default liked for all

likewise it probably shouldn't list quartz, since that's not explicit for her and is just the default value

[dreamy dew]

So it's kinda messy writing then? Putting Quartz as if it's a special case for Robin, when she likes all minerals including Quartz?

[brittle pasture]

read this again

[sullen rain]

Got it working, thanks guys

[brittle pasture]

(I edited it for more clarification)

[tiny zealot]

rather than say the wiki has "messy writing" i would just say it's an error and it should be updated, even though it's not wrong

[dreamy dew]

There is also the forageable items like the Chanterelle, Common Mushroom, and so on, being moved around and not in a specifical universal something (universal loved, liked, etc.) - is it a different case? What's it called if so?

Because some NPCs would have those listed as their liked, some neutral, others disliked, or even hated.

They're somewhat universal, but not sticking in one level of taste like I mentioned.

[tiny zealot]

once again i am resentful that the default tastes are called "universal" and not "default" /lh

[dreamy dew]

I should just follow the NPCGiftTastes.json file, then, not wholly the wiki?

[brittle pasture]

tbh I don't think the wiki cares, nor it should

a "correct" wiki would put quartz in universal likes but then add exceptions to like 2/3rd of the townspeople page, instead of just having it be listed in the remaining 1/3rd

[near imp]

maybe even baseline

[tiny zealot]

(i think the wiki should be "correct")

[dreamy dew]

I don't get it, since it's already a universal liked (minerals including Quartz), why not only mention it when it's anything but liked by an NPC?

[near imp]

universal makes me think it should and does apply to everyone. while default or baseline is like, the general but has exceptions. the words have very different associations, at least for me

[dreamy dew]

Like, someone not liking Quartz (neutral to hated) but they do like other minerals, something like that?

[near imp]

technically correct is the best kind of correct

[torpid sparrow]

is there a way to check the GSQs for the day?

cant figure out why my event isnt triggering

[tiny zealot]

debug gq <your query> will evaluate it in the console for you

you may need quotes, i forget

[dreamy dew]

Yeah, I mean, it's a wiki, which users or players of any media (book, films, video games) would go to if not wanting delve deeper into the codes or behind the scenes.

[brittle pasture]

that is already the case unless I'm misinterpreting your post

[torpid sparrow]

hmm the gsq is true...which is what i needed

thinks

[dreamy dew]

Oh, um, I get that minerals including Quartz is a universal liked - I even checked it - but why is it still individually specified in Robin's gift taste (Liked) specifically?

[brittle pasture]

it doesn't? I don't see 80 in Robin's gift taste file

[dreamy dew]

It does say:

Except Quartz, which varies by villager.
Which I understood as if anything but liked (Loved, Neutral, Disliked, Hated; other than Liked).

[dreamy dew]

In the wiki.

[brittle pasture]

again what I said here

[near imp]

wiki isnt the same as the code though? i dont get it. like things misinterpreted or just clunkily formulated can be stated on the wiki because its just made by people trying to present info in a good way

[dreamy dew]

Yeah, I got that, so since it's still technically a like by Robin, why put it out there still? It's not like she's neutral (or anything but Liked) about Quartz, which is what you're trying to say.

[torpid sparrow]

hm eventSeen eventID false is not working

im trying to make a repeatable event and it is not cooperating

[dreamy dew]

You said Quartz is an exception because some are just neutral about Quartz (or worse), but Robin isn't "just neutral about Quartz", she likes it as other foraged minerals. I was just confused as to why it's written under her gift taste in the wiki like it's a special case or something.

[brittle pasture]

let me just clear things up hopefully once and for all:
according to the game, Quartz is a universal like, except 2/3rd of the villagers don't follow it
according to the wiki, Quartz is not a universal like, because only 1/3rd of the town likes it

[near imp]

could it boil down to how the wiki has chosen to explain this setup to the general public? like this is the formula for stating likes and exceptions that they have chosen to go with?

[dreamy dew]

Well, now this explains it for me.

Anyway, apologies for being slow. I got it and will be continuing my thing.

[near imp]

i dont think youre slow sometimes often i really need to know WHY too

[brittle pasture]

(no prob, I also have issues explaining things at times )

rember when I answered no to the wrong question yesterday

[near imp]

hihi i saw and was like.. wait a minute

two part questions are a sneaky unintentional trap though 🙂‍↕️

[dreamy dew]

This just means I'm gonna have to completely revamp my "cheat sheet" for NPC giftItems.

[near imp]

ooo spreadsheet

i like me a good spreadsheet

is it to avoid having to keep opening tabs on the wiki when playing, for the joy of making a good one, or something else entirely perhaps?

[merry river]

could someone explain to me why the seasonal tilesheets aren't loading in my maps? i am so tired of tilesheets issueshttps://smapi.io/log/a64d93b909b24d81885ba2cb7e17fae6

[ocean sail]

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[dreamy dew]

It's actually the entire XML that you can copy/paste into your save, thus making the gift log shown to the farmer - all the NPCs' loved, liked, neutral, disliked, and hated (excluding universals) are revealed to you without a mod.

I can put it in my save, and Spring 1, Year 1, all the villagers have their tastes revealed to me, no more tabbing in and out of the game.

[near imp]

hot dang!

[dreamy dew]

I also have a "cheat sheet" that basically just have you meet all the villagers without seeing their first meeting dialogue/introduction. You'll have to meet and talk to them as part of the Introduction quest, and with the XML copy/paste, you still have 0 relationship points with them, they just won't be '???' anymore.

Meaning, they will still say their intro dialogue to you as if it's your first time meeting them. But in the save, they're considered "discovered" and no longer have their names "???" which prevents you from even pressing their profile (to check their gift log for example) in the first place.

[near imp]

youre mostly not taking data from an existing save for the gift tastes for this? id be nervous about inputting the wrong stuff something that sprung to mind was a test save with CJBcheats, item spawner, turn off gift giving restrictions and just go to town giving people a bit of everything, then grab the xml from the save. but im stupidly fond of doing things the hard way sometimes, so maybe thats a bad idea too

[dreamy dew]

I know there are mods for this, but I like it that this "progression" is embedded to your save file. And it's organized, too.

[dreamy dew]

Oh, it's my own save, just to follow how the code or lines are written. I had to experiment and stuff to see if I got it right.

No worries, I don't take anyone else's save, that's just unfair. It's my own and it's actually probably written the same as others, just in a different order (gifted items, met villagers, etc.)

[near imp]

huh? no i didnt mean other peoples, i meant like generating your xml through a dedicated save for it

[dreamy dew]

Like, you probably already know this, but the order of gifted items is apparently arranged by which you gave the NPC first to latest, but the arrangement I'm doing is based off of the game's .json files, so it's neatly sorted, imo

Ohh, haha~ Sorry.

[near imp]

ah. i spose it could be manually sorted later after generating but i see where youre coming from

[dreamy dew]

No, I am only using Notepad. I have them saved as .txt files and whenever I want to put them into my save file, I just copy/paste them in. I have to save the save file first via Farm Foundry, for example, because it won't be formatted correctly.

And if I just add the lines in the save as is, it will break the save file. Tested it today and, yeah, that's how I found out.

[near imp]

how does the game handle if you input something thats wrong? does it just visually display the wrong info?

[brittle pasture]

if the XML is invalid you get booted back to the title screen

[dreamy dew]

It won't work, plain, I guess. It'll treat the save as a broken or corrupted save. So when you press a broken save, it'll take you to the main menu because loading failed.

But dw, I tried it on my save, it works perfectly.

[near imp]

i mean aside from invalid due to formatting, example: putting quarts as disliked instead of liked. what happens?

[dreamy dew]

I wish I can show a video. Can I here?

[near imp]

think so? i dont know

[finite sequoia]

I'd like to add my NPC to replace Pierre a few days a week, so I'm using the following code to add him to the list of owners, but I'm unsure what the correct field to actually target is, since Owners is a field. Would anyone know the proper way of adding to Owners without removing the current values?

//Change Shop Data { "LogName": "Thompson Stardew Clerks Shop Edits", "Action": "EditData", "Target": "data/shops", "TargetField": ["SeedShop", "Owners"], "Entries": { "Condition": "HAS_SEEN_EVENT Any StardewClerksEvent1, HAS_MOD AndrewJC.APelicanTown", "Portrait": "Thompson", "Dialogues": [ { "Id": "Wednesday", "Condition": "DAY_OF_WEEK Wednesday", "Dialogue": "Welcome to Pierre's! Look at this shiny name tag I get!$1", "RandomDialogue": null }, { "Id": "Sunday", "Condition": "DAY_OF_WEEK Sunday", "Dialogue": "Welcome to Pierre's! Look at this shiny name tag I get!$1", "RandomDialogue": null } ], "RandomizeDialogueOnOpen": true, "ClosedMessage": null, "Id": "Thompson", "Name": "Thompson" }, },

[gaunt orbit]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[gaunt orbit]

please use the parser

[brittle pasture]

your Entries should be:

"Entries": {
  "Id": { /* remaining fields here */ }
}

[finite sequoia]

Oh! Thank you

[brittle pasture]

right now you're dumping loose fields into Owners instead of one coherent object

[finite sequoia]

And yeah, I didn't use the parser since it's all in one json and there's other data, and I know my issue is def in this entry

[near imp]

couldnt you copy just that bit? it still makes it easier to share i feel

via the validator, even if not used for validation just then

[buoyant moon]

I suppose I could test it to find out but can you put switchEvent in the middle of an event script and have it continue after the called event ends?

[finite sequoia]

I guess so, but I also like to search Discord for similar issues first and using validator makes it harder for others to find my issue

[dreamy dew]

This is just a test save. I'm still not done with the SVE NPCs' gift preferences.

[near imp]

fair point

[dreamy dew]

And with the revelation about the vanilla NPCs' gift tastes, I have to redo the entire base game ones.

[near imp]

really cool! i know as you said there are mods out there but thats not the point imo and i think you agree 😁 like the most low-tech modding haha

[quasi dew]

the good news: my mod works and is almost ready to publish!!
the bad: it's so much smaller than I initially intended 🙁

[brittle pasture]

(I still think a mod is a safer option than save editing)
(I actually made a mod some months ago that edits the save itself to insert gift tastes for every villager, vanilla and modded)

[dreamy dew]

Wdym smaller? What's your mod, if I may ask?

[near imp]

for most users save editing less safe than a mod, i agree. but i didnt get the impression that this was necessarily for a lot of other people

[quasi dew]

just fewer events that I initially planned. I'll see if I can squeeze some more in.
it's just an event mod that adds some baby events and some sprites of the spouses carrying the babies

[dreamy dew]

I see. Yeah, you're probably right. But then again, these gifted items will eventually appear in the save file when you gift the villager the item. I guess that's what I'm doing minus actually gifting them for now. They will be set '0' (not gifted), similar to how another NPC tells you that this villager they know hates/likes this item.

[finite sequoia]

I don't think there's anything wrong with smaller, especially when you can get a finished mod out!

[quasi dew]

I just put sooo much work into it, and I think it's like less than 90 seconds of events lmao

[dreamy dew]

Yeah, I think I get you. It's only for personal things, and but I still have to talk about it here because it's going into the game's very codes or .json files. I hope that's allowed.

[quasi dew]

I'm v proud of it. that's all that matters!

[dreamy dew]

Any mod is free to remove my messages if not.

[near imp]

quality over quantity imo. i wouldnt want a mod thats just filled with poorly thought out or badly implemented crud

[dreamy dew]

It's actually pretty cool, even if they're just events. Gradually, you can think of more and add them to your mod.

[near imp]

i should hope so 😅 if cowboying around with your own game files is no longer allowed, me and a bunch of others are going to have serious problems

[dreamy dew]

Just think about it like that. But what matters is the intent here. Perhaps you can gain better feedback by describing how certain events should fire/trigger, maybe someone can help make it "more" in a substantial way.

[quasi dew]

I'm just gonna try to add some events for the second baby... I uh haven't started on that yet.

[near imp]

personally i often look for a smaller footprint in mods, i dont have count for how many times ive looked at something, felt like it "does too much and tries to put its finger into every pie in town" and then decided not to download it

[burnt canyon]

Hellloooo guys, I have something to show

[quasi dew]

I have the following events:
farmer + spouse admiring baby; baby's first words; baby learning to crawl; toddler learning to walk; fussy toddler refusing their bottle; toddler getting a bath in the sink; and the toddler meeting a pig!
I also have an event exclusive to marrying Sam and Abigail, where they play their respective instruments for the baby. And an event where the farmer and their vanilla spouse take their baby to the clinic for the first time.

writing it all out, it feels like it's a lot more content than I thought

oh and a crap ton of sprites for the spouses carrying their babies around town in a baby carrier :3 that's what took the longest

[near imp]

theres a baby carrier around town!? ++++

[burnt canyon]

Helloooo there, I've made a mod I want to share

[near imp]

youre definitely underappreciating your own effort 👀

[round dock]

Scripting an event is already tedious as it is, Kristin. As long as you’re happy with the output you made, it’s enough. Besides, you can always push updates if you want to add more content than originally released.

[quasi dew]

this took forever because I had to find a mod that let me add more pixels. otherwise, the babies are huge

[near imp]

this is a lot of content! (in a good way though)

[burnt canyon]

Ummm, nevermind then, it seems that everyone is busy

[quasi dew]

share it!!

my depression is definitely contributing to the "your mod isn't big enough" thoughts. so thank you all for helping me realize that!!

[near imp]

i had decided i wasnt going to marry in this save but this mod is making me reconsider and i dont say that lightly. but it sounds like they wouldnt be such creepy little blobgoblins 😅 (no offense intended to vanilla children adorers)

[quasi dew]

the goal is to make them less creepy blobgoblins!! the sprites are super cute (well... the toddlers are a little creepy but shh), and I wanted to show that off

[near imp]

it sounds like this mod will go a loooong way to doing that

[burnt canyon]

I have more mods that I'm working on but I still have to upload them on Nexus, any suggestions or support will make my day

[quasi dew]

love that Alex "cries at your wedding but calls it medical" lol

[near imp]

"ye bro its like my tearducts are just overly strong and active, just like me. i like sports. have i told you that?"

[quasi dew]

also huge props for making your first mod compatible with free love!! some of those compatibility configs are tricky. (speaking from experience with wrestling with polyamory suite)

[burnt canyon]

Thank youuu, I saw other mods that were compatible with Free Love and thought to add a bit of realism to how others react to your life

[near imp]

this sounds so funny i dont use free love but im tempted to download just to read the dialogue text and have some top tier laughs

[burnt canyon]

Thank youu, glad to see others considering the mod, it makes me feel happy to see

[quasi dew]

so excited for all of the free love/polyamory suite future shenanigans when the farmer is married to Emily and Clint

[near imp]

Do you have an education in writing perchance @burnt canyon ? ill be completely honest and say that a few days ago when you were sharing details for so many mods, i started to get a bit concerned about if they were actually written by hand. And well, some things like em dashes have become a bit more suspect in combination with other things these recent times. so thats why i kinda pulled back on giving more feedback

[merry river]

I don't mean to be pushy, I just don't want my question to be buried

[burnt canyon]

I worked with an AI to help write the dialogue since I'm not confident in my writing yet, but all the concepts and ideas are mine. I directed everything — the characters, the storylines, the tone. I'm still learning.

[near imp]

i saw it, looked at the logs and really wish i knew ive been struggling with loading stuff too and have yet to figure out wth im doing wrong

[brittle pasture]

it seems like it's complaining about lots of non-existent files?

[buoyant moon]

I like the idea of Free Love/Polyamory Sweet but they're gonna be a headache and fundamentally incompatible with the rival hearts I'm working on for a while, maybe it'll be a major version bump to add support for them

[near imp]

uh. oh. hm.. i think you might need to review the rules? it should also be tagged correctly on nexus

[merry river]

Yeah, it's trying to find the summer tilesheets but I do have the according tilesheet mods installed when testing?

[burnt canyon]

Yess, thanks for the advice, I'll go ahead and fix it

[brittle pasture]

yeah I was looking at the top errors (which seems not related to your issue)
it looks like it's trying to load Lumi's tilesheet from your map instead of the content pipeline

are you embedding the tilesheet in your map perchance

[merry river]

no worries, it wasn't targeted at you or anyone who has been chatting as I posted my question, I just wanted to bump it in case someone who might help is around!

[merry river]

yes, should I rather use tsx files?

[quasi dew]

btw does anyone know when toddlers go to sleep for the night? is it still 7:00 except on festival nights, where they stay up all night?

[brittle pasture]

if it's another mod's tilesheet you should be loading it externally (put it in the Maps folder while editing), and then rely on the content pipeline to load it ingame

also avoid breaking perms via redistribution

the tilesheetinator probably fixes this I'm not sure

iro halp

[merry river]

oh yeah i'm not redistributing any tilesheets at least not on purpose, if I ever happen to forget taking them out of the folder after publishing, anyone is welcome to point it out to me

[gaunt heath]

Humour me: are you completely sure that 'assets\Maps\void.MM_MushroomMeadow.tmx' exists?

[merry river]

Yes

[near imp]

stupid question time: custom tmx files should be loaded like most custom assets right? so is there an issue in how its loaded? or could the loading path and the looking for the loaded thing path be two different ones, and thats why its not finding it?

[lucid iron]

Looking at this log, all the asset paths are internal asset keys

This means smapi is pulling from only your mod folder and dying

Can u show us what is in the assets folder next to the tmx?

[near imp]

"'SMAPI\void.mm\assets..." is this what gives it away as an internal asset Chu? (trying to learn this)

[lucid iron]

Yar

[near imp]

what would it look like if it was an (properly loaded?) asset in the "content pipeline" ?

or does that depend entirely on what the author has written as a target path when loading

usually just ModId/AssetNameHere or something similar perhaps?

[vivid citrus]

Hello everyone. Has anyone implemented their own tabs? (I'm talking about the tabs in the menu: map, NPC, crafting, etc.) If so, how do I bind a specific page to a specific tab? When I hover over a tab, the game logs show that it doesn't have a page. How can I fix this, and is there an example of a mod that implements the functionality described above?

[lucid iron]

It would be whatever you put in Target

[lucid iron]

You can use https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32032

The vanilla tabs are pretty hardcoded

Personally I recommend not participating in game menu and just bring up your menu with some rebindable hotkey

[vivid citrus]

This may be a silly question, but is it possible to add my own icon to the tab?

If I use the Better Game Menu

[buoyant moon]

https://github.com/KhloeLeclair/StardewMods/blob/main/BetterGameMenu/guide.md#custom-menu-tabs
seems like it?

[lucid iron]

If you use this mod you can do it conveniently

It is possible to do it inconveniently and with compat woes

[vivid citrus]

I got it. Thank you so much for your help. I've been struggling for three days, trying to figure out how to add it correctly. It's been a nightmare. Thank you again.

[vivid citrus]

Yes, I'll definitely take a look. Thank you

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/11026

You can also register ur menu here

For quick access

[vivid citrus]

I hadn't thought about it, but it wouldn't hurt. Thanks

🫂

[ornate drift]

whats the category name for wine

category_wine?

or category_alcohol

[brittle pasture]

do you need the actual wine item or just a generic alcohol context tag

neither of those tag exists; wine are artisan goods so it'd be category_artisan_goods if you want the category

the vanilla tag for alcoholic items is alcohol_item

if you want the exact item its ID is 348, or id_o_348 in context tag form

[ornate drift]

any category that points at all wine items

i wanna make my bear hate all of those

only wine though, other artisan goods are fine like jam or something

[brittle pasture]

alcohol_item then (look at the gift taste of fellow booze hater Penny)

[ornate drift]

i aint a drunkard 🗣️

also thanks

[brittle pasture]

wait no I misremembered

alcohol_item is a thing but the game doesnt use it for gift tastes yet lol (Penny still has every alcohol item listed manually)

[ornate drift]

ah

[brittle pasture]

I was thinking of book_item

but yeah what I said stands; alcohol_item is tagged by vanilla and mods that follow the Convention™

[ornate drift]

ty!

[ornate drift]

oh what the fuck happened

this one works completely fine

[woeful lintel]

yeah, that's why I made FF lmao, the code to compute source rect and collision rect for rotated furniture is straight up wrong: it breaks ins some cases if you have furniture with a dimension larger than 1 tile.

[gaunt heath]

It's so spectacularly busted

[woeful lintel]

yeah, I made rotation completely softcoded (is that a word?) in FF to circumvent the issue entirely.

[lucid iron]

I only ever heard ppl say dehardcoded

[autumn tide]

softcoded is a better word, objectively

[calm nebula]

(Or data driven)

[autumn tide]

softcoded just sounds so cozy

[obtuse wigeon]

Don't suppose anyone knows why Tiled shifts the grid when I select a different layer and how to make it not do that?

[autumn tide]

-# no fucking clue but that sucks :/ i wish thee good luck

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh it seems the grid has gained an offset, somehow, not a small one either, that certainly interesting given this was derived from the vanilla town map XD

[frozen elm]

@lucid iron I have encountered something weird with relocating farmhouse furniture with MMAP... somehow the furniture in the green area gets moved an extra 8 tiles to the left and I have no idea why.
The two actions I'm using are:
"mushymato.MMAP_ShiftContents 1 2 8 2 4 6", // Hallway
"mushymato.MMAP_ShiftContents 5 1 12 1 6 8" // Bedroom
Which would be the blue and red areas in the second pic.
Maybe it's a dumb mistake that I made but I have been looking at this for over an hour and I can't find anything...

[calm nebula]

Can you swap the order of the two

[gaunt heath]

I have never once seen this happen, I'm impressed lol

[obtuse wigeon]

glad to be one of the first to experience it XD

[frozen elm]

wtf, that actually worked. But why? this doesn't make any sense at all to me

[calm nebula]

It's because the blue area post was landing in the red area pre

And then the red area was moving them more

Which is why the solution was to make the red area go first

[frozen elm]

ohh. Ok that does make sense. THank you! I spent so much time trying to figure it out 🤦

[calm nebula]

No worries!

[lucid iron]

Tangential but I realized that I borked the logic that would have upgraded single bed to double this whole time

I will fix it next version but i dunno if i should leave it configurable

[calm nebula]

Smh I want my free bed upgrade, robin

[frozen elm]

I did notice this, as well as the child beds not appearing. Can't really think of a use case where you wouldn't want to upgrade though

[half tangle]

anyone know what SButton is =? I don't see it on https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/windows/xna/bb197781(v%3Dxnagamestudio.40)
I see +, but not =

[calm nebula]

Smapi thing iirc

Big enum, covers both keyboard mouse and controller

[uncut viper]

There isn't an issue, the warning is exactly correct. The mod with that unique ID does not have any config, but someone (presumably you are trying to use CMCT?) is trying to ask it for config anyway.

[half tangle]

the microsoft page is what's linked as the resource for knowing those enum values... it might be some weird use of the + enum actually...

[lucid iron]

Try smapi log context and press = with it on?

It should print the enum name

[mellow knot]

Oh I thought it was this causing the issue

[Content Patcher] The mod 'Cross-Mod Compatibility Tokens' added custom token 'Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config', which failed and may not work correctly. See the log for details

Since I do have a config for dsv

[uncut viper]

That's because it crashed and burned because someone asked it to grab config for a mod that doesn't have any

(CMCT 2.0.0 will fail more gracefully)

I just downloaded DSV Non seasonal and it has no config.

Not in that specific sub-mod

DSV.Core may have config once the game starts up, I don't know, but the Content Patcher portion with that unique ID in the log does not

[mellow knot]

Ok gotcha I will check with Airyn and kedi then ty for the info!

[uncut viper]

You can double check by looking in the content.json of the mod in question. That mod has no ConfigSchema field, so there is no config for it. I don't know how DSV does it's config but I imagine it handles it all in the .Core version

[half tangle]

yep, looks like it's oemplus... just need to fix some of my own logic to get this working correctly... ty!

[crude stump]

why is the dialogue box breaking like that? the dialogue is working fine if i just type anything inside it, but it doens't work if i use "{{i18n:etc}}" the log doens't say anything either

[ornate locust]

You need to load a blank JSON and apply your dialog via EditData

ummm hang on I am trying to find a tutorial/wiki page with further explanations

[uncut viper]

(One more quick thing, I did go and check again and see that DSV.Core does create tokens for its config values which are then being used inside the content.json of the CP portion of DSV Non-seasonal. If these are the same configs you want, you don't need CMCT at all. Any mod can use these custom tokens that DSV.Core is creating)

(As long as you have a dependency on DSVCore ofc)

[ornate locust]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC Okay the start of this has things about blank jsons

[crude stump]

that helps a lot, ty!

[floral canyon]

Hi guys, does anyone know of any framework that would allow buildings to produce something daily so you can access it from the outside?

I think it's not possible with CP alone

[ornate locust]

You mean like a mill?

well, other than processing items, but the way you access it

[brittle pasture]

like mill rules but without input? dont think so

[floral canyon]

Yeah exactly

[brittle pasture]

maybe i shunt this into emc idk

[onyx panther]

so, uh, would this work like I think it would?

[uncut viper]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[mellow knot]

Ok that makes sense! Appreciate all the details ☺️

[onyx panther]

ok that won't tell me if it will work like I think it will

it'll just tell me if it's formatted correctly or not

[uncut viper]

No. But it will let others see it instead of downloading a file.

If you send the link here.

[onyx panther]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/70d5102d5acb43e6ba606d08674623fd

[autumn tide]

have not yet checked the code (techincally I have stuff to do-) but that's such a cool idea!

[onyx panther]

wait I fucked up the when and entires

do not write mods while half asleep, everything else looks fine, but you make the stupidest little mistakes

[onyx panther]

yeah it's abusing the dialogue topic and event stuff so much but I mean it should work I think?

[uncut viper]

I'm assuming all these included jsons have the relevant editimage(?) patches?

[onyx panther]

yes

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3cb0209c2ee641139f321270342e9f4c

oh and I fixed the file

I can send the black one as an example

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1464e235f8a641789551d21e5a126521

[autumn tide]

I believe there's a way to make two random tokens congruent if that'd be helpful?

[uncut viper]

Do you intend for the event to be repeatable?

[onyx panther]

yes

but the event is different for different hair colours

[autumn tide]

wait, does the event function as like, a cutscene, or just as a way to determine hair?

[onyx panther]

there is nothing besides some commands to make all other variations of the even unseen

and to set the dialogue flag

[uncut viper]

I think you don't need the eventSeen true at the end since an event will by default mark itself seen, and this could probably all be very simplified with LocalTokens but thats not required, but I don't see anything immediately amiss

[onyx panther]

which prevents the event from triggering until after it wears off

[autumn tide]

got itt, I believe a trigger action may do something similar?

[onyx panther]

well, the event marks itself unseen, so I remark it as seen lol

(otherwise I'd have to write a ton of reused code and I'm lazy)