making-mods-general

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[buoyant moon]

I figured there was a command for that but didn't know what it was off the top of my head

[fossil osprey]

I wasn't sure either, I just tried it x)

[buoyant moon]

Personally, adding a new character requires new art and art is scary so I stick to working with existing assets

[modest dagger]

Frakenspriting my beloved

[fossil osprey]

There is the portrait maker too, you are allowed to use it (completely or as a base) as long as you credit it

[buoyant moon]

I haven't thought about that kind of thing since I briefly tried making a sprite comic about 25 years ago

[modest dagger]

It's a great way to get started with portraits or any sprites really

[vernal crest]

You appear to somehow have a broken config.json file which I've never seen before. In a mod called Z_Vanilla?

[subtle palm]

Yes, it is. I'm checking the validation on the json and I think (hopefully?) that I have wrong symbols on the ending of the coding?

[vernal crest]

You shouldn't be editing the config.json at all

Just delete it

Is Z_Vanilla your farmhouse mod?

[subtle palm]

Yes

[vernal crest]

Okay, delete your config.json and then run the game again and do what I asked before and then grab another log

[subtle palm]

https://smapi.io/log/f29ca118fbbc4fc293502a32995249a4

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 1 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[vernal crest]

Have you been getting these errors the whole time?

[subtle palm]

Yes, every time I load up the game

[vernal crest]

Well, they're explaining why your edits aren't working. It's because you're trying to use files that don't exist.

Presumably either the file names or the filepaths are wrong

[subtle palm]

I have them under z_ XX should i rename them to the farmhouse1 etc for example?

[vernal crest]

Yes, they have to match what you have written in your FromFile field

[dusk rock]

thank you!

[subtle palm]

I just corrected the names and its still giving me the same errors

[vernal crest]

Do they match exactly? Letter for letter? And they're in the correct folder?

[subtle palm]

I think so? I only changed the extracted files by adding the z_ to them.
Here is a screenshot of the files, not sure if relevant

(Also thank you for taking the time!)

[vernal crest]

Most of your patches mention a Changes folder inside the assets folder so I suspect that is where your errors are coming from. Fix those to remove the reference to the Changes folder.

[ornate drift]

Are there furniture mods out there that let you add more furniture to your custom shop/house in Tiled?

[calm nebula]

Lumi's Indoor?

[vernal crest]

Anyway I have to sleep now so I hope that helped

[ornate drift]

Oooo

[barren tapir]

Thanks! I was planning on allowing you to either make or dye cloth using flowers. I'm always looking for more uses for flowers (also, this may finally give me a reason to plant multicolored flowers 😅).

I'm still debating whether to go the easy route (add a machine that just makes dyes from flowers) or the hard route (add a machine that dyes cloth using flowers). An idea that also just popped into my head would be some way of making prismatic dye from a prismatic gem, but IDK if that's possible 😅

[ornate drift]

though, using another mod for my mod would require everyone to also download that mod...

Meh, I'm just gonna add custom tilesets

[barren tapir]

Nothing wrong with that!

[ornate drift]

I don't like relying on other things to finish mine

[barren tapir]

SO YOU AREN'T USING CONTENT PATCHER?!?

[ornate drift]

I didn't mean it like that xd

[barren tapir]

lol

[ornate drift]

I'm gonna have to design a furnace....

[barren tapir]

I do not envy you 😅

[ornate drift]

Actually wait i can just use this!

Saves me a shit ton of time

[brittle pasture]

my mod already allows (some) dyes from flower via milling wild flowers, so the easiest method on your end would be to add the appropriate recipes to the mill

[tranquil olive]

I think I've made a lamp might change the sprite, but I'm just happy it turns on

[mortal blade]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-moth-pit-weird-moth-dance-gif-12655116

Watch out for moths.

But maybe your fairy feeds on them for snacks?

[autumn tide]

what is thisss /silly
-# i kinda love it ngl

[floral canyon]

Hi guys! I have this dilemma as I'm making an update for my Workshop that I'm not sure what is the best solution to add a cellar to the building. Right now I have just made the map bigger and have a warp from one tile to the other. I saw that Aimon uses this method. What I noticed though, and this might be me being nitpicky perfectionist, is that this method moves the camera slightly up in a weird way, when you enter, since there's so much space under/behind the player. Is it better to do a totally new location+map for the cellar or stick to this? (this is inside a custom building)

[lucid iron]

Since the building is instanced you won't be able to do a separate map

Iirc there's some viewport clamp thing on maps tho

[floral canyon]

That's very good to know, thank you! I will test the ViewportClamp setting

[heady crest]

(sending a screenshot so i dontr have to ping them) is there a list of all these text symbols to emojis somewhere?

[latent mauve]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Secrets#Special_Characters
It's here, under the "Pressing the following keys will produce special characters"

For quick reference:
Pressing < produces ♡, a heart
Pressing > produces ▷, a right triangular arrow
Pressing @ produces ◁, a left triangular arrow
Pressing $ produces ⌾, a double circle
Pressing * produces 💢, the "anger" symbol common in Japanese media
Pressing = produces ☆, a star

They seem to also be the ones that show up in chat, but it's not called out in that section.

[jovial jungle]

what would happen if i gave an item a negative sell price

[buoyant moon]

You'd have to pay to get rid of it? Dunno if there's any lower bound on it

[fossil osprey]

I think it's a way to make it unsellable iirc?

[finite sequoia]

I wanna make sure I'm not being crazy- this definitely reads scammy, right?

[fossil osprey]

yeaaaaah weird

[iron ridge]

im impressed nexus has a warning

[lucid iron]

Wow the discord scam bots got to nexus

[finite sequoia]

I'm not really interested in help in the first place or anything but I'd rather not report if it's just someone using google translate or something

[iron ridge]

but yeah definitely would be very suspicious

[lucid iron]

I get this warning on every dm now

Including my dm with modsetti

[finite sequoia]

If nobody else has seen something like this I'm just gonna delete the message instead of reporting, then

[iron ridge]

they do have real mods though actually?

[finite sequoia]

I coulnd't find a Nexus account called RussetGwen, but truth be told Nexus forums have always been difficult for me to navigate

[iron ridge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/profile/RussetGwen

[finite sequoia]

Plus the pfp is ai...

Oh, huh! I guess they exist. It appears I blocked them though....

I assume they just want to translate though then, since I used to block translators instead of translation category

[ornate trellis]

oh its the kartoshka person

[lucid iron]

What does that mean

[ornate trellis]

kartoshka

[heady crest]

tysm

[jovial jungle]

damn, i wanted to make artifact grist cost money to try and sell

for accuracy

[ornate drift]

god i really don't have the energy to make a bakery interior

[near imp]

HxW tilesheets might have some bakery items iirc?

[torpid sparrow]

yep

[ornate drift]

oh?

I'll check it out

[near imp]

it would add a dependency to your mod, i know you dont like that but its really not uncommon. some of the tilesheets available are absolutely sick (in a good way). i know HxW makes a lot of bakery and other business type content

[tender bloom]

Haven’t you always wanted to venture forth on a potato?

[ornate drift]

oh my god this looks absolutely beautiful!!!

[near imp]

it does doesnt it!

[ornate drift]

I'm DEFINITELY using this, thanks

[ornate trellis]

of course, it is my steed of choice

[ornate drift]

i hope there's atleast a furnace 🤔

[torpid sparrow]

rmb to ask for perms

[ornate trellis]

theres

[torpid sparrow]

im not sure where wildflour and/or hime are most active

although i tihnk hime was around yst

[ornate drift]

I'll credit them :3

[torpid sparrow]

oh wait am i looking at the wrong one

[buoyant moon]

It seems like it's not possible to do an inline dialogue switch with Content Patcher to change just part of a string based on a token and I have to use When to patch separately?

Ideally I'd like to have something like the gender switch for the farmer, e.g. "I saw ${her^them}$ over there." but instead using Abigail's nonbinary flag from DSV or the like.

[ornate drift]

Do most mods have dependencies?

[torpid sparrow]

which one is this

[ornate drift]

HxW tilesheets

[torpid sparrow]

ohhh ok

[lucid iron]

You just require this mod and then u dont need to pack the sheets separately

[lucid iron]

You are dependent on content patcher already yeah

[ornate drift]

Yeah, i can just add that to the requirements section

[near imp]

it depends on what kind of mod it is. a lot require content patcher (obviously). but ive seen maps and other similar mods that require a tilesheet to be downloaded in addition to their map (the tilesheet is downloaded through nexus and put in the mods folder like any other mod). you add a dependency in your manifest file to make it required. but as wem said make sure you figure out the authors specific permission policy

[ornate drift]

HxW gives you like a 100 times the amount of decorations you can use, it's amazing

[lucid iron]

Usually the main reason to use a dependency besides content patcher is bc it provides something you can't do with just normal game data

[torpid sparrow]

i love BETAS

[ornate drift]

Mmmm on my side it's more of laziness

[lucid iron]

Or you wish to use shared assets on a map yeah

[near imp]

having the playerbase download the tilesheets like a mod and other mods having them as a dependency is a nice and fairly organised way to avoid making a bunch of copies of someone elses work. plus it keeps things updated

(not even mentioning it would break many peoples permissions to include their stuff in your mod directly) as i said you gotta figure out specifically what use they allow

[barren tapir]

Am I correct in my understanding of game state queries wherein PLAYER_FARMING_LEVEL Target 8, RANDOM 0.05 would return true 5% of the time when the player is farming level 8?

[ornate drift]

its mentioned here in the asset use permission

[lucid iron]

Yep, comma is AND

[barren tapir]

Great!

[lucid iron]

If u want OR u would use the gsq ANY

[ornate drift]

Now i need to design the interior itself and then add door data to my shop to warp the player to that interior

[torpid sparrow]

interior mapping is fun

i love making interior maps

[ornate drift]

it's basically like making a custom map from scratch, right?

Instead of editing an existing one

[torpid sparrow]

no u can edit interior maps

like haley's house

or any other house/interior

[ornate drift]

oh

wouldn't i need to copy it first

[torpid sparrow]

no people just recommend to do so

i think ive built an interior map from scratch before

[ornate drift]

I mean, interior mapping from scratch sounds easier for me personally

idk

you'll just have to add a bunch of PNG tilesets lol

[torpid sparrow]

yur

i mean its like four

[near imp]

i think they recommend always starting with an existing map? i guess take some random villagers house and then make sure to change all the bits that identify it so (but probably dont listen to me im having terrible luck lately )

[torpid sparrow]

town interior town interior 2 paths

furniture

[ornate drift]

wouldn't that overlap with the already existing haley house

[near imp]

no you change all the bits that makes the game think its haleys house

[torpid sparrow]

wdym

[ornate drift]

ohhh

okay okay

[torpid sparrow]

yeah

make a copy

and then change the warp(s)

[ornate drift]

but that's what i said

[near imp]

but it ensures you start out with some of the default tilesheets, some map properties, that kind of stuff

[torpid sparrow]

you dont NEED to bc you can build from scratch

was what i meant

[ornate drift]

oh ok

i wonder if there's already existing NPCs who already are bakers and sell pastries

[buoyant moon]

Oh right that reminds me, is there a straightforward way to change someone's house to be locked for the rest of the day after an event?

[torpid sparrow]

well peeta

tilly does sell desserts too i think she sells like one pastry (a maple bar)

uuummmm i feel like theres probably others

uhh maybe malaya although idk if she makes the pastries or desserts

[ornate drift]

I'll be the first one to sell donuts!

...i think

[torpid sparrow]

OH there's haley's bakery

[torpid sparrow]

this is truly tilly only sells 1

malaya does sell 1 donut as well i think

the thousand sprinkle

[ornate drift]

damnit

[ornate trellis]

there used to be uhhh

what was the name again..

[torpid sparrow]

no one specializes in donuts tho

at least afaik

[ornate drift]

mwehehehehehe
nows my chance

[ornate trellis]

bread lovers, focused on bread but yeah

[near imp]

you dont have to be the first to sell donuts, you just have to sell the best donuts

[ornate drift]

can NPCs visit your shop?

[torpid sparrow]

whose

[ornate drift]

base NPCs

like abigail alex etc etc

[buoyant moon]

I imagine you'd have to edit their schedules to make them do so

[ornate trellis]

you'd have to edit their scheules or make fake versions of em, i guess

[buoyant moon]

there's also the Merchant mod that does something like that but haven't used it so dunno the details

[torpid sparrow]

yeah i make npcs visit my shop

[ornate drift]

it's moreso optional, to make the interior feel more lively

i imagine adding custom food must be very easy

[near imp]

thats tempting fate if i ever heard

[hard fern]

Yeah, all you do is make an object and just change their edibility value to be edible. You can even make non edible things in vanilla edible by doing that

[buoyant moon]

by default I assume nothing is easy and if it is I'm pleasantly surprised

[ornate drift]

[hard fern]

Compared to other games a lot of them are surprisingly easy in Stardew

[buoyant moon]

that's true, I was talking with my coworkers about how convenient it is to just be able to write a JSON file for a lot of things

[hard fern]

sweats in needing to install like 5 different programs just to mod one game

[ornate trellis]

food is so eqsy to make i made someone called foodgal because i had so many foods laying around unused

[hard fern]

Would anyone here want to eat a bean jelly cube with beans in it

[mellow laurel]

I pass

[hard fern]

Ok i wont publish mod 😌

[lucid iron]

This one doesn't do anything to the real NPCs

[hard fern]

No bean cubes for the masses

[lucid iron]

You get fake actors during the minigame

[buoyant moon]

that's what I figured but didn't want to assume

[ornate drift]

oh layering is way harder in interior wtf

[ornate drift]

okay now i have something to work with

apple

[tranquil olive]

How would you/is it possible to make a furniture catalogue with Spacecore? I think I understand that you need to add the item as furniture, but I'm not too sure on what to do to get it to work like the retro/wizard catalogues

[lucid iron]

You need to add a OpenShop shopId action to the furniture

[tranquil olive]

oh, would that involve Tiled? (sorry I'm not too sure what that would look like, just looking at the modding:shops page and it looks Maps related)

[lucid iron]

Naw u use the spacecore furniture tile property thing

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/43059

It's less common to see this approach vs calcifer but both of them fundamentally require u to just make an actual shop

If u use smithy the furniture catalogue is built-in checkbox

[tranquil olive]

ohhh, that portion, so would it be in a

"Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/FurnitureExtensionData",

kind of section?

also thank you, the example is helpful, I was wondering if there was one when I was searching 'spacecore/spacecore catalogue' here earlier ^^'

[void aspen]

is there any video guide or documentation on how to create custom objects with all the properties with CP?

The one example in wiki is not enough for me to understand the whole thing

like custom food or ores or animals

[latent mauve]

If the wiki example isn't enough, you might have better luck with the modding wiki tutorials: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Tutorials

You usually will not find video tutorials because they become outdated so fast and most don't bother to update them.

[finite sequoia]

Would anyone be interested in their NPC cameo'ing in this event? It's gonna be about Pierre getting overwhelmed with business after Joja shuts down and I'd like to add some modded NPCs into the line 😸 They'd be replacing scarecrows

[trail wave]

Does anybody know if there are any mods that let you till and plant where there isn't already open dirt? That little fenced in area up by the community center is just BEGGING for a little community garden...

[barren tapir]

@brittle pasture Am I correct in thinking you made EMC? And if so, would it be possible to do the following for an output item's cost:

Price = 200 + B*(1.25 + G/1000)

Wherein G is the cost of the provided item for RequirementTags.1 and B is the base price of the input item?

[near imp]

Crops Anytime Anywhere should do it for you For future reference, this channel is sorta more about making mods than using mods The modded-stardew channel will be the best bet for mod advice in the future, but no biggie https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3000

[barren tapir]

Does that extend to looking for framework mods?

[trail wave]

Oh, thank you very much! I wasn't sure where to post the question. Thank you for taking the time to explain for me. 🙂 Does this mod also let you plant trees anywhere? I keep wanting to add them all over the secret forest, but the game just won't let me except around the pond. :/

[uncut viper]

Generally if your intent in asking is because you will use the answer in some way to make your mod, it's fine to go in here

Though ofc if you're asking for like "are there any examples of mods that do this?" then modded-stardew might know better anyway

[near imp]

Yep!

[uncut viper]

Depending on the ask

[barren tapir]

Great! Bc there are probably a number of mod ideas I have that will probably require a framework I didn't know existed and/or didn't know it did that 😅

TBF though, I'm actively working on 2 or 3 mods atm and have a constantly growing list of ideas 😅

[brittle pasture]

no

[near imp]

@trail wave actually hold on i see it says Fruit trees here now, it might not do wild trees, im not sure but theres a bunch of mods to pick from for wild trees too. but if you want more suggestions we could move to modded stardew so we dont clog up this channel

[barren tapir]

Damn. My bad 😅. Do you know who made it then?

[brittle pasture]

roll some C# yourself I think
adding hyperoperations and arbitrary arithmetic is kinda beyond the scope of what I wanna do with price modifiers lol

[lucid iron]

I think as a user I wouldn't actually notice this

If it's a case where you really want player to go ah that makes more money

I'd simply bump the quality

[trail wave]

I thought I had just suggested that... Guess I never sent it lol

[uncut viper]

(Selph did make it they're just saying what you want is not possible)

[brittle pasture]

oh wait, no as in "EMC doesn't support that" not "I didn't make EMC" lmaooo

[barren tapir]

Thanks for the clarification! In that case, give me a sec to rewrite my follow up statement/question 🤣

I had a feeling it'd come to C# 😅. Would you say this would be an easy first foray into C# modding? I have some experience with C (granted I'm rather rusty, no pun intended). My original first foray resulted in absolute failure (I was trying to modify tappers and it was a whole thing).

[brittle pasture]

well congrats, you'd be doing nearly the exact same thing as what you tried

(custom output method)

(but this time you'd need to call EMC API to get the fuels that would be used for your calculations as well)

[brave fable]

for the record this is the first and only time in almost 7 years ive used CP query expressions so yeah you might not actually need to lol

[karmic gust]

Maybe edit the warp to be locked all day after seeing the event, set a mail flag for the following day and set it back after you get the mail flag?

[buoyant moon]

I'll have to figure out how warps work but good idea, thanks

[trail wave]

I just tested and I can confirm it works for regular tree seeds. I only made grass tillable etc, though, and I didn't turn on any of the more cheaty things because all I want to do is make a community garden in that spot that looks like it's SUPPOSED to be a community garden. And fill the secret forest with trees.

[urban patrol]

if you're looking for farmers, you can add my NPC miriam https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/42825

[opaque cobalt]

In appearance modding, for the condition line. Do I just use IS_Event for an event script like weddings or is there a proper way to do it? I tried IS_Event with the words EventScript and default pulled from the Weddings.json file of which neither worked. I do not think I should need to make edits to the Wedding json as I am not changing attendance or where the NPC stands, just what sprite sheet they use for the ceremony.

[floral stratus]

Hello, I'm trying to make a wallpaper mod, but my artist made the designs 96 x 96 as shown in the wiki. Unfortunately the only mod I can find that was set up for dependants to make wide wallpapers is out of date. Do I have to have them redo all their art as 16 x 48 to work with Alternative Textures, or is there another way?

[fierce vault]

how does courtship.reject A and B work? Is B the second response given if the farmer tries to give the bouquet again after A? 😅

[daring skiff]

I think it's based on hearts?

One is if you barely know them. The other is if you are closer to reaching the heart level. The wiki vaguely references this.

[fierce vault]

Oh, i think it might be something that this npc does specifically, because what the wiki says is different.

thanks

[uncut viper]

People who know the decompile better than me: I could've sworn there was some utility function or something where I could plug in a starting vector2 and a target vector2 and it'd emit a TAS at the starting point and accelerating in the direction of the target. Is my memory just completely making this up
It's not difficult to make my own to do this obviously but I thought there was an already existing sort of thing for it, but I can't find it so I'm only like 40% confident it was ever a real thing

[calm nebula]

I have no inkling of that

[uncut viper]

Sad for Button

[karmic gust]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

Under Known Tile Properties in the Action section is more info that should help you. lockeddoorwarp I think is what you'll want to edit but I'm not sure if you can set it to be locked all day long

[calm nebula]

It might exist! I just haven't seen it

I also wasn't aware of a tas pool

Until fairly recently (2025)

[ornate drift]

gonna stream making the bakery interior for a bit

oh damn, theres no voice channel

HxWs spritesheet is a godsend, im loving how this is turning out

[fierce vault]

anyone know the command to cheat in a hat by the item id? Or is the same as the objects one?

wait, I'll see if I can find it in my history

I'm sure someone's told me the cheat before

[calm nebula]

(Just use debug fin)

debug fin <some random part of your hats name>

[fierce vault]

thanks, I'm actually going to be cheating in a vanilla hat thought to get an idea of wear mine will sit on the farmer's head first 😅

[calm nebula]

You can use this for vanilla too

[fierce vault]

oh, sorry, I knew that, I just wanted to talk about what I was working on

...is there a reason whydebug fin H 2 is giving a herring instead of a hat?```Added Herring ((O)147)

[hard fern]

Herring

H

[near imp]

Big Fish has lobbied against the alphabetization of the code /silly

[fierce vault]

Oh, so how do I specify that the item id I want is a hat then?

If h doesn't do it?

oh, would it be T 2 since I want the Top hat?

[calm nebula]

Use the name

Not the id

[fierce vault]

Oh ok 🤦‍♀️

thanks

[calm nebula]

debug fin tophat

[fierce vault]

aha! it worked!

[brave fable]

i don't believe this was ever in the game, but it's fairly easy just to set motion to distance * Vector2.Normalize(target - source) or somesuch

i made some shorthand Vector2.PointAt method for the one mod i needed this in like 50 different places so i never remember it

[barren tapir]

How would I call the EMC API and what functions am I looking for?

[crisp jasper]

hello! I'm making a recolour of Big

fuck

[barren tapir]

Don't think we're allowed to talk about those types of mods here

[crisp jasper]

I'm making a recolour of Bog's haunted animals + products, with permission, and idk what I'm doing wrong but it won't work

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/182ec8703014430a848d1e0ab3c69c18

[hard fern]

recolor of Big.

[crisp jasper]

I pressed enter too early okay XD

[hard fern]

(why do they put the apostrophe so close to the enter key...)

[brittle pasture]

look at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Integrations#Using_an_API to see how to integrate with another mod's API
and check out EMC's API here: https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/blob/master/ExtraMachineConfig/Api/IExtraMachineConfigApi.cs

[uncut viper]

See the part in that same message where I said it wouldnt be difficult to do it myself 😛 I have already done it

[near imp]

they'll probably need the rest of the json(s) as well to help

[crisp jasper]

config and manifest?

[barren tapir]

TYSM! I'll probably start working on the C# mod after I start working on the flowers to dyes mod!

Or before. IDK

[near imp]

im not feeling very qualified to help but theres a big config section here that is attached to nothing later on?

[crisp jasper]

ah yeah no there's a config.json

lemme link em

[near imp]

but like, the config choices dont do any changes to the game for the most part, theres two changes to chickens but all these other animals?

[crisp jasper]

I'm just doing chickens first bc those are the ones I have on my farm, so it's really easy for me to check if the recolour loaded correctly instead of editing in new versions for every animal each time

[near imp]

ah that makes more sense.

[crisp jasper]

this also makes more sense 😭

I am admittedly a noob in json and I was doing it like other simple config jsons I've seen

[ornate drift]

nvm i should post this in art

[crisp jasper]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3c4e589ff529415e86c5d382c2626994

[near imp]

not sure i would pay much attention to what it says about the config.json, that one is from what i understand something of an end product. the validator might think youre trying to make changes with the config.json and tell you its doing diddly squat (which it sorta is)

[crisp jasper]

interesting

[near imp]

its just a summary of the saved config options. so personally id focus on the content.json

[crisp jasper]

okay

how do I fix the content.json then?

[ornate drift]

and now i have to make that interior load inside the game

er.......

does anyone have the wiki link for patching and loading interiors

[near imp]

hmm.. i was hoping there was someone more seasoned than me active at the moment that can help you im not new-new to content patcher but im not as experienced as a lot of these other fine peeps

[crisp jasper]

hmmm

[near imp]

validator is taking offense at my content.json that im currently successfully using to replace animals with 😅 what the heck. is it not updated to accept Patchmode yet since its so new? Anyone know?

oh i think i see your issue

[torpid sparrow]

i think its the same as maps

[[Maps]]

fuck

[[Maps_data]]

what IS IT

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Intro

[near imp]

aside from the config bits that dont do anything yet.
"Target": "Animals/BrownChicken.png",
"FromFile": "assets/Brown Chicken.png",
only the FromFile should have .png on it

[proven spindle]

[[Modding:Maps]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[torpid sparrow]

oh yeah

i forgor that

[proven spindle]

Oh whoops, that wasn't supposed to be a reply lol

[crisp jasper]

JFEHJEIUL I KNEW THAT I SWEAR

omg thats so stupid

[proven spindle]

Sorry Phoenix

[crisp jasper]

is okay lol I was facepalming at my dumbass

[near imp]

friend i spent 5 hours today just banging my head against the wall trying to get a custom path ingame so youre definitely not alone 😭

[proven spindle]

Anyway while I'm here does anyone know if modpages have word limits
Edit: in case anyone else is wondering similar, I have successfully pasted 10,132 words onto a modpage

[calm nebula]

Your users have concentration limits rbh

[proven spindle]

Chu inspired me to try doing a tutorial but those get pretty long lol

[gaunt heath]

Hi Pathos, I know it's been two years, but it appears that this didn't work.
While helping me troubleshoot footstep sounds still being thudStep despite my map being marked TreatAsOutdoors and my tiles being marked Grass, @lucid iron figured out that this dehardcoding didn't reach FarmerSprite.checkForFootstep.

[near imp]

if its in some small way a bonus i feel a little bit better just because i actually managed to help someone out a bit instead of just riding the struggle bus all around town (so thank you for that ❤️ )

[ornate drift]

do the modIDs for the house interior and exterior have to be different?

[torpid sparrow]

yes

its two different locations

[ornate drift]

wait what about the dependency

hows that gonna load

[torpid sparrow]

wdym?

you load two different locations

[ornate drift]

im using hxws tiles

[torpid sparrow]

wait

sorry

you load one location

exterior is a patch

i forgot

[ornate drift]

oh so same IDs

[torpid sparrow]

uhh

[crisp jasper]

it didnt work ;-;

[torpid sparrow]

i mean there's no id for the exterior

since you just patch it in

interior is a location

which you have to load and name

[ornate drift]

er

[fierce vault]

Ok, so if anyone is willng to help with loading my hat in, this is what I have { "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Hats", "Entries": { "{{ModId}}_JacksHat": { "Name": "{{ModId}}_JacksHat", "Displayname": "Jack's Hat", "Description": "It's old and worn", "show real hair": "false", "skip hairstyle offset": "", "sprite index": "20 80", "texture name": "{{ModId}}_JacksHat" } } },and I'm wondering what to actually put in here for the hat's texture to show up, because the crops example on the wiki doesn't look right, even when being modified to be used here. { "Action": "Load", "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}_JacksHat", "FromFile": "assets/JacksHat.png" },would the target be Hats instead of Mods? And have I done anything else wrong? (also not sure if I need a "skip hairstyle offset" for this hat too)

[torpid sparrow]

oh you mean load and edit

yes same name

[calm nebula]

C# properties don't have spaces is a first guess....

[near imp]

youre trying to put your own recolored version of the chickens in the game right, not to edit another mods textures after the fact?

[crisp jasper]

no, I’m recolouring another mod

[tranquil olive]

are you doing this with content patcher? if so, the hat code is a bit different versus shirts for the entries

[fierce vault]

Oh, yeah I am doing it with content patcher

[ornate drift]

now if i load that in
can i just debug warp to it?

[tranquil olive]

let me see if I can find the page

[torpid sparrow]

uhhh i think? ive never tried before

if u have an arrival tile then yeah

[tranquil olive]

this might help @fierce vault since it has a different layout (each hat is like one line)

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Hats

the way I forgot the link-

[ornate drift]

ah shit i forgot to set that up

[ornate drift]

do i add an entry after the load

[torpid sparrow]

for what

[ornate drift]

for the arrival tile

?

[fierce vault]

oh yeah, I've been checking that, but I'm not sure how to format it exactly

[torpid sparrow]

you put it there already

"DefaultArrivalTile"

[ornate drift]

thats for the

actually idk why i put that there

[near imp]

oh jeepers this is just like yesterday then. that makes things a bit more complicated. luckily i did write what Aba* said down (*very helpful and knowledgeable person)

[torpid sparrow]

well its ur default arrival tile xd

[ornate drift]

i was copying a patch to load my bakerys exterior

[torpid sparrow]

i imagine if u debug warp itll take u there

wherever that is on ur map

[crisp jasper]

yes, I’m in a server with Aba too !! I would ask them but their ass was up till 4am lmao

[tranquil olive]

this is something I have for my mines current project

"{{ModId}}_Hats_00": "{{ModId}}_Hats_00/{{i18n:BA_Hat_00_Desc}}/true/false//{{i18n:BA_Hat_00_Name}}/0/Mods\\{{ModId}}\\hats",

It's like the hat ID, then the description, then if there's an offset or not and so on

[near imp]

can i like DM you the whole notes and you see what you can make of it?

[ornate drift]

oh

[fierce vault]

Oh, that's how it's supposed to look?

[crisp jasper]

yes please!

[torpid sparrow]

uhhh hold on

[ornate drift]

ok so that didnt work

[torpid sparrow]

thinks

let me open my json

[fierce vault]

how does the mod know how to find the actual texture?

[near imp]

oke give me a min to find it (organised and professional here)

[tranquil olive]

mhm, and for the texture file path the two slashes \\ help so it counts the whole path as a value versus splitting it up

[ornate drift]

this is specific to the load command

i think

[torpid sparrow]

err it should be fine confused

did u load it again somewhere else

you have two loads targetting the same path

[ornate drift]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8b1eff92e01e47138f9e1aa8c022ddaf

check the patches

[torpid sparrow]

yeah u have two

[ornate drift]

oh?

uhhhh

[fierce vault]

Ok, thanks, Lunette! I don't think I really get it still, but I'll try formatting it like this and see what happens. 😅

[torpid sparrow]

you dont need to load ur exterior afaik

and yeah you cant load to the same name

[tranquil olive]

apologies if my explaining isn't the best 😅 testing helps though, and I hope your hat can show up okay

[ornate drift]

wait im supposed to put the maps in different folders

or

[fierce vault]

It's fine, explaining can be hard!

[torpid sparrow]

no you're loading TWO things to the same thing

which is {{ModId}}_SpeedyShop

also its {{ModId}} not {{ModID}}

[ornate drift]

oh wait that fucks it up?

[fierce vault]

I've sometimes taken forever trying to write an explaination for something that almost no one will hopefully mess up

[torpid sparrow]

not sure but the problem is ur loading two things to the same thing

ur interior and exterior have the same name

and you dont need to load your exterior at all

[ornate drift]

so i should use a diff mod id

[torpid sparrow]

you shouldnt be loading your exterior

[ornate drift]

oh

okay

[torpid sparrow]

but yes, in general, use different names if you're going to be loading two different things

[ornate drift]

so do i delete the load speedys map patch?

[torpid sparrow]

if thats the exterior yes

that doesnt actually do anything visual btw

just loading it doesnt make it visible on the map

you either have to also create a location, which you are doing with your interior, or patch the map into the Town

[ornate drift]

i seee

[void aspen]

Evening wem!!

[torpid sparrow]

hi!!

[ornate drift]

very helpful to know next time, many thanks!

[void aspen]

Have you seen my finished mod

[torpid sparrow]

no what is it?

school is kicking my ass

[ornate drift]

also doesnt help that i made my exterior name into Speedy while the interior is Manny

thats gonna be confusing af

[void aspen]

Oh 🥺

[torpid sparrow]

finals are coming up

[void aspen]

#making-mods-general message

[void aspen]

Went thru that multiple times too, good luck 🙏

[void aspen]

It got showcased yesterday too🩷

[torpid sparrow]

OH THE EMILY DREAM

YAY

[void aspen]

Yuss

[torpid sparrow]

so whimsy

[void aspen]

Planning to learn some more CP stuff to make some custom things to go along with it

[ornate drift]

oh

tilesheet climbing

[void aspen]

Maybe some dream ore you can mine

[hard fern]

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[void aspen]

Okay it's 3 am I gotta go sleep

Gl yall, byee

[torpid sparrow]

goodnight!

hope u explore a dreamscape

[void aspen]

Need some more inspiration yeah

[ornate drift]

oh the tilesheet climbing is gone all i did was change the modid

but uhhhhh

[torpid sparrow]

i have never seen that error before

[hard fern]

U know what this means...

Show Jason

[ornate drift]

whos jason

oh u mean json

[void aspen]

Content json

[torpid sparrow]

jason

[ornate drift]

bro 🥀

Jay Son

[hard fern]

Yes im sorry lol sometimes my phone connects it to jason

Corrects

[void aspen]

Had same issue yesterday

Jason sounds fun tho

[ornate drift]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/56560b0113464734bb6447f73371c9c7

there

wait i dont even have a i18n why do i have that patch

string 43

[hard fern]

[void aspen]

What's i18n I still wonder

[gaunt heath]

You're telling it to use a file that you seemingly haven't loaded "MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop"

[hard fern]

!i18n

[ocean sail]

Creating Translation Capability

So you'd like to stop writing all of \"your strings straight in your content.json?\" and/or you'd like the capability to see all of your strings across all of your .jsons?
Introducing i18n!

• How to make your mod compatible with other languages: stardewmodding.wiki.gg

• The file where you can put all of your strings is called default.json, and it sits in a folder at the same level of your assets, named "i18n".

• If you're converting from an older version of the game, there's a converter for ease-of-access.

Not to be confused with {{DynamicTokens}} since these require the specific {{i18n:<KEY>}} modifier

To use this command, type !i18n.

[onyx panther]

so I just came up with a cursed way to randomly change Abigail's hair colour after a random period of time using events and conversation topics and I hate what I've come up with but it would work while also meaning I can have other NPCs comment on her hair, so..... imma do it anyway lmao

[gaunt heath]

But I don't see you loading that tmx

[ornate drift]

which tmx?

the interior?

[gaunt heath]

{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop.tmx

See line 49

[ornate drift]

thats...the exterior though

[gaunt heath]

WIth MapPath, you're telling the game "look here for the map file to use", but you haven't put a map file there

[gaunt heath]

It's the only place I see you editing Data/Locations, so it's the only location that could be malformed and causing this error

[ornate drift]

weird
ill remove that patch

[gaunt heath]

If you're trying to create a location you need that. If that tmx file exists, you just need to load it like you've loaded everything else above.

[torpid sparrow]

speedy change that to mannyinterior

ur still referring to speedyshop

[ornate drift]

oh

[torpid sparrow]

oh wait

yeah

"MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_Manny_Interior"

instead of "MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop"

[gaunt heath]

      "LogName": "Load Manny's Bakery Interior Map",
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Maps/{{ModId}}_MannyInterior",
      "FromFile": "assets/Maps/Manny-Bakery-Interior.tmx"
    }```
Above you load the file to `Maps/{{ModId}}_MannyInterior`, but here:

{
  "LogName": "Add custom locations",
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/Locations",
  "Entries": {
    "{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop": {
      "DisplayName": "{{i18n: location.Speedy-Shop.name}}",
      "DefaultArrivalTile": {
        "X": 12,
        "Y": 28
      },
      "CreateOnLoad": {
        "MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop"
      }
    }
  }
},```

You tell it to use a different file, Maps/{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop

Also, I'd put all your loads at the top of the json file, before the lines where their assets are used. It's just good form.

[ornate drift]

you guys are really good at JSON coding

really appreciate the help

[torpid sparrow]

we've been doing it longer xd

[gaunt heath]

We've been doing it for years

[ornate drift]

its my first time

[torpid sparrow]

and we're both, canadian

thats important write that down

[gaunt heath]

My first time ended in tears, so you're doing well!

[hard fern]

Im not canadian

[gaunt heath]

Yes, you've got the canada help squad tonight 😌

[void aspen]

Oh so i18n just creates a dictionary for keys to grab strings with from a single file

[hard fern]

Im also not doing anything here XD

Just watching

[ornate drift]

do you guys like leaves

[void aspen]

And it works with localization too?

[ornate drift]

i like autumn

[gaunt heath]

Shoo, forsy! Shoo! I blow you away with a snow blower!

[torpid sparrow]

slow blower

[hard fern]

Slow blower...

[torpid sparrow]

i have a fast blower for u

[ornate drift]

blow slower

[fierce vault]

So, I think this is a partial success, because I hear the plop of the item in my inventory when I summon it, but it's still invisible, so idk what's wrong now 😅 { "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Hats", "Entries": { "{{ModID}}_JacksHat": "{{ModID}}_JacksHat/{{i18n:JacksHat_Desc}}/false/false/{{i18n:JacksHat_Name}}/0/Mods\\{{ModID}}\\hats", } },

[onyx panther]

I have a love-hate relationship with Jason

[ornate drift]

NOO I FUCKED UP THE JSON

hold on

[gaunt heath]

The humble json file subsists on a diet of stray commas and unpaired brackets

[onyx panther]

ooooo I love quote marks

[gaunt heath]

It has happened before and it will happen again! Don't worry about it too much!

[onyx panther]

jason be like {"":"","":[{"":""}]}

[ornate drift]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9935541cdbf045c38dcddec211444deb

i hate brackets sooooo much bro

[hard fern]

(it will happen again. This is a threat)

[gaunt heath]

You're just missing a }

[onyx panther]

I hate how notepad++ does not automatically insert closing brackets for me

like I'm gonna need them, just add them pls

[ornate drift]

at the end of the string?

[onyx panther]

maybe I'm stupid and there's an option to do that I should just turn on

[near imp]

wait stop the press are you the tilesheet-Kailey?

[hard fern]

The tilesheet kailey....

[gaunt heath]

yes

[hard fern]

You have a legacy

[near imp]

what can i say, i have a way with words

[barren tapir]

It's a lil guy!

[gaunt heath]

I am known for my tilesheets and my tendency to spam cat pictures. Such is the way of the worm.

[lucid iron]

and worms

[near imp]

i just wanted to say theyre great and i love the froggos shant disturb you any more

[ornate drift]

that didnt work

[onyx panther]

cat pics?

[fierce vault]

should've done that in brackets, and then left one out 😆

{it will happen again. This is a threat}}

[ornate drift]

this makes my blood boil

[hard fern]

The sneeb

[gaunt heath]

You accididentally moved "MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_Manny_Interior" into the default arrival tile brackets

It is not an arrival tile coordinate, it must be escorted out

[torpid sparrow]

alright back to nyapu portrait mines

also known as HELL

[ornate drift]

do i close off the arrival tile coords?

[gaunt heath]

Thank you, I appreciate it! I worked on the current version of the tilesheets on and off for about a year and a half when I had time (don't usually have that)

[onyx panther]

I am stupid

[ornate drift]

i still have to go through map data, events, festival placements, schedules....

[ornate drift]

well atleast the hard part is almost over

[ornate drift]

oh! okay

[hard fern]

SwaPom'

[gaunt heath]

I think you just need to swap the order of those two lines, but I haven't checked

[tranquil olive]

hm, with your sprite path (the part after the 0), based on your load action

        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}_JacksHat",
            "FromFile": "assets/JacksHat.png"
        },

I think you would need it to be Mods\\{{ModId}}\\JacksHat in the hats code

and the target for the load action would be 'Mods/{{ModId}}/JacksHat, and it may need this for the "FromFile
"FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png" so it can find the image?

Maybe the JacksHat.png is fine, but in case the name changes? Also making sure you have ModId instead of ModID may be helpful

[gaunt heath]

I'm glad you like my mousepad writing, forsy 😌

[hard fern]

I am a fan

[onyx panther]

ok this is dumb

[hard fern]

Thats a whole mouth

Month.

[gaunt heath]

HMmm no I screwed something up

[onyx panther]

but also, idk how to make it a normal distribution without just duplicating numbers

[gaunt heath]

    "LogName": "Add custom locations",
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/Locations",
    "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop": {
        "DisplayName": "{{i18n: location.Speedy-Shop.name}}",
            "DefaultArrivalTile": {
                "X": 12,
                "Y": 28
                },
            "MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_Manny_Interior",            
        }
    }
},```
there, unscrunkled

[ornate drift]

inch-resting

[gaunt heath]

Note a) the comma after defaultarrivaltile's closing bracket, and b) the fact that defaultarrivaltile's brackets only surround the X and Y coordinates

[ornate drift]

hooray! it fixed

[ornate drift]

im supposed to add width and height?

[gaunt heath]

To the arrival tile? Not as far as I know, it's a single tile

        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Locations",
            "Entries": {
                "KaileyStardew.FootStep_Test": {
                    "DisplayName": "FootStep_Test",
                    "DefaultArrivalTile": {
                        "X": 5,
                        "Y": 5
                    },
                    "CreateOnLoad": {
                        "AlwaysActive": false,
                        "MapPath": "Maps\\KaileyStardew.FootStep_Test"
                    },
                },
            }
        }```
Here's the same process in a tiny mod I just made to reproduce a bug I reported to pathos earlier. Your arrival tile is just a single tile, no need to specify width or height.

[ornate drift]

i see

thanks! i really appreciate it

[gaunt heath]

No problem!

[ornate drift]

now to warp there

er

[hard fern]

Did you load your interior map

[ornate drift]

yeah?

[gaunt heath]

debug warp {{ModId}}_SpeedyShop, replace {{ModId}} with whatever yours actually is in the manifest

[ornate drift]

speedyshop is the exterior

[gaunt heath]

You're using the location name, not file name, to warp

Ah right I pulled that off your unfixed json

[ornate drift]

right, sorry about that!

[gaunt heath]

Same principal, use the lcoation name and not .tmx file name

[gaunt heath]

Eg debug warp KaileyStardew.FootStep_Test

...this is a bad example because I made the map and file name the same lol

[ornate drift]

speedy.mannynpc

that one?

[gaunt heath]

Whatever you have as your id in your manifest.json will always replace {{ModId}}

[dire kestrel]

would anyone know off the top of their head where i can find the bushy tree asset you can see on maps like secret woods?

[gaunt heath]

      "LogName": "Add custom locations",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/Locations",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_SpeedyShop": {
          "DisplayName": "{{i18n: location.Speedy-Shop.name}}",
          "DefaultArrivalTile": {
            "X": 12,
            "Y": 28
          },
          "MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_Manny_Interior"
        }
      }```
Based on this, your location name is `speedy.mannynpc_SpeedyShop`

[ornate drift]

that....doesnt work either

weird

[lucid iron]

can you do patch summary and send a log

[lucid iron]

also are u patch reloading and stuff when u change

[onyx panther]

I just wrote out a normal distribution for a random number in a dynamic token, there has to be a better way to do this aaaaaaa

[near imp]

do you mean the leafy stuff thats around the edges? its just outdoorstilesheet afaik

[finite sequoia]

Thank you! I haven't gotten to playing her yet but she looks incredible, I'm really happy you're okay with her in the vent 😸

[gaunt heath]

...content patcher has built in randomisation though

[lucid iron]

i assume they wanted the bell curve

[ornate drift]

that sent a bunch of stuff in the logs but the last was this

[finite sequoia]

(And also thank you again for your help with using spacecore to create ore nodes, I just pushed the update to Coal Point with that in and you saved me in regards to adding them!)

[lucid iron]

cus cp rand is linear

[onyx panther]

I do

[lucid iron]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[dire kestrel]

thank you kattia!

[gaunt heath]

Fair enough lol

[lucid iron]

send the whole thing via log parser

[onyx panther]

uniform, but yes

[gaunt heath]

Yeah we need your full parsed log every time

Ok, I'm off for dinner for now!

[onyx panther]

it's a range from 7 to 28 days, normal distribution

[lucid iron]

there isnt a better way to do this afaik

it is pretty niche

[near imp]

(just to be clear spring_outdoorsTileSheet in Maps, and etc for the other seasons)

[onyx panther]

could make a hyperpecific NormalRange token that generates this

[ornate drift]

thanks for the help! really appreciate it

[onyx panther]

like with c#

[lucid iron]

yea sure, it wouldn't that much C#

altho it's gonna end up being {{gayannabeth.TokenMod/NormalRange: <args> }}

[ornate drift]

https://smapi.io/log/18f30865c0e049ac937c1eaec026a47a

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 22 C# mods and 24 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[lucid iron]

and require usage of the advanced mod registered token

[onyx panther]

yeah lol

[uncut viper]

also you'd need to parse the args yourself

you don't get to use the |arg=whatever syntax unless you recreate it from scratch

[dire kestrel]

yep, got it! just need the one batch for a thumbnail i'm making haha

[lucid iron]

so this bit says yes your location edit applied
[X] | [X] | [X] | Default | Add custom locations (EditData Data/Locations)

[ornate drift]

howd you find it that quick damn

[lucid iron]

going by this image, the location name should be speedy.mannynpc_SpeedyShop, but yea i do see that debug warp speedy.mannynpc_SpeedyShop did not work

the next thing u should do is patch export Data/Locations and look for speedy.mannynpc_SpeedyShop entry

[gaunt heath]

Experience and the power of CRTL F lol

[lucid iron]

yea thats y we need the log parser cant ctrl f a image

[gaunt heath]

Content patcher has a lot going on, but you get an instinct for what you need to troubleshoot pretty fast

[ornate drift]

its there

[lucid iron]

ur create on load is fuggd

[tiny zealot]

CreateOnLoad: null is likely the problem

[gaunt heath]

It doesn't exist until you warp there from another map, and right now you can't warp there from another map.

[lucid iron]

u know how u wrote

"MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_Manny_Interior",

it should be

"CreateOnLoad": {
  "MapPath": "Maps/{{ModId}}_Manny_Interior"
},

[lucid iron]

(kailey did do it wrong back here so understandable)

[gaunt heath]

I was just fixing the brackets, I wasn't checking the content lol

Blinders on fighting the curly bracket swarm

[ornate drift]

hopefully this works

[gaunt heath]

Here's a template with it set up properly

[ornate drift]

aw the json fucked itself

hold on

[lucid iron]

i really recommend using a better text editor

something with json support like vsc sublime and such

[ornate drift]

i have notepad++

its just that i forget to use it

[lucid iron]

u need to turn on the json plugin for npp

[gaunt heath]

Notepad++ should be able to highlight bracket pairs for you if you do that

It's way easier

[ornate drift]

like i wish microsoft would make it so i load notepad++ everytime instead of having to right click

[lucid iron]

u can do that im pretty sure

[gaunt heath]

You can set it to the default program for .JSON files

[ornate drift]

oh?

[near imp]

yeah you can

[gaunt heath]

I have that set up no problem, but hell if I remember how

[near imp]

try right click, "open with", "choose another app", then select notepad++ but also the checkbox that says "Always use this app to open json files"

my OS is not exactly up to date cough but its late-ish windoze so should be something similar

[gaunt heath]

Notepad++ can run on 1/3 of a ham sandwich unchanged

[ornate drift]

managed to fix it by adding an extra bracket

please let me warp now

[gaunt heath]

My current json is nearly 3000 lines long and none of you can stop me

[ornate drift]

[hard fern]

wow tilesheet climbing again

[ornate locust]

...I mean, you could always organize it with multiple JSONs :V

[hard fern]

maybe this is a good time to bring up the tilesheetinator

[ornate drift]

i have tilesheetinator

[hard fern]

oh

um..

[ornate drift]

i manage most tilesheets with that

[gaunt heath]

No 😌

[hard fern]

i wonder if i'd scare someone with how many jsons i have

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #7718 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1483627528408141866)

[near imp]

atra the quote sniper

[gaunt heath]

I'm like half the quotes in the smaller server I hide in

Many of which were sniped by atra

[ornate drift]

something about null again as well

[gaunt heath]

Let's see the parsed json again

[ornate drift]

im never gonna be able to sell my donuts

sure

[ornate drift]

https://smapi.io/log/9fa6cc4fbe2641efb49623cc8882a55b

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 22 C# mods and 24 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[gaunt heath]

Have you encountered and fixed tilesheet climbing before? I'd fix that first, one thing at a time

Plus, errors tend to cause other errors

[uncut viper]

if there is tilesheet climbing, then the map is invalid, which will make it fail to load the location

[ornate drift]

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[ornate drift]

give me a minute

[uncut viper]

so you do need to fix that first

[gaunt heath]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#.22Directory_climbing_.28...2F.29_is_only_permitted_once_at_the_start_of_the_path.22
This has a more visual guide as well

[uncut viper]

!mapfixer this as well

[ocean sail]

Stardew Valley Map Fixer

There is a map fixer tool by Spiderbuttons that can fix common map errors such as tilesheet climbing.

Upload your map file(s) as .tmx and click FIX to run. Your fixed maps will be downloaded as a .zip file and will need to be extracted in order to replace your old versions.

Feel free to let Spiderbuttons know if you run into an issue it can't fix.

To use this command, type !mapfixer.

[uncut viper]

(don't rely on the map fixer if you also use .tsx files though)

[gaunt heath]

Do you mean tbin? Tsx is the map itself

Oh I can't read

[uncut viper]

no, I mean .tsx

though it wont read a tbin either

[gaunt heath]

I fully parsed that as tmx, I think that's enough for tonight lmao

I've been staring down my own maps for hours

[ivory plume]

Hi! I can take a look for SDV 1.6.16 in a bit when I finish mod stuff; can you post a summary of the issue (and the link to that previous discussion) in #1387907186713301072?

[ornate drift]

that was fast

[gaunt heath]

Will do, I also made a minimal repro pack. I was moving onto the alpha when I got distracted by chat

[ornate drift]

NO ERRORS FINALLY

the tilesheet climbing seemed to be the main issue

oh my god FINALLY

oh i can walk through this wall

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #7719 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1483629705344323745)

[ornate drift]

okay yeah none of the outer walls work LMAO

[ornate locust]

you want them on the building layer

[ornate drift]

i remember seeing Haleys house using the front layer for the walls

for some reason

[ornate locust]

It may use both

[ornate drift]

...oh

[ornate locust]

Or it may have something else as the building layer in places and that goes over it as the front

Building layer = you can't walk through it

Front layer = it goes over everything else

[hard fern]

it has the wall on front but the black void on buildings under it

[ornate locust]

Yeah the front walls use "front" because the blackness behind them uses buildings

[hard fern]

really though any tile on buildings will prevent wall walking

[ornate drift]

oh i thought they were back

[hard fern]

so you can just move the walls to buildings

there are black voids on back too.

[ornate locust]

Yeah you baiscally just need to surround your room with SOMETHING on building layers

[ornate drift]

🥀

[ornate locust]

Sometimes it's black ,sometimes it's a wall tile, sometimes it's half an interior wall like this bit here

just something to prevent people voidwalking

[ornate drift]

oh yeah also how do i make this door act like....well, a door?

[ornate locust]

It used to be locked to a certain number of layers, so stuff was placed VERY carefully and specifically, but now we're free of that

Interior door?

[ornate drift]

yeah

to another room

[ornate locust]

You need tiledata on the square that is the bottom of the door

on the Buildings data layer

and the property is Action, the text is Door

Here's Haley's. Hers has her name because you can only open it if you're friends with her enough

[ivory plume]

Two quick news updates for C# mod authors.

Mod build workflow 1.0.0

The (C#) mod build workflow 1.0.0 is now released!

This runs automatic actions on GitHub when you push code, just by adding a little YAML file. That can do things like...

• check that the code is valid;
• create release zips and build attestations;
• run unit tests (if any);
• upload prerelease downloads (if desired);
• upload releases to GitHub and Nexus Mods;
• and much more.

The 1.0.0 release means the API is now stable and safe to use in your mods. All the mod updates I posted over the weekend were created using the workflow.

See also:

• README for how to use it.
• Announcement post for background info.
• An example mod build.

Nexus mod upload API

The Nexus Mods upload API is now available!

This lets you upload mod updates to Nexus automatically. You can combine that with the mod build workflow (e.g. auto-deploy an update to Nexus when you push a version tag to your GitHub repo).

[ornate drift]

goatoschild

[ornate drift]

ooooh, interesting, does putting any name after Door tell the game that you need atleast 2 hearts to open a door?

[hard fern]

you specify the heart level

[ornate locust]

I think it defaults 2 doesn't it

because Haley's is just "Door Haley"

[hard fern]

oh wait i was thinking about exterior doors lol

[gaunt heath]

Oh god speedy are you fighting door

[ornate locust]

Yeah, put the name there, it looks for 2+ hearts with them

[gaunt heath]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide
Here

[hard fern]

very amusing

[ornate locust]

Oh that one has custom interior doors too

[hard fern]

snake

[ornate locust]

nice

[gaunt heath]

I wrote it after defeating the concept of doors in hand to hand combat

[ornate locust]

sometimes it do be like that

[gaunt heath]

It has agonising amounts of detail 😌

[ornate drift]

you have your own GUIDES????????

[gaunt heath]

I am god's most autistic soldier

[patent lance]

New quote added by forsythia as #7720 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1483636703007735808)

[gaunt heath]

I write lab documentation and stuff for a living lol. The doors one is my most elaborate one

[hard fern]

(it was quote worthy)

[gaunt heath]

Have you seen this server, we're a veritable army lmao

[hard fern]

i have seen at least 5 in this server

(conservative estimate)

[gaunt heath]

Lowballing that, I count for at least 3

[hard fern]

three nutellas in a trenchcoat

[ornate drift]

er

how do i add the data itself

i have the door itsel and im on the object layer

what button do i press on Tiled

[gaunt heath]

I am going to be completely honest

I always just copy an existing one from another map

I have no clue how to add a brand new one

[vernal crest]

The blue rectangle button

[slow basin]

Do companion rings needs C#?

[vernal crest]

Draw from corner to corner of desired tile. Name TileData. Simples!

[ornate locust]

make sure Snap To Grid is on

[gaunt heath]

I've been copying them for six years now, and I strongly suspect that habit comes from my first ever map not having Snap To Grid toggled properly

[ornate drift]

oh not having snap to grid on sucks

wheres that

found it nvm

[slow basin]

or wait do you just need custom companions for it

[gaunt heath]

https://github.com/Floogen/CustomCompanions/wiki/Spawning-a-Companion-via-Content-Patcher-Rings

[ornate drift]

how'd you make the guide for it though

[gaunt heath]

It's really not a big deal to make new objects by copying and editing existing ones, it takes the exact same amount of time and I no longer think about it when I do

[lucid iron]

Companion rings is specifically a custom companion feature so yes. Besides that you can also make trinkets with trinket tinker

Mostly depends on whether you want the companions to do stuff

[slow basin]

oh cool!

[gaunt heath]

(You can edit an object to be any other object with two clicks, you don't need to grab a door object to make another door or anything)

[ornate drift]

yoink

that should work

[hard fern]

what is the internal name of your npc

[eager tree]

can "LocationContext" be used to only edit a tilesheet when the player is in one location?

as in
{ "Action": "EditImage", "Target": "Maps/summer_outdoorsTileSheet", "When": { "LocationContext": "Island" }, "FromFile": "assets/Maps/summer_outdoorsTileSheet.png" },

[ornate drift]

uhhh didnt work

[gaunt heath]

Ghost doors

[ornate drift]

isnt it just _Manny?

[ornate locust]

Is your NPC's internal name just Manny?

Ideally you do YourModID_Manny

[calm nebula]

Kailey, those look like double doors

[ornate locust]

Which is fine as {{ModID}}_Manny in code but you have to type it out in Tiled

[hard fern]

(also you added the Door property to the map right?)

[calm nebula]

Do you want to talk about double doors

[gaunt heath]

Oh god you're right, double doors are a whole thing

[ornate locust]

also those do look like double doors which makes me think maybe Kailey has some things to say

[ornate drift]

yeah action door

[gaunt heath]

You can't mirror the default door like that

[ornate drift]

aw...

damnit

[hard fern]

not on the tile but on the map itself

a map property

[gaunt heath]

See the saloon doors section of the tutorial

If you absolutely must have double doors

[ornate drift]

double doors are way cooler

[gaunt heath]

The Cursors animation of the Saloon Door (Right) is hardcoded to always be a mirrored version of Saloon Door (Left). This can be used to your advantage to make double doors without needing a second mirrored asset, but limits any other use.
And if you don't want them to look like saloon doors, you're gonna have to do the second half of the tutorial

[ornate locust]

If your NPC is just named Manny then another mod may add another Manny and if you both just use the internal name "Manny" then they will conflict. Thus the modID thing

[hard fern]

kailey you are doors to me now

doors and sneeb

[gaunt heath]

Now I gotta explain what the hell a sneeb is now

[ornate locust]

https://i.discogs.com/c9YCHxzn6QmqtxUjf0LTeunukGhhwEgYG1RZgynKMx0/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:349/w:409/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTEyNTQ5/MjAtMTIwNDEwMTg5/MC5qcGVn.jpeg

Kailey

[hard fern]

wow

old

(not you)

[calm nebula]

Plz explain sneeb

With pictures

[gaunt heath]

Behold: a sneeb

[hard fern]

a visual sneeb diagram..

[ornate locust]

that's a good void

[gaunt heath]

We call her the sneeb, she is beloved by all

[hard fern]

it's great that there are so many cats who are stardew modders

[gaunt heath]

She is 50% of the content of the group chat by volume, minimum

[ornate drift]

oh shit

then uhhhhh

[gaunt heath]

Anyway double doors are evil and if your doors are transparent something went wrong with your setup

[ornate locust]

Yeah most people do {{ModId}}_Manny like that

[gaunt heath]

And yes, you need a unique internal id for your NPC. One time SVE didn't do that and caused the Hankpocalypse.

[ornate locust]

But if you use it in a Tiled map, you have to type out your mod ID instead of the token.

[ornate drift]

how about {{ModId}}_SpeedyManny

[hard fern]

hankpocalypse.....

[gaunt heath]

As long as it's unique it works

I think the SVE npc was hank, I don't remember

[ornate locust]

as an example, there are now two Zaynes. One is from a Love and Deepspace related mod and the other is Ridgeside

[hard fern]

i dont recall any hank

there is an old guy named andy though

[ornate locust]

so there's a double Zayne out there

[hard fern]

i can make it triple

[proven spindle]

Hey all just to check, 'IsRecipe' (boolean) is used to sell a recipe in a shop now right? It's not on the shops or recipe wiki pages but I saw it in a couple posts while searching

[ornate drift]

i got reminded of Ninjago

[hard fern]

i believe so yeah

[proven spindle]

Thanks! I'll add it to the shops modding wiki then

[brittle pasture]

it's documented here: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries#Item_spawn_fields

[proven spindle]

Ah, that would be why

[brittle pasture]

anything that says "common fields" (like on the Shops page) links to this page

[ornate drift]

custom interior doors....?

[ornate locust]

Yeah you can't just flip a door, it won't flip the animation. The same thing lead me to doing my tilesheet mod with the flipped couches so people can sit facing other directions

[gaunt heath]

The custom door process + saloon doors is your best bet for a double door without adding a whole other framework if you absolutely must have them

[ornate drift]

i think a saloon door looks better for a bakery anyway

what about the 2 heart requirement though?

[gaunt heath]

I haven't tested, but if you set up both with the NPC name like any other door it should still work

The saloon door animation mirroring is purely visual if I'm remembering the hardcoding correctly

[ornate drift]

fuck it ill just make it 1 door

[gaunt heath]

As you can see, the saloon door is still two doors so you could just set them both to have the heart requirement

[ornate drift]

isnt it add property > string > action door {{ModId}}_SpeedyManny?

[calm nebula]

You need both

The map property and the tile property

[ornate drift]

well i put the tile property, but how do i put the map?

[gaunt heath]

The map property?

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide#Map_Property:_Door this?

Click here

And then here

Sorry, this tutorial wasn't written with someone still learning Tiled in mind so it there are a couple moments like that

[ornate drift]

i get it lol, tiled can be a nightmare

[gaunt heath]

Once you add your door map property (the one that's a bunch of numbers), it'll appear in the bottom left where that red arrow is overlapping in the screenshot above

All four parts of the door at the start of the tutorial need to be done, or the whole thing won't work

[ornate drift]

like that?

[ornate locust]

maybe I could add vanilla double doors to the ol tilesheet mod...

I only knew about the Couch Issue

[torpid sparrow]

Love ur couch I sit on couch

[hard fern]

😔 couch

[ornate locust]

(I say this before looking at the Kailey custom door zone, do not hold me to this)

[gaunt heath]

You only need one Doors entry, if you have mutliple it will break. To have multiple doors on the same map, you just add the data in sequence (see figure 6 in the tutorial for an example)

[tiny zealot]

which couch issue? i can think of a few weird ones offhand

[ornate locust]

if you flip a couch, it sits wrong

[ornate drift]

ohhhh wait

[ornate locust]

thus why I made "same couch as vanilla but facing Other Way"

[ornate drift]

i used haleys room as a base when i first made this...

thats a leftover!!

[gaunt heath]

Lol that'll happen, you can just reuse that

[ornate drift]

or delete it :p

[gaunt heath]

And it has to be Doors, not Door

Even if you only have one

[tiny zealot]

my favorite is "if a couch is occupied in the real location, you will not be allowed to sit on it during an event"

[ornate locust]

oh no

[ornate drift]

noted

[tiny zealot]

good news: there's no way to encounter this bug with vanilla event commands

[gaunt heath]

Sitting code my beloathed

[hard fern]

what the...

[ornate locust]

SITTING SHAKES FIST

[hard fern]

i had enough fun with couches when i accidentally made onde

[gaunt heath]

-# furniture rotations

👻

[calm nebula]

Smh

[hard fern]

ok actually furniture rotations arent that scary

[calm nebula]

I never rotate mg furniture irl

[hard fern]

<- has rotated a furniture before

[gaunt heath]

Yeah but they are evil

[hard fern]

oh right i need to make furniture

ugh but i cant just do 20 things at once

[gaunt heath]

There are hardcoded exeptions in the code for rotations that just look for a string in the larger item name. There are no guardrails.

[ornate locust]

No see rotating furniture on a map is fine

Rotating furniture that you can sit on does not rotate the sitting and that's the problem

[gaunt heath]

No, I mean the code for rotating furniture in-game under the hood

[ornate locust]

oh like House Furniture?

[gaunt heath]

Yeah

[ornate locust]

I never touched that, is it scary

My furniture's all tilesheet furniture

[gaunt heath]

Furniture.cs contains manmade horrors fully within my comprehension

[ornate locust]

Kailey is a cenobite but for doors and furniture

[ornate drift]

i cant leave get me outta here

oh yeah when i gave manny the new ID it gave a few erroes

errors

[gaunt heath]

I don't play the game anymore, I just accumulate esoteric psychic damage

[ornate locust]

You need to change all the places that look for just "manny" to the new ID

[ornate drift]

i did

[ornate locust]

And is your wall where you leave on the top layer so you can walk through it and actually exit?

[ornate drift]

nyope i put it on buildings
ill fix that

[vernal crest]

I have a list of the hardcoded behaviours in furniture to add to the wiki but I haven't actually make it to the adding part yet

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #7722 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1483651735934206114)

[gaunt heath]

If you changed the NPC ID on the fly in an existing save, your game is going to complain a bit

[ornate locust]

Yeah as long as you changed all the places that use it, the complaining should be harmless

[gaunt heath]

Also you need to set up warps on your map to leave lol

[torpid sparrow]

The map knows where I want to go

[ornate locust]

you do need warps.

[torpid sparrow]

It’s connected to my brain

[gaunt heath]

wem is just built different

[torpid sparrow]

I’m puter

[slow basin]

im tryin gto make a test companion but they arent showing up dang 😔

[ornate drift]

"waaaaaaaa cry about it waaaaaaa"

[slow basin]

maybe i messed up the tilesheet

[gaunt heath]

You're gonna have to get very cool with your game screaming and flailing if you're gonna write mods

My record for crashing the game is like 20 times in one minute

[torpid sparrow]

How

What happened

[gaunt heath]

I am very talented

[torpid sparrow]

Ugh icon

[ornate drift]

oh also the new ID completely reset Mannys progress

[calm nebula]

At least you didnt use __instance on a static method lol

[gaunt heath]

It was during the alpha. Early during the alpha. I was being very mean to it.

[gaunt heath]

That's because the old manny doesn't exist anymore. As far as the game is concerned, this is a totally new guy.