making-mods-general

[torpid sparrow]

thats what i mean

[vernal crest]

I recommend not doing any more pixel art in a program that doesn't have grids

[torpid sparrow]

what wrong with that

its not like the door swings open

and would be cut off

[ornate drift]

do i move the door down

[uncut viper]

The thing that'd be more of an issue is that the door is like, indented into the overall footprint

Since it's bigger than 16px that 1% that isn't fine would probably be some inconvenient collission issues, so probably more like 5% not fine or more depending on your tolerance for that

[gaunt orbit]

Ackchually
monogame doesn't have built-in tilemap support- tbin is xTile's only supported map format, which is a separate library that stardew uses for maps.

[hard fern]

🤔 what was the mod that let you make furniture easily called again?

[ornate drift]

collision issues would be annoying af

I'm gonna have to make it align

[dire kestrel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/41037

[hard fern]

🫡 thx mia

[lucid mulch]

ackchually tide is the native format (which is what is actually used by stardew) tbin is just the binary version of it that gets compiled during the monogame content pipeline phase and what gets stored in the xnb files

[void aspen]

I could try and align it for you if you want while keeping the initial style, you will be able to polish it afterwards

Both the door and 16px grid

[finite sequoia]

Quick question: Was there a way to force a map edit during an event?

[ornate drift]

that would be much appreciated! you obviously don't have to if you don't want to though

[gaunt orbit]

huh, I didn't know that tide supported multiple formats. Though I know you can save as tbin diectly from tIDE bc that was all I ever used in the xnb days

[finite sequoia]

I'd like to add a map patch that removes a bush mid-event

But the only way I can think is using removeTile

[void aspen]

Making a very long animation in tiled that goes to invisible tiles after some seconds

[void aspen]

May take me an hour or so to hop on pc tho

[vernal crest]

What is the issue with removeTile?

[ornate drift]

that's ok, I'll work on my items 'e

:3

[finite sequoia]

Just mildly inconveniencing haha, nothing huge!

Plus it's a map patch that already exists, it's just flagged for after the event is seen, but that wouldn't update until the day after

[lucid mulch]

SMAPI itself doesn't support .tide being used directly by mods, but its what the stardew devs work with (and why for totally unrelated reasons the copyright of the tbin plugin for tiled changed a few weeks ago to be Copyright 2026, ConcernedApe LLC <[e-mail]> when the plugin was updated to also support making .tide files)

[gaunt orbit]

hmmmm for some reason my dialogue callback doesn't seem to be called and I'm not sure why

I'm using it elsewhere without problems, but this spot seems to just.. not get called

... maybe because it's inside another answer behavior? but I don't see why that'd be an issue

[lucid mulch]

the game only tracks one afterQuestion callback as its just a field on gameLocation afterQuestion so the most recent one would win

[gaunt orbit]

I think I know what's happening

so what I'm doing is something like
onanswer {
createquestion(...)
}
and I think when it finishes executing the outer answer handler, it clears the handler field, which has been set to the inner handler at that point, meaning it's unset when the second question is answered

... which incidentally explains why all of the vanilla stuff is handled in a giant switch block

if I put it in a delayedAction it should work

[lucid mulch]

    if (afterQuestion != null)
    {
        afterQuestion(Game1.player, answer.responseKey);
        afterQuestion = null;
        Game1.objectDialoguePortraitPerson = null;
        return true;
    }
``` ah yeah

[gaunt orbit]

yep, that fixed it

8 layers deep!

[lucid mulch]

directly assigning afterQuestion after creating the dialogue would presumably also work

actually no, still inside the callback function nevermind

[void aspen]

Thoughts?

[ornate drift]

oooo yeah that looks perfect!!! i love it

though now the sign says betr lol

but its alright, i can change it later

thank you soooo much

[void aspen]

yeah that's some scaling stuff

i can align outer walls too if you want

[gaunt orbit]

okay new issue: changing the map path on location data does NOT propogate to already-loaded locations

I suppose I could just edit the mapPath field directly

[ornate drift]

does it affect the collision?

[void aspen]

visuals itself don't affect collisions at all

this should be better overall

[ornate drift]

awesome, tysm!!

[half tangle]

Anyone know if there's a reason I should not do nested DelayedActions?

[void aspen]

walls are aligned too now, so there won't be any weird visual interactions

[uncut viper]

Sanity.

Otherwise, go for it.

[lucid iron]

I don't think it is possible to get a infinite loop if u keep queuing 0 delay actions so u r ok probably

[half tangle]

at least I'm not trying to put them into a recursive method or something

[lucid iron]

But i dunno are u sure u want this instead of just actual update + timer

[half tangle]

I considered that but that felt like more to keep track of - i.e. bouncing around among methods rather than just put it all in the current code block

[uncut viper]

DelayedActions are also already set up to account for the game being paused and such

[olive lotus]

Is there a query state or a CP "When" condition that can be used to check if the player is married without needing to specify a particular spouse?

[uncut viper]

HasValue:{{Spouse}}

[olive lotus]

That simple? I swear I looked through the documentation for both an couldn't find it! THANK YOU!

[half tangle]

yeah, I learned about the pause effect when I was confused why my console commands a few weeks ago weren't working (since I don't let the game run in the background right now)

[uncut viper]

Well that might be more bc of the way SMAPI does console commands

[half tangle]

a few weeks ago a week ago... this mod has such a hold on me

ah, fair, yeah, could be

[uncut viper]

Wheres DelayedAction I thought (I could very well be misremembering) that they'd even wait until the player was free i.e. not in a menu? It's been a while since I looked at them

(or more accurately I thought it waited until the world was not paused. so menus in multiplayer are not that)

[half tangle]

Looks like DelayedAction does not wait even in single player - or at least the timer it uses passes because I just tried opening the game menu while a delayed action was counting down and it still triggered while I was in the menu

so your point about how SMAPI handles console commands is probably more relevant in that case, i.e. when the game is paused rather than just when the player is in a menu

[uncut viper]

They're checked via Game1.UpdateOther() and as far as I can tell all instances of DelayedAction.update() inside there is gated by a !Game1.HostPaused, whatever causes that

[half tangle]

yeah, makes sense

[uncut viper]

(SMAPI I just recall puts commands in a queue rather than running them immediately upon receiving them)

Either way I think DelayedAction is fine n good to use

[jaunty shuttle]

Whoaaa

[lucid iron]

Ah i gotta add compat

[half tangle]

that's awesome

[lucid iron]

Hmm what if professor snail sells u ostrich

Instead of island trader

[gaunt orbit]

what kind of compat?

[uncut viper]

Did one of those parrots take a bite of my island house while they were upgrading it

[gaunt orbit]

it's a side effect of hijacking the upgrade perches to do the bird effects. I could probably harmony patch it out but I didn't think it would be worth it

[lucid iron]

I also replaced the island trader's action for the buy vanilla animals mod https://github.com/Mushymato/LivestockBazaar/blob/main/[CP] Buy All Vanilla Animals/data/bazaar.json#L52

But it's not that important I'll just move it

[uncut viper]

I think the monch sound effect is funny so I think it's fine to keep it

[lucid iron]

I did some terrible thing to those 5 tiles in order to make them not do vanilla action and in retrospect this is very silly

[gaunt orbit]

oh okay! it should be simply enough to add. I have a separate method to get the list of options and handle responses, so you could always postfix those, or if there's an animal merchant API I can just add it myself

[lucid iron]

Well i think the problem is more how I'm patching it

[gaunt orbit]

I'm using a skipping prefix because I didn't want to write a transpiler

[vernal crest]

Eating the pests out of the thatch is a service the parrots provide

[lucid iron]

I may have added a second copy of island_tilesheet_1

To bypass the vanilla tile id based thing

[gaunt orbit]

[lucid iron]

But dw about me I'll just move it and not do this nonsense lol

Oh no I'm being judged for lack of grass again

[buoyant moon]

I'm trying to make an event where the middle section of it changes based on Leah's 2 heart event where a flag is set depending on your choice. Rather than having three separate events with different preconditions based on the mail flag with most of the event string being copied between each, I currently have the base event string with a placeholder value that gets patched based on the flag, e.g. https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c652faf64e5841509c0e9a4c12295e75

The one issue I've found with this is if I see Leah's 2 heart event just before this new event on the same day, it has the default behavior as if I haven't seen her event to pick an option (the first replacement). It has the right changes if I sleep after her event and then trigger the new one the next day.

I think this is because of the update being the unspecified default (OnDayStart), so the patch isn't checked and updated until the start of the next day. It looks like I could use "Update": "OnLocationChange" as part of the When condition on the bottom two and it'll work that way, but I wanted to check to see if there's any better alternative or best practice for this kind of thing (since I imagine that's a performance hit compared to the once daily update).

[buoyant moon]

(that said I'm also headed to bed shortly so won't be able to respond for a while if there are any followup questions 💤 )

[gaunt orbit]

I have been considering scope-creeping myself by adding an animal shop to the island bird, but if I did that, I'd want to add an empty bazaar entry and then hide the option if no animals are registered for that shop. Is there a good way to do that?
or should I just keep it as a "maybe todo later" item?

[lucid iron]

ah u want a way to check if the bazaar shop has animals?

i never added this bc it just opens up to empty shop atm (which still has use for the animal management menu access)

[lucid iron]

i have some other bugs to fix this week, and when i do that i will add gsq for this

    /// <summary>Check if there's any livestock shop</summary>
    /// <param name="shopName"></param>
    /// <returns></returns>
    public static bool HasAnyLivestockDataForShop(string shopName) =>
        LsData.Values.Any((ls) => ls.CanBuyFrom(shopName));

[stark ocean]

hey y'all just wondering if there is any way to add two new npcs plus the wizard to attend the wedding ceremony to the player, specifically when it is my custom npc getting married? i took a peek at the custom wedding wiki but as per ush i do not quite comprehend what i'm reading

[gaunt orbit]

I'm fairly certain you can just edit the wedding event script

some things are hardcoded but I don't think the npcs are

[ornate locust]

If you want, I add a NPC to weddings in my mod Pelican Town Municipal

and you can look at what I do there, lemme crack it open

neck deep in testing a VPR ESR update here, just a sec...

[stark ocean]

makes sense! looking at the unpacked weddings file rn and just wondering how i would go about tweaking it. it's looking quite different from the regular eventing format and i am Slow in the head

[stark ocean]

examples are always welcome!! i love a good visual

[ornate locust]

            "LogName": "Vanilla Wedding Position",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Weddings",
            "TargetField": [
                "Attendees"
            ],
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModID}}_SheriffBill": {
                    "ID": "{{ModID}}_SheriffBill",
                    "Setup": "{{ModID}}_SheriffBill 33 68 0"
                }
            }
        },```

So this with a When condition should do what you want. You edit it like a festival basically

            "When": {
                "Relationship:MadDog.HashtagBearFam.Sigurd": "Engaged"
            }```
this is from placement for a custom wedding with Sig, just change it to your NPC

or whichever NPC you want

[stark ocean]

that is amazing thank you will be working on that tonight for sure

is there a wedding map file or is it just the regular ole town map?

[ornate locust]

It's just the town map. If you look in Data/Weddings, you can see people's positions in weddings

[stark ocean]

that's what i figured. it would be so nice to have a visual map with positions like that one google sheet with all the events and whatnot </3

[stark ocean]

also will it only work if the mod id is fully typed out like this or could i still use the {{ModID}} token?

[ornate locust]

it should work with the token, that example is just using Sig, who is from a different mod, so I typed out the modID

but for a NPC from your mod, the token is fine

[stark ocean]

swagggg

[sleek flint]

Is this a known issue? https://smapi.io/log/e0195d05e9244b6daec03fa29370de68

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 58 C# mods and 76 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[sleek flint]

I don't see anything in my code which could have caused anything remotely even close to this, and I remember reading there were problems with SMAPI and Antiviruses, so I wanna make sure.

[lucid mulch]

Yes, in a new install of windows 11, Smart App Control will start off in an Evaluation mode where it'll watch but not take action, and at some point later in the lifespan of the windows install it'll either turn on and start enforcing stuff, or turn off if it detected too many occurances.

The fixes are turn off Smart App Control, or have every single mod get code signed

[sleek flint]

Ok thanks SinZ

[finite sequoia]

Would anyone know how SVE manages to add the blur to their screenshots, or is it just an after effect?

[brave fable]

pretty sure it's just an after effect. unless it really does also add this funny lens flare sun ingame hahah
https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1303/images/3753/3753-1621993363-1916095688.png

that said there's a separate fake DOF mod

[finite sequoia]

I swear I remmeber some sort of mod from the past year that added the blur while in game? But that still game out 1 year ago vs. ~5

[tiny zealot]

there are several mods that can add a similar blur effect in-game

[brave fable]

this one i believe

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21959

[finite sequoia]

Perhaps it is a little easier to go into Aseprite and blur though since it means I don't need to take new screenshots...😈

[stark ocean]

i've got positions down and whatnot now, just wondering how to format the entries tab. would i need an editdata for each npc i am adding to the wedding, or do i put all three of them under the entries tab under the singular editdata patch?

[finite sequoia]

Yes! Perhaps that's the one I'm thinking of...

Thank you

[brave fable]

imo this effect seems like itd be annoying since you have to move your farmer on top of whatever you want to look at to get rid of the blur

definitely good screenshot candy

[uncut viper]

Nightshade can also do Tilt Shift.

[finite sequoia]

Yeah, in game I'd only be cute for like events and such, but stunning for nexus pictures..!!

[tiny zealot]

i wrote one of the mods that can do this, and for me it's mostly a gimmick since there's no depth map and therefore i find the effect unconvincing

[ornate locust]

You can do them under the Entries tab in one EditData patch

[stark ocean]

do you happen to know the best way to format that? 🙏 i find i am unsure where the parentheses should go in between each entry without messing up my other brackets haha...

sorry for all the questions!!!

what i have currently. no red brackets thus far

[lucid mulch]

Pro tip, have all the closing brackets on the same indentation that opened it, which would show the fact you have your when block incorrectly inside Entries

[stark ocean]

ahh i was unawares that it goes on the outside, so that's a me thing. lol

will fix!

[lucid mulch]

VSCode is trying to tell you that as well with the colour coding, the purple brackets are inside the yellow brackets, if they were siblings it would be yellow as well

[stark ocean]

it's helpful when you know how to use it it seems!! it's a learning curve for me that's for sure

[tribal steppe]

Does anyone have a Nexus link for retro or natural recolours?

[ornate drift]

i dont see a release for tilesheetinator

huh, i put tilesheetinator in the plugins folder but its not there

nvm i think its enabled

!map

whats the command again

[hard fern]

for what?

[ornate drift]

maps

tilesheets

i have my building with me rn and i need to make it into a tilesheet

[hard fern]

there is no command for that specifically

[ornate drift]

nvm i did it

okay tiled is gonna be a nightmare to use again

[fresh tree]

Hi guys good morning

Does anyone know if there's a setting I can use to force the keyboard to open on Android?

[long jungle]

For Content Patcher Tokens, I was wondering what location name to use for Mine Levels.

I tried to test names by using "debug warp UndergroundMines1", as per the debug mode's location name but it returns an error instead of teleporting me to Floor 1 of the Mines.
Then, I tried removing the number... "UndergroundMines" and it still didn't do anything.

In general, I need the condition to be "whenever the player is in the mines" but I see there is no location context for the "mines", much less a location name.

[gentle rose]

this is the list of plugins, tilesheetinator is an extension so it doesn’t show up (I know it’s confusing, I wish I had a way of doing something about that but I don’t 😭)

and no release because the source code IS the release in this case

you know what, next time I update it I should add a popup saying “tilesheetinator is enabled now” with a “don’t show this again” checkbox

[void aspen]

yoo that's so much dls overnight

[floral stream]

the download stats feel so inaccurate lol

its so confusing how in 2 different places it can show different download amounts for the same mod

[long jungle]

[void aspen]

that threw me off a bit too

[vernal crest]

The unique vs total DLs?

[void aspen]

nope

[brave fable]

use LOCATION_IS_MINES:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries#World

[void aspen]

difference in dls when you look at it on the main mod page and on the mod list page

[vernal crest]

Ah, lag in syncing I assume

[void aspen]

most likely

[brave fable]

although, as a content patcher token..

using patch summary shows that LocationName evaluates to UndergroundMine1 while in the mines as we expect, so it stands to reason that we can use a naive check like "Query: '{{LocationName}}' LIKE 'UndergroundMine*'": true

[floral stream]

im also so confused bc a mod i havent updated in almost a year got 96 downloads yesterday and the day before that it got 1 download 😭 (i dont usually watch my downloads much but i was close to 3k udls and randomly flew past it)

[floral stream]

actually i see why now, it was added to a youtuber's mod collection lol

[long jungle]

Thanks! I will see if it works.

[glossy frost]

oops

[long jungle]

I found a solution! I doubt you're interested but here's what worked.

Instead of

"LocationName": "UndergroundMine5"

...I used...

"LocationUniqueName": "UndergroundMine5"

...and it worked!

Apparently, it's the same thing when you want to specifically target one specific building among identical buildings.

[long jungle]

__

I tried "Condition": "LOCATION_IS_MINES" but it does not work, somehow.

[opaque field]

https://smapi.io/log/79294818d408487d94a7d5197661fe4e here's my smapi log, and my content.json https://smapi.io/json/none/4c21202186d948c4bd38c5448c5cc85e
I'm struggling to figure out why my Banana Pudding Ostriches aren 't showing up at Marnie's shop

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.17.0.19, with 62 C# mods and 46 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[torpid sparrow]

you can do patch summary urmodid just to get the patches for u btw

so u dont have to get a summary for ALLLL ur mods

[opaque field]

I know, and I usually do but I had a few others I wanted to look at TT

[torpid sparrow]

hm they just didnt apply

[opaque field]

hm, I'll try on a different blank save and see if they show up then

[gaunt orbit]

Nice! What mod was it?

[vernal crest]

Can you show the json for the ostriches too, please?

[opaque field]

ooh, yes! https://smapi.io/json/none/9a143ec456c3468e9b1d3c9d81f62c69

[vernal crest]

Thanks ^_^ While I check, have you done a patch export of data/farmanimals to check if the ostrich is there?

(Also please i18n these!)

[opaque field]

not on the newest blank save let me run do that

https://smapi.io/log/a67baa57890948b589707638dc8601b5 here's the new smapi log

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.17.0.19, with 62 C# mods and 46 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[brittle pasture]

your purchase price is -1, that means disabling direct purchase

[vernal crest]

Ooh nice spotting Selph

[opaque field]

oop yeah that'll do it! okay now to i18n these babies

[vernal crest]

Even though Selph found the issue, FYI for future: a patch export has nothing to do with your log. It's about exporting the asset so you can see whether your patches added the data correctly.

[opaque field]

ooohhhh okay ty

[floral stream]

mineral nodes

also i looked back at that mod and realised ive gotten a lot better at modding in the last year lmao

[pale marten]

Ok so I've run into a problem with creating crops for forage in my mod, I can plant the seeds just fine but the textures dont load (they do yield the correct seeds though) and the plants are harvested with a scythe even though I didn't put that into the mod
anyone able to tell me where I went wrong?
https://smapi.io/log/b63954712a4c4354a5b11749b2b279dd

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 4 C# mods and 2 content packs.

[brittle pasture]

!json code pls

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[jovial jungle]

i had an idea for a silly mod, and started working on it

all it's gonna do is replace artifacts and minerals with various references to other games

i can share the sprites for it later in #making-mods-art but i am not at my computer lol

some examples of what i've done so far, i've replaced the ancient doll with the guide voodoo doll from terraria, the dwarf computer with a command block from minecraft, one of the strange dolls with mr. plantegg from omori, and the gold relic with the triple star from kirby squeak squad (or more specifically the one from super star ultra)

many of the minerals are also replaced with minecraft and terraria ones so far, like a chlorophyte bar, a chunk of luminite, some redstone dust, and some ancient debris

also a few types of grist from homestuck lol

i also wanna like. change up the dialogue and gifting to make villagers who would like them or hate them react properly

[vernal crest]

That's fun! People like references (I rarely get any but I enjoy it when I do haha)

[jovial jungle]

thank you! i thought it'd be a fun and silly mod

although one of the minerals was changed to artifact grist from homestuck, which is just a chunk of jpeg artifacting and corruption

and i dunno if i want sebastian to love it (he finds ironic enjoyment from it) or hate it (he's a web developer and programmer he likely HATES jpeg artifacting)

[vernal crest]

Make it change randomly :D One day he finds it hilarious, another day he refuses to even accept it because he's grumpy

[hidden tinsel]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/43647 oh my god I needed exactly that three weeks ago

godsent

[lucid iron]

Is this different than sprites in detail and such

[hidden tinsel]

yeah, it ✨ works ✨

I lost too many braincells trying to get sprite in details to work properly, and in the end I gave up

[ornate locust]

seeing that Harvey next to a vanilla player character is scary

like all those more pixel sprites next to player characters who are vanilla style remind me of those old creepypastas about something too realistic in an old video game

[pale torrent]

WHAT OMG

[pale torrent]

I really hope it works with the player sprite too

[quasi dew]

I've had good luck with https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/36813 if you need a similar backup mod

[hidden tinsel]

yeah I tried that one too, but it had a weird behavior where it wouldn't pick the right frame during animations

but thank you!

[hidden tinsel]

omg that would be amazing

[pale torrent]

Im still hoping for a mod that lets me make bigger player sprites and lets me scale them down in game ugh

[dawn ore]

Is there a way to have a flag that is "1 year after quest X was completed"? That I could use as a condition to make quest B only appear a year after quest A is finished.

[tiny zealot]

almost. is "not quite a full year" okay or does it have to be exactly a year?

whenever you complete a quest, the game generates a conversation topic about it https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Generic_topics
questComplete_<questId>

[buoyant moon]

Could you chain together CTs so a "year" + a week + a day (using three different entries) would get to the actual anniversary?

[tiny zealot]

scroll up slightly on that link to "topic memory" and you can see the entry for _memory_oneyear which is actually 104 days and not 112 because Reasons™

[tiny zealot]

you probably could but it's up to you whether it's worth the effort

[hidden tinsel]

I think you could do that with Fashion Sense, by creating a new farmer body type & sleeves for the arms, and scaling it down

[pale torrent]

I tried that yesterday and i still am stuck with the scaling part i really need help with that

[lucid iron]

Iirc your problem is tha you didn't write valid json

The scale line needs to be "Scale": 4, and make sure all ur commas r appropriately separated

[pale torrent]

i did and it still does nothing i dont get it it still doesnt scale the sprite down

[near imp]

if i were you i would check if FashionSense has any example packs that use scale, and/or download a few fashionsense items from nexus that use the scale feature, and see how their json is formatted

persistence pays off

[lucid iron]

4 is the normal scale you would have to put 1

[pale torrent]

Oooh thats a good idea i just neeed to look for some^^

[pale torrent]

I tried 1 and 2 it also doesnt work

[hidden tinsel]

did you put "UniformAnimation" or "MovementAnimation" ?

[near imp]

The guide on server roles said I should ask in "making-mods" which I assume means here. Since i just got the farmer rank (and have some mods on nexus), may I officially request being covered in cheeto dust and spritzed with mountain dew?

[torpid sparrow]

New Cheeto!

[near imp]

[pale torrent]

Yes i put uniform animation under it

[hidden tinsel]

mmmh

what does it look like?

nothing at all?

in game i mean

[calm nebula]

Dm bouncer

[pale torrent]

It looks the same the same size and not changed at all i tried it with 2 and 1 and nothing changed

[hidden tinsel]

it'd be easier if you could show me the sprite you're using & a screenshot of it in game

[pale torrent]

so thisi how it looks in the game and im using a 64x128 sprite or did you mean the sprite sheet?

[hidden tinsel]

DAMN CHONKY

love it hahaha

okay now let me see your json file

[pale torrent]

ahahhaa thanks sooon the mod for the lovers will be out ahhaa

[pale torrent]

how should i send it??

as a screenshot or full file?

[hidden tinsel]

screenshot is fine

[pale torrent]

heree

[hidden tinsel]

ok I'm looking into it!

have you tried with scale: 8 ?

[pale torrent]

i can waittt

[hidden tinsel]

btw do you know how to quickly reload your fahsion sense pack without quitting the game? because I found out a few hours ago it's saved me so much time

[pale torrent]

still nope nothing changed :<

[pale torrent]

NOO HOW??

[hidden tinsel]

omg

you need the mod Debug Mode first

then you type fs_reload_continuous in the smapi console

it will reload the mod every few seconds so you can see changes immediately

[near imp]

alternatively, manually typing fs_reload into smapi can be done when needed without debug mode, but as you say isnt automatic

[hidden tinsel]

and I also recommend unchecking the "Pause when window is inactive" option in the game menu

oh wait yeah maybe it works without debug mode

i think i got things mixed up

[pale torrent]

niceee

hehehhe

but uh still doesnt work ugh

[hidden tinsel]

I'm checking something else wait wait I'll help you

I want to know how to make this work

[pale torrent]

if you do this i will make you a custom player model im so desperate

[hidden tinsel]

that's lovely hahaha

don't worry we'll find out how this works !!

[mellow laurel]

you can use the continuous command without debug mode too

[pale torrent]

THANK YOUUU EEEEK

[hidden tinsel]

good to know thanks!

[near imp]

ah makes sense. that alleged debug mode requirement thing was new to me but i had only heard of the non continous version before so wasnt sure if that was also default smapi

[mellow laurel]

yeah both are just commands from FS, I think if you type !help into smapi you can see them all

[hidden tinsel]

omg can we?

[mellow laurel]

-# or maybe just help I don't remember 😬

[hidden tinsel]

wait im trying rn

OMG

where has this been all my life

🥹

it was just "help" btw

[pale torrent]

im not a coder but this is super helpful

[hidden tinsel]

I think you have to play with the values

it should go below 4 to get it smaller

[near imp]

-8 perhaps?

[pale torrent]

i can try wait

[hidden tinsel]

negative values will turn the sprite upside down, try it to see if it does something

if it doesn't then that means the problem is in the json formatting

[near imp]

good troubleshooting tip that

[pale torrent]

yep it does completly nothing

[hidden tinsel]

I'm doing it with a mod I got on nexus as we speak lol

[near imp]

Pommes you really gotta look at some of the other mods at this point

[hidden tinsel]

ok so leave the scaling to -4 for now, we need to look at your comas and {

copy paste the whole json code here, you can use the thing to type code in discord when you select the text

[near imp]

noooo do not copy paste it here

[hidden tinsel]

oh?

[near imp]

just think about it for a second, if everyone was posting full json copy and pastes here we would be drowning in walls of text

use https://smapi.io/json

[hidden tinsel]

oh neat!

[uncut viper]

(Seconding Kattia- please use the uploader)

[hidden tinsel]

understood

[near imp]

(also sorry if that got too close to minimodding, i forgot myself for a sec imagining the incoming wall of text)

[pale torrent]

oh im sorry

[hidden tinsel]

thanks for telling me I'm new here

ok i'm looking at your json!

[torpid sparrow]

(Hi Button, Kattia wanted Cheeto earlier)

[pale torrent]

i know its bad ahahha

[hidden tinsel]

u know what i'm gonna make a sprite of the same size and test it in my game

if I'm slow don't worry I haven't forgotten you

[pale torrent]

dont worry im so happy hehehehe

[hidden tinsel]

what horrors have i unleashed

[uncut viper]

(Role stuff is as far as I'm aware still a full junimos job and not one for junimos in training, and I'm not very available right now anywho! My apologies to Kattia)

[pale torrent]

uh if ya want i can send you the test sprite sheet i used ahahah

[near imp]

No problem 👌 its not an urgent matter

[uncut viper]

(Also you're fine here, no worries )

[torpid sparrow]

I didn't know you were still in training

[uncut viper]

For as long as I've got the "Apple Boi" role! Aka 3 months from February

[hidden tinsel]

I think Fashion Sense just might be bugged ._.

[pale torrent]

huh??

[hidden tinsel]

I stripped it down to the bare minimum to check for any possible error in the json formatting, there's no error possible with this

unless I'm blind

the scaling doesn't do anything on bodies somehow

even though the doc says it should

[pale torrent]

thats so weird?

[hidden tinsel]

I'm gonna report the bug

I'll ping you if I get any info

[urban patrol]

are you absolutely sure you’re editing the right file? just to rule out issues

[hidden tinsel]

yep positive

[pale torrent]

ugh i wish sprites in detail would let me do the player ugh

[pale torrent]

thats so kind of you THANK YOU

[hidden tinsel]

down the line it'll be better to use Fashion Sense I think, because it's a big big mod that keeps being supported and updated

[pale torrent]

yeah still annoying though okay i guess i have to wait and work on my bachelor sprite mod

[latent mauve]

If I had to guess, I would think that Fashion Sense is making BodySize take priority, which is why Scale doesn't do anything?

[pale torrent]

Sorry im smooth brained what?

[latent mauve]

no worries, I'm way late to this conversation, still catching up

[burnt canyon]

Helloooo everyone!

[latent mauve]

okay, caught up now, if you've already reported the bug, don't worry about any suggestions I might have made.

I was doing a dive into the wiki and the only examples are scaling up, not scaling down, so it's possible there is something missing there.

[fading walrus]

(Aw, butt. Cheetoing was one of my favourite training duties!)

[near imp]

Cheetooooo

[jovial jungle]

okay seeing these in game, i definitely need to resprite them to match the style, but hey! it's working!

(ignore the pink boxes)

(those exist just so i know the sprite dimensions)

(they will be removed later)

[near imp]

working is good! no use for resprites if they dont show up

[jovial jungle]

lol fair yeah

[ornate trellis]

is that the terraria guide voodoo doll

[jovial jungle]

yes

it replaces the ancient doll lol

[ornate trellis]

beautiful

[jovial jungle]

this is planned to be a mod that replaces artifacts and minerals with silly references

[near imp]

i think i also spy the minecraft redstone dust

[jovial jungle]

yup

[near imp]

is that the.. jungle related (derping on name) metal bar from terraria too?

[hard fern]

is that nether scrap...?

[near imp]

very fitting what with the forge easter egg

[ornate trellis]

chlorophyte

i may or may not have spelled that right

[jovial jungle]

in order, it's

Mr. Plantegg (Omori)
Build Grist (Homestuck)
Luminite (Terraria)
Command Block (Minecraft)
Ancient Debris (Minecraft)
Voodoo Doll (Terraria)
Perfect Emblem (Rhythm Heaven)
Diancite (Pokemon)
Triple Star (Kirby Squeak Squad / Kirby Super Star Ultra)
Artifact Grist (Homestuck)
Chlorophyte (Terraria)
Redstone (Minecraft)

[jovial jungle]

that's the idea!

the command block also goes over the dwarf computer, so you use it for the farm scanner computer thingy

[near imp]

i can actually hear the WoF sound play in my mind when i imagine it

[hard fern]

(oh, it's called ancient debris lol. i havent played minecraft since what... 1.16? whichever update added all the villager stuff)

[jovial jungle]

ancient debris is the block, netherite scrap is the item

[near imp]

same lmao

[jovial jungle]

but it feels right to call it ancient debris in the context of the museum

y'know?

so you were right and i was deliberately wrong

gonna have the perfect emblem be a loved gift for sam but even he'll mention he feels kinda stressed out around it

[orchid glade]

When you use "HasProfession |contains=Blacksmith": "true",, does that search for partial match, or does it match the whole field. (I.e. if there was "Blacksmith" and "Apprentice Blacksmith", would it resolve true for either, or just the first one?

[jovial jungle]

"Woah... A perfect!? Dude, it's such an honor to get one of these! It'll give our band some serious cred!"

"Although, now I feel kinda stressed... What if we mess up? We can't settle for Just Okay!"

this mod has the side effect of making minerals and artifacts really good sources of friendship

as. let's face it, they weren't an actually viable method of money making

[ruby marsh]

@lucid iron Hi! The API is ready in LittleNPCs 2.2-beta.20260316 . Please tell me if it works.

[jovial jungle]

i plan on nearly every mineral or artifact having at least one person who likes it for one reason or another

unless it's funnier for nobody to like it

like artifact grist lmao

[lucid iron]

Remind me in 3 hours

[brittle pasture]

IIRC it has to be an exact match
(also there's only one "Blacksmith" profession but I'm assuming you're just using an example)

[lucid iron]

Hm is bot work

[jovial jungle]

also i am totally gonna make one of the minerals into Hector / a Pet Rock from OMORI, and then frame both it and mr. plantegg as lost toys of jas and vincent as a cheeky lil reference to the game

[uncut viper]

Correct it is a whole match as it is looking for that entry in a hashset

[uncut viper]

You have to ask it to remind you of Something

[lucid iron]

remind me to look at this api in 3 hours

[patent lance]

Oh okay, chu2.718281828459045235360287471 (#7108426) (3h | <t:1773706487>)

[lucid iron]

Yay

[orchid glade]

Yep just an example 🙂

[orchid glade]

Thank you both 🙂 and that's exactly what I want 🙂

[jovial jungle]

JAS: Mr. Plantegg!!! I've been looking all over for you!!! Thank you for finding him. Now let's get you cleaned up.
VINCENT: Hector, Buddy, where'd you run off to!? Thanks for finding him, Mister/Miss! He musta been on an adventure!

[barren tapir]

I've just published my first release of my expanded slime ranching mod! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/43751

[jovial jungle]

Shadow Crystal
Demetrius (Liked)
"Interesting... This crystal is somehow producing negative photon readings... Very, very interesting..."

Build Grist
Haley (Hated)
"UGH, Get that thing away from me!! It reminds me of Emily's... Sharpie Incident... the house reeked of nail polish remover for weeks!"

Ancient Debris
Dwarf (Loved)
"Where did you get this!? This material is legendary for my people, said to be from another dimension altogether!"

[hard fern]

did emily take a bath in sharpie

[jovial jungle]

she doesn't like talking about her and maru's homestuck phase

[dire kestrel]

would you like a publish in #mod-showcase?

[barren tapir]

Yes please!

[dire kestrel]

there you are congrats on release!!!

[radiant geyser]

congrats!

[barren tapir]

Thanks!

I'm currently working on adding the next machine to the mod (rn I just want to test if I animated it correctly, as I've never done animations before).

This is the current sprite sheet.

Also, I know that is supposed to be a thumbs up, but it really does look like it's flipping you off when viewed on a small screen 😅

[hard fern]

pufferthumbsup more like pufferfuckoff XD

[jovial jungle]

shane if he were a fish

[barren tapir]

Yeah, when I first saw mia's message I felt so conflicted.

Also, I know there are random red dots on the sprite sheet. They're just there so I know what frames to loop.

[jovial jungle]

btw are there other options for hosting mods bc nexus is kinda clunky for my tastes

or is nexus really the only option

[hard fern]

ehhh there are, but theyre kinda unpopular

[jovial jungle]

bleh

maybe one day we'll get our Modrinth

[hard fern]

I will admit sometimes i just do not post mods because i don't want to make a mod page for them.

[opaque field]

^^ I feel this so hard

[barren tapir]

I've only published 3 mods thus far, but I do agree that (at least on the dev side) Nexus can be a bit frustrating at times. But I think it's great on the user side!

[jovial jungle]

eh even on the user side it's annoying

can't download without an account

have to go through the premium popup every time you download something

[lucid iron]

Fwiw, smapi is officially available on nexus github curseforge

[jovial jungle]

curseforge is NOT better lmao

[lucid iron]

I don't really like curseforge they r bad vibes

[jovial jungle]

github is good tho

if not great for discovery

[lucid iron]

Github is negative user friendly unfortunately

[dire kestrel]

i use mod.pub it's pretty cool 🐤

[hard fern]

the only problem ive noticed is that people get really confused on how to download things from github if they don't already know

[lucid iron]

The amount of time people downloaded my repository source code instead of the release...

[hard fern]

🖐️ 😔 hi it's me im the source code downloader

[dire kestrel]

stardew modding is a bit annoying about this because unless you're hosting somewhere popular you can't implement update keys

[near imp]

no thats me

[barren tapir]

No, I'M Spartacus!

[jovial jungle]

unrelated but one day i'm tempted to make my own take on a pride festival that feels more. canon compliant? as a trans woman i would LOVE a pride festival mod but i don't like any of the current takes

[ornate trellis]

theres a source code downloader in all of us

[ornate locust]

go for it

[hard fern]

gonna start dropping mods in discord chat with a zip that's just a string of numbers. this is surely the best solution

[jovial jungle]

especially the one that makes george bisexual lmao

[dire kestrel]

forsy. i feel vagued /j

[hard fern]

i agree with not particularly liking any of the existing ones XD i'd be interested in seeing yours

[near imp]

if moderately techsavy(ish) people are getting confused about github downloading i can only imagine how labyrinthine it could seem for even more people

[hard fern]

(good because i was thinking of you :3) ((sorry))

[jovial jungle]

never liked mods that remove george's dialogue on homophobia, idk. it feels realistic as well as well approached

it's nice to see someone slowly coming to accept it, y'know?

it addresses homophobia without being uncomfortable

no reason to sand down the edges

[near imp]

someones grandma or grandpa casually dropping something that was only "a truth" back in the 1800's is definitely peak realism

[void aspen]

whats the average framerate for animations in sdv?

10-12?

[barren tapir]

George is one of my favorite characters, and I for one choose to see him as his full heart self when thinking about his attitudes towards the homosexuality.

[ornate locust]

it's nice to see an old person going "actually wait this is fine" instead of tripling down on it

[hard fern]

"Wed10_inlaw_Alex": "I'll admit, I thought it was... strange... for two men to be together. But you're such a nice young man, and I know you two are in love... I've changed my mind.^You're part of the family, now... and I couldn't be more proud.", this is his 10 heart dialogue for when you marry alex

[barren tapir]

And that's beautiful!

[jovial jungle]

ikr!!! i love that he changes his mind! and opens up to it!

why change that!!

it's sweet

[barren tapir]

YESSSS!

[hard fern]

omnia vincit amor, or something XD

[near imp]

sometimes i feel like the "that never happened, lets pretend nothing was ever wrong" approach feels ..wrong just in a different way

[jovial jungle]

personally, i would love to have a pride festival mod that keeps this aspect of george's character in tact, maybe even having different dialogue depending on your hearts with him

[barren tapir]

THIS!

[ornate locust]

also yes please make more pride mods, let me get more use out of Bill's gay shirt that I spent forever on

[dire kestrel]

(it's a nice shirt, you did really well)

[ornate locust]

Spent more time on it than any other outfit, uses it one day for one mod LOL

[jovial jungle]

plus we can make pierre and joja engage in rainbow capitalism

[near imp]

peak

[uncut viper]

You actually can implement custom update checks.

(I think maybe literally no one has ever done this, though.)

[hard fern]

i can see him being a little huffy at first, not getting why everyone has to make such a big deal out of everything, but softening up later as he sees how happy everyone is

[jovial jungle]

yes!

[barren tapir]

UGGHHH I HATE THAT!!! I feel like massive companies only do it for PR and money most of the time

[hard fern]

joja cola: rainbow haha

[dire kestrel]

THANK YOU BUTTON! i'll read up on this for my next update spree

[ornate locust]

Joja booth with corporate awful merch like they did at Target

[near imp]

that so fitting for pierres character tho

[jovial jungle]

i would likely design mine with the intention of like. "what if it was an actual addition to the game"

[barren tapir]

I'm not arguing that fact, it just annoys me.

[jovial jungle]

with it incidentally acting as a soft tutorial for walk in events (like the midnight market)

and that all bachelors are bi

[ornate locust]

Pierre's booth would have like rainbow cupcakes and stuff that's technically better than the Joja booth because it's just colorful food and not stuff made by committee

but he's still like "AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL"

[near imp]

bought the cupcakes from evelyn at cost, charging u 5x the ingredient price

[ornate locust]

Oh man, doing Target style pride merch from Joja would be amazing

[jovial jungle]

including dialogue like

Alex: I wish I had the stones to go both ways... Could you imagine? Two dudes. All gas, no brakes.

[ornate locust]

https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Target.jpg?fit=1&quality=60&ssl=1&resize=620%2C4000

remember this

this was somehow Target Pride Merch

[near imp]

squints

[barren tapir]

Final thing before I head back to the mines, I almost cried the first time George said something along the lines of "Hold on, let me turn off the tv". It is just so nice!

[jovial jungle]

/ref, a quote from superstore

[hard fern]

it sounds weird but sometimes i forget about the fact that all the bachelor(ettes) are mechanically bi, since like. idk they just are XD

seb does have a line about "never being in a relationship like this before" if you date him as a guy though.

[jovial jungle]

leah has a unique reaction to if you creepily ask for a kiss as a woman

she goes "oh... i didn't know... you too?" while blushing.

and then punches you.

[hard fern]

<- has never ever picked that dialogue option because i'd rather die of embarrassment

[jovial jungle]

LOL

[ornate locust]

https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/jpg-2.jpg?resize=930%2C890&quality=60&ssl=1 honestly I'm not even sure you can get this subtly gay in pixels on clothes without like... not even showing the rainbow bits and just saying them in text

or in the case of this bag, just kinda doing the colors wrong

[near imp]

unpopular opinion maybe: i wish all the bachelors wouldnt hint at feelings for you when they hit 8 hearts
i aint given these people no bouquet, why are they all acting like theyre gonna kiss me. not interested!

[dire kestrel]

that's the magic of working on a comically small canvas

[jovial jungle]

specifically hayley and emily lol

[ornate locust]

https://i0.wp.com/boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/bafkreiffib3njwz6utl2nyjuv35eh3dubk3lk5z33psrbesnkge4fl4mhy.jpg?w=908&quality=60&ssl=1

Perfect Joja pride merch

[barren tapir]

I for one view it as a "alternate dimension" type deal, wherein it depends on whether you're dating and what gender you are. Don't get me wrong, Leah is almost certainly bi imo (granted, I tend to feel uncomfortable assigning sexual orientation to characters), but others like Seb just don't feel like that 😅

[ornate locust]

it could mean "I am a proud gardener"

[jovial jungle]

well i don't i will headcanon everything

/silly

[tepid wasp]

hi friends! im thinking of making a portrait mod, and i was wondering if i can self teach my way into coding a functional mod, or will that be impossible? im simply too broke to commission a modder💔

[hard fern]

i dont really do headcanons either, but i do sometimes just think about stuff like a character's past experiences and stuff. idk, it's fun to imagine without having to solidly nail them down as x or y

[hard fern]

don't worry, it's very easy to make a portrait mod

[near imp]

i wanna say for sure! if you mean making a content patcher pack to add some portraits

[hard fern]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[barren tapir]

I will absolutely head canon things, I just dislike going on and then saying "X character is Y bc I say so".

[ornate locust]

I like a line between headcanon and things actually said, because my dumb memory is bad and it's frustrating to be told a thing is a certain way in canon and then find out it's not

[granite steppe]

I'm trying to replace item icons for modded content but i can't figure out what the target should be to have the function go through. Can someone explain how targets work?

[near imp]

youll want the unique id of the mod in question

[ornate locust]

omg I forgot that Target had Lorem Ipsum on the tags of some of their pride merch... amazing

[near imp]

can be found in their manifest file

[jovial jungle]

ABIGAIL: I can't stand my Dad. One day he's selling rainbow pastries and blankets to look good, and the next he's giving me weird looks for... Ugh, I don't wanna talk about it.

[tepid wasp]

ohh so for portrait mods i'm essentially just editing files? and thank you friends i didn't know there was a wiki specifically for modding

[hard fern]

pierre branded rainbow tote bag...

[ornate locust]

yesss Pierre and Caroline are very Gender Roles. Caroline eases off much easier on it, but still, I can totally see that happening

[near imp]

yep, just some text put together in a file, and if you get stuck with the guide the folks here are usually willing to help out in a tight spot

[jovial jungle]

ABIGAIL: Sometimes I wonder if my Dad is really any better than Joja.

[barren tapir]

IDK, that feels just a bit too sleazy imo. I think the "I wonder if my Dad is better than Joja" is much more apt imo.

[hard fern]

oh that just gave me something to throw into my mod for no reason lol.

[granite steppe]

So say the modid is CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos and i want to replace the Dodo Mayo which has an ID of DodoMayonnaise would the target be "CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos_DodoMayonnaise"?

[ornate locust]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/af/Sickos_Guy.jpg

[jovial jungle]

maybe... i do think it's a concept semi-worth exploring, just gotta figure out a way to word it better

[near imp]

are you trying to replace a texture or an id (or like numbers, names etc)

[granite steppe]

the texture

[barren tapir]

I definitely think its worth exploring! It's just not my cup of tea 😅

[jovial jungle]

note that i wouldn't have pierre actively. hostile? it's just another example of pierre being controlling and disapproving of his daughter

another thing to fit the vibes of, say, the graveyard scene

[near imp]

@granite steppe if the dodo mod has a folder called assets in it you would write it like this: "Target": "CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos/assets/NameOfFile"

where name of file is the png that will be replaced, but it should only be NameOfFile, not NameOfFile.png

[granite steppe]

that may have been my issue

[near imp]

the FromFile should have the .png ending after the filename however

[hard fern]

🤔 according to caroline Pierre's a bit conventional... but he's a good man. He's ambitious, but he always puts his family first.

[barren tapir]

TBF, I've also been playing with a lot of mods lately that introduce new dialog, and it (usually) shines him in a better light (if even on accident). And I like that for him!

[near imp]

puts his family first except hanging out with them at events cough

[ornate locust]

Pierre and Caroline seem very Role-Oriented. Women do this, men do this. Pierre feels pushed to provide, leading to the greedier bits of his business. Caroline talks about being a free spirit before she settled down, so she's kinda crushed into this role of being a Wife and Mother.

that's part of his putting the family first, he's pushing his business because he must Provide

Not realizing it's harmed his relationship with them

The good ol traditionalist tragedy

[barren tapir]

IDK, if there's anyone I'm 100% convinced does drugs in Stardew Valley, it's Emily and (to a slightly lesser degree) Caroline.

[near imp]

thats a good point, havent really considered it that way Midnight. Hanlon's razor and all that

[hard fern]

so you know how people complain about demetrius never acknowledging seb, and then people counter by saying robin never talks much about maru either...

Caroline?? dear god i can't scroll her dialogue without her talking about abby XD

[void aspen]

Emily is just different, doesn't mean she does that 😭

[jovial jungle]

YEAH THAT BOTHERS ME TOO... why doesn't like. anybody in that family talk about each other?

[void aspen]

Wait you just gave me an idea to make her dream location explorable

[barren tapir]

Just saying, her dance scene seemed preeeeeety off to me 😅

[jovial jungle]

seb doesn't talk about maru either, or vise versa

[void aspen]

Sleeping on her bed will warp to this place lool this is so good

[void aspen]

Farmer is the one seeing things, sooo

[barren tapir]

They do! Just, not in a positive light

[ornate locust]

Yeah, Abigail is most of what Caroline does, that's her Job. And when Abby wants to be alone and do her own thing and dress how she likes instead of doing domestic stuff and dressing how Caroline wants, they butt heads.

[barren tapir]

Still not convinced 😅

[ocean sail]

@barren tapir You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now share images in all channels!

[jovial jungle]

stardew valley desperately needs an update dedicated to just. adding dialogue. to everyone.

[barren tapir]

OMG, I can now poke cows?!?!?!

[ornate locust]

Caroline says she wanted to be a rancher and had a hard time settling into being a housewife, it's kinda sad. someone give her a cow

[barren tapir]

Cows better watch out!

[jovial jungle]

gives her a void chicken >:)

[void aspen]

That's one of the hardest tasks to do tbh

Including all the languages too

[jovial jungle]

i know, but like. it's just. it hurts how repetitive the dialogue gets

[hard fern]

well, seb hates maru so it makes sense he wouldn't talk about her. but at the same time i feel like he could complain about her a little more given that they do live in the same house. they're bound to run into each other every now and then. 🤔

[jovial jungle]

how shallow romantic dialogue is

[near imp]

unhinged headcanon: Marnie runs a side business as a veal farm, considering she only ever has calves, never full grown cows, and they "never seem to grow old"

probably why she can afford never fking being around at the store

[jovial jungle]

how characters just don't talk about each other half the time

maru and penny have a monthly book club but i could not tell you a single time they talk about each other outside of that

you start dating maru and robin just. has zero reaction.

[barren tapir]

Hard disagree. Despite living in the same house, my sibling and I have a conversation like, once every 3 months. IF that

[jovial jungle]

demetrius isn't thrilled about you dating maru even when you're at TEN HEARTS WITH HIM.

[ornate locust]

The dialog formatting doesn't help

[near imp]

now, before i start ANOTHER modding project about editing out all romantic over/undertones to any 8 heart dialogue, im not missing a mod that already does this am i?

[hard fern]

ah, well XD

[jovial jungle]

krobus is equivalent to a marriage candidate and has like. twenty lines. total. and one heart event.

drives me up a wall ~_~

[ornate locust]

Platonic Partnerships does this as well as other stuff, IIRC

[dire mesa]

I need to know how it's done. How do y'all replace textures of buildings?

[barren tapir]

I'm really excited for 1.7 Sandy, and curious for Clint.

[jovial jungle]

sandy and clint becoming romancable gives me hope for a dialogue overhaul update

[hard fern]

!cp

[ocean sail]

Content Patcher (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1915) is a mod which loads content packs to change the game's images and data without replacing XNB files. If you want to make mods using Content Patcher, start at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher.

To use this command, type !cp.

[near imp]

ahh, i was looking at Platonic Relationships but that one says it doesnt touch dialogue. i will investigate partnerships more closely and see if it nukes all of the hinting too

[hard fern]

!at if you want at i guess

[ocean sail]

Alternative Textures

Alternative Textures is a framework mod that provides options to change asset textures with in-game tools.

For an interactive list of texture mods, click here.

To make a content pack for AT, see the author's in-depth wiki.

To use this command, type !at.

[jovial jungle]

now i wanna make a dialogue overhaul mod to just. add what i want out of the game...

although it wouldn't be as fun bc i'm the one making it, y'know?

no surprises

[ornate locust]

do it and the pride mod

[near imp]

wheres that "get scope creeped" gif when you need it

[jovial jungle]

yeah...

[near imp]

get someone to bonk you on the head real good after youre finished. maybe youll get lucky and forget

[hard fern]

ah yeah i feel this. i get all the excitement out when writing stuff and then it's not as fun to read it in game

[jovial jungle]

plus it feels like a lotta dialogue mods tend to either really mess with canon in ways that feel. wrong. or just add dialogue to one character and nobody else

which the latter makes sense, that is good

but it then means you gotta get a bunch of dialogue mods and then they might not match each other

[near imp]

the mythical balance between doing too much and not enough

[jovial jungle]

yyyup

[ornate locust]

(maybe if you do this dialog mod, I will lose the urge to do a wizard friendship mod...) I mean yes, two cakes, go for it :)

[jovial jungle]

if i were making one i'd just like. give everyone random pools to pick from? if that's possible?

[hard fern]

well canon friendly dialogue expansion adds uh. canon friendly dialogue XD

[ornate locust]

Oh it's possible

[jovial jungle]

true, i should look into that one

[hard fern]

it is possible to randomize dialogue

[jovial jungle]

the ideal would be randomized dialogue not tied to days of the week, that detail about the game alone drives me up a wall

[ornate locust]

you are welcome to have a look at my TERRIBLE MESS OF DIALOG POOL CODE

which I learned how to do from Axell

[hard fern]

well the day of the week stuff is the dialogue key

but you can randomize the pool of dialogue it pulls from each day of the week

[jovial jungle]

that'd probably be the way to go, yeah

[hard fern]

so like say you can have 5 different lines for a monday, and the game will pick one of those

[ornate locust]

you can add to the pool based on conditions like Kent being home or heart level and such

[near imp]

based on the track record Midnight's "terrible mess" has gotta be a fairly normal "slightly cluttered" for the rest of us, right

[jovial jungle]

although if i did make this i'd need to weigh whether or not i also overhaul a few characters i would. prefer to have different characterizations

not majorly different, but like

[hard fern]

"reject_865": "Fruit and salt? What an odd combination...$s", entirely unrelated but grrr this is the fucking tomato salt isn't it

[jovial jungle]

hayley, i don't like how she seems to be ✨ fixed and perfect ✨ after eight hearts

she should still be messing up! learning how to do better!

[ornate locust]

I mean it's about 580 lines just for the randomization

there is at least some fear in looking in here

Though a lot of it is dialog pools based on having other mods

but you could also add to the random pools based on other people's hearts so dialog can reference other people's character development and everything

There's a lot you can do just to make vanilla NPCs have more dynamic dialog pools

[jovial jungle]

ohhhh true and smart!

[hard fern]

she just becomes all nice in the span of overnight. i think she could benefit from like actually trying to give the other townspeople a chance, like through her schedule and stuff. maybe she helps evelyn with the flowers, or maybe she spends more time with marnie's cows.

[ornate locust]

for a dialog pool with an Arc, you can change the basic pool based on heart level. Mine is more daily everyday, not terribly personal stuff and the pool stays put, but it gets more personal stuff added at higher hearts.

The way Axell figured stuff out, it's really flexible, I love it

[jovial jungle]

likely about what i'd go for

although i'd have to map this all out on like a google spreadsheet first, and weigh exactly which characters to prioritize first and foremost

[fierce vault]

Dialogue randomization sounds so incredibly tiring

[ornate locust]

I also like adding to the pool instead of going by CTs for things like Kent showing up or added mod NPCs so there isn't a topic rush for it.

[jovial jungle]

like as much as i love the dwarf and wizard, they are so painfully out of the way that i wouldn't exactly have them at the top of my list

[fierce vault]

I can't imagine writing that much right now lol

[jovial jungle]

i know very little about other mods so i likely would not consider them

this is the ~omasumi stardew-mod universe~ ecosystem, gotta stay on brand /silly

[ornate locust]

Yeah, as much or as little compatbility as you want, of course. I'm a Much modder

[granite steppe]

I simply do not understand orz.
{
"LogName": "Dodo Mayonnaise",
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos/assets/DodoMayonnaise",
"FromFile": "assets/Dodo/Mayonnaise.png",
"ToArea": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 16, "Height": 16 },
"When": {
"DodoMayonnaiseTexture": true
}
}
That's the image name why doth it defy me 😭

[jovial jungle]

i'll just make sure to not touch any gift dialogue related to minerals or artifacts to keep compatibility with my own mods >:)

[ornate locust]

pushes the Big Compatibility Section for my own dang mod behind my back

"I'm working on compatibility." "for what?" "my own dang other mod"

🤡

[jovial jungle]

the most dynamic dialogue i'd likely implement is the insane amount of variety in demetrius' dialogue depending on both his heart level and maru's lol

[near imp]

can you share your whole content.json here https://smapi.io/json (or wherever youre making the EditImage)

[jovial jungle]

zero heart demetrius and ten heart demetrius should have different reactions to you dating maru

[ornate locust]

I think you could do some good heart level stuff with Emily based on Haley's development

[near imp]

imma download that dodo mod and have a look around for ya @granite steppe

[orchid acorn]

Hello! Was there a way to set which sprite is the kissing one (ik default is 28)

I forgor

[hard fern]

it's probably a field like setkissspriteindex or whatever

but somehow i can't find it 😭

[granite steppe]

hold on it says my freaking data folder is missing the format

Istg if that was it

[jovial jungle]

omg i just had the cutest idea for dialogue i would add

[granite steppe]

no it still does nothin >:u
Content: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/2d01287036d74c2c87ba78227214747f
Data: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f6ae4383919845f68b777b86ae0a5e20

[near imp]

json doth forgiveth no stray lone bracket or missing comma, it can be an unforgiving master

[jovial jungle]

sort of in a similar vein of the mod that makes it so hayley doesn't give up her hobbies

[near imp]

gimme a few min to take a look

[granite steppe]

theres other mods mayos in there, but if i can get one working orz

[jovial jungle]

eight heart hayley starts talking about trusting emily on fashion recommendations!

[ornate locust]

yesss join us stickbug intensifies

[jovial jungle]

or trying on clothes emily makes!

it would be very cute... they're sisters, it'd be nice if they interacted more

changes to festival dialogue depending on heart level could be fun too

[calm nebula]

Definitely

[ornate locust]

yess

[calm nebula]

Make a cutscene of Emily and Haley going to a mall together

[jovial jungle]

AWWW...

dunno if i could do cutscenes just yet but i'll keep that in mind

[void aspen]

omg that was the fastest content patch I ever did

around 5 minutes from scratch

Now we polish it

and its a 5 star michelin mod

[jovial jungle]

omori:

[near imp]

some of your labels have eaten a few commas, that i can see

[granite steppe]

my labels?

[near imp]

trying to upload a version with it fixed in a sec, and you could see if that solves it

the heck.. the commas move when put in the validator im not nearly expert enough to know wtf thats about lol

imma try changing the labels a bit

[barren tapir]

Full set of equipment! The animation is a bit janky, and there's a weird flicker going from the loading to working effects, but I think it looks pretty good (the animated one is the one furthest to the right)!

[granite steppe]

dove mayo and dodo mayo comment having a comma after the asterics is an error, no idea why it is displaying like that

like its after the bracket lol

[near imp]

me neither. but also not sure thats the issue. only recently become somewhat comfortable with content patcher. but i have some spare time so 😅 ill work on it with ya if youll have me

[granite steppe]

yeah absolutely

[mellow laurel]

I don't see a DodoMayonnaise asset in that mod

[barren tapir]

Whelp, I think that's enough modding for now! Imma have dinner then continue building my sewing empire in my SVE playthrough.

[granite steppe]

what do you mean?

[near imp]

is this the right version of the dodo mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/24073 i see the DodoMayonnaise.png

[granite steppe]

yeeee

[mellow laurel]

oop I was looking at the older version 😅

[granite steppe]

oh yeah. Theee new version is a combo of the old mod and Dodos Plus (which is my mod from like 2023 or something)

[fierce vault]

can you set dialogue to only happen during a snowy day?

[void aspen]

im a bit lost on how to add vanilla music to a custom map

Music map property is deprecated it seems

[fierce vault]

It's not

or

[void aspen]

hm

[fierce vault]

It's possible anyway

[void aspen]

then idk why this didnt work :(

I tried both the string and the number

[fierce vault]

what kind of map are you making?

[void aspen]

Just an additional location that doesnt care about weather or seasons

basically an explorable emily dreamscape

[fierce vault]

can you post the json?

[void aspen]

And I want to add its original music

[jovial jungle]

all that brainstorming for other ideas i could make was fun, but it's about time i got back to focusing on the one i'm already making lol #making-mods-art message

[mellow laurel]

Dreamscape is the name you used? looks like it might be EmilyDream

[void aspen]

Ohhh

a bit strange wiki doesnt include these too

[mellow laurel]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Audio

that's where I found it

[void aspen]

I was on soundtrack page probs thats why

tysm ill check rn

yay it works

[near imp]

@granite steppe beginning to suspect ive accidentally given you bad info on how to replace on another mod confused myself. made a very minimal one that replaces a texture from one of my own mods. no show ingame. what does the docs say about this usecase, do they say anything?

[granite steppe]

I've looked at other mods and i've seen 3-5 ways people do it. I've tried them all and haven't got anything working

From what i can see the content patcher wiki only shows vanilla editimage commands

[hard fern]

the simplest would honestly just be to throw the pngs at players and tell them to overwrite the ones in the original mod

[mellow laurel]

this confuses the player

[near imp]

not giving up yet cause this is bothering me personally now

[hard fern]

the player doesn't know how to overwrite pngs....

if the item's png is loaded into the game, then you can just target the same target it was loaded into, right?

alternatively, target the object's item json and change the sprite/spriteindex to be your own

[golden basin]

how owuld i add a new mill product to the mill? i cant really figure it out

[void aspen]

Song of Feathers is so relaxing omg

[granite steppe]

you can edit the Data/Machines and add a new output rule!

Example with the dreaded dododmayo
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Machines",
"TargetField": [ "(BC)24", "OutputRules" ],
"Entries": {
"CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos_DodoMayonnaise": {
"Id": "CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos_DodoMayonnaise",
"Triggers":
[
{
"RequiredItemId": "CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos_DodoEgg"
}
],
"OutputItem":
[
{
"ItemId": "CiriunAlleyKitsu.BFAVDodos_DodoMayonnaise"
}
],
"MinutesUntilReady": 200
}
}
}

you would have to find the milll machine's ID.

oh wait the mill is a building isn't it,,,

[hard fern]

the mill is a building.

[golden basin]

yeah its a building

[hard fern]

it's more or less the same

[golden basin]

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Buildings",
            "TargetField": [
                "Mill",
                "ItemConversions"
            ],
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModID}}_AdauulaStalk": {
                    "Id": "{{ModID}}_AdauulaStalk",
                    "SourceChest": "Input",
                    "DestinationChest": "Output",
                    "RequiredTags": [
                        "fc_mill_item"
                    ],
                    "ProducedItems": [
                        {
                            "ItemId": "{{ModID}}_AdauulaStalk",
                            "MinStack": 2
                        }
                    ],
                    "MaxDailyConversions": -1
                }
            }
        },```

this is what i have and its not really working

im wanting it to make adauula flour too and i just, i dont know what im doing lol

[granite steppe]

it looks like you have an input but no output?

[brittle pasture]

that code looks correct to me; what isn't working (what happens if you use Lookup Anything)

though note that your code is currently turning items with the tag fc_mill_item into stalks

[golden basin]

i think i figured it out!

nope!

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Buildings",
            "TargetField": [
                "Mill",
                "ItemConversions"
            ],
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModID}}_AdauulaFlour": {
                    "Id": "{{ModID}}_AdauulaFlour",
                    "SourceChest": "Input",
                    "DestinationChest": "Output",
                    "RequiredTags": [
                        "id_o_{{ModID}}_AdauulaStalk"
                    ],
                    "ProducedItems": [
                        {
                            "ItemId": "{{ModID}}_AdauulaFlour",
                            "MinStack": 2
                        }
                    ],
                    "MaxDailyConversions": -1
                }
            }
        },```

[tawdry hazel]

hello, I already asked on the other channel abt this, to even know if something like ths was ever done but:
does anyone here has any idea on how to create indoor furniture that works as a water source? without altering the map

[golden basin]

this should work but...its not

[brittle pasture]

spacecore and mmap allows you to assign tile properties to furniture

so you can add Water

[patent lance]

@lucid iron: look at this api (3h ago)

[brittle pasture]

does the rule show up in Lookup Anything or a patch export?

[tawdry hazel]

thanks! I'm gonna see if what I'm thinking it's doable before I ask any further

[golden basin]

im not really sure what you mean by rule

[brittle pasture]

the input-output rule you're trying to add in that code

[granite steppe]

In lookup anything it will show an area with what the item can be turned into through what means. like it shows the recipes

So see if when you look at your stalk if it says anything about the mill

[golden basin]

how do i patch export this cause i dont have that mod

[brittle pasture]

patch export Data/Buildings

it should spit out the final form of Data/Buildings as a json file; you can then confirm that the game really added your rule

(highly recommend LA btw, it's a useful tool to have for debugging)

[vernal crest]

What are you trying to replace?

[near imp]

oh thank god Aba is here /gen

[fierce vault]

is there a way to trigger santa's sleigh during the sell screen at bedtime, like how it happens before the winter star?

[granite steppe]

a png for an modded object

[golden basin]

got it working!

[vernal crest]

Patch export data/objects and use what's in the Texture field for your target.

[granite steppe]

how and where do i input that command? like in the smapi console?

[brittle pasture]

(what did you do, for future reference)
(no need to answer)

[vernal crest]

Yep. It'll tell you where it puts the file. The command is patch export data/objects

[golden basin]

i had a conflicting pack where i had tried to do this before. forgot it was there

patch*

[lucid iron]

anyone know if there's a mod that makes farm animal gender matter

[granite steppe]

I know theres one that makes them use they/them pronouns <:)

[near imp]

@granite steppe did you see the "Texture": "SMAPI/ciriunalleykitsu.bfavdodos/assets/DodoMayonnaise.png", yet? does it work if you use that? (im keen to make sure im able to patch like this too so curious if you got it working )

[granite steppe]

mmhmm, I'm moving stuff around

[near imp]

mhm it works?

[granite steppe]

In this instance you think i include the .png?

cause without it sure doesn't work XD

[lucid iron]

i was thinking more like animal breeding tbh

rather than just text changes

[near imp]

i have no idea ive decided i got too presumptious thinking i could help anyone with anything and have decided to sit down and listen for a while longer

[granite steppe]

that's so real

[near imp]

@vernal crest do we include the .png ?

[tiny zealot]

no, on a field called Texture that calls for a game asset you should not be using a filename extension

[vernal crest]

Ohhhh that means they didn't load the texture

[near imp]

cries in further confusion

[vernal crest]

They must be using internal asset key (why?????)

Ohhhh well

[granite steppe]

would i need to load the texture?

[brittle pasture]

the only mods that do so to my knowledge made them different species since it's easier

[vernal crest]

You will need to edit the data/objects patch to replace the texture field entirely with your own instead

[tiny zealot]

☝️🤓 technically, perf is a why for this (i'm only saying this so sinz doesn't come tell everyone to use it more /lh)

[near imp]

@ornate locust 's rant about Haleys Bakery and something about not loading feels familiar to this

[brittle pasture]

(like if you're already going to make them have different produce may as well make em separate animals)

[calm nebula]

Do breeding mechanics come into play

[vernal crest]

That was for maps and we have a way around it now. But our way around this one is even easier.

[vernal crest]

You will need to load your own texture and then use that in the texture field. Make sure that your sprite is set up so that it's the same sprite index as the original one.

[uncut viper]

(Is there a reason they could not also just edit the SpriteIndex)

[near imp]

i just wish i knew what "edit the data/objects patch to replace the texture field entirely with your own" meant modding is very humbling for the ego like i know what the words mean in english individually, but still

[granite steppe]

So obviously the texture is wrong here in light of that knowlege, but is this how you would edit the texture field?
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"Fields":{
"Large Mayonnaise": {
"Texture": "assets/Large/Standard/Mayonnaise.png"
}

[vernal crest]

Pretty much, yeah.

[calm nebula]

(Baked into save)

[uncut viper]

The SpriteIndex gets changed a bunch though bc of Item.ResetParentSheetIndex()

[vernal crest]

You get very confused and concerned users if they already have the object when installing the mod

[uncut viper]

One day I will remember every single field that is cached and which is serialized and which is not, but that day isn't going to be any time soon.

[granite steppe]

{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "assets/Large/Standard/Mayonnaise",
"FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
}
Is that how one would load correctly?

[uncut viper]

That said I just changed the SpriteIndex in the content pipeline of an item I already had and it changed just fine.

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #7707 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1483265322076209254)

[vernal crest]

Your target should not have the word assets in it because that will contribute to the confusion some people have about how to use a Texture field. Make it "{{ModId}}/LargeMayonnaise" or something instead, the important bit being the {{ModId}}/

[vernal crest]

Hmm maybe I'm misremembering about objects then

[uncut viper]

The SpriteIndex won't change mid-game unless something forces it to update its parent sheet index but after a relaunch, no problem.

Which there would be after you installed a mod.

[vernal crest]

Maybe since it didn't change when I was testing because I wasn't relaunching I did not pick up on that

[calm nebula]

Are you in 1.6.16?

[vernal crest]

@granite steppe I am happy to explain if you're not sure why I said that about the texture field

[near imp]

(i would be very happy to know more if you have the time Aba )

[vernal crest]

Sure! What part specifically should I expand upon for you?

[granite steppe]

If my target name is {{ModId}}/LargeMayonnaise do I have to have my image file be titled LargeMayonnaise?

I have a learning disability and im trying to connect the dots but i am confused orz

[uncut viper]

Me? No

[vernal crest]

You're doing fine :) yes, your file would need to be named that because you're using the {{TargetWithoutPath}} token. But you can just change the bit after the {{ModId}}/ to match the name of your file instead or remove the TargetWithoutPath token and handwrite the file name into the FromFile field instead. All acceptable options.

[placid talon]

Hi all. Coming back to the game after a couple years break. There was a mod that added a button to the inventory screen that you could click to autosort items from your inventory into chests that had the same item. Seems I no longer have that mod, anyone know what it's called?

[calm nebula]

I distinctly remember you writing a trigger action for 6480 to reset things

#making-mods-general message

[vernal crest]

Welcome back to the game :) Try heading to #modded-stardew - that's the channel for stuff relating to using mods, whereas this one is for making them.

(The mod you're after might be convenient inventory though)

[near imp]

I think im confused in general exactly when and how to Load from previously i was only familiar with Action:Load as a way to for example replace a whole ass vanilla tilesheet, and have been trying to get away from that by making more selective edits with Action:EditImage and whatnot. But i also remember someone saying something about always Loading first is best practice. But is that for custom assets only, ie when things arent replacing something vanilla?

[uncut viper]

I wrote it for someone else, not 6480, and mainly as a way to change the Price of existing objects
I did also just say the same exact thing now that I said back then! It is still true. A reload is not a relaunch

[tiny zealot]

yes, loading first is mandatory if you are adding an asset to the game

[granite steppe]

what am i targetting? The name of the asset I am trying to replace?

[brave fable]

you didn't specify which location you're checking, you'll want to reread the GSQ wiki page for info on using the command and its parameters:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries#Target_location

[vernal crest]

The reason we're loading in this situation is because we can't actually edit the texture itself due to it being an internal asset. So Alley isn't editing an existing asset, they're saying to the game "instead of using the asset from that mod, use the asset from my mod instead".

[vernal crest]

In your load patch? No, you make up your own target because you're now just adding a new asset to the game which you will point the game to when it wants to grab a texture for the mayo.

[near imp]

can you explain internal asset in any other words? sorry im genuinely not trying to be difficult 😭 and i really appreciate everyones willingness to spoon feed me

[vernal crest]

We can't touch stuff inside other people's mods. At all.

[near imp]

oh

[vernal crest]

People think that their mods edit the files inside other mod folders but that is not true.

[granite steppe]

so if its {{ModId}}/LargeMayonnaise
then
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"Fields":{
"Large Mayonnaise": {
"Texture": "{{ModId}}/LargeMayonnaise"
}
}

[near imp]

just aiming at the same spot as the other mod, something like that?

[granite steppe]

cause the modid is the modid of the mod im making right now

[vernal crest]

CP adds those files to the game and then we edit those. This person hasn't added it to the game so we can't edit it.

[near imp]

and they havent added it to the game because they didnt Load it? (hopeful)

[calm nebula]

The example i can find out of my messages here appears to be weeds on the ground, lol

[near imp]

so Alley is first correctly Loading his files to the game, then hes going into the record where the game has written down where the mayo texture is found, and telling it to instead look at his texture for that?

(sorry about the pronouns my brain did a derp)

[granite steppe]

(You're good)

[near imp]

I think im understanding it a bit more now then. But the bit about assets when loading, we're not supposed to Load to that, because its wrong or, misleading?

or causes confusion?

[hard fern]

sorry to butt in, but if i have an event where a choice is made at the beginning of an event that I want to affect the ending, but yet the middle of the event is the same between both, would i have to more or less copy the whole thing to each branch of the choice, and only change the ending?

[tiny zealot]

you might be able to do something with special event variable 1, to save the result of the choice and then check it later

i'm not very familiar with it and my guess is it's at least moderately cursed, so good luck

[hard fern]

oh dear

[brave fable]

you can use any number of checks to determine which ending to fork to. dialogue answers, conversation topics, mail received, you name it, just fork to the middle common script and then fork to separate ones at the end

it's even easier with 1.6.16 goto syntax

[vernal crest]

Confusion and bad practice. You can technically put whatever you want in the target when you're loading a new texture asset but my experience is that when other modmakers come along to retexture your asset, they think they're trying to edit the files actually in your mod folder. That leaves them confused as to how the Texture field works (it can't use mod folder files unless someone uses the ``{{Internal AssetKey}}` token) and then when they're trying to edit a mod where the texture hasn't been loaded to a Target that matches the file path they can't figure out how to find what the Target is. That is on them, obviously, but why not avoid it if we can?

More importantly, it leads to people using non-unique asset names. For example, Otter and RivalRabbit have incompatible hedgehog mods because both of them load to "assets/hedgehog" instead of "{{ModId}}/hedgehog". If they used the latter their asset names would be unique so a player could have both mods installed at once.

[tiny zealot]

issue seems to be checking the choice later, rather than right away (after the shared middle)

[near imp]

That makes perfect sense thank you 💕

[hard fern]

hmmm well fancy event stuff sounds scary

[brave fable]

why? fork/qq are very simple

[tiny zealot]

one of these days i'll release my event crimes mod and then there can be even more complicated nonsense to deal with

[hard fern]

ah well im already using quick question for. my question. but then i realized that fuck my choices have consequences haha...

[tiny zealot]

however i am doing a different thing instead, for modfest, so that's backburnered

[vernal crest]

Yeah the fork command seems to be what you want here. Get your answer earlier in the event, then continue event, then use fork to pick ending based on earlier answer.

[hard fern]

got it

i'll change the quick question to a fork then

[vernal crest]

No no

Leave the QQ

You want fork, not question fork.

[hard fern]

wait now im confused

[vernal crest]

Just set a mail flag in one of QQ branches and then check it later with the fork command.

[hard fern]

ah

[vernal crest]

This is assuming you only have two options. If you have more it's still possible just a bit nested.

[hard fern]

i, thankfully, only have two options

[void aspen]

when I add custom tilesets, I don't have to do anything as long as I have tsinator on, right?

I have it in my mod subfolder and I load it with content

[vernal crest]

Yup

Just add your mod's tilesheet folder as a tilesheet "mod" and then add your tilesheet to the map from there

[brave fable]

you probably want something like this

/speak {{NPC}} \"hi @.\"
/pause 1000
/-- Decide the ending in this question-answer via mailflags --
/quickquestion how about A?
  #yes, i'd love A
  #no, i'd rather B
  (break)pause 1000
    \\speak {{NPC}} \"i love A too!\"
    \\mailReceived {{ModId}}_Flag_A
  (break)pause 1000
    \\speak {{NPC}} \"i was actually hoping you'd say B!\"
    \\mailReceived {{ModId}}_Flag_B
/-- Middle of the event script goes here --
/-- Go to ending A --/fork {{ModId}}_Flag_A {{ModId}}_EventScript_A
/-- Go to ending B --/switchEvent {{ModId}}_EventScript_B

while ending B is unconditional and doesn't need a flag, i chose to set the mailflag anyway for clarity

[granite steppe]

I have to be doing something incorrect still but i cannot detect it
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/552996bb0ab04cf4a7907688dea3a4ce
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4bda2d7a931441a8940256766fcd36b9

[vernal crest]

Can't Forsy just leave the ending of the original event as one of the two choices?

[brave fable]

well there's supposed to be some lengthy event script between the question and the ending

which means either duplicating the middle (undesirable) or saving a flag to check later

[vernal crest]

You appear to be editing your own mayonnaise object

[granite steppe]

my own,,, mayonnaise

[vernal crest]

Yes I know. I just meant for the "go to ending B" why do we need a switchEvent? Why not just leave ending B inside this original event? So the options are "stay in this event" or "go to another event".

[void aspen]

as a tilesheet "mod"
didnt get this one 💔

[brave fable]

ah i see, no functional reason, just for the sake of breaking things up
you can of course just include the ending B event script in the main event script

[vernal crest]

Presumably you're trying to edit someone else's mayonnaise mod, right? So why is the mayo object you're editing called "AlleyBalley.Largemayoproduct_Large_Mayonnaise"?

[vernal crest]

I am not sure what this means, sorry! Do you mean you didn't understand what I meant?

[void aspen]

yep

[granite steppe]

cause its from another mod. I could very easily fix that one but even the pigeon mayo isn't working

[vernal crest]

Okay so how did you add the tilesheet to your map?

[vernal crest]

Another mod of yours?

[near imp]

Should it be "SMAPI/ciriunalleykitsu.bfavdodos/assets/DodoMayonnaise" or replacing "DodoMayonnaise" with whatever product name?

[granite steppe]

ye

[vernal crest]

If it's your own mod, you should just edit that mod to fix it so you're not using internal asset key. Then you won't have to edit Data/objects in this mod at all.

[void aspen]

I have a mod folder and there I have a subfolder called textures and inside that is my png
Then I added this png as a new tileset via Tiled and that's it
And well I do load it via json too

[vernal crest]

Which pigeon mod is the silvermoonchan one? She has multiple so I want to make sure I am checking the right one.

[granite steppe]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/43365

[vernal crest]

Oh, you should not be using that window ever with tilesheetinator. You need to use the tilesheetinator options otherwise you're not actually using tilesheetinator.

[void aspen]

sorry that you have to answer two ppl at once 😭

[void aspen]

ohh

I mean it doesnt allow me to load a custom one

only vanilla

[vernal crest]

Well since it's Alley's mod, it seems he already had the right object ID.

[lucid iron]

i added the api to 1.1.5 ty.
the other thing i did is to sort hmk controlled kids after non-hmk custom kids in the postfix of FarmHouse.getChildren when little npc is installed. this should mean little npc and hmk will side step each other as much as possible

[vernal crest]

Yes it does, that's what the "manage stardew tilesheet mods" option is

[void aspen]

Oh

[vernal crest]

Thanks, I'll download it to check what silver has done so I can then check yours

[void aspen]

so I did browse and chose my texture folder and then I chose the tileset I needed

weird thingy cuz I didnt do that for the other mod that uses a custom texture 💔

[vernal crest]

She loads some assets and uses internal asset key for others...

[vernal crest]

Is your tilesheet folder inside your map folder?

[vernal crest]

Did you add the Format field to your ArtisanGoods.json just for when it's in the validator website or is it in the actual file too?

[granite steppe]

I added it in the file too

but now smapi is mad about it

[void aspen]

yeah

It was the same for the other mod but I imported the png via Tiled itself

[vernal crest]

Yes, SMAPI would be mad about it because you are only allowed one Format field per mod and it has to be in the content.json. Did you not have it before when you were seeing that the pigeon mayo wasn't working? (Trying to figure out if that's the reason the pigeon mayo isn't working)

[granite steppe]

the json validator wanted it because it thought it was the only file, i have now removed it

[vernal crest]

Ah, then that will be why it worked without using tilesheetinator but unfortunately this means that your load was pointless because the map is using the copy of the sheet that is in the folder, not the one you loaded to the game's content.

[vernal crest]

Okay, so as far as I can tell your pigeon should be working but I might be missing something. Can you do another patch export of data/objects and upload that to the json validator to share it with me? We need to check if your edit is showing up.

[void aspen]

A bit surprising cuz that mod had over 100 DLs and no one noticed that I suppose 😭

[near imp]

I got the dodo mayo replaced 😭

[vernal crest]

The only way someone would notice is if there was a mod that tried to edit the custom tilesheet. It will work just fine until then.

[void aspen]

Oh so its not that bad then

[near imp]

Alley would it be helpful if i sent you the content.json of this one part i got working?

[vernal crest]

And that includes you. If you wanted to do some sort of conditional edit to your custom tilesheet it wouldn't work.

[void aspen]

I see

[near imp]

it might not work the same for those pigeons but idk 🙁 feel like i need to redeem myself somehow for failing to help so badly

[vernal crest]

It's not a failing to not know how to help a situation you haven't encountered before!

[void aspen]

Okay I understand now, thank you so much for helping

[vernal crest]

It's an easy fix: you just edit the map file with a text editor to remove the /tilesheets/ from the image source for the tilesheet. Then it will use the loaded version instead.

[granite steppe]

I declares it cannot find an asset named Large MAyonnaise

[vernal crest]

!log Can you share your log so I can see the exact error, please?

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[near imp]

ugh why is the json validator eating some of my commentary between the lines?

[granite steppe]

https://smapi.io/log/4a1527a7e8944d8599ee38287bd1dbbc

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 66 C# mods and 97 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[granite steppe]

Govnor shhhhh those mods are not the concern

[vernal crest]

It strips comments, it's very annoying

[vernal crest]

Thanks. Hmm, you don't have anything just saying "LargeMayonnaise" in the json you shared with me. Have you changed it?

[granite steppe]

no? I don't know what the field is supposed to be i guess

but the freaking... mayo in question

"AlleyBalley.Largemayoproduct_Large_Mayonnaise": {
"Name": "Large Mayonnaise",
"DisplayName": "Large Mayonnaise",

[near imp]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7c847ba657c24e3e8000d1ecf1154848

content.json for;

1. loading your own mayo texture (preparation)
   2: targeting the Field of the object added by the other mod and replacing the Texture path with the mayo texture you loaded in step 1
   (i hope)

[vernal crest]

Can I ask why you are using internal asset key in your mayo mod? (Also, the Name field should match the entry key so it should be "Name": "AlleyBalley.Largemayoproduct_Large_Mayonnaise",)

[granite steppe]

was like the first mod i ever made and its on Jason Asset and PFM I'd have to convert it to a CP i think?

[vernal crest]

(This is what he already has )

Oh it's a JA mod ok, well that explains that

Ok so your ArtisanGoods.json still looks exactly like this?

[granite steppe]

yes

[vernal crest]

Hmm. CP seems to think you're trying to find one called "Large Mayonnaise" instead

Well, we'll do the patch export anyway still please, it might help

[granite steppe]

right, yes

https://smapi.io/json/none/59f2b94a1d464e1caa1c3aca974816d7

The Dodo mayo and pigeon mayos are working

but the large mayo refuses to cooperate

[void aspen]

oh wow its 5am already and I dont feel tired 😭

time flies when I do things I love ig

[vernal crest]

We'll figure it out. I think it's probably to do with it being a JA mod so the ID is probably different to what we're expecting. I only started modding after 1.6 so I've not had much experience with JA mods.

[granite steppe]

I can change it to CP later im just overwhelmed and glad to have 1 victory

[vernal crest]

(We'll figure it out once the smapi website manages to load the whole file for me lol)