making-mods-general

[ornate drift]

or

[merry river]

I use this and ctrl + f to find what i need

you can if you don't want to clutter your content.json

also here, this has a more thorough explanation: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Gift_Tastes

[ornate drift]

ah ok but like
do i have to make separate jsons for all the tastes or can i combine them into one?

[merry river]

you have to combine them into one, they are one string

you can also add the reaction dialogue to specific items to either gift tastes or dialogue, but focus on figuring out the gift tastes and general responses to them first

[ornate drift]

oh ok!

[opaque field]

My current NPC issue is that Iggy doesn't leave her house and getting 08:11:22 WARN SpaceCore Scheduler could not find route from Saloon to CacklingCaracal.IggyNova_IggysHouse while honoring Gender female
08:11:22 WARN SpaceCore Requested path from Saloon to CacklingCaracal.IggyNova_IggysHouse for Gender Female where no valid path was found, for NPC IggyNova. erros XD

but I imagine I'm doing something weird with her map/warps/etc

Also, for the Kent issues. Caffeine was needed to realize the reason it wasn't working was bc I was updating my desktop copy of the mod

[ornate drift]

    "Changes": 
    [
        {
            "LogName": "Manny Gift Taste Data",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/NPCGiftTastes",
            "Entries":
            {
                "{{ModId}}_Manny": "Oh my god, @! How'd you know this was my favourite? Thanks!/444 112 122 167 403 404 440/Thanks, @! I really like this./248 279 286 287 288 334 335 336 337 338 396 399 787 917 372 428 -12/....Uhh, i mean, i guess i could use it../196 219 225 202 209 tiakall.bass.seabass/....You could've given me ANYTHING else, @. /747/Oh hey, thanks! i appreciate this./446 746 766 -7 -8 -9 -10 -15 -16 item_alcohol/",
                
            }
        },
]
}```

i took this from the wiki and added my npc name onto it

also edited the text as well

would this work?

[merry river]

yeah it usually is but i currently don't remember what it is exactly. can you maybe share a json in which you made the patch? perhaps we can figure it out together

[merry river]

looks solid, give it a try
i also suggest sharing your patches as code by putting three ` at the beginning and the end of the block

[ornate drift]

oh ok! noted

btw i dont use an assets folder

boxs rock base only includes an i18n folder

[merry river]

well technically you don't have to
but as you continue making your NPC, you might notice that your files get quite crowded

yeah I assume the rock npc doesn't have a lot of stuff going on

depending on how complex your npc is you will want to organize your files (or not. up to you haha)

[ornate drift]

ok that didnt work

i should check the content json

[merry river]

(ignore the vscode folder)

just as an example

[ornate drift]

    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/NPCGiftTastes",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModID}}_Manny": "{{i18n:Manny}}//{{i18n:Manny}}//{{i18n:Manny}}//{{i18n:Manny}}//{{i18n:Manny}}//"
    }
    },```

oh

[merry river]

yeah there's no item IDs in there

the i18n keys are also all the same so he will keep saying whatever value is assigned to "Manny"

[opaque field]

Here ith the mapdata for Igs

https://smapi.io/json/none/c21d8a4edb8f434fb7c4c278b3b63b38

[merry river]

ok im gonna grab my coffee and a snack real quick

[ornate drift]

  "Manny": "...Hello there.",
  "Manny.name": "Manny"
  }```

thats the only thing inside the i18n folder

default.json

[opaque field]

yaaassss (topping off my tea)

[merry river]

esca has been typing for so long. i am scared

[royal stump]

(unrelated, @-ing an older post, don't mind me )

[opaque field]

[merry river]

try replacing this with the one you copied. manny will be saying "Hello there" every time you give him something

okay, let me look at cara's map patch

[golden basin]

hey esca!

I have a general question about ftm? hows the rewrite going? 👀

[royal stump]

Console commands are less strict about that; they need to be unique, but just claiming a relatively unique short string may be fine, e.g. how Content Patcher just uses patch with sub-commands for everything. But if you're adding several commands and don't want/know how to merge them, your truncated mod ID is probably fine instead, imo.

GSQs are already more common than console commands, people need to trace then back to their mod from logs/etc more often, and iirc, some code in Pathos's mods assumes you're using the format correctly (if only to improve log messages or some such). It also doesn't save that many characters, and people writing mods should probably copy-paste it either way. I'd stick to the full ID there.

[royal stump]

still almost done with the overall setup, I just need to find time to finish the monster spawn/despawn stuff and write documentation
might be hard to get into beta this month due to some medical stuff in a few weeks, though

(it still needs some more spawn types and new triggers/etc, but that can be added pretty quickly after it's out in beta)

[merry river]

Cara, what you did with your map patch so far is basically to just change the map to add in the changes you made to the appearance. But you haven't added an actual warp so Iggy can't pathfind

[golden basin]

totally understandable!!! just know when you do get it running into beta im here to help >: 3

[verbal narwhal]

thank you for your time and detailed answer!!

[ornate drift]

yay!!!!!!!!!!!!

[opaque field]

ooooooh, okay ❤️ ty

[ornate drift]

now its time to actually set what i want him to love and hate

[golden basin]

I want to hug this bear

can he be my dad

[ornate drift]

i mean i can give you hugs

[golden basin]

thats supposed to be you?

[ornate drift]

Manny is my sona

[golden basin]

gasp

[ornate drift]

speedys just a name i have

online

lol

[opaque field]

I love himb sm

[golden basin]

i love how you look then

[ornate drift]

tyty

[merry river]

i know a gay bear when i see one

[strong holly]

heyy I am just starting to learn about mods, does anybody have any ideas what might be a good first project to try and do? I don't mind if its like the most simple thing just wanna start somewhere 😂

[merry river]

this is gonna be real embarassing if you end up saying youre not gay

[ornate drift]

im gay yeah

[golden basin]

a simple asset replacement or dialogue mod would be a good start

[ornate drift]

to no ones surprise
anyway

[merry river]

!getstarted

[ocean sail]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

To use this command, type !getstarted.

[opaque field]

Personally I started with editing a dialogue of a vanilla npc

[merry river]

no

wrong

[opaque field]

but there's lots of good references for getting started at the link

[ornate drift]

im thinking loves could be:
Survival Burger
Pizza
and anything that has heavy carbs

hate: literally any fish in the game

[opaque field]

mmmmmmm carbs

I love it

[golden basin]

I have a goblin npc that was a raised by maple syrup bear and the crop fairy lol

[strong holly]

tysm all! ❤️

[opaque field]

Cotton my beloved?

[golden basin]

yes!

Which i have bad news but its good news for me because i can focus on his story and not worry about romance........Cotton wont be a dating option in my mod

[merry river]

theres enough romanceable NPCs out there anyway

[opaque field]

100% understand/respect that choice

I will simp respectfully

from appropriate distances

[golden basin]

he also just wouldnt date ppl, besides usagi i feel. who is the first human to treat him kindly

[merry river]

also writing romanceable/roommateable npcs is such a pain

[opaque field]

Valid (how does he feel about like, exotic cats?)

[golden basin]

He loves animals

[merry river]

like caracals? 😆

[opaque field]

yeah, I think Iggy might be one of the few romanceable NPCs in my expansion

[opaque field]

You're onto me!

XD

[golden basin]

Weeeellll you know, when my mod is out i am open to ppl making npc romancable themsevles hehe

[opaque field]

I'm very fascinated by Cotton and your story overall, I'm honestly v happy just bein buds if he's okay with that

[golden basin]

depends on the person but its something im down for and i make all my npcs have blushing portraits too XD

[golden basin]

do you wanna hear the basis of cottons story in my thread?

[opaque field]

yes plz

[carmine stream]

is there an easy way to see which areas on the map would conflict with something else? i'm trying to see how viable it would be to plop something behind 1 willow lane

[golden basin]

youd need to download the mod an plop it there

[lucid iron]

There's no easy way tbh, but you can ask in #modded-stardew

Show people the spot you want to put your thing at

[calm nebula]

Wait for Tia to be around and ask?

[ornate drift]

sooo since i copied the data from gifttastes to content
am i gonna have to edit them both whenever i wanna change the gift tastes?

cause yknow theyre basically linked

[tiny zealot]

tiakall is map use/npcs georg, if anybody knows it's them

[ornate drift]

ah ok

am i gonna have to type in ALL the fish ids if i want Manny to hate every single one of them 😭

cause that would take ages

[tiny zealot]

if you want every fish you can use a category or a context tag

[ornate drift]

is the fish one -4?

[tiny zealot]

yeah i think that's fish, although try it with category_fish first (automatic context tag applied based on category)

it will have the same effect but your code will say "fish" instead of you having to remember what -4 means

[carmine stream]

who is tia?

[tiny zealot]

tiakall, noted mod author and bottomless repository of "what mods/NPCs edit this portion of the map?"

[carmine stream]

gotcha gotcha, thank you

[ornate drift]

i used mussel

ill use an actual fish hold on

done!!!!!!!!!! works

now that gift tastes are done

i should move onto something else

how do i add a house? i dont want my bear to be homeless

[opaque field]

You enter the wonderful world of map-making with Tiled

[ornate drift]

i was looking forward to that step

[opaque field]

excited hand claps

Tiled can be a pan but I genuinely love making maps SO MUCH

[ornate drift]

is that a program i have to download?

[opaque field]

Yes! ( do we have a command for Tiled?)

[ornate drift]

maybe you can be my guide

!tiled

[ocean sail]

If you want to make mods that add or edit maps:

1. Use Tiled to edit .tmx or .tbin files.

2. Refer to the Maps wiki page for details on how maps work in Stardew Valley.

3. Content Patcher allows you to create custom locations through editing Data/Locations

4. Vanilla Maps can be edited via Content Patcher as well: EditMap

To use this command, type !tiled.

[opaque field]

I will do my best

Maps are like onions, they are very dependant on layers (and sometimes they make me cry)

[ornate drift]

ok so i downloaded tiled

whats next?

[opaque field]

!maps

whoops okay

[ornate drift]

oh GOD 😭

now im scared

[opaque field]

Okay I know it looks super intimidating

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[ornate drift]

is there a "but"????????????

[opaque field]

yes, but thankfully it's not as insane as it feels

okay so, the layers are super important notable back, building, front, and paths

these break down how the player and npcs interact with the things in your map

A maybe less overwhelming examble would be Elliott or Leah's cabin :3

[ornate drift]

which layers do the houses use?

[opaque field]

buildings that are placed on maps use building so the player can walk behind and in front but not 'on them' like grass

(if anyone more experienced with maps wants to chime in please do)

[severe quail]

Hi 👋

[brittle pasture]

but the human will is strong

[ornate drift]

would it be better to place the house in a completely separate location that isnt in town?

town is already pretty crowded

maybe i can add it in cindersap forest

[brittle pasture]

forest's also pretty crowded lol

[severe quail]

Best site to upload sdv mods ?

[ornate drift]

:(

[brittle pasture]

there's at least 3 mods fighting over the top left corner alone

[ornate drift]

do most people just use a teleporter?

[brittle pasture]

probably also the best sites ppl are downloading from (Nexus)

[opaque field]

Teleporting or there's the Central Station Mod

[severe quail]

Ok

[ornate drift]

idk i feel like it doesnt feel...authentic? like not natural

[brittle pasture]

if your mod is C# I also request that you make it open source and put it on GitHub

[opaque field]

ooh okay so for Iggy I put her in the forest with a sliding glass door built into the wall by the wizard's house

[ornate drift]

i want it to be part of the main game that isnt separate

[brittle pasture]

you don't have to but it's a net positive for the community, and yourself if there are issues that arise

[ornate drift]

also if i wanna edit a map should i copy the tmx into my manny npc folder

for that specific map

[brittle pasture]

but I will add that you should just do what you want first and worry about compat later

[opaque field]

^^also this

[ornate drift]

maybe this is a good spot

[tiny zealot]

this. there's basically no spot you can choose that won't collide with something, so don't worry about it yet

[royal stump]

⬆️
incidentally, SVE alters the left section of that, and the base game uses that dirt for spring onions, fwiw

[ornate drift]

oh 😭

[royal stump]

quite possibly a few other mods too, base game maps aren't really big enough to claim w/o compat issues

not a deal-breaker either though, you can do "if [mod] is installed then use this other edit", etc

[lucid iron]

Pelican real estate

My rec is to pick some innocuous spot to add a warp to your NPC's house

[tiny zealot]

i think the real estate market is the real thing modders fear about tiled

[ornate drift]

wait @opaque field spring onions spawn on the right

i guess i have no choice but to make a teleporter then

[royal stump]

the exact onion logic is a little odd, but iirc you can technically avoid it
but yeah, using new maps or just having your NPC show up in town tends to be simpler

[tawny swallow]

I love him he is awesome

[fickle lichen]

genuine question for the people who know about stardewmodsmithy; when you create a new piece of furniture and put a price to it, is it sold in robin's house?

[lucid iron]

No it doesn't do that automatically

[brittle pasture]

it should appear in the furniture catalogue, but I believe Robin herself only sells furniture in a vanilla range by default

[fickle lichen]

hm, how does it work then? what i mean is like, if you wanted to buy it, where would you get it?

[brittle pasture]

the catalogue as mentioned

[fickle lichen]

oh, i see

i asked this in the official page for smithy in nexusmods because i wanted to make sure lol

now i'll wait for a response!

[brittle pasture]

fyi chue is the author of smithy

[merry river]

but the author of mod smithy has already replied to you here

[lucid iron]

When you don't exclude from random sale then they appear in the vanilla furniture catalogue, you also have the ability to say a furniture is catalogue for the mod you be working on

[fickle lichen]

WAIT WHAT?

oh my god i'm so sorry

😭

i feel embarrassed now lmao 😭😭

[fickle lichen]

okay, thank you for replying!

i'll delete the question i left in your page then

i'm sorry 😭

damn i can't delete it

💔

[merry river]

sorry for bumping this again, but maybe someone's online now who could help me figure it out?

[lucid iron]

Dw about it

[lucid iron]

Your problem sounds like ordering issues

Do you have machine control panel installed

[merry river]

I have, I just didn't think of using it for debugging

[lucid iron]

Yeah u can check what game thinks the rule orders are

The rules page is ordered left to right up to down

[merry river]

alright, let me take a look

[brittle pasture]

your format for fuel is wrong

AdditionalConsumedItems is a machine-level field for fuels that apply to every recipe

you need EMC if you want fuels that only apply to one recipe

[merry river]

Ahh, okay, so I do need EMC! Will look into it then

although it does seem to work just fine for my preserves jar, I think? which is weird

[brittle pasture]

it most assuredly doesnt

try testing again

[merry river]

on it, boss

[brittle pasture]

also note that with how your code's currently set up if you dont have the mailflag you'll get wine in the keg when you put your melon in

up to you whether that's intended

[merry river]

it's supposed to be like that, yeah, unless I misunderstood the way it works

[merry river]

@brittle pasture https://smapi.io/json/none/2c2710978c3d4efb8266301e00bf2af4 would that be correct? I am not quite sure if it's mandatory to add EMC's context tags field in my case

[brittle pasture]

that looks fine, feel free to verify with testing + lookup anything/mcp

[merry river]

Yup, that worked like a charm! Thank you

[ornate drift]

alrighty

warping time!!

where do i start

[west thunder]

You know how with the generic config mod you can either have your config options be selected via checkbox or a dropdown list of sorts?

How do I do the latter?

How does that work?

I want a person to choose between several different retextures of a Vanilla sprite, one of the options being said Vanilla sprite.

[fossil tree]

Does anyone know where i could look for people that do mod commissions? looked everywhere but not trying to get scammed lol

[urban patrol]

true/false will be a checkbox, and allowed values will be a drop down

[urban patrol]

!comms

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !comms.

[fossil tree]

thanks!

[west thunder]

Is there an example I could take a peek at?

[urban patrol]

welp i was gonna link you my content.json but it appears github is down

[west thunder]

https://smapi.io/json

Maybe this'd work?

[urban patrol]

but content patcher docs should have examples

[urban patrol]

i'm on mobile

[west thunder]

Yikes forever.

Alright, I'll go look through the docs.

If I could find them anyway.

Thanks, bestie!!!

[urban patrol]

    "Cat_King_Appearance": {
            "AllowValues": "Orange, Black",
            "Default": "Black",
        },
        "Festival_Map_Edits": {
            "AllowValues": "true, false",
            "Default": "true",
            "Section": "Map Patches",
            "Description": "Overlay map patches during festivals.",
        },

finally loaded

a drop down and a checkbox

[whole raptor]

... that's rare

Also why a unicorn?

[urban patrol]

an angry one at that

[jade abyss]

Hi i was wondering if people can help me please
I am new to modding never done it before but i really want to give it a go can someone point me in the right direction on where to star/learn I have a windows computer 🙂 Thank you in advance I am very excited to learn

[jaunty shuttle]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[urban patrol]

do you have a particular idea? we may be able to recommend more specific resources if so

[jaunty shuttle]

[jade abyss]

thank you 🙂 and not really not right now just want to start with something basic like a colour change and move up from there 🙂

[urban patrol]

good luck!

[whole raptor]

Most things can be done using only jsons through Content Patcher or other frameworks, so it's really easy to learn

[jade abyss]

Thank you i was so nervous to ask haha!! glad i messaged now thank all so much 🙂

[sullen rain]

Hiya guys. Can someone ELI5 how I'd get two mods giving me this error to play nice?

two content packs want to load the 'data/events/blacksmith' asset with the 'exclusive' priority

I'm trying to get March and Lucikiel to work together

[mellow laurel]

could one be set to low priority?

[whole raptor]

Or use editData instead of Load

[sullen rain]

Oh lemme try that

[whole raptor]

Lower priority might not really work if the other mod is loading a whole file tho

[sullen rain]

The funny thing is I looked at Lucikiel's code and he doesn't actually have anything in that asset

It's a blank json

[whole raptor]

Yeah, but there's probably another patch that edits the event in

[sullen rain]

Mm true

[whole raptor]

It' better to first load a blank

[sullen rain]

[Content Patcher] Ignored March - Fields of Mistria Revived > EventAdd: the FromFile field can't be used with an 'EditData' patch.

[whole raptor]

The best way would probably be for you to just edit the event in and load a blank first if Lucikiel is not installed?

[ornate locust]

If they're both blanks, I think you're just supposed to set one to "low" priority and it'll work out

[whole raptor]

FromFile is only for loads and includes

[sullen rain]

How would I set priority?

Sorry if that's a noob question

[ornate locust]

"Priority": "Low"
one of these

[whole raptor]

Oh btw Midnight, I might release the new version of Enchanted Ceremony with appendable guest lists (and some other stuff) today or tomorrow

[ornate locust]

Woo, alright

[whole raptor]

I also stretched the benches a bit so each fits 4 people now

Here's the current seating plan

[ornate locust]

the place is getting set up and Ras is like "what do you MEAN this many people want to attend???", confuse to realized he actually has friends

[sullen rain]

Yay I think the priority thing worked

Thanks guys ❤️

[whole raptor]

Yep... still no clue how it happened

Now that I think about... he interacts with more of their guests at the wedding, than most vanilla characters

[winged finch]

Is there a way to make a color picker for myself? I imagine it like as a separate tab in the tab-menu with three sliders and such, or maybe a popup window the same way?

[whole raptor]

Like I don't think Seb ever interacted with Marnie or Caroline

[winged finch]

Also, how old is SV? Afaik it's based on XNA but it seems so old that I have a genuine hard time finding sources in how I can do anything in the engine itself

[calm nebula]

In cp?

[calm nebula]

Monogame

[winged finch]

Oh

That makes much more sense

[whole raptor]

Almost exactly 10 years

[winged finch]

Guess it just builds on XNA or sth

[calm nebula]

Iirc Jamie (ManInBlack) has a color picker for GMCM

[winged finch]

HMMMMMM is it open source? I would like to inspect it

totally not steal it 1:1

[verbal narwhal]

just out of curiosity, has someone made experiences with allowing for default config settings and then per savefile (tied to farmers, but stored in global moddata) gmcm-displayable "config moddata" options? ||i sincerely hope this is understandable and doesnt read like im having a stroke||

[calm nebula]

You can literally also just use it as a dependency tbh

I'm too lazy to bother to make my own color picker, I've always just used his

[winged finch]

I'm kinda not but kinda am

I almost just made a reference to the mod with a wpf app

but decided not to do it because there is no way I'm touching that again if I don't have to

I kinda thinking about somehow referencing monogame and trying to make a floating window for the picker

[calm nebula]

Gmcmoptions is the mod name

[winged finch]

Thanks

I'll check it out ~~ and probably steal code from it~~ ❤️

Okay he has a whole ahh color picker

I should probably just reference it

But I also only making the mod to get to know how to do stuff so I might just do it from scrath

bruh

was not expecting bit shifting

I realized I don't understand anything, then I realized again I basically already did similar things to this with drawing random rectangles on the map

[stark ocean]

hey y'all, i am attempting to figure out how to get a letter string to show up correctly in-game. i have everything formatted correctly in Tiled itself, but i am unsure if the way i typed it in my content.json is correct or not (probabl not). i made a separate StringsFromMaps.json file and i have included a load section for it in my content.json, as shown in my attachments. if anyone has a fix please lmk

[winged finch]

fascinating

[calm nebula]

Yeah, he basically draws every pixel individually

Vs one of the chest mods which makes a texture with a gradient dynamically

[winged finch]

Tbf I think this was the mod I stole the drawing from like

years ago

[calm nebula]

(Make sure to check out his license)

I forget who in the community likes copyleft but I think he is one

[winged finch]

I don't really undestand why he made the flags those specific binary numbers tho, afaik C# should just generate it successfully from enum with the [Flags] thing, but never really looked into it

[winged finch]

License?

the copyright?

he just uses his name

lol

oh no

nvm

a simple BSD 3-clause license

[uncut viper]

(If he had just used his name, you wouldn't have been permitted to use the code in the first place anyway)

[winged finch]

In the code there is a copyright with his name, and also in the BSD license.

I have no idea how licensing works

[brittle pasture]

1. your letter is trying to read from Strings/StringsFromMaps but you're loading into Data/StringsFromMaps
2. you should use an asset name that's more unique than Data/StringsFromMaps if you're loading into a new asset; otherwise you should edit Strings/StringsFromMaps (do not load it, as it's an existing game asset)

[winged finch]

I haven't wrote anything ever that worth licensing 🥹

[uncut viper]

As long as you follow the license terms, you're fine. If there had not been a license, then the default is all rights reserved, ergo no permission to use it.

[winged finch]

Yeah

looks like if I copy his work I have to place his copyright notice there

Not sure how it actually works tho

what if someone just copies a method but uses it for something else, or just uses it as kind of a guide

[uncut viper]

If they wrote it, and you are using it, you follow their license

(Obligatory "I am not a lawyer" disclaimer)

[winged finch]

Yeah

[stark ocean]

so i should change the target to say "Strings/StringsFromMaps"? and, if that is correct, should the action line be changed from "Load" to "EditData"?

[winged finch]

Well it's not important tbf

Not planning on using his work

[brittle pasture]

you change the action yes, but also the fields (EditData takes an Entries dict of edits you want to apply, not a file to load from)

[winged finch]

He basically used the draw functions and some Controls that are already in.... wherever... I guess monogame but not sure

like IconButtons and Rectangle and such

I kinda hated these always, it's like using ImGUI, but you never actually see how it works

[hollow root]

ive finished most of the CTs besides adding my own, any other mods have CTs that i should add lines for?

i will add ones for pei ming and honeyfuggle

[orchid acorn]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Conversation_Topics:_List_of_CTs here's a whole list :]

[hollow root]

Oh sweet!

[uncut viper]

So many CTs without a mod id prefix...

[dusk mulch]

i was working so hard on my mod then i found another game and cant work on my mod now

the cycle repeats

[merry river]

Oh hey good thing I just finished adding the CTs for my idiot NPC

[stark ocean]

i've updated it now to this. i am assuming i need to input something different(?), since smapi gave me the second message upon running a test^ (apologies for my slowness, i'm very much still learning haha)

[winged finch]

I feel you, my general cycle is:

• Finding a game
• playing it
• (playing it with friends,)
• getting a bit bored of it
• writing some ahh mod just because I can (it does basically nothing) or installing bepinex and just going wild with my nonexistent gamehacking knowledge
• ditching the game
• repeat

that's usually withing a month or so

[hollow root]

are mine supposed to have that or do you mine the wiki list?

[uncut viper]

All modded CTs should ideally begin with a ModId prefix.

[calm nebula]

Can we interest u in that machine game #programmers-off-topic has been playing lol

[opaque field]

It will be mine soon oh I cannot wait it's so hypnotizing

ok back to fishstick and cream cheese logic

[uncut viper]

(I realized I think I slightly misunderstood what you asked so I'm ping replying just to make sure you see it and don't mess up your jsons on account of me)
All modded CTs should ideally begin with a ModId prefix, however that is up for the person who made the CT to decide. If they decided not to put the ModId in their CT, then if you are trying to use them, don't add it! You must match what they put exactly. So your json is fine, it was the wiki list I was referring to.

[hollow root]

Ty!!

[feral dagger]

I get “unknown error” when I try to login to the Stardew Valley wiki. I haven’t logged in since ConcernedApe took over the wiki. Does transferring accounts from the old wiki still work?

[brittle pasture]

(was afk)
reference this page for what an EditData patch looks like: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md

and see this example: #making-mods-general message

[opaque field]

https://smapi.io/json/none/025b2a7759a445c3a83180a519bd7684 my cute little cream cheese churn animation doesn't play at the moment

[brittle pasture]

try creating a new account with that username to see if it's taken?

[feral dagger]

It’s taken.

[brittle pasture]

try setting workeffects chance to 1

by default an effect only has a 1/3 chance to run every 10 min

may be weird with temp sprites though idk

[opaque field]

ooooh, okay I'll try that thank you 😄

[brittle pasture]

hmm then my best bet is try resetting passwords? i forgot if the wiki admin is around this server or if they're responsive to pings

[calm nebula]

Hey margotbean

[winged finch]

off-topic but what exactly can you do with an account? Just editing the wiki?

[feral dagger]

I think so

[calm nebula]

It grants you riches beyond measure

Or maybe just headaches

(No it just let's u update the wiki)

[unborn shadow]

Hello! Does anyone know why SMAPI might fail to read NPC schedules without throwing an error? Here's what I've found so far:
I used patch export and patch summary and found that they are successfully loaded but not applied. and the exported json is empty. (Strangely, the summary shows that the dispositions and dialogues are not applied either, but the exported files are normal, unlike the schedules)
I used a blank load and include in content.json for the NPCs' schedules, is there anythins that I missed?
Here is my smapi log:
https://smapi.io/log/56320cf03158437d857c93d4c8e70898

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 16 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[brittle pasture]

can you post your code? also have you gone to sleep at least once

[whole raptor]

Also note that you need to sleep before any changes to the schedules are applied iirc (nvm, didn't notice Selph mentioned it 😅 )

[unborn shadow]

Yes I sleep in a new save but they still won't move, I also used look up anything and it's shown that they have no schedules🥲

[unborn shadow]

the code about the schedules is here:
{
"LogName":"blanks",
"Action":"Load",
"Target":"Characters/Dialogue/{{ModID}}_Gladiia, Characters/Dialogue/{{ModID}}_Ulpianus, Data/Events/{{ModID}}_UGHouse, Data/Events/{{ModID}}_UGOutdoors, Characters/schedules/{{ModID}}_Ulpianus, Characters/schedules/{{ModID}}_Gladiia",
"FromFile":"assets/blank.json",
"Priority":"Low"

},{
"LogName": "schedules Include",
"Action": "Include",
"FromFile": "assets/Data/schedules/UlpianusSchedule.json, assets/Data/schedules/GladiiaSchedule.json"
},
{
"Changes":[
{"Action": "EditData",
"Target":"Characters/schedules/Ulpianus",
"Entries":{
"Mon": "610 mintlemonsoda.UGSV_UGOutdoors 20 7 0/1000 mintlemonsoda.UGSV_UGOutdoors 11 8 2/1400 Beach 54 21 2/1700 Town 73 90 1/1900 mintlemonsoda.UGSV_UGOutdoors 9 9 2/2000 mintlemonsoda.UGSV_UGHouse 20 7 0/2330 mintlemonsoda.UGSV_UGHouse 12 4 sleep",
"Tue":"GOTO Mon",
"Wed":"610 Town 85 102 2/1100 Mountain 57 35 1/1800 Beach 36 20 2",
"Thu":"GOTO Mon",
"Fri":"GOTO Wed",
"Sat":"GOTO Mon",
"Sun":"GOTO Mon"}
}
]

}
(the same format for the other NPC)

[brittle pasture]

!json can you post the full code on the site, it's more viewable than discord

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[unborn shadow]

yes ofc https://smapi.io/json/none/cdf80fb92ffa446c965bbaab43cc669a

[brittle pasture]

your target in the patch that edits the schedule is missing the modid

[unborn shadow]

Ah ok, can I use the {{ModID}} or it has to be the full ID?

[brittle pasture]

sure ModId is fine

[unborn shadow]

alright I'll test it again now

OHH it works! Tyvm!!🥹

[opaque field]

for topic memory can you do key_memory_fourdays or does it only support the available formats?

[uncut viper]

The memories only use predefined formats, not arbitrary lengths of time.

[stark ocean]

back again with a new problem WOO !! i am having issues with my NPC's schedule not loading in. he spawns in his bed, which is great, but he does not have his sleeping sprite, just the left facing one that i set for his home spawn point. i've combed through the smapi error log but found nothing regarding the character schedule being loaded in (link to log: https://smapi.io/log/c9f8dd1ce13c4ab1af5a3e57694f632b). i've been playing around with the schedule.json, removing animations, amongst other things, in case those were the issue. i've attached both the schedule block from the content.json and a screenshot from the schedule itself. any advice is appreciated. i am new to this kind of thing, so feel free to dumb it down for me, hehe...

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 18 C# mods and 5 content packs.

[brave fable]

you can also get a talk: page 🥳 this is of little use to anyone

[hallow prism]

i suggest using either patch export or a mod like lookup anything to check if schedule is properly added, and ensure you sleep a day so schedule kicks in

[verbal narwhal]

How do you modding veterans handle incompatibilities with your mod? Logging “not compatible with XY” after checking if it’s loaded and then disabling your mod? Or just a note on your mod page?

[latent mauve]

It's worth noting that even in vanilla, the sleep animation only shows up at the end of the day, not first thing in the morning when they spawn in.

[uncut viper]

I make it compatible if at all possible. If not at all possible, I just stop caring and dw about it.

[lucid iron]

I wait for people to tell me about incompatibility and then decide if the degree of crime required is worthwhile

[uncut viper]

Granted though, a lot of my mods are frameworks where compatibility is both less of a concern and also more of an importance to ensure

[latent mauve]

A note on your mod page if you can't/don't care to add compatibility is all that can be reasonably expected, but expect that most users still won't read it.

[lucid iron]

Also if it's like, a mod i personally use, then ofc I'll do something

But if i don't use it then i don't care as much

[verbal narwhal]

Mhmm. I’ve made my mod compatible with all of not most other pregnancy related mods but surprise pregnancy just conflicts on a fundamental level (removing the question event I patch) so that won’t work but my mod can be configured to basically include its functionality as well

[uncut viper]

Sounds good enough to me

[lucid iron]

Yeah I think that's also a good way to go about it

Just eat the other mod

[uncut viper]

In a license respecting way

[verbal narwhal]

I’ve just released a beta version of it! And I think it might’ve become too big and overwhelming

Oh yes I did respect licenses! Also I took a different approach, you can manually configure if pregnancies can occur for a farmer and whether questions will be shown

[brittle pasture]

if the other mod is a closed source C# mod then I have an excuse to wash my hands of it
otherwise I usually try

[uncut viper]

(I still personally try even if it is closed source but that's for aforementioned reasons)

[verbal narwhal]

And I think I’ve achieved per save file configs displayed with gmcm!! To optionally override your default config settings of the mod

[uncut viper]

Also I think if a user installs a mod called "Surprise Pregnancy" as well as a mod called "Pregnancy Odds" they aren't in a position to expect 100% perfect compatibility anyway

[verbal narwhal]

That’s a fair point^^ I was asked though to make it compatible, but I guess I’ll just include the same solution in the basic version as well, optionally hiding the questions

[uncut viper]

The most important thing to remember re: compatibility is that users can and will ask for anything they want and you can always say no completely justifiably

[verbal narwhal]

Yeah that in general is a good lesson to learn! Saying no is ok

[upper orchid]

Hellow, i have a quick question
what would be the easiest method to reinstall the Console Commands folder if it was deleted by accident?

[lucid iron]

You can install SMAPI again

[upper orchid]

perfect, thank you!

[charred plank]

when you're using harmony to override a class method, how do you get the reference that you're checking?
for example, if i apply a postfix to Farmer.takeDamage, how do i work out which farmer took the damage?
original method below

{
    /...
    lots of code
    .../
}```

my basic method

{
    try
    {
        ActionNPCEventArgs args = new ActionNPCEventArgs();
        DamageTaken?.Invoke(null, args);
    }
    catch (Exception e)
    {
        ModFunctions.Log($"Failed in {nameof(takeDamage)}:\n{e}", LogLevel.Error);
    }
}```

[lucid iron]

Are you using harmony

[charred plank]

DamageTaken is an event i'm raising

yep

not much experience with it

[lucid iron]

You can access this with __instance

[charred plank]

so i include __instance as a new paramenter?

[lucid iron]

https://harmony.pardeike.net/articles/patching-injections.html

[charred plank]

that explains why i did it on the other method i haven't touched in 2 years.
thanks!

[lucid iron]

Although i wonder if u even need to harmony patch here

Is health a netfield?

[charred plank]

i'm trying to interrupt the farmer passing out for some instances (think scripted combat loss that doesn't result in gameover type thing)
i don't know much about netfields so i'll look into those

[royal stump]

(NetIntDelta rather than the usual kind, but yeah)

derived from the same base as NetInt, so it probably has the on-change events

[lucid iron]

Then if u want u can abuse the netcode events to detect changes, i dunno if it happens early enough for ur usecase though

It is also possible to change the wake up location with data

That's a whole thing in location context

[charred plank]

that sounds useful. my issue is i want to prevent the passout event

[lucid mulch]

you can have a higher priority passout event that does different event behaviour

the losing of items is a specific command inside the stock passout events, a custom passout event doesn't need to call it

[lucid iron]

Yeah dw I am just bringing up related logic in case your problem has another solution

[charred plank]

these are all very useful

[lucid iron]

I do like working within vanilla systems when possible

[charred plank]

i'd also like to avoid harmony. people rarely run a small number of mods so the fewer conflicts the better

[lucid iron]

Eh every method has potential for conflict

[uncut viper]

fwiw harmony does not automatically mean conflict

[lucid iron]

It's about how you use the tools

[uncut viper]

postfixes are exceptionally compatible for instance

[charred plank]

is there a global location for passoutevents? i see a netEvent0 in the farmer class

[lucid iron]

The event in passoutevent means the actual cutscene you get

Like waking up at harvey's clinic

[lucid mulch]

ah I'm confusing passout with revive

[charred plank]

i don't think that's what i'm looking for then

[lucid mulch]

but both are influenced by Data/LocationContexts and in turn run standard events

[charred plank]

i'm going to have to do some digging to find out how to construct a passoutevent and then where to add it to

[lucid mulch]

the passout is for Exhasution (run out of stamina) or 2am and LocationContextData.PassOutLocations controls what location you will wake up at the next day.

Revive is for dying (0hp) and controls where you will respawn at and then play the PlayerKilled event in that location

its otherwise a perfectly normal event than any other event, other than the lack of preconditions or trailing /

if the location has no playerkilled event then you just wake up immediately and no items/gold are lost

[charred plank]

revive makes more sense then. i was getting those mixed up. i want it to be when health would drop below 0, but instead of passing out i get to handle it myself (dialogue etc)

if that's the case then i was REALLY overthinking it. so i can just overwrite the passout event with my own to get it to run? (obviously i don't want to permanently remove the original event

[lucid iron]

Do u need it only for particular location

[charred plank]

kind of? i'll need a single event for more than one location. i can do a specific event for different floors in the mine or desert mine, so each event would only be in one location, but i'd have more than one event total

[weak anchor]

Hi all! I'm looking into making a new NPC (Not replacing one) in stardew valley. I've never made a mod before and I dont mind if they dont have cutscenes or be marryable, I just want them walking around town or whatever is simplest

Is there any documentation on how to do that

[uncut viper]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[weak anchor]

ty

[uncut viper]

The first bullet point has an excellent guide, and you'll also need to learn Content Patcher's documentation

[weak anchor]

I dont mind that

[uncut viper]

!startmodding This command should have resources for that in the first bullet point

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[near breach]

Does anyone know which file this dialogue is stored in? This is post-marriage Sebastian when you talk to him on the beach, on days where he takes a walk outside the farmhouse. It's not in MarriageDialogueSebastian, I have tried to search in Characters/MarriageDialogue, Strings/StringsFromCSFiles, Data/Beach, and Data/ExtraDialogue but couldn't find it. I'm quite interested because it's a location dialogue

[uncut viper]

Strings/schedules/Sebastian

[near breach]

God I'm crying thank you so much

Do you just remember that off the top of your head because of the way the dialogues are handled or is there any specific tool to look it up

[uncut viper]

I just assumed where it was likely to be and then went and checked. But you can use Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code to search entire folders (and all their subfolders) for things like this too

(And probably many other text editors but those 2 specifically are often recommended here)

[near breach]

Ohh okay thank you!

[shut edge]

anyone know stuff about currency items

i was wondering if you can have an item that is like a regular vanilla item and also a currency at the same time, if that makes any sense

like could you have an amount of $clay that's the same as the amount of clay you are carrying

was considering making an item-heavy situation into currencies so it would just be a bag in your inventory and not take up slots

[brave fable]

i don't believe there's support for that? and if it's the same as the clay you're carrying, why not just use that clay you're carrying as a shop currency

[shut edge]

hm

[brave fable]

unless i'm misunderstanding haha

[shut edge]

that works for shopping at least yeah

i'm ot explaining it well

sec

so basically i would like to eventually have something that clones the alchemy from secret of evermore

there's close to 2 dozen alchemy ingredients in that , so they just store to a bag

some of those ingredients have overlap with vanilla, like clay and iron etc

maybe something like resource storage would be ideal i dunno

item-heavy magic system essentially

[ornate locust]

angry Nexus kicking and finally it lets me correct my "forgot to update manifest"

[shut edge]

hmm maybe resource storage actually would do this already?

or something close to it

well just an idea for the moment anyway

[lucid iron]

unlockable bundles has that feature sorta

you can have items stash to the wallet as "currency"

but it means you can never take the item out ever

[shut edge]

yeah

wildflour uses that i think?

well if i get serious about the idea later i'll look into comissioning some C#

[balmy valve]

Hi. CAZ is now i18n compatible. Is there a specific part of the i18n key that I have to replace with the Random key for random dialogue, or can I just slap it on the end?

[rose cliff]

Hi all. I have an inspiration for a mod. It would be my first and probably is way too ambitious, but… the idea is The Farmer Who Planted Trees. Basically, your farm, the ten, the forest, the mountains is all like the area at the beginning of The Man Who Planted Trees: “The trek began on barren moors twelve or thirteen hundred meters above sea level through land that was bleak and monotonous. Nothing grew there but wild lavender. My route led across the region at its widest point, and after hiking for three days, I found myself in a wasteland desolate beyond description.” I wrote an expanded description of what I want to do on Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValleyMods/s/P2fdA9nH1P), but basically, the farmer arrives, Lewis welcomes them (no Robin) but bemusedly. Your land has autumn brown grass, debris, weeds, and that’s it. Dry creek beds, wells, and cisterns where there should be water. No trees. No wildlife. You start with your tools and 100 acorns and you need to make all of Stardew Valley verdant again.

Most of the houses in town are ruins eaten up by brambles. You have Lewis, Pam & Penny, the Mullners, the museum, and Willie and Elliot. That’s it. There’s a blank space where Joja Mart would be. (A Joja run is possible for this mod, but unlikely, considering Morris won’t be there for quite a while.)

Is this even possible?

[balmy valve]

whoa that sounds...ambitious

[urban patrol]

anything is possible with enough time, determination, and C#. that sounds like a big project but you could do it if you kept at it. do you want some resources for how to begin modding?

[rose cliff]

I’d have VMV as a dependency so I can have birch trees, and Stone Buildings Mod just because you don’t have the spare wood.

Yes, please.

[urban patrol]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[balmy valve]

wait this is your first mod?

dear yoba, i hope you're a programmer

[urban patrol]

the wiki is going to be your best resource

do you know C#?

[lucid mulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/16750 does kinda fit that vibe (though is entirely constrained to being a custom farm and wont touch the rest of the game)

[rose cliff]

Yes. I took programming in college (early 90s).

[uncut viper]

That all sounds like it could theoretically be done with just Content Patcher and maybe a framework or two. Theoretically and painfully.

[rose cliff]

The “yes” was to, “is this your first mod?” I don’t know C# yet.

[urban patrol]

!yellowbook

[ocean sail]

A good book for learning c# is https://www.robmiles.com/c-yellow-book

To use this command, type !yellowbook.

[urban patrol]

there are also video tutorials linked on the wiki

[lucid mulch]

I feel like a mix of CP and unlockable bundles could get a good amount of it done, though some care would need to be done on the event someone loads an existing save

[uncut viper]

UB was what I was thinking too

[rose cliff]

I’m thinking I should probably cut my teeth on something smaller, but this is a project I’d really like to try.

Is there a way to have an event linked to fifteen fully grown trees existing on your farm?

[uncut viper]

Not as far as I know without C#

[rose cliff]

I think this would break an existing save.

[urban patrol]

i think it's very valid if you were to instruct people to only install it on a new save tbh

and if they come to you with bugs, tough

[rose cliff]

I can’t even think of how the logic would work for lovely green Pelican Town suddenly becoming a barren wasteland.

[urban patrol]

you could probably just retexture the plants and delete all bushes/trees from spawning

[lucid mulch]

working out where to put all the other vanilla NPCs that shouldn't exist yet is the bigger thing for me.

its relatively easy for a new save scenario to just add conditions so they don't spawn (outside of maybe robin) but an existing save doesn't have that option

[uncut viper]

I was thinking you'd just null them out of Data/Characters

[rose cliff]

My other mod idea is just a small farm on the road between the bus stop and the desert, with a self insert (more or less) character living there.

[urban patrol]

that's definitely doable with just content patcher, and there are tutorials for how to make an NPC and how to edit/add maps

[rose cliff]

I’d initially wanted to put said character in East Scarp, but the house I wanted to use disappeared a few updates ago.

The hardest part of that one is paying someone to create art for me.

[urban patrol]

east scarp is pretty popular, but i think in general (if popularity is something you worry about) standalone NPCs do better than those that require expansions

there's also the permissions issue whenever you deal with someone else's mod

[rose cliff]

The appeal on putting it in East Scarp is just that I like it and I want to live there. 😄 And, like I said, there was a house I liked and wanted to move into, but it’s gone now, so I’m thinking small farm instead.

[urban patrol]

do you want information on people who take pixel art commissions? and/or resources for how to learn how to make pixel art?

[devout otter]

Gone as in the location is used by someone else?

[rose cliff]

Inside info on people who not only make art but might be available? I think some of my favorite artists might be a bit busy.

Dolphin - gone as in removed from the map. It was an abandoned building, but now it’s not there anymore.

[urban patrol]

i'm pretty sure the wiki page for commissions indicates whether an artist is currently accepting commissions or not let me see

hmm never mind it doesn't

[rose cliff]

And as far as commissions go, I’d love to commission 1. a mod to make a sixtyish year old Rasmodia, and 2. one to make Elliot look like Christian Kane.

[devout otter]

Oh, abandoned building is never really up for grabs. That usually means it's a placeholder of an already planned NPC. If it's now gone, that means said NPC is not going there anymore. If you want to put your characater in East Scarp, you just pick an empty location and ask if it's available.

[rose cliff]

Ah, OK. Thanks, I didn’t know that.

[devout otter]

(So you create your own house, basically.)

[rose cliff]

Which would be easier than creating an entire farm.

[devout otter]

Theoretically if they put their name there then they should be available. But yeah people may forgot to update that.

[fickle thicket]

Does anyone know if we can create custom NPCs with CP bigger than the usual human size

[devout otter]

Yes with an additional framework like PoohCore.

[fickle thicket]

Awesome thank you!

[dusk mulch]

how did you describe me so well

[merry river]

I also don't think East Scarp has open permissions, right? Unless it's a personal edit, you'll have to ask for permission

Oh wait I think Nic already explained it

[pastel sonnet]

Hey @winged finch, I made something similar years back but I haven't supported it in a long time. Lmk if you have any questions I'd be happy to tell you what I figured out. https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8167

[merry river]

woah didnt know uncle iroh was part of the modding community

[devout otter]

He even catalogs tea https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/22376

[fossil osprey]

Suddenly got an idea for a standalone NPC, but uh
I'm in a "sadistic author" mood rn, and I don't think the storyline I'm imagining is very... nice? a good idea?

[hard fern]

[fossil osprey]

No trauma, no drama, just intense suffering for the player (spoiler: after writing out my ideas, I realise I kind of lied here. Kind of)

Which is why it's probably not a good idea

[fossil osprey]

Ok because I need to get it out of my head
Spoiler for potentially triggering subjects

||My idea is a busker NPC who's not living in Pelican town, they commute there once or twice a week to play music in different places of town (the other days they basically go to neighbouring towns). There are somewhat "chased by death", which means they have had many close call with death - they just call it bad luck.||
||All events would be either talking about music, or escaping yet another tragic death - think almost falling from a cliff, that kind of thing - where the farmer is systematically preventing the accident. Anytime that happen, they don't seem too fazed out by it, as if they were chill with the idea.||
||While they would be romanceable by default, their 8-hearts events would give you the explicit choice of pursuing them romantically or staying as friends. If you stay friends, they go home, but get into a bus accident. While they don't die (I very much force myself to steer away from that), they end up paraplegic and can't visit the valley anymore. They send a few letters for a season or two, then you don't hear about them anymore, and other NPC comment on how it's been a while since they last saw the busker. Their conclusion is very voluntarily open to interpretation.||
||If you do choose to let the romance door open, they stay with you longer that day before going home, so they don't get into that accident. Life continues as usual, but once you reach 10 hearts, they disappear for a season. When they come back, you realise they are missing an arm : they got into an accident, and are now unable to play music anymore. While they were "ok" with the concept of dying, the idea of living without their passion destroy them inside. They are basically an empty shell at this point, coming to the valley and not doing anything.||
||The healing arc would basically be marriage-exclusive events, where they learn the live again, play music despite their handicap.||

Oh god text block

Sorry

[hard fern]

Nah, don't worry lol. I think it's an interesting idea

🤔 hmm but i do have some concerns

[fossil osprey]

Hence why I'll probably never do it

[hard fern]

Well my concerns were less about the idea itself and moreso about the execution

[fossil osprey]

Yeah I guessed so, part of the reason why I'll never do it x)

[hard fern]

If you're committed to leaving it as an idea, then i won't push

[fossil osprey]

I'll keep it in my idea folder with the huge weather system rework idea, with a potentially sligthly less "hard-to-make" note

One day, I'll make a mod, lol

[somber kernel]

The holy idea folder hahah

[fossil osprey]

So many things in there in various stages of completion

Like I have a basically finished dialogue edits that removes the subtext of Abigail being the wizard daugther (because I don't like that theory and seeing these dialogues reminds me of it), a barely started retexture of the game in a low-res style, a kind of advanced portraits and sprites mod that make NPC fit a more medieval-ish era

Among other things

[woeful lintel]

The concept of a travelling character is really cool, but I don't like locking them behind romance, it kinda feels like "oh, you don't want to romance them? we'll you don't get the character anymore"

[fossil osprey]

The second reason why I'll probably never do it x)
In this state at least, I could probably rework that part to a more platonic-friendly conclusion
Either making them still come, just less often because it's more difficult or something

[woeful lintel]

does smithy add another dependency to make the furniture a new catalogue?

[lucid mulch]

RSV does have a character that goes missing for extended periods of the year iirc
and SVE has a character with a very drastic schedule of being in wildly different locations each week day

[woeful lintel]

||I would say have 3 options in the 8 heart event: "I love you, stay", "I like you, you're a really cool person" and "I don't like you" with only the last one resulting in the accident. The first two would have them stay for the day as you described to spend time with them.||

[fossil osprey]

Hm that could be an elegant solution
I'll think about it, I'm getting more and more curious about whether I could do it

[somber kernel]

Would a working trashcan be possible on a farm map?

[hard fern]

Should be?

[somber kernel]

Hehe cool

[dawn ore]

I have a question, I know I can use the BETAS command ClearTerrainFeatures to clear trees and bushes etc, is there a way to force them to grow back on command?

[ebon birch]

what am i doing wrong here?

[hard fern]

Is your mod loading in to begin with?

[ebon birch]

yes, its a fashion sense pack and i'm editing around some pixels

[hard fern]

Oh. No wonder

Since it's not a content patcher pack, i think you have to use a different command

The command you used is for content patcher packs

[ebon birch]

oh okay

[brave fable]

(if you type help in the console it'll list out all commands from each mod, so you can find which one you need for the framework you're using)

[ebon birch]

thank you!

[dawn ore]

how can i get my custom NPC to path to my new cutom area? I as the player can walk there, but when i put it in the schedules they just sit there idll, not moving to the next map that is just off screen

[brave fable]

!sleep

what a pity

have you tried sleeping a day? NPC schedules aren't loaded until the next day

[dawn ore]

yeah i have. I've tried sleeping, reloading, etc

is it something to do with it being a map patch, that makes it non pathable to NPCs?

[brave fable]

there's a lot more followup questions to ask but i am. too tired hahah

for now i'd suggest sharing your schedule data and location patches via https://json.smapi.io

[dawn ore]

unfortunately, smapi.io is offline right now, I realised that when i was getting strange SMAPI log messages

[brave fable]

then my work here is done 🙂‍↕️

[hard fern]

Do tell, where is your map patch? You said it's a custom area, but where does it connect to?

(please don't say backwoods...)

[brave fable]

(secret woods it is then 🥳 )

[dawn ore]

It does connects to the Backwoods. Now, I know thats potentially problematic, but I found this mod that makes the backwoods pathable, and that itself seems to work ok:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/40185?tab=files&file_id=152325

[proud wyvern]

that mod seems to have a reported bug that it doesn't work

[hard fern]

Haha

[proud wyvern]

same exact behavior too

NPCs just not going anywhere

[brave fable]

a very making mods moment

[dawn ore]

Fair. I can tell you that NPCs are pathing through the backwoods - maybe there are more subtle issues, but Demetrius gave me a jumpscare when i looked away and suddenly he was there in the backwoods

[proud wyvern]

hm

[dawn ore]

but maybe I'll compromise and add a second path from the left hand side of the spa - geographically those should line up

Custom Area --- TrainStation
| |
| |
Backwoods ---- Mountain

just for reference, heres my guy, and my custom path:

he can walk to the backwoods ok, but then 'ignores' the command to walk up the the new area, when i can do that just fine in terms of warps etc

[west thunder]

Alright, so I found out how to do it.

But how do I go about creating the option to use the Vanilla texture?

Would I need to include that texture in my mod as well and just load that or is there a simpler way?

[brave fable]

you can simply have a config option that doesn't correspond to any When conditions in your patches

[west thunder]

hwo dat work

[brave fable]

say you have three patches, each with a different When checking ConfigA, ConfigB, and ConfigC from your config options. if you also have a ConfigD option with no patch, none of these patches will be applied, and the vanilla sprite will be unchanged

your ConfigD could be named anything, the only important part is that all of your patches have a condition that isn't being met when using this config option

[west thunder]

To be clear, I'm going for this.

Where one config option has a dropdown list where the player can choose one option.

(screenshot taken from contpatch docs)

To be more specific, I want to change the spritesheet of Krobus playing with the sea monster.

Option 1: both Krobus and the sea monster are changed;
Option 2: only Krobus is changed;
Option 3: only the sea monster is changed;
Option 4: Vanilla sprite, nobody's changed.

[west thunder]

So, in Changes, the configs A, B and C all should have their own sections with their corresponding sprites, whilst D is left blank and in turn Vanilla?

[brave fable]

without knowing what your sprites and patch regions look like, i would simplify it to:
Krobus: Custom, Vanilla
Seamonster: Custom, Vanilla
and where each of those patches has a When condition checking for a value of Krobus: Custom or Seamonster: Custom, meaning that the patch will not be applied if the value is Vanilla

[west thunder]

Hold on then.

Characters > SeaMonsterKrobus

This is the Vanilla sprite's location.

Both changed, Krobus changed, monster changed.

And the Vanilla one.

As for where these might be held in my mod folder, just a generic assets folder.

Just one sprite sheet, which I had made multiple versions of to my adoring fans' liking.

[brave fable]

someone can correct me if i'm wrong, since i've not used configschema or hasfile in CP ever, but i'd imagine you want something like this```json
{
"Format": "2.9.0",
"ConfigSchema": {
"Style": {
"AllowValues": "Both, Krobus, SeaMonster, Vanilla",
"Default": "Both"
}
},
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/SeaMonsterKrobus",
"FromFile": "assets/img_{{Style}}.png",
"When": {
"HasFile: assets/img_{{Style}}.png": "true"
}
}
]
}

assuming you have three files `assets/img_Both`, `assets/img_Krobus`, `assets/img_SeaMonster`

since you don't have a file assets/img_Vanilla, nothing will be patched, and the vanilla sprite will be used

[west thunder]

That seems about right, yeah.

As I suspected.

Thanks.

wait.

[brave fable]

no problem

problem

[west thunder]

lol

I believe the "HasFile" should instead be replaced with a { "Style": (value) }

As with true and false statements.

[brave fable]

try it both ways and see which works!

[west thunder]

Very well.

thanks bestie!!!

[brave fable]

interesting. animated tiles use the individual properties of each tile used in the animation

which includes Passable if you ever wanted a moving maze

[west thunder]

well that's not ominous

Notepad++ seems to be highlighting the three selected values for each config in orange.

(These are the "When" lines in the "Changes" portion of the content file)

oh that's me being a dumbass

I needed to put the values in quotation marks.

Omen begone.

[dawn ore]

Hello all. I've been making a mod that adds renewable energy like wind and solar to Pelican Town via a series of quests, electric furnaces, new Electrical Engineer NPC, and a few other fun bonuses. It's my first mod, and I'm probably 80-90% of the way towards a version 1.0 release, but I'm not confident in terms of things like compatibility with other mods, multiplayer, and general bugs. There are still a few rough edges, and the NPC is fairly plain at this stage with no heart events.

Is there any way to get play testers / beta testers who would be willing to give some feedback / review my code?

[opaque field]

I think #modded-stardew would be a good place to ask around :3

(I am also interested)

[dawn ore]

If anyone is feeling generous and could help, please message me 🙂
If I don't respond note that I'm in Australia so timezones etc. cheers!

[lucid mulch]

In this scenario you can also do

"FromFile": "assets/img_{{Style}}.png",
"When": {
  "HasFile:{{FromFile}}": true
}

to save on specifying the file path conventions twice

But this exact pattern is an example in the CP doc, just using {{Season}} instead of {{Style}}

[brave fable]

it doesn't matter how many times you say '100x100 tiles is just too big', some days you still just open the canvas at 100x100

[spice inlet]

is that the original ginger island?

[calm nebula]

Nice!

(I cant promise playtesting but as your local EE I approve)

[runic ferry]

Hello guys. I'm trying to come up with a Farmhouse mod but I'm struggling a little, so decided to ask for help. The map is technically ready for use, but when I update the house or get married this keeps happening (image). For some reason the original map gets loaded on top of my map..

I think I'm making some mistakes, because the crib I put in the map (with the tile property ''crib'') is not recognized by the game and the game generates a new one whenever FarmHouse is updated (that also spawns offmap)

could someone try to give me a little insight of what I'm doing wrong? I have been working on that for a while hahaha

[calm nebula]

Look up farmhouse renovations

[runic ferry]

Ok! Thank you so much!

[brave fable]

nope, just an idle project haha

clearly it needs cutting down some

[verbal narwhal]

reposting this here: #modded-stardew message
if someone has the time and kindness to give me feedback whether the options/config menu in gmcm are understandable, I would be very happy. There are many possible customization options and I feel like concise descriptions/language is not my strength.
Also I've spent too long on this for me to evaluate if I could translate it well

I have even added an overview page

[fossil osprey]

I don't have the possibility to install the mod to see the full thing, but from your screenshot I can already tell you your descriptions goes too much into technical vocabulary
You don't need to describe how it does it, just what it does; simple sentences would be better I think

[verbal narwhal]

ohh what of this would you consider technical vocabulary?

[fossil osprey]

Basically a lot of words linked to stats and probability
Like variance, chance roll, condition-criteria, etc
For example, in the "Normal random mode", you could simply say "a fixed chance to get pregnant anytime you agree to try"

[verbal narwhal]

ah yes, that is good!!

I mean I asked because I can feel that the wording is off but I cannot pinpoint why :D

[fossil osprey]

It's not a lot, but I can already see that a lot of people may not understand/not bother to read it because it's too long or has unnecessary details gameplay wise

Like we don't need to know there is some variance applied to the normal random, it's not necessary ^^

[opaque field]

I really like your explanation about the random chances (which I very much understand is a personal preference thing) but do agree with Mr.Duck

Question about the question customizatio: I assume it means you can configure the way in which you’re asking to try for a kid?

[verbal narwhal]

you can enable/disable custom questions for both playerxnpc and playerxplayer, then you can enter up to 16 question texts and configure individual conditions for each question to be drawn!

[golden basin]

That's very pretty omg

[opaque field]

Ooh awesome! I figured but didn’t want to just assume. (I love your helper lines in the config too)

[verbal narwhal]

sadly smapio.io seems to be down, but i can send my current default.json if anyone wants to edit it!

https://smapi.io/json/i18n/cf9d69813a3146f3af88b3e8bb04f4fc

here it is!

[somber kernel]

Dumbo question, how do yall test your mods? Like disable all other mods you’re using with another save in stardrop and making a selection for test farm? I need some details

[royal stump]

I've never used mod managers for SDV, so I generally just dump unnecessary mods in a "put these back later" folder and start a test save
folders starting with . are skipped by SMAPI

you can make an alternate Mods folder and set up a shortcut to start SMAPI targeting that, alternatively

[calm nebula]

Mods (Test)

Mods (Test2)

Mods (CutDown) (has 126 mods in it)

[royal stump]

I did use Mods (MP) and Mods (SVE) for a while

between that and alpha builds, I kept mixing up shortcuts

[calm nebula]

Tbh I also have Mods folders for every one of my real saves

Not that any of those mod folders are any good anymore

Given well

They were made in 1.5.6

[west thunder]

https://smapi.io/log/25dcdec3086d4c29b6d18e35ee05491a

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26100.0), with 109 C# mods and 195 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[west thunder]

I'm tired.

Ignore all the mods, I'll get that over with when I'm finally done modding.

[royal stump]

your json's needed for context, but you probably have an extra } somewhere before line 33
Technical details: Additional text encountered after finished reading JSON content: {. Path '', line 33, position 1.

it thinks the overarching {} object already ended

[west thunder]

(Content JSON)
https://smapi.io/json/none/8afb57ff2af8487e931fca5e3a4d3396

(Mummy JSON)
https://smapi.io/json/none/7ee1df7498984e3597b202ad92f8c096

[brittle pasture]

your second file seems to be two files smudged into one

merge them into one, with only one top level object containing only one Changes list

[royal stump]

yeah, that or you might have a dwarvish sentry file elsewhere & copy-pasted here

[west thunder]

wtf how did that happen

Thanks for telling me.

https://smapi.io/json/none/968a6c9ef4a3491cb49d01644eba255e

This should be good.

[hot oasis]

Hey!! If I made an event that triggers when farmer goes in Saloon (for example) but then I want farmer to spawn in Town instead of Saloon after the event is over..Is that possible?

[royal stump]

end warpOut would probably send them outside at the saloon door afterward, I think
if not, there might be more complicated methods, like fade and changeLocation or some such
https://www.stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data#Event_scripts

[hot oasis]

That's great! Ill try that out! Thank you!

[somber kernel]

And you’d just put a period in front of the folder you don’t want to trigger? Could you then do duplicate mods in 2 different folders but not in a third for example?

[west thunder]

Yikes.

Anyone here know how Monster Variety works? I've ran into a peculiar issue.

Chu's away, so I'll need a substitute.

I'm trying to change the textures for the Skeleton Mage, but Stardew Valley, FOR WHATEVER REASON, decides to call it a regular skeleton.

So it, in turn, uses the skeleton texture.

Is there a way to get around it or do I have to face the music and just use Content Patcher's basic-ass load function, going against the entire format of monster texture activation?

thx in advance!!!!!!!

[royal stump]

afaict, chu would have to add another exception for skeleton mage, e.g. alongside the special bug code
(https://github.com/Mushymato/MonsterVariety?tab=readme-ov-file#special-cases)
skeletons and skeleton mages use the same C# class, and it doesn't change the monster's Name field when making one spawn as a mage, which is what Monster Variety generally checks
(skeleton mages just have a different texture setting, and an internal field "isMage": true that changes how they act)

incidentally, I guess the game never actually uses the "skeleton mage" entry in Data/Monsters

[west thunder]

So this is the only viable option for now?

[royal stump]

probably, yeah, though I'm not familiar with using the mod

it presumably treats skeleton mages and skeletons as the exact same thing

[west thunder]

This game's weird, dawg.

I found out Carbon Ghost and Lava Bat have secret dangerous variants that don't even have their own special textures.

So I had to make new ones myself.

Maybe that's the secret Eric was talking about all along.

That modding monsters is agonizing.

[royal stump]

yeah, green slimes and bats (and bat-like things) share a lot of code and largely just update their numbers by context

whatever 1.7 might do to them aside, all the monster names are kinda made-up, FTM just has an arbitrary list of "IDs" it accepts for the types

[west thunder]

Christ.

Oh, sorry, Yoba's little gugugaga.

Well, either way.

Thanks bestie.

You saved me time. Plenty of it.

[smoky wing]

How do i make mods? Like for changing character sprites and portraits

I wanna start to make my own

[west thunder]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#changes

Seems like a decent starting point.

Someone else probably knows a command or two that could link a ton more stuff.

[tiny zealot]

!software if you want to make sprites and portraits, you will need an image editor to do pixel art with

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[tiny zealot]

!unpack and you will likely want an unpacked copy of the game assets for reference

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[smoky wing]

Thank you!

By the way, idk if this is possible, but in a mod, is there a way to change a character's walk speed? Or make them permanently stay at one place

[west thunder]

are we deadass

NOT EVEN CP'S LOAD FUNCTION APPLIES TO IT.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[royal stump]

mobile so I can't dig around rn, but if MV is overriding the mages' sprites with basic skeleton sprites, there probably isn't a way to differentiate

they'd end up with the same target asset(s) as each other

[west thunder]

I might have to use the CP load for ALL skeletons.

Thanks.

[lucid iron]

Terrible times, but yeah sure I'll add something

[west thunder]

MY DEITY.

But yeah, I'll probably still have to keep the skeletons in Content Patcher hell for a bit.

But hey, that means I save space in the mod folder, yeah?

[tiny zealot]

you can't change a character's schedule walk speed without some (fairly cursed, i expect) C#. you can have them stay in one place all the time with just schedule edits: simply don't have them move anywhere. (see vanilla dwarf and wizard for examples)

[smoky wing]

Is it to much to ask you how to do it? I have no coding experience with other programs except Lua

[tiny zealot]

truthfully, i don't know how exactly. i'd have to dig through the decompile to look for a strategy

and at the risk of sounding blunt, i doubt it's a good first mod for someone without much prior experience

!startmodding if you want to learn C# for stardew modding, i would start with the link here. the wiki guide will walk you through making a good first C# mod so you can learn the ropes a bit

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[west thunder]

AT LONG LAST.

[smoky wing]

Just finished retexturing haley!!

Just need to figure out how to actually make it a mod

And make her stay always at the same spot

Ok so I found out

How to edit schedules

The bad thing is

Idk what any of the text im seeing means

[ornate drift]

so um

how do i make a warp for my NPC

[brittle pasture]

look into CP's EditMap operation, particularly the AddWarps field

[ornate drift]

shouldnt i like

make a base in Tiled though

like where i want my NPC to warp

[smoky wing]

can i use notepad++ to edit the json files?

[brittle pasture]

or you can patch in a map section yes

it would just be the same as a map edit

[ornate drift]

this is all pretty new to me

[brittle pasture]

you can also patch in a map without a warp and add in a warp after the fact with AddWarps

either way read the doc about EditMap

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md

to clarify, you:

• make your map patch in Tiled
• use EditMap to apply that patch on top of a vanilla map

[ornate drift]

do i need to extract it as a tmx file and then put that file into my npc folder

[brittle pasture]

save your patch as a tmx file in your mod and apply the patch using EditMap, with FromFile pointing to your tmx file

[smoky wing]

sorry to bother but how do i do multiple actions? like i wanna change a potrait, done, but if i wanna change ANOTHER portrait in the same file, how do I do that?

like how do i write it or whatever

[brittle pasture]

Actions is a JSON list []

a list can have multiple entries [{}, {}]

[smoky wing]

yeah i figured it out tyy!!

what concerns me is that uh

i dont know how to make it differenciate between

haley.json

and haley.png

cuz i feel like that could mess the whole game up

and i dont want that to happen to anyone that uses it

[brittle pasture]

I'm going to need more context

if by haley.json you mean putting more code in that file you Include it
haley.png is the image file you use in the actual Load/EditImage action

[smoky wing]

like im concerned if load/editimage could confuse the haley png and haley json cuz they got the exact same name and directory

[brittle pasture]

do you have file extensions enabled

you should if you don't

!extensions

!fileextensions

[ocean sail]

Hidden File Extensions

Windows and Mac hide most file extensions by default. If you are creating or updating mods, it's helpful to show file extensions so that you can be sure all mod files are named correctly.

To show file extensions on your computer:

On Windows 10, open File Explorer, click on the View tab, then check the File Name Extensions box.

On Windows 11, open File Explorer and click on View > Show > File Name Extensions.

On Mac, open Finder, and in the menu bar, click on Finder > Settings (or Preferences) > Advanced, then check the Show all filename extensions box.

To use this command, type !fileextensions.

[smoky wing]

no i know, i have them enabled

but since the code doesnt include the file extention

just the name

i was concerned if like

that could mess it up

[brittle pasture]

are you referring to the files in your mod, or the game's content folder

[smoky wing]

like the content.json file

[brittle pasture]

if the former (your mod code) they must have the extension

[smoky wing]

so "Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Haley.png",

?

[brittle pasture]

ah I should clarify then, that's not a file in your mod, that's the game's content folder I was talking about

[smoky wing]

no i know

but do i have to put .png

or?

[brittle pasture]

in that case no

[ornate drift]

what background layer do trees count as in Tiled?

[smoky wing]

oh alr

tyy

[brittle pasture]

the technical detail is long but the game doesn't actually use/see pngs and jsons, the unpacked files are just convenient human viewable unpacks

[brittle pasture]

do you mean background trees or actual interactable trees

[ornate drift]

background trees

ones that you can go behind and in front of

[smoky wing]

if i completely empty a character's dialogue file will that make them completely silent or break the game?

[brittle pasture]

usually Building+Front?

[smoky wing]

like the whole file being empty

[brittle pasture]

look at vanilla maps for ref

[brittle pasture]

yeah generally do not touch vanilla assets

[ornate drift]

i only have like

one layer

lmao

[smoky wing]

i mean for the mod

[brittle pasture]

well you can try, i don't think anything hard explodes

[brittle pasture]

it's easiest to duplicate a vanilla map and then just delete everything you don't want instead of starting from scratch

[ornate drift]

idk how to do that

[brittle pasture]

just copy pasta a vanilla tmx file

[smoky wing]

smapi is giving me an error about my mod everytime i load the game but i cant see it cuz it just flashes for a second before the game loads

is there any way to check without actually running stardew?

[fossil osprey]

!log could help

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[fossil osprey]

You'll get the latest log, so you might see the error

[urban patrol]

the console is also still open while the game is running, you just have to minimize or alt tab

[smoky wing]

ok so turns out i was running an older version of smapi and content patcher

it says that (my mods) files are nonexistent?? even though the have the exact name of the files in the asset folder

[urban patrol]

!fileextensions

[ocean sail]

Hidden File Extensions

Windows and Mac hide most file extensions by default. If you are creating or updating mods, it's helpful to show file extensions so that you can be sure all mod files are named correctly.

To show file extensions on your computer:

On Windows 10, open File Explorer, click on the View tab, then check the File Name Extensions box.

On Windows 11, open File Explorer and click on View > Show > File Name Extensions.

On Mac, open Finder, and in the menu bar, click on Finder > Settings (or Preferences) > Advanced, then check the Show all filename extensions box.

To use this command, type !fileextensions.

[smoky wing]

Load Characters/Haley_Winter has a FromFile which matches non-existent file 'assets\winternormal.png'.

???

[smoky wing]

i have that active already

i dont get whats wrong

and its that for EVERY file

[urban patrol]

idk if slashes vs backslashes matter but i would try that

[brittle pasture]

what's your folder look like

[smoky wing]

wdym exactly?

[brittle pasture]

a screenshot of your folder if you can

[smoky wing]

oh alr

[brittle pasture]

is the assets folder inside the [CP]NoHaley folder

if so then you need to move it outside

[smoky wing]

yeah

[smoky wing]

ohh

ok tyy

[brittle pasture]

the location of content.json is the root of your mod

[smoky wing]

yeah no i just realized what i did wrong

tyyy!

Is there a time skip mod? Im tired of waiting for the npcs schedule just to check if everything works

Or like

Debug mode i guess

[brittle pasture]

CJB Cheats

[calm nebula]

For schedules time skip doesnt quite work

You want a fast forward mod for that

[smoky wing]

How

Also does anyone know to to change a characters dialogue?

Like all of it

[tranquil surge]

Okay, the fish aspect on my content.json is still not working. Any idea why this might be?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4d0681f82bf04fda99077347cc68b5a9

[smoky wing]

I saw multiple mods that could also change a characters name, how do they do that?

[urban patrol]

wdym by not working

[urban patrol]

try sinz' event tester

[urban patrol]

edit Characters/Dialogue/CharacterName

[tranquil surge]

The fish simply aren't anywhere on my farm map. I can't figure out why I can't fish them out...

All I'm getting is the default fish for the foraging farm for some reason.

[urban patrol]

you can change their display name by editing their Data/Characters entry but finding all mentions of their name will be harder

[urban patrol]

well are you still replacing the foraging farm?

[smoky wing]

Isnt there an easier way? A program or something?

Or someone that can di that type of stuff?

[tranquil surge]

I tried without replacing the foraging farm and while replacing that farm.

[urban patrol]

yeah you can learn C# and make a C# mod

[smoky wing]

I'm not very experienced sorry

[urban patrol]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[smoky wing]

Im already doing that

Oh nvm

[urban patrol]

can you send your entire content.json so i can see what you're doing now? it's hard to troubleshoot when things change behind the scenes

[brittle pasture]

the content modder yearns for ichor to release a legit version of npc name changer

[smoky wing]

Atp I might comission or beg someone to help me do it cuz

Wtf

[tranquil surge]

I did though?
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4d0681f82bf04fda99077347cc68b5a9
There it is again

[smoky wing]

I'm genuinely this close to giving up on the mod

[urban patrol]

oh i assumed you had only cut out the relevant parts, my bad

what location does lookup anything show you as being in when you're on your farm?

[tranquil surge]

how do I use the lookup anything to see that? The WhereAmI on SMAPI says that I'm on the Farm...

[urban patrol]

lookup anything is a mod you can install to see information about the game

and what farm did you select at the save creation screen

[tranquil surge]

Yeah, I have it installed. I just don't know what to type in the search to look that up in particular.

[urban patrol]

i believe the default key to press is F1

[tranquil surge]

I chose the GrayFarm map, the name of my mod. I also have a second one where I chose the Foraging Farm, and the results are pretty much identical except that the GrayFarm doesn't have a decorated interior for the Farm House.

[tranquil surge]

Yes, while looking at an item under my cursor I can press f1 to see information about it. And while not looking at an Item, I can pull up the search menu using shift+f1.

I just don't know what I'm supposed to be looking up to get the information you're looking for. What is the search query I should type in?

[urban patrol]

i think it shows when you lookup on the farmer? i can't check rn. but you already did debug whereami so it's fine for now

does a patch export of data/locations show your fish data on gray farm

[tranquil surge]

Ah, that's what it is, thanks. It says I'm on the Forest Farm... Let me try swapping to the other save really quick.

[urban patrol]

ah yep that would be your issue

oh wait no

you set that as your display name

[tranquil surge]

Oh, yeah, right. Let me change that to avoid potential confusion really quickly.

Okay, I just changed what my custom farm's display name should be, and it's still saying that I'm on the "Forest Farm". Let me try on the other map.

[somber kernel]

This is really basic but I don’t get what ModId is, where it comes from (do you make it up yourself?), what should be part of it, the whole shebang. I know it’s a vital part and I think I somewhat understand what it does but I just don’t get it

[urban patrol]

{{ModId}} is a token that content patcher replaces with whatever you put in the UniqueId field inside your manifest. it's traditional to make it yourname.yourmodname

you should prefix things like NPC names, animals, locations, etc. you add to the game with your mod id to make sure there are no conflicts with other mods

for example, if i wanted to add butter to the game without clashing with cornucopia, i could add {{ModId}}_Butter, which would be replaced with handwrittenhello.mycoolmod_Butter and wouldn't clash with Cornucopia_Butter

[somber kernel]

Right

[tranquil surge]

So this is my test map, using the custom map and not replacing the forest farm in any way.

[urban patrol]

and what does a patch export of Data/Locations show?

[smoky wing]

Im gonna cry how do i even mod this 💔💔💔

[tranquil surge]

The what now? are you referring to the unpacked locations.json file?

[smoky wing]

Im giving up before I even launched the first version holy shit

[urban patrol]

no https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/troubleshooting.md#export

[somber kernel]

It’s gonna take longer than an evening to set it up. Take a step back, try again tomorrow or gather more info on how to get it done

[tranquil surge]

There it is.

https://smapi.io/json/none/ac707a8c1f0c40e3a37190c11016bf19

Starting from line 17834 until the end of the file at line 18449 is apparently where my custom map has been added.

[urban patrol]

your position for fish areas is null, which means it applies to the whole farm, is that what you want?

[tranquil surge]

From what I can tell, it should be spawning all the different fish. And yet, all I seem to be getting are small and largmouth bass, shad, sunfish, Carp, Bullhead, and Catfish. that, and a ton of junk.

[tranquil surge]

Yup, For now I want this to apply to all bodies of water on my custom farm map.

[merry river]

just to make sure: are you using the proper rod to catch these fish?

[tranquil surge]

Iridium Rod, with Dressed Spinner Tackle and Deluxe Bait.

[merry river]

the very first rod couldnt catch all kinds of fish iirc

[urban patrol]

right now you should be getting an overwhelming amount of town, forest and mountain fish, and no beach fish because you have Ocean instead of Beach

the chances of the other fish are so low as to be negligible

or the conditions aren't met

[tranquil surge]

Should it read beach rather than ocean? I thought the github for cp said the terrain was ocean, not beach?

[urban patrol]

but the location is called beach, and you're adding fish by location

[tranquil surge]

Easy enough fix.

What's the debug command to change the season to Summer again?

[urban patrol]

idk i use cjb cheats

i would sleep and/or re-enter the location if you cheat the season though

[pale river]

I use CJB cheats too

[tranquil surge]

Okay, so the desert fish are spawning in summer, since Scorpion Carp are a desert-only catch iirc. Still not seeing any ocean/beach fish though...

So I'm looking up specific fish from the Lookupanything mod, and it's saying that the spawn location for any and all types of fish aren't met while I'm at my farm... That's not to say they aren't spawning at my farm though. But the icean fish in particular still aren't spawning.

Also, is there some way to reduce to amount of trash that I'm fishing up? It's effectively a 50% chance to get trash or a fish it seems, even with my test account.

[smoky wing]

But like I dont mean in-dialogue, I mean the name that appears on the heart menu section and on top of the dialogue box when they speak