making-mods-general

[golden basin]

thats what im needing though i dont need a powerful thing, and im trying to keep the number of frameworks needed low

dont wanna overwhelm users

i already have 6 needed

[lucid iron]

I should go and make a tile action version of "just animal shop"

[golden basin]

whnat a cute icon!

[lucid iron]

Rn it's bundled together

[golden basin]

the shop we made together chu was so har to understand

hard*

but it works great

[lucid iron]

Yeah but it doesn't offer any way to add another entry to the menu (bc it's specialized)

[golden basin]

what do you mean?

[lucid iron]

You can only have animal shop, supply shop, pet shop, cancel

There's no way to add more options to the response in livestock bazaar atm

[golden basin]

oooo you wanna make it where you can add as many shop names as you want

be a good way to make a order hotline

[lucid iron]

If u have like a direct "just animal shop pls" thing then u can use it with mmap or selphshopthing easier

Atm there is a trigger action for it but not a map action

[golden basin]

would you be changing how the other way works too or just adding another way?

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah chue since you're here did you do anything special for CSSM and Item Extension's extra trade items

[lucid iron]

No i never got it to work in the first place

So i just went shrug compat problem for 2027

[brittle pasture]

I asked since extra trade items I also kinda sorta 2 caked

compat is probably also doom because I can't see where I'd put extra space

[lucid iron]

Well i can expose my config real quick

Then u can know how many item per row is configured

As for the drawing bit idk i guess I can accept a draw delegate via api too where u get the bounds?

let me know what sorta thing u want from API n I'll do it

[celest knoll]

help what the heck does the red part mean in the smapi log???
https://smapi.io/log/163c382bd8b1484ba874a1855e39a109

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.2.0, with 11 C# mods and 9 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[brittle pasture]

hmm lemme thonk, definitely wont get back to you before version release though
this is like 5% urgent since there's already the tooltip

almost

[brittle pasture]

show your code? but it seems like you're loading the same asset multiple times without setting priority, which is not allowed

[celest knoll]

for content??

also should the portraits/sprites be in xnb or something

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c4c00f3d09a7477cbd04573659e76566

[brittle pasture]

your second block, you probably meant to load into ⁨Portraits/{{ModId}}_Pandora⁩ instead of ⁨Characters/{{ModId}}_Pandora⁩

[brittle pasture]

no need, that's just how the game sees it after conversion by CP

[celest knoll]

ahh ok

[celest knoll]

ohh ok tysm let me see if theres more issues......

[brittle pasture]

I'm not fitting all this into a CSSM square

[celest knoll]

SHES ALIVE!!

[hallow prism]

(why is there magic symbols?)

[lucid iron]

I think best case is just tell u when give up

Which u can just do as a config on ur side for now too

[uncut viper]

what is a CSSM square..

[gentle rose]

hmm, maybe replace the cost with a … icon? and then show on hover

(when it’s too long)

[brittle pasture]

waow... 2 green ppl in chat

[uncut viper]

maybe just accept that if someone wants to add a million trade items then maybe trade item shops isnt the way to go

[jaunty shuttle]

Ahhh that reminds me, congrats to you both on becoming junimos!!

[slim gorge]

current work on SM for 1.6 is going along fine, need to test a few things, and still splitting the backend of it away from the game parts to make the mod more universal.

and need to investigate a spurious crash people reported that I haven't been able to figure out yet.

[hallow prism]

magic apples

[merry river]

alchemy apples

[lucid iron]

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1303/images/33271/33271-1745120853-1698382224.png

[uncut viper]

i see. what does CSSM stand for though, thats a new acronym to me

[lucid iron]

Compact Searchable Shop Menu

[uncut viper]

added to my lexicon thank u

[lucid iron]

(it's cus Better is taken)

[uncut viper]

Compact Searchable Better Menu

[brittle pasture]

Objectively Superior Menu

or Subjectively

idk what Better means in most cases

[uncut viper]

Objectively Subjectively Menu?

[calm nebula]

Misspelling of Butter

Also anything u do is awesome, Button

[celest knoll]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/48b5277d962f475091d927f83d387636
Smapi says there's an unexpected character for line 3.. but it's just "["? I don't what I'm doing wrong

if anyone knows the issue please lmk

[uncut viper]

are you accidentally Loading this patch to the dialogue asset instead of using the Include action?

[celest knoll]

rhis in the content?

[autumn tide]

hm, could you attach your content.json and the file path thing to your dialog file?

[celest knoll]

wdym file path?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/660729e3bca8486497e1675eed2bda13

this is content

[autumn tide]

uhhhhh like mod/(your mod's name)/(the folder where you have your dialog file in)

...sorry if that made no sense- one sec

this is mine for my file with all the trigger actions

[celest knoll]

uhh its t

Mods/mymodsname/assets/dialogue/the file

[autumn tide]

gotchaaa okay then that include entry looks alr to me, but keep in mind I'm also a relative beginner

[celest knoll]

😓 euhhh idk whjats doing wrong then

[autumn tide]

lemme see

hMMM I don't see any glaring issues myself (again beginner sooo), maybe attach a value to the log's name and then try again?

ALSO are you aware of the ⁨patch reload⁩ command?

[celest knoll]

value?

ehh no

i starred like 3 days ago...

[autumn tide]

uhhh thingy in the quotes that's not there

hold up I got a nice tutorial..

https://stardew.button.gay/tutorials/json

[celest knoll]

oh right

[celest knoll]

ooh

[autumn tide]

it's really good!

[celest knoll]

my goodness doing this fixed it

[autumn tide]

yayyyy

[celest knoll]

tyt :3

[autumn tide]

ofc!

-# woohoooo I know a thing!

[celest knoll]

wait nvm

i thought it fied but it didnt

....

any other ideas..?

[autumn tide]

hmmm send the log?

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[celest knoll]

if i have values that arent filled in would that affect it or..? bcz i currently have some that i dont have filled in

https://smapi.io/log/351cb142ba2b4e43987e2eb7061108d8

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.2.0, with 11 C# mods and 9 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[autumn tide]

oh thank god button's here- she knows what she's doing as opposed to me LOL

[uncut viper]

you are both Including and Loading the dialogue. your patch on Lines 20–25 is Loading your included file

(which you dont want to do!)

[celest knoll]

wwaht am i supposed to be doing 😞

[uncut viper]

Just the Include! The patch just before it is correct

[celest knoll]

ohh wait so its an issue in the content

wait i get it now

[uncut viper]

When you ⁨Load⁩ something, Content Patcher tries to give it to the game directly. So when you're Loading to the dialogue target, its trying to give the game a list of "key: value" entries

But your dialogue.json is formatted like a Content Patcher Json with changes and patches and everything, which is used for Includes

[celest knoll]

if i include do i need a target?

[uncut viper]

Nope!

[celest knoll]

yayy ok

[uncut viper]

Your Include is correct

[celest knoll]

ok tysmm!

[autumn tide]

hm, you're also gonna wanna do thorough testing with less mods in your file, preferably just dependencies and the stuff you need to more efficiently debug

[uncut viper]

So you just need to remove the Load

is your ⁨marriageDialogue.json⁩ also a content patcher formatted file, with Changes and patches inside it?

(and same with your schedule.json - basically, double check that these are supposed to be Loads and not Includes)

[celest knoll]

emm i havent done tose yet but i hope they will be? im just trying to get it to work first so i dont have to go through mountains of errors later...

[celest knoll]

okiekie

[autumn tide]

-# oh shit they don't-

[brittle pasture]

new version of Carpentry Catalogue is released! Featuring:

• Extra trade items for shops
• Ability to open a question dialogue menu on maps for multiple map actions
• Custom geode breaker menus
  steal Clint/Marnie/Robin's monopoly on shop menus today

[brittle pasture]

@golden basin ^

[golden basin]

Thank you!

[celest knoll]

smapi is not letting me load dialogue asset thingyt .?
https://smapi.io/log/57aa8af27ddc410c8041d4ac2940b743

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.2.0, with 11 C# mods and 9 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[golden basin]

Oh wait is this a new framework?

[red basalt]

Yeah, it says so on their page

[golden basin]

I'm on mobile I haven't opened it yet

[red basalt]

Oh

Although I don't really know what it does

[golden basin]

See I thought it was builder mod....I didn't think id need to add another dependency

Or is it a replacement.....do I need to redo my shops again

[uncut viper]

you cant use tokens in your console (outside of the ⁨patch parse⁩ command), you have to write out the modid manually

[brittle pasture]

no, that's the same one you've been using

I renamed it a while ago

for style™

[golden basin]

Ooooooh

[lucid iron]

CC (a BB)

[golden basin]

Okay cool

[celest knoll]

what does thi mean...

[uncut viper]

{{ModId}} is a token

you cant write {{ModId}} in the console because SMAPI doesnt know what it means

you have to manually write out the UniqueID in your manifest instead of {{ModId}}

[celest knoll]

it still isnt loading...

[autumn tide]

hellooo can config values be directly used in ⁨Condition⁩ keys (the ones that take GSQs), or do I have to do something more complex? wanna make a trigger action only apply when a certain config value is chosen, and I have enough values that using ⁨when⁩ and making all those dictionaries would be tedious

[lucid iron]

If your config is a true/false then you can use it as a GSQ yes, because there's 2 gsqs by those names

[autumn tide]

got ittt, I'm too dumb for that (added more values) so it's prolly ⁨when⁩ time

[lucid iron]

I don't particularly recommend doing it, feels better to just not add the trigger action

[autumn tide]

sadly, I'm insane

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #7196 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1467642552265081016)

[lucid iron]

No i think config as condition gsq is just more lazy

[golden basin]

so cani have some direction of what i need to change?

[autumn tide]

yayyy got quoted for my remarkable idiocy-

[lucid iron]

The reason why i think it's better to "not edit" is bc the config isn't something that will change frequently

I dislike having a no-op trigger action entry

[autumn tide]

yeah :(

heh making thing for configurably increased difficulty to befriend krobus/dwarf

with 3 levels

[lucid iron]

If u have a lot of trigger actions dependent on the same config you can always put those behind 1 include

[autumn tide]

hmm?

[lucid iron]

So that you only need to write the When one time

[autumn tide]

uh huh!

[merry river]

i didnt even know it was a thing, which gsq can actually been used with config values? i thought they were separate things since one was a CP thing and the other built-in

[autumn tide]

ALSO chu I probably asked this before, but what pronouns do you use?

[brittle pasture]

the latest version only adds new features, so you don't have to change anything

[lucid iron]

There's a gsq literally called TRUE and FALSE

[brittle pasture]

if you wanna switch to using a menu, follow the menu guide + example

the menu would call the existing map actions you've been using

tl;dr switch the map action over

[golden basin]

i just dont understand completely yet ill try to read it again

im wanting to put my builder, the supply shop and the geode breaker thing all undder one menu

and im just confused by how to link my already made shops in with the new feature

[lucid iron]

But in general gsq is just a string so if your config token resolves to the right string it'll work

[lucid iron]

My pronouns are "idc use whatever"

[autumn tide]

gotcha :)

[golden basin]

esp cause its all one npc

Oh WAIT I see okay its starting click

[dawn moth]

Anyone know if the Volcano paths items (Button and Door markers) work outside of the volcano specifically? Wondering if I can use them elsewhere

[calm nebula]

Hi whatever!

[calm nebula]

No

[brittle pasture]

instead of the shop action being on the map, it'd be an entry in the menu

[dawn moth]

Ah heck, fair enough; I'll just do it through a map edit I suppose then. Thanks for the help Handknit

[brittle pasture]

but yeah see the example below

[lucid iron]

Sup any pronouns accepted

[lucid iron]

Do u want them to immediately activate like in volcano dungeon?

[dawn moth]

Yeah; for context, I'd be using it as a way to open a shortcut/new area. There's a warp into this room from the cellar, and an entryway into it from the main farm; I'm wanting to prevent access to a certain section until they've opened it from the cellar warp side

So it'd still function as the same type of gate mechanism that exists in the volcano dungeon areas, or most accurately the volcano entryway with its button to open that gate which leads to the caldera

[autumn tide]

so. does this have any chance of working- I'm mostly screwing around rather than coming up with final draft code and I wanna know if I did this correctly (good to have knowledge for future shenanigans)

[lucid iron]

If u need immediate map updates then u would need some kinda framework, if u r fine with waiting a day then content patcher editmap is sufficient

[steel compass]

Hi guys how do I start making mods i think I need content patch as I wanna tinker with bundles I checked it out on the wiki and I think m it’s the content pack one, but what do I do? Don’t wanna ramble but I’m autistic and struggle to understand things some times, is it like an app I can use to make it all? I wanna muck about with bundles

[dawn moth]

I'd have it sync with the addition of the cellar, as that requires the player to sleep for it to finish (And is the other way in). Shouldn't be too bad

[lucid iron]

There isn't any sort of simple GUI for comm center bundle mods unfortunately

[autumn tide]

!startmodding :)

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid iron]

You will have to write the json

[steel compass]

I wanna make new ones

[steel compass]

So do I just code what I want?

[autumn tide]

mhm!

[steel compass]

Where do I write it

[autumn tide]

check out the guide thing in the command :)

[lucid iron]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[lucid iron]

Take a look at the vanilla bundle data first

[steel compass]

Ok so I unpack the file add what I want and then it works?

[autumn tide]

unpacking lets you look at the game's files, so you can learn how the game does things

it does not edit the game

[lucid iron]

Yeah it's for reference purposes

[autumn tide]

-# (oh thank god I thought I got something wrong LOL)

[steel compass]

How do I add stuff then

[autumn tide]

that can come later, best to see how the game does it first to understand the sort of thing you'd be writing

[lucid iron]

To add stuff you need to write a content patcher json

[steel compass]

Where do I write that

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

A json is a kind of plain text file

But i recommend following the tutorial on wiki it's more in depth

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher

[steel compass]

I see thank you so much this is very helpful

[golden basin]

Can i have multiple shops being run by the same npc?

[autumn tide]

OH and chu, do you think this would work?

oh hey fellowclown!

[golden basin]

its working so far except my smithing shop says cros not there but he is

[lucid iron]

Probably but what is the goal here

[autumn tide]

shenanigans

LOL, increased heart difficulty by reducing friendship points nightly

[lucid iron]

It seems like not a lot of reduction

[autumn tide]

and I wanted to add that ⁨{{Hearts:Krobus}}⁩ to hopefully make the reduction based on heart level

[brittle pasture]

sure!

[autumn tide]

hmmm, I do have an extra difficult version too

[brittle pasture]

you don't actually need each entry to be different NPCs, if you thought that's what the example did

[lucid iron]

You can probably do some {{query}} stuff if u wanna maff

[golden basin]

its nto quite working then its saying hes not there to run the shop for the smithing shop

everything else works tho

[autumn tide]

oooh good! didn't know if that would work outside of ⁨when⁩ thingies

all of the examples are in ⁨when⁩ things iirc

[lucid iron]

It's hard to answer will this work in vacuum because idk what the goals are

[autumn tide]

got ittt okay

[lucid iron]

Better to just test in game

[brittle pasture]

feel free to show your code if you need help

[golden basin]

https://smapi.io/json/none/45f51dd8ff72495cb928e5daeecb93dd

[brittle pasture]

⁨CustomBuilders_OpenBlacksmithShop⁩ you wanna use the shop ID, not the NPC ID

⁨OpenBlacksmithShop⁩ takes a shop ID like regular shops

[golden basin]

ooooooo so blacksmithshop should be my shop id

[brittle pasture]

⁨"{{ModID}}_SmithingShop"⁩ in this case

yep

[golden basin]

thank you so much

[dawn moth]

This is something that needs a small MapEdit right? I've seen other farms with a map patch for right under the greenhouse, just wanted to be sure

[spice inlet]

could you show your layers in tiled? idk how 1.6 handles it but iirc in 1.5 it would expect a layer called untitled something and would grab the tile from thefe

[lucid iron]

Nah this is cus your untitled tile sheet is not the untitled tile sheet

[spice inlet]

kinda hardcoded

[lucid iron]

It's gotta be spring_outdoors or u die

[lucid iron]

This is unchanged in 1.6

[dawn moth]

Noted, I'll update the name then; mine isn't named spring_outdoors, though I believe my current vitality is positive

[autumn tide]

heheh love the user SMEPI

[lucid iron]

The tilesheet name being checked for is untitled tile sheet

You can check the vanilla farm tmx to make sure

[dawn moth]

Alright, I've updated it to spring_outdoors

Though it needing to be that specific is slightly terrifying

[lucid iron]

It's just a little bit of hardcoding

[lucid iron]

To clarify the logic is

• find first tileset named untitled tile sheet
• pick specific tile id from there to draw for greenhouse entry

Iirc Maps/spring_outdoors is the tilesheet asset with the right tile at right position

Best to double check with a vanilla farm map in case I'm wrong

[golden basin]

im still getting that cros not there

⁨{ "Id": "Blacksmith", "Name": "Smithing Service", "Action": "selph.CustomBuilders_Open {{ModID}}_SmithingShop none 900 2000 4 8 5 5", "MessageIfFalse": "Cro ain't here right now!", }, ⁩

liek this right?

[brittle pasture]

hmm what if you remove all the params but the shop ID

also since all the shops are run by one person you don't need the time/direction/area for the sub entries

[golden basin]

oh okay

[brittle pasture]

oh wait I see it

⁨selph.CustomBuilders_Open⁩
should be ⁨selph.CustomBuilders_OpenBlacksmithShop⁩

[golden basin]

oh so one word?

[brittle pasture]

⁨⁨selph.CustomBuilders_OpenBlacksmithShop⁩ {{ModID}}_SmithingShop⁩

[golden basin]

ooo

[west thunder]

@mellow laurel horse

Now, what about the sound?

Also, what's the format nowadays? 2.8.0?

[mellow laurel]

just leave the Motorcycle(SMAPI) folder as is, don't combine the two

2.9.0

[west thunder]

2.9.0?

Since when?

Do I need to update my existing mods too now?

[mellow laurel]

since content patcher is 2.9.0

[uncut viper]

the 11th

[west thunder]

Oh god, do I have to go through all of my mods now?

[lucid mulch]

you only need to uplift the format version if you plan on using newer features added in the versions since

[uncut viper]

Some new mods may require the new feature added but it won't matter for most

[west thunder]

Oh, so I can just keep 2.8.0 as is unless there's a new update for the individual mods, right?

[uncut viper]

The format mainly is there so content patcher can migrate old mods if it needs to. But it doesn't always need to

[lucid mulch]

old format versions are always going to be supported, with the only asterisk being pre 2.0 formats being assumed to be 1.5 mods and so extra migration logic runs as a result

[west thunder]

Anyway, so what about the XNB file in the assets folder of that mod?

Do I keep them?

[mellow laurel]

yea, those are fine as is

just tested it, it is a very cute mod

[west thunder]

Sweet, thanks.

Still don't know whether the engine sound actually sounds good or not because I don't know how long the galloping sounds for the horse are.

[soft lance]

For the TargetField, in terms of maps, is it possible to target multiple maps, as long as they follow a pattern?
I am attempting to add support to "Gem Isles", a mod that generates new maps, such as aedenthorn.GemIsles_GemIsles_1_1, aedenthorn.GemIsles_GemIsles_0_1, 0_2. all depending on direction.

I wanted to target all maps that have been generated with aedenthorn.GemIsles_GemIsles*, I do not know if this logic exists, nor if it checks multiple maps and applies it to all that match, and updates oftently (since this mod lazy generates maps, so aedenthorn.GemIsles_GemIsles_1_3 wont exist until you get there by crossing aedenthorn.GemIsles_GemIsles_1_2)

[uncut viper]

not possible

[soft lance]

alr, ty for letting me know early on

[soft lance]

last question,

⁨```python

"{{ModId}}_SeaTurtle": {
"Id": "{{ModId}}_SeaTurtle",
"ItemId": "(O){{ModId}}_SeaTurtle",
"Condition": "LOCATION_Season Here Spring Summer"
},

When adding a pre-existing fish to a vanilla/custom map, but that map has both freshwater and ocean do i just add this property:

"Location": "Ocean" to it?

[uncut viper]

i have no idea how fish stuff works so dont look to me for answers

[soft lance]

a few modded locations (blue vineyard from SVE) has both freshwater and ocean-like water at the bottom

[lucid iron]

if they used LOCATION_FISH then they can fetch fish from another map

[soft lance]

i believe they didnt because some fish were put into the small water near the dock

thats why i wondered if me adding fish + making its location Ocean would target specifically any area body of water that is like an ocean

again, i am uncertain, just guesses

[hallow prism]

Try look at how vanilla does stuff in farm beach or in forest maybe

[soft lance]

It seems how SVE handles it is that it manually adds the fishes in, but seperates it with the "FishAreaID": "Ocean", property, which appears to be working flawlessly, same goes for "FishAreaID": "River", if your fish is suppose to go into any body of water with that property value

yay

[celest knoll]

in this example, is 305/306 fixed for any question or can you use any numbers?

or does it have to be unique in the game or something

[autumn tide]

you should use something prefixed with the ⁨{{ModId}}⁩ token

[celest knoll]

so would it be {{ModId}}_the number?

[devout otter]

(You don't need to use numbers, even)

[finite ginkgo]

Assuming you would like to check if a specific answer was chosen later on, you'd want it to be unique, which {{ModID}} guarantees, it doesn't have to be/have a number, it can be anything

[round timber]

id recommend using a descriptive string, like, for this example, {{ModId}}_summer_Fri

[celest knoll]

i see, thanks everyone :)

do i use 2 different values? since the example has 305/306, should i do {{ModId}}_something/{{ModId}}_something else? or does it not matter

[round timber]

yes

yes to two values i should say

[vernal crest]

You can use different values if it's important to track which answer is chosen, or the same value if it isn't.

[celest knoll]

alright, thank you!

[calm nebula]

Psst if it isnt necessary to know the choice later, $y is so much easier to use

[vernal crest]

But do be aware that there's no friendship changes with $y

[devout otter]

If only ⁨$y⁩ can contain ⁨$action⁩. 😔

[tender minnow]

does anyone happen to know the coordinates for brown egg (180) on springobjects? when following the coordinates on this link to replace it ( https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/SpringObjects_Coordinates ) it seems to replace hay instead....

[ornate locust]

Uh, Photoshop just tells me the coords my mouse is at, so I do that when I need them. gimme a sec

Regular brown egg or big brown egg?

I assume regular but double checking

[tender minnow]

the regular lil one

[ornate locust]

192 112

[tender minnow]

ill try that! thank you!

[tender minnow]

yup, that was it. thanks so much!

[ornate locust]

Looks like it and hay swapped?

[tender minnow]

looks like it. weird

[bold cairn]

For editing text added by another mod, for simple short lines I can do fairly easily with Content Patcher e.g. editing the description of another mod's custom Power in the player's Power page.

However for an Event added by another mod, if the way they add their custom Event with Content Patcher is using references to other files in that mod's folder, is the only way I can make any edits to the text in that Event by fully copying out all the text referenced by the mod's Event, or is there some way to "transclude" text from their other files?

E.G. they implement their custom Event in Content Patcher with:
⁨⁨ { //Andy's special order event "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Events/Custom_AndyHouse", "Entries": { "5407915/e 5404269": "kindadumbautumn/-500 -500/farmer 13 17 1 Andy 18 15 0/pause 1000/viewport 12 16 true/move farmer 3 0 0/move farmer 0 -2 0/pause 200/faceDirection farmer 1/pause 750/faceDirection Andy 3 true/pause 300/speak Andy \"{{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.01}}\"/pause 350/globalFade/viewport -1000 -1000/playSound stairsdown/changeLocation Custom_AndyCellar/playSound stairsdown/pause 500/warp farmer 8 5/warp Andy 6 5/faceDirection farmer 2 true/faceDirection Andy 2 true/viewport 7 7 true/pause 1800/emote farmer 16 true/pause 1250/speak Andy \"{{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.02}}\"/pause 750/faceDirection Andy 1 true/pause 600/faceDirection farmer 3 true/pause 500/speak Andy \"{{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.03}}\"/pause 500/move Andy 1 0 1/pause 400/shake Andy 500/showFrame Andy 37/pause 250/playSound newRecipe/showFrame Andy 38/pause 500/showFrame Andy 37 true/pause 200/move Andy 0 0 1/pause 300/playSound reward/message \"{{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.04}}\"/pause 250/emote farmer 32 true/pause 500/friendship Andy 250/globalFade/viewport -1000 -1000/stopMusic/pause 1000/end dialogue Andy \"{{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.05}}\"" } },⁩⁩
The text I want to edit is just a single number within the text of i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.04.
Is there some way I can indicate to Content Patcher that it should look in the i18n folder of a specific mod, instead of my own, in order to keep these references e.g. {{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.01}}? Otherwise it seems I must I fully transcribe the contents of i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.01 - 0.5, which seems a bit overboard, and possible might screw with translation?

[uncut viper]

You can edit individual sections of an event script, though its fragile as it can be broken easily if the other mod changes their event at all

[tiny zealot]

you cannot edit other mods' i18n data, though, since the game never sees it and content patcher does not expose such a thing

[uncut viper]

If your patch runs after theirs (via dependencies or load order or what have you) then those i18n tokens have already been turned into the actual text

[tiny zealot]

to modify a line in an event using i18n like this, you will have to provide your own copy of the line but with the change you want

[bold cairn]

Yeah I can successfully edit the text in the event currently, but right now the way I'm doing it requires fully transcribing all the text which seems a bit overkill.

[tiny zealot]

i suppose you could try to textoperations it

really it's just a different flavor of brittle at the end of the day

[bold cairn]

Yeah that's fair. I suppose the way I'm doing now, if the other mod does change things, the end user won't see those updated changes but at least the version they see will be a working one

Vs. me trying to just edit part of it

[uncut viper]

Well, no, if they change their event then your edit will just kinda break it

Because your patch would still run

It'd just then be editing the incorrect line

(This is assuming the changes they made to their event affect the order/number of lines leading up to the edited one)

There's no other way to identify which line you want to edit in a slash delimited string other than its number i.e. you want to edit the 7th section of the event

[bold cairn]

Ah, you mean if they change their event such that there no longer exists any ⁨"5407915/e 5404269"⁩ entry to be changed?

[uncut viper]

So if they update it and its no longer the 7th, then... yknow, issues

[vernal crest]

Just for future reference, the item id (180) is the sprite index so if you have a program that can show you sprite indexes (like Aseprite) you can just open up maps/springobjects and find that index.

And then you can find the coordinates of the top left of that frame

[uncut viper]

No I mean like if you are editing the 7th section of the event (after you split it up by its slashes), but then lets say they add another event command at the start to make an NPC move or emote or something, that means what was originally the 7th section is now the 8th section, but you would still be targeting the 7th section

[vernal crest]

I prefer TextOperations because if the event gets changed so that line doesn't exist anymore (in that exact permutation), your edit just won't run rather than still editing the (now incorrect) 7th field.

[bold cairn]

Ah OK I think I see.

That's not the current way I'm editing it, currently I am completely replacing the ⁨⁨⁨"5407915/e 5404269"⁩⁩⁩ Entry with my own. But as part of doing so I am also transcribing in the actual final text in place of things like ⁨⁨⁨{{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.01}}⁩⁩⁩

I was wondering if there was some way I could retain the references such as ⁨⁨⁨{{i18n:OrderEvent.Andy.01}}⁩⁩⁩ in my replacement Event, but its seeming like just fully replacing it like I'm doing now might be the simplest method.

[tender minnow]

ohhhh okay thanks!!!

[uncut viper]

If you are not editing a base SVE event, you need to make sure you have permission to do that

You're not allowed to just copy their event back in in your own mod without permission, as you didn't write the event, so it is not yours to redistribute without permission

You can use another mod, Cross-Mod Compatibility Tokens (CMCT) to use i18n from someone elses mod, but I would try the text operations or specific fields methods first

[devout otter]

Does ⁨TextOperations⁩ work with a ⁨speak⁩ field with i18n?

[uncut viper]

For their patch, the fact that its i18n is irrelevant since the token would already be resolved

[devout otter]

I mean like, if it has multiple languages?

[uncut viper]

Likely not, since for TextOperations to work you'd need to provide an exact text to match on

Unless you specifically put in the work to make your TextOperations patch also change depending on language

[bold cairn]

Yes I'd previously gotten their permission to make a compatibility patch, specifically for adjusting the number value of the various price buffs from their custom Powers (which is the number I want to change in the Event, to make the displayed number match the edited value of the price buff)

[uncut viper]

I would 100% ask them to make sure you have permission to redistribute their event, though. That's much different from adjusting prices

[ornate locust]

and that's why I had to end up counting until I got to the single field I wanted to replace in an event and it sucked

[devout otter]

Pls 1.6.16 come quickly.

[bold cairn]

OK I see.

In that case maybe I will try to do the Text Operation or Field modifications instead, if that's less intrusive?

[vernal crest]

No, it's vulnerable there. I'd still personally prefer to do the extra work to make it work with translations (like Button said, changing the patch depending on language) because I prefer the silent failure over having it potentially completely break another mod's event but that's definitely just personal preference.

[bold cairn]

I tend to need to update my compatibility patch for big changes to their mod anyways, so wouldn't be a huge extra work for me to need to keep an eye on this Event edit to keep it up to date with the other mod

[uncut viper]

I mean if you have their permission to just rewrite the whole event, that'd definitely be easiest It's just that you can't assume to have that permission

[ornate locust]

I never want to have to count fields again LOL

[devout otter]

Aa that's fair. I prefer loud failure because I'd more easily know there's something to fix and people would also report it quickly.

[ornate locust]

So what's coming in 1.6.16 that'd get around that? I thought being able to replace the i18n key might do it but if it resolves first, that's not going to help

[devout otter]

To my understanding, it gives the dialogues within events their own keys. So yo can just reference the key.

[ornate locust]

I just hard counted on this one because I don't know of anything else that'd change this event, and I needed to replace text

[devout otter]

(It doesn't work with moded events that don't do that, obviously.)

[ornate locust]

So it might not help for vanilla events unless they also add that.

[uncut viper]

They are consolidating the vanilla events

Every event will just have one Event now not Event, Event.ja-JP, Event.de-DE, etc

[devout otter]

Vanilla events rework is like the big 1.6.16 thing. So it should work.

[bold cairn]

OK if there are ways to make the change that don't require copying their Event I think I'd like to exhaust those options first.

I'm guessing a ⁨ReplaceDelimited⁩ TextOperation in Content Patcher is what I'd want to find & replace the specific number I want to be different?

[devout otter]

On the flipside, it would probably kinda break any current mod that edits vanilla events.

[uncut viper]

ReplaceDelimited can work if what you're trying to replace only shows up first, last, once, or you don't care if every instance of it is replaced

Edits to vanilla events shouldnt break

[ornate locust]

Oh like with strings?

[devout otter]

They're doing away with forking, right? Which I imagine would break any field counting?

[ornate locust]

I mean, they wouldn't be using the content patcher {{i18n}} stuff, so it's not a token, you're replacing something stored in a string or something

[uncut viper]

Forking is just deprecated, not being removed

I see what you mean now though,so it depends then

If someone was editing a single line in vanilla then it probably will break the events but if they were replacing the whole event then theyre safe, I thought you only meant the latter, my bad!

[devout otter]

Yeah basically all vanilla event dialogue should have their own separate string now. So no more field counting for them.

[ornate locust]

yeeeeeessssss

excellent

sorry, think I turned into Beast Wars era Megatron for a second there

[autumn tide]

I'm happy they're killing off event forks

also so cool seeing the new junis out and about aaa

[dry forum]

Guys.. would making a mod that displays fashion sense outfits on mannequins be too ambitious an endeavour for someone that has never looked at a line of code in their life

[quasi dew]

feeling super dumb. I want to add a new sprite sheet (or even just a single sprite) to the game. I know how to replace things, but not how to add new ones—do I just need to "load" it?

[quasi dew]

doesn't sound terribly hard! the bigger question for that type of mod is "do you like editing pixel art?"

[gentle rose]

(I assume they meant doing so automatically with c#, which would be a little difficult actually but involve no art editing)

[quasi dew]

oh nvm then

I'm living in my little CP world.

[dry forum]

Wait tell me more about the content patcher option 👀

I wouldn't mind editing thousands of clothes 🤭

[inland rain]

I feel like this must already be a mod - showing chest contents on hover, but I can't find one

I've made this mod twice now (oops!), so I guess there must be a reason I didn't publish it the first time... does anyone know of such a mod?

[haughty charm]

There are mods that show labels on hover, but not the contents

At least not that I know of

[quasi crow]

Never seen one that does that personally. Not terribly in the loop atm though.

oh, nevermind theres this apparently
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/13946

[inland rain]

that's it! now I remember lol

ty

[haughty charm]

I didn't know about that one! Thank you!

Interesting....mod details say it shows vanilla items; does it show mod-added items?

[quasi crow]

doesn't look like it. theres a bug report about it having some issues with books too

and showing modded items as weeds

[brittle pasture]

(if your version doesnt have those bugs then Id say it's worth uploading)

[fresh tree]

Hey guys How are u? I need some help please...

This is a 2-heart event I created for my NPC. At the end, she should look down, but instead, she simply walks to the right and disappears.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JCxj_TPDJhQY5-UQ4CzsD9c7Z15pnC9t/view?usp=drivesdk

[vernal crest]

Yes, you should Load it to a unique Target (like ⁨{{ModId}}_FuzzyStonesTexture⁩ or whatever - the important part is the ⁨{{ModId}}_⁩) and then use that Target in the Texture field for the data edit.

[brittle sedge]

Wrong place, sorry y'all

[autumn tide]

hey! could you please share your log or json? lemme do the commands one sec...

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[autumn tide]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[inland rain]

it's funny the first time I made it I went all complicated, probably like what the existing mod is doing... with the one I just made, I just draw an inventory menu and let the game do its thing which ofc works with all items

[autumn tide]

ooh love your mods Erinthe

[soft lance]

Does anyone know how to make a data edit have a low priority?

or this is possibly some other issue

When editing fish for east scarp, it sadly says the map does not exist

however, once the game loads (which takes a bit), and I warp with the same name, its there, also whereami also shows the same data

i am oddly guessing that the mod is loading after ASF does, I dont believe there is another explanation I know of as of yet

[vernal crest]

You want the Priority field in the Advanced fields table and you will want your edit to be ⁨Late⁩ so it comes after ESR. https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#overview

[soft lance]

thank you! also, is it possible that just this patch comes later, or does this property affect my whole mod

[lucid mulch]

you put the priority on the patch itself

[soft lance]

awesome alrighty

[lucid mulch]

the "affecting the whole mod" would be to have the false dependency thing in the manifest

[soft lance]

oh i meant as in would the priority field make the whole mod start later, or just make that specific patch later, thankfully it seems it only applies to that specific patch

[lucid iron]

If u r making it remember to cap it in case someone has unlimited inventory installed

[brittle sedge]

Seems if I want a mod I love to work with 1.6 I need to update it myself. Does anybody have any general advice on how I could go about that?

[inland rain]

idk what that means, but wouldn't InventoryMenu do its thing anyway?

[soft lance]

What type of mod is it?

[brittle sedge]

A mod that replaces Clint

[vernal crest]

That is what SinZ was answering. It will only affect that one patch.

[lucid iron]

This mod i mean https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30323

But yeah maybe it just works/10 i dunno

[brittle sedge]

The Bye Clint, Hello Clarice mod to be exact. It was pointed out to me that it hasn't been updated since 2019, and it also doesn't work with SVE's Railroad Boulder Quest. Both things I intend to attempt to change

[vernal crest]

If this is the Clint to Clarice mod you asked about before, it's an easy fix to stop the error about the exclusive blacksmith file load (just edit the Clarice mod to add ⁨"Priority": "Low"⁩ to that patch on the line below the "FromFile" line). I cannot advise you about the railroad though because I'd need much more information about what SVE's quest is, in which way it breaks, if you get any errors in your log, etc.

[brittle sedge]

Oooh! That I can do. And it's just the fact that since both want exclusive priority, it loads neither's map.

[inland rain]

my philosophy is it always just works as long as no one posts a bug report.

[brittle sedge]

It loads the mods, just refuses to load the SVE map and let me place the supplies into the box

[vernal crest]

Yep, so by giving one of them low priority it just won't load that one. If you want them to actually work together it will need much more work, because you will need to completely overhaul Clarice's map to be an edit to the SVE one instead.

[brittle sedge]

That's gonna require more skill than I currently have, so I think I'll give one of them low priority.

Might work on trying to do that on the side as I learn more and get better at modding, but for now a quick fix will do

[brittle sedge]

Is this right?

"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Maps/Blacksmith",
"FromFile": "assets/Map/Blacksmith.tbin",
"Priority": "Low",

Hell yeah

[inland rain]

works with big chests too

[brittle pasture]

if you havent test with autograbbers and autofertilizer sprinkler attachments as well (they are cursed non-Chest BCs that have storage)

[haughty charm]

Also buildings, like the Mill, that have storage. I know VMV has one similar building

[inland rain]

it only works with Chests

[haughty charm]

I'll take it

[lucid mulch]

the fridge is sometimes considered a chest

[inland rain]

I've made it so it can also show if you just walk up to a chest, no need to hover

fridges are chests I think

[haughty charm]

I'm more concerned about my gazillion chests than my single fridge, so that's a huge boon, imo

[lucid mulch]

it was a way to cheese my AutomateChests restriction as I didn't restrict the fridge so you could use it to do automate early

[inland rain]

mini fridges are

the farmhouse fridge is not

[ornate locust]

you ever just...

start putting up fire extinguishers

[uncut viper]

shouldnt the extinguisher be somewhere away from the source of the fire

are you also making a fire extinguisher furniture so i can feel safer in my own farmhouse too

[ornate locust]

Pelican Town Municipal sends one out actually. Has one of the wall ones in the shop

[uncut viper]

fire safety is now my number one priority

[ornate locust]

I saw someone say they went around town putting those in people's houses and I was like "actually that's not a bad idea"

the left wall kinda various with various mods, so I picked that spot to be more out of the way

[brittle pasture]

of every place that needs it the most marnie's ranch takes the top spot

[ornate locust]

Marnie's gettin one, yep

I'm opening up vanilla/SVE/LUTI side by side to place em

I've done soooo many compatibility bits for other maps, trying to avoid too many in this

(I'm sure some will still come up, but "just move it out of the way" is a viable solution for most of them at least)

sneaky floor one behind the counter (so many things touch the back wall). It's ready to protect the books

but also there's a fireplace in the museum so there's one on that end

[devout otter]

I am looking into this page and near the bottom there's a "Spouse dialogue" section. https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Changing_Generic_Dialogue:_NPC.cs_lines

Am I right in assuming that those would only fire if the NPC doesn't have ⁨⁨MarriageDialogue⁩⁩ data?

[low marlin]

How can we define custom children’s gender in an HMK content pack (as per the mod’s page, it is said that the Boy/Girl Modes will be ignored and “uses the gender defined by the content pack”)?

[dusk mulch]

is there a framework that lets CP mods add custom junimo bundles to their own locations?

[devout otter]

The documentation for the framework has all the how-to's. For this, the relevant section should be ⁨ChildData⁩ https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/blob/main/docs/000-overview.md

[brittle pasture]

Unlockable Bundles

[dusk mulch]

tysm!

[merry river]

I have never seen any of these in use by any custom NPC who has defined marriage dialogue lines, to say the very least but then again, I don't do marriage much

would be weird if those got injected regardless but that's where my knowledge ends

[vagrant grove]

Has anyone set up Pathos mod building thing yet?

[royal stump]

it depends on which ones you're referring to, since they're technically separate mechanics
but from what I've seen so far, they can all happen for NPCs with marriage dialogue

[merry river]

oof

[royal stump]

the "kitchen tile is obstructed" will notably interrupt some other dialogue about childen/pregnancy and such

[blissful panther]

I wish I could say I had, but I already had my own.

[low marlin]

How does it work, exactly?

And on another note, for a custom HMK child NPC - Do we actually need the waving arms and sitting sprites like a toddler’s sprites?

[royal stump]

things like going to the patio or talking about kids have higher priority, but otherwise the unhappiness stuff works as mentioned

[merry river]

mod building thing?

[royal stump]

a C# auto-build setup for github code, basically

(vs making and uploading your mod files manually)

[merry river]

oh, that's neat

[devout otter]

Yar, the "I just redecorated" lines and the "I just watered your crops" I think have no equivalents.

[royal stump]

and iirc Pathos is still working on having it do code-signing stuff so anti-virus doesn't complain about new versions

[devout otter]

But there's some like... the "kitchen tile is obstructed" one has ⁨⁨⁨⁨SpouseFarmhouseClutter⁩⁩⁩⁩ as its ⁨⁨⁨⁨Data/Dialogues/⁩⁩⁩⁩ equivalent. And in case of "heart less than 14" ones in Strings vs. the Good/Neutral/Bad lines in MarriageDialogues, which one gets decided?

[blissful panther]

Even Pathos wouldn't recommend using his thing currently though, anyway. It's still in development, so it's probably going to break as he updates it until it hits a solid 1.0.

And yeah, he's in the process of getting code signing set up for SMAPI!

[lucid iron]

psh i used it and it worked fine

but it's kind of eh if i cant go all the way to a gh release

[blissful panther]

Oh, does it not have a release step yet?

Yeah, it doesn't. I didn't even realise it didn't have that yet.

[royal stump]

(poking around to figure out where it checks those keys, but the main ⁨marriageDuties()⁩ dialogue thing is 550 lines long and kinda vague, so we'll see )

[soft lance]

Helllo!

I was wondering if my categorization for my upcoming (in a month) 1.2 update is good, or should I make it more simple? Or shorter, just wanted feedback

Custom Fish Integration
(Hand-placed fish spawns & locations)

Stardew Valley Expanded (Fable Reef)
Grampleton Fields
East Scarp
Downtown ZuZu
Return to Mineral Town
Axolotl Village
Lilybrook
Ecosystem Superpack Expansion
Cape Stardew
Echo Reef
Northwest Coast

Compatibility Verified
(No conflicts, no overwrites, fully tested)

Ridgeside View
Sunberry Village
Lunna
Baldur's Village
Nature In The Valley
Dead Boy Detectives
Night Market Expansion
FIASA

[blissful panther]

I feel like this is where you don't want to be lax on the details!

[vernal crest]

Looks good to me, though do you maybe intend to have "Ridgeside Village" instead of "Ridgeside View"? If you're worried about your page being too long, you could put each list in a spoiler tag to collapse it.

[soft lance]

its nearly 1 am, lol i should look at this in the morning, thanks for catching that. and thanks for the idea!

[royal stump]

okay, so to oversimplify, the generic unhappiness lines are probably more likely just because the neutral/bad stuff is at the very end of everything

but the math for pulling a generic unhappy line is like:
⁨ int minHeartLevelForNegativeDialogue = 12; -1 if you gave them a gift yesterday -1 if you kissed yesterday⁩
and then the random chance of it actually happening is ⁨hearts / that number⁩, e.g. 50% if you're somehow at 6 hearts with your spouse and didn't interact recently, etc

if you get past that and all the other dialogue keys, basically, it'll finally check the affection_random key, which seems really low priority

so for people who lose relationship with their spouses, I'd probably trust the spouse dialogue stuff to happen as documented there, short of really pouring over the math

(ps to clarify, it is more likely if you're low, so like 0 hearts = guaranteed generic complaint, 9/12 = 25%, etc)

[devout otter]

I see. Thank you for checking it! Seems like Erinthe's Custom Fixed Dialogue is still super important for NPC's with unusual speech, then.

[royal stump]

I guess in practical terms, if someone sits at 10 relationship with their spouse without those interactions, there'd be like a 16% chance per day of loading a generic complaint line

not counting patio days and child-related stuff, etc

(also it takes a week after marriage to start checking some/all of those)

[fierce vault]

Anyone know why vscode does not let me keep my own json files open when I search for contents in another folder (content unpacked) and vise versa? I want to keep a vanilla event open while I build my own, but it doesn't want to let me do that, seemingly because of how opened the file?

I don't even have time to work on an event anymore right now after all the set up I had to do, but I'd like to fix the issue for when I will be able to again. 😅

[west thunder]

I wonder now.

Can I have textures for a monster loaded via the Load and Monster Variety way simultaneously?

I'm saying this because as far as I know, event and festival instances of monsters don't get their textures changed if they're using the Monster Variety method.

But I want my crackhead shadow brutes to show up in Spirit's Eve.

[vernal crest]

If you just click once on the file you should see that its file name at the top of the tab is in italics. That means it's in preview mode and it will close when you click on another file. If you double click when you're opening or if you edit something in it, the file name will be normal and it will stay open when clicking on another file.

[west thunder]

wait are you seriouslerious abt the monster thing

Wouldn't that cause some conflicts in the system?

[vernal crest]

Yes I was serious. No it shouldn't cause any conflicts, it just doesn't show the vanilla textures when MV is working (unless you give all your variants conditions that mean that there's a chance none of them will apply, in which case the monster will be vanilla). Our mods are incompatible with regular monster retexture mods simply because MV stops the vanilla texture from being chosen usually, not because anything will break. If you're right that MV doesn't apply to festival monsters (which I've never thought to check) then the vanilla texture should just be used. Edit that vanilla texture and voila, yours is seen.

[west thunder]

So nothing stops me from just loading a bunch of the ones that appear in events and festivals via the old fashioned way?

Bet.

[vernal crest]

Nope.

[west thunder]

Thanks, bestie!!!

[low marlin]

Why are some crop sprites have 2 seed images (like this one from SBV (?) for example)?

How can I randomise the seed's appearance between those two?

[vernal crest]

All crop sprites should have two frames for the seeds, even if the sprites in them are the same. As for how to randomise between them - you can't control that at all. It's hardcoded based on the tile coordinates that the player places the seed onto.

[lucid mulch]

iirc alternative textures can be used to randomize textures for crop instances

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/1F5rg8E.png

what in tarnation

why is this box so big

[fresh tree]

sorry i fall asleep https://smapi.io/log/3aa518fc4f0840f0bdbd1bc206aab236

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.26200.0), with 69 C# mods and 132 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[subtle condor]

Finally I did it XD I managed to change all the game's code to increase the total walnut count XD I consider myself the Nutman now

[proud wyvern]

sounds like a lot of transpilers

[subtle condor]

Not at all, I did everything via postfixes and only some prefixes. It was surprisingly managable XD

[proud wyvern]

hopefully not bool prefixes!

[subtle condor]

Maybe like one of those. But dw, my mod is rather for personal use XD If I really decide to publish it, I'll look further into how to to stuff more safely

[lucid iron]

I thought u can just spawn golden walnut as ordinary item

I.e. totally possible to make a shop sell them

[subtle condor]

Unfortunately it's not that easy. Basically as soon as you have 130 walnuts, the game prevents you from actually obtaining any further walnuts. And then there's a bunch of other stuff like having to adjust the golden parrot oe changing the perfection tracker. And then there are some weird code snippets like for example the Island field Office doesn't give you walnuts for donations when you have 130 walnuts. Instead it gives you alternative items like a cooking set or tent set. And I added hints for my walnuts at the jungle hut parrot XD so a bunch of small stuff XD

[lucid iron]

Yeah there's one mod that adds a golden walnut plant

And it unlocks in the qi room

Sidestepping the problem

[subtle condor]

Yeah, as long as you don't go above the 130 golden walnuts, you're pretty much free to go XD

[lucid iron]

The thing is i am pretty sure u can go above the number if it's a new way to gain golden walnut

[calm nebula]

debug fin walnut

(Jkjjkkjjjk)

[subtle condor]

Well, so basically there is only this code that actively prevents you from collecting more:
⁨public void foundWalnut(int stack = 1) { if (Game1.netWorldState.Value.GoldenWalnutsFound < 130) { Game1.netWorldState.Value.GoldenWalnuts += stack; Game1.netWorldState.Value.GoldenWalnutsFound += stack; Game1.PerformActionWhenPlayerFree(showNutPickup); } }⁩
And this is super easy to edit. So if you ignore the golden parrot and the perfection tracker thing, I guess it is fairly simple to go above 130. I think the only actual gameplay problem would be that you might not be able to collect the walnuts from the field office. Might be fine though if you add a way to infinitely get them

I don't know though when this code gets triggered. Meaning, you might be able to not trigger it if you could harvest them from a plant or buy them from a shop or something. I only know that ⁨⁨debug item 73⁩⁩ (the walnut id) and collecting it on the map triggers that code

[lucid iron]

I can see how this holds the stat but yes but it doesn't prevent you from getting the item itself (if it's spawned)

Do correct me if im wrong here

[celest knoll]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8a859ae6c53f475eb640368e7d66dfcf
can someone check what's wrong with line 112 and 113?? i cant tell that anythings wrong but smapi wont load it and the validator says its wrong...

[wraith bay]

saw this post announced this morning on the nexus mod authors discord, wanted to drop it here for fellow cheetos who might not keep an eye on all that. this'll probably not effect 99% of people, but if you have anyone reporting update issues in the next few weeks it'll probably be good to know this is going on/report on it while they make this change to update chains

[wraith bay]

you're missing a comma on 110

[vernal crest]

In addition to what Jenna said, you're missing an entire dialogue key for line 137. You have the value but not the key.

[lucid iron]

What does a bad update chain cause rn?

It's probably not very visible in sdv cus smapi has a separate update check

[subtle condor]

I don't know either how exactly it works, but as far as I understood correctly, the game basically triggers the function OnItemReceived and if you have the case of (O)73, meaning the walnut, the game calls the function I sent in earlier and removes the item from the inventory again. So I think it might always prevent you from obtaining it, no matter what, because it works as soon as the game tries to put it into your inventory. So under normal circumstances, I think you might actually never be able to obtain more than 130 (You can only get multiple in one go to get above 130)

[wraith bay]

well per their visualization, if you got updated onto the 1.3.1 branch and the cheeto updated branch 2.0.0 you might not get an update notification in vortex/mo2 (significant bc a lot of esl users use mo2 based on my interactions with the translators). obviously smapi would still spit rhymes, but it would require the user remove their copy of the mod and reinstall to the new branch. its a real pain in the pattootie when you run into it

for the user it can just feel like 'omg why do i have to go to website, mod managers suck it should just do this'

[lucid iron]

Yeah I am the type who don't mind doing that

And put up github releases too

[wraith bay]

i think this is a good change, but i think it only really comes up bc the nexus upload ui is so weird. having a ui solution where you can adjust the chains after upload will be net positive for sure.

[lucid iron]

So far i think i have done the update chain correctly? maybe??

I thought the upload new version button is just shortcut to move the prev file to old version after upload lol

[wraith bay]

i can tell you that most people (myself included) fuck it up fairly often. the fact that the replace option is not on by default is a little :\

i think the convenience layer is how most authors experience it, but yeah there is more going on behind the scenes. i think they overcomplicate the file system, but i have a limited scope ya know? other games have other needs im sure.

[vernal crest]

I always have to do it, then go check the mod page, then go back and fix it if I've messed up lol

(Though I can't say whether I think this upcoming change is any better because I don't have permission to see the post xD)

[wraith bay]

I think you should be able to if you're logged in? You might need a mod author flag on your account but not afaik

If you still can't lemme know and i'll ask picky to fix tho ❤️

[blissful panther]

Seems like a good change overall, though!

[vernal crest]

I am sadly not a recognised mod author on Nexus because I don't have enough UDLs yet

I spend too much time faffing around and not enough time actually releasing mods lol

[wraith bay]

haha ahh that might be it then. i think you probably have the gist of it from what's been said here tho.

[vernal crest]

Yeah and I'm sure it'll get discussed more as well

[wraith bay]

/me remembers i can print to pdf

[vernal crest]

Thanks! Seems good to me. We can still have separate AT and CP files in the same mod page etc, there will hopefully just be less of the "there are 3 different main files and they're all different versions of the same mod, why???" - maybe?

[blissful panther]

(Also, this is a damn crime. )

[vernal crest]

Maybe I can show them how many people's mod page credits sections I'm in and they can make me a special role /j

[celest knoll]

? what am i meant to add?

[verbal narwhal]

Mhmmmm. Probably a very obvious superfluous question: but moddata/global app data is also synched in MP right?

[celest knoll]

nvm figured it out

[brittle pasture]

if you mean the SMAPI feature for saving per-player global data locally no I don't think so

if you mean modData the net field on the game's various types then yes it's synced

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #7203 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1467898365651193928)

[verbal narwhal]

Mhmm moddata net fields synced means here that they can stay unique for each farmer, regardless of main player and be accessed for each farmer as its own?

[lucid iron]

Each farmer is a different entity so they have different modData and you can read another farmer's modData by acquiring their instance first

Global app data is completely local to each client

[verbal narwhal]

Ohh nice, mod data it is then, thanks!!

[calm nebula]

Just fyi since farmer sync is a bit different

Things off of farmer are special in that each farmer can write to themselves

And host can write to an offline farmer

[lucid iron]

if the data isn't something that needs sync constantly I usually just use multiplayer mod message

[gentle rose]

why is this mod authors only? how strange

[gentle rose]

Picky very kindly moved it to Site Updates so it should be viewable by anyone who wants to see it now

[subtle condor]

Now I actually found a way to work without bool prefixes at all. I only have one prefix in general (no bool, original code always runs) and other than that only postfixes XD

[zenith schooner]

Hello, does anyone know how to create a custom NPC?

[calm nebula]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[celest knoll]

is there any reason why the game wont load in my dialogue?

theres nothing wrong with my code and i cant patch export it either

[gentle rose]

can we see your code?

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[celest knoll]

dialogue or content

[gentle rose]

both

[tiny zealot]

sometimes a bool prefix is necessary! but if you can avoid them, good on you for doing so

[celest knoll]

dialogue: https://smapi.io/json/none/91c6ad8091fb45a5afb2ecb8c9dc8d44
content: https://smapi.io/json/none/4dbdc5c8c2e54082be9d7837d7521b96

i haven finished all the dialogue yet... if that affects it?

[gentle rose]

minor unrelated note but you have a typo in acceptbouqUet (that u is missing)

[celest knoll]

oop

[gentle rose]

and you’re sure the dialogue json is in assets/dialogue/dialogue.json? and have restarted the game?

[celest knoll]

yup

for resttart do you just mean exit n repoen

ive tried a lot, it hasnt worked

[gentle rose]

hmm, strange. can we get your smapi log?

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[celest knoll]

alright

oops

i didnt mean to do that

https://smapi.io/log/6a3b3f7079bc44a98a1940e37696ece9

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.2.0, with 10 C# mods and 4 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[gentle rose]

and you’re sure the file is saved and the version you’re editing is the one in the mods folder, right?

[celest knoll]

yep..

if i have marriage dialogue and schedule blank, it wouldnt cause any errors?

would other mods affect it?? i have custom fixed dialogue downloaded

ill try removing other mods and trying again

nope still doesnt work

[maiden citrus]

hey, does anyone know the best method to return all of the non passable tiles for a specific area without iterating through each tile to check?

[gentle rose]

I’m not sure there is one, what are you trying to do?

[maiden citrus]

im trying to create a path for automating, i just want to be able to check what paths are not blocked before moving to a tile, instead moving to a tile and being unable to move

[tiny zealot]

have you tried asking the pathfinding code to do it for you?

but at any rate that code checks the tiles as it goes, there's no stored collection of passable/impassable tiles that i know of

[maiden citrus]

I didn't know that there was one

thank you

although i think that might not work because it doesn't include mine levels? is that correct

[tiny zealot]

as long as the map is loaded it should work. check out PathFindController.cs for how to call it (you can make a new one or call ⁨.PathFind⁩ directly, but not sure which is best for your situation)

[lucid iron]

The underlying way is still going to be checking every tile

You can do a BFS tho

[gaunt orbit]

Hey @lucid iron you were the one who posted that cp pack spoofing thing, right?

[ornate locust]

and now the new fire extinguisher positions have been tested and confirmed showing up~

Fire safety be upon ye

[uncut viper]

from a few days ago, right? where the C# pack can also be a content pack? chu forwarded it, but from my thread since i was the one that did it

[gaunt orbit]

Yeah! Does that have to be run at a specific time during game setup, or does it work at any time? (asset lifecycle aside)

[uncut viper]

that example was specifically trying to be a Content Patcher pack, so it has to run before Content Patcher calls GetOwned() to get its packs

since CP does that only once

itd probably vary by framework

[gaunt orbit]

Ah, I see.

[uncut viper]

But since I had to harmony patch GetOwned() anyway which can be done in entry it shouldnt matter

[gaunt orbit]

So if I wanted to add packs to cp arbitrarily, I'd have to fuck with the internals

[uncut viper]

Well, with SMAPI's internals at least, since GetOwned is a smapi thing

But otherwise yeah, the only way to do it is by somehow getting it into its ContentPAckHelper's ContentPAcks list

or array rather

[gaunt orbit]

I mean I'd have to bypass standard packloading altogether, since cp wouldn't recheck it

[uncut viper]

Recheck it how, like for patch updates?

It did that fine iirc

Or were you trying to like, add a mod at runtime

[gaunt orbit]

I was investigating the possibility of adding mods at runtime, yes

[uncut viper]

then yeah thatd be very heavily dependent on the framework in question

and for CP would involve mucking about in internal code

You could try just invoking CP's GameLaunched stuff again

I didn't try that bc for me I was just trying a more general framework-agnostic proof of concept

But I don't know how much stuff would be broken by just calling it all again. Maybe a lot, maybe not?

[gaunt orbit]

I've been tinkering with my cp gui tool again and was trying to determine if there was a way to simplify or avoid altogether reloading the game when it's created at runtime

[uncut viper]

Is the tool for making mods, or using them?

[gaunt orbit]

I'm not like dead set on it or anything, just exploring ideas

[gaunt orbit]

Making mods

[uncut viper]

Hm

then while it wouldnt work for config or dynamic tokens, would it be good enough to just get away with reusing a dummy content pack you added at GameLaunched?

Like do the same thing I did in that snippet chu showed you, but then make that dummy pack point to whatever files you want, then invoke a ⁨patch reload⁩

[gaunt orbit]

That's an interesting idea

It would limit the user to a single new mod per game launch, but that might be sufficient

[uncut viper]

have you ever felt the desire to work on multiple different mods in a single game launch?

working on them simultaneously at that, not just shifting gears to a different mod entirely

i think its fine

[gaunt orbit]

Yeah, I might do that

Seems like a good solution

[lucid iron]

When i did smithy i considered doing this and then decided just installing actual new mod is better for my usecase

[uncut viper]

how did you get around needing to relaunch?

[lucid iron]

I didn't

I just had ui that said "relaunch game pls"

Because it seems better to test the mod as a real mod and avoid any issues induced by C# fuckery

But smithy is meant to produce a regular content pack that works without smithy installed

[gaunt orbit]

I wish c# had a way to relaunch that wasn't just "start a new process and hope there's no resource locks"

[lucid iron]

If u don't intend to have regular content pack as output then runtime make a pack is nice for avoiding filesystem shenanigans

[uncut viper]

for a mod making tool I suppose I'd agree with that

myself, though, i love C# fuckery

my preferred code to write is stuff that makes someone go "what the fuck"

[gaunt orbit]

I do too, but this is already a complicated project, and cp hackery would only make it worse

[uncut viper]

yeah but you're making an aforementioned mod making tool

so you have an excuse, so i wont revoke your c# fuckery license

[lucid iron]

Wren ur thing is going to just run game in the bg right

Without being a mod itself

[gaunt orbit]

Another thing I could potentially do is NOT load the mod at all and just replicate the content edits with c# pipeline stuff

[gaunt orbit]

It is a mod

It was originally standalone

But I figured everything would be easier if it had direct access to game data instead of having to duplicate it

[lucid iron]

Ah then a lot of the choices you face are similar

After actually doing the whole thing i think being able to kill and start the game again is actually pretty important

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #7207 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1467973986356039894)

[lucid iron]

I avoided dynamic tokens entirely because i knew i wasn't gonna be able to reload that

But the goal was "user never need to know about the json" so that was fine

[gaunt orbit]

Also to be clear I'm still doing questionable things. I wrote a bootleg source generator to output observable versions of all the gamedata classes so I could use them with stardewui

(bootleg in that it's not a proper source generator, it just reads the classes with reflection and prints cs files)

[uncut viper]

i dont have any questions about that

seems reasonable

[lucid iron]

I do want to go back n add more options to smithy but the thought of ux hell again so soon is stopping me

Also cus I feel like i overfit the ui for furniture

[gaunt orbit]

going back through my code and I forgot about this lol

[lucid iron]

What is scope of ur ambitions wren?

[gaunt orbit]

objects, crops, giant crops, trees (wild & fruit), machines
maybe animals & buildings? maybe fish?

[lucid iron]

Exciting

[gaunt orbit]

I don't want to do npcs because they are SO complicated

[lucid iron]

I think stuff like machines is really hard to do without teaching user some bit of the structure tho

[uncut viper]

if you leave a C# modder alone long enough eventually they will make a tool or perhaps some sort of device or helper

[patent lance]

New quote added by tlitookilakin as #7208 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1467977234068410470)

[lucid iron]

It's like shelf fungi

[uncut viper]

i love being compared to shelf fungi, thank you

[lucid iron]

Well the tool is shelf fungi while i am a decomposing tree

[gentle rose]

I will join you in being a decomposing tree

[gaunt orbit]

machines are pretty complicated, but I think they're kind of a necessary component of this kind of thing

otherwise you're limited to just crafting/cooking

or default recipes like wine

[uncut viper]

if you are a helper yourself, are you not both tree and fungi?

[lucid iron]

making-mods-koan

[brittle pasture]

for machines honestly having ability to specify input rules and output items is sufficient for 99.95% of use cases

also speaking of machines someone just reported the wackiest issue i had ever heard of with my silkworm racks and i dont even know how i would even reproduce this
(i use rather criminal, but still pure CP, methods of work animation/sheet index manipulation controlled by the presence of a context tag on the output item, and my only lead so far is that AT/Automate/etc. is improperly resetting the sprite index somehow)

oh well, for now I'll file that under "works on my machine"

[uncut viper]

but your machine is the silkworm rack

so does it really work on your machine

[old edge]

Is there a swimming bug with item extensions mod?

[hallow prism]

no idea, but you may want to provide context

[opaque field]

Peeked into the fields of mistria modding channel and it made me so grateful we have all the tools we do. ❤️

So close to finishing my cream cheese modddd (I say, as I am aware I think I said this at least a week ago)

[fierce vault]

Thank you Aba, I'll give this a try later!

[fading walrus]

I suppose their tools will improve once the game leaves early access!

[opaque field]

That would be awesome! Unfortunately I think part of the complication comes from the game being made in gamemaker which is from my understanding pretty hard to mod for. Crossing my fingers and lurking to learn until then :p

[tranquil surge]

Is there a JSON validator for CFL files? Specifically the CFL_Map.json or Content.json files?
The pinned one is seemingly only for CP, Manifest, and Translation JSONs it seems.

[brittle pasture]

the json validator will check any json file you give it for validity

what it doesnt do is check that you're using the right fields

[wary merlin]

Hi! I'm completely new to modding stardew valley and currently reading all the docs on SMAPI. Since I'm not so familiar with how stardew valley works just yet, I wanted to ask if it even was possible achieving what I want, which is making a custom clothing/equip slot for a custom item type?

Does SMAPI allow those kind of modifications?

[brittle pasture]

SpaceCore allows adding custom equipment slots

you do need to know some C# but SC does most of the hard work for you

[wary merlin]

That's great, thanks!

[tranquil surge]

Hmm... Well I keep getting one SMAPI error in particular when trying to get my custom farm map working fully (read a LOT more of the wiki).

[Custom Farm Loader] At DailyUpdates[4] -> 'Type'
[Custom Farm Loader] Failed to parse cfl_map.json at 'DailyUpdates' in path:
[Custom Farm Loader] GrayFarm/cfl_map.json
[Custom Farm Loader] Requested value 'SpawnMountainFarmOreRect' was not found.

What I'm not understanding is that I very much have that value listed in the file it's pointing to, yet for some reason it's not registering it? What am I missing/doing wrong?

I can post the json here if it can help me figure out what I'm missing too...

[brittle pasture]

feel free to post your code for more eyeballs on it, but Im not familiar with CFL

[tranquil surge]

Here's the code file. As far as I can tell from the wikis, this should be working...

[brittle pasture]

(can you use smapi.io/json? thanks!)

hmm I'm looking at the CFL wiki and SpawMountainFarmOreRect doesnt look like a valid type?

[tranquil surge]

My bad!
https://smapi.io/json/none/53c17b68adc04d23ba55f207d01bdce8

[tranquil surge]

Yet the error code is saying that it's not found... And deleting that doesn't change the error code either for some reason...

[brittle pasture]

(there is SpawnQuarryRocks)

uh make sure you actually saved and reload the file?

[tranquil surge]

Yup. Saving the edits, then using the cfl reload command in SMAPI and it's been helping me work out the bugs in my code.

But this particular bug is eluding me...

Does the CFL Reload command not actually reload the content? Do I need to close the game and open it again?

... I'm a fool. lol
Seems the SMAPI command to refresh the content doesn't update to the new code.
Thanks for helping!

Ohp, nevermind. Still not working. Now my custom map isn't loading in correctly anymore... Goodness

[fierce vault]

I think there are specific issues related to it being early access when it comes to modding the game. It will probably get easier in the following years

[opaque field]

OOoh, that would definitely be awesome 😄

[latent mauve]

Custom map should be spitting out an error code in the console if it's broken, in most cases

[tranquil surge]

Well I'm not getting any error codes, but the map that I'm trying to overlay simply isn't loading in now...

I'm guessing it's something to do with the location of the map file, so I'm testing that out now..

[gaunt orbit]

Pssst you don't need cfl for custom farms, you can just use content patcher

[tranquil surge]

How much of my code would I need to change to get that working though? All of it?

[gaunt orbit]

Not much. There's a template on the wiki, and also on nexus mods I think

[[Modding:Farm_data]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Farm_data

[tranquil surge]

Well, if I can't get this working in CFL with this next attempt, I guess I'll switch...

Wellp, still nothing is spawning, so I guess I'm swapping to CP...

[pallid patio]

For some reason when trying to add a door to my map, I cant get the cursor to interact with it even though everything on tiled looks to be correct

[gaunt orbit]

Like a warp door or an interior door?

[pallid patio]

interior

i have the action door property on the tile, which worked on my other map but for some reason on this one I can't get it to be interactable

[latent mauve]

do you also have the Map Property for Doors?

[pallid patio]

yes

[latent mauve]

You need both Tile Property and the Map Property for doors to work correctly

Is your Action Door tile property on the Buildings layer?

And do you have the bottom tile of the door itself on the Buildings layer?

[pallid patio]

wait im a genius

i spelled door wrong

[soft lance]

When editing the target's fields, is it possible to define multiple maps, and change all of their "Fish" field? Or do I have to copy and paste this 5 times if i wanted it to be applied to 5 different maps

[calm nebula]

This seems like a great use for lcal tokens

[soft lance]

What those?

im just adding support for other mods to add my fish into them, and this mod has a lot of maps I wanted to add, but i didnt want to keep copying and pasting same code for each map

[urban patrol]

oh lucy you're here, i was just about to reply to a comment by you on nexus

you shouldn't be telling mod authors to make their format 2.8.0 instead of 2.9.0; you should update your content patcher instead

[autumn tide]

hellooo I may have fucked up one sec

!log

ohh yay it's not my mod!!

[urban patrol]

(claude, you can use commands in governors mansion for personal use to keep things clean)

[autumn tide]

-# oh shit sorry

[urban patrol]

all good, i just wanted to make sure you were aware!

[soft lance]

hey, i think my comment got misunderstood, i wasn’t saying authors shouldn’t use. just that if they don’t need anything from it yet, 2.8.0+ is easier for more users. updating isn’t hard, it’s just an extra step, only a suggestion for accessibility

[urban patrol]

gotcha, i thought you were implying the mod being broken was the mod author's fault. glad to see you know what the issue is!

[brittle pasture]

You should always use the latest format version (currently 2.9.0) to enable the latest features, avoid obsolete behavior, and reduce startup time.

[urban patrol]

but yeah as selph says updating mods (especially pathos' mods, which are extremely stable) is always a good idea

[soft lance]

100%

what's a lcal token? im very interested in it, it may help reduce repetitibe copy and pasted fish code for multiple maps

[urban patrol]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#local-tokens

[soft lance]

ooooo, i get what this does..thanks!

[uncut viper]

Content Patcher 2.9.0 is not available for Android. If you care about Android support and don't use the new features from 2.9.0, you should stick to 2.8.0

(For PC users and PC only mods there is of course no good reason not to update as already mentioned)

[soft lance]

I tried this for the local tokens

the local tokens not entirely working just yet (im still learning them)

old version without it worked, new doesnt, im not entirely certain what i did wrong, but i am still learning how these local tokens work

[lucid mulch]

what did 2.9 do to break android compat

[uncut viper]

Android SMAPI doesn't have the new Mask mode for image editing

[lucid mulch]

right yeah it depends on new smapi and android is a fork

[hollow dust]

hello, do you guys know how to fix this kinda errors?

https://smapi.io/log/ef4fbea8a8f642bfbdd24a849034938c

it's a permission issue on mac I think

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.5.0, with 0 C# mods and 0 content packs.

[lucid iron]

looks like that stardrop issue

[lucid mulch]

wouldn't stardrop tell smapi to run on a different mod folder full of symlinks, that looks like a direct mods foler access

[fierce vault]

So, the stardew syntax extension is what will help me fix this nightmare, right? 😵‍💫

[vernal crest]

You mean multi line it? Yep

[fierce vault]

Vanilla events are so intimidating in their final form!

[vernal crest]

When you say it doesn't work, what do you mean is or is not happening?

[urban patrol]

i would test it + i18n it first!

i'm not sure if nomori's converter takes multiline events

[fierce vault]

Oh, that reminds me... should I be i18n-ing as I try to figure out the event basics??

[vernal crest]

Nomori's i18nifier works really well for events in my experience so if you're happy with how it does the keys or you're comfortable in how to find and replace the keys you can use that at the end

[urban patrol]

yeah i always i18n with the converter at the very end

[vernal crest]

Otherwise it probably is worth doing i18n as you go because it's a real pain to do it all manually at the end

[autumn tide]

hey! what's the console command to check the patches applies to a specifc area of the games code?

[vernal crest]

It does! And if it doesn't work, the Stardew Syntax extension switches between single and multi line

[fierce vault]

Thanks, that's good to know!

[urban patrol]

oh nice!

[vernal crest]

Like ⁨patch summary full asset "maps/beach"⁩?

[urban patrol]

patch summary asset assetname

[autumn tide]

ALSO it's really cool seeing you green Abagaianye

that's the one! thank you :)

what would the asset asset name thing be? just the file path from unpacked content?

[fierce vault]

I have LINQpad on my desktop, which I remember being related to the i18nifier, so I'll need to figure that out again!

Thanks!

[vernal crest]

You shouldn't need LINQpad

[fierce vault]

Oh?

[vernal crest]

It's just a website you paste your stuff into

!converters

[ocean sail]

These community tools help update mods to newer formats or frameworks:

• Convert to Content Patcher from Custom Furniture, Better Farm Animal Variety (BFAV), Custom Music, JSON Assets, More than Necessary (MTN), SAAT, Shop Tile Framework (STF), TMXLoader, or XNB.
• Convert to other frameworks:
  • Pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
  • Visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
  • Hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
  • Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
  • Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Other tools:
  • Extract i18n for a Content Patcher pack
  • Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
  • Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode

To use this command, type !converters.

[vernal crest]

The first link in other tools

[fierce vault]

Ok!

Would it be a bad idea to wait to do the conversion until the very end with multiple events in the json? Because I'm likely going to tweak/change them in the future even after they are "good enough". I know it would mean testing all the events again at the end.

[vernal crest]

I recommend that you try using the converter sooner rather than later so you get a feel for how it works. It doesn't have to be with your event though - why not try it with a vanilla event so you can see what happens? You can use the Stardew Syntax extension to multi-line the vanilla event first and then run it through the converter.

[fierce vault]

Ok, thanks. I'll try testing it soon then. Just looking at the vanilla event's converted json would be good enough right?

[vernal crest]

Yeah

[fierce vault]

Off to event making I go (after a little more setup) then!

[soft lance]

The fish just aren't there, but without local tokens and adding rhe map name it works

No errors or anyrging either

[lucid mulch]

I should test a cursed method of doing multi-line events

[vernal crest]

Try doing a patch export of data/locations to see if it's present but wrong in some way. And a patch summary to see if CP is saying the patch applied.

[dreamy cedar]

Is there a best way to run time off the game clock? I mean advance the clock about 30-50 minutes or so. I'm guessing that just doing Game1.timeOfDay += 30 would cause mayhem somewhere...

[ivory plume]

You need to change the time in 10-minute intervals to avoid breaking things like NPC schedules. See SetTimeCommand in the SMAPI code for an example implementation.

[dreamy cedar]

ty!

[lucid mulch]

yay my cursed multiline event worked

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/431fa10725a4421b8a9e2da935663764

(I don't actually recommend doing events like this, I was just curious)

[vernal crest]

Huh that's neat

[ivory plume]

(Fun fact: both the game and SMAPI's JSON parser support multi-line event scripts, if you don't mind your code editor yelling at you.)

[lucid mulch]

(I'm aware but I do care about the code editor yelling at me)

[calm nebula]

Thanks I hate it

[lucid mulch]

At least I went with the 213 ⁨/⁩ instead of refactoring it to be 213 instances of a TextOperation append

[calm nebula]

Thanks I really hate it

Instead can we adopt python strings in json

So does it work if u omit the 213 /

[lucid mulch]

you get 212 errors saying that each field failed because the index needs to be between 0 and 0

[fierce vault]

Wow!!

That's so much nicer to read, too bad the editor complains about it

[lucid mulch]

the only thing the editor dislikes about that sample is that its still format 2.7 as I haven't updated

[fierce vault]

Oh, wait, so it's not screaming at you for multilining specifically?

[tiny zealot]

this is a different kind of multilining

[lucid mulch]

nothing about it is invalid json, thats the whole point

[red basalt]

It would be great to have an extension on the moon that reorganized an entire Json file.

I want it to be properly tabulated

[fierce vault]

Ohh, so one might not even need the schema for multilining if you just structure it like that?

[vernal crest]

The schema doesn't prevent VSC from complaining about multilining, does it?

[lucid mulch]

the schema enables comments (maybe trailing commas) and the extra validation, but not multiline

[vernal crest]

I don't think it even allows trailing commas

[lucid mulch]

actually this sample has a trailing comma and its fine

[calm nebula]

JSONC

Just set vsc to jsonl, cowards

[fierce vault]

Wait, I was confusing the stardew syntax extension with the schema lol

[lucid mulch]

jsonc doesn't let my debugger mod work because jsonc is hardcoded to not allow breakpoints regardless of other extensions or settings say

[calm nebula]

What about jsonl

Or json5, is that one an option

[lucid mulch]

jsonl doesn't show any syntax errors at all

[calm nebula]

Ngl sinz

[lucid mulch]

and json5 isn't available out of the box and the various extensions I found all kinda sucked last I checked years ago

[calm nebula]

Breakpoint in json scary haha

[lucid mulch]

I only even use breakpoints as a signal to encode what patches should be tracked as mods have too many patches

[fierce vault]

Well, I really like how you wrote that event

I want to see if I can do that too 😄

[tiny zealot]

i do not care for the sea of / or giving every line a direct index

[lucid mulch]

outside of the performance impact of forcing cp do the work of having to do all the string joining to make this work, its also kind of a maintenance annoyance to keep the ⁨/⁩ length in sync

[fierce vault]

So... it would be a bad idea?

I'm a complete event making beginner rn

[lucid mulch]

I used a lot of multi-caret editing to populate all the indexes, doing the units first in blocks of 10 then 20 and maybe 30?, and then did the tens/hundreds in blocks of 10

[fierce vault]

ok, i guess I'll use the multilining extension then...

I can't tell what's better or why at this stage 😅

[lucid mulch]

there is a vanilla debug command that natively reads from a multiline text file you can use for event authoring and at the end put it back into cp

[brave fable]

personally i just write multiline events in a text editor such as sublime with syntax highlighting disabled for the file

no corrections, but no errors

[tiny zealot]

don't say it too loudly. aba will get on your case for doing events wrong /j

[calm nebula]

sad kitten noises

[lucid mulch]

technically using the vanilla tools to do event authoring is the authors intent, doing in cp at all goes against ConcernedApes methodology

[fierce vault]

So this is sort of related to the extension, but do you remove the schema specifically from the files when you upload your mod?

[gentle rose]

but wouldn't they be right? 😌

[calm nebula]

Anyways bluebs u should do what the rest of us do

[brave fable]

make mods? oh no

[lucid mulch]

the schema doesn't need to be removed when uploading

[calm nebula]

Write a bunch of python to turn an excel spreadsheet into event script

[calm nebula]

U can leave it

[tiny zealot]

no

[fierce vault]

Oh, ok. Would it break things if it was? I haven't gotten around to implementing it yet

[lucid mulch]

SMAPi/CP doesn't care if its there or not, only the editor takes notice to it

[fierce vault]

Kay, thanks!

[brave fable]

oh wonderful, now there's an easy way to tell between irocendar and ichortower. now if only i knew which was which

[lucid mulch]

(also there is no difference between you locally running your mod while developing it, and an end user using it after downloading it from nexus)

[calm nebula]

Iro is the one who is willing to be a moderator

[gentle rose]

ichortower is the one to send all bug reports to

[calm nebula]

Ichor is the one with the good hobbies

[pale river]

iro made the cool tiled extension, ichortower made the cool events framework

[fierce vault]

thanks for answering my noob questions all time guys! :>

Mod making has been really fun for me 😄

[brittle pasture]

I should mention that I looked into allowing (Neo)vim's syntax highlighting to accept multiline JSON strings some time ago, and I wanna share my handiwork: ||there is none! I failed! naught remained after hours of work, not even my sanity...||

[patent lance]

New quote added by irocendar as #7210 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1468097759918948393)

[uncut viper]

oh, blueberry, i did the thing you wanted. now you just need to wait for the next stardewxnbhack update in however many months/years 😌

[lucid mulch]

I was originally looking into what would be required to get monaco editor to accept the craziness that is all the spec violations that newtonsoft doesn't care about to overhaul the json validator site and came to the conclusion its not happening

the closest I got in theory was aot compiling newtonsoft as wasm and just running it directly but effort

[brave fable]

how did you know i wanted you to turn an excellent shade of green

[fierce vault]

How is "ichor" pronounced anyways?

[gentle rose]

bike-or-flower

[uncut viper]

isnt this what everyone wanted of me?

[gentle rose]

(rhymes with ichortower)

[fierce vault]

Ok, so it's what I thought!

[calm nebula]

Does newtonsoft have a tokeniser

[gentle rose]

afaik that's ichor's about me on discord

[calm nebula]

You're perfect for the position

[lucid mulch]

yes, Debugger already makes use of it for the crimes it does

[fierce vault]

and it's eye-roe-send-are for you right??

[pale river]

petrichor probably

[calm nebula]

Why did I ask that I know it has a tokenizsr

I've used that tokenizer

[lucid mulch]

casey has the code crime title out of tenure, I'm just as willing to commit crimes

[brave fable]

eee-rock-un-dah of course

[calm nebula]

All yall criminals

[gentle rose]

(the word ichor is usually pronounced eye-core. irocendar has no canonical pronunciation because it's a keymash)

[vernal crest]

Now try mine :D

[gentle rose]

(but I usually go with eye-roh-send-ahr)

[fierce vault]

Alright!

So i was right I think!

[fierce vault]

Ok!

[calm nebula]

Anyways

[fierce vault]

let's see..

[lucid mulch]

(it is cute listening to people pronounce my name, I think its mainly in 3 camps)