making-mods-general

[brave fable]

remember to join the daily win11 ragging in #programmers-off-topic ☀️

[uncut viper]

you might have a better time making the map in notepad++ instead

[hard fern]

maybe i'll do that if i have free time

i have nothing to lose.

[brave fable]

well, your free time

[lucid egret]

huh does it not? im using visual code studio on mac

[fierce vault]

Surprisingly on topic, but I think I'm confident that I can remove copied tilepaths and force my maps to use vanilla now. I need to actually try it, but I think I know what to do after editing the tmx code for something similar!

[hard fern]

visual studio vs visual studio code?

[fierce vault]

visual studio

VS code is different

[lucid egret]

oh my bad lol

[fierce vault]

also, hi fellow mac user

[hard fern]

ugrhgh right time to fight tiled and json and everything else.

[lucid egret]

hi!

[hard fern]

and i need to update smapi... and I need to make another map... and i need to figure out central station

[fierce vault]

oh man, I was supposed to do modding stuff almost an hour ago 😅

[lucid egret]

you can do this! as long as you're not too stressed about it ofc in that case take a break Forsy

[hard fern]

it's just slowwww

and i am impatient

[fierce vault]

I ran into more mac™ issues when updating stardrop lol

[hard fern]

i shall watch fish youtube while i work

[fierce vault]

What is fish youtube? I've watched fish related stuff before from a Japanese diver guy

[lucid egret]

And it's for this reason that I do not use stardrop 💔

and bc ive been just manually installing mods for the entire 5 years of playing stardew so it'd be weird to do anything else honestly

[fierce vault]

I did fix it tho!

I had to reinstall...

[hard fern]

this is exactly what i mean by fish youtube XD

like every video in my recommended is fish related now

[fierce vault]

did we watch the same guy???

[hard fern]

maybe?

[lucid egret]

i think i know who u both are referring to

[fierce vault]

He will skin all of these different fish, prepare them, and get slightly poisoned because he wants to try everything

[hard fern]

ah.. yes

the slight poisoning

[fierce vault]

I can't remember his name! It's also been a while! But he would acknowledge that he wasn't technically supposed to eat it

[hard fern]

🤔 huh... what am i even going to name my mod... what the hell is it even about...

[lucid egret]

Parcy, what mods have you made if you don't mind me asking?

[hard fern]

I think i'm gonna do my map strings and warps tiledatas in cp because i might end up changing my mod Id at some point, and i don't want to have to change it every time in the map itself

[fierce vault]

I did a krobus portrait mod. For personal reasons, it's currently unavailable until I probably release my update for it though.

[lucid egret]

Oooh very cool

[fierce vault]

I'm also working on an npc

I've shared very little about it though, lol

[hard fern]

2026 is year of the npc

i have to finish one of them this year

[fierce vault]

What kind of mods do you work on?

[fierce vault]

Me too, me too

I need to finish this npc-this year.

It's a need for sure

[lucid egret]

no worries, i'll be excited to see anything if you do!

[hard fern]

i've wanted to make an npc for almost as long as i've been modding stardew haha. but i just never get any of it done and it frustrates me

[fierce vault]

I've wanted to make an npc before I even *had * stardew on the pc

[lucid egret]

Well I converted Adventurer's Guild Expanded to CP and am currently maintaining it, and besides that I do everything else basically currently working on a bobber mod but I have other projects in the works as well

except for C#....but i am learning it

[uncut viper]

(bobber mod, you say)

[red basalt]

I think C# is easy once you've mastered it.

[hard fern]

do you want to make the bobbers bebber

[fierce vault]

How are you approaching C# learning on mac? Is it just enough to try wiki tutorials, or is there something you're using as a runtime (I think?)

[lucid egret]

if you want to check it out I have a thread and ive posted updates in #making-mods-art if you scroll

[lucid egret]

Mostly I've just been watching video tuts so far to understand it, I haven't really gotten around to trying it because life's kinda busy

The stardew wiki page for it is really comprehensive though!

It's very much doable on mac from what I see so far

[uncut viper]

i am all for additional bobbers

[fierce vault]

Oh, Haru, I have I question if you don't mind. Your mod says it automatically repairs tilesheet paths when the image is located in the same folder as the map, but I'm not sure what that means because tiled already repairs things when it detects them in the same folder.

[red basalt]

I don't think that happens, as far as I know.

It might do it automatically.

[fierce vault]

Ah, ok that makes sense. Whenever you try to run code though, you may need to use something like Ryder. (I don't understand it very well beyond that)

[uncut viper]

(though if you go to google that, make sure you google Rider instead /lh)

[fierce vault]

😥

I knew I should've checked!

Why'd I think it had a Y??

[hard fern]

because it's cool. cool things have a y

[fierce vault]

I made it fancier than it was 😅

[dusk mulch]

would it be benifical to add an example to https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Quest_data

[vocal knoll]

Update on making a datable non-datable, the Flower Dance was a glitchy mess and my farmer was forced to dance with Emily xD

[hard fern]

ah yes...

the flower dance cufse

rice

[uncut viper]

every quest in Data/Quests is already an example, no?

[hard fern]

rice..

[uncut viper]

And the Example Values put together make up an example

[dusk mulch]

Didn't see the raw data section, srry

[uncut viper]

its also just in your unpack

[fierce vault]

It does happen when I do that, so you may want to try it out yourself to see. I just need to move things into the same folder for tiled to be happy

[fierce vault]

(without the extension)

[vocal knoll]

Does anyone know if there's a way to make something happen a number of days after an event?

[uncut viper]

#making-mods-general message

[lucid egret]

oh actually it's a CP mod for the bobber styles in-game, not new functional bobbers

wow i need to stop doing that

[uncut viper]

if you need a different number of days than one of the memories, you can use your own CT timer or a stat timer

[uncut viper]

why are they not new functional bobbers

i just mean the decorative ones from the willy machine

not the lures

[hard fern]

people often call the fishing tackle bobbers, so maybe that's the confusion there?

[uncut viper]

the game also does this

with the Trap/Cork/Lead/Quality Bobbers

[hard fern]

why ca...

[uncut viper]

oh and Sonar

Sonar Bobber

[lucid egret]

Oh yeah that's what i meant! I thought when you said additional you thought I was adding in new tackle

[uncut viper]

naw i just assumed you were using bebber bobbers

[hard fern]

new mod: real bobber bobbers where i make a bebber bobber where the bobber is the bobber you can put on your rod and it actually bobbers

[vocal knoll]

OMG how did I miss people responding to me! Thank you!!

[uncut viper]

iirc though from when i was making bebber bobbers, "tackle" can basically mean any fishing equipment

so its not incorrect

[lucid egret]

Oh i didn't even know that existed interesting...

[uncut viper]

i may be biased but i dont think there's any reason to replace vanilla bobbers when that framework exists instead

[lucid egret]

Oh i just personally never use the vanilla bobbers

[uncut viper]

with the framework you can cater to the people who don't and the people who do!

you basically doubled your audience. dont fact check my math.

[hard fern]

i really like the litte duck bobber

[uncut viper]

slime bobber for me. my adorable slime bobber

i could never replace you, slime bobber

[brave fable]

if anyone's made an npc called bob i bet he'd be a great bobber

truly a missed opportunity by ca not to have bobbers sold by Bob instead of a vending machine

[uncut viper]

is your belief in nominative determinism why you named yourself blueberry

[brave fable]

one day i aspire to become some kind of round edible fruit

[lucid egret]

omg your framework fixes the dang flip when facing right thing for my sweet sweet bobbers

[uncut viper]

probably the blueberry kind i think

[gentle rose]

a kiwi?

[lucid egret]

alright you've convinced me

i thought that was so strange when i was testing out my bobbers

[brave fable]

but does it fix bobbers not being centre-aligned with the line when cast straight downwards

which causes me grievous agony

[uncut viper]

its amusing to see you say that when that part of the docs has the disclaimer that says "i dont know what this setting does"

[lucid egret]

i just reached that part

[lucid egret]

that's cause the bobbers aren't centered on the tilesheet due to 16x16 limitations 💔 some of mine are centered some of them arent

why is there a british fishing line colour and an american fishing line color

[uncut viper]

because i write Colour and not Color but I know people would riot if i released a framework that only worked with Colour

[brave fable]

but the fishing line doesn't give a fish about tilesheet sizes since it's an arbitrary curved line

[hard fern]

in case you're a brit or american and have different fishing lines in the fishing line store?

or.. or what button said

[uncut viper]

the Colour variant has priority in all of my mods that use a colour field somewhere, as they should

[brave fable]

let them. what are they gonna do, throw the bobbers in the water

[uncut viper]

no but they might not use my mod

and i kind of rely on them using my mod

[brave fable]

a sacrifice i'm willing to make

[uncut viper]

ill accept the sacrifice if you transfer me a percentage of LoC DP

[gentle rose]

I am also willing to sacrifice people using button’s mod

[brave fable]

how much dp do i get for piping these bebber bobber users to you huh

[uncut viper]

that goes for you too iro. ill only accept your sacrifice if blueberry transfers me a percentage of LoC DP

[uncut viper]

Bebber Bobbers only has 621 UDLs, so like.... 40 DP i guess

[gentle rose]

damn that’s nearly 6 times what I gave you for tilesheetinator I gotta step my game up

that’s almost half a US cent!

[uncut viper]

are you sure about that math

[gentle rose]

am I sure that six times seven is just over forty? yes

[lucid egret]

67

im sorry

[uncut viper]

i just wanted to make you question it for a moment

sorry moument*

[brave fable]

it's speculative. i'd say at the current rate dp will outweigh us dollars 2:1 in a little over 20 years

[gentle rose]

instead I questioned what was going on that you thought it may not be true

[brave fable]

hopefully by then nexus is paying me in gold

[uncut viper]

at the rate nexus is giving me DP it may as well already be worthless

[gentle rose]

alternatively nexus invented the only true stablecoin

[lucid egret]

you guys are getting dp? /hj

[hard fern]

surprisingly, i have this much dp

[brave fable]

congratulations! you're worth 88% of bebber bobbers

[hard fern]

wow

[brave fable]

now start a hostile takeover bid

[uncut viper]

thats 88% of bebber bobber's UDLs

not bebber bobber's total lifetime DP

[brave fable]

this emerging news puts us in a strong position on the market

[hard fern]

it's probably going to take me like 50 years to have enough dp to redeem one of the game keys lol

[uncut viper]

if we assume the same UDL to DP rate as i got last month, bebber bobbers has earned me approximately 993 DP

[brave fable]

it's easier just to pipe the dp to some tigers in africa and forget about the whole miniature stock market going on

[hard fern]

i hope the african tigers enjoy nexus download points

[brave fable]

they might even be able to redeem a game key if enough of us send it over

[hard fern]

then they can play cyberpunk 2077

[lucid egret]

with the dlc!

[uncut viper]

you doin okay iro

[gentle rose]

-# you shouldn’t, I’m pretty sure it varies wildly thanks to some weird “per game per month with penalty for large mod authors” multipliers

no

[uncut viper]

and selph i see you too selph

[brittle pasture]

(so I went insane trying to find the code that makes purchases that use trade items automatically adapt the bulk purchase count depending on how much of the trade item the player has
||there is no such code, I hallucinated that being a thing||
anyway continue )

[uncut viper]

no i know, thats why i mentioned that worthless comment earlier. a 1.6 ratio is the lowest its ever been for me

[brave fable]

summon someone else. do floogen this time

[gentle rose]

so that’s also a no from selph

[uncut viper]

you can make thecode be real in Extra Shop Config

[lucid egret]

what are we trying to spell

[brittle pasture]

Noumb apparently

[lucid egret]

it says nomub for me

[gentle rose]

as good as any

[lucid egret]

[gentle rose]

that’s because you added the m react

so your discord is respecting the order as your device saw it

[lucid egret]

hm!

[gentle rose]

(afaik if you were to restart your app before removing it it would have shown the “true” order)

[hard fern]

mmm nougats

[sterile crescent]

anyone know how Sound Tweaker works? I want to make sound effects for when different characters/genders talk (dialogueCharacter wavebank in sounds) but I dont know how to customize it in a way that makes it unique for each character

[uncut viper]

you wouldnt be able to

[sterile crescent]

do i have to learn c# for it🥺

[uncut viper]

pretty much your only option and it'd still be annoying to do

dont know if iro's upcoming framework does anything with sounds and i dont think ichor ever released voxbox?

[sterile crescent]

where can i find more info on iro's upcoming framework?

[uncut viper]

i do not know. last i knew it was in closed beta(?). last i knew was a while ago though.

iro would probably be a good bet. but like i said, i dont know if it does anything with sounds

[sterile crescent]

o i didnt know their name was irocendar, thanks!!

[gentle rose]

you’re all lucky I don’t mute all game sounds when any mod of mine is installed /lh

[uncut viper]

are you saying it does do stuff with sounds

[gentle rose]

no, no it does not

it pretends stardew has no audio, just like me

[lucid iron]

Hm when u use action in a dialogue when does it actually fire

If it's like a playsound

[uncut viper]

as i remember it, the action gets applied at the same time that dialogue would be shown if it were dialogue instead

so if you have an action after some dialogue, it will play the sound after you click past that dialogue

[lucid iron]

Shenanigans

[uncut viper]

starting a dialogue with an action wouldnt work very well
for starters you wouldnt be able to account for a user clicking to skip the typewriter effect
for non-starters i think starting a dialogue with an action just kinda doesnt work?

i have vague memories of issues with that

[gentle rose]

what does stardewvoices do for it

[lucid iron]

Well having to overwrite dialogue sounds kinda bad in general

[uncut viper]

it plays an audio file

[lucid iron]

Stardew voices has it's own C#

[uncut viper]

well, it loads a wavebank file that plays the audio inside it

[gentle rose]

I forgot about it having its own c# until the moment I pressed send

[dusk mulch]

what would the inside of a junimo hut look like?

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/ichortower/VoxBox/releases

If u make something with voxbox maybe ichor will finally ship it

[sterile crescent]

okay imma look at this thanks!!

[lucid iron]

Pls show ichortower (of anyone can cook fame) whatever you cooked

[royal stump]

that's probably more of a #making-mods-art or #modded-stardew question, but,
probably like the inside of an igloo but made of clay, maybe an open ceiling into the leaf/branch roof, and I guess this richer soil texture

[dusk mulch]

alright, ty! (sorry for the off topic question)

[royal stump]

no worries, I just mean more people will probably have useful feedback there

[lucid iron]

I feel like it's bigger on the inside

[royal stump]

mostly people fiddling with json or C# here

[lucid iron]

That or the satchel is bigger on the inside

[royal stump]

& yeah, probably should be bigger than it looks for perspective's sake and/or magic (assuming it's for an event or something)

[dusk mulch]

If pierre can fit a shop, dance studio, church, 2 bedrooms, kitchen and garden in 3 tiles I can fit a house in 4.

[sterile crescent]

i like to imagine there would be cute little bags full of something, maybe gifts for the farmer or fruits that have been harvested that day

something awful that happened to me was that yesterday when i was messing around with the dialogueCharacter wavebank, i didnt realize i had the dialogue skip mod still so i spent like 5 hours trying to figure out what was going wrong

[dusk mulch]

i actually suck at making tilesheets i try to improvise with vanilla stuff, is this good? (only asking here since i want confirmation this is what you're thinking of)

(for the walls)

[royal stump]

I was thinking more like a darkened version of the exterior bricks
but those sprites' perspective would probably work, and they might be the closest without custom sprites or a lot of editing

[dusk mulch]

ill see if there is anything darker/more like bricks

[sterile crescent]

i wonder if the farm cave would match at all

[dusk mulch]

doesn't that use the outdoor tilesheet?

[sterile crescent]

i have no clue youre probably right 😭

[dusk mulch]

ill check

it uses the mine tilesheet

which isn't a bad idea

anyway ill let this get back on topic

[royal stump]

(there're some brick textures in a lot of sheets, but if it's meant to be pretty big inside, recoloring the desert shop might work )

[dusk mulch]

Not a bad idea... I'll try playing around with that (if I can learn EditImage)

[hard fern]

editimage is pretty simple

[dusk mulch]

Just read its github page, it is easier than I thought

[hard fern]

the new masks feature is cool too

[old edge]

My content patcher code format is still 2.5.0 is that bad?

[dusk mulch]

just get the new version of content patcher and change it to 2.9.0

[old edge]

I did and my code still works…

[hard fern]

not necessarily? i think it's only a cause for concern if your mod relies on something that changes between content patcher versions? 🤔 like if you want to use something from a newer version but you're still using an old format

[old edge]

Oh I hope I didn’t do that

[hard fern]

hm, if anyone knows, how do i target an objects layer for maps with cp?

[urban patrol]

what are you trying to do

[hard fern]

add a tiledata

or does it not matter and can i just target Buildings like normal and add my tile property

[urban patrol]

that would be under set properties (i think it's called)

[hard fern]

yeah, i know that much

but there doesn't seem to be any (obvious) distinction between the actual tile layer and the objects layer

since they're named the same

[dusk mulch]

you just refrence the map layer name since TileData's can only go on object layers

[urban patrol]

they look like two layers in tiled, but they're kind of just one

[hard fern]

hmm

i'll just try it and see

i don't think i'll break anything at least

[old edge]

Layer: back

Maptiles

[dusk mulch]

        {
            "Action": "EditMap",
            "Target": "Maps/Farm",
            "MapTiles": [
                {
                    "Position": { "X": 72, "Y": 15 },
                    "Layer": "Back",
                    "SetProperties": {
                        "TouchAction": "MagicWarp {{Random:BusStop, Farm, Town, Mountain}} 10 11"
                    }
``` (from pathoschild's documentation)

[hard fern]

thats a touchaction though

not an Action

[old edge]

Set to action

[dusk mulch]

It works the same with EditMap (i meant set it to Action)

[hard fern]

🤔 i guess there's no difference between the two types of action

[urban patrol]

the only difference is that action must be on buildings and touch action must be on back

[dusk mulch]

sorry i didnt mean it that way lol

[urban patrol]

sorry for typos i have a headache

[old edge]

How come every time I add a new config option in my content pack users say its not overwriting the old version so config are not there. But my setup is working fine

[brave fable]

for now i'd just use placeholder interior tiles for your location and finish it up later when you've got the groundwork laid out

[hard fern]

well i already have the map

this is all i have left haha

[urban patrol]

are they keeping their old config file?

[brave fable]

wrong person other person

[hard fern]

o

[urban patrol]

slash using a mod manager that does so

[hard fern]

oopsiee

[brave fable]

i thought about reply and thought nothing could go wrong

[old edge]

Should I leave the config files there when I update to nexus? The ones that generate I always delete them.

[old edge]

Most likely they are

[urban patrol]

no you should never pack it but users should delete their config file if they're having issues and generate a new one. sucks to redo but oh well

[brave fable]

generally you'd remove any generated files (e.g. config.json) from your mod when publishing updates

[dusk mulch]

well ive just finished the recolouring of the walls, looks a bit strange in the image but ill see how it looks in game

[hard fern]

and now i'm doing cursed include crimes

[hard fern]

🤔 so if i'm reading this right, will this work for pulling tilesheets from other locations?

<image source="../Buildings/Trailer Cabin.png" width="240" height="112"/>
<image source="../Maps/spring_town.png" width="512" height="1152"/>

[old edge]

tried fixing this map patch to not mess up the vanilla map too much. The bridge works also it was tricky.

[hard fern]

i guess i don't need to do it to the tilesheets actually in maps

[harsh mountain]

should I swap friendship conditions between 2 events?

[old edge]

oh the config errors appear because the player using a translation that's what the problem was.

[dusk mulch]

Do I need to load a custom tilesheet to Maps? I know you can use tilesheets outside of Maps but do I need to load it just in case?

[merry river]

why are you sending a txt file

[harsh mountain]

too large so it couldn't fit discord limits

[old edge]

yes you have to load the tilesheet in I believe with content patcher.

and add it to the maps folder that way using the code.

[dusk mulch]

But I can use files outside of Maps so why cant I just do ../Assets/file.png?

[uncut viper]

that's not inside the content pipeline

you can only use things that are somewhere within the Content folder

i.e. Content/Maps, Content/TileSheets, etc

the only way a map can access a file inside your mod folder is if the tilesheet is directly next to the tmx. but that has always been the case and has not changed with the latest SMAPI

[final arch]

(you should always load your tilesheets so other mods can add recolor compat anyway)

[dusk mulch]

true

well i pray this works then

[dusk mulch]

i tried recolouring it, turns out i am horrible at pixel art in general 😅 ill just stick to the vanilla wall i showed

[harsh mountain]

I got muted on Stardew Modmaker Community for forwarding text file 😭🙏

where it wrote in server rules?

unspoken rules, again?

[dusk mulch]

there is a modmaker community?

[harsh mountain]

yes

[dusk mulch]

like server?

[harsh mountain]

yes

[dusk mulch]

how did i go ~3 years without knowing that

[harsh mountain]

you didn't answered a question why I got muted in Stardew Modmaker Community server for forwarding text file so there's no mention in server rules

[dusk mulch]

right, sorry

im not in the server so i wouldnt know

nor can i even find the server

[hard fern]

sigh. why is tiled doing this

[dusk mulch]

the grid?

[hard fern]

my asset is being cut off

[dusk mulch]

oh

did it just come like that when you imported it?

[harsh mountain]

I asked Aeywoo a question, but still didn't answered my question

[hard fern]

i think i broke something because i changed the image size, but clicked too fast to see what the tiled popup was about

[dusk mulch]

well im not aeywoo but just be patient i guess

[hard fern]

and now i can't figure out how to fix it lol

[dusk mulch]

can you ctrl+z?

[iron ridge]

you were told what you got muted for

[hard fern]

nope

well it's fine, i can just remake the map

[dusk mulch]

try re-importing it into tiled-

alright

[hard fern]

i've tried reimporting it a bunch too lol

it was baked into the xml

[dusk mulch]

tiled is very tedious sometimes, i havn't really seen that before so i would wait to see if someone else knows a solution or remake the map if it isn't too difficult

[iron ridge]

can you send the map and the tilesheet image here?

[hard fern]

ah, sure one moment

i just borrowed the bus stop

even with a new map it's still doing it

this is a completely different file to the one i was on previously

[iron ridge]

tiles of the shop that are placed will be messed up but should be right now

images have to be a multiple of 16 pixels if you want all the tiles to be included (i resize it from 143 wide to 144, theres a new transparent column on the right)

[hard fern]

aghhhg

this is all my fault

it's because i used trim instead of crop

i realized it now

😅 sorry

[iron ridge]

its alright dw

[hard fern]

i just resized all my buildings thwarted by one pixel...

[dusk mulch]

im going to make it so junimos take random things from the villagers because they see them as gifts :)

wait i could use mine walls

just realised i was off topic

[deep cypress]

So, a feature sometimes requested is for certain marryable characters to follow their own regular schedules. Spacecore very nicely provides us with this, by way of adding a field to CharacterData (IgnoreMarriageSchedule). From C#, can I write to CharacterData safely? As in, can I add the field?

The documentation says that Spacecore stores the information in a certain dictionary. Should I just try to add to that dictionary instead?

[dusk mulch]

yall i think my computer ate my tilesheet, i had it in my mod now i cant find it

oh yeah i deleted it

[sterile crescent]

still messing around with it by using sans as a test but i still cant get it working 😿

[shut edge]

      "LogName": "chomposaur extra produce",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "selph.ExtraAnimalConfig/AnimalExtensionData",
      "TargetField": ["cryomancer.livestockdinos_chomposaur", "AnimalProduceExtensionData"],
      "Entries": {
        "773": {
            "Id": "(W)38",
            "ItemQuery": {
            "ItemId": "(W)38",
            },
          "HarvestTool": "DropOvernight",
          "IgnoreAnimalQuality": true,
        },
      },
 }```

trying to do an EAC override, not sure why this doens't work

it just makes the life elixir (773)

presumably something with the IDs

    "MalePercentage": -1.0,
    "AnimalProduceExtensionData": {
      "773": {
        "ItemQuery": {
          "Condition": null,
          "Id": "(W)38",
          "ItemId": "(W)38",
          "RandomItemId": null,
          "MaxItems": null,
          "MinStack": -1,
          "MaxStack": -1,
          "Quality": -1,
          "ObjectInternalName": null,
          "ObjectDisplayName": null,
          "ObjectColor": null,
          "ToolUpgradeLevel": -1,
          "IsRecipe": false,
          "StackModifiers": null,
          "StackModifierMode": "Stack",
          "QualityModifiers": null,
          "QualityModifierMode": "Stack",
          "ModData": null,
          "PerItemCondition": null
        },
        "ItemQueries": [],
        "HarvestTool": "DropOvernight",
        "ProduceTexture": null,
        "SkinProduceTexture": {},
        "IgnoreAnimalQuality": true
      }
    },```

ends up looking like this in the exported json

oh the query isn't hitting the right spot is it, that's prob why

or wait no that's a separate field for if you wanna do a bunch, hmm

[dawn ore]

Is there a way to have a Content Patcher map edit (ie replacing a bit of the Town with an altered version from my mod) also clear the grown bushes, in that special area. I know I can use world_clear command or use Destroyably bushes, I'm just wondering if there's anything 'automatic' I can do so it happens without player intervention

[sterile crescent]

NVM I GOT IT TO WORK!!! YAY! I'll start on actually implementing the sound effects tomorrow :D

[worldly wadi]

Heyyyyyy does anyone knows how can I contact the RSV creators? I sent a message to them on the RSV discord but nobody answered (つ╥﹏╥)つ It's about permissions and stuff, I wanted more immersion between mods (Add a few objects of mine as gift tastes for RSV NPCs, add RSV items as my NPCs gift tastes, add a few NPCs on cutscenes, etc.), but I need to know if they are comfortable for me to do so (ó﹏ò｡)

[shut edge]

man that's weird

marnies will say it drops the right thing now but it still doesn't

[swift belfry]

Did you try sending them messages on Nexus?

[gentle rose]

how long ago did you send the message?

[hard fern]

ughhhh i cloned springoutdoors again :(

cue sad ant bindle

will it cause any issues if i have a clone tilesheet 🤔

[gentle rose]

what happened that it got cloned

[hard fern]

copied something off another map and it cloned itself

[gentle rose]

did you use ctrl+v or ctrl+shift+v?

[hard fern]

uhh.... neither?

i used tiled's selection tool and just switched to the map i was working on and just slapped it down

i didn't use ctrl c or v or anything

[vernal crest]

How do you copy and paste without using ctrl c and ctrl v? /curious

[hard fern]

i mean i just said how, by using this

i don't really know how or why it works

[vernal crest]

But the selection tool puts a rectangle down but it doesn't actually "grab" the tiles when I use it

[hard fern]

huh

[vernal crest]

I have to use ctrl c to actually get the tiles

[hard fern]

i dunno, sometimes it works for me, sometimes it doesn't?

[shut edge]

you can hold rightclick and select sections as well to make it a brush kinda

that might be safer

[hard fern]

i just kinda did that

and it made a clone

[vernal crest]

Oh, you weren't using the selection tool

You were using the right-click function of the stamp brush

[brave fable]

whether you're using the tilestamp tool or copy-pasting tiles it's the same principle; even if a tileset from another map is using the same tilesheet image it's still a different tileset, and it'll be copied into your map if you paste the tiles

[hard fern]

sorry, i misspoke then. i don't know what tool it's called

is there any way to somehow merge the two? or am i screwed lol

[vernal crest]

Yes, there is

[shut edge]

tiled unfortunately has a lot of weird little workflow eccentricies

[brave fable]

either way you should be able to use the 'replace tileset' feature to replace the copy with the original

[gentle rose]

do you have my extension, by the way? it shouldn't cause a problem so if you do I'd need to investigate

[hard fern]

i don't

[vernal crest]

Export the tileset and then use the replace tileset button on the other copy of it and they should merge

[shut edge]

the extension is great

[gentle rose]

well there you have it! /lh

(but in all seriousness it should help prevent things like this)

[hard fern]

ooh, thanks aba

[worldly wadi]

I didn't know nexus had this feature of sending private messages, I'll try ty

[worldly wadi]

2 days ago

[gentle rose]

you may need to just give them more time. as far as I'm aware, the creator of RSV isn't super active right now because irl has them busy

[worldly wadi]

Ooooh oki oki ty!

[harsh mountain]

I forgot to say about that I wanna swap conditions to be sure Loraine reveals her secrets... (or just write best narrative design)

not so early, but...

Loraine's dad's grave... we did something impactful to her... and Loraine in the saloon... maybe a romantic event...

damn... ig there's nothing to swap

everything is fine

[dawn ore]

Sorry to be annoying and bump my own message, anyone got any tips?

[opaque field]

I believe BETAS has something for that)

(half remembering from a conversation a little while ago

[lucid iron]

Yes there is indeed a trigger action from BETAS

[shut edge]

is there a fish_location that is like "whatever the current farm is"

LOCATION_FISH Mountain

one of these

[lucid iron]

https://stardew.button.gay/docs/betas/tractions#ClearTerrainFeatures

[shut edge]

each farm is it's own location

damn that dependacies graph, wow\

[dawn ore]

Fantastic. I'm still quite new to modding, can I make it so if the player has BETAS, it clears the section, but if they don't then oh well it's not game breaking so just keep going? I'd like to keep the list of strict requirements down, although I understand that people who are heavily modding probably already have BETAs installed

[shut edge]

oh maybe i can just do category

[lucid iron]

Yeah that's a pretty standard thing to do

Just toss everything you use from BETAS behind a hasmod

My personal advice is, don't let +1 dependency stop you from doing what you want

[blissful panther]

For me personally, I would add BETAS as a hard requirement just to reduce the number of complaints I'd get about it otherwise.

[lucid iron]

Well ppl do just use rtf to solve this problem from player side

[shut edge]

yeah or just cut the stuff down if you can

[dawn ore]

Thanks folks! Appreciate it!

One more thing, is there a way in game to force a reload of tilesheets? Ie I have a map edit, and within that are custom .PNG files. I've noticed that if I edit the map layout and run 'patch reload ModName' the layout changes, but if I update the underlying image files, it doesn't change until I restart the game it seems. Is there a faster way to force a reload of all custom tilesheets when I'm testing how things look in game?

[shut edge]

InvalidCastException: Can't create item ID '(W)38' as a Object type because it's a StardewValley.Tools.MeleeWeapon instance.

yes i knw it's a weapon smapi

[iron ridge]

are you loading the tilesheets into the Maps/ folder or is the map just reading them from your assets directory?

[blissful panther]

I think patch invalidate is what you want?

I'm famously content illiterate though, so take my ideas here with a grain of salt.

[dawn ore]

The tilesheets are in mod/assets/maps, alongside the actual TMX files. I had some issues with them not loading properly in Tiled when they were in a different place.

Eg, TownEditMap is a map edit to town, and it uses dirt.png in it, I want to tweak dirt.png, save it, run something, and it appears in game

[calm nebula]

You might need to load the tilesheets as assets themselves

Which i will not explain ||until after work hours||

[dawn ore]

They appear correctly in game, there's no issue with it working per se, but it clearly creates some sort of cache as any edits arnt reflected, that's all.

[vernal crest]

It's recommended to store them in a separate folder to your maps and Load them into Maps/<tilesheetname>. That way if you want anyone (including yourself) to be able to do anything like recolour compatibility or editing the tilesheet after certain conditions are met, it will be possible. As long as you keep the tilesheets in the map folder it will not be.

[gentle rose]

to fix the tiled issue, you can use something like my tilesheetinator extension btw

!tilesheetinator

[ocean sail]

You can use the Tilesheetinator tiled extension to create Stardew Valley maps that work in-game without having to copy vanilla and modded tilesheets back-and-forth, rename files with a . in front of their name, edit maps only in the unpacked content folder or make symlink workarounds.

See the mod page for full installation and use instructions.

To use this command, type !tilesheetinator.

[silver shell]

Hi all. I have very little experience with modding other than downloading it fron Nexus. Recently I wanted to challenge myself with the Challenging Community bundles and also include all possible bundles (both normal and remixed). I could not find anything in nexus for this and due to my inexperience I am not sure how to update the json files myself (at least I think that is what I need to do). Has anyone tried this before and maybe can help?

please let me know if this is not the correct thread btw

[tiny zealot]

if you're not making your own mod (or editing one for your own use), this isn't the right channel. this one is for talking shop and getting help with mod creation.
for help setting up mods to play, use #1272025932932055121. to discuss mods and modded gameplay generally, #modded-stardew

[silver shell]

I was thinking of editing the Challenging community bundles to include everything so that is why I put it in making mods. I will try my luck with tech support

[tiny zealot]

oh i see. i thought you were trying to set up its config files

if you are editing how it works outside of its normal parameters then you can talk/ask about it here

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/40490

[brave fable]

BAGI! at the DISCO

[shut edge]

trying to make an animal that makes a random fish daily

can't seem to throttle it's power enough to not give like a legendary daily

!ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Target fish_difficulty_hard fish_difficulty_extremely_hard fish_legendary

is not enough somehow

[lusty halo]

I installed the latest SMAPI and now I'm getting the weirdest error report ever that mention one of my file that's missing but actually doesn't exist in the first place, despite having removed all my mods, leaving only the frameworks. I will try a couple more things, hopefully I won't need to bother Pathos with it.

[gentle rose]

before you ask pathos, you could try sharing a link here and maybe we’ll spot it?

[lusty halo]

Yeah I was going to post it first before asking how to better contact Pathos don't worry. anyway here's the smapi log:
https://smapi.io/log/d3b5fdfc8ea541e98c6e2b01c2d84061

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.5.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.22631.0), with 14 C# mods and 0 content packs.

[lusty halo]

Like, a [game] error? without content packs? what?

[gentle rose]

ohhh, it’s because you’re loading into a save where it was used

[calm nebula]

Did u have a save that used...yeah

[gentle rose]

so it’s trying to find a wallpaper that isn’t present

[lusty halo]

oooh so it's a NEW report then? oh I was kinda scared for a second

[gentle rose]

I’m not sure what you mean?

this will have caused an error in every version of smapi I’ve seen

if you make a new save the error won’t pop up

[lusty halo]

oh I never saw it before. I have moved my mods around all the time. Maybe I never saved an AT mod before?

[gentle rose]

possibly?

[lusty halo]

of all the things that can scare me was my accidentally never saving my game after trying one of my AT mods. figures.

hopefully me having verified the steam files didn't create a new problem... well luckily I backup everything so it s' fine. and none of my save is my save, I basically only mod now, not play so it's fine if they break sometimes. xD

Yeah just needed to use a normal vanilla wallpaper and save again. all good!

thanks for the help!

[red basalt]

I did an update that already included that, and it automatically repairs it without creating a clone.

[autumn tide]

helloooo I'm like 90% sure of this- but the {{ModID}} token won't be parsed if it's part of an i18n, right? my custom stats (which are referenced in a dialog) are prefixed by {{ModID}}

[lucid iron]

Indeed you cannot use tokens in i18n

[autumn tide]

gotcha!

HMMM can you put dynamic strings in other dynamic strings?

shenanigans hehe

[tiny zealot]

with CP's i18n token you can pass arguments to it which CP will expand, but you have to do it manually

like {{i18n:my.key.here |ModId={{ModId}}}} and then you can use {{ModId}} in that value

[autumn tide]

gotchaa! I'll just spell out my mod ID I think and then search through all my files if I ever decide on changing it

[tiny zealot]

it gets cumbersome so i recommend, if possible, splitting up your dialogue and just putting the actual text parts in the i18n

this also reduces the likelihood of translator errors

[autumn tide]

I hath learned the wonders of localized text, so I should be okay!

...those do work in i18ns right

[tiny zealot]

i like to think of i18n and CP tokens as string storage systems that the game never sees

LocalizedText is a game feature; in certain contexts, strings support expanding those [] tokens, and LT is one of those tokens

but when you use a CP token (including its i18n token, to pull strings from your i18n files!), CP is expanding the string and then giving it to the game

the game just sees the resulting string

[autumn tide]

uh huh

[tiny zealot]

so "does LocalizedText work in i18n" is a bit of a non sequitur, to me

if you pull a string from your i18n with [LocalizedText] in it, and give it to the game in a context where it supports the [] text tokens, then it will work. if you try it somewhere else, it won't

[autumn tide]

gotcha!

thank you so much ichor

I think i got it now!

yayyy

[merry river]

what are you trying to do claude

[tiny zealot]

anyway, to revisit your first question, i would try something like this in your dialogue.json:
"my.dialogue.key": "{{i18n:saying.stuff.part.1}}#$action incrementStat {{ModId}}_whatever#{{i18n:saying.stuff.part.2}}"

[autumn tide]

hehe re-writing my whole fucking mod

[tiny zealot]

you have to split up lines when you do this but it prevents translators from (easily) being able to fuck up your codey bits

[merry river]

OHHHH

[autumn tide]

oh, my mod is built too different to enable that hehe

[calm nebula]

Remembering when the french translation translated "Prismatic" (the tag in hats)

[merry river]

ha, guess I have some correcting to do

[calm nebula]

Yielding hats that were no longer...prismatic

Tl;dr yr translators might not have context

[autumn tide]

oh?

[calm nebula]

If you want smth not translated do NOT give it to them

[autumn tide]

trueeee,

[merry river]

i have some dialogue strings that have actions inside of them but they're all inside my i18n tokens

[autumn tide]

wait do actions not work in i18ns

[tiny zealot]

it depends on context (see above)

[autumn tide]

gotchaaa okay okay

thank you!

[calm nebula]

(But I think it's bad form)

[autumn tide]

i got a lot of actions in my i18ns for dialog so it should work..

[calm nebula]

It works, but translators may not know to leave those alone

And because of that, they may try to translate those bits and break them

[merry river]

can't believe atra called me bad /j

yeah makes sense

[autumn tide]

true! I think i'll just make notes for translators, maybe make sure most translators are also modders

[tiny zealot]

it could be worse. you could be me and have a few secret strings that are hardcoded and compiled directly into the DLL, because they are easter eggs and i didn't want them floating around in the i18n or elsewhere

[merry river]

ichor........😆

[autumn tide]

[tiny zealot]

generally i trust translators for stardew valley mods to have enough context to avoid big obvious mistakes, but also i prefer not to give them the chance if possible

[calm nebula]

Prismatique

[autumn tide]

HAH

[tiny zealot]

(i know, atra, but i actually have less baseline faith in the official translators when it comes to this kind of error)

[calm nebula]

To be fair hats are a string eliminated format with ONE field to translate

Maybe 2

[latent mauve]

I do not trust translators (especially with the MTL DP farmer ones) to not break things by translating #$e, let alone the other dialogue commands xD

[worldly wadi]

Hey hey hey so I was modding perfumes that could be gifted and sold, but I think the concept is pretty boring for now, so I wanted to make them able to give the player buffs (Existent buffs, not new ones) when equipped like rings, do I need C# for that?

[autumn tide]

you could make them foods and then use IE to change the animation!!

[west thunder]

It seems I'm having similar-ish difficulties with changing the portrait for The Canyons flamingo portrait, which appears to only be a shop vendor?

[autumn tide]

item extensions :)

ohhh you might be able to yoink the monster musk animation..

[worldly wadi]

Aaaaaaa the point is: They are toxic. I feel like I'm influencing ppl to drink perfumes if I do that, which is not healthy at all.......

[autumn tide]

hm?

[west thunder]

@lucid iron could my goat, for instance, help

[worldly wadi]

Is this a framework?

[west thunder]

As always, sorry if I disturb you.

[autumn tide]

I mean change to animation to be spraying perfume rather than drinking

[west thunder]

Just tell me when and I'll stop.

[autumn tide]

mhm! that's the one you can use to change eating animations- I think?

I did drinkable battery acid with it!

well, technically it was fallspice that did the base of the code

[worldly wadi]

I didn't know that there was an animation for that! :0 Good to know! Is there a tutorial where I can follow to do that?

[autumn tide]

I got no clue- maybe see if you can copy the monster musk one?

lemme pull up the IE docs..

[worldly wadi]

Oh oki oki omg tysm I'm so happy

[autumn tide]

https://github.com/misty-spring/StardewMods/tree/main/ItemExtensions/docs

aww ofc Cheshire

[calm nebula]

Spacecore has that

[lucid iron]

You can use spacecore for that

Although idk the json offhand to do it maybe ask dolphiniaf

[west thunder]

SPACECORE?

aww naaaw

Didn't know it'd be that complicated.

Alright, would this individual be Dolphin is Not a Fish or is there another dolphin I need to look out for?

[urban patrol]

?? spacecore is just a framework you write json for like content patcher

[autumn tide]

it's a CP extension too! I adore spacecore

[west thunder]

Anywho.

Alright, would this individual be Dolphin is Not a Fish or is there another dolphin I need to look out for?

[urban patrol]

yes dolphinaf = dolphin is not a fish

[ornate locust]

Spacecore is very easy to work with

[blissful panther]

And the safest dependency of all time, essentially.

[west thunder]

So that's why I keep seeing it so much.

[brittle pasture]

spacecore does a lot of things. some of those things are useful to many mods

anyway if you're not familiar with CP extension frameworks before, you just edit the asset they give the same way you edit a vanilla asset

[gentle rose]

it’s almost half as important to a modded experience as spenny, making it the tied for second most important casey mod with gmcm

(and we can’t reasonably expect it to catch up, anyway)

[west thunder]

but mine's an hd portrait

and theirs is 64

[lucid iron]

The asset in this case is a custom asset where you tell spacecore what you want to do

[west thunder]

Mhm, thought so.

[west thunder]

@devout otter hi twin could u pretty pls help

[autumn tide]

hello! would {{Hearts:Dwarf}} as shown here work to make 14 separate entries tied to heart level?

[calm nebula]

I would add a default back to the highest in case a mod screws with thr available heart levels

[autumn tide]

oh, I am the one screwing with highest heart levels

[lucid iron]

I think atra means what if C# mod makes 24 hearts total

The other problem with this is I think people tend to level up hearts rather quickly

[autumn tide]

ohh, gotcha

...there are mods that do that?

[lucid iron]

what if

[autumn tide]

oh I'm also (configurable-ly) nerfing heart gain for krobus/dwarf

OHHHH

gotchaa

..I should do the slower thing and just make tokens for heart ranges then?

[calm nebula]

No there is an input to i18n that let's u use a fallback

[autumn tide]

ehhh i'll use a token to make 3 pools

[dusk mulch]

it’s so hard to stop myself from just expanding my mod forever

[autumn tide]

omg same-

[blissful panther]

The dreaded scope creep strikes again.

[autumn tide]

I'm forcing myself to try and release a beta by the end of next month

[wraith bay]

nearly done. always.

[visual nymph]

I will literally be the first download

Just send me the link

[opaque field]

Tryna convince myself my Vegan Fish mod update doesn't need food buffs

or like, how cool would it be if I made it compatible with visible fish

[autumn tide]

ofc, with this deadline, I'm doing something necesary, like fancy dialog for when you slingshot dwarf. there are 9 responses. they may blow up the player

[visual nymph]

Explosion is always a possibility

[autumn tide]

for the high heart ones, they take it as a snowball fight thing (no friendship loss) and hurl it back at the player. they are much stronger than the player. it does not end well

[calm nebula]

You can always decide certain features should be in a later update

Or in a different mod

[blissful panther]

There's a reason companies hold back good features. An update for something that's already gotten eyes on it can get more downloads/purchases than the initial release did.

Of course, that's getting into strange marketing territory to do on purpose for mods.

[calm nebula]

U say that but I used to do that lol

[blissful panther]

It works!

[calm nebula]

Back in the day when hot mods was 2 wks

I would deliberately do a big, substantial update 1 wk in

Because people endorse when they see the "update!" reminder

[blissful panther]

I'm trying to decide whether to do that with my farm map! I could release it now, like the farm itself is done... but the super special unique feature isn't yet. I think in this case, it makes more sense to wait, given that's part of the whole draw of it.

[calm nebula]

Draw, lol

(I'm pretty fried today)

Have been multitasking all day

[devout otter]

Sorry, I just woke up.

You want to do HD portrait via SpaceCore?

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides",
            "Entries": {
                "<your unique entry id>": {
                    "SourceTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: <your path and file name>.png}}",
                    "SourceSizeOverride": { "X": 256, "Y": 256 },
                    "TargetTexture": "<the portrait asset you want to edit>",
                    "TargetRect": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 64, "Height": 64 },
                },
            }
        },```

[autumn tide]

wait that's possible-

[devout otter]

Yeah, but if your portrait have plenty of expressions you'd need to target them one by one.

[lucid iron]

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1462189744371929293 soon™

For shop owner tho it's not necessary

[west thunder]

Apparently so. To be more specific, applying an HD portrait to a vendor from an already-existing mod.

In this case, The Canyons flamingo. Not from the superpack.

[devout otter]

Yar, you can do it like that patch example I put then.

[west thunder]

Because Yoba forbid I go looney and try to give more of these time-consuming portraits to a million more NPCs.

[west thunder]

And in what .json does this go?

[devout otter]

Anywhere you want.

[west thunder]

I apologise, but this would be my first time working with Spacecore.

[devout otter]

You can just put it in content.json if you want.

[west thunder]

Oh, good.

So...

What would be the significance of the unique entry ID?

[devout otter]

A lot of other mods would have their own entries, so that's why you need to make sure your entry names are unique.

[west thunder]

Well, I'm sure I'll come up with something real special then.

Now, how would I go about specifying the target texture?

[devout otter]

People usually just go. {{ModId}}_FlamingoPortrait or something.

[west thunder]

Would the thing just magically find the specific file by name or would I need to give a very specific target path?

[devout otter]

Very specific target path.

[west thunder]

How specific exactly?

Let me get the mod page so I could take a look at the file preview as I'm away from puter.

[worldly wadi]

Can someone help me create custom "Drinking" animations with spacecore? I'm trying to read the documentation but English is not my first language so I can't understand many things, so if anyone could help me I would be glad! (Also sorry to interrupt the conversation, but I really really reeeeally need help)

[west thunder]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32636?tab=files

[devout otter]

Just use the asset name exactly.

[west thunder]

So, would it be:
"The Canyons Expansion/[CP] Desert Monsoon Challenge/assets/Flamingo_Vanilla"?

[west thunder]

oh

[devout otter]

Hi, is this animation for an NPC?

[devout otter]

Just the name the portrait is loaded as.

[west thunder]

So just Flamingo_Vanilla and nothing else?

[old edge]

how come nexus is taking forever to save

[worldly wadi]

For the farmer! They will do a custom animation to use a perfume

Cheshire and his perfumes...

[west thunder]

By the way, thanks bestie.

Appreciate it.

[calm nebula]

Aside and stupidity....I wonder what version of .NET HC uses

[devout otter]

No, that's the file name.

You need to search for the asset name. The Target the portrait is loaded as in the original mod.

[dusk mulch]

I have a tile that I want to have a "Message" action on but when a mail flag or quest is completed I want it to be a warp, if I use a ⁨When⁩ to detect that and add the warp will it replace the Message or go alongside it?

One way to find out I guess

[west thunder]

Now.

I don't want you to get mad.

But explain this to me like I'm a sole termite.

With a breadcrumb for a brain.

[devout otter]

You've done portraits for Jorts and Jean, yar?

[west thunder]

Mhm.

[devout otter]

How did you find what assets you need to target for them?

[old edge]

I've been trying to save an article on nexusmods but it doesnt want to save

[west thunder]

I didn't.

I had to check for their internal names.

And name their portrait spritesheets after them.

And then dump 'em in my Portraiture collection.

[dusk mulch]

It might be broken, I would just copy the article, refresh the page and if you need to paste it back in.

[west thunder]

Because, unlike this singular vendor portrait, those two are proper characters that, with enough elbow grease, could be changed without the use of additional coding.

[dusk mulch]

nexus is really buggy when it comes to mod versions and saving of mod pages

at least in my experience

[west thunder]

From what I'm understanding here, I need to have the target be called whatever the mod calls this file internally?

[devout otter]

Aaw Portraiture...

[devout otter]

Yep! You'd want to search the content.json for an patch action that loads the Flamingo_Vanilla.png.

[dusk mulch]

someone translated my mod into french but used AI art for the thumbnail, can i ask them to change it or do I not have any say over it?

[uncut viper]

you have the right to control who publishes translations of your work

[west thunder]

With the temporary death of the humble HD Portraits, I sit here, locked up like Tai Lung.

[old edge]

I left it saving overnight and it just stayed on the loading icon

where do you report to nexus

[west thunder]

And whatever wacky prefix or alias the file gives the action of loading this file is the target I need to put in?

And nothing else whatsoever?

[uncut viper]

nexus just gets stuck sometimes. if the gear is spinning for more than like, 10 seconds, its broken and you need to refresh and do it again

[urban patrol]

copy paste what you had in the box to a document or something before though

[devout otter]

Yup yup.

The one they put in the Target field.

[west thunder]

Intriguing.

And the SourceTexture is just the folder and name of the file I want to replace Flamingo_Vanilla?

[devout otter]

Yup yup.

[west thunder]

Right, right.

And can the code you've provided be the only thing in the content file for everything to work properly?

I admitedly haven't messed around with the basics in a while.

[old edge]

is 5 articles too many

[west thunder]

Or does there have to be some kind of Load thingimibobber at the start of it all?

[calm nebula]

People, afaik, never look at articles

[mellow laurel]

I do but I'm not people, I'm a cat. I think most users barely read mod pages.

[jaunty shuttle]

I always read the mod page the whole way through before downloading (skipping over the code-explaining parts lol)

[drowsy minnow]

i think if u do, and for those who dont read far into mod pages, u could at or near the top put a disclaimer about the articles!!

[devout otter]

If your mod only change the portrait, that's the only patch Changes you'd need. (you'd also need the Formatfield obviously)

[dusk mulch]

⁨when⁩ uses game state queries right?

[uncut viper]

no

when uses tokens and strictly tokens

[dusk mulch]

alright, ty!

[old edge]

I tried refreshing several times

[west thunder]

So, I'd have to use Changes on top of the code you've provided me?

[devout otter]

If your json have a patch action, it always needs to be inside a ```{
"Changes": [

]
}```

[old edge]

my mod is 3 years old

[west thunder]

i may be a dumbass, but does your code have to be inside the changes thing

[devout otter]

Rule of thumb is to see if a patch have a "Action" field on it.

If it does, then in the "Changes" it goes.

[hard fern]

Hm. oopsie. it seems in my attempt to trim my asset i offset the door

[west thunder]

Ah. So it does.

  "Changes": [
          {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides",
            "Entries": {
                "<your unique entry id>": {
                    "SourceTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: <your path and file name>.png}}",
                    "SourceSizeOverride": { "X": 256, "Y": 256 },
                    "TargetTexture": "<the portrait asset you want to edit>",
                    "TargetRect": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 64, "Height": 64 },
                },
            }
        },
  ]
}```

Like so?

[devout otter]

Yep yep.

[west thunder]

Well look at me go.

All wrinkly-brained.

Thank you lots.

[brittle pasture]

my "total clint replacement" mod is going well

[hard fern]

spenny..

[lucid iron]

Everyone is Penny

[dusk mulch]

I see no problems.

[gentle rose]

you beheaded her. she opened a geode for you and you beheaded her

[west thunder]

I'm scared.

[dusk mulch]

hi scared, i'm @dusk mulch

[west thunder]

Cheers.

[autumn tide]

helllooooo any way to find out what the extra fields for shop item..things are if they aren't in the wiki? sorry if this makes no sense programming brain and speaking brain do not work together

[uncut viper]

what do you mean extra fields for shop item things

[autumn tide]

allll of these guys that aren't mentioned in the wiki

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Shops

[uncut viper]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries#Item_spawn_fields

[autumn tide]

oh!

thank you!!

wow i feel stupid

[short temple]

I needed this for the NPC shops ty ❤️

[golden basin]

is there anyone here familiar with coding in aquairum information for fish? because i am getting confused over the sprite indexes. its just not matching up at all

[autumn tide]

LOL, that was buttons

[dusk mulch]

omg yes my questline works

[brittle pasture]

post code? also https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_a_New_Fish#Aquarium_Data can help

[short temple]

I still struggling to translate all i'm learning to My language, and many of the things i've learned was thanks to You, Chu! And selph, so thanks for everything ,i'm hoping to do an island but it's a long road to walk

[autumn tide]

yay!

[golden basin]

okay so my issue is im counting my sprites, and im like ok yeah these are totally the indexes and it ends up not being the indexes im so confused....

[hard fern]

how are you counting them?

[golden basin]

0-1-2-3 by each sprite from the top left across

[royal stump]

⁨patch export⁩ whichever sheet it's using to be sure it's not an editing issue
(and upload w/ code here to double-check)

[golden basin]

these are the sprites

[royal stump]

unless it's not touched by other mods ig

[golden basin]

its not touched by other mods

https://smapi.io/json/none/64f137c4a6664165b8f9f4846c239fa9

this is my code

but i just, idk why its not matching up

theres like not even any animations for any of them except my jellyfish so its all the same numbers, the issues is literally the index is wrong and idk how to count this cause the tradtional way is giving me the wrong results

[short temple]

I think You have to put both fish sprites one after the other, the aquarium should use both of them but i'm not sure i need to learn more

[hard fern]

🤔

[golden basin]

what do you mean

[short temple]

The fish uses two sprites

To look like they are moving

[golden basin]

it only uses two sprites if you code it that way

cause the game overlays a wiggle effect

[hard fern]

your sprites aren't in the right places?

they're not aligned to the grid

[short temple]

I think that is why they're not animating but as i said i might be wrong

[brittle pasture]

aquarium sprite is 24x24

[golden basin]

its 24 by 24 right

[brittle pasture]

the grid is correct

[hard fern]

i think i'm confused them

im looking at the objects

the objects data in your json

[golden basin]

the indexes are correct right? im not losing my mind>?

[hard fern]

what exactly are the fish showing up as instead of what they should be? 🤔

i just looked at some other fish data and it looks correct

[golden basin]

huh....i reloaded and its working now

[brittle pasture]

I'm looking at the vanilla aquarium sprite + checking the code and it seems like the sprite size is 24x48, but it's only using the bottom half? can you try making the sprite 24x48

[hard fern]

oh

[brittle pasture]

or nvm?

[golden basin]

it hm that was weird

[royal stump]

...oh

the game assumes the sheet is exactly 480 (20 sprites) wide

afaict anyway, you'll want to put them all on one line

[calm nebula]

Huh

[royal stump]

⁨```cs
if (aquariumData.TryGetValue(fishId, out var rawAquariumEntry))
{
string fishName = ItemRegistry.GetData("(O)" + fishId)?.DisplayName ?? ArgUtility.SplitBySpaceAndGet(v.Value, 0);
string[] array = rawAquariumEntry.Split('/');
string aquariumTextureName = ArgUtility.Get(array, 6, "LooseSprites\AquariumFish", allowBlank: false);
int aquariumIndex = ArgUtility.GetInt(array, 0);
Rectangle source = new Rectangle(24 * aquariumIndex % 480, 24 * aquariumIndex / 480 * 48, 24, 24);

[calm nebula]

Pathos plz

[hard fern]

why is fish like this

[golden basin]

like one long horizontenal line

[royal stump]

yeah

[golden basin]

oof ok

[royal stump]

you might also be able to treat every vertical line as +20, but doing 20 per line is safer/clearer

[golden basin]

20 per line?

what do you mean?

[short temple]

I think he means the pixels

[royal stump]

yeah, 20 fish sprites, 24 pixels each = 480 pixels per horizontal row

it assumes sprites 0-19 are on the top row, then starts at 20 on the next one, etc

[short temple]

Thanks for the info, i also needed to learn this for my mod

[golden basin]

its actually working perfectly as is thank you for helping ❤️

[royal stump]

(also I just realized I was quoting Summit.cs code, my bad, I haven't slept much )

looks like fish tanks do account for arbitrary sprite width, so I'm back to being unsure what happened

[ivory plume]

Monthly mod stats time!

Rise of AI-generated mods

Last month I mentioned a growing number of AI-generated C# mods. This month's 165 new C# mods breaks the all-time record (161) set in April 2024 after the Stardew Valley 1.6 modding update. The ramp-up is visible in the graphs below.

More mods seems like a good thing, but that's concerning since...

• AI creates C# code by default. C# mods are less compatible with future game/SMAPI updates and less secure than content packs, and a full 31% of new mods this month are C# mods (where 10–15% would be more typical).
• AI-generated mods tend to be fragile, overly complex, and closed-source.

In the short term, these stats are becoming harder to maintain. Data related to AI-generated mods tends to be lower quality and need a lot more cleanup (e.g. different names between the manifest and mod pages, incorrect manifest info, mod IDs which change from one version to the next, mods which don't work at all, etc). The more complex code also makes it much harder to analyze mods in bulk for malicious code.

In the longer term, I worry that this will degrade the quality and health of Stardew Valley's modding ecosystem. Mod authors who AI-generate mods often don't participate in the community, don't open-source their code, don't apply best practices, and may not update mods for future game versions (particularly those which are closed-source).

I guess it's unsurprising that AI is changing things. What remains to be seen is whether the end result will be a net positive.

Mod compatibility

81.3% of SMAPI (C#) mods are compatible or have a workaround, up from 80.9% last month.

Unique mods by type

We have 524 more mods this month.

Custom Music dropped below 100 content packs, so it's no longer tracked separately in these stats. It's been falling steadily since Stardew Valley 1.6, since it was never updated and simple custom music can now be added through Content Patcher.

The breakdown of new mods by type is:

• +273 Content Patcher;
• +165 SMAPI (C#);
• +42 Fashion Sense;
• +30 Alternative Textures;
• +7 XNB;
• +4 Json Assets;
• +2 Farm Type Manager;
• 0 Better Artisan Good Icons;
• 0 Custom Furniture;
• 0 Furniture Framework;
• 0 Producer Framework Mod;
• 0 TMXL;
• -1 Dynamic Game Assets;
• -1 Mail Framework Mod;
• -1 Shop Tile Framework;
• and +4 for frameworks with <100 content packs.

Content Patcher packs

We have 13,244 Content Patcher packs.

Format version 2.7 has fallen out of the top five, replaced by 2.8. The top five Format versions are now...

• 2.0 (3,903 ↗ 3,941), 2.3 (867 ↗ 882), 2.4 (668 ↘ 665), and 2.8 (672 ↗ 785) for Stardew Valley 1.6;
• and 1.19 (571 ↘ 569) for Stardew Valley 1.4.

Open source

• We have 4,066 tracked C# mods, of which
• 2,414 mods (59%) have a source code repo, with
• 1,299 (54%) in a multi-mod repo and 1,115 (46%) in a single-mod repo.

The percentage of open-source mods is dropping rapidly (62% in October, 61% in November, 60% in December, and 59% in January). This seems to be driven by the wave of AI-generated mods, as discussed above.

Web costs

And finally, web hosting costs for the SMAPI.io site, update-check server, and API rose slightly to US$215/month. (The graph is always a bit behind due to billing cycles.)

See also

• Stats for ← December 2025 • February 2026 →
• Full mod dump (80 GiB)
• Download all open-source mod repos
• Dynamic view of mod dependencies

And that's it for this month! Feel free to ask if you have any questions.

[hard fern]

+7 xnb i see

[merry river]

oh this is the first time i actually see one of these monthly mod stats things, this was so interesting to read

Mod authors who AI-generate mods often don't participate in the community, don't open-source their code, don't apply best practices, and may not update mods for future game versions (particularly those which are closed-source).

pretends to be shocked

[gaunt orbit]

I wish nexus would just ban ai mods

[merry river]

honestly. don't need that slop in my game

[opaque field]

Same

I don't need AI to write bad code for me. I'm perfectly capable of doing that on my own thanks

[dusk mulch]

the only slop i want in sdv is pierre's produce

[opaque field]

XD

the mayor

[dusk mulch]

is there a mod that allows you to go through events step by step? so it only executes 1 index at a time, press a button and it does another?

[gaunt orbit]

I don't think so, but that's an interesting concept, and I don't think it would be too complicated

[dusk mulch]

im too scared to go near C# so ill put it onto the mod ideas github

[merry river]

i think sinz's event tester lets you adjust event speeds?

[dusk mulch]

ill look into it, ty!

[calm nebula]

It let's you go faster not slower

[merry river]

ah, too bad

[dusk mulch]

awww :(

ill put it to the mod ideas github then

[merry river]

other than that i suggest using debug mode when testing events if you don't have it already

[dusk mulch]

ive just been using smapi console debug commands lol

[merry river]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/679

it displays information like the current command of your event while testing it

[dusk mulch]

ty!

[neon fern]

Is it possible with Extra Machine Config to make a machine with multiple rules that kinda “share” the some inputs?
I’m working on a tea mod with several tea bases (like green tea and black tea), and I want a mixing machine that combines a tea base with dried fruit to make flavored tea. So the same machine would have rules like:
green tea + dried fruit = flavored green tea
black tea + dried fruit = flavored black tea
And not just dried fruit, it could work with other stuff too, like flowers:
green tea + flower = flavored green tea
I might be overthinking this 😅 but I’m stuck on how to make it work. My idea was to require the dried fruit to be in hand and then just consume the first tea base is available in the inventory, but I don’t know if that’s even possible with the framework.

[opaque field]

ooh ooh yes

[toxic sage]

i think cornucopia does that with different types of mayo?

[opaque field]

uh, okay I think Cornucopia Artisan Machines Yoghurt Jar does that

[toxic sage]

that too LOL

[opaque field]

I used that format for my cream cheese mod

hehe

[shut edge]

yeah there is in fact a mod or two that should do that with tea already even

either a cornu machine or a wildflower one i think

[toxic sage]

can i butt in and ask for some help with fashion sense? i changed the sprites of someone else's pack and can't figure out how to change these pixels that won't dye/colour-match

[merry river]

WAG has tea machines

but y'know. two cakes

[toxic sage]

i've tried changing the rgb values in the json for the shirt so they match the ones on the sprite but that hasn't seemed to work??

[opaque field]

grabby hands give me all the tea and cakes

gives me much joy sosu

Feels like a dumb question but is there a way to make custom bombs

[shut edge]

nuclear valley did it

so probably

[brittle pasture]

to clarify previous answers: how Cornucopia's Yogurt does it is that the flavor comes from the primary input

with EMC you can instead have the flavor comes from the dried fruit fuel by using DROP_IN_ID_1, so you can use the green tea/black tea as the main input

https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/tree/master/ExtraMachineConfig#inheriting-the-used-fuels-flavor-and-color-in-addition-to-the-primary-input-item-as-detailed-below

[brittle pasture]

with C# you can

no content-visible way otherwise

[opaque field]

Ah, okay that's about what I thought

[shut edge]

alchemistry alters the vanilla bombs but i'm not sure what method they use

[opaque field]

thinks about if I want to try touching C# again

[brittle pasture]

they just rename/retexture the vanilla bombs

[shut edge]

makes sense

while we're at it how about mystery boxes

[brittle pasture]

also cardhoded

[shut edge]

dang

[brittle pasture]

but you can make custom geodes with CP

[opaque field]

What's that bugs bunny hardcoded meme

[calm nebula]

Cardhoded

[opaque field]

I've seen it here XD

[ornate locust]

oh, I made it, one sec

[opaque field]

oop Jerry not Bugs

[shut edge]

for that method we were talking about Selph, would you suggest custom geodes with a box sprite, or like one-off item boxes that make one item?

[opaque field]

ty ❤️

[brittle pasture]

what's dardroded about the mystery box is the unorthodox drop rates that it uses, which isn't quite possible with CP

I recommend custom geodes because it tickles the same part of the reptile brain that makes humanity so susceptible to gacha games

[shut edge]

haha

[toxic sage]

i LOVE gambling with geodes and mystery boxes theyre my kryptonite

[shut edge]

in my current use case i want them to do single items anyway but i suppose that would still work just as well

[opaque field]

I love Geodes

[shut edge]

maybe it could make my random fish attempts less....overpowered

[opaque field]

The Omni and the Frozen are my favorite (pure aesthetic)

[brittle pasture]

also make sure to ban your boxes from geode crackers with the context tag if you're going to have them drop weapons

(unless you fancy using EMC's non-Object output function)

[shut edge]

ah yeah that is a question huh

[opaque field]

time to distract myself from crops to look at decompiled bomb coding

[shut edge]

clint will spawn weapons ok i imagine?

[brittle pasture]

yes

[patent lance]

New quote added by handwrittenhello as #7171 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1466955062902259825)

[shut edge]

how about like a box you can just open by using it like a food or such, is that a thing we can do

[brittle pasture]

I'd say on the "Why Is The Code Like This" meter bomb code is probably a 3.75/5

maybe even a 4

tl;dr have fun

[opaque field]

nevermind

LMAO

[toxic sage]

oh FASCINATING

[opaque field]

I made a 'grenade gift' for Kent and thought it could be neat

but

I am not that advanced

[brittle pasture]

damn I didn't mean to discourage you

[shut edge]

kent always sending bombs in the mail

[opaque field]

(I still have the decompiled code open)

I'm still looking at it but it dropped on my priority list

[shut edge]

where the hell does the game store geode data hm

[brittle pasture]

Data/Objects

there are geode drops fields

[shut edge]

oh i'm dumb

[opaque field]

Not so much discouraged but a realistic shift of priority. I still wanna peek at how it's done

[shut edge]

was lookin at mystery box and going there's nothing useful here lol

[opaque field]

I like now how things tik

I can words

[shut edge]

ah i see, thanks

[opaque field]

Ok so far I searched 'bomb' and don't know if that was the right thing to look for.

[calm nebula]

No

Look at somewhere in the middle of the temporary animated sprite code

Gamelocation.explode is also a good read

[opaque field]

TY! I will search there

[calm nebula]

The fact that the code is in the middle of temporary animated sprites is like 2/3rds of this rating

[tiny zealot]

this is on my potential features list for the event commands mod i'm working on, but it's not high priority, not least because it will be hard to make it work with one of the mod's main features

[shut edge]

real feature creep hours

[dire kestrel]

i'm not sure why you're fiddling with colors in the first place, since to my recollection you're only trying to tweak the shape for use with a different body type? to add; what art program are you using?

[shut edge]

imaging a hardcore modder with a springobjects sheet tattooed on them

[hard fern]

😭

[toxic sage]

aseprite! the colours are very slightly different because i'm using shirt assets from a different mod, which retextures the shirts but not for fashion sense

[ocean wave]

or cursors

[shut edge]

gets a new cursors tat in an odd spot after every update

[dire kestrel]

i see i see 🙂‍↕️ to be honest i think you should use the colors provided in the fs version to reduce tedium

[ornate locust]

Having tried to convert one of the textures in that for FS, it looked pretty bad tbh

I accept that I know nothing about how those color masks in FS work, definitely not enough to convert it, because it didn't look remotely right

[dire kestrel]

-# more fuel for the fire to aid my own farmer_base adventures

[toxic sage]

fair! i'll do that... tomorrow. i am eepy

[shut edge]

damn are weapons just handled by rotating the item sprite?

[brave fable]

yep

[shut edge]

that's convienient

well in that case, time to creep some more https://i.imgur.com/ifYm8aw.png

[patent lance]

@calm nebula: read this again (9d ago)

[brittle pasture]

also I should clarify:

• you have to be using EMC fuel for the flavor inherit to work; vanilla fuel doesn't work
• if you want the dried fruit to be the main input and the black tea/green tea to be fuel, that's an option with EMC fuel too; you can specify multiple output items in the same rule, with each of them having different fuel

[neon fern]

Is possible to make the output have the quality of EMC fuel item?

[brittle pasture]

the fuel requirement accepts context tags, so you can do "fuel is iridium quality" and have the output be iridium

it is a bit manual though; the Cornucopia yogurt machine does just this if you need an example

[neon fern]

Thanks!

[shut edge]

damn what are those one swords that are like covered in little obsidian blades called

Macuahuitl

that's it

[azure pine]

Are there are standard patterns for making stardew valley mods?
It would be cool to know?
Just starting my journey on this by the way

[lucid mulch]

Content patcher, smapi and other

[round timber]

what kinda mod you wanting to make

[azure pine]

I don't know yet but something fresh perhaps
I think I 'm going with SMAPIs quickstart tutorial

I'm just asking if there's a standard pattern like project structure and such to follow
for long term development

[round timber]

the structure will depend on whether youre doing C# or content pack (which depends on the complexity of what youre doing). sounds like youre wanting to do C# though (and as such I'm not qualified to answer)

[fierce vault]

How do I force my tmx to draw its tilesets directly from the game? I'm using tilesheetinator, and all the vanilla tilesets are being drawn on from a folder on my desktop right now, but to my memory the path needs to be broken for the tmx to search in the game's files instead. Esentially, I have to re-break them somehow right?

[ornate locust]

You select that folder as your "unpacked maps folder" and Tilesheetinator will... I don't know if I'm explaining this well, but it will take those tilesheets as "vanilla"

[urban patrol]

(i misread ignore me)

[ornate locust]

I just set my unpacked maps folder from unpacking Stardew as my unpacked maps folder so I don't keep copies anywhere else

[fierce vault]

Oh, so I chose my folder wrong? I thought I needed to use an actual unpacked folder, not the one directly from my game. Would doing that still break the map if I uploaded it tho?

[ornate locust]

I'm not sure what you mean by an actual unpacked folder" vs one from your game. I use a folder I unpacked straight from my game

so it'll see this and it'll look for spring_outdoorsTilesheet.png in the unpacked folder I set

as long as your image source is just the file itself, it should honestly work fine in anyone's game

[fierce vault]

Ok, I think that's what I'm already doing too then? (Also, I said actual unpacked folder because I thought that you somehow set stardew's own not unpacked maps folder as your source)

What's confusing is that my game does not automatically replace the spring tilesheet with the summer one when I change seasons, which I thought was supposed to happen when the tilesets are drawing straight from vanilla and not an unpacked folder.

[ornate locust]

No, it can't do that

Wait

I mean TILED can't do that, but your game should do that fine, yeah

hmm

[fierce vault]

So, my game should do that, but isn't. I wasn't supposed to add something in the json for that was I?

[ornate locust]

No, not with vanilla stuff...

it should absolutely just work

oh boy I'm not even sure where to start diagnosing that one

[fierce vault]

the basic tilesheet looks normal here, too 😅

Like, the same as yours

[ornate locust]

If it looks like that in the map file, it really should just work if you get there ingame... let me see if I'm missing anything thinking sounds

yeah, nah, that looks very identical to what I use, and there's no JSON stuff needed for that. I don't think that's a Tiled problem at all. Tilesheetinator just helps Tiled look in the right spot so you can see what you're editing. The game itself handles the changing of the seasons thing and that IS looking at the right spot...

I'm stumped, maybe someone else has ideas

[fierce vault]

Thanks for looking into it anyway. This is strange...

[ornate locust]

I think I've seen someone having this problem once, but I don't remember who or in what server, so looking for it's gonna be a hail mary LOL

[opaque field]

At last, I have updated my Vegan Fish mod :3 https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/35766

[fierce vault]

😅 Yeah, at a certain point stuff like this just gets lost, and discord is very particular with how keywords will help find stuff.

[fierce vault]

I wonder if it would work if I copy the map (which breaks the tileset paths) and then don't fix the paths as I load it into the game.

[ornate locust]

I genuinely don't think it's anything about the paths

If your map says that in the data, nothing Tiled lookes at matters

The game will look for that. and it's a vanilla file

[urban patrol]

are there any vanilla tilesheets in your folder

[uncut viper]

is your map an Outdoors map, or treated as outdoors?

[fierce vault]

It's outside

[fierce vault]

Oh, yes, there are a few! could that be it??

[uncut viper]

but i mean does it have the Outdoors or TreatAsOutdoors map properties

[fierce vault]

I used the vanilla bus stop as a base, so I think so, I can check the tmx

I searched for TreatAsOutdoors and came up empty in the tmx json, so I don't think so

[uncut viper]

what about just Outdoors

[fierce vault]

I think so

[uncut viper]

then yeah, remove any tilesheets that are next to the .tmx in your mod folder

just in case

[fierce vault]

Oh, should probably delete the veiw port clamp too even tho I didn't notice any affects

[fierce vault]

I'll try that

[uncut viper]

SMAPI loads any tilesheet it can find in the same folder as your .tmx with priority and ignore the content pipeline
(i would have thought you'd then get an error if you didnt actually have any other seasons in the folder, but shrugs)

if theyre vanilla tilesheets and you're using Tilesheetinator, you shouldnt even have them there in the first place