making-mods-general

[urban patrol]

(randomly)

[next plaza]

@finite ginkgo @tame burrow Sanity check this SpacECore build to make sure it doesn't break existing mods using the dungeons stuff? I'm not entirely sure how it's working to begin with but anyways (ping on reply, if you don’t mind)

Unless y'all moved off of spacecore I guess

I haven't heard of any other mods using the dungeon stuff yet though

Mainly just want to avoid releasing it and y’all suddenly get bug reports and having no clue why it broke suddenly

[urban patrol]

(there's no rush on releasing it on my end, i'm months and months away from this being done)

[next plaza]

(I’ve had a release for it and GMCM for a couple months I think?)

[dusk mulch]

I'm trying to make it so when you read "Note4" it sets a tile property at 31, 95 in the forest and you right click it to get an item (done with PEEM and SNFW) yet when I read the secret note nothing happens. PEEM is working fine it's the "when" that is the issue since you can get it from the tile without it

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1c9ce2357f114f87ba04fa82ce1a2211

i've tried game restarts, sleeping, leaving the area and going back, patch reloads

lines 133-167 are the important ones

[brave fable]

peem and snfw

i must be getting old

[tiny zealot]

can you run patch parse "{{ichortower.SecretNoteFramework/HasModNote}}" in your SMAPI console and paste the output here?

[dusk mulch]

sure just give me one sec to load the game again

Metadata
----------------
   raw value:   {{ichortower.SecretNoteFramework/HasModNote}}
   ready:       True
   mutable:     True
   has tokens:  True
   tokens used: ichortower.SecretNoteFramework/HasModNote

Diagnostic state
----------------
   valid:    True
   in scope: True
   ready:    True

Result
----------------
   The token string is valid and ready. Parsed value: "NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note14, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note10, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note9, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note8, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note15, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note7, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note5, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note4, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note12, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note03, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note02, NotAGardener.MoreSecretNotes_Note01"```

[next plaza]

It's a very unfortunate pair of acronyms that I don't know what they are, considering what each is close to

[dusk mulch]

PEEM is just another version of MEEP and SNFW is Secret Note FrameWork

[next plaza]

Another version? Was there a fork or something?

[tiny zealot]

ok that's working, so it's not that.
i'm not very familiar with meep/peem, but could it be because you've sort of duplicated the data in the map tile edit and the peem edit?

[dusk mulch]

DecidedlyHuman was very kind to make a new version for something i needed with a new feature

[tiny zealot]

i.e. you have a maptile to do the peem interaction to give an item, but then you also patch peem's itempickups and tell it what tile to use

so maybe you only need one of those?

[next plaza]

Oh, so like a beta build?

[dusk mulch]

Let me check

[dusk mulch]

I guess so, yeah

[next plaza]

Did DH come up with that naming convention for the beta

[dusk mulch]

I guess it was just the acronym, I'm not sure

[tiny zealot]

Papping Extensions and Extra Mroperties

[next plaza]

@blissful panther Is PEEM the beta for MEEP? And if so did you come up with that name for it?

[next plaza]

'Mroperties' has big 'tractions' energy

[dusk mulch]

I removed the one that edits the forest map directly and it doesn't work, I can't remove the PEEM one as that gives it the data on what to do on the tile/pickup.

Wait...

I might have an idea of what it is.

[next plaza]

Don't worry DH, I'm only asking so I can decide who to pass judgement on

[dusk mulch]

Since the list has commas it has to be referenced as so, just an idea.

Nope.

[urban patrol]

ugh. how do i say in trigger action "one and only one of these doors spawns treasure; the other two spawn monsters"? i was thinking i could use pinned keys but i'm completely lost with how to format that. if context helps, here's the trigger action in progress:

    "Id": "{{ModId}}_DungeonDoors",
    "Trigger": "Manual",
    "Actions": [
        "Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WarpFarmer [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterLocation Farmer] [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterCoordinate Farmer X] [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_NumberOffset [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterCoordinate Farmer Y] -3]",
        "mushymato.MMAP_UpdateMapOverride + {{ModId}}_Door1Override", // remove override on exit
        "Spiderbuttons.BETAS_TriggerAction {{ModId}}_DungeonDoorSpawnChance" // separate traction with condition 0.33? should be pinned key or smth instead?
    ]
},```

rn each door runs the same traction, but i could give each one its own traction. i could also potentially not do it in this traction and instead do it in tile actions on the map, but same deal, how would i say "1/3 is treasure and 2/3 are monsters"?

i guess i could have a spawn group with .33 treasure and .66 monster chance? it's not perfect though

i'm not smart enough for crimes :/

[sleek flint]

Does anyone know where I can find cave lanterns or torches?

In the game's files.

[dusk mulch]

Maps\Mines\mine.png

[urban patrol]

torches are a spring object, their flame is in cursors, and lanterns should be on cave tilesheets iirc

[dusk mulch]

ohhh torches

[sleek flint]

ok thanks

[dusk mulch]

i thought they meant these

[dusk mulch]

btw the code was taken from a mod i made in 1.5 and tweaked to fit this one which is a remake of that mod so it could be to do with that 🤷

[tiny zealot]

well, i'm not sure what other help i can be here. afaict SNF is working correctly, so my guess is something is misconfigured on the PEEM patches

it could also just be something difficult to notice, like a minor typo

[dusk mulch]

well when i remove the "when" bit it works fine and PEEM's purpose is to give me an action so i can pick up items from a tile

ill copy and paste every ID needed so I can tell if there are any typos

hold on, is it supposed to be "contains:" or "contains="?

[urban patrol]

=

[hard fern]

peem. lol

[sleek flint]

I asked for either torches or lamps, and these ones in the picture were actually the ones I needed.

[dusk mulch]

Oh, In that case it is Maps/Mines/mine.png

[sleek flint]

Ya I already found them. Thanks again.

[tiny zealot]

@dusk mulch i figured out the problem. SNF is returning the token data incorrectly (it looks correct, but it's not). i'll put out a patch fix when i can

in the meantime, you can use ActionsOnFirstRead to set a mail flag or something, and check that instead of the note status, to get it working right away

[cinder ether]

hey folks, is there a convenient way to search for textures already included in the game's content folder? Sometimes I find it difficult to pin down certain things (such as cooking recipe icons being in springobjects! took me ages to find that). Perhaps some sort of website that helps you search based on the texture you're looking for?

[tiny zealot]

.q 6218

[patent lance]

#6218

It's not in Cursors
There's no way it's in Cursors
... it was in Cursors

• @tiny zealot (Jump)

Aug 2, 2024, 4:27 AM

[brave fable]

there is no such way 🙂‍↕️

[tiny zealot]

that's a joke but the real answer is not really. ask the brain trust on here is the fastest way

[brave fable]

after a while you'll get a feel for it. helps if you're looking at all the spritesheets all the time

[cinder ether]

fair enough, I'll probably start keeping a lookup for myself so I can find them easily

[dusk mulch]

oh alright, ty!

Are mail flags hardcoded?

[tiny zealot]

no, you can add your own mail flag whenever you want

[dusk mulch]

just realised how mail flags worked, idk how i didnt get that

ty!

[lucid iron]

@urban patrol well idk if u figured the SC version but here ya go u can now do relative map overrides https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/releases/tag/1.13.0-rc.2

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/1.13.0-rc.2/[CP] MMAP Examples/map_override.json#L50-L60

[urban patrol]

i did not, hell yeah!

[lucid iron]

so u are still only allowed to apply {{ModId}}_Chimkins_Relative one time to the map

and if u do remove it's still that id regardless of where u applied it at

[urban patrol]

but i could do {{ModId}}_Chimkins_Relative1 {{ModId}}_Chimkins_Relative2 {{ModId}}_Chimkins_Relative3 on one map?

[lucid iron]

sure

[urban patrol]

sick

let me test it

[lucid iron]

its just that i dont want ambiguity when it comes to removing

i may change this later tho, gonna sit on the thought for a while

helps if u can tinker and tell me what u want to do with it

[urban patrol]

what is it relative to? i'm calling it in a trigger action which is triggered manually by a tile action

[lucid iron]

it's relative to the player's TilePoint when it's a trigger action

(and relative to the tile of the tile prop when it's a map action)

[urban patrol]

hmm so i should make it a touch action then probably

[lucid iron]

yea its more stable that way

[urban patrol]

warp player with BETAS to touch action tile -> touch action reveals map

okay hang on let me rewrite stuff

[lucid iron]

i did also make wrphere take a relative arg

didnt test that so hoping it just works lol

mushymato.MMAP_WrpHere 12 32 -1 false true

the last bool is the one that says "this be relative"

[urban patrol]

while i'm at it i can test that too

i didn't test the BETAS version of it yet either

[dusk mulch]

I've managed to make the mail but it's just that... mail. How do I hide it so I can use it as a mail flag?

[urban patrol]

don't give it an entry in Data/mail

[dusk mulch]

So I use the addmail trigger action without giving it an entry?

[brave fable]

when you use AddMail or an equivalent action, it's setting the mail flag. it just so happens that if there's also a Data/mail entry for that same id, it'll be added to your mailbox

[dusk mulch]

alright, ty!

[late pewter]

Well shoot, I think I need to patch a map...

[urban patrol]

hmmm well big problem my tiledata don't seem to be working

[lucid iron]

are they not getting plonked down to the map

[urban patrol]

did i format these correctly?

    "Id": "{{ModId}}_DungeonDoors",
    "Trigger": "Manual",
    "Actions": [
        //"Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WarpFarmer [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterLocation Farmer] [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterCoordinate Farmer X] [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_NumberOffset [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterCoordinate Farmer Y] -3]",
        "mushymato.MMAP_WrpHere 0 -3 -1 true true",
        "mushymato.MMAP_UpdateMapOverride + {{ModId}}_Door1Override", // remove override on exit
        //"Spiderbuttons.BETAS_TriggerAction {{ModId}}_DungeonDoorSpawnChance"
    ]
},```

oh mismatch hang on

that would be why

[lucid iron]

usually i use LA with tile lookup on in game first

to make sure me data's in

[urban patrol]

let me turn that on, i was pressing f1 to no avail

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c57ca39e10084096ac61774213e3d6b6 okay yeah unless it's another typo...

let me make the trigger action play a sound or something to check if it's even triggering

however i don't even see the hand to interact

[shut edge]

"Query: '{{LocationName}}' LIKE 'DLX.PIF_MINE_cryomancer.fishfactory_FishFactory*'": true

if i wanted to add another location to this, how would that look?

a specific location at that, i'm making a building version of a PIF room

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f93ed4a5a8c74351a239057925acfe26

i guess they would just be cryomancer.fishfactory_fishfactoryT0, just not sure how the syntax goes there

[brittle pasture]

you can use OR

({{LocationName}}' LIKE 'DLX.PIF_MINE_cryomancer.fishfactory_FishFactory*) OR ({{LocationName}} LIKE cryomancer.fishfactory_fishfactoryT0*)

added parentheses just in case

[shut edge]

thank you

the tiers are just T0,T1,T2 so T* should be fine right

[urban patrol]

ok yeah @lucid iron walking over this tile does nothing, but i'm having other (probably) unrelated issues with the other tiledata so ?? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/804462800235528282/1460498243975643339/image.png?ex=6967227c&is=6965d0fc&hm=f8f8fe187b70be5c2ac39ad46efc043a65d9330188b3fa6b94d92f1a91117893&

[shut edge]

i am also kind of assuming the game can handle me using the same maps for a PIF and a building, guess i'll find out soon lol

https://i.imgur.com/PO9O3CT.png

should i be concerned that your string is not getting the green formatting

i may have missed a comma or somethin

[urban patrol]

if it's >50 characters it turns white

[shut edge]

oh, weird

yeah validator says it's fine

[urban patrol]

yeah it's just a N++ thing

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/aS11ynl.png

well somethin there is borked i guess

worse it's not loading the maps so i'll work on that first

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah missing single quotes around the strings

('{{LocationName}}' LIKE 'DLX.PIF_MINE_cryomancer.fishfactory_FishFactory*') OR ('{{LocationName}}' LIKE 'cryomancer.fishfactory_fishfactoryT*')

[shut edge]

thank you kindly

ok yeah something with my dirs is funky

[lucid iron]

you need to use Action as the key i think?

or was it TouchAction im eepy

[urban patrol]

oh i'm forgetting basics ofc it's that

[lucid iron]

we can both be eepy

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/SdtuLwF.png

oh boy

how the f did i do that lol

that happens when i try to open the door into the building

PIF version still works at least

[urban patrol]

okay so good news the trigger action on the door works, except i get this error https://smapi.io/log/4d8d49b17f2948618a638ba07c2770ad the touch action still appears to do nothing. the traction is this:

    "Id": "{{ModId}}_DungeonDoors1",
    "Trigger": "Manual",
    "MarkActionApplied": false,
    "Actions": [
        //"Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WarpFarmer [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterLocation Farmer] [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterCoordinate Farmer X] [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_NumberOffset [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_CharacterCoordinate Farmer Y] -3]",
        "mushymato.MMAP_WrpHere 0 -3 -1 true true",
        "Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlaySound crystal",
        //"mushymato.MMAP_UpdateMapOverride + {{ModId}}_Door1Override", // remove override on exit
        //"Spiderbuttons.BETAS_TriggerAction {{ModId}}_DungeonDoorSpawnChance"
    ]
},```

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.4.0 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Windows 11 (10.0.22631.0), with 22 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[shut edge]

oh maybe i have to actually set some locations now that it's not just PIF

that could explain things

or wait is that even still a thing?

[brittle pasture]

i'm on bed now so cant help more but you shouldnt need to

(e.g. the vanilla sheds)

[shut edge]

have a nice rest, thanks again

yeah i was thinking i haven't needed to do that before

[lucid iron]

does it do nothing even if u walk over it after the warp

oh actually u missed an arg

[urban patrol]

well the warp doesn't happen :P

for which?

[lucid iron]

mushymato.MMAP_UpdateMapOverride Here + {{ModId}}_Door1Override

[urban patrol]

ahhh ok let me fix

[lucid iron]

oh u mean the WrpHere doesn't work?

[urban patrol]

correct

[SpaceCore] Trigger action handwrittenhello.dbda_DungeonDoors1 failed: required index 4 (string toPoint > y) has value 'true', which can't be parsed as an integer

[lucid iron]

oh yea why did i write it like this lol

i made the trigger action require 2 more args for origin point but that defeats the purpose

[urban patrol]

silly chu

[lucid iron]

didnt test this one either /lh

[urban patrol]

that's what i'm here for

[lucid iron]

truly this is fuck-around-and-find-out driven development

[shut edge]

isn't all dev

[urban patrol]

the worst part is i can't even test quickly for you because sc dungeon requires game restart + new save every time

[lucid iron]

if it still no work then it'll have to wait for tmr cus i actually eep right after this 1 thing

Have More Kids now has a basic sprite only template for anyone hoping to do simple convert from existing baby/toddler replacers!
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/36459?tab=files

Ah shoulda mentioned it's misc files alas

[hard fern]

oh. inverted baby.

[lucid iron]

the ybab

[urban patrol]

pffft i was going too fast and it mayyy have worked? i can't seem to recreate it with the other two but i'll test more. in regards to the warp, it dumps me at the dungeon spawn-in point

i clipped thru walls and may have accidentally stepped on it

[hard fern]

is that a haunted apartment?

[lucid iron]

Hm sounds like some nonsense with points that I'm not handling correctly

[urban patrol]

p much, it's called the doll house

[lucid iron]

Just use the betas one tbh

[urban patrol]

may also be a spacecore override thing

[lucid iron]

Oh actually

[urban patrol]

since it makes me define where to spawn

[lucid iron]

Maybe try false?

[urban patrol]

oh hm ok

[lucid iron]

False on arg 3, the mode that skips fade to black

[urban patrol]

WAIT i'm stupid i had commented out yours, uncommented out BETAS

so it's betas that doesn't work

let me reverse that

[lucid iron]

Oh i mean i think the mode that does the fade would work the same way

Only the no fade to black mode might make difference

[urban patrol]

no i mean literally i wasn't testing yours 🙃

[lucid iron]

Yeah and i was saying me and button probably both just call Game1.warpFarmer

[urban patrol]

oh i see

[lucid iron]

For the fade to black case

I made no fade to black bc it doesn't proc smapi warp events

Lets me go upstairs in kisaa farmhouse seemlessly

[lucid mulch]

one day I should go back to my Debugger mod, but I simply struggle with it as I don't actually make content packs myself

[lucid iron]

What's ur 2027 projects list sinz

[lucid mulch]

well I've stopped playing osrs until further notice, so its just a case of motivation to do so instead of playing the backlog of singleplayer games

[lucid iron]

(to be fair i don't think the debugger as awesome as it is helps with nic's elaborate rube goldberg nonsense)

[lucid mulch]

Debugger could automatically generate those red comments

[urban patrol]

YOOOO

it did take me moving to trigger the touch action but i'm more than ok with that

[lucid iron]

You can probably use BETAS delay action for that

Like just queue up the map thing for 100ms after

[urban patrol]

100 ms after touching it?

[lucid mulch]

Debugger is allowed to have semantic knowledge of assets and apply more semantic rules on them, and throwing a parser at it is possible.

though 1.6.16/1.7 only adds EventValidator metadata, not GSQ/Action

[lucid iron]

Does mean ppl might go zoom and mess up the room tho hrm

[lucid iron]

Naw i mean inside the trigger action block itself

[urban patrol]

but it has to be on touch action for the relative points

[lucid iron]

Well it's known that

1. No fade to black warp is essentially instant
2. Farmer gonna be on the right tile after warp
3. Trigger action version of map override is relative to farmer

Hm actually since the position of farmer already changed...

It might even just work™ with no delay?

[shut edge]

that looks cool

[lucid iron]

I dunno u can fiddle with it

[urban patrol]

ye you go sleep

i think this will work for now and people can just Deal TM. nobody touches a door and then just sits there in blackness forever, they'll move eventually

[lucid iron]

Do u actually have to move off the tile then back

[urban patrol]

no not back, just move at all

[lucid iron]

That's probably fine then

[urban patrol]

i think. the other 2 aren't working so i just have one data point lmao

[merry river]

ghost baby

[urban patrol]

this would be useful for times when i make a stupid mistake but there's not obvious log output :P

[lucid mulch]

Debugger shows its info directly in vscode

[urban patrol]

👀 i'd consider switching for that

[shut edge]

man i can't seemt o track down this error

[lucid mulch]

been quite awhile since I've last worked on it it seems

[urban patrol]

oh sick it parses tokens?

[lucid mulch]

it technically doesn't parse anything, its exposing the runtime CP diagnostics back to the editor

[urban patrol]

still really handy to be able to quickly see their value

[shut edge]

hmm this problem persists if PIF is disabled even

[lucid mulch]

the debugger mod also has a schedule visualizer in it too

[shut edge]

so wtf is up with my building

that's cool lookin

[urban patrol]

oh my god if i don't have to spend 4 irl hours following these assholes around...

[lucid mulch]

I don't think I simulate void warping correctly, but that schedule visualizer code is ancient, it was a miracle how little changes it needed for 1.6 compat

[shut edge]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9f3b68e3043e4777b604ed2c96501edf

anyone see why my building doors would just error out from this?

[lucid mulch]

define error out

and im assuming all the buildings have the issue?

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/x9pucnY.png

these new ones i'm making all do it, yeah

none of my previous mods have ever done this

[lucid mulch]

what is the Warp map property in PIF/fishfactoryT0, PIF/fishfactoryT1 and PIF/fishfactoryT2

[shut edge]

where would i check that

[lucid mulch]

in their tmx files

a building interior needs a warp to leave the building to know where to put them into the building

[shut edge]

oh yknow that might be it

good call

i probably need to just clone the maps and change those to the usual farm data

cuz they are currently going to the PIF doors

[lucid mulch]

taking a brief look I believe its blowing up on this line

Game1.warpFarmer(interior.NameOrUniqueName, interior.warps[0].X, interior.warps[0].Y - 1, Game1.player.FacingDirection, isStructure);

where interior.warps is empty, so its trying to access a warp that doesn't exist and raises an ArgumentOutOfRangeException as a result

[shut edge]

makes sense

ok yeah you were correct, thank you

...now if i could remember how to change the spot you spawn in to aaa

that also seems like something i've not had to actually set before, hmm

[shut edge]

ok there's that. now i just need to actually make it so i can build in these things, lol

[shut edge]

hm was there really no other way than PIF to do building in indoor maps

...and now one of my exits is instant warping to bed??

maybe i'm too tired for this

[tame burrow]

Sorry for the late reply!! I'll take a peekypeek in a couple days. Haven't had a free second to mod in a couple weeks

[blissful panther]

PEEM is just MEEP but... flipped.

And it's not a beta version, it's just the feature skeleton of MEEP stripped out and one single feature slapped on top because I didn't have time to integrate it into MEEP properly.

In hindsight, the name was pretty likely to cause confusion...

[dusk mulch]

I love confusion! /hj

[deep cypress]

The Horse: 1 wide right and left, 2 wide up and down. Is there a gameplay reason for this? Like, preventing trapping?

[fossil osprey]

No, it's just janky horse iirc

[lucid iron]

Arguably balance cus horse faster?

[lucid iron]

Oh apryll can u merge in some fixes from free love

There's the mermaid pendant ofc but also usage of cangetpregnant in the pick personal farm event that i asked erinthe for some months back https://github.com/aedenthorn/StardewValleyMods/blob/4c5a0066c923ebf0dac06a16e9bde68177ae3978/FreeLove/Pregnancy.cs#L18

[next plaza]

I don't consider it a late reply until it's been a week or something. 😛

No rush, just let me know so I don't make things explodey for y'all

[next plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-mulan-dishonor-on-you-dishonor-on-your-cow-gif-15086496

[blissful panther]

My poor cow!

[next plaza]

vanishes when I'm needed the most

[deep cypress]

Sure! Let me see what's going on!

[lucid iron]

What was the peeem feature i completely forgor

[blissful panther]

It was a sort of... tile interaction that gives you an item with a customisable cooldown.

Only reason it didn't get put into MEEP is because I didn't have time to come up with a nice... clean more feature-global cooldown type system. It felt wrong having a feature that relied on something like that without also making it something a future system could use.

[lucid iron]

The postfix there used to be a prefix and I patch it for compat reasons in have more kids, easier if i can use same patches for both
The mermaid pendant thing you have a PR for i think? It's somewhere inside the NPC try receive object patch

[lucid iron]

Hm isn't that just doable with a stat

[deep cypress]

Utility_pickPersonalFarmEvent_Postfix This one, right?

[lucid iron]

Yep it's what i linked earlier

[blissful panther]

...wait, custom stats on the player are a thing? I ended up just going with modData on the player.

Either which way, I wanted something a bit more generalised before I added it to MEEP proper!

[lucid iron]

Yeah u can just incrementstat whatever you want

And when u incrementstat -1 down to 0 it automatically goes away

[calm nebula]

may I point out conversation topics are the general cooldown system teh game uses

I may point it out

it will, as usual, be ignored

[lucid iron]

I don't like them they don't appeal to the programmer brain

[calm nebula]

emoji are annoying on PC

[lucid iron]

Same way i try not to acknowledge blank events used to be the mail sender

[calm nebula]

eh, the entire game is like that

from "the dialogue box is blinking bat eyes" to "single pixel in the moon used for the drinking animation"

mailflags vs NetWorldState...

[tiny zealot]

god i'm so glad this era is over

[lucid iron]

ipretendnottosee.png

[tiny zealot]

i still have a thing using modData that could (should) be a stat, but in my defense it dates from before stats were a thing

[ocean wave]

is the slime sprites 16x16 i cant tell

[calm nebula]

haven

stats been a thing since 1.5

[ocean wave]

is that to me

[tiny zealot]

if they were (i don't think so), they weren't as easily accessible due to no tractions

or perhaps it wasn't a thing you could extend? like maybe there were just the n hardcoded stats

anyway the point is converting my thing to a stat is on the ol' todo list

[calm nebula]

Stats were weird

There was a giant class with properties but at the very end there was a string, uint dictionary you could use

[vernal crest]

No they are 16x24. You can check this sort of thing by opening the files in your art program and drawing a grid from the top left that encompasses the whole of one frame without containing any other frames, like this

[lucid iron]

Game was always counting up monster kills with stats pretty sure

[calm nebula]

Tbh their sync is also pretty weird

[ocean wave]

tyy! im using procreate so it doesnt show automaticly

[calm nebula]

So I dont blame you for not using them

[vernal crest]

I don't think any programs show grids automatically. You have to do it yourself.

[deep cypress]

Working on it, I see the pull request is like two years old… i am sorry indeed!!!!!!!!! Also, my kid stole my computer, so this is going to take a while. But to summarize: i need to change the prefix into a post fix, is the only on the first? And for the second, implement the pull request for item 460? (It’s a patch in my life right now, sorry for the fog brain, but i just want to ensure I am doing what is needed!) 🙂

[lucid iron]

I think the code body changed too but you should be able to copy that whole method yeah

The PR u can just press merge on i think? If no particular conflicts

[tiny zealot]

when you make it through so much of your crimes mod without harmony but it turns out that you probably need a transpiler on a terrible function

i don't mind patches or transpilers in general but it's nice to avoid, especially for a thing that's chiefly about adding event commands, which is generally not a crime zone

[gray bear]

everything is a crime when you do it! /lh

[tiny zealot]

i have an alternative, which is copy-paste reimplement the terrible function. i'm not sure which one i like less /lh

[gray bear]

which one would get you more time behind bars?

[tiny zealot]

unclear. for now i'm doing reimplement, since i'm irrationally attached to not having smapi warn people that this mod is dangerous

[gray bear]

the danger isn't the mod, it's the author /j

wait does smapi warn about harmony mods

[tiny zealot]

honestly, it's probably a benefit that reimplementing this one dodges anybody else's harmony patches on it, since i sort of need it to work how it does in vanilla

yeah it says "these mods change the game code and are more likely to be unstable and cause problems" and lists all the mods that have harmony enabled

[gray bear]

ohh so that's what that warning means

i mean i have a bunch of those and i care not usually

[tiny zealot]

the warning is true, but i assume every mod user doesn't even see it due to alarm fatigue at this point, since nearly everyone uses such a mod (e.g. spacecore), so i don't think it's useful

[gray bear]

spacecore has never hurt me

[tiny zealot]

i do not use it, but i picked what i assume is the most widely-used mod with harmony enabled

[vernal crest]

And then you get the users who see the warning and take nothing from it but "this mod is dangerous and will break your game!" so then they blame every single mod error on SpaceCore

[tiny zealot]

also that ^

[iron ridge]

or the people who say spacecore has been useless for the last 19 months

[gray bear]

why must users

[lucid iron]

The other day i searched pathos' repo and found only 4 harmony patches

Across all of them

[merry river]

i dont understand enough about harmony to join the conversation in a meaningful way but i gotta love how sometimes harmony mods cause the game to fail until i remove one of them and add it back, sometimes with another. i do not understand what is going on. i am afraid to ask

[tiny zealot]

oh, nobody understands that one

[lucid iron]

!harmonybug

[tiny zealot]

sometimes if you do too much harmony the library goes "aw shit" and you get an AVE and it's not consistent

[lucid iron]

Where

Yeah sometimes i fix that just by recompiling the mod in release mode and im ??? about it

[tiny zealot]

usually just rebooting fixes it. or swapping mods in and out

[merry river]

the first time i encountered that error i panicked and thought i had broken(????) my game fr

[tiny zealot]

i have never hit it myself but i think i am usually way under the threshold (chronic few-mods user)

[merry river]

is that command supposed to work

[vernal crest]

I just restart the game with no changes and that usually fixes it for me

[merry river]

i encountered it twice, restarting never helped so i had to swap out mods. harmony go brrr

[lucid iron]

Yeah i forgor what the command is called

[vernal crest]

I am lucky to have never needed to remove a mod even though I've had AVEs dozens of times

[low marlin]

Are HMK compatible with custom farmhouse maps like Aimon’s - Unlike LittleNPCs?

[lucid iron]

Why is littleNPC not compatible?

[low marlin]

Some users said if they use a farmhouse map like Aimon’s farmhouses, the child NPCs won’t be able to make their way out or something

[lucid iron]

Hm well i guess hmk would be compatible

The NPC version never enters your farm

If you see kid in farm or house then it's the real Child

I have seen the Child get stuck on trying to get out of house but it's a purely visual thing, NPC will be outside even if that doesn't work

[low marlin]

What do you mean in that case?

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/blob/main/docs/000-overview.md#leaving-the-farmhouse

[summer spoke]

Is there a website that lists out the sprite's names or something? I'm trying to get Vincent to sleep, but I think I'm missing something.

[lucid iron]

hmk actually manages 2 entities that are your kid

• the Child that runs around really fast in your house and farm
• the kid NPC, who is a normal NPC in all regards except for where their character data comes from

Going outside actually means Child becomes hidden, kid NPC becomes visible

[summer spoke]

Or should I change NPCs to another one if that's what I'm going for?

[lucid iron]

If a Child fails to make it to the door in 10mins then HMK gives up on that and directly skips to toggling the visibility state

So there's no case where they'd be stuck at the door

[ocean wave]

where would i find mob drops,,

[lucid iron]

I imagine all this complexity explodes with quicksave/save midday mods tho

[brittle pasture]

depends™; most drops are in Data/Monsters, but stuff like monster-agnostic drops and slime color drops are hardcoded, and any monsters spawned by FTM have drops defined in the relevant FTM pack

what's the context

[ocean wave]

wanted to dumbify the slime dop texture

[brittle pasture]

the what

[ocean wave]

slime drops*

[brittle pasture]

I was assuming drops = actual loot drop

[ocean wave]

yea

[brittle pasture]

Maps/springobjects then if you're talking graphics

[iron ridge]

how would one go about manipulating the rgb values of drawn pixels?

[lucid iron]

Do u have to do individual pixels

I think this is usually a shader problem

[calm nebula]

Mathy mathy

[ocean wave]

im guessing its 12x12?

[calm nebula]

Or more mathy mathy

Or convolution math

[brittle pasture]

all object sprites are 16x16

set your editor's grid to that size and edit the coordinates of the object you want

[ocean wave]

i meant 16, mb

am looking at a video that was 12 mins

[pale river]

he doesn't have one

Jodi checks on him at 1am and he's not sleeping 😭

[tiny zealot]

i started getting baffling CIL invalid program and Bad IL Range exceptions from my normal C# code and i thought i fucked something up real bad but it turned out it was hot reload problems

sometimes a cold reload is the ticket 😌

[ocean wave]

if i want to many edit images for code, how would one do that? im getting red lines when trying

[fossil osprey]

You forgot some comas

[ocean wave]

even then though

[fossil osprey]

And then, I think you can just fuse both Changes array?

I mean, it's an array, so you can put more than one dict inside

[ocean wave]

wdym,,

[fossil osprey]

Instead of

Changes: [
    {
        props
    }
],
Changes: [
    {
        props
    }
]

Do

Changes: [
    {
        props
    },
    {
        props
    }
]

[ocean wave]

OHHH

okay tyy

btw would it be charchters/monsters/igslime?

[fading walrus]

Do not do the format line twice, it only needs to be at the top of the json

[ocean wave]

[ocean wave]

[fossil osprey]

if that's where it is, then yes

[fading walrus]

!unpack you wanna unpack the game and take a look to find the answer for this

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[ocean wave]

i have it up- i didnt know if it should e jsut chacters or monsters too

[heavy pewter]

How much overhead does state monitoring actually does when using UpdateTicked? Im checking if this boolean field is true before executing the logic

[lusty halo]

Some shenanigans are happening with the new CP Mask code. It is most certainly my fault, as the original woodpile texture should be fully hidden, according to the update, so I probably fumbled with the code somewhere. Ah well, back to coding...

[calm nebula]

Can see code?

[tiny zealot]

very little overall, but every bit of work you do every frame makes it harder to hit frame windows

[lusty halo]

{ "Action": "EditImage", "Target": "Maps/townInterior", "FromFile": "assets/Accents/Accents_Mask.png", "FromArea": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 512, "Height": 1088 }, "ToArea": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 512, "Height": 1088 }, "When": {"UseMod": "True", "Farmhouse Accents Changes": "True", "LocationName": "Cellar"}, "Update": "OnLocationChange", "Patchmode": "Mask", }, { "Action": "EditImage", "Target": "Maps/townInterior", "FromFile": "assets/Accents/{{Cellar_Beams_Color}}.png", "FromArea": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 512, "Height": 1088 }, "ToArea": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 512, "Height": 1088 }, "When": {"UseMod": "True", "Farmhouse Accents Changes": "True", "LocationName": "Cellar"}, "Update": "OnLocationChange", "Patchmode": "Overlay", },

uh. looks weird sorry I forgot how to put code in here

[tiny zealot]

i tend to avoid updateticked unless i really need to do something every frame

[lusty halo]

it's basically what the example says to do in the patch notes but I often fail at reading code since English is my second language

ah heck I forgot, there's two layers, the one with the woodpile and caskets is after the layer for the floor.

so there's another mask and overlay sprite -under- the woodpile sprite, basically. not sure f it's relevant

I haven't split all the layers so they aren't supposed to be all the same color I'm basically testing the code before I do all that work

[calm nebula]

No that feels like it should be right

Is 512/1088 the full texture

[tame burrow]

Will do!!

Before I forget for the millionth time - the dungeons seem wonky for farm hands. Monsters freeze and they can't pick up items

[lusty halo]

yeah it was the easiest way to test the code

[tiny zealot]

(NPC shenanigans) how do the vanilla NPCs with no beach outfit entry in their Appearance data actually change into their beach outfits?
i'm doing some time wizardry and NPCs can get warped to ginger island (following their schedule), but they don't change into their swimsuits and calling ChooseAppearance() has no effect. any idea how i should tell them to change?

[lusty halo]

I will try to have these sprites in a separate smaller sheet later

[calm nebula]

It's handled by a bool set by a change_swimsuit (or smth like that) animation

[calm nebula]

(BTW, I dont think your doing anything wrong, I'm just remembering what the code paths used to be)

[lusty halo]

so it turns out that the Mask covering sprites around the map borders (aka that 'spills over' to the black zone around a map ) need to be almost invisible- I put it to 1% opacity- or they show random textures, whereas the Mask that cover the insde of a map (like the woodpile and barrels -i remembered the right name- need to be fully visible -100% no opacity. For some reason. Anyway now it seems to be working?

[gaunt orbit]

You can use a stopwatch to time a specific bit of code. visual studio also has a cpu profiler,if that's the ide you're using

In general c# is very fast, though, so unless you're doing something with high time complexity, large volumes of information, or loading textures, it should be fine

[calm nebula]

remind me in 6 days to look.

[patent lance]

sorry to clarify how accurate do you need that reminder to be? (#7029650) (6d | <t:1768845252>)

[calm nebula]

Thanks, botto

[lusty halo]

see the floor spilling over, the Mask for that is 100% fully visible. If I out it to 1% it doesn't show up.

[calm nebula]

(The reason why I asked? Full width textures have a fast path.)

[lusty halo]

Ooooh coding shenanigans I will never understand but will always fully appreciate the work put into them to, well, work. It's fine and it's not urgent at all, it still works fine with a workaround so it's no problem even if it can't be adjusted. 😄

[ocean wave]

i love your pfp oh em gee eated

[lusty halo]

Forr the full width textures, I need to use it since the townInterior spritesheet has the textures all over the place, for the beams and floor for the farmhouse and cellar, so the new mask thing is perfect to save space and loading time since I don't have to write 20 separate codes anymore, so I don't mind if I have to adjust the opacity in weird ways for each layer so long as it still works. 😄

[ocean wave]

with content patcher, is there a way to add a face to big slimes without c#?

[calm nebula]

No, what you want should work!

[ocean wave]

is that to me,,

[lusty halo]

If there's a spritesheet for big slimes you can do an overlay and add the smile on them with Content Patcher

[ocean wave]

i wanted to use the same expressions like the smaller slimes

[lusty halo]

It should be possible but I don't know where the big slime images are located in the game files so I can't check myself, but again, if they exist, they should be able to be edited. People edit the game monsters and slimes all the time

[ocean wave]

wdym? like add the faces to the sprite itself [copy ofc]

hey do have a sprite ! i made a custom texture but it looks so wonky without face

they*

[lusty halo]

You need to find out where the images for the big slimes are located in the game file, and edit them in your art program of choice to add the face to it.

[ocean wave]

would i do it on the side like the other slimes?

is the file

[lusty halo]

!ContentPatcher

[ocean wave]

i would draw it ON the slimes correct?

i know how to use content patcher, im just confused on how to add the face

[lusty halo]

Copy the slimes, draw the face on them on a separate layer so you are sure they are positioned right, then delete the slime layer and keep the face one, then use CP to overlay the in-game slime sprite.

I cannot tell you how it would look like but that's how I would do it

[ocean wave]

im asking abt if i can do different expressions like the small slimes do

[lusty halo]

ah my English comprehension fails me once again

[ocean wave]

idk why its not showing that well but small slimes have different expressions. im asking if i can add that

[lusty halo]

My deepest apologizes. I have no idea if you can add different expressions that changes dynamically like the smaller slimes, at most you can add a "random" code so it is a different one each time you encounter them but that's all I can say about it, I'll leave the rest to actual coders. Sorry for wasting your time.

[ocean wave]

nono im sorry for wasting your time!! D:

[lusty halo]

it's not a waste, if I can help with something -and- I have the time to do it, I speak up, today I couldn't but it happens, don't worry about it. I hope you'll work it out eventually! 😄

[ocean wave]

cause liek you can see how it looks off

[hard fern]

If the big slimes have no expression, then i doubt you can give them one in the same manner as the small slimes

[ocean wave]

[calm nebula]

Possibly with spacecore texture overrides

[verbal narwhal]

https://github.com/camiska/PregnancyOdds/releases/tag/expanded1.0.0

sorry it took me so long, here is the compiled mod!

[lilac scaffold]

Morning all. I recently updated my mod to use ItemQueryResolver.TryResolve(fruit, queryContext, logError: (query, msg) => monitor?.Log($"Failed to parse Fruit Tree item query '{query}': {msg}", LogLevel.Warn));, however I'm receiving some reports that players are now seeing this error from the game Failed parsing condition 'LOCATION_IS_OUTDOORS Target': no location found matching 'Target'. I assume it is because I'm trying to do this resolve at start instead of while in game. Is there anyway to suppress this error or change my TryResolve call to ignore whatever conditional parsing is happening?

[brittle pasture]

i browsed your code and it seems like you're trying to cache the result of what a fruit tree produces via its data and using that cache instead of just getting the actual fruit being saved on the tree

is there any particular reason to go that route, or is it a legacy thing from 1.5

because I recommend tearing all that out and just call FruitTree.fruit

same with wild trees and etc.

to answer your question, the error happens because mod authors can add conditions to fruit tree produce, one of which is whether the tree is outdoors or indoors, and if you're preemptively calculating that the moment the asset is ready (which will happen before a save is loaded) you won't get that data

[lilac scaffold]

The caching is done because I allow players to have config toggles for everything that could be foraged

And I'm trying my best to parse everything at launch time to allow for config with GMCM at title screen

[brittle pasture]

like you have config values for every possible fruit that could be produced?

[lilac scaffold]

yes

[uncut viper]

you'll never be able to guarantee a complete knowledge of what is forageable at launch

[lilac scaffold]

how do you mean?

[uncut viper]

the data can change at any time during gameplay

including adding new data that previously did not exist

[lilac scaffold]

Sure, that's fine. Any content files that are relevant I have watchers on. I'm tryign to get as much as I can at launch.

[brittle pasture]

though, hmm, if you're just calling TryResolve it shouldnt care about Condition, unless the mod author set PerItemCondition

[lilac scaffold]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brittle pasture]

do you know which mod caused the error? setting PerItemCondition to LOCATION_IS_OUTDOORS is probably an inadvisable pattern
but worse comes to worst you can extract just the ItemId and RandomItemId fields and TryResolve those, if you only care about what possible items a fruit tree can make for the purpose of forming a config

[lilac scaffold]

The one I got a report on is Visit Mount Vapius

[brittle pasture]

oh wait no it's not (just) from PerItemCondition

forgor about stack modifiers

but yeah what i said

[lilac scaffold]

Yeah I think for the trees that probably the best bet. I'll work on that change.

Thanks for the insights

[brittle pasture]

you can look at the source for TryResolve (item query version) and see how it calls the TryResolve (string version)

[autumn tide]

hm, should folder names in a mod (other than the main on that you plop into the Mods folder ofc) avoid using spaces, or just filenames?

[pale river]

just file names

[autumn tide]

thanks!

[gaunt orbit]

I think it's fine in file names too? but I would avoid it for asset names or ids

[calm nebula]

It's probably fine for both asset names and file names but I would personally avoid it

[gaunt orbit]

well asset names and ids I mention specifically because some things are still space-separated in stardew and having spaces makes it impossible to reference something in those contexts

[uncut viper]

yeah definitely do not do it in asset names

[gaunt orbit]

this has bitten me more than once with audio cues

(a few of the vanilla ones have spaces in the name)

[pale river]

I consider assets the same as files, but better to avoid

am I doing the dependencies correctly?

[brittle pasture]

missing comma between the two blocks (note the red squiggles)

[ornate trellis]

yall i need a pair of eyes ive been staring at my includes for too long i dont find the missing filepath ending the validator screams about https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/af36e984441848a38106ffc53031dd8a#code.38

[pale river]

maybe remove the comma at the end?

[gaunt orbit]

it's gotta be that. I ran a regex and all the files have a json extension

[uncut viper]

(my search was even easier: find and replace ".json," -> ".json,\n", look for an odd line out )

[pale river]

I looked through it manually...

[ornate trellis]

damn

i was so focused on the filepath ending

[pale river]

if I want to test a mod without having the asset yet, how do I do that?

[ornate trellis]

hell yeah its fixed and everyone spawns in now, but i think this is time for a break

[calm nebula]

Bright magenta png?

Smiley face?

Scribbles?

[pale river]

good idea , but im going to see if randomly picking a sprite index out of the default tilesheet does anything. I don't understand sprite index or tilesheet size

😭 it's just a lil mouse

is there a wiki section on tileactions?

[hard fern]

sprite index = which 16x16 box your cursor is on/ are looking at on a spritesheet at any given moment

tilesheet size = the size of the tilesheet, in pixels (most art programs will tell you how large an image is)

for example, in a 64x64 sized canvas (which is the tilesheet size) if i had my cursor on the very top left box, that is sprite index 0, because all of them start from 0 at the top left, and go left -> right and then down to the next row's left -> right

[pale river]

thanks so much, that makes a lot of sense

[shut edge]

is there an obvious way to make a building that can have buildings made inside it i am forgetting?

[hard fern]

i dont know if this is actually a solution or not, but would it be possible to make some kind of big craftable that acts as a teleport 🤔

[shut edge]

feels like i have definately seen that done before but all i can think of is PIF

that could work in theory, yeah

i just keep seeing all these map property options and i'm like....why are these not doing this fairly obvious thing

like there's CanBuildHere

but that has to be outdoors

and setting things to count as outdoors doesn't work?

[hard fern]

sigh

i guess not

oh

maybe it is possible

i know there's some additional farms magic

that lets you choose where to place buildings at robin's

[shut edge]

yeah

maybe some form of making it count as a farm works, unsure

[hard fern]

if you were able to make the interior of a building into an additional farm maybe it might work?

[shut edge]

there is also "IndoorMapType": "StardewValley.Shed",

so i dunno if that like overrides stuff or what

allegedly that field is optional tho hmm

maybe i'll go eat first before attempting brain usage

a last ditch option might just be to make a building without a door that you can slap a PIF door onto i suppose? lol

[dusk mulch]

just noticed that the letter where robin offers to upgrade your house doesn't have a title

[autumn tide]

huh

[dusk mulch]

unless its an SDE thing

[shut edge]

yknow a mod that would be nice is something to color code or categorize mail

[autumn tide]

the CP modders lie in wait, hoping their scope creep trap may ensnare a stray C# modder..

[shut edge]

lol

[urban patrol]

mail data hasn't even been dehardcoded yet nor is it on the 1.6.16/1.7 migration guides :(

[shut edge]

ah, boo

i was already starting to think of how to do the graphics lol

[urban patrol]

i mean i can think of a theoretical way i (not a csharper) would do it (maybe something like context tags) but i have absolutely no idea of how to implement it

[shut edge]

i'm surprised mail is still that locked down considering how much it's used

CanBuildHere T
(valid in any outdoor location)

Outdoors T²
(valid in any location)

[urban patrol]

i think it's sort of an iceberg situation where we don't even know the beast that lurks beneath (mail flags, for example)

[shut edge]

you'd think this would do what i want

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah i don't think you can build in instanced locations

[shut edge]

hmm

would "NonInstancedIndoorLocation": help?

[calm nebula]

There is a c# mod that allows you

[brittle pasture]

then every building will open into the same map

i also do recall some mod that changes that but i'll be darned if i rember

[shut edge]

do you know the name?

[calm nebula]

Nope

[shut edge]

yeah this seems like a problem that's likely to have been solved by now right?

like PIF does all this stuff kinda

just not in the context of a buildable building

how 2 build buildings in my buildable building

[brittle pasture]

i think it's this? not a framework though https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21233

one of the screenshot shows a slime hutch inside a coop

[shut edge]

interesting

Jukebox still won’t work in the rain.

lol, odd

[uncut viper]

it's not hardcoded, it's just not a data model

[urban patrol]

i misspoke, yeah data model is what i meant

still a string :(

[brave fable]

it's fine, jukebox usually doesn't work 🥪

[shut edge]

[game] Location fishfactoryT0buildingd8aff6bc-4155-496c-a6e1-36f8b1a26e8a has the CanBuildHere map property set, but its AlwaysActive option is disabled, so building is disabled here.

oh, that's interesting

      "MapPath": "Maps/PIF/fishfactoryT1",
      "Type": "StardewValley.Locations.DecoratableLocation",
      "AlwaysActive": true```

so the PIF version has this

but the building version doesn't have location data

[brittle pasture]

it's been established that you can't do what you want unless you scope creep a framework modder into adding it

or just tell ppl to use Build Anywhere idk

[shut edge]

yeah that doesnt' work because of the above, unfortunately

like i'm testing stuff and i can build in like, the farm cave, but not my new buildings

[brittle pasture]

because the farm cave is not instanced

what you can do as a workaround in the mean time is having your building's interior be non-instanced, albeit with a build limit of 1, and maybe a couple clones in the building/location data if you want your users to build multiple

[shut edge]

build limit would be ok i think

[uncut viper]

you also don't really want to make locations always active willy nilly

it does come with a cost, it's not a free solution

unless you care 0% about multiplayer I guess

[shut edge]

like performance?

[uncut viper]

yes, and in this case especially network performance

[shut edge]

oh hey PIF doors can indeed be placed on their own eh

maybe i will just do the dumb workaround idea i had earlier then

good to know btw Button, thanks

genius or insanity, who could say

totally works too lol

feels like this maybe changes the scope tho. perhaps i should splinter the building off to it's own mod like "PIF shell buildings" or such

https://i.imgur.com/AALQujF.png

[shut edge]

that could be another day's project tho

this reminds me of that idea i had of making a "pond" barn for water animals with no exit door

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37866 updated

[ivory plume]

Milestone: the first-ever automated SMAPI build complete with downloadable zips and attestation, thanks to @blissful panther !

[autumn tide]

I have no clue what that means, but YAYYYY

[ivory plume]

The main benefits are...

• Significantly improved security:
  • It eliminates the risk of hidden malware infecting SMAPI releases.
  • The GitHub builds include attestations and SHA-256 file hashes, which allow verifying that a file (a) was compiled from the code on GitHub and (b) has not been tampered with.
• You can download a preview of the next SMAPI release anytime, since every develop commit results in an alpha build.
• It simplifies future planned work like signing builds to reduces Windows/macOS antivirus alerts.
• It lays the groundwork for doing the same for mod builds.

[gaunt orbit]

wow, nice! that's really cool!

[autumn tide]

I still don't get it but YAYY /silly

[gentle rose]

signing builds would be amazing, might finally put !macsmapi to rest

[shut edge]

anyone used spacecore's cooking recipe stuff before?

i see that it's an override, does that mean you need to make like a dummy vanilla recipe first?

[lilac scaffold]

Eyy this is great! will this lead to an official location for reference assemblies? or would those still need to be generated by mod authors?

Ah I see the repo on StardewModders github. very cool

[vernal crest]

Yes

[tender agate]

how do attestations work, anyone got a good tutorial explaining it?

[ivory plume]

An attestation is essentially a page on GitHub which includes all the info about how the release zip was created (Git commit, workflow file, build run, file hashes, etc).

You can download SMAPI, get the file hash for the zip locally, then double-check it against the attestation. If it matches, then it's guaranteed to be exactly what it says (e.g. nobody secretly compiled it from different code, added malware, tampered with the zip, etc).

For example, here's the attestation for the first dev build.

[tender bloom]

Very exciting! I am personally excited about the possibility of signing in the future

(Do I compile mods….nooo…maybe later?)

[lucid iron]

Would mods basically do the same kinda github cicd setup

I vaguely understand that u need these reference assemblies of game

Since u r not build against real assembly of game

[ivory plume]

Eventually yes. It's not quite possible yet without a few hacks (e.g. you need reference assemblies for SMAPI too), but that's one of the upcoming things I want to do.

[lucid iron]

I wonder if u can do this to detect incompatibility with android game ahead of testing it for reals

If there was an android ref assembly too

That if is ofc load bearing as hell

[ivory plume]

Not really. You could build the code against the Android version of the game assemblies, but you'd have false positives for anything SMAPI rewrites for compatibility.

[lucid iron]

True, ig ultimately the goal should not be 2 separate per platform builds anyhow

[nimble karma]

Question

I'm writing a compatibility patch (I annoyed everyone about it yesterday, lol). Now, I don't have the time to fully test and see if every single custom animal is working as it should, but I'm going to assume that since my JSON is valid and I followed their instructions the patches should work.

However, I noticed that despite me changing the housing of several animals they're still allowed to be placed in buildings they can't feed in. Is there any way I can guarantee that the "house" field on the other mod is ignored? Priority wouldn't help would it?

[brittle pasture]

does your mod have a false dependency on the other mods

that ensures your edits run after theirs (provided they're not using manual priority, which is rare)

[tender agate]

oh so attestations is for manual auditing. how would that improve security for the average user if they don't check for these things?

[nimble karma]

You mean in the manifest?

[brittle pasture]

yes

[nimble karma]

Ah, no it does not. (I'm making configs for another mod, I always wondered what the dependency false thing was about!)

Well, let me test what would happen if I put a mod ID as false underneath

[ivory plume]

There's three layers of security here:

1. The security that the release packager (me) applies. For example, making sure that my computer isn't infected with malware when I compile the executables. Having the builds generated by GitHub automates this, since SMAPI releases are no longer affected by the state of my computer.
2. The security that savvy players and mod authors apply. This includes checking attestations and file hashes. The vast majority of players won't do this, but if there's a problem someone will likely notice; so it's much harder to slip malware into a release with nobody noticing, and it guarantees that it matches the code so they can review that too.
3. The security that most players apply. This involves things like downloading from a reputable site, running an antivirus, etc. Attestations don't help with this, but having a GitHub build pipeline simplifies signing builds which will.

[tender agate]

ohhhhh, thank you, that makes a lot of sense.

[nimble karma]

Alright, I'm testing one of the compatibility patches after I updated the manifest

Hmm, it was still allowing me to put the animal in the coop

Stupid question: would putting "RequiredBuildings": "the same buildings" lock it out of the option to put it in the coop?

I'm wondering if it's just adding the two other buildings as optional locations to put the animal on top of the coop as opposed to excluding the coop

[brittle pasture]

RequiredBuilding is the building the farmer must have at least one copy of for the animal to be available

tl;dr no

what's your animal data look like

maybe one of those other mods adds extra eligible animals to the coop

[lucid iron]

I also forgor to reply timely sorry

I have given it some thoughts and at current time i feel tje best approach is to give you direct control over the timing of the kid question event on any children via API of some sort

I'm not sure what to do about the night time dialogue stuff though

[nimble karma]

            "Action": "EditData",
                    "Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
                    "Fields": {
                "Fellowclown.TAE_QuillbackSkunk": {
                "House": "HamioDracny.TCLE.CP_RabbitEnclosure, HamioDracny.TCLE.CP_BigRabbitEnclosure",
                },
            },
        },
        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "selph.ExtraAnimalConfig/AnimalExtensionData",
            "Fields": {
                "Fellowclown.TAE_QuillbackSkunk": {
                    "FeedItemId": "HamioDracny.TCLE.CP_VegetableFeed",
                    "OutsideForager": true,
                },
            },
        },

This is just a snippet of it, the example data I'm trying to edit is from Arcanian Exchange

In that mod the skunk goes in the coop, so I've been trying to figure out how to get it to be unavailable for placement there so anyone using the patch doesn't fuck themselves over

[brittle pasture]

House only accepts one value, you can't have comma-separated values, I don't actually know if that's responsible though

by "it still goes in the coop" do you mean new animals or existing ones

[nimble karma]

the skunk in the mod arcanian exchange goes in the coop in that mod. In this mod, which makes it so that different animals eat different things, I am trying to move it from the coop to the rabbit enclosure, since I'm trying to edit it to only eat their vegetables

[brittle pasture]

you can also run patch export Data/FarmAnimals to see the final form of the asset

I mean if you buy new skunks with your mod does Marnie still allow them in the Coop

[nimble karma]

Yep, that'

s what's got me scratching my head

I should clarify, I'm making patches for Hamio's The Cowboy Life Expanded mod. It's not my personal work lol

[brittle pasture]

in that case pls run the command and post the file it generates on smapi.io/json

[nimble karma]

alright

I'm going to change the skunk's house value to remove the second part, maybe it just couldn't read the code?

https://smapi.io/json/none/bec9820be52f43afbacaf89775631425

Hmm, interesting. It definitely isn't reading any of my patches

[brittle pasture]

try patch summary asset "Data/FarmAnimals" and post the output

[nimble karma]

hold on, I may have figured it out

I don't know how tf I did this, but the content file wasn't updated but everything else was when I downloaded the mod. I think I'm missing a config

Therefore, the mod just ignores everything I ask it to do

[soft lance]

Quick question, this may be the wrong channel, but I wanted to ask if a specific animal is in the vanilla game, or this might be old data from a mod that i found

https://tenor.com/view/uia-gif-10068905609672919810

this one right here

i was wondering if it was in the base game

thanks in advance <33

[brittle pasture]

no, I do not believe so. for future reference the wiki has a list of every animal in the base game

[soft lance]

(sorry it was a joke of the oia/uia cat)

(and i hope u have wonderful day)

[brittle pasture]

(that was also a joke )

[nimble karma]

Note to self: the simplest answer to all of my problems is that I simply copied or downloaded something wrong

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/7asfwhY.png

woo

starting to get there

[nimble karma]

[Content Patcher] Error loading patch 'A Vida de Vaqueiro Expandida > Include code/Compatibily/CustomAnimalsConfigs.json > Include Compatibily/DwarvenExpansion.json': file 'Compatibily\DwarvenExpansion.json' doesn't exist..

I'm so confused, why is it swapping the slashes then saying my file doesn't exist

[urban patrol]

did you mean Compatibility?

[nimble karma]

No, the guy who made the mod spelled it wrong and all the code references the misspelling lol

He's not english native so I'll allow it

[urban patrol]

so you named your folder that too?

[nimble karma]

Yes

[urban patrol]

ok just checking lol

[brittle pasture]

are you missing code/ at the beginning

seeing that your second log shows it

[nimble karma]

So, Compatibily is a folder inside the code folder

I'm wondering if there's an issue since there's a separate "compatibily" json made by the author in the folder of the same name

[urban patrol]

filepaths need to start at the same level your manifest and content.json are at

is A Vida de Vaqueiro Expandida your mod?

[nimble karma]

Nope

Sorry, read that too literally

[brittle pasture]

your mod does not care about how other mod organizes their files

[nimble karma]

Yes, it's the mod I'm patching

[brittle pasture]

unless these are just patches you're dropping into the mod folder as is?

but yeah what nic said

all paths are relative to the root

[nimble karma]

So yeah, he had one file for adding custom animals in that folder. I decided to split it up into a bunch of patches (as advised by nic) with the one file referencing the others in the folder.

so, just change the filepath so that it's referenced to the CP folder's manifest

[urban patrol]

did you create a mod with your own manifest and content.json in its own mod folder?

or are you inside the A Vida de Vaqueiro Expandida folder?

[brittle pasture]

you mentioned a manifest earlier so I assumed this was a separate mod, in which case what I said earlier applies

you need not be beholden to the original mod's spellings or file paths

[nimble karma]

I am testing it now, I just changed the path so it went back to the start of the CP folder

[nimble karma]

Their manifest lol. I'm just adding patches into one of their folders, it's by no means my creation

[brittle pasture]

hmm is this only personal

[nimble karma]

Maybe one day I'll make something really cool! But I'm not an artist and my wife isn't a pixel art girlie yet lol

[nimble karma]

The patches? I figured I'd make them to practice CP, and to of course use

[brittle pasture]

then proceed, but I'd say that porting all your changes into a separate mod is not that much of a step further, and would protect your changes (even if only personal) from further updates to the OG mod 😉

it's ultimately your choice

[nimble karma]

Well, I imagine once I'm done with these I was just going to send them to the creator and they can credit me if they want. I don't mind honestly!

Obv a thank you or something somewhere would be appreciated

[urban patrol]

honestly, you might be doing them a favor by publishing your compat patches between mods as your own mod lol! but yes up to you for sure

[nimble karma]

You know what? You've got a point, I'll PM them

[ivory plume]

The promise: "PowerShell runs on Windows, Linux, and macOS".

In practice:

if ($IsWindows) {
    # On Windows, mkdir creates parent directories automatically and the --parents argument isn't recognized.
    mkdir "$folderPath" > $null
}
else
{
    mkdir "$folderPath" --parents
}

[shut edge]

hmmm can i use a vanilla category for an ingredient item in a spacecore recipe override

just doing -5 didn't work

[brittle pasture]

you can't, have to use the category instead

[shut edge]

like as a context tag ingredient?

[brittle pasture]

yeah

a couple words got lost from that message

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/zwH0wVJ.png

ok that does work

thanks

guess i'll need to manually make a little egg (any) thing tho

[uncut viper]

(get fucked if you want to use any book in your recipe, then)

[urban patrol]

cornucopia recipes just did that i think

[shut edge]

yeah flexible cooking should make this mod i'm workin on easier to use

[brittle pasture]

sounds like a 1.6.16 ask (the book context tag)

[shut edge]

just annoying since vanilla HAS this

[brittle pasture]

yeah you do have to do it again

[shut edge]

but you can't use it in this context i don't think

[uncut viper]

i thought it had been but ive not downloaded 1.6.16 to check so i havent wanted to be the one to ask again

[brittle pasture]

it is definitely not in the (3 months old) source decomp

[uncut viper]

sounds like you get to be the one to ask again in february

[urban patrol]

does book_item not work?

[uncut viper]

sure, it works. what if i dont add it to my modded books tho

[urban patrol]

ah gotcha

[brittle pasture]

funnily enough that tag still gets a couple special checks in the code even though its presence is not enforced

[shut edge]

maybe i'll just set this to standard egg and the flexible can take the wheel from there

[uncut viper]

only two checks though and theyre very very inconsequential

[brittle pasture]

Flexible Recipes (if you're talking about the mod from six thousand four hundred and eighty) don't magically make your recipes work

[shut edge]

no, it will just be jerky + egg

but if you also have that, it should become any egg

if i understand correctly which is always a question

[brittle pasture]

if you're doing the work anyway why gate it behind another unrelated mod

[shut edge]

the context based cooking requires doing several extra steps

if i just use vanilla stuff mine will work fine but also optionally be enhanced by that mod yeah?

[brittle pasture]

so you're praying that 6480 makes a compat patch for your mod?

it's totally fine I just wanna confirm

[shut edge]

i don't think i have to even do that

i am adding context based jerky via my mod

as flex doesn't have that since it doesn't exist outside of this mod

i'm just using regular egg/cheese/vinegar etc and presuming flex will make those flex, i may yet be wrong

[brittle pasture]

no, I think you're severely misunderstanding how it works

Flexible Cooking is another CP mod using the feature

[shut edge]

if i could just use the category in spacecore i would

[brittle pasture]

like this is the one you're talking about right

[shut edge]

yes

it adds context tags to vanilla items

[brittle pasture]

eggs are already flex

[shut edge]

i could be wrong tbh

[brittle pasture]

like the game itself already has egg (any) recipes

[shut edge]

i did attempt to just add in the flex context tags but then you get in this situation where you need it's localization as well

yeah it does, which you do as -5 in a recipe

[brittle pasture]

hmm yeah that's more understandable (the string thing)

[shut edge]

maybe i should just try it, sec

[brittle pasture]

though for eggs you can just use the vanilla string in StringsFromCSFiles

[shut edge]

hmm that's an idea too

[brittle pasture]

LocalizedText my beloved (SC recipes do support it)

[shut edge]

i'll look at that next

thank

[uncut viper]

Swap different types of cheese, cooking oils, mushrooms, and anyt

[brittle pasture]

hmm red mushroom stir fried in truffle oil

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/W2KLzh4.png

ok i am indeed mistaken

thought flex would like intercept the vanilla cheese use for some reason, my bad

[brittle pasture]

yes, that's what I meant by Flexible Cooking being just another CP mod

[shut edge]

i guess it probably "does" that, for vanilla recipes

as in they did that manually

"CraftingRecipe.cs.572": "Egg (Any)",

this what i want?

[brittle pasture]

yes (in LocalizedText form)

[shut edge]

"OverrideText": "[LocalizedText CraftingRecipe.cs.572]",

like that?

[brittle pasture]

need the asset name

[LocalizedText Strings/StringsFromCSFiles:CraftingRecipe.cs.572]

[shut edge]

thank you

that's just the override text though, how do i make that the ingredient value, hm

https://i.imgur.com/mNagn9l.png

text does work, cool

guess i'll look at flex's docs

[brittle pasture]

you still need the icon

via override texture path and rectangle

[shut edge]

yeah that is easy enough

it's still just accepting standard egg though

oh i think i see

[brittle pasture]

with category_egg?

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/k2Mx4cx.png

there we go

so yeah the missing link here was the loc strings, thank you

uh oh no Cheese (Any) lol

that's ok i'll just make one

[nimble karma]

Alright, I've gotta go to bed soon so I'm not fixing the rest of this tonight. But I have a SMAPI log that confirmed that, while my patches were indeed read, not all of them were applicable

[ocean sail]

Log found, uploaded to: https://smapi.io/log/1db0e043892b4d2c908b38b83a9083af

[nimble karma]

However, notably this isn't every patch. Mods like SVE, East Scarp, and Camelus worked just fine for some reason

[brittle pasture]

you're probably missing the false dep for a fair few of them

[nimble karma]

Oh, I have it for none yet except, ironically, one of the mods in the didn't work pile

[brittle pasture]

probably should add for all of them then
the ones not working may also be because the animal in question is disabled

[nimble karma]

Disabled?

[brittle pasture]

some mods have configs to enable certain animals

just guessing though

[nimble karma]

It's so weird because a bunch of the patches clearly worked

hmm, I'll have to sleep on this. It's still progress, but I'm a little saddened lol

[shut edge]

hmm did my jerky context tag only work with flex enabled

that seems wrong somehow

oh, lol, opposite direction problem

didn't tag pork jerky with jerky_item

ah thats' a fun wrinkle, my recipe items are also tagged jerky_item and thus can be used to cook each other

not sure if that's wise

[nimble karma]

You're the best, it was absolutely that

Wait, replied to the wrong one

It was adding the extra mod configs in the manifest

[brittle pasture]

perpetual stew's lesser known cousin, perpetual jerky

[shut edge]

lol

i suppose i could change those to like, cooked_jerky_item?

[nimble karma]

Okay, well I'll play around with that tomorrow or Thursday, when I'm not dead tired. Thank you guys for your help!

[shut edge]

is there an existing convention for "this tag means this is a finished cooked item so don't use it"

[brittle pasture]

the item being category_cooking maybe

[shut edge]

"food_seafood" exists in vanilla it seems

andother similar ones, ok

so i'll just give those food_jerky

https://i.imgur.com/aCRkEn0.png

yeah there we go, rad. that's my cooking stuff done

now i just need to actually tackle my machine outputs aaaa

oh wait cheese_item is still being a hassle

right, cuz vanilla does not actually have a cheese_item tag or category

so either i make it just cheese as the regular item or i edit both cheeses to have the context tag, yeah i'll just go basic cheese then

[shut edge]

" invalid flavored item type (must be one of Wine, Jelly, Pickle, Juice, Roe, AgedRoe, Honey, Bait, DriedFruit, DriedMushroom, SmokedFish)."

is this stuff hardcoded?

[brittle pasture]

yes

if you want custom flavored objects use PreserveId/price modifiers/custom display name/custom internal name

cornucopia artisan machines has examples

[shut edge]

ah, smart. thanks

[low marlin]

For HMK, if I want to make a custom NPC kid that:

• Must be adopted via the adoption registry
• Isn’t adopted from a specific NPC

What can be inferred?

[sleek flint]

I am trying to think of a name for my mods. The first one is a framework that allows you to make custom channels, and the second is a mod that adds 2 new channels, with plans to update the vanilla channels too. Can someone help me?

[hard fern]

Custom TV channel framework and New TV channels

[shut edge]

i think there is a custom channels mod already with a similar name

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/24278

not updated for awhile tho

so maybe a new one would be nice yeah

[sleek flint]

Custom TV Channel Framework is too close to Custom Channel Framework. And New TV Channels isn't that fitting because my mod right now only adds 2 channels, but in the future, I am gonna do much more, and it's supposed to be a channel overhaul more than just more channels. Which is why I have been leaning towards something like Better TV Channels, but it seems a bit boring.

[shut edge]

Channel Surfin, Stay Tuned, something like that maybe

Cable Package

[sleek flint]

This one hasn't been updated in a while, and it's limited to what you can do with it, especially when you compared to mine.

[shut edge]

hell yeah good luck

[sleek flint]

Oh not bad.

[ornate locust]

If you're worried about Nexus search being ass, "Cable Package - Custom TV Channel Framework" or something like that is a way to go

[sleek flint]

I don't know why I didn't think of that

Thanks everyone.

[shut edge]

hmmmm how many pieces of meat should it require to make a bag of jerky

[hard fern]

An immeasurable amount of meat... I'd say maybe like 30 pieces?

[shut edge]

lol

is that why it's so expensive

i think i've got it set to double the edibility and quad the sell price of a single piece of the base meat

so maybe 2 or 3?

never been great at the balance part of modding

[ornate locust]

mood

[urban patrol]

yeah 2 or 3 i think

[shut edge]

looks like all vanilla dehydrator things do 5 items into 1 dried item, huh

wonder how the prices change

grapes go 80x5 (400) to raisins 600

shroom is 200 ->325

yeah i'm just gonna go with three i think

[hard fern]

Cant u just look in machine code

And find the multiplier

[shut edge]

i am yeah

"PriceModifiers": null,
"PriceModifierMode": "Stack",

so shrug

well i can always tweak that stuff later

[molten helm]

Hehehehehe

[shut edge]

item ID 666 is bacon eh

[molten helm]

why the hell is the pants spritesheet so big compared to others

[hard fern]

for special pants reasons of course

[molten helm]

alright

is it the different colours?

cause its a little hard to handle this for the 3ds

if i had everything in white i could just tint them

[urban patrol]

no it just genuinely is that many sprites

shorts, pants, long skirt, short skirt, grass skirts, bathing suit, etc

[molten helm]

goddamn

[hard fern]

there's 2 sets of the same pair of pants for both body types, for all pants

[molten helm]

alr

ill have to figure something out

i could split those into seperate files though

[shut edge]

almost modded right through missing work oops

thankfully was reminded early enough

[heavy pewter]

Whats the field to look for if player has unlocked the walnut room

[dusk mulch]

You could do "WORLD_STATE_FIELD GoldenWalnuts 100" to check if the player has 100 walnuts, since you need 100 to enter the room but ill see if there is a mail flag or something

give me a sec

There are 2 mailflags you could use, "FizzIntro" is raised when the player interacts with the perfection tracker for the first time and "HasTownKey" is raised when the key to the town is bought

both of which are in the walnut room

but they don't check specifically if the player has entered the room, just if stuff in the room has been interacted with

i love the mod list, makes it so much easier to find mod ideas and it helps people out

[brave fable]

it's very simple to check if you've entered the location, check PLAYER_VISITED_LOCATION at the bottom of Player info & progress
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries#Player_info_.26_progress

as for unlocked, the game really does just check if you've collected 100 or more golden walnuts

[dusk mulch]

oh yeah

i forgot about that lol

i was using ctrl+f and searching for "walnut" on the Game_State_Query wiki page

[heavy pewter]

I mean for here

        {
            if (//here)
            {
                Utility.TryOpenShopMenu(Game1.shop_qiGemShop, null, false);
            }
            else { Game1.drawObjectDialogue(Helper.Translation.Get("condition.qiGemShop")); }
        }

I cant find the right condition

[brave fable]

you can use if (IslandWest. IsQiWalnutRoomDoorUnlocked(out int actualFoundWalnutsCount)) { ... }

[west gyro]

Hello, sorry to bother you again, but I tried doing exactly what you suggested — using SetProperties and setting the value to null — and unfortunately it still doesn’t work 🙁

The player can still dig on that tile. I tested it carefully.

I also tested teleportation on the same tile, and it works correctly, so the code itself is being applied and executed properly.

[vernal crest]

Did you confirm using Lookup Anything that the diggable property has definitely been removed from the tiles?

[west gyro]

Hello! Honestly, I didn’t even know that Lookup Anything could show things like this 😨

Is this some kind of debug mode or something similar?

[vernal crest]

If you turn on Tile Lookups and Data Mining Fields it will give you lots of information about the tiles. I would show you an example but my Stardew just crashed lol

[west gyro]

Is it supposed to look like this, or am I checking the wrong thing?

[vernal crest]

You don't appear to be using Lookup Anything, or at least not in any form I'm familiar with. If you have it installed, you should be able to check the tile by pressing F1 on your keyboard.

[west gyro]

I only have Lookup Anything installed, and I can press F1 on an item or a character to see information🤔

[vernal crest]

Then that's what will work, have you gone to the settings in GMCM and enabled tile lookup and data mining fields?

[west gyro]

Maybe I’m using a different version of Lookup Anything? 🤔🫠

One sec

[vernal crest]

It won't do anything until you enable those

[west gyro]

Aaaaaaa

i found it

[vernal crest]

So it should show in the tileproperties (I think the name is something like that) that it doesn't have Diggable anymore

You can compare with a tile that should be diggable to check

[west gyro]

Hopefully, I’ll be able to figure out what I’m doing wrong now. Thank you so much!
I’ll check the tiles.

[west gyro]

I checked, but for some reason it’s still showing as true.

[vernal crest]

It's possible that the tile property is overriding the tile object property that you're setting in your json. Tile properties affect every instance of the tile, while tile object properties only affect the individual tiles the object is placed on.

It might be worth having a look through the spring_outdoorsTileSheet to see if there are any tiles that still have the appearance you want but which don't have the diggable tile property.

What map is this? Is it a custom farm map?

[west gyro]

Yes
custom farm map

[vernal crest]

You can control it then. Open up your map in Tiled and have a look through your tileset to see if there are any tiles that either don't already have the diggable property or which you don't use in any other places and can therefore remove the diggable property from it.

[west gyro]

Hmm, I understand. So you can add a property to a tile, but you can’t remove it through an object. That way, on back you can have a non-diggable tile, and on back2 you can use the one you need for the visual.

Is it something like that?

[vernal crest]

That's a better idea than what I was suggesting lol. Yes, put a tile without diggable on Back and then put the one you want to see on Back2. It shouldn't allow digging because the numbered layers don't usually have any function.

[west gyro]

Thank you so much, you’ve been a huge help — I really didn’t know what to do🥹🥹🌸🥹🥹

[vernal crest]

You're very welcome! I hope that fixes things for you but if it doesn't I'm sure there are more options that someone else will be able to suggest.

[calm nebula]

Smh these used to be checked in order, @Pathoschild. Was that always undocumented behavior?

[tiny zealot]

@dusk mulch the patch fix is out

[devout otter]

Can I get a pointer on how to do SMAPI's new feature of spritesheet referencing. I tried to set up a relative path to TileSheets/Craftables but I got this message: StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Exceptions.SContentLoadException: Mouse Friends in the Forest loaded map 'assets\Maps' with invalid tilesheet path 'TileSheets/Craftables.png'. The tilesheet couldn't be found relative to either the map file or the game's content folder.

[vernal crest]

It requires having ../ at the front, so ../TileSheets/Craftables

I had to look at Button's PR to figure it out: https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/pull/988

[tiny zealot]

it starts "in" Maps/, so the ../ (which means "up one directory") strips that off so you can go "into" other ones

(scare quotes are because the conflation of asset names and file paths is fraught with peril)

[devout otter]

Okay that works. Thank you!

[devout otter]

Can a tile property have more than one Action?

[hallow igloo]

how do I set a flag?

context: I want to test if my map patches work and they should be activated with a specific hasFlag

[devout otter]

You use the AddMail action, generally.

Through what do you want to set the flag?

[hallow igloo]

smapi preferably cause else I'll need to install another mdo first

[tiny zealot]

oh, if you're testing, run debug seenmail <your mail/flag id> in your SMAPI console to set it, then patch update to repatch whatever depends on it

[hallow igloo]

what does <your mail> mean?

oh wait

nvm

[deft gazelle]

ehi i'm trying to create a mod that allow me to plant and buy potato seed all year and to create seed maker at level 0 farming

[hallow igloo]

enjoy!

[deft gazelle]

how do i start?

[woeful lintel]

!cp

[ocean sail]

Content Patcher (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1915) is a mod which loads content packs to change the game's images and data without replacing XNB files. If you want to make mods using Content Patcher, start at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher.

To use this command, type !cp.

[hallow igloo]

check the wiki or content patcher and just read shit until you have an idea

[woeful lintel]

!startmodding is good too I guess

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[woeful lintel]

(you'll need the first point)

To give you some direction after you read some documentation: you'll need to edit the data of the potato crop and seed shop for the potato thing, and I think the seed maker thing is in the big craftable data (not sure about that)

[deft gazelle]

alr thanks

[brittle pasture]

the recipe (including unlock requirements) is in Data/CraftingRecipes, not Data/BigCraftables

[ocean wave]

where does one find this sprite? yes i have the game unpacked

[hallow prism]

some cursor for 1.6 or a similar file

[tiny zealot]

.q 6218

[patent lance]

#6218

It's not in Cursors
There's no way it's in Cursors
... it was in Cursors

• @tiny zealot (Jump)

Aug 2, 2024, 4:27 AM

[ocean wave]

its one photo

[woeful lintel]

does indoor/outdoor NPC appearance not work? I assumed the game resolved both appearances on day start and switched between them when the NPC (or player) goes indoors/outdoors

but I just tested it, my patches are correct, and the NPC did not change portrait upon exiting the house

[tiny zealot]

indoor/outdoor works, i use it

[woeful lintel]

so if you first meet an NPC inside and then outside, you'll see 2 different portraits, correct?

[finite ginkgo]

Assuming they specify portraits for each appearance yes