making-mods-general

[autumn tide]

omg tysm- lemme upload my shit

would you prerfer the !json thingy or just the files?

[opaque field]

uhhhmm let's go with files since it sounds like you've got a decent chonk :3

[autumn tide]

..okay prepare yourself cause i got a lot- is it alr if i DM you them?

[reef creek]

https://smapi.io/log/c3a124e488dd47c887d2f17a6c7000c6

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 5 C# mods and 2 content packs.

[reef creek]

there's no error that shows with the code, but when i go to view it in game, it won't show

[hallow prism]

hmm, we may need a patch summary then

!patchsummary

[ocean sail]

Can you do these steps to provide more info?

1. Load your save and view the content that should be patched.
2. Type patch summary directly into the SMAPI window and press enter.
3. Upload your SMAPI log to https://smapi.io/log (see instructions on that page).
4. Post the log link here.

To use this command, type !patchsummary.

[hallow prism]

but don't ping me because i'm leaving 🙂

[autumn tide]

good lumina go to bed already

[shrewd flint]

i know linus has a different line when you dig through trash compared to other people, is it possible to add another one of those? i'm replacing an npc

[autumn tide]

i think so! you'd need CFD though

[shrewd flint]

sounds good! thank you

[reef creek]

uh so nevermind, it sometimes works i just need to figure out why it isnt working for the flower dance

[shrewd flint]

i'm looking through the content and can't seem to find what i'm looking for, where is it?

[tiny zealot]

assuming CFD means Custom Fixed Dialogue, you don't need that for this (or, as far as i know, anything anymore)
every NPC's base dialogue asset (Characters/Dialogue/<Name>) supports a key called DumpsterDiveComment, which is what they will say if they catch you digging in the trash

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue (DumpsterDiveComment)

• https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Dumpster_diving to modify their emote/friendship

[shrewd flint]

i downloaded the wrong thing LOL

[brittle pasture]

but yes to reiterate CFD is kill

[hallow prism]

Hmm, there is something special about flower dance and spouse. Maybe bzchelors too

I dont remember details

(Dont tell claude i was here. Im a reasonable person. Sometimes)

[autumn tide]

I SEE YOU

[tiny zealot]

spring24 is built different and does not check for the spouse keys

it's anyone's guess as to why. it's a hardcoded exception iirc

[hard fern]

So weird

[hallow prism]

I think it may be due to the way the game generate the dance question

But in this case the issue may be something else since sebastian isnt a spouse key

[tiny zealot]

oh i misfollowed the replies and was looking at the wrong code block. my bad.
however, my point is still accurate

[hallow prism]

Yes i appreciate it

It helps to narrow things a bit

[autumn tide]

sleep

[hidden locust]

hello, can I make a craftable only work in a building like the cask?

[fervent horizon]

Big update just released for my Stardew Modding Schema vscode extension. I'll start a thread on this post and post the newest changes.

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=BSavage81.stardew-modding-schema

[brittle pasture]

you can add a "only this location" condition to the trigger

make sure to use the Target location

[hidden locust]

thank you Selph!!

[brittle pasture]

you can't make it only placeable in a certain location but I think if you make it clear in the item description it's good enough

[fervent horizon]

Nevermind, I can't make threads 😆

[autumn tide]

yayy

[brittle pasture]

gotta be orange

[autumn tide]

oh i can!

Stardew Modding Schema - Visual Studio M...

yayyy thread

[reef creek]

so i can't edit his dialogue pre asking him to dance?

[tiny zealot]

if you are targeting the key Sebastian_spouse or Sebastian_spouse_y2 (or any other year) at the flower dance festival (spring24), it will have no effect, since that festival ignores the keys with _spouse in them

but Sebastian, Sebastian_y2, etc. work fine

so for spring24 you would need to do conditional edits to the standard key if you want special dialogue for when the NPC is your spouse

[reef creek]

hmm okay I'll have to troubleshoot some more because for some reason the dialogue wont show even without the _spouse key

[fervent horizon]

ok, I added some information about the newest things in the schema. Big Picture, this adds item hovers, and completions based off the mod you have installed on your system

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1452126473342287923

[reef creek]

somehow it fixed itself without me even doing anything specific

[shrewd flint]

thank you!!!

[tiny zealot]

🎉 but i suspect maybe a patch reload/update issue then

[balmy valve]

Custom audio cue no work

https://smapi.io/log/6bfe9c23cef24033abc2ae588b1c9621

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 6 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[balmy valve]

It says "argument out of range"

[tiny zealot]

can you show your json? but truthfully this is worrisome

InvalidDataException: Could not determine container type!
   at NVorbis.VorbisReader..ctor(Stream stream, Boolean closeStreamOnDispose) in```

i suspect you have a weird or broken ogg that the game isn't able to process

[balmy valve]

ou no

ok one sec

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f1bbc494fe2f4cc9b85d40452cb53760

i think

i think it was a bracket

Now it's saying "could not determine container type

[balmy valve]

https://smapi.io/log/b8de17c2eb8c4ee58b40928d667d70b3

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 6 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[balmy valve]

Here's the new log

...thank you governor

[tiny zealot]

this is the same error as before. the audiochanges patch looks okay

does your ogg file play normally on your computer?

[balmy valve]

Yep

I double click it and it plays

[tiny zealot]

ok what about right-click -> properties (or equivalent)

[balmy valve]

Opens normally

[tiny zealot]

is there any chance this is not an ogg vorbis file and it just has the .ogg extension?

[balmy valve]

...What the hell is an ogg vorbis

[brittle pasture]

maybe the sample rate is wrong or etc

[balmy valve]

It's just an ogg

WHat is an ogg vorbis

[brittle pasture]

if possible maybe you can post the file?

[balmy valve]

bogos binted??

[balmy valve]

yep

normal ogg. no vorbis

[tiny zealot]

ogg is the container, vorbis is the audio format (if memory serves)

[balmy valve]

ogg is the bread, vorbis is the orientation that determines if it's a sandwich or a hotdog?

[tiny zealot]

note: "StreamedVorbis" in your json, and NVorbis.VorbisReader in the SMAPI error

[balmy valve]

should i delete streamed vorbis

[tiny zealot]

no

[balmy valve]

will that fix it

ok

Sobbing and crying rn

Ogg vorbis

[tiny zealot]

this appears to be an Opus audio file

[brittle pasture]

hmm so your file is "ogg Opus" and not "ogg Vorbis"

[tiny zealot]

so there's your problem, i'd bet

[brittle pasture]

the game only supports the latter IIRC

you can try to reencode it

if you're on Linux you can use ffmpeg, which does everything and then some

[tiny zealot]

they're on windows (see log)

[balmy valve]

is there an online converter

[brittle pasture]

try this

[balmy valve]

ok, here goes nothing

yoba help me...

YIPPEE!!!!

THANK YOUU

THANK YOU SO MUCH OMY

How did you do that? How did you change the opus to the vorbis

[tiny zealot]

selph is on linux and probably used ffmpeg, in accordance with his suggestion

[brittle pasture]

if you google around there's probably an online converter out there

I think Audacity also works

[hard fern]

Ffmpeg works on windows too, no?

Ive used it before

[brittle pasture]

probably havent used windows in a while lol

[tiny zealot]

ffmpeg is the xkcd comic about the load-bearing software dependency, so if it doesn't work on windows i'll be shocked

[hard fern]

I say this as if I can't just open ffmpeg and use it right now lol

It definitely works

[balmy valve]

me when singing: That's like four syncopated triplets in a row, why are they doing this to me?
me when composing: 6/4 time signature swing rhythm go brrrr

[stray cypress]

hi quick question, making my first mod do we still use .net 6.0 framework for visual studio?

[balmy valve]

any1 know how to add a temporary mannequin actor so my character can slash it

[balmy valve]

I'm not sure what exactly that means- I use JSON files for my content patcher mod and if .net is an addon, i did not install it

[stray cypress]

I'm trying to program a mod in c#, I'm using Microsoft's Visual Studio so I need Class library Framework

[stray cypress]

Appreciate the feedback though ‼️

[vernal crest]

Yes you need to target 6

[stray cypress]

Got it, thank you! I installed the latest version of visual studio but it doesn't even include .net 6.0 as a framework

guess i gotta go back to vs 2022

[brave fable]

ffmpeg absolutely works on windows, i use it all the time. my beloved. my father and son and true love

[drowsy stirrup]

Not exactly a mod, but sound designers for mods might know, idk.. where was the water + bubble ambient sounds played in the backing track of the submarine music gotten from? Anyone know? I really like how crisp and clean it sounds compared to anything I've found.

[brave fable]

that feels like something better asked to CA on his socials hahah

[drowsy stirrup]

I didn't even know he'd answer tbh.

I figured someone else might know too.

[tender bloom]

I don't know that he's ever said, you could try googling

[drowsy stirrup]

hmm did, r i p .

[brave fable]

he's mentioned some of the foley before on talk show/podcasts like the sound test, but i don't remember anything specific, less so the submarine music

[heavy pewter]

Are the melee weapon swing effects customizable too? If so, which folder does it contained? TileSheets or LooseSprites?

[brittle pasture]

they're just the weapon sprite being rotated

and the animation itself is on the farmer

[heavy pewter]

Thanks

[heavy pewter]

My bad, i mean the slash effects not the animation, anyways i found it in LooseSprites/Cursors. I think thats it.

So lets say i want to make a fire sword that has fire slash effect, do i EditImage or Load instead?

I think if i do EditImage here, all swords will have a fire effects too?

[brittle pasture]

yes it will apply to every weapon

whatever you want to do you'd need C#

[cinder orchid]

👋

[proud wyvern]

Choose whatever, then manually edit the .csproj file to make it 6.0

[toxic hornet]

does anyone know how big the spouse area is supposed to be? im getting differing dimensions when i look online >.<

[brittle pasture]

well if online includes "google ai" then it doesn't know anything
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data (SpousePatio, 4x4)

[toxic hornet]

it includes that and some other mods with spouse areas but they were all different tile sizes

[brittle pasture]

well sounds like it's guessing to me
the wiki, and the unpacked game files, is your best friend

s/guessing/pulling shit out of its ass

[stray cypress]

Appreciate it 💯

[latent cape]

Just wanna ask, is it possible to make a separate npc to move in with us after we married another certain npc that's related with said separate npc?

[brittle pasture]

not possible currently, unless you make them secretly a roaming farm animal with MEEP

chu's working on a mod for that, though I'm not sure how far it goes

[latent cape]

Ohh alright, thank you

[brittle pasture]

or use a poly mod (roommates are coded as platonic "spouses")

[cedar quail]

hello everyone, may i ask if this channel is also for questions about mods

[brittle pasture]

but presumably that's not very desirable

[brittle pasture]

usually ppl go to #modded-stardew

[cedar quail]

thanks ❤️

[brittle pasture]

unless you're looking to make personal edits

[cedar quail]

hmmm do you know, where can i fix on my folders the ''serializer''...

can i show it to you, if tats alr

[brittle pasture]

probably still the wrong place 😉
but if you're talking about the spacecore serializer warning in the console just ignore it

[cedar quail]

yeh that one-

phew thanks

[lucid mulch]

spacecore touches the serializer and gets yelled at by smapi so no one else has to

[hasty cedar]

does any1 know how to set up a simple macro?

[gentle rose]

like an smapi debug command macro?

[opaque field]

In my mod for Shane, when he sends the Strange Bun recipe in the mail at 3 hearts the attachment says "
New cooking recipe:
'Error Item:default'". For the life of me I cannot figure out why.

[vernal crest]

Json please :)

[opaque field]

Which json would you like? The mail.json? It’s not something I added it’s his vanilla mail 😭😭

[vernal crest]

If you don't touch the mail or the strange bun item/recipe, have you made sure you're testing with NO other content mods in case it's not actually your mod that's the problem?

[opaque field]

Y'know, I actually hadn't thought about that since several people had commented on the bug report saying they were experiencing the same issue.

Also, do you know anything about making boots?

[vernal crest]

Not specifically but it looks straightforward

[opaque field]

It's WAG doing the thing with the mail Shane sends the marshmallow mixer at 2 Hearts

For boots I'm just having a helluva time with the bootcolor. I can get the object to exist, but the boots are multicolored and I'm struggling to figure out how to make sure that when the boots equip they match what the boots look like on the farmer.

[vernal crest]

Always good to confirm that a bug report is for your own mod xD

[opaque field]

I've been squinting at this for a hot minute -- might be time for a break and come back to it later. Honestly just so relieved to know that it's not me breaking Shane's mail lmfao

[vernal crest]

If you share your boots json and images I will have a look

[opaque field]

                 "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "{{ModId}}/Boots, {{ModId}}/BootsColor",
            "FromFile": "Assets/items/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
            },
             {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Boots",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_SturdyBoots": "Sturdy Boots/Sturdy pair of boots./10000/4/4/8/Sturdy Boots/{{ModId}}\\BootsColor/0/{{ModId}}\\Boots"
            }
        } ```

[hard fern]

😭 im so sorry i thought that was like. a bug

[vernal crest]

Why is your boots colour index 8 when there's only 4 pixels on your BootsColor.png file?

[opaque field]

Because I copied it from the example on the wiki and only just now realized that I didn't change it

[vernal crest]

I'm also not sure if you're supposed to have 4 pixels in a row like vanilla does or if it works with just one pixel

[opaque field]

I'm so tired I've been making myself nuts over this for wayyyy too long haha I'll fiddle with the pixel placement after a Catnap and maybe some coffee.

[vernal crest]

(Also a reminder to i18n your description and non-English display name)

[gentle rose]

opinion question to c# authors: do you guys i18n console output/custom errors

[verbal narwhal]

are there any gsq or other ways to access with a smapi mod whether your spouse is jealous on this day, whether the spouse has been gifted (and if they liked it)/talked to today or if they have their birthday or wedding anniversary today?

[gentle rose]

by smapi mod you mean c# mod, right?

[verbal narwhal]

yes!

[gentle rose]

anything is possible in c#, you just may have to dig into the decompile to check how jealousy is handled

[verbal narwhal]

mhm i dont understand how to access the "is this condition true for NPC today"

but I will look more into it

[vernal crest]

Look at the vanilla GSQ code maybe so you can see how it's done

[verbal narwhal]

Ty, will do that!!!

[royal stump]

I haven't & don't think I've seen anyone do so, since a) 99% of the logs would still be english, and b) english-fluent players rarely read or understand them anyway
though I did recently make an i18n-compatible helper class for commands

[lucid iron]

I don't bc it's for me to read

When void had some os exceptions in german it was actually harder to find wtf was up

[calm nebula]

Tbh if they were for me to read my error messages would be like

[royal stump]

oh right, if a translation isn't bundled with your mod it'd be trickier to ID errors (short of adding error codes)

[calm nebula]

"Dup keys 3 %s"

Or "why hfuwnfhuwhfueh"

[lucid iron]

I also trust that ppl can put things through translator if they really want to know

But I'm already annoyed with ppl who translate mod names by changing manifest and make it hard to find shit

i18n mod name when...

[gentle rose]

yeah, my instinct was also no but I wanted to make sure

[elder hornet]

Hi, I have a question about modding in events. I've done it a ton of itme sbut never at a custom map. The custom map is loaded into the game but the event does not trigger. I have a feeling as the command is edit data, but there will be no data to edit for a custom location. Do I need to add it to the event data first somehow?

[hallow prism]

you need to load a blank file then edit it

the file needs to exist before being edited

there is nothing making it exist by default just by creating a location

[elder hornet]

That is what I am asking. How do I add it to the event data?

[hallow prism]

you need to load a blank file targetting the location

same target but a load

then edit it like you do

[elder hornet]

Check, I think I worked it out, thnx!

I thought I did but it does not seem to work yet

[royal stump]

the Load target needs to be the same as the EditData target

[elder hornet]

Ah okay, my bad, thnx!

[royal stump]

one action loads a blank asset so that it exists, then the edit actually fills it

[elder hornet]

Yes I figured out as much but wasn't aware I already had to add the full path in the load action, thnx!

[royal stump]

(I just popped in and hadn't noticed Lumina mentioned that too, but yeah, np)

[elder hornet]

It says the json is invalid now, even though its blank

[royal stump]

it may need to contain {} to be valid? I've never needed to do it myself

[elder hornet]

I got no errors now but nothing happens either haha

[royal stump]

the target shouldn't say ".json", so it's probably not checking the events right now

[elder hornet]

Ah check when I didnt add the json I got the invalid error

I will try the {}

[royal stump]

just "Target": "Data/Events/Custom_VerstaveHouse" assuming that's your map name

[elder hornet]

Yes I edited it, both targets and added {} in the blank file

[Content Patcher] Can't apply patch Verstave > Load Data/Events/Custom_VerstaveHouse to Data/Events/Custom_VerstaveHouse:
StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Exceptions.SContentLoadException: Failed loading asset 'Maps/Custom_VerstaveHouse.json' from SMAPI\erevendi.verstave: the JSON file is invalid.

Sad trombone haha

Oh it works now

I changed nothing lmao

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

Thank you for your help!

[violet valley]

Is it possible to add ginger island parrot walnut repair things with content patcher? or do I need to use C#?

[inland rain]

DMTE now lets you add and remove quests
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/33900

[lucid iron]

Kind of hardcoded. If you want the speech bubble stuff then yeah must C# that. If you want people to just buy stuff with golden walnut then you can just do normal shop stuff

[violet valley]

Oh ok. Thanks

[elder hornet]

Before I spend time making the sprites; I know how to add NPCs to festivals but is it possible to give them a custom sprite instead of their regular ones?

[balmy valve]

If I want to add a temporary object in a heart event, will it still work if said object id is a mannequin

[merry river]

i hate marriage schedules why are they the way they are

[autumn tide]

spacecore can disable marrige schedules!

and you can use CSK to override it

[merry river]

i know, but somehow, it's not applying!

[merry river]

CSK?

ohh custom schedule keys

[autumn tide]

custom scheudle keys

ypu!

omg

i cannot type-

[merry river]

csk was one of button's frameworks, right? let me check

[autumn tide]

mhm!

[opaque field]

Looking at that rn actually lmfao

[merry river]

oh my god this might actually be the solution to my problem. i owe you and button my life

[hallow prism]

no, but you can use temporary animated sprites instead

[elder hornet]

I want to add them to the Luau but in swimwear which would be sprite 17 instead of the default

[lucid iron]

Hm there's a few ways I think

In the additional character setup bit u should be able to animate the actor much like in normal event

You can also make the swimsuit a separate appearance (which you might want to do regardless for island resort)

[odd ginkgo]

I just did this, it's very useful for switching outfits during events

[elder hornet]

Do you know where I can find how to do this? 🙂

[odd ginkgo]

I can't remember besides the wiki tutorials, but here's an example of how it looks in her NPCData

[elder hornet]

Ah okay, thank you! That is helpful, gonna search the wiki as well

[odd ginkgo]

and then in events you can write: "changeSprite {{NPCName}} Beach/changePortrait {{NPCname}} Beach" and they'll change outfits

[elder hornet]

Ah thanks, so that would also work for the luau? Would I put it in the setup additional character bit?

[lucid iron]

Luau is a festival tho

[odd ginkgo]

ohh yeah not an event

[lucid iron]

You can put IS_EVENT gsq instead

Luau should be like festival_summer14 or something idrm the day

[odd ginkgo]

summer 11?

wait lmao i can't remember now

[elder hornet]

summer 11 yes haha

[lucid iron]

Just check something like sca or dsv tbh

One of those all the outfits mods

[odd ginkgo]

speaking of schedules, does anyone see why this input is giving me errors? smapi says the input string if the wrong format

"Tue": "610 Koda_Sub 26 9 inke_bob/740 Koda_Sub 26 9 inke_wake/800 Koda_Sub 25 7 0/910 Koda_Cove 25 26 3/1010 Koda_Cove 15 18 2/1040 Koda_Cove 30 18 2/1210 Beach 13 31 3/1310 Beach 27 28 2/1410 Beach 57 19 inke_stand/1510 Beach 9 17 inke_stand/1710 Koda Cove 25 26 3/1810 Koda_Sub 26 7 2/1910 Koda_Sub 26 7 inke_work/2010 Koda_Sub 26 9 inke_bob/2110 Koda_Sub 26 9 inke_sleep",

[ornate trellis]

moments like these i wonder if i am doing it wrong or just happen to know a diff way of doing things because i just do "Condition": "EVENT_ID festival_summer11",

[hallow prism]

the first two seems to miss facing direction?

i'm not sure if having an anim is replacing the direction or comes after

[odd ginkgo]

I'll give it a try!

[hallow prism]

but every time you added an anim you didn't put a direction

compare with vanilla!

[odd ginkgo]

ahh, the golden rule, I've been trying to reference it a lot more

okay, here goes!

[lucid iron]

EVENT_ID is an alias for IS_EVENT so u r doing it right

[ornate trellis]

sweet

[balmy valve]

So. question.

I have two marryable characters in my mod, they're brother and sister. How do I set up an event to trigger if you've seen both of their cutscenes and you're dating both of them at the same time ?

[karmic gust]

There's a precondition for when the player is dating an NPC

And a precondition for having seen an event. So you'd just have it set up to have seen both events and dating both

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data check under Event Preconditions

[autumn tide]

fallspice..?

[slow basin]

when making a map do i have to open a map with an animated fountain to make animated water or is it just grabbing the tilesheet i forgot and wanted to check before i devoted too much time to a map just to need to redo it

[autumn tide]

Uh, could you clarify pls?

[slow basin]

ok so if i wanted an animated fountain like we have in town

do i need to open the town map.tmx file and use that as a base to make my map

or do i just need to open the tilesheet in the map editor

[ornate trellis]

are u using the vanilla fountain or your own asset?

[autumn tide]

..not entirely sure how to phrase what i wanna say so here's what the wiki has: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Tile_animation

[slow basin]

vanilla fountain

[ornate trellis]

preferringly what you'd do is open an existing map then so you have the whole tilesheet with its animations and tiledata already in there, jsut delete the map itself and start away

[slow basin]

alright thank you!

[ornate trellis]

alrenatively if you already used the tilesheet from a diff source you could export the tsx from town and then swap that with the tilesheet you already got that has no tile data, i think. or be caveman like me when i didnt know any of this, look at how milliseconds the animation is in town map and redo the animation by hand xD

[uncut viper]

you can also just set up the animation yourself from scratch, though thats usually more annoying than the other alternatives

oh i misread void's last sentence and didnt realize thats what they meant oops

[autumn tide]

@outer glacier

[ornate trellis]

damn, they even had the expensive arcane pfp frame

[autumn tide]

prolly hacked or something

[ornate trellis]

ye

[autumn tide]

i gotta watch arcane eventually..

[ornate trellis]

its nice, do like the artstyle

[gentle rose]

wow these are new photos from new camera angles, revolutionary

[slow basin]

gosh the town map is so big

im gonna see if theres a way to either make the map size smaller or find a way to fill the space

.>

found the resize option

[fervent horizon]

I posted an update to my vscode extension last night, but wanted to post again now for people who may have missed it. This update adds hover and completion support to items. it also adds hover support for i18n strings. Feel free to let me know if there are any issues in the thread. Also, if you can think of anything you would like to see added, or a framework that needs schema support, let me know.

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1452126473342287923

[slow basin]

wip map

gonna add in more details now that i ahve the base layout

this is just to place all the buildings where i want

now the real fun begins

[final arch]

trailer park

[thorn sorrel]

Would anyone happen to know what code I need to put into a crop mod that would allow harvesting 2 different items at the same time?

[brittle pasture]

like wheat/sunflower?
you need spacecore or machine terrain framework i recommend the latter for biased reasons

https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/blob/master/TextileExpansion/[CP]TextileExpansion/Data/crops.json#L96 example for mtf

[hallow prism]

(while i like spacecore it has some display issues that are annoying to deal with because players report them to me)

[thorn sorrel]

Thank you! I'll look at the documentation

[tender bloom]

spacecore https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/tree/develop/framework/SpaceCore/docs for completeness

ctrl-F crop there

[ashen thunder]

https://smapi.io/log/ceb4ec7072124529b4a97c76ddd917b1 does anyone know how to fix the error with darcys coffee shop here? multiple people report the same error but im not getting it in my log

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 80 C# mods and 83 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[brittle pasture]

hmm can you post your portrait loading code

[ashen thunder]

        "Action": "EditData",
        "When": { "Darcy": "Human" },
        "Target": "Data/Characters",
        "TargetField": [ "{{ModId}}_Darcy", "Appearance" ],
        "Entries": {
            "{{ModId}}_Darcy_Winter": {
                "Id": "{{ModId}}_Darcy_Winter",
                "Season": "winter",
                "Portrait": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy_Winter",
                "Sprite": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy_Sprites_Winter"
            },
            "{{ModId}}_Darcy_Fall": {
                "Id": "{{ModId}}_Darcy_Fall",
                "Season": "fall",
                "Portrait": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy_Winter",
                "Sprite": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy_Sprites_Winter"
            },
            "{{ModId}}_Darcy": {
                "Id": "{{ModId}}_Darcy",
                "Portrait": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy",
                "Season": "spring",
                "Sprite": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy_Sprites"
            },
            "{{ModId}}_Darcy": {
                "Id": "{{ModId}}_Darcy",
                "Portrait": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy",
                "Season": "summer",
                "Sprite": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Darcy_Sprites"
            },
        }
    },```

[brittle pasture]

pls use smapi.io/json and also post the full code for context

[ashen thunder]

https://smapi.io/json/none/93921ea5c4d94fae9cf643ec2462f3b0

[fervent horizon]

Your spring and summer have the same id

[brittle pasture]

so the issue is that your Appearances section has two entries with the same key, causing it to be invalid

and the game falls back to Portraits/{{ModId}}_Darcy if there is no valid Appearances/the portrait texture field is not set

which you didn't load

[ashen thunder]

ah ok thanks!

[brittle pasture]

you should load it even if you don't expect it to be used

there might be cases where the base portrait is pulled, if not in the vanilla game then in other mods

[ashen thunder]

ok thanks ill make sure to do that!

[odd ginkgo]

okay, so if I want one version of an event to play if an NPC and player are dating, and one to play if they're not dating, the precondition would be Dating NPC, and !Dating NPC? that simple?

oop nope it did not like that

[brittle pasture]

that should be it but post your code if it's not working

[lucid iron]

I think u can use the gsq right

[brittle pasture]

yeah there is the gsq but we do have a precond for it

[lucid iron]

Can also just use cp tokens to do conditional edit if you only need to change a few things

Especially if it's just few lines of dialogue cus u can just use datingness to point to a different i18n key

[odd ginkgo]

yeah it's just to adjust whether the NPC acknowledges you're dating for one sentence of a small event

might be easier that way

[lucid iron]

Yeah I'd do the i18n then, it'll be less hassle cus you end up with same event id that way

[odd ginkgo]

ya'll the best

[calm nebula]

Is there a text token thing you can do?

[lucid iron]

Not in events (yet)

[calm nebula]

You can use tokenized text in events

[uncut viper]

wdym text token

like LocalizedText? yeah you can do that

you can put entire commands inside a LocalizedText since the entire event string is parsed for tokenizable strings before commands are parsed/evaluated

i.e. before it splits by splashes

[lucid iron]

Oh rly i thought the change to speak accepting translation keys was only next version

[uncut viper]

speak doesnt matter

its the entire event script that gets parsed

all at once

and accepting translation keys is a different thing to accepting tokenizable strings

[lucid iron]

Yeah i understand what u mean for current version and was thinking of something else

Mail accept tokenizeable strings when

[calm nebula]

When u do it chue

[lucid iron]

NoU

[uncut viper]

probably never

uynless vanilla plans on using it

otherwise why go thru the effort of reworking it to handle the mail commands

the [letterbg] and such which use the same [] syntax

[lucid iron]

Tbh ill settle for mail being split into unlocalized mail with translation keys

[uncut viper]

thats the same thing

[lucid iron]

Translation key would just be the thing inside tho

[uncut viper]

or rather like the same problem

what would that change from how you handle mail now

[lucid iron]

No [ ]

It would make handling edits to mail body easier and I'll feel happy about the separation of logic and content

In other words basically nothing

[odd ginkgo]

the thing about this event, is that in the previous version of FIASA, it's when the player would hike around with Koda while she sang Talking Heads "This Must Be The Place" lyrics... this time it's going to be a much shorter bus stop scene, but I'm still tempted... to have her quote Talking Heads lyrics... "Once in a Lifetime" for example. How niche is that? Too niche?

"there's water at the bottom of the ocean!" "where does that highway go to!" "That's not my beautiful wife!"

lmao

[opaque field]

I love a good Talking Heads reference so I say go for it.

[autumn tide]

okay i wanna make a command about critiquing ppl's work, uhh is this good? #making-mods-art message

[brittle pasture]

this seems like something you should run over with the junimos

[lucid iron]

This kind of thing seems highly subjective too

[autumn tide]

true..

[urban patrol]

imo it’s up to the individual to specify what feedback they want, as the default is none

[autumn tide]

i'll ask bouncer then

[cinder orchid]

👋

[gentle rose]

do you need help or something?

[lucid iron]

[gentle rose]

yeah, three days now

[gray bear]

[fossil osprey]

Tbh that's borderline spam in my book, so if you don't have something to say don't just send an emoji
And if you're looking for a conversation, you'd better go into #town-square rather than stay here

[gentle rose]

-# they won’t respond tbh, they never do, people have ping replied them a bunch of times already

[lucid iron]

Anyways mod making amrite

[fossil osprey]

I just hope they see, even if they don't answer

[gentle rose]

yup

whatcha working on rn chu

[lucid iron]

UI hell again

[rain matrix]

Every day I work on this animal behavior mod I understand much more deeply why nobody does detailed animal behavior mods. I hate this so much 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[gray bear]

how do animal event behave

[lucid iron]

You must defeat the path finder

[rain matrix]

It is a valiant crusade indeed

[lucid iron]

I also want to defeat the path finder but for NPCs

[gentle rose]

using the library mod whose name I can’t remember or manual?

[lucid iron]

Yeah this one is stardewui

[rain matrix]

I wish it was even a shred of consistent on what values it seems to use or cling to, or even just when it decides to hardcode random things

[lucid iron]

Stardewui makes some things easier and some things harder

[rain matrix]

On the plus side, Bessie needs an exorcism while I work on collission nonsense

[lucid iron]

But it is very nice for making forms quickly

[gray bear]

?? SHE'S IN THE WALLS

[lucid iron]

I don't think I'm gonna benefit from the controller integration tho

[rain matrix]

She came out for hay and then floated along the trough in protest. I honestly kind of want to preserve that logic sometimes for the hilarity

[gray bear]

cow really wants to get away from you

[brittle pasture]

why not just use pathfindcontroller tbh

or if you are already then ignore me

[rain matrix]

I've dabbled and the mod is such that I could possibly, but NPC and animal logic don't seem to play nicely at all

[gentle rose]

if you guys don’t have volume on when watching this you’re missing out

[gray bear]

great audio

cow became an eldrich being to escape you

[gentle rose]

also that “really?” is me for 90% of modding

[rain matrix]

Look I tried to integrate gentle handler pressure and it got away from me 😂

[gray bear]

imagine ur outside a barn and you hear this

[rain matrix]

I'm honestly shocked it doesn't often interfere with milking attempts.

[brittle pasture]

wdym it's just a pathfinder right
you do need a massive amount of statekeeping to keep track of what the animal was doing previous tick and what it will do next tick but it seems a lot headache prone than patching everywhere the vanilla animal does it random wandering stuff and looks a lot more natural too

[rain matrix]

Giving me war flashbacks to the hours of WTF I do with these movement overrides 😂

[lucid iron]

I guess u can always be evil and restore the pathfinder at every tick

Your custom one i mean

[brittle pasture]

this is what i do and nobody complained yet

[gray bear]

the chicken craves violence

[lucid iron]

Exhibit one, evil

[rain matrix]

Cuccoo mode is honestly one of the planned features

[brittle pasture]

cuz im the only one who does it but still

[gray bear]

oh wait didn't one of u make a mod where void chickens attacked

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28906

[brittle pasture]

yeah i wonder who

[gray bear]

caught

[gentle rose]

some weirdo called zombifier. probably a fan of specifically the mobile version of pvz

(/lh)

[brittle pasture]

slander

[gray bear]

,,,why that name actually

i wonder

[rain matrix]

THE TERROR THAT FLAPS IN THE NIGHT

[gray bear]

Selph knows it well

[brittle pasture]

it was my plants vs zombies era

[gray bear]

oh!

[untold oriole]

Hi! Is there a fixed sleeping position for any NPC's sprite?

[brittle pasture]

now who's ready for a lecture on why pvz replanted is a stain on the franchise

[gray bear]

me 👆

i love video game lecture

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Sleep_animation

[lucid iron]

The sleep is an animation yeah, I don't remember if it's hardcoded to a particular frame though

[untold oriole]

Oh, thank you

[gray bear]

oh u can set it

that is what the 50/50/50 thing means right

[stray hemlock]

Can the franchise even be stained? As far as I know, the first one is a clean spot in a sea of dirt hides

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah pvz1 pc is the only good one

[gray bear]

it all went downhill

[brittle pasture]

though i heard the original console version is also pretty good

anyway we should go to #programmers-off-topic , and I can forward my rant some time ago there

[gray bear]

[gentle rose]

I won’t lie to you, the only reason I know the mobile version isn’t the original is because of one of the times selph mentioned it

[gray bear]

selph is ur pvz insider

[rain matrix]

Well, well, well, if it isn't the consequences of fighting with collision logic once again

it's the same cow too

[uncut viper]

i don't see a cow, therefore I don't see a problem, which means it must all be fine

[lucid iron]

in one of my mods i built a list of pathable points (i.e. positions one can reach from the warp in)

it might be easier to do that than to dynamically calculate collision

downside is just update rate ofc

i didnt bother accounting for furniture getting moved since the main goal is just keeping kids in bounds

[rain matrix]

Yeah it's one thing I've been back and forth on for a bit. So many of the NPC wiki pages are robust and the farm animal pages (aside from purchase data) are just...blank

[lucid iron]

oh what do u mean

[gentle rose]

do you have a decompile, mare?

(it’s easier to check that than the wiki, the wiki isn’t really complete for c# stuff)

[rain matrix]

As far as what pathfinding logic they use. I reference the farmanimal logic in the public 1.6 decompile a lot, though there's way more random hardcodes than there seems to be in NPC pathfinding

[uncut viper]

there is no actually allowed public decompile

[gentle rose]

I don’t recommend using the public github decompiles, the ones I’ve seen always miss things and they’re all illegal

[uncut viper]

the decompile you're looking at is just someone elses techically-illegally uploaded repo lol

[rain matrix]

the definitely legit decompile

that I didn't find

[uncut viper]

one does not exist to non-mod authors

you can decompile it yourself easily

[gentle rose]

unless it was uploaded to a pathoschild repo, it is not in fact legit

[lucid iron]

ilspy or dnspy yea

[uncut viper]

the wiki pages arent really meant to explain the decompile in great detail anyway

[lucid iron]

no obsfucation so it's simple

[uncut viper]

unless in cases where it really matters for something

like gift tastes

[rain matrix]

and this is way more just looking at logic that's not frequently modded

[gentle rose]

I’m confused about why that would matter for the decompile

[rain matrix]

More that there are more tutorials that exist for NPCs that are more frequently modded

Not that it would matter for the decompile

[gentle rose]

there aren’t really any good c# modding tutorials that I’m aware of other than the very very basics of how to do a hello world mod

[lucid iron]

Tbh I don't think NPCs are more frequently modded from C#

It just has more knobs by default

[rain matrix]

Whoops, that was just my assumption

Yup

[lucid iron]

With farm animal you gotta make a lot of stuff yourself bc they don't have concept of schedule

[rain matrix]

No they do not

[cinder orchid]

👋

[autumn tide]

..why

[urban patrol]

they're a spammer just ignore

[autumn tide]

yeah prolly best but like.. WHY

[stray hemlock]

Can we ban them?

[urban patrol]

that would be up to the junimos

[gray bear]

spammer seems like a stretch

[autumn tide]

eh...

[stray hemlock]

They did that for the past three days every 12 hours.

[gray bear]

again, stretch

[autumn tide]

wait is it at a specific time? may be a bot

[gray bear]

this, doesn't break the rules really

[autumn tide]

huh

[stray hemlock]

Awwww.

[autumn tide]

well, it might be annoying but it's not malicious ig, so makes sense

[uncut viper]

to me it just seems like a spam account trying to fudge their server rep in some way, but c'est la vie

[autumn tide]

yeahhh it takes a WHILE to level up and ppl here notice the spam

[stray hemlock]

But why would anyone want to level up? I mean, I do so I can use hyperlinks, but...

I'll think about that tomorrow. Goodnight.

[autumn tide]

bragging rights

gn!!

[urban patrol]

voice chat, hyperlinks, sending images in other channels

embeds

[autumn tide]

...bragging rights..

[thorn sorrel]

I don't suppose there's a way to get these to appear lower on the tree?

[autumn tide]

damnnn that looks cool!

[brittle pasture]

no, though there's a wip framework for some fruit tree stuff

[lucid iron]

You can make it a wild tree

[autumn tide]

or a bush!

[thorn sorrel]

Darn, but oh well. Thank you for everyone's suggestions!

About to upload the finished file and this was the last thing on the list

[autumn tide]

aaa awesome! it looks amazing!

we can feature it on here if you send the link

[balmy valve]

nani the hell is this

where do i find the seasonal tilesheet for THIS monstrositt

i have the seasonal tilesheets for "outdoors" abd "town" which is where this tree is

[ornate trellis]

You're hot, then you're cold...🎶

love the dual bush

[balmy valve]

Also, another map issue: I gave tile properties to a custom tilesheet so the game SHOULD treat them as grass or dirt tiles...but it doesnt

[balmy valve]

what alt girls do to their hair when something goes even slightly wrong

[ornate trellis]

[autumn tide]

HAH

[balmy valve]

The tile property issue was fixed

but the split dye bush remains

if i set a custom map's location context to "island," will that affect anything other than the weather?

[autumn tide]

ngl i have split rainbow and purple hair rn so

[lucid iron]

This is almost certainly a seasonal tilesheet problem

You need to make sure ur sheets came from content

[balmy valve]

They did

Copied them over and everything

[balmy valve]

slay

[balmy valve]

They did, and I have the seasonal tilesheets in the sheets folder as well so idk what is going on

[lucid iron]

Well u can lookup anything the tile to see what sheet they r from

[balmy valve]

Town

Both the tree and the bush are from Town, and I have the seasonal town versions too

[lucid iron]

No like

If u do lookup anything in game

You can check if they r from the sheets expected

[balmy valve]

Wdym?

[hard fern]

Use lookup anything on the tree

[balmy valve]

is that a mod??

[lucid iron]

Yeah

[balmy valve]

ok ;c

downloading it now ;c

launching...

It's not working on the tree

It doesn't seem to work on plain tiles

[lucid iron]

Did u turn on tile lookup

[balmy valve]

It's not doing anything because it's just a tile/painted on, not a bush or shakeable tree

[pine elbow]

Hi everyone, I wanted to know something: is there a way to disable an event in my content.json file?

[balmy valve]

THATS AN OPTION?

[lucid iron]

What is the context here?

[balmy valve]

i need "generic mod config menu" AAAAA

pain, so much pain

[lucid iron]

Tbh im surprised u r mod testing without these things

[pine elbow]

So, I'm making a mod that replaces some NPCs with others, and I'm creating heart events, and I wanted to disable it so I could add another one.

[lucid iron]

Data layer is another useful one

[lucid iron]

1. Did people already warn you about replacements vs new add?
2. You can edit over vanilla events if you target the right asset + event id yep

[balmy valve]

...friggin z_springtown....

[pine elbow]

1- Well, nope. Actually, the mod is just for me and my friend, I'm not going to do anything else anyway, if that's your concern.

2- Oh, sure.

[lucid iron]

Yeah the warning is just compat problems

[balmy valve]

Ok. It looks like the map is, for some reason, pulling from a tileset called "z_springtown" that i don't even have loaded??

[lucid iron]

That's probably the tilesheet in the same folder

Or someone else loaded it

[pine elbow]

Oh yes. But nobody warned me, sorry.

[balmy valve]

If I. Delete this tilesheet. Will my map break?

[lucid iron]

yea probably

but it was incorrect to begin with so

gotta fix no matter what

[balmy valve]

What if I replace the tilesheet in Tiled

[lucid iron]

i dont think tiled has any easy migrate id kinda thing

best to delete and repaint the bits u lost

[balmy valve]

I'm just gonna

Back my project up

Because this map is the town map. I can't exactly repaint that

[lucid iron]

I hope u aren't loading over Town.tmx

[balmy valve]

YES

IT WORKED

[balmy valve]

i am not! i am doing an edit map thing

IT WORKED

THANK YOBA

AND CHU!E

Now to load up Stardew and see if the bush got over its breakup yet

YIPPEE

THANK YOU

[golden basin]

@lucid iron hye chu i was wondering something, how hard would it be to make a machine that places something onto like a 'plate' automatically

im making a machine thats works like a hopper and its gunna grind up bug meat and spit it out on plates for my raptors to eat

i guess it works like a auto feeder but for meat

[lucid iron]

A plate like a trough?

I think automate does work with silos so maybe that's sufficient

But u should probably be scope creeping selph here

[brittle pasture]

this seems something extremely specific that's only mildly different than the vanilla silo/troughs/autofeeding mechanic

[lucid iron]

But selph what if there's like

Chicken feed mill

That's both a mill and a silo

Does vanilla let u do that

[brittle pasture]

you can have two actions on different tiles

though nothing to automatically dump the output into the silo yet yes

[lucid iron]

Yeah hm

Idk clown i think automate is best option here

[brittle pasture]

(automate doesnt work with custom feed yet)

[lucid iron]

Maybe u can make the building with a little inset for the machine at least

[brittle pasture]

the interior could have a meat grinder and a meat hopper idk there's like 10 ways to implement this, none of which i'm 100% happy with

[thorn sorrel]

Ok, finally stopped nitpicking on it and posted it. Thank you again everyone who helped and gave suggestions! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/40229

[autumn tide]

Congrats!!!

[thorn sorrel]

Someday you won't need a step ladder to get to the presents on the Christmas tree, but that's a problem for another day

[soft lance]

sighhh

i go to nexus, i find a cool willy seasonal shop mod

its a russian translation, oki thats cool

ai thumbnails, and ai generated translation

i make a comment about it being ai, and mildly upset if they can change it

he reports me, gets me an "informal" warning (its nothing really)

he blocks me from viewing his mod

and deletes my comment

very sketchy...sad that these people are still on Nexus

[brittle pasture]

nexus' made its stance, all you can do is block and move on

[soft lance]

yup, just sucks

[soft lance]

ADORABLEEE

[autumn tide]

Oh ffs-

Spam istg..

[brittle pasture]

the downside of allowing images so beginners can ask for help

[golden basin]

Reason I wanted to put it in my mod id cause auto ste wasn't working

[brittle pasture]

yeah it wasn't working because automate doesn't support it yet, and the best route is probably for me to make a PR to automate

[lucid mulch]

or an adapter mod to teach automate what you want

[brittle pasture]

actually does automate even support troughs

I know it doesn't support silos/hoppers with EAC modded feed

but yeah mayhaps I can add something, would be somewhat low on my prio list and also it's the holidays

[real agate]

Billboard Beautifier, went from a Proof of Concept to a completely rewritten, dynamically rendered calendar. Goes from bland to an explosion of colors and seasonal flair. Multiple beautiful combinations make it a joy to check for birthdays and events. More flair coming soon. Works for any language installed (v 1.0 was English only). Also adds an icon to Winter 14 as Valentine's Day if you have the Be My Valentine MOD installed. This is a lightweight, must have MOD! Enjoy!

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/39979

[toxic hornet]

Very cute!!!

[inland crater]

Is it easy for a mod to enable or disable user game settings?

I want to make a mod that enables and disables vsync during certains activities

[tiny zealot]

(in C#) yes, pretty much all the stuff in the game options menu is public on Options.cs. but i gently recommend against doing this

[inland crater]

the game screen tears so bad

but I don't vsync on when fishing

[real agate]

Thank you. That is just an example., It randomly selects flair based on season, so who knows what you will get! There are some really nice combos. Give it a try. Merry Christmas.

[tiny zealot]

oh, it's just for you? go nuts then

[inland crater]

Oh, I see.

Why do you not reccomend it though?

[tiny zealot]

well, in general i consider it rude to override a player's game settings

especially for stuff like rendering preferences (e.g. vsync), since people may have any of a variety of issues or conditions that make certain game behaviors more or less tolerable (cf. settings in assorted games for things like colorblind modes, contrast settings, reducing motion effects, and so on)

[inland crater]

I see.

[inland crater]

What do you mean by "is public on Options.cs?"

[lucid iron]

i think if ur mod is named "disable vsync except when fishing" then it's 100% fine to disable vsync except when fishing

if it's named "better things" then i'd have issues

[inland crater]

"better things" it is.

[tiny zealot]

chu's point is fairly taken

[tiny zealot]

truly the mod name of all time

[lucid iron]

public as in the access modifier

public bool somefield; etc

[inland crater]

How do I make code to edit the game options?

[tiny zealot]

!startmodding figure out how to determine that the fishing minigame is active (change monitoring on updateticked, i expect, since i don't know if there's a good smapi event for it) and set the correct field on the Options class accordingly

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[tiny zealot]

^ use the C# link

[inland crater]

But whats the specific line that says "toggle vsync?"

How would I write that

[tiny zealot]

have you programmed before? (follow-up question: in C#?)

[inland crater]

Not really.

I just haven't seen anyone's mod toggle settings before, so idk where to start

[tiny zealot]

well, if you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe
(meaning: follow that link to getting started with C# mods, and follow the basic tutorial on there first to get your first mod working. then you'll be better equipped to understand the answer)

[inland crater]

i see

[lucid iron]

if u have the decompile to go look at Options.cs

[brisk wedge]

When writing transpiler patches is it better to use codematcher or to iterate through the list manually

[tiny zealot]

i use codematcher these days. afaik there's no difference in result, so use whatever you like better and/or can maintain more easily

[brisk wedge]

Sounds good thanks

[brisk wedge]

how does one match stloc_s? the number is supposed to be 7 but the operand is a local builder? and idk how to create a local builder instance?

[woeful lintel]

I just do if (a.IsStloc() && b.IsStloc()) return true; and it's enough for my use cases

[brittle pasture]

last I checked you need to cast the operand to some type which I can't remember for my life

so yeah I just match the opcode

hmm either sbyte or byte?

[brisk wedge]

I ended up doing the casting, and it seems to work? but now I have trouble creating a code instruction to use the thing that got saved

Eh problem for tomorrow thanks y'all

[quasi cedar]

Hey guys, is it possible to make a total conversion mod for Stardew Valley? I'm thinking of making a mod with a darker story and game mechanics.

[brittle pasture]

with enough code you can do anything

[quasi cedar]

Maybe like Fallout London? And I was thinking about game mechanics like Players having sanity when they're in a cave or something.

[brittle pasture]

keyword being enough

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/13614 is probably an example of something that really remakes the gameplay loop, though be warned it's out of date and does not work on latest SDV

[quasi cedar]

I mean, a mod with a new story and new game mechanics, but with a darker approach to the story and gameplay mechanics like sanity in caves or something like that.

[tender agate]

we have thirst/hunger mods so sanity would be similar to that

[uncut viper]

selph is being very literal with that "with enough code you can do anything"

[gray bear]

[uncut viper]

you can do literally whatever you want if you know C# and put the time and effort into it

any mod you desire

however something like that would require C# and programming experience

[gray bear]

and than watch another person do it in 10 lines or less

[brittle pasture]

!startmodding if you need pointers on how to start the entire thing here are instructions

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[brittle pasture]

I suggest you start small, do one thing at a time, like work to get a sanity meter into the game

[gray bear]

please do watch your for your own sanity meter

[brittle pasture]

story and content-wise, depending on how much of an overhaul you want the work could either be as simple as an expansion that just adds a town with new NPCs into Pelican Town

if you're actually looking to remake the entire world map/every character that'd be very annoying because much of the game code assumes they exist in one way or another

[fossil osprey]

Yeah, at that point I wonder if just making a game from scratch wouldn't be easier

[brave fable]

it's a bit of a trick, see here: #making-mods-general message

i think others have matched by byte, but this is more explicit (for better or worse)

incidentally i think it's better to use CodeMatcher, it's simply more readable + maintainable. all my projects match by index and it's far from beautiful, so i'm putting in the effort to get used to codematcher from here

[proud wyvern]

Heh https://github.com/Nanoray-pl/Shrike/blob/master/Shrike.Harmony/CodeInstructionExt.cs#L11-L63

I usually match by the local variable’s type

[brave fable]

merge into pardeike/harmony?

[proud wyvern]

i've kinda lost interest in supporting Harmony, but feel free to submit my utilities

i do still use it every day, but i'm just not really interested in its development

whenever i write any transpilers, i do so with my Shrike lib, and so do all of my users

[dim raft]

I Can’t seem to find it anywhere, so I am thinking of developing a mod that removes the need of the mine for progression.

My girlfriend Really wants to get into Stardew Valley, but Really dislikes the mine as a progression system, and as a fun side project, I thought, why not code it myself!

My question is probably more general - would Reading the guide on C# based mods be enough to get a grasp of what is needed, or do any of you already know of some pitfalls I need to know of from the description of my idea?

[gentle rose]

the main reason the mine is necessary for progression is the community center, right? it may actually be possible for you to add alternative sources for anything the bundles need even with just content patcher

[fossil osprey]

What's her issue with the mines precisely?

• Does she find mining in itself tedious? There is a mod that adds machines that can generate ores
• Is it the combat? I remember seeing a mod disabling monster damages, or you could look into player invincibility
• Is it just the fact you need to go deep but only have a checkpoint every 5 floors? Maybe you can look into unlocking the elevator from day 1

[calm nebula]

Very late but a localbuilder is just a tiny three member class that has the index, the type, and whether or not it is pinned.

LocalBuilder Class (System.Reflection.Emit) | Microsoft Learn https://share.google/zy6cbRHojqv5B3G6h

You don't need to do any casting, whatever

[deep beacon]

how do i apply this mod?

i can't zoom out much on mac so

i wanna try this mod to zooom out more

[iron ridge]

!mh but same as Aby other mod

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[deep beacon]

its my first mod

[latent flame]

!gs and if you run into any issues -modded help
(also more proper place for those kind of questions is #modded-stardew , this channel is for making mods)

[ocean sail]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

To use this command, type !gs.

[deep beacon]

oh alright

thanks

[dim raft]

Oh, the ore generation machine might actually be a solve. To my understanding, it is the progression loop of going deeper and deeper, and the combat. Using the machines might solve that problem. I Will have a look into it before starting any large project, thanks 🙂

[golden basin]

@brittle pasture https://smapi.io/log/f218f4d6caf24d109c7b685caabe6e54

im getting a error from animal config and im not sure what to make of it

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 43 C# mods and 17 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[sleek flint]

Hey everyone, can someone help me please
I am trying to make it possible to add a question BEFORE a channel plays in my Channel Framework. But no matter what I do, it never works. I have tried everything I could think of (except one) and every time the question plays, but the channel doesn't run. When I check the log it seems that the callback never works, and it never really knows when the player has answered, and because I tried too many things it most likely is because of a core game logic running. Anyway, I don't know what to do, I could be doing something stupid or that might not be possible, and I was wasting my time (doubt it).

[lucid iron]

Can you show us what you have

[sleek flint]

One second I am gonna open my laptop

[lucid iron]

If u got a link to repo that'd be best

[sleek flint]

Not only do I not have a link to a repo, but I think I deleted everything I did today 🥹
Luckily, I had backups from yesterday. But, although I can't show you exactly what I had. I can show you what I have rn plus what I basically did.

is that ok?

[lucid iron]

Well sure but u should probably keep your work committed lol

[golden basin]

i fixed my error

also hey chu

I was just curious if maybe, after the holidays if youve got time if you could like, help me with this c# thing for my auto feeder feature for my mod. Its not really related to automate it sort of would only have one function. and thats to hold the food if no plate is down and then to place it when the plate is placed in the building onto the plate

i have all the assets, i was thinking making it a machine would be best so ppl could have the satification of placing food into the machine

i could trade skill for the help? like if you need portraits done or sprites

[lucid iron]

Hm the thing sounds more like a EAC feature tho, if I do it it'd just be a pull request to selph

I also still don't understand if this is particularly different than just silo+hopper

[odd ginkgo]

kk so riddle me this, if there's an event that plays in the bus stop, and there's a version that plays when the Community Center is NOT complete, and a version that plays when it is - and the player sees the "not complete" version - later when they complete the CC, will the game try to show them the "complete" version at the bus stop? example attached below (ignore the un-i18n-ifiedness)

how do you tell the game "ignore this if player has seen x?"

[calm nebula]

The easiest way? Have them share the same ID

Look at Town

The pam house event

[odd ginkgo]

!!! oh!

true!

I'll take a look, thanks for guidance

forks.... forks and switchEvents here we come

[soft lance]

https://smapi.io/json/none/69ce63797c7345019c7237ff23932f20

Helllo

For Characters/Dialogue/Willy

How can I make it so this fishCaught thing works?

All my other dialogue works, however, I wanted to see if Willy would react to when the player caught a Marlin from my mod

I saw this in the vanilla games patch export

so I tried to make it for my mod, but when I spoke to Willy on two separate days after catching it, he never acknowledged it

[hallow prism]

you may not need the (o)

[soft lance]

hmm i'll try that rq

[soft lance]

WOW that worked, tysm!!!

[hallow prism]

sure! some dialogues format expect only one specific kind of id (here, object)

like, i don't believe it would be possible to have a npc react to fishing a furniture

(not directly i mean)

[soft lance]

loll that would be interesting

"Wow! You bought that furniture? From JoJaMart? Scammers, I tell ya.."

[odd ginkgo]

tricky tricky

[balmy valve]

[13:34:04 WARN Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "CtrlAltZero > EditData Data/LocationContexts" to Data/LocationContexts: there's no record matching key 'FallSpice.CtrlAltZero_Feywild' under Fields.

help. How add location context key

[urban patrol]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[royal stump]

⬆️, but that said, it sounds like you're trying to add a new entry but you're using "Fields" instead of "Entries"

[balmy valve]

ok

[latent mauve]

There is probably an easier way to implement that with an ActionOnPurchase in the shop entry creating a conversation topic, if all you need is a reaction to it having been bought. 😛

[west thunder]

chat

wtf are these krobus sprites supposed to be

I know the very first one, that's when you're hugging 'um.

But what are the gormless chirpy ones?

[balmy valve]

His 4-heart animation in the social menu

He does a little happy sway

[latent mauve]

I would guess one of them is the void pendant acceptance also

But maybe not

[balmy valve]

you should add a joke fish that's a Marlon. make it the rarest, hardest fish in the entire game.

[west thunder]

his what in the who-now

Like, the little profiles each NPC has when you click on them there?

I didn't know they had any animations.

Is it unique for each person, or do they just play pre-existing ones?

[tiny zealot]

it's defined in the character data. i forget what the field is

[slow basin]

little update to my map now that the paths are done im going to add some texture to the grass (i.e other plants)

[tiny zealot]

(it used to be hardcoded! we got a field for it in 1.6)

[balmy valve]

it's unique!!

[odd ginkgo]

so cool

[slow basin]

ty ty

[cinder orchid]

👋

[iron ridge]

Why do you keep just sending that emoji, it's been days now

[brittle pasture]

I sure hope they aren't doing it just to get level 5 and drop the hardest mr beast scam edit this server's ever seen

[balmy valve]

Help. I changed "fields" to "entries" and now all of my locations are gone??

https://smapi.io/log/842d05500ee246d8a442140ebc7f0b64

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 8 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[balmy valve]

Hang on wait

Onesec

https://smapi.io/log/be09bf8166ed456695337d49db1ce9e8

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 8 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[balmy valve]

New log

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/eb39934039214c96abf9b10618203a7b

And here is the json. I didn't change anything about data locations, only the location context

[brittle pasture]

your block on line 2144 overwrote everything added by the block on line 500

just merge the latter into the former

[latent mauve]

Yep, editing the entry in that way on line 2144 effectively nuked those locations so that the map path was lost.

[brittle pasture]

and just in case restart the game after you do so

[balmy valve]

a ok

Here goes

ok so it worked but also one of my chara sprites is now messed up. it's showing part of his face next to him while he walks, it's really weird

fixed that too smh

[soft lance]

Honestly I was thinking of that Le Chocolate meme and was thinking of a Le Chocolate fish but im too busy to maek anything : (

https://tenor.com/view/fisch-fish-chocolat-lam-lycée-des-arts-et-métiers-gif-5718197077866989729

[autumn tide]

HEY yk i was the one who gave you the idea ya plagiarizer /j

[soft lance]

yeah, i know who thought of that odd idea

thats how i learned it even existed

😭

[autumn tide]

PLAGIARISM I SAY /s

[soft lance]

Evil Claude is gonna plagiarize me

[soft lance]

BEGONE!

[autumn tide]

[soft lance]

[autumn tide]

anyways i'm gonna go bake pls yell at me if i yap here in the next hour i have to do baking

[soft lance]

what u making

[autumn tide]

...idk yet cookies prolly

[slender matrix]

someone should make a mod where you can say extremely aggressive responses to the townsfolk

example; Demetrius tells you how he got into an argument with his wife for calling tomatoes fruits or vegetables, you reply “Eeehhh acskuashlly tomates are fruiitss!! No one cares, nerd, no one in this town cares, I don’t. You think this matters, like having elementary school knowledge makes you an intellectual? You’re pathetic, I hope she leaves you, I hope Maru and Sebastian don’t remember you.”

Every single interaction in the game should have an option like this

I think it’d be funny

[urban patrol]

if you want to learn how to make that mod, we'd be happy to help you learn

if you just want to suggest an idea there's a repo on github you can throw it in

[hard fern]

Considering how there's already vanilla events/dialogue that let you say wildly inappropriate things already XD sure, why not go the whole way

[fading jasper]

Guys, I did something

I'm super proud of myself

(i don't know how to upload videos yet)

[lucid iron]

Mkv...

[urban patrol]

you can upload to youtube and then post a link

[lucid iron]

If u turn it into mp4 it should become uploadable

[fading jasper]

Oh, okay!

https://youtu.be/OANxUmPTu8c

It will be used for Letter from my new NPC

[urban patrol]

that's cool! i like how it flies away at the end

[fading jasper]

Yay! :DDD It took me few hours, because I didn't know that letter in cloud are two separate sprites

But it works now :DD

[grand lantern]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7320f7e3f2b44d1fa297ee5cd4876d3e#code.187

im looking at this and it has this error about how i already have the ID path under MoveEntries. what is the right way to re-write this section so it works properly?

        "MoveEntries": [
            {
                "ID": "{{ModId}}_{{LT_ChickenId}}Mayonnaise",
                "ToPosition": "Top",
                "ID": "{{ModId}}_{{LT_ChickenId}}MayonnaiseLarge",
                "ToPosition": "Top"
            }],

basically its only working for the MayonnaiseLarge entry, not the regular Mayonnaise entry. i know this is a dumb question im just derping on how to make it right lol.

[urban patrol]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#moving-list-entries each one needs to be in its own set of {}

[grand lantern]

thank you ill try that!

[urban patrol]

there's an example right at where i linked if you need it

[grand lantern]

i knew it was something dumb i was doing lol.

[urban patrol]

who among us hasn't made dumb mistakes before lol

also, that wasn't dumb, you just didn't know

[cinder orchid]

👋

[gentle rose]

…

[autumn tide]

oh ffs

[calm nebula]

Thin crust pizza is good but also what are you here for?

[hard fern]

I don't think we'll ever know

[autumn tide]

tis a mystery for the ages

[brave fable]

gfhjjjgds

[gentle rose]

hi blueberry I agree

[ornate trellis]

these are all send several days at a specific time....is this via some sorta bot or w/e...this is so weird 🤨

[autumn tide]

bot i think

or just a reallllly dedicated troller

which

like respect ngl if they're that dedicated

it's funny

[lucid mulch]

discord username of keyboardmash_number leans troll over bot

[gentle rose]

and the times aren’t that consistent either

[stray hemlock]

I don't understand people who like thin crust pizza. Only neapolitan pizza is good pizza.

[ornate trellis]

you think its an insider? one of us doing some silly or just a rando

[stray hemlock]

It's not me.

[autumn tide]

hm

[hard fern]

consider: you aren't chewing forever on the crust

[ornate trellis]

I mean consistent enough that for me it reads several days midnight, several days 8pm etc

[brave fable]

the 'rust' in the username leads me to think it's atra

[autumn tide]

not me but ngl it would be funny

[stray hemlock]

But crust is best if it's a good dough.

[lucid mulch]

I want my pizza to have structural integrity when im eating it

[autumn tide]

..atra 👀

[hard fern]

i mean yeah i do eat the crust handle thing of the pizza

[stray hemlock]

A good pizza needs leopard spots. Every Italian can tell you that.

[gentle rose]

I’m not sure I get the funny tbh, it’s just kinda nothing

[lucid mulch]

italians don't know how to make pizza though as they think its a savory dish

[autumn tide]

the dedication to log on every day

[ornate trellis]

so, i prefer thin crust pizza but i am NOT that person

[hard fern]

sinz what kind of pizza are you eating

[gentle rose]

tbf chocolate pizza has always intrigued me

[ornate trellis]

what is it then in your opinion

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6858 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1452802674750652527)

[ornate trellis]

our store recently got tiramisu pizza

[autumn tide]

everyone is suspect for loving thin crust pizza 👀

[calm nebula]

Whichbif y'all is making a pizza mod

[gentle rose]

sounds awful

[autumn tide]

guilty until proved innocent

[gentle rose]

you should do it

[ornate trellis]

i know better than to spend my money on it but the image on the carton already looks rather unappealing

[gentle rose]

I’m still in portrait jail

[stray hemlock]

Wait, is there no pizza in the game? It's been ages since I've played.

[hard fern]

i mean i have one but

[gentle rose]

there is one iirc

[hard fern]

there is one pizza

it is The Pizza

nondescript cheese pizza

[ornate trellis]

we clearly need more

[ornate trellis]

maybe even sold in a pizzaria

prefferingly with checkerprint design on the wall

[stray hemlock]

Okay, time to make a pizza mod. Make a dedicated building and then have it be a side job.

[hard fern]

id number 206

[autumn tide]

'nondescript cheese pizza' sounds like what we're dubbing this new troller LOL

[gentle rose]

I never understood those things when people say something is a pizza but it’s just a flat bread with a non-tomato sauce and no cheese

[autumn tide]

what even is food when you think about it

[ornate trellis]

damn

[gentle rose]

is this not savoury?

[brave fable]

truly the modern human addiction to categorising is hitting food discussion hard

[autumn tide]

it is fun

[gentle rose]

would you like to see my “liquid based foods” diagram

[stray hemlock]

You even have to ask?

[autumn tide]

i've always wanted to get into a brawl about the definition of a sandwhich

[lucid mulch]

all the meats, good amount of bbq sauce, good cheese foundation and the crust is thick enough for structural stability

[autumn tide]

life goal of mine

[ornate trellis]

i highly enjoyed the what counts as a sandwich talk we once had

[viscid carbon]

they also do this in #stardew-spoilers, do what you want with this information (pretty much same time as here)

[brave fable]

what an odd punnet square

[stray hemlock]

A sandwitch is any female sorcerer that lives in the desert.

[autumn tide]

okay do we wanna debate?

[lucid mulch]

The only correct way to categorize food is the cube rule

[ornate trellis]

where does water go

[stray hemlock]

Cereal isn't necessarily sweet though.

[autumn tide]

cause what about sodas like coke 👀

[gentle rose]

I wonder if hot/cold is recessive

soda and water are drinks, overruled

[autumn tide]

HEHE

[ornate trellis]

like, what is water

is a wrap a sushi

[hard fern]

burrito

[lucid mulch]

if its got no backing on one side then yes, otherwise its a bread bowl

[gentle rose]

what about the options not included

[stray hemlock]

What about non-euclidean geometry?

[uncut viper]

hi i wanna make a mod is this the right channel

[ornate trellis]

what about the sushi that is just rice with something on top with no rolling

[gentle rose]

I would argue a pitta bread is like a bread bowl but without the front face

[ornate trellis]

no sorry this is making food channel

[gentle rose]

[lucid mulch]

This is clearly mod ideation for LoC expansions its totally on-topic

[brave fable]

i would like the enum result of Cube.2 ~ Cube.1 as valid food thanks

i will not format this expression correctly

[gentle rose]

isn’t that just Cube.1 rotated

[hard fern]

toast. hope that helps

[gentle rose]

I assumed we are equivalent under rotation

[ornate trellis]

thank you, this is enlightening

[brave fable]

i specifically only want upper bread.

[lucid mulch]

upside down toast is still toast

[stray hemlock]

Even then, what about two adjacent sides?

[calm nebula]

Anyways

[ornate trellis]

it jsut abides by murphys law

[gentle rose]

if upper bread and lower bread are different foods that opens a whole new host of problems

[calm nebula]

I used to live next to a pizza place

[hard fern]

upper bread....

[calm nebula]

Where i never saw anyone get pixza

[ornate trellis]

ah, that kinda pizza place

[hard fern]

so a front? XD

[calm nebula]

Consider French onion soup

[stray hemlock]

What happens if you actually order pizza there?

[lucid mulch]

I've probably ordered more bolognese pasta from pizza shops than pizza at this point

[gentle rose]

toast

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6859 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1452804575273680950)

[ornate trellis]

this is giving None Pizza with Left Beef mood