making-mods-general

[cyan marsh]

those mostly replace music

[autumn tide]

ohhhh okay

[cyan marsh]

so, yeah

[ornate trellis]

good news, my crabpot fish work on the first try

[autumn tide]

i thought it added music

[autumn tide]

[cyan marsh]

some instances it does..

[autumn tide]

i'll try it out! ...when i actually play stardew... more of an 'if' atp..

[cyan marsh]

Like secret woods has different music in winter

[autumn tide]

aight i'm gonna go work on some portraits now :) nice chat!

[brave oxide]

Hello, I have an idea for a mod that I would like to bring to life, but I have no knowledge of programming. I was hoping to rely heavily on ChatGPT and the frameworks listed on the wiki. Could someone with experience working with these frameworks give me an idea of which one would be most appropriate to use?

My idea is basically to create “special interactions” between combined rings. For example, combining the burglar's ring and the napalm ring would result in the “piñata ring" with an improved effect that replaces that of the two rings that compose it. Instead of having those effects, it would have a “super” effect (with a 2% chance) of causing an explosion that would release the equivalent of 3-5 times the enemy's loot.

I've looked into frameworks a little, and I'm not sure if “BC” would help me change the “crafts” in the forge.

[lucid iron]

Please do not rely heavily on chatgpt

[cyan marsh]

[lucid iron]

As for what you want to do, I don't think there's any framework that targets combined rings so it will have to be custom C#

Do you have programming experience?

[brave oxide]

no :c

[uncut viper]

and be aware that if you use chatgpt regardless of the warning, this server will not be able to help you with it when it inevitably breaks, as AI generated content is not allowed in this server, and that includes code

[lucid iron]

Hm combined ring is a netlist nice

[brave oxide]

idk, sorry

[lucid iron]

You could just append a third ring to do what u want

[elfin kindle]

Yeah it won't really be a solid way of making a mod, especially since understanding what you've made i suuuper important. Plus it's a fun skill to learn, i promise!

[lucid iron]

Do that on equip

That'd be the no harmony approach

[cyan marsh]

I learned C# to make my first SMAPI mod.. it's not that hard.. tho I don't understand things unless i see how it looks

[heavy pewter]

AIs can't even make a functioning code, they just spit gibberish

[lucid iron]

But yeah remember that framework mod = C# someone else wrote and exposed to content for reuse

When you want something no existing framework touches then you gotta do it yourself

[cyan marsh]

Thus my event repeater x3

[lucid iron]

The main thing is that idk if there's any game state query way to check what rings r in the combined ring atm

And the secondary thing is that you want some pretty niche effects that'll be a lot easier if you just did it custom

[elfin kindle]

I really can't have the FromFile be from the original game i am starting to accept.... Which leaves me in the dilemma of either packaging the original games sprites or just letting you override one cat color with the mod cat skin......

[hard fern]

what r u trying to do

[elfin kindle]

Let you choose which cat is used in my mod events ^^" I made a false NPC with cat sprites but i'd like to let you choose which of the cats it is, currently its my own drawn one but some mod players are wanting the ability to choose

[hard fern]

o hmm

[elfin kindle]

Yeah I feel like I'm so close to a solution that it'd be annoying to have to "quit" buuut also it's one small sacrifice to make to play my mod and i've helped commenters who want to turn it off go into the files and well.. turn it off

[lucid iron]

u can provide instructions to replace ur png with pet image of choice

should be same shape

[elfin kindle]

yeah I think I'll just do that honestly, it'll be the easiest for me and they can throw in any other mod provided pet sprites too for personal use

[brittle pasture]

this will surely have no terrible unforseen consequences whatsoever

[calm nebula]

That's probably fine but wow why do they zig zag like that

[uncut viper]

optimal path

dont question it

[lucid iron]

Lemmings

[karmic gust]

Idk how to phrase this correctly but I want to double check that there isn't a GSQ or something that keeps track of specific museum donations, right? There's just one for the number of donations made?

[brittle pasture]

MUSEUM_DONATIONS

oh wait I read too fast

[royal stump]

yeah, I don't think specific items are tracked (by existing GSQs), but that can check types

[karmic gust]

Yeah that's what I figured. I have an event taking place at the museum, requiring it to be completed because they're discussing certain artifacts and it was pointed out to me that only like... 7% of steam players have the completed museum achievement soooo I just wanted to double check that

[calm nebula]

Make your own museum reward

Put the reward as a mail flag

[karmic gust]

I didn't know you could do that with CP!

[calm nebula]

Data/MuseumRewards i think

[royal stump]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Museum

[karmic gust]

Thank you! I'll read up on that

[royal stump]

(I bookmark these every time they come up & I still didn't have that, I'll never run out )

[brave fable]

(just use the category page!! you don't need 100 bookmarks when they're all collected for you)

[calm nebula]

Just memorize everything easy

[royal stump]

oh, I figured that wouldn't show enough because of fandom conditioning

[brave fable]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/category:modding

burned into my brain

[royal stump]

(but my firefox url bar only shows bookmarks & it's easy, so I'll keep doing it)

[tender agate]

I was wondering if we could edit the optimal path algo to add 0.0001tiles on turns or something to stop zigzagging

[brittle pasture]

ok good, Robin didn't go through the backwoods for the desert festival, so that's a total of 1 test case done (though I do have SpaceCore...)
anyway anyone who has a decently populated save wants to test this is welcome

[royal stump]

sagely nodding

while still doing this

[calm nebula]

Wat

Shouldnt...she

It's short

I guess not

Mountain town bus

Mountain backwoods bus

Anyways

[brittle pasture]

yeah I am praying that the fact that Town is before Backwoods means it should get picked first according to the game's macro pathfinder

[calm nebula]

Yes

[royal stump]

so re: earlier discussion, is there any obvious issue with texture loads/edit redirects?
feels like someone would've frameworked it before

//tbd as an asset
AssetLoadRedirects.Add("Characters/Abigail", "Maps/springobjects");
AssetLoadRedirects.Add("Characters/Sam", "Maps/spring_outdoorsTileSheet");

private void Content_AssetRequested(object sender, StardewModdingAPI.Events.AssetRequestedEventArgs e)
{
    if (e.DataType == typeof(Texture2D) && AssetLoadRedirects.TryGetValue(e.Name.BaseName, out string redirectName))
    //Game1.content.Load the redirect etc```

[lucid iron]

What's the worst that could happen anyway the npc can have fun in backwoods if they want

[royal stump]

with static typing because I'm not sure if Load<object> would break

[lucid iron]

the issue is invalidation

you have to be the propagator of texture changes

[royal stump]

ah, yeah, wouldn't update the redirects ig

[lucid iron]

heres my unreleased crimes for this sort of thing https://github.com/Mushymato/SpriteCompositor

it only tracks 1 level and the target asset is special by design

https://github.com/Mushymato/SpriteCompositor/blob/main/SpriteCompositor/Framework/AssetManager.cs#L72-L88

i think if u do a proper graph data structure

and cycle check

u can just keep doing willinvalidatenexttick handling

until u finish propagating

[lucid mulch]

loading from the same content manager is scary

[royal stump]

yeah, I haven't had to prod the invalidation system (or assets in general) enough to worry about that before, complicates it a bit compared to the few line test setup

[lucid mulch]

specifically for textures, you need to be very careful

https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/src/SMAPI/Metadata/CoreAssetPropagator.cs#L147-L236 is the code that you need to design your solution around

[lucid iron]

i dont think there was any premult alpha problems tho, surprisingly

[calm nebula]

Yeah, it's a sorta....hmm

[lucid mulch]

the fear is you can accidently put a disposed texture back into the pipeline

[lucid iron]

it was mostly me getting into shenanigans in which i stack overflow assetrequested

[calm nebula]

You either track cycles, in which case the user will be wary of using it (by possibly becoming a member in a cycle)

Or you don't

[royal stump]

I only went as far as trying to track looping redirects -> oh right, smapi breaks loop first anyway

[calm nebula]

And you death loop

[royal stump]

but yeah, no personal plans to learn how textures work if it's required for that feature

[lucid mulch]

AssetRequested itself will only run once per tick per asset, and cache the load/edit operations

[lucid iron]

we should rly just

[calm nebula]

Meanwhile if I can cleanly just handle my own case, and avoid even possibly getting in that mess

[lucid iron]

dehardcode more bits that enforce a certain namespace for asset

which is what ATA/proposed smapi PR from buttons does for maps

[royal stump]

yeah, probably easier to get actors to look outside Characters/ than to dupe the texture etc

[lucid iron]

u can prob add like

Esca.tempActor

new event command works just like tempActor but no namespace restrict

[royal stump]

for that specific example earlier, I'd probably just say to build the player's pet from TAS
though I only half-read & got sidetracked poking the asset events

[lucid iron]

well i do think petActor would work, there's prob just move/advanced move shenanigans in the way

[royal stump]

but yeh, events and such are much easier to staple on alt texture versions

[lucid iron]

its gonna be a pain to fix that

so i think go do personal png replace is fine until enough spoons

[calm nebula]

Chue, do appearances enforce

[lucid iron]

i dont understand the meaning

[calm nebula]

The characters/blah and portraits/blah

Do appearances enforcement thar

[royal stump]

looks like no

"Portrait": "Portraits/Caroline_Winter",
"Sprite": "Characters/Caroline_Winter",

[lucid iron]

naw they dont care

[royal stump]

oh, the base texture might force Characters/ though

[calm nebula]

I think there is an event command ro change to an appearance but that might be betas

[lucid iron]

base texturename is joined with Characters yes

but atra the problem is more that

this aint real actor

[calm nebula]

There is now a random nonspcial npc in town

I'm sure no one will mind a random cat npc

[lucid mulch]

base texture enforces Characters/ but doesnt care if you have / or other stuff in the TextureName

[calm nebula]

Can you do "../Tilesheets"

Also aren't cats characters

Or are they Animals

[lucid mulch]

smapi still intercepts all asset manager loads and would presumably detect that as climbing and refuse it

[royal stump]

I think everything character-y derives from Character, but they have a subtype beyond that

[calm nebula]

Yeah

[lucid iron]

r u saying to patch IAssetName or whatever resolve thing is happening

[calm nebula]

(Smapi asset inequality also doesn't know about ..)

Resolving that isnt trivial,the algorithm is lazy

[royal stump]

I interpreted that as "just set NPC data to "TextureName": "..\\TileSheets\\myTexture" "

but yeah

[calm nebula]

You could do a lookahead and discard current segment

[lucid mulch]

I must have just been thinking of the tilesheet logic, and it doesnt apply to asset names themselves

[royal stump]

(oh right, Cat and Dog classes still exist in 1.6 because load-bearing migration bits...)

[calm nebula]

Does it work though

[royal stump]

and pets are NPCs but farm animals aren't

[brittle pasture]

and honses

[calm nebula]

I think the load will work but I'm not sure asset propagation will understand it

[brittle pasture]

the ol sebastian horse bug

[lucid mulch]

I think if it went into XNB loading it might respect the ../ but I dont think smapi content pipeline will actually do the directory style logic

[calm nebula]

Agreed

[lucid mulch]

and will do AssetRequests for Characters/../TileSheets/myTexture

[calm nebula]

Wrlp. Who wants to write the PR to make assetname understand that

[royal stump]

I think I prefer when asset names are meaningless text

[calm nebula]

I'm on a stairmaster

[lucid mulch]

it will go through trim calls and remove .xnb if its at the end, and check if it ends with valid localization but not treat it as a directory

[calm nebula]

Immunity

[royal stump]

..\ yourself down and get to work

[brave fable]

you're climbing already. now for the tilesheets

[royal stump]

or is that up, idk

[calm nebula]

I will stay on this stairmaster forever dont tempt me

[eager tree]

Hi! I made an add-on to the mod the Muttering Farmer. It's a mod that makes text bubbles appear on the top of the farmer related to the context they're in. The author made it possible for anyone to add as many lines as they wanted or replace the original ones, using 18in files and his coding. I made my own additions, but I wanted to make it possible for players to choose if they want to disable any of the lines I made (e.g., disable lines for Abigail or Sam). The original mod already allows disabling for a few categories, such as spouses or location lines, but not for specific NPCs. I've been trying to do so for hours, and I can't seem to find a way to make a config file or make it show on Generic Config Mod. I don't know what I'm doing wrong or if it's simply not possible. I know this might lack detail to anyone who doesn't know the mod I'm talking about, but I genuinely don't know what to do 😭 I've tried looking for kind of similar mods? Like mods that add dialogue lines to other existing mods, but they're different since they edit and use different files?

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md

have you read this

[eager tree]

Yes :/

[vernal crest]

!json Show us what you've got so far

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[eager tree]

https://smapi.io/json/none/560be5fc9c664b59bbd4eceb2f6725dd

[vernal crest]

That looks correct. You said it's not showing up in GMCM or creating a config.json?

[eager tree]

Yes

It is an add-on to another mod, which has a very unique mechanic per se? I don't know if that's what's creating an issue? I couldn't really take a look at it since it's a DLL file

Even my 18in files are different due to the mod being coded differently? I don't know how to explain better

[loud sandal]

@eager tree You are doing everything right, but I don't think anything in YunHikari's code exposes what you're trying to do. Me personally, I'd just make a small SMAPI mod using C# and Harmony and create a config that way.

Well you may not need Harmony, maybe just reflection would be enough, not sure though because I can't see their code.

[eager tree]

Thank you for the suggestion. I've been trying to study C# recently, but I don't know a lot yet. Do you think that for someone who has few knowledge about it it would be too difficult to create a config file that way?

[loud sandal]

You would need to look at the code for the Muttering Farmer, find maybe some extension API

[uncut viper]

what do you expect your config to do? The Muttering Farmer loads its own content packs and looks for their translation keys, you cant configure that

(thats a genuine question not a snarky one, im not sure 100% what your intent is here and trying to understand better)

i dont know what was in your included file

[eager tree]

I added a lot of a lines for specific NPCs, like Sam. But I would like to give the players an option to disable those lines in case it conflicts with their gameplay style. There are no lines for Sam in the original mod, just for non specified NPCs, but the mod author made it possible for other people to add lines for specific NPCs using his key generator and such (https://sorrylab.com/StardewValley/TFMGenerator.html)
I don't know if this explains better

[uncut viper]

what was in your included file though? TMF doesnt support edits via content patcher at all

[loud sandal]

You want to disable it for your lines only, not globally for everything -> JSON would not be enough imo

[uncut viper]

there is no functionality to do this with TMF

[eager tree]

I'm not sure I understand your question, sorry. There was dialogue lines in the format that works with TMF. The mod works fine, just this options that I couldn't make it work.
But thank you for your help. Didn't realize it doesn't with content patcher like that. I'll take a look into doing with C# like XanCreations said ^^

[uncut viper]

its not trivial with C# either

[lucid iron]

i guess u can always 2cakes muttering farmer

[eager tree]

Then there's no way to make it work? Isn't TMF written in C#? sorry if it's a dumb question

[lucid iron]

make ur own and expose it to content

[loud sandal]

It's a bit of a learning curve, but if you stick at it, try and give it a go. Start with modconfig class and some bools for your NPCs, go from there.

[uncut viper]

something being written in C# doesnt mean you can edit it with C# the same way you can edit a json

[lucid iron]

idk if that mod's open source but if it was PR is an option

[uncut viper]

making a config for your own C# portion is trivial. geting it to apply within TMF is not trivial

its not open source

nor source available unless the author just didnt link their github on the mod page

[lucid iron]

+1 to making your own take then

[loud sandal]

You would need to use a tool to see the code -> You can message YunHikari and ask for permission.

[lucid iron]

i dont actually think a mod like this is very difficult to make

obviously do not use the original lines from muttering farmer

[uncut viper]

it would likely be less difficult to make your own take on the mod than to do all the fucky reflection stuff required to hack it into TMF

[loud sandal]

Yeah it can be a bit of work, depends if you're into that @eager tree

[eager tree]

I'm definitely into it, I just will need to sit down and learn how to do it. Though I feel a bit lost as to where to start. I'll message the author to know if he allows me to look into his code, to start studying? Thank you the three of you for explaining it to me

[uncut viper]

to be clear you dont need permission to look at the code, you can already do that

but if you planned on still making it work with TMF through your own C# mod then you would need their permission to publish

[loud sandal]

Yup

[loud sandal]

If it seems a lot of work, you can try something a bit easier, and then when you're more experienced come back to that project later

[lucid iron]

i never even used muttering farmer but i think how i'd write a mod like this is

1. define a bunch of events that could have farmer responses, some could just be smapi event some might be a harmony patch to specific spot
2. implement the drawing speech bubble stuff in RenderedWorld event
3. load a custom asset from content that defines event -> farmer response line

voila trigger actions have been reinvented

[uncut viper]

personally, i think you should take the much much easier route of just making a different i18n file per character and telling people to delete the ones they dont want

if you use the folder-style of i18n, this would work easily

[lucid iron]

when u load from content u do give other mods a chance to put in their lines

so maybe a crop mod might add a more specific dialogue about their very stinky flower

[eager tree]

I think I will do that for now! while I'm still learning. but I do want how to learn how to make more complex mods anyway, so I'll try to do both ^^

[eager tree]

thanks!! I'll try doing this with simple things and see if it works and work from there

[uncut viper]

in this case, the required things you'd need to do to make this work with TMF are things that i would feel confident in saying 98% of C# mods do not bother to do

[lucid iron]

if u dont want to deal with draw for now

u can always use the game chat or hudmessage

[uncut viper]

in the grand scheme of C# its far from the most challenging thing, just an annoying thing that, usually, there are better ways to achieve like an API. TMF just doesnt have one

(this is just to say that i think there are better kinds of "complex" mod to learn to make that will be much more practical)

[lucid iron]

but it being a not too hard to impl thing is nice when u r learn

[uncut viper]

to be clear im talking about the approach of hacking your way into TMF's process via reflection and harmony

not the roll your own implementation way

[lucid iron]

ah yes breaking into another mod is many hurdles

[uncut viper]

rolling your own i think would be very good learning

[eager tree]

thank u very much ^^ I would have probably spent a few more hours trying to make it work without ur guys help lmao

[tiny zealot]

(C# dotnet build shenanigans) i am tinkering with having a shared project for my mods and i could use some guidance.
what i want:

• have a bunch of .cs files in the shared project
• reference this project from another one
• the source files are compiled directly into the referencing project (into the same dll)
  what i've been able to get so far is compiling the shared project into a separate dll that gets bundled in the mod zip, which i would like to avoid.
  anyone know how to set up the xml files for this? i am not using an IDE so i am looking for .csproj etc syntax and not VS instructions

[lucid iron]

I have example hold on

[uncut viper]

example probably better than my less helpful suggestion which was to just copy what Pathos does for his mods

[lucid iron]

This is my TAS stuff
https://github.com/Mushymato/ExtendedTAS/blob/main/ExtendedTAS.projitems
I submodule that in another mod
And i put this in the csproj https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/MiscMapActionsProperties/MiscMapActionsProperties.csproj#L29

After that I can using Mushymato.ExtendedTAS;

[loud sandal]

Just to give you a heads up, I had a look at the code real quick and you may need to do a harmony prefix on the event trigger. Basically all the speech bubbles go through one method, you could intercept here and then have it show or not. But this can be a little advanced if you're not familiar with it.

[uncut viper]

did you need to do anything specific to get GitHub to have a link to the shared project in the repo

[lucid iron]

Is that what u want ichor

[lucid iron]

This is a git submodule

I didn't need to do it this way but i did cus not a monorepo

[uncut viper]

i understand (<--- does not, but has no plans to use it anyway)

[lucid iron]

Well i google it every time too

It's something like u git submodule <mysterious additional args>

And then u have this https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/.gitmodules

[uncut viper]

at this point im far too set in my modding git habits that its too late for me to make significant changes to my process now

my brain doesnt have enough plastic in it i think

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/boostorg/boost

We should all aspire to this the ultimate not mono repo

[uncut viper]

dont like a repo called more

[tiny zealot]

thanks, chu! this is useful

[upper rune]

Can I ask why there are a billion mods about tortillas now? What happened since I last hyperfixated on Stardew lol??

[tiny zealot]

no one should aspire to boost

[loud sandal]

Wait you're mushymato?

[tiny zealot]

yep, that's mushymato all right

[lucid iron]

Another victim

[loud sandal]

I didn't even know

[lucid iron]

[loud sandal]

I feel like long time fan here, I study so hard your trinket tinker lol

[vernal crest]

There was a brief window of joke mods that happened when oclarina made a mod to centre the tortilla sprite and then 6480 made one that massively offset it instead.

[lucid iron]

I'm glad it's useful and i hope it is not too elaborate for ur purposes

[upper rune]

I see 🤭

[loud sandal]

I figured it out in the end, came up with some interesting trinkets with it

[lucid iron]

Yes pokemans

I look forward to actually playing again in like 1.6.16

[uncut viper]

1.6.16? i didnt realize you moved your plans ahead of schedule

[lucid iron]

Scheme to get other ppl to make things is working

[uncut viper]

i still need to make my trinket i wanted to make with trinket tinker, but... art...

[lucid iron]

Well 1.6.16 was 1.7 so that seems fair right

[uncut viper]

no

[lucid iron]

nou

[split dome]

Hi, I'm really new to modding stardew, but I was wondering, is there a 'while' statement (idk the proper term) that I could use for sprite editing, where the sprites would only remain edited while a certain condition is true?

[vernal crest]

Yes, you're looking for the When field in Content Patcher - or if you're using the Appearance system for an NPC, the Condition field which takes GSQs.

[split dome]

Okay thankyou, I'll try it out!

[next plaza]

It's been a while since Spenny has appeared. She was simply biding her time, building up her power until she became unstoppable.

The world may not revolve around you, but it sure does revolve around (S)Penny. Introducing: Penny the Reality Warper

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/40111?

oops. should hit publish

...did publish get "mod unavailable" too? agh

Anyways, video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhufSkuFNi4

[uncut viper]

(unfortunately that is why i always wait a bit between hitting publish and posting it in here )

[urban patrol]

i feel like "compatible" is a strong word for what this mod is skdjhfksdjhf

[next plaza]

It's compatible with other mods. Just not with you playing in the same location as her.

[loud sandal]

This needs interstellar music, lol the toddler is breaking reality

[urban patrol]

ooh animals are also immune it looks like

[next plaza]

Children are immune, because Penny loves children and totally not because I couldn't figure out why that didn't work.

(I already had to fight chests for like an hour. The base mod took like 10 minutes, probably much less if you don't count boilerplate.)

Also added this to the description, so newer players don't miss out.

[urban patrol]

does this + spenny cancel out, or only increase her power

[next plaza]

They all stack (except maybe Spenny with Spenny Lite? unsure about that, it might just supercharge her if you talk to her)

The video does not include the other mods, since I was just getting the features of this mod.

This mod and information brought to you by the Spenny Cinematic Universe

anyways it's way past bedtime bye

[urban patrol]

love it

oh wait before you go!

i wanted to tell you i've been looking into spawnables and set pieces and i'm very excited to make procgen mazes using spacecore

[next plaza]

...the showcase says "Penny the Reality Warper", not "Spenny the Reality Warper". Dang it

[next plaza]

Let me know when it's ready! I'm excited to see mods using set pieces, I'm not sure I've seen any yet

[pallid patio]

does anybody know where to find the vanilla object ids? Ive been searching them all up individually

[next plaza]

(ie. it's also what I forwarded to friends and other servers)

[urban patrol]

it'll be a very long while because i also have to learn C# for many things but will do

[urban patrol]

https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/ i use this

[pallid patio]

thank you!

[iron ridge]

Add a url query to be a new url to the cache and the embed will be fixed :)

[uncut viper]

too late for the showcase, though

[inland cedar]

Windows 11. I been using VS for a while and thinking about switch to VS code. Does VS code support hot reload like in VS? Cannot find much information about that

[brave fable]

!reload

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

• Content Patcher pack: enter patch reload <your_mod_id> in the SMAPI console window. This will reload and reapply all your patches (but won't recalculate the ConfigSchema or DynamicToken sections if you use them).
• Translation files: enter reload_i18n in the SMAPI console window. If it's for a Content Patcher pack, also run patch reload afterwards.
• C#: see the Visual Studio hot reload or Rider hot reload feature.

To use this command, type !reload.

[brave fable]

i don't think anyone considers VS and VSCode interchangeable, for reasons including the lack of hot reload

[warped perch]

Hi!

Had a few questions, what kind of skills are required for making mods, and where could i find documentation for learning that? As i'm playing a lot lately i'm getting kinda curious

[brave fable]

hi, making mods usually takes a little bit of everything; usually creativity, problem-solving, and patience

!gs is the main guide i think

[ocean sail]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

To use this command, type !gs.

[brave fable]

nope wrong one

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[warped perch]

Thanks

[brave fable]

if you're familiar with folder structures and JSON files you've got a good headstart

[warped perch]

No idea what those means 😔

[brave fable]

pixel art and C# knowledge are a bonus depending on what you're working on

[warped perch]

I tried learning pixel art but adhd got the best of me and i forgor i was learning that

[brave fable]

really it depends on what you're working on, obviously a larger or more complex mod will use more different skills and features, characters and locations will ask more art ability, dialogue requiring the least of all different skills, and so on

[vernal crest]

I think determination is the main thing you need, really. The technical skill barrier is not super high, it just takes a willingness to keep looking for answers and trying things.

[merry river]

i'm a newbie to making mods, what helps in addition to what berry mentioned is being not entirely computer illiterate and by that i mean basic computer skills lmao and knowing where to look for answers (and if you don't find them, you drop in here and people are patiently trying to help)

for the love of everything that's unholy don't start with an npc if you get easily overwhelmed and your adhd likes to get the better of you (source: it's me. i started with an npc)

[warped perch]

Lol, fair enough

[merry river]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher

this is a good introduction to CP modding

wow i just had think about how i started out one month ago and the evil comma was my biggest enemy. i already learned so much in such a short time

[regal leaf]

Hi, is there a way to make a mod check a config schema from another mod to activate some of its features? I want mod A to add a cooking recipe when a config schema from mod B is set to 'true'.
Right now I wrote it like this in my .json files (first image is from mod B, and second image is from mod A).
Third image is what my SMAPI log tells me when I boot up the game, which doesn't surprise me, but I can't find a solution to my problem online... 😅

[vernal crest]

You need the mod Cross-Mod Compatibility Tokens: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28284

[regal leaf]

Thank you, I will take a look! ☺️

[shy trout]

Are there any videos that walk through how to make modded events in stardew valley? I find tutorials easier to follow along if I can see it as a video or somehing

Even just a walkthrough with pictures/screenshots would work too

Thanks!

[vernal crest]

Not anything up to date, and unfortunately events changed enough in 1.6 that an older video would give you incorrect information.

[heavy pewter]

Guys, why does the item cost 1000 in game?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e353bc382f9a43339811e9bd67c4de1d

[vernal crest]

Shops have a built in 2x modifier for price (4x at Pierre's iirc - though you're adding it to Pierre's so maybe not)

[shy trout]

dang orz
Well at least I know not to use old videos

[vernal crest]

Have you looked at the tutorials on the modding wiki?

[shy trout]

I have I just get confused really easily by text only tutorials

[vernal crest]

If the text being too bunched up is part of the problem, there are browser extensions to increase character, word, line, and paragraph spacing which can make the text feel less overwhelming.

[karmic gust]

I didn't know that was a thing!! That sounds super helpful

[vernal crest]

It is, yeah. I mostly just zoom in to text on websites because everything is always too tiny for me but some stuff is way too cramped so I use Text Spacing Editor to adjust things like word and line spacing too.

[shy trout]

Ohhh I'll try that! Thank you!

[silk swan]

Stardew uses 1 thread/core right?

[tiny zealot]

yes, but mods have access to the threading api and can do background work (with care and exemptions)

[silk swan]

I was going to ask if a mod could make the game use multiple or if that'd take a game code rewrite.

Thanks for the reply

[tiny zealot]

you would need to rewrite the game engine, yes (MonoGame)

[silk swan]

Yea I figured.

[tiny zealot]

the content pipeline is aggressively single-threaded and requires that all of its work be done on the main thread

[gentle rose]

oh you just reminded me, I'm going to attempt some GC crimes

[lucid iron]

In some narrow situations you may thread

Usually when you do not touch draw and no content

For example world navigator does all the graph calcs in thread bc that's all custom data structures

[gentle rose]

never mind stack overflow just said I'm being stupid :( /lh

[iron ridge]

is that the error or the website here

doing memory crimes it could be either tbh

[gentle rose]

website

[tiny zealot]

i wish to know what crimes you wanted to attempt

[gentle rose]

the manually calling GC kind

[lucid iron]

Oh i mean u can do that

No More Lag 2

I once left a manual gc call i had for testing in release build for like 4 major versions

[tiny zealot]

iro you should try calling the gc every frame that the map menu is open /j

maybe multiple times. really optimize the hell out of it

[gentle rose]

what makes you think that's not what I'm planning

[autumn tide]

alright, tried to use the custom map action things i added and console kept yelling, here's my log: https://smapi.io/log/7f823d2f8eea4e9faf25882d93af8895
-# (and yes ik i should be testing with less mods but i don't rlly feel like that rn-)

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.5.0, with 83 C# mods and 235 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[gentle rose]

if you don't feel like it rn it might be best to step away and come back when you have more energy for debugging

[autumn tide]

that

dammit not again-

[hard fern]

that

[autumn tide]

that's true... but i never feel like debugging*

THAT

[hard fern]

how are u gonna squash the bugs if you never debug

[autumn tide]

i won't-

[hard fern]

just make the players bugtest! always works XD

[gentle rose]

debugging works best when you're systematic. if you start off in a state like this log you'll spend forever chasing bugs

[tiny zealot]

easy. call them "features" and charge more for it

[autumn tide]

i'm not a big company i can't do that

[hard fern]

you can start now

[autumn tide]

that's true, but i'll never debug with whole willingness to-

like playing SDV?!?! who ever thought of that?

[gentle rose]

let me put it more bluntly nobody will ever be more motivated to debug than you are because it isn't their mod, so if you look at that log and go "ugh", then so will everyone else

so make it easy to help you (and for you to help yourself)!

[autumn tide]

okay ty i need ppl to be blunt with me LOL, i'll probably try again later then

[hard fern]

ugh why do questions have to exist in stardew

[autumn tide]

torture

[odd ginkgo]

for map making, is there a location context that tells the game to spawn beach-critters, like seagulls, rather than a random other bird?

is it just Island and Default?

[next plaza]

/me glances at the Spenny Reality Warper nexus description

[lucid iron]

There's a data asset Data/LocationContext

[tiny zealot]

Beach isn't a vanilla context though. i expect the gulls etc are hardcoded

[lucid iron]

It controls mostly stuff like weather

[tiny zealot]

island, default, and desert are the vanilla ones, no?

[odd ginkgo]

maybe the easiest option is to just not mark it as outdoors

pretend outdoors

[lucid iron]

What is the particular problem u have?

[odd ginkgo]

it's this area

the shadows up top are birds that aren't loaded in right (via Em's critters) but even if they were, it'd be an odd place for a bird to spawn

unless it was a seagull

[lucid iron]

The sea...

Make sure all ur "panorama" tiles are on Back1 or something

Instead of Back

[odd ginkgo]

ahhh

they're all on back

that makes sense

[lucid iron]

That makes them not available for most critter spawns

[odd ginkgo]

that's brilliant

[lucid iron]

(peddling mode) do u want a dynamic panorama

[odd ginkgo]

I've thought about it... but I want as few required mods as possible... I've been thinking of making a whole different back panorama for rain

I'm open haha! I want it to be an ~experience~ to go out on the deck

[lucid iron]

It's actually pretty simple to make the panorama thing optional

Basically you need to divide the tmx into 2

1. The foreground walkable patio
2. The static background

When dynamic panorama is off, do EditMap to put in the static background as normal

When it is on, don't EditMap and let mmap panorama apply

[odd ginkgo]

that's brilliant again

[lucid iron]

Internally the mmap panorama is not on the Map, but a big texture being drawn behind it

[odd ginkgo]

Okay, even to have the option would be cool

[lucid iron]

Just like how summit tmx is all transparent

[odd ginkgo]

that's right! I opened up that map to see how it was done... that

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/36778

[odd ginkgo]

Thank you! I'm so inspired

[lucid iron]

I would link me own docs but sharogg's examples r better tbh

[odd ginkgo]

how incredible would it be... walk out on the deck... sunset on the ocean... oh nooo I love it

[lucid iron]

I am getting better at peddling

[hard fern]

mods are evil. events are evil.

ugh

i fucked it up

[autumn tide]

aw :(

[hard fern]

...hm

i didnt know sweet gem berry was an.. animal drop

[ornate drift]

how the hell does Elliott make this sprite size work?

Does he have a special sprite size here unlike the other characters?

[hard fern]

hardcoding magic

[ornate drift]

also why are his legs missing here

[hard fern]

piano

[tiny zealot]

probably to make it look like they're behind the piano bench

[ornate drift]

ohhh

ok ok got it

thanks

[autumn tide]

hmm most intriguing

[brittle pasture]

sweet gem berries and truffles have the same category of "mystery items that is sellable to pierre's", that's probably why CJB cheats group them?

[gray bear]

CJB categories are not canon

[hard fern]

fascinating

[brittle pasture]

I'm talking game category (-17), but yeah cjb cheats put berries there because they use broad categories and probably thought that -17 is just truffles

[gray bear]

oh yeah it just uses category, prolly

[hard fern]

i hate advanced move so much

[gray bear]

advanced move?

[brittle pasture]

event thing

[gray bear]

events b cursed

[urban patrol]

what issue are you having with it? you can try adding a pause to the end as part of it

[hard fern]

ah just the amalgam.

[gray bear]

aaaaaaaaaah

[urban patrol]

a classic

[odd ginkgo]

so wtf this is magic, I'm in love... I do seem to be having some visual clipping on the horizon, which I suspect is because of a setting? or maybe a hidden building tile? going to experiment but it's honestly making me think MMAP etc might have to be required, it's too good (you should see the ocean when the mean is out at night)

the moon I mean!

[lucid iron]

Yeah double check if there's some tile left there

There's a dedicated console command for reloading the background (but it still required patch reload as well)

[odd ginkgo]

what! I've been closing and reloading the game everytime to test settings

learning all the time

[lucid iron]

mmap.reset_bg

So u want to first patch reload <your mod> and then mmap.reset_bg

Leaving and re-entering the location has same effect as mmap.reset_bg

I added this cus i was testing on a big map one time

[odd ginkgo]

thank you, I don't think I would've figured this out without you

[lucid iron]

It's ok i forgor to document clearly

[elfin kindle]

Has anyone else whose made an NPC had people say the NPC doesn't show up in festivals year 2+? I've heard mixed amongst the people bringing up which ones it is so i dunno if it just affects like some year 2 festivals or all

[uncut viper]

did you include year 2 variants of their festival data

theres stuff about if one NPC includes an extra variant that other NPCs dont then the ones that didnt get skipped bc the game favours the latest-year-variant or w/e

so the issue can vary by modlist

[elfin kindle]

I didn't, only for the ice festival which i know looks very different year 2. And thaaat makes sense, its usually if they have other mods when i've heard the issue. I get it sporadically

[uncut viper]

well you should really add year2 at least since im pretty sure vanilla does that

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Festivals
see the "Important note for 1.6" in this part

[elfin kindle]

Yeah I'm in the works now, i was just curious if others had had the issue so i could understand it better! Which i do now :)

Right people move around during year 2 now, i gotta find pics of year 2 now or go into the game and do a year 2 run of just checking festivals or check tiled. BAH well gotta do what you gotta do

[lucid iron]

Bonus gotcha sve has y3 spirit eve

Did u see pillow festival tool

[obtuse wigeon]

Does Pillow's festival planner have year 2?

Best me to it

[elfin kindle]

GAH

[elfin kindle]

No?

[uncut viper]

ichor knows most about this issue

[lucid iron]

https://festivals.pillow.rocks

[elfin kindle]

Ichor im eagerly waiting your reply

[lucid iron]

It's good cus lotta mod npc

[tiny zealot]

haha. ha. yes. my NPC is the one who discovered the problem, by being the first one to use the year 2 festival keys and causing every other modded NPC to stop spawning

[elfin kindle]

HAHAHAHA

That's so funny dude

[lucid iron]

Should get ur npc added too

[tiny zealot]

at the time i was pretty distressed, but yes it is funny now

[elfin kindle]

It's an easy enough fix really ;P I was just confused as to why i didn't get it more consistently aaand sometimes complaining a little here gets me some good new tools and solution

[lucid iron]

Lacey: no one came to my egg festival/flower dance/luau/....

[elfin kindle]

Tragic

But also thank you so much for the tool, this will make my life so much easier duuuude

The nice thing about being later in the modding scene is that there's so niche tools already made

[odd ginkgo]

incredible

[lucid iron]

Yes pls thank @iron ridge (and contribute ur npc data)

[elfin kindle]

I'm having fun just looking at all the different NPCs rn honestly

[iron ridge]

good luck on adding it but please do

[elfin kindle]

I'll look into how it's done and add in what i have ^^ I wasn't sure how it worked but it sounds like something you can add in yourself?

[iron ridge]

it is

[elfin kindle]

nice!

[odd ginkgo]

@lucid iron your peddling upgraded my boat map by 3000000% ty ty ty ty ty

[grand lantern]

quick question. im making an animal mod.

so im going down the list of the stuff off the wiki of what i need to do to add this animal, and im here

      "RequiredBuilding": "Big Coop",
      "UnlockCondition": 

do i "need" an unlock condition if the condition would be having a big coop? i would assume not since i already told it that it requires a big coop and the unlock condition would be if like i wanted the farmer to ask have like 4 hearts with marnie instead of having the big coop?

and can i have an unlock condition as well in that regard, say Marnie needs 3 hearts, as well as required to have a big coop?

[brittle pasture]

yeah you got it

[grand lantern]

thank you!

[onyx mantle]

Hallo ^^ I was here the other day trying to make a Content Patcher to replace the sprites for Penny and Elliott. I thought I got it working, but then they aren't in the game when I run smapi. I don't quite understand what I did wrong, but the json validator said there weren't errors

[urban patrol]

can you please share the link to your json with us so we can see it?

!log your log may help as well

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[onyx mantle]

https://smapi.io/log/6a1ea55b5c4f41e1b4af64dea9631892 Yeah ^^ sorry I thought I did

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 58 C# mods and 75 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[onyx mantle]

the mod in specific I tried to make is Belas Custom Sprites and the sprites weren't replaced

[urban patrol]

you can see in your log that you have these errors; check that your file path is correct for these patches

[onyx mantle]

where do I find the path and how do I path it?

Do you have the link to the author guide

[urban patrol]

FromFile asks for the path to the asset you're trying to specify, relative to your mod folder

which author guide, the wiki? CP docs?

[onyx mantle]

I don't know, I was given one yesterday and I am having trouble finding it. But it gave an example of what to write to make the json file to replace a portrait for abigail. I was told to change 'portrait' to 'character' but beyond that I don't know how to path properly

`{
"Format": "2.8.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Penny",
"FromFile": "assets/penny.png"
},
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Penny_Winter",
"FromFile": "assets/Penny_winter.png"
},
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Penny_Beach",
"FromFile": "assets/Penny_Beach.png"
},
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Elliott",
"FromFile": "assets/Elliott.png"
},
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Elliott_Winter",
"FromFile": "assets/Elliott_Winter.png"
},
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Elliott_Beach",
"FromFile": "assets/Elliott_Beach.png"
}

]
}` This is what I have

[mellow laurel]

this is the path you have in your folders though, put all the pngs in assets instead

[onyx mantle]

How do I write that in the document? "Action": "Load", "Target": "Characters/Penny", "FromFile": "assets/Characters/Penny.png" like this?

[mellow laurel]

yep, that also works

[onyx mantle]

Oh okay, thanks ^^;

[tender agate]

what's the method(s) NPCs use to find optimal pathing?

[urban patrol]

how specific an explanation do you want? i know the general overview but nothing more than that

[lucid iron]

It's like A* i think

[urban patrol]

oh good an expert is here

[lucid iron]

There's 2 path finders the macro map to map one and the micro tile in map one

Spacecore bonks the first one for a bfs

[tender agate]

I just want to know where is it so I can make them stop zigzaging, its bothered me for some time

I'm guessing I only need the micro one

[lucid iron]

Yeah u have to poke at pathfindcontroller

I think there r weights u can put to make em prefer road

But zigzag is shortest path in diag cases

[uncut viper]

(getPreferenceValueForTerrainType())

[brittle pasture]

if I had a nickel for someone who mentioned npcs zigzagging in this channel I'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird it's happened twice within 24 hours

[tender agate]

no, yesterday's convo after you posted that vid just stuck with me

[calm nebula]

(Fwiw, the last time I did a pathfinder, I dealt with zig zag just by pushing their current direction first)

And going clockwise

[tender agate]

yeah I was just thinking about adding a 0.0000001 weight when making turns or something

nobody really messing around with pathfind right? so I can just override instead of harmony patching

[calm nebula]

There is terrain preference yeah; I'm not quite sure what it does; it's pretty minor iirc

Spacecore entirely replaces the macro finder but doesn't touch the micro one iirc

[uncut viper]

the terrain preference affects the priority that the tile in question gets when placed in the PriorityQueue used for checking tiles

[tender agate]

what other properties are there, is there a list somewhere?

[uncut viper]

those are the only ones the game cares about but theres nothing stopping someone from writing whatever type they wanted on their map

[lucid iron]

Yeah u can just add somebodyunknown_pathing

Then u have to have fun time of adding it to every map

[tender agate]

I would rather not tbh

[lucid mulch]

Harmony patch Game location.doesTileHaveProperty to inject it

[calm nebula]

Can't you just patch the preference function

[tender agate]

could be fun if we can somehow create desire paths. but that might take too much memorizing of pathing

[calm nebula]

I'm (*) a little because I really do remember that as a little squirrelly but I forgot details

[uncut viper]

its not the sole determinator of path priority

but the other determinators just seem to be preferring whatever is closest to the end which makes sense

int priority = neighbor.g + PathFindController.getPreferenceValueForTerrainType(location, neighbor.x, neighbor.y) + (Math.Abs(endPoint.X - neighbor.x) + Math.Abs(endPoint.Y - neighbor.y) + (((neighbor.x == currentNode.x && neighbor.x == previousNode.x) || (neighbor.y == currentNode.y && neighbor.y == previousNode.y)) ? (-2) : 0));

whatever this is

i dont know what g is on a path node

[calm nebula]

Total path length so far iirc

[tender agate]

g seems to be a A* algo thing
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/dsa/a-search-algorithm/
doing a refresher to not break it

[patent lance]

@autumn tide: check this and then choose whether or not to make the thread (24h ago)

[calm nebula]

Oh, that was the other thing. They have their own priorityqueue impl and I forget if it keeps insertion order

[autumn tide]

Yayyy

making-mods-yapping

[modest dagger]

Can I have two different local tokens for the same json?

[uncut viper]

you can put as many local tokens as you want in a patch

[modest dagger]

then i have no idea what i need to fix

https://smapi.io/json/none/f7cb5743b2644536a72ef3644911ff96 I'm tryna add in a token for quality so i can simplify my code some more and when i add in the tokens for quality the tokens for animals stops working (as well as the quality one not working)

[grand lantern]

when adding a context tag for an item (an egg in this case) if it has 2 colors can/should i add both? its a blue and green egg with yellow spots. i was thinking i should add green and blue?

[calm nebula]

You can

The first tag it finds will be used as the dye color

Both will be used for, say, machines or that one quest of qi's

You don't have to ofc

[grand lantern]

okay cool, thank you!

[cyan marsh]

Some asked me today if they can install my music mod without installing it

[ornate locust]

what

[elfin kindle]

Player mindsets baffle me sometimes

[ornate locust]

i don't-

actual "Can I have my cake and eat it too?"

[ornate locust]

I guess they want to overwrite the files or something?

[brittle pasture]

can you post what's in the machine file

[cyan marsh]

I technically know how to do this

but it's janky

[ornate locust]

definitely not recommended

[cyan marsh]

I explained it poorly

for some reason it doesn't work on Android.. i believe that's a version issue

[brittle pasture]

huh, your mod is just CP right

[lucid iron]

Android does have a different soundbank impl

[cyan marsh]

yeah

[lucid iron]

But it's out of your hands tbh tell them to go bother the android smapi person

[cyan marsh]

I know.. there's nothing i can do about it

was just funny

I'm glad they like the music lol

(pinned comments has all the music there)

[elfin kindle]

In certain situations, all you can say is like "Well I can't help you there, bud"

[odd ginkgo]

that's how I generally feel about android

[stray hemlock]

Is it possible to play SV on Linux on ARM64? Because then you could replace Android.

[calm nebula]

Possible? Maybe. Has anyone done it? As far as I know no

The holdup is that some of stardew's dependencies are x86 only

[stray hemlock]

Makes sense.

Idea for 1.7: port the entire codebase to ARM.

[uncut viper]

also no one wants to replace their phones OS just to mod stardew

certainly not your average nexusmods user

[stray hemlock]

... now I feel invalid /j

[calm nebula]

Otoh if Samsung pisses me off again.....

[uncut viper]

programmers arent people

[calm nebula]

Jk I only own stardew mobile via Google play

[stray hemlock]

That hit hard

[uncut viper]

im not sure if you can even legitimately purchase mobile stardew without going thru one of the app stores?

[stray hemlock]

You can purchase it, decompile it and compile it for mobile, right?

[calm nebula]

Samsung app store might have it

But in your mind we would be running PC stardew on a Ubunut phone

Which 2 people own

[uncut viper]

i think that first step of purchasing it through them disqualifies the whole thing as "not purchasing it through them"

[stray hemlock]

I meant purchasing on PC.

[uncut viper]

oh. then, no

the codebases are not identical

anything that touches a menu especially is wildly different

but also some other behind the scenes stuff

like the aforementioned audio implementation

[stray hemlock]

Please, I would run it on an Arch phone.

[calm nebula]

I think people have the compat version running on arch at least

Anyways

I've sold my soul to Google already

Open me up and find QR codes and share.google links

[obtuse wigeon]

i know it was on humble bundle which mightve had an android version also for download? if it was it would be very very old, like 1.2 version

[calm nebula]

Google will know what I'm having for dinner tonight before I do

[uncut viper]

the version on humble bundle is PC only and is just a steam key

[obtuse wigeon]

i asked good what youre having for dinner and it replied "the answer is 3".... i dont think it understood the question

ahhh steam key gotcha

[brittle pasture]

anyone member https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edge

[uncut viper]

i think if it were that easy to get the mobile version on PC for decomp then android compat would be a lot more available for mods

and also would have saved me $5

(not that its hard to get the mobile version via the usual means either for decomp purposes, but its more difficult than just a 5 second steam download)

[obtuse wigeon]

I have been looking into phones that support pc linux distros but it like just doesnt exst

[brittle pasture]

my approach to android compat is "if there's a will there's a way"
as in, if the user's will is strong enough they can make it work
I on the other hand have no will

[uncut viper]

personally im completely fine using a big name non-linux phone if for no other reason than i dont want my kernel to crash for some dumb reason when im trying to dial 911

[brittle pasture]

pinephone?

[calm nebula]

Rust rust rust

[obtuse wigeon]

i dont remember the last time i used calls or texts...

[uncut viper]

that reminds me what was the mod of yours we were talking about the other day that doesnt work on android

that mightve been literally yesterday but idr

[calm nebula]

Google if you're reading this i wouldn't mind a job offer....if you paid me more than what I make now

[brittle pasture]

Cloths and Colors (unconfirmed)

[uncut viper]

right right. thank you

[brittle pasture]

also Extra Animal Config (definitely confirmed)

[calm nebula]

I do! Ask me how many 2fa texts does it take to transfer money between two bank accounts

[uncut viper]

not touching that one

[calm nebula]

At the same bank

[stray hemlock]

Don't they nowadays don't use texts because they are insecure? All banks in my country have banned texts.

I think.

[obtuse wigeon]

i dread to think, i both love and hate 2fa

[brittle pasture]

(all my other mods either work, has an android version, or no one cared enough to play them on android yet)

[lucid iron]

I think cssm is my only definitely broken on android mod rn

Some other mods prob have ui jank going on, wouldn't know

[uncut viper]

can you remind me what cssm is

[brittle pasture]

not counting "borked cuz stardewui" i assume

[uncut viper]

chu's super special monsters?

[brittle pasture]

Chainsawsaw Man

[stray hemlock]

Cascading Style Sheet Mess

[uncut viper]

we've lost contact with chu

[obtuse wigeon]

my life rn ngl XD

[tender agate]

why did you say CSS twice

[lucid iron]

claire story of seasons magics

[lucid mulch]

after I did 1.1 speedy solutions broke android compat and its not my problem

[lucid iron]

(it's compat searchable shop menu)

[stray hemlock]

I recommend SCSS, that saved my life multiple times.

[lucid iron]

Stardewui got fixed

By some kinda rewriter change

[obtuse wigeon]

i shall look into it ty, i do wish there was a coding style stylesheet but oh well

[lucid iron]

The bits that no work is like, right click

Which aint my problem idc

[uncut viper]

just tell mobile users to plug in a mouse? whats the big deal

[lucid iron]

Oh yeah es barbershop is broken too

I knew that would happen so i made it a separate dll

[stray hemlock]

It kinda works like that. It has better variables and all that.

[modest dagger]

https://smapi.io/json/none/b952325673fe4112b000752496c2fee3 yea sorry was out here ye go, relevant section (with the new token) is at 600

[brittle pasture]

so your machines file have Q, Animal and ReqCount but your patches are only providing two of those at a time

(I shouldnt have needed your machines file for it but I wanted to double check)

[modest dagger]

so uh, how do i fix it

[brittle pasture]

provide all 3?

if you have a token use em

[modest dagger]

so wait would i be able to compress it all down into just { "Action": "Include", "FromFile": "assets/Data/Machines.json", "LocalTokens": { "Animal": "Cow, Sheep, Pig, Chicken, Rabbit, Duck, Goat, Ostrich, Dino", "ReqCount": "1", "Q": "MB, MA, MP, MF" } } then?

[brittle pasture]

no

gotta be one at a time sadly

you can define all four Q variants directly in your machines file

[modest dagger]

yea i'll just keep it how it was then

[gaunt orbit]

I am #1 css defender. If you struggle with it, it's because you're using it without having actually learned it

(or you're trying to use some proprietary chrome bullshit on other browsers)

[stray hemlock]

I don't struggle with it, it's just often annoying to use because it isn't always possible to avoid writing the same style twice. Though nesting kinda improved on that. But only kinda.

[gaunt orbit]

I usually solve that problem with variables, class composition, combining selectors, or cascading.

Media queries can fuck with things sometimes but usually it's not too terrible

[stray hemlock]

It's not always possible. It's been a while since I've been working with it though, so I can't really tell you what made me use preprocessors.

[gaunt orbit]

The only thing I've used preprocessors for is color manipulation

calc is great but it can only do unit math

[hard fern]

is it possible to make a character divorce you

[brittle pasture]

BETAS ChangeRelationship trigger

[hard fern]

ty

betas might become my best friend

[tiny zealot]

hey friends,
we all know the wiki recommends against using Harmony annotations, but i am considering using them and need some advice.
can someone give me a more detailed explanation of this sentence?

However annotations work differently in the compiled code, so SMAPI can't rewrite them.
what sort of secret sauce is this referring to, and is it any different than some of my current setups which do some minor crimes to map well-structured method names to desired target methods?

[uncut viper]

possibly something to do with the fact that if you use annotations to patch then Harmony will scan your assembly and create PatchClassProcessor things to handle the patching and SMAPI thus cant replace any code for you in a rewriter first. or something.

afaik patching without annotations does not go through the same PatchClassProcessor process

[tiny zealot]

so it sounds like i should extend the thing i currently have so i can do declarative patching without technically running afoul of whatever harmony is doing inside /lh

[uncut viper]

i have no idea what anything means

[tiny zealot]

thanks

i suppose the rewriter problem could be that when you call PatchAll, harmony runs a big pile of code to find and patch the methods, but smapi isn't rewriting harmony, so any of the references it has to stardew methods that have changed don't get replaced

and presumably the annotations themselves also aren't rewritable

[uncut viper]

probably could if smapi rewrote annotations but idk if cecil even allows it

i feel like it allows it but im just guessing based on not much tbh

based on very very brief glances at cecil stuff in the past

[brittle pasture]

the backwoods are no longer federal lands
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/40185

[ornate locust]

It's free!

be free, Backwoods

[full berry]

Hi! Could someone here help me with something?
I have a portrait mod, but currently it's a replacer, and I want to transform it into CP.
However, in the original mod I want to replace, the portraits are identified like this:
"Portrait": "{{InternalAssetKey: Assets/Portraits/spring.png}}",
Is it possible for me to make this mod or not because of the InternalAssetKey?

[uncut viper]

it is not possible by editing their images, no

internal assets like that are not able to be edited via the content pipeline and cannot be touched with CP edits

but you can replace whatever its replacing with your own

[brittle pasture]

what you can do is load your own asset and change what the Portrait field points to instead

[uncut viper]

it may be a lot more work if they use it in a ton of places though

(not difficult work to be clear just a lot more than a single editimage)

[full berry]

I don't think I'm that good at making mods.
The portraits are doomed to be forever a replacer

[latent mauve]

Don't give up before trying!

[uncut viper]

this channel can also provide a lot of help if you need it

[full berry]

Does anyone have an example of how to do this?

Like, is there some kind of mod that does this so I can read the code and see if I understand how it works?

[latent mauve]

Well, first of all, you're replacing another mod-- is it your mod, or do you have permission to publish it if it's not, or is this a personal edit?

and are you planning to use the same portraits or new ones?

[full berry]

It's someone else's NPC, and I have their permission to make the portraits.
I wanted to post it as my own mod instead of asking anyone who wants to use my portraits to replace the original drawings.

[latent mauve]

Okay, so you're making your own Portrait mod for the other mod's NPC.

[full berry]

I drew all the portraits that the original mod has, which are all the seasons, if that helps.

[full berry]

Yes

[latent mauve]

So, you will need to:

• Make your mod load after the NPC mod
• If the NPC mod uses InternalAssetKey, use Load actions to pull your own images to the same Targets.

[uncut viper]

if the field with the internal key is called "Portrait" though its likely in Appearances, where you'd need to TargetField into them to edit them since there is no target to load to

[latent mauve]

Where is that "Portrait": "..." code located in the NPC mod?

What is the code block it's part of?

[uncut viper]

i cant actually think of a different place it would even be applicable to use InternalAssetKey since its not like you can use it to set the base portraits themselves

[latent mauve]

True, the InternalAssetKey tends to be used anywhere the game expects a Texture entry

since those have to be loaded as game assets otherwise

[full berry]

on the content.json, the mod code snippet looks like this:
"Breather": true,
"KissSpriteIndex": 30,
"KissSpriteFacingRight": false,
"Appearance": [
{
"ID": "Spring",
"Season": "Spring",
"Portrait": "{{InternalAssetKey: Assets/Portraits/spring.png}}",
"Sprite": "{{InternalAssetKey: Assets/Characters/spring.png}}",
"Precedence": 0,
"Weight": 1
},

[latent mauve]

okay, so that is part of the Appearance system.

in the Data/Characters entry

[devout otter]

If you want, you can check the Nyapu Nora portrait mod by AhCuteArt if you want an example of how to do Content Patch for this kind of patch.

[latent mauve]

Specifically they'll need an example of how to drill down into the Appearances using TargetField, in addition to a standard Load patch

[devout otter]

Yeah, Nyapu Nora does that.

[latent mauve]

Ah, nice

[full berry]

Oh, thank you! I'll take a look at that one, and if I have any questions, I'll come back here!

[devout otter]

Oh wait, are you the author of the Nyapu farmer portraits? Which mod are you doing now?

[full berry]

Yep! I posted Mirren's today and wanted to turn what I've already done of Faust into CP

[full berry]

IT WORKS!

Thank you so much to everyone for helping me!

[lone halo]

Hello Stardew friends! I’ve been recolouring a few items of mods to match other mods I have and would love to share them but I have absolutely no experience or knowledge of creating code to make it official. Are we allowed to upload replacement pngs only to Nexus? Or does it have to be an official mod? Thank you sm! 🫶🏻

[gentle rose]

you are allowed (if the permissions of the original mods allow it!) but it really isn’t as hard to learn to do the other part as you’d think! and we can help you through it

[heavy pewter]

Guys, I'm trying to prevent the pass out logic and animation from happening(I want to make a Totem of Undying), but for some reason the player still passes out, what am I doing wrong here? Is it the method I'm patching?

Theres 3 pass out related methods:
performPassOut()
passOutFromTired(Farmer who),
startToPassOut()

[royal stump]

as far as I know, those methods are only involved in running out of stamina or staying up until 2am
running out of health seems to happen in Farmer.takeDamage and Farmer.Update, around the health <= 0 parts

if you are aiming for the stamina thing, you'll need to patch one or more of the other parts, since performPassOut doesn't control most of what happens
(and account for the fact that it's used at 2am too)

[heavy pewter]

Thanks!

[urban patrol]

is anyone familiar with spacecore's spawnables? i have spawn groups defined, but i'm not sure if i need to also have spawnable definitions. the trigger action to spawn seems to only need a spawn group

Spawnables consist of spawnable definitions (the spawns themselves) and spawning groups (a group of spawn definitions that are spawned together, specified with a trigger action).

this "and" is ambiguous to me lol

[gentle rose]

only one way to find out

[urban patrol]

fair enough lol

time to go explode things

[brittle pasture]

yeah you need both

a trigger action triggers a spawn group, each of which has one or more spawnables

[urban patrol]

okay so for every item listed in all of my spawn groups, i have to specify it in the spawnable definitions

oh wait i see i set it up wrong now

the spawning group takes the spawn definition IDs, not the qualified item IDs themselves

[lone halo]

I didn’t even consider that! I should definitely check permissions before moving forward! I need to study the modding wiki as well! But should I need further help I’ll be sure to ask! Thank you for responding! 😊

[heavy pewter]

I did escaped death lmao. Thanks again for the tip Esca

[urban patrol]

i got spawns to work! needs to be balanced though lmao despite weighing a pearl at 0.01 and an artifact trove at 0.05 i got both on spring 1 lol

oh i set all the minimums to 1. that would do it lol

[brittle pasture]

the weighs control which entry in the same spawn group is more likely to be picked if there are multiple

if you want the spawn to only have a chance of occurring you need to condition the trigger action itself

[urban patrol]

i see i see

do you know what the vanilla spawn chance is? i'm looking at using "RANDOM 0.4 @addDailyLuck",

[brittle pasture]

you can open the Data/Locations file to check

[urban patrol]

or if spacecore respects MaxSpawnedForageAtOnce i could set that

ah okay it's per location

[brittle pasture]

I don't believe it does

FTM/SC spawns are independent from the vanilla system

[urban patrol]

makes sense

[brittle pasture]

what I do is calculate how many of an item I want to spawn per week, so .4 means .4*7=2.8 per week on average

(luck's effect notwithstanding)

[urban patrol]

oh good idea

[brittle pasture]

I should increase the silkworm spawn chance of my mod, I've been playing this save for 3 in game weeks and I haven't seen one

(it's .15 currently lmao)

[urban patrol]

lol i might increase mine then, i want pearl/artifact trove to be really rare but not downright impossible lol

[brittle pasture]

something to also keep in mind is forage is reset sundays, and this includes SC spawns (but SC does have a setting to exclude them from the weekly reset)

[urban patrol]

yeah i have it set to clear out on saturdays!

does sc HAVE to do 10 checks? i set it to RANDOM 0.8 for 5.6 per week, but i'm getting pretty much 10 per day

[brittle pasture]

post what you have?

[urban patrol]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c6c93766de8143608adbf8fcb6904400

(i've only tested spring so far)

[brittle pasture]

each of your spawn group has 10+ spawn entries, with each entry having 1 item

and every entry gets triggered

I think you want 1 spawn entry with 10 items?

(ie multiple items in SpawnableIds)

[urban patrol]

that makes so much sense! i had been wondering about that, if i wanted to compress it into one list instead of multiple

i can probably then also remove the RANDOM condition, because it'll give me one per day, if i only have one entry?

then minimum/maximum will refer to the number of forageable items that appear each day i suppose, not of each item

[brittle pasture]

yeah believe so

I will slep now but your code should be good

[urban patrol]

good night sleep well! thank you for the help

yep it appears much better! no more infinite pearls lol

[hard fern]

Hmmm can crts be eternal (or just have a very long duration)

[vernal crest]

CRTs are already dead . CTs can have very long durations, yes

[hard fern]

Ty ^^

and maybe crts can be revived with true love's kiss XD

[gray bear]

the fact some item id's are just numbers but some of them are "broccoli" will continue to throw me off till the end of time

[viscid carbon]

Seems to be the general thing for items added in 1.6

[fervent comet]

Hi, guys. I cannot figure out how to add Furniture objects for Events. Is there any specific command I need to use cuz Furniture IDs are somehow different from regular Objects or BigCraftables.
For example, I wanna add Bountiful Table with ID [(F)BountifulDiningTable] that I got here:
https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/#en-US

[final arch]

not sure thats currently possible 🤔

[vernal crest]

I don't see an addFurniture event command

You could add it as a TemporaryAnimatedSprite

[fervent comet]

Oh! I didn't see such an option. I'll try, big thx!

[lucid iron]

@mild furnace https://github.com/Bouhm/stardew-valley-mods/blob/main/NPCMapLocations/ModEntry.cs#L921

This stuff is happening on each tick

It'll likely help if it's refactored to be net event based

Track net changes in the characters list in every location, and within that track the position netfield's changes

It will be a pretty large amount of work ngl i have no plan to do anything about it rn

[mild furnace]

it's all good, it'll be a fun C# project to learn

I'm working on a cycle accurate RISC-V emulator rn but I need a break

[lucid iron]

If u get a working poc u should ping pathos

[mild furnace]

I'll branch and PR 🙏 or I'll look into actually merging UIinfo with NPC map loc

I always found it silly how they conflict

[lucid iron]

I thought the deal is that npc map loc works in mp

And uiis2's doesn't

[mild furnace]

oh, wasnt aware, good to know

[lucid iron]

Multiplayer needs special handling because farmhands don't have true view of world

That's why there's stuff to send the real location stuff to farmhands

[mild furnace]

I've never done this in VSCode, I'm so used to VS, but I recently reinstalled windows

and I'm not downloaded VS2026 at 4am lol

[mild furnace]

this is good info, thanks

[gentle rose]

if you're dealing with the map remember to make sure you recalculate your entire logic every frame

trust

[mild furnace]

oh 100%
If I'm improving performance I may as well make performance tank

game don't fail me 🙏

@lucid iron guess the mod

lmao

[mild furnace]

stfu

ok I think I've gotten about 50% of the way there on this, it was a surprisingly easy set of fixes
I'll explain what I did, but I didnt go all out with xnet, just a quick and dirty fix

[lucid mulch]

On my side I just changed npcmaplocation config to do it less frequently and did a custom build of location compass to also reduce its frequency and changed it to a different modulo so it wouldn't always run on the same tick

But if you are improving npcmaplocations netcode, changing location compass to do the same and ideally being able to hook off npcmaplocations logic when available would be nice

[mild furnace]

what I've done is I've made it cache locations, then do a quick comparison to see if location's changed, and only run the math then

I've also made it only check NPCs who are within the range of MinHearts and MaxHearts, updated every day, and I changed it to update only roughly every 20 seconds

it doesnt blip at all on profiler anymore

[lucid mulch]

The minheart/maxheart would impact netcode unless you are checking if all farmers meet that criteria

[mild furnace]

I'll just make that conditional on context.ismultiplayer

should work I assume?

[gentle rose]

@junior tiger congrats on the mod release! just fyi, nexus tends to quarantine .rar files, so you may want to upload it as a zip (that's how most mods are uploaded and is easier to use anyway)

[junior tiger]

Oh, omg thank you for letting me know! The mod was gathering dust, so I just took the plunge and uploaded it. I'll turn it into a zip 😊

[gentle rose]

(once you do, if you want it showcased in #mod-showcase, post the link and a short description and someone with an orange name will be happy to showcase it haha)

[junior tiger]

Thank you so much for the information 😊 I hope to encounter the kind orange people

[gentle rose]

(I am one and we tend to hang out in this channel so feel free to just drop the link haha)

[tiny zealot]

this place is absolutely lousy with orange people. i hear some of them are kind, too /lh

[obtuse wigeon]

(who will showcase it first, it's a race for the showcase!) actually I have no idea how the bot reacts to multiple showcase commadns

[vernal crest]

I'm not. I'm a mean orange person. Grrr

[calm nebula]

I'm not orange 😛

[gentle rose]

says the nicest orange ever

[junior tiger]

Oh just post it right ere?

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/40205

It's just a simple content patch to include some of my favorite OCs into stardew 😊 the mod is still a bit clunky, but it works! And I'm always happy about feedback or questions.

Btw, I also got so much lovely help from the people in this comunity, but it has been months and I am super forgetful. If someone remembers helping me out, feel free to let me know and I'd be happy to mention you on nexus mods if you wanted to 😊

[gentle rose]

(you may also want to archive the old files, hopefully that will get rid of the red x on your mod though I'm not sure)

[junior tiger]

Hmm, red x? Let me check. Barely used the website 😭

[gray bear]

nexus virus scanner has a hate for rar files

[tiny zealot]

(so do i /lh)

[gray bear]

oh also, saw the sve comment, your mod is incompatible as sve edits the entire forest map :)

@outer glacier

SIGH

@obtuse wigeon did u want to see this

[obtuse wigeon]

ty! I grabbed it

[gray bear]

enjoy ur scam images /lh

[tender agate]

posting scams in the most tech literate channel is funny

[obtuse wigeon]

they're very tasty, yum yum

[gray bear]

isnt the most tech literate channel #programmers-off-topic ?

[lucid iron]

Monseiur Mammal's Miraculous Monies

[lucid iron]

.q 6560

[patent lance]

#6560

you fuckin modders are criminals

• @ionic acorn (Jump)

Aug 16, 2025, 9:10 PM

[lucid iron]

:)

[autumn tide]

..probably, but still

[gray bear]

this factoid actualy just statistical error. average modder does 0 crimes. chu georg, who only commits mod crimes, is an outlier adn should not have been counted

[vernal crest]

Oh, I helped you with this! I thought your name was familiar :) Congratulations on release!

[cedar turtle]

Eh whoops. That one slipped because I didn't tap delete messages (stupid phonecord)

[gray bear]

no worries, got burried anyway ;)

[cedar turtle]

Still better it's buried only in our logs lol

[calm nebula]

You forgot casey

Leader of the mod criminals

😛

[gray bear]

are you a mod criminal atra?

[calm nebula]

No. The conditions of my parole are that I no longer crime 👼

[junior tiger]

THank you! I do recognize your PFP. Is there a specific name you want me to credit you as?

[vernal crest]

Don't feel obligated to but if you do feel like it, "Abagaianye" is good :) It's my Nexus username too

[junior tiger]

Very happy to mention people that helped me during my 3am delirious ineptitude 😭

[cinder ether]

Hey folks, is there a new standard way of creating a shared lib in mods, now? I don't want to use a .shproj and would like to be able to rely on something that's more supported by the dotnet cli, instead.

[lucid iron]

Hello i have just the thing for you

[lucid iron]

Someone owns me 2 nickles

[cinder ether]

is it not possible to just use a class lib? Though I do like how succinct this is (I hated the idea of adding all of the files to the projitems, so your solution with a wildcard is kinda nice

[lucid iron]

This one results in 1 dll which is nice for packaging

Some people do make class library mods that are dll that their other mods hard reference, I am aesthetically against doing that because sdv mods r tiny and I want to keep them independent

[tiny zealot]

i am chu's first nickel. i like this approach and am tinkering with it for my own stuff rn

i get to reuse source code and rip them out into a dependency, but users won't have to download a personcore mod and i don't end up with a separate dll inside my mod zip

it's like having a good old-fashioned C static library* and i like that
* sort of

[calm nebula]

Yeah, i didnt realize shared projects were a VS thing

[lucid iron]

I don't really know what the shproj file does

[tiny zealot]

probably just weird magic that VS is set up to look for. i learned you can call your file whatever you want as long as you <Import> it correctly

[lucid iron]

This stuff was me copying little msbuild bits from stardewui's shared project that was definitely setup on VS until it worked

[cinder ether]

wow, that's beautiful, thank you!

worked like a charm

[gentle rose]

I have screamed this at you like ten times

[obtuse wigeon]

paperwork tends not to have ears so I see how it was missed

[merry river]

is there a way to change the farmer sprite during an event? the event is supposed to be set in the spa and the farmer is just in there, stacked in clothes lol

[tiny zealot]

how does penny's 10-heart event handle it?

[heavy pewter]

Thoughts? The proc/pop kinda bland to me tbh

Nvm, I have fast animation that's why it looked bland

[coral vortex]

uhm. hello? May i ask a question here about a mod? to be precise about a mod, i kinda repaired with a friend, but i now want to update, but i am missing coding knowledge and i want to learn how to take care of it? or do i break rules with that question

As Chuve said, i did take care of the Permissions and followed what the original maker wanted in that case

The mod in question is this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/569

My Fix is here: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30635

[lucid iron]

Yeah the original mod has open permissions so you are fine

[coral vortex]

Thank god. i read them first as i tried to fix it, because i did not want to upset anyone especially not the modmaker if they saw it

[lucid iron]

Main recommendation is to open source your fixes too

[coral vortex]

there i have a problem. a friend did it, as i do not have github or anything. i wrote in the description down what he did tho. i was trying to replicate it, but. i never worked with github in my few coding lessons. but i am willing to learn

i just learn easier with a teacher

[lucid iron]

Yeah it's probably better to ask friend about it

Another thing is that it would be better to replace this load https://github.com/Alphablackwolf/SkillPrestige/blob/60b23cd3daeea0145b7a0321720ebdf5099eb10a/SkillPrestige/ModEntry.cs#L306

Instead of distributing the xnb

[coral vortex]

this looks like the main file right? (sorry if am wrong) so you more or less mean to like write it new?

[lucid iron]

No, just this one bit

It's the cause of load errors since this asset was removed

[coral vortex]

The greenbox error? ah i see

[wispy jolt]

are there any experienced custom farm makers that may be interested in making a farm for me?

[lucid iron]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[gentle rose]

do you have a budget in mind?

[wispy jolt]

ty

[wispy jolt]

I've no idea of how much it should cost so not really

will take a look at the commissions page and see

[real agate]

Interesting... I still have a few more personal MODs to revitalize, but maybe I will consider being paid to do someone's MOD. Probably not, but good to know it is an option. I do good work, and my MODs speak for themselves. I don't do Content Patcher stuff though. (Adding to my idea bin)

[lucid iron]

Actually I was curious about why you did C# for the billboard mod

[calm nebula]

(Fwiw, I've personally never done commissions because (a) i dont want to be on the hook for long term maintenance and (b) the hourly rate for mods is a tiny fraction of what I make.)

[obtuse wigeon]

Do be aware that BC you've asked you may get bots messaging you about commission scams, be weary and if in doubt, that wiki page is one of the best locations to find people who are genuine

[lucid iron]

Atra i pay u 3.5 to archive atracore forever thx

[calm nebula]

I should do that huh

[lucid iron]

It's not much of a problem now but ppl used to have not loading atracore in their log frequently

[calm nebula]

It shouldn't affect anything if it isnt loaded

It's not magic

Also those are mostly people who had it downloaded, lol, there is next to no downloads on anything I have anymore (good)

[obtuse wigeon]

Aww no (possibly outdated) atra mods in my mod list

[calm nebula]

Why would you want an atra mod lol

[obtuse wigeon]

Because I wasn't around before your retirement so all your mods are totally new to me

[final arch]

damn the flex 😄

[autumn fog]

i may have forgotten to give my npc a sprite

[autumn tide]

oh you're making an npc?

[tiny zealot]

"feeling cute, might delete later" /lh

[autumn fog]

yea!!

[autumn tide]

oh sweet!

[autumn fog]

i got inspired by recent events in a fandom im in, so i wanna make some of the characters as npcs :3

[autumn tide]

oh nice! good luck :)

[autumn fog]

ty!!

[wispy jolt]

got it, thank you

[latent mauve]

I think I am finally free of the i18n mines until I create more custom NPCs (and thus more dialogue and events for them)

[autumn tide]

[calm nebula]

looks left, looks right

I'm looking to commission someone to foo the baz.

[urban patrol]

foo rates are pretty high right now, can you afford it? :P

[autumn tide]

wait, are the expressions tied to gift responses hardcoded?

[calm nebula]

Yesish

[autumn tide]

oh?

[calm nebula]

Noish

[autumn tide]

ah, of course

[calm nebula]

There are defaults but you can just use, say, $h to override

[autumn tide]

gotchaaaa okay, so if i set custom reactions in the data/dialogue thingy the expressions I chose will show up?

[calm nebula]

They should

[autumn tide]

alr! thanks :)

[urban patrol]

i assume making an NPC a lesbian or gay is more complicated than just setting IsRomanceable: PLAYER_GENDER Current (gender), right? since an NPC romanceability would be global not per-player?

[west thunder]

I need help.

One of my adoring fans has run into an issue with my emote replacer mod.

Could one kindly locate which mod could be clashing with mine?

Their log.
https://smapi.io/log/383ecc068fd6441b9a2f145592fe5764

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 104 C# mods and 176 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[west thunder]

Image they've attached.
https://imgur.com/a/radical-emotes-not-work-2B0J0Wg

And the post.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/39881?tab=bugs

[urban patrol]

what they can do is patch summary on whatever asset emotes are (LooseSprites something?) and see which mods touch it

[west thunder]

This is one of my first few mods. Could you explain what "patch summary" means?

[urban patrol]

in the SMAPI console, type patch summary asset <whatever> for a print out of all the patches that are applied to that asset. i can link CP docs for more info

…never mind i can’t i forgot github doesn’t display on mobile for me anymore. but it’s under troubleshooting

[west thunder]

So, if they were to put in the name of either emote spritesheet file, they'd check every mod that changes it?

[urban patrol]

it would have to be the target, not the filepath but yes

[west thunder]

Or do you have to put in the folder either spritesheet's in it?

[urban patrol]

i’ve never worked with emotes so i don’t know what you did to edit them

[calm nebula]

Use spacecore

[urban patrol]

and i’m on mobile so i can’t check unpacked data

[urban patrol]

spacecore to the rescue once again! yay thanks

[west thunder]

{
"Format": "2.8.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "LooseSprites/EmoteMenu",
"FromFile": "assets/EmoteMenu.png"
},
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "TileSheets/emotes",
"FromFile": "assets/emotes.png"
}

]

}

The entire content file.

[urban patrol]

yeah whichever one you want to check you would do, for example, patch summary asset LooseSprites/EmoteMenu

[west thunder]

Stellar, thank you.

wait

Can I reply to a bug?

[urban patrol]

yes

[west thunder]

Odd. Doesn't let me.

oh i'm high

i got logged out

[urban patrol]

that was gonna be my first question lmao

[valid folio]

Hi, a quick question: Do the fruit tree sprites have to be 80px tall? If they’re 96px, could that cause problems?

I couldn’t find anywhere what the maximum height for the sprites is.

[calm nebula]

You cannot increase the spritesheet size

[brittle pasture]

seems to be Overgrown Flowery Interface

(SMAPI trace logs can list mods that are editing a tilesheet)

(you can search for the tilesheet's name with Trace on)