making-mods-general

[royal stump]

In general, you don't necessarily need Harmony for mechanical changes, but it might be a cleaner solution. Moreso if you want to stop something that's already happening, or to do something complicated that the game already does.

For example, you can use change monitoring techniques to detect things like "the player just stopped swinging a tool". But to see if the player hit a specific object & broke it, it might get a little more complicated (e.g. if the game deletes the object before you can look at it). SMAPI's "object list changed" events might help with that instead, or there might be a simple method to patch with Harmony, etc.

[neat vigil]

Okay thank you 🫡

[neat vigil]

Sorry to ask for help again, but I have my code and I’m struggling
I can’t get it to work and I don’t understand why…
My goal is to make an emerald, topaz, etc. spawn every time I break a stone or something similar with the pickaxe.

I don’t know where I can show you my code

[brittle pasture]

people have used pastebin in the past

[neat vigil]

pastebin ?

[brittle pasture]

pastebin.com

[neat vigil]

https://pastebin.com/zkstd3Me

[lucid iron]

Before we get into all that did you try making the button press mod work

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[neat vigil]

me ?

I don't understand sorry

[lucid iron]

Yes u

If you look at the getting started with C# modding part

It has an example button press mod

[neat vigil]

I did it yes

wait

[lucid iron]

Did you get all that working

[neat vigil]

Maybe I am a dumbass but I don’t understand what you want 😭
English is not my mother tongue

I don’t need to add a button in my mod

[lucid iron]

I'm just trying to make sure that you have at least setup a C# project that can compile

[neat vigil]

Yes ?

Everything works

[lucid iron]

The fact that it's a mod which logs button press is incidental

[neat vigil]

I already have some codes that works

[lucid iron]

For this style of harmony you definitely called PatchAll in your Entry method right?

[neat vigil]

Yes

[brittle pasture]

can you elaborate as to how is it not working

[neat vigil]

Do you want to see my entire code ?

[uncut viper]

what are you expecting the code to do and which part is it not doing?

[neat vigil]

Okay okay

[uncut viper]

(it probably would be easier if all the code was visible)

[neat vigil]

I am doing it now and then I will explain what I am expecting from my code

https://pastebin.com/M3uBNh5k

The main issue is that nothing happens in game when I break stones….

I know the project is messy and kind of cursed…

[blissful panther]

Based on that, yeah, nothing should be happening in game.

[neat vigil]

??? What do you mean

[blissful panther]

Ah, sorry, I was looking at the wrong part!

[brittle pasture]

I took a brief glance at the decompile and I believe your issue is that GameLocation.removeObject is not called for pickaxed stones

have you considered the SMAPI object changed event

[calm nebula]

I will say that unless you really need your own random instance, I would just use Random.Shared

[neat vigil]

I don’t understand what SMAPI’s ObjectChange and RandomShared are…

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Events#World

ObjectListChanged

[neat vigil]

another Doc 😔

Thank you

I will try again

[calm nebula]

Random.Shared Property (System) | Microsoft Learn https://share.google/u0ehnAcToQrTTJhZM

[neat vigil]

It works thank youuuu

[karmic gust]

I'm back with more schedule problems. They are the bane of my existence

This is Penny's new schedule: https://smapi.io/json/none/1c927c4b1ed54934a232454cfe829126

But she keeps walking off screen into the void at 900 and doesn't show up where she's supposed to. I changed Elliott's house but I double checked the tiles and warps and she's walking through the building layer

No log errors, though

Oh, and other NPCs are able to leave the map and show up for their schedules like normal

Ugh, another typo got me. Her 700 schedule point was set to 22 16 0 rather than 2 16 0 which led her off the map

[latent mauve]

And this is after you slept in game, yes?

[karmic gust]

Yeah I had slept, but I changed the points and it fixed

[exotic token]

i understand how to edit maps, but how do i make a new one to add?

[brittle pasture]

load the map tmx
add new entry to data/locations
(optional) edit existing maps to add warps to it

[exotic token]

if an npc cant get to the map but its in the schedule, do they just warp

[lucid iron]

No they give up

[exotic token]

oh

poor npc

[lucid iron]

You need to put NPCWarp if needed

(only if normal warp won't do)

[hard fern]

https://tenor.com/view/ants-bindle-hobo-stick-sad-ant-gif-6604577456488723514

[exotic token]

im new to stuff so i just want to make sure theres a way they get there if the regular warp doesnt work

[hard fern]

well even if you put an npc warp, if that said warp is inaccessible they can't get to it no matter what

[odd ginkgo]

apparently I don't understand event question forks at all

does anyone have a really good template or wiki that they use for that?

I've looked a lot at the Eventing page by Lemurkat but I keep re-reading the fork section and am not getting ti

[urban patrol]

what are you trying to do with your forks? usually it's easier to use quickQuestion and/or switchEvent

[odd ginkgo]

I'm asking riddles, where the player has to answer the right question to get a reward

and the clear some rocks away from the exit warp

I guess my issue is wanting there to be several responses where more than one goes to "boohoo wrong answer" and I don't understand where to put fork0 fork1 fork2 etc to designate what the right answer is in code

especially if the forked answer isn't titled "fork1" but "wronganswer1"?

[urban patrol]

i see! and do you want the question to repeat if they select the wrong answer?

[odd ginkgo]

I would love that!

[urban patrol]

okay let me see if there's already a tutorial, or if not i can whip something up

[odd ginkgo]

that would be amazing, no pressure of course

[urban patrol]

  "LogName": "ALWAYS PUT YOUR LOGNAMES, ALWAYS.",
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "data/events/Farm",
  "Entries": {
    "{{ModId}}_Heart0/": "continue/64 15/farmer 64 15 2/pause 300/switchEvent {{ModId}}_Looping",

    "{{ModId}}_Looping": "pause 300/quickQuestion {{i18n:3QKEY}}(break)switchEvent {{ModId}}_Answer1(break)switchEvent {{ModId}}_Answer2(break)switchEvent {{ModId}}_Answer3",

    "{{ModId}}_Answer1": "pause 300/message \"{{i18n:Speak}}\"/pause 300/switchEvent {{ModId}}_Looping",

    "{{ModId}}_Answer2": "pause 300/message \"{{i18n:Hear}}\"/pause 300/switchEvent {{ModId}}_Looping",

    "{{ModId}}_Answer3": "pause 300/end",
  } //close your entries
} //close your editdata```
yesss i knew there was one https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Final_Boss_of_Events#switchEvents_and_You!

[ornate trellis]

quick question, if i want to do a special order with a donation box...is there a max amount of items that can be dropped in it? I have 20 diff items that need to be donated...

[odd ginkgo]

"final boss for events" lol that's perfect, thank you so much

[gray bear]

i think most of the special orders hold 9 slots in the donation box? dunno if that's hardcoded or not

[ornate trellis]

damn

how am i supposed to do that....if i split it up that would be three special orders..

[gray bear]

here wiki page: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Special_orders

i'll take a look at it

doesn't mention

does this mean that's C# land

[ornate trellis]

idk but thats why im confused too, on the modding wiki i dont see it mentioned either in the tutorial

theres a required count but thats probs for the object itself, not the total amount

[gray bear]

yeah dropboxes might be hardcoded

can just make it you need to give the items to an npc like Emily's but i think that's not what you're going for

[ornate trellis]

that would make it worse that means 20 orders

[gray bear]

wdym

[ornate trellis]

i have 20 items that need to be donated

[lucid iron]

No u can change the size psure

[ornate trellis]

i can?

[gray bear]

yes but how

[odd ginkgo]

"yes but how" ahh yesss that's what mod coding is all about, that's what keeps bringing me back

[lucid iron]

Yeah I'm trying to find it

[gray bear]

thank you

[lucid iron]

Jk i can't find it was it hallucination or mod who knew

[gray bear]

[ornate trellis]

ripperonis

[gray bear]

thanks for looking though

[lucid iron]

Ill look more when not on phone

[gray bear]

do mods that change the like size of containers edit it?

[lucid iron]

Possible

[gray bear]

wonder if Unlimited Storage would do the trick then

[ornate trellis]

idk but im not really planning to add a dependency for just a few order slots

[brittle pasture]

i can confirm resizing the dropbox is a thing

[ornate trellis]

O:

[brittle pasture]

cornucopia did it for the milk yogurt order

[ornate trellis]

hmmm

[gray bear]

ooooh

[icy warren]

im trying to make a dialogue mod with RSV characters, specifically Jio, but im having trouble for the dialogue to actually work.

{
"Format": "2.1.0",
"Changes": [

{
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Characters/Dialogue/Jio",
  "LogName": "Romantic Dialogue Overrides",
  "Entries": {


    "Introduction": "this is a test. skibidi toilet amirite?",


  }
}

]
}

this is what i've written so far. i'd appreciate any help!

[brittle pasture]

ok the field name is MinimumCapacity

set it the same place you set AcceptedContextTags

[lucid iron]

Introduction only happens in the first week

[gray bear]

[[Modding:Dialouge]]

i did not spell that right

[lucid iron]

So it never shows up in normal gameplay for Jio who is unlocked late

[gray bear]

just take the link
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

[ornate trellis]

holy shit

[gray bear]

selph here sharing the good knowledge

[lucid iron]

Have you looked at https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/20192

[brittle pasture]

hmm there's lot of undocumented stuff not on the special orders page still

[gray bear]

[icy warren]

I know, but isn't the thing at the beginning where it says "Jio's eyes are closed but it feels like hes staring at you" (or smt) an introduction? or does the mod only really work after i unlock him?

[brittle pasture]

someone who isn't fighting a week long flu should add them

[icy warren]

yes ive gone into the files to see if i can do the same but i dont think its working unless its that i18n file?

[gray bear]

where would you add the MinimumCapacity field

[lucid iron]

Well you'd use your own i18n keys yep

[rocky chasm]

Hi, I got a question. How hard would it be to make something like a plaque as a furniture item? The idea is a customizable text sign as a wall item with a way longer character limit that works via clicking on it instead of mouseover

[lucid iron]

But the actual dialogue keys are what you'd use as well

[uncut viper]

"Introduction" is not a specific dialogue key the game uses the first time you talk to someone

[icy warren]

is there any wiki page for that or do i have to wing it myself? 😭

[ornate trellis]

here, bea

[gray bear]

under basic fields? perhaps someone who understands shall do it

[uncut viper]

it's just a town conversational event that happens at the start of the game

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/translations.md

[uncut viper]

called "Introduction"

[lucid iron]

But yeah this stuff is the {{i18n: blah blah}}

[lucid iron]

You need this for the dialogue asset stuff

[icy warren]

alright thank you!!

hopefully i'll do it right 🙏

[lucid iron]

You would need at least a little bit of C#

[gray bear]

if you're going for romance there's a dating key i think

[brittle pasture]

there are also examples in the unpack

[lucid iron]

Because there's no such vanilla feature

[ornate trellis]

hmmm

[rocky chasm]

Noted, thanks

[ornate trellis]

I dont think this works for me or i understand special orders wrong

[gray bear]

ok so it is in basic fields,,, i can add it but can't say i'd describe it well

[brittle pasture]

!json pls

wow governor taking xmas vacation early

[gray bear]

damn

https://smapi.io/json

i can confirm i have no idea where one would add the min thing to the wiki

[brittle pasture]

yeah we need a new section for the Data field

[gray bear]

i fear formatting

also i should, prolly head to bed. maybe i can look at it tomorrow

.remind me in 24 hours look at adding a new section for special orders Data

did i use it wrong or

remind me in 24 hours look at adding a new section for special orders Data

[patent lance]

Bwthhybl? oh sorry got distracted yep on it (#6979095) (24h | <t:1764970778>)

[autumn tide]

cursed animal mod creations

[ornate trellis]

HM

[autumn tide]

..yeah i'm actually gonna work on that cursed animal mod in the bckg

[ornate trellis]

im maybe stuck

[autumn tide]

welllllll if anyone's interested here's the OG convo #making-mods-general message

[ornate locust]

yessss

[fervent horizon]

worked all day to get it, but I think this might be helpful on recipes - hopefully will get the update pushed out later today or tomorrow

[lucid iron]

Oo nice

Is it just hint or is it validating?

[fervent horizon]

for recipes it is just the hint, but items are validating in actual key:value fields

[ornate trellis]

can someone tell me if this looks right? i want 20 spots in the dropbox, 1 of each item from the VWC_artifact_item context tag https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/989176efb290477b91367ccf5b512a4c

[brittle pasture]

that will accept 20 items with the tag, not necessarily 20 different items (so 20 of the same item will work)

[ornate trellis]

damn

how can i make it not repeated

[lucid iron]

I think you probably want to just make unlockable bundle at that point

That would let you be specific about what's needed

[ornate trellis]

...

ill pass on that i really dont like making a new dependency for a single thing

[fervent horizon]

Unlockable Bundles is fairly easy to implement

[lucid iron]

A vanilla-ish solution is a "shop" that exists only to consume your items and set a flag

And you complete stuff by buying out the shop

You do have to give the player a dummy item though

[brittle pasture]

maybe you can try 20 different objectives with the same drop box

[lucid iron]

Does the journal implement scrolling

[ornate trellis]

hm

[brittle pasture]

the quest log is going to be rather wordy but that should be a pure vanilla solution for it

[fervent horizon]

Here is an example of what a crafting recipe shows

[lucid iron]

I think the shop way is fun and rarely done

But it won't appear in journal if that is a problem

[ornate trellis]

oh man i didnt think this would turn so complicated

[uncut viper]

this is why dependencies exist

[ornate trellis]

what if i make individual context tags for each artifact

[lucid iron]

Sometimes you just want to do smth mr ape didn't think of

[brittle pasture]

that's my solution

[lucid iron]

Oh you can use id_o_ tags

[brittle pasture]

and you can just use the auto tags yes

[ornate trellis]

tho that would peobs jsut bloat the list of context tags, i guess

[uncut viper]

thats what would lead to the mile long quest log page

[brittle pasture]

every item has a tag automatically generated from its id

[ornate trellis]

is it jsut the id or some sort of with an added _item to it?

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags

id_o_theitemidhere

[ornate trellis]

hm wait, would that guarantee only one of each can be donated

[brittle pasture]

the idea is you make an objective for every item

[ornate trellis]

ah

[fervent horizon]

Here is the flow for item completions - First Category, Then you can search items in the category, once you pick the item you want, you get the options for inserts

[hard fern]

omg

thats cool

[fervent horizon]

I need to clean up some items in the vanilla list, and do a bit more bug testing, but I am pretty close

[karmic gust]

how are overworld sprites numbered? 0+ from left to right?

[lucid iron]

All sprites r 0 indexed yep

[karmic gust]

I'm looking at Willy's sprites and the dick_fish animation description and I don't see how they line up

[hard fern]

it's all going by 16x16 squares though

[fervent horizon]

It also builds a list of items based on your installed mods if you give it your mod root folder location

[karmic gust]

sprites and it says "dick_fish": "0/8 8 9 9 10 10 11 11/8",

[hard fern]

so like you won't just go to 4 once you get to the next row (of actual human)

[ornate trellis]

how does this look https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a55762126e1b47789980683380436ade

[karmic gust]

his animation uses 64 px length I think, but I don't see how

[hard fern]

maybe willy is cursed e

[karmic gust]

very possible

[ornate locust]

Willy is hardcoded I am pretty sure

if you wanna do that, you need Spacecore

[karmic gust]

oh that sucks, I was hoping to make my NPC have a fishing animation too

[ornate trellis]

yup

[karmic gust]

dang

[ornate locust]

You can do it with Spacecore! It's not very hard

[ornate trellis]

you can with spacecore animations

[ornate locust]

I did it for my guy

[ornate trellis]

i did it for my fishmonger too

[hard fern]

spacecore has it for you.

[karmic gust]

I'll have to look into that, then

how annoying would it be to add a requirement for users 😅

[ornate trellis]

hm, so i have my special order...i have my dropbox....time to try it in game i guess? i feel like im missing something

[ornate locust]

Tons of people use Spacecore

[karmic gust]

yeah true

[hard fern]

eh, most players already use spacecore

so they probably won't even notice

[karmic gust]

okay I'll try and figure that out. Thanks!

[ornate trellis]

oh right the i18n

[autumn tide]

hellooo is there a way to make a custom bridge-thingy to make, like in the beach map?

[hard fern]

i know you can do it "the long way" by making a custom bundle...

[autumn tide]

..hm..

[royal stump]

there're lots of ways to trigger a mail flag and make something change, but those specific presentation details still need a framework, I think
not sure what's available offhand

[uncut viper]

MMAP + BETAS can probably get you there

aside from the obvious Unlockable Bundles ofc

[brave fable]

Unlockable Bundles is usually the way to go for a close-as-possible solution

the question-markbubble, fade-to-black-and-back, map patch, cost and payment, it's all hardcoded in the Beach location class

[ornate locust]

hardcoding shakes fist

[brave fable]

yeah it's honestly surprising how much 'aughhhh hardcoding' gets in your head when you're actually working instead of modding

but not everything can be or needs to be loaded from a totally generic data model

[uncut viper]

everything could be loaded from one... as long as you dont care about it being hyper specific and verbose

[brittle pasture]

raccoon bundles in data i beg

[brave fable]

hey you're not meant to be this colour purple

shoo, off with your pants

[uncut viper]

you're late

ive already talked to you as this purple before

[autumn tide]

....hm.

[hard fern]

purple button...

[lucid iron]

Blub if u get mod author again u could have right

To flex on button ofc

[brave fable]

what do you mean 'again'

[lucid iron]

Idk i thought u had it b4

[brave fable]

anyway sadly i can't, you need local legend to be mayor

my own son eludes me

[lucid iron]

Gotta yap 300 more levels

[hard fern]

huh

im closer to puffershorts

[uncut viper]

it doesnt count as a flex if i dont respect blueberry's authority to begin with

[brave fable]

please understand i'm new here

i need a lot of levels

[karmic gust]

I think I may have messed up adding the spacecore fishing animation a little bit

[hard fern]

lol

[brave fable]

ah yes, dynamic reflections

[ornate locust]

just got distracted looking at emojis, why is this guy so cursed

did his ex curse him

[royal stump]

adding a 1.7 suggestion to make him do that face in-game, canonize it

now I've cursed myself, wondering how hard it'd be to make puffers do random emoji faces midair when caught

[brittle pasture]

need to catch myself a

[odd ginkgo]

looping question forks are a go! ty ty ty!

[odd ginkgo]

omg she's so cute

[karmic gust]

thank you! I commissioned her art from Hime!

I keep getting an error trying to do the fishing animation 🥲

Here's the log: https://smapi.io/log/dfc0ef0bb2d44df6b2f99e88b85966c4

and here's the json: https://smapi.io/json/none/d025abca32d8424ead65a8cbe16b2777

I copied the example given on the spacecore documentation but I've never modded anything using it before

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.17.7.19, with 19 C# mods and 5 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[karmic gust]

wait, is it because I used "null" rather than null (without quotes) for the onframe section?

[uncut viper]

"null" and null are not the same thing

so probably

[karmic gust]

ah, I'm so used to adding them for everything

[uncut viper]

though the error doesnt seem to be for the sound

[karmic gust]

yeah the error is still occuring even with that fixed

[latent mauve]

what does your sprite sheet look like and did you properly count your indexes when you changed the source rect size?

[karmic gust]

this is the sprite sheet

I thought I counted correctly, taking into account that it now considers them to be 64 px long

thinking I miscounted, it'd start at 12 not 16

[latent mauve]

Yeah, you'd be starting at 12 with that sheet

[karmic gust]

thank you!

[latent mauve]

16 would not exist on that sheet at all

[ornate trellis]

Well, I am getting closer

idk why some translation keys dont work

[brittle pasture]

if you need help you know what to do

that's right, ||go have a nice pizza||

||im hungry||

[tight rivet]

hmm.

if I'm using CMCT to get tokens of other mods, I need to use Query: in CP, right?

[brittle pasture]

the cmct token itself is just a token like any others

[lucid iron]

what r the tokens you need specifically?

(selph is right about cmct tokens are just tokens, but sometimes there's other ways)

[ornate trellis]

ah dang i cannot donate shit, oh well, that is for tomorrow i really gotta go to bed now

[karmic gust]

https://smapi.io/json/none/7ba0943c2a4f49c798ec36b06f2ebcc2 I changed the animation to say "{{ModId}}_Fable_fishing": "12/12 12 13 13 14 14 15 15/12" but it's still throwing the same error

https://smapi.io/log/7467587d653e4dd4b9b880da2041949b

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.17.7.19, with 19 C# mods and 5 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[karmic gust]

she is doing the fishing animation but she glitches out when it starts, and that's when the error comes up

[hard fern]

im hungry now too

[tight rivet]

that's.. odd, because using them as tokens got lots of angry yellow text

prob a formatting thing tweaks, restarts

[ornate trellis]

the only thing i can say in this is that i dont have the onframe part and instead have a onend but not really sure if theres a diff in this or an issue (but who knows, ive done mine long agi, it does work fine tho)

[tight rivet]

it was a formatting thing

now time to test if the machines work

[lucid iron]

when you use stuff in query, content patcher looks away and doesn't validate as hard

doesn't mean stuff is right at runtime more like a shrug i dunno deal

[tight rivet]

ah

..suspicion one of my mods is patching the standard map: rising

[hard fern]

ooh looks fancy

flying fish

[karmic gust]

I removed onframe and that fixed it! Thank you so much for the help!!

[lucid iron]

g r a s s

[tight rivet]

first test: converting them to CP [success]

second test: getting the recipes added [not so much! D:]

third test: the prismatic one just failed

[tight rivet]

15:48:43    WARN    Content Patcher    SMAPI fixed maps loaded by this mod to prevent errors. See the log file for details.
15:48:43    TRACE    SMAPI    Fixed broken map replacement: Content Patcher loaded 'Maps/Farm' without a required tilesheet (id: extra_tiles, source: Maps\spring_outdoorTileSheet_extra).
15:48:43    TRACE    SMAPI    Fixed broken map replacement: Content Patcher loaded 'Maps/Farm' without a required tilesheet (id: v16_Outdoors2, source: Maps\spring_outdoorsTileSheet2).
``` i wonder why the map isn't working.

[calm nebula]

This is fine

It just means mod made before 1.6

[tight rivet]

hm.

Then i'm very confused, but good to know!

[mellow laurel]

if you open the map in tiled and manually embed the tilesheets mentioned named with the ids given it'll make the yellow stop.

[exotic token]

Ive been thinking more about that hypothetical combined joja and cc route mod

Would it be easier to modify the joja route itself? I could replace CommunityCenter_Joja with CommunityCenter_Ruins

and have custom bundles in the same place as the originals

The problem is the cutscenes I think

I dont have the specific coding done, but would that be the best way to do things?

[brittle pasture]

you still haven't solved the theatre problem methinks

[hard fern]

joja vs cc have the theater in completely different places

[brittle pasture]

maybe you can move it somewhere else

[exotic token]

What exactly is the theater, codewise? Is it it's own building?

[hard fern]

it is its own interior map yes

but there's a joja variant and a cc variant

[exotic token]

but the outside

[brittle pasture]

in the joja route the old cc becomes the theatre

[hard fern]

well it's just map tiles

[exotic token]

is it the whole town map changing or is it just a patch on the jojamart or community center?

[uncut viper]

its a patch that differs based on route

Town-Theater/Town-TheaterCC in your Maps unpack

[exotic token]

oh I see the issue

[uncut viper]

and a halloween variant for joja apparently

[exotic token]

and its annoying

[hard fern]

huh. halloween joja.

[exotic token]

its not just the building itself, the patches contain outside area

the easiest thing would be to make a third patch that just has the building

[tepid prawn]

Hi everyone, how’s it going?
I’m starting to make mods for Stardew Valley and, for my NPC pixel art, I’m using the farmer_base file as a reference. I’ve got some questions about which animations use certain sprites (some of them seem random to me).

Can any of you explain what each sprite in the spritesheet is used for? I couldn’t find any explanation about this online, only about the pants. I think it would be really helpful for beginners.

If you have any website recommendations, or if you’d like to explain it yourselves, I’d really appreciate it!

[exotic token]

This is very rough, but what about here?

[hard fern]

harvey walks in that area

[exotic token]

easy fix

remove harvey

[hard fern]

(not even mentioning how incompatible with other mods it would be)

[brittle pasture]

yeah I think at least a couple mods called dibs on that area already

[exotic token]

i cant think of major mods that do

Ive had stardew valley expanded, sunberry, and that area is fine

[hard fern]

which ones specifically are you confused about? i can't say for sure what all of them are but i might be able to answer a few. and honestly i would recommend using a vanilla npc as a base instead of the farmer, as the farmer has a rather unique set of animations that don't exactly fit in line with a regular npc

[exotic token]

i guess harvey could just like movies

i dont play with every mod sadly, so its a bit difficult

[stray hemlock]

Is anyone using the playground?

[hard fern]

the children?

[stray hemlock]

I hate children, so I wouldn't know /s

What about putting it there and adding stairs?

[hard fern]

sve house

it's just There

[exotic token]

true, but the rich snobs live there

jk dont hurt me victor

[stray hemlock]

Wait, what about having it in the basement of the CC? Like a home cinema, but for the community.

Or can you use that area?

[devout otter]

That's where Little Red Schoolhouse is.

[tight rivet]

thanks!

[stray hemlock]

It's just in the corner though, isn't it?

[devout otter]

If you are concerned about mod clashes, then the Eastern / Southern outskirts of town is about the only places not claimed yet.

[tepid prawn]

My question was more general, really — I wanted to use this spritesheet to create my NPCs. I’m a programmer and have no experience with pixel art, so creating my sprites this way would be easier for me. The walking sprites are already done, but I wanted something for sleeping, fishing, sitting, etc.
The player’s animations are much more complex than those of NPCs, so I thought it would be more useful and practical to use them as a base.
Anyway, do you know where the player animation files are located? That way I could take a look at the actions and see which sprite indexes the game uses.

[uncut viper]

in my opinion there is zero point to trying to find an unclaimed space in town. pick one you like, make it compatible with the things you play with or like, and care less about all the things that make it incompatible otherwise

[stray hemlock]

Begone, Pierre's then.

[hard fern]

im not sure where they are for the player. npc animations are in Data/animationDescriptions though

[devout otter]

Well that would make it incompatible with a lot of vanilla things and give even more work to resolve...

[tight rivet]

sunberry grabs the southeastern bit of town

[exotic token]

how about here?

[uncut viper]

looks fine to me

[exotic token]

its very rough but

[uncut viper]

doesn't replace much

[devout otter]

I mean Eastern or Southern. Not South-Eastern.

[tight rivet]

ah

[hard fern]

didnt you know, pierre's is actually a movie theater chain

[stray hemlock]

You could make it that Joja expands to movie business and the theater is on top.

[exotic token]

and its good because there is a doctor when you get sick from too much butter on popcorn

[exotic token]

on top of the joja mart?

[stray hemlock]

Yeah.

[exotic token]

hmm

let me look to see how it would fit

[tepid prawn]

Yes, I’ve already taken a look at all of those files. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find the player’s animation file either. But I’ll see what I can do. Thank you very much for everything!

[vernal crest]

Characters/farmer

Ah I see you want info about the code. In that case you'll want to look through the decompile.

[exotic token]

ugh its not easy to copy

[vernal crest]

There's no player animation file in data

[hard fern]

Time to decompile the game ahaha...

[exotic token]

but it works theoretically @stray hemlock

[hard fern]

(dont you have to be a certain level to get access to the decompiled game)

[stray hemlock]

Good luck.

[twin wadi]

you can decompile yourself i believe but you can get the github repo with the decompiled game at.... mod author role + lvl 100 if my memory is correct?

[uncut viper]

lvl 50

[vernal crest]

!decompile it's incredibly easy to decompile yourself

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[tight rivet]

progress: prismatic shows up!

[twin wadi]

oh sorry got it mixed up!
how do you get access? im at lvl 90 something but im not sure where to find it

[tight rivet]

negative progress: the animation isn't working. T.T

and god that means I have to trobleshoot how CP handles frames

(my bane is this kind of thing)

[uncut viper]

you ask pathos for access

he will ask for your github username

[exotic token]

oh i hate this

[stray hemlock]

Are we supposed to report any other GitHub repo we come across that hosts the decompiled code?

[exotic token]

this is not as easy as I though

[uncut viper]

any other repository that is hosting the decompiled game is not in the legal right to do so, but as far as i understand it ConcernedApe LLC is the only entity that has the authority to go after them since, yknow, its their stuff

you cant just file a DMCA on someone elses behalf without express authority to do so

[stray hemlock]

Yeah, I meant reporting it to CA.

[tight rivet]

"(Optional) The animation to apply to the machine sprite, specified as a list of offsets relative to the base sprite index. Default none. " ..

is that offset in pixels..?

how is this supposed to work.

[urban patrol]

i feel like you’d be playing whack a mole trying to report

[uncut viper]

its not really worth the trouble and many of them are already known about and have been up for years

[stray hemlock]

Alrighty. Thank you.

[exotic token]

is there a way to make all the tiles to always front, so I can look at it for testing purposes?

[urban patrol]

put them on the always front layer in your map

what are you trying to test

[exotic token]

this may work

edited to make sense

[tight rivet]

... I wonder if any of the vanilla machines use frames.

[hard fern]

What about the loom?

[royal stump]

23 uses in vanilla, apparently

[brittle pasture]

the loom's spinny thing is actually hardcoded

[tight rivet]

Yeah, I found one, I'm just trying to work out why this machine isn't doign anything now

[brittle pasture]

cornucopia also has examples or mine

[devout otter]

Yar, moving the ticket booth someplace else should be relatively easy. And if I'm understanding this map correctly, emulating the theater entrance thing should be doable, as well.

[tight rivet]

"WorkingEffects": [{
                    "Id": "Default",
                    "Condition": null,
                    "Frames": [ 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24],
                    "Interval": 166,
                    "Sounds": [ { "Id": "furnace", "Delay": 0 } ],
                    }
                ],
                "LightWhileWorking": { "Radius": 1.5, "Color": "#ee82eec7" },
                "WorkingEffectChance": 1.0,``` feels like it should work. somehow.

i can't see visible mismatches with known-working machines

[exotic token]

not exactly

there are no tiles that work for the spot behind where the ticket booth would be

I would have to make entirely new tiles

[devout otter]

Do you mean art-wise?

[brittle pasture]

did you also set a load effect

[tight rivet]

yes

is that's what causing it..?

[exotic token]

yes

[brittle pasture]

no, that's correct

full code pls

[tight rivet]

one sec

[exotic token]

I am not the best at pixel art

[royal stump]

I'm not sure if it's an issue, but everything in Data/Machines uses "Frames": 4 or "Frames": 6 rather than a list

[ornate locust]

It'd be pretty simple to just tile the wood off to the right if you wanted nothing there.

[royal stump]

...oh, that's on the sprites, not the base effect frames

[tight rivet]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1955d053e4984a61a5c7032eabc4f5b9

[royal stump]

nevermind me, still poking around the code/docs

[latent mauve]

I only barely remember what I did for the spinny laundry machines

[exotic token]

Theres the shadow, theres no actual full tile

[ornate locust]

might also want to erase the door too really, so it's not floating, unless you're putting a platform there or something? with stairs up?

[brittle pasture]

your load effect just has the sound

try also adding the frames/interval/etc

[exotic token]

I prefer my first spot personally

[ornate locust]

Then go for it!

[exotic token]

but i was just testing out different spots

[tight rivet]

.. why would I need to add that to load and not working?

[brittle pasture]

last I checked there was some jank with if there's no load effects that runs some frames working effects won't run afterwards

[tight rivet]

... huh

that was it

thank you!

[inner harbor]

would produce excluded from the Shipping menu via "ExcludeFromShippingCollection": true, still be recorded when shipped? I would quite like to use PLAYER_SHIPPED_BASIC_ITEM to have someone send you a recipe once you ship one of the specific ingredients.

(an idea I got from Fields of Mistria)

[rain matrix]

Is...is manipulating farm animal movement in this game supposed to be an exercise in repeatedly hitting brick walls, or is it just me? My behavior code is engine-neutral (or at least mostly), but SDV doesn't seem to play nice with almost anything I do that isn't constantly running.

[lucid iron]

did you beat up the vanilla path finder first

[rain matrix]

Beatings are continuing until morale improves. If my behaviors are always running (which they were for debug), they express normally, but adding any conditions just lets the vanilla pathfinding beat it back up

[lucid iron]

yea u gotta keep yeeting the vanilla one

[rain matrix]

I'm honestly debating on just overriding the entire FarmAnimal pathfinding for it

I'd hate to lose barn warping but if I have to rewrite it, oh well

[lucid iron]

i mean its what you desire yes?

but yea if u look at FarmAnimal.cs, it has a lot of places where it just set controller to some other thing

[rain matrix]

Yeah it's super dumb

[lucid iron]

null or vanilla pathfinder

[rain matrix]

I was looking at it in horror

[lucid iron]

so i dont think u have a choice here

[rain matrix]

I mean I get it if farm animals are meant to be set dressing I guess

I mean good to know now and not when I have fifty things going on

[lucid iron]

for a mod like that i will forgive skip prefix on FarmAnimal.MovePosition

do be aware that some other mods may have done this too

[royal stump]

Probably not. The GSQ seems to check the same data and exclusions as the % completion shipping stat, etc.

[brittle pasture]

don't animals have a pathfinder controller that if set it will obey no matter what

[inner harbor]

Thanks, might be a bit risky then given you can toggle it off. I'll keep it friendship based.

[rain matrix]

It seems to be overridden at several different points

[brittle pasture]

only for food I think

[lucid iron]

hm what if u make MaxPathfindingPerTick=0

that seems to stop a lot of the set to vanilla ones

[brittle pasture]

so if you keep setting it and the animal isn't hungry you can control its behavior nearly totally

[rain matrix]

I'd try it. And ultimately this mod is meant to make most of the behaviors a bit more charming so if I have to just yeet it all, good to know now

The cows when they are behaving so far

No collission logic yet but I've been stuck in 'what the hell is this pathfinding' for a couple days now

[brittle pasture]

that is definitely not the vanilla pathfindcontroller lol

[rain matrix]

Oh no this is all mod lol

when I put any condition at all on that behavior SDV took over

[brittle pasture]

for examples extra animal config has attack/harvesting animals that is achieved with judiciously writing and rewriting the pathfindcontroller var

[rain matrix]

Omg thank you! I have been flying blind with this

[lucid iron]

whats your ultimate goal

farm animals come with you?

[rain matrix]

To "charmify" farm animal behaviors - adding subtle personality variation, ultimatley not gameplay-impacting but emotionally compelling subtleties like cow clustering and observable babies following adults. Possibly some silly behaviors.

I've been modeling a couple things in an ASCII environment but figured I'd test a single behavior in SDV before I go back and forth and iterate too much

[brittle pasture]

but yeah disadvantage of pathfindcontroller is that the animal can only have one at a time, so you may be stepping on the toes of my other mods

if it's just vanilla though you don't have to worry since as mentioned animals only use it if they need to eat

[rain matrix]

I was trying so hard to make things clean and I'm running into those bite the bullet questions of pathfinding override mods

My original plan was to look and see how other animal mods did similar things but it seems like few do. So Extra Animal config? Any others come to mind?

[brittle pasture]

Like A Duck To Water is another behavior tweaking mod

though I believe that mod patches the random behaviors function

goodness that's a lot of patches

[rain matrix]

That's where I am rn...patching and holding my nose and hoping nothing breaks too much

[calm nebula]

Babies follow adults in vanilla

(Frankly no clue how often)

[rain matrix]

That's what inspired the idea actually

That the code exists and nobody knows about it

Because it's not telegraphed or easily observable

[lucid iron]

I think as long as you give people a way to opt out their custom farm animal it's fine

Not every mod gotta be compatible with every other mod

And maybe u just eat the functionality of duck to water completely

[calm nebula]

@blissful panther is there a way to know when an animal is a meep animal

I would also point out that Marnie has a few cows

Other than that, sounds like a fun mod!

[noble ermine]

Hey, I want to create an event-based extension mod, but I have absolutely no coding skills. So, does anyone know how to get started, or maybe what I'm making would interest you so we can collaborate? I'll handle everything except the coding.

[devout otter]

What do you mean by event extension? Are you adding a bunch of events?

[noble ermine]

I want to expand the content of one of the character modules I'm playing with, such as inviting him out on dates and some additional events.

I really liked that mod, but the original author said she's moving on to developing a new standalone project, and there won't be any more updates to this mod. That's why I had this idea.

[hard fern]

You'll need to know the basics of content patcher first, even before you try and do more complicated things

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[noble ermine]

thanks, I've been reading articles of that, i think i had some basic understandning of CP, but I seriously doubt whether I can actually write anything.

[urban patrol]

everyone starts somewhere!

if you have determination i fully believe anyone can make a mod

[karmic gust]

is there a template or example I could look at of an NPC being added to the ice fishing festival main event using a fishing sprite? I see that mainEvent has the commands, "showFrame Elliott 40/extendSourceRect Elliott 16 0" which I tried to copy using text operations and fields but neither have worked and I'm not even sure if those are the correct commands to use

[hard fern]

yeah, the only way to get better at something is to actually do it

[autumn tide]

it definitely takes a while to learn, but it's absolutely doable and worth trying :)

[autumn tide]

i think buttons actually just released their first JSON tutorial and it's really good, want me to send it?

[noble ermine]

sure! thanks!

[autumn tide]

https://stardew.button.gay/tutorials/json

[tiny zealot]

something about cooking

[uncut viper]

is Something About Cooking compatible with Love of Cooking and Yet Another Cooking Skill?

[tiny zealot]

no, Something About Cooking is incompatible by design with any mod containing the string "yet another" in its title (case insensitive)

[lucid iron]

@oblique meadow https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/releases/tag/1.12.2-rc.0

here is how to make trees confused https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/[CP] MMAP Examples/wild_tree_properties.json

[karmic gust]

That's really cool looking

[lucid iron]

one of these days i will release my cursed test mods into the world

[calm nebula]

It's hardcoded

[tulip steeple]

hello im trying to understand Machine Progression System code (not mine)
where does this tag "large_egg_item" and "egg_item" coming from? i couldnt find it in other file inside the mod folder
i wanted to change it because this egg_item and large_egg_item tag include eggs other than chicken eggs, and thats making problem like void egg/dinosaur egg keep turning into normal mayo (somehow) even when the code for those type already above
and no, i will not repost the mods anywhere just because im too lazy to make anypost and fill anything in general (like that one bug i already fix and screenshot but too lazy to report because they wanted me to put the image in other website first before adding the link to comment)

[lucid iron]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[lucid iron]

if you do this and then look at Data/Objects it should show things

[karmic gust]

Ah dang, alright. Well time to move her then lol

[tepid prawn]

Hi everyone!
Some NPCs have animations where the sprite takes up more space than 16x32 (like Willy fishing or Clint at the anvil).
How can I create animations for my NPCs that also use sprites larger than 16x32? Is that possible?

[devout otter]

If it's in an event, you can load a temporary actor for it. If you want this animation to happen during their schedule, you'd need to use additional framework like SpaceCore.

[tepid prawn]

Ah, great. I’ll take a look at that. Thank you very much!

[dense arch]

is there like a json parser for dialogue string stuff specifically, like checking for correct command isolation (i.e. #$b# and not $b#)? I'm running into some issues with the portrait not updating to the correct one

[ornate locust]

ahhh, got my first user mad that my cop is gay! ...Well, not really, he's mad about my gay stamp. he seems to have entirely missed the LGBT tag, the mentions of gayness in the description...

[gentle rose]

gay stamp?

[ornate locust]

I have a clerk who sells stamps, one is a pride stamp

[brittle pasture]

ah, those people
why are you playing the gay farming game and getting mad at gay mods

[gentle rose]

damn, people really get mad about everything

[ornate locust]

This mod could not be more clearly labeled as gay, there's a tag and everything

[gentle rose]

oh just saw the comment lmao

[ornate locust]

I mention Bill's gay at least twice in the description

[gentle rose]

wondering if they think you can’t marry the opposite gender in stardew

[ornate locust]

That stamp's not even in the preview images, did he download it first and then notice it?

[gentle rose]

you can check if they downloaded your mod, can’t you?

oh it’s image 6 in the previews

[ornate locust]

AHA yeah there it is

So he didn't read, just looked at the pics, less surprising than it should be

Good thing he saw that before he got to the scary shot of the wizard and Bill dating

might have made his little heart explode

[gentle rose]

if you report the comment they’ll probably get a warning tbh

[ornate locust]

I could add to my -phobe kill count on Nexus, true. (I did a top scar thing for BG3, I got a lot of em)

[gentle rose]

(fyi, game paths change massively depending on how the user installed stardew, so you may want to change your instructions to “unzip to your mods folder” at some point)

[ornate locust]

ah heck

[dense arch]

"One day we'll need to smuggle in snacks and eat them in front of the fireplace.$l#$b# Not this one!$6#$b# Imagine if Penny caught us!$a"

can someone tell me where I am messing up?

[gentle rose]

personally I didn’t even buy the game through steam

[ornate locust]

well I'm already in here fixing a typo, may as well

There we go

[gentle rose]

what npc is this for?

[ornate locust]

That looks functional enough to me, what's messing up?

[dense arch]

it's loading in the default portrait, even though the NPC has 9

[gentle rose]

for which line?

[ornate locust]

For all of it?

[dense arch]

it loads the default for both the second and third box, which should be 6 and 5

[gentle rose]

but it loads the first one correctly?

[dense arch]

I thought so, but I've been restarting the game so much, I lost track, I just did some edits so I'll check back in a couple minutes

I hate json 😂

[gentle rose]

if you answer which npc this is I’d be able to check some suspicions

[dense arch]

it's Leah

please explain why which NPC it is matters though, because I have no clue

[gentle rose]

some npcs don’t have certain portraits or don’t have them for certain appearances, plus knowing the context always helps

[dense arch]

I checked the portrait file to pick the corresponding numbered ID first, hence my confusion

[latent mauve]

You might be better off calling the portrait number directly in case the alias is not where you are expecting, also remember to start your index count at 0

[dense arch]

yeah, I did that just now
borked

"Nggh, another good morning! I'm a little short on sleep though.$h#$b# I just couldn't put down the book.$4",

this fails to load the correct portrait and default to 0 for the second line

[gentle rose]

could you share your full json?

!json

[dense arch]

no

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[dense arch]

I'm replacing the dialogue as needed for lines in here, I'll have to rewrite dozens of lines to not break the nsfw rule

[urban patrol]

you don’t have a mod that edits leah’s portraits do you

[dense arch]

of course I do, but I also have a mod that edits elliott and over there it works

[latent mauve]

Are you using EditData or Load for your dialogue changes?

[gentle rose]

could you share the full json but just remove all the other lines?

also, does your leah portrait retexture have all nine portraits?

[dense arch]

yes it does

[urban patrol]

well in general it’s ideal to test with a minimal mod setup so you can rule out other mod interactions

[dense arch]

all the lines I would have to remove are the ones that aren't firing right 😂

[dense arch]

lemme replace the portrait mod with another and see if that is the cause then, but it really shouldn't

[gentle rose]

have you been testing with the version you’re actually sending here, or a completely different version?

[dense arch]

I only change relevant words and otherwise retain the full syntax

[latent mauve]

Can you change the NSFW dialogue to line 1, line 2, etc. for the sake of sharing the code block?

[dense arch]

I'm not sure what you mean by that

[latent mauve]

Meaning put dummy text instead of the NSFW text if that's your concern but leave the dialogue commands

[dense arch]

that's what I did when posting the line earlier

[latent mauve]

Yeah, but we want to see the Action: and Target parts with the rest of the block so it can be checked for syntax/formatting issues

Or at least I do

[gentle rose]

personally I just like to see the full picture as much as possible so if you’re testing with a different line to what we’re seeing then tbh I’m not super motivated to be trying to help you debug this without even being able to see what you’re doing to be able to try to spot any issues, good luck though

[dense arch]

"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Strings/schedules/Leah",
"Entries": {
"marriage_thu1": "Nggh, another good morning! I'm a little short on sleep though.$h#$b# aaaaa. aaaaaaa.$4",

for example

I just replaced the nsfw part of the line with aaaaa
even retaining the period

the dialogue itself fires fine, only the portrait is off

the json parser sees no errors, and the dialogue overall fires no problem, it's just specifically leah that fails to load the portrait correctly (elliott does)

[vernal crest]

Try patch export of Leah's portraits

[dense arch]

it's the portrait mod, I swapped to a backup mod and now it sets the correct portrait

they have the same amount of portraits, they're just different sizes, but I accounted for that with the display framework

so I am not sure /why/ it doesn't load the correct one

[gentle rose]

that would have also been good to know since hd portrait mods work differently

[dense arch]

this uses scale up

[gentle rose]

which is an hd portrait/texture mod

[dense arch]

it's the same mod across elliot and leah, elliot works, and leah works too, but not when I swap Leah to an alternative mod that is almost the same dimensions (I adjusted the display framework from 1000 to 1024 to account for the extra pixels), why that fails entirely to set any portraits is beyond me

if it set an offset of the portrait, that'd make sense, but to fail entirely is ????

[urban patrol]

you should probably check that portrait mod’s nexus page to see if there are instructions for mod authors

[gentle rose]

it’s because when the source box is invalid (even by just a little bit sometimes) the game reverts to default. which is why this would have been useful to know

[latent mauve]

I would expect that portraits that don't follow a size that is a multiple of 64 will have weird issues, because if your source rectangle goes beyond the image then it goes weird

[gentle rose]

it depends how the framework handles them

[latent mauve]

Or to default like irocendar said

[dense arch]

the regular sheet is 2000x5000 and the alternative sheet is 2048x5120

the framework is set to
"portrait": {
"xOffset": -850,
"yOffset": -932,
"h": 1024,
"w": 1000,
"right": false,
"bottom": true,
"scale": 1
to account for the alternative

oh yeah, I'm a fucking dumbass I forgot to adjust the w:

and yep, that was it. just. making a boo-boo and forgetting

both of you (irocendar and fireredlily), thank you for helping

[dense arch]

is there a specific reason the schedule cannot do this? the NPCs will just stand there and won't budge
(I see the 'bed' location on the wiki, I'll try that next, but that's not really what I want)

[gentle rose]

npcs can’t go on the farm

for the most part

(or ever, possibly? I can’t quite remember if spouses teleporting to their spouse patio is the only exception)

[dense arch]

these are spouses. wandering spouses generally adds the functionality (they wake up in the house and they properly pathfind out of the house and over the actual farm towards the bus stop) and I /can/ force the reverse with a manual schedule from the farmhouse spouse scheduler mod, but I cannot get the default game schedule to do the same thing

I was hoping the presence of wandering spouses would allow it do it, but I guess not, orz

[blissful panther]

If the specific animal's instance has the modData key MEEP_Farm_Animal, it's MEEP!

It might be a good idea to add a section to the docs for C# people for things like this...

[dense arch]

I'm clueless, how do you use the "bed" argument in a schedule?

also, the wiki says this, but doesn't give an example of how exactly you preface it
a2100?
a_2100?
a 2100?
(I tried all of those and came up with errors)

[vernal crest]

The first. a2100. You have to make sure they have enough time to actually get there by that time.

[dense arch]

will the game outright throw me a smapi error on day start if it calculates they can't?

like this should be plenty of time

[vernal crest]

You can look at the vanilla data for how to use bed in a schedule and for how to format things like the a schedules.

[dense arch]

yeah I found the atime thing, after scrolling past it like 18 times

[vernal crest]

Where are they leaving from to get to the Saloon at 1740?

[dense arch]

the museum

[vernal crest]

And what time do they arrive at the Saloon?

[dense arch]

like this shouldn't be a problem?
ignore the probably incorrect bed thing

[vernal crest]

But no, I don't think it normally gives an error at the start of the day for insufficient time.

You've got them arriving at BusStop at 2110 but then making them change to a different schedule point mid-way through trying to get to BusStop.

[dense arch]

what?

shouldn't the a2110 work off the saloon?

[vernal crest]

Your bed schedule is set to start at 2100 but they're still trying to walk to BusStop then

[dense arch]

oh that's a typo

that was 2200 in the last test

I rewrote the entire line because I thought I had an invisible space

good catching that, saves me 1 more reboot

how do you do embed code in discord again

"Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Characters/schedules/Elliott",
            "Entries": {
                "marriage_Thu": "
                620 BusStop 14 22 1 \"Strings\\schedules\\Elliott:marriage_thu1\"/
                800 ArchaeologyHouse 21 17 2 elliott_read \"Strings\\schedules\\Elliott:marriage_thu2\"/
                1300 ArchaeologyHouse 44 5 0 \"Strings\\schedules\\Elliott:marriage_thu3\"/
                1740 Saloon 25 18 1 \"Strings\\schedules\\Elliott:marriage_thu4\"/
                a2110 BusStop 14 22 1 \"Strings\\schedules\\Elliott:marriage_thu5\"/
                2130 bed 10 10 2",```

ok, that#s more readable

[vernal crest]

!codeblock

[ocean sail]

You can embed code in Discord using a series of three ` :
```
Your code can go here
Even if not a haiku
Just an example
```

For syntax highlighting, add the language code on the same line as the first
``` (with no space, like ```json).
The usual codes are cs (C#) and json.

To use this command, type !codeblock.

[vernal crest]

It will ignore the 10 10 2 in your bed schedule point by the way

[dense arch]

yeah I know

[vernal crest]

Also, without you showing me what your log error is, I can't help much

[dense arch]

I added that because it kept saying the bed line is invalid

it seems to have loaded without errors after adding the ignored parameter

it kept telling me the input wasn't valid

and NPC walking into the void again

frequently when I boot the game, one of the spouses just walks off into the void instead of pathing to the schedule point

https://smapi.io/log/366efbc061034b15a79356e8fe402b92 if you wanna look at the log

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 111 C# mods and 92 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[dense arch]

specifically, Leah woke up, and as soon as the 620 schedule hit, she walked off into the void, but I have no clue what would cause that. Elliott has basically the exact same schedule, just offset by one x coordinate, and got there fine

[sleek aurora]

The output only displays the taste of the seasoning or fuel. I can't understand why it doesn't work together. https://smapi.io/json/none/8639fd1d4c1c43139eeb474ee812224e

[vernal crest]

I am unsure which of these warnings I am meant to be looking at

[dense arch]

I think the issue is specifically linked to which spouse is in bed in the morning, I've seemingly only had them break and void walk that way. Not 100% sure, but I am certainly mule enough to find out

[vernal crest]

I am not experienced with polyam mods so I can't help with anything except syntax, sorry

[dense arch]

I'm good at smashing face first into walls until I have trial and error'd my way to a cause. mostly.

just trying to help is worth a lot, it makes someone not feel like they're just sitting there and on their own

now I just hope the bed command works as it should

well it seems to work for one of them...
oh I see it. case sensitive.

aaaaaaand the NPC gets stuck in the entrance.

it's strange, one of the other spouses manages to return home just by going to the bus stop

let's see what happens if I just send them to the bus stop

[dense arch]

oh right, without the scheduler mod... I am screwed here

[swift falcon]

ugh that gen ai guy is posting so much bloat

[vernal crest]

You can go to their profile and Ignore them and it should hide all their mods

And/or reporting them for undeclared AI might be helpful?

[gentle rose]

you can also report the particularly blatant ones like the "empty file creator" for DP farming

[dense arch]

time to figure out "when weather" conditions for schedules

this'll be a joy

wait a second
so what does the game do on a rain day?
do I have to put in redundancies with marriage_<season>_<day of month> just in case it rains?

[gentle rose]

don't they just stay home on rainy days

[dense arch]

I want to get around that

this does not specify that it doesn't work on rainy days

so by... just copying this 16 times to cover all saturdays in the game, would I be able to get around a rainy saturday preventing my schedule?

marriage_spring_6
marriage_spring_12
etc

I do have a rainy saturday right now, I could test this

[stray hemlock]

Probably. I think the reason is that this can be used for specific things like checkups.

[dense arch]

yeah, I was thinking about the possibility of "this probably exists so a checkup isn't skipped due to rain"

[stray hemlock]

Does Emily still visit Sandy on her birthday when married?

[dense arch]

uh...

surely a veteran will know

well, time to dupe up

huh is there no way to force a different sprite sheet via schedules? I.e. make Maru wear her nurse outfit somewhere else?
the scheduler can do it so I figured there was a vanilla way too

[stray hemlock]

I'm pretty sure you can, but my internet is really bad now.

[dense arch]

I see being able to set animations of course, oh well, hopefully they auto-change when going to ginger island wait a second that should show me how to do it let's check SVE

I can't find anything in the schedule data that regulates this 😂

[finite ginkgo]

There isn't a way to do it through schedules, it's normally done through the NPC's appearance data and an appropriate condition

[dense arch]

I'm almost afraid to ask where that is

[finite ginkgo]

In Data/Characters

[dense arch]

like this?

[gray bear]

that's a config

the field would be called appearance

I'm on phone but there's example in the npc data wiki iirc

[[modding:npc data]]

[dense arch]

let's see if I can gamble with the scheduler function doing it for me because I throw myself into another thing that will make me go up the wall

[gray bear]

schedules have nothing to do with appearance

[dense arch]

the scheduler can force set the sprite sheet used

as in, the mod

not the vanilla function

[gray bear]

I mean... why tho

[dense arch]

why what?

[gray bear]

why use that instead of the vanilla function

[dense arch]

because it'll be 1000x more annoying to learn, understand and setup the vanilla function
I'll have to do that if I can't get it to work with the mod

I'm already losing my mind understanding schedule stuff

it's just a dropdown with this

[woeful lintel]

what if this uses the defined appearances?

[devout otter]

I mean, since Kuugen is editing vanilla character, that screenshot would be how to do it. Just maybe without the When field.

[dense arch]

I can't even make a guess how it does it, but it's a simple thing I can set up, hope it works, and if it does, don't have to bother with any other file edits since this has its own json it reads from

at the very least, the season_day setup lets me get around the rain issue

[versed wyvern]

Hrmm... if another mod adds dialogue keys with i18n support, there isn't a good way to alter them without overwriting the i18n tokens, is there? Like I suspect TextOperations may not work on i18n-ed strings?

[gentle rose]

iirc it applies to whichever version is currently in use?

[vernal crest]

TextOperations should work because by the time it's in game it's going to be the actual string. But I can't see it working for anything except the language that you're using, unless you manually add a patch for each language.

(Though now that I think about it, ReplaceDelimited on any string - i18n or not - is only going to work for one language 🤔)

[versed wyvern]

Mm, what I'm hoping to be able to do is replace the portrait codes in the dialogue which should be consistent across all translations using ReplaceDelimited with $ as the delimiter, though I'm not entirely sure if that's doable

[vernal crest]

Won't work because the delimiter has to be in front of and behind the string you want to replace.

Unless there's only one line in the string and therefore the portrait code is the final character

[versed wyvern]

Well, there happens to be $ signs before the portrait codes and the #$b# line breaks, would that work?

[gentle rose]

actually it might you'd have to replace the # too

[versed wyvern]

Ye, but I assume no one's ever tried anything like it before

[gentle rose]

only one way to find out!

[versed wyvern]

I'm only exploring it in hopes of making a very jank, very niche compatibility patch

[vernal crest]

You'd have to replace everything between them, so as an example, the line
"Thu2": "Miss Penny is teaching me how to write in cursive.$h#$e#She has such pretty handwriting.$h",

for the first portrait command you'd need to have your Search value as "h#" and your Value value as "19#" (in my example you're replacing it with portrait 19)

but then you'd need a separate TextOperations entry for the second portrait command with a Search of "h" and Value of "19".

[versed wyvern]

And I assume there's no way to just bridge my edits to use the other mod's existing i18n tokens?

[gentle rose]

what are you trying to do?

[versed wyvern]

The ultimate task is to take a mod that adds extra portraits onto the vanilla portrait sheets to instead just swap to a custom portrait sheet

But even if I can successfully do that (using BETAS to change appearance is the plan there) all lines of dialogue would need to point to different portrait codes

Although said mod has open modification permissions so maybe it'd be easier to just directly edit and upload their jsons

[vernal crest]

No, you can't touch their i18n directly, but CMCT can get other mods' i18n keys if that's any help

[versed wyvern]

Mm... alas I think that leaves the portrait codes out of reach

[lucid iron]

What if u just put the portraits still at same spot

Eg if it was originally portrait 9 then leave it there and have 1-8 blank

[versed wyvern]

Unfortunately the root issue that required me to investigate all this tomfoolery is that I have to find some way to prevent portrait sheets from getting too big

[lucid iron]

Oh it's cus of the 4096x4096 limit

What you can do on the special sheet is to go horizontal

[versed wyvern]

Well, as far as I can tell I suspect it may be more like 8192

[lucid iron]

Normally ppl don't cus it breaks the $h $l whatever

But $11 does work for any sprite index 11

Even if ur portraits are like 12 things in a row horizontally

[versed wyvern]

Oh, you're saying that because these would all be unique portraits that don't use the hard-coded $h and $s and whatever they might be fine?

[lucid iron]

Yeah

Presumably they r beyond index 5 right

And u r only doing it in some niche places

Although are u using ddfc

Might also be a reasonable feature request to auto offset the indexes

[versed wyvern]

Indeed I yam, but then this is going into territory where I don't have an ounce of understanding about how it works

The horizontal indexes might be crazy enough to work though, I'll keep it in mind

Would be swell if I could figure out why some hardware can't display big textures in the first place but I understand that even less

Apparently someone using an Nvidia 4070 had the problem, managed to get it go away by changing his graphics card setting to highest performance, whatever that actually means. I on the other hand don't seem to have any problem in the first place on a 3070

[lucid iron]

https://wikis.khronos.org/opengl/Texture smth to do with this probably

The 4096x4096 is what's definitely safe for monogame I believe

[dense arch]

I'm on a MUCH lower spec and have no problem at all with your mods for what it is worth

[obtuse wigeon]

Ye it's less so the hardware itself, and more the implementation or software to hardware communication, I am on a GTX 970 (11 years old) and I have no issues with textures larger than 4096²

[versed wyvern]

How mysterious...

[lucid iron]

Sdv vanilla basically never has to think about this so there's no infrastructure when someone decide that actually portraits r 4x tall now

[versed wyvern]

It's just that, as someone with no coding knowledge, I thought that kind of limitation would have shown up from the game engine, not the graphics card someone was running

And especially with seemingly no correlation to the power of the card

[lucid iron]

It's lower level than game engine

[dense arch]

architecture level?

[lucid iron]

Graphic api impl level hence why someone could change some settings and have it work

[blissful panther]

Yeah, the maximum that should be guaranteed safe is 4096x4096: https://docs.monogame.net/articles/getting_to_know/whatis/graphics/WhatIs_GraphicsProfile.html

[vernal crest]

I provide Pathos's warning about not using horizontal layout and then I bow out.

[versed wyvern]

Yeah, that was mentioned the last time I was trying to brainstorm ways to sidestep around this but I think in my specific use case it just might be fine

Because they'd never come up during any non-modded contexts

[vernal crest]

The NPCs won't be in any non-modded contexts? How?

[versed wyvern]

The appearances that I'd switch them over would never be used outside of mod scenes

[lucid iron]

I guess you can do it like

Hard coded portraits are where they are

But also go horizontal

[vernal crest]

So you'd assign them the horizontal spritesheets just for events?

[versed wyvern]

Yeah, something along those lines

Possibly also involving BETAS UpdateAppearance for particular schedule dialogue

[vernal crest]

It might work then?

(Also I bet I was the one who brought it up last time too xD)

[heavy pewter]

Guys, what am I doing wrong here? It's not working, I was expecting Smapi errors and I'm surprised there's none

[vernal crest]

Haha yes it was me sorry!

[versed wyvern]

Is all good, is better to go in fully knowing things could go wrong

[vernal crest]

I've no clue but could you add logging to each step so you can find out what parts are running?

[lucid iron]

Don't check parent sheet index pls use qualifieditemid

But hm I don't think you even need to harmony here, there's smapi buttonschanged event instead

In terms of what's actually no work i would check if result and wasbtapped actually have expected values

[heavy pewter]

Problem is ButtonPressed and ButtonChanged can't recognize mobile buttons

[lucid iron]

I see, probably a feature request to ask of android smapi person then

[lucid iron]

So yeah I would see if this is as expected

[heavy pewter]

This is the answer lmao

Another addition to my collections

https://github.com/kazutopi1/Harmony/tree/main

[exotic token]

can unlockable bundles even do the same fixes as the regular cc bundles?

[gentle rose]

what do you mean?

[exotic token]

custom bundles apply a map patch to a certain area after completion

But would that be enough to remove the boulder, fix the bus, etc?

[gentle rose]

what are you trying to do? make a replacement for the community center?

[exotic token]

Basically, I am making the community center able to be used in the joja route. I assume I need custom bundles to replace the old ones.

unless the actual bundles can be placed outside of the community center route?

[autumn tide]

hellooo do tokens work in map tile action things?

[tiny zealot]

if it's content patcher adding stuff to the map (EditMap/MapTiles), yes. if it's in the tmx itself, no

[autumn tide]

gotchaaa okay

[lucid iron]

You want people to complete joja form as well as the cc to unlock stuff?

That one's gonna be difficult without some C#

[exotic token]

Well, they could do either

is the point.

[lucid iron]

Well in that case it shouldn't really matter to you right

They would complete the cc/joja form

And then you apply your cc/joja coexist stuff

[exotic token]

hmm

would refurbished community center be the entirety of it finished then?

[rose sequoia]

can I reload my mod without having to relaunch the entire game ?

[brittle pasture]

!reload

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

• Content Patcher pack: enter patch reload <your_mod_id> in the SMAPI console window. This will reload and reapply all your patches (but won't recalculate the ConfigSchema or DynamicToken sections if you use them).
• Translation files: enter reload_i18n in the SMAPI console window. If it's for a Content Patcher pack, also run patch reload afterwards.
• C#: see the Visual Studio hot reload or Rider hot reload feature.

To use this command, type !reload.

[rose sequoia]

yaayyyyy

thx

[obtuse wigeon]

(if it's a fashion sense mod, it has it's own command too, available in the FS docs)

[lucid iron]

I think that's a lot easier than messing with individual stages

Basically just treat 2 different flags as the same thing for purpose of your mod

[rose sequoia]

im using content patcher

i added warp to my new room but now gus apparently used it and went locked in the room

is there a way to prevent npcs to use the warp ?

[lucid iron]

Try using a TouchAction warp

[rose sequoia]

found this also i'll try both

[calm nebula]

Fwiw this is usually caused by some random warp you forgot about hanging around

[rose sequoia]

yeah but i saw him go trough the door and i dont want him to go in the room at all

added a NoPath property in the end

[calm nebula]

He wont do that if that is a dead end

You have a warp from that room to somewhere else

[rose sequoia]

i have a warp back to the saloon ?

[elfin palm]

does anyone have frame by frame sprites of the farmer's sword attack animation? (and no, i'm not talking about the eldritch horror that is the farmer's sprite sheet)

[urban patrol]

how are you trying to animate the farmer? i can warn you now, trying to have the farmer swing a sword in an event doesn’t work

[elfin palm]

its for an npc mod, I'm trying to mimic the farmer's sword swing animation

[urban patrol]

carry on

[elfin palm]

at the moment, I'm cleaning up screenshots from a video of someone playing stardew but I figured this discord could be my best shot of having a clean version of it instead of jury rigging it 😭

[urban patrol]

i think someone has made an overlay of farmer + clothes + limbs before but i wouldn’t be able to point you to it

[lucid iron]

It's rotations

The sord item is rotate and there's some tas from tilesheet animations iirc

For npc it's better if u just not think about how farmer do it

[elfin palm]

i guess you're right 😭 it probably just matters if i have the same amount of frames

[urban patrol]

i’ve got a guy swinging a cricket bat if you want to look at that?

probably similar ish movement

[elfin palm]

sure

[tiny zealot]

abigail has two frames that get used for "swing a sword" in her 14-heart event

[versed wyvern]

Those look more like punches, though

[elfin palm]

this npc I believe is going to be able to accompany the player in the mine (it's a commission, I'm not the programmer just the artist haha) so I'm making versions with no effects, with their magic effect and with a special sword

[lucid iron]

Do you know what is the framework? It could affect what sprites you need and in what shape

[fervent horizon]

random question, can you use any item type in a crafting recipe or is it just (O) and (BC)? Like can you use a hat?

[lucid iron]

You can make a hat in crafting but i dunno about consuming hat (wanna say yes but syntax may be cursed)

[elfin palm]

not sure, I do know I'm allowed to go outside the 16x32 box for some animations though! (up to 32x48)

[fervent horizon]

I know you can make a hat, but can you use a hat as an ingredient

I am thinking no, but the wiki is vague

[lucid iron]

The reason why I bring it up is cus if it is trinket tinker then you are allowed to pull temporary animated sprites directly so that only movement is needed

Can also probably do the sord directly as a rotation on a sord sprite (but drawing it is cooler)

[fervent horizon]

Another curiosity question, when you are editing your mod code, are you typically editing in your games mod folder, or do you have a second working folder and copy the code over to mod folder to test it?

[lucid iron]

I symlink my mod over

That's just cus I usually have version control though

[brittle pasture]

it should work if you use the full id

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6786 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1446552161675903066)

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/d449970ef87b272ddb4b7ed305935fbb9d4fc402/githooks/pre-commit#L10

[tiny zealot]

i have a whole working directory tree and i use make (and dotnet build) to install my mods into the Mods folder

[lucid iron]

Why hath thou quoteth mine word

[patent lance]

New quote added by head_in_the_cl0uds as #6787 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1446552781120082013)

[autumn tide]

[calm nebula]

I like how the programmers have different ways to handle this problem

[versed wyvern]

On that subject would there happen to be any known examples of mods using Trinket Tinker to make a combat companion?

[tiny zealot]

new ostrich mod innit https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/39889

[fervent horizon]

Just trying to figure out the best way to periodically update the installed mods ids on my extension. Right now it updates when a file is opened, but updating with every save got to be very strobing with the window reloads

[lucid iron]

A combat trinket is just a trinket that has either Hitscan or Projectile abilities

All the flavoring comes in with the animation systems

The hatsnatcher cat has pretty good example how how to connect the two https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29509

[tiny zealot]

ah, if it's for your VSC extension, then you can safely ignore my workflow, since i use barebones text editors

[lucid iron]

S&S keychains too like the pepper rex that shoot fire

[fervent horizon]

But, your workflow may match others

[versed wyvern]

Yeah but I was just meaning if anyone had actually finished such a mod, last I looked at it the systems seemed highly robust but also highly complicated

[lucid iron]

Yes i may have forgotten most people aren't programmers when i designed all that

[tiny zealot]

biiiiiiig mood

[lucid iron]

There's also https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/39804

Those have attacc

[tiny zealot]

(i made font smasher, and a mod that uses it. the only other person yet to publish a mod using it copied and edited my mod)

[lucid iron]

But yeah I think the ability system in trinket tinker is not actually more complicated than like

Data/TriggerActions

You can think of it as trigger actions that only does stuff when trinket equipped

[versed wyvern]

The docs are understandable I think, but there's just a whole lot to keep track of

[lucid iron]

Always rmbr that there r like 100 knobs but most are optional

When I do trinkets myself I usually just start with 1 Variant 1 Motion so that I get something visible into game first

Regarding combat though I feel there's just not enough stuff you can do besides "more damage"

[gray bear]

-# B?

[fervent horizon]

By the way, Chu, I am almost done with auto complete helpers for recipes

[lucid iron]

That's why I never really expand this beyond you can hit stuff and at different timing now

[fervent horizon]

basically it will give you a generic skeleton and then pop up helpers at the spots you need

I wish recipes were on the de-stringifying list for 1.7

[versed wyvern]

Combat pretty much needs to be more difficult to have much room for more complex effects, I reckon

[tiny zealot]

well, they may be yet. 1.7 is not soon

[fervent horizon]

That's true, I'm just going off the wiki, but they could be since almost all the other still string places are getting overhauled

[tiny zealot]

yeah stardew's combat is too shallow to support anything complicated

[versed wyvern]

Most I can think of for a party member to do would be buffing the player and debuffing enemies like slowing them down

[blissful panther]

#1387907186713301072 message

Not a hard definite thing, but it's at least under consideration.

[fervent horizon]

Oh, awesome that it is at least past the that's a neat idea phase

[lucid iron]

Debuffing enemies is the difficult one here, there isn't a debuff system really

Hence why only stun is implemented by reusing ice rod stuff

(I feel like i probably wrote the same thing months ago in a nexus comment lol, hasn't really changed)

[versed wyvern]

Yeah I'd imagine nothing's really changed since a lot of that kind of stuff is still really hard-coded and has no frameworks to expand them

[lucid iron]

A monster framework would be cool (rip MTF)

Maybe after 1.7

[versed wyvern]

[lucid iron]

Buffing the player is quite straightforward tho

Like the dust spirit that buffs you on breaking a rock

[sleek aurora]

I just can't make this code work. If I put "ObjectInternalName": "Seasonings Butter ({0}{1})", then the objects are not accepted by the machine. If you put "ObjectInternalName": "Seasonings Butter ({0,1})", then only one flavored is displayed.
https://smapi.io/json/none/22ab837e7d7145f1adf3672a2f9ea9e8

[versed wyvern]

Too bad we can't just apply existing (de)buff effects to enemies, the Slimed and Defense Down debuffs would have sufficed

[lucid iron]

It may be possible to do something about the speed

Defense is a little weird because some mods intentionally make unkillable enemies by giving them 99999 def

[versed wyvern]

Also, would the frog's insta-kill effect happen to be available for use in there?

[lucid iron]

Nope, mainly because idk how to define the animation

[fervent horizon]

Yeah, looks like big changes to monsters coming in 1.7

[lucid iron]

Effect wise it's kind of not different than a large damage with long cooldown tho

[brittle pasture]

{0} and {1}

[lucid iron]

So you could do it like

1. Large hit + long cd
2. Procs a long anim clip on hit

It is the tongue part that is too ??? to genericfy

[versed wyvern]

Oh is the tongue hard fused to the effect

[lucid iron]

The vanilla frog tongue is drawn in code

It's a dynamically shaped line

[brittle pasture]

also I just discovered I never actually included what the i18n text looks like in my examples and have been leaving that as an exercise to the reader, so uh sorry for that

[lucid iron]

There's some other jank related like how the monster is "alive" but on a netref on the froge until the froge digests

[versed wyvern]

Ah, oof. I was just figuring that instant kill effects should maintain the frog behavior of just instantly deleting the enemy and not giving you the drop

[lucid iron]

It is all around specific c# bullshit

Ah so the missing effect piece would be item drop redirection

I did do some of that for forage so I am open to doing it for monster drops sure

[sleek aurora]

If I put "ObjectInternalName" like this: "Seasonings Butter ({0} and {1})", then there are a lot of errors. https://smapi.io/json/none/9a9dcd2949054997a1a809123b360d05

[versed wyvern]

Mm, although, it's also a niche enough effect and enough people disliked the frog for not giving you drops that maybe it's not worth the work

[lucid iron]

Well it has other applications

Like automatically redirecting drops to a trinket's inventory

There's just currently a mode where it redirects harvested forage to /dev/null

[brittle pasture]

the internal name only uses {0} for the main flavor
you use PRESERVE_ID_1 for the extra flavor

(check the examples on the EMC page)

(the 4 fruit jelly item specifically)

[sleek aurora]

ugh, I figured it out, thank you!

[regal leaf]

Hi! Does anyone know if there is a way to set the chances to obtain a certain farm animal variant when purchasing it? Preferably with Content Patcher, if that's possible.

I want to make a mod adding the pokemon Spheal as a farm animal and tought it would be funny to have a 1/4096 chance to purchase a shiny one, just like in the Pokemon games. 😄

[urban patrol]

you could try taking a look at skins: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Animal_data

[regal leaf]

Oh, I didn’t saw this when I was looking at the wiki! Thanks a lot, I will try this. 😄

[lucid iron]

Are you doing skins or alt purchase type

[autumn tide]

pro tip: use the big puffer ascii art as a page separator in your mod bc just hitting enter a bunch of times is boring

[obtuse wigeon]

I use large comments as seperators to easily find in the preview so this is perfect

[iron ridge]

does vscode support //#region in jsonc?

it adds nice little headers in javascript files

it appears to not :(

[obtuse wigeon]

ahh thats a shame, that would be great!

Mods tend to not include a logo in the mod files right?

[iron ridge]

i think if you add it tohttps://github.com/microsoft/vscode/blob/b4a9be46dc284f79a984306baf7a79bb9512c211/extensions/json/language-configuration.json it might work? (judging by js')

[iron ridge]

most wouldnt yeah