making-mods-general

[soft lance]

sadly cant really or else every user loses their data id assume

[uncut viper]

if you use <nexusId>000# then you will never need to worry about it

[latent mauve]

Depends on the asset, some have support for "FormerName"

[urban patrol]

for things like NPCs and locations there's a previous name field

[soft lance]

Most of what I add is 90% fish, then like a few Basic objects u might catch up, and some quests

[obtuse wigeon]

is there no universal migration system for CP? that seems like something that would be very very useful

[soft lance]

Sadly, im not good enough to know migration yet

it uses SMAPI + Content Patcher

[urban patrol]

migration is something CP does automatically in some cases

such as migrating 1.5 mods into 1.6

(as best it can)

[soft lance]

I meant as in like migrating new UniqueIds to something more unique rather than 3 characters

[obtuse wigeon]

ahh sorry , should've clarified, migration from one ID to a different ID rather than game version migration

[latent mauve]

game version migration is more of a rewrite operation in CP.

[soft lance]

I know for 1.5 to 1.6 there is migration, one mod I use auto-migrates on runtime to it and works still

[obtuse wigeon]

It's not really something that's thought to add until quite a bit later into a games development/mod loader development when it would need a decent re write to be effective

[latent mauve]

Can't easily do it for non-code, though, so things like TMX or TBIN map files would potentially be broken if location names and similar were automatically changed.

[obtuse wigeon]

The CP version migration is absolutely fantastic though, very pleased to have that

[latent mauve]

It's better for the mod author to do it so nothing gets missed.

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh good point, I didn't think about maps

[soft lance]

Is it possible to migrate my UniqueId in my manifest to anotehr name (like LucyTheDove.ASF rather than ASF) without my players losing all their data? My mod only uses Content Patcher to add fish, no furniture or anything added either

[obtuse wigeon]

Not without issues to my knowledge

[soft lance]

quests isnt in the mod yet either, its in 1.1, which isnt released yet

[soft lance]

ahh

well its okay in the far future i can look into it

[uncut viper]

content patcher has an id migration trigger action

[obtuse wigeon]

Oooo good to know

[grand badge]

thank you

[latent mauve]

Here's the migrateIds page: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/trigger-actions.md

I had to find it

[soft lance]

thank you!

[latent mauve]

and Items are a supported type

[urban patrol]

that's super useful omg

this means i can fix all my previous event forks that didn't have my mod id

[soft lance]

Would it be alright if you can check your DMs if it's okay? Nothing question related 🙏

[soft lance]

it is lol

[soft lance]

:0

For GarbageCans, as hiliarious as it is to state, how do these MoveEntries work? This is for pre-existing cans, and I didnt want to overwrite data, however, how do we know what the BeforeId is? Just a little vague for me to understand, unless you know what it is

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh it supports Buildings too?? omg thats exactly what I need! I really didn't want to write C# to do it, Pathos is truly a blessing to the community

[latent mauve]

if you look at the unpacked data in Data/GarbageCans, the IDs added by the original game are there.

BeforeId in MoveEntries is the entry you want to put yours before.

[soft lance]

How do I know for mods that add? Like SVE? Can I just patch export Data/GarbageCans to check it out rq?

[latent mauve]

yep

[uncut viper]

chu did that actually

[soft lance]

awesome i'll try that

[obtuse wigeon]

In that case, Chu is also a blessing to the community! (I did look at gitblame but only saw pathos listed there, but that's for the docs itself)

[latent mauve]

You can also just use "ToPosition": "Top" instead of BeforeId if you just want to be first.

[uncut viper]

chu might've just forgotten the docs I assume
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/pull/1148

[soft lance]

That's probably better, since many mods can alter it. Now, what's the difference if its at the top or bottom? Does it change the %?

[latent mauve]

It matters for entries that check the top first for a match and then stop looking once it finds one (like the Appearances system, or MovieReactions)

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohh it's a CP 2.8.0 feature, that may be why I struggled to find it previously as it was still somewhat new ty!

[uncut viper]

(im not ignoring this I'm just on mobile right now so I'll reply when I'm back at my desk)

[soft lance]

For my case where I just want to add some extra items to garbage cans is it worth putting it at the top? Or just let it go in anywhere

since thats all im gonna do, if not needed then I'd assume I can just remove the "MoveEntries" entirely

[uncut viper]

you mean you don't memorize CP patch notes? Smh

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't, truly a detriment to all XD (I'm actually guilty of not looking at many patch notes at all until I notice issues)

[soft lance]

I memorize (to an extent) KDE Plasma patch notes and Proton patch notes (Linux desktop environment, and Linux .exe compatibility library, also known as Wine)

[uncut viper]

as long as you read them before submitting bug reports on my mods before realizing you have an outdated version

[soft lance]

otherwise, my brain is a goldfish

[latent mauve]

if you don't need your new items to take priority and are good with them having an equal chance of spawning, then you probably don't need the MoveEntries part for this.

They'll already be in Items with the TargetField, so they will spawn at the same chance as the other Items unless you impose a Condition that changes that.

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh ye patch notes and changelogs are always read before submitting bug reports, and previous bugs reports are read too, mostly bc I am impatient and it's so much quicker to see it in them rather than waiting for someone to reply XD it's like a mutually beneficial situation

[grand badge]

did i do the fashion sence sprites right?

any feedback?

[latent mauve]

Have you already seen the Fashion Sense github and the example packs? They might help you a bit more with how the sprites should be oriented.

https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/tree/development/FashionSense/Examples/[FS] Example Pack

[grand badge]

i used a template from it

[latent mauve]

If you used a template from it, and your JSON matches what was provided with the template for positions, you should probably be fine?

[grand badge]

the overalls covered some of the top so idk if above the shirt is correct

[grand badge]

what about files paths?

i got a error for my mod
- Squid Sisters tops 6.7.0 because its manifest declares ContentPackFor without its required UniqueID field.

[latent mauve]

Then your manifest.json file is missing something, put it in the JSON validator and share the link?

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[grand badge]

unique id is there twice

[latent mauve]

ContentPackFor is not meant for your Unique ID, it's Fashion Sense's uniqueID

[grand badge]

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/0388abd939c34e06991ff3e5c5f73602

[grand badge]

oh

[latent mauve]

https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/tree/development/FashionSense/Examples/[FS] Example Pack

The manifest.json in there is the example you should be following

[grand badge]

thank you

didnt know the 2nd one was needed

[latent mauve]

ContentPackFor is basically telling SMAPI what framework your mod is using to run. In your case, that's Fashion Sense. 🙂

[grand badge]

anyway to make the sleves transparent

and well a good bit of it

so it shows skin

like i dont want the top to go past what i have colored in

[latent mauve]

I think you would need to remove the gray pixels where you wanted it to be transparent? As for sleeves, I believe you can add a HideSleeves field to the Shirt.

The Fashion Sense wiki can probably help answer a lot of your questions: https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/wiki/Shirt-Model-Properties

(you can also try using SkinToneMasks for the "top" of your shirt if you want the neckline to show skin above it)

[grand badge]

thanks

ill test that out now

[grand badge]

do i add that to the json or the manifest

or is it an in game thing

[latent mauve]

Your manifest should never have anything more than what was shown in the example.

[grand badge]

ok

[latent mauve]

I haven't messed with Fashion Sense myself to make a pack, I only know what I've seen from the wiki and other folks putting them together.

So the wiki is a better resource in that regard

[grand badge]

thanks for the help

doesnt really say how to disable it

[latent mauve]

"HideSleeves": true,

If you don't have that in your shirt entry, it assumes you want the sleeves visible.

[grand badge]

thanks

[ocean sail]

@grand badge You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[latent mauve]

Put your JSON in the validator using the link from earlier, and see what line it has a problem with. Usually you've missed a comma somewhere, or didn't properly close something in the right spot with a }.

[grand badge]

i fixed that just there

one problem is the sleeve is still there

and the arms are invisible from behind

[jaunty shuttle]

Arms? Who needs arms

[hallow prism]

Someone wanting to eat chocolate

[obtuse wigeon]

depends how much you want chocolate, diving headfirst into a chocolate bowl may not be the most graceful, but certainly is effective

[patent lance]

New quote added by head_in_the_cl0uds as #6766 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1442301806758592624)

[autumn tide]

hey! does the specifc name for the ids of movie reactions matter?

highlighted the area to be specific

[uncut viper]

no, so long as its unique

[autumn tide]

gotcha! so, if I'm overriding krobus's movie reactions, the specific ID shouldn't matter?

[uncut viper]

it shouldnt, no

unless some other mod out there is trying to edit it

[autumn tide]

gotcha, thank you so much :)

[autumn tide]

okay- would this be the right way to edit Krobus's movie tastes? little lost here lol

OH and i can put the json

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[autumn tide]

https://smapi.io/json/none/9124a3cff0204f1a996de5bbe101e09f

[brave fable]

i believe you also need to use your Id value as the key to that entry

i.e. "Entries": { "reaction_documentary": { ... } }

[loud sandal]

Hi, would anyone know the best place to share my mod on this discord?

[brave fable]

unfortunately you're now trapped in a loop most people share mods in #modded-stardew

i think the other person pointed you here thinking you needed help making it hahah

[autumn tide]

hmm still a little confused lol, could you please elaborate?

[brave fable]

usual server rules apply, no nsfw content, no ai-generated code or content, no stolen content, etc

Entries is a {} dictionary (aka. model, map) and so it expects key-value pairs (e.g. "key": "value", "key": { "field": "egg" }), hence the error that it's only found a value without a key (Invalid property identifier character: {)

[autumn tide]

hmmm okay

[cedar turtle]

Does someone happen to know if there's a quick way to reload a FS pack in game? I don't want to restart because I adjusted a few pixels xD

[brave fable]

!reload ?

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

• Content Patcher pack: enter patch reload <your_mod_id> in the SMAPI console window. This will reload and reapply all your patches (but won't recalculate the ConfigSchema or DynamicToken sections if you use them).
• Translation files: enter reload_i18n in the SMAPI console window. If it's for a Content Patcher pack, also run patch reload afterwards.
• C#: see the Visual Studio hot reload or Rider hot reload feature.

To use this command, type !reload.

[brave fable]

hm

[autumn tide]

oh i think there is!

[brave fable]

if you type help in the console does it mention a fs_reload or somesuch command?

[autumn tide]

i remember someone mentioning that lol

[brave fable]

CP sidesteps this issue when editing some data models with lists of object values by having you provide a key equal to the Id field in the value

[cedar turtle]

There is indeed. I keep forgetting that command exists

I assume I need to use it with the modID

[brave fable]

it'll be explained in the console

[autumn tide]

hmmm okay, i think i got it, so just add a key (that has the same value as the ID) before the first set of curly brackets?

[brave fable]

yep, example here:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#edit-a-list

[autumn tide]

ty!!!

[cedar turtle]

hm.. I guess it doesn't do sprites.. SMAPI said loading Data but nothing changed visually. Name and such did update though

[brave fable]

my fs tech support ends here since i've never really used it 🙂‍↕️

[cedar turtle]

All good. I'm just gonna restart with a minimum modlist xD

[obtuse wigeon]

fs_reload should reload sprites too? I've used it when making my own fs pack before and I don't remember needing to restart every time, you may need to reapply it with the mirror but I'm not 100% certain

[ornate trellis]

yeah fs_reload is reloading all content packs you have

[cedar turtle]

Didn't work for me

[ornate trellis]

heres the wiki page for it btw https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/wiki/SMAPI-Commands#reloading

[cedar turtle]

But I specifically mentioned my pack

[brave fable]

did you not save over the sprite in your in-use mods folder

[cedar turtle]

I did. Maybe I was just being dumb

[ornate trellis]

theres no mention of being able to just reload one pack tho, did you use just that command or try with your id

[cedar turtle]

fs_reload modID

Maybe that was the mistake

[obtuse wigeon]

Ye it looks like it takes no args

there is also fs_reload_continuous which reloads packs every 2 seconds, you can use the command again to stop the reloading

[cedar turtle]

I see, thanks!

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh wait hang on I was wrong it does take unique IDs, my bad sorry!, fs_reload [manifest_unique_id]

[ornate trellis]

inch resting

[brave fable]

either way i doubt it would fail if you did provide args to a method that didn't expect any args, since it wouldn't be trying/failing to parse anything

it'd simply do everything or nothing

[cedar turtle]

I did get some warning messages about another pack. So I guess I just did something wrong here.

[full trellis]

Hi! I have never modded Stardew ever and I'm trying to edit the "Morris Redeemed (NPC Expansion)" for personal use so I can use the " Seasonal Cute Characters SVE" seasonal portraits and sprites with it. Is this the best channel to ask for help with this? If not, where do I ask for help?

[cedar turtle]

Random question.. Considering it's handled in the manifest.json..
Can you make another mod as a dependency for a FS pack?

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't see why it wouldn't work because the dependancy loading is handled by SMAPI right?

[brave fable]

sure, dependencies are handled by SMAPI and can be any mod ID other than the current or any mods depending on it

[cedar turtle]

That's what I thought as well, thanks!

[brave fable]

or you could make it not another mod and just some garbage and have your mod never load if you like

[lucid iron]

does it actually mean anything for a FS mod to be dependent on something else though

[uncut viper]

(this would be the place if you're editing the mod yaya)

[obtuse wigeon]

Yep this is the best channel to ask, as long as it's for personal use and not uploaded unless you have both mod authors permissions

[lucid iron]

my confusion comes from not being sure what FS can reference from content

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't think FS does reference anything from content? I know it exposes stuff to content patcher but that's different

[brave fable]

i'm quite sure FS only uses local files from the content pack

unfortunately/infuriatingly

[full trellis]

Cool! It’s 100% for personal use. I know how to replace the portrait and sprite pictures that’s easy enough. I have no idea how to make it seasonal or where to add the code in the content.json file

[cedar turtle]

hm..

[obtuse wigeon]

to make it seasonal I think the best way would be to add {{Season}} in the file name in the "FromFile" field and rename the png files to have Spring, Summer, Fall, and Winter where the {{Season}} token is

[lucid iron]

is the morris from morris redeemed a NPC?

separate from the original morris stub

[obtuse wigeon]

I think so, he is marriagable in the mod, unless you go the joja route so I would assume hes a seperate NPC from vanilla Morris (just checking to be sure)

Yes, different NPC to vanilla (Si_MR_Morris)

[lucid iron]

could maybe do appearance data on him then

[autumn tide]

back again lol, does the $query thing work in movie response dialog? as in the stuff that shows while you are in the theater with the character

[cedar turtle]

ok, now it does update the sprite.. weird

[full trellis]

Does this make it automatically seasonal or manually seasonal?

[obtuse wigeon]

if the token is used, it would be automatic, Content Patcher automatically replaces {{Season}} with the actual season (you may have to check the capitalisation because I'm not sure if I got it right, always assume capitalisation matters)

[full trellis]

Gotcha! I'll try it right now, thank you!

[vernal crest]

Is that normal dialogue that's set in the dialogue asset?

[autumn tide]

no, it would usually be in strings/MovieReactions

probably not then?

[vernal crest]

Possibly not but easy to check, yes?

[autumn tide]

fair enough!

I'll do that... eventually

[tiny zealot]

hey friends, i'm looking for input on my pending update to Font Smasher.
i'm adding the ability to set colors for the sprite fonts (see picture: sprite fonts not matching the interface) because the vanilla colors are hardcoded. the question is: is it worthwhile to allow different color sets for the two sizes of spritefont?
allowing them to be defined separately is strictly more flexible, which makes me want to do it, but i'm not sure it's useful, and if it's not useful then it makes slightly more work for modders. would anyone ever use this feature, or should i just make them global and shared?

[obtuse wigeon]

Oooo I would love this! big fan of maximum customizability

[autumn tide]

yesss that sounds so cool

[vernal crest]

Yesss separate definitions

[tiny zealot]

noted. thanks, everyone!

[uncut viper]

also putting my vote towards separate definitions

wow i saw that /lh

[grand badge]

Anychance anyone knows how to fix the invisible arms and hands when I walk from behind in fashion sense?

[heavy pewter]

What are the limitations of BETAS Harmony Patching? cuz that's what I'm studying next

[uncut viper]

quick question: why

[lucid iron]

Please dont :)

Ichor for font smasher can UI mods tell you what colors?

[tiny zealot]

yeah, just a few lines of EditData

[heavy pewter]

Imma try to intercept the StardewValley.Mobile.VirtualJoypad

And maybe do some postfix patch

If I did successfully intercepted it

[uncut viper]

you wont be able to detect what button was pressed

BETAS harmony wont let you act differently depending on the result of a function

nor can it stop a function from running like a regular C# mod can with a skipping prefix

[lucid iron]

i think learning C# is literally easier for what you wanna do

[digital herald]

C# is pretty easy to understand, the hard part for me is all the boiler template, type you need to manage.

[heavy pewter]

That's sad, my actual goal is to be able to hold the virtual button when planting seeds or putting items in machine in android. I successfully located which DLL holds the virtual buttons in android, but when Im about to make the dream mod, my GitHub CodeSpace free hours was already used lmao, so I can't access my CodeSpace until Nov 29, that's why I'm in the CP packs for now

[brittle pasture]

whatever codespace does you don't need it to develop C# mods

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm pretty sure there will be alternative online editors if you're using it bc coding on a mobile device that can build C#

[brave fable]

imo c# is quite light on the boilerplate, there's a lot of modern conveniences in it these days

[narrow owl]

is there a page on how to use GMCM

[brittle pasture]

are you making a content pack or a C# mod?
this page for adding configs to content packs (which will work with GMCM), or this page for the C# API

[narrow owl]

content patcher

ty

[sleek igloo]

I've asked about adding alternate purchase types for custom animals and also skins, but I'm not sure how to go about adding a new alternate purchase type for an existing animal with vanilla variations-

specifically, I'm trying to figure out how to add a new cow with it's own milk type to the cows

[brittle pasture]

targetfield is your friend

in this case the White Cow is the 'parent' entry

you can either add it to the Default entry's AnimalIds field, or make a new entry if it has conditions associated with it (in which case you'll also need MoveEntries to move the entry up so it gets checked before the unconditional Default entry)

[sleek igloo]

conditions meaning like if it's only available after owning a certain barn as an example?

[brittle pasture]

like how Blue Chickens are only available after seeing Shane's 8 heart event

[sleek igloo]

ahhh right

I have never actually unlocked blue chickens afshiqwefh

[narrow owl]

same fuck that drunk bitch

he aint gettin my help

[sleek igloo]

weifhewifh I mean I just generally havent seen any content beyond like 1.2 fwefh

I never get far enough

[brittle pasture]

btw you should add carrots to the game, it's a very staple crop that I feel like is what is missing from the game. maybe broccoli too

[narrow owl]

r we fr\

[sleek igloo]

ok I'm still a modder though 😂 Nice try tho haha

[narrow owl]

llmao

what mods u make?

[sleek igloo]

uh a fair few, khadija's recipe shop, artisanal soda makers, spanish revival buildings

[narrow owl]

cool

[tight rivet]

Clearly we should make the ultimate mod - the final mod. Sekiha-runs

runs faster

[sleek igloo]

sak is ded

[tight rivet]

Poor Sak. Barely alive, and now she is a dead plush.

[sleek igloo]

but was that not already her true form

[tight rivet]

undead plush aer typically not allowed in most places.

(okay, to be clear, the joke comes from here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTZ_fIKL0KM )

[narrow owl]

hey quick question if i reskinned pierre to trash would u download it?

[sleek igloo]

hmm unlikely, I'm an aesthetic ocd player 😅

[tight rivet]

I use the Piper mod

[sleek igloo]

I also dont really talk to the npcs

hence no blue chickens LOL

[tight rivet]

which reminds me, I need to make that patch of like nine thousand other mods that assume it's still Pierre, lol

[narrow owl]

i ask this bcoz there is a subreddit called r/fuckpierre

[patent lance]

https://reddit.com/r/fuckpierre

[sleek igloo]

oh pierre sucks

[narrow owl]

fr

[sleek igloo]

but I just ignore him lol

he's just the seed man to me

[tight rivet]

I mean, to be fair, I'd be stressed and acting out too if my competition is Joja Supermarket

[narrow owl]

yeah but after u defeat joja he no change

[tight rivet]

I mean, no.

i didn't say he was perfect, but

[sleek igloo]

            "LogName": "Edit Vanilla Cows",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
            "TargetField": ["White Cow"],
            "Entries": {
                "AlternatePurchaseTypes": [
                      {
                        "Condition": null,
                        "AnimalIds": [
                          "Strawberry Cow"
                        ]
                      }
                    ],
            }
        },
        {
            "LogName": "Add Strawberry Cows",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
                "Strawberry Cow": {
                    "DisplayName": "Strawberry Cow",
                    "House": "Barn",
                    "Gender": "Female",
                    "PurchasePrice": -1,``` would this work for a basic patch? I'm using the strawberry cow mod to test the method

[brittle pasture]

no, that's wiping the existing entry

[sleek igloo]

ack ok

[brittle pasture]

drill into AlternatePurchaseTypes as well

and since it doesn't look like you have conditions, feel free to drill deeper into into the Default entry > AnimalIds field

[sleek igloo]

I figured I'd do an easy version first

[raw oxide]

!converter

[brave fable]

(of all the json terminology, somehow drilling is the strangest of them all to me. more than nesting in a dictionary.)

!converters

[ocean sail]

These community tools help update mods to newer formats or frameworks:

• Convert to Content Patcher from Custom Furniture, Better Farm Animal Variety (BFAV), Custom Music, JSON Assets, More than Necessary (MTN), SAAT, Shop Tile Framework (STF), TMXLoader, or XNB.
• Convert to other frameworks:
  • Pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
  • Visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
  • Hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
  • Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
  • Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Other tools:
  • Extract i18n for a Content Patcher pack
  • Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
  • Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode

To use this command, type !converters.

[raw oxide]

thanks

[uncut viper]

do you have something else you'd prefer to call it

[brave fable]

spelunking makes as much sense as drilling and carries a far greater air of whimsy

[sleek igloo]

oh i didn't know drilling was a json term

[lucid iron]

Breadcrumbing

[sleek igloo]

i thought you were telling me to study fwehfioew

[uncut viper]

i would argue the deeper structure of the json is inaccessible until you crack the walls down, and thus you cannot spelunk without first drilling

drilling = drilling down = going deeper into the nested json via targetfield so you dont overwrite things

[brave fable]

demolishing it is

[sleek igloo]

ahhh thanks!

[brittle pasture]

I had used the burgers analogy before, so I hereby propose drilling -> biting into the burger

[uncut viper]

i vehemently refuse the burger analogy

[brittle pasture]

"what you're doing right now is eating the entire burger even though you only want to remove the pickles"

[brave fable]

'drilling' as used for TargetField specifically:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#format

[uncut viper]

also blueberry consider this: if you rotate a giant json object 90 degrees clockwise onto its side, it makes the shape of a drill

[obtuse wigeon]

I mean, diving is also a valid term, dealing with json often feel like you're drowning in different brackets

[brave fable]

i veto diving in favour of delving

[sleek igloo]

why is no one using russian dolls

[uncut viper]

that would imply identical copies of the outer structure found within

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh delving is a good word

[sleek igloo]

but they're not identical, they're smaller

and some russian dolls have different appearances too

[uncut viper]

every matryoshka doll ive seen has typically been an identical but smaller copy on the inside

[obtuse wigeon]

you have seen some very boring ones in that case XD

[sleek igloo]

I've seen a couple of cute ones with variation

I havent seen enough to say which is more accurate lol

[brave fable]

but the child doll is still derived from its parent, whereas json objects aren't necessarily

[urban patrol]

i had one as a kid that went grandma>mom>baby etc through liike 5 generations

[uncut viper]

i also googled it just now and see most of them are identical copies. im doing modding research

[sleek igloo]

fair

[brave fable]

in light of new evidence i propose nosing and stickybeaking

[uncut viper]

also the nested json doesnt have the same structure as the outer json

[sleek igloo]

stickybeaking made me snort

[uncut viper]

why dont we call it digging too greedily, and too deep

[obtuse wigeon]

pardon you XD

I mean, digging implies the removal of material, which you really don't want to do with json lest you get a very angry console

[uncut viper]

its not removed, simply moved elsewhere

[brave fable]

so too does drilling imply that the outer json is ground into a fine powder

[uncut viper]

im mortar and pestling my json into an herbal remedy

[brave fable]

many have come to this channel confused, expecting the rest of pierre to be completely powderised

[sleek igloo]

this is what drilling means is then? "TargetField": ["White Cow", "AlternatePurchaseTypes"],

[uncut viper]

yep

[brave fable]

all that is left being a lone gift taste

[uncut viper]

you are drilling down into the AlternatePurchaseTypes level of indentation

which has now become top-level as a result

or rathere verything in it is now top level

(if you wanna question terminology, why is it called top level when its clearly on the far left?)

[sleek igloo]

my brain doesn't like this hdeifh

[brave fable]

well that's just a fault of the presentation. you may as well ask why a binary tree doesn't always grow upwards

[uncut viper]

unfortunately unlike before, me calling it top level is not a joke but also the actual term used

[obtuse wigeon]

Prospecting is also a quite valid term, that doesn't imply removal of material, and it implies search for something specific

[uncut viper]

i would ask this yes. but if we're okay with rotating 90 degrees then i go back to my drill shape comment

[sleek igloo]

Do I just continue the Entry like normal after?

[uncut viper]

you do!

or Fields, as appropriate

[brave fable]

all the more support for delving and nosing

[uncut viper]

just now the entry key you use would be found inside AlternatePurchaseTypes, not outside in the rest of the outer animal data

[obtuse wigeon]

question, by nosing do you mean "nosing around" as in searching, or nosing as in a rounded thing like the nosing of a rocket

[uncut viper]

and since AlternatePurchaseTypes is a list of objects, you'd use the Id as the entry key, same as you would for adding a new item to Data/Objects

(or editing an existing item)

[sleek igloo]

what do you mean by entry key? Sorry I'm not very familiar with this newfangled CP stuff, it doesn't mesh well with my way of thinking

[brave fable]

nosing in the context of a pig searching for truffles (truffling is apparently not a verb but rightly should be to avoid situations like this)

[lucid iron]

(this is where I get on my soapbox about are you sure you want to do alt purchase)

[sleek igloo]

yes because i want a different milk type

otherwise I'd do a skin

[lucid iron]

Just add new

[obtuse wigeon]

I am in favour of nosing in that case

[uncut viper]

"Entries": {
  "{{ModId}}_MyAnimalSkin": { // <--- The Entry key
    ...
  }
}

[lucid iron]

It's more clear to the player if it's a new cow imo

[sleek igloo]

But I want the cows to be all listed together

this is just a personal edit though

[brave fable]

fortunately the > shape of an indented json file does also look like the nosing of a rocket

[sleek igloo]

I'm practicing the method

[lucid iron]

Then sure i shall put the soap box away

[sleek igloo]

the actual "mod" I'm doing is just a set of templates

that's why I keep asking for specific use cases 😅

you're right though chu, it is easier to understand as a separate entry

I just wanna know how to do it

[obtuse wigeon]

so does the general shape of a json, unless you exit out a block in which case it would be ᓬ but mirrored

[uncut viper]

to more accurately describe what an entry key is:
despite AlternatePurchaseTypes being a List of objects, in order to edit it with CP you must still treat it as a Dictionary, where strings are the keys and the data you're creating is the value. Thus, your "Entry key" is what string you are using for your dictionary key under your "Entries" line, and it should correspond to the "Id" field found within your data trhat you're adding/editing

[sleek igloo]

[brittle pasture]

also don't forget that AlternatePurchaseTypes pick the first eligible entry, so once you add your entry you'll need to

• use MoveEntries to move it to the top so the game doesn't just pick the default entry over yours
• add a condition (like RANDOM 0.33) so the game doesn't just always pick your entry over the default

[uncut viper]

do you have an understanding of what a dictionary is for that to have made sense

[sleek igloo]

I feel like I might have... 5 years ago

[brittle pasture]

or just drill into Default tbh

[sleek igloo]

I'm not sure what you mean by default in this case

(I wasn't bothering with condition because I was using livestock bazaar)

[uncut viper]

byway of example, here is a string to integer dictionary:

"String1": 15,
"secondstring": 19,
"aaaa": 0

each string (the key, which must be unique) corresponds to a value (in this case, a number)
in your case, the value just happens to be another chunk of stuff between two { } instead of a number

[sleek igloo]

I hadn't even considered it tbh

[brittle pasture]

(to reduce confusion ignore me for now, I shall continue once you have some code I can give further feedback)

[sleek igloo]

thanks selph

[sleek igloo]

Oh yeah I remember the string and value thing!

integer dictionary because it's a number value?

[uncut viper]

yup

usually called a "string to int" dictionary, of the form "<key type> to <value type>"

[sleek igloo]

I think you lost me again sadhehf

why the < >

[uncut viper]

theyre placeholders

its called "string to int" because the key type is strings and the value type is numbers (integers specifically)

if the key type was strings but the value was true/false then it'd be a "string to bool" dictionary (bool -> boolean -> true/false)

just letting you know the way people usually call dictionaries bc theyre not always going to be strings or numbers

[sleek igloo]

I kind of get it

that helped, thanks!

[digital herald]

Do you know where I can see the code for type Farmer in Stardew Valley C#?

[urban patrol]

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[digital herald]

Thank you! That made a lot of sense, my grep only returns binary matching.

[brave fable]

after decompiling and exporting, you can quickly navigate through the solution in VS with Ctrl+T, the top search bar, or the solution explorer

you can also use the unlabeled cross-arrows icon in the solution explorer to highlight your current file, which occasionally comes in handy

[digital herald]

i use vim, and my vscode is so slow, I couldnt use it.

So i just grep for everything.

[brave fable]

that aside, i suppose you could also use vscode, but with ctrl+P instead of/in addition to ctrl+T for roughly the same effect

[lucid iron]

some ppl also just search in ilspy

[sleek igloo]

https://smapi.io/json/none/1dcc8240587a41818e64df5986ec7a70

I'm still not sure what the default thing is or if some of the usual entries are unnecessary but would that work for a basic addition?

[brittle pasture]

no; that's not what an alt purchase entry looks like

[uncut viper]

no, because you're adding an entire new animal data inside the alternatepurchasetypes

[sleek igloo]

derp sorry, I forgot to add it

[uncut viper]

(also i can only really verify syntax here, i dont know animal data functionally speaking)

(selph is part animal though and knows things like the back of their hand i hear)

[sleek igloo]

selph is very very helpful <3

everyone here usually is

like this? ```
"LogName": "Load data for Strawberry Cow (Strawberry Cow)",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
"TargetField": ["White Cow", "AlternatePurchaseTypes"],
"Entries": {
"ADStrawberryCow_Strawberry Cow": "Strawberry Cow"
},

[uncut viper]

{
  "Id": "BlueChicken",
  "Condition": "RANDOM 0.25, PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current 3900074",
  "AnimalIds": [
    "Blue Chicken"
  ]
}

this is what one bit of AlternatePurchaseType data looks like, so this is what you need to be adding

[brittle pasture]

still no
if you look at the unpacked files/wiki this is what a typical entry directly under AlternatePurchaseTypes looks lik- see Button's post

[uncut viper]

but with an entry key in front of it ofc

(and obv change whatewver else to match what you want, i doubt you're adding a blue chicken)

[sleek igloo]

I tried to unpack my animal data and it wouldn't unpack for some reason

the images worked, but none of the data

[uncut viper]

well thats a much separate issue that is very critical to solve

[brittle pasture]

are you using StardewXnbHack

[uncut viper]

you will not really go far without a proper unpack, at least not painlessly

[sleek igloo]

I'm using xnbcli, which is what I used in ye olde times

[uncut viper]

step 1: dont

(/lh)

[sleek igloo]

lol

[uncut viper]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

use the one listed on the wiki here

[sleek igloo]

what does /lh mean

[uncut viper]

lighthearted

[sleek igloo]

I'm completely off social media

huh thats new

to me lol

[uncut viper]

as in im not chastizing you or anything when saying "step 1: dont" just take it as a jovial jest

[brave fable]

/jj

[sleek igloo]

just joking?

[brave fable]

no, jovial jest. it's not caught on yet

[obtuse wigeon]

usually things like /s or /lh or /j are tone indicators, heres a list on common used ones if you're unfamiliar: https://toneindicators.carrd.co/#masterlist

[sleek igloo]

guys stop distracting me I will never finish this otherwise 😂

I know what / is

[uncut viper]

you've got time while your files unpack

[sleek igloo]

like /jk

[brittle pasture]

!unpack but yes pls use stardewxnbhack follow instructions here

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brave fable]

you correctly said earlier that we're only useful sometimes 😌

[sleek igloo]

not what I said lol

also not not what I said

[brave fable]

well i'm making it true whether u like it or not

[sleek igloo]

lmao

[digital herald]

Thank you! De-compiled the DLL work!

[fervent horizon]

Curiosity question, should all items use qualified IDs in every field?

Like is that the new standard format

[uncut viper]

yes, except for when they shouldnt

[brittle pasture]

depends; some very rare instances of game data still expects unqualified ids

[brave fable]

not necessarily, all things are handled in different places and in different ways, and the game has legacy/unmodernised code going back a long way

[uncut viper]

if relevant it'll be documented that they expect unqualified

[brittle pasture]

when in doubt check if the wiki tells you to use "qualified or unqualified ID" or just one or the other

[uncut viper]

and if its not documented it likely quickly will be after found out

[fervent horizon]

Cool, I kind of figured that was the case

[brave fable]

the game is nothing if not inconsistent 🤝

[fervent horizon]

I feel that is the curse of forever games like Stardew and Minecraft, and other similar situations

[sleek igloo]

            "LogName": "Add Strawberry Cow to Vanilla Cows",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
            "TargetField": ["White Cow", "AlternatePurchaseTypes"],
            "Entries": {
                "Id": "ADStrawberryCow_StrawberryCow",
                "AnimalIds": [
                  "Strawberry Cow"
                ]
              },
            },``` I copied the blue chicken example but I'm not sure it's right

[brittle pasture]

Entries expect a dictionary of key to values which will be dropped into the drilled in field; right now you don't have an object wrapping your loose fields so you're just dropping them directly into the AlternatePurchaseTypes field

{
            "LogName": "Add Strawberry Cow to Vanilla Cows",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
            "TargetField": ["White Cow", "AlternatePurchaseTypes"],
            "Entries": {
                "ADStrawberryCow_StrawberryCow": {
                  "Id": "ADStrawberryCow_StrawberryCow",
                  "AnimalIds": [
                    "Strawberry Cow"
                  ]
              },
            },
},

should be like this

[sleek igloo]

ahhhhhh that makes sense

does loading the date after that work the same way as it would for a modded animal?

data*

[brittle pasture]

if you mean editing the alt purchase type for a modded animal that's not your own, then sure

anyway I think it's a good time to bring back the two caveats I mentioned:

AlternatePurchaseTypes pick the first eligible entry, so once you add your entry you'll need to

• use MoveEntries to move it to the top so the game doesn't just pick the Default entry over yours
• add a condition (like RANDOM 0.33) so the game doesn't just always pick your entry over the Default entry

after the code block above the alt purchase fields look like this:

• Default, either white or brown cow, no conditions
• ADStrawberryCow_StrawberryCow, strawberry cow, no conditions

you want it to be

• ADStrawberryCow_StrawberryCow, strawberry cow, 1/3 chance or something
• Default, either white or brown cow, no conditions

see here for documentation on moving entries

[sleek igloo]

thanks selph!

[drowsy pewter]

this chat is never helpful, they keep bullying me and telling me to go back to preschool

[soft lance]

Very random, but, was your display name in this server always glowing light blue and pink? like a gradient? Now ur the magical button 🤣

[brittle pasture]

that's the temporary role color given to the server's top yappers of the week

[inland rain]

portable furnaces

[drowsy pewter]

does the farmer have a back of steel?

[inland rain]

the 997 alien scarecrows didn't tip you off?

[brittle pasture]

need portable manure composter

hmm pungent aromas

[drowsy pewter]

as long as it makes npcs do the trash reaction whenever they see you

[dreamy owl]

what vanilla NPC do I start with?

[drowsy pewter]

for?

[dreamy owl]

portrait mod

can't decide

[wet elm]

Guys I'm converting a mod

So I can have torii gates

Into content patcher

Might need help idk

Thinking of making it a big craftable

[brave fable]

torii are pretty big you'll either need to use Bigger Craftables (if it still works) or make them buildings instead

or furniture, though you'd likely need Furniture Framework for that

what's the original mod you're converting?

[wet elm]

This one https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6314

I'm assuming I can convert it for personal use, yeah?

[wet elm]

Yeah I'm gonna make em buildings

[brave fable]

sure, you can do anything you want for personal use obviously nobody can stop you from doing what you like on your own pc, it's just publishing/sharing that can be a problem

!unpack the game content if you haven't already done so:

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brave fable]

you'll need to do so in order to see how building data is formatted, the stable might be a good point of reference since it has a collision map (a tic-tac-toe grid that determines whether you can walk through tiles)

[digital herald]

This has been fun, gonna take me a few more days to do, but Im half way through rewriting https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2677
Cut down from 2000 lines -> 900 lines.

[wet elm]

Thank you!

[wet elm]

I have to use a different unpacker bc I'm on android unfortunately

And winlator hates me

[brave fable]

ah. i don't have any help for that unfortunately, i've only used windows

in that case you could try downloading some Content Patcher building mods from the nexus as examples

and from there you can follow the format on the wiki for technical info:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Buildings

[wet elm]

I'm using the H&W foundation mod as an example rn

And yeah I've got the wiki up

And ghituo

GitHub

[wet elm]

{
    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
           "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/lanterncat.largetorii",
            "FromFile": "assets/largetorii.png"
      },

        {
            "LogName": "Large Torii Gate",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Buildings",
            "Entries": {
                  "Large Torii Gate": {
                      "ID": "lanterncat.largetorii",
                      "Name": "Large Torii Gate",
                      "Description": "A large torii gate to place on your farm.",
                      "Texture": "Mods/lanterncat.largetorii/largetorii"
                  },

[wet elm]

@brave fable sorry if it's not okay to tag you but does this look right so far?

[brave fable]

no worries it's close, but needs a few tweaks:
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/cd680efec12540089fe8b360d034fed9

• the loaded PNG texture Target and the data Texture field must match exactly
• the Entries key must use the unique item ID
• there is no ID field in building data

you'll still need to fill in a few more fields, such as CollisionMap, FadeWhenBehind, DrawShadow, and so on as you like

you can also use the {{ModId}} token to have Content Patcher substitute in your unique ID automatically where appropriate:
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e9a3ad5cc29946f9bf828e4f0bb93473

[wet elm]

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
           "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/lanterncat.toriigates/largetorii, Mods/lanterncat.toriigates/smalltorii",
            "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
      },

        {
            "LogName": "Large Torii Gate",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Buildings",
            "Entries": {
                  "Large Torii Gate": {
                      "ID": "lanterncat.largetorii",
                      "Name": "Large Torii Gate",
                      "Description": "A large torii gate to place on your farm.",
                      "Texture": "Mods/lanterncat.toriigates/largetorii",
                      "DrawShadow": "true",
                      "AllowsFlooringUnderneath": "true",
                      "Builder": "Robin",
                      "MagicalConstruction": "true",
                      "Size": {
                        "X": 2,
                        "Y": 4
                      },
                      "FadeWhenBehind": "false",
                      "CollisionMap": "XOOX\nXOOX",
                  },
                  "Small Torii Gate": {
                      "ID": "lanterncat.smalltorii",
                      "Name": "Small Torii Gate",
                      "Description": "A small torii gate to place on your farm.",
                      "Texture": "Mods/lanterncat.toriigates/smalltorii",
                      "DrawShadow": "true",
                      "AllowsFlooringUnderneath": "true",
                      "Builder": "Robin",
                      "MagicalConstruction": "true",
                      "Size": {
                        "X": 2,
                        "Y": 4
                      },
                      "FadeWhenBehind": "false",
                      "CollisionMap": "XOOX\nXOOX"
                      }
            }
        }
        
    ]
}```

I think I did it

[brave fable]

looks good, but it won't work quite right -- try this:
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3cd7b8112ccd41dda7f8f106d0742847
again, there's no ID field in building data, and the entry keys need to be globally unique (i.e. prefixed with your mod's unique ID)

i'd guess that your large and small torii have different sizes as well, so you'll want to update both the Size and CollisionMap for one or the other, depending

[wet elm]

Wait I need to change the sizes

[wet elm]

Okay I'm sorry what do you mean by ID field

[wet elm]

  "Format": "2.8.0",
  "Changes": [
    {
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/largetorii, Mods/{{ModId}}/smalltorii",
      "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
    },
    {
      "LogName": "Torii Gates: Data",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/Buildings",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_largetorii": {
          "Name": "Large Torii Gate",
          "Description": "A large torii gate to place on your farm.",
          "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/largetorii",
          "DrawShadow": "true",
          "AllowsFlooringUnderneath": "true",
          "Builder": "Robin",
          "MagicalConstruction": "true",
          "Size": {
            "X": 4,
            "Y": 4
          },
          "FadeWhenBehind": "false",
          "CollisionMap":  "XOOX\nXOOX\nXOOX\nXOOX",
        },
        "{{ModId}}_smalltorii": {
          "Name": "Small Torii Gate",
          "Description": "A small torii gate to place on your farm.",
          "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/smalltorii",
          "DrawShadow": "true",
          "AllowsFlooringUnderneath": "true",
          "Builder": "Robin",
          "MagicalConstruction": "true",
          "Size": {
            "X": 3,
            "Y": 3
          },
          "FadeWhenBehind": "false",
          "CollisionMap": "XOX\nXOX\nXOX"
        }
      }
    }
  ]
}```

[brave fable]

looks good!

[brave fable]

Name, Description, Texture, etc. are all fields of the building data; your earlier data also included an ID field on each, but the game doesn't expect there to be one

[wet elm]

OH I see

Ty

[wet elm]

I need help with making the context tags work

  "Format": "2.3.0",
  "Changes": [
    //Craftables 
    {
      "LogName": "Japanese Lanterns - Craftables",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/BigCraftables",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_largetorii": {
           "Name": "{{ModId}}_stonelantern",
           "DisplayName": "Yukimi-Gata Stone Lantern",
           "Description": "A yukimi-gata style Japanese lantern.",
           "Price": 500,
           "Fragility": 0,
           "CanBePlacedOutdoors": true,
           "CanBePlacedIndoors": true,
           "IsLamp": true,
           "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
           "SpriteIndex": 0
           "ContextTags": [
            "torch_item", 
            "light_source"
          ]
        },
        "{{ModId}}_largebamboolantern": {
           "Name": "{{ModId}}_largebamboolantern",
           "DisplayName": "Large Andon Bamboo Lantern",
           "Description": "A large andon style Japanese lantern.",
           "Price": 500,
           "Fragility": 0,
           "CanBePlacedOutdoors": true,
           "CanBePlacedIndoors": true,
           "IsLamp": true,
           "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
           "SpriteIndex": 1,
           "ContextTags": [
            "torch_item", 
            "light_source"
          ]
        },
        "{{ModId}}_smallbamboolantern": {
           "Name": "{{ModId}}_smallbamboolantern",
           "DisplayName": "Small Andon Bamboo Lantern",
           "Description": "A small andon style Japanese lantern.",
           "Price": 500,
           "Fragility": 0,
           "CanBePlacedOutdoors": true,
           "CanBePlacedIndoors": true,
           "IsLamp": true,
           "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
           "SpriteIndex": 2,
           "ContextTags": [
            "torch_item", 
            "light_source"
          ]
        }
    //Lights 
    {
      "LogName": "Japanesee Lanterns - Lights",
      "Action": "EditImage",
      "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
      "FromFile": "assets/lanterns_night.png",
      "When": {
        "Time": "{{Range: 1600, 2600}}"
      },
      "Update": "OnLocationChange"
    ```

I even copied from another json that smapi didn't have an issue with, but when I ran this one, it didn't like it

[dreamy owl]

Do- does it really take this long

[wet elm]

???

[dreamy owl]

Bashing my head into a wall. It's been since 9pm and I haven't even finished coloring of my Seb portrait

And I'm productive

Anyways time for more chicken nuggets I'm hungry and sobbing

[wet elm]

SHOW ME

I mean please

[dreamy owl]

He's in #making-mods-art

The lines at least

[woeful lintel]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[vernal crest]

Can you elaborate on what "it didn't like it" means?

[dreamy owl]

Why did I choose Seb first? I wanted to fix his hair

[vernal crest]

Your brackets are wrong. You're missing a closing }, before the //Lights line and you are also missing closing brackets for the Lights patch and the entire file (which might just be a copy and paste fail).

[wet elm]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6ae0147c203d477cbcb18194eaa98250

[vernal crest]

That error is because you don't have a comma after your SpriteIndex on line 20

[wet elm]

OH

Fixed it I think

  "Format": "2.8.0",
  "Changes": [
    //Craftables 
    {
      "LogName": "Japanese Lanterns - Craftables",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/BigCraftables",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_largetorii": {
           "Name": "{{ModId}}_stonelantern",
           "DisplayName": "Yukimi-Gata Stone Lantern",
           "Description": "A yukimi-gata style Japanese lantern.",
           "Price": 500,
           "Fragility": 0,
           "CanBePlacedOutdoors": true,
           "CanBePlacedIndoors": true,
           "IsLamp": true,
           "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
           "SpriteIndex": 0,
           "ContextTags": [
            "torch_item", 
            "light_source"
          ]
        },
        "{{ModId}}_largebamboolantern": {
           "Name": "{{ModId}}_largebamboolantern",
           "DisplayName": "Large Andon Bamboo Lantern",
           "Description": "A large andon style Japanese lantern.",
           "Price": 500,
           "Fragility": 0,
           "CanBePlacedOutdoors": true,
           "CanBePlacedIndoors": true,
           "IsLamp": true,
           "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
           "SpriteIndex": 1,
           "ContextTags": [
            "torch_item", 
            "light_source"
          ]
        },
        "{{ModId}}_smallbamboolantern": {
           "Name": "{{ModId}}_smallbamboolantern",
           "DisplayName": "Small Andon Bamboo Lantern",
           "Description": "A small andon style Japanese lantern.",
           "Price": 500,
           "Fragility": 0,
           "CanBePlacedOutdoors": true,
           "CanBePlacedIndoors": true,
           "IsLamp": true,
           "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
           "SpriteIndex": 2,
           "ContextTags": [
            "torch_item", 
            "light_source"
          ]
        }
      }
    },
    //Lights 
    {
      "LogName": "Japanesee Lanterns - Lights",
      "Action": "EditImage",
      "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/lanterns",
      "FromFile": "assets/lanterns_night.png",
      "When": {
        "Time": "{{Range: 1600, 2600}}"
      },
      "Update": "OnLocationChange"
    }
  ]
}```

I also screwed up 2.3.0 and 2.8.0

Dyslexia 🙄

[vernal crest]

Please keep using the json website. It's difficult to read giant blocks of text here in discord :)

Plus, the json website shows you which brackets are paired which makes it much easier to see if they're all present and in the right place ^_^

[wet elm]

I am, sorry! Didn't think about that part

[hard fern]

@outer glacier halp

[eternal snow]

[hard fern]

😔 these scam bots are everywhere i swear

[eternal snow]

[shut edge]

They target popular game servers I think

I get PM requests from here and TMNT server semi often

[whole raptor]

I didn't know we could have multiple i18n jsons now (that's from ESR)

[hard fern]

oh yeah. i made the fun mistake of nesting my folders too deep

[whole raptor]

So basically we can have a Default folder and all the jsons inside act as the old default.json?

[hard fern]

yep, basically

but you have to pick either the folders or all in one files

so not default folder and also a default.json outside the folder

(i think thats how it works anyways)

[whole raptor]

Yeah, figured

I'm guessing it's the same with other languages then? So if I have a default folder, Zh must also be a folder and not just a zh.json?

[grand badge]

can someone look at my fashion sense json whenever i walk from behind i got no arms and the sleeves wont go away
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ac62676c9147411a8ee1a2d3adcec8b9

[lucid iron]

I think it's lowercase default, but watch out for updating

default.json is preferred over default/ unfortunately

[whole raptor]

I'm not really planning on changing the structure in my published mods, but it'd be neat to use if I ever want to release something new

(extremely low chance of that happening tho)

[heavy pewter]

Smapi logs says no error yet the "{{ModId}}AutoTonic" isnt working, can someone help

TrAction.json
https://smapi.io/json/none/f5d6a15073644938bea403e8ff4efdfe

content.json
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4abe758c17e646779c789f45628c0929

[grand badge]

is this a code error or a sprite error?

[dusk terrace]

hard to tell what's going on there

what are you trying to do?

[grand badge]

make a fashion sense shirt but with no sleeves

[dusk terrace]

so what's the issue? it uses the wrong colors?

[grand badge]

like these characters

[grand badge]

i made 2 but when i walk from behind it got no arms

[dusk terrace]

what fashion sense defines as sleeves are the arms iirc

[grand badge]

alsol these white things still there

[grand badge]

oh

[dusk terrace]

if you don't want the actual sleeve part of the shirt, you'll have to tell it to draw regular arms without the sleeves part on them

[grand badge]

how do i do that?

[dusk terrace]

yea the white part is the shirt part on the sleeve texture

I can't remember on the fly... let me check

[grand badge]

thanks

been looking for a fix since last night

[dusk terrace]

I can't remember if FS has a default sleeve texture without shirt- or a way to ignore it

but either way, you can easily make your own sleeve texture without it

if you look at farmer texture, it essentially has 3 columns- the 2 columns to the right are the sleeves so just crop out the first column

[grand badge]

guh

[dusk terrace]

yep that one- looks outdated though

[grand badge]

its from fashion senses github

[dusk terrace]

ah, yea, I see that now from the example pack

I think the only oudated frames are the slingshot and panhandle frames

[grand badge]

i actually had a tool for that

[dusk terrace]

You can get the current texture from Characters/Farmer if you have them unpacked

should look like this

then you just need to crop out the body, remove the color palette from the top-right, and recolor the sleeve bits to be skin-colored

or other way around and update your sleeve texture to update the slingshot and pan handling but I'm not sure if anything else was changed

[dreamy owl]

I am in confusion

I'm actually gonna crash out

anyways

How high do I have to turn up DPI to make my portrait not look pixelated at 128px

[hard fern]

Very very

Like 128px is quite small

[dusk terrace]

idk but I found this https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/1hs27o4/eli5_why_72_dpi_looks_good_on_computers_and_stuff/

[lucid iron]

Are you making hd portrait

[hard fern]

And it's just gonna get crunched by the game itself too

[dreamy owl]

sort of?

one second lemme grab my file

[hard fern]

Cuz i think there's a soft limit for how HD you can make HD portraits before there's no "enhancement" in pixels anymore

Which i think might be 256x256?

[dreamy owl]

I can compress

cause. Life, accidentally made it 3"x3"

DPI is 300 rn

[hard fern]

Well if you're making hd portraits you don't need to make it smaller, im just saying there's but so much you can do to it before there's no visual difference in-game

[dreamy owl]

I'm going to pull it up in game rq

[dusk terrace]

also another factor to account for is if you make your file too hd and the lines are too thin, it might look weird when downsized to fit

because stardew doesn't do the neat anti-aliasing smoothing picture editing softwares do

[dreamy owl]

cries in all of that graphic design training is useless here

ok so I made DPi too high and now I have to restart

[dusk terrace]

like take this post on DDFC... theonly suggestion I had for them was to save it on a less HD size 🤷

[lucid iron]

I don't know of dpi means anything for sdv

[dreamy owl]

it might

cause of the lines

[hard fern]

J th

[lucid iron]

It a printing thing

But anyways i was gonna elaborate

[dreamy owl]

I'm going to make it the DPI that the current file I have on hand for the vanilla portraits are

[hard fern]

Phone is freezing help lmao

[lucid iron]

The standard portrait is a 64x64 texture drawb at 256x256

[dreamy owl]

eat it

[dusk terrace]

warm it up in the microwave

[lucid iron]

HD portrait mods can be at that size without "losing" resolution

[dreamy owl]

and then eat it

[dreamy owl]

ty

[lucid iron]

Because you are reclaiming the pixels originally drawn as 4 pixels

Any bigger and you get sub pixel crunch like example above

[hard fern]

I think Stardew just knows what pixels are and shows u pixels.

[lucid iron]

Hence i really don't think dpi means anything

It's not a printed medium

[grand badge]

maybe theres a mod that removes sleeves i can link as a requirment

cause my thing didnt work

[dreamy owl]

uhm

I fear

I fear it looks like the average android photo

[dusk terrace]

I don't have any examples I can share... but what was wrong with the example pack you showed earlier?

[hard fern]

I am.. unsurprised

[grand badge]

just checked there

didnt appear in game

[dreamy owl]

time to cry and start over 😢

[dusk terrace]

what does your sleeves.json look like in that folder?

!json you can upload here

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[grand badge]

https://smapi.io/json/none/6e7d047a74f448368040ccb2010136af

used the one on fashion sense

[dusk terrace]

and did you put it in a sub-folder as your mod's name or directly in the folder?

e.g. you mod structure should look like:

ModFoldername
  > Shirts
    > PackName
      > shirts.json
  > Sleeves
    > PackName
      > sleeves.json

[grand badge]

forgot pack name

[dusk terrace]

also from your file I see you're using an oudated version (5.4.2) which you might have to change to 7.0.0 if you want all the updated features

or remove the line entirely the doc examples don't show the version

[grand badge]

ok

dang my idea just makes the hands transparent instead of skin toned

kinda cool tho

wait a minute

i didnt update the sprite

wrong folder i put it in

weird cause i thought i did

stull got them 4 dots but better

ok found a mod for no sleeves

[toxic hornet]

Hello! Does anyone know if it's possible to mod a mod? I'd like to apply some animal retextures to the new SVE animals and the dwarven expansion animals and such but I'm not sure how to go about it

Follow-up: is it possible to edit what the animal is labeled as/drops? SVE has a goose but VMV also has a goose and I'd like to change one to be a swan or something just so there arent repeats

[grand badge]

there we go

[gaunt orbit]

Yes, it is possible. You can mod mods the same way you mod the game

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[gaunt orbit]

You'll want to follow that guide to create a content patcher content pack

[toxic hornet]

Thank you!

That answers the reskin part of my question but do you know if changing the name of the animal/its dropped item is possible too by any chance?

[gaunt orbit]

Yes, that's all in the animal data

You can edit that with cp the same way sve does, just make sure to add sve as a dependency so your patches are applied after sve

[toxic hornet]

awesome thank you so much c:

[tranquil olive]

Would it be possible to make the generic text box for dialogue smaller with json/content patcher somehow, or is that only possible for events?

[toxic hornet]

I assume it would be Extra Animal Configs that would be used to edit those fields?

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25328

[brittle pasture]

no, EAC is not relevant for now

for now just learn the guide for content packs

[toxic hornet]

okay

[lucid iron]

Is this part of NPC's dialogue?

[tranquil olive]

Yes I have it in the dialogue for Emily
Would the smapi link help for the default.json + dialogue.json?

[lucid iron]

Short answer is you cannot

Long answer is you might be able to do it through some convoluted $action things using the message action from BETAS

[tranquil olive]

Ah okay, that's helpful to know...thank you chu√e

[toxic hornet]

I know it's supposed to be EditImage for the reskin but changing the animal's name (and the product's name) is where i'm struggling to find a tutorial

[lucid iron]

Try having sve and vmv installed then do patch export Data/FarmAnimals

This is sorta like doing unpack but on the asset after all mod changes are applied

[toxic hornet]

Okay I'll try that, thank you c:

[dusk terrace]

noticed this code in DialogueBox.drawPortrait some time ago and patched it into DDFC but just now noticed I implemented it in a way that it wasn't used at all yet nobody has every reported related issues so now I'm wondering is this scenario ever happens?

NPC nPC = characterDialogue.speaker;
if (!Game1.IsMasterGame && !nPC.EventActor)
{
    GameLocation currentLocation = nPC.currentLocation;
    if (!currentLocation?.IsActiveLocation())
    {
        NPC characterFromName = Game1.getCharacterFromName(nPC.Name);
        if (characterFromName?.currentLocation.IsActiveLocation())
        {
            nPC = characterFromName;
        }
    }
}

[stray hemlock]

Can it happen that a NPC that is currently talking is in a location that is null or not active? Or is that exactly what you are asking? Sorry, not yet that experienced with SMAPI mods.

[dusk terrace]

that's what I'm wondering

actually it looks like it might just be a check to make sure the NPC has a valid currentLocation
if it doesn't (for whatver odd reason) try reloading the NPC data, or something

but only for farmhands, and never during events

[stray hemlock]

I'm confused. Why would nPC and Game1.getCharacterFromName(nPC.Name) ever not be equal? Does that happen?

[dusk terrace]

I guess that's the root of my question

[stray hemlock]

Let's wait for a person that is smart, unlike me.

[lucid iron]

It's possible for event actors

They are all clones

[stray hemlock]

Gosh, Star Wars was right.

[lucid iron]

I dunno why you'd do it here though

[dusk terrace]

so when an event actor starts a dialogue but then stops being an event actor without updating the currentLocation?

[lucid iron]

Can that happen tho I thought speaker is invariant during a single dialogue stack

Mod shenanigans aside

[dusk terrace]

maybe it's for mod shenanigans

I can't remember if that bit of code was added with 1.6 or if I only noticed it then
but it could be a sketchy way of making sure it doesn't crash when checking for location when getting the proper portrait

[odd ginkgo]

hello! long time no see, last time I visited the SDV modding discord, I was looking for people to take over my mods, now im officially back to do the work updating/fixing them myself!

here's a question - are there any big upcoming expansion mods, maybe in development over the last year?

I'm thinking of combining my NPC/expansion mods into one, polishing them up, and re-releasing as a package

but I'd die if they immediately conflicted with someone else's big release

anyway hello!

[obtuse wigeon]

I know the creator of Ridgeside Village has come back temporarily to make a big update, no timeline of release that I know of, East Scarp just had a major update release recently, other than those two expansions, I'm not sure of any other ones

[dusk terrace]

whatever happened to MCN

[humble timber]

ive been slowly working on an expansion but there shouldnt really be any conflicts and it's nowhere near done anyway lmao

[odd ginkgo]

I'm probably being optimistic about my timeline too haha

but good to know! thank you!

[hard fern]

yeah im working on npcs too, but i don't think you should worry about that XD i'll finish in 10 years maybe

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm too working on an expansion too XD I haven't even made the map so there is PLENTY of time there XD

[humble timber]

me: yeah i just wanna bring pokemon characters to sdv
me like 6 months later: now has like 8 more npcs planned than initially for like at least 18 if not 22 npcs

[hard fern]

tbh im actually kinda procrastinating on mine

[odd ginkgo]

Once you figure it out, the possibilities open up

[hard fern]

im playing The world's best game ever

[odd ginkgo]

I'm like, okay I'll make my three/four mini expansion one easy package... oh and maybe one more NPC... two more NPC...

[humble timber]

scope creep!

[obtuse wigeon]

Scope creep is real XD

[inner harbor]

Do you mean Magic Circle Network? Animal crossing and a pandemic.

[odd ginkgo]

Does Ray, doing the Horizons WIP ever swing by here? I guess that's the one I was thinking of for new expansions

[dusk terrace]

I was really looking forward to it

[digital herald]

I got the AlwaysOnServer mod to compile again. Is there a way to write test for SMAPI mods? I wonder if I can automate a few tasks using tests.

[lucid iron]

I personally think it's nice that you have standalone NPCs right now

Usually the central element of expansion mod is new town where the NPCs can live together and not conflict with others though

[urban patrol]

in general do people try to save their config files between updates to mods? can this cause issues if i’ve changed config options significantly?

i know you’re not supposed to pack your config file but

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't but I don't think I've noticed when major config changes occur, so either Stardrop handles them automatically, or I just play on defaults without relising XD

[urban patrol]

lmao

[digital herald]

I saw a few of them send out deprecate messages.

[urban patrol]

like in the log or?

[digital herald]

in the SMAPI logs

[urban patrol]

ah ok i can’t do that without C#

actually BETAS might have that in the danger section…

[brittle ledge]

SMAPI updates out of date config.jsons, I'm pretty sure

[urban patrol]

oh excellent

well. less excellent in that i no longer have a theory for this person’s issue lol but still

[obtuse wigeon]

What's the issue theyre having?

[brittle ledge]

There's a number I know of that are in development, but none that have concrete release dates. I don't believe anyone's even said "Soon™️" so I wouldn't worry if you're releasing in the next, eh, 3-6 months?

[urban patrol]

it didn’t auto detect that they had stardew druid installed and so the docks were in the wrong place

2 people had it

i haven’t dived deep into my code yet though

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh? didn't you have that on a HasMod check? or was a config option also provided?

[urban patrol]

and i noticed a weird issue last night where, with SVE installed, monty’s house exterior didn’t exist until i swapped the config and back again

yes and yes

auto detect or you can manually choose

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh gotcha

[odd ginkgo]

I agree, but part of my original burnout was trying to figure out compat with 10000 different mods and other NPCs that I didn't playtest with. I understand now how much easier it is to just set aside another area where everyone is

I'm really inspired by the Downhill Project tbh, as a connected area for set aside NPCs

[lucid iron]

I think it's fine to just not be compatible with other things tbh, or encourage people to simply make compatibility patches

You can make this easier for ppl by isolating the map patches on vanilla locations to a single json, so that ppl can just go in and change x y

[odd ginkgo]

I learned a lot from publishing those mini-expansions, I'm def going to respond to the comments a little differently, and set up areas a little differently

map patches in the forest area... phew...

[fervent horizon]

Just use Central Station and make your own area

It really opens the world up not having to worry about where something connects

[obtuse wigeon]

Seconding the Central Station thing, Visit Mount Vapius uses it and is an expansion, I think it's honestly the easiest way, especially given it can replace the more bus stop mod and train stations mod

[lucid iron]

VMV actually uses a minecart when central station isn't there

[twin wadi]

i forgot, was there a console command for reloading mod map tiles?

[urban patrol]

does patch reload not work?

[twin wadi]

i vaguely remember there being something separate for map tiles but im not sure. yeah it didnt work for some reason just now

[lucid iron]

Patch reload is the correct thing but sometimes u may need to exit and return

[twin wadi]

ty!

[upbeat zephyr]

hello, im editing some mods and wanted to know if there was a way to do this... im using JP's monster pets, but i want to have the sprites from Bog's monster bash, specifically the dust sprite ones - but how can i edit it to make it so you could adopt any of the types of dust sprites when you click on it ? (Like when you go to buy chickens/cows and it randomly gives you white or brown ?)

[hard fern]

i always leave the map im patch reloading before doing it

and then just come back

[brittle pasture]

you can try target editing Data/FarmAnimals to add new skins or breeds referencing MM's spritesheets
this is assuming that MM's monster sheets are set up in a similar way to farm animal sheets however; if it isn't (which is likely) you'd need to do manual personal edits

and obviously you can't distribute it

[upbeat zephyr]

yeah no distributing

from what im seeing in the mod listing, they are mostly the same ? but im not mod savvy so im unsure what to look for lol

[hallow prism]

yeah for npc mod authors i strongly suggest using Central Station (or at least some minecart system if CS looks really too much initially)

being out of the main place is a bit of work in making the place interesting to visit but :

• it's not an issue if the npc itself visit Pelican Town regularly
• it's so much more freeing in term of finding a spot

i see some people that have basically every working npc mods they can and the forest is full of patches and compat thing

[tight rivet]

today, in random bug reports to Nexus:

"if a stardew valley mod has no folder, please extract it to a folder matching the zip name"

no prizes for guessing what happened :V

[hard fern]

"mod dowsn't work" ?

[tight rivet]

it extracted to the /Mods folder, yeah

which.. i mean, that's at least a fixable thing on a mod manager

"if the archive contains no folder, make one"

since even mods that patch other mods need a folder. <_<

[lucid iron]

Not an answer to your question exactly but bog monster mash has companion mod for adoption their dust sprites

[uncut oriole]

Has anyone made a list of available menus in game? (and how to call them?)

[brittle ledge]

Gonna second Central Station since you're doing a whole expansion - you'll have enough stuff on your own maps to entice people without being forgotten (like a single NPC might)

[brittle pasture]

!decompile look under the Menus namespace

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[upbeat zephyr]

oh really ?? maybe i just missed it, lol

[lucid iron]

It's a different system than farm animals

[tight rivet]

Me: I should configure my mods this play through (I nuked like.. 14 off)

Me: ooh new fish mods

[upbeat zephyr]

im not seeing it in their mod list ? am confused lol

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/39430

[upbeat zephyr]

oh i thought it wasnt pets, whoops lol

[gentle rose]

it isn’t pets

it’s a sanctuary using monster hutch framework

[uncut oriole]

I meant specific instances like Pierre's shopmenu

[upbeat zephyr]

oh uh

then how would i make the pet thing work in my og question ? /genq

[gentle rose]

what do you mean how to call them then? really that’s just a normal instance of ShopMenu

[lucid iron]

You would have to do personal edit on the jp mod's files basically

I don't know if it's pulling from vanilla or not there

[upbeat zephyr]

yeahh but how lol

i just wanna add the random chance stuff

lol

[uncut oriole]

So for example the Bookerseller shop is called using the shop ID "Bookseller" and Pierre's shop is "Seeds". ShopMenu uses StardewValley.Gamedata to find the shop data.

[gentle rose]

so are you looking for a list of shops?

[uncut oriole]

yes

[gentle rose]

Data/Shops iirc

[uncut oriole]

Thats it. Ty. Didnt bother checking the unpacked contents

[gentle rose]

that’s the first place to go for things like this in the future

[gentle rose]

also [[Modding:Shops]] has a partial list of IDs at the bottom

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Shops

[upbeat zephyr]

this is what it says for dust sprites,,,, how would i add the random chance ?

would i do something like this ?

(snippet taken from another pet mod)

[lucid iron]

You gotta look inside DustSpirit.json

Include doesn't do change only brings in other changes

[upbeat zephyr]

okay, im looking there rn

sorry i just finished uni homework so im scrambled a tad lol

[lucid iron]

If you want to replace the texture though, you need to see if they are the same shape (unlikely if one is monster one is pet)

If they r not matching then you gotta do image edits too

[upbeat zephyr]

that part is easy i can do that

its just about adding the varieties

[tight rivet]

hmm.. wonder why I keep getting 'festival spring2 is missing conditions data field'

time to trace down exports

.. it's an empty file..?

[digital herald]

Can someone point me to a mod that can change time in game? Like jumping to a date?

[obtuse wigeon]

CJB cheats mod

[gentle rose]

cjb cheats

[digital herald]

Thank you!

[tight rivet]

.. I am debating if this is worth less spam in my console.

..yeah it's not, I'm just going to delete some stuff out of this FTM pack

and get back to this mod idea

[lucid mulch]

also the stock Console Commands mod with world_settime and stuff

[tight rivet]

@fervent horizon When you see this, you need to fix the restore hat mouse mod to use "(O)Moss" - it's case sensitive.

[fervent horizon]

it is updated as of yesterday evening

[tight rivet]

.. weird.

i'm not seeing - hm. That's just my end maybe then?

[fervent horizon]

1.0.1 should be the fixed version

[tight rivet]

becuase I had to do a manual edit just now and verify it

checks what I have installed

oh, apologies then. I somehow .. didn't see the update and it wasn't listed as one

i'll just.. patch it @.@

(by downloading the new verison)

[fervent horizon]

that and adding a top level folder were the only changes

forgot the top level folder on my first uploads zip

[tight rivet]

yeah, I should have checked, but I trusted the update checking mechanism on this would actually check, rip me

thank you!

[fervent horizon]

hopefully it will now

[tight rivet]

eh.. it could have been the mod manager

it is unreliable sometimes about checking for updates

which is deeply annoyng because I have not figured it out yet

[autumn tide]

hmmm is there a way to see which NPCs are able to randomly attend the movie theater?

and in what groups

...nvm

why must i always find the answer AFTER asking

i've been searching for 10+ minutes and NOW i find it?

[uncut viper]

not possible to change them btw

[vernal crest]

Our brains do that to us to keep us humble 😌

[uncut viper]

(via CP)

[autumn tide]

gotcha! good to know lol

[autumn tide]

..cannot find this file in the unpacked game- ig I'll finally ask pathos for access to that GitHub repo thing with the game's code

[uncut viper]

its not in the unpack

you dont need the repo for the decompile

[autumn tide]

oh?

[uncut viper]

you can just decompile it yourself

[brittle ether]

is it possible for someone to point me in the direction of how retexture mods work? i want to make an obelisk retexture mod for the base game obelisks, plus the east scarp and ridgeside obelisks, but i have no idea where to start other than looking at other mod's content json files and hoping they'll help and trying to find a good app/website where i can actually make the sprites to fit in stardew

[autumn tide]

..still prob will ask for it eventually, but good to know!

[brittle pasture]

public static string[][][][] possibleNPCGroups = new string[7][][][]
we're nesting arrays that has never been nested before

[uncut viper]

yeah its quite a mess

[autumn tide]

....uhhh is this relating to the movie theather stuff or is it about another topic?

sorry I'm a little lost atm lol

[brittle pasture]

take a look at the documentation for content patcher, particularly https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editimage.md

[uncut viper]

this is what you're going to see if you look in the decompile to see the NPC groups

[brittle ether]

ty! i didnt know this resource exists

[autumn tide]

OH

okay

[uncut viper]

the variable that holds the possible NPC groups is a list of lists of lists of lists of names

[autumn tide]

oh my

um

.....ig i'll just scour all the info i can find about who specifically is able to attend randomly

oh wait

i don't think i have to

[uncut viper]

i mean you'll still be able to see the names

its just heavily nested

and fguring out how the names are exactly used is trickier bc of all the nesting

[autumn tide]

can the Whitelist thing in movie preferences include multiple NPCs?

like, if any of the multiple NPCs are there then the reaction will apply?

..or would it be all?

[uncut viper]

it is a list of names used as an OR

so, any

[autumn tide]

okay perfect

tysm @uncut viper :)

[tiny zealot]

friends, after working on some implementation, it is looking doubtful that i can deliver separate color sets for the different spritefont sizes, and i will likely have to make them shared

[uncut viper]

unacceptable, but im willing to accept it /lh
i know you did your best

[autumn tide]

that's alr! font smasher on its own is still really cool :)

[tiny zealot]

the issue is that in order to identify which font is being drawn, i have to be "inside" (prefix) the DrawString functions, where the spritefont reference is already set. but at that point, so is the draw color, and the codebase is replete with
DrawString(font, whatever, whatever, Game1.textColor * 0.8f)

and a bunch of other constants that are not that one

and i am not keen to attempt to inflict a wide-ranging transpiler that attempts to work around this, because 1. it's insane and 2. it won't account for any mod that calls DrawString on its own, and i expect there are Some Of Those

so it seems saner to just reassign Game1.textColor and friends

[lucid iron]

what happens if u color / Game1.textColor

i have no idea how color maffs work

[tiny zealot]

well, (unless anyone has any tips) once i get into the method and i know what font i'm using, i don't know whether i got a color as-is or multiplied by a constant

[uncut viper]

im sure theres nothing wrong with using those functions that get the previous stackframe to see which method called this particular DrawString to inspect its IL to see if there is any constant multiplier applied

doing that in a draw method that runs every frame is probably perfectly performant

though, maybe it would be if you cached the result

[next plaza]

@autumn tide Is this the right github avatar? Just double checking since I see no repos

[autumn tide]

Yup!

[autumn tide]

I have one private one lol

And its a mess-

[next plaza]

@autumn tide Oh, it's your profile picture here too

Anyways you should have an invite now

[autumn tide]

Yup!

[royal stump]

Operator '/' cannot be applied to operands of type 'Color' and 'Color'
for XNA color, color * float multiplies each RBGA value by the float, but that's its only operator besides == !=
and system.drawing.color only has == !=

[obtuse wigeon]

Opening the channel on mobile just to see a very eyes wide open cat was so very amusing XD

[fluid night]

I'm making a mod that adds onto Gwen's Medieval Buildings and adds the premium coop and barn as well as the winery, and I was wondering how to make things seasonal to match everything. (I'm like BRAND NEW to making mods, and this is technically my first content mod. Can someone walk me through all the .json stuff?)

and yes i did ask permission but gwens on hiatus so i'm not sure about uploading it without an answer

[tiny zealot]

no answer means no upload, sorry to say

[fluid night]

I know that but i want to make it functional for myself at least

[tiny zealot]

sure, personal use is fine

[fluid night]

so, how do the seasonal mods work?

[narrow owl]

probably game state queries\

[tiny zealot]

It Depends™. if they're editing something that the base game supports seasonal changes on, then often it is game state queries. if it's something else and using content patcher, typically they use the Season token

[vernal crest]

!startmodding Asking someone to walk you through the entirety of how to make a mod is a really big ask. We can point you to resources though.

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[fluid night]

okay thank you!

[vernal crest]

Are Gwen's buildings seasonal?

[fluid night]

yes

[narrow owl]

as you told me you can mostly ask for smaller individual things if you are confused in this channel

[fluid night]

ohhh okay mb mb

[narrow owl]

its completely fine we all learn, i got the same message typed to me

[uncut viper]

(in the case of buildings you also have the option of using SeasonOffset too)

[vernal crest]

Then you should just be able to copy what is already in there but apply it to the new buildings you want to affect

[fluid night]

I'm doing a redraw and everything for it

[cinder zodiac]

Hello I'm a new member of stardew valley discord. I'm a fans of game pixel like stardew valley and roller coaster tycoon classic. I saw many mod for stardew valley. To be honest, i have a dream to create a mod game that could combine those 2 my favorite games. I imagine my character can go to a map that content amusement park. i have asked chat gpt. But it cannot give me downloadable result. And i don't know how and where to put the coding result. Can you kindly please help to make or teach how to make this stardew mod? Thanks

[tiny zealot]

!chatgptcode the first thing to do is stop asking chatgpt to do it

[ocean sail]

We don't recommend using generative AI (such as ChatGPT, Copilot, Claude, Grok, etc.) to write mods for Stardew Valley. There are a few reasons.

• AI-generated content is not allowed to be posted in the server. If you need help with your code, you won't be able to post it.
• Large Language Models aren't trained on enough Stardew-specific information to give reliable, accurate output. They also have no concept of what they don't know, and so cannot tell if they're incorrect. In short, they don't know if they're hallucinating a solution that simply feels like it makes sense or not.

This holds true for both SMAPI/C# mods, and mods for frameworks such as Content Patcher.

There's no shame in being new to Stardew modding, and you won't be talked down to for not knowing what you're doing. We strongly recommend consulting with other mod authors in the appropriate channels as a first step if you're completely stuck at step one.

To use this command, type !chatgptcode.

[tiny zealot]

sorry about that. that was a bit short of me. welcome aboard!

[narrow owl]

OOH FOR MY FINAL PROJECT IN DIGITAL MEDIA NEXT YEAR I SHOULD TRAIN GPT OSS ON STARDEW WITH CONTENT PATCHER DOCS (obvi no posting in this server but that would be hella funny)

or ill jus dev an actual mod

[cinder zodiac]

I don't have coding knowledge and so on. In roller coaster tycoon classic, there is a toolkit for creating new map, track and so on. i saw active players posting new map and track too in rctgo.com. Meanwhile in stardew valley also have great active players that provide many mods too. Is there a specific app to create a new mod for stardew? I wanna learn it too

[narrow owl]

usually content patcher

[vernal crest]

Please don't contribute to the world being a worse place by actively using gen AI :(

[narrow owl]

it would be a completely private experiment, although i dont think teach would like it cuz yk he used to work in entertainment and we know how they feel about ai

[narrow owl]

basically start with an idea and then research how to do that wwith content patcher, this channel can help

[vernal crest]

!startmodding We just use text editors like Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code to write JSON. We use Tiled to make maps. Other than Tiled, there's no one specific program we use.

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[narrow owl]

i love vs code but i havent met too many users

[fluid night]

What does the grey text mean and is it mandatory?

[narrow owl]

comments

they describe the code

if it has a // before it is a comment and usually a different color

[vernal crest]

I'd say somewhere between half to probably most of us here use VSC (or VSCodium, in my case, because poop to Microsoft).

[narrow owl]

tf is codium never seen or heard of it, is it discount vs code?

[cinder zodiac]

Thank you so much guys for the information. I will check and learn what you explain so far. And ask more later😊

[lucid iron]

Vs code is open source so the one called just vs code is microsoft's build

Vs codium is the open source no microsoft things build

[vernal crest]

It's a fork of VSC with the telemetry removed.

[narrow owl]

so microsoft cant see

[narrow owl]

glhf

YO IM SO PISSED OFF RN

MY PC CRASHED BEFORE I SAVED WORK

IT SAVED YESSS

[twin wadi]

theres the smallest "choppiness" while the event does this (switching out marnie to a temporary character to change to a different pose without directly editing marnie's sprites) and does anything know how to remove that or is that just something inevitable when doing this?

weird, i dont experience the minor delay here

[devout otter]

I don't know why it's different with the two cases, but can you try warp Marnie -1000 -1000 true?

[latent mauve]

Okay, I remember why I got stalled on the bathroom renovation mod now-- when I tried to add the 'expand bathroom' option, I have run into issues with the map patch not showing the correct "empty" patch, because the small and expanded bathrooms take the same space.

So, depending on the order of the AdditionalRenovations, the farmhouse either shows the small bathroom without it being purchased (instead of the black empty patch), OR never shows the expanded bathroom patch, even when purchasing it.

Is there a way to make the AdditionalRenovations field look for two mailflags instead of one, or do I need to try When argument shenanigans in addition?

[brittle pasture]

Requirements is a list so you should be able to just add another entry

[tiny zealot]

cooking (finally!) (pictured: lavender dreams ui)

[latent mauve]

It does not appear to be a list in the AdditionalRenovations map property, but it is in Data/HomeRenovations.

My issue is with the map property

[uncut viper]

looking at the code, it can only check for one mail flag

[latent mauve]

hmmm.

[brave fable]

gorgeous fonts 🪻

[latent mauve]

The troublesome code block in question: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/342adb690b8240e485a066770022f1d0

[latent mauve]

I'll probably just have to give up on making it a tiered/multi-stage renovation

[loud sandal]

Is the issue because you're omitting inactiveMap?

[twin wadi]

ill try it thank you!

[latent mauve]

They should both have inactive maps set? The problem is that, depending on the order of the renovations in the map property, it either ignores the active or the inactive map of the second renovation.

The goal was Empty -> Bathroom -> Expanded Bathroom, but I keep ending up with either Bathroom -> Expanded or Empty -> Bathroom -> Bathroom depending on the ordering.

[digital herald]

Didnt seem like I can click on screen using SMAPI? I want to advance through a cut scene basically.

[latent mauve]

I think you might be in the wrong place? This channel is for making mods. nevermind, I was lacking context

[uncut viper]

they are making a headless server mod