making-mods-general

[narrow owl]

so like candy.png?

or magmasprite.png?

[devout otter]

Yes.

Also yes.

[narrow owl]

ohh so you can have it find the correct file in assets?

and if u want can you replace it with just the name? (wait no nvm thats dumb)

[devout otter]

It looks at every asset you put in the Target field and takes the last part, basically.

[narrow owl]

ok so it should be structured like have assets folder, have candy.png in assets, have magmasprite.png in assets, and when you put those names under target they load with that specified png with the name?

[devout otter]

The structure can be anything.

Wait, I'll give several examples.

[narrow owl]

ty

[devout otter]

            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "HeyYouHeyHey/Licorice",
            "FromFile": "YourFolder/Licorice.png"
        },    ```This means "Look for a file named `Licorice.png` within the folder named `YourFolder`, and Load it as an asset named `HeyYouHeyHey/Licorice`.

Now if you have two assets you want to Load, ordinarily you'd do it like this. { "Action": "Load", "Target": "HeyYouHeyHey/Licorice", "FromFile": "YourFolder/Licorice.png" }, { "Action": "Load", "Target": "HeyYouHeyHey/Cotton", "FromFile": "YourFolder/Cotton.png" },

But maybe you don't want to bother typing all those so you can shorten it to: { "Action": "Load", "Target": "HeyYouHeyHey/Licorice, HeyYouHeyHey/Cotton", "FromFile": "YourFolder/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png" },

[narrow owl]

so modid in this case is heyyouheyhey?

[devout otter]

Which basically means "I want to Load two assets. one is named HeyYouHeyHey/Licorice and the other is named HeyYouHeyHey/Cotton. Please look for Licorice.png for the first one and Cotton.png for the second."

[narrow owl]

understood

[devout otter]

Yeah. Technically your asset name can be anything at all. But it's recommended to put in {{ModId}} so that:

1. The asset name is guaranteed to be unique.
2. It's easier for people to track from what mod the asset comes from.

[uncut viper]

(to be clear, HeyYouHeyHey isnt literally meant as a stand-in for {{ModId}}. you do not replace {{ModId}} yourself, Content Patcher dos it for you)

[narrow owl]

yeah, i think u told me b4 but ty

[narrow owl]

and how do you load the asset to a specific object, like for example a cooking dish?

[devout otter]

Do you want to edit an existing dish, or want to load a new dish?

[narrow owl]

new

[devout otter]

For food, you just need to do Load on its image png.

[narrow owl]

?

[devout otter]

And then edit the game's Object data to consider it food.

[lucid mulch]

Editdata to add the object definition, an image load for the texture (or use internalassetkey) and editdata for the cooking recipe entry

[narrow owl]

i think ill figure it out

[devout otter]

You can take a look at this: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Objects

The Appearance section is where you'd point to the image you Load.

[narrow owl]

ty

[narrow owl]

im gonna try it now, wish me luck 🤞

[narrow owl]

ty

[quick sand]

in your object data you put the name you chose for "target" as the texture

sprite index tells it which sprite in that spritesheet to use.
here candy.png has like 10 sprites and the sprite index says count them until you reach 13 then use that one

shit i guess its more than like 10 if its asking for 13 lol

[narrow owl]

k, im just gonna make an individual file for every item jus cuz easier

[quick sand]

its definitely easier early on. if you do end up putting multiple on one remember the count starts at 0, so to target the first sprite you would use index 0

[narrow owl]

ok

how long is a row and how long is column?

[quick sand]

as in how many sprites or how many pixels?

[narrow owl]

both

[quick sand]

either way its up to you if youre just using your own (not adding to vanilla).
the size of each sprite however is determined by code and you gotta look it up

objects are 16x16 sprites, npc i think are 16x32

[narrow owl]

k

[narrow owl]

ok

[gaunt orbit]

A tile is 16x16, so a lot of sprites are multiples of 16

[narrow owl]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Objects
is there like an example of object creation giving the whole structure?

[uncut viper]

everything in Data/Objects.json in your unpack is an example

[narrow owl]

cp dont change format?

[uncut viper]

no

[narrow owl]

oh cuz it kinda did with fishponds iirc but idk

ty

[uncut viper]

once you're inside Entries/Fields, you are mimicking the vanilla data structure

it is the same concept for every single asset

[gaunt orbit]

Technically yes, but the unpacker unpacks it in the same format cp uses, so effectively no

[narrow owl]

ok, is there a modded example?

[uncut viper]

any mod that adds an item

[narrow owl]

oh shoot im dumb that works

[uncut viper]

addendum: any CP mod

past 1.6

[narrow owl]

can u suggest a very simple one?

[uncut viper]

no, i dont know what would make a good example mod

[narrow owl]

k

[vernal crest]

You're getting dangerously close to "do all the work for me" territory here

[narrow owl]

oh shi i didnt mean to im sorry

[vernal crest]

Me unzipping a copy of my mod inside the BETAS folder to check something in it: there's no way this can go wrong later

[narrow owl]

im sorry im jus really tired rn and my comprehension isnt very functional, if it ever hapens again jus tell me to stfu and ill understand

[uncut viper]

inside the BETAS folder...

[vernal crest]

I just needed any folder and I already had it open. Don't worry, I've moved it now lol

[uncut viper]

damn, and i was just about to put out an update to delete any extra files inside the BETAS folder on game launch

[narrow owl]

in the display name and descm what does i18n mean/do?

[vernal crest]

i18n stands for internationalisation and it's how we make our mods easy for people to translate

[narrow owl]

so its just an extra thing that helps with access for more people?

[vernal crest]

Instead of putting player-visible text directly inside our content.json files so that translators have to publish entire copies of our mods to translate them, we use i18n tokens inside the content.json and put the player-visible text into the default.json file (if English) in the i18n folder. Then translators just make a new file for their language and publish that.

[narrow owl]

ok, thanks

[narrow owl]

is there a wiki page for whereand how u create the string variables in Displayname and desccription?

[vernal crest]

These two pages:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/translations.md
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Translation#i18n_folder (ignore the section called Reading Translations - that's only for C# mods)

[narrow owl]

ty

[narrow owl]

top on is for peopple making translations and bottom is for making mods?

[vernal crest]

Nope, both are relevant for making mods

[narrow owl]

ok, tysm

ill leave u alone now

[vernal crest]

Some info is duplicated across both pages, but some is present on only one of the two pages

[vernal crest]

No, this kind of asking for help is fine :) You're asking for resources that aren't necessarily easy to find. You're also welcome to ask questions about the content of those pages if you find a concept that you aren't fully understanding.

The problem before was asking to be given an exact mod to look at for help when there are so many object mods and it can be quite easy to see on Nexus how big they are - a lot of them will say "this adds X objects", for example.

[narrow owl]

ok, ty

srry

[vernal crest]

It's ok, now you know :)

[narrow owl]

ty

[drowsy pewter]

does anyone know if sve loads its i18n anywhere? I need to access item names

[hard fern]

🤔 loads the i18n? doesnt it not just use it normally? (like the {{i18n:}} stuff)

[uncut viper]

if they don't load it anywhere and it's of critical importance, CMCT would let you use another mods i18n

[drowsy pewter]

Yeah I'm considering that too

But it might be few enough items that copying strings is also fine

[wheat kelp]

Hullo! Back with a random question.

How does crossover content from other games go over? Like if I wanted to add a small mod that's a nod to content from another game series.. I imagine you'd need to make it generic/not use their names?

[hard fern]

honestly i think it would depend on the other game's guidelines

[wheat kelp]

I'm thinking of a mod that adds a small town-wide role play that nods to Elder Scrolls.

[hard fern]

since i see plenty of crossover mods all the time

[wheat kelp]

Any examples I can look at that pop out at you?

I don't really... Play other games 🤣

[brave fable]

baldur's gate (3) valley was a notable example

[wheat kelp]

Okay wait that sounds amazing

[brave fable]

amusingly also the only one i've heard actually have legal issues

[wheat kelp]

Never heard of that before

Okay so a cautionary tale, good to know

[brave fable]

hasbro/wizards of the coast sent a ceast-and-desist copyright hit on the mod, but withdrew it when people rightly rioted

[hard fern]

not sure what the whole story behind that one was XD

oh

you typed it

[brave fable]

well i'm sure that's hardly the whole story

other than that i've not heard of any mods ever being in hot water

[wheat kelp]

Wow that's nuts. Like Nintendo nuts lol

[hard fern]

honestly i think since stardew modding is pretty minor, there usually wouldnt be any legal issues?

[wheat kelp]

Okay cool. It might be a while before I can get the code figured out, but I want to add a cute lil (innocent) Dark Brotherhood questline

[hard fern]

there's pokemon mods that haven't been smited

[brave fable]

'pretty minor' with upwards of a paltry half a billion downloads, outnumbering several bethesda games and baldurs gate 3

[hard fern]

😭

i meant like, usually you hear issues happen with other games

just not stardew

[brave fable]

and where mods can so very easily be monetised for nexus funbucks

[hard fern]

except for the baldurs gate the third issue i guess

[wheat kelp]

Oh so they were rightfully miffed 🤣🤣

[brave fable]

sure, if you view it from a lens of 'profiting from two existing intellectual properties', less if you view it as 'wow this is the most unbelievable marketing for our game that we didn't even need to request or invest in'

[wheat kelp]

I think that speaks volumes to the power of Stardew Valley

[brave fable]

still no idea why they went after it hahah, just corporate executives and boardroom meetings i guess

in line for hasbro/wotc

but in any case go for it there's plenty of crossovers already, i'd just advise against reusing assets entirely, which would likely just amount to redistributing music in this case

[wheat kelp]

You know, I hadn't even thought about music. That's a good point, thank you.

I planned on hand drawing all the assets, which is why I'm so excited I just got gifted a fire tablet with a pen. I plan to draw the Blade of Woe as one of those collapsible stage knives.

[vast flicker]

How does a content patcher framework work?

[hard fern]

🤔 a content patcher framework? content patcher is the framework.. do you mean like, framework mods that add features you can then use with content patcher?

[vast flicker]

Yeah

[hard fern]

well i'd figure the way they work is different based on each framework

[vast flicker]

I’m trying to make a dialogue mod but I’m not exactly sure what’s a good framework

[gentle rose]

what are you trying to do exactly?

[vast flicker]

Making a jealousy response mod

This is my first mod so I wanted to start with something simple

[gentle rose]

we're going to need more detail than that. what are you specifically trying to do?

"jealousy response mod" could mean different things to different people

[hard fern]

ack, reminds me i should probably get to working on a mod i left as a wip

[vast flicker]

Trying to add more jealousy responses to the jealousy dialogue while specializing it to suit each vanilla spouses

[indigo yoke]

i know there is most likely a way through patches and stuff, but am asking just to see if there is a more simple solution.

I would like to make a crafting item that takes like "paper, other items, 20 hp" to craft. is that possible through an easy method or am I going to have to go through patches?

[gentle rose]

water, I can't know what you specifically mean when you say "other existing jealousy mods" unless you explain. assume we have no context (because we don't)

[vast flicker]

I mean dialogue

Sorry I meant dialogue like add more dialogue

I wanted to add more dialogue instead of the one generic jealousy dialogue

I’m not good at explaining

[shut edge]

Still can't seem to come up with a decent name for my jerky mod

[vast flicker]

What’s your mod about?

[shut edge]

Making jerky in dehydrator, and two extra dehydrators

A few recipes

[vast flicker]

Hm

[shut edge]

Jerk and jerky aren't the friendliest source for idioms lol

[hard fern]

Jerky time :) (emoji necessary)

[vast flicker]

How do I make a dialogue mod

[shut edge]

That's actually one I was considering as I may also make a burger mod

[drowsy pewter]

Jerky Time

[hard fern]

you can then name that one Burger time :)

[vernal crest]

You should just be able to use content patcher

[shut edge]

Yep

[obtuse wigeon]

JERKY (it's an acronym for Just Entirely Really (K)nice Yums)

[shut edge]

lol

[vernal crest]

I have a vague memory of writing Hiria some jealousy dialogue before deciding "wait I hate this terrible mechanic and it's super heteronormative too I'm not doing this" so there must be a key for it

[vast flicker]

How to use content patcher cause idk about you guys but I’m REALLY stupid

[shut edge]

Read the wiki and look at mods that do something similar to your concept

[obtuse wigeon]

!cp

[ocean sail]

Content Patcher (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1915) is a mod which loads content packs to change the game's images and data without replacing XNB files. If you want to make mods using Content Patcher, start at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher.

To use this command, type !cp.

[obtuse wigeon]

the second link is a good start

[shut edge]

For dialog it's pretty much all just text editing

[vernal crest]

SpouseGiftJealous

[gentle rose]

jealousy makes sense as a character flaw for specific characters ig but it's strange to have as a default that's treated as normal

[obtuse wigeon]

Then check out the Content Patcher docs which can give more information on the features of content patcher with some examples (they can be found on the Nexus page for Content Patcher)

[vernal crest]

And it only happens when the player gives a gift to an opposite sex marriage candidate whom they are dating, unless it's that other marriage candidate's birthday! It's such a bizarre situation

[vast flicker]

Really? Thought it was the same gender

[gentle rose]

didn't it originally happen for any opposite sex marriage candidate (regardless of dating) or am I misremembering?

[gentle rose]

also it's "same sex as the spouse" rather than "opposite gender to the player", btw

[vernal crest]

Yeah I know I wrote that section lol I was just going off (incorrect) memory

[shut edge]

There's a bunch of yandere mods if you want jealousy

[gentle rose]

and yes this was a pre 1.4 thing!

hmm, the wiki contradicts itself

one place says hated gifts do count and the other says they don't

[vast flicker]

Maybe I shouldn’t do it

[shut edge]

lol

Up to you, I'm just joking around

[vast flicker]

Hmm

[lucid mulch]

brief look and im leaning on gift type doesn't matter

[drowsy pewter]

love going through my bug reports tab and marking 90% of them as "not a bug" because the person reporting never responded with more info

[lucid mulch]

needs to be a datable person of the same gender as spouse (not roommate), not their birthday, dating and a luck rng check of Game1.random.NextDouble() < 0.3 - (double)((float)who.LuckLevel / 100f) - who.DailyLuck
and 1.6.9+ (not sure exactly which version but not in 1.6.8) there is also Data/Character flags to additionally have GSQ to filter it further, and change the friendship change from default -30 to some other value

[gentle rose]

can you tell if hated gifts counted in 1.4?

[lucid mulch]

I dont have a 1.4 build and cbf going through the git repo and finding the exact block in tryToReceiveActiveObject

was very easy to find in 1.6.15 due to the characterdata fields

[finite ginkgo]

[Steve/Jack Black voice] Chicken Jerky!

I'll see myself out

[gentle rose]

fair enough

[shut edge]

Oh no

Guess that could be the description for the chicken jerky...lol

[finite ginkgo]

Oh no is the correct reaction I think

[vast flicker]

I’m staring at a blank screen rn

[drowsy pewter]

I vote for this

[shut edge]

Chicken Jerky, desc: CHICKEN JERKY! (Blame the discord)

[vast flicker]

Ughhh I feel unmotivated now, great

[fossil osprey]

If you don't know where to start, I can recommend downloading a mod that does something similar (if I understood your case, anything that modifies dialogues could work), and using it as a base to do your things

[vast flicker]

Thanks

[fossil osprey]

If you want, I had made a little mod changing a few dialog on different npc (not on nexus, never officially tested it or anything lol), that can be a very simple example for you

[obtuse finch]

I'm still very confused on what is [response IDs], how to determine one?

[vernal crest]

You decide it. Have you looked at the example question further down the page?

[obtuse finch]

"<response ID> is used to group responses for future reference (multiple answers can share an answer ID)"

Other examples I've seen through others coding consists of numbers, though I am not sure if they serve a purpose or just random

[vernal crest]

They do serve a purpose. They're used to record which answer is chosen in a question. You can then use that to customise future dialogue or even trigger events or other actions.

[obtuse finch]

"$q 12220000/12220001 Fri10_fallback#$"
I just really don't get how to get those numbers

[vernal crest]

You make them up

[obtuse finch]

oh really??

[vernal crest]

Except don't use numbers

[obtuse finch]

I see I thought there's suppose to be a process

[vernal crest]

For example if you had a question asking the player if they like pizza you could have $q {{ModId}}_LikesPizza/{{ModId}}_DisikesPizza bla bla bla

They're only numbers in the game and in old mods because the game used to not accept string IDs. Now it does, so we never have to use meaningless numbers ever again.

[obtuse finch]

I see I see
Frankly it's still somewhat foggy to me but I'll have to test it out and see

ty for your time!

[vernal crest]

Did you see the example question I mentioned before, further down the dialogue page?

It shows one use of the response IDs

I'm also happy to answer more questions or explain more at any point. I've explored dialogue questions quite a bit - even written a tutorial on them (an advanced one though, on how to write chained/nested questions)

[autumn tide]

hellooo console's mad at me, gonna put a screenshot and attach my json

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[autumn tide]

https://smapi.io/json/none/8548628bf81d438a919258b20c848d1b

not really sure what i'm doing wrong tbh

alsoo having issues with the game not finding my maps

..why must no one be online when i choose to debug

[drowsy pewter]

I'm online

[autumn tide]

YES okay tysm

[woeful lintel]

I'm looking at it but I have to look at what trigger actions are

[drowsy pewter]

💨

oh its trigger actions? nvm i can help actually

[autumn tide]

eee ty!

no clue whatsoever

[drowsy pewter]

Your action fields need to be Actions

[autumn tide]

oh shit are they not?

[drowsy pewter]

Because Action is just one string Like this "Action": "My Action"

[hallow prism]

action is for one single action, actions is for a list

[autumn tide]

OH

[hallow prism]

[ is opening a list closed by ]

[autumn tide]

omg tysm!

i didn't know that mattered

[drowsy pewter]

ill help you understand this error:

It says #1 and #2 which are 1 and 2 in your list

The error says its has trouble reading the expected type, so it means your format is wrong

At path action

So that tells you that the format you wrote on line Action is wrong

[autumn tide]

uh huh

okay

..so do i just add an s?

[drowsy pewter]

furthermore it says "error reading string", which means with the format you have, it currently expects a normal string there, not a list which is [ ] (not important just elaborating even more for the future)

Well what do you think

1 and 2 dont work, but your other ones do

[autumn tide]

add an s and change the curly brackets to regular ones?

I'm kinda clueless-

[drowsy pewter]

I don't know what you're talking about, just make it match your other ones

[woeful lintel]

compare your data with this: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Trigger_actions#Data.2FTriggerActions

[autumn tide]

okay-

NVM I GOT IT

thanks!

i understand what i did wrong now lol

[drowsy pewter]

thats good

in my personal opinion i dont like to tell people what character to change here or there because they will just randomly change stuff without thinking about it. sometimes get frustrated and change even more stuff to try and make something work

You need to be able to recognize it for yourself for the future

[autumn tide]

yeah

my brain just takes a while to understand things LOL

on that topic- my maps won't load-

okayyy json time

[autumn tide]

SO whenever I try to warp to my map or have it open in an event, there's an error saying that the map can't be found. My other map I made with the same entry-things works, so I'm like 80% sure it's a map thing specifically. the maps just don't work and I genuinely don't know why bc I'm new to tiled and I made the maps while very sleep deprived- is there anything I might go about to fix them, or should i just try again? I'm pretty sure it's not a json-related thing, but I'll attach it anyways, as well as my map's TMX files
https://smapi.io/json/none/17468e1418a5408b833ec8e65f690c2a
would really appreciate any help- I am slowly but surely losing my last feeble remnants of sanity

[latent mauve]

Can you attach the full error? Trying to see if the TMX is at fault or the code.

[autumn tide]

oh, okay! the error or my log or both?

[game] No location with name LewisBasementDestroyed```

[latent mauve]

Error log, please

[autumn tide]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[autumn tide]

i got a lot of mods- https://smapi.io/log/977680dc1f1a4d849e43c1b1f19f43b0

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.5.0, with 81 C# mods and 229 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[latent mauve]

Okay, you have tilesheet climbing errors

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[latent mauve]

Specifically it looks like the paths tilesheet on one (Destroyed), and townInterior on the others

[vernal crest]

It's generally recommended to develop mods on a much more minimal mods folder setup so that you can be sure you're not getting errors during development that are due to incompatibility with other mods. Better to test incompatibility after you're sure your mod already does what it's supposed to.

(Not related to your error here, which lily already pointed out. Just a general note that makes troubleshooting much easier.)

[fast plaza]

Does anyone know much about the spacecore UI XML loading? the documentation for spacecore doesn't say much about it except that GMCMuses a the same system, but I can't find much about the GMCM UI stuff either. Wondering if it uses its own thing or if it just follows an existing XML standard

[obtuse wigeon]

(a good basic modlist that I use often is CJB cheats, Item Spawner, and the terrain feature deleter mod, then what ever other dependancies I need at that time. I have a seperate mod folder for each mod I'm testing)

[vernal crest]

(My "minimal" mods list is currently around 71 mods. I am in dire need of a cull lol)

[autumn tide]

got it, thank you!

sorry it took me a while lol

[obtuse wigeon]

I made a program for myself (heavily modified from StarDrop iirc) that handles symlinks and the folder stuff for me so I now don't ever need to cull bc it handles the dependencies automagically (sometimes, it's a tad broken and doesnt always work but thats something I can deal with)

[vernal crest]

Faaaaancy

I have 11 in-development mods in my dev folder right now, plus all their dependencies and my testing tools, as well as all the mods I check compat with (which I edited so I can disable them in the config in-game)

It's really handy to be able to check a bunch of different recolour compat without even closing the game once but it does bloat my log

[obtuse wigeon]

that's like the magnum opus of my C# learning so far, still useless with actually applying it to Stardew mods themselves though

[vernal crest]

(Plus I have 21 testing tool mods at all times)

[obtuse wigeon]

that's another thing I also did! it's fantastic being able to test recolours like that, I wholly recommend it for people who do recolour compat stuff often

actually out of interest how did you modify various recolours to disable them in game with the config, did you go through and change every editimage to work with a config token or did you do it in a less time consuming way?

[vernal crest]

Naaaah I just moved the entire changes section of the content.json into a file called aba_content.json and then added an include patch for aba_content.json in the content.json that I enable and disable with a new config setting.

[obtuse wigeon]

I wish I had thought of that, I did the long way, I shall certainly be doing that way now though XD

[vernal crest]

Ooof that must have been a lot of work. I hope you at least used find and replace

[obtuse wigeon]

I did one better, used a python script instead to just insert the config condition at the end of the patches, I wouldn't've done it manually thats for sure XD

[vernal crest]

I am not comfortable enough with programming for it to ever be faster for me to write a script for something like that, alas

[obtuse wigeon]

sometimes I do over complicate things when theres a much easier way like just moving the content.json to another file then loading that with an include

[hard fern]

I once wrote up an entire dynamic spreadsheet that would calculate the answer if i just punched in the numbers, just to cheat on a math test that i got a question wrong on because i made a typo.

[next plaza]

No documentation on it currently.

GMCM uses the same UI system, however it doesn’t use the XML part. It constructs the stuff directly.

XML part uses standard xml syntax, but there isn’t a standard for xml in particular

Remind me in 30 minutes to find xml UI example

[patent lance]

You're a meanie...but okay, kittycatcasey (#6944795) (30m | <t:1762622453>)

[autumn tide]

umm I can't find the tilesheet climbing in the destroyed one? I'm just very confused rn

it's just
<image source="springobjects.png" width="384" height="624"/>
and
<image source="paths.png" width="64" height="256"/>

[latent mauve]

Then make sure you are using the corrected TMX in your mod folder, because the error said this:
StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Exceptions.SContentLoadException: (CP) MY MOD?!?!?!?!??!?!?! loaded map 'Assets/Maps/LewisBasementDestroyed.tmx' with invalid tilesheet path '../../../../Content (unpacked)/Maps/paths.png'. Tilesheet paths must be a relative path without directory climbing (../).

[autumn tide]

oh? okay that's really odd

[latent mauve]

If you think you have fixed it, try running the game again and get an updated error log to see if that has gone away

[autumn tide]

okay

alr, went to bed and it still can't find it, going to properly restart the game now

[latent mauve]

Just sleeping won't be enough to remove map errors even if you fixed them in the backend, you need to run patch reload <YourModID> (without the < > ), and in some cases return to the title screen and reopen your save after doing so, if you aren't completely reopening the game each time.

[autumn tide]

okayyy

..oh wow okay got a shit ton of errors

at least now i know lol

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[autumn tide]

uhhh, is it alright if i put my log here again?

no clue how to interperet these errors

[obtuse wigeon]

That's what this channel is for, go ahead!

[autumn tide]

https://smapi.io/log/7c8fb24a8da9419e912e1aff5f072998

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.5.0, with 81 C# mods and 229 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[autumn tide]

i am so lost rn omg

[latent mauve]

Looks like townInterior_2 is fussing now

[autumn tide]

aw

damn map-making is hell

[obtuse wigeon]

(Oh how I wish the log viewer has line wrapping)

[autumn tide]

and i thought advanced moves were hard-

[latent mauve]

And because it's calling out the tsx, I have to ask: are your tilesets properly embedded in the map TMX files?

[autumn tide]

uhh probably not?

lemme see

checked in tiled, apparently two weren't?

[latent mauve]

Now that they are embedded, check that they aren't climbing

[autumn tide]

but it still can't find the location after patch reload-

[autumn tide]

will do!

nope, still just those two, and still no climbing

[next plaza]

Okay, so the deserializer itself has docs in the SpaceCore readme:

The UI system itself, though, does not

[latent mauve]

Which two were they?

[autumn tide]

spring objects and paths

[next plaza]

That being said, I think I have an example of the UI loading somewhere

[latent mauve]

Okay, well, townInterior_2 was the tsx it was failing to find, so what does your line for that one look like?

[autumn tide]

also thank you so much for your help

[next plaza]

Here's a gist for XML UI examples (though you should ignore test.ms and content.json, that was for stuff that got discontinued): https://gist.github.com/spacechase0/9d7e7c29567fb902cadb82a7ff86af49

I think I posted a gif somewhere here

[autumn tide]

-# (also love the new display name LOL)

[latent mauve]

I need the line right under that one 😛

[autumn tide]

OOF okay lol

 <tileset firstgid="1" name="townInterior_2" tilewidth="32" tileheight="32" tilecount="0" columns="0"/>
 <tileset firstgid="1217" name="townInterior" tilewidth="32" tileheight="32" tilecount="0" columns="0"/>

[latent mauve]

Okay, so, you see how the townInterior_2 tileset doesn't have the image source line before it closes?

[autumn tide]

oh yeah, it doesn't

should i add one in then?

[latent mauve]

That means it's probably not embedded.

[autumn tide]

shittt okay

hm, is there anything beyond just adding in the image source thing that I should do?

[obtuse wigeon]

check the "Embed Tilesheet" checkbox when adding the tilesheet, should be under where the path to the tilesheet is

[autumn tide]

okay..

[patent lance]

@next plaza: find xml UI example (30m ago)

[next plaza]

-# it'll go back to kittyKAR2casey between demo weekends

[next plaza]

Found it! (Though it includes the no-longer-available scripting stuff) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/1040141561788375121/devenv_3ipD32n58u.mp4?ex=69102bd1&is=690eda51&hm=aa13a80fc9f09ad35bf77cf903c2cda1c26c8f13900141770bb2275fe4341fa7&

[obtuse wigeon]

I was wrong, it's "Embed in map", sorry! (bottom right checkbox)

[autumn tide]

oh!

uh, how can i do that to a pre-existing tileset?

[latent mauve]

Alternatively, I think if you already have an unembedded tileset, there's the "Embed Tileset" buton down below.

[autumn tide]

i tried that, but nothing changed :(

[latent mauve]

second from the left on the bottom did nothing?

[autumn tide]

already embedded, apparently

..should i restart tiled?

[obtuse wigeon]

What's the .ms filetype? never come across that before, a quick search says its the Autodesk MAXScript which I'm not sure if I believe (I know that's the scripting, I'm just quite interested)

[next plaza]

MiniScript. Same thing that Farmtronics uses

[latent mauve]

honestly, I'm so used to fiddling with the code, that at this point I'd have opened up SeedShop in Visual Studio Code and transplanted it from there. But that's not something to do if you don't know what you're doing.

[autumn tide]

i have no clue what i'm doing-

[next plaza]

If you go back to 1.5 (probably), you can actually compile where I left off with the scripting on one of the branches of my repo

[latent mauve]

I can try it real quick if you send me the most recent TMX

[autumn tide]

i'd love that!

[next plaza]

It's the spacecore-ext-engine branch

[autumn tide]

thank you so much :)

[autumn tide]

what's your nexus profile so I can credit you?

[next plaza]

Only other example I can find on gist is the tool that let you teleport a few tiles ahead <removed wrong link>

That's not the right link

https://gist.github.com/spacechase0/68e562e0da0aebc96159c79bed2f6ac9

[obtuse wigeon]

www fascinating, I had no idea that existed, I shall take a closer look at that, would be quite useful!

[next plaza]

There's a video of that somewhere too

[next plaza]

I mean you can't use it, it never get released

I kinda want to do it again using a different scripting thing (unsure what at the moment)

Test custom collection menu using that (can't find a gist for it though) https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/1042918150284517376/StardewModdingAPI_IEADUbqshL.mp4?ex=69106277&is=690f10f7&hm=71b4d948587e96ff3bf208f94124540da44872a7266250bc53192e6c5da7a590&

[obtuse wigeon]

Lua hehe

perfectly designed for things like that

[latent mauve]

okay, I have no idea how you ended up with the tileset dimensions being 32x32 with no rows or columns, but I think I've got it fixed by transplanting the code from a brand new embedded tileset of townInterior and townInterior_2 xD

[autumn tide]

okay thank you so much-

[latent mauve]

my Nexus profile is fireredlily, the same as here. 🙂

[autumn tide]

i don't know what or how or why i did that either-

[next plaza]

Better video of the UI script: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/156109690059751424/1042662974185283614/StardewModdingAPI_Ix8d847yar.mp4?ex=6910c650&is=690f74d0&hm=51aa849686c76d1cea4f7b705a2f108e5620c652c040396af4d42c9018bc7d75&

Can't find the teleport tool though

[next plaza]

Lua is something I was explicitly avoiding back when I first did this, and I'm gonna do the same thing if I do it again

[next plaza]

Also featuring one of my favorite placeholder images: kitten bee

(I think my game project has that image in there too, still)

[obtuse wigeon]

your dislike of Lua is well known XD

I absolutly lkove the kitten bee

[autumn tide]

@latent mauve ..okay gonna restart the game again-

[latent mauve]

comparison as to what was fixed so it at least wasn't erroring in Tiled anymore

fixed is on the left

[autumn tide]

OMG OMG OMG OMG IT WORKSSS

TYSM1!!!

AAAA

TRIUMPH

[latent mauve]

okay, so based on the error logs, you're gonna have the same issue with your other basement variants

based on what I showed you, do you think you can fix those on your own? Or do you need more instruction?

[autumn tide]

still! one working is good lol

hm, would i be able to paste your edits into the others?

[merry river]

poor claude struggling with the same shit i was struggling with yesterday

[autumn tide]

it works tho!!!

i've been working on this for over a week

[uncut viper]

claude is actually quite unique in that I have no idea how they set the tiles to 32x32 and I've never seen anyone else do that. it's impressive in it's own way /lh

[autumn tide]

i'm just special like that

[next plaza]

I tried larger tiles once

In the dark ages

It was fun, everything broke

[uncut viper]

doing it on purpose is much different from somehow doing it on accident

[next plaza]

Even after moving back to a normal map

(Something to do with a static field for the pixel scale in the custom xtile version, if I remember correctly)

[obtuse wigeon]

If it was a map made from scratch and not one made from a Stardew map as a base, I can see how that can happen, Tiled by default sets tiles to 32x32

[uncut viper]

i would still like someone to make a working isometric map someday

[latent mauve]

My process was basically:

• Open in Tiled
• Add a new tilesheet with embed map checked for the broken tilesheets
• Add a random tile and save it so the TMX updates
• Remove that random tile and save again
• open the TMX in Visual Studio Code, find the new sheets with the correct "image source" line under it
• Copy everything after the gid and name (like the attached image)
• Paste that into the "broken" tileset line that had a tileheight of 0, replacing everything for that line except the gid and name part
• Reopen in Tiled after saving to make sure the images loaded
• Remove the unused extra tilesets

[uncut viper]

the others were 16x16 though

[next plaza]

Many people have, including myself. you didn't say in stardew

[obtuse wigeon]

That is confusing then XD

[uncut viper]

i trust my audience to put the pieces together is all

[next plaza]

ponders the new code crime idea

Can't think of anything fun I'd want to do with it though.

[obtuse wigeon]

That trust is heavily misplaced for those who are pedantic enough

[next plaza]

I'll just make stardew3d have an isometric view

[uncut viper]

or they're just not my audience perhaps

[obtuse wigeon]

"Not my monkeys, is my circus"

[autumn tide]

okay..

[latent mauve]

Honestly, you can copy/paste my changes as long as you don't replace the original first gid and name part of your broken files

Because that keeps your tiles in place so you don't have to remake the map.

[autumn tide]

got it, i'll try!

[latent mauve]

here, left is old, right is what you want

Only change the highlighted bit

[autumn tide]

thank you so much lol

[latent mauve]

the tilecount and columns being 0 is why you had all the Red Xs in Tiled, LOL

Tiled was basically saying "There are no tiles in this set!"

[autumn tide]

ohhhh okay

[autumn tide]

damn so that's (part of LOL) what i did

uh, anything I should do with this?

[lucid iron]

You can embed the tsx if you want

The pro is that you won't mess up map because you misplaced the tsx file

Con is you can't share the tsx

[autumn tide]

..uh, it's just the vanilla ones, so just go into tiled and click the embed thing?

[patent lance]

New quote added by head_in_the_cl0uds as #6732 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1436774140634730646)

[lucid iron]

Yeah

[autumn tide]

oh, turns out they're just duplicates

ig i'll delete them then?

[lucid iron]

You can but you gotta be careful, may lose tiles n gotta redraw

[autumn tide]

i got backups

[uncut viper]

do you realize that in choosing to screenshot instead of uploading your log you are cropping out the information that says what the error actually is

[autumn tide]

oh, it's just that for the error, still trying to see what i did before sending the log

[narrow owl]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/translations.md

ive been looking at this but don't quite understand what to do when I write my file, could anyone help me understand?

[cunning kiln]

I'm posting this here because I'd like the opinions of other mod creators, but it's not about making mods themselves, so please let me know if it should go somewhere else.

What do you do when someone posts a rude comment on your mod in Nexus?

Just ignore it/them?

[autumn tide]

If it is just explicitly rude, I would

[uncut viper]

have you looked at the example on that page a little bit down? if so can you xplain which part in particular you need elaboration on?

[autumn tide]

I think you can moderate comments?

[urban patrol]

if it’s in violation of nexus TOS you can also report it

[uncut viper]

I delete their comment, regardless of whether its directed at me or someone else. If its egregious enough it gets reported, yeah. Sometimes I also block them if I feel particularly annoyed

[cunning kiln]

The problem is, I'm not sure how to read it. It feels rude to me, but I'm bad at people (ironically, the post is about someone saying I'm not on the spectrum, when being on the spectrum makes me unable to know how I should respond.)

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/19854?tab=posts&comment_id=161485468 - just in case anyone has thoughts.

[autumn tide]

OMG I LOVE THAT MOD!!!

i have it, it's great :)

[cunning kiln]

Thank you!

[uncut viper]

yeah, I'd classify that as a rude comment personally

[autumn tide]

ugh, sorry about that :(

[urban patrol]

sounds like they didn’t even try the mod too

[merry river]

yeah, that's such an unnecessary comment

[autumn tide]

ikr! like cmon

[uncut viper]

regardless of who its coming from or what their intentions are, it makes unflattering assumptions about you in order to dismiss and deride your mod

[autumn tide]

ppl know themselves and their disabilities

[cunning kiln]

So hiding/deleting the comment wouldn't be an overreaction?

[autumn tide]

nope!

[uncut viper]

nope

[autumn tide]

not to me, at least

[merry river]

it's not adding anything to the conversation anyway

[urban patrol]

not at all, it’s your mod page and you’re allowed to decide what it displays

[merry river]

as mod user, i often go to mod comments to check what issues people have run into, if a mod is outdated

so it helps neither someone who is looking to download this mod nor you, the modder

[cunning kiln]

Thank you all for your feedback! I've hidden the comment (there doesn't seem to be a delete option, but hiding it does the same thing.)

[autumn tide]

yup! the link just said that the comment wasn't available :)

[urban patrol]

these are the TOS that protect you from rude comments btw

[merry river]

this is less of a technical question and more of a "what do i do now" question
I have to make the schedule for my npc and i don't know how and where to start. how would you go about that? (i still have to fix some parts of the interior map but i need a break from that lol)

[uncut viper]

have you started with the Schedule data wiki page (/gen bc I feel like it probably offers a better explanation than I could)

[autumn tide]

hm, maybe just think about where your npc would want to go on a daily basis and draft a few average days before coding?

[urban patrol]

!npc i advise looking at the tutorial here for a general idea

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[uncut viper]

the guide also a very good idea

[urban patrol]

yeah i always advise tutorial (if available) in one tab and the wiki in the other so you have both available

[merry river]

yeah, it's not about setting up the schedule.json as of now, i do have some templates for that as well. i think it's more of a writing aspect here i think? i'm just not sure how to tackle this

[urban patrol]

i usually start by deciding what hobbies and likes/dislikes my character has. then i use that to determine where they should go. for example, if they’re a big reader then they might visit the library multiple times a week. if they’re shy maybe they don’t leave the house very often. if they’re very in tune with nature they might spend a lot of time walking in the forest or mountains

[gentle rose]

I see the comment was already removed but anyone attempting to undiagnose you over the internet is inherently rude and deserves to have their comment deleted and to be blocked from your page. I'm sorry you had to deal with this

[urban patrol]

@lucid iron out of curiosity and so that i can warn my one android player if i use it, what’s the feature in MMAP that throws an error?

i’m definitely adding it as a dependency but i have to figure out whether to make it true or false/how much work i need to do to safeguard it

[lucid iron]

The building draw layer applies to the build menu as well. This menu is different so my harmony patch doesn't work. I catch it and emit a warning (yellow text) because the actual building placed in world is fine

There is nothing for you a content mod to do

[urban patrol]

cool, thank you

[narrow owl]

// i18n/default.json
{
   "item.name": "Pufferchick",
   "item.description": "A tiny hybrid between a pufferfish and chicken."
}

for example this: suppose I have multiple items... Do i replace [item] with the actual name of the item like ex: "SeaweedSalad.name": "Seaweed Salad"?

and then I call it in the item making thing?

and like when I have multiple does how many {} I use matter?

like
{
"stuff"
},
{
"Stuff2"
}

[urban patrol]

the way to call it in your json is like this:

    "Format": "2.8.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Objects",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick": {
                    "DisplayName": "{{i18n: item.name}}",
                    "Price": 1200,
                    ...
                }
            }
        }
    ]
}```

as for having multiple items, i would use more descriptive keys than item.name--for example, Pufferchick.DisplayName and Pufferchick.ItemDescription for a pufferchick item, and Chickerpuff.DisplayName and ChickerPuff.ItemDescription for a Chickerpuff item

[narrow owl]

yeah, but do you need a new pair of {} for ever set of things?

[urban patrol]

no, all key/value pairs in your default.json should be inside one set of brackets

  "Pufferchick.DisplayName": "Pufferchick",
  "ChickerPuff.DisplayName": "Chickerpuff",
}```

[narrow owl]

ok, ty

i think I understand now!

[fathom hound]

Hi! This requires C# right, since there's no way to "give" monsters items?

-# ty!

[molten briar]

I’m new to modding but if someone could help me, I’m trying to do my own rendition of the seasonal cute characters portraits. Any advice or suggestions would be really appreciated. Feel free to dm me if necessary!

By trade I’m a screenwriter, and I wanted to do a dialogue expansion as well. I’ve played around with it but I can’t quite figure out the formatting and coding.

[lucid iron]

take a look at appearances

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_Seasonal_Outfits_via_Appearances

the bulk of the work is gonna be drawing all those outfits (it's a lot)

[devout otter]

Are you planning on making your own designs, or are you using Seasonal Cute Characters as base?

[lucid iron]

might help to do a single character first

[molten briar]

I was going to use their sprites and do my own versions of the portraits.

[molten briar]

I’ve done some mock up work on several to get an idea of what I’m trying to do.

[lucid iron]

yea i mean

draw say all 4 seasons of pierre

do the content patcher stuff to get him in

after doing a whole set you know what u gotta do for all other characters

[hallow prism]

i'm not sure which mod you are considering using as a base, but if i remember, some of them don't have purely open permissions

althought it depends of a lot of factors, it may be a good idea to double check that if you intent to release that at some point (of course, personal use is different)

for dialogues i suggest looking at a simple mod adding dialogues

and the wiki page for them

it will help getting the basic idea of how to add them, then there's several nice tricks to know depending of what you want to do

[molten briar]

Yeah it’s just all the formatting and stuff. I’ve downloaded some dialogue mods to see if I could just use their formatting and replace the dialogue with mine. But I’d like to learn how to actually do it

[hallow prism]

by looking how it's done and looking at the mod documentation (CP has a good documentation) and then asking questions?

[devout otter]

Yar, expanding of what Lumina said, Seasonal Cute Characters have designs from various people, and some of them require permission if you want to use their designs for release. Other mods usually make their own designs/sprites for those they couldn't obtain permissions for.

[molten briar]

I haven’t decided if I want to publish it just yet. The dialogue mod I would publish. But I will look and double check for sure

[merry river]

okayyy, tried to get a provisional schedule and dialogue file to work, but there must be an error in my coding which i can't figure out
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f41bbf1ec4514a99a81fb25614227c1a

unexpected character "s" but i am not sure where my formatting went wrong

provisional? provisory? who knows

oh wait, the brackets are off, i think

[hallow prism]

you yave two commas

at the end of each lines?

[merry river]

i actually referenced another mod that worked with those two commas at the end but i can remove them again. didn't work with one comma either, got the same error :(

[hallow prism]

fix the commas, test again and see if other fixes are needed

i'm pretty sure two would cause issue

you may however

miss another " at the end

"spring": "610 Forest 51 71 2 0/630 Forest 83 51 3 0/900 ArchaeologyHouse 21 5 0 0/1400 Beach 13 26 3 0/1730 Saloon 6 17 0 2/1930 PeiMingHouse 9 5 0 \"Strings\\schedules\\{{ModId}}_Peiming:PeiMingHouse.000\",,

[deep pier]

lowkey forgot what the manifest.json file is for

[hallow prism]

because one of them is part of \"Strings\\schedules\\{{ModId}}_Peiming:PeiMingHouse.000\"

so what is closing the schedule string?

[hallow prism]

the manifest infos

(mod name, mod id, mod author, if it's a C# or content pack, for what mod and such)

[merry river]

ohh let me try this!

[deep pier]

if im converting a dog/cat texture pack to add them instead of replace them what do i do wiht the manifest .json

[deep pier]

also how do i make things look codey on disc again

[deep pier]

for personal use

[hallow prism]

i prefer no pings

[deep pier]

my apologies

[hallow prism]

!haiku (maybe commands will work for me one day)

[deep pier]

ill turn it off

[hallow prism]

of course it doesn't work for me

[deep pier]

!haiku

what is this

@unreal spoke do u mind helping me a bit more if thats ok

[hallow prism]

!codeblock

[ocean sail]

You can embed code in Discord using a series of three ` :
```
Your code can go here
Even if not a haiku
Just an example
```

For syntax highlighting, add the language code on the same line as the first
``` (with no space, like ```json).
The usual codes are cs (C#) and json.

To use this command, type !codeblock.

[deep pier]

i see

[hallow prism]

Official Suggestion (not really), have !haiku as an alias for this command because it's how i remember it 😄

[merry river]

Okay, smapi is not throwing an error any more but neither the schedule nor the gift tastes are loading in the game. can't talk to the npc either

[hallow prism]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[hallow prism]

how do you know they aren't loading?

[urban patrol]

(you can use the command patch summary YourModIdActuallyWrittenOut in the SMAPI console to see which patches are and aren't applying)

[deep pier]

if im converteing a mod for personal use can i jsut ger rid of the update keys in the manifest

[urban patrol]

also, make sure you're 1) including them if you're using multiple json files 2) loading a blank json that only contains {} if you're using EditData instead of Load

[urban patrol]

yes

you'll get grey text in the console that there's no update key though

[deep pier]

yeah ive seen that with mods ive downloaded before

'this mod has no update keyts in its manifest blah blah blah'

[urban patrol]

yep

[merry river]

i used look up anything to check the npc, there's no schedule loaded and the gift tastes are only the default ones

[urban patrol]

!json can we see all relevant files

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[merry river]

yes, give me a moment

[hallow prism]

i prefer no pings 🙂

[merry river]

my bad, I keep forgetting that replying immediately pings

[deep pier]

and if im not gonna need a config.json im assuming a configschema part in the content.json is unneeded

im looking at an wxisting mod and a mod i want to convert and just seeign whats there and what i need to make similar

and also a template some dude sent

[urban patrol]

i wouldn't just delete the config without checking where it's used elsewhere in the code

but if you're building from scratch then yes you don't need config

[deep pier]

okk

basically

im tryna convert a mod to add new pets instead of replace. and im looking at elles cuter dogs as reference

because ive never done this before

[merry river]

content.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/08bd4512e7fe4d4397c5b36c465b9e0d
dialogue: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/5fa6c3bf5dc745e5b579dcc3b3f818ed
gifttastes: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ea6bc724480f4876a224f2776175bbce
schedule: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8b5d2504b8da43c0a252787f200b0e13

[urban patrol]

gotcha yeah if you just yoink their assets for personal use you can build it from scratch easy

[merry river]

and obviously, the schedule and dialogue have some placeholder entries so i can see if it works at all

wait, do i only have to add Format: 2.8.0......

is this the reason

[urban patrol]

no ignore that

that's only relevant for your content.json

can you send your dispo as well

[merry river]

sure!

[urban patrol]

however just glancing at this i see that the target of your dialogue is incorrect. it should match whatever you loaded the blank to, in this case Characters/Dialogue/{{ModId}}_Peiming,

[merry river]

dispo: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4164fae2b83a4405a5cde8dcdd2c13ef

[urban patrol]

double check everywhere you mention your NPC's internal name and make sure they all match

ah yeah you need to make your character's internal name (the key under entries in your Data/Characters edit) {{ModId}}_PeiMing and make sure everything references that

[merry river]

i...am not sure what you are referring to

[urban patrol]

in your disposition, the line immediately under Entries: { is the key, which is your character's internal name. "PeiMing" should be {{ModId}}_PeiMing, and then everywhere that references your character's internal name, such as the targets of the blank json loads, should match the internal name

right now you're adding a character named PeiMing, loading a blank for a different character named {{ModId}}_PeiMing, and then trying to edit a nonexistent file Characters/Dialogue/PeiMing (because it was never loaded)

[merry river]

Ooooh!

[deep pier]

oh i need a format thingy bit but idk what it does

[urban patrol]

it should be 2.8.0

you can always check the current version in CP docs

[deep pier]

ok i wont question but i will

idk what that number means

[urban patrol]

it's just what version content patcher is on, and it tells the game how to migrate older versions

[deep pier]

ohhh

[spiral lion]

hello!
does anyone know where the trash bear event is coded??? cant find it

[gentle rose]

the event where it cleans up the town? I think it may be hardcoded

[merry river]

i never really understood what this thing does and it finally clicked, haha

[deep pier]

ok hopefully it works now

[urban patrol]

yay!

double yay!

[deep pier]

im just testing the first skin i converted

[ornate locust]

Hardcoded

[deep pier]

and if it does that means im doing it right

and can do the rest the same

[ornate locust]

They're loosening up the trash bear code in 1.7 IIRC

but not yet

[gentle rose]

yup, looks like it’s getting an event in the actual assets

[deep pier]

yeah uh i defo did not enough or smth wrong and feel stupid because so much red lines

[gentle rose]

I wonder why it got a numeric event ID though

[urban patrol]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[deep pier]

im sure its a simple fix but idk what

[spiral lion]

oh okay, thanks! :))

[gentle rose]

maybe it already had one in the c# ig

[deep pier]

https://smapi.io/log/e1141646f2e84bf7bff08abd7d3ffab8

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 26 C# mods and 17 content packs.

[deep pier]

yeah uh im sure its obvious what i did but idk

probably forgot like 1 bracket

[urban patrol]

is your mod jujutsu pets? i'm confused at the event repeater and CP-A errors

[gentle rose]

what do you have as your format?

[deep pier]

yes that

not mine

but the one im tryna convet

[deep pier]

2.8.0

lol i think i found what i did wrong

[urban patrol]

is it in quotes?

[deep pier]

forgot the big brackets for the whoke thingy

[urban patrol]

ah

[deep pier]

ima try again and let u guys see if it goes wrong

[merry river]

okay, i changed the internal name and now my portraits and sprites won't load

i changed the targets to the internal name accordingly

[urban patrol]

check your target loads for those too. probably you were loading them to Portraits/PeiMing

did you reload? are you seeing errors in your log?

[merry river]

no red error, at least. i'll load up again, one sec

[deep pier]

no that wasnt the issue dang it

[urban patrol]

you have to capitalize the M maybe?

normally capitalization isn't a huge issue but

[finite ginkgo]

Target capitalization shouldn't matter in CP

[urban patrol]

hmm

what are you seeing if they aren't loading?

[deep pier]

https://smapi.io/log/093e14a15cb84446a4e5d5de12bbb642

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 26 C# mods and 17 content packs.

[merry river]

huh, restarted the game and lookup anything shows me the schedule at least

still not the specific gift tastes though, gotta check if i changed the target there actually

[deep pier]

this is one of six

but i havent done them yet becuase i need to make sure i do right

[urban patrol]

you're missing a changes block

[deep pier]

hah

ah

now should this work

also the icon thing is hard

[urban patrol]

also, if you weren't aware, {{ModId}} is a token that CP automatically replaces with your Mod Id. you don't need to write it out when you're writing JSON

[deep pier]

uhh

line 10?

i was sort of just replacing hte stuff in quotes from elles cuter dogs

[urban patrol]

9 and 10, yes. if your mod id is Cloudy.jjkpets then you can replace that with {{ModId}}.DivinieTotality (assuming divine totality is the kind of pet?)

[deep pier]

yes it is

so uh do i replace it with {{ModId}} in lines 9 and 10

or am i misunderstadning

[urban patrol]

yep! i mean you don't have to but it makes it easier on you

[deep pier]

ahh

sick

[urban patrol]

same thing with the texture and wherever you loaded the texture

[deep pier]

so

in that middle put i can put

flip

liek that?

this is the manfiest

[urban patrol]

sorry can you point out what you changed

[deep pier]

11 and 12

[urban patrol]

yes, assuming your texture load loads to Mods/{{ModId}}/DivineTotality

(and icons)

[deep pier]

idk how the whole folders situaiton should work

what should i be naming the folder in relations to the mod name

[urban patrol]

you can organize your folders however you like. contrary to what it looks like, a target isn't actually a filepath

[deep pier]

okay glad

to hear that but idk what a target is then

[urban patrol]

as long as your FromFile field matches the literal structure of your mod, you could load to the target FluffyUnicorn and it wouldn't matter

[deep pier]

how the hell do it find the images then wth

[urban patrol]

a target is sort of like telling the game where to store things

load from box A, put it in box B, and then fetch it from box B

[deep pier]

uh

[urban patrol]

some people prefer their folder structure to mirror the vanilla game's, but it's not necessary

[deep pier]

do i need to underdstand

im trying smapi one more time hopefully shoudl work

[urban patrol]

nah as long as you accept that targets aren't actual physical spaces

[deep pier]

ah the reds gone away its yellow now

but its ignoring the divinetotality

[urban patrol]

there are some times that the target does matter, like in the case of NPCs (see above), where the game expects to fetch portraits for an NPC very specifically from Portraits/NPCInternalName, but for textures it doesn't matter

[deep pier]

i probably should have tried writing it more from scratch rather than replacing elles cuter dogs

[urban patrol]

can you send the log? also, it wasn't a bad idea to reference an existing mod. we often recommend it (as long as said mod is updatede for 1.6)

[deep pier]

https://smapi.io/log/dfddeca8368a46ae90e55cf90a91da0d

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 26 C# mods and 17 content packs.

[deep pier]

sometthing to do with the when field

[urban patrol]

that's probably a config option that elle added

this is the potential problems i was referring to when i said you can't just yeet the config section

the token doesn't exist because it was never defined in content.json as a config option

[deep pier]

im ngl i literally jsut copied one section referring to oene dog

[urban patrol]

if you don't need this patch to be conditional, you can delete the When line

[deep pier]

and replaced thw quotes part

[deep pier]

oh okayy

yeah i didnt need any config7

buecause unlike elles im not adding 324 or so breeds and dont need to select the ones i want to use

only 6 so i add all

[urban patrol]

yep, then you shouldn't need any When conditions

since you want all 6 to apply all the time

[deep pier]

one last try

(its not the last)7

no yellow line lookinggood

uh

ok

i create new farmer

[urban patrol]

did it crash when you got to the menu

[deep pier]

and go past the brown dog

[urban patrol]

you didn't load an icon texture

[deep pier]

and sends me to the main menu instead

shoot

[merry river]

alright, dialogue and schedule are finally loading as intended! but the gift tastes still don't

[deep pier]

did not know how that works as well/

[urban patrol]

you can't reference textures that haven't been loaded. you'll need 2 addtl patches, one to load the sprites and one to load the icons

[deep pier]

ooh

wth that gonna look like

[urban patrol]

did you change the gift taste target from . to _ yet?

[deep pier]

u were waiting for me to experience this after fixign eveyrhting else werent u

[urban patrol]

"Action": "Load",
"Target": "whatever you set as the target, forward slashes instead of backslashes",
"FromFile": "the filepath of the .png"
}```

[urban patrol]

lmao as soon as you said uhh i knew exactly what happened, because i've done the same

[merry river]

i feel so stupid right now

[urban patrol]

don't, that's tiny and easy to miss

[deep pier]

do i need that for every variant

[merry river]

i have come to hate any kind of punctuation ever since i started this

[deep pier]

or one at the end

[urban patrol]

yes, but you can expedite the process by using {{TargetWithoutPath}} (i'll link docs one sec)

[deep pier]

hey thats what elles cuter dogs has

[urban patrol]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#TargetWithoutPath

it's very useful

[deep pier]

i dont get it

lowkey im lacking alot of knowledge

idek what a token is

[urban patrol]

a token is inside {{ }} and it's a special CP feature. it gets replaced by whatever (for example, {{ModId}} tells CP to look in the manifest and grab the UniqueID and replace the token with cloudy.jjkdogs)

[deep pier]

ooh

[urban patrol]

{{TargetWithoutPath}} tells CP to look at the target, ignore everything before the last slash, and find the file called whatever the last thing is (so Characters/Sam would look for Sam.png)

[deep pier]

so targetwithoutpath yup pretty much what i was about to say

this is so cool lowkey

can i use target without path then

and would i put mod id//divinetotality

[urban patrol]

yep, for all 6 varieties just list each target (Mods/{{ModId}}/Breed1, Mods/{{ModId}}/Breed2, etc)

you decide what your target is, but whatever it is, texture MUST match it

[deep pier]

might name cat1 cat 2 cat 3 and dog1 etc instead

[urban patrol]

Mods/{{ModId}}/blah is traditional but not required

yeah for sure, whatever you like

[deep pier]

for convenience

[urban patrol]

however you should include {{ModId}} so you don't overwrite anyone else trying to load to cat1

[deep pier]

so would targetwithoutpath loook at this and see divinetotality and find divinetotality.png

so for now do i need this for the png of the dog sprite and the png of icons

[urban patrol]

can you give me a concrete example? i can't say yes or no without seeing your patch

[urban patrol]

yes, probably one png for all the icons, and then one png for each spritesheet

[deep pier]

im also gonna need to figure out the pixel things on the icons better

wiht the x and y

[urban patrol]

yep, that would give you assets/DivineTotality.png and assets/icons.png

[deep pier]

cuz i put the png into some pixel art thing and im also just assumign each icon is 16x16 so the next one starts at like eg 32 + 1 for x

[urban patrol]

are you using VSC? you can auto format your bracket indentation

[deep pier]

liek the third one would be starting at 33 for its x value

idk im yapping

[deep pier]

visual studio code yes i am

[urban patrol]

yes, except indexes start at 0

[deep pier]

ah

[urban patrol]

so your first coord would be 0,0 and the second would be 16,0

[deep pier]

ohh

on the piel art thing it went up to 95,16 i got scard

scared

[urban patrol]

you can use any kind of art software like aseprite or photoshop to view coordinates on a png

[deep pier]

ykw i added the load bit and changed the 1 to 0 yolo ima try again

red lines of death

ok ive gone backwards

[urban patrol]

two steps forward one step back

i cannot help without a log though

[deep pier]

yep

i was parsing it rn

https://smapi.io/log/1fbf9ccb39744a24a64b38d833070d38

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 26 C# mods and 17 content packs.

[deep pier]

said smth about line 24

[merry river]

okay, changed the "." to an underscore but lookup anything isn't showing the specific gift tastes anyway. i'll look into it tomorrow

[urban patrol]

oh you need a comma in between every patch. it's easier to catch when your indentation is consistent

[deep pier]

yeah i lowkey js realised

i hovered over it

and it told me

[urban patrol]

whenever it gives an error about a specific line, you can usually look at the line above it

oh great

[deep pier]

how do i make that

uh indentation consistent

[urban patrol]

i don't use VSC so idk the hotkey, but i know others in here do if they want to jump in

[deep pier]

u did mention earlier abt this mb

[urban patrol]

otherwise i'd look up auto-indentation vsc

[deep pier]

alr ill look it up rq

[urban patrol]

nah it's okay i'm throwing a lot at you lol

[deep pier]

idk

they said smth abt ctrl shift p

and so i did it

wait

format

this how it should look

[urban patrol]

yep!

[deep pier]

?

[urban patrol]

much prettier lol

[deep pier]

ive got the fattest grin on my face evertyhime i fix smth

feels so good

[urban patrol]

lol same that's why i love modding

[deep pier]

whats a patch

u said i neeed a comma after every patch

[urban patrol]

each action is inside a patch

for you it's the things inside the blue brackets

you have a total of 2 patches

[deep pier]

so do i need commas after each closing blue bracket

but not yellow/purple

oh yeah

it says the commas after purple brakcets are trailing

[urban patrol]

yep! technically not the last patch in the file, since there's not one that comes after it, but it doesn't hurt to have it because CP allows trailing commas

[deep pier]

and underlines them red squglly

[urban patrol]

you can fix it if the red bothers you but trailing commas are okay in stardew mods

[deep pier]

alight added the comma

gonna run again

[urban patrol]

!json also, if you weren't aware, this site acts as a json validator and can catch things like missing commas without you having to reload the mod each time

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[deep pier]

oml this would have helped

alot

no its lowkey fun running it

ur js begging smapi to not go red

[urban patrol]

while i'm at it, are you aware of patch reload

!reload

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

• Content Patcher pack: enter patch reload <your_mod_id> in the SMAPI console window. This will reload and reapply all your patches (but won't recalculate the ConfigSchema or DynamicToken sections if you use them).
• Translation files: enter reload_i18n in the SMAPI console window. If it's for a Content Patcher pack, also run patch reload afterwards.
• C#: see the Visual Studio hot reload or Rider hot reload feature.

To use this command, type !reload.

[deep pier]

no

[urban patrol]

it's a lifesaver, no more closing and opening the game 50 times

[deep pier]

well great cuz new error

[urban patrol]

this is one of very few cases where you must type out your mod id btw, because SMAPI doesn't know CP tokens

[deep pier]

im missing the file

or smth

i wrote it wrong probably

[urban patrol]

make sure the png is inside your mod folder and then make sure your filepath in FromFile is correct

[deep pier]

its in assets folder inside the mod folder

https://smapi.io/log/d1e46505cac84224a35192d1d9bb03fe

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 26 C# mods and 17 content packs.

[urban patrol]

hmm can you send a screenshot of the assets folder/mod folder

[deep pier]

oh i think i fixed it

there was a animals folder in the assets folder which had the images

i forgot that was between the assets folder and the images

[urban patrol]

that would do it, glad you figured it out

[deep pier]

HES HERE

along with everyone else

im so flippijg happy

[deep pier]

(vanilla pets)

he looks off centre but its ok

yeah defo off cetre

now i want to fix that

lemme also go look at marnies shop

[urban patrol]

you can't move things in the menu via code without C#, but luckily i don't think you need to: just open the png and move the icon to be in the center of the 16x16 square

[deep pier]

how

the icons png has 6 icons

[urban patrol]

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[deep pier]

i think i js selected a slightly off 16x16 square

[urban patrol]

oh then nvm

[deep pier]

so like ima js need to move the x value by 1 or so

[urban patrol]

yeah, usually with things that are 16x16 you want them to be multiples of 16. 0, 16, 32, 48

[deep pier]

im js confused bc the png looks like its 95x16 pixels

when i go on the piel art qebsite

pizel

pixel

[urban patrol]

are you counting from 0?

[deep pier]

nah like when i hover over a pixel it says

the pixel coords

yeah that do look off centre

anyones i need a toulet breakn brb

[tawny lily]

Hi guys im kind of back

for all the 1 people that might still know me lmao I think I was active like two years ago

I was thinking of doing applied energistics from Minecraft but in stardew

Very rough idea but a main inventory computer system and some sort of autocrafting

maybe automate + any inventory mod already fulfills this niche though

I guess I'll make a gui framework with smooth scrolling then :')

[next plaza]

I was working on a mod like that many years ago

(ie. pre official multiplayer)

Alas, I don't have the code anymore

[tawny lily]

ooh that's too bad

do you happen to know if people still use hover labels? I know there's this other mod that does almost the same thing

[next plaza]

Hover labels?

[tawny lily]

my mod that adds tooltips

[next plaza]

Your name does seem familiar, did you ever publish any mods?

Ah

I guess that's why 😂

I don't know

[tawny lily]

hahaha that's fair

no I published like 8 of them a few years ago

travelling skill is my most popular one, even though it's the one I like least tbh

[next plaza]

I neveur used hover labels myself, but I probably would have if I had playebeen playing and saw it

Just looking at the nexus page

Oh, that's one I recognize

[tawny lily]

yeah it's one of those QOL things that you can't do without once you have it

the tooltips I mean

[next plaza]

Multiplayer Exp Sharing, and Watering Can Give Exp? Yeah, that's definitely why I recognize your name

[tawny lily]

yup those are mine too

[next plaza]

I'm on your nexus profile 😛

[tawny lily]

wowww

you found me 👁️

[next plaza]

I mean once you mentioned a single mod it's very easy to find 😛

Travelling skill did seem neat but I understand why you say it's one of your least favorite of yours

That's kinda how I felt about Magic (and also why I stopped maintaining it, and let other people take it over)

[deep pier]

@urban patrol which software thats free is the best, or the one youd suggest? aseprite and photoshop are both paid

[tawny lily]

why do you think I like it least? (legit question I am curious)

[urban patrol]

aseprite is free if you compile it yourself (there are instructions linked on the page i believe) but i can't help with it because i just use photoshop

[tawny lily]

🏴‍☠️

[deep pier]

got it

thanks

[next plaza]

Well, I'm just guessing based on how I would feel if it were my mod.

Basically, it's kinda like Magic: it seems neat conceptually, but kinda needs a bit more to be exciting to me, since most of the functionality was "a different way or slightly more efficient way of doing vanilla stuff".

Didn't mean that you'd feel the same way for the same reason, it just kinda feels like if it were my mod, it would give me a similar feeling for the same reason Magic did

And there's nothing wrong with that, to be fair. It just doesn't excite me, as a mod I would enjoy a lot (re:Magic)

And especially, a mod to put a bunch of development/maintenance on

[tawny lily]

I see, yeah I love travelling skill as an idea, as I think gradual improvement in movespeed really helps with burnout on a save

it makes it feel slightly less tedious after having to walk all the way across town for the 50th time

but it's essentially just a space core skill mod, it's not really "my" work

but it is my most popular mod I think

[next plaza]

Same with magic on this part

[tawny lily]

so it's like this cool idea, but kind of low effort implementation

[next plaza]

And on this part, like I said, Magic felt like using a slightly different resource to do the same stuff as before, for the most part

[tawny lily]

yeah fair

stardew valley is such a hard game to add gameplay mechanics to since it's already quite solid

[deep pier]

idk what u guys r on abt but fr

[tawny lily]

my fave mods are always qol ones

[deep pier]

theyre the ones youll always have installed

[tawny lily]

or mods that add more info to the game itself so you don't have to go to the wiki every time

[deep pier]

content stuff and whatever isnt like smth ill always be having in a save

[tawny lily]

hover labels really is my fave mod, figuring out how to draw the UI was verg satisfying

[deep pier]

but info/qol ull js always need

[tawny lily]

i dont necessarily mean content mods, more gameplay mechanics specifically

like extra skills or magic etc

[deep pier]

yeah

and whatever meant to include that my bad for lack of clarity

[next plaza]

Yeah, mechanics are the hard part

Fitting them in with everything else

But it's also my favorite type of thing to work on 😔

[deep pier]

mod making is so interesting

[tawny lily]

very fair

[deep pier]

im talking from a mod user standpoint so my opinons may differ

mod user only

i mean

[tawny lily]

i love visualizations and inventory systems cause i just like numbers

[gentle rose]

forget magic mods, who's making a science mod

[tawny lily]

example:

[gentle rose]

(/hj)

[tawny lily]

bro honestly

that's not a bad idea

[gentle rose]

right? but you'd have to do it so well to make it not irritating

(and not just a magic drop in replacement)

[tawny lily]

synthesising ores could be a cool reward for such a system?

honestly I've been burnt out on stardew for these past years so no in game reward seems nice anymore

[gentle rose]

I'm thinking general automation and machine efficiency stuff as well as things like that, yeah

[tawny lily]

ooh yeah

[next plaza]

One of my ideas involves a full tech/automation/logistics thing, but I'd probably need to change vanilla progression a lot for that to make full sense, which is.... eh

[next plaza]

see above

[tawny lily]

very hard and also automate exists and is pretty widely used