making-mods-general

[fast plaza]

sorry if thats a dumb question haha

[obtuse finch]

Is there a way to update the game to test mod without having to exit the game and wait for load in?

[autumn tide]

yup!

[obtuse finch]

Oh, may I know?

[fast plaza]

oop nvm think i found the api file nice

[autumn tide]

one sec, finding a link to explanation

[obtuse finch]

Very appreciate the help!

[autumn tide]

here's a link to the explanation! https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/troubleshooting.md#reload

just open console/terminal, type patch reload and then your mod ID!

[fast plaza]

hmm maybe I'm still a bit confused on how to get spacecore implemented - so I want to add a custom skill, it says I need to subclass Skill, which is in skills.cs, but I'm assuming I don't just copy in the Skills.cs file into my repo and I can't find an API for skills - am I missing something here or is there something else I need to do?

[autumn tide]

(sadly can't help but out of curiosity, what skill are you adding?)

[calm nebula]

You actually add it to your csproj

One second

[autumn tide]

love the new user lol

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/2017c2ce5f804d706db34f9a5cbdf00e3c7c4fe1/QualityRings/QualityRings.csproj#L22

[fast plaza]

I'm actually moving over a magic skill I already implemented for my mod Runescape Spellbook to use spacecore cuz I figured it was high time I use a framework actually designed for this stuff rather than just trying to make it myself haha

[autumn tide]

oh that's so cool!!

[calm nebula]

I cant be spooky anymore! It's November

[autumn tide]

nahhh you can still be spooky

[fast plaza]

huh. so if i do this to my csproj I can subclass from skills.cs? neat

[autumn tide]

...so i'm working on an event with a lot of moving objects, so i thought i'd make temp npcs to use as the objects for easy moving. the issue is, THE OBJECTS BREATHE BECAUSE I FORGOT TO DISABLE THAT 😭

[fast plaza]

hahaha

creepy

[autumn tide]

i know 😭 😭 😭

[fast plaza]

if I use this dll method should I still be using the API spacecore provides or is that not necessary anymore?

[next plaza]

More SpaceCore skills

[next plaza]

Some of the stuff in SpaceCores API aren’t available otherwise, so that’s up to you based on your needs.

The only things that aren’t there are things that involve subtyping classes. That’s something I want to fix at some point now with a redesign, but for now, API-SpaceCore and project-reference-SpaceCore have two completely different feature sets (for the most part).

[autumn tide]

hellooo uh are there any extra steps I should take when making a custom map (for an event) to have it implemented, other than just including the map in the folder and referencing it in the changeLocation command?

[gentle rose]

did you load it? I think (but am not sure) that you need to

[autumn tide]

nah, will do then lol

I'll also load all my tilesheets too then

[gentle rose]

that you don't have to do

(but some argue it's good practice)

[autumn tide]

oh

..then i won't heheh

alr anyone up for making pepper-krobus trenchcoat, seamonster, and raven sprites?

on behalf of the spicy krobus council (me, @devout otter , @worthy ermine, @hard fern)

..this must be very confusing to ppl who weren't on here like 12 hours ago-

[vernal crest]

Load them!

[autumn tide]

NEVER

..okay fine i will

[vernal crest]

And don't have them in the same folder as the map or loading them will be pointless

[autumn tide]

..they're in the same folder-

[vernal crest]

Wait

All your tilesheets? How many custom tilesheets did you make?

[autumn tide]

oh just imported some vanilla ones there bc i couldn't understand how to connect it otherwise

[vernal crest]

Oh then not only do you not load them, they should not be in your mod folder at all

Yeet them!

[autumn tide]

...im so confused

..how?

wouldn't that disconnect them from the map?

[vernal crest]

Get iro's tiled extension, it lets you use tilesheets from other folders without getting tilesheet climbing

[autumn tide]

hmmmmmm

okay

[vernal crest]

Not in tiled if you use the extension and not in game at all because the game will use the ones in its own content

[autumn tide]

ohh, so the files are just there to help the app?

[vernal crest]

Yes

[autumn tide]

uh, where might I find Iro's extension then?

[vernal crest]

Here are the instructions for the extension: #making-mods-general message

[autumn tide]

ty

[vernal crest]

Extension itself: #1399862293331972246 message

If you need help with it you can ping me or iro

[autumn tide]

thanks!!

[vernal crest]

The extension will make your life easier and help you contribute to a world in which people aren't unnecessarily uploading vanilla tilesheets and preventing their maps from being recolour compatible!

(Having the vanilla tilesheets in the same folder as the map prevents recolours from working on the map)

[autumn tide]

i think I got it!

i did! tysm :)

[quick sand]

anyone know how spacecore's furnitureextensiondata > tileproperties is affected by rotation? it doesnt seem to be tied to bounding box

[autumn tide]

hellooo are you guys aware of where letter textures are stored?

..literally just saw it fml

[quick sand]

loose sprites

if you mean the back grounds

[lucid iron]

It's not affected by rotation

If you had a 1x2 thing that rotates to 2x1, and you put tile prop on 0,1 (so the right tile), it'll simply no longer do anything post rotate

You can put another tile prop on 1,0

[quick sand]

hmmmm.. i see. thanks

[narrow owl]

@vernal crest https://smapi.io/json/none/dd5b40ae17bd43fc9d3f7320fc507082
could you take a quick look at this and see if everything looks correct???

[urban patrol]

i recommend you test it out so you don’t have to wait for a specific person to be online!

[narrow owl]

k, also do you know how I would get the id for specific fish roe?

like for example rainbow trout roe

or legend roe

[autumn tide]

oh, chu has a framework for that!

[narrow owl]

link?

[autumn tide]

peliQ, look it up on nexus lol

[narrow owl]

ty

[autumn tide]

just @ them if you have questions idk how it works lol

[narrow owl]

k

[brittle pasture]

you don't need peliq for that

[[Modding:Item_queries]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries

[brittle pasture]

look at FLAVORED_ITEM

allows you to spawn flavored variants of certain vanilla items (juice, roe, etc.)

[narrow owl]

k. ty

[autumn tide]

OH yeah, i think peliQ was for gifting?

[brittle pasture]

the two relevant peliq features are:

• allows give item trigger actions to use item queries (and thus support flavored items)
• allows the flavor of a flavored item query to be the result of another item query

discord stop spell checking flavored to flavoured pls

[narrow owl]

lol

[lucid iron]

smh selph deporting u from 🇨🇦 rn

[autumn tide]

gotchaaa okay, thanks

[calm nebula]

Smh can I move to Canada i sure apologize enough

[brittle pasture]

I will never be Br*tish

[lucid iron]

but yea what selph said, peliq is needed for case where u need multiple dynamic flavored item

vanilla can do single flavored item fine

[autumn tide]

why'd you censor british 😭 😭 😭

[lucid iron]

cus they r bri'ish

[narrow owl]

https://tenor.com/view/beans-on-toast-h3beans-on-toast-ethan-klein-ethan-h3-h3podcast-gif-25511467

[autumn tide]

EWWW

[worthy ermine]

bit late for that one

[narrow owl]

brit culture in a nutshell

[narrow owl]

lmao

[autumn tide]

god i'm so glad i was never exposed to british cuisine

[narrow owl]

same

[autumn tide]

i could never handle that shit

[narrow owl]

looks disgusting

[autumn tide]

those bitches conquered half the world for spices only to never use them smh

[worthy ermine]

for sure, it's nice to be able to be proud of your countries cuisine

[narrow owl]

fr, like u robbed places and had unlimited spices, could've made anything but no

[autumn tide]

BEANS N TOAST

[worthy ermine]

to be fair people complain when "we" do use foreign spices too

[narrow owl]

we?

[worthy ermine]

yes, you

[autumn tide]

aaah i sense that you are a bri'ish

[narrow owl]

nah man I just use indian spices, Im indian

[worthy ermine]

I AM NOT BRITISH 🤬

[narrow owl]

good

[autumn tide]

BRI ISH

[worthy ermine]

I was actually thinking about indian spices

[narrow owl]

can we just agree on one thing??? ||fuck the british||

||no offense to any brits||

[narrow owl]

lol

[autumn tide]

omg- 😭

[narrow owl]

why?? u brit?

lol

[worthy ermine]

Specifically banana curry pizza

[narrow owl]

what the fuck is that

[autumn tide]

nah lol

[narrow owl]

never hear of it and glad

people be glazing all asian food but not all is good

[autumn tide]

..thats odd but i'm not gonna judge...

openly

[narrow owl]

like curry banana pizza

[worthy ermine]

it's a pizza with pinapple, banana, chicken and curry

[narrow owl]

yuck

[autumn tide]

that doesnt sound THAT bad cmon

[narrow owl]

bro

look

at

the

[worthy ermine]

I'm not eating it, but it sure is available in every pizzeria

[narrow owl]

list

[narrow owl]

lol y

[autumn tide]

...hm

[uncut viper]

do you guys mean to be in #town-square

[narrow owl]

oops

we got a bit off topic 😭 lmao

[autumn tide]

oh sorry this just devolved from a modding topic-

[narrow owl]

yeah lol

[autumn tide]

okay our debate shall continue there

[worthy ermine]

idk but somehow there are still people on the pineapple pizza debate when that exists

[autumn tide]

i bid thee farewell, fellow modders

for like 5 mins till i have my next problem

[narrow owl]

i like pinneaple pizza

[narrow owl]

gl

[lucid iron]

@shut edge desc thing fixed in 1.5.1

[narrow owl]

god typing out every single thing for fish pond is annoying

[autumn tide]

alrrr so my custom map isn't showing up during my event

lemme send my json one sec

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[narrow owl]

@autumn tide i would like to request details about ur dwarf mod, sounds cool

[autumn tide]

ooh i'd love to know what you're curious about! it was originally a krobus mod and is still more krobus-centric but the dyanamic is too cute to pass up so dwarf's getting expanded too lol

[autumn tide]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/2677fa918fab4840af19e1119df09ad4

[narrow owl]

just like whats the mod about

[autumn tide]

I'm getting this error:

[narrow owl]

is it expanding on the war?

[autumn tide]

[Content Patcher] Patch error: (CP) MY MOD?!?!?!?!??!?!?! > {{ModId}} Events > Code/Events.json > Destroyed Basement Loader has a FromFile which matches non-existent file 'Assets/Maps/LewisBasementDestroyed1.png'.

[narrow owl]

lewis basement?

[autumn tide]

hmmm let's talk about it in the creative writing thread i'll ping you there

[narrow owl]

k

[urban patrol]

are you trying to load a map? a map can't be .png

[autumn tide]

..oh shit it's not supposed to be a png-

[urban patrol]

you want .tmx or .tbin

[autumn tide]

oh, it is a tmx?

[urban patrol]

yeah but your FromFile says .png

[fervent horizon]

Are you loading or patching?

[autumn tide]

..oh shit

I'll fix that then, thanks so much for catching it lol

[urban patrol]

load or edit doesn't matter, it still shouldn't be .png

[autumn tide]

got it, lemme see if it works now!

...did not work :(

[urban patrol]

what errors are you seeing now, if any

[autumn tide]

oh, still looking it lol

okay, looks like it's an error with my file

[narrow owl]

wait are comments not allowed in json?

i thought they were

[worthy ermine]

I thougt the orange meant they were a comment

is that not what it means?

[narrow owl]

??

[urban patrol]

they're allowed in json5 but json throws errors. CP does allow them though

[narrow owl]

orange? where?

[worthy ermine]

when you type like //text

it turns orange

[narrow owl]

so even though vs code is giving an error it should be fine?

[narrow owl]

oh yeah

[urban patrol]

the color depends on your software, it's not consistent

[worthy ermine]

is that not a comment

[narrow owl]

in vs its green

[narrow owl]

it is

[urban patrol]

yeah i work in n++ not VSC but i'm pretty sure you can change the language you view it as

[narrow owl]

k, this is anoying

[urban patrol]

i think adding a schema will also help error checking, but again, i don't use VSC so idk

[autumn tide]

alr, still broken :( i think one of the tilesets incorrect somehow but I'm genuinely not sure how or why.

gonna upload my map file and send the error here

[uncut viper]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[ornate locust]

laughing at that map name. Oh god, what did the shorts do now

[autumn tide]

uh i rather not put the log here bc my computer has my name and such, but I'll look at it myself

[autumn tide]

heheh

[uncut viper]

that snippet you sent already has your computer name in it

[urban patrol]

what you just posted has your full name in it

[autumn tide]

well, shit.

[urban patrol]

you had tilesheet climbing. i put your map into button's map fixer and it fixed it

https://stardew.button.gay/tools/mapfixer

[autumn tide]

time to temporarily drop off the face of planet while i recover from this-

[urban patrol]

you'll likely have to fix all of your maps if you recently switched to using the tiled extension

/deleted the vanilla tilesheets out of your mod folder

[uncut viper]

your map also uses tsx's, so if those also have issues, my fixer won't do anything about it since those are separate files

[urban patrol]

oh good to know

[elfin kindle]

just to double check, wtf do you do with the vanilla tilesheets if youre planning on releasing your mod? I remember vaguely that youre suppose to delete them once youre done and the game will rely on their own??

[urban patrol]

yes, but you'll have to fix tilesheet climbing errors

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[urban patrol]

but button's map fixer does this for you (among other things)

[shut edge]

thank you!

[urban patrol]

actually @uncut viper how do you feel about your map fixer being linked in this command? i know you've said you don't want your json tutorial to be in any commands, but i think the map fixer is super useful

[elfin kindle]

Awesome! Its always the climbing errors- and i was just about to check if it fixed it cus i really wanna clean up my stuff but i never quite understood how to fix the climbing thing so i gave up and moved on

[urban patrol]

yeah, you can either do it manually following the instructions above/on the wiki, or use the fixer

before the fixer i usually just ctrl-F'ed ..

[uncut viper]

map fixer in a command is fine but given how used that command is its probably not something id think should be up to one person to change it.
but also i cant change it anyway, and i dont know who originally made the command anyway

[urban patrol]

yeah we could probably just do !mapfixer instead maybe?

idk if we need mod approval to define new commands

[uncut viper]

shrugs. im not a mod author, i have no say in this

[urban patrol]

@outer glacier are we allowed to define new !commands? i think !mapfixer which links and explains button's map fixing tool could be useful

[uncut viper]

you dont need to ask about it, its a mod author role benefit at level 100

[haughty charm]

That would be perfectly okay

[urban patrol]

oh okay! i wasn't sure if there was etiquette about it

[uncut viper]

as long as you dont go against custom command etiquette (no random commands for no reason, no spamming them, dont change someone elses command without discussion, etc)

its in.... some github gist. somewhere. i dont remmeber where to find it

[haughty charm]

The only thing we ask is to not misuse it for irrelevant stuffs

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/j6UaDyL.png

[urban patrol]

sounds perfectly reasonable haha

[shut edge]

yay it works

[uncut viper]

https://gist.github.com/Pathoschild/927aa919a95cf0ddae542749bc9d9847#mod-author-roles
(found it)

[haughty charm]

Thank you, Button!

[urban patrol]

excellent

[uncut viper]

i avoid the possibility of accidentally going against command etiquette by never allowing myself an orange name in the first place

one simple trick etc etc

[urban patrol]

can't screw up if you don't have perms

do you have strong feelings about how to explain the map fixer?

[uncut viper]

as long as its explained correctly and also doesnt imply it'll fix every issue ever guaranteed

[urban patrol]

There is a (masked link) map fixer tool by Spiderbuttons that can fix common map errors such as tilesheet climbing. Upload your map(s) as a .tmx file(s) and click FIX to run. Your fixed maps will be downloaded as a .zip file and will need to be extracted in order to replace your old versions. It is not guaranteed to fix every map error.

is my proposal

[uncut viper]

id replace the last sentence with something like "Feel free to let Spiderbuttons know if you run into an issue it can't fix."

otherwise seems fine to me

[urban patrol]

okay!

[ocean sail]

New command added! You can use it like !mapfixer.

[urban patrol]

there isn't a list of commands i would need to add this to or anything, right?

[uncut viper]

not as far as i know

!mapfixer

[ocean sail]

Stardew Valley Map Fixer

There is a map fixer tool by Spiderbuttons that can fix common map errors such as tilesheet climbing.

Upload your map file(s) as .tmx and click FIX to run. Your fixed maps will be downloaded as a .zip file and will need to be extracted in order to replace your old versions.

Feel free to let Spiderbuttons know if you run into an issue it can't fix.

To use this command, type !mapfixer.

[narrow owl]

how do you make it so that something that isn't a fish can be placed into a fish pond

[hallow prism]

at some point it was hardcoded

i don't remember if now you can do it with the proper tag

[ornate trellis]

i made a mistake with my wedding event json and i cant find the error, i think ive been staring at the screen too long

then again i was always bad in getting what the smapi errors mean

[hallow prism]

what i would suggest is : try to create an entry with a context tag that is your item id context tag (you obtain it by holding your item and doing debug listtags in console)

if this doesn't work, call for help

[shut edge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/38732

[hallow prism]

you can get other pairs of eyes to check if you share the log and script

[urban patrol]

an irresponsible number of dogs is cracking me up

[shut edge]

i'm glad to hear

[ornate trellis]

here's the log, i guesss i did a token or soemthing wrong but idk anymore

[shut edge]

now if the thing would show up in my opt-in page...

[ornate trellis]

ignore the /t/n etc thats cuz i have them not in one line cough or else id get even more confused https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e21b9b33acca4b1eaa7ee4e4d8df7f2d

i looked at another custom wedding event to get it to work but hm...

[hallow prism]

i don't see the log

[ornate trellis]

ahg frick copy paste fail

https://smapi.io/log/97f1548ce9654bb5b69d570571b641d1

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 62 C# mods and 20 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[ornate trellis]

lmao oops

[hallow prism]

you have several {{i18n:{{KEY}}

[uncut viper]

{{i18n:{{KEY}}
dont know what this is supposed to be but you have it in both scripts

[hallow prism]

which sounds not right

[uncut viper]

and it doesnt have an ending brace set

[hallow prism]

jinx!

[ornate trellis]

frick, thats the wrong json then wth i fixed that- wait....

ok i fixed putting in the key but it still had the opening brackets...

[hallow prism]

take a bit of a break before returning to testing stuff, you deserve it

[narrow owl]

?

[urban patrol]

[[Modding:Context_tags]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags

[ornate trellis]

ok yeah i think i need a break i totally did the wrong frames for the wedding kissing for some reasons but hey the wedding technically works besides thast, yippie

[narrow owl]

using cp can you remove something from a tag

[urban patrol]

i don't know what you mean by remove something from a tag. do you mean you want to remove a context tag from an item?

[narrow owl]

yea, i think seaweed has the fish pond ignored and I want to remove it

[urban patrol]

hmm i'm not sure, let me see

[narrow owl]

ohk

[uncut viper]

it is very easy

[narrow owl]

what does the "fish_nonfish" tag do?

[uncut viper]

shrugs. dunno

[urban patrol]

oh excellent, i was looking at removeDelimited instead

[narrow owl]

where might I find out, its not listed

[uncut viper]

i dont have the answers you seek. i dont do stuff with fish and im not at my computer to read the decompile

[narrow owl]

k

[urban patrol]

!decompile if you can read C#, you can take a look yourself

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[narrow owl]

i cant lol but ty

[uncut viper]

removing things in general is very easy. you just editdata it to null

[urban patrol]

i see i see

[narrow owl]

ty'

[vast flicker]

Guys who do I add generic mod config menu to a mod that has a c#

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8351

I’m trying to add the generic mod config menu to this

[uncut viper]

you dont. not unless you take that mods source code and make the changes yourself

[vast flicker]

Oh

[forest cobalt]

Is there a forum or place i can ask for mod commissions?

[brittle pasture]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[vast flicker]

!mods

!mof

!mod

😞

[hallow prism]

try !help in #governors-mansion

[vast flicker]

!help

[ocean sail]

please get me off discord

To use this command, type !help.

[vast flicker]

Am I doing this wrong

[brave fable]

depends what you're trying to do

[vast flicker]

I’m trying to figure out how to add birthdays on the calendar

[urban patrol]

birthdays are determined by an NPC's Data/Characters entry

[vast flicker]

Oh okay!

[brave fable]

does this mod do what you're after?
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/7495

[vast flicker]

Yeah

[hallow prism]

hmm, i was sure the command was !help but maybe it was changed

[vast flicker]

But for the player

[hallow prism]

(still, it's not governor mansion here so...)

[brave fable]

you'll have to be a little more descriptive with your idea

i still don't fully understand haha

[vast flicker]

So basically I’m trying to make a mod where it shows birthdays and anniversaries without changing the happy birthday’s gifts, the anniversary on calendar was great until I figured out that I had to manually change the config in the file instead of in game and I wanted to add compatibility for people who has steam deck

Smth similar to anniversary on calendar but with content patcher and gmcm

[brave fable]

ah, i don't believe that's possible with CP.

[vast flicker]

Oh

[narrow owl]

how do you find the unique string ID for vanilla things

[brave fable]

if you've unpacked the game content, you can find most items in various files in the Data folder, e.g. Data/Objects, Data/Tools, Data/Fish, ...

[narrow owl]

k

[brave fable]

so given AnniversaryOnCalendar is a C# mod, it's not automatically parsed by CP to create a new GMCM page: C# mods need to include their own interface for GMCM and explicitly write out their own pages. in order to change config values during gameplay, it'd need to have done this.
bridging HappyBirthday and AnniversaryOnCalendar would mean reading the config of the former mod from the latter, and likely listening to any changes, which means a decent amount of reflection (accessing inaccessible values at runtime). it's not impossible, but cumbersome and probably a bit arcane if you're not used to using C#.
as for steam deck compatibility, i have no idea

[vast flicker]

I want to try to make my own version

[brave fable]

overall doable, but requires a-little-advanced C#

[vast flicker]

Sighs

At least I made this birthday hat for the icon

[vast flicker]

I wish I knew c#

[brave fable]

so did i, that's why i started making stardew valley mods it takes time, but it opens up a lot of career opportunities, such as making stardew valley mods

teaching a full crash-course in c# is outside the scope of this channel though, but there's plenty of resources and courses online

[vast flicker]

This is my first time

[quick sand]

ive been working through the free microsoft c# class. its good but intense. still not able to make my own mods yet but i can understand a bit when i decompile

[brave fable]

just like with all things, everyone starts knowing nothing, and with some learning and practice you'll improve in time

or alternatively if you really don't want to learn c# at all you've got the commissions page hahah

[vast flicker]

I don’t have money

[narrow owl]

https://smapi.io/json/none/b19afaca788d45269a3732a3fd975de5

do you know why it isnt letting me put my seaweed into the pond?

[hard fern]

The microsoft c# course is free

[vast flicker]

That’s good

[brave fable]

i don't know fishponddata, but i believe the issue is there's no context tag already applied to seaweed for item_seaweed

[hard fern]

What about the auto generated context tag?

[narrow owl]

oh, so i just have to add a tag to seaweed?

[brave fable]

you'd want to use its internal id, which would be item_o_152 i think (which is an automatically generated context tag using the form item, item type o for object, and the internal id 152)

[hallow prism]

the thing about C# is that it's harder to have someone guiding you on a detailled way, so you'll have to do more of the work yourself than with CP when people are able to guide you, provide you core elements, or even handhold you way more

[hard fern]

The id_o_

😔

Im too slow again

[hallow prism]

the ido sounds like a way of wisdom for SDV modding

[vast flicker]

Sorry if I sound like I’m complaining tbh

[hallow prism]

i kinda get it, you have an idea and there's many steps between you and the idea

it can be overwhelming and it's understandable you'd like for a shortcut to appears

[lucid iron]

so is the previous mod open source?

u can fork it if true

[uncut viper]

no, and it doesnt have open nexus permissions regardless

[brave fable]

sidenote, the Name of an entry in most data models isn't its item ID, but rather just the translated english name. the ID is typically the key to the data model (e.g. "152": {}), or the ID field inside the model if one exists

for legacy reasons, all items from before 1.6 use their sprite index in their spritesheet as an ID

[lucid iron]

then i guess its time to learn the terrible time of ui

[calm nebula]

Can't stay but I believe non fish cannot go into a fish pond

[hallow prism]

(and to obtain context tags, which you want here, you can do debug listtags when holding the item)

[narrow owl]

so i replace 152 with seaweed?

[calm nebula]

And there are a slightly handful of items that are hardcoded

So

[lucid iron]

i think u can do it all in the smapi render events if you dont mind some minor jank but

[hallow prism]

i know some stuff that was dehardcoded

[calm nebula]

I nominate someone not on mobile to check that

[lucid iron]

theres a learning cliff of figure out what is C#

[hallow prism]

i don't remember if it was, but the migration page is unconclusive

[narrow owl]

how do u do that? in game also i looked at objects.json im pretty sure those r the tags

[hallow prism]

hence the "test and see and return to us if it fails"

[calm nebula]

I'm running shirtless through a park lumi

[uncut viper]

not all context tags are in the data

some context tags are added when the item is created in game

[hallow prism]

see here

[vast flicker]

I hope my computer storage lives

[hallow prism]

the console is the smapi black windows

if you're unsure of what an instruction means feel free to ask!

[lucid iron]

computer storage

[hallow prism]

it's ok i'm not asking you to test and see 😄

[vast flicker]

It’s on life support

[brave fable]

wait a minute what's with the base fishponddata having the likes of item_sunfish

[uncut viper]

isnt sunfish the default fish in general?

[hallow prism]

i know i asked for this deharcoding at some point but i don't remember if it was done or just considered

[vast flicker]

808 mb left, out of 57.3 GB

[brave fable]

oh darn it does generate context tags from Name as well as Id

hm, so item_seaweed is correct

[narrow owl]

ok, but when I assign the context tag if it don't exist is it automatically created?

[hallow prism]

can you elaborate on what you mean by that?

[calm nebula]

Switch it to category fish and see if it works

[narrow owl]

so ill add the context tag: "seaweed" for seaweed

like:
"seaweed": "seaweed"

[brave fable]

you don't need to assign context tags yourself, and the RequiredTags field is just checking whether an input item has any one of those tags. seaweed (152) does in fact have the item_seaweed context tag already, so that's not an issue

i was wrong earlier when i said it'd need to be id_o_152, which is another possible autogenerated context tag

[hallow prism]

i'm going to sleep but if the hardcoding is still here i suggest someone that isn't me (or atra running in parks) request this for 1.6.16 or 1.7?

[narrow owl]

k

[brave fable]

which means that the seaweed not being usable in fishponds is going to be for another reason, possibly excluding all non-fish as atra mentioned

[hallow prism]

(and if you already tested with item_seaweed and it doesn't work it means this is still hardcoded and there's not really something you can do with content packs only outside of workaround like fish category/fish data as atra suggested)

[brave fable]

because while seaweed is fish enough to be fished, it isn't fish

[fervent horizon]

I think _item isat the end of the tags though

like seaweed_item

[hallow prism]

no

[narrow owl]

so do I need to do anything here?

[hallow prism]

this is a format modders uses BECAUSE base game use item_name

[latent mauve]

(I believe you can hold a seaweed in your hands and do debug listtags to get all the tags for the seaweed item just to be sure)

[hallow prism]

so we don't overlap with vanilla tag

[brave fable]

nope, you don't need that change at all

[narrow owl]

k

[hallow prism]

so you may have encountered this format on modded stuff previously but it's not what vanilla uses

[narrow owl]

so nothing changing the seaweed context tags

[fervent horizon]

🤦‍♂️ nevermind, I'll scamper off now

[brave fable]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags#Added_automatically

[hallow prism]

(that is ok i just wanted to provide context, i can see why it can be confusing)

anyway

sleep. Good timezone and luck

[brave fable]

in any case i've never touched fishponds so i can't say what specifically does and does not work

[uncut viper]

(that wiki list is incomplete too so dont take it as gospel either)

[brave fable]

or i could if i looked into it for longer, but i'm not about that atm haha

[narrow owl]

im confused on what i have to do im sorry

[brave fable]

(for anyone who wants to look at the CP fishponddata change)

[uncut viper]

the category of the object being put in the fish pond must be -4

aka a fish

[narrow owl]

oh

all i do is change category

[uncut viper]

coral and sea urchin are hardcoded exceptions

thatd work. dont know what other consequences there are to changing something's category to fish. probably at least one consequence. dont know what itd be

[narrow owl]

yeah but fuck that, future me problem

[latent mauve]

most immediate consequence that I can think of would probably be that it would be impacted by the Fisher and Angler professions, meaning the sell price would be higher

[narrow owl]

but its so low that who cares

[latent mauve]

I'm not saying it's a big deal, just saying it is something that would change.

Unintended / unannounced changes can confuse users if they're not expecting behaviors like that, so it's something to be aware of, that's all

I'm not trying to talk you out of it. 🙂

[vast flicker]

How do I add the player’s birthday to the calendar

[gentle rose]

it would require c#, like blueberry told you less than an hour ago

[vast flicker]

Yeah but also how

[uncut viper]

the thing about c# mods is that it's generally up to you to decide and figure out the how

there's not gonna be some "add birthday to calendar" function somewhere

[gentle rose]

it would be hard to explain without basically making the mod for you

[vast flicker]

Oh

[uncut viper]

you'll have to read the decompile and look at the SMAPI events available to you (chu mentioned the render ones I think) and DIY it

[vast flicker]

Tysm

🥺

[uncut viper]

(or use harmony, which is also DIYing it)

[vast flicker]

Sighs I might have to wait for a month since my mom can’t afford a new laptop rn

Plus my storage is like on life support as I mentioned earlier

[brittle pasture]

possibly stupid question: I have a CP local token
"OverrideColor": "255,0,0",
which CP interprets as me passing in a list with two numbers 255 and 0; how do I tell CP to pass in that string exactly as is

[uncut viper]

the Render token, maybe

it's interpreting it like that because it's turning it into a set

[calm nebula]

Is there a seperator

Or is that only the Random token

[uncut viper]

inputSeparator is a global token modifier thingy

are you trying to just display that string literally though or are you trying to use it functionality because in the latter case I'm pretty sure that set stuff is gonna bite you at some point down the line if not the local token declaration

[brittle pasture]

I'm trying to pass it to a framework that accepts a color override in the form of a string consisting of three numbers separated by commas

so no functionality on the CP side at all

[uncut viper]

then sure try rendering it or changing the separator

at the time of using it not at declaration

or well

actually no I guess it would be at declaration

which also means I think you do need to just use Render because otherwise there's nothing to put the separator on

possibly a combination of both

[dusky sail]

now this might be silly or not actually work. but what if the three values were three separate local tokens

so inside the included file youd just have "{{LocalTokenA}},{{LocalTökenB}},{{LocalTokenC}}

[boreal dagger]

Walking into this channel and seeing the messages feels like seeing letters in math for the first time again

[brittle pasture]

I may be stupid
"OverrideColor": "{{Render: 255,0,0}}",
this is definitely not how you do it (still turns into 255, 0)

[brittle pasture]

I'm trying to avoid that because that would mean I need 4 tokens instead of 1 🦥

[uncut viper]

try the input separator on top of what you have here

[dusky sail]

nods nods. ok so it would work itd just be inconvenient. curiosity sated

[uncut viper]

{{Render: 255,0,0 |inputSeparator=@}}

[brittle pasture]

nop

[uncut viper]

if that still doesn't work then I'd try using render again inside the patch

{{Render: {{OverrideColour}} }}

if not that then with the input separator on that too
if that still doesn't work then I'm out of ideas

[brittle pasture]

nop x2
more tokens it is
(I still appreciate the help though Button )

[uncut viper]

set theory claims another victim

[brave fable]

all the more reason for mods to just take any old colour and parse it with Utility.StringToColor

[uncut viper]

are we sure that's not what the framework is secretly doing

[brave fable]

well this method doesn't accept comma-separated values so quite sure

[uncut viper]

not sure what you mean there

[brittle pasture]

yeah I use a custom method before knowing that function existed and now I can't switch because it'd break compat

[uncut viper]

how would it break

may I introduce you to custom jsonconverter also

[brittle pasture]

nou

[brave fable]

you could surely use Utility.StringToColor(s) ?? MyLovelyLegacyStringToColor(s)

[uncut viper]

i thought it returned a default color and not null

I'm not at my desk to check

[brave fable]

public static Color? StringToColor(string rawColor) ✨

[brittle pasture]

it does return null
unfortunately it also logs a yellow warning on a parse error

[uncut viper]

selph can't you just remove commas

[brave fable]

then do it the other way around ✨

[brittle pasture]

I may be stupid part 2

[uncut viper]

just ask pathos to add comma separated RGB support in 1.6.16

[brittle pasture]

with that issue resolved, my mod that allows commiting crimes against fashion comes ever closer to completion

[narrow owl]

how would I change the category of an item using content patcher

[brittle pasture]

EditData

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#edit-a-dictionary

[narrow owl]

\i think i got it

[narrow owl]

like this?

[brittle pasture]

change Entries to Fields

[narrow owl]

k

[brittle pasture]

Fields = only edit the fields I specify
Entries = replace the entire object

and remove TargetField

[urban patrol]

also are you sure it's Seaweed and not whatever the number is

[uncut viper]

also remove TargetField

[narrow owl]

ohk,

[narrow owl]

what number?

[urban patrol]

irrelevant now if you're getting rid of targetfield

[brittle pasture]

(you're directly editing a top level field of an object already, no need to "drill in" with TargetField)

and yeah it's not Seaweed

[uncut viper]

relevant since you'll be changing the Fields key to 152

[ornate locust]

Okay phone discord search is garbage and my Internet is down yet again: is there a way to do snow schedules like rain schedules? Is a when condition good enough?

[uncut viper]

isnt snow just winter rain?

[narrow owl]

no cuz u can rain totem iirc

[brittle pasture]

can you follow the example of "editing the description of an item" in the page I linked

[uncut viper]

well a When condition wont do it because you'd need to edit it the night before

[ornate locust]

Yeah I was worried about that. Rain schedules do not apply during snow either

[narrow owl]

i think this is correect

[brittle pasture]

mostly correct
the item Id is not Seaweed

[narrow owl]

152?

[narrow owl]

I used the name cuz in the exam[ple moss soup was typed out

[brittle pasture]

it's because its ID is MossSoup

[narrow owl]

so some use name some use number?

[brittle pasture]

items before 1.6 used to use numeric ids because only numbers were supported

[narrow owl]

ohhh

ty

so it shud work now?

[brittle pasture]

!itemids

[ocean sail]

Item IDs

https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/

To use this command, type !itemids.

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6723 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1434720924279771199)

[brittle pasture]

check the link above (not maru's lol) for a convenient reference

you can also (and should) unpack Data/Objects

[calm nebula]

When condition works fine

Just use a weather: Snow

[uncut viper]

are schedules not chosen the night before?

[ornate locust]

Does it? I wouldn't think it would change right

[calm nebula]

No, schedules are not chosen the night before

[ornate locust]

I always have to rest a night to get schedules to work, I figured they were chosen sometime inconvenient

[calm nebula]

Although I vaguely recall it's more "CP will re roll the schedule "

[uncut viper]

NPC.dayUpdate is called after DayEnding in _newDayAfterFade

and the xml docs specifically say its before the game saves overnight

[narrow owl]

https://smapi.io/json/none/944d99894a4c4404adfb9efcada80c6b

this is annoying, why isn't it letting me put the seaweed in the pond now?

[calm nebula]

Yeah but iirc SMAPI re-rolls the schedule as part of asset propagation

[brittle pasture]

that code looks correct
let me check the game code to see nothing else's being tripped

[narrow owl]

u talking to me?

[calm nebula]

(Are you trying with newly spawned seaweed)

[narrow owl]

oh that might be it

fuck i hate all the intricacies

😭

[calm nebula]

Welcome to modding

[brittle pasture]

we're not meant to dig in mr ape's backyard, but we do it anyway

[calm nebula]

Guess why I'm a knitter now

[brittle pasture]

not because it's easy, but because ||we thought it would be easy||

[narrow owl]

lol

ok imma try building a new fish pond

and using new seaweed

[brittle pasture]

shouldn't need to trash the pond, but do trash the seaweed

[narrow owl]

k\

OMG IT WORKS

HOLY SHIT

I DID IT

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!!!!

[autumn tide]

congrats!

[narrow owl]

TY

[narrow owl]

ok im sorry but i got one more question... its letting me put all 10 seaweed in at once and the population gates aren't workking

[ornate locust]

When snow absolutely doesn't work with schedules

Or at least it's not for me

[narrow owl]

@vernal crest assistaince plz?

also ty for helping me get it to run

https://smapi.io/json/none/93961dd094ac4af2ab0a9e18f649e425

[ornate locust]

I guess I can just change the entirety of winter schedules to not have reading outside.

[vernal crest]

Unfortunately I cannot help because I have no clue! I have never actually done any fish pond stuff personally, I've just read the wiki

[narrow owl]

k

ty

[vernal crest]

I do remember someone else having issues with population gates not working before but not what ended up happening

Maybe search the channel for "population" or "gate"?

[calm nebula]

Might be something with weather huh

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/2017c2ce5f804d706db34f9a5cbdf00e3c7c4fe1/PamTries/[CP] PamTries/assets/schedules/neutral.json#L33

These have worked for me in the past

[brittle pasture]

remove the MaxPopulation line

[narrow owl]

ty

oh now i see how that screwed it up

stardew modding is like the most intuitive and unintuitive thing at the same time

[ornate locust]

When conditions work fine in general

[narrow owl]

comedic gold lmao

[ornate locust]

They're just set too early for the game to know it's snowing for some reason

Hmmm

There's a GSQ for tomorrow's weather...

In world state field

(Love seeing reference materials on tiny a cell phone screen)

[autumn tide]

hey! do dialog commands work in quest reaction dialog?

[uncut viper]

should do

[ornate locust]

They should, but if someone uses a mod like Mail Services to turn in items, they may not see the dialog.

So a "talk to person" end objective or a warning would be safest to ward that iff

[autumn tide]

hmmmmm alr!

thanks!

[vernal crest]

Argh I cannot get these incubation times right

Ah ha

Night time you sneaky creature

[ornate locust]

Pushing a gsq through a flag might be too annoying to keep a book dry. God I hate schedules

[tiny zealot]

the absolutely cursed nighttime where hours have 100 minutes (because time of day is stored as an int and that part of the code just does newtime - oldtime)

[ornate locust]

This is why Gunther is missing so many books, all lost in the snow

[vernal crest]

Yep haha

I keep forgetting to update my default field in the config so I have opened and closed my Stardew 6 times in short succession

[autumn tide]

story of my life-

[vernal crest]

Time for number 7

[autumn tide]

7th times the charm!

[vernal crest]

nooooo

I forgot to update the i18n

[ornate locust]

F

[vernal crest]

7th time is not, in fact, the charm xD

[autumn tide]

..8th times the charm?

[coarse pine]

hiii! I'm trying to mod on mobile and I waa wondering if anyone could give a quick check to my mod list and see if anything doesn't work on mobile or doesn't have the requirements or something? Cus I can't see the error message it scrolls too fast 😅 Thanks :)

[urban patrol]

you should check on the mod pages themselves to see if they’re android compatible

[coarse pine]

okay thanks

[coarse pine]

how can I check?

[urban patrol]

go to the mod page and see what it says about android compatibility

!androidsmapi in general we can’t really help with android modding, nor is this the right channel

[ocean sail]

Android SMAPI

We are not able to provide support if you run into trouble or compatibility issues with Android SMAPI; please use the discord linked on the Android SMAPI github.

IMPORTANT: This is a highly experimental build and may be prone to glitches, bugs, or incompatibilities. Please see the wiki instructions for more information regarding installing the unofficial Android port of SMAPI for Stardew Valley 1.6.

Do not harass mod authors to make Android specific compatibility patches.

To use this command, type !androidsmapi.

[coarse pine]

Okay sorry 😅

[urban patrol]

it’s okay! now you know

[autumn tide]

hmm what's the command for asking the bot which of multiple options you should do?

[urban patrol]

period choose

[autumn tide]

thanks!

[vernal crest]

I thought this would be easy 😭

Now my incubators are ready 20 minutes after the day starts

Oi claude go to bed! I don't have nitro anymore so I can't threaten you with a chancla but pretend I am!

[urban patrol]

    {
        "Action": "EditData",
        "Target": "Data/Events/ArchaeologyHouse",
        "Entries": {
            // edwin 7 hearts - apology for being rude
            "{{ModId}}_edwinhearts7/Friendship EdwinPayne 1750": "continue/22 13/farmer 18 14 1 EdwinPayne 22 10 3/skippable/animate EdwinPayne false true 120 24/move farmer 4 0 1/move farmer 0 -1 0/pause 1800/stopAnimation EdwinPayne/faceDirection EdwinPayne 2/animate EdwinPayne false true 120 19/pause 200/speak EdwinPayne \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.0}}\"/question null \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.1}}\"/pause 200/stopAnimation EdwinPayne/animate EdwinPayne false true 120 18/pause 500/speak EdwinPayne \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.2}}\"/stopAnimation EdwinPayne/move EdwinPayne 0 2 2/pause 500/speak EdwinPayne \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.3}}\"/pause 1000/speak EdwinPayne \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.4}}\"/pause 500/speak EdwinPayne \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.5}}\"/question fork1 \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.6}}\"/fork notForgive/pause 500/emote EdwinPayne 20/speak EdwinPayne \"{{i18n:edwinhearts7.7}}\"/faceDirection farmer 2/addItem Book_Friendship/itemAboveHead (O)Book_Friendship/pause 1200/faceDirection farmer 0/end",
            
            "notForgive": "friendship EdwinPayne -125/pause 500/animate EdwinPayne false true 120 40/emote EdwinPayne 28/pause 1000/speak EdwinPayne \"{{i18n:notForgive.0}}\"/pause 200/stopAnimation EdwinPayne/faceDirection EdwinPayne 0/move EdwinPayne 0 -5 0/end",
        }
    },```
i need another set of eyes--any reason why this event wouldn't be triggering?

i can shove it in the validator but it's only 1 event so not sure how helpful that would be

[vernal crest]

Is it working with debug ebi?

[urban patrol]

yep

[tiny zealot]

releasing a mod is literally the worst, my heart rate is spiking

[urban patrol]

i've had two reports about it. the first i assumed they accidentally skipped it, but the second i went oh i'm the problem

[urban patrol]

it's gonna be great!!

[uncut viper]

your npc isnt modid prefixed?

[urban patrol]

no, this event is from february when i did Bad Things

[calm nebula]

( 🫂 )

[urban patrol]

i plan to rework things and change all my internal IDs, but haven't yet

[vernal crest]

Is it not working for you now that you're testing, or do you only have reports?

[urban patrol]

i only have reports, and only tested it via debug ebi--but let me go try to trigger it manually, good call

yeah it triggers fine for me

i force fed him books until he was 8 hearts and then it triggered as soon as i walked into the library

let me request a log with patch summary

[obtuse finch]

What's the specific code for dialogue trigger when NPC have (2/4/6/8) hearts?

[vernal crest]

My ~guess~ is that they aren't actually high enough hearts for it, so try to get them to check for that too. The only way I can remember to do that right now is LA but a patch summary might have that info? And there's probably a console command for it? There's definitely the debug gq option too.

[livid kite]

Silly question, but does it also show up in the event lookup mod?

[urban patrol]

they saw the 10 heart event, so unless they somehow lost a bunch of hearts, they're high enough. and i can ask them to look at the hearts in the friendship menu, if that's the same thing?

[urban patrol]

let me check

[vernal crest]

It won't do because it uses the 1.6 precondition format

[urban patrol]

ah

[urban patrol]

[[Modding:Dialogue]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

[vernal crest]

Hmmm yeah no that should be enough haha

[obtuse finch]

Oh, I somehow missed that, many thanks!

[vernal crest]

BTW if players aren't meant to be able to see higher heart events until after they've seen lower ones it might be a good idea to add HasSeenEvent as a precondition to the higher ones. But ignore me if they're not meant to be in order like that!

[livid kite]

Oh? I didn't know that.

[urban patrol]

that's a good idea! these ones it doesn't necessarily matter except for thematically, but wouldn't hurt to add (as long as i'm not accidentally locking them out of 10 hearts too with this 7 hearts bug)

[vernal crest]

Yeah unfortunately unless EL has had an update I don't know about recently, it only checks for the aliases. Which is a real barrier in the way of my trying to make everyone stop using aliases xD

[urban patrol]

https://smapi.io/log/900355a2e7744005b711ac15f1d68989?Filter=edwinhearts7 so their log says they've seen the event

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 47 C# mods and 40 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[vernal crest]

Maybe they skipped it by mistake or they didn't realise what it was

[livid kite]

Hmmmm, I thought you could look at pre 1.6 events and it shows me the heart levels and the conditions needed and that. Though, it's highly possible I'm getting post 1.6 events mixed up.

[uncut viper]

the aliases are the pre-1.6 versions

[urban patrol]

yeah, could be. i told them how to debug ebi at least

[vernal crest]

Yeah, you can ONLY see pre-1.6 events

[urban patrol]

the other report was on android so i wrote it off

[vernal crest]

(Except for people who are making mods post 1.6 who are still using aliases)

[vernal crest]

I think unless you get more reports (that aren't android) you can probably assume it was user error

(This is why I always try to recreate reported problems haha)

[hard fern]

Yeah unfortunately since im writing my events in the new format none of them will be visible with event lookup — so im having to write my own event guide by hand

[urban patrol]

i just had them create a new save and test it manually and yep it triggered for them, and they admitted they probably accidentally skipped it

so that's a relief at least but i am shaking them a little bit lol

[livid kite]

~~Hmmmm, now I'm getting confused cause I can see Reyla's event just fine with event lookup, and I'm sure I'm doing the post 1.6 method. ~~ then again I don't know the full technical details/names of things, so I'm probably just saying things and not really understanding what I'm saying.

[vernal crest]

Are you writing out your preconditions with full words like "{{ModId}}_Event/Time 1800/Friendship Leah 2000": "event here" and so on?

Or do they look like this: "{{ModId}}_Event/t 1800/f Leah 2000": "event here"?

[livid kite]

I didn't mean to beat myself up, just realize I need to study the code a bit more the help others

The second one

[vernal crest]

Then you are using the pre-1.6 aliases (the ones I am trying to stop people from using because they are deprecated and hard to read) which is why Event Lookup is working for your events.

[livid kite]

Oh?! Then tomorrow I'll change my events conditions to the post 1.6 method.

Remind me in 10 hours to change my event conditions to the post 1.6 method, please.

[patent lance]

Got it, raffiejohn (#6936717) (10h | <t:1762181169>)

[hard fern]

the thing that bugged me about the old aliases were that a lot of the letters didnt even match what the actual condition was XD
i get f = friendship and t = time, but.. j = days played????

[livid kite]

Thank you for helping me understand my events better!

[uncut viper]

well theres only 26 letters

[hard fern]

😔 they should add more to the alphabed

[dusky sail]

j = journey. For the length in days of your journey so far. Obviously /joke

[devout otter]

(I have strong compulsion to mimic vanilla so it's difficult for me to switch to post-1.6 as long as vanilla still uses the deprecated ones.)

[obtuse wigeon]

I was going to ask what the reason behind the change was besides readability and future proofing, but it seems that the future is now with j = days played

[uncut viper]

do you also put everything into Strings/YourStrings files and use LocalizedText too or do you just use i18n tokens, cuz those aint vanilla

[devout otter]

I put i18n inside String that uses LocalizedText.

[uncut viper]

clearly you need to start using Strings/MyStrings, Strings/MyStrings.zh, Strings/MyStrings.ko...

[devout otter]

            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Strings/DolphINaF.MarinerMermaid",
            "FromFile": "i18n/{{Language}}.json",
            "When": {
                "HasFile:{{FromFile}}": true,
            }
        },``` Synergy!

[brave fable]

i'm sure with logographs we could have the best of both worlds. why not MyEventId/日 30/!雨

[hard fern]

wow.

[brave fable]

thousands of possible commands. the world is your oyster

[obtuse wigeon]

Those just look like empty boxes to me, I'm guessing it's either chinese or another language from further east than poland

[brave fable]

you may be surprised to learn that journey comes from french jour, as in bonjour (goodday) 🥖

[hard fern]

what about 彼氏 サム

[obtuse wigeon]

Looks like a spider wearing glasses, 4 empty squares with a space in the middle

my fav language

[brave fable]

you may need to install some language packs on windows, or whatever you're meant to do on linux

[uncut viper]

also i did find one place in vanilla that uses a non-alias precondition: the event where Willy gives you a training rod uses !Skill

[obtuse wigeon]

Thing is I thought I fixed it by installing around 10 languages, 2 of which were Nerd Fonts which have many none language symbols, seems I didn't do it right XD

[brave fable]

add japanese to the list haha

[hard fern]

maybe i should translate my own mod

nvm

[obtuse finch]

What's the code for selecting a randomized dialogue in a pool so it won't tied to specific day like Mon, Tue, etc?

[obtuse finch]

for non-dateable NPC, I have to add

[urban patrol]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#randomization

[hard fern]

The way to do it is the same even if your npc is dateable or not, btw

[obtuse finch]

I see! The example I found is specifically titled "Marriage dialogue" so I'm just making sure

[hard fern]

Ah, yeah, marriage dialogue is a little different

But for regular daily dialogue it's all the same

[vernal crest]

Here's a tutorial using i18n and the random token: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tips:_Using_i18n_for_Easy_Dialogue_Randomisation

[obtuse finch]

another question, would {
"Default": [
]
}

suffice?

[vernal crest]

Marriage dialogue is not different for how to randomise or use i18n, it's only different in which dialogue keys are used and when.

[vernal crest]

Suffice for what? There's no default list for dialogue that i am aware of

[obtuse finch]

admitedly I tried asking chatgpt and that is the answer it provided

I now know not to do that

[hard fern]

Oh, yeah sorry. I was thinking of the keys and like things like rainy_night_5 or something

Pls don't use chatgpt for anything

[obtuse finch]

yep, gotcha

[hard fern]

It has no idea how to do things properly, and people sometimes come here asking why their mod doesn't work when it's been coded with chat gpt

( admittedly ive seen very funny, but still very incorrect formatting)

[dusky sail]

Dont do it forsy. Only pain and suffering awaits you if you translate your own mod

(Important context here is that i translate my own mods)

[hard fern]

i gave up bc i couldnt figure out how to write a sentence XD

[dusky sail]

Well now i feel like i should maybe inspire you not to give up

[urban patrol]

is there anything that lets me shake the farmer during an event? or a way to fake it? apparently the event command is only for NPCs 😔

[drowsy pewter]

grab them by the shoulders

[brave fable]

you want startJittering and stopJittering

[urban patrol]

omg lifesaver

i had half convinced myself that i imagined the farmer ever shaking

[drowsy pewter]

or feed them a 27 shot espresso

[urban patrol]

if you have a crush on harvey there's other ways to spend time with him!

[jolly light]

I'm wondering if there are any frameworks that facilitate boots definition?

[worthy ermine]

or a zombies

[royal stump]

depending on what you mean, the base game has a Data/Boots asset you can edit with Content Patcher
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Boots
you can give them to players by adding them to a letter in the mail, a shop's inventory, etc
some frameworks like Spacecore might offer more extensible features for boots, iirc, but I'm not familiar with the details

[obtuse finch]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ab8c1be6ff2c4c9eaaae62003e6bc5ae
I dont understand what's wrong with line 5, a quick help please?

[proud wyvern]

it's the , at the end of line 4

and then line 13, and 22

[edgy parrot]

how you guyz make mods

[vernal crest]

That indentation is making it really hard to read (I hope it's properly indented in your actual .json file!) but actually it's just upset because you only put a couple of blocks into it instead of the entire file. It thinks that the curly brace on line one is the one that encloses an entire json file, so then it thinks the closing curly brace on line 5 is the end of the json file and so it thinks there shouldn't be a comma after it.

[edgy parrot]

by what

[proud wyvern]

hmm right

[proud wyvern]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[vernal crest]

You can see once I added those extra bits it stopped complaining.

[vernal crest]

(I thought it was the same as you at first so I edited it to remove the trailing commas and it had the same complaint so I poked at it further lol)

[vernal crest]

Mostly by writing json (that stuff you can see in my screenshot) using a text editor like Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code. It doesn't need programming a lot of the time. It's basically just fancy form filling.

[vernal crest]

In short, there's nothing wrong with it - you just can't paste snippets from your files into it and expect it to be happy.

[edgy parrot]

what about making new characters

[vernal crest]

Yup, same thing

[edgy parrot]

you should draw it by yourself?

[obtuse finch]

I see, massive thanks for your time

[woeful lintel]

or collaborate with someone who can draw

[vernal crest]

You can draw the characters yourself if you want to or you can commission someone else to do it. A lot of us who aren't really strong artists start by using vanilla NPCs as a base.

[vernal crest]

(Psst you should add the {{ModId}}_ prefix to your character's internal name)

[obtuse finch]

(Ohh aight I'll do that)

[vernal crest]

You'll need to add it everywhere you're referencing your NPC, too. So all their texture loads, schedule, dialogue etc Targets.

[edgy parrot]

Is it website? Or app

[hard fern]

😔 the assets won't draw themselves (i wish they'd draw themselves while i sleep)

[edgy parrot]

Yeah you right most of us yes

[vernal crest]

Programs. Like this: https://notepad-plus-plus.org/. You can do it in just basic Notepad but I'd advise against it.

[edgy parrot]

I will just see and decide

[vernal crest]

My eternal struggle is that I want it all to be drawn by me but I don't want to do the drawing. Art drawn? No draw, only art drawn!

[edgy parrot]

@vernal crest good thanks man

[hard fern]

so real....

[obtuse finch]

just to make sure, like this?

[gentle rose]

guys do you like my romanian translation? scarlett said it's 100% correct

[obtuse finch]

Thank you for clarifying I wasn't sure if it was ROMANIAN or not

[hard fern]

[gentle rose]

it absolutely is. do you want to see the original english?

(I am laughing at my own mod btw, this is the dialogue testing mod I made for my framework and I'm now using it to test i18n haha)

[hard fern]

oh it just dawned on me thats what the lines are for lol

(i realized before you actually said it, btw)

😔 i promise im perceptive

[woeful lintel]

Is there a way to propagate errors thrown inside this?

[OnDeserialized]
private void Validate(StreamingContext context)

When I catch exceptions from JObject.ToObject<MyClassWithValidation>(), all I get is Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

Here's the traceback I get from these errors:

   at System.RuntimeMethodHandle.InvokeMethod(Object target, Span`1& arguments, Signature sig, Boolean constructor, Boolean wrapExceptions)
   at System.Reflection.RuntimeMethodInfo.Invoke(Object obj, BindingFlags invokeAttr, Binder binder, Object[] parameters, CultureInfo culture)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonContract.<>c__DisplayClass57_0.<CreateSerializationCallback>b__0(Object o, StreamingContext context)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonContract.InvokeOnDeserialized(Object o, StreamingContext context)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.PopulateObject(Object newObject, JsonReader reader, JsonObjectContract contract, JsonProperty member, String id)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.Populate(JsonReader reader, Object target)
   at FurnitureFramework.Data.FType.SpaceRemover`1.ReadJson(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, T existingValue, Boolean hasExistingValue, JsonSerializer serializer) in /mnt/data/Code/SV Mods/FurnitureFramework/FurnitureFramework/Data/FType/FType.cs:line 325
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonConverter`1.ReadJson(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, Object existingValue, JsonSerializer serializer)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.DeserializeConvertable(JsonConverter converter, JsonReader reader, Type objectType, Object existingValue)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.Serialization.JsonSerializerInternalReader.Deserialize(JsonReader reader, Type objectType, Boolean checkAdditionalContent)
   at Newtonsoft.Json.JsonSerializer.DeserializeInternal(JsonReader reader, Type objectType)

I do get the errors that are thrown inside the JsonConverters of my data model's properties, which is a good start

[lucid mulch]

if you want to bubble the exception inside a catch instead of mutating it (and collapsing the stack trace) you can just throw; instead of throwing the exception or making a new exception https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/statements/exception-handling-statements#:~:text=statement to re-throw the exception

[woeful lintel]

not sure how that would help?

FFthrows an error inside the Validate method because there's an issue with the data of the json it's parsing, and when I want to catch this validation error to skip a single Furniture Type of the pack (instead of the default behavior which is to throw away the whole Pack object), all I get is "Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation." but I want to get the message I actually passed into the validation error so that I can print it out to help pack authors with debugging.

[lucid mulch]

what type is the exception being thrown, because "Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation." doesnt mean shit, and does the exception have an InnerException field/property

[woeful lintel]

Oh shit, didn't think about checking the inner exception. The other instance where I needed to do that, the outer exception was also logging the inner one, so I knew it was somewhere in there

thanks for the tip

[valid folio]

Hi, just a quick question, is it possible to use context tags in recipes? For example,

With ID
"infusion_ron": "{{ModId}}_Rum 1 {{ModId}}_vanilla_pod 6/9999 9999/{{ModId}}_infusion_ron/null/{{i18n:infusion_ron.DisplayName}}"

With context tag
"infusion_ron": "{{ModId}}_Rum 1 vanilla_item 6/9999 9999/{{ModId}}_infusion_ron/null/{{i18n:infusion_ron.DisplayName}}"

Instead of using the vanilla item's ID, could I use its context tag instead? That way, players could use any vanilla item from any mod that has that context tag, right?

[calm nebula]

Only with spacecore

[valid folio]

My mod already uses Spacecore for another reason.

Do I just put the context tag and that’s it if I’m using Spacecore? I have no idea if I need to adjust anything.

[drowsy pewter]

you'll want to look for cookingrecipeoverrides on the spacecre author guide page

its an entirely different model

you need both the vanilla recipe data and the spacecore override

feel free to copy to your heart's desire https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/38862

[valid folio]

I had just drafted a message to ask you something related to this, but I preferred to make the specific question on the server haha. I’ll take a look.

Related to this, if a recipe has already been learned, is it possible to modify it? For example, if I change the item ID of one of the ingredients, or the quantity required, or in this case swap the ID for a Context Tag, I noticed that once the recipe is learned it still requires the originally learned ingredients and amounts, making it unusable after the change I mentioned.

[valid folio]

I just checked it a little while ago, but I was a bit confused since it mentioned that it’s only useful for base game recipes. A friend of mine went absolutely crazy with happiness when she saw this mod you made haha.

[drowsy pewter]

It will not keep the original recipe data anywhere, only the updated recipe will exist in the game

If you see the original recipe, that means your change has been done incorrectlt

Well it's true it's only for the vanilla game recipes, but the same method is used for your own recipes

If you want to wait, you can use Cornucopia Cooking Recipe as a reference when it's released

[valid folio]

I made the change before this mod. I changed the ID of an item, and a player told me that for a recipe they had already learned, one of the ingredients showed up as an error. As soon as I reverted to the original ID, the problem was fixed. That’s why I’m asking.

[drowsy pewter]

I can tell you that the recipe data does not persist in the game files at all

[tiny zealot]

this sounds like maybe you changed the item's id without also changing the recipe?

[drowsy pewter]

If you had a problem, it was due to something else

[valid folio]

😯

[valid folio]

I hadn’t thought about it that way. I think you nailed it. I’ll try doing it again.

[valid folio]

I think I’m the problem here haha.

[drowsy pewter]

I appreciate that you're trying to have a convo here, but I would prefer that you turn off the ping button if you want to respond with emojis and stuff

[obtuse finch]

Is it possible to warp NPC off the map? Like when they reached an area, the mini map won't show their logo and you can no longer interact with them.

[obtuse finch]

With context: I'm trying to make a custom NPC that instead went home at night, use the train station as to leave the town

[drowsy pewter]

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Mods/Bouhm.NPCMapLocations/Locations",
            "Entries": {
                "Cornucopia_WaitingRoom": {
                    "Exclude": true
                }
            },
            "When": {
                "HasMod": "Bouhm.NPCMapLocations"
            }
        },```

Warp them to a location that has this in the data

[tiny zealot]

yes, you can send NPCs to an unreachable map to make them inaccessible. i don't know how it interacts with NPC Map Locations or uiis though

[drowsy pewter]

This Cornucopia_WaitingRoom map is simply the coop map loaded to a custom name

[obtuse finch]

Thank you! Would this work in Schedule json?

[drowsy pewter]

You can put almost anything in any json

[valid folio]

Sorry, I was just surprised by what you mentioned, and that’s why I used the emoji. I’ll keep that in mind.

[patent lance]

@livid kite: change your event conditions to the post 1.6 method, please. (10h ago)

[livid kite]

Thank you!

[frosty hull]

Hello brother, sorry for the late reply
the laest FF 3.1.1 it need SMAPI 4.3
but currently my SMAPI Android it still 4.2.1

[woeful lintel]

the 4.3 SMAPI requirement is just from the manifest, I just uploaded a new FF version that has a lower required version (4.2), but it can't work on mobile because of what I mentioned in the previous message.

[lucid iron]

Narathip do you plan to bump the minor version at some point?

I choose to require 4.3 despite mobile because that minor had important security feature

[woeful lintel]

the latest version is on Nexus btw: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23458

[lucid iron]

Usually I just tell mobile users to edit manifest themselves

[frosty hull]

Oh ok, i will try update into 4.3

[tiny zealot]

@scenic tundra this is the channel to use for guidance, etc. about making mods.
you can make new machines pretty easily with just content patcher (so just json files and image assets, no programming involved)

[scenic tundra]

Interesting

[tired relic]

Is that possible with a gatcha machine or a gumball machine?

[tiny zealot]

it should be, but i don't know a ton about how machine data works

whatever vanilla machine data can't accomplish, there is at least one framework that can fill the gap

so the end result is you still only need to be able to put together data

[inner harbor]

Call the map something eith "warproom" in the name.

[elfin kindle]

Yeah, it's absolutely possible, just make a simple map for them to go to. I use this trick as well with an NPC's schedule ^^ I can post the code i used, if you want??

This is "Therpy Box" where my NPC is sent to for a couple hours during their schedule, the farmer can't go there and it wont pop up on the minimap (shouldn't anyways but I haven't tried it with the NPC show on map mod)

[autumn tide]

uhh does patch reload also update maps?

asking for friend that def isn't me bc my map is def working after DAYS of debugging it-

[elfin kindle]

Uuuuh i've only tried it with things that refer back to text in .json files, not whole sprites and stuff

[autumn tide]

hmmm okay, i mean the map tmx files

[elfin kindle]

Ah I can't remember if it has... So yeah I got no clue

[autumn tide]

gotcha lol, thanks for trying!

maps are so hard :(

[elfin kindle]

Maps are difficult, what are you struggling with?

[autumn tide]

...i have no clue tbh

errors

[urban patrol]

are you sure you’re editing the correct file

[elfin kindle]

Hm

[autumn tide]

yes 💔

i'm just clueless

and a tiny bit dumb

[elfin kindle]

Nah man, maps took be ages and a lot of headaches to get to work and I have pretty simple ones

[autumn tide]

the error:```
[Content Patcher] Can't apply patch (CP) MY MOD?!?!?!?!??!?!?! > {{ModId}} Events > Code/Events.json > OG Basement Loader to Maps/LewisBasement:
StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Exceptions.SContentLoadException: (CP) MY MOD?!?!?!?!??!?!?! loaded map 'Assets/Maps/LewisBasement.tmx' with invalid tilesheet path '../../../../Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2.png'. Tilesheet paths must be a relative path without directory climbing (../).
at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ContentManagers.ModContentManager.FixTilesheetPaths(Map map, String relativeMapPath, Boolean fixEagerPathPrefixes) in E:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\ModContentManager.cs:line 417
at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ContentManagers.ModContentManager.LoadMapFile[T](IAssetName assetName, FileInfo file) in E:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\ModContentManager.cs:line 263
at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ContentManagers.ModContentManager.LoadExact[T](IAssetName assetName, Boolean useCache) in E:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ContentManagers\ModContentManager.cs:line 99
at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.ModHelpers.ModContentHelper.Load[T](String relativePath) in E:\source_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\ModHelpers\ModContentHelper.cs:line 64
at ContentPatcher.Framework.PatchManager.ApplyLoad[T](LoadPatch patch, IAssetName assetName) in E:\source_Stardew\Mods.Pathoschild\ContentPatcher\Framework\PatchManager.cs:line 585.

[urban patrol]

patch reload should apply to maps as well so that’s why i asked

[autumn tide]

oof alr hehhhh

[elfin kindle]

Oh you got the climbing issue

[urban patrol]

this is tilesheet climbing

!mapfixer

[ocean sail]

Stardew Valley Map Fixer

There is a map fixer tool by Spiderbuttons that can fix common map errors such as tilesheet climbing.

Upload your map file(s) as .tmx and click FIX to run. Your fixed maps will be downloaded as a .zip file and will need to be extracted in order to replace your old versions.

Feel free to let Spiderbuttons know if you run into an issue it can't fix.

To use this command, type !mapfixer.

[autumn tide]

oh yeah, doesn't button have something for that?

[elfin kindle]

I had that issue sooo many time

[autumn tide]

thanks!!

i just can't read the big blocks of text

[elfin kindle]

Dude it's overwhelming, i get it

Usually its the first line thats fucky wucky and then it ruins all the other stuff that also spits out errors

[ornate trellis]

anyone know why my npc could be invisible during the wedding event? i made sure the wedding sprites are in the right place on the sheet and the wedding works normally besides her being freaking invisible...

[urban patrol]

if it helps, when reading your log the important stuff is usually at the beginning of the error

[autumn tide]

got it

[urban patrol]

all the “at” stuff is just telling you where in the game code it failed

[autumn tide]

i have like paste the text elsewhere and highlight it to read it properly without my eyes skipping the lines-

[autumn tide]

makes sense, ty!

[urban patrol]

hmm, does your NPC have appearances? that’s the only thing i can think of

[ornate trellis]

weddings kinda set in on the sheet tho like flower dance outfit. my wedding with my other NPC works fine so idk why this isnt working now

i thought i counted wrong on the position on the sheet but i recounted several times now

[urban patrol]

hmmm

can you patch export your spritesheet

[autumn tide]

yayyy console isn't mad at me!

[ornate trellis]

huh

i get bnack into game to do that and since its wedding day the event triggers again and shes there? wth

[urban patrol]

welp

[ornate trellis]

but shes not in her wedding attire

dude what

[urban patrol]

that’s bizarre

is this testing on a new save

[ornate trellis]

huhh when the showframe command happens it works?

oops double image

aND YEAH ITS A NEW FILE

...

hands pls

[autumn tide]

can't help with technical stuffs but your npc looks so cool :)

[ornate trellis]

i wonder if i kinda speedran it too fast and the game is confused?

[urban patrol]

yeah i get bugs during events sometimes when i have fast forward on

[ornate trellis]

can i jsut debug ebi NPCname to redo the wedding or does it work differently from other events

[urban patrol]

i tried to look it up but the wiki is down

[ornate trellis]

hm, i tried and nothing happens, dang

oh wait

nope nervermind

oh well....guess thats what my testers hopefully will tell me

[autumn tide]

okayyy i keep running my map files through button's map fixer thing but console is still angry about climbing?

i am about to lose the feeble remnants of what used to be my sanity

[ornate trellis]

ok and i guess i didnt write a pendant accept dialogue thats why they do standard but oh well.

[urban patrol]

!tilesheetclimbing do it manually?

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[calm nebula]

Yeah occasionally if you have fast animation or fast forward events fuck up

[autumn tide]

AAAAAARRRRRRGHHHH MAPS ARE SO HARD

[ornate trellis]

i test on a minimal save but i did skip days in between(tho not directly to skip to the wedding) so maybe it was some CJB shenanigans who knows

[urban patrol]

wiki finally loaded and debug engaged NPCName sets a wedding for the next day

[ornate trellis]

ahhh

[autumn tide]

..debating just sending my map files here bc i am CLUELESS

[urban patrol]

after you run them through the map fixer, do you then unzip the download it gives you and replace your map files with the unzipped ones?

[autumn tide]

yeah?

[urban patrol]

just checking

it feels stupid to run through every step but everyone makes silly mistakes sometimes

[autumn tide]

hmmm dophin is not a fish did offer to help me with my mod earlier.. might just send it them for help-

[urban patrol]

oh did you ever use vanilla tilesheets from outside of the Maps folder? like furniture.png?

[autumn tide]

no

all in the maps one, i originally had the tilesheets in the file but was told to remove them, and it displayed fine, then i came back and it did not display correctly? so i put them back and it displayed correctly again

i genuinely have no clue what i even did 😭

here's a zip of my map stuffs-

[uncut viper]

tilesheet climbing also applies to tsx files

[urban patrol]

yeah that’s because when tilesheets are embedded, they have a filepath that tells the map where to find the tilesheet

[autumn tide]

oh

[tiny zealot]

@autumn tide it's out https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/38900

[uncut viper]

my map fixer only accepts tmx files

[autumn tide]

OH

[uncut viper]

it will not fix tsx files and says it skips tsx sources in its log

[autumn tide]

oh yeah i saw! def gonna check it out, it's such a cool idea!

[autumn tide]

yup, i only put TMX files

[uncut viper]

"DO NOT REMOVE THE TSX FILE" is also only treating a symptom and not a cause as tsx files are not required (though they can be used to transfer over tile animations)

[tiny zealot]

let me know if you have any questions about it

[uncut viper]

thats my point. hence, it is not fixing your tsx files, which have tilesheet climbing

[autumn tide]

i know, just reminding myself

[uncut viper]

im saying they are not required so if you embed the tilesheets you can remove the tsx files

[autumn tide]

okay..? still a bit confused, how might i embed them?

..very new to maps so bear with me lol

[uncut viper]

my "symptom and not a cause" comment is because telling yourself not to remove them is skipping the reason why in this instance removing them breaks things

and can come back to bite in other situations

[autumn tide]

oh, i get that

[uncut viper]

when you added the tilesheet to the map it asked if you wanted to embed the tilesheet and you did not select that, so now you need to find the button around where the tilesheet tiles are shown that says "Embed tileset..." or whatever

[autumn tide]

got it

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[final pendant]

Does this add the solar panel recipe to Pierre's shop or did I definitely make some of that up? Can't test it right now and I think the IDs might be wrong.

[brittle pasture]

the item id is wrong (solar panels are (BC), not (O))

(O)231 is eggplant parmesan

[final pendant]

Haha, oops, thank you! Is the format correct beyond the error? I simply call the item and add recipe in brackets?

[brittle pasture]

fix that though and I think that should work

[final pendant]

I appreciate the help!

[quick sand]

Hello people. Does anyone know the difference between 0 (stabbing sword) and 3 (slashing sword)? im looking through data/weapons and i cant remember them being different. seems 0 for smaller swords like katanas and 3 for bigger swords like claymore

[brittle pasture]

in the current version there is no difference

iirc back in development the stabbing sword's special attack was planned to be a thrusting attack (which some mods bring back)

[quick sand]

ooooh nice. thanks

[maiden citrus]

hi, i'm currently trying to write code in which, for each object in the players current location - do a thing

however i'm receiving an error

code:
foreach (Object stones in Game1.player.currentLocation.objects)

error:
Cannot convert element type 'StardewValley.SerializableDictionary<Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Vector2,StardewValley.Object>' to iterator type 'StardewValley.Object'

if anyone has any advice i'd appreciate it!!

[uncut viper]

currentLocation.Objects.Values

[maiden citrus]

thank you!!!

[frosty gate]

Hi! Developer of Stardew Access here (pinging @bitter kestrel to keep her in loop).

For those who don't know, Stardew Access is a mod that adds features for visually impaired folks. At the moment, it makes 90+% of the vanilla game accessible, minus some mini-games, combat, etc. But mods are a big part of the game, so I've been working on expanding the mod's APIs for mod support and have recently released a beta version of the mod. So I'm reaching out here to kind of spread awareness about the mod and how to make mods accessible.

Most mods that add contents like items and such are already compatible with stardew access and essentially what needs to be made accessible are Custom Menus and Custom Maps.

1. For custom menus, the mod looks for ClickableComponents from the allClickableComponents field then detect which one is hovered and speak its content present in ScreenReader* properties (also uses reflection to detect fields of type ClickableComponent). PathosChild added IScreenReadable interface last year to game which has these properties. Look for instructions here - https://github.com/stardew-access/stardew-access/wiki/MenuAccessibility.
2. For maps, currently the mod uses a TileData property, TileDesc, but @drowsy pewter suggested in using an "accessible json file" that can be edited via Content Patcher and Stardew Access can listen to this file as needed, and this method is more in tune with how Stardew Access currently handles most vanilla game tiles so I'll move to this method shortly. But I have question regarding this, from what I've researched I need to create a Content Pack with a empty/default json and CP modders will edit/append to this file, how would they do that?
3. The mod author wiki can found here - https://github.com/stardew-access/stardew-access/wiki/Introduction. Let me know what part of this wiki can be improved.

I've gone ahead and attempted to make GMCM and Spacecore (PR#545 - https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/pull/545) and Central Station (PR#1153 - https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/pull/1153) accessible as a PoC. Although Central Station's patch will be outdated soon.

And I have another question regarding the GMCM & Spacecore patch, how do I access Stardew Access' API in SpaceShared? SpaceShared/UI/Element to be specific?

So yeah, ping us when needed, it'll be nice to have more mods accessible, and if you have any suggestion on how Stardew Access handles these stuff, let me know! And apologies for this wall o' text.

[autumn tide]

oooh that's so cool! disabled but not visually impaired here, and I just wanna thank you for helping make SDV more accessible :)

[frosty gate]

I'm glad!

[tribal grail]

Hello, folks! I am trying to get started on making Stardew Valley mods. The documentation on events is extensive, but I am having trouble figuring out how to interact with the game. For my first project I am trying to make the transfer funds option from the Town Ledger in Lewis' house available from the in-game menu, to reduce the friction in multiplayer trading. How would I go about finding whatever method the game calls for that menu?

[urban patrol]

!decompile have you decompiled the game yet?

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[gentle rose]

Hi, when I finish making the menu for my current mod, would it be okay to ping you to make sure it works with stardew access then? and should I ping both of you?

the mod is entirely visual (portrait replacements framework) so it’s probably not super high priority but I would still like accessibility support wherever I can. I would also love to hear from you if there’s anything else that you would like to see in a portrait replacer framework involving visual accessibility (or any other kind), (like whether having an option for bigger portraits would be helpful/desirable, etc etc)

[gentle rose]

I also recommend looking at the Better Game Menu mod by Khloe Leclair

[ornate locust]

So let's say I put the Wizard at the Winter Star celebration. And he isn't where I put him, he's somewhere else. How do I figure out what's going that and/or shove his ass into the right position?

[gentle rose]

patch export of the festival data is a good start

and also sending a log here