#making-mods-general

livid kite Oct 31, 2025, 2:35 AM

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Ah, my bad

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 2:36 AM

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And I want to know if it's possible for it to be only editable via config.json

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Which is the default for C# mods, but it's for a CP mod

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I'm not seeing anything in the docs for CP or GMCM about it, so I'm guessing the answer is no

uncut viper Oct 31, 2025, 2:38 AM

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no

livid kite Oct 31, 2025, 2:38 AM

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Maybe you can suggest it to Casey or pathos?

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:39 AM

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God yall really aren’t helping my brain with this

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@gentle rose as well

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 2:39 AM

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I don't think it'd be a very frequently used feature but since she's here, hey Casey do you want to make that change for me? /j

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:40 AM

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livid kite Maybe you can suggest it to Casey or pathos?

/me runs away
(But feel free to make an issue on github for my theoretical GMCM 2.0 changes)

uncut viper Oct 31, 2025, 2:40 AM

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i would think itd be a change on CP's side

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 2:40 AM

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I would also expect that but Pathos wasn't here right in this moment xD

livid kite Oct 31, 2025, 2:41 AM

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@ pathos

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:41 AM

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uncut viper i would think itd be a change on CP's side

GMCM 2.0 is gonna include stuff for content packs that I’m like 97% sure pathos won’t go far (since he’s rejected it before)

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 2:41 AM

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I think it's just me wanting to provide more options for users than are actually necessary

uncut viper Oct 31, 2025, 2:41 AM

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i mean how would a content patcher mod specify it without content patcher a) offering the option and b) respecting it

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:41 AM

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(Basically, cp packs will get full power, except custom widgets of course)

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:42 AM

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uncut viper i mean how would a content patcher mod specify it without content patcher a) off...

I mean content patcher literally tells GMCM what options are available.

tiny zealot Oct 31, 2025, 2:42 AM

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next plaza God yall really aren’t helping my brain with this

(sorry, casey, i did that specifically because i saw you were in the chat SDVkrobusnaughty )

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 2:42 AM

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(Aaaaand a little bit of embarrassment about having made a mod in such a way that it's giving a bunch of users problems because I didn't follow the normal convention and now there are consequences)

uncut viper Oct 31, 2025, 2:42 AM

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that is exactly my point? its content patcher telling GMCM. how is content patcher to know it shouldnt?

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:42 AM

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So I just load a separate json with the GMCM data (specified in manifest, not assuming a specific file name just in case)

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:43 AM

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uncut viper that is exactly my point? its content patcher telling GMCM. how is content patch...

Oh, I thought you meant “how could you even handle that on CP side”

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:43 AM

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next plaza So I just load a separate json with the GMCM data (specified in manifest, not as...

(Also, this isn’t a data asset because I don’t think mods should be able to edit other mods config pages)

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:44 AM

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tiny zealot (sorry, casey, i did that specifically because i saw you were in the chat <:SDVk...

I’m not surprised (and I half wondered)

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And iro didn’t even question it

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It’s a conspiracy I tell you

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It may not make sense, but if wren ever joins in on it, my mind will be in absolute shambles

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Every 1d7+1 days, you each hold a drawing to see whose name you each get this time

gentle rose Oct 31, 2025, 2:49 AM

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next plaza And iro didn’t even question it

I considered leaning into it

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:49 AM

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My mind would never know peace

gentle rose Oct 31, 2025, 2:49 AM

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but figured it was funnier to refuse to acknowledge it entirely

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:49 AM

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gentle rose I considered leaning into it

Also not surprised

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 2:49 AM

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gentle rose but figured it was funnier to refuse to acknowledge it entirely

…yeah, it would’ve been too obvious if you immediately responded with calling ichor iro

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Gotta make me question my sanity for it to be effective

urban flower Oct 31, 2025, 4:12 AM

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hi, would anyone know if there's a way to add campfire to a map that you can toggle on and off like the one in front of linus' tent? like a tile property or something?

gaunt orbit Oct 31, 2025, 4:20 AM

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You could make a custom campfire-shaped fireplace and then spawn it on the map

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I'm pretty sure there's a way to spawn furniture on maps anyways

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If you want the effect to be baked into the map itself the only option is c#

livid kite Oct 31, 2025, 4:28 AM

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@blissful panther Hi DH, I'm following the Doc on how to add a Close-up interaction from MEEP, but I'm confused on how to load in a custom asset,. It says
"Action": "MEEP_CloseupInteraction_Image Mods/DecidedlyHuman/MaruRobot",
But it doesn't give an example on the load part. So I tried to follow the example file path "Mods/DecidedlyHuman/MaruRobot":

            "LogName": "Load MEEP Images - Pepper",
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/RaffieJohn/Pepper",
            "FromFile": "Assets/MEEP/Pepper.png"
        },```
But nothing is happening. Here is my code that I followed from the doc:
https://smapi.io/json/none/bb8656a898f4436cb5fb67bece1b9a34

urban flower Oct 31, 2025, 4:30 AM

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gaunt orbit If you want the effect to be baked into the map itself the only option is c#

I see, thank you!

royal stump Oct 31, 2025, 4:42 AM

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urban flower hi, would anyone know if there's a way to add campfire to a map that you can tog...

If you're familiar with FTM, the forage spawner can add a craftable campfire and prevent players picking it up, which is how Linus's fire works

  "Forage_Spawn_Settings": {
    "Areas": [
      {
        "SpringItemIndex": [{"category": "BC","name": "146","CanBePickedUp": false}],
        "SummerItemIndex": [{"category": "BC","name": "146","CanBePickedUp": false}],
        "FallItemIndex": [{"category": "BC","name": "146","CanBePickedUp": false}],
        "WinterItemIndex": [{"category": "BC","name": "146","CanBePickedUp": false}],
        "UniqueAreaID": "Fireplace test",
        "MapName": "Mountain",
        "MinimumSpawnsPerDay": 1,
        "MaximumSpawnsPerDay": 1,
        "IncludeCoordinates": [
          "20,15/20,15"
        ],```

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(also you'd want to make the tile impassable so NPCs don't break through it SDVpufferdizzy )

urban flower Oct 31, 2025, 4:52 AM

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royal stump If you're familiar with FTM, the forage spawner can add a craftable campfire and...

thank you so much! i'll look into it! SDVpufferheart

oblique meadow Oct 31, 2025, 4:55 AM

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royal stump If you're familiar with FTM, the forage spawner can add a craftable campfire and...

I’m almost confident that 90% of issues can be fixed with FTM

royal stump Oct 31, 2025, 4:58 AM

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eventually everything will become spawnable forage SDVpetjunimo
(until I finish 2.0 stuff, then it's all trigger actions) (sort of)

oblique meadow Oct 31, 2025, 5:00 AM

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Haha. Well I figured out how to use it to spawn tools in the world. So it made my WIP farm feasible

drowsy pewter Oct 31, 2025, 5:01 AM

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yesss trigger action stuff yessss

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give me all the trigger action

oblique meadow Oct 31, 2025, 5:01 AM

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I need trigger actions to make it rain bombs that are set to explode….

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For reasons

royal stump Oct 31, 2025, 5:04 AM

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SDVpufferthink I'll make a note to remember how active bombs spawn, since they're one of those unique edge cases

oblique meadow Oct 31, 2025, 5:05 AM

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I may or may not be looking at more… intricate… dungeons

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So raining bombs would help

brave fable Oct 31, 2025, 5:12 AM

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mmm bombs are temp sprites with endfunctions rather than items

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in any case you'd need to run the spawn behaviours on each tick, otherwise you've just got a location that explodes dramatically once you enter for the day

oblique meadow Oct 31, 2025, 5:14 AM

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But… that would be funny

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Not ideal

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But hilarious

brave fable Oct 31, 2025, 5:14 AM

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having things 'drop from above' is also totally outside the realm of the base game content so you'd need another setup for that

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iirc even temp sprites don't support it, i'm fairly sure the 'stop at ypos' arg only works with a negative motion Y, i.e. upwards

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(used for fireworks, which typically don't go down)

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 5:24 AM

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hey blueberry while you're here--i was trying to use the new viewport commands you elaborated on on the wiki, but got this error:

[game] In event #CookingLesson5 for location Saloon
[game] On line #69: viewport farmer
[game] Error running event script Data\Events\Saloon#CookingLesson5 on line #69 (viewport farmer).
NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at StardewValley.Event.DefaultCommands.Viewport(Event event, String[] args, EventContext context) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Event.Commands.cs:line 4420
   at StardewValley.Event.tryEventCommand(GameLocation location, GameTime time, String[] args) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\Event.Commands.cs:line 307```
does `actor` not like `farmer`?

brave fable Oct 31, 2025, 5:36 AM

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ah, you want player instead.

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 5:37 AM

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ahhh i see

brave fable Oct 31, 2025, 5:37 AM

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i'll update the wiki for that

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looks good?

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 5:44 AM

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yep i think that's clear!

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dark mode wiki jumpscare lol

brave fable Oct 31, 2025, 5:45 AM

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dark reader extension my beloved

drowsy pewter Oct 31, 2025, 6:05 AM

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24,000 line json SDVpufferchickmayor

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:05 AM

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is there a better way to do this? basically trying to apply a snowy version of the texture if its snowing, and the config option is enabled for snowy days

         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Query: {{Snowy Days}} {{Weather}} |contains= snowing": "false, true"
         }
      },
      {
         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_snowy_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Snowy Days": "true",
            "Weather": "snowing"
         }
      },```

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:09 AM

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do you need a query in the first one? why not check it one by one like your second patch?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:10 AM

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it was kind of a dual test, to see which would be cleaner, i intend to use the same method for both, but i was more wondering if they could be combined into one editimage action

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:16 AM

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i suppose you could set a dynamic token like {{Snowy}} that's Snowy when (true conditions) and NotSnowy when (false conditions), and then name your files accordingly, and use the token {{Snowy}} in your FromFile

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CP docs lay out how to do that more clearly

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that also means that you're not checking a query on location change which is very expensive resource wise

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:20 AM

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You shouldn't need to do an OnLocationChange update rate for that because the weather is set at the start of the day

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:21 AM

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I think I might actually need to, I got the code fully up and running (mostly) but when disabling "Snowy Days" the old snowy textures still load

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:22 AM

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imo players should expect errors when changing config mid-game session

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:22 AM

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Yup

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:22 AM

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i dealt with this last month or so and poor aba was very patient with me lol

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:22 AM

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You never try my patience nic SDVpufferheart

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:22 AM

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urban patrol imo players should expect errors when changing config mid-game session

All the rest of my config works as expected, its just snowy days that isnt getting properly disabled

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I checked thru it like 3 times, no linting errors or anything

📎 content.json

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:23 AM

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If you're changing the snowy days config midway through the day without OnLocationChange, it is expected behaviour that it will not update until the next day

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:24 AM

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i added the onlocationchange update to each entry, same deal

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:25 AM

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Which of the two methods from above are you using?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:25 AM

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this is what i ended up going with for now:

         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Weather": "Sun"
         }
      },
      {
         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_snowy_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Snowy Days": "true",
            "Weather": "Snow"
         }
      },```

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:26 AM

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(Why must everybody put spaces in their config settings 😭 )

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:26 AM

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vernal crest (Why must everybody put spaces in their config settings 😭 )

ngl i thought it wasn't even allowed skdjhfksjfh

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:27 AM

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To my immense sadness CP does allow it D:

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:27 AM

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elder kite this is what i ended up going with for now: ``` { "Action": "Edit...

And you're saying that the snowy changes are not getting removed when you disable the snowy days config?

dusky sail Oct 31, 2025, 6:27 AM

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You can put spaces in the config but then it cant be i18n'd

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(Learned this the hard way)

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:27 AM

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Correct

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:28 AM

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ahhh

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:28 AM

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Interesting, I didn't know it broke the keys

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:28 AM

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vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:28 AM

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Well, good, because people shouldn't be using spaces

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:28 AM

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elder kite

And you changed map after disabling it?

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:28 AM

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vernal crest Well, good, because people shouldn't be using spaces

does it break anything else?

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sorry i'm derailing the convo this can continue later

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:28 AM

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vernal crest And you changed map after disabling it?

aye

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:29 AM

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Not that I know of, it's just bad practice to use spaces in IDs and people should be in the habit of not doing it ever

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:29 AM

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If it works it works, I can guarantee you spaces arent the issue here, i just tried a test without them

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:29 AM

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elder kite aye

Try doing a patch summary to see which patches are being applied

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:30 AM

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elder kite If it works it works, I can guarantee you spaces arent the issue here, i just tr...

I know the spaces aren't the issue. I would've told you if they were. But you should change them so you can i18n your config anyway.

uncut viper Oct 31, 2025, 6:30 AM

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spaces in keys do not break i18n

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:30 AM

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They do not

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I have another mod with over 100 config options 18 languages supported

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Works great

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Has spaces

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:31 AM

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Poor oclarina then

drowsy pewter Oct 31, 2025, 6:31 AM

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yeah I was going to say they dont break i18ns

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:31 AM

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📎 message.txt

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:31 AM

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!log please use the log parser and upload your whole log

ocean sailBOT Oct 31, 2025, 6:31 AM

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Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

Open this page: smapi.io/log.
Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

drowsy pewter Oct 31, 2025, 6:31 AM

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but needed to check first

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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Well they should >:(

drowsy pewter Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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has anyone told you you're stubborn

dusky sail Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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How did i break them then....

brave fable Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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you're not my linter 😌

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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drowsy pewter but needed to check first

thisisfine.jpg

dusky sail Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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It is a mystery

uncut viper Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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spaces in keys dont break anything in general unless its another mod that doesnt handle it properly

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:32 AM

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drowsy pewter has anyone told you you're stubborn

You're the first in the modding community so far lol

uncut viper Oct 31, 2025, 6:33 AM

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uncut viper spaces in keys dont break anything in general unless its another mod that doesnt...

(also to clarify i mean config keys here. dont know what the game itself might get up to for things like item ids or whatever)

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:34 AM

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https://smapi.io/log/5cd68f8d882244c8ac729be53e501b89

ocean sailBOT Oct 31, 2025, 6:34 AM

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Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26200.0, with 54 C# mods and 83 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 6:36 AM

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elder kite https://smapi.io/log/5cd68f8d882244c8ac729be53e501b89

Oh, of course. I thought this earlier and then forgot: you shouldn't have that Sunny weather condition for your first patch

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Because it is not sunny

drowsy pewter Oct 31, 2025, 6:43 AM

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my poor hand hurts from clickying and clackying all day SDVpufferchickhands

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 6:43 AM

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vernal crest Oh, of course. I thought this earlier and then forgot: you shouldn't have that S...

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, removing this from the first entry and instead using the snowy days config set to false works

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Sometimes I just cant wrap my head around logic problems like this, so thanks for your patience

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 6:51 AM

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drowsy pewter my poor hand hurts from clickying and clackying all day <:SDVpufferchickhands:64...

Have you tried clackying and clickying instead

raw oxide Oct 31, 2025, 6:52 AM

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hello working on my mod really simple question someone very talented took my commissions and made my mod mini map my question now it appear on a new save but not on my current save is it normal and do i have a way to make it appear or is it stuck with the vanilla one ?

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 6:53 AM

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raw oxide hello working on my mod really simple question someone very talented took my com...

Can you give some more details? Like what even is your mod, what do you mean by not appearing, are there any mod conflics? Etc

fossil osprey Oct 31, 2025, 6:54 AM

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If you could share your log too, that may contain the solution

raw oxide Oct 31, 2025, 6:55 AM

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Sorry it's a farm map that replace standard farm, i asked for a minimap so it shows on the map instead of the vanilla one here's the thing on a new save the new minimap appear but in an existing save it does not

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as for the log i'll go get it

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https://smapi.io/log/a59c7002fe8f4d8cbe921cc3a377449f

ocean sailBOT Oct 31, 2025, 7:00 AM

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Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 26.0.1, with 77 C# mods and 242 content packs.

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:03 AM

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raw oxide https://smapi.io/log/a59c7002fe8f4d8cbe921cc3a377449f

when you tested it, did you test it on a minimal mod list? (i assume so, if it loaded in on a fresh save, but im just double checking)

raw oxide Oct 31, 2025, 7:05 AM

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yes i did, i'm not sure if it's normal for the mini map to appear on a new save but not on an existing one

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:06 AM

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raw oxide yes i did, i'm not sure if it's normal for the mini map to appear on a new save ...

well i would assume its because one of the mods you're using is conflicting

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i would guess it's your recolor

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?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:07 AM

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         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Snowy Days": "true",
            "Weather": "Sun"
         }
      },
      {
         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Snowy Days": "false",
            "Weather": "Sun"
         }
      },
            {
         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Snowy Days": "false",
            "Weather": "Snow"
         }
      },
      {
         "Action": "EditImage",
         "PatchMode": "Overlay",
         "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
         "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_snowy_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
         "Priority": "Late",
         "Update": "OnLocationChange",
         "When": {
            "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
            "= Enable Mod": "true",
            "Winter Changes": "true",
            "Snowy Days": "true",
            "Weather": "Snow"
         }
      },```

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I may have gotten ahead of myself before, but I did manage to get it working, but its 4 actions instead of the 2 now xD

raw oxide Oct 31, 2025, 7:10 AM

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hard fern well i would assume its because one of the mods you're using is conflicting

i tried again with only content patcher and my farm map and it still doesn't appear on my existing save

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:10 AM

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elder kite ``` { "Action": "EditImage", "PatchMode": "Overlay", ...

Three of those patches have the same FromFile

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Why are you specifying weather at all for the non-snowy ones?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:12 AM

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Basically its accounting for the four different cases that could be happening

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:12 AM

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But you only need two

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You need one that applies all the time by default, and then one that overrides that if it's snowy and the player has enabled "Snowy Days"

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:13 AM

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raw oxide i tried again with only content patcher and my farm map and it still doesn't app...

hm. share your json?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Case 1: snowy days disabled, sunny, uses normal
Case 2: snowy days enabled, sunny, uses normal|
Case 3: snowy days disabled, snowing, uses normal
Case 4: snowy days enabled, snowing, uses snowy version

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:14 AM

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The first three cases will just be covered by not checking for weather or Snowy Days. Then for number 4, you check if it's snowing and the player has Snowy Days enabled, and then you change the tilesheet

raw oxide Oct 31, 2025, 7:14 AM

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hard fern hm. share your json?

📎 content.json

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:14 AM

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I assure you that does not work, i just tested that

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:14 AM

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raw oxide

can you put it in the json validator/parser so it's easier to read?

raw oxide Oct 31, 2025, 7:15 AM

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yes of course

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https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/af888ee535dd43ab91e9435c6ce23320

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:15 AM

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vernal crest The first three cases will just be covered by not checking for weather or Snowy ...

Take case 3 for example, if its snowing, and snowy days are disabled, the snowy version will load without that specific case

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:16 AM

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elder kite I assure you that does not work, i just tested that

So you had this and it did not work?

{
   "Action": "EditImage",
   "PatchMode": "Overlay",
   "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
   "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
   "Priority": "Late",
   "Update": "OnLocationChange",
   "When": {
      "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
      "= Enable Mod": "true",
      "Winter Changes": "true",
   }
},
{
   "Action": "EditImage",
   "PatchMode": "Overlay",
   "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
   "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_snowy_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
   "Priority": "Late",
   "Update": "OnLocationChange",
   "When": {
      "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
      "= Enable Mod": "true",
      "Winter Changes": "true",
      "Snowy Days": "true",
      "Weather": "Snow"
   }
},```

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This will load the snowy sheet only if it is both snowing and Snowy Days is enabled. It will not do so at any other time.

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:17 AM

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Yep, just tested again for sanity, when its snowing, and the snowy days are enabled with this version, the default is used

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vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:17 AM

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Even after changing location?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:18 AM

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Correct

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The only way to do it is to specify all four possible cases

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I tested this for like 30 minutes, really confused as you are now

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:18 AM

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raw oxide yes of course

hm, everything looks right, so i'm not sure why it wouldn't be working 🤔 i'm gonna throw it out there but if you test on an existing save, then go to sleep for a day, does the map change?

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:18 AM

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Then something is wrong, because you do not need to specify all four cases

raw oxide Oct 31, 2025, 7:19 AM

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hard fern hm, everything looks right, so i'm not sure why it wouldn't be working 🤔 i'm go...

didn't test to sleep

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:19 AM

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vernal crest Then something is wrong, because you do not need to specify all four cases

That's what I thought as well, but after thoroughly testing it thats the conclusion I've come to

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If all four potential conditions dont have a case, then those conditions wont work properly

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:21 AM

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I need to check this

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I didn't even need to change map for it to update

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{
            "Action": "EditImage",
            "PatchMode": "Overlay",
            "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
            "FromFile": "assets/winter_pink.png",
            "Priority": "Late",
            "Update": "OnLocationChange",
        },
        {
            "Action": "EditImage",
            "PatchMode": "Overlay",
            "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
            "FromFile": "assets/winter_green.png",
            "Priority": "Late",
            "Update": "OnLocationChange",
            "When": {
                "CT_Snowy": true,
                "Weather": "Snow"
            }
        },

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:30 AM

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Not sure why mine just completely and totally refuses to work lol

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:30 AM

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Snowy but CT_Snowy disabled: pink ground. Enable CT_Snowy and hit save: green ground. ~~Graphic design is my passion~~

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Do another patch summary

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And check which patches are applying

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:31 AM

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Patch summary doesn't tell you which of your patches loaded, just what was patched to

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:31 AM

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Yes it does

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That's what I checked before when I told you to remove the sunny weather check

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See? Not applying because the weather condition doesn't match

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:33 AM

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Well I dunno what else to say, patch summary is saying the same thing as before, and the code you provided which was pretty much identical to my first attempt is not working correctly

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The only way I've gotten it to work is by laying out all the potential cases

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If you wanna test around with the mod i can send a beta version, but at this point i have it working, and im getting a little burnt xd

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:34 AM

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!json Can you share your whole json please? And also another log with the patch summary that matches the json you share (as in, make sure you did the patch summary while that version of the json applied rather than editing the json after running the patch summary)

ocean sailBOT Oct 31, 2025, 7:34 AM

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JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:35 AM

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beta 1.3

📎 CP_An_Earthy_Valley.zip

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:35 AM

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Ok I'll have a look

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:35 AM

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currently working with the multiple cases method, feel free to try and get it to work properly, i spent over and hour trying to figure it out and came to the same conclusion as you

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it should work...

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:37 AM

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SDVpufferlurk hii.....sorry to interrupt, but i had an idea for an event quest conversationtopic hell. I wanted it to be like.. the player has to go around talking to npcs to get hints about what to do next, and i thought maybe conversation topics could work, but i also wasn't sure how to go about it? cuz unless a player is taking screenshots there's no indicator as to what do do next. so if it's possible, i'd want a quest that could increment in counter for people talked to, and once everyone required has been talked to, the quest turns into a different one that tells you what to do?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:40 AM

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I would make it linear like the pirate locket quest, that way you can be sure which NPC should be spoken to next etc

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:40 AM

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it's not supposed to be linear like that though

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it's just you have to talk to the people

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they dont need to be in order

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:41 AM

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elder kite currently working with the multiple cases method, feel free to try and get it to...

Are you testing with a totally minimal testing setup?

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:41 AM

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vernal crest Are you testing with a totally minimal testing setup?

Its my full testing suite, lots of mods

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:42 AM

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hard fern they dont need to be in order

sounds more similar to the introductions quest then, where talking to people crosses them off the list until everyone has been met

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:43 AM

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yeah, i was thinking like that, but 😅 have no idea what exactly goes into it

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 7:46 AM

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hard fern <:SDVpufferlurk:591022278955761676> hii.....sorry to interrupt, but i had an ide...

i think this could work! if you wanted the player to be able to check their progress so to speak you could probably do mail shenanigans? send a letter Now each time the player talks to someone (if that’s a valid trigger—BETAS might have it?) and include information according to CTs the player has active. so the letter could be
{{Token1}} (“unknown”when no CT, information when CT)
{{Token2}} (same as above)
etc

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this depends on the trigger existing though

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oh and removing the mail from received each time the traction fires, i forgot to mention

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oh yay it does exist

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:49 AM

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SDVpuffersweats me and trigger actions do not get along

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but i'll try hammerign at it

urban patrol Oct 31, 2025, 7:50 AM

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i’m making it sound extremely complicated for something you don’t have to do lol

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good luck though

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:50 AM

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elder kite Its my full testing suite, lots of mods

Right, well, I've found out why. I did not know that you needed the first one to NOT apply if Snowy Days was enabled. They are both applying but because the snowy one has no ground tiles, the ground tiles from the non-snowy sheet are showing through.

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:51 AM

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There we go, man im sorry xD

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:51 AM

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Lol no worries

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:52 AM

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I should've specified that its one or the other since they are oveylays with different sections

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:52 AM

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And what's the issue with just having "Snow Days": false in the non-snowy one?

gentle rose Oct 31, 2025, 7:53 AM

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hard fern <:SDVpufferlurk:591022278955761676> hii.....sorry to interrupt, but i had an ide...

hmm

could there be some kind of item that each person gives the player one of when they talk? and then you can track that

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 7:55 AM

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Because the snow from vanilla shows through on sunny days, I see

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 7:55 AM

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Aye

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 7:55 AM

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gentle rose hmm could there be some kind of item that each person gives the player one of w...

oh, that sounds, maybe simpler? 🤔 maybe. like the event i want only triggers if the player brings the items to the location. i'd have to player proof the items and hope they don't accidentally sell it or give it to someone else though

gentle rose Oct 31, 2025, 7:57 AM

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that's one way to do it, yeah

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or you might be able to do it as a gathering quest that just tracks that the player received however many of that item in the first place

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 8:18 AM

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elder kite Aye

Ok, I can't find a simple way to avoid your 4 patch solution (the only thing that I can think of that would work is to have dynamic tokens but I don't know if they'd be any less work or better performance), but I don't think your solution is going to work for anyone using mods with custom weather (or even if vanilla has any weather other than Snow or Sun). But I think you could change your "Weather": "Sun" conditions to check "Weather |contains=Snow": "false" instead and that would work.

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Ah perfect, thats a good consideration I hadnt even thought of

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TBH i didnt know there were weather mods xd

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 8:20 AM

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Yeah they are really cool

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 8:23 AM

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elder kite Ah perfect, thats a good consideration I hadnt even thought of

Ok I said that and then I immediately wrote a two patch solution lol

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(I think. I'm seeing what I expect but that might just be because I expect it haha.)

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{
   "Logname": "Snow",
   "Action": "EditImage",
   "PatchMode": "Overlay",
   "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
   "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_snowy_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
   "Priority": "Late",
   "Update": "OnLocationChange",
   "When": {
      "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
      "= Enable Mod": "true",
      "Winter Changes": "true",
      "Snowy Days": true,
      "Weather": "Snow"
   }
},
{
   "Logname": "No snow",
   "Action": "EditImage",
   "PatchMode": "Overlay",
   "Target": "Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet",
   "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/winter_outdoorsTileSheet.png",
   "Priority": "Late",
   "Update": "OnLocationChange",
   "When": {
      "LocationContext |contains=Island": "false",
      "= Enable Mod": "true",
      "Winter Changes": "true",
      "Query: ({{Snowy Days |contains=false}} AND {{Weather |contains=Snow}}) OR (NOT {{Weather |contains=Snow}})": true
   }
},

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Never used query before

devout otter Oct 31, 2025, 8:26 AM

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hard fern <:SDVpufferlurk:591022278955761676> hii.....sorry to interrupt, but i had an ide...

Can you just have every hint dialogue give you different mail flags, then have all those mail flags be the conditionals for the next part of the quest? That doesn't need a trigger action or anything.

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 8:26 AM

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This has been fun and made me feel better about the pumpkinocalypse

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 8:27 AM

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devout otter Can you just have every hint dialogue give you different mail flags, then have a...

oh yes, the answer is always mail isnt it XD I'll try that once ive written out my event dialogue

(thanks for everyone's suggestions)

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 8:29 AM

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@elder kite by the way, please feel totally free to ignore this, but have you thought about the ramifications of calling your recolour a very similar name to one of the most popular existing recolours? People already refer to DaisyNiko's Earthy Recolour as just "Earthy", so yours will probably always get confused for Daisy's and you might miss out on some word of mouth advertising because people think others are talking about Daisy's.

Again, this is totally up to you and you do not need to respond or justify your decision-making to me in any way. I just wanted to raise it in case you hadn't thought about it and would find it a disappointing shock upon release.

elder kite Oct 31, 2025, 8:41 AM

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vernal crest ```json { "Logname": "Snow", "Action": "EditImage", "PatchMode": "Overl...

This is much cleaner thanks for your help I integrated the query structure into all of the regular versions that have a snowy variant

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As for the name, I hadnt really thought of that 😅

definitely not opposed to changing the name, i just couldnt think of anything i liked better at the time

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at that point id just push the version # to 2.0 lol

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open to suggestions on the name, there arent a lot of synonyms to "earthy"

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Loamy Valley?

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 9:00 AM

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loam...

crude plank Oct 31, 2025, 9:08 AM

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elder kite open to suggestions on the name, there arent a lot of synonyms to "earthy"

Woodsy, rustic, natural, organic

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Though i think rustic and natural are already used by some thing, just can't remember if they're actually recolors

livid kite Oct 31, 2025, 9:17 AM

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Woodsy sounds like a good one, if you want it to be synonymous with Earthy

low marlin Oct 31, 2025, 10:34 AM

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There's a limitation on Nyapu's portraits when it comes to Maggs' "seiso" Seb sprites (I mean non-smoking):

He would still appear smoking in the portraits even when his actions suggest otherwise

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Hope I will just do a patch on this for my custom vkei Seb (and optionally Sam and Abby) retexture

gentle rose Oct 31, 2025, 10:55 AM

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I mean lack of custom compat isn’t generally seen as a limitation or bug

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(also, if maggs doesn’t call it seiso, and you have to explain it anyway, wouldn’t it be easier to just say non smoking from the get go? 😅 save yourself some extra typing)

woeful lintel Oct 31, 2025, 11:07 AM

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hey @frosty hull, I got reports that the latest version of FF doesn't work with the current version of SMAPI for Android, and I've been told it's because it's missing a facade for methods FF is using (ShopMenu.UseDresserTabs). I'm also a bit worried about FF patching inline functions (the filters in ShopMenu.UseFurnitureCatalogueTabs), since I had to target a very specific function path to patch them (in this part of FF: https://github.com/Leroymilo/FurnitureFramework/blob/main/FurnitureFramework/Harmony/HarmonyPatcher.cs#L125)
Could you look into it to add the missing facade, and check if the filter patches are working?

weak pelican Oct 31, 2025, 1:03 PM

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This may be a dumb question but does sdv have some kind of code obfuscation?

vernal crest Oct 31, 2025, 1:06 PM

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I had to google what that is, but I don't think so? The decompile is fairly easy to read for the most part. Why?

calm nebula Oct 31, 2025, 1:06 PM

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No

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There is no obfuscation

gaunt orbit Oct 31, 2025, 2:09 PM

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weak pelican This may be a dumb question but does sdv have some kind of code obfuscation?

no, it's not like minecraft. everything has the original names. If you reference the dll in your own code you'll be able to use it like normal, no processing required. However, c# has compiler-generated classes and methods for certain kinds of syntax, and those can be tricky to target with reflection since they're compiler-named and not human readable.

SMAPI specifically also has a "facade" feature to help with compatibility for older mods, which sort of creates proxies for some things that were removed or changed in newer versions and then rewrites mod code on the fly to use the proxies so it doesn't break.

weak pelican Oct 31, 2025, 2:11 PM

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gaunt orbit no, it's not like minecraft. everything has the original names. If you reference...

Thx that really helped! I have a small experience in Minecraft modding so that's why i asked that (it got removed)

gaunt orbit Oct 31, 2025, 2:12 PM

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!decompile you may find this useful

ocean sailBOT Oct 31, 2025, 2:12 PM

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If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

autumn tide Oct 31, 2025, 2:36 PM

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HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!

tribal ember Oct 31, 2025, 3:43 PM

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@brave fable hi there! im making an update for my UI interface and i would love to include a recolor and slight retexture of Love of Cooking into the compatibilities!
here are what they look like (and im happy to make any edit you wish as well)

woeful lintel Oct 31, 2025, 4:10 PM

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@autumn tide that was close

autumn tide Oct 31, 2025, 4:11 PM

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halloween morning for me lol

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wait go to bed it's like after 1 am for you

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or don't it's halloween

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..sorta

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still enough time for a seance methinks

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OKAY so- as you may or may not know I happen to be an utter dumbass who's too ambitious ANDDD i have a new idea- would it be possible to add some niche unicode characters to the game text and customize the game’s font to have those unicode characters display as different latin script fonts? I want different characters to have different fonts in game bc I am too ambitious for my good :)

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SDVkrobusnaughty

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..if this is impossible please just tell me-

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 4:36 PM

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Impossible without C# trickery, yeah

autumn tide Oct 31, 2025, 4:36 PM

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alr SDVpufferthumbsup

tiny zealot Oct 31, 2025, 4:45 PM

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autumn tide OKAY so- as you may or may not know I happen to be an utter dumbass who's too am...

talk to me about it tomorrow-ish, when i release my font framework that does this exact thing

autumn tide Oct 31, 2025, 4:45 PM

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tiny zealot talk to me about it tomorrow-ish, when i release my font framework that does thi...

aaa that is so cool!

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remind me in 24 hours to talk to ichor about his font framework

patent lanceBOT Oct 31, 2025, 4:46 PM

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Sure thing, head_in_the_cl0uds (#6932897) (24h | <t:1762015560>)

autumn tide Oct 31, 2025, 4:46 PM

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patent lance Sure thing, head_in_the_cl0uds (#6932897) (24h | <t:1762015560>)

huh, the bot doesn't hate me!

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..as much i think

next plaza Oct 31, 2025, 4:51 PM

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tiny zealot talk to me about it tomorrow-ish, when i release my font framework that does thi...

Oh is it that close to release? I thought of that when I responded but I thought it was gonna be a while longer before you released it

tiny zealot Oct 31, 2025, 4:52 PM

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god willing, yes

ivory plume Oct 31, 2025, 5:08 PM

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Monthly mod stats time!

Mod compatibility

79.7% of SMAPI (C#) mods are compatible or have a workaround, up from 79.1% last month.

Unique mods by type

October continues the busy streak with 498 more mods, which is the second-highest number since the Stardew Valley 1.6.0 post-release wave.

Furniture Framework reached 100 content packs last month, so it's now tracked separately in these stats.

The breakdown of new mods by type is:

+322 Content Patcher;
+76 SMAPI;
+38 Fashion Sense;
+19 Alternative Textures;
+19 XNB (???);
+7 Farm Type Manager;
+2 Furniture Framework;
+1 Json Assets;
0 Custom Furniture;
0 Custom Music;
0 Dynamic Game Assets;
0 Mail Framework Mod;
0 Producer Framework Mod;
0 Shop Tile Framework;
0 TMXL;
-3 Better Artisan Good Icons;
and +17 for frameworks with <100 content packs.

Content Patcher packs

We have 12,625 Content Patcher packs.

The top five Format versions remain...

2.0 (3,696 ↗ 3,782), 2.3 (855 ↗ 864), 2.4 (639 ↗ 652), and 2.7 (486 ↗ 500) for Stardew Valley 1.6;
and 1.19 (567 ↗ 572) for Stardew Valley 1.4.

Open source

We have 3,715 tracked C# mods, of which
2,305 mods (62%) have a source code repo, with
1,216 (53%) in a multi-mod repo and 1,089 (47%) in a single-mod repo.

Web costs

And finally, web hosting costs for the SMAPI.io site, update-check server, and API held steady around US$238/month. (The graph is always a bit behind due to billing cycles.)

Has anyone ever thought about doing an expansion mod that focuses only on the vanilla characters? My dream is to do almost an “overhaul” mod someday that adds expanded content, adds and edits events, dialogue, schedules, and maybe even some rival heart events (for non bachelors ofc) for SDV. Not because there’s anything wrong with the core game, it’s obviously brilliant, but because I’d love to expand on the vanilla characters with my head canons and such.

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SDV Expanded does a little bit of it ik

calm nebula Oct 31, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Plenty of people have but you should too

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Nine cakes, etc

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 9:33 PM

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low edge Has anyone ever thought about doing an expansion mod that focuses only on the va...

i think part of the reason people havent done it yet might be because of the compatibility issues it might cause? like putting all changes in one means ur locked into all of it as opposed to a mod that just focuses on dialogue.
(for example) I know sve is big and popular but it also has a lot of changes that are incompatible with smaller mods that just change or or two things, and people then have to make separate patches for it

calm nebula Oct 31, 2025, 9:33 PM

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It's also a lot of work

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Legitimately I recommend breaking it up and focusing on a handful of npcs at a time and releasing those as separate mods

hard fern Oct 31, 2025, 9:34 PM

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maybe breaking it up based on family would work

calm nebula Oct 31, 2025, 9:35 PM

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That's what I was thinking too SDVpufferheart

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I had a project started for science family

low edge Oct 31, 2025, 9:37 PM

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hard fern maybe breaking it up based on family would work

Ooo that’s a great idea!

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And yeah it would be a lot of work, hence my hesitance to do it. Plus the whole thing with people being locked into this mod and nothing else cause of compatibility

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But I’d like to give it try sometime, start by focusing on my favorite characters then going from there.

elfin kindle Oct 31, 2025, 9:50 PM

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If nothing else, i've personally found that having a mod to work on has been really good for just like... my mental health tbh. It's a really fun way to keep your brain active and creative. SO even if not much comes from it, getting into it is highly recommended <3

low edge Oct 31, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Yeah! And honestly even if it’s not gonna be universally popular for the reasons above I’d love to have it for my game. That’s what matters.

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Maybe there will be some that love it and that would be awesome but hey, at least I’d accomplish something!!

latent mauve Oct 31, 2025, 10:12 PM

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Making something that you want to play is a great way to look at it!

hallow prism Oct 31, 2025, 10:54 PM

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i would say there are several mods that touch vanilla npcs, they usually do more small touches than big changes

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but it's how i would advise to start anyway, focus on one aspect (a family as suggested, or a theme, or a set of events), see how you like that, add more

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do you have fun? then continue. if not, release that as a small mod

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 12:26 AM

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??

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 12:28 AM

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????

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 12:29 AM

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i don't think they're gonna get any notifications anymore SDVpufferpensive

lucid iron Nov 1, 2025, 12:31 AM

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for festival appearance i just do IS_EVENT festival_spring24 and such right bolbthinking

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where does this event id get generated

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 12:32 AM

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lucid iron where does this event id get generated

isnt it like, in the Festivals data?

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(i may be misunderstanding)

lucid iron Nov 1, 2025, 12:34 AM

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yea i guess it is indeed just the asset name blobcatgooglyblep

ornate trellis Nov 1, 2025, 12:34 AM

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is it IS_EVENT? i have EVENT_ID festival_spring24 and it works thonking

royal stump Nov 1, 2025, 12:35 AM

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ornate trellis is it IS_EVENT? i have EVENT_ID festival_spring24 and it works <:thonking:375297...

iirc those are the same GSQ & it's the only vanilla GSQ with an alias

ornate trellis Nov 1, 2025, 12:35 AM

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royal stump iirc those are the same GSQ & it's the only vanilla GSQ with an alias

ohh, I see!

lucid iron Nov 1, 2025, 12:35 AM

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        /// <inheritdoc cref="T:StardewValley.Delegates.GameStateQueryDelegate" />
        [OtherNames(new string[] { "EVENT_ID" })]
        public static bool IS_EVENT(string[] query, GameStateQueryContext context)

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yea what esca said

royal stump Nov 1, 2025, 12:36 AM

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also @ whoever posted earlier, don't worry about interrupting if you need to ask something SDVpufferheart

ornate trellis Nov 1, 2025, 12:36 AM

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inch resting how its the only one with an alias

royal stump Nov 1, 2025, 12:37 AM

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I imagine they renamed it mid-development in 1.6 or w/e and decided to use that feature

ornate trellis Nov 1, 2025, 12:37 AM

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yea makes sense

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 12:44 AM

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SDVpufferchickmorning

grim torrent Nov 1, 2025, 12:45 AM

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I'm trying to make a map edit with compatibility with vpr and I don't know if I have to do anything special or just follow the instructions on the wiki for unpacking vanilla maps into tiled bc its like a recolor/texture mod with .png assets rather then .tmx/.tbin i imagine cause its not map files. I'm very new and lowkey not sure about what I'm doing lol 😅

onyx folio Nov 1, 2025, 12:52 AM

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can someone give me a tip on how to make mods easily like character mods

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i just want to add a replacement for Abigail with one of my characterss

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and does it have to have pixel graphics or can it be good

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 12:57 AM

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if you just want to replace the portraits and sprites, all you have to do is be able to make the images and learn a tiny bit of content patcher syntax to load them in

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if you want them to behave like a different character, have a different schedule, etc. then you are signing up for a ton of work and you might as well just make a new NPC instead of replacing one

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and by default, yes you are limited to the same resolutions as the base game, so pixels. there are frameworks available to allow higher-res graphics, but working with those is a bit more complicated

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:00 AM

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Is there a way I can do the "You found a xyz!" and hold it above your head like when finding a geode? but a custom item

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:00 AM

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grim torrent I'm trying to make a map edit with compatibility with vpr and I don't know if I ...

if it's for vpr compatibility i would assume it involves recoloring a number of assets. Im... not sure if that would really require you to unpack anything, let alone use tiled? can you elaborate some more?

brittle pasture Nov 1, 2025, 1:03 AM

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drowsy pewter Is there a way I can do the "You found a xyz!" and hold it above your head like ...

don't think so currently, but if you're willing to wait til 1.7 I think that's dehardcoded

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~~just tell your users to wait 2 years~~

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:04 AM

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drowsy pewter Is there a way I can do the "You found a xyz!" and hold it above your head like ...

i think you can do it in an event with itemAboveHead but not on first find during regular gameplay to my knowledge

grim torrent Nov 1, 2025, 1:07 AM

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hard fern if it's for vpr compatibility i would assume it involves recoloring a number of ...

i probably did a bad job explaining sorry, I want to change some layouts around town, like paving roads, making more bridges, widening paths, etc and inside npc houses, similar to Karmylla's immersive maps, which adds things like kitchens and makes Marnies living room not a fire hazard lol for example. I use vpr and idk if i need to do something special so that new layouts i do don't randomly have vanilla tile textures? if that makes more sense; i might be asking a dumb question but I've noticed other map/layout mods like dusty overhaul specifically state they have compatibility to recolor mods

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 1:07 AM

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You could make it a lost book and then somehow use that as a trigger to give the player the real item using CMF... maybe. Very awkwardly.

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:08 AM

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grim torrent i probably did a bad job explaining sorry, I want to change some layouts around ...

you would only need to provide compatibility for recolors if you are adding your own assets (tilesheets). if you're just reworking the map with the same vanilla tiles, no problem you're good to go

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:08 AM

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grim torrent i probably did a bad job explaining sorry, I want to change some layouts around ...

the dusty overhaul likely adds new assets, so those have to be recolored, but if you're only using vanilla ones, you dont need to recolor anything.

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and if you do it properly, the maps can automatically find the vanilla assets so they will be compatible with every recolor

elfin kindle Nov 1, 2025, 1:09 AM

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I can't explain how cool I feel having gotten this shop up and working within 6h (with dinner breaks and other distractions), I was so worried about setting up the shop but it's been going real smooth SDVpufferfingerguns

grim torrent Nov 1, 2025, 1:09 AM

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oooh okay! thanks that clears it up for me

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:10 AM

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elfin kindle I can't explain how cool I feel having gotten this shop up and working within 6h...

gonna eat the bouquets

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:10 AM

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~~@ iro~~ @tiny zealot Why does that mod need a textbox?

elfin kindle Nov 1, 2025, 1:10 AM

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It was a little like designing candy, very fun

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:11 AM

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next plaza ~~@ iro~~ <@1127795093198352445> Why does that mod need a textbox?

next version was to be driven by GSQs, so users need to be able to type them in. basically need a working textarea

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:11 AM

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Ah

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:11 AM

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i kinda wanna make little candies now... grrr grrr pelican town isnt big enough for a candy store

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:11 AM

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Well that implementation won't allow text longer than the textfield, so keep that in mind

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:12 AM

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(there are other reasons i haven't finished it, but the text problem was one of them too)

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 1:12 AM

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drowsy pewter Is there a way I can do the "You found a xyz!" and hold it above your head like ...

is this in response to you specifically giving them the item and can control the circumstances in which they find it, or is it literally just a random drop or somethin they can get any time randomly and you dont know when

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:12 AM

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I feel like that could be especially fun in an alternate timeline where people here weren't as averse to modpacks. Like, someone makes a spooky shader set to go with their spooky themed pack

ornate trellis Nov 1, 2025, 1:13 AM

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hard fern i kinda wanna make little candies now... grrr grrr pelican town isnt big enough...

~~just add a corner to seedshop or something as a candy corner~~

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:13 AM

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drowsy pewter Is there a way I can do the "You found a xyz!" and hold it above your head like ...

I was about to say "there is in 1.7" but then I saw selph beat me to it

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:14 AM

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ornate trellis ~~just add a corner to seedshop or something as a candy corner~~

Better - add an elevator to pierre's shop.

It's now a vertical shopping complex

elfin kindle Nov 1, 2025, 1:14 AM

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ornate trellis ~~just add a corner to seedshop or something as a candy corner~~

~~Thats literally what i personally did~~

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Little flowershop in the corner

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:15 AM

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if i add a corner next to your corner, then XD SeedShop? more like SnakeShop

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i dont know where i'd even add an extra space in pierre's shop

elfin kindle Nov 1, 2025, 1:15 AM

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Just a line of new little shops, like a mall

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:16 AM

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uncut viper is this in response to you specifically giving them the item and can control the...

I have a trigger action that spawns the first item in a specific spot in the world but they have to pick it up as forage

ornate trellis Nov 1, 2025, 1:16 AM

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shopping mall project when /j

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:17 AM

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you say that but i did actually have an idea

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Stardew Shopping Boulevard.

ornate trellis Nov 1, 2025, 1:17 AM

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SDVpuffersquee

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 1:17 AM

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drowsy pewter I have a trigger action that spawns the first item in a specific spot in the wor...

SDVpufferthinkblob i honestly dont remember if BETAS's CropHarvested trigger works with forage or even if it did if it'd work with objects spawned like that AS forage, but maybe worth a shot?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:17 AM

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drowsy pewter I have a trigger action that spawns the first item in a specific spot in the wor...

~~sounds like a potential use for a certain feature I've talked about that y'all have to wait for the 1.7 alpha to start back up for~~

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:18 AM

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and even if i could trigger something how would i do the whole animation?

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 1:18 AM

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Spiderbuttons.BETAS_HoldUpItem

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(trigger action action that does the hold up item stuff you want like the event command)

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:20 AM

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hard fern Stardew Shopping Boulevard.

ideally there would be like a row of plots and i could just slap a new shop in there whenever i felt like it LOL

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:21 AM

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~~central station addon when~~

onyx folio Nov 1, 2025, 1:21 AM

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tiny zealot and by default, yes you are limited to the same resolutions as the base game, so...

is there any free pixel art things cuz paint.net is too hard for me and i want something that has like a brush that draws multiple shades of the same color to make it look shaded

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:22 AM

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...wait I was joking but that actually sounds like an interesting idea. @ivory plume Central Station shopping area when

onyx folio Nov 1, 2025, 1:22 AM

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cuz im lazy

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 AM

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i thought central station already did rotating shop patches?

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 AM

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onyx folio is there any free pixel art things cuz paint.net is too hard for me and i want s...

!software some things here to check out, but that sort of shortcut is unlikely to produce art that looks like vanilla (this may not be a problem for you)

ocean sailBOT Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 AM

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Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 AM

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next plaza ...wait I was joking but that actually sounds like an interesting idea. <@226803...

Each shop can have a little area to decorate, and what shops are available changes day to day.

If there are more slots than available, multiple floors?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 AM

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uncut viper i thought central station already did rotating shop patches?

...does it?

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What about non rotating shops

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 AM

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they rotate so many mods can have a chance at getting picked

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 AM

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I haven't really actually interacted with mods much since it became a thing

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 AM

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I mean, you can patch directly over the map instead of patching into the existing namespace to make it nonrotating.

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 AM

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i thought CS's rotating shop wasn't implemented yet? did i make that up?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 AM

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uncut viper they rotate so many mods can have a chance at getting picked

Ah. That becomes a problem if you need a shop as a staple and the person has tons of mods. Same problem with games like MC and adding loot to chests

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 AM

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latent mauve I mean, you can patch directly over the map instead of patching into the existin...

Then you have to worry about conflicts 😔

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:25 AM

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They weren't implemented yet when I made my setup, haven't checked to see if the shop rotation is implemented yet

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But yeah, I think the plan was to make shops rotate like the NPC tourists do

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:26 AM

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I was thinking something like the vanilla spouse rooms. But there are multiple available slots, and while people can make shops not always available, they could make ones that are always available. And if they weren't enough room for all of them, second floor or something

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:26 AM

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I wanted a way to guarantee two of my tourists showed up together but that was not a thing either without directly patching a spot

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I had a funny paired dialogue where the two NPCs were on opposite sides of the station and had just missed each other

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:27 AM

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A way to have non-rotating map real estate without constant conflicts would be really nice

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Suddenly imagining something like central station but instead it's just a big room with a bunch of portals to other areas. (Lore wise, going through the portal takes you where you're intending, it's just that the junimo magic the player got afflicted with messed things up a little... or something)

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"what about before the the wizard magical makeover"
something something it still happens in the future and timeline shenanigans

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:29 AM

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I mean, nobody is stopping anyone from making a mall that you use Central Station to reach

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resists urge to do exactly that as a map

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:29 AM

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True, but if it's separate, that's yet another dependency

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 AM

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imagine one of those giant electronic maps like they have in real malls where if you click on the location name it takes u to the store

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 AM

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That would be incredible, but I lack the knowledge

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 AM

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hard fern imagine one of those giant electronic maps like they have in real malls where if...

A drone flies by and grabs you like a claw machine and carries you there

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 AM

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I had the thought of doing a series of shops like in The World Ends With You

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 AM

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latent mauve That would be incredible, but I lack the knowledge

I don't!

But I have too much I want to do, and too little brain energy at the end of each weekday

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 AM

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you guys really like shopping huh

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 AM

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drowsy pewter you guys really like shopping huh

There are two types of people in the world: People who like shopping, and liars

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If you don't enjoy shopping you haven't found the right thing to shop for

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 AM

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I like having money

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 AM

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I coded three different shop lists when the idea of rotating shops even got floated for CS

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 AM

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What use is having money if you can't spend it

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Or do you like money in a scrooge mcduck sort of way

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 AM

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Dont look at my inflatable pool full of pennies

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 AM

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next plaza What use is having money if you can't spend it

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 AM

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For me it was more of an excuse to be able to curate a list of related furniture or decor items for sale in one spot

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Like a toy store or one of those airport novelty shops

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 AM

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drowsy pewter Dont look at my inflatable pool full of pennies

That doesn't pleasant to swim through. But then again, neither does an abyss of papercuts

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 AM

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i like shopping because i get Things

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:33 AM

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latent mauve For me it was more of an excuse to be able to curate a list of related furniture...

~~One shop with a rotating theme~~

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 1:33 AM

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i like shopping in stardew bc it's just fun.

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:33 AM

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drowsy pewter I like having money

also, obligatory

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https://tenor.com/view/hello-money-giveittome-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-4184913

Tenor

Hello I like money

▶ Play video

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:33 AM

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I do a shop with a rotating theme in my cooking mod and its really fun to put together

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:33 AM

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Or if you wanna go full scope creep

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:33 AM

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next plaza What use is having money if you can't spend it

(tante odette's cat voice) money is to spend

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:34 AM

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Big department store with rotating themed area

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Like the holiday section at <insert half of big stores here>

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:34 AM

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Hello everyone I am New modder. I plan to make huge department store mod. Bigger than Zuzu city and with 200 npcs. I have no experience. who wants to help me

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:35 AM

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tiny zealot (tante odette's cat voice) money is to spend

Money you can't spend is either:

Resources you can use for making things (metal)
Resources you can use for burning things (paper)

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 1:35 AM

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To be fair, half the motivation for my unreleased "let me fill a shop inventory by context tag" mod was to let me pull restaurant menus quickly.

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:35 AM

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drowsy pewter Hello everyone I am New modder. I plan to make huge department store mod. Bigger...

hey im great with ideas, can i help? I'll let you have 10% of the DP from the resulting mod

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:36 AM

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Right now my income is a full 25 dollars a month from patreon

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 1:36 AM

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next plaza hey im great with ideas, can i help? I'll let you have 10% of the DP from the re...

You're hired

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:36 AM

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Awesome

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And next

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https://tenor.com/view/ljin-gif-26148240

Tenor

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 1:42 AM

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next plaza What use is having money if you can't spend it

Gambling

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🚀 🚀 🚀

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:44 AM

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That sounds suspiciously like spending it

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Statistically speaking

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 1:44 AM

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I mean i just buy VT and hold onto it forever

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This is how it's supposed to work right

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:45 AM

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That sounds less like gambling

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 1:45 AM

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I've never in my life sold a stock and I'm not sure I know how to

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:45 AM

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I thought you were telling me to hoof it to Vegas

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:45 AM

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Nah, this is atra

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:45 AM

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Now I’m halfway across the country and you tell me I can do this from my couch??

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 1:45 AM

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I did buy some environmentally friendly etfs as a treat

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Only could-actually-technically-be-productive gambling allowed

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:46 AM

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calm nebula I mean i just buy VT and hold onto it forever

no, it doesn't work this way. the state of vermont is not for sale

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:46 AM

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It’s not very big

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For the right price…

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 1:46 AM

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I could do a hundred thousand dollars

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:46 AM

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tiny zealot no, it doesn't work this way. the state of vermont is not for sale

...I have a response to this, but server rules

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Is that enough....

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:46 AM

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Ok maybe slightly more

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You could try maple syrup bribes

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I hear that’s the currency up there

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:47 AM

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calm nebula I could do a hundred thousand dollars

I could use a hundred thousand dollars. Wanna trade?

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I'll give you momo pics

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An infinitely better deal than I offered 6480 for Zuzu City Department Store: the AAA-game-sized mod

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:48 AM

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It sounds like you offered sweet sweet equity

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A classic startup move

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Yeah, but here I'm offering cat pictures

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Need I say more?

tender bloom Nov 1, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Good point

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It’s a bold compensation move, makes you stand out from the competition

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:50 AM

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I should go to bed soon. ~~And be sad I'm not waking up next saturday instead of this saturday, because KAR2 demo~~

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 1:53 AM

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Hmmm but no

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Sorry

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:54 AM

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Hmm

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Pictures of momo, AND ~~totally not stolen~~ pictures of cheese/charming?

hard fern Nov 1, 2025, 2:32 AM

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oh wait is KAR2 supposed to be kirby air ride

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 2:45 AM

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Hi. I'm interested in making a mod, but I have no prior experience with programming or anything like it. Does anyone have any video recommendations on where to begin?

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 2:51 AM

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summer spoke Hi. I'm interested in making a mod, but I have no prior experience with programm...

No, we don't have any up to date video resources for modding Stardew, sorry

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!startmodding

ocean sailBOT Nov 1, 2025, 2:51 AM

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Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 2:53 AM

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thank you

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 2:54 AM

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summer spoke thank you

Don't look at the C# stuff unless you specifically want to make a C# mod. Most things can be done with just Content Patcher and/or other framework mods.

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 2:54 AM

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Right

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:08 AM

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hard fern oh wait is KAR2 supposed to be kirby air ride

Yes

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 3:48 AM

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@tiny zealot I have a vague memory that you added a custom event command or two in your C# mod for Lacey. Is that right?

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 3:51 AM

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(are you asking because you don't know how to make one?)

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 3:53 AM

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(Yes lol I need someone's code to look at - or for someone to point me to the wiki info if it exists because I couldn't find it)

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 3:54 AM

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you can just register event command handlers like you do game State queries or map actions

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 3:54 AM

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I don't know how to do those either

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 3:54 AM

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Event.RegisterCommand or something

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basically exactly like that one modding wiki page about making framework mods

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Except with event commands

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I'm on mobile so I can't find and link it easily atm

boreal cliff Nov 1, 2025, 3:55 AM

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trying to change the golden witch's sprite, but i cant find where its located,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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found it, dumbass (cursors2)

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 3:59 AM

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The wiki has just gone down for me. Once it is back up I will try to find it, thanks Button

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 3:59 AM

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the modding wiki?

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 4:01 AM

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Oh

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Sorry I missed that

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 4:02 AM

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ok im back at my desk now its Event.RegisterCommand you want, with a delegate with a signature of (Event @event, string[] args, EventContext context)

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event command stuff specifically is not on that modding wiki page tho but yeah its just the same exact concept as the GSQ/Trigger Action/Action stuff

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just different things in the function you're writing

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it is however important to remember that most event commands will do @event.CurrentCommand++ at the end to actually move on to the next command. so, yknow, dont forget to do that

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 4:05 AM

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Thank you! Searching for RegisterCommand found me a modding wiki page that is specifically for event commands

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So I will look at both. I can't believe I forgot about the modding wiki haha

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:35 AM

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If I wanted to have Harvey walk down from the clinic and towards the farmer, does anyone know how I do that?

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:36 AM

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In an event?

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:37 AM

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Yes, I want Harvey to start up by the beds before walking down to the waiting room

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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Using the move or advancedMove commands

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Are you making use of the events page on the wiki?

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:38 AM

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yeah, they've been really helpful

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:39 AM

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I also recommend this page on the modding wiki because it has more detailed explanations of a lot of the more common event commands: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Events_for_Everyone

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:39 AM

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I've also asked Google to describe the processes that I don't fully understand to me like I'm 5 and it's been a lot better than I thought it would

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I've already favored that page. I'm really grateful to everyone who contributed to it

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:41 AM

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Don't use AI

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:42 AM

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I'm not

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:42 AM

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How is google "describing" processes to you then?

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:42 AM

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I'm mainly just using it for word definitions

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like the difference between move and advancedmove

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:43 AM

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But what are you looking at for it to be google?

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:43 AM

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google search

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:43 AM

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And are you reading the AI Overview?

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:43 AM

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at first just to see if I put it in the right way

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I have trouble with words sometimes

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so it's better to read it and then change it if it isn't right

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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But then what happens?

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Do you get links to wiki pages?

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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if it is right then i scroll down

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 5:44 AM

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google isnt going to know anything about what "move" or "advancedmove" mean in a stardew context because its just made up stuff

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itd just be grabbing it from the wiki page if anything

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:45 AM

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all i know is that if I put it into google search i tend to read what pops up first

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isn't that ai overview?

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 5:45 AM

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we'd rather explain things to you ourselves than reexplain wrong AI stuff, is what we're saying

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 5:45 AM

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it is AI overview, and its bad

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especially since a lot of stuff that AI is trained on is outdated after 1.6

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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Generative AI (ethics issues aside) needs lots of good, correct data to be able to provide useful information. But it doesn't restrict itself to actually correct data sources, it just tries to find anything that "matches" even if it's old or not even from Stardew.

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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I'm not the smartest person around. I don't want to annoy someone by asking a bunch of bad questions that are

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obvious?

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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Best way to annoy us is to rely on AI

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Best way to not annoy us is to ask us and then trust our answers lol

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 5:46 AM

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the freaks (lovingly) here love helping people

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i should know im one of them

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no matter how obvious the question is, everyone starts somewhere

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:47 AM

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We like being asked for help

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:47 AM

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If you're all sure I'll rely on you instead

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 5:47 AM

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Probably the major mechanical difference you need to be aware of between the two is that advancedMove doesn't stop the other event commands from running at the same time, so if you want the movement to be the only thing happening, you need to use pause commands after it.

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Which also means advancedMove is great for making people move at the same time

ornate locust Nov 1, 2025, 5:49 AM

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peeks in, sees event movement being discussed, screams

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that's the real horror

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:49 AM

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Then can I ask a question about proper mod making use and if it's okay?

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:50 AM

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You can also have other events happen while move is occurring but you have to specify it

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:50 AM

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I was inspired by a mod, how do I give proper

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credits?

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:50 AM

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It depends on what "inspired" means in this context

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 5:51 AM

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If you are using another mods assets (like the art, for example) then you will need to make sure the mod permissions allow for that in new mods and if directions are given on the source mod's page, follow them

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:52 AM

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If you saw/played with the mod and went "this is such a great mod, I have an idea for how to make a similar thing" - no credit necessary but it'd be lovely of you to mention the other mod and link it in your mod page so people can explore that one too if they want.

If yours is an extension of the other mod that requires the other mod to be used, list it as a requirement in your download as well as adding a link to it on the mod page.

fireredlily covered actually using mod assets

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:52 AM

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It's the Slayer Valley. After playing, I can't help but make one of my own based off of Demon Slayer. I don't think I can do better or anything like that, I just got a story stuck in my head that I wanted to try. Truthfully, I don't even know if it's good or not. But I want to try, if that makes sense

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Is that okay, or am I overstepping?

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:53 AM

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So yours is based on the same media but your own interpretation of it?

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 5:53 AM

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i mean its not like their mod is an original idea either

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:53 AM

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yes

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 5:53 AM

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(not in a mean way, just factual)

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:53 AM

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That's totally okay.

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:53 AM

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Right, okay

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 5:54 AM

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It'd be very nice and generous of you if you mentioned Slayer Valley in your mod page - to be like "I played this mod and I thought it was great and it inspired me to try to tell a story from Demon Slayer too, I really recommend that you play it", not "I played Slayer Valley and I thought I could do better" (which some people have actually done!)

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But you don't have to. It's not their IP or idea so if your mod page didn't mention Slayer Valley at all I don't think people would think that was weird.

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 5:55 AM

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Noted

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:11 AM

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vernal crest It'd be very nice and generous of you if you mentioned Slayer Valley in your mod...

The mod descriptions that are like "Ugh does anyone else hate the images in XYZ mod? Heres my mod to make it better! 😁" (exaggeration but not that much LOL)

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:17 AM

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Hey 6480, is spacecore the way to do recipes using context tags, or is there a vanilla way to do it?

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:18 AM

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fervent horizon Hey 6480, is spacecore the way to do recipes using context tags, or is there a v...

Hi, you need spacecore for it!

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:18 AM

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Cool, good to know

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I feel like that is one that needs to be absorbed into 1.7

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As a standard

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:19 AM

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It's pretty unlikely since vanilla wouldnt use it

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But cooking recipes being a tokenizable data model would be great

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just that context tag recipes are a different thing

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:19 AM

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Are you going to make a similar app for crafting recipes?

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:19 AM

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Nope! Haha

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No way

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:20 AM

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Ha

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I can't believe you did all the vanilla cooking recipes to be honest

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 6:20 AM

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drowsy pewter The mod descriptions that are like "Ugh does anyone else hate the images in XYZ ...

where's the exaggeration, I've seen several mods that literally say this lmao

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:20 AM

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It was easy

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I did it as warmup for my 530 custom recipes

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:21 AM

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drowsy pewter just that context tag recipes are a different thing

there's actually a lot that goes into the feature, like choosing a custom ingredient name and icon texture, choosing combos of tags, I cant imagine vanilla ever doing it

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:21 AM

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Is the mod "All the food"

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Yeah, vanilla seams to just go for the - numbers for categories when whole groups can be used like eggs and milk

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:23 AM

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drowsy pewter I did it as warmup for my 530 custom recipes

I'm expecting all of these to be required for perfection, right

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:24 AM

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They have to be

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I actually cannot make them not required

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:24 AM

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Oh yeah, cooking doesn't have the option

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Well, I look forward to see what you have in store

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 6:25 AM

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Imagine making a mod with a cooking recipe that was locked behind perfection

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 6:25 AM

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Thanks! It'll be out in two weeks

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a golden egg recipe sounds delicious

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 6:28 AM

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I didn't even know golden eggs existed until a few weeks ago

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:28 AM

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vernal crest Imagine making a mod with a cooking recipe that was locked behind perfection

Call it Good Luck breakfast.

vernal crest Nov 1, 2025, 6:28 AM

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I've never been close to perfection let alone continuing to play after reaching it

fervent horizon Nov 1, 2025, 6:28 AM

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As in Good luck getting perfection

devout otter Nov 1, 2025, 7:45 AM

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I want to add a simple vanilla white cow as a temporary actor in my event, and to my understanding, this should be correct: /addTemporaryActor \"White Cow\" 2 2 95 23 0 false Animal/

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However, I only see shadow where the cow should be. Was I wrong?

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 8:06 AM

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devout otter I want to add a simple vanilla white cow as a temporary actor in my event, and t...

i think you're making the cow 2 pixels tall by 2 pixels wide

devout otter Nov 1, 2025, 8:07 AM

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D'oh. 🤦‍♂️ Thank you!

uncut viper Nov 1, 2025, 8:07 AM

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the worlds tiniest cow was there all along....

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 8:11 AM

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vernal crest I didn't even know golden eggs existed until a few weeks ago

ca needs to listen to what we keep telling people about not locking things behind perfection /j

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 9:25 AM

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Mini cow

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Sounds like a terrible way to implement a scavenger hunt

blissful panther Nov 1, 2025, 9:36 AM

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livid kite <@147736231072104448> Hi DH, I'm following the Doc on how to add a Close-up inte...

Hey, sorry for the delay! I'll get back to you on this as soon as I can.

Feel free to send it in a DM to keep it easier to find, too.

livid kite Nov 1, 2025, 10:40 AM

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blissful panther Hey, sorry for the delay! I'll get back to you on this as soon as I can. Feel ...

No worries. Ok dm'd you

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 10:56 AM

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tribal ember <@169338783307792385> hi there! im making an update for my UI interface and i wo...

hi, that should be fine SDVpufferthumbsup if you need the original PSD at all for the book texture you can find it here:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/CooksAssistant/tree/master/Work

tribal ember Nov 1, 2025, 10:58 AM

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brave fable hi, that should be fine <:SDVpufferthumbsup:604817082064044062> if you need th...

thank you so much bblue!!! ❤️ appreciate you

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 12:42 PM

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drowsy pewter It's pretty unlikely since vanilla wouldnt use it

/me glances at the tentative JIRA ticket (re:unlikely - obviously vanilla doesn’t use it)
awkward

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(I mean the ticket is just for recipe data model, but still)

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 12:43 PM

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yeah thats what i mean

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data model is one thing

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 12:43 PM

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drowsy pewter yeah thats what i mean

~~you haven’t seen the proposed data model~~

drowsy pewter Nov 1, 2025, 12:43 PM

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well i havent

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 12:44 PM

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It’s actually the ticket I investigating yesterday 😅

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It totally makes sense to hardcode it as is currently, rather than use the common Fields for Spawning Items

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Nothing suspicious about that message, carry on

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(Still tentatively of course, but I doubt it’ll be difficult enough to can it)

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:01 PM

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unsurprisingly i've thought about a recipe data model a couple times before, but it's surprising how tight-knit it is in different places, and how much room it has to expand or just break

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:03 PM

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Yeah, that’s why I wanted to actually look into it before I started, since I recalled it being that way when having done the SpaceCore stuff

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~~I may have glanced at LoC and Better Crafting to see if there were any fundamental features not too far out of scope for vanilla that I wasn’t thinking of~~

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(Not the implementation, literally just “what all does loc do” (seemed to mainly be new spices, as far as things touching this) and “what does BC’s API allow”. Not adding everything I saw of course, but it gave me an idea or too)

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(Was just looking for any aspects that could be dehardcoded without adding mechanics or new things to the game, you know?)

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 1:07 PM

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vernal crest Imagine making a mod with a cooking recipe that was locked behind perfection

well it's possible without breaking perfection by patching it in conditionally: the recipe only exists after perfection is reached

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:08 PM

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next plaza (Not the implementation, literally just “what all does loc do” (seemed to mainly...

honestly i think the main paint-point is in breaking up the cooking recipe method into smaller bite-sized pieces

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:09 PM

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(A perfection required flag was on Pathos’s proposed data model as well)

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:09 PM

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but very glad you also looked at craftingrecipe with at least a little naivety in thinking 'surely i could do it better and surely it won't take a few days and some actual forethought'

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:09 PM

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brave fable honestly i think the main paint-point is in breaking up the cooking recipe metho...

How so?

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:10 PM

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run a cheeky little harmony_summary to get a little perspective on the number of mods attaching variously freakish patches to the cook method SDVdemetriums

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it's not that bad but it's a little amusing

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:11 PM

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brave fable but very glad you also looked at craftingrecipe with at least a little naivety i...

I mean, textboxes took two days, and I doubt this’ll be harder. 😛

<thing I don’t think I’ve mentioned in the alpha thread yet but is kinda game changing for c# mods> is the only thing I’ve done lately that has taken longer than that

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(Hasn’t been mentioned yet because I need to finalize something adjacent still)

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:12 PM

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brave fable run a cheeky little harmony_summary to get a little perspective on the number of...

Well, what do you mean by splitting out ingredients

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:13 PM

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next plaza (Hasn’t been mentioned yet because I need to finalize something adjacent still)

(Maybe that’s what I should work on this weekend. After this part it can’t be hidden because Pathos will need to review a SMAPI PR 😅 )

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:13 PM

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ah, ingredients?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:14 PM

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Is that not what you meant

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 1:14 PM

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next plaza I mean, textboxes took two days, and I doubt this’ll be harder. 😛 <thing I don...

👀 Squint 👀

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:14 PM

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i mostly just meant dividing the single monolithic do-everything-for-cooking-including-consuming-items-creating-output-and-also-add-seasonings method into its components, which while a big breaking change, would likely be beneficial for the handful of mods that like to operate on each step

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not that it'd likely benefit vanilla at all beyond a little refactoring

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:16 PM

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Also I guess @rancid musk anything on your crafting recipe wishlist to make BC simpler that’s not outrageously out of scope for vanilla? Main thing I noticed on that front was potentially being able to pass a list of recipes into CraftingPage directly (if you even use that? I’m sure someone would though)

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:16 PM

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i think that idea came from Limited Campfire Cooking

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i'd supported it a little into the love of cooking until something happened

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:16 PM

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brave fable i mostly just meant dividing the single monolithic do-everything-for-cooking-inc...

Oh, right. Yeah adding easily patchable points if I’m breaking it all anyways is something I wanted to keep in mind, since a lot of mods touch this already

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:17 PM

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brave fable i think that idea came from Limited Campfire Cooking

Ahhhhhh. See I checked the wiki after reading the code and was like “wait is that not a vanilla feature??????”

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:17 PM

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BC would get a lot out of that too what with Custom Crafting Stations

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:19 PM

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I haven't looked at the crafting code in awhile, but I would imagine for BC and some other mods, having easier control of what is used for crafting would be beneficial for stuff like using adjacent chests and stuff

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:21 PM

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gentle rose 👀 <:Squint:1355646632464482484> 👀

(I did mention something super adjacent to what this feature is about in a thread recently, but I'm not saying any more than that 😛 )

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(until it's ready for alpha or the SMAPI PR anyways)

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:21 PM

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in terms of features at all, I do recall people earlier wanting to do recipes that have constraints like "an item with both context tag A and context tag B"
which isnt easy to do in CP even with spacecore allowing context tag recipes

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:22 PM

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lucid mulch I haven't looked at the crafting code in awhile, but I would imagine for BC and ...

Does the IInventory thing not already handle that?

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 1:22 PM

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next plaza (I did mention something super adjacent to what this feature is about in a threa...

ap_Mad_CrossFace

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:22 PM

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vernal crest <@1127795093198352445> I have a vague memory that you added a custom event comma...

yes! can't stick around rn but i see that button pointed you to some resources. you can of course look through lacey's code for examples as well SDVpufferheart (not all examples you may find are a good idea. some of that code is 1.5-era /lh)

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 1:22 PM

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hello iro CB_wave_boy how’s the font mod going

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 PM

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gentle rose <:ap_Mad_CrossFace:640124660511408158>

Well I'll give one more hint: it wasn't the alpha thread or one of my crime threads. (Actually, I know you already saw it.)

Nothing more though. Not even confirmation or denial 😛

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 PM

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next plaza Does the IInventory thing not already handle that?

i think what's missing is an entry point for deciding those containers, since currently iirc it's not so simple to determine them from a single point. not that i've looked in a while since it's decidedly close to multiplematrixrequest lambdas that i hate touching

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 PM

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gentle rose hello iro <a:CB_wave_boy:430423997763551245> how’s the font mod going

SDVpuffersquint

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 PM

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iro saying hello iro

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iroception

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 PM

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brave fable i think what's missing is an entry point for deciding those containers, since cu...

Ah, I thought you meant from an entirely custom point, not hooking into existing calculations

tiny zealot Nov 1, 2025, 1:23 PM

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gentle rose hello iro <a:CB_wave_boy:430423997763551245> how’s the font mod going

gotta button it up, hopefully today, but busy rn gotta go

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 PM

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gray bear iro saying hello iro

(If it were just that I wouldn't be SDVpuffersquint ing)

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 PM

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oh well i didn't raise the original point, sinz probably has something else in mind

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 PM

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(I know them well enough to know it's something much more nefarious (and directed at me))

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 PM

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brave fable oh well i didn't raise the original point, sinz probably has something else in m...

Hmm, fair

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 PM

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they r quite criminal-coded

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 PM

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If you know you know

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:24 PM

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I was mainly just guessing at wishlist as I don't actually do content modding to actually know properly

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:25 PM

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Ah

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I'll wait for khloe to weigh in, then

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Not like I'll be touching that again until monday at the earliest anyways

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:25 PM

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I just live in my humble performance corner, and only look at the rest of the codebase when people ask questions and I read the code to figure out an answer

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:26 PM

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lucid mulch I just live in my humble performance corner, and only look at the rest of the co...

performance what's that

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:26 PM

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remind me in 10 hours to actually work on stardew projects

patent lanceBOT Nov 1, 2025, 1:26 PM

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freakin' sinz163, always needin' stuff. FINE. (#6934191) (10h | <t:1762039585>)

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:26 PM

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sinz, how would you create a craftingrecipe data model? please answer in 300 words or fewer

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:26 PM

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/me makes recursive call with 100 method calls that have 1000 string allocations each, that is called multiple times every frame

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:27 PM

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without actually spending a few hours doing research, I would base it initially off machine rules

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:27 PM

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brave fable sinz, how would *you* create a craftingrecipe data model? please answer in 300 w...

Are you a schoolteacher or is SinZ an LLM you're prompting

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:27 PM

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the line grows more blurred each day

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:27 PM

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lucid mulch without actually spending a few hours doing research, I would base it initially ...

Huh, that's actually an interesting idea

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:27 PM

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brave fable the line grows more blurred each day

for which one

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:28 PM

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i don't know SDVpufferpensive too blurry

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 1:28 PM

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brave fable sinz, how would *you* create a craftingrecipe data model? please answer in 300 w...

embedded raw xml, duh

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:29 PM

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gentle rose embedded raw xml, duh

~~I mean the content pipeline is using xml, not json~~

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 1:29 PM

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realized that i actually have to make the mod when i'm done drawing and writing SDVemoteconfuse

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:29 PM

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i have an issue with the opposite

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how art? what is writing? a pile of meaningless words

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 PM

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next plaza ~~I mean the content pipeline *is* using xml, not json~~

one day I’ll figure out what form the content pipeline stores and communicates data as. today is not that day

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 PM

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didn't I literally just say though

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and for storing it... open an xnb in notepad, that makes it pretty clear

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 PM

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gray bear how art? what is writing? a pile of meaningless words

I mean I've never actually tried modding, maybe it'll be great fun!

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🤩

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:30 PM

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oh the actual modding bit isn't bad

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 PM

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really?

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 PM

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next plaza didn't I literally just say though

you did! and it contradicts either with what I’ve been told by others or with how I understood what I was told! and now I’m confused!

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 PM

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takes a while to get into it but as long as u get the basics it's not like mind breaking

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:31 PM

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but the idea would be having a list of item rules that define the inputs, and then either a single or list of output rules defining what it'll make.
output might need to be more constrained due to the UI wanting to know ahead of time what it should be, but it would be nice to have some way for the inputs to mutate the output

though it would be nice to be able to define a recipe that does multiple semantic recipes with one entry, it would cause vanilla problems with how perfection is calculated

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content pipeline is just C# types, it doesn't serialize anything

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 PM

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gentle rose you did! and it contradicts either with what I’ve been told by others or with ho...

Ah. Well, chaos and confusion is fun, so mission accomplished, I guess

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 PM

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wormrise

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:32 PM

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lucid mulch content pipeline is just C# types, it doesn't serialize anything

huh? You don't think we edit the the xnbs as binary, do you? (Or did you mean something else)

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 1:33 PM

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Cursed mod idea shovel tool that lets you dig but also add snow you need to clear

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:34 PM

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in terms of Loads and Edits, its just C# types

when no one does a load and it falls back to the XNB reader, then it'll deserialize the XNB file using binary readers and stuff, but the content pipeline will store the C# representation of it

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:35 PM

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Oh are you talking about on the CP side?

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Because the building-for-game side has no concept of edits

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:35 PM

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the smapi side, but yeah

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:35 PM

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I was talking about the game side

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It's just the normal XNA/MG method for building the content

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:36 PM

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shut edge Cursed mod idea shovel tool that lets you dig but also add snow you need to clea...

well it'd give u something to do in winter instead of [checks notes] sleeping

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:37 PM

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updates atra's Shovel mod, but adds a Unquality of Life config setting

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:37 PM

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👀

brave fable Nov 1, 2025, 1:38 PM

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lucid mulch but the idea would be having a list of item rules that define the inputs, and th...

see, the possibility for multiple recipes to define the same output more makes me think that it's the items themselves that should be considered for crafting perfection based on whether they're included as a possible recipe output, rather than the recipe itself being the perfection condition

gray bear Nov 1, 2025, 1:38 PM

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i know halloween is tech over but great idea for it

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:47 PM

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next plaza It's just the normal XNA/MG method for building the content

it being xml is more of a source code thing afaik, the XNB reader to my knowledge doesn't use any xml serialization/deserialization and it does its own binary format with readers in part as xnb as a format also has to handle images, audio (which stardew doesnt use) and maps very well, in addition to boring data assets

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:48 PM

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The reader is just deserialization stuff

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I meant XML for the serialization part

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Again I meant content pipeline in the sense of the game, not in the sense of SMAPI

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Like it's literally this https://docs.monogame.net/articles/getting_to_know/whatis/content_pipeline/CP_Content_Advanced.html

What are custom content types? | MonoGame

Content Builders and Processors can be customized to handle almost any content type.

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Also stardew doesn't use XNB for audio because that's not even a thing. It uses the other part of XNA/MG dedicated for audio (the XACT stuff)

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(Hence the separate wavebank/soundbank, for example)

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:51 PM

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yeah most of the pipeline in traditional xna/monogame is all about the long process to make the xnb files to begin with, with relatively little of the overall process being the runtime reading of the files
which SMAPI heavily expands on

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I haven't looked into it much from a pure monogame standpoint other than confirming that monogame as a whole really wants it running on mainthread

and I spent awhile in the rabbit hole to confirm how xnb maps with xTile are semantically tbin files in a trench coat

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:54 PM

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Oh, yeah, they definitely are. The xTile map situation is so weird

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But as far as stardew specific stuff, it's all xml

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(xTile is a third party library with tweaks is why I don't count it)

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 1:55 PM

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ivory plume Monthly mod stats time! ### Mod compatibility 79.7% of SMAPI (C#) mods are comp...

HOLLY SHIT! FF is out of the "frameworks with <100 content packs" category! Life goal met!

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:56 PM

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Who needs discord discussions when you can have cat

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 1:56 PM

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woeful lintel HOLLY SHIT! FF is out of the "frameworks with <100 content packs" category! Life...

This just made my day

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 1:56 PM

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next plaza Who needs discord discussions when you can have cat

blurry ass cat

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:56 PM

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He was moving around so I didn’t give the camera time to focus

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 1:56 PM

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now to figure out how to put comic sans ms all over my blog

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 1:57 PM

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(he's currently in a "must pace back and forth across the entire desk" mood)

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 1:58 PM

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I don't keep many blurry ones so have fun

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:01 PM

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A reasonable person would work on one of their mods right now.

A casey person would start yet another new mod idea based on the ideas she's had this week but has been too braindrained in the evening to work on

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:02 PM

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my day today pretty much was just youtube and more hpmor audio book

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:02 PM

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That's fair

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I mainly meant "working on one of the many existing projects is reasonable, compared to starting even more new ones"

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:02 PM

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tomorrow I'll hopefully get my attention on my stardew backlog, and work on the .NET 9 smapi experiment which in turn can do custom GC experiments

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and I also need to implement a sampling engine for profiler so GC and frametime measurements dont make gigabyte sized log files and actively harm performance trying to log so much in bulk

hallow prism Nov 1, 2025, 2:04 PM

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next plaza I mainly meant "working on one of the many existing projects is reasonable, comp...

(i have several projects that i could work on, and instead decided to do art for a mod when i don't know yet what i want to do for the other parts)

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:06 PM

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Oh yeah forgot this is also a 4 day long weekend for me, so even more time to try and burn the stardew backlog

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 2:07 PM

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woeful lintel HOLLY SHIT! FF is out of the "frameworks with <100 content packs" category! Life...

you missed pathos' congrats last month I think SDVpuffersquee

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 2:09 PM

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you think so? I didn't get any ping about it, and I thought that the threshold was reached very recently

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:09 PM

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hallow prism (i have several projects that i could work on, and instead decided to do art for...

I might have more than just a couple potential ideas

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 2:10 PM

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woeful lintel you think so? I didn't get any ping about it, and I thought that the threshold w...

pathos congratulated you with a ping last month, not sure why discord didn't show it to you

#making-mods-general message

hallow prism Nov 1, 2025, 2:11 PM

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i have hmm... 4 current projects i'm working on (but to be fair 3 of them are variation on giant crop theme), and at least 3 projects i consider doing but they aren't really advanced

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whatever i have vague note about but not actual work for

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the giant crop stuff i may have something ready today possibly

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:12 PM

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You know, another reason we need "content packs that use mods but aren't content packs for that mod" is because we don't get on that 100+ users list if we don't have dedicated content packs (and if you can do it from CP too, it basically won't happen regardless).

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Ex. how many mods use spacecore content extension stuff, but spacecore is left out because CP stole its piece of the pie? 😔

hallow prism Nov 1, 2025, 2:13 PM

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we obviously just need a CP pie when we can see the fillings

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(which is obviously extra hard to do because things don't even need to be a dependancy, they can be a simple when patch/include)

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 2:14 PM

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next plaza I might have more than just a couple potential ideas

-# 8

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:14 PM

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hallow prism (which is obviously extra hard to do because things don't even need to be a depe...

Yeah iro(?) and I talked about that here shortly after Pathos posted the stats

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:15 PM

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gentle rose -# 8

The thing about 8 (and also 2 and 3) is that I can't work on it immediately, I gotta figure out more precisely what I want first 😔

hallow prism Nov 1, 2025, 2:15 PM

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as a content pack modder i am super grateful for this option but it is indeed making some things less visible

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 2:15 PM

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damn, I was even active when this was posted, I guess discord didn't think I wanted to see that

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:16 PM

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next plaza Ex. how many mods use spacecore content extension stuff, but spacecore is left o...

Considerably more expensive to compute, as targetting a mod provided asset doesn't require any metadata in the manifest, so to get an accurate view needs to read the content json and follow every import

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:16 PM

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hallow prism as a content pack modder i am super grateful for this option but it is indeed ma...

~~I still think CP and GMCM should be SMAPI features~~

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:16 PM

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lucid mulch Considerably more expensive to compute, as targetting a mod provided asset doesn...

I am quite aware

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:17 PM

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next plaza Yeah iro(?) and I talked about that here shortly after Pathos posted the stats

Like I said

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And like, as far as percentage goes, yeah, it's much more computation.

But I mean it's hardly LLM level of computation. I imagine more time would be spent waiting for file IO, at least for a very basic version

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:19 PM

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I can see cp being an included/default mod like console commands, but I think the ecosystem does benefit from it not being baked into smapi as it ensures the content pipeline extensibility is possible userland

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 2:19 PM

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I guess the hurdele is having to write the code that goes through CP patches to find assets added by other mods

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which don't even need to follow a specific patern

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:19 PM

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And I'm doubtful Pathos counts all those things by hand, so it'd just be another script to run once its made. (Of course, it still needs making, but the computation time is not that big of a deal in my opinion)

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:20 PM

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I have a copy of the mod dump somewhere and I have some old scripts to interact with it, so could attempt to calculate it

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:21 PM

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lucid mulch I can see cp being an included/default mod like console commands, but I think th...

Yeah. I mean, Pathos wouldn't accidentally make CP able to do something a mod couldn't even if it was SMAPI-core, but I get your point. But in my mind, I consider Console Commands to be part of SMAPI, not a separate mod that happens to be bundled, since it doesn't exactly have its own release cycle

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Like if you think about Error Handler (RIP) - sure, it was technically separate, but there was really no reason you should remove it

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:22 PM

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Historically I would have also said cp having an independent release cycle is also a benefit but with pathos always being busy, that is less of a thing due to how pathos does the mod update waves which includes smapi

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:24 PM

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Yeah. I also don't think SMAPI updates more than like 3-4 times a year (not counting hotfixes) would be bad thing, either

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But of course this is "ideally", which is hard with (as you mentioned) Pathos always being busy

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glances at my PR that's over a year old

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(which needs updating for latest SMAPI by now, but it never even got code review comments from Pathos since he's just so busy)

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:32 PM

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I don't know if this is a dumb question, but how did you go about adding emotions to the dwarf?

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:37 PM

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worthy ermine I don't know if this is a dumb question, but how did you go about adding emotion...

Uhhh, I'm not entirely sure how to explain it well tbh, but I just used a template with more emotion slots when making my portraits. You can use my mod as a base for yours if you'd like :)

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:38 PM

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autumn tide Uhhh, I'm not entirely sure how to explain it well tbh, but I just used a templa...

really!? That's so nice!

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:38 PM

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worthy ermine really!? That's so nice!

ofc! glad to help out :))

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:39 PM

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do i just download the mod to use it as a base?

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:42 PM

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yup! Just replace the photo, optionally change the character data edit thing I did to make one of dwarf's portraits shake, and edit the manifest :)

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:43 PM

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worthy ermine do i just download the mod to use it as a base?

I'd love to see your portraits when you're done!

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:46 PM

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autumn tide yup! Just replace the photo, optionally change the character data edit thing I d...

I'm getting this error when trying to unzip your mod, is it anything to worry about?

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:46 PM

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omg that's so weird another person already reported that?

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I have no clue, sorry :(

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I'll just send the mod directly

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:48 PM

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Hmm. If y’all were to classify magic in Stardew, what would you end up with? I’m currently thinking:

nature magic - junimos
arcane magic - wizard
enchanting(/vaguely magitech?) - dwarves (ie. The volcano caldera)
Maybe shadow magic - shadow people (such as the shamans), possibly the witch

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And of course we can’t forget

dance magic (whatever goes on in that Emily event)
(/s)

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:49 PM

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next plaza Hmm. If y’all were to classify magic in Stardew, what would you end up with? I’m...

is welwick arcane too?

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that one has the same error, I'll try skipping and seeing if it still works

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:50 PM

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oo and like fire/solar magic like in the volcano dungeon

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:50 PM

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worthy ermine is welwick arcane too?

Hmm, yeah, like a prophetic sub school of arcane magic I think (not entirely separate since I think the wizard mentioned them going to school together? Could be totally misremembering)

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:51 PM

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next plaza Hmm. If y’all were to classify magic in Stardew, what would you end up with? I’m...

I already have some stuffs written on void/shadowfolk magic for my mod if you're interested!

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:51 PM

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The error appears for every single one of the files in the mod 😭

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:51 PM

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..HOW

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:52 PM

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worthy ermine The error appears for every single one of the files in the mod 😭

okay I'll send them all one-by-one 😭

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:52 PM

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autumn tide I already have some stuffs written on void/shadowfolk magic for my mod if you're...

I mean I’ll be making my own mod from scratch an so am leaning mainly towards vanilla, but I always enjoy a good magic system/lore

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:52 PM

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next plaza I mean I’ll be making my own mod from scratch an so am leaning mainly towards va...

alr! new mod project i see lolol

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:52 PM

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next plaza I mean I’ll be making my own mod from scratch an so am leaning mainly towards va...

do you know what's happening with claude's mod?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:53 PM

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autumn tide alr! new mod project i see lolol

I mean it’ll be like the 4th magic mod I’ve worked on but yeah

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:53 PM

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you seem like a modding genius

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:53 PM

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worthy ermine do you know what's happening with claude's mod?

Not remotely

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:53 PM

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next plaza I mean I’ll be making my own mod from scratch an so am leaning mainly towards va...

also it'll take a second cause I gotta fix up what i wrote since i typed it at one AM on my phone

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:53 PM

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wait claude are you on MAC?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:53 PM

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worthy ermine you seem like a modding genius

I mean I know how to make things happen with code - have coded for like 16 years and modded Stardew in particular since the year it came out.

But for not-code stuff I’m not as good at 😛

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:54 PM

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worthy ermine wait claude are you on MAC?

..yes

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:55 PM

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autumn tide ..yes

seems like a likely cause

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:55 PM

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i thought so? but it still doesn't make sense why it would break?

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:56 PM

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next plaza Hmm. If y’all were to classify magic in Stardew, what would you end up with? I’m...

for me, a big part is needing to invest in unlocking the magic, or having a resource upkeep to power the magic

one of the reasons I uninstalled the druid was that you become very powerful almost instantly, and obsoleted a good amount progression from everything else

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:57 PM

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Yeah, that's part of why I got tired of my original magic mod

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That and most of the things you could do were like... things you could already do, but using mana instead of stamina (or something else)?

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 2:58 PM

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autumn tide i thought so? but it still doesn't make sense why it would break?

I don't know exactly but it's usually something

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 2:59 PM

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its hard to introduce new systems like magic and have it be balanced with everything else without obsoleting other systems or being dead content

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:59 PM

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The analyze system was an improvement compared to how it worked in Magic's initial release, but not enough

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 2:59 PM

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worthy ermine I don't know exactly but it's usually something

alr here are the files, note that the image should be in a folder called 'Assets'

📎 content.json 📎 manifest.json

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 2:59 PM

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lucid mulch its hard to introduce new systems like magic and have it be balanced with everyt...

Yeah, that's another thing I'm trying to consider.

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If I do the automation mod, I'd probably accomplish that by changing progression, since vanilla is basically "manual at early game" and then "hopper at end game", and most of an automation mod would be beyond vanilla hopper level

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 3:00 PM

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autumn tide alr here are the files, note that the image should be in a folder called 'Assets...

❤️‍🔥 ❤️‍🔥 ❤️‍🔥

gentle rose Nov 1, 2025, 3:00 PM

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balance is for nerds I want my magic to make me feel powerful /hj

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:00 PM

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gentle rose balance is for nerds I want my magic to make me feel powerful /hj

Why not both

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After all, if you're wielding power that can bend the laws of the universe, it stands to reason that if you dive deep enough, you can become silly OP

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But it would definitely need to be something you put a lot of focus on and actively try to make happen

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Rather than could happen accidentally in a casual playthrough

rancid musk Nov 1, 2025, 3:02 PM

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next plaza Also I guess <@335279695673163776> anything on your crafting recipe wishlist to ...

It's been a while since I've touched Stardew stuff, so I'd need to give this a good long think, but the biggest qualitative change is just the whole recipe data model thing. Nothing about the original menu implementation really matters to me since my menu isn't based on it. There's no amount of reasonable work you could do to make it flexible enough for that purpose.

Perhaps the biggest pain point of working with inventories is mutex stuff, but it would be too easy to add bugs to the game messing with those, I expect. Still, it would be nice if the game handled chest mutexes in non-processing locations better. Maybe just a way to tell the game to process a location temporarily?

I'll think about this some more.

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:02 PM

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the 'easiest' place for magic is teleportation, and have the warp sceptre, warp totems and the obelisks be part of the magic system

when it starts interacting with the farming loop, competing with iridium scythe (but not needing mastery) or tractor (without the resource cost) that's where it has issues

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:02 PM

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rancid musk It's been a while since I've touched Stardew stuff, so I'd need to give this a g...

I'm not sure how feasible the other-location-chest thing is since a farmhand would then need to have those locations synced, but I'll keep that in mind. Feel free to ping me again if you have any more thoughts

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:03 PM

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lucid mulch the 'easiest' place for magic is teleportation, and have the warp sceptre, warp ...

Yeah, my current idea for farming type stuff in particular is things you just can't do at all in vanilla (though what precisely that means is still being figured out).

I really liked the teleportation system I came up with for S&S

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:04 PM

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my playthrough of S&S I dont think ever got far enough to actually enable any magic

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:04 PM

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It was a little obtuse until you tinkered with it though

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:04 PM

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next plaza Hmm. If y’all were to classify magic in Stardew, what would you end up with? I’m...

alr here's my shadowfolk magic lore!
Shadowfolk magic involves some control over life/energy/health/etc, which is why the shadow shamans can make you prone to attack. Most shadow folk, including the more powerful ones, rarely leave the caves and do not enter the mines unless they need to feed, (on energy or like eating meat/other food) which happens every month or so, note that feeding on energy is much more efficient than eating.

Shadowfolk have cores, if a sheep were a shadowperson, its body would be the core (that’s the sentient bit that can actually get hurt) and its wool would be the outer layer, can regen shadow mass (wool in this analogy) like amphibians regenerate limbs. Cores are kinda like the ligaments that hold biological bodies together, the weaker your core, the weaker you are BUT the more control you have over your form.
All Shadowfolk have some slight body warping/teleportation-y abilities, but they’re fairly mild in most, limited to ability to change shape (to a degree) and fast movement in complete darkness. The more robust your core, the less motion you have. Core health is basically the health of the being, shadow folk with small cores are physically weaker and need to feed more often, BUT can warp their form much more easily. As Krobus has damage to their core, they can cling to shadows, teleport short distances (with difficulty) and effectively turn invisible.

rancid musk Nov 1, 2025, 3:05 PM

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Yeah, exactly. I don't expect any changes to how chests work since it's running into fundamental limits of how the netcode is implemented. Just saying it's on my wishlist is all 😛

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:05 PM

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autumn tide omg that's so weird another person already reported that?

rezip it?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:06 PM

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lucid mulch my playthrough of S&S I dont think ever got far enough to actually enable any ma...

The thing I did for S&S was essentially:

You place a teleportation circle, and at least four table-like furniture with objects on them on that circle.
Walking on the circle would then teleport to a circle that has matching object configuration, if you had the required fuel (or it was in a nearby chest).
If you want it to go to a different spot, you change the table items to match the other spot.

This also meant you had to actually set up the teleportation target area yourself wherever you wanted to go. (Which also allowed players to define their own targets, rather than a hardcoded list)

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:06 PM

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woeful lintel rezip it?

i did for lemonwinner and it still didn't work SDVpufferwaaah

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:07 PM

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damn

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how do you zip?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:07 PM

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Maybe that has changed since I stopped working on S&S a year ago, but that was the idea behind the version I implemented

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:07 PM

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autumn tide alr here's my shadowfolk magic lore! Shadowfolk magic involves some control over...

OH and also shadowfolk can heal others

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:08 PM

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autumn tide alr here's my shadowfolk magic lore! Shadowfolk magic involves some control over...

Hmm, interesting. Some aspects of this I was thinking a little differently for my mod, but this does give me a couple ideas

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:08 PM

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woeful lintel how do you zip?

uhhh just right-click and then compress

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:09 PM

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oldschool runescape has a decent list of spells which could translate to stardew well.
some that come to mind are thralls for combat and maybe mining, NPC Contact for remotely talking to someone, Geomancy to remotely view the status of farm patches and Resurrect Crops to have a chance to revive dead farming patches

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:09 PM

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hmmm, can you zip through command line on mac? maybe it would give you more info

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:09 PM

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I didn't realize RS had non-combat spells

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:10 PM

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woeful lintel hmmm, can you zip through command line on mac? maybe it would give you more info

oh is that an app?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:10 PM

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That was another problem I had with the original magic mod. A lot of it was combat focused, and combat in stardew needs an overhaul, not "simply" more mechanics

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:10 PM

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next plaza I didn't realize RS had non-combat spells

OSRS magic is broadly split between combat spells, teleport spells and utility spells, which all 3 are split across 4 different spellbooks

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:11 PM

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like, open a terminal and use a command to zip your file instead of the UI

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:11 PM

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(A combat overhaul is somewhere in my idea backlog, and I did start on it at one point)

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:11 PM

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woeful lintel like, open a terminal and use a command to zip your file instead of the UI

huh, alr!

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:11 PM

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next plaza (A combat overhaul *is* somewhere in my idea backlog, and I did start on it at o...

KNEW IT OMG

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🤣

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:11 PM

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I mean it's literally on my github repo

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It's not hard to find 😂

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:11 PM

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I did like dalion's combat changes in his profession overhaul stuff

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giving clubs and swords very different personalities

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:12 PM

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(maybe slightly harder since the reorganization, since the project isn't in the top level folder anymore)

obtuse finch Nov 1, 2025, 3:12 PM

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Hello, I hope this is the right channel to talk about this, do tell me if otherwise.

I'm a first time modder and I'm having trouble with this particular problem: [Content Patcher] Could not load content pack: content pack doesn't specify the required Format field..

Throughout my research, I've tried Format: 1.30.0 and 2.8.0. Both didn't work

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:12 PM

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next plaza I mean it's literally on my github repo

idk i haven't been on your github lol

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:12 PM

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lucid mulch giving clubs and swords very different personalities

Yeah, that was part of the mod I had as well. But that's not enough in my opinion

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I think two more things need addressing as a core part of a combat overhaul mod:

Player movement during combat
Monster behavior

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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obtuse finch Hello, I hope this is the right channel to talk about this, do tell me if otherw...

this is right channel :)

obtuse finch Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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Oh phew!

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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obtuse finch Hello, I hope this is the right channel to talk about this, do tell me if otherw...

seems like the Format field is missing according to the message, did you misstype it?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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I actually had one aspect of the player movement part made

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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or maybe it's in the wrong place

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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You could double tap a direction key to dash in that direction

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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!content anyway

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that's not the right command

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:13 PM

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dalion did have different sword effects so some were defensive swords that ddi the parry thing, and others were offensive that did a forward dash thing

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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I don't know the right command

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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!json

ocean sailBOT Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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(I wanted an outright roll, but farmer animations. Though I'm willing to take another stab at that eventually)

obtuse finch Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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woeful lintel seems like the Format field is missing according to the message, did you misstyp...

"Format": "1.30.0"

Is it correct?

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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Someday I may attempt to comission someone to make a spells system based on the ring menu from secret of mana / evermore

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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lucid mulch dalion did have different sword effects so some were defensive swords that ddi t...

Yeah ~~though a small portion of that is actually leftover vanilla code, though not an actually usable amount~~

calm nebula Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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next plaza Who needs discord discussions when you can have cat

Cat!

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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if you are writing a mod in 2025 you very much should be using a modern format like 2.8.0 and not a format from a few years ago

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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obtuse finch "Format": "1.30.0" Is it correct?

try the json formatter, the link is in the box above

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:14 PM

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shut edge Someday I may attempt to comission someone to make a spells system based on the ...

I'm not familiar with that game I think

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 3:15 PM

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I think it would work well for stardew

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Maybe not multiplayer tho

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 3:15 PM

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obtuse finch "Format": "1.30.0" Is it correct?

You shouldn't be using an old Format when you can help it, but also, is it at the start of your content.json file, before the Changes line?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:15 PM

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shut edge Maybe not multiplayer tho

Could be useful for inspiration though, maybe I should look it up

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Yeah go for it

obtuse finch Nov 1, 2025, 3:16 PM

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latent mauve You shouldn't be using an old Format when you can help it, but also, is it at th...

No, I did attempt that, it shown another problem

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Make it a framework plz 8U

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Another problem I'm not entirely sure how to solve without invasive changes is the casting system. Like, specifically, without taking up hotbar space from being items, but without tons of new buttons (because gamepads)

obtuse finch Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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woeful lintel try the json formatter, the link is in the box above

which box? I'm having trouble finding it

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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next plaza Another problem I'm not entirely sure how to solve without invasive changes is t...

cast spells by moving the player in funny patterns

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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ocean sail

@obtuse finch this

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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Yeah that's why I was thinking ring system, press a button to bring up a menu and it's already controller designed

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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The ctrl+number method is... not great to use on gamepads, especially if you have other mods that also add new keybinds

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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woeful lintel cast spells by moving the player in funny patterns

bee language style

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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in terms of automation overhaul, Little rocket lab is a pretty good model to copy as its very much already a simplified factorio, though getting a belt style automation system working in stardews economy is hard as stardew is balanced around machines taking ingame hours, not seconds/minutes

shut edge Nov 1, 2025, 3:17 PM

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Left and right to select within the current ring, up and down to change rings

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:18 PM

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shut edge Yeah that's why I was thinking ring system, press a button to bring up a menu an...

I think MCN did something similar actually

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 3:18 PM

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autumn tide alr here are the files, note that the image should be in a folder called 'Assets...

Just so i don't put something the wrong place, which emotion is each picture?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:18 PM

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Wonder if we have a gif in the abandoned abyss of the mod development channels on that server

woeful lintel Nov 1, 2025, 3:18 PM

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worthy ermine Just so i don't put something the wrong place, which emotion is each picture?

It's the same for all npcs iIrc, there might be a wiki page on this

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:20 PM

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worthy ermine Just so i don't put something the wrong place, which emotion is each picture?

i have extra emotions lol, here they are!
Neutral $0
Happy $1
Sad $2
SHINY! $3
Love $4
Angry $5
Angry-sad-dejected-hurt-idk $6
Angry (shaking) $7
Tired $8
Pissy $9

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:20 PM

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MCN had a bunch of cool stuff I coded that I'd like to revisit

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Here's the casting part, anyways https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/674438886067535872/929904859925332008/StardewModdingAPI_F6bivARWuf.mp4?ex=69075823&is=690606a3&hm=277abde7ed7ad9640355e1ba60297cbe0dd7a13dae0ec33679f1950027446a5d&

▶ Play video

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:20 PM

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worthy ermine Just so i don't put something the wrong place, which emotion is each picture?

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Portrait_commands

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 3:20 PM

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lucid mulch <https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Portrait_commands>

Ty

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:21 PM

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andd my template :) @worthy ermine

lucid mulch Nov 1, 2025, 3:21 PM

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oh yeah, the other way you could approach a magic mod is going more Magicka style and doing keybind combos

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 3:21 PM

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autumn tide i have extra emotions lol, here they are! Neutral $0 Happy $1 Sad $2 SHINY! $3 ...

Omg is the SHINY for the movie theatre?! That's so smart!

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:21 PM

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oooh it isn't but now it will be!!!!

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:22 PM

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worthy ermine Omg is the SHINY for the movie theatre?! That's so smart!

ty for the idea SDVpufferheart

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:23 PM

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next plaza Here's the casting part, anyways https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/67443888...

More of the stuff I made for that:

"Magic status menu" (elemental resistances, various story key items, a familiar (Penny was a placeholder graphics) and custom wand system, whatever that scrolling textbox system would've been)
Recipe list for the custom crafting station
Crafting page for the custom crafting station (the crafting mechanics being inspired by Rune Factory)
The spell selection menu (as shown in that video)
Element resistances attached to existing items

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:24 PM

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next plaza More of the stuff I made for that: * "Magic status menu" (elemental resistances,...

holy shit that's impressive!!

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:24 PM

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MCN had big plans

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:25 PM

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next plaza Hmm, interesting. Some aspects of this I was thinking a little differently for m...

would love to hear about your void magic ideas btw!

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 3:27 PM

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How do you find Stardew's current Format?

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:28 PM

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Well, the main thing I was thinking was that life and healing type stuff would go with nature magic.

But then I got to thinking... why do they need to be entirely separate? It seems reasonable that all magic pulls from the same source, but different types are just a particular mode of expressing it. So some overlap should not only be fine, but be kinda expected to some extent.

So shadow magic could still have some life/healing related stuff (perhaps in a more negative direction, but be considered taboo even by shadow people?), but maybe would focus more on shadows in a literal sense (ie. light and darkness, leading to illusions, etc.)

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:29 PM

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summer spoke How do you find Stardew's current Format?

it's 2.8.0 :)

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 3:29 PM

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thank you

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:31 PM

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next plaza Well, the main thing I was thinking was that life and healing type stuff would g...

oooh interesting! I'm having healing actally be considered good by shadowfolk, BUT only if they're healing other shadowfolk

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so when Krobus heals the player in my mod it would be considered treasonous

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:31 PM

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next plaza More of the stuff I made for that: * "Magic status menu" (elemental resistances,...

(Other things that were done but not really have screenshots included stuff like being able to apply debuffs to monsters, custom buff types (which didn't exist as a data model back then!), and also some frameworky stuff that wouldn't be part of MCN but be dependencies we made that others could use (such as custom wild trees, which didn't exist then - someone else was working on this one))

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:32 PM

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autumn tide so when Krobus heals the player in my mod it would be considered treasonous

Hmm, maybe it could be that the shadow magic method of healing hurts normal people, and normal healing magic is the opposite for them, so when krobus heals the player it's considered a corruption of their magic

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:33 PM

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obtuse finch Hello, I hope this is the right channel to talk about this, do tell me if otherw...

oh btw, what sort of mod are you making? would love to check it out when you're done (if you're planning on publishing it ofc!)

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:33 PM

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next plaza Hmm, maybe it could be that the shadow magic method of healing hurts normal peop...

YES that's awesome :)

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might steal that for my mod-

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:34 PM

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how dare (/s)

obtuse finch Nov 1, 2025, 3:34 PM

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autumn tide oh btw, what sort of mod are you making? would love to check it out when you're ...

I'm learning to add a custom NPC

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:34 PM

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next plaza how dare (/s)

SDVkrobusnaughty

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:34 PM

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obtuse finch I'm learning to add a custom NPC

ooh that's so cool! good luck :)

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 3:38 PM

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autumn tide ty for the idea <:SDVpufferheart:544718683486814228>

I'm gonna steal it SDVkrobusgiggle

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:38 PM

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worthy ermine I'm gonna steal it <:SDVkrobusgiggle:898395746875875379>

NOT IF I DO FIRSTTT

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 3:40 PM

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If I'm making a new character, should I put their file in my main Mod Folder, or should I put it in the Content Folder?

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:40 PM

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summer spoke If I'm making a new character, should I put their file in my main Mod Folder, or...

mod folder!

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 3:40 PM

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Thank you

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:43 PM

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...I might've just thought of some new heinous code crimes that would allow using custom Effects for specific objects and such while still using layer depth like stardew does normally

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:43 PM

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next plaza ...I might've just thought of some new heinous code crimes that would allow usin...

i have no idea what that is but i do love crime soooo

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 3:43 PM

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It might cause compat issues with some things - mainly stuff like SpriteMaster (and/or its successor, if that's still a thing?)

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 3:49 PM

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What's an UpdateKeys

fossil osprey Nov 1, 2025, 3:49 PM

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It's the ID of the mod on nexus (the numbers at the end of your URL)

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 3:50 PM

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I'm using Steam to run the game, can I have it on both?

fossil osprey Nov 1, 2025, 3:53 PM

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Nexus is where you find and upload mods, that has nothing to do with the platform you play on

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 3:54 PM

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Right. Thank you

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 3:56 PM

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summer spoke How do you find Stardew's current Format?

Just wanted to clarify on this, because I know you were given the current number but now how to determine it on your own in the future: For a mod that uses Content Patcher as the framework (a CP mod), the Format is typically the latest major version of Content Patcher released when your mod is created / the version your mod is intended to work with.

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It can be 2.8.1 if that exists but it's more often something like 2.8.0 and ignoring the last decimal's number

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 3:59 PM

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hellooo how can one negate when things? wanna have a dynamic token display differently whether or not an event has been seen

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 3:59 PM

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There's an explanation of versioning somewhere that explains why the last number can be left as 0 but it basically boils down to anything after the second decimal point is typically not a feature addition or breaking change to a mod that would require bumping the number up

next plaza Nov 1, 2025, 4:00 PM

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autumn tide hellooo how can one negate `when` things? wanna have a dynamic token display dif...

When: "A": "B" -> When: "A |contains=B": "false"
(I think)

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 4:01 PM

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The latest major version of Content Patcher, right. How do I find the ID? On the wiki I'm looking at making a custom NPC, it's suggesting that I start with a manifest.

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 4:01 PM

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There's a page that helps to get started with CP mods that explains the manifest, one moment while I find it

summer spoke Nov 1, 2025, 4:02 PM

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Thank you

latent mauve Nov 1, 2025, 4:02 PM

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https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Manifest

Stardew Valley Wiki

Manifest

Creating SMAPI mods

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 4:06 PM

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autumn tide NOT IF I DO FIRSTTT

I stole it!

autumn tide Nov 1, 2025, 4:08 PM

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worthy ermine I stole it!

HOW COULD YOU /j

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..i might steal the rainbow effect back SDVkrobusnaughty

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MWAHAHAHAHAHAAA

worthy ermine Nov 1, 2025, 4:08 PM

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NOOOOOOOOOOO SDVpufferwaaah

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