making-mods-general

[autumn tide]

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ffs

[left nova]

You can load anywhere you like, but just load into Characters should be good enough.

[autumn tide]

sweet, thanks for your help :)

[left nova]

For further questions, you can check this page out.

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Final_Boss_of_Events#TemporaryAnimatedSprite_and_your_larger-than-life_NPCs

[autumn tide]

ty

[patent lance]

@next plaza: actually consider this (8h ago)

[autumn tide]

heh coding time

[shut edge]

we figured out the glows btw. i had a space where i shouldn't. classic.

[wet elm]

Hey so I have an s24 Galaxy and I've downloaded SMAPI Launcher, but my phone won't let me access any files through the app

I've tried to manually give the app permission, but there isn't even the option to do so

Here

[crude plank]

!androidsmapi

[ocean sail]

Android SMAPI

We are not able to provide support if you run into trouble or compatibility issues with Android SMAPI; please use the discord linked on the Android SMAPI github.

IMPORTANT: This is a highly experimental build and may be prone to glitches, bugs, or incompatibilities. Please see the wiki instructions for more information regarding installing the unofficial Android port of SMAPI for Stardew Valley 1.6.

Do not harass mod authors to make Android specific compatibility patches.

To use this command, type !androidsmapi.

[wet elm]

Thank you!

[autumn tide]

hellooo is there a way to disable footstep noises for a character during an event?

[urban patrol]

i wasn't aware they even played by default lol. i assume you don't want music or ambient sound playing that could cover it up?

[autumn tide]

oh i have, but you can still hear them 🫠

it might be a charatcer-specific thing? krobus by default has footstep sounds

hmm lemme chekc character data

[royal stump]

if nothing else, there shouldn't be footstep sounds if anyone walks on tiles without a valid Type property
(or maps with mine anywhere in the internal name)

[autumn tide]

nope not in character data

[autumn tide]

...I'm too lazy for that haha, good to know tho!

[royal stump]

yeah, a full map swap might be a bit much, and I'm mostly just familiar with how it works for farmers

[urban patrol]

idk if this would work, but you could maybe find the audio cue for krobus' footsteps, and then conditionally replace that with a silent audio file?

[autumn tide]

HMMM

idk if it's just krobus tho-

[royal stump]

I don't see any obvious krobus-related sound code or assets, and last I checked, all audio changes are permanent until game reload

[autumn tide]

it might be everyone, i'm just making events with them specifically so i notice theirs

[autumn tide]

aw :(

[urban patrol]

darn

[autumn tide]

great idea tho!!

does anyone have examples of an event with switchEvent I might use for reference?

[royal stump]

just skimming vanilla, it's used in ElliottHouse, Forest, and SebastianRoom

[autumn tide]

ty

oooh okay i found something out, gonna add to the wiki

[elfin kindle]

Could a temporary sprite or animation help? Might be too much work for the value but its a loose idea ^^

[autumn tide]

uhhh what for? /gen

[royal stump]

using a krobus lookalike sprite would presumably skip any footstep sounds
(though idk how much work is involved in those & it probably varies by script)

[autumn tide]

huhhhh interesting

..maybe later haha, I'll screenshot this and put in my mod doc for future reference

[elfin kindle]

Yeah exactly! The issue is mostly moving the temp while timing the animation to look like normal walking ^^"

[gentle rose]

your capitalisation is inconsistent which could be causing issues

you have Arctic Summer Fox in some places but Arctic Summer fox in others

[grizzled crescent]

Thank you! I will see if that's the problem

[livid kite]

@uncut viper Sorry for the ping, but I'm trying to use CMCT for my mod, but I'm a bit confused. I can only have my config section set as true or false for it to be able to work? I can't have multiple options?

[whole raptor]

Hm? You can read whatever config options you want with CMCT

[vernal crest]

The mod page says nothing about needing the config to be a Boolean

[whole raptor]

What do you want to do with it?

[grizzled crescent]

Thank you ♥♥ That fixed it

[livid kite]

I'm trying to make an article on how to use my saloon mod for other mod authors so they can have their NPC in the new area of the saloon.

I've been at this for the last few days

Might just make three separate mods if I can't figure it out

[devout otter]

{{Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: RaffieJohn.ExtraSpaceSaloon, Saloon Basement Size}} Presumably this should work.

(Though I'm not sure about the config token having space in it.)

[whole raptor]

Spaces are fine

In short you can use Query to check what the config says, I'm not sure if it's exactly how you were suppose to use it, but it works for me 😅
"Query: '{{Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: Parrot.RomRas, Portrait Mode}}' = '12'": true

[spice anchor]

Will the bouncer respond after I've gotten the mod author role?

[livid kite]

Oh? So does "12" mean portrait frame 12?

[whole raptor]

Nope, it's just the option in the config

[uncut viper]

(you can just do this:)

"When": {
  "Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: Parrot.RomRas, Portrait Mode": "12"
}

[devout otter]

You don't need to do query even. This would also work "Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: RaffieJohn.ExtraSpaceSaloon, Saloon Basement Size": "Large",

[whole raptor]

Oh, makes more sense 😅 No clue why I did it like that tbh

[livid kite]

I'll add this to my article!

Just to make sure I also set this up as a DT for it to work or just having a when condition should be fine?

[uncut viper]

you dont need a dynamic token

also you dont need to set up anything in your mod at all, its only the other mod that needs to do anything to use CMCT

[livid kite]

I know, I'm just trying to make an article on how to use my mod, since that has been the main topic in my comment section.

[uncut viper]

just making sure

[livid kite]

Thank you everyone for the help!

[narrow owl]

is there a guide for how to make custom maps?

[tender bloom]

!mapmaking

[ocean sail]

If you want to make mods that add or edit maps:

1. Use Tiled to edit .tmx or .tbin files.

2. Refer to the Maps wiki page for details on how maps work in Stardew Valley.

3. Content Patcher allows you to create custom locations through editing Data/Locations

4. Vanilla Maps can be edited via Content Patcher as well: EditMap

To use this command, type !mapmaking.

[narrow owl]

ty

[quick sand]

Hello everyone. is it possible to use randomization with trigger actions?

what i want: when x trigger happens choose a random action or actions from a list of actions

[urban patrol]

possibly, but the {{Random}} token doesn't update that often (i think it's once a day?) so you may run into trouble there

[drowsy pewter]

yes, you can use the SYNCED_CHOICE gsq and If statements for actions

[urban patrol]

oh good a better answer

[drowsy pewter]

If SYNCED_CHOICE tick modid.mychoice 1 10 5 ## my 5th action

this one has 10 choices and this action is #5 on the list of choices

[quick sand]

oof... will this work in content patcher or is this c#

[drowsy pewter]

what i just told you is the trigger action action format

do you understand how to make a list of actions within one trigger action

[narrow owl]

hey wait r u the guy who made cornucopia?

[drowsy pewter]

yup

[narrow owl]

cool!

love that mod

[quick sand]

in the Actions field you list each action in quotes seperated by commas right?

[drowsy pewter]

yes

[quick sand]

but it executes them all

[drowsy pewter]

Use the format i gave you

if you're still not clear, look for SYNCED_CHOICE on the game state query wiki page and If on the trigger actions page

and if after that you're still stuck you'll have to explain which part exactly you dont understand lol

[quick sand]

SYNCED_CHOICE tick modid.mychoice 1 10 5

this is choosing a number between 1-10 then saying true if the number is 5?

[drowsy pewter]

yup

[quick sand]

where does tick come in?

[drowsy pewter]

so ideally if you have it to be 1-10, you would have 10 different choices for actions

tick is how often it updates

if it's day, then it will always be #5 on that day (if #5 is rolled)

if its tick, it will be a different number each time the trigger action is used

[quick sand]

ah ok...

so the if part is, if the synched choice is true.. it does an action?

[drowsy pewter]

yes

if is so you can check any gsq before doing an action

[quick sand]

im confused on the list of actions part

the synched choice is an integer

relating to the position in the list

[drowsy pewter]

it doesnt relate to any position, you choose the number that goes there

if your 20th action in the list is written to be synced choice #1, it will be synced choice #1

and please spell it synced when you write your code

[uncut viper]

"Actions": [
  "If SYNCED_CHOICE tick modid.mychoice 1 10 1 ## action 1 goes here",
  "If SYNCED_CHOICE tick modid.mychoice 1 10 2 ## action 2 goes here",
  "If SYNCED_CHOICE tick modid.mychoice 1 10 3 ## action 3 goes here",
  "If SYNCED_CHOICE tick modid.mychoice 1 10 4 ## action 4 goes here",
  "If SYNCED_CHOICE tick modid.mychoice 1 10 5 ## action 5 goes here",
  ...
]

because these all update on the tick, they will all choose the same random number between 1 and 10. so if they all choose 5, only the last action in this list will be true and will execute

[quick sand]

OOOOOOHHHHHH

how would it look if i wanted it to do 3 of the actions on the list?

1 10 1+3+5?

no sorry. 1 10 1 3 5

[uncut viper]

dont know if you can make it choose multiple at random

[narrow owl]

how would I make more fish that you can catch?

[hard fern]

[[Modding:Fish]]

fuck

[narrow owl]

huh

lol

[narrow owl]

stardew wik?

[hard fern]

[[Modding:Fish_data]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Fish_data

[hard fern]

there we go

[narrow owl]

thank you

[narrow owl]

can you do it with content patcher?

or json assets

[quick sand]

thanks for your help!

[quick sand]

and thank you too!

[hard fern]

Can do it with both. Content patcher is probably better though even though Jason assets had an update

[drowsy pewter]

You can make it do two more trigger actions (like whole trigger actions), but the 3 different actions may randomly choose the same outcome

[narrow owl]

k, is there a thing on cp github that explains?

[ocean sail]

@narrow owl You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[narrow owl]

W

[hard fern]

It's probably in the content patcher documentation itself

[urban patrol]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_a_New_Fish

[hard fern]

And yeah on GitHub

Or that

[narrow owl]

ty

that one is a bit more digestable then the modding:fish data

but ty both of u

[hard fern]

I feel like i always get confused by the modding wiki tutorials

[urban patrol]

you should probably use both in conjunction with each other, since the official wiki explains things in more depth!

[narrow owl]

k yeah, im new to modding so just tryna find my way around

[urban patrol]

although i agree the official wiki page for fish specifically makes my head spin a bit

[tiny zealot]

that's just because fish data is a bit fucky i think

[hard fern]

~~ill admit i had trouble making fish and i actually just ended up using sve as a reference... ~~

[urban patrol]

yeah

[hard fern]

Fish data is cursed

[narrow owl]

i was abt to use this: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3578?tab=posts looks confusing af

[hard fern]

Ah yeah that one might be too big

Also wth is discord doing to me

[urban patrol]

you're haunted

[narrow owl]

lol

[dusky sail]

Fish is easy its just a lot of steps. You gotta do the object, the fish, the locations data, the aquarium, and the fish pond

Each of these steps is simple theres just like 5 of them

[gaunt orbit]

Hmmm are there any framework mods to disable specific wallpapers from showing up in the main wallpaper catalogue

IIRC it's hardcoded for the vanilla ones

[brave fable]

not that i know of, but if you check the Data/Shops:Catalogue entry you'll notice ItemId is filtered to items marked isRandomSale with a PerItemCondition that excludes a number of specific IDs

i'm not sure if you can set the randomsale flag on WP items, but you could maybe textoperations your way into the condition and pray there's no conflicts. hardly ideal

[calm nebula]

How does the wizard special wallpaper worj

In before there isnt a wizard special wallpaper

[gaunt orbit]

Oh hm, that makes sense. Why did I think it was c#'d

[brave fable]

i believe they're excluded in the PerItemCondition on Catalogue, and then added to WizardFurnitureCatalogue:Items

it likely was c# before the Data/Shops model was introduced. you're just old is all

[gaunt orbit]

The reason I asked is because I've been looking into possibly moving away from the vanilla GetShopStock method since it's not incremental

[gaunt orbit]

The rare catalogues were added in 1.6 as well, so there wouldn't be a need to remove walls from the catalogue prior to shop data

[gaunt orbit]

Right now this is a huge bottleneck since it intantiates literally thousands of items all at once on heavily modded games, and I don't think I can offthread it because I'm 90% sure that would explode

[calm nebula]

Just when my ankle healed I pull my shoulder out of the socket

I am old

[brave fable]

this exercise thing seems very bad for your health

[calm nebula]

I'd like to be not injured

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6702 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1431126164830818439)

[calm nebula]

Bluebs what would you suggest i do instead

Note that I get very depressed if I dont exercise

[brave fable]

depends. how many ankles do you have left

[calm nebula]

That healed.

Two

[brave fable]

do fitness() while (ankles > 0.5f)

[calm nebula]

Do fitness until I have less than 0.5 ankle.

[brave fable]

well if you wanted the pseudocode then yeah

[royal stump]

switch to core exercises until you hurt your back

(if that's the right term, I just jog)

[uncut viper]

i think atra needs the pseudoephedrine not the pseudocode

[calm nebula]

Tylenol would be great

[hidden locust]

hi guys, is there anyway to spawn a torch item with light on?

[inner harbor]

Hmmm, how do I add text to a shop without a portrait?

[gaunt orbit]

From c#?

I guess what I'm asking is what do you mean by "spawn" here? What is the context

[hidden locust]

I wanted to spawn a candle item in a map I made.

can I do that without c#?

with lights on

[gaunt orbit]

Are you trying to create it as forage? Or a permanent map fixture? Or just place a torch when a save is created?

[hidden locust]

I used FTM to spawn it as forage

[gaunt orbit]

Do you have it correctly tagged as a torch item?

IE does the item give off light when you place it down yourself

[hidden locust]

it does

Esca said it's not possible right now with FTM

[gaunt orbit]

Then that sounds like a big with how FTM handles spawning. You should report it.

Do you need FTM? Is there a reason you can't use location data forage rules?

Those should handle it correctly I think

[hidden locust]

I was using it for monsters, maybe I will just try location data

sorry

[gaunt orbit]

It's okay! Questions are why this channel is here!

Gotta learn somehow, and it's not like there's a bootcamp for stardew modding

[hidden locust]

thank you so much for helping me

[gaunt orbit]

If location forage rules don't correctly do torch spawns, you will need c# to handle it. (Though please let me know either way w/ ping)

[ivory plume]

Setting the portrait to a blank string (not null) will disable the portrait:

"Portrait": ""

[inner harbor]

I did that but it didn't seem to work. Maybe I'm missing other information I need to add in

                        {
                            "Portrait": "",
                            "Dialogues": [
                                {
                                    "Id": "Lemurkat.EastScarp.Fundraising",
                                    "Dialogue": "{{i18n:Fundraising.dialogue}}"
                                }
                            ]
                        }
                    ],...```

[ivory plume]

You still need the Name field, it's not optional. You can set it to "AnyOrNone" if you don't need a particular NPC to be present.

[cursive wing]

For some reason my game keeps crashing using smapi on android

[gaunt orbit]

!androidsmapi

[ocean sail]

Android SMAPI

We are not able to provide support if you run into trouble or compatibility issues with Android SMAPI; please use the discord linked on the Android SMAPI github.

IMPORTANT: This is a highly experimental build and may be prone to glitches, bugs, or incompatibilities. Please see the wiki instructions for more information regarding installing the unofficial Android port of SMAPI for Stardew Valley 1.6.

Do not harass mod authors to make Android specific compatibility patches.

To use this command, type !androidsmapi.

[gaunt orbit]

Oh hm, the text changed

Basically the tldr is that android stardew has different code than desktop stardew and it makes mods explode sometimes

[cursive wing]

Ok thank you

[royal stump]

fwiw, this was reported recently; torch_items only turn into the Torch class during placementAction or some such method, which FTM doesn't use yet

I'm about 90% sure the vanilla forage system doesn't do that either, but yeah, worth checking

[gaunt orbit]

If not I'm probably going to put that on the 6.16 alpha wishlist if possible

Not using placementAction which I'm sure would have bizarre side effects, but having a carve-out for torches

[royal stump]

it could probably use better handling, there were several edge cases of varying weirdness alongside that

but yeah, refactoring the placement logic would be 1.7 territory from the sound of it, it's complicated

[gaunt orbit]

Tbh not having a reliable way to turn objects into functional versions has been annoying the hell out of me with a few of my projects. So far my approach is to call placementAction and then just try my best to do cleanup

Not great but seems to sort of work

[royal stump]

yeah, I'll need to figure out which edge cases to squish into FTM from that manually

since it sometimes places and sometimes doesn't

[gaunt orbit]

And sometimes the thing is a regular object and sometimes it's a subclass

Tbh I do not remember how I handled it in mus and I will simply prey it does not break

[hidden locust]

It worked! now I can spawn candles, thank you again

[inland rain]

Stardew RPG has been update for 1.6, it might even work as intended!
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/11132

[lean veldt]

Hello, I'm making a custom farmhouse. When I add map properties, if I use wall_2 and floor_2, should I use <index> or <tilesheet>:<index>, considering those are vanilla tilesheets? Does the index continue from walls_and_floors or start again at 0? And does the <area ID> (the one uniquely identifies the area or room) need to be loaded or the game just reads the tmx file and knows which room is which?

[oblique meadow]

So if you look at the additional walls and floors data file it creates an entry. I want to say it’s “morewalls” but I’m not looking at it.

If you’re setting the default wallpaper to something on that tile sheet it would be Morewalls:<index> and yes it starts over at 0 on the new sheet

[lean veldt]

Thank you very much

[oblique meadow]

Good luck with your farmhouse. Farmhouse is haunted.

[dusky sail]

Uh yeah? Where else do you expect grandpa to stay (silly)

[finite viper]

Hey everyone, I need your advice. I'm making a mod that needs to add a button to each save slot in LoadGameMenu. Is patching LoadGameMenu with Harmony the best option, or are there other options?

[uncut viper]

if you're able to feasibly do so you can also just draw your own buttons on the screen overtop the menu using SMAPI's render events

but it's probably not too bad to just postfix the menu's draw and click/hover functions

[finite viper]

mhm, i see

ok thanks

[proud wyvern]

what are you adding there btw?

[proud wyvern]

(asking because: 1. i've already done something like that in my Kokoro mod, not that i maintain it anymore, and 2. at this point you don't have any save data loaded, so if you want to display any cool data, you have to store it yourself, separately from the actual save files)

i guess i'll just ping, since it was a while ago: @finite viper

[lucid mulch]

To be specific the only data available is hosts Game1.player instance

[finite viper]

In detail, the button will compare the client's loaded mods with the data from the save (json-file in save directory)

[proud wyvern]

so exactly what Kokoro does

[finite viper]

I'm not sure if a similar mod exists, but I'm making my own.(Oh, ok)
My laptop's hard drive died and I lost my mod collection.

[proud wyvern]

that sucks :/

the hard drive dying part i mean

[spice anchor]

What do I do if I don't get a response?

[fossil osprey]

A response for...?

[gentle rose]

being made a mod author I think

did you DM bouncer?

[shut edge]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a22340665f9e4067b83c3f90d604ac30

[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "SNES Dogs of The SNES > AHM Include > Data/AHMdata.json > EditData Data/Machines > entry #1" to Data/Machines: failed converting entry to the expected type 'StardewValley.GameData.Machines.MachineData': Error converting value {null} to type 'System.Single'. Path 'WorkingEffectChance'..

what am i missing here

probably a comma or somethin

oh i guess effect chance has to actually be numbers oops

[shut edge]

ah good altered a pixel offset then reverted it and now my game hangs at black, rad

[next plaza]

Hmm, I just thought of a further feature that people might find interesting (though unsure if it would be usable for CP mods).

What if you could also opt in certain options so that a copy is synced for everyone?

First example that comes to find: for the mod that lets you set your own pronouns, mods could then fetch the pronouns of any connected player who also has the mod

[gentle rose]

or a "dibs on spouse" mod that uses GMCM to let players select an NPC and then shows who selected which NPC(s) to other players

[next plaza]

That becomes really easy with the "NPC picker" widget I have planned.

You know, part of me thinks that both of these should be a SMAPI thing, but I'm not sure @ivory plume is even interested in having networked synced configs / per player configs (ones accessible by everyone connected) in base SMAPI. It would work much better if it was base SMAPI though (since it could properly handle stuff like not saving per-player values to config.json when you are a farmhand)

Like for the per farmer configs, the default values for a new save could copy the values from the global config or something.

(Although I guess it could be handled from a mod via some harmony patching SMAPI...)

For that matter I also wish all the config files were in a separate folder and not part of their parent mod folder

[ornate drift]

{
"Format": "2.4.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "Characters/Haley",
"FromFile": "assets/Haley.png"
},
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "Portraits/Haley_Port",
"FromFile": "assets/Haley_Port.png"
},
{
]
}

uhhhh i think i fucked up my json

{
"Format": "2.4.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "Characters/Haley",
"FromFile": "assets/Haley.png"
},
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "Portraits/Haley_Port",
"FromFile": "assets/Haley_Port.png"
}
]
}

does this work?

oh wait

so basically i just need to change it to 2.8.0

[lucid mulch]

there isn't a vanilla pattern of _Port afaik
but the sprite edit would work fine assuming there isn't an appearance entry being applied instead

[ornate drift]

oh yeah i should change that actually

[indigo yoke]

I agree

[autumn tide]

helloo is there a way to get spouses/roommates to NOT murder any monsters in the farmhouse? i changed krobus's Spouse_MonstersInHouse dialog but i think they would still kill the monsters-

[autumn tide]

okay more questions- i wanna change the way void ghost pendants can be obtained, how can i make sure I'm editing only the field related to the void pendant trade in Data/Shops? here's what I have:
after entries is the copy-pasted data for that specific trade from Data/Shops

[royal stump]

looks hardcoded, and I haven't personally seen any mention of it in frameworks

[autumn tide]

aw alr, thanks for the info

[royal stump]

(also I guess it uses Strings\\Locations:FarmHouse_SpouseAttacked if monsters run into them, if you wanted to edit that too )

[autumn tide]

HMMM i'll look at that ty

[royal stump]

but yeah, the damage and relationship change aren't really contingent on anything

[royal stump]

I think that's correct if you use the "Id" for the ghost pendant entry, e.g. here
(not a CP expert though)

"TargetField": [
  "DesertTrade",
  "Items"
],
"Entries": {
  "(O)808": null /* or {settings} if you just want to replace it */
}```

[autumn tide]

oh- and uh here's the entry for that trade

[royal stump]

769 is Void Essence rather than the pendant, afaict

...oh, nvm, misread that

if you want to change that specific part, you'd target the 808 ID and then use Fields instead of Entries, I think

[autumn tide]

dw haha, i believe that area refers to the currency trade thing

hmm okay

[royal stump]

yeah, CP generally looks for just "Id" when targeting stuff in lists

"TargetField": [
  "DesertTrade",
  "Items"
],
"Fields": {
  "(O)808": {
    "TradeItemId": "(O)Something_Else"
}
}```

[autumn tide]

Gotcha, the issue is most of these trade things are just identical

[autumn tide]

gotcha, tysm!

[quick sand]

hi peoples. where can i find drop tables for chests, mystery boxes, etc? i really would like to just copy and paste it into my CP mod instead of building it from scratch

[calm nebula]

Chests?

[quick sand]

like the volcano chests

or fishing chests

[calm nebula]

Hardcoded. Both of those

Fishing chests are fun

[quick sand]

dang

[marble needle]

Hey I'm developing an stardew mod that ports all of the pokemons available from PMD sprite repository as farmers in stardew, it's practically finished

but I have one issue

Fashion sense doesn't like too much having 5000 bodies in their folder

10 gb vram

somebody know if there is a way to tell fashion sense to not load all sprites at the start and load them when they are used?

(if not possible I can still cut the pokemon sprites by almost an half, as there many alt versions)

[woeful lintel]

maybe make alt versions into CP patches with config so that only one is loaded at a time?

[fossil osprey]

That, or make several fashion sense pack
Like, by pokemon types for examples?

[autumn tide]

hey! even more questions lol, how should I format the TargetField for adding special movie reactions for specific NPCs? this is what I have alongside the OG data

ik I'm doing it wrong but idk how to fix that

[uneven spindle]

Hi! I was reading this bit of the SV wiki but I don't understand everything it explains:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries#Queries_versus_Content_Patcher_conditions

... the resulting changes are written once to the asset. Then there's no performance impact after the asset edit, since it's just plain unconditional data. However the asset is reloaded when patches are added/removed, which may impact performance if they change often in some cases.

[autumn tide]

afaik it effectively means that CP When conditions don't lag the game as much as game state queries

here's the CP guide: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#global-tokens

[royal stump]

generally yes; game state queries aren't ever really cached (saved for quicker re-checks) after you use them, so they tend to be slower if they need to be looked at regularly

that said, whenever a CP patch needs to change something, the entire file & any patches on it need to be reloaded
so for example, if you're editing Data/Objects with TimeChanged update rates or something, it might take a while to re-apply everyone's patches

[autumn tide]

the guide's thing on When conditions:

[uneven spindle]

what does regularly mean in this context? in the next paragraph it is stated that

On the other hand, game state queries are faster in cases where the conditions are checked rarely and doing so avoids reloading textures or maps (like Appearance in Data/Characters

afaik appearances are evaluated when the npc changes location

[royal stump]

regularly as in frequently, e.g. trigger actions might check GSQs when time changes or players warp, etc

it really depends on context

[uneven spindle]

thanks! i'll take a look

[lethal raptor]

Hey yall i got a noob question. I was playing with nature in the valley a lot and its one of my fav mods. I was wondering if there was some way to 'net' a creature spawned by custom companions or a vanilla bird/butterfly

Like player uses net on a creature added by cc or a vanilla butterfly
Then it 'despawns' and nature in the valley is invoked to act as if a creature is captured. Like i could create an entry for a creature collected and all the details required for donating/making terrariums, but the actual spawning isnt done by nitv and action isnt taken on a creature added by nitv

Sorry if I am misunderstanding everything, I know all 3 of these types of creatures spawned are not the same (I think cc spawns them as villagers and nitv has its own thing too) but if theres even a hacky way to do this id love some insight i cant stop thinking about this haha

Like itd be fun if i could use net on vanilla butterflies
Or even something like using net on some birds spawned by vanilla or CC or bird guild and acquiring feathers (not full bird)!

[royal stump]

for the most part, if the game has a "Condition" field somewhere, you can use that without worrying too much
modded trigger actions and such tend to be where GSQs get complicated

[uneven spindle]

i saw some complaints about performance in the mod that i'm patching up so i really wanted to get this right

[autumn tide]

ooh what mod is it? if you don't mind me asking

[uneven spindle]

np! its the Seasonal Outfits - Slightly Cuter Aesthetic

after fixing some bugs i decided to tackle the performance issue

[autumn tide]

huh, i didn't know it wasn't up to date, nice you're patching it tho!

just wanted to check you got the OG modder's consent?

[uneven spindle]

to put an example: for winter indoor and outdoor outfits, it would be better to use an extra appearance with the Outdoors: true that overrides the vanilla NPC_Winter outfit when it goes outside than constantly changing the NPC_Winter outfit since that would edit the asset constantly

[royal stump]

afaik, CP specifically handles that asset by treating "NPCName" as the entry key, so maybe like this?

"TargetField": [
"Krobus",
"Reactions"
],
"Entries": {
  "spring_movie_1": {
    /* your new(?) entry stuff */
  }
}```

[autumn tide]

alr! tysm for all your help

[tiny zealot]

doesn't it already use Appearance? are you accidentally using the "improved performance" version that makes it not do that?

[uneven spindle]

i believe it does that already yes, just trying to understand why is it done that way and not the other

[uneven spindle]

i'm not sure i will publish it, it started as a way to get into modding with content patcher

i'll definetly ask the owner if i ever decide to release tho

[royal stump]

using appearance is probably better, in that reloading images is probably slower than checking appearance conditions, but tbh this gets into "you should find a way to test this" territory
(which can be difficult without a slow PC or C# timers)

there's enough optimization stuff in CP that it's hard to guess what'll slow down

[devout otter]

Personally, I definitely got less performance issues after SCA switched to Appearance system.

[uneven spindle]

i found a profiler mod that measures the times taken for each patch but tbh i don't know how to use it or how should i properly test this other than loading a save a performing the same actions with/without code changes

[royal stump]

yeah, I'm not familiar with setting that up for CP-related checks, though SinZ might be able to help in the thread for it?
#1359454014319755294

[uneven spindle]

i have heard both sides of the arguments, some say it works better and others complain about it loading too many assets

not sure what to listen to xd

[royal stump]

there can be issues due to limited memory vs CPU load, etc, and people's mod sets can be wildly different

[autumn tide]

alr i got more questions haha, if I wanna add multiple entries under this, how should I separate them? Should I just make more actions thingies? reference for how they originally look

[royal stump]

well if you're using the setup I posted earlier, you wouldn't want a Reactions list; it'd be something like this

"TargetField": [
"Krobus",
"Reactions"
],
"Entries": {
  "reaction_0": {
    "Tag": "fall_movie_0",
     //etc 
  },
  "reaction_1": {
    "Tag": "*",
     //etc 
  },
}```

the target field stuff zooms in on Krobus's reactions list, so each entry is inside that

[uneven spindle]

i just noticed Sinz is the author of the profiler mod i used

i'll check out the thread, thank you!

[autumn tide]

OHHH alr ty

still a bit confused but I'll check here later when i need to haha

[royal stump]

PS in case anyone else is interested in decorating with light sources, FTM v1.26 is out

• adds an "is on" setting for BC/furniture with lights or other toggles
• fixes torches and other torch_item things spawning with broken animations/lights

[autumn tide]

would I be able to add custom reactions here?

[royal stump]

I'm not really familiar with the asset, but you can add new entries or replace existing ones with that same method, yeah

using an existing ID will overwrite them, and including new ones will add them

[autumn tide]

gotcha! should work pretty similarly to default then

[static seal]

I'd like to create a custom NPC where becoming partners requires a another different item instead of bouquet, and proposing requires a different item instead of the Mermaid's Pendant. Additionally, I need to know how to remove this character's wedding event.
If this isn't possible, could someone can guide me on how to make a "roommate" NPC like Krobus as an alternative?

[royal stump]

lists are a bit weird in CP, but that mostly means they have special rules for choosing their order; add/remove should be similar to anything else

[marble needle]

uploads 1000 mods for each pokemon to nexus

I will upload 3 versions, one with only the pokemons no shinnys or any variation, other one with the minimum variations (base + shinny+ regional) and another one with full sprites which is the one in the video

[autumn tide]

hey! I'm very much a beginner but it does sound vaguely possible to me, ik you can interact with custom companions, maybe in the interaction script you could trigger getting an item and them like despawn the companion? again not familiar with CC or even just CP, but the idea sounds possible, really complex tho!

[marble needle]

I think that will suffice

still I have the knowledge to edit fashion sense some day, I only need time

If I can manage to make a mode that loads the assets in place, my mod can be used with all sprites without any issue in any computer

[woeful lintel]

No, you can put everything in one CP mod

[lethal raptor]

thats true ive seen the docs for cc for speaking with spawned creatures, maybe i can use that as a trigger for some things

[autumn tide]

it sounds possible! there are specific tags that the void ghost pendant has that allows it to roommate krobus, but as a shortcut BETAS has a relationship change trigger action that you might be able to set up to run when the item is gifted!

[lethal raptor]

wonder if there exists a trigger along the lines of 'use net/tool on villager'

[autumn tide]

i mean there's slingshot and spacecore has this:

[lethal raptor]

ah nice! i could see if that could be extended to the net

[raw compass]

Would anyone be willing to take a look at my attempts to add pond colors to some mod legendary fish and help me figure out why it's not working?
In the base mod, the fish have no context tags, so I added them (so they would filter into the vanilla LegendaryFish Pond data) but... no amount of patch reload + resetting and refilling the ponds will make the colors happen

[autumn tide]

maybe! def sounds hard tho

[static seal]

I was wondering if there might be a concrete example or template for this method? I'm finding it a bit difficult to visualize from the description alone. Thank you for your help!

[raw compass]

(the context tags change IS taking effect, because the max population of the pond drops to 1 after reset)

[autumn tide]

ofc! uhh. i have an event where i use BETAS to trigger Krobus moving in, I could send bits of the script to you, but that's an event and not an item being gifted

[brittle pasture]

I think you need MoveEntries to move your water color entries to the top and avoid the fallback entry

[autumn tide]

BUT spacecore has something to trigger an event upon an item being gifted, AND there's a way to put specific dialog when a certain item is gifted, and maybe you could put a $action in that gift dialog

[raw compass]

Oh I'll try that, thank you

[static seal]

Ok！I will check it！thanks！

[autumn tide]

is it alr if I try to write it for you? it seems simple enough

[raw compass]

Unfortunately did not work (confirmed with a patch export that the MoveEntries took effect as desired)

[tiny zealot]

not to be too glib but i am so far gone on my current "this seems simple enough" so be careful /lh

[static seal]

Yes! Thank you so much!

[autumn tide]

just checking, do you want them to be roommates or spouses?

[static seal]

spouses is best，the roommates is an alternative

[autumn tide]

do you have your files set up yet?

[autumn tide]

forgot to @ you lol

[autumn tide]

we shall see 😭

[static seal]

I have a mod currently in development. If you send me the file, I should be able to integrate it into my project for testing.

[autumn tide]

i'll just send you the code here, it's pretty small

also got no clue how to do the wedding thing

[static seal]

okay

[prisma ginkgo]

Hi so jumping back to this I have edited the file to my liking. It shows up in the store the exterior shows up how i want it to. However i cannot enter the building and it hosts a ton of errors in smapi that are all related to missing assets and my game panic. I have a folder in my assets with the tilesheets png but it seems to want the tsx files that i used in tiled .How do i go about fixing this. I did embed the tilesets in tiled and i thought that would fix it.

[autumn tide]

alr here it iss, make sure to delete all of these guys < >, those are just there to indicate where to put your stuffs!:

    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Characters/Dialogue/<custom npc id>",
      "When": {
<criteria to accept dating>
      },
      "Entries": {
        "AcceptGift_(O)<custom dating item id>": "<acceptance dialog>#$action Spiderbuttons.BETAS_ChangeRelationship <custom npc id> Dating"
      }
    },
    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Characters/Dialogue/<custom npc id>",
      "When": {
<criteria to accept marriage>
      },
      "Entries": {
        "AcceptGift_(O)<custom proposal item id>": "<acceptance dialog>#$action Spiderbuttons.BETAS_ChangeRelationship <custom npc id> Engaged false 3"
      }
    },

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#global-tokens just search for 'when' on here to find out how to do the criteria :)

also if i got this wrong someone pls tell me

[static seal]

okay！thank you so much!

[autumn tide]

ofc! glad I could help out

[raw compass]

Turns out testing pond colors is hard because you have to sleep for them to take effect

[wary owl]

@wicked meadow why can I not talk

???

[brittle pasture]

!howtovc

[ocean sail]

Hello! If you are a new member to this server, please read this informative message about how to be able to speak or stream in voice channels!

• In order to speak/unmute/stream, you must be level 5!
• In order to reach level 5, you must chat in any text-channels! Each time you talk/chat you will gain exp.
• When you reach level 5, you will receive a message that you have obtained the Cowpoke role!

To check your current level, head on over to #governors-mansion and type the command: /lvl. This will display your current level and your exp bar. Thank you for reading!

To use this command, type !howtovc.

[static seal]

Sorry I was dumb, what I should fill in for the <criteria to accept dating> and <criteria to accept marriage> fields?

[autumn tide]

No worries! I mentioned it below the code lol

[brittle pasture]

post your code again?
also just in case can you post the patch export as well

[autumn tide]

OH or do you mean like gameplay-wise?

Cause in bg it’s 8 hearts for dating, 10 hearts and house upgrade for marriage

[raw compass]

Ah thank you, but it turns out it was working -- just wouldn't change until after a sleep.

[static seal]

Excuse me, does this code remove the vanilla dating (via bouquet) and engagement (via Mermaid's Pendant) requirements? If not, could you please guide me on how to disable these two features?

[autumn tide]

Nope, but you might be able to use the reject gift things mentioned in the dialog page of the wiki!

I’m sure there’s some command to bring it up

Cannot find it-

Welp, go on the SDV wiki and search for dialogue, then make sure the modding topic thing is enabled under advanced

On mobile so I can’t pull it up

[static seal]

Sorry It's 2:30 AM here because of the time difference. I'll @ you in 6 or 7 hours if I can wake up. I need to get some sleep now. Catch you later!

[indigo yoke]

I know I already said I agree, but I also double agree so it's easier to update mods without having to like, move the config to a different spot. delete the mod folder. put in the new stuff. move config back in. Gets tiring after a while.

[quick sand]

hello can someone check my work here:

"ItemId": "RANDOM_ITEMS (O)",
"PerItemCondition": "ITEM_CATEGORY Target -96, !ItemID 526 523",

this should choose random items in ring category but not ones with the id 526 or 523. yes?

[brittle pasture]

that's not how you format the ITEM_ID condition

[quick sand]

just save me a severe headache

[brittle pasture]

!ITEM_ID Target 526 523 should do it

[quick sand]

ah i forgot the Target too

thanks alot

[ornate trellis]

can anyone quickly tell me what index 2 is from the haseenevent condition? I edited hatmouse for some hats and i think i did it wong since i get this and the CP git doest really say much besides "The event IDs seen by the current or specified player, matching IDs in the Data/Events files."

[game] Failed parsing condition 'PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT VoidWitchCult.CP.TheFishmongerNPC_Introduction': required index 2 (string eventId) not found (list has indexes 0 through 1).

[inner harbor]

awesome thanks! Figured it would be something like that

[hallow prism]

you likely are missing the player argument

usually player GSQ requires a host/any/current/whatever

[ornate trellis]

oh damn you right...

thats what I get for doing the shop edit a long time ago before finishing all events fgdf

[hexed grotto]

Hey guys hypothetically if one were to be making a UI Interface mod and this is her very first mod... how do i edit the main page...

[gentle rose]

have you had a look at how other UI mods do it?

[hexed grotto]

I cant really find any :[

[gentle rose]

you can't find any UI mods?

[hexed grotto]

Like i find the ui mods but i dont understand how they go in and edit it if that makes sense?

Idk im very very new

[gentle rose]

the basic answer is that changing the texture (colour, image, etc) of things is easy, changing the layout (size, positioning) would require c#

[uncut viper]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[uncut viper]

they use Content Patcher

[hexed grotto]

Thank youuu !! Sorry again !

[gentle rose]

no need to be sorry!

[uncut viper]

you will need an understanding of how Content Patcher works in order to make it, so i would start by reading that wiki tutorial for CP and also the Content Patcher documentation it links you to

emphasis on "please read the documentation too" as the wiki does not have all the information and is not supposed to

the Content Patcher documentation on github is your primary source

[hexed grotto]

Thats what i was gonna start doing! So if I'm just recoloring and like adding things (i want to make a fall/rustic interface) i dont need #c ... right?

[uncut viper]

recolouring needs no C#, no

[hexed grotto]

Thank gosh

[uncut viper]

adding elements that did not previously exist, yes

[hexed grotto]

Aw man

Word, thank you for all the info!!!

[uncut viper]

(to clarify, adding UI elements. if you meant new things like items, those are easy)

[hexed grotto]

Yeah, kinda just like adding little pumpkins and leaves .. and maybe changing the cursor but mostly focusing on recoloring

[uncut viper]

if theyre within the bounds of the existing texture you can just draw them as part of the UI texture

[hexed grotto]

Oh cool!!!

[uncut viper]

but likely wont be able to make them go beyond the edges of where the existing UI goes

and it depends on what exactly the UI piece you are editing is

[hexed grotto]

Yeah! So if they go beyone the edge, that would need #c?

[uncut viper]

if the game only draws a 20 pixel wide by 30 pixel tall section of a texture, for example, then you cannot edit anything outside that 20 x 30 texture space

to do that you would need C# to change the UI drawing code itself

[hexed grotto]

I see!!!

[dreamy cedar]

Anybody know if there's a way to get Rider to be able to debug SDV? Doesn't work at all for me, and I see I'm not the only one: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/RIDER-112901

I can debug fine with vscode, but would rather be in Rider.

^^ Forgot to say I'm in Linux

My guess is that it's to do with the steam container

[next plaza]

Yeah... C# mods don't normally come with a config.json I think (if using the modbuildconfig packaged zip), but for CP mods - or on Mac, since replacing a folder deletes everything and then pastes, instead of merging - it can be really annoying, for sure.

[quick sand]

has anyone heard of the arena mod?

[timid onyx]

Does the light path layer tile just not work in spouse rooms at all?

[shut edge]

hmm, my AHM treats are giving animals full hearts immediately

the hearts are supposed to be the friendship, not their mood, right?

[brittle pasture]

friendship yes

the heart increase is proportional to the treat price/sell price ratio, so if a treat is giving too much hearts the animal sell price's probably too cheap

[shut edge]

odd that it wouldn't just be an editible value but hm

[brittle pasture]

well it's like that for balancing reasons (a treat should always increase an animal's sell price more than the price you would have gotten from just shipping the item)

[shut edge]

balance hasn't been my strong suit for sure

looks like all my stuff is currently set to 4000 to buy, 800 to sell

maye that's too cheap

might be because my animals are set up in such a way that there's a base one and then several alternate purchase types who are set to -1 price?

maybe i should just break them up into separate purchases hm

[brittle pasture]

you can still set the sell price of alt purchases without purchase prices

[shut edge]

ah i see what you mean, ok

3000 / 2000 makes treats give two full hearts still but that's better than maxing out

ok i think i've got it to give half a heart now

[real agate]

How do I get permissions to post aout a MOD in mod-showcase? I am listed in the Wiki as a MOD developer from back in the day.

[royal stump]

I'd guess it doesn't; the game's built-in map patch timing tends to be incompatible with some features. You might need to try conditionally editing the Light map property on the farmhouse instead.

[real agate]

I see I need to read the PIN... let me do that. Thanks

[brittle pasture]

you're orange so you still have perms

[real agate]

Sorry if this is the wrong way to do it. Forgive me as it has been several years...

The original Junk Mail MOD is back and better than ever. Updated for 1.6.

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4452

[shut edge]

too tired to do balance work i think, nap time

[real agate]

Man that was fun, and no where near what I thought I was in for. However, that MOD only messes with mail. No graphic manipulations. Now to update the next old MOD.

[quick sand]

fishing trawler perhaps?

[brittle pasture]

I think you mistook who the author was?

also last I checked it still works, graphical issues at the docks notwithstanding

[hard fern]

i can't find it on the cp docs (maybe i missed it) but how would you do like an auto mod check thing but when said condition is false? like "When": "HasMod" but when you dont have the mod

sorry if that sentence was a jumble.

like theoretically i know how to do it but i can't remember the right way to do it exactly

[drowsy pewter]

"HasMod|contains=modid": false

[hard fern]

thank you discord user six four eight zero

[gaunt orbit]

Forsy are you on Tumblr

I ask because that's a very tumblr-style phrasing

[hard fern]

not really

[gaunt orbit]

Maybe just coincidence then

[hard fern]

or i randomly picked it up via internet lingo osmosis 😅

[gaunt orbit]

Also likely

Tumblr is weird bc it's not that popular in and of itself, but it still has really strong background influence on the rest of the internet

[calm nebula]

Unlike instagram

Which feels like the Avatar (blue alien version) of social media

[drowsy pewter]

does anyone know where the hell to find info on rock hit points?

I just want to make my thing take three hits to break with a normal pick

actually, maybe 5

[gaunt orbit]

Uh, object.performToolAction or whatever it's called

The god method for using tools on things

At least I think that's where it is

It's somewhere in the object spaghetti that much I know

Objects have a field for hitpoints

[hard fern]

Is it bad i thought of real spaghetti at first

[uncut viper]

float power = Math.Max(1f, (float)(t.upgradeLevel.Value + 1) * 0.75f); this is the formula for how much damage it'll do to the rock, at least, i think

if basic rocks are resourceclumps then i think they have a health of 1? idk dont quote me 100% on that

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6706 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1431497287355338865)

[drowsy pewter]

ok, i think i got it

[calm nebula]

Gdi

I thought that other quote emoji wouldn't actually summon the bot

[uncut viper]

outsmarted by a bot

[gaunt orbit]

Basic rocks are objects IIRC. Only big rocks are clumps

[indigo yoke]

working on improving spirit. so far it looks good @_@

[indigo yoke]

also updated water to work with the lava in the volcano

[deep cypress]

Is there an option to cause the NPC to change their appearance for their new location when I have warped them using the console?

Like, a debug key.

[shut edge]

Neat

At work wishing I was modding as usual smdh

Time to overthink what I wanna do when I get home on a loop

[low marlin]

(CONTENT PATCHER QUESTION)

For the "Spouse" token, does it check for the spouse of ONLY the player having a content.json file with a "When" condition featuring this token or ANY player in MP?

If it is the former, how can I change the "Spouse" condition so that it targets ANY player with a particular spouse (or spouses)?

[deep cypress]

For that, you use the context: thing to say what player.

An on my phone, about to go to bed, but, PolyamorySweet’s content patcher file has an example of this in the main file somewhere.

Was going to try to find the content patcher documentation for it, but it’s not workiny on my phone either. It’s like

When:

“player: current” : true

That’s not the exact pf it, but hopefully it can make it so that you might fond that which you need

[shut edge]

Yeah there's stuff for like current player, any player somewhere that would probably do what you are trying

And I suppose without poly going the spouse itself would limit it to a particular player? Unless you can double marry in vanilla

Sounds a bit tricky tho yeah

[kind juniper]

Hi, I was wondering if it's possible to add something like a mostly transparent overlay that would work more or less like the weather particles and would always stay, at least outdoors? I'm hoping to make a recolor inspired by silent hill and thought it would be fun to add some fog, maybe something similar to the overlay the green rain day has but gray

[drowsy pewter]

so the way that SVE does fog is that its a literal layer of map tiles put over everything, which can be a mess for compat especially if this is intended everywhere, however Cloudy Skies is a weather type framework and would be able to do custom weather types like that

[kind juniper]

Hmm looked it up and sounds like Cloudy Skies could work for this! Thank you! :D

[drowsy pewter]

It would definitely be really unique and eyecatching if you did that, especially if you had like different fog types that changed with the seasons

[blissful panther]

MEEP will do map parallax stuff... eventually.

[drowsy pewter]

ouhhjjj

[low marlin]

I have poly -

My use case is:

For my custom IUCT fork, I now want to have the fork to detect if ANY player (not just the host or current playing having the fork installed) is married to the Wizard (or Krobus/Sen/whoever I am planning to add custom children dialogue).

To be exact:

One player (regardless of being the host player or a farmhand) is married to any particular spouse (both vanilla and modded) - and their children would have unique dialogue - And ONLY the children of the player marrying that spouse have the dialogue

(E.g. Host married Sebastian, but a farmhand marries Kenneth (RSV) and there are unique IUCT lines for Kenneth's children - so by that logic, only the "Kenneth's spouse" player's children would have the unique lines)

[shut edge]

Ah yeah that makes sense

[lucid iron]

do u want to try my spaget

I added free love support last week

[low marlin]

So, is only the "Spouse" token enough for the use case I've just mentioned - Or there needs to be additional step (s)?

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/releases/tag/0.10.4

[shut edge]

Yeah I really don't know myself

[lucid iron]

This mod gives kids a unique id so that their true parent is tracked and you just edit their Characters/Dialogue/<kidid> no tokens required

It would probably not work that good in an existing save though, unless you dove all your kids before install

Also gotta actually make the content pack

[low marlin]

I was not asking about this mod though - I mean asking for how the "Spouse" token works and its scope in MP

[shut edge]

you mean I gotta make a mod for the mod to work? Dang

I suppose for that case maybe it just works fine?

[lucid iron]

So for mp the Spouse token should return your (primary) spouse

[shut edge]

It's checking who their NPC parent is so the players shouldn't really matter?

[lucid iron]

it doesn't know anything about the kid you are speaking too

[low marlin]

Not that - I mean, should it detect the active player (the one having a mod where this token is checked)'s spouse (s) or only the host player (if the token is used in a condition alone)?

[shut edge]

I think it would do host if you said host and any if you said any? Maybe I misunderstand

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#target-player

Some tokens have this feature

But the default is the local player pretty sure (Game1.player)

For UCT + poly cases it's a problem because there's no knowledge of which npc parent this kid is associated with

So you get the kid dialogue for any kid i think

[low marlin]

So far, it is just only me marrying the Wizard (via SVE + RRRR) - So the dialogue works fine (I have only add generic dialogue for children from existing marriage - Wizard-specific children will be added later (identifiable by an editable name in the config.json file))

But in MP, it would be "odd" if any player's children (regardless of who they marry) say the same things about the Wizard.

I need to make it so that the IUCT fork would check for whether the current player (especially in MP contexts) is the Wizard / whoever I am planning to add special children dialogue later on

[lucid iron]

Yeah like i said it's not a problem the spouse token can perfectly solve i feel

The edge case there is mainly when you talk to a farmhand's children though (i.e. a child whose parent is not supposed to be the wizard)

If you just dont do that then it's probably fine

[low marlin]

What about how to use these to do my use case?

[lucid iron]

If u wanted to just know any player is married to wizard u can try the anyPlayer arg

Rmbr u can patch parse "{{tokenwhatever}}" to test things

[low marlin]

What about using unique player IDs (the player installing the mod can try to get the ID and plop it into the slot for that in the content.json)?

[lucid iron]

I'm not sure if there's a point there

And idk if i would expect average player to be able to find this value from the save file

Try n see if it works for your personal desires at least

[low marlin]

what about checking for children’s names?

Would the “ChildName” token accepts lists?

[lucid iron]

Do you want a condition like

[low marlin]

(For example, using a mod modifying the children limit, a player can have more than 2 children with a particular spouse (or a number of spouses) - So if the condition check runs through a “ChildName” token check - Would it accept list results (e.g. entering a list of names to that token, and it checks for any children with any of those names + the current player’s spouse being any NPC I want to add custom UCT child dialogue)

[lucid iron]

Ok so you want a OR case

The ChildNames tokens is itself a list of child names

[low marlin]

I mean an “AND” case

Checking a list of child names AND if the current player is married to a particular spouse

[lucid iron]

You can check if it contains a certain name but idk if you can do intersect conveniently

[lucid iron]

The "list of children name" is OR

Not even talking about the spouse name yet

[low marlin]

Child names and spouse name: are OR checks - I mean to stack those altogether

[lucid iron]

Well anyways I think in a When block if you do "ChildNames": "name1, name2" in a when block, it'll check for any in the comma separated list

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#conditions

And if u want it to be config then sure use config token instead of literal "name1, name2"

[low marlin]

Lemme try to clarify:

The “When” conditional check checks for 2 things:

• A list of children’s names
• A list of spouses for the current player

So the logic would be:

• It would first check if any of current player’s children have certain names as written in the token (e.g. If the player’s 2 children with (let’s say) Shane are named “Mandy” and “Grim” - The mod would check if any of that player’s children are named as such)
• Then, the conditional block would check for the current player’s spouse.

If both checks return true (i.e. the current player (regardless of host or not) is married to (e.g.) Shane AND they have children named (e.g.) Mandy and Grim) - Then these children would have unique dialogue

Regardless of whether I use config tokens or not - How should I do the conditional loop handling this?

[drowsy pewter]

stardew has informed me i've started the game 1000 times

they should add counters for 10000 and 100000, i think those would be more accurate

[next plaza]

Ah, but that feature is for players.

If it were designed for modders it would definitely be much higher

As anyone who has a modder friend on Steam who hadn’t hidden their “___ is now playing ___” statuses can attest

[vernal crest]

Lol my flatmate came to check on me one day because they got the Steam notification that I had started Stardew so many times they got worried about what was happening to me

[calm nebula]

I have disabled steam notifications

Also frankly I have like three friends in steam and all are in the stardew modding community

[next plaza]

(can confirm)

[low marlin]

So, flow chart (maybe):

Game check for current player’s status -> Goes through a list of names for children born of certain spouses (list for children’s names can have up to 12 names based on my PolySweet child limit) -> Checks if this player have children bearing any name in the list -> (1)

(1) is true (player has children with any or all of those names) -> Checks for said player’s spouse -> (2)

(2) is true (player is married to specific spouses (e.g. Wizard, Kenneth, Jio, etc.)) -> Their children with that spouse whose names are listed in the checks leading up to (1) above will have unique dialogue.

Otherwise, the children will use IUCT default dialogue instead

[uncut viper]

you cannot do loops like that in CP

you can only check for every name at once and every spouse at once in a single patch

you can ofc split it into several patches each for a different name

[next plaza]

It is time... for crime <vanishes to crime thread>

[drowsy pewter]

hm, casey, can i make these fail silently or set a condition so they dont spawn if something is on the tile? i only want them to spawn on these specific spots so they dont overflow the beach over time

[uncut viper]

(this does however mean you'd need to write specific names down, which makes it kind of pointless)

[low marlin]

For examples that list as “otherwise”, here are some examples:

• The current player listed Shiro’s children as “Ryouta”, “Takashi”, “Tomo”, “Rio”. They indeed have children with some or all of these names, but that player’s spouse is currently Sam
• The current player is married to Harvey, but they don’t have any children with the names “Kevin”, “Hiromu”, “Ryo”, “Lana”

[low marlin]

What do you mean with this?

[uncut viper]

the ChildNames token only returns a list of names. you, as a modder, have no idea what those names are going to be beforehand

you cannot use the ChildNames token to determine which children belong to which spouse

[next plaza]

Too late, I already went to crime land. (/s)

At the moment no. Feel free to make a github issue about it so I don't forget, though.

Or even just comment on this issue with that (and any other things you want): https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/issues/535

[uncut viper]

nor can you even get at all what children were born to what spouse in the first place

as you only have a singular name in the Spouse token, unless polysweet/free love/whatever has its own token

[drowsy pewter]

oh god, another thing on my list

[next plaza]

😅

[uncut viper]

and you cant really do anything with just the name

[low marlin]

If you have Unique Children installed - You can check who is the children’s NPC parent

That’s the root of my IUCT fork’s logic

[next plaza]

You can literally just screenshot your message into that issue (or just a link), if you want

[uncut viper]

not with content patcher's childnames and spouse tokens alone you cannot

[low marlin]

#making-mods-general message Pathoschild said this is possible ig

(Checking for any out of multiple spouses)

[uncut viper]

not sure how thats relevant

you can check if they are married to Sam or Shane

it doesnt tell you which child names belong to Sam and which belong to Shane

[low marlin]

My use case is, for example:

A player have 2 children with Shane named “Mandy” and “Billy” and another two (possible with mods uncapping the children limit) with Sam named “Miku” and “Teruki” - So via Unique Children’s feature of checking a child’s parents via social status menu, they can use the children’s name in the conditional loop I mentioned above

[uncut viper]

they cant, because you cannot do the conditional loop you mentioned above in Content Patcher

its not a thing you can do

content patcher does not support the kind of variable looping and dynamic condition checking that you require for your idea

if you need such functionality, it must be implemented yourself in a C# component

[low marlin]

Per-spouse checks there’s only 1 spouse per check -

But for children names it can check any in a list

[uncut viper]

the ChildNames token does not care who the children belong to. a check that says "Is their spouse named Sam and do they have a child with ANY of these names?" means nothing if the list of names is every child they have, including children with Shane

[autumn tide]

hey! uhh where can one look at achievement IDs?

[uncut viper]

you are welcome to experiment with the tokens if you want to make sure, but what you want is not possible with Content Patcher alone

[low marlin]

I did not mention exact child parentage checks.

But checking the current player’s spouse and if the player has children with any of the names in a predetermined list (the only way to tell the children apart in this case is visually via UC (Unique Children))

[autumn tide]

my dumb ass forgot i could look at the game files-

...

[low marlin]

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1303/images/6278/6278-1630903184-2002843986.png

I think something like this to tell whose children it is in Unique Children

(From the mod’s official Nexus page)

So my method of checking children’s parentage is NOT dependent on UC-related tokens/code

Just check the social tab and hover over a child’s name to see who is that child’s parent (especially NPC spouses as that child’s parent)

[gentle rose]

who's doing the check? the mod user?

[low marlin]

The player can check their child’s parentage with Unique Children installed by going to the social tab of the menu

[gentle rose]

and they'll tell your mod?

[low marlin]

Yes

[gentle rose]

how?

[woeful lintel]

I just realized that FF duplicates errors when failing loading because it goes through the game's asset pipeline. What's the correct way of handling an error in a the Load function of an asset requested event?

[fathom hound]

The Stardrop crop sometimes gets glitchy and does not get harvested properly with a syth from the farming mastery.

Anyone know how I can fix my custom crop working with iridium scythe?

[low marlin]

What’s matter here is the “Child with” block in the UC social tab example above.

So you can tell who is the parent of the child with that name.

Then, open the content file (or GMCM config tokens if I can implement that) and write the name (or names) in the token field checking for children’s names (within the same conditional block checking for the current player’s spouse (once spouse per such block, as each specific spouse would have a unique set of children dialogue)).

[gentle rose]

I thought you said the mod USER was doing this

[gaunt orbit]

usually the assumption is that the person loading the asset handles the error with a try/catch

[woeful lintel]

that's me 🙂

but even the try catch logs two errors

[low marlin]

What do you mean, specifically?

The action of inputting which child names to check is made by the user.

The spouse checks are NOT intended for users to edit

[gaunt orbit]

that's weird, it shouldn't. Maybe content patcher is logging one as well?

[low marlin]

So while you are not meant to switch around dialogue sets between different spouses (e.g. the set intended for Kenneth’s children being used for the check intended for Jio’s children instead) - You can change the list of child names “associated” with each of those spouses

[fathom hound]

Bump

[gaunt orbit]

do they say exactly what's not working?

[fathom hound]

Nope, I'll have to test this then

They just say it doesn't work sometimes

[gaunt orbit]

I love high quality bug reports ✨

[fathom hound]

[gaunt orbit]

did they give a log in case another mod is messing with scythe logic

[fathom hound]

Nope lol, I'll ask

[low marlin]

For now, the dialogue sets would apply to ALL children a player could have - But as the fork expands - There would be child-specific (name-based AND spouse-based) dialogue.

What’s important is that is the “Spouse” token checks for the current player (the one running this mod on their instance of Stardew), the host player, or any player regardless of them being online or not?

[woeful lintel]

For example, if a FF data asset is invalid, there's an error when the assetrequested event handler tries to parse it (either the json doesn't match the data model, or the data model validation threw an InvalidDataException):

[00:41:18 ERROR Furniture Framework] Mod crashed when loading asset 'FF/leroymilo.FurnitureExample.FF/content.json'. SMAPI will use the default asset instead. Error details:
SContentLoadException: Failed loading asset 'content.json' from SMAPI/leroymilo.furnitureexample.ff: an unexpected error occurred.
 ---> Newtonsoft.Json.JsonReaderException: Can't parse JSON file at /mnt/ext4_data/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley/Mods (dev)/Example Pack/content.json.
Technical details: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.

then the part of FF that asked the asset in the first place handles the loading error and logs that the data is invalid with the traceback:

[00:41:18 ERROR Furniture Framework] Failed to load, skipping pack.
StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Exceptions.SContentLoadException: Furniture Framework failed loading content asset 'FF/leroymilo.FurnitureExample.FF/content.json' from the game content.
 ---> Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentLoadException: The content file was not found.
 ---> System.IO.FileNotFoundException: Content/FF/leroymilo.FurnitureExample.FF/content.json.xnb
 ---> System.IO.DirectoryNotFoundException: Could not find a part of the path '/mnt/ext4_data/SteamLibrary/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley/Content/FF/leroymilo.FurnitureExample.FF/content.json.xnb'.

(I removed the traceback of both logs for brievity)
I would like to only keep the first log, since it's the one with the info about what went wrong during parsing.

[gaunt orbit]

ah, I see why

the first one handles the error and then doesn't load anything.
the second one happens because you requested an asset and nothing loaded it

[woeful lintel]

So I need some sort of invalid asset to return when nothing loaded?

[gaunt orbit]

the easiest way to do this is to throw a custom exception inside the first one instead of logging an error, and then do the logging in the second one

you can check the InnerException on your ContentLoadException and do logging based on that, and rethrow otherwise

[woeful lintel]

hmmm, but I don't actually handle anything in the first one, I do throw an error

[gaunt orbit]

oh hm

maybe SMAPI is intervening then

[lucid iron]

Are you directly loading the whole json

[woeful lintel]

...

[gaunt orbit]

you could simply silence the second set of errors by try/catching and logging to trace, though that would also catch unrelated errors

[lucid iron]

Maybe if you load empty json and then do the edit by reading separate json

So even if die u give a valid empty model back

Also nice place to do any funny model transform things u want

[woeful lintel]

that's what I already do, hence the "Failed to load, skipping pack." text. I guess I'd like to have the info from the first error.

[woeful lintel]

wouldn't the same thing happen when reading the separate json? I'm not sure what's the proposition here

the use case is loading data from content packs for FF

[woeful lintel]

In this case, the error was thrown from the [OnDeserialized] method of the model, maybe it has something to do with that

I'm starting to think the solution is for the asset loading method to have a try/catch and return an InvalidPack object inheriting from FPack (so that it does return a proper object) containing the error info so that the pack loading method can print the correct error.

There might be something in the modcontentmanager also eating the custom errors I throw in the jsonparsers/validators

[low marlin]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#target-player

what is the difference between these two categories when used in queries or input arguments?

[woeful lintel]

yeah, I think thatTechnical details: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. is newtonsoft eating my error.

[low marlin]

So, would “HasValue: {{currentPlayer}}{{<insert spouse name you want to check>}}” really check if the current player is married to a particular spouse?

Or..

The name of the current or specified player's NPC spouse

Would this check for the only the current player (the person having the mod installed - might or might not be the host)’s spouse, only the host player’s spouse, or both (checks for any player’s spouse (s) regardless if they are married to one (or some) particular spouses)?

[finite ginkgo]

Not sure what you're expecting HasValue to do here, HasValue does exactly what it says in the name, tells you if the provided value has a value

For the current or specified player part, click on it on the CP docs, it'll take you to an explanation of how to specify the player, if the player is not specified for a token the default is the current player

[low marlin]

In MP, how can currentPlayer work for host and farmhands?

I know that if I have the mod and I am hosting an MP instance, I am both the hostPlayer and currentPlayer at the same time

What about farmhands having the mod? Would tokens like “Spouse” registers their value (s) instead of the host player’s?

[finite ginkgo]

The current player is, in fact, the current player, which can be the host, but is not always

A farmhand's current player with be the farmhand and the token's value be according to them

[low marlin]

So would that mean:

in my IUCT fork, if I have the mod, it will recognise me as the currentPlayer - But since I would be hosting the world, I am also the hostPlayer.

Other farmhands having the mod? The mod would recognise them as a currentPlayer only and would fetch their values and assign to the tokens (e.g. Host marries Shane but Farmhand marries Emily - So the mod’s “Spouse” token detects Emily as that farmhand’s spouse instead of Shane)

Is this correct?

[finite ginkgo]

yes

[low marlin]

So that means the “Spouse” token alone is sufficient to detect the spouse (s) of any player having the mod - and the value the token returns would be different for each player, right?

[finite ginkgo]

Yes

[low marlin]

What about “ChildNames”? Does it support lists?

(e.g. I want the token to check through a list of possible names that one player’s children could have)

Like, “ChildNames”: “Mina, Jon, etc.”?

Does this token (or ANY token) works like this?

[stuck thunder]

Which file and/or folder are the character portraits in?
Referring to the furniture.

[vernal crest]

Junimo furniture in tilesheets iirc

[stuck thunder]

Yep, thanks.

[low marlin]

If I want to set up config tokens that the player can input text in (usually a single value) - What should I do?

[lucid iron]

Saying empty json was misleading my bad, i was thinking more like you just construct instance of the model you are loading

[royal stump]

Assuming this is a CP pack:

"ConfigSchema": {
  "PlayerTextOption": {
      "AllowBlank": true,
     "Default": "default text"
  }
},```

other options being detailed here https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md

(and that'd result in a {{PlayerTextOption}} token you can use)

[lucid iron]

A failure in Edit is less severe than failure in Load

But hrm if the real problem is newtonsoft not throwing error up to a point u can catch then it's moot

[timid onyx]

What specific flag(s) is or are set when you buy the Joja membership?

[royal stump]

jojaMember is the main one, though there might be other incidental changes
https://www.stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Mail_data#Mail_flags

[timid onyx]

Gotcha, thanks

[umbral plume]

pst real quick; anyone know if its possible to put gifs as sprites or does it have to be jpg/png (aka can i make sprites moving pictures or do they have to be still pictures)?

[hard fern]

They need to be pngs.

You can animate them frane by frame tho

[lucid iron]

You can animate them with various frameworks

What are the sprites specifically?

[umbral plume]

i was makin them and realized idk if theyd even work but they would be like this

https://tenor.com/view/nepeta-homestuck-talksprite-leijon-gif-8164283

[hard fern]

Oh. I thought you meant character sprites

Not portraits

[umbral plume]

but i was thinking like the sprite would make a talking motion during a single text box or something

[lucid iron]

There's a wip (not released) framework for that kinda thing

If you want fine control of animation timings on a portrait

[hard fern]

[royal stump]

(just testing for fun, but yeah )
unknown file extension '.gif'; must be one of '.fnt', '.json', '.png', '.tbin', '.tmx', or '.xnb'.

[umbral plume]

eeeeeeehhhhhhhhhhh i only know minimal coding stuff, i only made a single farmhouse map out of pure spite so idk much about the coding part

[woeful lintel]

I guess spacecore's animation feature would worknfor this

[umbral plume]

i wonder if theres a way to animate a png picture lmao

[woeful lintel]

That would be an easy way to do that, but I think it'll force the animation to loop

[umbral plume]

thats fine itd be set to loop anyway

probably

[royal stump]

in general, the game's animations are on sprite sheets, where the frames are just side by side

[umbral plume]

i was more so wondering if itd still come out animated if i tricked it into thinking the picture was a png file

[hard fern]

Eh no

[umbral plume]

darn

[royal stump]

Content Patcher can't load those, the game won't know what to do with them, and it might not have the engine support for them anyway

[umbral plume]

booooooooo

[royal stump]

being based on an old microsoft 2d system

[umbral plume]

💔

[royal stump]

(or more to the point, gif as a format has always been weird w/ low support )

[hard fern]

Gif cursed

[royal stump]

but yeah, frameworks might let you splice that up into separate images and switch mid-dialogue, though I'm not familiar with doing it

[umbral plume]

it was a cool idea while it lasted

https://tenor.com/view/dumping-trash-daniel-labelle-frustrated-garbage-trash-gif-27186872

[woeful lintel]

I don't think you have to give up the idea, you can setup the portait spritesheet like the vanilla ones: each portait is a different expression, then use spacecore to animate them: it's a framework that works through CP if you're not familiar, so it's pretty easy to use

[umbral plume]

👀

[lucid iron]

Yeah I don't think animating it is the problem

But you should give up on fancy lip syncing or whatever

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27456

This one gives all the portraits looping animations

It's a lot of work but hey it works

[umbral plume]

wasnt planning on getting that fancy! i was just gonna make like 2-4 frames and mush them into a looping gif then push them into the code

[umbral plume]

YOOOO THOSE ARE SO GOOD?????

[lucid iron]

The things new framework would let you do is make eye blink and mouth flaps independent

Which would achieve stuff like "mouth only flap while text is typing"

It's cool but also unreleased

But art wise it's same amount of work

Gotta draw all that

[lucid iron]

I feel it's fine if u just make things work with spacecore like this mod for now, think about fancy shit later

[gentle rose]

oh my god I wonder what that framework is

[umbral plume]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-skared-feel-bad-sorry-gif-14587007170547437610

Its......actually a better version of what i was even gonna do....

[gentle rose]

(it can separate a lot more than that tbf, it allows you to have pretty much arbitrary layers/combinations)

[gentle rose]

what were you thinking?

I wanna see I wanna see

[umbral plume]

i mean....its not nearly that fancy and i was gonna redraw them because im not a fan but i have a few hailey ones done if you wanna see...?

[gentle rose]

hi, I’m the author of that new framework btw

(I didn’t make that art, that’s dacar, he’s very cool and inspired the idea)

[hard fern]

Discord is actually allergic to playing videos on mobile i swear

Oh GREAT now the video audio is haunting me even when the video isnt playing and i switched to a different window

[indigo yoke]

are the only 3 fonts in sardew tinyfont, smallfont, and dialogue font?

[gentle rose]

tinyfont is only numbers

[lucid iron]

There's also sprite font (sort of)

That's the big thick banner fonts

[indigo yoke]

that's the font used in stores right?

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MxJ6Zwy88PA/maxresdefault.jpg

like the seed shop (sorry random image found for example)

[royal stump]

is dialogueFont the one called SpriteFont in the files? I forget how it all translates into the game

[royal stump]

in content it's smallfont, spritefont, tinyfont, and the asian character sets that I think go into spritefont

[umbral plume]

ITS A WORK IN PROGRESS-

[woeful lintel]

The art is really good

However

[gentle rose]

cute! I think a ton of people would love that style. it reminds me a lot of flash games!

[woeful lintel]

Hd portraits

[gentle rose]

my framework handles those just fine dw

[woeful lintel]

You're never gonna guess the inspiration 👀

[umbral plume]

whistles innocently

[royal stump]

(okay yeah, C#'s dialogueFont is the content folder's SpriteFont, so it's 3)

[hard fern]

This feels so familiar and i can't pin my finger on it...

[gentle rose]

ooo, spill

[hard fern]

But yeah it totally reminds me of those old flash games

[umbral plume]

https://tenor.com/view/nepeta-homestuck-talksprite-leijon-gif-8164283

[gentle rose]

haha makes sense

but it reminded me more of like, did any of you play the barbie(?) flash game that used to exist

or like the papa’s games

[umbral plume]

YESSS

obvi mine arent finished and DEF need a redo now that im looking at them after not drawing for a few days BUT it seems dacar beat me to it and did it better sooo ehhehheh

[crude plank]

it's snapchat

i'll see myself out iro it's ok

[gentle rose]

if there was only room for one animated portrait mod I wouldn’t bother with a framework, I’d make C# for dacar and leave it at that

[umbral plume]

i suppose our art styles are different enough right like i dont wanna copy him or make like a dollar store knock off lmao

[gentle rose]

if dacar had a problem with other people making animated portraits, he wouldn’t be actively supporting me in making my framework and he was inspired by other games too!

[hard fern]

Dont think i ever played the barbie ones but i played the papas games all the time lol

I used to be scared of the closers and would always quit at the second day though LOL

[umbral plume]

closers was the jam

🤔 i really dont know the first thing aside from the art portion of making an animated sprite mod so does your ( @gentle rose ) framework mod have instructions in the description or can i like send them to you to input into a code oooorrrrr....? idk how that part works help lol

(i feel like a dummy)

[gentle rose]

it will have instructions once it’s out! there should be a beta version soon

but it will hopefully be almost as simple as any content patcher mod

[uncut viper]

if dacar had a problem with other people making animated portraits, he wouldn't be actively supporting you in making your framework in the right at all anyway /lh

[gentle rose]

potato, tomato

[umbral plume]

i should also fix my farmhouse map

[spiral lion]

hello!

Does anyone have an idea why my winter festival outfit does not work??

[indigo yoke]

Does this look better than the previous menu screen?

example if what it previously looked like (i dont have a proper screenshot saved sorry)

[autumn tide]

hmm, maybe add a more detailed magnifying glass sprite?

OR give it a shadow?

your mod sounds so effing cool btw

[indigo yoke]

ty. tho kittycatcasey did the original. I am just updating it and trying to (imo) improve the menus, balance, ect.

[autumn tide]

gotcha!

istg casey has the wildest ideas-

[next plaza]

yeah I wasn't actually fond of the original mod myself because how jank it was

I still want to make a new magic mod but I've yet to come up with something I'm happy with

[indigo yoke]

100% understandable

cleaning up the jank has been enjoyable @_@, still jank tho.

[autumn tide]

😂

[indigo yoke]

like the light from lantern actually following you now instead of just being placed. should help people understand it working. Also added a lot more SFX so people know something is happening / improving player feedback

[indigo yoke]

I look forward to what you come up with when it eventually happens~

[autumn tide]

same here!

[next plaza]

Fun fact, it originally did follow the player but just broke at some point

[indigo yoke]

rip

I only played the (late) 1.5 version

T_T

[next plaza]

Part of my problem with the magic mod was that you're essentially just using mana in place of stamina for a lot of cases (such as the farming stuff)

If I actually end up making magic 2.0 (under a different name at this point), I want it to be more unique, and not simply feel like you can do a little more of the same stuff

[autumn tide]

tbh 3d stardew is magic-y enough to me-

[next plaza]

That's the other problem, there's so much work to do with stardew3d, and I basically only make modding progress on the weekends these days 😅

[lucid iron]

Make magic the fps part of 3 d

[uncut viper]

might make the other fps part more difficult maybe

[hard fern]

Stardew but... 3d?

[next plaza]

Magic will be its own mod if it gets made. 😛

But there’s a good chance I’ll add 3d mod support for it…

I would say “have you not seen the crimes”, but it’s a secret, so of course

So secret you have to actually check for the thread manually

[autumn tide]

very secret indeed

[next plaza]

(There’s two crime threads technically, and only one is 3d)

[indigo yoke]

that's a fair complaint. 15 out of 30 spells atm are just "Do something you can already do somehow but with mana".

[next plaza]

Yep, and a lot of the others just didn’t feel interesting (at least in the version I maintained)

I liked shockwave

[hard fern]

(unrelated but i think it would be cool if Stardew had that same look as like, octopath traveler as an example)

[lucid iron]

H d 2 d

[hard fern]

Also i just realized id been using spanish keyboard???? Is that why i keep typing ñ randomly....

[lucid iron]

I think that's maybe possible with [redacted] shader things (even tho the hd2d aesthetic is like 2.5d)

[next plaza]

Well, for what’s it is worth, Stardew 3D will have third person as well.

And it even shouldn’t be too hard for a mod to add a new mode rather than first person / third person. That’s how the VR is working despite being a separate mod.

Then you just need a CP pack to override assets

[indigo yoke]

I personally don't mind it too much per say...
as if magic were actually real, people would also use it for really mundane stuff as well as fairly spectacular. That is kind of some of my favorite parts about magical stories. (this is just the first example that came off the top of my head) a wizard using their magic to stir their coffee instead of doing it normally with a spoon

but it should be kept in check. there should be a lot more unique spells than mundane

[hard fern]

Now all we need are those really fancy shaders they have for Minecraft

Just for Stardew instead XD

[next plaza]

Yes on both accounts.

It’d be different if the magic farming (for example) actually felt different, even if the end result was the same

[next plaza]

….i mean technically i am using shaders

And if I end up going the even more heinous crime route so that I don’t have to figure out lighting/shadows in an optima way by myself… well, it’ll enable a lot

[indigo yoke]

[next plaza]

I really should do that sooner rather than later to be honest. My initial attempt at it didn’t turn out but some stuff had changed since then.

I’ll be ripping out tons of existing code and having to replace it when I do that

[indigo yoke]

hmmm, maybe I could work on water/till/clear debris a bit more.
Like copy over the spirit AI / effects I did and try to mix the two.

So instead of just "click magic hotkey, water area". It would be "click magic hotkey, summon water junimo. they go and water tiles around you"

[next plaza]

Yeah, that’d be better. Though I’m also contemplating stuff that is stronger but also has drawbacks

Not sure what that’d be for the farming yet though

[gentle rose]

I would love a programming-like magic system/grammar

that allows actual creativity/flexibility in spells

[royal stump]

Check your logs to make sure it's loading without errors, but beyond that, you could try using a different condition to see if that's the issue (e.g. "Condition": "true",)

[next plaza]

that might be a big part of what I’m contemplating, though a little different since I want to keep the magic circle thing

disappears for at least like 20 minutes

[spiral lion]

Thanks!!
I tried it and it worked with different conditions. What could be the error then? 😮

[safe kraken]

The only problem I have with animated portraits is that there's not enough people doing them >:D/j

[deep cypress]

Is there a debug key to cause the NPC to show the appearance?

Like, for Msru’s Hospital Look. Warpimg a character to there doesn’t force the look.

[spiral lion]

Hmm, i dont understand? How do I add a debug key? :))

[royal stump]

I'm not sure about testing with debug commands, but either way, it sounds like the condition isn't checked at the right time during festivals for the is_event query. You could try something like this instead, if having them change clothes all day is fine:

"Condition": "DAY_OF_MONTH 25, SEASON winter"

Or if it should just be during the festival, you could add a time or location query, like this:

"Condition": "DAY_OF_MONTH 25, SEASON winter, TIME 900 2200"

[spiral lion]

Thank you for the advise! I tried it, but it did not work 🙁 ❤️

[low marlin]

Then how can I call this text again later on?

[royal stump]

with that example, you'd use the token {{PlayerTextOption}} in your CP patches, and that would be replaced with whatever's in the player's config.json/GMCM

[low marlin]

For instance, if I add 12 text input config for children's names in my IUCT fork (multiply that by how many spouses do I want to have custom child dialogue and how many scenarios I want the dialogue to happen (dating, engaged, married, etc.)) - Would tokens like "ChildNames" accept list of curly braced tokens?

[royal stump]

I can't really say without knowing what setup is involved, but if you mean something like this, then it should work:

"When": {
  "ChildNames": "{{PlayerTextOption}}" //apply this patch if the player entered a child's name
}```

depending on whatever other details are involved, since that's probably not the goal

something like "ChildNames |contains={{PlayerTextOption}}": "true" would probably work too

[low marlin]

The setup would check through a list of child names, then checks through who is the current player's spouse - If both returns true, unique child dialogue will trigger rather than the standard IUCT dialogue

[spiral lion]

Thanks everyone! It works 😄

[autumn tide]

ooh they look great!!

[elfin kindle]

The styel is really close to the canon art!

[indigo yoke]

Adjusted the spell bars position from being in a row to being next to each other, along with a background and some text. Is this too much?

old for comparison

[brave fable]

if you have the room, i'd suggest laying them out horizontally in the menu to match how they appear above/below the toolbar in gameplay for clarity

that way you likely wouldn't need to include the 'spell bars' label to tell you what it is, since it's clearly the same spellbar you already recognise

[tired relic]

can someone help me out lol ive been out of the modding game for a while and my progress got deleted

and i dont remember how to do this stuff for just making basic sprites

[uncut viper]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[uncut viper]

first bullet point

[tired relic]

thank you

[uncut viper]

the content patcher docs (linked on the wiki tutorial for content patcher part i believe) has some examples too iirc, which will also probably come in handy, particularly in the EditImage section

[tired relic]

okay let me finish some of this ill come back for help making a gatcha machine

[indigo yoke]

working on it

[brave fable]

orthographic or perspective for an event scene anything but code for a day

[tired relic]

this feels like a dumb question but how do i gety it from an xnb to a png?

[brave fable]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brave fable]

any question you don't know the answer to is a good question

one such question is 'how in all hell are you meant to sprite animated fire'

[uncut viper]

with scrolling noise I think

[brave fable]

the only scrolling noise i know is the sound of my mouse zooming in and out on these sprites

[elfin kindle]

Thats so incredibly impressive, good job!!!

[hard fern]

perspective looks cool

[brave fable]

thanks trying to go for the same effect as in the movie theatre and the mermaid boat

i'm sure detailing this will be very very simple and enjoyable

which will hopefully make me go back to work instead

[lucid iron]

2

[tired relic]

me just learning tos dreverse engineer my old mod

[uncut viper]

(i liked the ortho better personally...)

[brave fable]

it's a tough call. i'm not surprised ca never actually applies perspective on objects even in perspective scenes, the end result will probably still look warped even after being smoothed out and detailed

[tired relic]

me learning how to do this by force trial and error like forcing a puzzle

[brave fable]

could trash the two benches on the sides but also i don't much want the room to be fully empty

much to solve

[lucid iron]

bbry will the ortho one be a map

for u to run around in

[brave fable]

just a cutscene, no movement

[calm nebula]

Lame

/jk ❤️

[royal stump]

I like the latter, but idk how it'll end up looking with NPCs and such, if any

(reminded of an RPG Maker game where the plot was about how hard it is to match* the art pack styles for RPG Maker )

[tired relic]

formating im still confused?

[brave fable]

oh likely just one on the mat in the middle and maybe one or two behind them to the sides. it shouldn't break the illusion of depth too much given the game already does pretty much whatever it wants on that front

[brave fable]

anything specific you're stuck on we can help with?

[tired relic]

make words make sense?

!!format

[brave fable]

https://www.oed.com

[tired relic]

!format

-death-

[vital lotus]

"make words make sense?" /lh

[tired relic]

the content.json is where im stuck

[brave fable]

!json maybe you could share your file here?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[royal stump]

there are some basic examples of each action in CP's docs, if that helps
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#features

(and probably some good guides on the tutorial wiki, but idk which ones to suggest personally)

[vital lotus]

does the power up like spring onion and bear knowledge applies to all players when only unlocked by one in mp games?

[brave fable]

if you use shared wallets then yes (if they're online), otherwise no

[tired relic]

????

[royal stump]

that's the manifest.json format, content.json should be different

[brave fable]

yep, you'll want to change the You can change JSON format value to match your file, so Manifest for manifest.json, and Content Patcher for content.json

[royal stump]

also you can post the uploaded file's URL here to share it directly

[tired relic]

okaay im still confused

whats the difference

[royal stump]

manifest.json is a file every mod has, even C# stuff, to tell SMAPI what the mod is when it's loading

content.json has the actual instructions on how to load your art/edit game data/etc

[tired relic]

T_T do i need to add a content note for every sprite i do?

[royal stump]

there are some ways to load multiple files at a time, but the simple answer is yes, you include another "change" thing for each file you want to load
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#what-does-a-content-pack-look-like

since they need to be in specific "targets" for the game to use

so that text you have there is fine if it's in the manifest.json, but your content.json will be something like a bunch of "load"s like that example

[tired relic]

so how would i have load the muliple different pets? just have it pick up the file for each content.json?

[vital lotus]

Depend on how you structured things. perhaps u could use multiple target and have the fromfile field using {{TargetWithoutPath}}. Or maybe even using template. Would be best if you explain what is it you're trying to do

[tired relic]

im changing the sprites to have butts and the turtles to have random hats

currently just doing the cats atm

[vital lotus]

so adding overlay to an existing assets?

[tired relic]

yeah

[indigo yoke]

okay, moved the bars down. ngl I actually like this. I was feeling a bit icky when messing with the bars when they were on the side.

[tired relic]

...... i forgot u can see the bears butt XD here we go finding every file that has a butt to add a butthole

[vital lotus]

if don't mind ur assets completely replace the image u could do...

        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Animals/cat, Animals/cat1, Animals/cat2, Animals/cat3, Animals/cat4, Animals/cat5",
            "FromFile": "<path to the ur file>/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
        }

Make sure ur file name is cat, cat1, cat2, and so on

If u place all the png in folder name "assets" the the FromFile would be, "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"

[tired relic]

very helpful thank you.

[tired skiff]

is there tooling that exists for getting the decompilation output into a state where i can dotnet run it? the standard ilspy output seems to be missing functions

[tiny zealot]

there is a private code repository (for people of sufficient level on here who also have the Mod Author role) which is the decompiled game code but (afaik) massaged into a state where it can be successfully recompiled. but also afaik there is no special tooling that enabled it and the massaging was done by a person

[royal stump]

yeah, there's mainly a run after decompile.linq that fixes dll references and such

but also "step vi: fix compile errors manually as needed"

[zenith tartan]

Sigh Hi. So, I'm COMPLETELY new to this process, and I've been following the tutorial on the wiki to try to set up a mod (but haven't actually made it really do anything yet). When I try to build it, I get errors saying it can't find the game path. I know that there's an entry on adding the game path manually, which seems like what I need to do, but I don't understand what it's saying. It says to "go to my users folder" (I've done that in file explorer, but maybe they mean to do it in Visual Studio? Which I don't know how to do) and make a targets file (which I have no idea how to do). I've tried googling how to make a targets file, and all the results basically say "you don't need to, it'll import one".

I'm sure this is an absolutely newbie level question that you've probably gotten before, and I tried searching to see if someone had explained this already, but I didn't see it. Can anyone break it down for me?

[ivory plume]

Hi! First, make sure this option in File Explorer is enabled (View > Show > File name extensions):

[lucid iron]

you can find game path via steam if you need to

[ivory plume]

Then just create a text file in that folder, and rename it to stardewvalley.targets.

[lucid iron]

stardew valley > right click > browse local files

also if it's easier u can just toss the game path bit in csproj, the stardewvalley.targets method is just nice if u got multiple mods

<PropertyGroup>
  <GamePath>your/gamepath/here</GamePath>
</PropertyGroup>

[ivory plume]

(And to avoid committing it in Git repos and breaking the build for anyone else who opens your code.)

[zenith tartan]

Oh, really? Okay, well I did try doing that, but Windows doesn't want to let me make a txt file there.

[ivory plume]

Do you not see the option, or does it show an error message?

[zenith tartan]

It doesn't show the option. I should mention I suppose that I'm on Windows 10. It shows an option to add a folder, though that has the icon for user access control or whatever (I am the admin, so I could do that, but it's not the goal right now).

[ivory plume]

Are you in the Users folder itself? If so, you'll need to go one deeper into the subfolder for your username.