#making-mods-general

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little field
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Im so happy

autumn tide
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okayyyy so in my event krobus keeps running off the screen? I want them to hide behind the tree btw, I'll send a vid and my script in a sec

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accidentally closed stardew- gimme a minute lol

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...accidentally closed it AGAIN

vernal crest
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Don't worry about the video, the json is likely enough

autumn tide
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okay

vernal crest
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NPCs throwing themselves into buildings, trees, cliffs, and the void is a normal part of event making lol

tiny zealot
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welcome to the event loop lol

autumn tide
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krobus just runs off into the void and then marlon never spawns-
`continue/55 7/farmer 53 7 0 Krobus 54 7 0 Marlon -100 -100 2 Dwarf -100 -100 2
/shake Krobus 100000
/pause 2500
/question null "...#Are you okay, Krobus?#"
/pause 1500
/action Spiderbuttons.BETAS_TextAboveHead Krobus \"I believe so-\" 2500 0 true #56160C
/pause 3000
/playSound stairsdown
/pause 500
/stopMusic
/pause 500
/emote Krobus 16 true
/beginSimultaneousCommand/jump Krobus 10/playSound dwop/emote Krobus 16 true/endSimultaneousCommand

/pause 100
/faceDirection Krobus 3
/pause 25
/faceDirection Krobus 2
/pause 25
/faceDirection Krobus 1
/beginSimultaneousCommand/jump Krobus 10/playSound dwop/endSimultaneousCommand
/pause 250
/speed Krobus 7/move Krobus 1 1 0

/pause 1500
/pause 1500

/warp Marlon 53 2 continue
/speak Marlon " @! Thank Yoba you’re here! Come, Gil needs our help! "

/pause 250
/emote farmer 40 true
/pause 800
/message "As much as you wish you could help Krobus, Marlon looks like he may be in danger.#$b#You whisper an apology to Krobus before following Marlon. "
/pause 150
`

vernal crest
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Usually it means you misunderstood the movement commands or they're just being weird and you have to try other ones or try adding pauses, stops, and other sneaky things

worldly wadi
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THE LIL JUMP

autumn tide
worldly wadi
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BOIOIOIOIIOIOIOIOIOIOIOOIOIOIOIOIOING

autumn tide
worldly wadi
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SO CUTE

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I LOVE IT

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BOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOING

vernal crest
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Correct me if I'm wrong ichor but that's not the right use of simultaneous commands is it

autumn tide
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it was a glitch but BOING

worldly wadi
vernal crest
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Ok I found the issue. You can't move Krobus on the X and y axis at the same time

autumn tide
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i didn't know

vernal crest
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It does explain on the wiki

autumn tide
vernal crest
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But you are not the first person to miss it

autumn tide
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that's good haha

tiny zealot
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actually i think this is very close to, if not 100%, correct use of SimultaneousCommand

autumn tide
tiny zealot
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however!

vernal crest
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Well that's good to know

autumn tide
tiny zealot
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the reason krobus starts running during the jump is because your pause following the simultaneous is not long enough

vernal crest
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I've never had an issue using jump and emotes without simultaneous command

autumn tide
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eh, i like the BOING

tiny zealot
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if you wanted him to wait until the emote is done, which is probably long enough to land from the jump, i would try removing the true in the emote command

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or simply lengthen the pause, whichever suits your fancy

vernal crest
autumn tide
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yup, can't do both X and Y in the same move thingy

vernal crest
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Cool just making sure you didn't miss it

tiny zealot
autumn tide
vernal crest
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By the way, don't do too much before you i18n the dialogue in the event. It can be a real pain having to go back later.

autumn tide
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oh, okay

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good idea

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hehhhhhh softlocked my game- SDVpufferchickcry

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idk how yall stay sane-

vernal crest
vernal crest
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I'm just extremely slow in general haha

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I started Hiria more than a year ago and she's about a third done, if that

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I got distracted by making other mods, most of which also are not done

autumn tide
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but add a lil hyperfixation too haha

tiny zealot
vernal crest
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Shall we give CA benefit of the doubt and say it's one of the ones added back when he thought no one was even going to play the game let alone needed to interpret his game code lol

vernal crest
autumn tide
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luckily i don't get it more than once a year but it goes BRRRRRRRRRR

vernal crest
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Actually, it's not just me. A lot of the modders we've seen come through here who were hyperfixating have disappeared now.

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It's not very sustainable. But for a lot of people it doesn't have to be and that's okay. I want to hang around for at least a few more years though.

autumn tide
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prolly a good idea-

vernal crest
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I think loving a thing obsessively for a while and moving on is a valid way to enjoy things. It's how I play video games haha

little field
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Me with FFXIV

tiny zealot
autumn tide
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is it good?

atomic bay
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could somebody help me, i tried adding new fish via cp, and that fish should can be caught at the top of the volcano, what's the location id i have to use

vernal crest
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Don't know off the top of my head but you can search in data/locations for it

calm nebula
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Caldera

vernal crest
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That's a town in Morrowind (as well)

atomic bay
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also does somebody know the id for keg and preserves jar

tiny zealot
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!unpack

ocean sailBOT
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Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.
uncut viper
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the problem is the farmer is a different C# class than NPCs, and only the NPC class has the functionality for text above head built in. it'd be like trying to squeeze apple juice from an orange. id have had to reimplement the entire behavior from scratch to make it work on the farmer, which means redoing the whole update loop and draw loop myself. very very out of scope for BETAS

vernal crest
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There's also the Stardew IDs site but I forget the command for it

hard fern
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!vanillaids

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w

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!itemid

ocean sailBOT
craggy nest
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Does anyone know off-hand where in the game assets the sprites for the in-game clock display (the one in the upper right hand corner) are located? I've been searching for like ten minutes now lol

autumn tide
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hmm check cursors?

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yup, it's there! top right

craggy nest
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thank you so much SDVpufferheart

tame burrow
autumn tide
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..gonna keep testing my event hehhhhhh wish me luck

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..whoops

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gentle rose
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for anyone who like me has to be very cautious about hyperfixations, the difference I found tends to be the sense of community

autumn tide
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oh absolutely, it's a lot better with acess to community here :)

autumn tide
# autumn tide ..whoops

how can i fix this? idk why it's not showing my text from my i18n file, VS code is also angry at my i18n entry things so it's prob an issue with that

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brittle pasture
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what’s your i18n file like

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I’m guessing it doesn’t have the mod id part

autumn tide
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uuh lemme see

brittle pasture
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(you don’t need {{ModId}} in your i18n keys, it’s already only local to your mod)

autumn tide
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nope, it does,

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oh?

brittle pasture
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does it have your mod ID or literally the {{ModId}} string
in any case pls just post it

autumn tide
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sure, uhh should i send the event file or i18n or both?

uncut viper
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when in doubt it never hurts to send everything that is relevant

autumn tide
uncut viper
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(in the validator)

autumn tide
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OH

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wait where's that?

uncut viper
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!json

ocean sailBOT
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JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.
autumn tide
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tyyy

uncut viper
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you cant use tokens in i18n keys

autumn tide
uncut viper
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clarification: you can use tokens in the key in the event file, not in the i18n file

autumn tide
brittle pasture
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yeah the {{ModId}} in your i18n doesn’t get turned into your mod id, it just remains as is

uncut viper
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i18n is not a CP thing and CP does not actually touch the i18n folder whatsoever. its a SMAPI thing

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CP's i18n token just asks SMAPI for your translations

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and SMAPI does not do CP tokens

brittle pasture
autumn tide
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(i have no ideas what the differences are)

brittle pasture
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and make sure the two keys match

autumn tide
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okay, so remove it from both?

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tysm :))

craggy nest
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For any of the harmony wizards in here- do harmony patch priorities (set using using harmony method annotations) exist only within the context of a single mod, or across all loaded mods?

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Such that if I have a postfix I want loaded before another mod's postfix on the same method, it will load my postfix first if I indicate higher priority

uncut viper
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all mods, and you can set a priority to be before or after a specific harmony id

craggy nest
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great, thanks a bunch SDVpufferheart

uncut viper
craggy nest
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so if I want to specifically reference another mod's patch, would it be written using that mod's namespace, like [HarmonyAfter(["namespace.class.patchmethod"])] ? or do I need to somehow reflect the other mod's method to reference it?

uncut viper
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you just write whatever ID the other mod passed into its harmony constructor

craggy nest
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excellent, thank you

little field
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Do yall get like super excited to work on you mod and end up having 80 million ideas and wanting to do them all?

autumn tide
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YES

autumn tide
little field
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XD

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Nothing! I was just curious!

fast plaza
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If it's just a farming mod you probably don't need to worry about how it interacts with fishing and if it's a fishing mod you don't need to worry about how it interacts with farming. If it's both then you need to worry about both, yknow?

little field
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I get it, my mod is mostly heavily narrative based Shyowobear

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I get carried away with all the plot lines I wanna do but then it'd be like way too long and complex to implement

fast plaza
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Fair enough. It's good to be ambitious though!

warped raven
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Hello, I was wondering if there was a way to simulate a networked multiplayer game on a single computer (without virtual machines) for mod testing purposes. I fully expect the answer to be "no", but still have a tiny sliver of hope that there might be a way to do it out there.

fast plaza
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I mean, you can always just launch the game twice, host a game and connect using 127.0.0.1

calm nebula
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Yes

warped raven
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😮 I assumed there was no way that would work

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Thanks, I'm going to try that

fast plaza
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Gl!

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Huh. Someone just submitted a bug report saying my mod has a fatal crash when played in split-screen mode

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... Stardew has a split screen mode??

calm nebula
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Yes

lucid iron
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Yeah it's the local co-op button

gentle rose
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it's kind of an annoying one to support ngl SDVpuffersquee

fast plaza
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Yeah sounds like it'll be a fun thing to figure out... I'm not even sure if I can do that.

gentle rose
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I do way more compat work for split screen in my mods than I do for network multiplayer but that's because I never touch anything that needs to be propagated

gentle rose
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there's a page on it in the wiki

fast plaza
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Ok! Il have a look

latent mauve
gentle rose
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yup

fast plaza
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That said I think I'm prob gonna take a small break from modding for a bit cuz I had a couple of stress dreams about waking up to like 20 messages telling me I corrupted people's save data or something

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That fix may have to wait cuz I've been doing nothing but working on the mod for like a week straight and maybe I shouldn't do that

gentle rose
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oh wow, yeah please take a break then!

latent mauve
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You could always temporarily add a spot in your mod description that says Split Screen is currently not compatible.

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And deal with it later.

fast plaza
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Yeah probably a good idea

gentle rose
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not worth having stress dreams over

fast plaza
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I think also somehow my mod managed to send people's bank account details to ISIS too? That was a weird part of the dream

warped raven
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(I confirm that the just-run-the-game-twice solution works 👍 )

fast plaza
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Ayyy awesome

latent mauve
fast plaza
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Thanks! Il bear that in mind for when I do get workin on it again!

latent mauve
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(you can also just type modding:PerScreen in the search bar on the official wiki and it'll pop up those pages for you as results)

crude plank
late gull
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Weird, I ended up coding ui and zoom descaling into my smapi mod by banging my head on my keyboard enough times

shut edge
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feeling sick today so i might do something weird and >play< stardew

calm nebula
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(Playing isnt weird! It's a great game.)

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(I'm just old and weird)

shut edge
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same

late gull
crude plank
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there you go

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it looks very cool

late gull
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Thank you!

red egret
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wooho, finally Iman cant complain PT is missing an arcade

little field
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I love arcades! This looks so radical!

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I wanna work on my mod after I get off work but it's raining outside and that's peak napping weather DeerSleep

late gull
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I'm gonna play gears of war or something tonite, I am so over playing arcade games after making that lol

leaden fjord
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Hey everyone! I was just wondering if a custom bachelor mod exists? I’d like to make one of the bachelors look like my partner :)

hallow prism
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there are several, but to have what you want you need to make the mod yourself, or commission it/part of it

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!commissions

ocean sailBOT
hallow prism
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my advice would be to learn basic of mod making, see if you like that or not, then if you do like it at least a bit, then consider commissioning someone for the art. Commissioning someone for the whole mod would be pretty expensive and also probably quite difficult in this case

shut edge
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i don't suppose there's a tool to try and figure out what mods are slowing your game down the most?

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i'll try disabling chunks at a time for now i suppose

crude plank
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Profiler

gentle rose
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profiler

shut edge
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ah ok thanks

crude plank
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there's a new version

shut edge
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rad

leaden fjord
shut edge
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if you just want a visual change you can just redo the art as you want and apply that

gentle rose
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wdym? there are a lot, and there are also plenty of mods that add new bachelors

shut edge
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they would still have the same name and dialog etc

leaden fjord
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I’m new to this game lol sorry

shut edge
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i would say just look for an existing mod that does the NPC you want to change and see how it does it

crude plank
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i think that's what they want to do and are asking what mod does that so they can look at it

leaden fjord
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Yeah 😭😭😭 I’m completely new so I know nothing about modding or changing things

ornate locust
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I know they exist, but I'm afraid I couldn't tell you any of them in particular

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let me try some search terms...

leaden fjord
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Thank you!!!

ornate locust
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Oh got one

ocean sailBOT
leaden fjord
crude plank
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uhm

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no

ornate locust
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No, wait. That's an XNB mod

crude plank
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this is XNB

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don't try that

ornate locust
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yeah thanks for the warning, Governor

crude plank
lucid iron
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If it's visual only then you are basically just make a portrait mod

crude plank
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i'm asuming sprites as well

ornate locust
little field
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For people who've published mods, were you nervous when you first released it?

crude plank
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yes

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it goes away mostly after the first time

lucid iron
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Yeah when I published my first mod i was panik

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And 'i shouldn't be allowed to post things on the internet ever again"

ornate locust
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i swear, I forget there's still XNB mods out there. The Old Ways

little field
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I guess I get worried that I put in the work and it's like

What if they don't like it?
What if it breaks their other stuff?
What if I don't get 80 millions downloads in the first 4 hours!?

ornate locust
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well, that's why you make a mod for you and then if people like it, awesome

lucid iron
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Breaking ppl's stuff is inevitable

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Just fix it ez

ornate locust
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Even if a ton of people don't like it, there'll be one guy who's super excited you did it

crude plank
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and sometimes that guy is you and that's perfectly fine lol

lucid iron
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Always rmbr that

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-# THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT.

leaden fjord
little field
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Honestly I'm glad I got the rooms figured out finally. I was so worried the main mechanic I needed for my mod wasn't going to cooperate dread

ornate locust
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I made a mod to make the fish plaque smaller for me and released it and one guy was like "YES THIS" and that was a great bonus.

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when I was a teenager, I had a mod go super turbo big and it was the biggest headache, I have learned to appreciate the one guy super jazzed about a smaller fish plaque

little field
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I do D&D and for the last 4-5 years I've been creating a world with my friend it's just been us two and I write all the time and I've always wanted to share stories with people.

So I got inspired to write one for SVE Shyowobear

patent lanceBOT
gentle rose
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TIL about Lazy<T>. prepare to see it in everything I write from now on

little field
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What's that?

gentle rose
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c# thing that allows you to easily create lazy loading things

little field
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Ooh

brittle pasture
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yeah I saw it being used in a couple places in the codebase (how I learned about it)

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pretty convenient

gentle rose
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I always do mine in the property with underlying private field and ??= way

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which isn't ideal

calm nebula
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Hot take your way is fine

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The only thing a lazy buys you is laziness and thread sanity

gaunt orbit
gentle rose
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it feels wrong from a writing pov SBVLmaoDog idk why

gaunt orbit
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Well there's always the sourcegen thing I made if you don't want to see it :P

uncut viper
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when i released my first mod i was not nervous bc i pre-emptively put myself in the "fuck all y'all i can do what i want" mindset just in case (note: there was no "y'all" in particular. i was not active in this discord or any other modding discord.)

crude plank
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Brave button

fast plaza
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That's a good mindset to have

shut edge
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yeah i just do mine as a hobby / to get out the intrusive thoughts demanding i put x into stardew

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it's cool when people wanna collab or cross-support

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it's also just decent brain exercise

fast plaza
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Definitely

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I like figuring out how to add stuff with harmonylib cuz unless you wanna go all in on a transpiler it's kinda a puzzle figuring out how to make it all work

little field
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Harmony made me cry HBrehSad

fast plaza
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It so fun though

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Funny code injection button go brrrr

grand lantern
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Question if i may!

Im working on a mail based mod, and when executing trigger actions, is there any real difference when using "When" or "Condition"? I was told condition can give me times where a mail is immediately added which is not neccessary for my mod specifically. Is there any sort of benefit to using one or the other, or preference?

little field
calm nebula
ornate locust
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It can really burn out the fun if you worry too much about other people liking it. If you're your main target audience, then you at least get what you want out of it

calm nebula
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No literally

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Spinlock

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(But only if gmcm options was installed)

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Annndddd it was reported to automate of all mods

ornate locust
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LOL of course

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user ability to identify what mod is causing a problem is not fantastic

crude plank
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atra what was your first mod?

fast plaza
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Aw man I really hope I haven't caused any problems with other peeps mods

crude plank
fast plaza
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Awesome haha

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I hope it stays that way!

crude plank
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me too lol

fast plaza
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How often do you get bug reports from other people's mods?

urban patrol
ornate locust
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depends on the mod for me. I get them tons on a mod that's just a texture

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it's the mod LEAST POSSIBLE to make any of the bugs, but it's the one people decide is doing it the most

calm nebula
twilit quest
crude plank
urban patrol
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Condition takes GSQs only i'm pretty sure; someone can correct me if i'm wrong

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hence why you can't use HasFlag in a condition for example

shut edge
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somehow for the first time i can't find any (new) prismatic shards wtf

ornate locust
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Er wait

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I think Condition can take tokens...

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unless I'm hallucinating half my triggers working

urban patrol
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i'm going off the wiki for trigger actions, but if there's something else lmk!

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oh let me see

ornate locust
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True and False are valid GSQs so it says content patcher tokens work IF they return true or false

urban patrol
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oh yes you can convert a token into a GSQ like that

ornate locust
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okay whew, I was worried for a second LOL

unique tusk
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Does anyone have the coding for Robins lost axe quest? I unpacked Stardew Valley but can't find it SDVpufferwaaah

twilit quest
latent mauve
calm nebula
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They dont exist

ornate locust
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You can use a SEASON_DAY and a year

urban patrol
brittle pasture
ornate locust
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There's also Date_Ra-

brittle pasture
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beaten SDVpufferwaaah

ornate locust
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beat twice

urban patrol
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i win!

latent mauve
brittle pasture
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but yeah I recommend DATE_RANGE, the other ones are exact dates

unique tusk
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Uhhhh which one is 100,,

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urban patrol
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it’s in Data/Quests

unique tusk
brittle pasture
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you’re in Data/Events

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look at the top

unique tusk
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CRIES IM SO SORRY

autumn tide
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helloooo I’ve decided I’m not struggling enough with the stupid event I’m working on, and I want to animate krobus to morph into the shadows of a tree in the bckg, how might i do this? Like maybe make a new row of morph-y sprites for him? And use animate during the event?

fast plaza
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You're too deep into the backwoods. Get out while you still caaaan

gaunt orbit
autumn tide
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hmm okay

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i also would like to use morph-y sprites in the future for Krobus, (so they can spend their day curled into a little ball like they always dreamed of)

ornate locust
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I think Eli does something kinda like that

twilit quest
urban patrol
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yeah it’s easier than checking multiple

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and you can set the range to be as short as you want anyway

twilit quest
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So SPRING 2 1 SPRING 2 1

unique tusk
shut edge
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what actually changes that 40 number with informant?

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i feel like iv'e grown and shipped plenty of these

crude plank
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that's not the shipping decorator

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it's this one

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shut edge
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oh is that what it is

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ok thanks that was buggin me lol

fast plaza
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So like. How common is it to get bug reports that are actually cuz of other people's mods?

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Ya boi do be paranoid that ill end up annoying a bunch of people by accident

ornate locust
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Here's the thing

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users have no ability to tell what caused a problem, so they'll just strike out at whatever mod first catches their mind

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There's nothing you can do to cause it or stop it

shut edge
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it's also impossible to predict every mod interaction ever

ornate locust
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Like I get reports on a texture mod because people can see the texture not showing up. But the problem is with the mod that APPLIES textures.

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but a user doesn't know any better, so they report it to me instead of them and I have to forward them on

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Generally speaking, the person who it gets reported to can have a look and figure out who's causing it or what sort of thing would cause it and pass on the user in the right direction

fast plaza
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Welp maybe it's a good sign I haven't got anything passed along to me yet then!

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Hopefully that's not gonna jinx things but we'll see

crude plank
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i think you already fixed the big and very common incompatibilities, anything else will be more niche

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so it won't affect most users

autumn tide
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hey uh, said this earlier but didn't get a clear response so gonna paste it: helloooo I’ve decided I’m not struggling enough with the stupid event I’m working on, and I want to animate krobus to morph into the shadows of a tree in the bckg, how might i do this? Like maybe make a new row of morph-y sprites for him? And use animate during the event?

calm nebula
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Can't you use the changesprite command

autumn tide
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did not know that was a thing

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how might i go about that?

unique tusk
ocean sailBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 15 C# mods and 4 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

unique tusk
uncut viper
royal stump
crude plank
calm nebula
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Gima used to get every single "why npc no follow schedule" I swear

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Ie, some random mod deletes Caroline's spring schedule and crashes the game? Reported to me

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Mod re-implementrd all of game1.update (no really) but did it wrong? Reported to me.

brittle pasture
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I get every machine mod bugs reported to me SDVpufferwoke

royal stump
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"my textures/npcs/etc broke but i removed [framework req'd by 30 mods] and it fixed it"

crude plank
shut edge
#

most of my comments seem to be asking for support for other mods

#

which if it's easy enough then sure i do that

royal stump
#

SDVpufferdizzy only got one of those recently, treating the comments like a general sdv forum

#

(I try to just help anyway, generally, but "mobile crashes every 5 days" w/o log is a mystery)

calm nebula
#

Meanwhile shit that was actually my fault gets reported to Pathos

#

Which

#

Well

#

Will make you want to disappear

calm nebula
royal stump
#

to be expected with a lot of games, really

gaunt orbit
calm nebula
#

(One of the ones that changed the clock speed.)

gaunt orbit
#

Yikes

lucid mulch
#

I get all the "why is content patcher slow" comments at least

royal stump
#

(took me a moment to realize that probably wasn't me) (I just™ prefix a method out of it)

calm nebula
#

Tbh I went from "i will not provide compat with mods that copy large swaths of game code in a prefix false" to "I'm abandoning all my mods, byeeee" reeaalll fast

lucid mulch
#

I probably dont and many go to pathos directly, but I dont dare go near the cp post thread

gaunt orbit
#

I used to think cp was the culprit for my 10m lag spikes but I'm beginning to wonder if it might be trigger action abuse

shut edge
#

is that like that thing where recipies online get comments like "i subbed x y and z for q r and v and it sucked"

gentle rose
#

I'm currently taking a break from my portrait mod to update map event markers to modernity and ngl it's a wonder I didn't get more bug reports

uncut viper
calm nebula
#

I spinlocked the game lol

lucid mulch
royal stump
lucid mulch
#

I need some real world logs to test the latest profiler build and new site

lucid iron
#

esca what if u make SVE change to new system

#

rip that bandaid off

uncut viper
#

Esca dont you have a UpdateTicked trigger

royal stump
#

I haven't done anything with SVE in, uh, a year?

lucid iron
royal stump
#

EMP has a one second update trigger, but I quickly decided the ticked trigger was bad

lucid iron
#

yea i mean convert sve FTM pack

uncut viper
#

like swapping from a 50-cal to a hunting rifle

lucid iron
#

so u can get maximum number of beta testers trust

lucid mulch
#

there was one log I saw recently where they had a 50ms penalty every timechanged/warp due to the EMP GSQ token

royal stump
#

SDVpufferthinkblob wonder what trigger that was, but ig I can't properly test for worse PCs than mine, so it could have issues in general

gaunt orbit
#

So what I'm hearing is we need a mod to compile trigger actions to cil

#

/jk

lucid iron
#

arent tractions already cached somewhat

gaunt orbit
#

In case that wasn't obvious

lucid iron
#

thers a CacheTriggerAction thingy

gaunt orbit
#

Only the action delegates I believe

lucid iron
#

maybe if we had that for the gsq too

uncut viper
#

the c onditions are also somewhat cached i thought

brave fable
uncut viper
#

yeah theres a cache of parsed GSQs

gaunt orbit
#

Huh, neat

royal stump
# lucid iron yea i mean convert sve FTM pack

I still haven't actually done anything about porting FTM packs to CP assets, though that's in the to-do pile
some stuff might not auto-convert 100%, like the "fake-serialize this & also expire after X nights" setting

shut edge
#

i get messages asking me to fix fae gate cuz it added some of my animals to it's support list lol

royal stump
#

so far it's just a separate system of triggers with a ton of settings

shut edge
#

i even DID post a fix and no comments on if it works for anyone smdh

lucid mulch
ocean sailBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.22631.0, with 291 C# mods and 1078 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

gaunt orbit
#

I still get bug reports for custom npc paintings because the author put a giant obnoxious popup in that mentions hhd every time you switch location

royal stump
#

I have written some silly caching for tile conditions (the GSQ equivalent for deciding where to spawn stuff), but there's only so much you can optimize tile property checks

#

ultimately I'll probably underclock my CPU or something to see if I can fix stuff when it's ready

uncut viper
#

thats already so much further than id be willing to go to test a mod so better you than me

shut edge
#

fr

royal stump
#

I just happen to have an app that does that or I wouldn't bother either SDVpuffersquee had overheating issues when this PC was first assembled

craggy nest
#

there is no penance I can do that'll make up for the amount of bug-reports from my mod that have been sent other mod author's way

#

sometimes you just gotta make peace with it

calm nebula
lucid mulch
#

I should see about adding that to speedy solutions to just turn off the cache clearing and see how much crimes happen

uncut viper
#

thats decent i think but could be better maybe

#

better than nothin

lucid mulch
#

vanilla needs to actually care about memory usage particularly on old consoles/mobile

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modded PC doesn't need to care nearly as much

gaunt orbit
uncut viper
#

i feel like 50 is still a bit low though

gaunt orbit
#

Real answer is idk but probably a lot

uncut viper
#

but idk i dont hav the numbers

gaunt orbit
#

I have 1000+ mods and several of those are expansions

calm nebula
# gaunt orbit Yes

Yeah, I've noticed a stutter in CP when you either have large n npcs or large n mailflag

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You have large n npcs

uncut viper
#

why large n mailflags

gaunt orbit
#

I mean, not that many, since I don't have rsv or a full roster for scarp, but the mailflags could definitely be a thing

lucid mulch
#

one day I'll have a late game modded 1.6 save to properly analyze some of the stock CP tokens, but only got early game ones and I'm anti social ingame so relationship token isnt working too hard

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but I do need new test subjects that will run profiler/speedy solution alphas and give me juicy logs to analyze

drowsy pewter
#

have you recruited in modded farmers yet

lucid mulch
#

last time I poked my head into modded farmers they were talking about tortillas

patent lanceBOT
calm nebula
#

Tbh I've been meaning to override getcharacterbyname to the atracore cached version

gaunt orbit
#

I use my main instance to stress-test my own mods :P

lucid mulch
#

as do I, I just dont play much anymore

gaunt orbit
#

Yeah, I don't play much, but more than I did for a while

calm nebula
gaunt orbit
#

Like ingame 1-3 days per irl week

lucid mulch
#

knowing people like myself or scarlett, infinite is a more appealing number to 1000

#

and easier to override the method to disable the entire mechanism than a transpiler to change the constant

calm nebula
#

Oh come on it's a trivial transpilwe

lucid mulch
#

a skipping prefix is easier to write

gaunt orbit
#

Couldn't you use a destructive transpiler to rip out the whole branch

gaunt orbit
lucid mulch
# 
internal static void Update()
{
    if (Game1.ticks >= GameStateQuery.NextClearCacheTick)
    {
        if (GameStateQuery.ParseCache.Count > 50)
        {
            GameStateQuery.ParseCache.Clear();
        }
        GameStateQuery.NextClearCacheTick = Game1.ticks + 3600;
    }
}

a skipping prefix is a lot easier on this than a transpiler to get that 50 or 3600

crude plank
uncut viper
#

you could do that transpiler in like, one non-minified line of code

crude plank
lucid mulch
#

yes

#

the content pack tells profiler to track more stuff than just the SMAPI event loop or what other mods voluntarily add (like CP now), while the new 3.0 features for GC, and draw/update time are separate anyway

crude plank
#

yup, just making sure i have everything set up right

#

since i haven't been keeping up with the latest changes

lucid mulch
calm nebula
uncut viper
calm nebula
#

Hi bluebs! Long time no see

#

Have you made tortillas

brave fable
#

don't talk to me about cooking

calm nebula
#

I found these wonderful, wonderful pink okra I'm excited to plant

crude plank
tiny zealot
gaunt orbit
# tiny zealot wtf lmao

So the whole story behind this goes something like this:

  • HHD replaces the catalogue shop menu completely with its own implementation
  • CNPCP works by adding a new button on top of the shop menu when it's the furniture catalogue
  • CNPCP author gets people asking for compat, because the mod only detects the regular catalogue menu and not the custom one
  • the author "solves" this by adding an optional keybind to their config that can open the menu
  • people are confused by this
  • author adds a discrete popup message on the side message feed, asking users to set a keybind if it detects hhd is installed
  • users get confused and set all of the hhd keybinds instead.
  • the message doesn't go away and they report it to me as a bug
  • author sees people getting confused and decides the solution is to not reword the prompt but to change it to a dialogue box that opens onscreen every time location changes
  • number of bug reports to hhd increases
  • I get fed up and add a button myself that opens the menu via reflection (bc the mod has no API)
  • message the author and say "hey, it's integrated, please remove the message" (2 mo ago)
  • author responds "okay yeah I'll do that next update"
  • no update since june
soft lance
#

hi everyone!!

generally speaking, how can I add an item that is like the Green and White Algae, like how when you fish up, you get Algae, but instead my own thing. Do they work similar to fish, but with the same, or different category, but are caught instantly? If it's just like adding fish data, how is it caught instantly? What do you recommend for this? Like for instance, let's say I wanted to add Orange Algae, how would I go about doing that? Same as other fish? I'm very new to this

And I appreciate it if anyone can tell me!! SDVpufferparty

gaunt orbit
#

so you would create your item by loading the spritesheet and adding it to Data/Objects, then edit location data for where you want it to appear and reference it by ID in the fish list

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oh farm computer is dead right now

urban patrol
lucid mulch
gaunt orbit
#

I just figured it would be more respectful to ask first

drowsy pewter
#

I mean, I think its fair to chew them out a little

lucid mulch
#

though I thought nexus had a policy on mods calling out other mods in a user facing way, but can't find it

gaunt orbit
#

I know some platforms ban mods which intentionally break things when specific mods/users are present, although I don't recall if nexus is one of those

drowsy pewter
#

pathos has a rule against that

lucid mulch
#

considering historical skyrim drama I thought there was a nexus policy on it

gaunt orbit
#

so maybe no snark in trace

ornate locust
#

Historical minecraft drama too

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Minecraft was the worst for that

calm nebula
#

Historical drama in general lol

brave fable
gaunt orbit
ornate locust
#

YEP

gaunt orbit
ornate locust
#

booby trapping your mods, just the wildest thing

gaunt orbit
#

anyways. hopefully that update comes soon and I stop getting bug reports

uncut viper
soft lance
brave fable
# lucid mulch though I thought nexus had a policy on mods calling out other mods in a user fac...

oh while you're around, someone sent me a log that includes some SSS errors Failed to store cache entry for ... .tmx files from RSV/E&D if you're interested.
https://smapi.io/log/583e2c8718a64a408f4571bd5a51d9b0?Levels=error~critical
doesn't seem related to the 'SMAPI fixed maps loaded by this mod to prevent errors' message, which is instead pointing to BuildMoreCellars -> Maps/Cellar (loaded without a required tilesheet)

ocean sailBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 201 C# mods and 461 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

brave fable
#

ah it's on your posts page nevermind

#

i only checked the bug reports page

lucid mulch
#

I think those are already reported to the respective mod authors.
they have an invalid map property that vanilla silently ignores, but blows up when reserializing the map

# 
 <properties>
  <property name="Light" value="143 26 4 126 22 4 118 26 4 111 26 4 100 26 4 121 41 4 107 41 4 124 49 4 135 49 4 108 53 4 114 53 4 87 85 4 81 85 4 80 100 4 87 110 4 8 61 4 50 121 4 9 119 4 37 56 4 51 42 4 56 36 4 46 27 4 65 18 4 79 16 4 89 26 4 95 14 4 101 6 4 93 1 4 79 54 4 79 62 4 88 57 4 85 62 4 94 57 4 91 62 4 72 57 4 73 52 4 70 14 4"/>
  <property name="NightTiles">AlwaysFront 143 26 908 AlwaysFront 126 22 908 AlwaysFront 118 26 908 AlwaysFront 111 26 908 AlwaysFront 100 26 908 AlwaysFront 121 41 908 AlwaysFront 107 41 908 AlwaysFront 124 49 908 AlwaysFront 135 49 908 AlwaysFront 108 53 908 AlwaysFront 114 53 908 AlwaysFront 87 85 908 AlwaysFront 81 85 908 AlwaysFront 80 100 908 AlwaysFront 87 110 908 AlwaysFront 8 61 908 AlwaysFront 50 121 908 AlwaysFront 9 119 908 AlwaysFront 37 56 908 AlwaysFront 51 42 908 AlwaysFront 56 36 908 AlwaysFront 46 27 908 AlwaysFront 65 18 908 AlwaysFront 79 16 908 
AlwaysFront 89 26 908 AlwaysFront 95 14 908 AlwaysFront 101 6 908 AlwaysFront 93 1 908 Front 70 14 507</property>
  <property name="Outdoors" type="bool" value="true"/>
 </properties>

one of those map properties are not like the others

#

TMXTile doesn't deserialize that well and makes the map property have a null value

brave fable
#

that's bizarre. did they write it directly in a text editor?

#

i ask rhetorically since there's no way you could possibly know

#

speaking of odd warnings, i can't imagine why market town needs to warn for any NPC out of bounds at any given time

image.png
#

probably causing a lot of nuisance for users since the sailorstyles chara spawns out of bounds 5/7 days of the week

lucid mulch
tiny zealot
lucid mulch
#

that and I think they are all used as part of editmap so their map properties in theory are ignored

tender bloom
#

Is it any of my mods? I know where I yoinked mine from

#

Probably

#

Usually town for NightTiles

brave fable
#

well good luck to them if they want the cat to appear at the market. doesn't even have directional sprites

tender agate
#

I've seen an uptick of nighttile issues in tech support

lucid mulch
#

the only 3? I've seen reported are Eli and dylan, RSV and one other

brave fable
#

now if only we had an OpenShop dialogue action i could do away with the tile patch and use repeatable dialogue instead

urban patrol
#

@obtuse wigeon was maybe working on a script to make night tiles easier, which might decrease errors

tender agate
ocean sailBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 223 C# mods and 699 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

gentle rose
#

I've now rewritten most of map event markers to a form that makes me less sad (and also has various less important stuff like improvements and fixes). tomorrow modded map support and testing and then I finally release the update

vernal crest
#

Just in time for me to start collecting mods for another playthrough

gentle rose
#

improvements include not drawing things over tooltips (I know, shocking)

calm nebula
lucid mulch
ornate locust
#

man I swear every Stardew mod I look at has at least one adult rated collection right at the top of the page

lucid mulch
#

considering this months mod of the month has been crushed by nfsw/nsfw-adjacent mods, makes sense

brave fable
#

i'm sure they prioritise them for whatever reason, they were on every single page. anyway even if you had adult mods hidden previously, you need to go into the new settings page and disable them again if you want them gone entirely

ornate locust
#

I mean, I don't, because I've modded stuff like Cyberpunk. So I get to keep seeing them

brave fable
#

ah even with adult mods disabled they still appear if you click 'show all collections'. very cool

gentle rose
ornate locust
#

great, useful feature

#

I just clicked three separate mods that have been around for a while and had totally innocent content and one of them even had ALL adult collections on the top

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even though it was in many more collections

lucid mulch
#

half of the top20 (default page size) sorted by highest rated is marked as adult only, though at least its only 2 of the top 10 (but is #1 and #4)

ornate locust
#

I dunno, maybe there should be something so that someone's mod to add shelves to a wall isn't topped by a bunch of adult mods

#

when you look at their page

brave fable
#

honestly don't know if nexus just doesn't let you set collections as private/unlisted or if people just can't be bothered marking them as private. most of the ones listed here are 'pack for my bf xoxo'

drowsy pewter
#

including like, npc mods with swearing

ornate locust
#

It's not even showing the TOP collections on this one page

lucid mulch
#

I don't get the appeal of collections for stardew when mods are so much more plug and play compared to skyrim, don't have version sensitivities or need heavy config, and that Vortex is bad for stardew

ornate locust
#

it's like it just cherry picked the adult mods to show

calm nebula
#

Sorry

#

I'm exhausted so I'm in stupid jokes mode

#

I'll go away now

lucid mulch
#

8/14 of the collections that have profiler are adult, and top4 sorted by endorsed are adult

vernal crest
#

Lots of people want to just be told exactly what mods to use without any thought or effort of their own

ornate locust
#

But the top four sorted by endorsed for the mod I am looking at aren't the ones it's showing. It's showing less liked adult related ones

lucid mulch
#

and only 3 collections have speedy solution and 2/3 are adult (and was 1/1 and 2/2 at one point iirc)

ornate locust
#

I don't understand how it picks what it shows

brave fable
#

at least give me the option to block my mods from appearing in adult collections or having adult collections appearing on the page

#

lazy & crass

ornate locust
#

I would like the ability to just not show adult collections on a mod page. I would LOVE if it was just in a collapsed pulldown like requirements

drowsy pewter
#

i have complained about the collections tab not being a dropdown

ornate locust
#

put collections in a dang tab

drowsy pewter
#

yall should complain too

lucid mulch
#

at least when not logged in, it doesn't show them at all

image.png
tender agate
#

none of this still makes sense. who shops for collections by looking at a singular mod

lucid mulch
#

For skyrim, I did shop for collections by mod

ornate locust
#

Apparently a poll in the Nexus discord thought this feature was super great

#

so I assume someone liked it

lucid mulch
#

but I used the collections filter pane instead

brave fable
#

users, presumably

tender agate
#

interesting

brave fable
#

absolute creatures

ornate locust
#

true

lucid mulch
#

this might be my hubris, but the only SFW collection I might trust is the singular sfw one that had speedy solutions included

ornate locust
#

I trust zero collections, they are for people who are not me

lucid mulch
#

and the collections that have profiler included lose some points

drowsy pewter
#

its just a fun stat to look at not valuable player info

ornate locust
#

I have never seen a collection that doesn't have something in it I absolutely hate

drowsy pewter
#

The mod DEPENDENCIES are below it

drowsy pewter
#

Its stupid

lucid mulch
#

I get why nexus are more heavily pushing collections, new owner and Collections are a premium only feature

ornate locust
#

Yeah everyone uses dependencies, a portion of people use collections. Why are collections at the top???

calm nebula
#

Someone should make a sfw mod that is 100% moving data around in excel

vernal crest
#

Because collections are what make Nexus money

drowsy pewter
#

but yeah seriously leave a comment on the forums

brave fable
#

it's at least funny to me that sailor styles is mostly listed as being in 'cottage core witch' collections in the banner when it's literally the complete opposite. just stupid fast fashion clothes mixed with clothes from the exact opposite side of the world

drowsy pewter
#

or the discord

tiny zealot
#

(the collection includes a lot of stuff that is perfectly worksafe, including my mod. but)

lucid mulch
#

is there a easy way to do that correlation

brave fable
#

i wasn't aware we could see download breakdowns

tiny zealot
#

well, you can't really

#

i am inferring, because my mod started getting a lot more downloads in the last few months

#

this coincides with the release of the collection

hard fern
#

🤔 you need to be using vortex or something to download collection right?

tender agate
#

or the new nexus app

tiny zealot
#

and it has approximately the number of UDLs as i have gained in that time

hard fern
#

What does it do to mods that dont have the 'download with manager ' button

urban patrol
#

i don't disagree with collections on principle (in fact i think it would be worse if authors had to opt their mods in to collections), but there should absolutely be an opt out for displaying it on authors' own mod pages, NSFW or not

tender agate
#

There should be an author endorsed collections option even for like top 1 or 3

brave fable
#

now that i could get behind

lucid mulch
#

ok I can correlate the reccent large spike in profiler downloads directly to an NSFW pack

image.png image.png
urban patrol
#

wow

lucid mulch
#

cant be bothered to going through the other collections to see if this is why 2025 in general has been much higher than 2024 despite no profiler releases

tender agate
#

crazy, the numbers multiplied

lucid iron
#

Why did they include profiler

lucid mulch
#

I haven't understood profilers data at all

image.png
drowsy pewter
#

profiler makes your game faster because it does obscure code things i dont understand

lucid iron
#

That's the speeb solutions

drowsy pewter
#

just like that mod that makes everything blurry

lucid mulch
#

profiler technically can only make your game slower, but it gives you the insights to make it go faster.
but a collection shouldn't ship it, they should keep it locally to make the collection

#

actually if profiler content packs with traces (why did I call it that) that supress errors, it can actually improve performance by preventing some exception bubbling and error handling from running, but I haven't documented that functionality exists and I haven't seen any evidence that anyone has used the content pack functionality except me

tiny zealot
#

there's a disclaimer in the full description that it doesn't really work for perf anymore, but i think a lot of people don't read that far down

hard fern
#

People barely read the description in the first place

#

No way they scroll down

lucid mulch
#

in theory I think it still has some of sprite masters performance stuff still, but the big ones are just in 1.6 already or broke enough that I think they turned it off instead of fixing

#

the spritemaster codebase scares me, and they did a bunch of fluff reformatting commits fairly early on which makes comparing to spritemaster a bitch

drowsy pewter
#

You can get any mod thousands of downloads just by lying

#

6480's Faster Loading

mod description: enjoy state-of-the-art world-class technology by allowing this mod's placebo effect to shorten load times by as much as 80%! Compatible with SVE.

ornate locust
#

Oh I assume all speed-up mods are like that until proven otherwise

#

I've seen too many where some programmer immediately goes "actually this breaks stuff in ways that you won't realize until your save is bricked"

craggy nest
#

Finally published the mod update

#

now I sleep forever (but not really)

lucid mulch
#

(There is a reason Speedy Solutions was in semi private alpha for 5 months to collect long term data on the safety of the performance improvements)

#

also helps that being the author of Profiler, it automatically gains some credibility

crude plank
tender agate
#

wanted to make a custom tool and was recommended to check out https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/tree/develop/_archived/SleepyEye

Trying to understand it and how it works especially in relation to spacecore
I see only the following reference spacecore:

Mod.cs:

var spaceCore = this.Helper.ModRegistry.GetApi<ISpaceCoreApi>("spacechase0.SpaceCore");
spaceCore.RegisterSerializerType(typeof(TentTool));

TentTool.cs

[XmlType("Mods_spacechase0_SleepyEye")]
public class TentTool : Tool

This is all the spacecore doc says about tools

Custom tool class will work in the vanilla Data/Tools asset, if they are added to the SpaceCore serializer API.

is that it? Or is it too good to be true, it seems too simple.

Also, how would I make my IDE/project understand what the ISpaceCoreAPI type is?

brittle pasture
#

before I answer your question, I want to ask: are you sure you need a custom class instead of just harmony patching GenericTool?

#

if you just use Harmony you won't need SpaceCore and deal with the API/save serialization/etc.

#

(though a custom class is more convenient code-wise)

lucid mulch
#

in terms of using a mod api, would be the same as using GMCM or any other api, you make your own IWhatever that has whatever methods you intend to use from the api copied from the mods repo

brittle pasture
#

(here are the instructions)

tender agate
#

oh thanks

tender agate
little field
#

Quick question, the spouse rooms are 6x9 right?

vernal crest
#

Yup

#

Or at least the inside of them is. If you're moving the entire thing including the tops of the walls that'll be bigger

cyan storm
#

oooooo

vernal crest
#

@oblique meadow do you mind if I DM you about something? (No worries if the answer is no)

oblique meadow
#

Sure. Go for it

gaunt orbit
gaunt orbit
#

That does mean you'll have to edit tool data with c#

tender agate
#

when will I have to use that qualified type name or I don't have to worry about it?

#

my mod is all c# ¯_(ツ)_/¯

gaunt orbit
#

When you edit Data/Tools to register your tool item, one of the fields is the class type for the tool as a string. You would just put in typeof(MyTool).AssemblyQualifiedName for that

tender agate
#

thank you, this is gonna save me so much confusion later SDVpufferheart

little field
#

So question about adding light, I looked over the wiki and I think I did it right. It was kind of confusing but the light isnt illuminated in game. Are the properties wrong?

image.png
vernal crest
#

Are you adding this map as an EditMap?

little field
#

I dont think so

image.png
vernal crest
#

I'm not sure that map properties can transfer from the spouse room map to the farmhouse map. Do they need to be pinpoint lights rather than sconce? If it doesn't matter, you could try adding them using the Paths layer instead.

uncut viper
#

iirc they cannot

#

cannot be transferred to the map properties i mean

little field
#

I added the light onto the layer path, in the wiki it said it could be anywhere but maybe anywhere but the farm house?

latent mauve
#

You have to add any new map properties via code if you are doing an EditMap to patch the farmhouse.

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Also spouse room ignores path lights entirely from what I recall

vernal crest
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It's not about the location the map property is allowed in, it's about the fact that the game patches the spouse room onto the farmhouse map and that doesn't transfer map properties.

little field
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Oooohhhh

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Okay! I getcha now

vernal crest
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If the paths layer lights also don't work like lily said, you might be in a spot of bother.

little field
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Ah okey dokey tyty I appreciate yall

vernal crest
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Did the paths layer lights work?

latent mauve
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Wiki doesn't say it doesn't work, so there's a chance it will

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I went looking at the vanilla spouse rooms just in case, none of them use path lighting, but they do have a path layer for the old NPC standing markers. And most of them use windows/wall sconces that would normally turn on and off, but there's nothing specified in Tiled for those properties, so I am unsure as to if that's automatic when using those tiles or hardcoded.

little field
little field
latent mauve
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A lot of the farmhouse behaviors are hardcoded, so the only way to find out is to try things unless someone with access to a code decompile wants to look.

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The farmhouse is very cursed.

vernal crest
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You could try editing the farmhouse itself to add the lights but you risk that edit yeeting the spouse room

gaunt orbit
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Also: compatibility nightmares

little field
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I finally got the spouse room to work after a week of brain fizz

Imma not push my luck lol

lucid mulch
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@gaunt orbit your #1 problem is Kantrip.ReverseProposals doing some crime in their CP tokens

also still have the german townInterior bug that FIASA causes the first change to townInteriors to go crazy, but that wont be persistant problem.

Also seemingly just have a lot of CP patches that need checking, even if nothing actually happens from it

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ReverseProposals and SweetTokens both

arctic jungle
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Hello I am having some problems making a mod and every time I fix one issue another pops up, currently I have this issue and can't figure out how to resolve it.

When building a solution I get these errors:

The type or namespace name 'IManifest' does not exist in the namespace 'StardewModdingAPI' (are you missing an assembly reference?)
The type or namespace name 'IManifest' does not exist in the namespace 'StardewModdingAPI' (are you missing an assembly reference?)
The type or namespace name 'IManifest' does not exist in the namespace 'StardewModdingAPI' (are you missing an assembly reference?)```

but every where I look online to fix this issue it states to just make sure to include this in my file:
 using StardewModdingAPI;

I have this in my file and it still throws this error, any ideas on how I can resolve this? Thank you!
lucid mulch
brittle pasture
spice inlet
tender agate
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seems to be a lull in here so I'm gonna take the opportunity to ask a tech support thing I just saw

is it me or is this an unique case of smapi and content patcher bugging out and clashing? Wouldn't want to bother pathos but players seem to have done the standard troubleshooting stuff
looks like well-used mods and assets keep being loaded successfully by CP and then being blocked by smapi for some reason?
https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1422451375878701056

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latent mauve
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If you do a search for that particular error in the discord, you will find a previous instance that got resolved by reinstalling SVE (and making sure the old version is deleted first).

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They will probably also need to reinstall DaisyNiko. I was just looking at that issue in modded tech support and they have errors with both

uncut viper
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seems like corrupted or malformed PNGs to me, not any kind of clash. CP doesnt do any image loading at all, SMAPI does the image loading

latent mauve
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Yep, it's an invalid PNG error.

uncut viper
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nothing can be successfully loaded without SMAPI loading it unless a mod pulls in SkiaSharp itself and does it manually

woeful lintel
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how can I use an ISalable as the input in a GSQ in C#?

uncut viper
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wdym as the input

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input as in Target and Input?

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for item GSQs?

woeful lintel
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I mean as in Input:

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uncut viper
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that would be the Input as in Target and Input yeah. you cant. you need an Item

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make one out of its Qualified id

woeful lintel
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should I not rather do salable is Item item && GameStateQuery.CheckConditions(Condition, inputItem:item to make sure it's an item first? Or is that unnecessary? I don't know which classes inherit ISalable

uncut viper
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you could do that too

lucid mulch
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HouseRenovation, PurchasableKeyItem and MovieConcession will be the main ones

woeful lintel
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I see

lucid mulch
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not entirely sure why they have to stay being Not legal items now that we have qualified ids (though all 3 lie about their qualified id being (Saleable) which doesn't exist afaik)

drowsy pewter
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@next plaza Hi casey! Could I request that spacecore's cooking recipe Ingredient Text Override be able to get text from [LocalizedText] ? And could Love of Cooking related PRs be looked at/accepted in the next month-ish? I'm hoping to publish this huge cooking mod in the next month or two and it would be awesome for inter-mod compat to have that integration on release SDVpufferchickegg //esp if its early enough for my beta testers to play with

slow basin
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when making a pet mod do i need to fill out a sheet as long as the one used by vanilla pets (like as many sprites and actions) or can I use less/more

vernal crest
slow basin
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hows it gonna ask me for 9 rows and 4 columns when vanilla has 8 rows and 4 columns

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rude but ight ill figure out more animations

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🤧

vernal crest
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The fact that it says "each farm animal" means it was probably copied and pasted from the farm animals page, so take it with a grain of salt

slow basin
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OOp ok

vernal crest
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But also there are nine for the dog

slow basin
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o_o

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ah i was following cat sheet as base i c i c

vernal crest
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So it looks like the first four rows are used for the walk sprites up down, left right (not in that order) but the rows after that are left for you to define yourself in the data except for frames 28 and 29 which are sleep

woeful lintel
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I am once again in the delicate position of having implemented a feature that I now have to test

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I don't wanna

gentle rose
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just hand it to scarlett SDVpuffersquee she’ll find literally any possible incompat

slow basin
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imma check and see if anywhere has a 'how to make a pet' tutorial im trying to see how its done but am confuzzled

vernal crest
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Have you copied and pasted from vanilla and then tweaked it with your own values?

hard fern
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i might be overthinking it but the data in the concessions file doesn't actually make them real items, does it? it's just for the movie theater stuff?

crude plank
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considering there's mods that make them real items, i'm gonna say they're not

hard fern
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kay

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looking at the data i felt like i was going a bit nuts lol

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well, i dont think ive ever been able to find them in cjb item spawner, and that thing has everything

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🤔 now to figure out how much edibility value these things should have... my nemesis

wheat kelp
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Okay I'm getting really excited about my mod idea. SDVkrobusnaughty

Never written a line of code in my life. Can someone point me towards some videos that can introduce me and maybe explain like I'm five?

vernal crest
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Unfortunately no, we don't have any up to date videos for making mods for Stardew

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If you give me some idea of what you want your mod to be, I can point you to some written resources though

wheat kelp
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Oh, I meant writing code in general. I think y'all use C# last I saw?

vernal crest
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Not most of us, no. Most mods for Stardew are made in JSON using Content Patcher

wheat kelp
vernal crest
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Much, much, MUCH easier

hard fern
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well depends on if your mod needs C# or not

wheat kelp
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I'm so sorry.

vernal crest
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Quests do not require C# unless you intend for them to have features that vanilla quests cannot do

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No need to apologise! This channel is explicitly for help such as this ^_^

wheat kelp
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I haven't decided if I want to create a new NPC, or if I just want the quests to come through the mail.

I definitely need to add a new item.

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Dialogue etc

vernal crest
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Content Patcher mods are much easier to make than C# mods because they almost exclusively require simple data entry rather than writing code.

wheat kelp
vernal crest
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I recommend starting with the new object. That's a fairly straightforward place to start to get you familiar with JSON, Content Patcher, and the wiki.

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I will grab you some links

wheat kelp
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Thank you so much!!

vernal crest
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Using existing mods as examples is also a very good practice, just make sure that they are a) not by someone who says "this is my first mod, I didn't really know what I was doing" on the mod page, b) created or updated mid-2024 or later, and c) NOT a Json Assets/JA mod

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The reason I am suggesting starting with an object is because you can do all the steps to go from no mod to holding the item in your hands in game without having to learn about any other part of the game so you can practice your familiarity with syntax and understanding the concepts before you start having to look at different game assets.

hard fern
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🤔 if i leave a context tag field blank, will it just not context tag

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(not talking about just not adding that part in general)

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im using local tokens to add items and i left 3 slots for myself but not every item im making has 3 context tags

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so i wonder if i can just not write anything and it wont explode

vernal crest
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The token has to exist for every item but it can be "<UnusedToken>": "", in the LocalTokens field. Did that make sense? I'm not sure if that's a good enough explanation on my part.

hard fern
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uhh im a lil confused

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like replace the token in the local token part with that thing for each field i dont use?

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or wait

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....

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hold on

# 
            "Action": "Include",
            "FromFile": "data/Add_Objects.json",
            "LocalTokens": {
                "ITEMID": "BlackLicorice",
                "DISPLAYNAME": "BlackLicorice",
                "DESCRIPTION": "BlackLicorice",
                "PRICE": 25,
                "EDIBILITY": ,
                "DRINKABLE": "false",
                "TYPE": "Cooking",
                "CATEGORY": -7,
                "SPRITEINDEX": 11,
                "TAG_1": "",
                "TAG_2": "",
                "TAG_3": "",
            }
        },
        {``` is the way im doing this fine lol
vernal crest
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Yes that was what I was trying to convey, the way you've got TAG_1 etc

hard fern
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ok

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thanks lol

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good to know i dont need to change anything

slow basin
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im looking at vanilla pets rn but theres so much in there its a little overwhelming sadcat

vernal crest
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If you break it down it's less overwhelming.

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Does that make sense?

slow basin
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yea

wheat kelp
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Where would be the best place for me to catch up on all the character backgrounds and lore up to 1.6 in vanilla? I know there can be an issue with mod dialogue not being in line with existing lore and I'd like to avoid that lol

hard fern
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uhh just poke through the files ngl

vernal crest
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Yup, combination of the wiki and just reading through the files. I prefer to use the wiki for event recaps instead of trying to actually read the event scripts, but I read the Characters/Dialogue/<NPC> file for their general dialogue.

wheat kelp
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Gotcha. Thanks!

slow basin
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do you think the barksound would accept sounds other than cat and dog

woeful lintel
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what's the best way to check if an Item is a wallpaper or a flooring?

vernal crest
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You mean with C# right Leroy?

woeful lintel
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yeah

slow basin
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what would be the best sound for a pillbug 🤔

woeful lintel
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I think I found that there's just the Wallpaper class that matches both

vernal crest
slow basin
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🙂‍↕️

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alright hmm

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i kinda wanna give it one of the weird noises like the oououou noise XD

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oh wait what if i used the rabbit it just makes a little shuffly noise

hard fern
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🤔 maybe something odd im fixated on but would it be weird to add on context tags that arent on an item in vanilla, but i think they should be there? Like JojaCorn is just tagged "Joja" but i want to add "Salty" and "Hot" to it because that's what the regular popcorn is tagged

slow basin
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cold bland popcorn

drowsy pewter
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salty? hot? huh?

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what are these tags for?

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are these movie concession things?

hard fern
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yes

slow basin
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is there a databank for the actual sound of everything do i gotta just trial and error it

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like ik theres a list but i wanna hear it

drowsy pewter
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well you can add context tags to vanilla items but it would be prudent to see if said tags have any actual game effects, and if so, if it should be your mod's job to make that effect different

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as in, if those tags determine npc gift tastes for concessions, then you should make sure your mod says it changes npc's concession tastes, otherwise people would be really confused when their concessions dont match the wiki

hard fern
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well im not changing the concession stuff

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im making them actual items

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aka freeing them from the movie theater prison

drowsy pewter
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so then the context tags have no meaning really

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you can do whatever'

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who is gonna know

hard fern
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😔 me

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i would know...

drowsy pewter
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idk do what you want

vernal crest
slow basin
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yippee

hard fern
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🤔 for textoperations in npc gift tastes can the "Value" value list more than one item?

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like "Value": "Popcorn, Fries" etc

lucid mulch
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one way to find out

vernal crest
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Yes but not with a comma

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And only if you're adding

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The example for Append in the CP docs has it adding two items to NPC gift tastes

red egret
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Would it be possible to make custom frames for my spouse portraits mods like overlays only?

hard fern
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SDVpufferflat ive been up all night making a random mod all because i want my custom npc to love black licorice and i wanted to make use of the vanilla concessions instead of making a one off item that is bound by my npc mod forever

woeful lintel
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what falls in the "equipment" item category?

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also, is there a way to differentiate types of weapons (sword/hammer/dagger) in a GSQ?

woeful lintel
red egret
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and can users choose from many?

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for each picture separately? like an AT

hard fern
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im not sure if AT can do all of that

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🤔

lucid iron
hard fern
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has there been like AT overlays before?

woeful lintel
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damn

lucid iron
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Always fine to just make ur own, depending on the usecase

lucid iron
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Not as nice ux as AT but it'll work PecoWant

woeful lintel
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That's just for a template on how to make custom tabs in storage furniture with FF, so I'm not inventing a new GSQ for that

red egret
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i cant imagine it

lucid iron
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I guess there is another sillier way actually

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It's known that mmap furniture draw layers don't work with AT as in they won't change when bucket

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You can set things up so that the frames are the actual furniture texture (which AT will work on) and then the spouse portrait themselves are draw layer

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That's 3 mods for something u can just do in cp + gmcm tho idk if u want that

red egret
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sounds complicated

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i will probably try something with CP

woeful lintel
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I mean you can also do fun things with FF: make a bunch of frame furniture with a slot setup so you can put portraits in them and they show up behind the frame

red egret
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hmm

woeful lintel
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actually I think I've never tried to put vanilla wall mounted Furniture in a FF slot, Imma try that

red egret
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lets say, i want a pic of Caroline in my home and also of Isla (from my two mods) and i want Isla to have a simple blue frame and Caroline a silver decorated one

vernal crest
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MMAP draw laaaaayers!

red egret
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and i could swap them if i wanted or change for something entirely new

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MMAP or FF, huh

vernal crest
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I used them for player-configurable frames for my animal photos!

red egret
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i havent used either of these frameworks yet

vernal crest
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The background is ~separately~ configurable from the frame!

red egret
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aha but they always have to be the same together?

slow basin
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those r the cutest animal pictures eva

vernal crest
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Oop thank you for reminding me to credit the artist Candy

slow basin
vernal crest
red egret
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mhmm okay so MMAP, right?

vernal crest
red egret
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cool

vernal crest
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Yup!

red egret
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bgs even .. scope creep LOL

vernal crest
# vernal crest

These animal sprites are Elle's Cuter Barn Animals and Elle's Cuter Coop Animals.

vernal crest
red egret
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is this mod somewhere to look at the code?

vernal crest
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Nah, not done yet. But I'll grab you the json and pop it in the validator, just a sec.

red egret
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oh awesome

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then it also shouldnt matter if the pictures have a different size each? As long as the size fits. e.g. 2x3 or 2x2

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(but thats scope creep againnn)

vernal crest
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You probably have to do different patches for different sizes because otherwise they will sit funny

red egret
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mhm

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i will try one only

lucid iron
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I think this way is still config in gmcm tho (im never adding user features to mmap bye)

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That's why AT was involved in my proposal

vernal crest
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Yeah this is just GMCM

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They change as soon as you hit save in GMCM so if you position yourself in the right place before opening the menu you can actually see them changing on the wall (though it's a bit dark from the menu background darkening lol)

woeful lintel
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If you want, I can translate it for FF when you're done with the art (that's one more FF mod in my dependency list)

vernal crest
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But fudge should be able to just tweak the MMAP stuff I share to make it work the way you're suggesting chu by swapping the texture paths

lucid iron
red egret
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I will try only one framework for now

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but ty everyone for the 3 cakes!

woeful lintel
hard fern
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now time for 17 cakes

slow basin
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dear diare

lucid iron
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Mentioning this cus i remembered that vanilla bug, you lose all items if you put a dresser on a table

slow basin
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my bug keeps meolwing at me

vernal crest
slow basin
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i might just leave it cause i put barkoveride true but it still do be meowin XD

lucid iron
red egret
vernal crest
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Okay that'll take me a minute

woeful lintel
lucid iron
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It happens in vanilla cus of the getone call

woeful lintel
lucid iron
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Clones the furni

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If u aren't cloning the furniture like that it should be ok? Dunno

red egret
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oh yes and do i need a sheet of the frames or each has to be in an individual file?

woeful lintel
red egret
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so far i have them like this

woeful lintel
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I can't tell for sure, but that doesn't look very on grid to me

red egret
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wdym? its the same size as the actual portraits, same aligning

swift belfry
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Hi everyone! Do you know if you can access another mod's config from a content.json CP file?

woeful lintel
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Oh, I see, it's centered inside a 32x32, my bad

hard fern
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you can call configs from other mods with that

gray bear
#

FRAMES

little field
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The rooms broke again Goddamn this is driving me crazy Ldizzy

fair aurora
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excuse me
Im a sprite artist, i would like to make my mc or other characters touhou characters, im new

Is that possible?

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i can make the art im saying

swift belfry
vernal crest
fair aurora
gray bear
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short answer: yes, you can make a custom npc

fair aurora
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but what about the mc?

vernal crest
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Minecraft?

fair aurora
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the player character

red egret
vernal crest
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You can give them new hair, clothes, body, whatever you want

gray bear
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oh! you can edit the farmer character, yes

little field
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Couldn't you use Fashion Sense to make changes to the farmer?

fair aurora
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what if i want to do a totla resprite?

gray bear
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anything is possible

fair aurora
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okay, thank you, what would i need to do so?

gray bear
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just make the farmer into a tortilla? uhh, edit some tilesheets really

fair aurora
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cani please get serious answers?

gray bear
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e_stares it'll be the same answer

fair aurora
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okay, thank you

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but like i don't need any program?

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aside from making the sprite

gray bear
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if you want to change how the farmer looks, you need to edit the files in Characters/Farmer

fair aurora
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okay, thank you

gray bear
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!unpack need to do this to have the dimesions right

ocean sailBOT
#

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.
gray bear
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!software do need a program that lets u edit/make art, there are free options

ocean sailBOT
gray bear
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(first link)

woeful lintel
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!CP maybe to explain how to "edit" the files

ocean sailBOT
fair aurora
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i use aseprite usually

gray bear
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that is good!

gray bear
vernal crest
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I go in the other direction usually. If someone comes in who already can draw, better to encourage them to make placeholder art and get that working in game than have them draw all the art, try to get it in game and struggle, then give up having wasted all that time drawing art they won't use.

slow basin
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you get the update key from nexus right from the bar?

gray bear
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mod page

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the url specif

woeful lintel
slow basin
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yee thats the word

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ty

lucid iron
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Then u can dodge the need to getone i think

little field
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Yall I'm a bit stumped. Is there a possible workaround where I can keep my mods plot but not have Morgan live with the farmer? I've been at it for like 10 days now and I don't think I can get the dual housemates mechanic to work unfortunately...

obtuse wigeon
lucid iron
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Maybe do some 600 events too so that farmer has to sleep there to trigger

vernal crest
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Have Morgan warp into the farmhouse with a 0 schedule some days (cursed) and say they just left the house really early on the other days

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A player-configurable, non-moving farmhouse schedule might not be too cursed

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Give them a table and chair sprite and have them studying all day

lucid iron
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Yeah you can have npc schedules in the farmhouse

little field
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So just make a full custom schedule to work around the farmhouse limitation?

lucid iron
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It's cursed only with custom farmhouses

woeful lintel
lucid iron
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Where you don't know map shape

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Global inventory is the thing used by vanilla junimo chests

vernal crest
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Yeah the suggestion for not moving was to avoid custom farmhouse problems

lucid iron
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But it's also just useful for any time you want a inventory (whcih is just list of items) that isn't necessarily associated with a real chest

little field
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I actually didn't know about the NPC schedule thing

woeful lintel
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or I could just copy the inventory over when it's a StorageFurniture

little field
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That's really helpful to know they can have one in the house

vernal crest
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You can't really have a moving NPC schedule inside the house

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Not unless you want to experiment with making every schedule point player-configurable, or many, many auto-detection of different mod patches

little field
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Ah I see

lucid iron
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There's a maid npc bella

vernal crest
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I would personally probably play around with player-configurable schedule points if I felt a great need for them to move because I Do Not See users without FIO

lucid iron
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She lives in the farmhouse's walls

little field
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Man if only I was actually competent at using c# L_Pensive

lucid iron
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But yeah i think it's a lot easier to just have farmer move into the tower

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The map there is (mostly) fixed

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I also dont mind adding whatever it is that you need to have more kids if u wanna just use a dependency blobcatgooglyblep

little field
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I just want Morgan to be adoptable and live in the farmhouse and wholesome slice of life happens sSakiCry

woeful lintel
lucid iron
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Well the adoptable part is done pretty much

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As mentioned u just need to setup the data like that jas example

tiny zealot
lucid iron
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And fire a trigger action to get the Child version of Morgan

little field
hard fern
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Lol the bottom half of that sentence didn't show for me on mobile and it just read
"And fire a trigger action to get the Child"

woeful lintel
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what? "I do not see users without figure it out"? am I having a stroke? I can't make sense of it

lucid iron
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If you use a framework mod then you are not writing C#

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It's just a few lines of json

little field
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Oh

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Okay I may have misunderstood

lucid iron
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Telling the C# mod to do something in certain way basically

gray bear
woeful lintel
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C# is a huge step from CP