making-mods-general

[tired matrix]

is somthing wrong here??

he wont change the outfit when i get in the mines

[brittle pasture]

NPCs reload their appearance when they change locations

so if they already have their appearance determined, you entering the mines won't affect anything

(also, NPCs can't enter mines in the first place. is this for an event?)

[obtuse wigeon]

Trinket Tinker I think?

[brittle pasture]

...oh, I didn't read too closely and thought it's NPC appearances lmao

[obtuse wigeon]

I may be confusing 2 people up however, I'm not 100% certain

[tired matrix]

its a tinker

[brittle pasture]

yeah I figured lol

[tired matrix]

he has one outfit per season, i wanna make him change when he gets in the mines too

[brittle pasture]

hmm I think Mine and SkullCaveonly applies to the entrance levels

[tired matrix]

how would i put this then 😭

[brittle pasture]

try LOCATION_IS_MINES Current and LOCATION_IS_SKULL_CAVE Current

[tired matrix]

simapi doesnt recognize it

[brittle pasture]

can you post your code

those are vanilla queries directly from https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[tired matrix]

u mean the log?

[obtuse wigeon]

no, the code

[brittle pasture]

well both is useful

but yes code

[tired matrix]

https://smapi.io/json/none/713ef459cd1144c88b978ece456f6b4d

Works only on the entrance

Can i do something to make it work in all levels?

[brittle pasture]

I still see PLAYER_LOCATION_NAME Mine in the code you posted

[tired matrix]

Bc i changed to test again

Simapi didnt recognize the other one

[brittle pasture]

well change it back and post both the code and the log

[tired matrix]

Alright

[vernal crest]

Just FYI so it's easier for you to get help: if someone is helping you after you asked for assistance, don't change things that they haven't said to change. It's confusing and makes it hard for them to help you.

[tired matrix]

https://smapi.io/json/none/4b031611b98f41f1a3b95b0f6c832537

[tired matrix]

sorry

[vernal crest]

You don't have to apologise, especially not to me. I'm just letting you know so it's easier for you ^_^

I know it's not always an easy thing for people to recognise on their own.

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah I made an error

replace Current with Here

LOCATION_IS_MINES Here

[tired matrix]

https://smapi.io/log/278288ca68ef421b8525118516794b09

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 18 C# mods and 88 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[tired matrix]

okay let me try

[brittle pasture]

I forgot that LOCATION_IS_MINES take a location param and not the player sorry 😅

[tired matrix]

i dont know these queries confuse me so much😭

[brittle pasture]

[[Modding:Game_state_queries]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[brittle pasture]

very useful reference

[tired matrix]

i was looking from there

WORKS YAY

thanks

[drowsy pewter]

Wow! You found the bug, fixed the bug, and let me know within 19 minutes! From one mod author to another, that's some serious dedication.

Lol, me no-lifing in my nexus notifications pays off

[lucid mulch]

If only I had notifications like that

[gentle rose]

sure, you'll just need them to solve p=np real quick first

[lucid mulch]

Just override the ModRegistry to prevent all other mods loading, and now framerates fine again

[drowsy pewter]

yeah i'm sure pathos would be fine with that

[cedar jackal]

how do i know the fromarea toarea of the townpath and the x and y stuff

[dusky sail]

n=1 and p can be any value there i solved it

[lucid mulch]

fromarea is the region in your source file (FromFile)
toarea is the region on the asset you want to edit (presumably townpath)

in regular pixel coordinates from memory rather than any sprite indexes

[lucid mulch]

I can allow some of pathos's mods to survive the purge if it keeps him happy

[gentle rose]

which ones? or is it nondeterministic

[lucid mulch]

or fingerprint his mod analysis VM and not run when it is detected

which totally isnt malware behaviour

[gentle rose]

no need, just count the number of mods in the registry, and if it's in the five figures, don't run /lh

that way you also won't run for scarlett's regular mod list!

you reminded me I should finally do the optimisation thing I've been putting off... ugh

[drowsy pewter]

whoof, manually splicing about 200 item sprites into various combinations of recipes

and the art for the items themselves hasnt been polished yet, so I'll be remaking all these images right before release

[dusky sail]

A sisyphean task....

[gentle rose]

should have nerdsniped pillow into making you a script to generate them

(/hj)

[drowsy pewter]

it would be a hilariously complicated script

[gentle rose]

best kind

[obtuse wigeon]

does Pillow use the pillow library? pretty sure python is used often so it wouldn't suprise me

[gentle rose]

iirc yes?

[obtuse wigeon]

It's so fitting I love it

[indigo yoke]

looking around, I'll find it eventually but thought to ask just in case: anyone know where the profession tracker is for perfection?

[gentle rose]

wdym by profession tracker?

[cedar jackal]

how do i figure out these coordinates?

[vernal crest]

Easiest way if you don't already have things set up for mapmaking is to use the Lookup Anything or Debug Mode mods while in game

[indigo yoke]

nvm I was making it harder for myself. It checks for farmer level instead of each individual skill level.

[brave fable]

quite possibly my favourite of all my godawful pile of love of cooking bug reports is 'i upgraded my frying pan to maximum and now i cannot cook my food? important issue'

the recipe and ingredients in question:

[drowsy pewter]

the quantity of everything and the house setup just adds to the quality of this

[dusky sail]

Im not sure what you mean. Sushi and sugar and chocolate are perfectly normal ingredients for paella

[brittle pasture]

they might genuinely think the paella is cookable by throwing whatevs into it

idk I’m trying to give them the most charitable interpretation of the description

[obtuse wigeon]

I mean, anything is cookable by throwing anything into it, whether it's good or not is a different matter entirely

[brittle pasture]

my “whatever’s left in the fridge soup” recipe is always good

granted I also usually add two gallon of fish sauce and ten cartons of milk so they taste more like those than the ingredients

[brave fable]

inshallah half a thousand chocolate and sushi burgers paella will feed us for many months

[obtuse wigeon]

I've just noticed in the image that trash isn't greyed out, trash paella anyone?

[drowsy pewter]

when you said you liked fish sauce I didnt realize what you meant by that

[hard fern]

what

I dont even want to know what the ingredients on the right are supposed to create

[dusky sail]

Paella. Obviously (joke)

[drowsy pewter]

broke: anything is a sandwich
woke: anything is paella

[dusky sail]

All you need is rice, saffron, and some sort of fish. If im remembering correctly at least. Then you can add whatever you want

[gentle rose]

you may hear the screams of the spanish but you can just put on noise cancelling headphones to tune those out

[obtuse wigeon]

The day my household owns saffron is the day we win the lottery

[drowsy pewter]

you can own saffron in stardew at least

[obtuse wigeon]

I shall single handedly create a global saffron empire in stardew

[dusky sail]

If you cant afford saffron then just use yellow food dye it does the same thing (no it doesnt)

[tender agate]

spice trade mod :o

[brave fable]

almost wish i added dandelions to the recipe as a rich man's saffron

literally the same thing

[obtuse wigeon]

Dandelions I can easly substitute saffron for, they're everywhere! both IRL and stardew

[obtuse wigeon]

I shall single handedly create a global saffron (fraud) empire in stardew

[drowsy pewter]

mod that adds fake saffron, fake truffle, fake maple syrup, and fake coffee

[obtuse wigeon]

Fake olive oil too

[drowsy pewter]

fake vanilla extract

cant use any of it for anything unless you have cornucopias extended flexible cooking recipes option (now with loc integration!) though

[dusky sail]

But its so much cheaper to buy at pierre's than the real stuff

[obtuse wigeon]

-# Nice little advert edit there 6480

[drowsy pewter]

gotta plug

[gentle rose]

speaking of plugs

6480 have you ever considered making an animated portrait--

[drowsy pewter]

Yeah someone asked me for that yesterday

[gentle rose]

they sound smart, maybe you should do it

[drowsy pewter]

forgot who tho

[gentle rose]

probably not important but you should definitely do it for sure though

[drowsy pewter]

you seem trustworthy

[warped raven]

yep, seems about right

[hard fern]

Huh

[elfin oasis]

I have been affectionately calling this the ammobox.

Does anybody know how vanilla builds it or what it's called? I ended up having to make my own hovertext and hoverbox for a new weapon and I want to use this ammobox in it.

Picture two is my current working implementation

[patent lance]

@lucid mulch: fix cellar tiles going poof in propagation (18h ago)

[hallow prism]

fake butter?

[shut edge]

added milk of myth support for anyone who uses that https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23772

[crude plank]

Margarine

[hard fern]

I cant believe it's not [one out of several butters added by mods]!

[brave fable]

it's simply called attachmentSlot on Slingshot, the same as FishingRod but with an override for the sprite

[elfin oasis]

Thank you!

[elfin oasis]

I am very new to modding so this might be ignorant to ask as a follow up. But what is the path to getting that attachmentSlot?

Currently I am using something like this to find it and try and later place it where I want:

" private static Texture2D TryLoadAttachmentSlot()
{
if (_slotTex != null) return _slotTex;

        var candidates = new[]
        {
    "LooseSprites/attachmentSlot",   // canonical 1.6+
    "LooseSprites/AttachmentSlot",   // case variant (just in case)
    "LooseSprites/attachmentSlots"   // rare variant seen in forks
};"

[gentle rose]

what are you trying to achieve?

I can't really think of why you would need three different spellings of an asset path to be checked

[drowsy pewter]

theres some mod that changes like all of the butter and other names and my mod users keep coming to my comments like "I tried using the whipped cream butter for this quest but it wants the freshly churned yellow butter but my machine is only making salted butter rn help me"

and im like bruh i dont know what any of this means

[lime maple]

hey guys, can anyone help me with a game state query? I want to know if the player has ever seen a mushroom tree

[drowsy pewter]

I dont think thats a vanilla supported gsq

unless chopping specific trees is a stat, if its a stat you can count that

let me see

[lime maple]

maybe an achievement

there is not achievement with mushroom tree

[drowsy pewter]

i dont see something related on the stats list either

[lime maple]

sad that we have PLAYER_HAS_CAUGHT_FISH but no PLAYER_HAS_CHOPPED_TREE

[crude plank]

Tbf for people who use lookup anything that mod is great

Or MCP

[drowsy pewter]

thats all fine and all but i keep getting comments like that and they dont even state that theyre using a renaming mod

like they assume i know everything already lol

[crude plank]

Yeah that's just users being users

[brave fable]

is this AI generated code? there's no asset named LooseSprites/AttachmentSlot, if you've decompiled the game DLL via ILSpy you can search it to find it's using Game1.menuTexture for the attachment slot sprite, which is the asset Maps/MenuTiles

as an aside, you should absolutely decompile the game code to use as a reference, so do mention if you haven't

[elfin oasis]

This is a crucial first step that I have not done. I will do so and get back to this all. Thank you

[obtuse wigeon]

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[obtuse wigeon]

Theres instructions to decompile here /\

[desert light]

Anyone have a good source/example that I could look at to learn how to add a new building with the least dependencies? I'm ok with more difficulty, I just want to have as much control over the building behavior as possible.

[obtuse wigeon]

Unpack the game files, that is by far your best resource

it should be in Data/Buildings I think?

You can also view the wiki for the full list, but formatting may not be as easy to get (I learned that the hard way)

[blissful panther]

Beacuse yeah, buildings require essentially zero dependencies. Only CP if you want to do it via JSON, or you can skip even that and do it manually with C#... but that's less recommended.

Though if you need some C# to add some fun functionality, maybe worth looking at?

[vernal crest]

I was going to suggest MMAP for additional features if vanilla isn't enough but I don't actually know if it adds building features or if it just lets other things act like buildings lol

[oblique meadow]

FUN-ctionality. It was right there. Gosh

[vernal crest]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Buildings

[desert light]

This is sort of where I'm getting confused. Do many mods that "add" entirely new buildings sort of build a facade on top of existing building types?

[vernal crest]

They just add to the list of buildings with the data that they want for their building, the available choices for which are listed on that wiki page I listed

If the building has new functionality that a vanilla building isn't capable of, it'll be C# (whether their own or using a framework).

For example there's a monster hutch framework mod that lets you put non-slime monsters in a hutch to raise them like slimes. The mod itself doesn't add content to the game but makes it possible for others to make content packs that do.

[desert light]

In terms of adding custom functionality via c# would that be done with Building subclasses? Like how I see the junimo hut in the decompiled stuff being it's own extension of the building class

[lucid iron]

Vanilla buildings very stronk just try doing it with only cp first

Don't use solid foundations

As for adding functionality it kinda depends on what you want to do

[vernal crest]

Ah ha MMAP does have some building stuff

[lucid iron]

Something like junimo hut will need C# most likely but you can do obelisks with just normal vanilla stuff

[vernal crest]

That I don't need to try to explain now because Chu is here anyway

[lucid iron]

The building stuff in mmap mainly pertains to the draw layers

If u needed fancier anim

Or if u want multiple entrances

[obtuse wigeon]

Can spouse rooms have changable floors and walls? or are they hardcoded/not doable with just CP

[calm nebula]

There was at least one mod for that

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah the north wall greenhouse door

[lucid iron]

Yeah just edit the spouse room tmx

[obtuse wigeon]

I shall see if I can find it, I did look but missed it I guess

[lucid iron]

Give it a floor id wall id

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh perfect! thank you

[warm field]

Are spouserooms hardcoded to always have to appear on the right side/have their opening on the left?

[desert light]

It would be a non-enterable building very similar to junimo huts, even up to the point that junimos would be assigned to them lol.

[lucid iron]

In that case u will probably need C#

It's the kind of specific gameplay thing that is unlikely to be covered by any frameworks lol

If you wish to subclass a building then you will need spacecore

[fading moon]

i might just be dumb, but i can't figure this out lol. iv'e been trying to use only the buildings from a recolor mod but i'm struggling with what fromarea and toarea mean. can somebody explain it to me?

and iv'e already read the github guide but i'm still confused. but i understand most of the other stuff.

[lucid iron]

Well idk what tx you are editing but let's say it's 64x64 just as example

And then you wish to only edit the top left corner of 32x32

So the ToArea is 32 0 32 32, which means "starting at the point x=32 y=0, edit over a 32x32 box"

[vernal crest]

(psst Chu that's not top left)

[lucid iron]

Yes i meant top right sorry

[fading moon]

and what does fromarea mean?

[vernal crest]

The same thing but on the sheet that you're using as your source image

[fading moon]

or really i should ask is how to find the toarea and from area, thats what i'm most confused about.

[vernal crest]

It only applies if you're using a smaller part of a large source image

[lucid iron]

Usually the various image editing software will show you a X Y width height when you select something

[vernal crest]

You open the images in an image editor and turn on a 16x16 grid (in this case) and then put your mouse over the top left pixel in the top left square that you want to use

[fading moon]

oh, ok. is there a recommended program to use or can i use any? i currently have gimp.

[lucid iron]

Gimp is fine for this

[tiny zealot]

use whatever you're comfortable using, as long as it can output 8-bit rgba .png files

[fading moon]

great, thank you guys for the help. i think i know what i'm doing now.

[tiny zealot]

(if an image editor cannot clear this very low bar, i don't consider it an image editor /lh)

[warm field]

even old MS Paint can do that these days

[gentle rose]

are you saying vim isn’t an image editor

[brave fable]

in this example, we're replacing White Egg in Maps/springObjects (the blue spritesheet) with Brown Egg in assets/Objects (the brown spritesheet).
photoshop's Info panel shows my hidden cursor is at 192x112 on the topleft corner of the brown egg sprite, which becomes the X, Y values of the FromArea, and we check the same for the white egg to use for the ToArea

windows, not satisfied with making me run windows updates before i can open photoshop, also hides my cursor in the screenshot

[gray bear]

windows always mad

[warm field]

I don't think it ever included its cursors in screenshots?

[brave fable]

i'm giving a demonstration, not a history lesson 😌

[fading moon]

this helps, thank you!

[iron ridge]

in snipping tool i've never had it visible but a print screen full-screen one usually has it for me iirc

[warm field]

snipping tool at least lets you mark things, helpfully

[warm field]

Is this a mystery then?

All the mods I've checked always had the spouse room spot on the right so I was wondering is this is a limit I'd have to consider, too

[drowsy pewter]

blueberry committing egg crimes

beige egg

[brave fable]

sadly, three brave explorers were lost trying to discover this precious information

[warm field]

Ah, I'm sorry

[brave fable]

this is because i gave them the wrong directions. the method FarmHouse.GetSpouseRoomCorner in the decompiled game code says you can specify the position with the farmhouse map property SpouseRoomPosition

[obtuse wigeon]

What am I doing wrong? I didn't think I'd get an error unknown to me when trying to make spouse rooms decoratable
Log: https://smapi.io/log/d6783f4791444827aedfa76f0265b2e6
Content.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/bf56af426f2643c2ac923e8f049a8325
One image is Map properties of the custom spouseRooms.tmx, I've only included the Back Object layer as that's the only thing I want to change, and the other is the floor property of one spouse room area

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.16.7.1, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[brave fable]

you're saying your map has no tile layers?

[obtuse wigeon]

Yes, only Object layer as that's the only thing I'm adding

[brave fable]

use this instead:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md#edit-map-properties

[obtuse wigeon]

Guessing it needs atleast something on a tile layer

[vernal crest]

You can't transfer map properties via tmx EditMap anyway, but I don't think you can do that

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh gotcah okay, thank you!

[brave fable]

Overlay surprisingly expects you to provide a map

[vernal crest]

Use MapTiles for the tile object properties

[brave fable]

whoops yep, wrong heading link

you want map tiles below that.

[vernal crest]

They need both anyway

Although you'll need to do a text operation to append the map properties atlas

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh there is going to be a lot of writing the same thing, automation time

[vernal crest]

Test it first!

[obtuse wigeon]

Gotcha thank you!

[vernal crest]

(Also the map property edit might need to be the farmhouse not the spouse rooms map)

[obtuse wigeon]

Well that just entirely wiped out the spouse room, time to figure out what I did wrong

[obtuse wigeon]

Guessing that's for me? do only I have to download it for testing or would users have to use it too

[lucid mulch]

theres an open PR for SMAPI with it, so hopefully by the end of the month it should be in smapi

though I need to check whether this is also deleting the cellar door

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohhh okay gotcha, I remember this discussion now, if I didn't participate I did lurk and watch it go down

[vernal crest]

Just thinking about polyam mods, are you giving each of the spouse rooms different IDs so they can be differently papered if the player has multiple?

[obtuse wigeon]

Thats what I was intending to do, I don't use polyam mods myself but I do know many people use them

I really need to install a different console emulator, why on earth does it not have a way to access previously sent commands like every other

I shall be leaving this idea until an update that fixes the phantom spouse rooms bc this is not a testing environment I enjoy

[warm field]

Interesting that only the left window has sunshine coming through

Different window items?

[obtuse wigeon]

I didn't even notice that, they aren't even window items, they're what the game places as a placeholder when there isn't a spouse room

[tiny zealot]

are you sure this is your terminal's fault and not simply the SMAPI On Linux Experience™

[obtuse wigeon]

Honestly, Not a clue, but I like to think SMAPI is perfect with nothing wrong at all

[tiny zealot]

well

i'm reasonably confident that its command handling on linux does not support up/down to access command history

i hear that it does on windows, so i suspect there's some layer that is supposed to do it but silently does not

[brave fable]

am i finally losing my mind or is my git activity starting to spell out FS

[obtuse wigeon]

That shall be something I live with then, I really don't want to go back to windows

[obtuse wigeon]

It's not starting, It has, well done on the commit artwork

[tiny zealot]

(i also live with it, and i don't have time to figure out the class hierarchy in SMAPI enough to try and PR it)

[obtuse wigeon]

One day I shall submit a PR to SMAPI, that day, is not before 1.7 release that is for sure

[vernal crest]

I expect one of you to have fixed it before I move to Linux please

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6636 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1418602026379772132)

[obtuse wigeon]

group effort, we'll all work on it

[calm nebula]

I've said before

[obtuse wigeon]

almost certainly for worse, too many cooks spoil the broth

[calm nebula]

Given the sheer numver of enbies around

Why has no one implemented the third gender in stardew

[obtuse wigeon]

WELL you say that....

1,7 may bring that change

or was it 1.6.16?

one of them does magic

[vernal crest]

No I don't think it's in scope for vanilla?

[tiny zealot]

no one wants to write the UI transpiler to put the button on the cmenu

[obtuse wigeon]

I swear tirnary token things were discussed

(Tirnary isn't the name, I cant remember the name but it's a 3 state thing)

[tiny zealot]

1.6 has a gender switch block with three bits: ${male^female^unspecified}$

[obtuse wigeon]

Maybe it was that, that I was thinking about

[tiny zealot]

switch blocks are great and i hope they get expanded to more things in 1.7, as teased

[obtuse wigeon]

I identify as ${male^female^unspecified}$, as in, I will have all the genders at once, with no leftovers, no more gender left for anyone else

I ADORE switch blocks so much, if an IF can be replace by a switch, I can and will change it

[warm field]

ternary, I think

[obtuse wigeon]

That is the correct spelling, thank you!

[vernal crest]

Because the ones who know how to are retired!

[brave fable]

go on then. make a new third gender farmer sheet. you can do the pants

[warm field]

and kilts and skirts, while you're at it

[vernal crest]

Just alternate the male and female ones every frame

[gaunt orbit]

what is even the difference between the male and female sprites

[calm nebula]

1 pixel of height

Subtle breasts

[brave fable]

shoe sizes and foot shapes, leg positions, eyes and lashes, expressions, underwear, and sweat

more than you think

[tiny zealot]

thinking once again about how male!farmer is 2 pixels taller in his swimsuit than he is naked/in normal clothes

[warm field]

he put on leg extensions

[latent mauve]

Look, clearly being in a swimsuit makes the farmer want to show off and stop slouching

[autumn tide]

[hard fern]

Wajt what. Life is ruined. Unfun fact

[calm nebula]

Technically ternaries are two states

[shut edge]

Something something vertical binders

[true coyote]

ugh, I'm trying to make an item bag for extra foraging and fermentation and it's just not working out, even though its structured exactly like the other custom item bags I downloaded, and like how the mod documentation says to build it :/

anyone familiar with making an item bag?

hmm, now I only have part of the items

[quartz flame]

Are there any online tutorial on how to create mods?

[urban patrol]

!startmodding yes, you can use the official wiki and there’s also the modding wiki which has tutorials for specific things

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[quartz flame]

Thanks

[spiral wave]

Potentially dumb question what is the best way to get involved with the modding community and help with mods? Not sure if I said that right, 😅

[latent mauve]

Are you looking to help with making mods, or get help in making mods?

[spiral wave]

help with making mods

I'm familar with golang and JSON seems pretty easy, but I still have to take a class to get c#

[round dock]

To be clear, you want to help modders/authors with their mods?

[spiral wave]

If they want that help, yes

[true coyote]

aha got it

[round dock]

Just a bit curious though, have you made a Stardew mod before?

[latent mauve]

I'd personally recommend getting your feet wet with Stardew modding (like making your own mods, even if they're small/unpublished tester mods just to make sure you're able to create a working mod) before you offer help to others, but if you're already familiar with JSON, a Content Patcher content pack is likely the best place to start getting familiar with Stardew modding.

That's just my personal opinion though

[drowsy pewter]

yeah its less about learning json and more about learning the game modding frameworks/data system

there are some mods that are team projects though that you can ask to help with

like if youve played a lot of modded stardew you can think about what mods you like the most ?

sometimes theres also people who like doing pixel art but are scared of doing the code

so sometimes amateur artist+coders team up like that

[spiral wave]

Not yet, 😊

[spiral wave]

I appreciate those words, and that sounds like solid advice, 🫶

[fading walrus]

In the meantime, while you learn, feel free to scopecreep people

[round dock]

Ah, personally, I think the best way to help others is having experience in making a mod yourself, no matter how small or complex it is. But this is the right place when it comes to offering/asking help with modding. Lots of new authors (and even experienced ones) come around asking for help i.e. a pair of eyes to check their code or how to implement something properly

[spiral wave]

That's awesome, I would love that if it happens, 😃

[fading walrus]

What the others said in general, but if someone wants to brainstorm, you can always jump in lol

[spiral wave]

I can definitely do that, 😃

[round dock]

That, too! I fairly enjoy brainstorming with other authors and has in fact helped me in solidifying the idea behind my last published mod

[spiral wave]

I will start looking to making something that can be helpful whether it's a tool or an actual mod

[autumn tide]

also a complete beginner here, I'm making a mod but still don't really know how to code, I just got started by editing pre-existing mods with help from wiki, so that might be a good starting place for you too!

[spiral wave]

That sounds amazing, 😃

[autumn tide]

getting insanely hyperfixated helps-

[spiral wave]

I will have to learn that and I appreciate you saying that, 🫶

[round dock]

That’s a noble thing to do but yeah, my point remains the same. I’d suggest making a mod,
something you’d want to implement in the game yourself. Or you could offer being a playtester and study the assets. This would help you familiarize with the many aspects of modding the game.

[spiral wave]

I would love to become a playtester

I work in Tech Support so I already have a troubleshooting mindset toward fixing problems

[round dock]

(feel free to hang out and help around at #1272025932932055121 )

[autumn tide]

idk if my advice as someone in a similar situation would help since idk what I'm doing either, but for me I was really passionate about an old mod that was semi-fixed, but still had a few bugs, found the way to fix the bug and then spiraled into incorporating my own headcanons and now I'm making a whole Krobus expansion-

[spiral wave]

That sounds amazing, 😍

[spiral wave]

perfect, I will do that, thanks @round dock ++

Keep forgetting I'm not in slack, 😅

[autumn tide]

soo if there's any lore idea you want added, tweaking a pre-existing mod for personal use can be a good start! (alsooooo if you wanna help out with mod-making I'd appreciate your input with mine cause I'm a little stuck rn-)

[spiral wave]

Ohh? I would love to help, want to talk here or DM?

[autumn tide]

whichever you prefer!

I don't really have a preference lol

[solar sierra]

Hello hello ~
I hope it's okay to ask here...
I'd like to start modding furniture for stardew and I was wondering if it's possible to test AT furniture mods in game with the CJB Item Spawner.
I've...never made/installed mods for Stardew so I don't know how all of that works 😂
Thank you in advance for the answer (^ w^)/

[autumn tide]

sadly can't help with that but cool pfp! you might get a response in modded tech support?

[slow basin]

in the dispos file when choosing the spouse adopts true or false does false mean that you have genetic kids with spouse with option to adopt or is that only if i put true

[uncut viper]

the SpouseAdopts field is a string, it takes a game state query so you can decide under what conditions will adoption happen instead of the farmer/the NPC giving birth

not just true/false

false means the spouse will not adopt if the spouse is the opposite gender of the player

but they will still adopt if they are the same gender

[slow basin]

ooooooh

[uncut viper]

(i think

[autumn tide]

hmmm okay! cool to know lol

[uncut viper]

actually setting it to false explicitly might override the same gender thing

[uncut viper]

(thats not a tech support question)

[autumn tide]

lemme check the character files

[uncut viper]

the CJB Item Spawner can spawn any item in the game as long as it IS a real item (so things like Fashion Sense items may not always be "real" items)
so if the AT pack affects a furniture you can spawn, then you can just spawn the furniture and test it

SpouseAdopts does override the usual same-gender restriction

[solar sierra]

Oooh got it, thank you !

[autumn tide]

it looks like spouse adopts is usually null for the marriageables

[latent mauve]

If null, defaults to true for same-gender and false for opposite-gender spouse

Per the wiki. 🙂

[slow basin]

Aaah ok thank you so much!

that was really confusing me lol

i must not have been looking at the wiki right lmao

[latent mauve]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Social_features

[slow basin]

OH! thats why i never visited that page >.> im following the tiakall tut and im doing bare bones rn and then building on everything else

[latent mauve]

The official wiki has most if not all of the explanations for the data fields in the modding namespace pages for the thing you are looking to change.

It's really recommended to have that page open alongside any NPC tutorials or creators you might be working with, just so you know what can GO in each of those fields and what they do.

[solar sierra]

I have another question if it's okay to ask x)
AT mods replace/overwrite already existing og furniture if I understand correctly ? So does that mean I need to write the og ItemName I want to replace in the texture.json ?

Also ! Is there anyway to know the size of the og furniture sprites ?

[uncut viper]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[uncut viper]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

the second governor command there answers your latest question

[solar sierra]

Thank you ! 🌸

Oh the unpacked sprites are tilesets though, so I don't know the exact size of each furniture individually... How do everyone know how many tiles/pixels one furniture is ?

[uncut viper]

you can open the tilesheet and measure them

[solar sierra]

With a grid ! Why I didn't think of that, I'm dummy xD
Thank you !

[uncut viper]

just make sure when measuring you include the empty space around each tile
theyll be sized in increments of 16px

[solar sierra]

👌(^ w ^)

[merry rampart]

my town fountain looks like this during the winter and i have no idea why

buildings layer in tiled

ah nvm i see why

[autumn tide]

hey! uhh two questions, first what do the numbers (other than 0, ik that's the player name) in curly brackets translate to in the extra dialog file? for example: "PurchasedItem_1_QualityHigh": "Hey, {0}.#$b# So I stopped by Pierre's the other day and bought {1} {2}. It was the first time I've seen one of those there in a while... #$b#I cooked it up for dinner last night... It filled the house with a {3} smell.. It was a hit!$h#$b#I'm glad Pierre's stock is starting to expand again.#$e# Anyways...",

also, the purchased item lines in the extra dialog files are numbered, is there a specific reason for that or is it just for randomization purposes? example:
"PurchasedItem_1_QualityHigh" "PurchasedItem_1_QualityLow" " "PurchasedItem_2_QualityHigh" "PurchasedItem_2_QualityLow" "PurchasedItem_3_QualityLow_Rude" "PurchasedItem_3_QualityHigh_Rude" "PurchasedItem_3_NonRude" "PurchasedItem_4" "PurchasedItem_5_VegetableOrFruit" "PurchasedItem_5_Cooking" "PurchasedItem_5_Foraged"

[uncut viper]

{0} is not always player name

a number in braces means that something will be substituted into that space

like an item name, for example, which probably goes into the {2} slot if i had to guess

[autumn tide]

oh really? thanks for telling me!

[uncut viper]

what goes into what number entirely depends on the context its used in and what the code behind the scenes decides to put in there

[autumn tide]

ohhh okay, so there's no set rule and I have to infer?

[brittle pasture]

you don’t have to infer and can read the source

the code in this case is in ShopLocation.cs if you have the decompile

[autumn tide]

ooh okay

ty!

[uncut viper]

if you dont want to read the source and it isnt written on a wiki somewhere or something then yeah you have to infer

whether by guessing or by trying to see it in game

[autumn tide]

sadly not on the token page on the wiki

[uncut viper]

theyre not tokens or tokenizable strings

[autumn tide]

oh?

[uncut viper]

theyre not specific to Stardew at all

its just something you can do with strings in C#

among other programming languages

without reading the source id assume that {1} is a random amount ("a few", "one", "a" ,"some") and {3} is a random adjective

i make no claims of being 100% correct

[autumn tide]

yeah, that's what I thought too, I was just hoping there was a universal answer lol

[uncut viper]

i was close, {1} is just the proper particle for the item name

a vs an

the numbers in the string keys dont matter

[pine elbow]

hey yall

[autumn tide]

hi!

[autumn tide]

tysm for your help :) do you know about the answer to my second question?

[uncut viper]

what was your second question

[autumn tide]

uhh one sec lemme paste

also, the purchased item lines in the extra dialog files are numbered, is there a specific reason for that or is it just for randomization purposes? example:
"PurchasedItem_1_QualityHigh" "PurchasedItem_1_QualityLow" " "PurchasedItem_2_QualityHigh" "PurchasedItem_2_QualityLow" "PurchasedItem_3_QualityLow_Rude" "PurchasedItem_3_QualityHigh_Rude" "PurchasedItem_3_NonRude" "PurchasedItem_4" "PurchasedItem_5_VegetableOrFruit" "PurchasedItem_5_Cooking" "PurchasedItem_5_Foraged"

[uncut viper]

that was what this was in response to

[autumn tide]

OHHH okay ty!!

was confused for a sec lol, thanks!!

[uncut viper]

theyre numbered just bc theyre numbered as far as i can tell

the random choice is decided elsewhere

however it will always be the _3_[...]_Rude variant if they are a rude npc

basically the game chooses a number randomly between 0 and 5 (exclusive) and then if the NPC is rude it sets it to 2
then it uses that number to determine which PurchasedItem line to show, but if it chooses 0 it will use the 1 line, if it chooses 1 it will use the 2 line, etc

so like, its technically for randomization purposes, but it manually writes in the next higher number, so...

theres also some hardcoding for specific NPCs

[ornate drift]

sooo uhhh

what's a full-on guide to making a custom NPC?

[iron ridge]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[calm nebula]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[brittle pasture]

the event format is totally wrong. please refer to the wiki page + unpacked vanilla files

[ornate locust]

AI code isn't allowed here because it also doesn't know what it's doing

[grizzled stag]

Hi, AI-generated content, including code, is not permitted in the server

[round flume]

Ok sorry I'll except a ban

[grizzled stag]

This is only a verbal reminder, offical warnings and ban messages would be sent via bouncer in DMs

[ornate locust]

well that's a bit dramatic, you deleted it, don't worry about it

Looking at a vanilla event as an example will definitely be more helpful though.

[round flume]

I don't how to code i just wanted some help

[urban patrol]

we're perfectly happy to help you learn, but we cannot help correct chatGPT code (it's a waste of our time much better spent showing you resources to use instead). as people mentioned, try visiting [[Modding:Event_data]] for more information on events specifically

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data

[jolly torrent]

just wondering if this mod exists already or if it's something i'll have to go make - has anyone split out all artisan items (ie. wines, pickles, jellies, honey) to be separate items for the shipping collection? would that even be possible?

[brittle pasture]

anything is possible in C#, which I’d imagine to be the best route to go with

[jolly torrent]

oh god lmao... alright fair enough, time to crack a book on that ig

[brittle pasture]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[jolly torrent]

i've only ever done content packs before buuuut

😤 i can do it

[brittle pasture]

what you want is theoretically possible with content packs, but

• you’d need an ungodly amount of code
• you’d need separate compat with modded crops
• it’d break the hardcoded raccoon requests (among others) if you make the generic variants completely unobtainable

[jolly torrent]

yeah, it'd be better to learn c# and do it that way! i guess i know my next project for a while lmao

[balmy venture]

learning C# from scratch without help is hard. I know it well 😔 I'm not a code person so I'm struggling real hard

[oblique meadow]

Do… do you need c#? like… I’m pretty sure we have a framework for everything these days. Heck… there’s a poop framework

[balmy venture]

well for my ideas that are usually improvements and compats, yes haha

what can I say, I'm a creative person without coding knowledge lol

[oblique meadow]

🤷‍♂️ I’m a colorblind person who tries to make pixel art at times. We all have our challenges

[balmy venture]

we could switch lol

at least at colors 🤣

[spiral wave]

Thank you for that command and a starting place

[autumn tide]

hello! so I wanna change krobus's current 14 heart event to instead trigger while married on the 28th of summer when you go to bed, i think ik how i would make the event trigger when i want it to, but how could i get that to relpace the original event?

[brittle pasture]

you can null out the original event

[autumn tide]

oh yeah!

ty!

turns out i don't know what I'm doing lmao, how could I get my event (on the beach) to trigger when going to bed on the 28th of summer? I set up a DayEnding trigger action, but idk how to connect it to the event

[uncut viper]

if you want it to be a night event like that, you need the More Nightly Events framework

[autumn tide]

oh, I mean like a heart event

[uncut viper]

yeah. you cant do events when you go to bed without that

[autumn tide]

oh okay! i didn't know they were in the same category

[lucid iron]

The only way to emulate it is to have a event on the farmhouse location and make it happen in the morning

[autumn tide]

got it, even with more nightly events or nah?

[uncut viper]

More Nightly Events lets you run a normal event script overnight

any script you choose

[autumn tide]

got it, so how could I implement the event with MNE?

[uncut viper]

you'll have to look at its documentation

[autumn tide]

Oh, okay

prob gonna ask for more help here bc i suck at coding lol

would I have to set up the event in the farmhouse and then try to warp it to the beach or something?

[uncut viper]

you will have to refer to its documentation

it will likely answer your questions where i cannot as i have not used it

[autumn tide]

gotcha, thanks :)

[turbid umbra]

Is this the place to ask for a mod?

[tender agate]

!modideas standard proceddure is you submit them here and hope someone makes it

https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

[tiny zealot]

or if you are asking if a mod to do X already exists, or which of several options people prefer, #modded-stardew is the channel for that

[golden basin]

is it possible to add dig spot to the map in vanilla?

like a dig spot that has 1 item

[drowsy pewter]

you can do that with spacecore spawnables

[golden basin]

the documentation is gone

ooh i see nevermind the link i have is old

[drowsy pewter]

oh yeah im not sure what happened to the links lol

did you find it?

[golden basin]

I did but im not understanding the documentation. ive done this like twice and each time i barely understand it rip

[lucid iron]

casey was reorganizing the things so links prob ded

i believe both spacecore and ftm can do it?

[golden basin]

is there no vanilla way to do it? spawning on a tile? like a treasure

[drowsy pewter]

no

[uncut viper]

do you specifically want it to be a dig spot?

[golden basin]

it doesnt have to be i just want it to be obtainable

[uncut viper]

do you care if the player has to have a quest in their quest log for it?

a Lost Item quest will spawn an object on the map that the player can pick up

[golden basin]

hmm I dont know about that, its like supposed to be a wepaon you can get

[uncut viper]

then no there is no vanilla way

[golden basin]

I actually figured out a way >: 3

[drowsy pewter]

are you gonna share?

[golden basin]

yeah! if yall want

So I set the my indoor map as a outdoor, but didnt set any floor places as dirt. I put a diggable property down on one tile. Then I added my weapon as a artifact spot via location data and upped the chance to 100.0 just in case. Ill prob set a condtional to turn the spawn off once the weapon is got. adn then i made the digspot invisable when on that map

you use a treasure totem to spawn the item

makin the dig spot invisible is optionable

i just want it to be a secret thing

tho i might make it like a crack in the floor

[uncut viper]

well, i wouldnt call that spawning the dig spot if the player has to use a treasure totem to spawn it

but if it works for you then it works for you

[golden basin]

itll spawn on its own i just have the treasure totem cause i wanted to do a sort of lewis basement thing

it spawns on its own too

[uncut viper]

but not guaranteed to spawn

[golden basin]

well no i guess not... I tried my best though

i still think it was at least a decent way to do it.

[turbid umbra]

Thank you!

[shut edge]

there are some "treasure chests" in vanilla right

i dunno if they're made in a way that's helpful tho

like uhh bottom of mines boxes and such

[uncut viper]

yes and theyre all hardcoded and you cant spawn them on your own anyway

[tender agate]

Is there an IModHelper.Events thing I can hook up to when the player uses their hoe?

[tiny zealot]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Events
TerrainFeatureListChanged should cover when the hoe is used successfully but not in general

[tender agate]

yeah that's even better
any ideas on how to exclude digging artifact spots?

[tiny zealot]

no, sorry

[tender agate]

actually nvm, don't need it

to see if it was a successful hoe, I do a if (AddedTerrainFeature == typeof(HoeDirt)) or something like that?

[tiny zealot]

something like it

if you don't need to take any action with the item and you just want to check whether you have one, something like
if (e.Added.Values.Any(item => item is HoeDirt)) {
should do (with using System.Linq;)

[gaunt orbit]

You'd want to use is to check type. You could use GetType() == typeof() but usually that's not what you want, and I think that's slower and less convenient anyways

[vernal crest]

Well, drat. I apparently cannot nest a local token inside a config token like this: "Texture": "{{ModId}}_PhotoBackground{{CT_PhotoBg{{LT_AnimalName}}}}16",

Hrm, I cannot find a workaround for this.

[mortal hatch]

i got a mod where
"BuildCondition": "PLAYER_HEARTS Any Gus 4 hearts",
puts out in SMAPI:
[game] Failed parsing condition 'PLAYER_HEARTS Any Gus 4 hearts': optional index 4 (int maxHearts) has value 'hearts', which can't be parsed as an integer.

any clue what the right code phrase would be?

[hard fern]

its telling you hearts is not a number, so just try removing that? 🤔

[vernal crest]

Ah ha. Put the CT into a new LT, use the new LT. Hooray!

[obtuse wigeon]

Good thinking Aba

stealing that for if I come accross wanting to do that same

[vernal crest]

I don't even know if there's a point to me doing it lol. Will anyone want to adjust their animal photo backgrounds/frames separately?

Like this, where you can choose a different background for each animal. (Animal sprites by Elle. Photo backgrounds and frames adapted from vanilla by me.)

[hard fern]

cutee

[vernal crest]

I think I would like the option to adjust them individually in case I wanted them to be themed differently according to the room they were in or something

[hard fern]

really cool that the... the sprites will match whatever retexture

[vernal crest]

Thanks! I am pretty happy with that little idea haha

[vital lotus]

Most players r usually expect more of drag and drop, that's it. But those who do will appreciate

[vernal crest]

Drag and drop? Like to just put the furniture on their wall and go about their day, do you mean? Or drag and drop for installing the mod?

[vital lotus]

*who do like tweaking

Installing the mod

[vernal crest]

Well, installing it will be the same either way

This is all just config settings ^_^

Editable on the go while in game via GMCM

If you squint, you can see it change even while in the GMCM menu (though it's pretty dark lol)

(Well, you can't because you don't have the mod lol but I can!)

[obtuse wigeon]

I can say for certain I would defo change them to match the room they're in, none of my rooms tend to be the same so being able to mix and match is fantastic

[mortal hatch]

yea bread lovers gets a rework, someday

said the maker during JANUARY

[vernal crest]

Good to know, thanks! I decided to continue with making them all individually adjustable for my own sake anyway but it's nice to know that at least one other person will also like it ^_^

[vernal crest]

Are you coming in here just to throw shade at a mod maker for not updating a mod fast enough for you?

[mortal hatch]

atleast fix this major bug....
with i dunno? a bugfix patch?

its been altready half a year

[vernal crest]

This is a hobby. People do this for fun and they do it for free. Stop with that entitled attitude.

[mortal hatch]

entitled attitude.? you are reading me wrong

i cmoplain then move on

[vernal crest]

And I'm saying "don't complain"

[hard fern]

i mean if you want something updated best solution tbh is to just do it yourself (but don't post it publicly anywhere unless you have permission)

[mortal hatch]

why shouldnt i be alowed to post a bugfix for a mod?

[hard fern]

cuz it's unofficial

and the actual author at the end of the day has the final say in everything bc it's their mod, it belongs to them

[obtuse wigeon]

It's classed as Mod theft if you don't have persmission from the original author

[hard fern]

if the author has said that it's ok to post unoffical bugfixes it's fine though

[vernal crest]

You can do so if you do it as a separate mod that doesn't include any of the original mod's assets or code, but even then the preferred etiquette in the community is that you make a good faith attempt to contact the author first. If your fix would have to include any of the original mod inside it, you can't do it at all. Edit: note that this applies in situations where the original mod author has not given permission for other people to modify their mod or redistribute their assets, which is the case for Bread Lovers.

[mortal hatch]

ok, never heard of that

i fixed it, but the netire building isnt working, so imma have to wait then

[vernal crest]

It's on the Nexus mod page under the "Permissions and credits" dropdown

[mortal hatch]

but i am at the verge to do it myself.... so i got a fixed version for myself

i just need to copy how the industrial furnace mod does it, and this mod doesnt

[vernal crest]

I'm sure I'm not going to get mixed up having four tokens that are almost, but not quite, identical /lh

[brave fable]

lh.. but not j...

[vernal crest]

I never joke blueberry

Light of heart but serious of face

[gray bear]

when will i understand schedules i just want my kids to go to the desert festival (they are real npcs rn)

reading the schedule wiki im confused, how do i make them warp

[vernal crest]

You don't, they will take whatever warp is available to them

I'm not sure if schedules with only a single schedule point work

You're starting them on the bus stop map right?

[gray bear]

that is their default location

[vernal crest]

Try adding another schedule point

[hard fern]

gghhhh... i come back to working on my mod and i immediately dive into chairs hell

[vernal crest]

But also have you done blank loads for their schedules first?

[fading walrus]

[vernal crest]

Chairs as in chairtiles?

[gray bear]

many blanks

[hard fern]

yep... chair tiles...

[gray bear]

well 2, of em.

[hard fern]

[vernal crest]

Why is that hell?

[gray bear]

hey quill

[vernal crest]

A bit tedious, maybe

[hard fern]

cuz i dont like drawing chairs 😔

[vernal crest]

Oh so it is the drawing, not the data

[gray bear]

custom chairs?

[vernal crest]

Okay I return to suggesting another schedule point

[gray bear]

alrighty

[fading walrus]

I'm gonna get to work on something from the wip pile tonight

As a treat

[gray bear]

baba is wave

have fun

[obtuse wigeon]

the "something" is quite intriguing to me, I do love a good something

[hard fern]

yuh... chair..

[fading walrus]

I haven't quite decided what to work on! I have a number of options

[gray bear]

i wish u a swift and nice chair experience

[obtuse wigeon]

I vote for the 3rd item from the bottom

[fading walrus]

Hmmmmm

Maybe I should finish my soda update since that's already in progress

[obtuse wigeon]

unless it's NPC related, then I vote for 3rd from top

Wwww more soda!

[gray bear]

🥤

[fading walrus]

I shall finish the update

It is decided

After that I'll get to work on the interface since that's also already a WIP

[gray bear]

live ur soda dreams

[obtuse wigeon]

If it wasn't for all my mods needing textures rn I'd also be modding

[gray bear]

ugh, textures

[obtuse wigeon]

Exactly!

[gray bear]

look at em

[obtuse wigeon]

daisy chain of children

[gray bear]

i will make them attend the festival

[hard fern]

im just stalling bc i dont want to do textures XD

sigh i realized a flaw in my mod so i have to revise buildings and stuff too

[desert ibex]

wishing there were updated video tutorials on how to make custom npcs in 1.6… like ones that walk you through the entire process start to finish 💔 LOVE the wiki and it’s super helpful but i still have times where im unable to follow like half of the things on there bc i have genuinely 0 experience coding 😞

it would be a lot of work though.. so i understand why one isn’t up lol

[vernal crest]

I notice you say "the wiki" when we actually have two which makes me wonder if you've only seen one of them. Have you been shown the NPC-making tutorial?

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC

[desert ibex]

yep! i looked at a majority of the tutorials including the one in the bot message that people are able to bring up here 😭😭 it just gets difficult for me to pay attention when i see a bunch of text bc of my adhd + dyslexia combo so i wish there was an audible guide out there

[vernal crest]

Fair enough

[obtuse wigeon]

Can we get stephen fry to do an audible modding tutorial? is that possible?

[desert ibex]

yeah i’ve gone through this one!! it’s this + i think the custom npc template on the same wiki here

[vernal crest]

I do always wonder what people who want a video guide would be copying and pasting though.

[desert ibex]

could always point to the description for links to templates if it’s a youtube video

[vernal crest]

Like is the expectation that the video tutorial also has the code snippets somewhere? Or do people just want to type it all out by hand from the video?

We have had some people say they are going to make a video. Nothing seems to have come from it though

[obtuse wigeon]

I guess if you have the schema it can help build up muscle memory by doing it manually while still having the helping hand

[vernal crest]

I suspect because the overlap of people who like video tutorials, people who know how to make video tutorials, and people who know how to mod Stardew is quite small.

[desert ibex]

yeaaah 💔 most likely

[vernal crest]

I hate videos because of my ADHD lol

They're so sloooooooooooooooow and when I miss something I have to do so much work to find the spot again

[hard fern]

i like video turorials but a lot of them ive seen (in general) tend to be poorly made/paced

[desert ibex]

i like them bc it’s easy for me to rewind if i miss something and if it’s too slow i can just turn it to 2x

[obtuse wigeon]

I tend to play videos on 2x (sometimes 3x if its available) speed

[vernal crest]

I did that when I had to listen to lectures in uni

Outside of lectures I just avoid videos wherever possible

[obtuse wigeon]

if they're on youtube, it has the chapter features, which when used correctly, are very useful

[hard fern]

ugh i hate lectures

they just drag on and on...

[desert ibex]

this is what i’ve learnt iver the past three days 💔.. and then the ones that are easy for me to follow are 5 years old and outdated to hell and back 😭

[obtuse wigeon]

Lectures I had to rewatch because the lecturer always talks way too slow for my liking

[vernal crest]

I enjoyed mine because I loved almost every single class I had in uni and wanted to learn all the things, but I didn't take notes or anything so I didn't get much long-term knowledge from the lectures themselves lol

[desert ibex]

notes are the devil i’ll never do them/j

maybe that’s why i’m having this issue

[obtuse wigeon]

If it wasn't for my voice, I'd make them, but the difficulty comes from talking for long for me

[vernal crest]

I write myself a lot of notes while modmaking

My first mod especially is full of lines and lines and lines of notes where I explain to myself how a certain feature works or why the syntax has to be a certain way or what my reasoning is for trying X

[desert ibex]

i probably need to take notes.. it just feels like some of the tutorials omit stuff assuming you know or at least have the basics down and im over here like 💔 well no i don’t can you be a teeny bit more specific

[obtuse wigeon]

My notes tend to be external, which because quite the problem when I loose them and no longer have any docs for why I did a thing that way

[vernal crest]

Yeah, there always has to be a level of being able to pause so you can go fill a knowledge gap to be able to successfully follow tutorials like these. Because if every single tutorial was explaining the very basics they'd all be hundreds of pages long while they explained what file extensions are and why you need to turn on the option to show them, what the different types of brackets are, what JSON is, etc. But if you're finding that you need more of an understanding of JSON, we have a tutorial for that too: https://stardew.button.gay/tutorials/json

[desert ibex]

thank you…… for saving me… i couldn’t find this one

[obtuse wigeon]

Wwww thats a great resource! thank you Button for making it!

[fading walrus]

I'm not dyslexic but I do have adhd most likely - would a focus reader extension for your browser help? Maybe one with dyslexic friendly fonts?

[vernal crest]

I don't know if we have any official links to it because Button keeps claiming that her tutorials aren't ready lol. She actually has a few more tutorials but the link at the top of the page doesn't go to them because of the aforementioned "not ready" claim. So I will give you the link to the page: https://stardew.button.gay/tutorials

[obtuse wigeon]

(I don't have dyslexia but dyslexic fonts have been a life saver personally)

[vernal crest]

We all have ADHD here /hj

[desert ibex]

i really should get around to installing a dyslexic friendly font but 1) i keep forgetting and 2) i kind of don’t like how it looks 💔💔💔 next time i’m actively at my pc i’ll make note to do so

[desert ibex]

YAYYY thabk u 🙏🙏🙏 this looks like a great resource

[drowsy pewter]

button gay?????

[hard fern]

button.gay

best domain

[desert ibex]

tbh the button site does already feel easier for me to read LOL maybe it’s because i’m on mobile atm but there’s large spaces between each word and that somehow helps tremendously

[vernal crest]

I see there's research showing that dyslexia fonts don't help

Does increasing text size help?

[desert ibex]

not really.. if the words are too close together or in big blocks they tend to like.. melt together mentally if that makes sense 😭

[fading walrus]

My thesis supervisor is dyslexic, she said they help a ton when combined with increasing text size and reducing the amount of clutter on the page. Has to use html versions of journal articles almost exclusively as a result

[vernal crest]

I don't have dyslexia but I seem to need my text size to be much bigger than many people so I have my text permanently at least 120% and sometimes even bigger

[fading walrus]

Anecdotal of course, but it suggests that the fonts don't help in isolation

[desert ibex]

i’ll test out bigger text when i’m on pc… perchance that is another factor as to why it’s easier to read on my phone

[vernal crest]

Okay so maybe a font that emphasises the letter shapes won't help but something that changes the kerning and/or word spacing helps for you?

[obtuse wigeon]

I thought dyslexia fonts were entirely just to help prevent b, p, d, q looking the same, for actual words they don't do so much

[hard fern]

ngl even with a dyslexia font they all look the same

to me, at least

[fading walrus]

Mayhaps postlight reader or tranquility reader would help
They reduce clutter and you can adjust the text settings like spacing and such

[desert ibex]

yes!! it’s much easier to read when stuff is spaced out for me 🫡🫡 i’ll look into browser extensions soon… bc it’ll likely help me in other places too outside of trying to read the wiki

[hard fern]

😅 idk, i dont really process the "difference" in the way the text is written with those fonts properly

i have trouble reading text in general and it's mostly about how small the text is/spacing that matters more

[fading walrus]

(Available for chromium browsers and firefox alike, they're both good)

[desert ibex]

i use opera so it should work on there… ty quill

[hard fern]

this is also a silent reminder to me to wear my damn glasses

[desert ibex]

i need glasses but i can’t afford the lenses right now … ok thinking in retrospect no wonder i’m having difficulties reading the wiki perhaps a video tutorial might not be needed after all……. i shall test this theory Soon

[vernal crest]

Opera might also have a reader view like Firefox does where you can control things like the character and word spacing

[fading walrus]

when I last used opera, I seem to remember finding it very rudimentary

That was what made me use an extension

[desert ibex]

fingers crossed guys… ty for the tips

[vernal crest]

Comparison of the first paragraph of the NPC tutorial in the reader view vs my normal view

[fading walrus]

Ooo

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh that so much easier to read

[desert ibex]

oooooo.. yeah the first one looks WAY more readable to me 😭

[fading walrus]

Note: this was a few years ago, I imagine things have changed

[hard fern]

i'll admit i really just skim past all of the text in the wikis because i see long paragraphs and my eyes glaze over... 😅

[desert ibex]

THAT HAPPENS TO ME TOO!!

it’s like i try to read but my mind forcequits when it comes to comprehending any of the words on the page lol

[vernal crest]

(That's with me having increased the word spacing, character spacing, and line height. Can also change to serif or monospace font.)

[desert ibex]

🙏🙏 will absolutely be putting that into practice… I WILL CONQUER CODING!!!!!! 🔥💯

[vernal crest]

I usually chunk the wiki page content and read only bits at a time rather than trying to comprehend it all as a whole

[sudden tartan]

I’m currently trying to make a sprite swap for a sve npc, does anyone know where the JSON for the sprites is? I literally can’t find it anywhere 😭

[desert ibex]

yeah i usually try to go step by step while looking at the tutorials but then i remember… i literally don’t understand json at all LOL 😭 so the site you sent me is MUCH appreciated i hope button never has a bad day ever

[vernal crest]

It's in code/NPCs/<NPC>.json

[vernal crest]

Don't worry too much about understanding absolutely everything as you go along, either. When I first started, there was a whole bunch of stuff I didn't understand while I was doing it (it was pre-tutorial so I was just copying another NPC mod) and as I got further along I'd learn something that helped me understand bits I'd already done.

If you're going all the time and you never know whether to use a } or a ] or when something needs a comma - those things you do need to understand pretty much while you're doing them.

But if you don't understand why you're Loading a blank.json (for example), that's fine! (Many people who use blank.json loads have no clue why they do, including me at the start.)

[desert ibex]

thank u for ur kind words… i’ve also been looking at other npc mods to understand how they format it and copy it that way but it’s still been such a major struggle that i’ve just been focusing on the art portion (what i can comfortably do)

i just have to keep hyping myself and i’ll be fine if i try hard enough i can do anything 🙏🙏 but again ty for the help 😭😭 god knows i needed it

[vernal crest]

An NPC is also a big place to start so it's understandable that it can feel overwhelming

[hard fern]

yu[

a ton of little parts

[vernal crest]

I think that to get a feel for how to get a mod in the game and how Content Patcher works, it is best to start just with little experiments. Like if you have a portrait, just try making a mod that replaces a vanilla NPC's portraits with your one. That will teach you how Load and/or EditImage works. Then try adding a new line to a vanilla NPC and that will teach you how EditData works. And so on.

I still test new-to-me features by making a silly little mod that just does that one thing

I have a whoooole bunch of them

[hard fern]

wow

[obtuse wigeon]

Well I know what I shall be doing when I'm bored, having quick access like that would be great

[obtuse wigeon]

Aba mod no.1

[desert ibex]

i really should do this…

[obtuse wigeon]

What on earth is AbaBreakChicken

[vernal crest]

That whole mod is "okay, try X" followed by "that worked! Now try Y" and "that didn't work, what if I try it like Z?"

[hard fern]

what i do if i need to test something new is i just do like. the bare minimum for my mod to work

and if it works i add all the rest of it in

[vernal crest]

Haha that was when I was trying to explode the game by setting a chicken texture to something invalid. Unlike pets though, the game has a way to handle it so it just gave my chicken an error texture instead.

[obtuse wigeon]

Same here, no fancy sprites, no fancy features, just the bog standard basics

[gray bear]

draw some squares

✨ pixel art ✨

[hard fern]

with the kinda sorta expansion ive been making i really just do one part of it at a time and load it up whenever im ready to see if it explodes or not

[gray bear]

always good to send the bomb squad in (that's u)

im still on the figuring out how to schedule

its my kid's bday and im making him stand still, in the rain (i should make rain outfits but like )

do i trust myself to umbrella

[obtuse wigeon]

(Sharing my super secret, Super unique, never before seen placeholder sprite)

Wow that's bigger than I thought

[gray bear]

oh that hurts to look it

perfect

[desert ibex]

rain outfits would be really cute….. writing down the idea for a future update when i get that far with my mod..

[obtuse wigeon]

Easily noticeable when I leave a placeholder in by accident

[desert ibex]

classic… reminds me of when i tried to and failed to mod minecraft as an 11year old 💚

[gray bear]

if i make a single umbrella sprite sheet i could simply overlay it during the seasons

but that requires making it

[vernal crest]

I usually just recolour vanilla assets in heinous fluorescents lol

[gray bear]

me? easily distracted? nooooo

[obtuse wigeon]

That's Where I got the idea from, that and source engine games, it works so well

[desert ibex]

i’ve been drawing sprites this whole time instead of actually coding just bc i like my guy so much..

[gray bear]

what

i have the opposite issue of wanting to add more things but now knowing the art

[desert ibex]

i think they fancy a desert trip maybe,.. lol

[gray bear]

expect schedules i can't figure those out

[vernal crest]

I have so much art piling up that I am dreading getting to

[desert ibex]

schedules look confusing 😭😭

[hard fern]

ugh same

i do NOT want to draw the sprites

[gray bear]

why won't they square

[desert ibex]

i 💚 DRAWING MY OC!! i don’t have this issue fortunately

[lucid iron]

Remember to eep

[gray bear]

600 is 6am and 100 is 10am right

[obtuse wigeon]

I wish I could just clone myself to make the art, or just hire someone but both those options cost money

[gray bear]

im restarting game when i edit

[desert ibex]

however in exchange for drawing i cannot code for shit but it’s ok i will learn

[lucid iron]

Also what time is 100 dont u need 1000

[vernal crest]

Okay, it's not loading a schedule so I think we return to your loads. Are your loads before the EditData patches in your code?

[gray bear]

i may be worm

[calm nebula]

Me irl

[gray bear]

they're in, separate code blocks

[vernal crest]

Yes I understand that

[calm nebula]

(At a bus stop with no schedule loaded)

[vernal crest]

Is the load one before the editdata one?

[calm nebula]

Jk

[gray bear]

sorry i emant seperate files aaaa

[vernal crest]

Yes I also understand that

Is the include for the load one before the include for the editdata one?

[gray bear]

the include loads the edit data one so yes?

[vernal crest]

Okay

[gray bear]

actually, wonder if i should move the include to content.json, none of the additional files are using any of the local tokens

[vernal crest]

What's your patch summary saying about your schedule EditData?

[gray bear]

do i just run patch summary or do i add my mod id

[vernal crest]

Add your mod id

And also full

patch summary full <modid>

(I assume you fixed that 100 time schedule point before this?)

And changed the 600 one to 610?

[gray bear]

(i, forgor, reloading)

like this is ok right?

[vernal crest]

No, make those two desert ones way further apart

In time, I mean

[gray bear]

1100?

or like 1030

[vernal crest]

They're going to start to leave the busstop at 10am and before they've even reached the warp to the desert it will be 1010

Like...1200 at a minimum for safety right now

[gray bear]

alrighty

thank u

[vernal crest]

Best to give really wide time gaps and then time how long it takes them to reach each point before you start narrowing times down

[hard fern]

ugh i kinda feel like i need to reorganize my tilesheet so i can maximize the space...

[gray bear]

whjyyyyyyyyyyy

[hard fern]

but that's gonna mess up my map lol so i also kinda dont want to do that

[vernal crest]

Don't forget the patch summary

[gray bear]

log parser having a time

full log: https://smapi.io/log/b1d660ebe62a4050be84cba33b0a3bab

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 123 C# mods and 143 content packs.

[gray bear]

does this mean my include shouldn't be in main?

[vernal crest]

No

(Why does your mod id have Lumi's name in it?)

[gray bear]

(started out as just using her toddlers mod and know im afraid to change it)

(i do still use her assets)

[vernal crest]

Why? It's not her mod, you shouldn't be putting her name as the author

As for the schedule, it's not loading or editing them

Are you definitely sleeping?

[gray bear]

if i change my modid all my children will break

[vernal crest]

Why? Where is Lumi's name hardcoded?

[gray bear]

my children's id uses {{modid}}

slept, still no schedule loaded

[vernal crest]

Right you mean the current children. You should make a note for yourself to change it once you've finished testing though

[gray bear]

i will! just not rn

i also need to like, change many other things

[vernal crest]

I do not know why this schedule isn't loading

[gray bear]

i'll do some more testing, see if i can figure it out

[vernal crest]

Going to check a patch summary for one of my NPCs to see what it looks like for theirs

Okay, the first day they had no schedule because I added them to an existing save but the next day they were all there

[vernal crest]

Is this your only attempt so far at giving your kids a schedule?

[gray bear]

yep

i don't understand // hint: asset name may be incorrect (shouldn't include '.HMK_Shane_Child_Derek' extension

[lucid iron]

That's not relevant

[gray bear]

o

[vernal crest]

That's just an annoying CP warning because it thinks you've put a file extension in your Target

[lucid iron]

If u only turned npc kid on via config for desert fest you will want to eep

Time travel back if u need to

[vernal crest]

You've been setting the day back to the 14th and then sleeping to the 15th?

[gray bear]

yes, could that be breaking it?

[gray bear]

i set it to 0

its the same at spring 16

and 17. i am lost

[opaque field]

I feel silly for asking but how does one edit the spouse room?

[vernal crest]

Do you mean edit a vanilla NPC's spouse room?

[opaque field]

yes 🙂

[vernal crest]

What does this 0 mean?

[vernal crest]

Edit Maps/spouseRooms

As long as you only want to do it before the player is married

[vernal crest]

If you want to edit the spouse room after the player is married, good luck

[gray bear]

@lucid iron did i set it wrong

[opaque field]

oh haha it's meant to be an updated map for the spouse room if you marry Shane I put a lil dollhouse to show that Jas visits T.T

[vernal crest]

You should be fine then. It's only if you want to do things like edit the spouse room after your spouse's 14h event or something that it's currently very odd and requires workarounds.

[gray bear]

i am once again in awe of CA's names for tilesheets. just p

it is for paths so it does make sense but i find it funny

[lucid iron]

No it's fine

The Q was more whether u did it immediately

[gray bear]

i have eeped since, but i do need to turn back time bc festival is only 3 days

[vernal crest]

I am at a loss as to why the schedule is not loading

[gray bear]

same here

is confus

[lucid iron]

Can u patch export the schedule at the internal id of the npc version of child

[gray bear]

how would i do tha

[lucid iron]

It is generated so I wonder if i broke forwarding at some point

Just check the real id on the npc version using lookup anything

Write it down

[gray bear]

can i make this bigger

also is it intented for the gmcm for hmk not to work while playing?

as in its not on the list

is this is the id? do i need to like, change that in the code

wait

arrow is other way around

so patch export "Character/schedules/Lumisteria.Toddlers.HMK_Shane_Child_Emilia"

?

tis empty

don't tell me its cause my entry is "DesertFestival" and all vanilla npcs use "DesertFestival_1"

[obtuse wigeon]

That is probably why

[gray bear]

prolly not since emily uses "DesertFestival"

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh okay nvm

[gray bear]

why

[obtuse wigeon]

It wouldn't hurt to try DesertFestival_1 to _3

[vernal crest]

Festival ID on its own is a valid key according to the wiki

[gray bear]

i wish i could find out why it won't load

[vernal crest]

If that is the correct internal ID, then I think the problem is with chu's mod

[lucid iron]

Hm i guess LA doesn't render the @ correctly

Try patch export Data/Characters first

[gray bear]

alr

[lucid iron]

Then look for this key

[lucid iron]

This one is also a problem though

[gray bear]

oh wait i didn't include data in the string

[lucid iron]

Cus the way it works is that you edit Characters/schedules/<kid id>

[gray bear]

oh right

iz what i did, i no understand

[lucid iron]

And i forward that to Characters/schedules/<kid npc id>

[gray bear]

what key am i looking for?

[lucid iron]

The key is the left side of :

[gray bear]

is that the key

[lucid iron]

Yeah that long thing is yhe generated id

[gray bear]

do i need to make my schedule edits use these instead of what i do now?

loong

[vernal crest]

Patch export using that

Characters/schedules/long long key

[gray bear]

also empty

[lucid iron]

Well yeah cus ur short key is empty too

[gray bear]

how fill

[lucid iron]

Post ur EditData json

[gray bear]

for the schedule or just, all the jsons

[lucid iron]

For the schedules

[gray bear]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/48b11a44e87f40d88c22f481ca7f4102

[lucid iron]

Did u load blank to any of these

[gray bear]

did this

should i instead do one before each one

this works for the dialouge, schedule might be diff

[gentle rose]

blank is blank is blank

[gray bear]

we're all blank

[lucid iron]

why is it no edit in then

[gray bear]

i don't know. i am sadge

[sudden tartan]

does anyone know where the code that sets up the kiss animation? I cant find it in animation descriptions or anything. im making custom sprites for romanceable andy from sve and everything works except that 😭

[vernal crest]

Have you set his KissSpriteIndex?

[sudden tartan]

i honestly do NOT know what that is

[vernal crest]

Or put his kiss sprite on frame 28 of his spritesheet?

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data search for "kiss"

[lucid iron]

I checked the log earlier and don't see these EditData patches

Did you forget to include

[sudden tartan]

it defaults to andys farming frame? which i dont THINK?? is on frame 28

[vernal crest]

IDK whatever this is. But just change his KissSpriteIndex to whatever frame you have put his actual kiss sprite onto

[vernal crest]

They are there

[sudden tartan]

two questions, what software is that, and where do i find the kissspriteindex

[vernal crest]

I already linked you the page with the info about the KissSpriteIndex #making-mods-general message. And it's Aseprite using a custom plugin (which I can find you if you like)

[lucid iron]

Well either way Bea the goal here is

[sudden tartan]

im looking at it currently and i do not see where it tells me the file the index is in

[obtuse wigeon]

I wonder if Aseprite can recognize my drawing tablet, if it can I may move permanently to it as I don't have access to photoshop anymore, if possible could you retrieve to plugin please?

[lucid iron]

1. Make sure schedules with the short kid id you actually EditData has stuff
2. Then, check that the schedules with the long npc id also has stuff

I'm gonna double check over here too

[vernal crest]

Everything on that page in the tables is in the Data/Characters asset as it says at the top of the page. If anything on the page is not in Data/Characters, it tells you.

[vernal crest]

It should do, it recognises my drawing tablet with no issues. Yes I will go find the plugin

[obtuse wigeon]

It does indeed recognise it, time to build it from source once again

[vernal crest]

Tile Index Overlay plugin by Lina: https://github.com/Pixeltica/AsepriteExtensions

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh perfect thank you!!

[vernal crest]

(You can see tile indexes in Aseprite natively with the grid turned on but the extension works well for seeing a lot of indexes at a glance)

[obtuse wigeon]

Given I'll be using it on my second monitor wen defining the indexes the plugin certainly will be of use

[gray bear]

i don't know how to do that, my editdata code blocks have stuff, they just don't take

[gentle rose]

at this point it might help if you send the entire mod zip / content file if there's just one, bea, so people can see if they can replicate the problem

[gray bear]

requires chu's have more kids

but i mean, ur gonna need to have some kids

and marry shane

[sudden tartan]

i dont think andy HAS a kissing index because hes not originally marrigeable. Is the a position in his character file that i place it?

[gray bear]

not in that order

did u not create a new sprite sheet? he's not datable either

[vernal crest]

Just anywhere at the top level inside his Data/Characters entry

[sudden tartan]

is this correct? It doesnt seem to change anything

[vernal crest]

Looks right, try doing patch export Data/Characters in SMAPI and then going to the file path it tells you it exported it to and open that up to check if it's 42 in there. This screenshot is a patch export of Data/Characters with SVE normally and you can see his is 28 there.

Oh, but you've still got his CanBeRomanced set to false so of course he won't use his kiss sprite. How are you attempting to kiss him if he's unromanceable?

[gray bear]

can't kiss if no date

[sudden tartan]

im actually making a patch for an existing mod that doesnt HAVE any sprites added

he is marrigeable and whatnot

[vernal crest]

If that's the file you're using to edit him, you're going to either overwrite what the other mod is doing or the other mod will overwrite you.

[sudden tartan]

this is all the mod overrites, but should i put it here instead?

[vernal crest]

What is that other file then?

[sudden tartan]

the other file is from sve itself, i was trying to test it before adding it to the mod file

[vernal crest]

And no, you can't put his KissSpriteIndex field into animationDescriptions

So you're trying to patch a mod that is patching a third mod (which is SVE)? Is that right?

[sudden tartan]

the mod is a mod of sve that makes him romanceable, but it doesnt actually have any of the animations, just dialogue

ive gotten the portrait, wedding and flower dance animations in just fine, this is the only one causing issue

[vernal crest]

Does the romanceable mod add a KissSpriteIndex for him?

[sudden tartan]

it does not

[vernal crest]

Well, do the patch export that I suggested before and see what that says

[sudden tartan]

alright

[obtuse wigeon]

Here was me thinking building Aseprite was easier on linux, love a missing executable, damn you modding!!

[sudden tartan]

how do i import it back into the mod?

[vernal crest]

I don't know what you mean. What are you trying to import and why?

[sudden tartan]

in the patch export, it shows is kissindex is 16, which is what is showing up in game, but his character file does not have a kiss index

[vernal crest]

Well, something is giving him that kiss index

So it's going to be a mod that you haven't looked at

!log Can you grab me a log please?

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[vernal crest]

(Make sure it's from when you were in a save, not just going to the main menu. If you have been in game and since quit, just go get the log from then. DOn't have to go back in game.)

[sudden tartan]

alright one moment

i think i sent them right??

https://smapi.io/log/e7bb55f7eabc4ed29da0970085d48e5f

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 56 C# mods and 95 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[vernal crest]

Only two mods are editing Data/Characters and they're SVE and Romanced Andy

And SVE doesn't set his KissSpriteIndex either

[sudden tartan]

when i did the export, it had his sprite at 16

[vernal crest]

But when I did a patch export of Data/Characters with SVE it was 28

[sudden tartan]

which was what was being shown

weird

ours seem to be different

[vernal crest]

Can you please link to this Romanced Andy's mod page?

[sudden tartan]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/35914

[vernal crest]

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[sudden tartan]

the person was having the same issue it seems