making-mods-general

[brave fable]

more of a / kind of feeling

[oblique meadow]

Because chaos is more fun

[urban patrol]

i don't even try for chaos, chaos just happens to me

[oblique meadow]

If I plan for chaos when I design my farms, those weird interactions aren’t bugs. They’re features. And you’re welcome

[lucid iron]

oh nic

i seen ppl us a big schedule anim offset (spacecore) to do that

[vernal crest]

Why spacecore?

[urban patrol]

see i actually tried that believe it or not, but it prevented being able to talk to the NPC because they were too far away

[lucid iron]

in that case the anim is also kinda big

hm i guess if its not an offset but genuinely a very big schedule anim then u can talk to em

[oblique meadow]

Did you try yelling?

[lucid iron]

cus they r internally on the ground

[urban patrol]

oh that might work yeah

very very tall NPC secretly

let me try invisibly buildings tile and reverse my passable back layer, and if that doesn't work i'll do big animation

[uncut viper]

sentences designed by the utterly deranged

[urban patrol]

ok it needs an offset BUT it works!

you can't walk up there but you can talk to him

[obtuse wigeon]

That is not what I was expecting, however it is what I need, that is amazing and that is the diserving place for a feline

[oblique meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-gif-13416523993819352338

[urban patrol]

any idea why he would have no shadow here? this is the schedule entry:
"spring": "0800 {{ModId}}_Cannery 14 6 2 catking_cat_catnapSideways \"Strings\\Schedules\\CatKing:CatSleep.000\"/1100 {{ModId}}_Cannery 12 19 2 catking_cat_bathe/1200 {{ModId}}_Cannery 12 19 2 catking_human_throne/1400 {{ModId}}_Docks 38 10 2 catking_human_sunbathe/1830 {{ModId}}_Docks 22 10 2 catking_human_smoke/2300 bed",

his next animation is a laying_down one, but i didn't think that would be affecting him while walking there

[obtuse wigeon]

If I want to remove part of an image using "EditImage", do I use a blank png with the "PatchMode": "Replace" key value?

[brave fable]

i suppose that would work, Overlay would have no effect using a blank image. you would need it to be the same size as your target area, of course

[obtuse wigeon]

I wonder why it isn't working then, When I patch export, the image still shows the shirt as being there

{
    "Action": "EditImage",
    "Target": "Characters/Farmer/shirts",
    "FromFile": "Assets/BaseTop.png",
    "ToArea": {"X": 8, "Y": 416, "Width": 8, "Height": 32},
    "PatchMode": "Replace"
},

Oh wow I forgot to save the file, it does actually work I just forgot the most basic principle

[drowsy pewter]

do u know you can create a new invisible shirt?

[brave fable]

maybe he's making one dyeable

[obtuse wigeon]

This is to make fashion sense sleevless tops not show the vanilla white sleeves below, it's fully for personal use and this is much easier (yet more janky) than making a new top

[brittle pasture]

we're in luck, someone has already corrected the injustice: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/35210

[tired matrix]

guys i need help. im trying to make my custom npc compatible with they stay with you mod by luo, but i keep getting the same errors no matter what i change, am I doing something wrong or missing anything? https://smapi.io/json/none/48614fa188ff4af5950bbdacd796c4a8

following everything i could find about this mod but still

ignore the last two errors

[urban patrol]

check that your file path is correct. it probably needs to be assets/Xavier_Summer.png depending on your file structure and how you've named it

[tired matrix]

its bc i have one sprite for each season

[brave fable]

you should proofread your file, there's a number of mistakes

[urban patrol]

also your tokens can't be found it seems like

[urban patrol]

i know, but it can't find those files

[tired matrix]

it's the mods token but shouldnt they work when i have stay with you mod?

[brave fable]

in your second Changes entry you have Target: Mods/{{ModId}}/XavierTrinklet, and you're attempting to load one asset from four files with no conditions

[tired matrix]

what's this?

[urban patrol]

i don't think you can use another mods' dynamic token

[brave fable]

i also don't understand why in your first entry you have a key {{Modid}}_{{Modid}}_XavierTrinket (which also doesn't match the Id inside that entry)

[tired matrix]

so i would have to make a folder for the person to inset inside the other mod's folder?

[tired matrix]

i got a bit confused last night lol

[tired matrix]

like portraiture?

[urban patrol]

if you're just trying to load your own portraits, then no

[brave fable]

portraiture is a bad example, it's very irregular

[urban patrol]

you do however have to make sure you have the correct filepath

[tired matrix]

im trying to make my character be usable through the other mod

so he follows the player

[brave fable]

also in your third Changes entry targeting mushymato.TrinketTinker/Tinker, you're constantly referring to an NPC named Xavier which doesn't exist, since your NPC is named {{ModId}}_Xavier (and you do the same later on in every PLAYER_NPC_RELATIONSHIP check)

[tired matrix]

the other mod offers a custom npc feature but needs to be in the other mod's folder, i wanted to make it work using my mod

[ocean sail]

@tired matrix You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[tired matrix]

[tired matrix]

its xavier

the items are modid

[brave fable]

is that so

[tired matrix]

i made everything modid except the npc actually

[brave fable]

oh this is someone's existing npc named Xavier isn't it

[tired matrix]

its my npc

[brave fable]

ah. is it already released?

[tired matrix]

not yet

i need to figure this out and the heart events first

[brave fable]

definitely rename them to {{ModId}}_Xavier before release to avoid compatibility issues

[tired matrix]

he's a famous character so the girls asked if i could make him follow you with the other mod

[tired matrix]

yeah i will its just for now

[brave fable]

good habits and best practices start early 😌

[tired matrix]

just wanted to make him work by just putting the mod inside the mods folder

idk what to do w the tokens or if its even possible to do what im trying to do

[brave fable]

if you want to use dynamic tokens from other mods, and if it's actually required that you do, you can use this framework:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28284

otherwise you can define the tokens yourself with the values you want in your main content.json file, per the CP docs

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#dynamic-tokens

[tired matrix]

thank you ❤️

[urban patrol]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8373d5439df7403a9f91281da65e677a my NPC doesn't have a shadow on spring at 1400 or sunday going to/arriving at the saloon at 1500

i can send the animations json as well but i don't know if that's related

[brave fable]

are catking_human_sunbathe and catking_human_smoke oversized spacecore animations?

[urban patrol]

nope, neither

the sunbathe one is laying_down, but smoke isn't

[brave fable]

do they appear correctly in other schedule points, i.e. times and places?

[urban patrol]

those animations?

[brave fable]

yep

[urban patrol]

yeah, i think the only time the shadow is gone is those two times

that i've found at least. i've tested monday-next tuesday

except wednesday was rainy

i'm on wednesday right now and i can confirm i see the shadow at 1400

[oblique meadow]

Dang. Nic saw the shadow. Six more weeks of winter

[urban patrol]

honestly this isn't even a huge bug except for that it baffles me. i've made 5 other NPCs before and never seen this lol

[brave fable]

i'm starting to believe that a lot of these are just 'classic nic issue'

[urban patrol]

🙃

[brave fable]

those wonderful edge cases noone else would ever find

[urban patrol]

changing my name to 'i break things'

would pathos like to know about it? honestly i don't care much about it, players can deal, but i just find it odd

[brave fable]

i'd try and coax a nerd into looking at it first

[urban patrol]

sounds good

getting my sniper rifle at the ready

[latent mauve]

Well, laying_down animations definitely turn off the shadow when active but I don't know why it would take effect earlier than that part of the schedule.

[urban patrol]

yeah, and it doesn't even do it every single time that animation is used in that same location lol

[drowsy pewter]

sorry for the shit image but is this area in cindersap utilized by anyones mod (ie for an npc or something?)

[hallow prism]

try pinging tia

she will list you the 5 different npcs with areas here 😄

[obtuse wigeon]

I know right behind the pink tree the SVE frontier far, and grandpas farm opens it for a shortcut

[hallow prism]

(joke, i don't know how many there are, but i believe there may be a couple at least)

[drowsy pewter]

@brittle ledge drop the npc lore pls

[obtuse wigeon]

and Wildflours nooks and crannies adds a warp in the top left corner

[drowsy pewter]

i see

I can work around shortcuts. just brainstorming

[ornate locust]

Alchemistry has something in the area IIRC

And there's Ranger Taro

[obtuse wigeon]

Alchemistry is further west towards secret woods entry

pretty much right behind wizard tower

[brave fable]

imo it's a fool's errand trying to find free spaces in the world for map patches. if someone doesn't have one now, you will, and someone else after

[ornate locust]

I remember a bunch of mods at once stepping on each other's toes in the area, some of them may have moved around since I last looked

[drowsy pewter]

i also agree, just scoping it out

[obtuse wigeon]

I know sve plonks jaz a tile to the west of the pink tree

(either it's SVE or vanilla I can't rememeber)

[drowsy pewter]

vanilla

[ornate locust]

There's one more too but I'm totally blanking on it

probably wake up and remember it at like 4 AM

[hallow prism]

free spaces on world map are worth trying imo but yeah it's good to have backup plans

so there's no harm in asking in case you can make whatever you have in mind work

[ornate locust]

Oh wait

Lunna

Lunna's thing is up there somewhere too, it may be to the west though

[hallow prism]

i thought both lunna and alchemestry were closer of the secret wood

but tia will know

[obtuse wigeon]

Lunna's is below the wizard tower I think

[hallow prism]

(and maybe have a screenshot 😄 )

[obtuse wigeon]

If I had the game open I'd ss but it takes a good 10 mins just to load to the main menu

[drowsy pewter]

Uh yeah if ur not sure on the location better not to list it

or ill have too many mods to look into

[obtuse wigeon]

I've just re found SinZ's debugger that shows NPC paths, I'll start up the game and check, along with a patch export which will show only some things I have located there, I'll let you know what I find

[dusky sail]

Enya the caitsith has a single tile warp in the upper left but its next to the fence not on it

[brave fable]

the futility of compatibility refuse to compromise, embrace your creativity

[ornate locust]

or embrace the tetris

[obtuse wigeon]

I prefer embracing the chaos, may it consume you

[dusky sail]

If i ever add a new area im just gonna use central station this map overlap stuff feels like a pain

[drowsy pewter]

well i should be a little considerate if im adding a map patch to a decently popular mod lol

[obtuse wigeon]

That's what I've been doing, even for testing lcoations, it's just so much easier

[dusky sail]

I dont care if it doesnt make sense to take a bus there </3

[ornate locust]

https://tenor.com/view/piece-line-god-angry-and-gif-23972352

[drowsy pewter]

not fair of me to accidentally delete someones home without knowing

[ornate locust]

thank you, Discord gifs for exactly what I wanted

[lucid mulch]

we need a mod mapper for stardew https://modmapper.com/
we semi have it for festival positions, but not much more

[ornate locust]

that'd be amazing

[obtuse wigeon]

That may not actually be too hard? as it's mostly JSON and XML parsing with a bit of C# added maps tossed in

[lucid mulch]

the annoying part becomes conditional patches and deduplicating translation mods

[obtuse wigeon]

Deduplicating wouldn't matter too much if you're just getting the tiles occupied

[lucid mulch]

also for certain maps you might need to run a multiverse for stuff like SVE town vs regular town, and detect which universe the patch was intended for

[ornate locust]

Thinking of the patch situation on my own stuff, that can get... complicated

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh good point, I didn't think about multiple major town maps

[ornate locust]

Yeah, SVE specific and non

[lucid mulch]

if it wasnt for the fact I have a bunch of other projects I might actually work on it

as I think I could solve it automatically for detecting Loads as an automated point creating another universe and HasMod checks to know which universe to route it into

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm now debaiting whether I can fit it into the amount of projects I have, thankfully, I'm not getting bug reports on my mods anymore so That frees up some time

[dusky sail]

It would definitely be a really useful tool

[humble timber]

how did i randomly draw like 2.5 portraits, half of a general map for my expansion, and 18 item sprites today lmao

[dusky sail]

Zoomies

[humble timber]

i now understand how people make giant item mods: they just. blink and suddenly there's 20 items

[lucid mulch]

my main project currently is a rebuild of the Profiler website so stuff like this in the old site where you are jumping in and out, now becomes

[dusky sail]

Untrue i do 2 items a day for months on end while sobbing

[obtuse wigeon]

I think I can make a basic shows what tiles are free vs which aren't, but making it so that you can select specific conditions may not be feasable for a little while, Hosting it may be an issue on my side however, Not much chance of affording that rn

[obtuse wigeon]

Good font choice, also Loving the redesign, nice work!

[ornate locust]

need to find a way to induce mod zoomies

[lucid iron]

Can i have dark mode and gamer rgb

[dusky sail]

Im so close though... i just have to draw like 16 more things

[lucid iron]

For peak performance

[obtuse wigeon]

enough caffine to sedate a horse, that's how, it's not advisable but it is doable

[ornate locust]

Doesn't work for me

[brave fable]

i hate to be the one to tell you caffeine is not a sedative

you may have wasted some coffee

[ornate locust]

it just gives me "I want to do something and I cannot make myself choose a thing to do" zoomies

well that too

[urban patrol]

if you ingest enough caffeine to stop your heart, does it count as a sedative then

[lucid mulch]

dark mode may be on the table but I'm not a designer so picking a palette is #effort.

For the flame graph I think I just need to replace white with <undefined colour> and its 95% there and then need to figure out what the tooltip should be, but I still have to replace the stock tooltip anyway

[dusky sail]

No i think it counts as a medical emergency

[lucid mulch]

stopped heart is less "sedative" and more "died"

[obtuse wigeon]

colour pick github, that's basically what I did (but I also grayscale it bc github has a mild blue tint)

[vernal crest]

My recommendation for this is to remove all the animations and check if the shadow reappears. If it does, add them back in one by one until it disappears again.

[lucid mulch]

I'm probably going to just cheat and colour pick off chrom(ium) devtools instead as it has a dark mode flame graph already

[obtuse wigeon]

can C# find map edit that are yet to be applied? wondering if a better option is a mod like the Shareable mod list then upload a files with map edit info

[urban patrol]

i'll try that and report back 👍

[lucid mulch]

Technically yes, but short answer no

[obtuse wigeon]

Great answer, parsing it shall be

[lucid mulch]

My debugger mod arguably can, and patch summary very much does

But my debugger mod also partially cheats by also replacing the data structures cp uses when json deserializing

Though any c# map edit (not cp) is effectively unknowable statically

[brave fable]

manually parsing content files sounds abysmal, you're better off reflecting CP's cache (if it exists) and behaviours (if they're usable)

[gentle rose]

yeah, some mods have incompat with themselves if you consider config options

[obtuse wigeon]

I suppose a thread that anyone can jump in on isn't the worst idea to have reguarding this, especially if it is to come to fruition

[lucid mulch]

If you want the global map of every patch, running every mod to have cp build said cache is also undesirable

And runs into problems with hasmod guarded includes not evaluating if it's false

[gentle rose]

tbh I would find parsing them myself to be easier but incomplete, because as always, what about c#

[lucid mulch]

If I was building it I would be doing external parsing for all of cp and then have a secondary data ingestion source of running select c# mods and exporting the map state

[gentle rose]

(it's a trick question, btw, the correct answer is "if someone is doing this via c# that's their problem")

[lucid mulch]

So you can do as much as possible that just runs off the pathos mod dump without thinking

[obtuse wigeon]

C# is the outlier in this case, JSON can be parsed to a standard that I'd deem acceptable at least, C# would require either manual searching or mod makers adding the info if their mod adds map edits and so would always be lacking

[lucid mulch]

Also a c# parser could just use cp as a library and have it parse it anyway

[gentle rose]

one of the things I would love to do eventually but that is absolutely mad and likely impossible, is a build of the game/a mod that iterates on every possible set of conditions that would yield a different result, and finds what the state of maps and NPCs is

[lucid mulch]

But I would probably do an external one anyway so you can do superpositions on conditionals, cp trying to make things immutable and precompute stuff gets in the way for this

[gentle rose]

(within reason and evaluation for date and time based conditions ofc)

[obtuse wigeon]

load order would also be a factor to be aware of, one mod may remove tiles on the building layer after another has added them

with reguards to the things discussed, would this be a feasable thing to achieve in the time frame of like 4 months, from nothing to something of value to the community?

[gentle rose]

it depends™

[obtuse wigeon]

That's the answer I expected, but hoped not to recieve

[lucid mulch]

depending on how much of that 4 months is spent doing it, skill level and knowledge of the data structures

[gentle rose]

and the approach

and the speed of the author

[lucid mulch]

I think if I actually focused I could have something in a weekend, but I've worked with the mod dump prior and work in the CP internals a lot

[gentle rose]

most people here could write a working version of my portrait framework in a weekend tbh

[lucid mulch]

with many things, a lot of time goes into asking the right question, answering the question relatively speaking is easy

[obtuse wigeon]

Well theres only one way to get a definitive answer, I'll give it a shot making a prototype and see how much I can achieve in like 48 hours, depending on the result I'll consider the implications further

[lucid mulch]

for an initial prototype I would simplify the problem and ignore the multiverse and conditions, get something at all, and only once that is working consider the multiverse

[obtuse wigeon]

That's what I was going to do, only work on a couple of mods first, figure a decent way to parse them, then figure a way to display the result

[tired matrix]

the tokens dont work. if you guys were begginers how would you do it?

[lucid mulch]

define tokens dont work

[tired matrix]

this

trying to make my custom npc be a companion in they stay with you mod

[uncut viper]

did you alter your json after you were told that you cannot just write someone elses token in your mod and have it work

[tired matrix]

yeah but its not working, i tried the mod too

what would be the simplest way to do this?

[uncut viper]

then you need to post a new json uploaded to the smapi validator for people to look at, as well as a new error log

[tired matrix]

its not the tokens i think, the character just isnt appearing at all

[brave fable]

(is there still a height limit to spritesheets?)

[obtuse wigeon]

(Not that I'm aware of)

[tired matrix]

i entered the custom npc file in the original mod and set everything up for my npc but doesnt appear even if its in the official mod folder

[gentle rose]

(this sounds like a Crime Question™, whatcha up to?)

[brave fable]

(i'm up to 3440 pixels tall in the pants sheet)

[obtuse wigeon]

(The biggest height I've seen a tilesheet is 4096 I think)

[dusky sail]

Thats so many pants....

[gentle rose]

we still can't do anything without up to date jsons and logs, please

[uncut viper]

the game defines 4096 as the safest maximum size

it doesnt use that definition but it has it

and i figure probably for good reason

[gentle rose]

maybe a monogame limitation?

[uncut viper]

something to do with GPUs

[urban patrol]

pantspocalypse

[uncut viper]

and texture memory or w/e idk ask atra

[dusky sail]

CA would never want to put you through more pants than 4096 pixels would allow

[brave fable]

(each pants is 192x688 so it doesn't take very many pants to reach 4k ultra hd)

[lucid mulch]

Depends on the opengl texture size limit which is hardware dependant but 4096x4096 iirc is considered the main minimum but some hardware can go higher

[brave fable]

(i suppose i can just expand the width from 1920 to 3840 and have double the pants (or just save the collections of coloured pants to their own files (probably better)))

[obtuse wigeon]

Can a shortcut to SMAPI be anywhere as long as it points to the mod folder starting from the Stardew root folder?

[brave fable]

well the shortcut won't be pointing to the mod folder, it'll be pointing to the smapi executable in the game folder

unless you mean a specific mod folder override which would

[gentle rose]

oh that's "only" 50

[obtuse wigeon]

Ye sorry, pointing to the SMAPI exe with the --mods-path arg reletive to stardew root

[brave fable]

sure, shortcuts can go anywhere. except maybe the recycle bin

[gentle rose]

they can go in the recycle bin I think

[hard fern]

Pants... Why do pants

[gentle rose]

just might not be advisable

[urban patrol]

are there minimum dimensions for a portrait sheet for an NPC or can i have just one portrait

[brave fable]

dwarf has one, wizard has two. go mild

[urban patrol]

sick

does that change if i'm using the appearances system? like do the number of portraits have to match?

[ornate locust]

I think you can go mild no matter what

[urban patrol]

✊

[ornate locust]

"go mild" is my new favorite

[hard fern]

uhh i would personally them the same just for the sake of like. consistency. and dialogue keys (Idk what you're using the appearances for so dialogue might not even be a problem)

[urban patrol]

yeah the second set probably won't even have any dialogue (it's a character who turns into a crow at night)

very cinderella fairy tale

[hard fern]

i misread that as crow LOL

[brave fable]

i don't believe they need to have the same number of portraits per file, checking out vanilla both leah and jodi are missing some frames in their Beach portraits.

[hard fern]

*cow

i misspelled my own misreading

[ornate locust]

Yeah not all the portrait sets have the same ones.

[urban patrol]

mild here we come

[ornate locust]

as long as the birb doesn't have dialog that uses different expressions, go un-nuts

[hard fern]

ive been staring at a blank canvas on aseprite

😭

what am i doing

[urban patrol]

a vital step of the artistic process

[hard fern]

im basically just like.

copy pasting

ugh i kinda dread it though

bc i have to adjust so many colors

[urban patrol]

maybe put on some music or call a friend to chat or something while doing it

[hard fern]

i am friendless (not exactly true but they're all in different timezones lol)

[drowsy pewter]

felt thay

[hard fern]

im watching someone cook all the stardew villager's favorite foods

[ornate locust]

I like to podcast when I zone out and do art

something that'll be long and won't end before I do

[obtuse wigeon]

My friends are in the same timezone, I'm the one that isn't I'm 12 hours out of sync to the actual UK time

[ornate locust]

it's like having friends but they can't hear you and are time zone independent :V

[obtuse wigeon]

I quite enjoy piano music in the background, it's not silent, but it's quiet enough to not distract me

[hard fern]

🤔 hmm now, i wonder. does anyone know if there's a vanilla machine suitable enough for the making of perfume.

[urban patrol]

yeah classical or instrumental is my go to

[ornate locust]

Alternatively a movie I have seen five thousand times, those aren't distracting. I always know what I missed if I zoned out

[urban patrol]

i could see it happening in a cask

[ornate locust]

Perfume is oil and alcohol

[urban patrol]

isn't perfume just alcohol + scent + oil

[obtuse wigeon]

perfumes are primarily alcohol, so I'd say cask or keg

[urban patrol]

yeah

[hard fern]

yup, but the scent and oil are like. mixed bc the scent is trapped in the oil and stuff? Idk there were are lot of big words on the article i read

[ornate locust]

Also you have to let it sit a long time and age

because it smells differently as time passes

The oil can basically just be an essential oil

[hard fern]

funny enough i have vanilla scented hand sanitizer that became kinda liquidy and got a lot darker in color and stronger in smell

[obtuse wigeon]

I believe vanilla degrades with exposure to the sun too, leading to the darkening

[hard fern]

cask could work but it also kinda scares me

[ornate locust]

though the ageing may depend on type. I dunno, I have several articles here, this one looked simple enough that maybe it could be Stardew translated

[hard fern]

bc afaik you need a separate mod to do Things With It

[ornate locust]

huh looks like you can use "Sweet Almond Oil" as a "carrier oil" along with a scent oil to make a perfume oil.

lotta math in this

[hard fern]

if only nuts were real in stardew

[ornate locust]

Hey we have hazelnuts

that's an singular nut

Anyway, seems like a really simple way to go would be like... oil + smell thing = keg?

[hard fern]

hmm yeah

[ornate locust]

I'd say close enough, you got the oil, the smell, and the alcohol implication

[hard fern]

i know the whole point of an oil maker is to Make Oil but i'm probably going to make the recipe for the essential oil require oil to be put back into the oil maker along with the scent of choice bc the oil is a binder

🤔

or like. glue. whatever

cuz like how r u gonna get oil out of a melon

[ornate locust]

Yeah it's the "carrier oil." It's like rice

rice carries the flavor, it carries the smell

[hard fern]

hm and i need like. a totally plain normal alcohol.

i can make harvey sell it

[ornate locust]

Harvey: pam, no

[obtuse wigeon]

It does also have medical uses in wound cleaning and disinfecting, although that's usually isopropyl, but just labeling it alcohol works

it's not like stardew to be IRL accurate anyway

[ornate locust]

funny fact: Everclear's apparently pretty good for it

you just need some pure-ass alcohol with no color that doesn't have added smell

(still gonna smell like alcohol, but that goes away mostly in maceration and the rest evaporates)

[unique tusk]

I think I need some help, I'm following this tutorial: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data#How_do_I_get_to_a_custom_location_in-game.3F and just trying to get the coding to work by adding in a customized version of the caldera that you can warp to by the community centre but whenever I walk up to the warp, it fades black like I'm changing locations but then I'm just still standing by the community centre???
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/0b49de0a35ab47dfb26cfc7152c5a434

[hard fern]

uh, is there anything in your log?

[vernal crest]

Can you share your log too please?

Also, you can test if the problem is with your map/location creation or with the warp by using debug warp Test_Fake.Caldera to warp straight there without using the Town warp.

[unique tusk]

I'll try this quickly! :o

[unique tusk]

How do I share my log?? ._.

[vernal crest]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[vernal crest]

It's the same website as the json validator, just a different page

[unique tusk]

https://smapi.io/log/eca1366de0574eb68bea5ca79010163b

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 11 C# mods and 5 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[vernal crest]

Thanks, but your log needs to be from the session in which you tried to use the warp. One where you didn't even load a save is almost never useful.

[unique tusk]

Oooohhh

Here it is with the session! :o
https://smapi.io/log/b161e994b36748ab97bacd82aca39655

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 11 C# mods and 5 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[hard fern]

looks like something wrong with ur location

[ornate locust]

Maybe this is a silly question

[vernal crest]

Odd, according to that log you don't have a Load patch for the map. Did you save the file after adding it?

[ornate locust]

but is it a problem that the tmx load is before the location creation bit?

[hard fern]

your map patch has the wrong path

"Target": "Maps/Test_Fake.Caldera", is what you loaded it to

"MapPath": "Test_Fake.Caldera" but this is your map path

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah it does need the Maps/ prefix

[ornate locust]

this is a general question for how this stuff works btw, I recall some parts of it load "in order" in regards to overwriting and I was wondering if extended to that

[unique tusk]

Oh! Am I supposed to load it to Town? :o

[hard fern]

no

use whatever Target you load your map to

[vernal crest]

No, It just needs to be "MapPath": "Maps/Test_Fake.Caldera"

[unique tusk]

Like this?

[vernal crest]

To my knowledge, all Load patches run before any Edit patches do, so it doesn't matter where the Load patch is. It definitely needs to happen before the Data/Locations edit though, so if where the patch was in the json matter it would need to be before it like it is now.

[unique tusk]

YIPEE THAT WORKED

[vernal crest]

Unrelated to that, but you should probably put your mod ID in the name of your map and location now in case you forget later.

[ornate locust]

I see! thanks!

the more you know 💫

[drowsy pewter]

whatever you do i personally recommend thinking abt automate playability as well

[livid palm]

hi all, i am new to stardew but familair with other cosy farming sims.
how can we adjusst mods here like if i play on steam or what ever?

[round dock]

Hi! This channel is for making mods, please see #modded-stardew instead 🙂

[hard fern]

Oh, yeah. I use automate so I'll make sure it works properly, and fix recipes if i need to

[lucid mulch]

specifically, a single load will run and will be the one with highest priority, and if no load happens SMAPI will try to have vanilla load it from an XNB (like Data/Locations). and only if something (Mod load or XNB) actually loaded it, will any edits run

[brave fable]

if anyone wants to play around with the new kimono, yukata, or hakama, feel free to load up the mod and ping me with feedback 👘

they won't appear in artemis' shop, just cjb item spawner

each of them comes as a shirt+pants pair in about a dozen colours each, though they don't mix-and-match well

nothing else new to look at, let me know if there's any weird-looking frames, wrong data entries, mismatched names, etc 🌻

[shut edge]

nice

[fading walrus]

PRETTY!!!

[patent lance]

@solemn roost: 5th anniversary of the #pokemon channel (365d ago)

[solemn roost]

I am aging at an absurdly fast pace...

remind me the 6th anniversary of the #pokemon channel in a year

hmmm i need to phrase it differently

remind me the 6th anniversary of the #pokemon channel in 365 days

[patent lance]

hopefully you don't mind if I end up a few hours off on that one, been a long day and I may doze off. (#6859556) (365d | <t:1789134024>)

[solemn roost]

alrighty, keep on modding everyone! you make every stardew player a little happier every day 🙂

[brave fable]

hi zar 😌 bye zar

[verbal narwhal]

the modentry.cs file is just for standardisation, right?
I can put parts of modentry.cs under the same namespace as sibling e.g. frogspawns.cs or tankhandling.cs, right?
this mf is so long - working! but long

[tame anchor]

Excuse me, I'd like to create a custom special task board in my mod. Could anyone tell me if there's any way to achieve this?🥺

[brave fable]

you can make your project however you like, with any namespaces you like, and as many files as you like. it's only required that your project contains some class that extends Mod class and implements the Entry method

[verbal narwhal]

thanks!!

[brave fable]

alternatively you can just lump absolutely everything into one file, even one class. if you're quite mad

[verbal narwhal]

hello this is me right now

[brave fable]

i mean.. if it works

[verbal narwhal]

if anyone wants to give their opinion on some of my writing, I would be very happy as well. Because the sentence in my language (or only in my head in my language) sounded really nice, but reading it in English sounds very very sober and idk purely objective on the first half and weirdly personal on the second!

[vernal crest]

Pop it in here https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1263202101803352106 and you'll probably get a few takers.

[verbal narwhal]

thanks!!

[brave fable]

i wouldn't say it's really that important to structure your mods unless it's getting unmaintainable or derstandable, since most mods are just made by one person and aren't ever reused or extended

but ideally you want to write and structure them such that people can pick them up, read them, understand them, and submit changes if need be

it's unlikely that people will submit improvements or fixes to a simple mod. it's only going to get less likely if they can't figure out how the mod works

[verbal narwhal]

I mean this isnt meant to get picked up, I think this might cause a brain damage to some when they see the overall structure haha :D

but if I decide to make this usable for others, I will definitely either restructure it or make a framework from it

[brave fable]

it's not necessarily about others using your mod's features, but rather contributing to the codebase. but again, it's already unlikely as it is

[lucid iron]

I think it's more about me being able to figure out where i implemented X feature

[brave fable]

well yes, you do also need to be able to read your own project lol

[verbal narwhal]

I mean I am also tempted to use resharper and cleanup code more but that would need prior good setting up

[tiny zealot]

+1 organizing your source files is for you first, future you second, and potential others third

you don't need to "clean up" code unless it's difficult to maintain. "cleaner" code doesn't necessarily have better runtime characteristics

[ivory plume]

I like incremental refactoring: instead of one big rewrite (which often doesn't work out very well), just make your code a little bit cleaner or better structured each time you work on it.

[agile flame]

how do you mange all your mods and nuget and all of that while still being a mod

do you even sleep?

[ivory plume]

Sometimes!

[agile flame]

i genuinly have been asking my friends this question for the past 2 weeks

you are just so productive 😭

i wish i was like that

[ivory plume]

Mostly I just focus on one priority at a time and cycle through them. For example: I worked on updates for my mods at the start of the month, now I'm working on the other mods I maintain, then I'll work on Stardew Valley for a bit, then I'll probably work on the next SMAPI update, then back to my mods to restart the process. So I'm always working on something, but I don't try to work on everything at once.

[torpid sparrow]

Do you do this full-time Pathos?

Making/maintaining mods, I mean

It gets confusing with stardew mods and moderator mods both being mod mod mod mod

[ivory plume]

Kind of. I have a full-time day job, then a lot of my free time goes towards modding + Stardew Valley.

[agile flame]

wdym man 😭

[torpid sparrow]

That's what I'd like to work toward. Still in school though

[gentle rose]

I mean, pathos is also a server mod

[gray bear]

ain't nothing he can't do

[round dock]

When was the last time you actually played the game, Pathos?

[gentle rose]

(despite what python devs may try to tell you...)

[agile flame]

we should give bro a break

[ivory plume]

I'm hoping to play that new Stardew Valley 1.3 content any day now!

[agile flame]

seriously when was the last time you ever touched grass

[gray bear]

that's, kinda mean man

[ivory plume]

(Not much grass in the middle of the city, but I do touch pavement regularly too! It's important to have a balance, so you're not spending all your time on one hobby.)

[vernal crest]

I'm pretty sure Pathos stole all my energy and that's why I have a fatigue disorder and he has the achievement power of multiple people /j

[gentle rose]

the fae but for energy

[fading walrus]

I manifest a nice park for you

[ivory plume]

(I'm mostly just a workaholic; I feel very dissatisfied if I haven't done at least one productive thing each day.)

[round dock]

(don't forget to hydrate a lot, Pathos!)

[vernal crest]

Being productive is a form of fun prove me wrong

[fading walrus]

Also
Make sure you're not shrimping

I say, actively unshrimping

[gentle rose]

being a hypocrite is also a form of fun

[round dock]

scampi

[brave fable]

speaking of work-work balance, so very nearly done with mod updates. just as soon as i finish the fun part, being the funny pictures for the new features

[fading walrus]

[true coyote]

thats where my drive went, hope its useful for you (sincerely, a chronic work hater and all around would rather die than work person)

[round dock]

Blueberry can i just say as a long time Sailor Moon fan, i absolutely adore this

[brave fable]

and then once the work's done, i can get back to work 😌

[gentle rose]

gonna make my website spami.oi

[fading walrus]

Spamioioio

[round dock]

https://tenor.com/view/oi-oi-oi-gif-27499130

Pufferchick but

[vernal crest]

I'm going to pretend my farmer is Majima

[true coyote]

oh blueberry, quick question, and definitely not something you would have to do if you didnt want to -- but would it ever be possible to make your raised garden beds able to be placed on the grandpa's shed map of SVE? totally get if thats something you dont want to pursue!

[gentle rose]

pufferchick butt

[lucid iron]

Blueberry what if i can inspect pants

[brave fable]

i've been blissfully able to ignore wide sleeves since sdv doesn't let you make larger ones, and now i have to draw them here they're kicking my cheeks

[lucid iron]

And then see the pretty mod page art

[round dock]

not yet a chick

[gray bear]

so many clothing can be so cursed

sleeves, pants

[brave fable]

ah, i suppose grandpa's shed isn't a building then. i'll look into adding a CanBePlaced Anywhere config option and whether it needs any extra changes to update the crop/sprinklers

[true coyote]

interesting! yeah I went to decorate in front of the building and was disappointed with the "you cant place that here" notif lol take your time on it obv not a huge rush or anything

also thank you for all your lovely mods! <3

[calm nebula]

(Say, how is the snake (or snakes?))

[brittle ledge]

Sailor Styles update???

[ivory plume]

(Just one snake so far, and doing well! Soon she'll be moving into a huge terrarium we custom-built for her.)

[gray bear]

(you have a snake? that's so cool)

[brave fable]

sleeves are perfectly simple and uncursed, you just need to fill in a select three pixels on the spritesheet to match the expected indices in the ApplySleeveColor method, which the decompile apparently says can be calculated with 128 + shirtIndex * 8 / 128 * 32 * shirtTexture.Bounds.Width + shirtIndex * 8 % 128 + shirtTexture.Width * 4 and the two pixels above it. which roughly corresponds to the armpits

[brittle ledge]

Snake tax

[gray bear]

too much math

[brave fable]

but since you can't change anything about the sleeves other than influencing the colour in this way it's not worth thinking about

[calm nebula]

(Ooh! That sounds cool!!!!)

[brave fable]

( @brittle ledge ⤴️ )

[brittle ledge]

Remind me in 6 hours to look at that (and maybe actually play? The game?)

[patent lance]

hahahaha idk why but the fact that you expect me to do anything is funny. we'll see what happens (#6859682) (6h | <t:1757627363>)

[gray bear]

tia gaming?!

[scarlet knoll]

I return yet again with another very specific code query. So, to summarize, I have an asset that I need to disable when another specific mod is installed. Not sure how to input that.

The longer version for more context: I'm making my dirt recolor compatible with MixedBag's Tilesheets, which has been WAY more complicated than I expected, but I'm here now and I've come too far to turn back. So! Since my recolor overlays, I'm having an odd issue in winter where the dirt I recolored for vanilla tiles gets layered with the recolor for MixedBag since they're both active at once, and they don't exactly line up. It looks weird. So I separated out the tiles that MixedBag changes into their own png asset, and I need that to disable when MixedBag's Tilesheets is installed. That way there's not two tiles overlaying each other and looking weird. First text that came to mind is "HasMod": "MixedBag.Tilesheets"=false" but I don't think that's right. Would it be more like "Weather |contains=Snow": false? But with HasMod? I have no idea what I'm doing here. Can you tell? lol

[lucid iron]

"HasMod |contains=othermodid": false is correct

[scarlet knoll]

Yay! Thank you! =^.^= I feel like I'm starting to learn stuff finally. lol I had the right idea!

[lucid iron]

But this is like, enable a thing Only when other mod not installed

You don't want to edit mixedbag tilesheets?

[scarlet knoll]

No, I'm trying to keep my mod self-contained, although that may not be very efficient. @.@ ; Very newb.

[brittle ledge]

It's less likely than you think!

[ivory plume]

(Here's my snake tax payment.)

[gray bear]

i believe in u

[torpid sparrow]

woah

thats a snake if ive ever seen one

[gray bear]

(she is absolutely lovely! noodle princess)

[torpid sparrow]

the first picture is so cute

[gray bear]

[ivory plume]

(She likes to squish into tiny places and then peek out slightly to watch.)

[torpid sparrow]

i support

how long is she?

[gray bear]

a lot of snakes do this and it's so hecking cuteee just peaking,,, baby

[brittle ledge]

thank you for this blessing, what a baby

[ivory plume]

She's between 4 and 5 feet; longer than average for a full-grown adult, and might still be growing.

[torpid sparrow]

she is so pretty

[calm nebula]

Adorable

[dusty halo]

Help me please

[gray bear]

whats up?

[dusty halo]

I've watched so many videos I've been trying all day but I just can't do it my smapi 4.3.2

And another mod

[lucid iron]

!mh

Ah bot ded

#1272025932932055121 is what y want

[oblique meadow]

Not that people are unwilling to help. It's just formatted and set up for more of a tech support system. One person asking the right question here and support will get buried

So yeah. Post in tech and you'll get help

[dusty halo]

I hope so

[oblique meadow]

I've seen some of the people in these channels work miracles. You're in good hands 😉

[fading walrus]

Adult she may be but she's a certified Permanent Baby nonetheless

[hallow prism]

pathos when testing custom pet licenses

[verbal narwhal]

Im so happy im finally getting the hang of things! I got so many cool things to work!

[calm nebula]

1.7 suggestion: pet snakes

(Jkjkkkjkjk)

[deep plume]

wait I love her 😭

[soft lance]

give me chocolate. someone, i need chocolate, i love chocolate

[verbal narwhal]

just before i jump into things head first, is there a working mod that creates functional terrariums or similar enclosures that work as functional pets?

[crude plank]

@woven token Hi, Magic Stardew is yours correct?

[rough briar]

how does one make animal variants appear without adding them to marnies animal menu? like how chickens are random colors

i successfully created a coop animal, i want to have its variants but for now its just blue loll

[gray bear]

skins i'd imagine

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Animal_data#Audio_.26_Sprite

[woeful iron]

Does nexus have an endpoint I can hit to grab the latest version of a mod programatically the way Vertex does?

[lucid iron]

Nature in the valley has some

[lucid iron]

https://gist.github.com/Mushymato/8a0e7a75b551673faaff43eee4a0c33d

https://app.swaggerhub.com/apis-docs/NexusMods/nexus-mods_public_api_params_in_form_data/1.0#/

[woeful iron]

Oh wowee

[lucid iron]

This is using v1 api idk if u can download files with v2 api yet

Here's v2 anyway https://graphql.nexusmods.com/

[iron ridge]

cant download things with v2 no

[lucid iron]

Rip ok

[iron ridge]

unless that thing is a collection

(you can only download the collection mod list/bundled mods, not the mods in it with v2)

[woeful iron]

Is v1 still supported? Have they stated end of life?

[iron ridge]

yes, no

[lucid iron]

They will have to open equiv api if they want their own app to keep working

What do you hope to achieve

[tiny zealot]

chu i love that this is called "bootleg stardrop" /gen

[woeful iron]

Thanks again folks!

[rough briar]

aghh im so confused on how to format this correctly

[oblique meadow]

?

[gray bear]

what do u have so far

[rough briar]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/765cfde2c253447a84085df830587092

im trying to add skin variants, but im just confused on how

[gray bear]

ah, that isn't how you do skins

wiki doesn't have an example so lemme, give u one of mine

[rough briar]

alr thank you 😭

[rough briar]

oohhh

[gray bear]

you can also have texture instead of babytexture and have both but this is the gist

[hard fern]

I think about like. Fish pond.... And how i only know how to make building skins lol.

Ugh i have 0 motivation to keep working on my mod rn... I hate buildingsss

[gray bear]

they're pretty similar

[hard fern]

Bea how to building

[gray bear]

just need more info

[hard fern]

Can i make building poof into existence

[gray bear]

like custom building or ?

yeah

[hard fern]

😔 i just hate drawing

[gray bear]

that's a different problem

the code isn't all too bad

but art hard

[rough briar]

the skins still arent showing up, atleast on the bazaar menu augjh

[gray bear]

bazzar doesn't show baby textures only adult

should still work if u buy a few?

[rough briar]

nope

[lucid iron]

I thought farm animal skins needed to have the adult texture at least

While baby is optional

There's probably a big blob of yellow warnings in your log from livestock bazaar checking this stuff

[rough briar]

well i JUST rebooted the game again rip

but no yellow

[gray bear]

nah those are valid

it just needs a single texture field

[lucid iron]

I think it's still just banned by LB for gui reasons then

[rough briar]

i got rid of the babytexture then, lets see if that works :,3

[rough briar]

they didnt appear in the lb menu with variants, i bought 3 and aged them for all to be blue

[gray bear]

so with LB you can never get different babies? well if they're connected to the adult texture yes

If u don't have skins for adult texture everyone will be blue

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/LivestockBazaar/blob/main/LivestockBazaar/Model/LivestockData.cs#L161

[rough briar]

fuck opened the wrong save LMAO

[lucid iron]

It's not really a case I thought about

[soft lance]

MY EYES

[lucid iron]

The reason is that the gui needs the adult texture to display icons

[gray bear]

no babie icons

[lucid iron]

So yeah i think it's currently just impossible for lb design reasons

I can change it but i want to get more info about the intentions

[rough briar]

okay, i only have the adult texture , theyre still blue

[lucid iron]

LB only lets u change them on purchase

[gray bear]

you'd need to rebuy em

[rough briar]

i did.. those are new ones

[lucid iron]

You can use AT to change post purchase

[gray bear]

did u pick the blue one? lb should let u select the one u want

[lucid iron]

You also gotta select them, if it worked then there should be arrows

[rough briar]

[lucid iron]

If it no work then send json

[gray bear]

are those correct texture names

[rough briar]

yes

[gray bear]

like are u loading them

[lucid iron]

Are u sure u didn't get any yellow

[verbal narwhal]

ohh I will check that out, it looks really neat! but it doesnt seem (from a quick glance) to add them to the pets system (like cat or dog), right?

[rough briar]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7b5ff36da5574a55a1de35d4850663bf

[lucid iron]

Nah it's more a bug catching system

The critters are unrelated to pets

What do you want to do?

[verbal narwhal]

mhm ok! but thanks!

[lucid iron]

Ok ur skins is in the wrong place

[verbal narwhal]

ah I think I already have a basic outline of how I will tackle it!

[lucid iron]

Move Skins to under "radical.Galactyke": {}

[verbal narwhal]

making invisible pet bowls that are refilled when the frog tank is interacted with and that count as pets and disabling the petbehavior as well as their schedules
and maybe then I can get the item drops scale with friendship

heck yeah I might even make a NPC/pet amalgam with frog heart events

[verbal narwhal]

I will reassess this idea when I got the pets to work lol

[lucid iron]

Im confused by why you want to disable a completely different system because frogs are there

[verbal narwhal]

oh no

I dont want to disable the system

[lucid iron]

You want the froges to roam the farm as Pet entities then?

[gray bear]

how does it not produce any errors when skins is outside the entire action

[verbal narwhal]

not to roam, but to count the interactions towards friendship progress

[rough briar]

idk but my log was just grey

[gray bear]

smapi weird sometimes

[rough briar]

only yellow i got was from a different mod lmaoo

[verbal narwhal]

I could achieve quite a lot by subclassing/inheriting(?) camisfrogs as subclass from sebfrogs,
I think I might be able to do smth similar with pet bowls

[lucid iron]

Well you can have multiple pets i suppose, but it seems kind of wacky to bother doing that if you could just track a simple friendship value

Oh my do not subclass TAS you will die

There's so much mp sync nonsense on that

[verbal narwhal]

tas?

[lucid iron]

Temporary animated sprite, the parent class of SebsFrogs

[verbal narwhal]

oh why should I die?

[lucid iron]

In general subclassing is something you should do very carefully in sdv modding

[verbal narwhal]

I already did that

[lucid iron]

Any new class you make is something you have to check for whether it'll go into the save, and whether it's going to sync in multiplayer

In the case of TAS most of the fields are modifieable to begin with, you can just grab the SebsFrogs instance and change it

From what I understand though the desire isn't really for the froges to become a full Pet entity right

Only that you want to have Friendship

[rough briar]

my galactykesd NOO

oh waiy

[lucid iron]

Each player has a friendship dictionary and u can put arbitrary friendship entries in

[rough briar]

i forgot a closing bracket hold on

[lucid iron]

Then u can visually display that in various menus by harmony patching those

[verbal narwhal]

ah but many modded spouseroom mods change/disable/delete sebsfrogs or swap textures with blank pngs

[lucid iron]

Yeah you may spawn sebsfrogs if you want

I'm just warning against making a subclass in general

[verbal narwhal]

this and maybe I can add the pet friendship requirement for eg grandpa too another way then

[rough briar]

okay now LB is giving me yellow lmao

[lucid iron]

If you tested everything and it works and no one's saves exploded bc they accidentally uninstalled ur mod then cool

But y'know it's better to not deal with it

[gray bear]

share

[rough briar]

kinda works ig

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b221dc95ac81446e9966e92a174a9eda for the json

[lucid iron]

Did u load the skin textures

[rough briar]

oops, not the rest

[verbal narwhal]

I mean if you want to take a look at the copy-pasted snippets from my code related to them, I can share it

but honestly i am a bit scared

because it is messy and probably redundant at quite some points but I know what does what and when to call what

:D

[lucid iron]

Well i am just giving advice as person who has been through some of this nonsense

[verbal narwhal]

do you want to look at it?
or what would "saves exploded" entail?

[lucid iron]

And my intention is just to tell you that "you can have friendship numbers that are safely without a real entity"

Save explode is like, if you have a class that is not a vanilla class make it into the save file

The save will no longer be playable if people ever uninstall mod

[verbal narwhal]

Oh yes, I will look into that! I think I can patch the „counts towards friendship with pets“ in another way, if I want that

Thanks for the warning!

[lucid iron]

I feel that for now you should keep SebsFrogs as they are simply for visual

You already control the point of interaction via tile action yes?

So from there you can track flags and such however you want

[verbal narwhal]

Yes!

Should I make it an entire independent class then?

[lucid iron]

Some stuff in vanilla is mail flags and stats

There's no need to make a class.

If it's just for code organization reasons sure make a static class

Or a singleton class

But it's not any sort of functional requirements

You may do everything in the tile action callback

[verbal narwhal]

Mhm ok

[keen geode]

Guys where do I find the crop sprites? Like the hand held ones-

[rough briar]

okay im at a loss, i cant get the textures to appear no matter what i try https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/844b021a18ee4bbf94da7d58b0ebb426
LB keeps giving me yellow saying it cant load the textures as well

[brittle pasture]

maps/springobjects

[keen geode]

THANKS!

[hidden locust]

Hi guys, I'm trying to add powdered and sweet condensed milk to the game, but I have no idea of what machine to use, should I make a new one?

[brittle pasture]

you loaded into Mods/radical.galactyke/galactyke_pink while using {{modid}}_galactyke_pink as the texture name

[hidden locust]

or maybe there is a framework with a machine for this

[brittle pasture]

make sure they match

[brittle pasture]

dehydrator probably

I’d be careful adding processing rules for vanilla products to vanilla machines because of the possibility of overlap, but in this case I think you’re fiiiiine

[rough briar]

THANK YOU it works now

[hidden locust]

thank you so much!

[rough briar]

there is this but i think its because i didnt load the blue version

but ecven when i view it, lb doesnt give me yellow

[rigid musk]

Dehydrator for the powdered, I think of using a preserves jar + sugar for the sweetened condensed tho I dont know if any other mods use that specific combination

[rough briar]

hmm,,

idk where that missing texture comes from, bc its not the blue one either

theres 5 colors,
blue
pink
orange
yellow
green

so why is there a 6th one trying to appear 😭

( 5 colors for the adults, black is for the babies )

[rigid musk]

are you doing 0-4 for whatever you're loading or

since the indexes or stuff starts at 0

[rough briar]

ahh,, how do i index them then..

[rigid musk]

like

where are they located on the sprite sheet

[rough briar]

oh

[rigid musk]

sorry im really tired so i might not be clear with what im saying lol

[rough briar]

yeah idk

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/0799761209364520baefc949d3e1ab73

[rigid musk]

maybe its because you didnt include the blue one in your skins section

maybe

[rough briar]

even when i did , its still shows a missing texture with no yellow ibn the logs

[rigid musk]

but it shows the other five you actually have?

[rough briar]

yea

it shows the blue, pink, orange, yellow, and green

blue is the first one, the missing texture is the last

oh. even when i add the blue skin it just rids the entire animal

huh.

[brittle pasture]

VMV has a milk + jar -> cream recipe

[rough briar]

okay hold on i fucked up something ugh

okay i give up for now

i fucked up somehow, i dont know how, but im too tired and stressed to fix it

[rough briar]

this is what the content json looks like

[brittle pasture]

that code looks correct, uh make sure you saved?

[hallow prism]

and there's a recipe mod too with a recipe here

(which hopefully i solved in term of compat with VMV but i'm not entirely sure)

(also sadly using VMV as a whole dependancy just for condensed milk is likely a bit too much but i have a candy maker)

[whole raptor]

i18nifier - SDV i18n web converter

Not sure if it'll come in handy, but if anyone has problems or questions with the i18nifier or see someone not knowing what's wrong, you can point people in that direction in the future.

[obtuse wigeon]

Tbin are binary format right? meaning no easy way to parse them without tiled or a custom built library (for an external language like javascript or python)

[lucid iron]

@iron ridge tbin js pls

[lucid iron]

This is generally true yes what are you trying to find

[obtuse wigeon]

Making a thing like Pillow's festival map, but for edits to other maps, currently in prototyping stage to see if it's an actually viable thing or not, step 1 of 3 is done but it was also the easiest part
(RE: #making-mods-general message) Also Pillow if you see this and are able to find the tbin js thing, please @me theres a good chance I'll miss it otherwise, thank you!

[gentle rose]

would be more viable in c# via xtile

plus that’s what the game uses so you know it parses similarly

[lucid iron]

You can probably make a cp fork that does funky things to the editmap action

Maybe force add a colored border or something

That's how me, bery lazy person, would go about it

[obtuse wigeon]

That is true hoever C# isn't something I know to be able to do that, so rn I'm just making a python script to parse the mods and maps for the info needed and outputting it a json file, then have something else like js parse the generated json file to show on a webpage

this is just to see if it's viable, actual implimentation will be a lot better

[lucid iron]

But yeah u should ask pillow about this cus i think there is a tbin reading library for js

[obtuse wigeon]

It would help bc I'm only able to get .tmx data at the moment, thank you for letting me know Pillow might know more

time to also read up on map layers again so I don't mistake what a layer does

[gentle rose]

btw, tiled has a headless js script mode

could probably just use that

[obtuse wigeon]

I didn't know about that, I shall cetainly look into it, seems like I'll be rewriting this in js rather than python

[keen geode]

I have no clue why it says this

WAIT

NVM HOLD THE HORSES

[calm nebula]

Holding horses, got it

[keen geode]

okay so I have no clue how to save it as Json file, it just doesn't let me

[stable grotto]

@scarlet knoll would you share those findings on vpr, mixedbag and sve in combination with your dirt mod?
I've never encountered issues with dirt replacement (directly integrated into mixedbag's code)

[true coyote]

What are you saving with? Notepad? Notepad++? Something else? When I save with regular notepad, I change the viewed files to all types and then literally name it file.json

And it will save as json

[craggy goblet]

Exactly that, renaming does the job ✨✨

[keen geode]

I do but it doesn't change it

notepad ye

[true coyote]

Weird, mine does, you are changing the drop down to all files?

[obtuse wigeon]

(theres a command here for hidden file types if anyone remembers it, that may help)

[true coyote]

Otherwise I think it doesnt let you

[keen geode]

I ammmm

[obtuse wigeon]

!fileextensions

[ocean sail]

Hidden File Extensions

Windows and Mac hide most file extensions by default. If you are creating or updating mods, it's helpful to show file extensions so that you can be sure all mod files are named correctly.

To show file extensions on your computer:

On Windows 10, open File Explorer, click on the View tab, then check the File Name Extensions box.

On Windows 11, open File Explorer and click on View > Show > File Name Extensions.

On Mac, open Finder, and in the menu bar, click on Finder > Settings (or Preferences) > Advanced, then check the Show all filename extensions box.

To use this command, type !fileextensions.

[obtuse wigeon]

try these, your OS may have file extensions hidden

[uncut viper]

i would also just save yourself the future trouble and just download Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code right now

[obtuse wigeon]

both Notpad++ and Visual Studio Code have better integration for JSON files, making it a lot easier

[scarlet knoll]

It seems like it was an overlay issue. I changed the priority of the dirt tilesheets and it started working. I think since VPR is an overlay too, it was just layering over the dirt recolor and making it look like the recolor wasn't applying. @.@ Now I'm having a new issue, but at least I know how to fix this one.

[stable grotto]

interesting, you should be able to ignore vpr in the load order entirely since it has a set early priority
the only one needing attention should have been mixedbag ... honestly not sure if I baked a priority into that one but I believe it to be just a general dependency based load order

if mixedbag loaded after your mod that would cause a layering issue

the vanilla tiles replaced in mixedbag aren't present in vpr at all

[scarlet knoll]

MixedBag has definitely needed the most attention, but I do always have a couple new tile issues after adding VPR back in, so idk. This mod has just thrown me for a loop at every opportunity. Lol

Not sure why that sent as a reply again, but okay. Lol

[stable grotto]

very strange (the loop part not the reply 😆)

could it be mods with vpr dependencies messing with yours?

[scarlet knoll]

Maybe? I do have a lot of mods installed, so it's definitely possible.

[keen geode]

I DID IT GUYS THANK YOU

[keen geode]

Omg btw I love you mods 💖

[patent lance]

@brittle ledge: look at that (and maybe actually play? The game?) (6h ago)

[scarlet knoll]

Awww, thank you! =^.^=

[stable grotto]

I'll suggest a minimal test setup, containing only the mods you need for your problem solving

if there's no issues in that it must be something not on your radar

[scarlet knoll]

That's what I did initially, but after I first thought I completed it I added them all back and then just forgot to remove them again when I made adjustments. @.@;

[junior tiger]

Hey, I really really need some help. I have followed the official Guide on how to make NPCs. I have all the sprites and JSON files, but it won't work. My character just stands in the middle of townsquare and doesn't move and can't be spoken too. This tells me that the sprites work, but nothing else really. The SMAPI also doesn't throw out any errors at all, so I don't even know how to trouble shoot. Can I request someone to help me please? I have never done mods before. 😭 If it's apropriate my DMs are open too

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

It sounds like they don't have a schedule loaded

[junior tiger]

I couldn't talk to them either, so it seems like their dialogue wasn't working either

[latent mauve]

Can I ask how you made the schedule and dialogue JSON? Did you load a blank first so the Target exists in the right place, and then do a patch to edit the entries with EditData?

[junior tiger]

I followed the the Guide on the wiki, so I just posted their stuff and edited it to match my file names and character 😭

[latent mauve]

The dialogue and schedule JSON files do not exist natively for custom NPCs, so you have to 'create' them first by loading something to those targets. Posting your JSON will help us make sure that was done correctly. 🙂

[junior tiger]

I assume I put them into the smapi.io and then post the links here?

[latent mauve]

The smapi.io/json link above will let you put your JSON file in there and give you a shareable link, yes

[junior tiger]

Okay, the manifest so far shows no errors
https://smapi.io/json/manifest/1dcb00b13aae4203a577e9c587e2d948

[lucid iron]

Please send us the content json

[latent mauve]

Yep, let's see your content.json

Manifest is clear, and if the manifest was the issue, you'd know, because SMAPI would give you an error loading the mod in the first place.

[junior tiger]

Content, got it. So sorry I'm still new https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/80e5e95dd78d4b1b98be4cb76f3c5472

Says no errors

[latent mauve]

Okay, can you pop your dispos.json in there as well and send us that link?

First thing to check is if your NPC's internal ID matches for your dialogue and schedule targets.

(You'll have separate links for each JSON file you send, that's normal)

[junior tiger]

Yes, of course!

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7dc0142390784ad196c1d496ae0c0073

Here it says the format field is missing, which wasn't in the template I got it from I believe

[latent mauve]

Yep, the Format field missing is fine if the JSON is being added with Action:Include

Only your content.json should ever have the Format field in it

[junior tiger]

Thank you, I'll try and remember that 🥺 is there anything else I could check?

[latent mauve]

For your blank.json, just to be sure, you have a JSON file with just a { } in it?

[junior tiger]

Yup 🫡 just as god intended

[latent mauve]

Excellent

[junior tiger]

Does there need to be a space between the brackets?

[latent mauve]

Nope, it's fine without a space between, just easier to see the characters that way in Discord.

[junior tiger]

Hmm that's fair then. I'm not sure what else to look for anymore 🙁

[latent mauve]

Well, I'm double checking that the targets are all correct first, after that we may need to look at the dialogue and schedule files

[junior tiger]

Oh, of course. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to rush you. Take your time, of course

[lucid iron]

Is this from the npc maker

Or more generally which template did you use

[latent mauve]

Is this from Tiakall's tutorial, PandaKitty?

Or a different one?

[junior tiger]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Manifest I used this one and many of the sublinks that come with it

[latent mauve]

I know some of the tutorials still use dispos.json for the name in the tutorials even though it's using the 1.6 Data/Characters format.

[lucid iron]

I think we need to check your loads and edits yeah

[junior tiger]

I believe so? There isn't an author at the top, but the name sounds familiar

[latent mauve]

It is Tiakall's, you're good

[lucid iron]

Whether they are targeting {{ModId}}.Taq

[latent mauve]

Chu was mainly checking that you were using a tutorial for 1.6, I think

and you are!

[junior tiger]

Thank goodness

[lucid iron]

(side note it should be {{ModId}}_Taq instead)

That wouldn't stop npc fron loading tho so we deal with that later

[latent mauve]

yep, it's not the current issue

[junior tiger]

I figured! But in their tutorial they showed it with a . once and I was so confused. In general the tutorial is a bit confusing for a firsttimer 😭

[latent mauve]

Using the . won't necessarily break it, but SMAPI can get fussy and throw errors if it thinks there's an extra . somewhere that isn't the end of a file extension.

[lucid iron]

Also _ is what lookup anything checks for

[latent mauve]

That too

[junior tiger]

To be fair, I only changed it to the . recently. I tried it before with the _ and had the same issues, sadly 🙁

[latent mauve]

Yep, we need to see the schedules and dialogue JSONs

[junior tiger]

Got it, one moment please. Thanks already for your time though

Dialogue: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/222a0694e39f4e3680a0769cc175709f only format missing again
Schedule: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3d05e0d74b434742aa26b86645480340 format missing

[latent mauve]

"Target":"[NPC]Taq/dialogue"

That's incorrect

[uncut viper]

(a dot in a key like that wont break things, if this were an issue then UniqueIDs in general would break things, since they have . in them 99% of the time)

[junior tiger]

Yes, that's in the content, right? I saw that I had two dialogue.json and deleted one (they were identical). I'll change the path

[latent mauve]

this is in the dialogue.json

[junior tiger]

Yes, this should be the right path again

[latent mauve]

That still doesn't look right.

[lucid iron]

Characters/Dialogue/<npc internal id>

[latent mauve]

"Target": "Characters/Dialogue/{{ModId}}.Taq" is the expected target for a dialogue file

[junior tiger]

Oh boy 😦 how can I fix it?

[latent mauve]

It's also where you loaded your blank.json to, which was correct.

[junior tiger]

Okay, I fixed it! Thank you!

[latent mauve]

Characters/Dialogue/snowy, Characters/Dialogue/stormy, and Characters/Dialogue/cloudy are also not valid targets

rainy is a special case, because vanilla has it already.

[junior tiger]

I can delete those. I thought for sure that stormy worked for storms

[latent mauve]

For other weather conditions, you would typically use the weather as a key or when statement in the normal dialogue file.

Changing messages based on weather is a little trickier, if it's not rain.

[junior tiger]

Thank you for the tip! I'll try and look more into that when the time comes, for now I would just like to get it working, everything else can wait

[latent mauve]

Yep, I would not worry about those lines for now.

[junior tiger]

I believe you. The "rain" I understand, it just made sense for me that "storm" or "thunderstorm" or "lightning" would be in the game similarly, but I can understand that it's a bit different

[latent mauve]

Yeah, the base game files have a rainy.json but none of the other weather states. 🙂

Okay, are you starting up a new save to check these changes?

If not, you will likely need to sleep a day in game.

[junior tiger]

I usually restart the game completely, should I make a new save each time?

[latent mauve]

If you're restarting the game but not starting a new save, then you'll need to sleep to tell the NPC to get its new schedule path.

[junior tiger]

Genuinely curious, what would sleeping do? Or do you mean if I were to test this on a preexisting farm?

[latent mauve]

Schedules get chosen at night.

[junior tiger]

Ah, for now he was stuck in the middle of the town square. I can try getting into my gamefile and starting a new day

[latent mauve]

Yep, the main reason to sleep after making any changes that may impact an NPC's schedule at all (including if you were to change map warps or add/remove locations in game) is that schedule pathfinding is set the night before, so you won't see any changes until one or two sleeps.

[junior tiger]

The SMAPI now says content not found :/ I had that fixed before 😭

[latent mauve]

The main issue with your schedule files are the FarmHouse placeholder_x_coord entries

you never swapped your placeholders for real values. 😛

[junior tiger]

Would I be okay to just comment them out? I wanted to just get the first schedule working

[latent mauve]

What's the full error with content not found?

And yes, you can comment out all of the entries that aren't "spring" in your schedule

[junior tiger]

Should I screenshot them or copy paste?

[latent mauve]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[latent mauve]

Just like the JSON validator, there's a spot where you can upload your log files as well.

[junior tiger]

https://smapi.io/log/4c7d2f8aaeb04743a885e05d6810ed8e here you go 2 errors it seems

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[latent mauve]

okay, so:

File name: 'A:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Content\Portraits\Pandakitty.MaleTaq.Taq.xnb'```
this means that your Portrait isn't loaded to the correct target (`Portraits/{{ModId}}.Taq`), assuming your Mod's UniqueID in the manifest is `Pandakitty.MaleTaq`

[junior tiger]

So how do I fix it? The error message confuses me a little 😅

[latent mauve]

I do see where you're loading the Portrait in your content.json, so two things to check: 1) is your FromFile correct? 2) Is it loading in the right order?

Is this where the portraits are located in your mod folder? assets/images/Sprite-Sheet-Taq.png

[junior tiger]

Yeah, if I hover over it it shows the right file :/

I renamed the portraits to Taq-portraits though, just in case the "sprites" in the name caused confusion for the content loader

[brittle ledge]

WHO PINGED M--oh, it was myself

[latent mauve]

LOL we spoke of you but did not ping, you did that all on your own, Tia. 😛

[brittle ledge]

You should ping me though, I have ADHD

[latent mauve]

Nah, it was only about helping PandaKitty, who followed your tutorial for NPCs

Hardly worth a ping

[lucid iron]

did u have a missed {{ModId}}.blah somewhere

[junior tiger]

Everything I have was copied straight out of the guide, I didn't add or delete anything that wasn't specifically marked for it

[latent mauve]

That was not anything against you PandaKitty, chu and I know how to troubleshoot NPCs, we promise xD

[lucid iron]

i am asking tia about the guide

[latent mauve]

hey Tia, they did mention using a . instead of _ in the {{ModID}}. NPCName thingy because it was in the tutorial, do you know where that is?

[junior tiger]

No, no all is well 🥺 I hope I'm not bothering too much

[latent mauve]

nope, not a bother at all! Can you screenshot your mod's assets folder for me?

Just want to confirm the filename

[junior tiger]

I saw the . thing here. I told you I am a noob so I was often confused

[junior tiger]

Of course

[latent mauve]

Specifically we need assets/images

wherever your Portrait PNG lives

[junior tiger]

I'll screenshot everything just in case

[latent mauve]

okay, so make sure you changed this block when you renamed the Taq-Portraits.png:

      "LogName": "Base Portraits",
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Portraits/{{ModId}}.Taq",
      "FromFile": "assets/images/Taq-Portraits.png"
    },```

[junior tiger]

In the content.json?

[latent mauve]

FromFile has to match exactly what it's called in the file system.

Yep.

[junior tiger]

Done did

[latent mauve]

I corrected the FromFile in that block for you, since it was still using the old one in the version you uploaded earlier.

And you've restarted since making that change?

If not, go ahead and do that now.

[junior tiger]

I can give it another shot

Huston we have a problem

Still standing in the middle of the town, but now even the sprite is gone 😭

[latent mauve]

ok, time to check your sprite FromFile as well.

[junior tiger]

🫡 it is in the same place as the portraits

[latent mauve]

also, since you have an error sprite, did you get an error in the console too?

[junior tiger]

Surprisingly I did not get any errors

[latent mauve]

FromFile seems fine for that one, so it might be the Target again somehow.

      "LogName": "Base Portraits",
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Characters/{{ModId}}.Taq",
      "FromFile": "assets/images/Taqsprites.png"
    },``` is this still your block for the sprite?

[junior tiger]

https://smapi.io/log/11be482b68a440cc80a2228efb285eb9 here is the log file, just in case, but it says no errors too

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[latent mauve]

LogName said Portraits but that shouldn't matter, the Target is still Characters/

LogName is descriptive anyway, it can be just about anything and not matter as far as what the code actually does.

[junior tiger]

Yeah it's here and shows the right sprites too

[latent mauve]

hmmm

I don't know why you'd have an error sprite in that case. Is it still doing it?

[junior tiger]

Oh should I restart again? I can try

Yeah, still there sadly :/ I mean, nothing has changed really

[latent mauve]

and no red in console?

[junior tiger]

Nope

[latent mauve]

I see that it loaded the Portrait in the trace, but I do not see it loading the Character sprite

[uncut viper]

i may have missed it when trying to backread just now, but have you adjusted your Data/Characters edit? the last json i could find with that has the dot in the NPC internal name

[latent mauve]

Yeah, we weren't changing the internal name yet, wanted to try to fix the error first.

[uncut viper]

well, the sprite/portrait targets dont match the NPC name now

[latent mauve]

good call on that

Since the target has the _

[junior tiger]

I did change everything I could find from mod.name to mod_name

[latent mauve]

okay, so they are changed

In Portraits it still has a .

[uncut viper]

it might be good to just re-upload all your current jsons for an easy to see up to date look at them all

[junior tiger]

I hope I changed everything. So I have gifttastes, manifest, dispos, content, schedule and dialogue open and it's all changed there (I hope)

[latent mauve]

Content Patcher loaded asset 'Portraits/Pandakitty.MaleTaq.Taq' (for the 'Custom NPC Taq' content pack). was from your latest log with no errors.

[junior tiger]

I could do that, just need to find the link again 🥺

[latent mauve]

Just resend your JSONs since you changed them ❤️

[uncut viper]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[junior tiger]

Of course! Right away

Content: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6bbedb3590264705b259fdd42f67709b
Dialogue: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b0c1d085f95f41fe890cebf4d1b3a11f
Manifest: https://smapi.io/json/manifest/384afd1881d94ccb8991de16ce122a4e

->Assets: Blank (empty except for brackets)
Dispos:https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/69fa8d92631549059a67c2f586a6e0d4

--> data: Dialogue: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8f629685b2a54613a2fd41c310195f12 (it keeps making another dialogue file in main)
Schedule: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/2224b413e6774725a215b51ba2c52807

There are still files in Data for "Festivals" and "gifttastes" I don't know if those are important for now

The files are folders, for better understanding of the file structures

[uncut viper]

your Data/Characters internal name does indeed still have the . instead of the _ that your portraits and sprites are now using

(in your dispos.json)

[latent mauve]

(in dispos)

Button just beat me to it xD

  "Changes": [
    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/Characters",
      "Entries": {```
        RIGHT HERE: ```"{{ModId}}.Taq": {
          "DisplayName": "Taq",```

Gotta change {{ModId}}.Taq to {{ModId}}_Taq

[uncut viper]

(also if you make this change dont worry if SMAPI throws a warning about deleting a non-existent NPC, thatll be the "old" Taq)

[junior tiger]

Omg you're so right 😭 Thank you. It's almost 1 am and I just completely missed it

[junior tiger]

Understood 🫡

Was there anything else I should fix, or should I try it again? I'm still worried that the sprite appeared in the middle of the town again and couldn't be spoken to. That means the dialogue and schedule are still twisted :/

[latent mauve]

Your Dialogue.json still has the . instead of _ as well

[junior tiger]

Found it 😭 my honor, it slips between my fingers

[latent mauve]

And your schedule couldn't attach because it used the _ but your internal NPC name wasn't yet

so the internal NPC name should fix that, hopefully

[junior tiger]

Alright, I will give it another shot!

[iron ridge]

https://github.com/anotherpillow/tbin.js
For some reason some parsing isn't perfect so it will occasionally crash the browser and there's also a LOT of debugging console.logs but it works probably 50% of the time?

[lucid iron]

@obtuse wigeon

[junior tiger]

Well, the sprite is there. Still no talking or schedule though :/

[iron ridge]

@obtuse wigeon as requested

[lucid iron]

remember to debug sleep

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh perfect thank you!!

[latent mauve]

sleep a night (debug command will do that too)

[iron ridge]

It's frontend btw

[junior tiger]

I'll give it a shot

[latent mauve]

LOL

❤️

[iron ridge]

If you're running it on a not browser, you're far better off:

• using headless tiled
• using toastermapcli
• using c#/xtile
• using caseys c++ tbin library which was the precursor to tiled implementation (worst option here)

[obtuse wigeon]

Perfect, that's currently what I'm basing this for as backend isn't possible if I do it (well it is possible but dynamic sites cost)

[junior tiger]

Sadly still the same :/

[brittle ledge]

I believe I said something about that in the section about 1.5 because underscores were touchy iirc

[latent mauve]

anything in the console?

[junior tiger]

Nope, completely quiet. No red

[iron ridge]

I am not responsible for your browser crashing

While I'd appreciate maybe examples of breaking tbins what i would really appreciate is PRs fixing the crashes

[obtuse wigeon]

I shall be crashing it repeatedly reguardless XD

[iron ridge]

I fear what you plan to do, good luck

[obtuse wigeon]

I fear it too, thank you, I shall need it

[latent mauve]

and waiting around doesn't make them move? your schedule doesn't start until 800

[junior tiger]

Okay, so I figured something out! You're right, he does move at 8. Problem is though, I set his homespawn to the bus stop, so it's weird he spawns in the town center. The problem of the dialogue remains though :/ can't talk to him

[latent mauve]

Dialogue not working might have something to do with the second one you say keeps happening, if you're not using the correct dialogue JSON file

OR the gift-tastes

Which we have not yet investigated

[lucid iron]

if he spawned in town that means the character's Home entry is wrong

[junior tiger]

I can send in the gifttastes and the festivals just in case

[junior tiger]

I did what I could. I went into debug menu and set it to busstop and tile coordinates

[iron ridge]

Just to clarify, by it crashing browsers I mean it goes into an infinite loop and the browser may prompt to end the script but if it's not it'll just freeze/crash it

Also I've no idea how you'd import it, I think there's a compiled js file in the repo on github pages if you're using vanilla js, if with a framework you can probably import the main .ts file as a submodule

[lucid iron]

by home entry i mean their Character data

[latent mauve]

doublechecking the BusStop map to make sure that 22, 10 is valid

[junior tiger]

Gift tastes: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4258300d29ae47aba9c9508a1be01144
Festivals: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b6f61b64d4404c35ac7065286c0453d2

[uncut viper]

oh, your Home entry appears to be inside your SpousePatio

[latent mauve]

oh, good catch

[junior tiger]

The bus stop is part of the spouse patio? 😭

[uncut viper]

just forgot a }, to close your SpousePatio data

[latent mauve]

if you hover the { on line 30, you'll see that the closing brace is way after the Home entry

(on the validator website)

[junior tiger]

Okay, so close it before "Home"?

[uncut viper]

yes, and dont forget the comma

[latent mauve]

So you want to take away the } on line 50 and close it before Home instead, yep

[junior tiger]

You're such a genius for catching that though

So this is what I have now

[uncut viper]

bit difficult to tell without seeing the whole file and the slightly off indentation but that seems fine? best way to check is to try it and see if something yells at you in red