making-mods-general

[clever turret]

If I'm able to wrap my head around C# for my phone troubles, maybe I'll try and figure out a harvest things like moss setup

[stable grotto]

does that even work in vanilla? the box drawn seems too small for some of the localizations

[drowsy pewter]

Ahh I do appreciate the thought, but I can't promise that I'll use it. I think there is already a moss-type framework as well already, but I have to be a bit choosy with what frameworks my mods end up depending on since the audience is decently large

[lucid mulch]

I personally wouldn't bother for the forseeable future while timelines are so undefined.
you dont want to make your mod dependent on it , and then just not release it for 2 years potentially

[stark spindle]

Cool. Ill continue just keeping having a look every now and again so.

[lucid mulch]

for context the 1.6 modding alpha was open for a bit over 2 years prior to its eventual release

and while past doesn't always predict the future, its the best baseline for setting expectations

[hard fern]

im so excited for non string furniture

[lucid mulch]

I'm tempted to work on a backport mod, but am nervous of doing it, and then it changing again and thus maintaining an out of data view of the backported functionality

backporting the event stuff would be interesting

[stark spindle]

Yeah I really like all the event stuff. looks way nicer. The event test stuff also looks super useful.

[hard fern]

ooh yeah these look nice too

on the one hand yeah i know it could be quite a while until 1.7 but on the other hand i dread releasing a mod and then having to fix all the stuff for it

[lucid mulch]

some of the event validator stuff I want to incorporate into my debugger mod as I should be able to get that hooked up so it can run and show its results inside vscode

[ornate locust]

unfortunately it comes in like two years and I ended up doing my 5 quickquestion event in the mean time

[stark spindle]

ooo interesting

[lucid mulch]

tbh I might be fine with my debugger mod just tying itself to the hips of 1.7 early as I have no real plans of releasing it any time soon anyway

and as I want to work on CP migrations / smapi rewriters anyway, having mod authors delibrately running on 1.7 to use the debugger also tests the CP migration tools

[hard fern]

how about i just take 2 years to finish my expansion... tbh, it'll probably take me somewhere around that time anyways. i don't see an issue with writing it for 1.7 off the bat, time-wise, anways.

[ornate locust]

Expansions aren't super fast things to make

[lucid mulch]

though I want to get some of the profiler updates out prior to condemming Debugger to being unreleasable

and I need to find at least 1 other performance optimization to put into SpeedySolutions so I have an excuse to ship an update with the correct default config value

[drowsy pewter]

If you think about it like that, you're signing yourself up for a two year marathon. What if you need to release an alpha or beta for player feedback, or release part of it as a standalone, are you going to make players update to 1.7 just to play with your mod?

[hard fern]

tbh, i don't really want to release it for players anways...

[drowsy pewter]

well, up to you

[hard fern]

😔 so then i shouldnt do it

and stick to 1.6

[brave fable]

imo it's best to stick to 1.6 if only because 1.7 doesn't even have the vaguest hint of a release date

live in the moment

[hard fern]

yeah, you're right. it would be a pain for me to even test if i made it for 1.7

[brave fable]

i'd do whatever you like without even thinking about the next update, and when 1.7.15 is out and all the dust's settled you can start looking at migrating whatever isn't already handled by CP

[stark spindle]

There doesnt seem to be any real breaking changes yet

[lucid mulch]

the main breaking changes are moving all the dialogue around, every events rewritten and a bunch of assets have completely changed data structure

[brave fable]

but all in all i'd say the #1 reason to develop for 1.6 is because absolutely everybody else is (save for the one person who just turned up using 1.5.6 ), so all the frameworks are made for 1.6, and all the documentation is written for 1.6

unfortunately i just found a blog with the most incredible and adorable hakama so my evening is ruined

[hard fern]

does this mean you're in pants hell

again

[brave fable]

never left 😌

[hard fern]

(does pants hell have different circles? what circle are you in now)

[ornate locust]

yeah, two, the legs

[brave fable]

colour-coordinated non-conforming culturally significant pants circle

[ornate locust]

Three if you count the waist

[hard fern]

those are a lot of Cs

[brave fable]

https://kasya.jp/blog/8774/
god

[hard fern]

wait those are so cute

UGHHH

[brave fable]

you see the problem here

[hard fern]

I DO

[brave fable]

now how the fuck do i draw them

the classic blunder is trying to make menswear and them immediately the world of womens fashion buries it like a mudslide, never to be seen again

[vernal crest]

I've already gone back to rewrite several parts of my mods after learning better ways to do things so if I have to rewrite stuff for 1.7 it won't be different

[stark spindle]

Yeah I do get a kick out of refactoring stuff to work better or do it the "proper" way. I always feel like I'm doing things a bit of a hacky way the first time.

[brave fable]

hm somehow i hoped pants might be drawn above shirts so i could have a matching belt at chest height. turns out pants are drawn so low your eyes go over them

[dusky sail]

Solution is a shirt item that contains the top of the pants and the belt maybe

Like the vanilla overalls shirts

[brave fable]

sadly means i need a gorillion shirts haha

[dusky sail]

Is this a real number

[brave fable]

naturally.

[hard fern]

gorilla x 1 million

idk what the numerical value of one gorilla is but it sure is a lot

[brave fable]

actually there might be nothing stopping me from just making the kimono equivalent of a crop-top

[dusky sail]

Now ur cookin with fire

[brave fable]

naturally 😌

[fading walrus]

If you ever want inspo, I remember there was a Japanese clothes brand that was doing really cool fusion stuff

https://kimonokien.jp/en/ This wasn't the one I saw but maaan their designs are stunning

[brave fable]

you can't do this to me...

[fading walrus]

Get design-creeped

[brave fable]

emily's pink cowboy pants. my final offer. please

i have a family

[fading walrus]

This was a fun rabbithole to go down for scope creeping ngl
India has a massive fusion fashion scene and I love seeing how other countries do it

Maybe...

Just maybe...

I shall give clothes a crack.

[brave fable]

you MAY want to start with something simpler than patterned flowing pants lol

[fading walrus]

Tops

And if I have to do lower wear, I'll do skirts first

Pants will happen once I ascend to a higher plane of consciousness

[hard fern]

ive been scrolling through that website with the cute hakama

why can't clothes be real

[brave fable]

one day i hope someone makes clothes real so people dont have to see my butt. one day

[fading walrus]

https://www.peonyandlotus.co.uk/product-page/white-floral-embroidered-square-cut-crop
God, forget putting this in Stardew, I want this top irl

Would look so good with high waisted jeans

[brave fable]

ah yes. the arms draw above the pants.

[fading walrus]

Oops

[dusky sail]

Cut off the farmer's arms

Problem solved

[echo orbit]

how do I go about adding a custom catalouge/shop

[vernal crest]

Do you want a catalogue or a shop?

They work the same way in one aspect but totally differently in others, so they don't use the same instructions

[echo orbit]

give us an example for both

because I need an implementation for a shop that sells a new furniture catalouge

[verbal narwhal]

https://smapi.io/log/e00b9093459c4d45867bf30b47700189
https://smapi.io/json/none/b89ce0a918b64a87b72b5b56df6eead5
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/eb4e5e0c1f914e6e98851b8fb0982336

did I do something wrong here? my test save wont show me the lost item shop
or do I need more conditions than just having met the lost item being seen and not under my possession for the lostitemshop to appear?

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.19045.0, with 28 C# mods and 6 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[vernal crest]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Shops

[vernal crest]

Furniture catalogue will need Calcifer, Furniture Framework, MiscMapActionsProperties, or Spacecore and the instructions vary depending on which one you use, so you can check their documentation.

[echo orbit]

is that just coded with json and conpatch

also where would I put the contribution to the portrait gen

[vernal crest]

I think the wiki says it shows up when you lose one of the items that will appear there. Try putting one in your inventory and then dropping it?

[vernal crest]

In addition to mentioning it when you're sharing art in making-mods-art, you'd put it in your mod page when publishing the mod (with a link to the creator).

[vernal crest]

It is json, yes. And yes it's Content Patcher, but one of those four other mods will also be needed for the catalogue.

[echo orbit]

neato, I'm most familiar with spacecore

and how do I end up making a sprite sheet

[verbal narwhal]

ah thanks!

[vernal crest]

Find a vanilla one that most closely matches what you want to do, make a copy of it, start editing

[fading walrus]

!unpack Take a look at the game files for the format, but it's just a canvas on aseprite/your art program of choice with the different frames for the NPC animations laid out next to each other

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[echo orbit]

already unpacked the x-whatever they are files

[fading walrus]

Yep, so peek in characters and look at the character spritesheets as a guide for how to lay out your own NPC's spritesheet

[echo orbit]

I daresay tessa looks relatively close to abby?

[fading walrus]

Yep
Use Abigail's spritesheet as a reference then

That's honestly the easiest way to keep the body style consistent with vanilla and saves you a bit of work

[echo orbit]

looking at the three currently designed portraits (ily pathoschild you make my life easy)

i daresay she looks hella like abby

[vernal crest]

(Pathos is amazing but as far as I know he doesn't draw lol)

[drowsy pewter]

If he could draw we should all be afraid

[vernal crest]

He could just be the entire Stardew modding community on his own

[hard fern]

[brave fable]

thank god he can't draw. don't you dare wish the water out of his well of time and knowledge

[vernal crest]

(Although all the marriage candidates except Abby would be sorely neglected )

[echo orbit]

what emotions do most characters have in common uhhhhhhh

oh no

[drowsy pewter]

Immersive Abigail, Romanceable Abigail Redux, Abigail Expanded, Sweeter than Amethyst

[echo orbit]

my brain

[vernal crest]

Realistic Rock-eater Abigail

[echo orbit]

I need another monster but it's 8:20

[fading walrus]

SWEETER THAN AMETHYST

Crunchier than Amethyst, surely

[vernal crest]

These are the order of the first six emotions (0 is the first): https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Portrait_commands

[echo orbit]

yall should I make wildcorn a thing? or just use the regular corn crop for the overgrown cornfields

[vernal crest]

You should perhaps try to get a working map in game before worrying too much about making custom assets for it

[echo orbit]

hm

true

[echo orbit]

his confuses me

this

[vernal crest]

It can suck to do a lot of work and then realise you can't implement it

[echo orbit]

nevermind I just forgot to read on

[brave fable]

i see. we don't actually get to use the top 16x23 pixels on the pants sheet. ok.

maybe with a matching invisible shirt

ok yeah invisible shirt is good. unfortunately the pants still suck (and the arms clip)

[drowsy pewter]

Better Pants Framework

Okay, finally home. What was I planning to work on

[echo orbit]

do we apreciate long crafting trees

[drowsy pewter]

What?

[echo orbit]

as in, craft this item to make a machine

[drowsy pewter]

Okay. I'm sorry but I have my own things to work on actually

[brave fable]

if you want user opinions it's often better to ask in #modded-stardew , we're just the technical side

[vernal crest]

Yep, not a massive amount of actual playing happening in this channel lol

[hard fern]

I had a brain fart and really thought the topic was Long (length) crafting trees. Long trees. Just crafted in ur inventory

[vernal crest]

Looong loooong trees

[drowsy pewter]

I was also thinking trees

I do appreciate long trees

now thats a long one

[vernal crest]

Oh butt I'm going to need two includes after all

[timid meteor]

Erm, can someone please help me figure out how ConfigSchema works? It shows up in the menu config tab but its blank. I'm trying to add options that let players turn different accessories like hats and shades on or off. Tw: I don't know what I'm doing https://smapi.io/json/none/a3024074ae384fb5a4ba9adbf9a8339a

[drowsy pewter]

Where did you get this format from?

have you read the Content Patcher documentation at all?

[vernal crest]

Hey it's Lily's mod

[timid meteor]

No sadly 💔🥀 erm

[drowsy pewter]

Start there

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md

[timid meteor]

Oki thankyuu

[drowsy pewter]

I dont know where you got your format from, but if its chatgpt or anything similar, please dont

[vernal crest]

But yeah Type is not a thing.

[timid meteor]

Alright that's noted, sorry y'all had to read that abomination lmao

[verbal narwhal]

does polyamory sweet have a tag that can be used in CP packs to see if any of the spouses or roommates are one specific one?

[hard fern]

Wdym one of specific one?

[verbal narwhal]

if any spouse or roommate is: Sebastian

[hard fern]

Oh, can you not just Spouse: Sebastian

[verbal narwhal]

mhm I was told that would result in false positives or positive falses (?)

[timid meteor]

Omg thankyuu so much for this, it helped

[hard fern]

Oh, i guess. There's no way to guarantee the player has his spouse room

[verbal narwhal]

and the thing is with c# I can handle the checking for poly safety
but if I want dynamicness that can adapt to different mods I should rather rely on CP
(or expand this 1000 lines of cool mess I made)

[hard fern]

Re: polysweet cp tags, honestly im not sure if it does all that

Maybe best to just look in it? 🤔

[verbal narwhal]

I took a look into their readme

it's empty

[hard fern]

Like totally blank? Rip

[verbal narwhal]

yes lmao

[hard fern]

Idk how easy ot hard it would be to poke around inside the contents of the mod itself to look for anything

[verbal narwhal]

but maybe I can fumble something together that checks my c# part with like many conditions

I guess I will do that when I have the mental capacity (it is so many files)

[dusky sail]

Would a has spouse contains sebastian true work

Like. Is that an available condition

[drowsy pewter]

Np, you can always come ask if you dont know where to look for info on something

[hard fern]

It should work as a condition? Methinks

[verbal narwhal]

well the vanillacode asks for this syntax:

this.HasNpcSpouseOrRoommate() || this.lastSpouseRoom != this.owner?.spouse)

[hard fern]

Hm

[dusky sail]

Maybe look at custom spouse rooms/polysweet rooms and poke around to see how they figure out which spouse rooms to spawn if youre going c#

[vernal crest]

Or maybe just...prioritise compat with a different polyam mod...-cough-

[dusky sail]

This is true there's three of them but i feel like. maybe theyre similar enough that the same "does this person have sebastian amongst their spouses?" Question would work for all of them

Completely unfounded belief

[brave fable]

not sure which one to lose, from lemon, orange, apricot, and yuzu. one of them has to go. this is ridiculous

[dusky sail]

Why does one have to go 🥺 why cant we keep all of them

[brave fable]

do i look like i want to make another pant

[vernal crest]

Yes

[dusky sail]

Wouldnt it just be recoloring the same pant?

[sleek flint]

I want to keep them all, but if I had to let one go it would be the bottom left one.

[brave fable]

unfortunately these idiot things had patterned designs on them before i redrew them

[lucid iron]

Delet orange cus it looks like son goku

[brave fable]

bad designs, but still

good point

[sleek flint]

That's what makes it great lol

[hard fern]

Orange seconded

I don't know what a dragon ball is though

[brave fable]

sorry venus ur kimono is bad and goes in the shredder

[hard fern]

Mmm pants

Why are pants

[brave fable]

we just don't know.

[calm nebula]

Cute!

Does it work?

Extending the pants

Do high waisted pants work?

[fading walrus]

pants are the devil

hi atra!

[calm nebula]

Pants are the devil

[brave fable]

they do work, but you need a shirt that's transparent up to that point, since shirts are drawn above pants

there's not many

[calm nebula]

I have to go put some on to go to work

Ah

Okay

Crop tops

[fading walrus]

crop top tiem, ye

[brave fable]

there's a few in this mod but god knows why anyone would wear them

[fading walrus]

because cute, surely

[brave fable]

technically pants are drawn above shirts when you've passed out so i guess you can just die in high waisted pants

[fading walrus]

[verbal narwhal]

oh I dont use any and so I have no clue of them and their differences

I was just asked if I could make it work

[calm nebula]

{{Relationship:Npc}}: Married

[verbal narwhal]

mhm but that would return true if the farmhand was married to sebastian as well

but I think maybe the problem was after all not at all caused by my mod (I thought I have looked at every possible check) but maybe just on (CP) Lively Frog Tank

[hard fern]

maybe use game state query?

to specify player

[past knot]

I have a bit of an.. interesting question..Im working on a mod currently. It had a former name that the maps were under, but that internal name had changed and the maps coding did too. Ive tried removing the former name versions. And it seemed to break all maps entirely. Is there a reason and fix for that?

[calm nebula]

No. It wouldn't

Current player is the default

[past knot]

Ive already redone the code with the newer versions internal name

[vernal crest]

Do you have a log?

[past knot]

Lemme grab it!

[vernal crest]

!log You can paste it in the linked website and then share the link with us

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[verbal narwhal]

so would the editmap patch happen then if the current player would be visiting the house of another player that is married to sebastian?

[verbal narwhal]

mhmm my mod was doing fine all the time
it was just a non-optimal frogtank hider that i was trying to have working while also adding compat with my mod

[karmic gust]

I'm having a problem adding an NPC warp from the bus stop to a custom location and I'm not sure why. Pierre does successfully leave his apartment in the morning and makes it to town, but he makes it as far as the bus stop in the evening and then doesn't use the NPC warp back to his house. Spacecore is showing the "could not find route" scheduler message. I also tried changing the location of the warp just in case SVE added one in the same spot but no dice

here's the json (with the map patch on line 153): https://smapi.io/json/none/73c86f84eb5f49f7ac756d1b82123d91

and the log: https://smapi.io/log/b6223d17bbf844e1b29b7e9dba6316a1

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.16.4.107, with 16 C# mods and 4 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[obtuse wigeon]

Nexus I stg why are you adament on breaking!

[vernal crest]

Does it work if you move the warp to a different tile?

[karmic gust]

okay, I just retested without SVE and the map patch is working without it

no, it didn't but I only moved it a tile back

[vernal crest]

Also this is not connected but I recommend that you start using the {{ModId}} token

[karmic gust]

for the location, you mean?

[vernal crest]

Try moving it to a significantly different place

[karmic gust]

okay!

[vernal crest]

For everything. Your map names, event names, location names. None of them are unique right now.

[karmic gust]

Oh, okay! I thought that was only recommended for custom NPCs. I'll go ahead and do that

[vernal crest]

SVE might load a completely new bus stop map, and if your mod is editing before SVE does it might be removing your warp entirely. I can't check for you because I'm on mobile but it might be worth doing a patch export of the map if changing the tile doesn't help, so you can check the map properties to see if your NPC warp is there

[vernal crest]

Nope, it's literally every key/id in the game except i18n (there are some that matter less than others but there's no downside to using it everywhere outside i18n)

[karmic gust]

Okay I'll make those changes, and check the patch export. Thank you for the help!

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhh if SVE does change the bus stop warps, they will use the touch action warp, if you've replaced the tile with a new one, the property will be removed

I had a similar issue with making pavements, SVE warps just stopped working until I put my tile on Back2 instead of Back

[karmic gust]

Hmm, yeah I'll have to see. I have to head out in a second so I'm gonna check it out when I return. I thought the addNPCwarp function only added to, not replaced any existing ones (unless it was on the same tile) but there may be another one there

[vernal crest]

It's not an sve warp that's broken

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohh okay sorry, I just woke up so I think I've misunderstood

[vernal crest]

SVE is breaking kspace's mod not the other way around

[vernal crest]

If it is that SVE loads their bus stop map you'd just have to add a false dependency or a late priority to your patch so your mod loads after theirs and then yours will edit their map

[karmic gust]

Sorry, another question so I can clarify. When I load the maps I would set the target as {{ModId}}_PierreApartment (or whichever map name) and I could keep my file names the same, correct?

The same way as I did with the character sprites?

[royal stump]

nope, the text seems bugged for multiple vanilla translations, but most notably in korean

[lucid iron]

Maps should be loaded to Maps/{{ModId}}_PierreApartment

[stable grotto]

then I better do fix that

[karmic gust]

Okay thank you!

[agile flame]

if an item couldn't locate the given sprite will it show as error image?

[vernal crest]

Yes the file name can be whatever you want, the game doesn't see that

[ornate trellis]

anyone know where Fashion sense get this part of their UI? i guess its one of the ones on cursor but I cannot figure out how its drqawn or which it is because it somehow makes my UI recolor for it look weird

cuz this is how it looks for me

[vernal crest]

Try replacing cursors with a file of the same size that's just entirely bright green to confirm it's coming from there and then if it is make each quarter a different colour to find out which quarter of the sheet has it and so on, getting smaller and smaller until you find it.

[ornate trellis]

🤔

[vernal crest]

Think as in you don't know what I mean?

[ornate trellis]

holy balls

i found it by sheer coincidence

oh but to answer your question, that emote was more of a "guess this means a lot of time digging" questioning self kinda way but i guess i had pure luck just now as i was staring at all the frame-ish elements

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm interested to know where it was, I'm putting a bit of a compilation together of the asset paths and location of things for recolour, so it would be quite useful to add to the compilation

[brittle pasture]

from reading the source code the side bar is created by stacking copies of this section on top of each other (phone photo warning)

[obtuse wigeon]

Good to know! thank you

[calm nebula]

How are tortillas

[dusky sail]

yes

[obtuse wigeon]

To that I raise you, Why are tortillas

[brittle pasture]

cromulent

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh wow I just saw tortierre

[obtuse wigeon]

Breakfast burritos are the shit, like I cannot think of anything better

[brittle pasture]

my obsession with skong has spared me from making a tortilla mod and i’m not sure if i’m relieved or disappointed

[lucid iron]

Hornet tortilla outfit

Consider

[obtuse wigeon]

I keep on seeing skong spoilers on tiktok, it looks SO GOOD

[oblique meadow]

Ive been playing. Its definitely harder but SO good

[tiny zealot]

i am not playing it yet, please keep skong info and spoilers out of mmg for the terminally online like me thank you

[obtuse wigeon]

Spoilers 100% should not be stated in here agreed

[worldly wadi]

Heyyy I'm struggling to add forage on my map. Can someone help me? I have the items and the map ready, how can I place them?

[brittle pasture]

look into location data

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data#Contents (Forage)

[sleek flint]

Can someone tell me where is the tmx file for the top mine floor? Not in the mines, but the one you enter before descending with the ladder or the elevator.

[gray bear]

mine.tmx

[karmic gust]

False dependency fixed it! Thank you again for the help! And I also added the {{ModId}} tokens so now that's all good, too. I appreciate the heads up!

[worldly wadi]

Do I have to add it on tiled or on my content.json file? (Sorry for the dumbass question, I'm new into modding)

[brittle pasture]

content.json

[worldly wadi]

Ok tysmmmmm

[fair hull]

Hi guys.

Did anybody can help me? I try to do a mod that change the sprite of the seeds from other mods, but it doesn't work(4 days i try anything, didn't find a solution). I don't have any error in json (https://smapi.io/json/none/a194168699554dd4bb974e497a768b36), but it doesn't change a thing.

I suppose the code to change the sprite (lines 1097 to 1116, the last bit) is wrong, but why?

I mean, the UniqueID for Atelier Goods is "Wildflour.AtelierGoods", so the path should be " Mods/Wildflour.AtelierGoods/Assets/Objects "(the name for the file with all the sprites is "Objects")...

Did anybody know what i did wrong, and could explain it a little? Because i did the sprite for a lots of mods, and i want to code them all ^^'

[hallow prism]

it's not how it works

[severe spruce]

Is it just me or is there an absurd amount of tortilla-related mods releasing recently

[hallow prism]

it is a good idea to come asking for help!

the mod will load the files in a path mentioned in the mod itself

[drowsy pewter]

No, the path is not that. The texture path can be anything, so you have to read the mod files. Mods\\Wildflour.AtelierGoods\\Objects is what is listed in the mod files under the seed entries

[hallow prism]

you need to use that specific path to change assets

[drowsy pewter]

The actual full name of the path is completely unrelated to where the files are in the mod folders

[hallow prism]

the path of the mod folder doesn't matter, what matters is the in game path (the way it's loaded in content pipeline)

[fair hull]

So, i need to check the original mod code to find the right path?

[drowsy pewter]

Yes

[fathom rapids]

definitely just you. i havent seen a single tortilla recently (i made the 'remove the tortillas' one)

[ornate trellis]

man, wish i remembered how i can check in a mods code if i can target their asset for retex needs

[drowsy pewter]

Essentially the author decides the name of the texture/"path". If flour wanted, she could make her items have the texture of Wildflour.AtelierGoods_AllOfMyObjects or even Mods/Flour_items or anything. So its best to check the object data files--you can also use lookup anything with debug fields on on the items ingame

[obtuse wigeon]

The textures are loaded by the Data/textures.json file, you'll find the asset path in there for a veriety of the textures in the mod

[severe spruce]

been considering making a userscript that hides all tortilla-related mods ngl

[lucid iron]

You can patch summary but for ui stuff it possibly never got loaded to content

[ornate trellis]

oof

i swear there was a way to jsut browse the code for it or something

[fathom rapids]

or, hear me out: you could also make a tortilla mod

[obtuse wigeon]

Debug mode can tell you what mod the interface is from, but unfortuantly not where the UI elements are from, If the source is available I tend to look through that for C# mods but other times it's not and it makes it a tad harder

[ornate trellis]

i do have the source but I know jackshit bout C#. guess i jsut gonna do the drag and drop option until i see someone maybe target it(if its possible)

[obtuse wigeon]

What mod is it? I could have a look for you as I'll probably need to add it for mine anyway

[ornate trellis]

well, im adding a few so id have to look at msot if the source is available but rn its quality smash

[obtuse wigeon]

I think I found quality smash? lemmie have a gander through my list

[ornate trellis]

i did find the asset mentioned but idk what any of the code means

[lucid iron]

Iirc quality smash is replace only

[ornate trellis]

it would be great if in ge4neral for any UI retexture maker we could have a list or something for compat stuff like this

[ornate trellis]

dang

so it goes onto the list with fashion sense

[fair hull]

I check in Atelier Goods mod, in the texture.json, i find the good path i think (Mods/Wildflour.AtelierGoods/Objects), i add it to my mod, but, no change at all.

https://smapi.io/json/none/07053cb99faa4f10b658e161744c350d

[obtuse wigeon]

That's part of my aim, compiling it all together into one location bc finding these is so difficult at times

[ornate trellis]

yeah and the whole guessing if its replace only or not...would save a lot of time if there was a list

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm unfamiliar with replace only, overlay doesn't work on some things? that's quite annoying

[ornate trellis]

replace only is basically drag n drop to replace the png inside the mod

big downside is you gotta do it every time all those mods update

[lucid iron]

The reason is that sometimes people didn't load their ui textures to content

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohhh gotcha

[lucid iron]

It's impossible to editimage in that case

[ornate trellis]

so it wouldve been great if we could just target..

[obtuse wigeon]

I assumed they all were added to content

[ornate trellis]

as simple as drag n drop sounds its a big hassle when you got, like, 20+ mods to do it for

[zenith sapphire]

Guys but if i want to make a new custom map in stardew, using Tiled, do I have to unpack the XNB files with a program, or can I just get those PNGs and the file exported from the internet? I didn’t want to use another program on my PC, maybe there is something else?

[obtuse wigeon]

Also why is fashion sense in the drag and drop catagory? Unless theres an odd sub menu I havent found, fashion sense works automatically

[ornate trellis]

what do you mean

[gray bear]

u can intergrate it with code iirc

[ornate trellis]

[obtuse wigeon]

You said this, i thought you meant fashion sense was only a drago and drop, but it does get loaded to content

[ornate trellis]

see? now we are back to it would be great to have a list or wiki page for this whole thing

[obtuse wigeon]

in fact it does it automatically

[ornate trellis]

whats the exact thing to target then? ive always replaced the assets and seen other UI retex do the same

what do you mean automatically

where do you put the reccolored assets

[obtuse wigeon]

It takes the UI elements from cursors or other vanilla Assets

[ornate trellis]

im talking about the FS specific icons

[lucid iron]

You should unpack it

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohhh okay gotcha, sorry I missunderstood, I thought you meant the other stuff not the icons, my mistake

[ornate trellis]

yeah i always jsut mean the mods specific custom stuff, not what they use from vanilla

[gray bear]

oh wait yeah they don't load those

honestly as long as the drag-in part isn't named wrong could maybe see if u can ask PE about it

[obtuse wigeon]

It would be good if Stardrop could handle drop in replacements, given it already reads the manifest files

[gray bear]

actually since it's a c# mod i don't think it can load things that can be edited by CP

[ornate trellis]

nah i make it so the folder structure stays so you can drag n drop and replace

[obtuse wigeon]

it can if they go through content, like the Swim mod for instance

[uncut viper]

Content Patcher itself is a C# mod that loads things that can be edited by CP

[ornate trellis]

what does swim mod even have UI wise? scarlett suggested it for a compat edit but i stared at it for a minute and was like huh

[obtuse wigeon]

Oxygen bar, that's like it I think

[ornate trellis]

ohh

[gray bear]

well yeah but it can't edit things not added by it, no?

[fathom rapids]

why not?

[uncut viper]

were the vanilla files added by content patcher?

[fathom rapids]

Anything Content Patcher can do, another C# mod can do too

the question is proper load order / false dependencies

[uncut viper]

it edits assets and any mod can touch any asset in the pipeline

[gray bear]

so can you edit fashion sense ui elements with CP?

[uncut viper]

if you feel like smashing SMAPI's door open with a sledgehammer you can even edit internal assets if you really wanted

not if FS doesn't put them in the pipeline

[karmic gust]

Does hitting publish ever get easier? I feel like I've tested everything a bunch, I've reread every event like a gazillion times, everything seems to be in order and yet it's so nerve wracking haha

[uncut viper]

C# basically has it's own equivalent of the InternalAssetKey token

[gray bear]

[ornate trellis]

whats, like, the pro in not loading it into the pipeline and making it hard for retexturesob

just curious

[calm nebula]

It's more work and if you didnt know about it

[lucid iron]

Minor perf stuff but usually just not knowing that you can

[uncut viper]

wouldn't need to worry about invalidation or anything either

[ornate trellis]

ahhh

[fathom rapids]

release a dozen tiny mods and eventually youll be like "eh I'll test it later, I'm sure soemone will tell me if it crashes the game"

[hallow prism]

i know with FTM i can check cp conditions. If i wanted to check if a certain token returned a specific value, is it doable with it?

its a random token so i'm not sure if it is doable

[ornate trellis]

hm, i dont see any oxygen bar in the swim mod, hm....ill skip it for now

[latent mauve]

Honestly, there might be times when a mod author intentionally doesn't load it into the content pipeline because they don't want it to be changed by anyone else, but that's fairly rare. It's usually just not knowing that they can/should.

[brittle pasture]

your asset name seems correct. try running patch summary Mods/Wildflour.AtelierGoods/Objects and see if your patches show up

[fathom rapids]

mhm

oh a good example of a mod that DOES do that i think is tractor

both the garage and the tractor are CP-able and AT-able

[latent mauve]

(using {{InternalAssetKey}} tokens creates the same effect in CP mods where the content becomes unable to be targeted by other patches)

[gentle rose]

the trick to making a UI that's compatible with other things is not to do either option and just use vanilla UI bits and bobs instead /lh

[karmic gust]

Okay it's done!

[latent mauve]

Which is why Loading a texture is preferable to using InternalAssetKey

[karmic gust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37296

Fates entwine when long-time rivals Pierre and Morris meet after a late night argument.

Across the Aisle adds 14 rival heart events for these two quarreling clerks. This mod follows Pierre as he navigates co-parenting of an adult child, co-ownership of a business, and, of course, love after divorce.

[fair hull]

Patch summary? i'm sorry, i don't know what it means ><

[gray bear]

may i showcase this?

[karmic gust]

Yes please! I'd really appreciate it

[brittle pasture]

paste that command into the smapi console and post what it returns

[obtuse wigeon]

Target: FlyingTNT.Swim/OxygenBar, asset location: Swim Mod Folder/assets/O2Bar.png, it's the continuation of swim mod by Flying TNT (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23169)

[ornate trellis]

wait a goddamn minute

i was looking at erinthes because it was said to have the same update from flyingtntn but the asset folder looks different...

[obtuse wigeon]

I think erinthe merged flyingtnt's code to the Swim github page, but didn't update the swim nexus page as flyingtnt also has a nexus page for swim mod continued

[ornate trellis]

well, whatev the reason, i now have the needed asset xD

[obtuse wigeon]

Thank you GitHub copilot for spitting out a nexus ID for a mod that isn't published, now please stay uninstalled I beg

[gray bear]

vscode: do u wanna use copilot?
me: no

[tiny zealot]

no

[gentle rose]

I mean for me it does, that just always means I forgot something “publishing isn’t so bad! —oh”

[round dock]

Funnily enough, even publishing an update still gives me the jitters

[uncut viper]

the only part that hasnt gotten easier for me is making the mod page itself which i still loathe with every fiber of my being

"release mod? no mod page!! only release!!"

[round dock]

My changelog stating “fixes bugs and notranslations” while an obscure notranslation smirks at the hidden corners of my published update

[gentle rose]

one day I will blackmail a content modder into making my mod pages for me 😌 probably claire

[devout otter]

At one point I got into the headspace of "there's no way I don't have bugs, so I'd always have to upload a hotfix anyway" and after that releasing a mod gets easier.

[round dock]

Consider: You have nothing against me

[modest dagger]

would bribes or flattery work claire

[gentle rose]

consider: that is patently false

[round dock]

-# perhaps

[ornate trellis]

guess I either did something wrong or it cant be targetted...boo

[tiny zealot]

i would reduce it to only some of the fibers of my being if the mod description editor weren't utter trash

[lucid iron]

I like releasing on gh cus i just upload no thinking required

[tiny zealot]

don't have to wait for the flaky virus tool, CDN is faster, readme is probably already written and uses markdown, etc.

[royal stump]

FTM's "CPConditions" is generally the same as "When" in a CP pack, so things like contains or checking specific values might handle it, depending on your use case? e.g.

"CPConditions": {
    "Random: a, b, c": "a",
    "HasFlag": "your_flag_here",
    "HasFlag |contains=your_flag_here": "true"
},

[hallow prism]

thanks! this would include the synced key for the random?

i will do some tests and see if it works for my use cases!

[royal stump]

as far as I know, those should work the same, yeah
FTM passes the whole thing to CP for it to handle directly

[uncut viper]

funnily enough none of this stuff is the stuff that bothers me about the mod page i just hate having to describe what my mod does and add pictures lmao

[latent mauve]

I have very little motivation to make a pretty mod page for myself but I could be convinced to write something up for other people xD

[oblique meadow]

Someday i'll put effort into my mod page(s)

[wise quartz]

hey I wanted to ask if anyone knows where in the code does Stardew Valley expanded register GMCM entries?

or if anyone knows who I can ask about this :p

[arctic jungle]

Hey everyone! I was having in issue and got some help about a week ago and we couldn't get the issue fixed, I was hoping that someone who is on now might be able to help.
The Issue: Broken opening scene when walking onto a custom farm from the bus station

[royal stump]

probably just by having a ConfigSchema in its CP component? I don't see it using GMCM in the C# part at a glance, anyway
(their public repo is here, though not necessarily up to date)
https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded

[obtuse wigeon]

it defo can, (ignore the mana bar infront), this is the snippet for it in my recolour:

{
    "Action": "EditImage",
    "Target": "FlyingTNT.Swim/OxygenBar",
    "PatchMode": "Overlay",
    "FromFile": "Compat/{{Target}}.png",
    "When": {
        "HasMod |contains= FlyingTNT.Swim": true
    }
},

[ornate trellis]

hmmm, musve a typo or something then

[lucid iron]

Can you walk through normally

[arctic jungle]

yes everything works to my knowledge, it is just the cutscene that seems broken. If need be I can totally stream it.

[wise quartz]

do you have any idea how they are able to include the gmcm entry key in the i18n file?

[latent mauve]

Are the warp coordinates in the intro event the same as your farm warp coordinates?

[wise quartz]

for example 'HarderBuildingConstruction' is able to use the translated version and show the correct localized one instead of the default english one

[uncut viper]

the content patcher docs describe what you need to put in your i18n for the config schema

[wise quartz]

what makes me more confused is that they don't do this with all of their entries 😭

[uncut viper]

i forget if its in the translation docs or the config docs

[royal stump]

not personally, but judging by CP's documentation here, you could add the missing keys to the CP pack's i18n files with the same format and its GMCM menu should use them:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md#translations
I'm not sure if it'll use keys that are only in a translation and not default, but it might

[arctic jungle]

I just tested, and no I warp directly on the tile that warps the play off the farm to the bus stop, but when out of the cutscene the warp brings me a couple of tiles in from the edge of the farm

[latent mauve]

the event warps the farmer to 79 17 on the Farm map, so confirm that the tile located there is a walkable space on your custom map

[warped raven]

Hello, a quick question about Content Patcher. Am I correct to think that it's not possible to patch an image with EditImage with an image already loaded by a Load instruction (using the content key instead of the image path) ?

[obtuse wigeon]

Currently that is not possible

[warped raven]

Ok, thanks !

[arctic jungle]

Ok I am making a custom map so my cords are a little different, but the y cords are the same. Will that change anything? Also if I remove that warp trigger doesn't that remove the capability to warp off of the farm on that 1 tile?

[latent mauve]

Is your custom farm's exit warp at 79 17?

If so, you will want to move that if possible (80 17, one tile to the right should be sufficient, but without knowing how your custom farm is laid out, I don't know if that's ideal or not for your case.)

[arctic jungle]

I have it at 117 17, and 1 tile to the right, want me to hop in a call rq to share myscreen rq?

[latent mauve]

what is located on your map at 79 17?

I'm on a short work break, so I can't really jump in a call rn

[arctic jungle]

that would be this tile

[latent mauve]

Your other option would be to edit the event so that the warp is different, but that's not a great solution for cross-compatibility in case anyone else edits the intro event.

Interesting that the screencap you showed earlier shows you at the edge of your map even when that's nowhere near the warp tile, does the game do something in the background to change those coords, I wonder?

[arctic jungle]

Here is a better photo I have set the green is the cords you provided blue is the cords I have set

[latent mauve]

(also just for a quick check, there are no invisible tiles on the edge of your map on the Building Layer near your blue circle?)

[arctic jungle]

and no I have all of the cord properties set for all of the entry points and let me check real quick on the layers

[latent mauve]

Robin warps in one tile to the left of the player, so it would be something to do with that exact spot where the player comes in.

[arctic jungle]

Ok I just confirmed that there are no invisible tiles in those spots only in the back layer, and the tile data I have set in those 8 spots are npc barriers and no spawns

[latent mauve]

I really doubt that weed on the original event's warp tile matters at all, since the game appears to be automatically placing you at the right edge of the map instead, but it wouldn't hurt to remove it just to check, I guess.

[soft lance]

Your bar thingy here looks like the malwarebytes logo, but pixelated

[arctic jungle]

Worth a shot 😂 brb to check

[obtuse wigeon]

I didn't reliase it did until now, It's just an A and a V overlayed, (it also looks like the symbol for an alembic from archaic alchemy)

[latent mauve]

if it does actually work, I have an idea as to why, but it would be silly.

[fair hull]

.... I'm a little bit curious about something. (Maybe because i'm bad at codding right now? lol).

I had designed a lots of seeds bags, but i was, just like... Could i just change the original sprites sheets and adding my own design inside?

A little like nyapu did, with the portrait. He(she?) did a mod for the vanilla game, and after that, just some "folders" for the mods.

Can i do that with item? (i mean... i know i can. But is it a good idea?)
It would be like, 100 time more simple for me T^T

[arctic jungle]

Nope that didn't fix it, here is a screenshot of my map properties in case you want to see those, also the blue square in the previous screen shot is cords 117 17 for reference

119 15 BusStop 11 23
119 18 BusStop 11 24
119 16 BusStop 11 23
119 17 BusStop 11 23
80 119 Forest 68 0
81 119 Forest 68 0
82 119 Forest 68 0
80 0 Backwoods 14 39
81 0 Backwoods 14 39
74 5 FarmCave 8 11

[latent mauve]

so I checked back in the chat logs and someone had a similar issue back in May where their farmer was apparently warping in 2 tiles over from where they were expected to be

[mild furnace]

Just got debugging purposes, can you delete the warps on 80?

Sorry, I mean rather this

Just delete one row of warp

[arctic jungle]

ok so make that 118 17 (1 tile to the right)? Is that what you mean?

[mild furnace]

Yes

[arctic jungle]

I can totally do that give me a moment to test

nope my character does still warp in at the same spot during the cutscene but does warp 1 tile to the right when out of the cutscene now

[latent mauve]

In case it's the 2 tiles over thing: could you try making sure there are 2 walkable tiles to the right of your BusStopEntry coords?

I'm opening up the standard farm to check a thing, LOL

[arctic jungle]

Should I remove the tiledata as well just for testing purposes?

[latent mauve]

it shouldn't matter

okay, so both the standard and meadowlands map have a warp set for the bus stop that is one tile off-screen

and the BusStopEntry field is the exact tile on the right at the visible edge of the screen

[arctic jungle]

oh ok so 120 17 then?

[latent mauve]

On Meadowlands map:

Warp: 100 22 BusStop 11 23```

and 99 22 is an actual tile and 100 22 is one to the right of that, off the map limit

So instead of the extra 2 tiles to the right on your map, go back to your original map size without the bonus tiles, and then set your warps accordingly

In case it matters, the only NPCBarrier tile is on the left-most column of them, like so:

But all of those are NoSpawn All tiles

[arctic jungle]

So the bus stop warp should always be 1 tile off the map, not the last tile visible on the map?

[oblique meadow]

For consistency with vanilla maps, always do zone warps 1 off the map

[latent mauve]

Seems like that's the best way to avoid problems, yes

(we should probably note that on a page or tutorial somewhere if it isn't already)

[oblique meadow]

because otherwise you may find inadvertant issue with things like zoning in on a horse. Or tractor. etc

[latent mauve]

I didn't see anything on the Modding:Maps page immediately, but I could also have just missed it

[arctic jungle]

Yup that totally did the trick , does that also apply to the forest, backwoods, and cave?

[latent mauve]

Since it's never come up before, I would hazard a guess that the Farm's hardcoding/changing of the coords is why you ran into an issue and it isn't likely to repeat elsewhere

[oblique meadow]

Yes. Generally speaking.

[latent mauve]

The other maps tend to respect the exact coordinates provided, which should already be spaced to avoid issues, afaik?

When it's possible, it won't hurt to do it that way

Sometimes the map design doesn't lend to it

[oblique meadow]

even if your warp is on the left edge of the map you can do -1

but there are exceptions to every rule

[arctic jungle]

Cool! Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the help!

[mighty quest]

The wiki says that any [prismatic jelly] not handed to the Wizard will disappear once the order is complete or expired. I can't find where this is handled in the code, if anyone has any ideas..

[hallow prism]

the special order has the :
"ItemToRemoveOnEnd": "876",

so while i can't help with code itself you may be able to find where the special order code is doing that

when it's called or whatever

[brave fable]

the mod page is the only thing that matters. if i could leave my clothes mod at several giant cute pictures of the clothes instead of actually drawing the clothes i'd be happy, but no. the page needs a mod for some godforsaken reason

i still have to redraw the hair. this world is a prison

[lucid iron]

Blueberry can I turn into a sailor senshi yet

[brave fable]

how high are your expectations

[lucid iron]

I expect 2 stock clips of the henshin and my one super effective attack

[brave fable]

you can wear their pants

[lucid iron]

Powerful statement

[vernal crest]

You can but no it's not a good idea, imo. It makes more work for the user and increases the chance that they'll make mistakes. I'd rather personally help you get a CP mod working than encourage you to make a replacer mod, so if you want to send me a zip of your mod I can help you get it working?

[lucid iron]

(to add here nyapu did it cus she doesn't know how to use CP and the docs are all in english)

[gentle rose]

(and I believe is working with someone on/already has worked with someone on making a content patcher version since then?)

[vernal crest]

Yeah Dolphin has been helping her get as much into CP as possible

[urban patrol]

how does the game determine proximity to land for fishing? is it tiles on the buildings layer, or is it specific to sand/dirt, etc?

[trim rover]

how do i go about learning to make a sdv mod, there is another mod which im using but to use it is such a nuicance because i have to constantly make small adjustments to the config file, open the game, then close it again. repeat like 100 times

i want to make a mod which can allow you to actually adjust the parts of the config with visuals in-game

instead of having to constantly restart it

[hard fern]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[trim rover]

thanks

[hard fern]

But this you can already do with gmcm

[obtuse wigeon]

!GMCM

[ocean sail]

Generic Mod Config Menu (or GMCM https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5098) adds the option to edit some, but not all, mod configs from either the title screen or the options page in a save. It also has a special screen to edit keybinds for all mods with GMCM integration.

The presence of the gear it adds to the title screen is not a method for checking whether mods are installed, only whether GMCM is installed.

To use this command, type !gmcm.

[trim rover]

oh yea i have that but for some reason the mod im using doesnt have an ingame gmcm menu

[hard fern]

Eh, if it's C# mod then it might not have it

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh they haven't defined a config schema then

[trim rover]

worst part is the mod doesnt have any real alternatives that i can use

[obtuse wigeon]

(or like forsy said)

[latent mauve]

It's worth noting that some mods can't or shouldn't have their config settings changed mid game, so it's possible depending on what change you are trying to implement, that trying to change it midgame will break things.

[tender bloom]

You’d need to:

• download the source code
• add GMCM support to the C# (not too hard, you might be able to use wrens code gen thing? But also not trivial)
• recompile mod

[vernal crest]

I think it's buildings tiles but you can probably check your map using chu's fishing zones tool

[urban patrol]

ooh i didn't even know that existed

is it on nexus or

[vernal crest]

Had to find it sorry https://github.com/Mushymato/StardewMods/releases/tag/FishZones-0.3.1

[urban patrol]

thanks google.
google: but is it compatible with--

[obtuse wigeon]

Just want to check before I look at mods incase I've got it wrong, helper.Events.Content.AssetRequested this is used to load assets into the game via the content pipeline right? (So they can be modified by a content pack)

[tired matrix]

Guys any guide of how to make a custom npc compatible with the they stay with you mod?

[hard fern]

😭

[urban patrol]

yeah, this is the example the wiki has. although i believe it's usually preferred/easier to have a dual mod where you add new content with CP instead (don't ask me why, someone else will know)

[obtuse wigeon]

That's what I was going off, just wanted to make sure I understood it before delving the depths of the deep C(#)

Thank you!

[tired matrix]

Anyone?

[urban patrol]

looking inside the files for they stay with you, there appears to be a file called CustomYourNPC.json. i would look into how that works

[obtuse wigeon]

b.Draw isn't loading via content pipeline is it? it's just directly drawing onto the map I'm thinking

Context:

public static void drawBiggerBackpack(SpriteBatch b) {
    b.Draw(bigBackpack, Game1.GlobalToLocal(new Vector2 (456f, 1088f)), new Rectangle(0, 0, 12, 14), Color.White, 0.0f, Vector2.Zero, Game1.pixelZoom, SpriteEffects.None, (float)(19.25 * Game1.tileSize / 10000.0));
}

[royal stump]

draw itself is just the literal "draw onto the screen" process, but the variable bigBackpack is the texture it's using there, which may or may not have been loaded through the pipeline

if you see something like bigBackpack = Game1.content.Load(...) earlier/elsewhere, it used the pipeline

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh okay, I don't think it is, This is the bigBackpack definition bigBackpack = Helper.ModContent.Load<Texture2D>("backpack.png");, but unlike JunimoNote.png there is no onAssetRequest or path at which the png is loaded to

[royal stump]

ah, yeah, I think ModContent loads directly from mod folders without making them targetable to other mods
(though I'm not 100% sure, I've never ended up using it)

[tired matrix]

Can i even code it inside my mod? Like using a when hasmod?

[brittle pasture]

They Stay With You is a mod that uses Trinket Tinker to add “trinkets” that spawn characters that look like those NPCs

[urban patrol]

i have no idea, sorry

[brittle pasture]

you want to look into TT’s documentation

and that mod’s template obviously

[obtuse wigeon]

Gotcha, thank you for your help! the C# osmosis is working, albiet slowly

[lucid iron]

https://mushymato.github.io/TrinketTinker/guide/000-Trinket.html

iirc they stay with you have a gmcm option to just let you enter whatever custom npc id

but u can make your own if u want

[obtuse wigeon]

If a texture is loaded via content pipline into a private readonly variable (private readonly Texture2D _textBoxTexture;) does that mean it can't be changed by a content pack? or is the readonly N/A when loaded by the game?

[brittle pasture]

what matters is where that Texture2D comes from

if it's from Game1.content.Load<Texture2D>("AssetNameHere") then you can totally use that asset name

[obtuse wigeon]

Okay perfect thank you!

[uncut viper]

its not preferred or easier for any technical reason, its completely fine to do anything and everything in the content pipeline from within your own C# mod. people just often say its easier to do it in CP instead because usually they will end up wanting to take advantage of tokens and When conditions and whatnot, and you might as well use CP instead of reinventing the wheel. but if you don't care about any of the CP specific features, there's no difference if you just do it in your C#

[urban patrol]

i see, good to know

[lucid iron]

imo editing images and map suck enough in C# that i prefer not to do it

[lucid mulch]

only benefit of doing it inside CP is you have the safety blanket of CP protecting you from future game updates with its migrations

[lucid iron]

as for editing data it depends on how much

when you have enough stuff u need to put in content it is just quicker to do it in cp cus it's all boilerplate

[lucid mulch]

regarding editing images its arguably just as much work, CP isn't editing the image either its just calling the SMAPI methods for editor.ExtendImage() and editor.PatchImage

[uncut viper]

to be fair this does rely on Pathos being around in the future too, which all else being equal if you think you have the same chances of being around in the future to update it yourself, the benefit is lost
that said most people dont have the same chances of being around as Pathos i think

[lucid iron]

yea but i gotta load the raw data n stuff too

[lucid mulch]

If pathos leaves stardew we have bigger problems then just CP migrations not being made

[lucid iron]

i think if pathos was somehow not around someone would pick up cp maint i volunteer sinz

[lucid mulch]

I would be doing PRs for the runtime migrations regardless

while my exact implementation didn't end up shipping for 1.6, my short novel on the learnings on my attempts were used for pathos's variant

[uncut viper]

also some breaking changes might not even get migration rewriters

[brittle pasture]

CP's biggest convenience (for me) is editing custom assets without needing DLL references or a godly mountain of reflection

[obtuse wigeon]

imo CP's biggest convienience for me is entirely just JSON, it takes so much less effort to read

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm suprised it took me this long to realise who spacechase0 on nexus is.... It's only just clicked because of the github profile pic

[drowsy pewter]

yeah she changed her username a long time ago but since all the mods and stuff are under the old username it never changed

[tiny zealot]

i don't think it's that surprising. casey doesn't use that name anymore

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh that makes a lot more sense, thankfully I was able to change mine before I had anything major on it, it's such a pain to update it when theres stuff relying on it

[gaunt orbit]

Yeah but you can use json from c# too. Just not for the fancier stuff

[obtuse wigeon]

True that's a good point, but CP doesn't need any extra C# stuff from me relating to parsing JSON

[gaunt orbit]

I frequently just dump data entries in a json file and then autoprefix them into the dictionary

[obtuse wigeon]

If I made it myself it 100% would thats for sure, but pathos is fantastic and made CP so I we wouldn't have to

[gaunt orbit]

True, but if I'm already using c# and just need to do a few small edits, cp just seems like extra work

[lucid iron]

weirdly enough if i have to edit something in C# i rather do it in the code where i have intellisence stuff in case i forgor field

[gaunt orbit]

I would use a separate cp component only if the content edits are significant and/or make good use of tokens

[obtuse wigeon]

Thats's why I use the the schema, not exactly intellisence but close enough for my purposes

[gaunt orbit]

Editing maps with c# though... fuck that

Been there, hated that

[obtuse wigeon]

Pffft, seeing how these C# mods I'm looking through do it, I agree MASSIVELY

[tiny zealot]

i have one C# map patch. it's a bit gnarly but it lets me selectively change particular tiles in an area, which was helpful for doing compatibility without having to make several different tmx files

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm so tempted to start PRing some mods just so they load assets through content and not directly from files, it's only a few thankfully

[gaunt orbit]

The two cardinal sins of c# modding are skipping the content pipeline and not having gmcm support

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm glad Happy Home Designer has both

[gaunt orbit]

Thanks

[latent mauve]

Question for those of you who use i18n regularly: do you use {{ModId}} in your i18n keys?

[lucid mulch]

Profiler violates the second, and Speedy Solutions partially violates the first

[tiny zealot]

no, i18n keys are already mod-scoped

[latent mauve]

awesome, I thought they were but I couldn't remember

[uncut viper]

also you cant use the token in the key anyway

[latent mauve]

I remembered vaguely there being an issue with tokens in i18n

but couldn't remember what the issue was exactly

[uncut viper]

you can use tokens in the value, just not the key/name of the i18n

[gaunt orbit]

Profiler's config is less options and more retooling though isn't it?

Also what does speedy solutions do that involves loading from mod files directly?

[lucid mulch]

Its config, its variable tuning for how aggressive the logs should go, I deliberately dont have GMCM because I don't want to deal with those variables changing mid-run

and speedy solutions has its own cache for Data/AudioChanges so it can do diffs on the asset and ignores Invalidation

[gaunt orbit]

Well, that's not really what I meant

[lucid mulch]

and Shared Spaces also heavily uses GetInternalAssetName for any texture it needed

[gaunt orbit]

Okay that is genuinely evil

[lucid mulch]

if you want to replace the texture go edit the asset and point the texture to something else

[lucid iron]

don't need gmcm support if your mod has no configs

[gaunt orbit]

Sometimes no config is just easier

[lucid iron]

for some of my menu mods i been thinking of moving the config out of gmcm

[uncut viper]

i personally think people should recycle their configs

need a bool config? reflect into another mod that has one and use that

[lucid iron]

sorry my configs go straight into the landfill

[uncut viper]

saddest short stories

[lucid mulch]

I feel like I could cause a lot of explosions if I did that to SMAPI's config for paranoid mode or its harmony disabling mode

[twilit quest]

What controls where a letter shows up in the letter collections menu? They seem to be chronological, but for some reason, one of the letters is showing up "early" - instead of the most recent letter, it's showing up in the first row between older letters.

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm a bit confused, is there multiple ways of loading assets via the content pipeline? i.e. snippet from SmartBuilding

 if (e.NameWithoutLocale.IsEquivalentTo("Mods/SmartBuilding/ToolButtons"))
    e.LoadFromModFile<Texture2D>("assets/Buttons.png", AssetLoadPriority.Low);

This seems like it would do the same as .content.Load<Texture2D> right?

[uncut viper]

well you cant just Load something from nowhere. if you want to call Game1.content.Load() on an asset, it needs to exist

putting that in the AssetRequested event is basically the same as a Content Patcher Load action to supply the base file

[lucid mulch]

    public void LoadFromModFile<TAsset>(string relativePath, AssetLoadPriority priority)
        where TAsset : notnull
    {
        IModMetadata mod = this.GetMod();
        this.LoadOperations.Add(
            new AssetLoadOperation(
                Mod: mod,
                OnBehalfOf: null,
                Priority: priority,
                GetData: _ => mod.Mod!.Helper.ModContent.Load<TAsset>(relativePath)
            )
        );
    }

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh okay, I've just been seeing layed out differently. but that's because it's split up and not together like that, gotcha, I understand now

[uncut viper]

you wont see it like that snippet SinZ sent, thats just the SMAPI internals

[lucid mulch]

tl;dr

e.LoadFromModFile<Texture2D>("assets/Buttons.png", AssetLoadPriority.Low);

is syntatic sugar for

e.LoadFrom(() => Helper.ModContent.Load<Texture2D>("assets/Buttons.png"), AssetLoadPriority.Low);

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh sorry by "not together like that" I meant the snippet from Smart Building, my fault I didn't clarify properly

[crimson kettle]

can anyone tell me what did i do wrong, why do the texture appear very weird

https://smapi.io/json/none/041c4bc9a7194dc0bca069e8d05ad610

[obtuse wigeon]

Good to know, thank you both for clearing that up for me

[tired matrix]

OMG THANK TOU

guys is it possible to make my npc change outfits when entering a place like the mines? Can i add a dynamic token for this?

[lucid iron]

There's a built-in system for doing that called Variants

https://mushymato.github.io/TrinketTinker/guide/002-Variant.html

For changes that happen dynamically you would use AltVariants

With a condition to check being in the mines

[vital lotus]

Can CP mod make new page or only show certain config when other mods r present with GMCM? Basically conditional config

[vernal crest]

Nope

It's one of the things the content modders yearn for

(Along with the foreach and the asset forwarding)

[tired matrix]

thank you again!

[vital lotus]

I suppose I could make different mod folder just for the compatch

[vital lotus]

Love wins...

Oh thought it's modded farmer 💀

[urban patrol]

what layer do NPC shadows draw on? is it behind buildings?

[drowsy pewter]

@light jasper I want to apologize for completely missing your PR to add custom tree names to cornucopia from months ago. I have no idea how I missed it, maybe I saw it and forgot or maybe didnt get notified as im not the owner of the git repo

[brave fable]

yep, immediately behind buildings. the exact order is background -> back -> water -> floor -> shadows -> buildings -> crabpots -> front -> ...

[tired matrix]

Its harder than i thought, im going insane

[brave fable]

i now pronounce you wife and pants

[hard fern]

omg

theyre so cute

[brave fable]

colour picking these is actually way too addictive. but also anything to avoid drawing the next ~228 pants frames

[fading walrus]

They look so goooood

[brave fable]

thankuuuuu this is going to take absolutely forever

maybe even longer

[fading walrus]

Blueb stronk
You got this!

[brave fable]

it's hard enough to make legs and pleats look good when they're standing still

i learned very quickly that those nice pleats on the front can't actually be done in Pants because i only have about 8 pixels wide to work with

i kind of scuffed it for an npc a while ago (a year? more? wtf) but it doesn't work for players from the size and scale differences etc

[hallow prism]

it is also not the same number of frame

npcs are less hell

[brave fable]

honestly i'd rather make a dozen pairs of pants than one npc

and at this point i probably have lol

[round dock]

Oh blueberry these look so good

(QUUIIIIIIIIILLLLLL)

[fading walrus]

(CLAAAAAAAAAAAAIRE!!!!)

[magic zodiac]

Hi random question cause Idk where else to ask, does anyone know if Aimon111 is still active as a modder? I need their permission to add a fix for their mod to make it compatible with cabins (I fixed it for me but obviously im not gonna share it with others)

[round dock]

If it’s just for personal use and not for distribution, i think it’s generally ok

[round dock]

(aimon isn’t very active on this server tho, no)

[drowsy pewter]

you can still ping or dm them tho

[fading walrus]

What 6480 said

[magic zodiac]

Ok ty!

[magic zodiac]

Well the thing is, a lot of people have stated they’re having that issue and had to stop using it for that specific reason, so I wanted to like…help🤷🏻‍♀️
Im not a modder😂
But I really REALLY was persistent on having it

So i figured it out

[round dock]

Oh, I see. That’s really nice of you. Like 6480 said, you can try dming or pinging them in any case

[magic zodiac]

@wicked gulch can you pls dm me to let me know? or I would be more than happy to tell you what I did so you can update the mod

[hallow prism]

i'd rather make a dozen of npc than one pair of pants (unless just recolor counts 😄 )

[hard fern]

i'd rather make. one npc than one pants

[brave fable]

go on then. prove it 😌

[hallow prism]

i don't even know how many i have exactly on VMV now

[hard fern]

technically I already have, twice

[brave fable]

cold wind. light rain. open window. dusk at spring. dire straits album. 180 more pants frames to go. and we've got nothing but time 😌

tonight i will draw the pants kissing frame with hakama in 12 flavours.

[vernal crest]

Braver than any US marine

[fading walrus]

Which album 👀

[brave fable]

oh, just their alchemy live set. it's really unbeatable

[fading walrus]

Good choice

[cold marsh]

I'm making my own large eggs mod and I'm running into an issue where changing the sprite for the vanilla void egg causes existing void egg items in the world to have their sprites blanked out. Is there a way to work around this?

{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/Objects",
    "When": { "HasFlag |contains=EggUpgradesEnabled": true },
    "Fields": {
    "305": {
    "SpriteIndex": 6,
    "Texture": "Mods/Sunsketchx/Eggitems",
}
}
},```

I'm not sure why the sprite for existing ones gets blanked out, I'd expect it to keep the old sprite at the very least

[drowsy pewter]

dont change the texture just use editimage to patch the original image

the reason it gets blanked out is because the texture path changes but the spriteindex is not changed in existing objects

so it is still the old spriteindex of the void egg on your new custom texture

to change vanilla sprites EditImage is the best approach unless you really need a different method for a very specific reason

You can even EditImage using your current custom texture as the source image

[cold marsh]

I didn't think of that at all. That works, thanks

[drowsy pewter]

np

[twilit quest]

Why would a received mail appear "out of order" in the mail collection menu? Does it have to do with when the house is upgraded?

[tiny zealot]

what order are you expecting?

[twilit quest]

Order received? It seems to be mostly chronological, but the first letter (from my mod) after each upgrade appears "earlier" in the menu than expected.

For most of the letters, if I check the menu right after receiving them, they are the last letter.

[tiny zealot]

if i'm in the right place, this is how the game adds them to the collections page:

Dictionary<string, string> mail = DataLoader.Mail(Game1.content);
foreach (string s in Game1.player.mailReceived)
{
    if (mail.TryGetValue(s, out var rawText))
    {
        // add to List to prepare for draw```
so it seems to be in the order the HashSet gives them up for iterating

[twilit quest]

I understood some of that. How does HashSet work?

[tiny zealot]

it's sort of like a hash table (constant time access), but it can't contain duplicate values (it's a set), so the items you add also serve as the keys

or maybe they just are the keys and the values aren't useful, i'm not clear on the specifics because it's part of System.Collections(.Generic)

[twilit quest]

The behavior in game seems to be typically that a letter will appear as the most recent one after your read it. So the values of the keys probably shouldn't matter?

[tiny zealot]

the short answer is the sort order is not your fault, but also it's not really in your control

[twilit quest]

That's what I was afraid of XD

[tiny zealot]

unless you patch the collections page code to change how it iterates

[twilit quest]

nods Definitely beyond the scope of this mod

[tiny zealot]

or maybe there's some deep magic incantation to change the HashSet sort order when using foreach but that is likely to cause unrelated problems so i would not advise looking for that

[twilit quest]

Yeah, I'll be sticking with what I've got and putting a note on the mod page. It's a little bit unfortunate, since I'm including hints in the letters that people may want to reference later, and it will be hard to find a letter if it's not 'in order'. But I think I've encountered this occasionally even in vanilla, so it's definitely beyond my control right now.

[warped raven]

"Key features of HashSet: It does not maintain any order of elements, meaning you cannot predict in which order elements will be returned." It DOES sound like a challenge though

[calm nebula]

Yes

[tiny zealot]

oh yeah, finding a particular letter in that menu is a nightmare

[twilit quest]

I'll put that on my list of things to look into after I learn C# ^_^;

[calm nebula]

For Reasons TM the net hash set and dictionaries do not guarantee order BUT

[tiny zealot]

"here, 72 identical icons and you only have hover tooltips! good luck!"

[calm nebula]

Inserting happens at the end

Erinthe made a mod that has letter backgrounds and stuff

And deleting an entry makes the order fun

[calm nebula]

(Fwiw, this is inherently a property of hash sets)

[twilit quest]

Sounds like a very challenging challenge indeed

[calm nebula]

This might be a good talk aboit it

https://youtu.be/p33CVV29OG8?si=mvsISAO7R-8q-tWs

I say "might" because I haven't watched it, but python dictionaries preserve insertion order

Tbf a spacecore guidebook (see example from s&s)

May work better

[lucid iron]

You can also use BETAS to show the letter now

Which means u can have letters attached to some real item

[twilit quest]

Hmm

This is for Broken Farmhouse, which is pretty much finished (I discovered the out-of-order letter thing in some final testing) so I think I'll leave it as-is and give folks other resources on the mod page. But I appreciate the idea, @lucid iron - that might be interesting for a future mod

[lucid mulch]

not sure if thats the talk im thinking of but I remember a talk or tweet from him regarding ordereddict

might have been https://x.com/raymondh/status/850102884972675072 I think?

[warped raven]

looks like in practice the order of the hashset is assured to be the insertion order, until something is removed from it. A simple hack would be to call HashSet.TrimExcess() before adding a new letter, as that clear the freeList in the HashSet. Should (famous last word) be simple to patch it in with Harmony if anyone really want to do it.

that completely remove any benefits from using a HashSet, but it's not like adding a letter every 10 minutes is really performance critical

[tiny zealot]

the game checks against the contents of that set very often, so it having the benefits of a hashset is a fairly critical performance upgrade from pre-1.6 days

[lucid iron]

Isn't the actual problem just UI side (want to sort the letters in collections page)

[warped raven]

Ha, yes, I’m talking specifically of the write perf that that patch would totally destroy

Took the nuclear approach

Is the time of reception stored with the mail somehow ?

[lucid iron]

Hm i guess not

~~ A second hashset ~~

[rough briar]

so im tryna fix the kitchen error smapi gives:

System.ArgumentException: Can't apply image patch because the source image is smaller than the source area. (Parameter 'source')
   at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Content.AssetDataForImage.PatchImage(IRawTextureData source, Nullable`1 sourceArea, Nullable`1 targetArea, PatchMode patchMode) in E:\source\_Stardew\SMAPI\src\SMAPI\Framework\Content\AssetDataForImage.cs:line 42
   at ContentPatcher.Framework.Patches.EditImagePatch.Edit[T](IAssetData asset) in E:\source\_Stardew\Mods.Pathoschild\ContentPatcher\Framework\Patches\EditImagePatch.cs:line 166
   at ContentPatcher.Framework.PatchManager.ApplyEdits[T](ICollection`1 patches, IAssetData asset) in E:\source\_Stardew\Mods.Pathoschild\ContentPatcher\Framework\PatchManager.cs:line 632
[09:46:34 TRACE SMAPI] Content Patcher edited Maps/farmhouse_tiles (for the 'Rilakkuma Kitchen' content pack).```
looked at the code, and this is what it says
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/673adfe969094149a39a6695853f5a35

wow thats huge

can i collapse that paragraph somehow..

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[rigid musk]

you can paste- yeah

[lucid iron]

Post it as link

[rigid musk]

chu is speed

[rough briar]

ah

okok lemme edit the msg then rq

[gray bear]

log says issue is with the 4th one

[lucid iron]

How big is the source image?

[oblique meadow]

Mod in question if it helps:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/14471

[rough briar]

192 x 320

[iron ridge]

"Y": 304,
"Width": 48,
"Height": 48

you can't read outside of the image

it's trying to get an image from 304 - 368, which is higher than the height of 320

[rough briar]

oohh

[gray bear]

is the og mod like that

[rough briar]

yea

[gray bear]

is it, hmm.

what's the point in having "Target": "farmhouse_tiles, Maps/farmhouse_tiles",?

[rough briar]

i think it is atleast, i dont remember messing w the code itself or images

[gray bear]

yeah i downloaded to check

[rough briar]

anyways it is an older mod so im not surprised its having some hiccups

[gray bear]

won't a single patch on overlay just solve these problems

[rough briar]

hasnt been updated since 2022 but works perfectly fine, aside from that patch LOLL

hmm maybe

[gray bear]

oh won't cause kinda different

would need 2

[latent mauve]

A lot of older mods that edited (and extended) farmhouse_tiles broke in the 1.6 update, when some unused files were removed.

[gray bear]

oh

farmhouse_tiles is now 192 x 352

[rough briar]

ahhh

[near island]

Would anyone mind testing a "friendly hutch slimes" mod for me? I've only got 1 save with a slime hutch to test with. One or two slimes will still occasionally lunge at you, but they can't do any damage and they go back to minding their own business after.

[oblique meadow]

I already reached out to the mod author to see if they would allow me to update the mod

They havent modded since 2023

(nor logged in)

[rough briar]

its an adorable mod tho thats for sure

[gray bear]

actually should be fine

[near island]

Or if anyone can share some unmodded saves with a slime hutch I'd appreciate it!

[gray bear]

although, their image doesn't have anything there so like

why

thonk

[gray bear]

did farmhouse_tiles used to be smaller

i mean unless im missing something their patch would never have worked and if it would've it'd just delete those tiles

maybe this code is from another kitchen mod that did edit those

[rough briar]

-# also unrelated but the fridge animation sprites are in craftables, right? because i need to make the sprites match the mod since it doesnt have those

[gray bear]

ye

[rough briar]

alr thank u

[rigid musk]

i can send my unmodded save to you if you want

[oblique meadow]

Tiled plugins are just Javascript right?

nothing fancy beyond that?

[iron ridge]

pretty much

[oblique meadow]

Oh man. I know what im doing today

[iron ridge]

but it's not standard-following

as in, no console, no Math (iirc?)

[oblique meadow]

I can poke around the nuances. I just want to automate my Daytiles, nighttiles, and light

Because remembering the exact format everytime is tedious

[rough briar]

hmmmm i wonder if this would work..
i added the open sprites BUT i also changed the 48s in the 4th patch to be 16

oh my god it worked YAAY

no more red errors + new fridge

[agile flame]

damn that looks adorable

[vernal crest]

It's going to be pretty quick to set up saves for a slime hutch. debug build "Slime Hutch" will build one to the right of where the farmer is standing, then you can use CJB Item Spawner to get yourself some slime eggs and put them in the incubators. Then debug dayupdate 4 to make it act like have days have passed and hopefully that will hatch them - but if that doesn't work you can just do debug sleep four times in a row.

[near island]

Thank you very much!

I only had a modded save to work with. Lily sent me hers which was super nice. I'll try this too just to be thorough!

[vernal crest]

If for some reason you can't debug build the slime hutch you can debug ws robin to warp both yourself and robin to her shop and access her build menu that way, and just cheat the money.

I make new saves for almost everything that I test so I know a lot of quick ways to get stuff done lol

[near island]

Idk why I didn't think of debug commands. Thank you again!

[soft lance]

I'm going to steal your fridge.

Give me it, now.

I double dog dare you

triple dog

Its so adorable

[scarlet knoll]

Is there a way to see in game which tilesheet a specific tile is being pulled from? I'm having a really hard time locating a couple.

[oblique meadow]

On a map? Or in what context?

[karmic gust]

I'm away from my PC right now but I believe there's a config setting in Lookup Anything that let's you see all of a tile's information, including the tilesheet

[vernal crest]

Yeah if it's a map it's easy as

[karmic gust]

In game I should specify

[scarlet knoll]

Yeah. There's a few tiles in town that arent being recolored by my mod and I can't figure out why.

[vernal crest]

Then Lookup Anything with tile lookups turned on is what you want

[scarlet knoll]

I didnt know it had that feature, thank you!

[vernal crest]

It's an incredibly invaluable mod for any kind of modmaking work

[agile flame]

just heard about the mod yesterday and now everybody talks about it. and they say i'm mot the center of the universe

[tiny zealot]

oh, that's just baader-meinhof

[soft lance]

literally how 6 7 became a meme

and the meme makes no sense

[agile flame]

let me have my moment

[worldly wadi]

Ik this is wrong D: but I tried everything and the forage still won't appear. I used BETAS to create a specific token for my spring forage. Sorry for the dumb question, is my first time coding something big like this.

Can some1 help me?

Like, Idk what to do, genuinely.

I tried everything

[gentle rose]

where did you get this syntax from?

[tender bloom]

forage is governed by a location's entry in Locations data iirc, this is just Loading the tmx file

[worldly wadi]

Idk I'm confused I don't even know what I'm doing anymore

[tender bloom]

and then the forage stuff is random extra stuff that can't do anything because it's just stuffed in there

here's a wiki page that might help with understanding what i just said : https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data

[gentle rose]

okay, where did you look that said to add forage in though? just so we have a frame of reference and can help you be less confused

[fair hull]

Hello, sorry for the late respond, my internet die yesterday.

I would ne really grateful to get some help, when my connection will get back. Can i send you a message in a few days? We can discuss what i can do to make the better possible path for my project. (Maybe it's a little too big for me ahah)

[vernal crest]

Yes sure you can DM me when you're ready. Sorry your internet died!

[worldly wadi]

I tried to add the forage stuff looking at the wiki, adding it directly on the map load thingy. Then it didn't work, so I tried to do it separately by doing action editmap and then it still didn't work. I also have the codes for the items itselves and it worked, I just can't put them on the map.
The point is, I searched everywhere and I wasn't able to find specifically where to put. I might have read something wrong bc all the wikis are in English and it's not my first language (Also I'm diagnosed with certain thingies that influence my line of thinking and understanding.).

[vernal crest]

You're not supposed to add it to the map. You need to add it to your Data/Locations EditData patch like the wiki says.

[tender bloom]

Look for Data/Locations in your unpacked Content folder

That is what you need to be editing, using an EditData patch

[fair hull]

Thank you OJZ.

[worldly wadi]

I'll try this, and I'll try not to get lost like before

[worldly wadi]

I'll keep this in mind!

Thank youuuuuuu

[vernal crest]

It might help you if you find your Data/Locations EditData patch in your json and share it with us before you try adding anything to it so we can tell you that it's the right place or help you find the right place if you didn't pick the right thing. To save you more wasted effort.

[worldly wadi]

Like this for now?

[worldly wadi]

I'll try to add on my {{ModId}}_Town for now

[vernal crest]

Maybe show a bit more of it, since two lines is a bit hard to be certain it's the right one

[worldly wadi]

I'm rewriting it

Again

For the 20th time AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[vernal crest]

No, you can't have a FromFile field in an EditData patch

[worldly wadi]

I'll change it

[oblique meadow]

As long as you learned something the first 19 times, that's ok

[vernal crest]

Do you have a backup from before you started trying to add the forage?

[worldly wadi]

Yes

[agile flame]

only 20 times? try my 1000 times rewrite

[worldly wadi]

I'm learning to use BETAS and to hate myself

[vernal crest]

Go back to that, if your location was working in game with it

[tender bloom]

!json this website is a nice way to send jsons

[worldly wadi]

I think it's bc I'm still in the beginning, I'll reach 1000 times soon

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[worldly wadi]

My location was working perfectly, warps, outside and stuff. The only thing is adding forage on the game

So yea

Adding like, on the map

I mean

[vernal crest]

Then definitely go back to that because all you need to do to get the forage working is add it to what you already had for Data/Locations.

[latent mauve]

Just to make it super clear, loading your TMX with your FromFile and editing the data in Data/Locations are two separate patches and you have to do both for what you are trying to do

[vernal crest]

Yes, you do not add forage by touching anything to do with the map at all, despite how strange that seems

[oblique meadow]

That always weirded me out too

[worldly wadi]

Do you guys think that leaving the forage for later is a good idea?

Since I'm stuck there?

[oblique meadow]

Couldn't FTM add forage around town too?

TECHNICALLY speaking

Since you can specify maps

[vernal crest]

Yes but that won't be easier for them

[vernal crest]

If you think you'll feel better after taking a break to work on something else, that's always a good idea. If you do more json work on another part of your mod it might also help you understand more and make it easier to do the forage when you come back to it.

[worldly wadi]

I'll do this then! I'll work on something else for now.

[vernal crest]

I often find that even doing stuff that isn't modding or even sleeping helps me when I'm stuck because my brain keeps working on it in the background and it can give me new ideas or understanding.

[worldly wadi]

I'll take a break on that, tysmmmmm

[agile flame]

if i use the pathos nuget package in vs do i need to edit the cproj?

[tiny zealot]

you need to have the package reference in the csproj, yes.
you can do it by hand, or (more likely) VS does it for you when you do something in the menus about it

[wraith bay]

"AllowValues": "0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14", is converted to a slider in GMCM which would normally be great but is there a way to force it back to a dropdown?

[tender bloom]

If this is via CP I think there isn’t much flexibility

GMCM does everything automated when it reads configs from CP

[wraith bay]

Fair enough. I can work around it, would have just simplified things.

[brittle pasture]

well "zero, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen" is always an option

/lh obv

[wraith bay]

yeah, i'm going to have to rename stuff. i was just avoiding it to keep moving assets between cp and at implementation simple.

they're already named with texture_ i can just add that to the variables 🤦‍♀️ i need more coffee

[tiny zealot]

add one option that isn't a number or isn't contiguous with the others should do it, i think

[wraith bay]

I switched the fromfile from texture_{{style}} to {{style}} and changed the values to preappend texture_ and that worked a charm. the values all get translated by the i18n now (which is why i care at all). before you had to look at a picture and reference the numbers, so this should make it a lot more user friendly!

[shut edge]

is there a tool to semi automate converting a mod to support i18n?

[fathom rapids]

i would love it if there was

[urban patrol]

there is! https://nom0ri.github.io/sdv-i18nifier-app/

[shut edge]

nice

https://i.imgur.com/2dABsdt.png

yeah that might work, rad

[fathom rapids]

ooo

[urban patrol]

my recommendation is to put the commands like %additem outside of i18n though, because the behavior can be kind of weird

oh wait it automatically did! that’s awesome

i don’t think it used to

[shut edge]

hell yeah

[fathom rapids]

came too late for my seasonal farmer looks mod T_T (or at least i learned too late)

[shut edge]

seems like it doens't like my item data tho, orz

still, helpful

[uncut viper]

if its doing something unexpected or broken with something you put in it, Nomori may be interested in knowing
(make sure you're using the right i18n category tho)

[shut edge]

i imagine i'm putting it in there wrong somehow tbh

or too much at once

[uncut viper]

the amount at once doesnt matter

[tiny zealot]

i'd still ask nomori

if you did it wrong, they'll know best how to do it right

and if you did it right and there's a bug, they'll want to fix it

[shut edge]

that makes sense

[uncut viper]

it may not be a mod per se but its still a tool an author made and bug reports are often appreciated!

[shut edge]

anyone know if they are cool with a highlight?

[uncut viper]

a ping?

[shut edge]

yea

or maybe i should PM

[uncut viper]

ive pinged Nomori before and their dn doesnt say anythin about it, and they were around as of like, 30min ago, so you're probably fine

[shut edge]

@whole raptor if you've got a moment i maybe am having an issue with your site (or user error)

[uncut viper]

i would just say what the error is in your message, though

[shut edge]

it's just coming up as Incorrect format

https://i.imgur.com/4ljiyrN.png

[urban patrol]

does that still happen if you do it one item at a time?

(also btw, it’s recommended that name and the key of the entry match)

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/yjXVrik.png

yep

yeah i prob need to change that

havne't worked on this mod in quite awhile

[uncut viper]

(they should absolutely 100% match)

does it work if you change Displayname in your json to DisplayName with a capital N

[shut edge]

nah, same thing

[uncut viper]

ive got nothin then

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/0jaxHcb.png

[urban patrol]

i wonder if it doesn’t like the order

[whole raptor]

Can you post the string you're trying to convert? I'll try and see what's wrong

[urban patrol]

oh nomori’s here yay

[shut edge]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/35f097a2451e41e8a2aa27ec130ae8c5

here's the whole file

if that's ok

thanks for your time

(anyone else feel free to review for problems too etc)

the mail stuff worked fine as dialog, thankfully

the object data is what is hasslin me

[gray bear]

it works if u rearnage it

[shut edge]

welp

thought i tried that lol

[whole raptor]

Oh, yeah... I guess the check is done in a dumb way

[shut edge]

well if that's all it is that's easy enough. mildly tedious but i'll live.

[gray bear]

i guess displayname and description need to be like that

[whole raptor]

I can fix it in like... 10 minutes, so you won't have to switch anything

[shut edge]

nah i think the way you have it is the standard practice i just somehow reversed them

oh, rad, thank you

[whole raptor]

Or maybe not that quick, I thought it was just the check that's done in order for those 2, but the conversion itself is the same

[gray bear]

inchresting

[shut edge]

no rush, i'll try it again later tonight or somethin

[whole raptor]

There are a looot of extremely dumb implementation in this converter, I'm sometimes surprised how it works as well as it does 😅

[shut edge]

you could probably make it order the fields correctly if you cared to i suppose

but effort prob

[uncut viper]

thats the problem with "make it work then make it better"
sometimes we like to conveniently """forget""" the make it better part
(i am very guilty of this all around my docs/tutorials too)