making-mods-general

[latent mauve]

Hmmm.

[gentle rose]

that mod is console code, not console commands. it does something completely different

[sleek flint]

Has anyone made turtlla? A turtle made of tortilla.

[latent mauve]

Actually, I hadn't missed it, but the token didn't update for some reason

[verbal narwhal]

thanks, button explained it to me

[gentle rose]

yeah, I was just explaining the other side of it (what the nexus one does)

[verbal narwhal]

do i need to refer to the fish as (O)camiska.CPFrogTank_Tadpole instead of camiska.CPFrogTank_Tadpole for PLAYER_HAS_CAUGHT_FISH

[hallow prism]

i don't believe it would be needed

you can always test with a vanilla fish with just the number

see if it works

[latent mauve]

There's nothing particularly weird with the Life Elixir description, right?

[verbal narwhal]

good idea thanks!

[latent mauve]

I'm trying to figure out why changing the config from Salsa to Beans or starting with the config on Beans still results in Salsa for that entry only

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/94c673ccd64b469585328693ba0ad128

[hallow prism]

hmm

is one of the person that is able to look at the code can verify if the GSQ is working properly?

[latent mauve]

actually, lemme confirm it's just that one, I'll get the vampire ring to double check, in case it's something weird with the Lowercase interaction

[hallow prism]

i don't believe the base game uses it

and if i test with a vanilla fish it doesn't return true

[hallow prism]

camiska, i suggest you take a break 🙂

[verbal narwhal]

yeah it needs the (O)

[hallow prism]

ah yes, good!

[verbal narwhal]

oh am I spamming up too much here?
sorry!

[hallow prism]

oh no

let me clarify

[latent mauve]

Well, suddenly the life elixir works and I did nothing

[hallow prism]

i suggested a break so someone can check on the token

but in the meantime you found it needed the (O)

[verbal narwhal]

ah ok^^

[hallow prism]

so it's solved 😄

i added "qualified" in the wiki so people can know they need the (O), even if i'm not even sure if it is possible to have non items that count as fish

[late pewter]

I don't think so? The +100% Life part of the description should be defined by other metadata, not by the description itself.

[latent mauve]

Well, it decided to work when I reloaded the game, so this might just be one of those config options that needs to be done when you're not in the save file.

Weird that it was only the item description that had that limitation but, it works as long as I don't change it during the save file.

Also, if only:

[lucid iron]

did you edit by editing Data/Objects or by Strings/Objects?

[latent mauve]

Strings/Objects

[lucid iron]

that is weird then life elixir is just food

[latent mauve]

All of the text changes are to the files within Strings

[uncut viper]

fishId = ItemRegistry.QualifyItemId(fishId);
if (fishId != null)
{
  return Helpers.WithPlayer(context.Player, playerKey, (Farmer target) => Helpers.AnyArgMatches(query, 2, (string id) => target.fishCaught.ContainsKey(id)));
}

(PLAYER_HAS_CAUGHT_FISH is probably supposed to qualify the ID inside the AnyArgMatches check, but it isnt)

[latent mauve]

How likely is it that the Strings/Objects data gets cached at game start and doesn't clear until save is reloaded?

[lucid mulch]

well smapi makes every asset at least partially cached

[lucid iron]

object desc do get cached on the object

[lucid mulch]

but the object name/desc also persist in save and wont clear on restart

[latent mauve]

Well, the description is using a token {{Filling Type}}, that is set by my config option

So that seems to be checked again on save reload

[lucid mulch]

for those fields that bake into save you should use the vanilla LocalizeText system thing

and can freely change what you aim it at whenever without issue

[latent mauve]

Would making an entry that's just "salsa" or "beans" from the {{Filling Type}} token and then calling that via LocalizedText actually help instead of just being extra work for the same end result?

At the end of the day, it's a joke mod, so it's not a huge deal if the two items in the entire base game that can reference salsa or beans in the description with no other changes can't swap between the two words while in-game, I guess.

[lucid mulch]

hmm looking into it, I dont see where description would even cache

[latent mauve]

my JSON for that section and the config is here, it was mostly just confusing behavior?

Regardless, I'll probably just go ahead and publish it as soon as I do a retexture of the Energy elixir to not have E on it

[verbal narwhal]

ugh and it still doesnt trigger the mail q.q

or do i need to list seperate AND conditions like this "condition A", "condition B", etc?

and not in one ""

[lucid mulch]

Ah changing the string doesn't propagate to the object to recompute the tokenized value

Adding [Season] to one of the names/descriptions I think will also desync if the season changes due to not being re-evaluated I think

[hallow prism]

no, it should be a comma separated list like you did

are all the other conditions valid?

i believe debug gq can test all of them at once except the cp token

[lucid mulch]

for a dumb hack that by accident might fix it, try adding a patch that sets a CustomField on the affected items in Data/Objects with the Fillling Type value

and force objects to invalidate when your config changes which in turn will load the description again

[verbal narwhal]

mhm it retrunrs {{HasMod|contains=camiska.FrogTankFrogEgg}} as false and throws an error

[autumn tide]

uhh hey! working on a letter + quest; the goal is that Emily sends the player a letter, along with a fruit salad, and a question about how she should refer to krobus. This triggers a quest to give krobus a fruit salad. If you speak to emily afterwards, she will express disappointment that krobus disliked the food, and ask about how to refer to Krobus.

`"{{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest":"Hi! ^How are you doing? I had some spare ingredients at the saloon and I wanted to make some food for Krobus. Let me know if they like it! :) ^ Love, Emily < ^ P.S. : What pronouns does Krobus use? It’s always good to be respectful! ^ + %item quest {{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest_Quest true %%%item id [610 [1]]+ %%[textcolor purple][#]Emily sends a Fruit Salad for Krobus”

“{{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest_Quest”: “ItemDelivery/A gift for Krobus/Emily made some food for Krobus and wants you to give it to Krobus./Give a Fruit Salad to Krobus./Krobus 610/0/0/0/false/Oh, Emily made this for me..?#$b#I suppose I’ll try it…$3#$b#...I’m sure Emily meant well.$2#$t {{ModId}}Emily_Letter_Quest”

“{{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest_Response”:”Hi! How’s Krobus doing? Did they like the Fruit Salad?$3#$b#Oh, they didn’t?$2#$b#That’s okay, I’m sure I can make something Krobus’ll like!$1#$e#Oh, and how should I refer to Krobus?#$b#%You explain to Emily that Shadowfolk only go by name, and that the use of pronouns is considered disrespectful, barring plurals.#$b#Got it, so just ‘Krobus’ then? Okay!”`

[verbal narwhal]

although this is the wording/syntax sued on tge wiki for gsq

[uncut viper]

the debug command doesnt know what a content patcher token is

[hallow prism]

it's why i said "all of them at once except the CP token"

[verbal narwhal]

ah

sorry

[hallow prism]

there will still be the question of if the CP token is valid, but you can test that later with patch parse

!patchparse

arg

betrayal of commands, again

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/troubleshooting.md#parse

anyway i should go to sleep so i will not be around

[verbal narwhal]

thank you very much Lumina for your patience with me!

sleep well!

[latent mauve]

I forget, is this correct to add a new Custom Field without nuking any old ones that may exist?

        "Action":"EditData",
        "Target":"Data/Objects",
        "TargetField": ["773", "CustomFields"],
        "Entries": {
            "FillingType": "{{Filling Type}}"
        }
    }```

[lucid mulch]

should be good

Just in case {{ModId}} prefix the custom field key but doesn't matter too much

[latent mauve]

Also, your theory was correct, the workaround of adding a Custom Field did fix it!

awesome, I'll correct the CustomField key and then the code should be all set.

[lucid mulch]

mainly using custom fields as one of the safest patches you can do on Objects that wont actually change any of the contents

[latent mauve]

I appreciate the help

[worldly wadi]

Hey, I wish I didn’t have to question this since it’s something that will spoil a bit of my mod, but is there any way of creating a homosexual NPC?

I’m planning to code a few lesbian and gay characters, but I know there’s people that are going to change their gender on the wizard’s tower, so I’m a bit stuck.

[brave fable]

oooh gotcha, i'll end up including them in the next update anyway for whoever wants them down the line. also congrats on your release 🥳 spotted it while perusing the latest pita projects

[uncut viper]

by default the characters care not what the players gender is

unless you mean specifically ONLY gay?

[latent mauve]

If you want to force them to only be romanceable with a specific gender, then you would likely need to set a condition to check the player's gender and change their CanBeRomanced accordingly.

[worldly wadi]

Yes.

[lucid iron]

you can make them only romancable depending on player gender at least

[worldly wadi]

But the wizard tower thingy

[uncut viper]

then yeah, use the PlayerGender token

[worldly wadi]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[lucid iron]

you need some other mod to make them divorce if player is no longer the right gender

BETAS has that now

[worldly wadi]

can I do it in a json file or do I have to use the C#

[uncut viper]

if they arent dating or married yet then it wont matter either

BETAS will let you do it in json

[latent mauve]

Also be prepared that if a player really likes that NPC, they will attempt to subvert it to be able to romance them anyway.

Better to just accept that going in

[uncut viper]

BETAS also has a TransGendered trigger (or GenderChanged as an alias if you wanna be boring about it)

[worldly wadi]

I'm planning to mod a cutscene of the NPC rejecting them if the farmer change their gender

Friendly ofc

This one?

[uncut viper]

yep

[worldly wadi]

Ok tysmmmmm

[lucid iron]

read up on TriggerActions on the wiki to see what this is about

[uncut viper]

Game State Queries as well

[sleek flint]

Kind of off-topic, but does anyone know how I can get my hand on this server's emojis?

Specifically this one

[uncut viper]

thats pretty off topic id say
you can open chromium dev tools in discord or just open it in browser and inspect element

[dusky sail]

tried thinking of this on my own but came up blank, is there an easy way to add or remove a context tag from a new item/object based on a config token

[lucid iron]

no

[dusky sail]

so id just have to basically create it twice based on either half of a when condition?

[pine elbow]

hey guys when would i know im good enough to start making a mod

[lucid iron]

it's more that once an object is created the context tags persist

are you ok with only new items getting your changes?

[oblique meadow]

You’re good enough now.

[uncut viper]

(BETAS could update old items)

[oblique meadow]

Stop wondering and do

[high garden]

I see that there is a rune factory music mod that exists. Would it be allowed to make an animal crossing music mod?

[uncut viper]

Allowed legally? No. Allowed because Nintendo probably won't care or notice? Sure. I'm not a lawyer this is not legal advice and for legal purposes is a joke etc etc

[brittle pasture]

more correctly, they're persisted in the run time object, not serialized, so restarting the game works to reset them

[dusky sail]

to give more context i was wondering if i could add the "not_museum_donateable" tag to some gems based on a config. right now i have it set up to change their type to basic when museum donations are turned off in the config, which works fine, and at this point it sounds like itd be easier to just make machine rules so they can still be put in the crystallarium even when their object type is set to basic

[brittle pasture]

I suppose you can tell your users to restart their game

[lucid iron]

i think config is fine yea

[oblique meadow]

Throw a console error:
“hey dumb dumbs! Don’t change settings mid game! Restart the game now”

[uncut viper]

players are not likely to change that often if more than once at all

[dusky sail]

i suppose i could just add a "restart game if you change the settings" to the description and then refer to that when people who cant read ask about it

in that case... is there a better way than just doing the edit data/objects entry twice?

[pine elbow]

hey guys thanks for this im starting to get confident

[uncut viper]

well you dont need to duplicate the whole patch

you can just add the item without the context tag and then do a smaller patch afterwards using Fields to just add the context tag

[dusky sail]

alright ok i think that makes sense

thank you!

[high garden]

Is there a resource on how to add a new characteristic to the Character creation menu? I will need it to open a dropdown and have the user select one option.

[lucid iron]

you will need some C# nonsense

[hot gale]

// Doors
  "HumanDoor": { "X": 3, "Y": 5 },
  "AnimalDoor": { "X": 8, "Y": 3, "Width": 1, "Height": 2 },

What am I missing here? This doesn't line up at all 🤣

[lucid mulch]

tile coordinates start at 0 not 1

[hot gale]

[verbal narwhal]

can I have two different mods share an updatekey?

different on a technical level, not on a user level

[lucid iron]

yea

[hot gale]

Yes

[verbal narwhal]

thanks!

[lucid iron]

@dapper crown hello i have a bug report for fish bot, i am a weird person who rebound the "use tool" button to E long ago (ironically because it was easier to fish), and fish bot is hardcoded to simulate C presses only so the autominigame part doesn't work. i think you can avoid this problem if you grab it from Game1.options.useToolButton instead

[lucid mulch]

TIL there is a keybind for using tools

[lucid iron]

It's called use tool but really it's just the primary button isn't it

[lucid mulch]

well I don't remember ever having pressed C, but used the mouse a lot

[brave fable]

c is a funny default, from classic games i would've expected ctrl or space

[lucid iron]

It makes 100% sense for me cus

I think this mode is for if u do arrow key to move no mouse

So they put all the do stuff buttons under wasd

[hard fern]

yeah, thats how i played it for the longest

[dusky sail]

means i can play one-handed while eating also

[hard fern]

cuz i didnt actually have a mouse at the time lmao

i was on a ✨laptop with trackpad ✨

[lucid iron]

Anyways i just put C back now that this mod means i don't need my funny rebind for fish

[urban patrol]

this is how i played stardew until 8 months ago lol

[obtuse wigeon]

I've always wondered why my tools get used randomly when I don't touvh my mouse, I just fat finger the use tool key

[latent mauve]

So the custom fields workaround to force the object description to recalculate the token does not work on the Vampire Ring, annoyingly.

It worked on the Life Elixir

[lucid iron]

Ring is weirder it doesn't inherit from Object

[latent mauve]

then I'mma just not worry about it

Time to screencap and make the mod page

I went through the effort of doing i18n on the mod at this point, which is why I got sidetracked for an hour xD

[oblique meadow]

Chu is shiny!

[lucid iron]

terrible times

[drowsy pewter]

waking up and looking at mod showcase every morning

is it too late to close pandoras box?

[oblique meadow]

The burrito has been unrolled

[drowsy pewter]

we gotta wrap this up

[dusky sail]

🥁 🥁 📀

[high garden]

For creating a new object using SMAPI, do I use ContentPatcher to add the image and json? And then create a ModEntry.cs to use JsonAssetsAPI to do stuff to it?

[vernal crest]

Don't use JA, it's deprecated

Are you using C# because you want to?

[high garden]

I want to create a new item that has custom logic and features, like opening up a menu

[latent mauve]

is there a debug command to take damage? I didn't find one earlier but I may have overlooked it

[brave fable]

I think it's hurtme

[vernal crest]

Ah, then you can do it all in C# but if you want to use CP to make the object and then use C# to add the functionality that might be easier

[brave fable]

maybe confusing it with loc though which also has one

[vernal crest]

But you don't need Json Assets for anything

[brave fable]

out of interest, where'd you get the idea that you need JA?

[high garden]

older reddit posts

[brave fable]

say no more 😌

[vernal crest]

Unfortunately you can't really rely on anything older than April 2024 for Stardew because 1.6 really changed a lot

[brave fable]

opening a menu is pretty simple, just need to add a button pressed event handler that checks for your item ID, but also spacecore might have a framework feature for arbitrary method calls on item used

[obtuse wigeon]

(1.6 was in april 24? it has not been out for long at all!)

[tender agate]

came out mid March but I say April to be safe and use less words

[obtuse wigeon]

here was me thinking it's been a thing for at least 2 years, certainly helps me figure out which mods are compatible based off date that for sure

[vernal crest]

Yeah, I say April in case people see early March stuff and think it's 1.6

[brave fable]

hm, or maybe not

[urban patrol]

spacecore def does have a trigger action on item used, but i'm not sure if it could open a menu

[brave fable]

hi @drowsy pewter how did you inspect a tortilla when held and does it allow for non-image results (arbitrary methods)

[brave fable]

oh is that so, i went up and down the page twice looking for something like that. well there's nothing stopping you from registering a new trigger action with the behaviour you need

[drowsy pewter]

meep + spacecore onitemused and its only for inages

the meep part hooks into spacecores itemused trigger afaik to make the image menu

so hypothetically youv can do whatever

[urban patrol]

it's hiding

[latent mauve]

It is done.

[lucid iron]

    CSC : error CS1705: Assembly 'MonoGame.Framework' with identity 'MonoGame.Framework, Version=3.8.0.1641, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' uses 'System.Runtime, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' which has a higher version than referenced assembly 'System.Runtime' with identity 'System.Runtime, Version=5.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a'
    CSC : error CS1705: Assembly 'StardewModdingAPI' with identity 'StardewModdingAPI, Version=4.3.3.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' uses 'System.Runtime, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' which has a higher version than referenced assembly 'System.Runtime' with identity 'System.Runtime, Version=5.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a'
    CSC : error CS1705: Assembly 'Stardew Valley' with identity 'Stardew Valley, Version=1.7.0.25244, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' uses 'System.Runtime, Version=6.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a' which has a higher version than referenced assembly 'System.Runtime' with identity 'System.Runtime, Version=5.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b03f5f7f11d50a3a'

how can i fix this error

nvm i dum and forgor this mod hasn't been built since 1.5

[high garden]

Is this a correct ContentPatch logic? How does the new object know to take its image from the loaded magicseed.png?

{
  "Format": "2.8.0",
  "Changes": [
    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/Objects",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick": {
          "Name": "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick",
          "DisplayName": "Pufferchick",
          "Description": "An example object.",
          "Type": "Seeds",
          "Category": -74,
          "Price": 1200,
          "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects"
        }
      }
    },
    {
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects",
      "FromFile": "assets/magicseed.png"
    }
  ]
}

[lucid iron]

it knows cus u said "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects"

and then u did a "Action": "Load", to "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects",

[high garden]

if my Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects has a lot of image files associated with many different new items, how does it know that Pufferchick should be associated with the magicseed.png?

[lucid iron]

then u need to give a sprite index

[high garden]

ohh ok ty

[uncut viper]

to be clear though, you cannot put different .png files to the same Target

Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects is one picture. it is not a folder full of pictures

[autumn tide]

hey! decided I'd make a super basic mod to make the raccoons gay, I'm testing it rn and I got this message from SMAPI:
[Content Patcher] Could not load content pack 'TURN THE FRICKING RACCOONS GAY': content pack doesn't specify the required Format field..
Not sure what I should do lol, here's my code:
{ "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Strings/1_6_Strings", "Entries": { "Raccoon_interim_1": "Raccoon: Now, maybe I find a husband...", "Raccoon_intro_1": "Raccoon: Hungry... need fruit...", "Raccoon_interim_2": "Raccoon: Now, we start a family...", "Raccoon_interim_3": "Raccoon: Now we can grow the family bigger...", "Raccoon_interim_4": "Raccoon: You're a good friend, bobo. Now we can find another...", "Raccoon_intro_4": "Raccoon: Psst... bobo. I need a gift for the mister.", "Raccoon_interim_5": "Raccoon: We're happy for now, bobo.....", } }

[uncut viper]

this is just a patch. this isnt a content patcher json

[autumn tide]

..i got no clue lol, I just sorta mimicked what I saw other people do

[uncut viper]

well, i would try looking at the content patcher documentation first instead

you need a format field and patches must go inside a changes list

[autumn tide]

okay

OHH I got it! ty :)

[high garden]

My mod needs both ContentPatcher and SMAPI C# file. I get this error

Which one should I keep? And is my directory structure OK?

[uncut viper]

they must be two separate mods

i.e. they both need their own folder

those two folders can then live inside a parent folder together

the ModBuildConfig also has settings you can alter to bundle a content pack with it

[latent mauve]

You can put them both in an enclosing folder together to zip and upload, but you need your C# mod and the CP mod in their own folders.

[uncut viper]

this also means they need separate UniqueIDs

[high garden]

ok if I put them in separate folders with their own manifest.json, and then use settings to bundle them, will the users download it as one mod?

[uncut viper]

if you upload it as one mod with two folders in it, sure

[high garden]

ok ty

[dapper crown]

I'll look into it, not sure what my original reasoning for that was but I think it had to do with deliberately avoiding lmb and whatever button it was on the controller

[lucid iron]

i think that's fine, and you can get the keyboard tool use binding with Game1.options.useToolButton too

[dapper crown]

Im actually kinda surprised no one else has run into this

[obtuse wigeon]

You may have another bug incoming too, fishbot seems to not fish, the UI message pops up and the automations are enabled, but the rod being used, fish being hooked, and minigame, all don't work, I'm just giving it some final test to see if a game reload and a new config fixes it

[lucid iron]

this is probably why

[obtuse wigeon]

that's what I'm thinking but I haven't actually changed the keybind yet

[dapper crown]

If its not that - It can have a stuck input sometimes, manually clicking or pressing the button might fix it

[lucid iron]

anyways its a minor bug so no rush

[obtuse wigeon]

Nevermind, my report is null and void, restart and fresh config has fixed it, I did think it was a stuck input as I've had that happen before but smashing many buttons didn't fix it, thank fully it works again now

[dapper crown]

Ight, let me know if you do manage to get a repro

[dapper crown]

Idk if i have to be this careful about it but that should work right

Well ill test it tmr, its too late :')

[verbal narwhal]

https://github.com/sophiesalacia/StardewMods/blob/ee5f983bb5640ec6ff26339b71da931305e92df4/Calcifer/Features/FurnitureActions.cs

am I seeing/understanding this correctly that with calcifer furnitureactions are only triggered from one side?

[lucid iron]

that seems incorrect

[verbal narwhal]

ah but is this from the game then?

to allow interactions with furniture only from frontfacing sides?

[obtuse wigeon]

Actions should occur reguardless of direction in vanilla surely? (I'm assuming the player sitting on a chair is an action and the furniture catalogue are furniture themselves with an OpenShop action)

[verbal narwhal]

or maybe it is decor that can only be interacted with from one side

ah it is because calcifer calls interactions with who.Tile
whereas my interaction calls for tank.Tile

and I used calcifer to place the tank tiles

[tender agate]

how do you get the farmer's level in farmer

or another skill

[brave fable]

in C#, or elsewhere?

[tender agate]

c#

[brave fable]

GetSkillLevel or GetUnmodifiedSkillLevel to ignore buffs

[tender agate]

thanks!

[brave fable]

you can provide the int index param to each method with the static int skill members on Farmer, e.g. const int farmingSkill = 0

[unique tusk]

I'm going insane why won't my custom NPC show up in game????
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/5c4f1a06358948bfb85572cabae2f68a

[tender agate]

are those trailing commas there fine?

[drowsy pewter]

CP corrects any trailing commas

[lucid mulch]

smapi/cp dont care about the trailing commas

[tender agate]

oh cool of that

[lucid mulch]

those loads don't look corret though, everything a bunch are all trying to provide a load for Characters/Blue.Jestar_ShadowMilkCookie and based on the fromfile a few look very wrong

[hard fern]

I was about to say

Im confused about the "dispositions"

And the gift tastes

[unique tusk]

I made seperate json files for them

and put them in a folder called "data"

[hard fern]

But why are they being loaded? To that same target

[uncut viper]

are you aware that Characters/Blue.Jestar[...] is not referring to a folder of assets/data/patches for your character?

that Target is specifically and only for your characters overworld sprites

[unique tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

Wait but when I didn't have a target the code kept appearing red saying I had to set a target???

[hard fern]

Cuz you do

[uncut viper]

well yes, you need a Target to load something to it

you cant load into nothing

you are also probably confusing Load with Include

are you following the NPC guide?

[unique tusk]

I was but they weren't rly working ;v;

[uncut viper]

well this doesnt work either, so i would give the NPC guide another read now knowing that the Target is of critical importance and cant be changed willy nilly

I only asked because the splitting of your files and their names seemed like how the guide was probably directing you to

[unique tusk]

Do you have a recommended guide? :o

[uncut viper]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[uncut viper]

first bullet point

[hot gale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/280604217209651201/1414459670889889893/OpenWorld_9-8-2025_14207778.png?ex=68bfa5b8&is=68be5438&hm=c9cdae217059bb50cbe975627c277a1bbc767d3ac340f68fdf9c8f79f502a352&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1037&height=914

Filling this town up haha

[verbal narwhal]

how do I put include into the csproj to include another folder with a different mod (only different on a technical level, but the overall mod needs both)?

[vernal crest]

Bundling: https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/1cf2de01600d4a6e5fd98b9f2f2f87224246bb4a/docs/technical/mod-package.md#bundled-content-packs

[urban patrol]

when doing day/night tiles that are rotated, do i include the H?

[high garden]

Is this the correct code to create a new item and add it to Pierre's shop?

{
  "Format": "2.8.0",
  "Changes": [
    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/Objects",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick": {
          "Name": "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick",
          "DisplayName": "Pufferchick",
          "Description": "An example object.",
          "Type": "Seeds",
          "Category": -74,
          "Price": 1200,
          "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects"
        }
      }
    },
    {
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects",
      "FromFile": "assets/magicseed.png"
    },
    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/Shops",
      "Entries": {
        "SeedShop": {
          "Items": {
            "PineapplesEverywhere_Pufferchick": {
              "Id": "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick",
              "Price": 1200,
              "AvailableStock": 1
            }
          }
        }
      }
    }
  ]
}

[vernal crest]

No, that's going to overwrite the entirety of SeedShop

[dusky sail]

I thiiiiiiiink right now the second half of this is making it so the only item pierre sells is pufferchicks

Youre on the right track though

[vernal crest]

{
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Shops",
            "TargetField": [ "SeedShop", "Items" ],
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick": {
                    "Id": "{{ModId}}_Pufferchick",
                    "ItemId": "(O){{ModId}}_Pufferchick",
                    "Price": 1200,
                    "AvailableStock": 1
                }
            },
}

[high garden]

ohh ok ty

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm trying to make a bit better of a testing environment for making my mods, the goal is to use shortcuts (.lnk files) to the mods so I don't have to have multiple copies of the same framework mods, I know it's possible for SMAPI to read these as the actual files because that's how Stardrop does it, however I don't seem to be able to do it, SMAPI just creates a new folder instead of using the shortcut.

In the image, I want SMAPI to use the top folder shortcut, but instead it creates the folder below and uses that instead

[vernal crest]

(Are you absolutely certain that this doesn't work for you?)

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh I didn't know about the difference between Hardlinks and Symlinks, evidently I'm using the wrong one given the folder properties window looks different

I shall give it a try and see if it fixes it, if it doesn't I may be back here soon

Ahh okay it looks like Hardlinks are only for files and not for folders

[vernal crest]

I use symlinks only, whether for files or folders

[obtuse wigeon]

Given my Mods and Stardew installation are on different drive, hard links also wouldn't work

[golden basin]

im making a item bag for custom items and im wondering if id be able to assign a different bag icon?

[obtuse wigeon]

Hmm that's odd why Smapi isn't recognising the symlink and making a new folder, seems I may need to play around a bit deeper into it

[golden basin]

im looking at the guide and isnt not telling me much

[obtuse wigeon]

Is this for the item bags mod? (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/5382)

[golden basin]

yeah

im just not understanding the guide much

[obtuse wigeon]

the files which the icons can come from are hardcoded unfortunatly

[golden basin]

i had a feeling it was that sucks

[vernal crest]

Yours is listed as a shortcut, but mine isn't (I created the disabled folder shortcut to double check, it's not normally there)

[obtuse wigeon]

I does a tad, but there are a few empty spots on the spring objects and other available images so you could make a content pack to editimage onto the SpringObjects and then use that

[golden basin]

compact would be hellish though if anyone uses the same spot so i rather not do that

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh? that's even more interesting? hmm okay I think I know what the issue may be then, thank you for your help

Ye compat is the issue with that, I too chose not to go that route due to that too

[vernal crest]

Yeah if you're going to edit a vanilla tilesheet like that I'd pick debris. Less likely to have other mods pick the same spot imo

(Just extend the sheet down)

The sheet being debris, not springobjects

[obtuse wigeon]

I didn't think of extending it down, that is a much better solution than I thought

[golden basin]

its okay

[oblique meadow]

I have a general question I’ve never considered…What is the overall impact of animated tiles on performance? Is it minimal? Or should I watch the overall use?

[hard fern]

🤔 hmm i don't think it cases too much issue so long as like. Not every single tile on a map is trying to play animations?

[obtuse wigeon]

I seem to be unable to make the symlinks correctly, they just end up cyclical reguardless of the file I right click > Pink Link Source, do you just use Drop As... > Symbolic link or another link type?

[obtuse wigeon]

given vanilla maps use MANY animated tiles in the Outdoors tilesheet I'm going to say theres barely any noticable difference if at all

[lucid iron]

It's not something you should worry about

[oblique meadow]

Haha. Figured I should worry enough to ask if I should worry😛 good to know

[vernal crest]

Yeah just drop as symbolic link and then I get the UAC asking if I want to approve it. Maybe your security settings are so strict as to always deny instead of asking?

Actually, I don't know what you mean by they end up cyclical lol

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't even get a UAC prompt at all, I don't think I have very strict security, any request is allowed, I just have to approve it first, also by cyclical I mean it leads to itself like this

 ---> IOException: The name of the file cannot be resolved by the system. : 'S:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\ModTesting\FashionSense Packs\FashionSense\FashionSense\FashionSense\FashionSense\

[lucid iron]

-# year of the linux desktop just ln -s

[obtuse wigeon]

I really don't know why it's doing this unless it could not be copying the link source properly, but this is getting dangerously into the off topic area, I shall keep messing around with it

[vernal crest]

What's the filepath for the file you're trying to symlink? (I'd try with a file first rather than folder)

[obtuse wigeon]

Ye I'm 100% switching over to linux when my new PC bits arrive, I am sick of windows so much

[vernal crest]

(We can switch to #programmers-off-topic if you want to)

[obtuse wigeon]

Probably best ngl

[hot gale]

 {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/AudioChanges",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_Music": {
          "ID": "{{ModId}}_Music",
          "Category": "Music",
          "FilePaths": [
            "{{AbsoluteFilePath: assets/Audio/{{season}}_countryside.ogg}}"
          ],
          "StreamedVorbis": true,
          "Looped": true
        }
      }
    },

I am trying to load a specific song to play in mayor's town according to the season - is this a proper format to do so?

I guess I am asking moreso if having {{season}} inside of the {{AbsoluteFilePath: .. countryside.ogg}} breaks anything

Also been a handful of months since I worked with Content Patcher.. {{season}} is how to load separate files for each season right? :p lol

[vernal crest]

Have never tried the season token inside absolute file path but in a FromFile situation it will grab the appropriately named file, yes

[brittle pasture]

from my understanding of the audiochanges asset it’s not recommended to use tokens for them, and you should load every track you want manually

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah, it doesn't update until you restart the game or something

[hot gale]

Ooo I see

So I should have multiple entries with like when: season?

[brittle pasture]

that’s just tokens under a different skin

basically no conditional loads, write out spring, summer, fall, winter directly

[vernal crest]

Multiple entries, no condition, just give them different IDs

[hot gale]

Ahh doy, thank you

Much appreciated

[drowsy pewter]

cant you add audio into the location data conditionally

as in load all the four season files and put them all in location data

rather than change the same audio file

[vernal crest]

That is how he is going to have to do it

[brittle pasture]

yeah that’s what I would suggest afterwards

[uncut viper]

whats the issue with audio and tokens/conditional loads?

at least in this season case it should be fine, no?

i understand that a change isnt undone when a patch "unloads"

[uncut viper]

yeah. so season is completely fine

[drowsy pewter]

i also thought so in this case aside from the obvious of preferring to use the intended location data fields

[uncut viper]

because when e.g. "spring.ogg" unloads its just patched over with "summer.ogg"

[vernal crest]

Battle of the forwarded quotes

[uncut viper]

i think the bigger issue is AudioChanges are fuckin expensive to do

[vernal crest]

And then Atra says changes can happen but they are slow...whatever that means lol

[uncut viper]

presumably the same thing i mean when i say theyre expensive

[vernal crest]

Oh, I took it to mean delayed

In conclusion: that's like saying "what are birds?". We just don't know /j

[uncut viper]

its a computationally expensive edit

[vernal crest]

Yes sorry I followed that you were saying they are a performance hit. I meant I took Atra's "slow" to mean delayed but you're right that they could've meant expensive.

[uncut viper]

theres nothin inherently different about Data/AudioChanges as an asset as far as CP's update rate stuff is concerned

[lucid mulch]

One issue is (without Speedy Solutions) a mod wanting to do this with other mods using audio is now a minute of your life gone during season transition

[uncut viper]

that is why i said the computational expense is a bigger issue yes

[lucid mulch]

But correct, CP and even to a a lesser extent SMAPI treat AudioChanges as a perfectly normal asset, its vanilla that treats it very differently because its not the source of truth, but a retain mode mechanism to mutate the soundbank(s) which no other asset does

[uncut viper]

to be clear when i asked "whats the issue" i was more meaning the technical "how is it broken?" whats-the-issue question

which it isnt broken, just slow

[lucid mulch]

as long as the conditional edits keep it loaded and keep id and maybe category? the same, edits to files and some other stuff is probably fine just inpractical

[hot gale]

So what would be my best method 😅

[vital lotus]

@uncut viper may I ask for triggers in BETAS? itempickedup (forage and shells) and itempulledup, (wood chopped and monster drop).

[uncut viper]

ItemForaged possibly, generic itempickup probably not as im wary about the idea of spamming trigger actions god knows how many times per second if someone like, explodes a tree farm

[brave fable]

why am i doing this to myself old kimono - new kimono - yukata to compare

haha i get to update 128x2x10 sprites ((((((((

[brittle pasture]

they kinda look like noodles bundles

you have my eternal respect for being one of the remaining modders to make CP clothing

[brave fable]

i did actually download fashion sense today for the first time to see if i could make jackets with big sleeves to go with the yukata

looked at the fs raincoat and called it quits after trying to fenangle the hand mirror

[hard fern]

I have to draw Stuff later

(it's clothes)

[brave fable]

if it were done just a little differently i might be super into fs but somehow i just don't feel it

[hard fern]

Is it the fact that ur not actually wearing clothes

[brave fable]

i really don't know what i'd have done differently either, it's a really impressive framework

maybe that (and whatever else)

[brittle pasture]

heck most users find the fact that the clothing aren’t items actually a plus

[hard fern]

😔 im one of the few then who actually like having Clothing

[brave fable]

i'm guessing it's probably a 50-50 split, i like collecting clothes ingame

[uncut viper]

i dont use FS bc i like having the normal clothing

[brave fable]

but i do feel a lot of mod authors gravitate to fs because it's a very accessible way of making oversized or high-def clothing sprites

vanilla is very restrictive for most things

[hot gale]

There is a real lack of decent male clothing for FS, at least there was last time I checked. I did end up keeping it for all the accesories and animated clothes like flowing scarves and stuff

[brave fable]

i mean i do like solving the sudoku puzzle of drawing 8x8x4 shirts but also if i could just make some big sleeves right about now

[brittle pasture]

there’s a lack of male clothing in general, if anything CP will be worse

[brave fable]

eh menswear is a dead end irl, it's no surprise not many people are bothered to try and find creative ways of drawing a shirt and pants

vanilla has a surprising amount of pants given the limitations

[brittle pasture]

we clearly need to popularize cloaks and robes again

[hard fern]

Yeah, irl unless you're looking for things with cool patterns it's pretty boring. (And on a pixel scale it's kinda impossible to make detailed clothing patterns for the farmer, at least vanilla sized)

[brave fable]

well you've got your one fs pack for that already lol

mm most common patterns are actually impossible with the sprite size available, you get plain shirts, shirt designs, or nonstandard top shapes

and boy are there not many nonstandard shirts to make

[hard fern]

How am i gonna draw a shirt with ruffles 😔

[brave fable]

give it up, astarion lover

or austin powers fan. i don't judge

[hard fern]

i dont even know who that is

Ive never played beg

... Something tells me that's not the right acronym

[brave fable]

baldur's evil gate

[uncut viper]

baldurs egate

[hard fern]

That gate is evil 😞

Is it a three instead? Bg³

[uncut viper]

BG3 yaya

[brave fable]

wonder if i should make a legacy sprites option for the updated kimono. probably not

[brittle pasture]

he’s the evil pale twink the tumblr girlies and gaylies salivate over

[hot gale]

I wish I had the patience and/or skill to make art stuff

[hard fern]

Girlies and gaylies...

[brave fable]

i mean i hate your message but i can't disagree with it

[drowsy pewter]

i want to say id fuck with that but its too hot here

[brittle pasture]

I have an agenda against astarion but that’s only because he’s somehow the only companion that isn’t 100% in love with me (platonically or romantically) by the ending

[brave fable]

funny that we have left-facing shirts but not left-facing pants.

i have an agenda against him but he was acting weird in camp so he had to be turned into soup

[uncut viper]

im a tumblr girlie and he is my least favourite character

[drowsy pewter]

we should extend.the length of the pants spritesheet by 50% to add assymmetrical sprites

[brave fable]

ah yes another 64 sprites on the sheet

in the theme of get glam and get dressed, i bequeath thee get rekt

[hard fern]

I want to draw my one legged pants with a long boot on the other side

But i was robbed

[dusky sail]

The good news is you can still draw this. Just not as the sdv farmer

[brave fable]

shirts are skill, pants are patience

you'd think a nice big fistful-of-dollars-style poncho for fs would've been made by now

for journey of the prairie king experts

[uncut viper]

there are journey of the prairie king experts?

[hard fern]

People who got fectors challenge legit, i assume

[brave fable]

we're a very exclusive club.

[uncut viper]

im a junimo kart girlie

[brave fable]

we will never meet in the arcade on a warm summers night.

[uncut viper]

well ofc not bc ill have won my own arcade machine by the end of spring

so ill be playing it at home

[dusky sail]

Im just as impressed about getting the skull key that early as i am about actually beating junimo kart

[hard fern]

Im so bad at junimo kart

Im never beating that thing 😔

[brave fable]

much like fashion sense, i have tried junimo kart exactly once

[uncut viper]

i need a mod to make it more difficult

[brave fable]

one time more than it took for me to know i do not do that

[uncut viper]

ive considered it briefly once but then i looked at its code and decided it wasnt for me

[vernal crest]

I have also tried junimo kart once. I couldn't get past the second jump

[dusty scarab]

is there anyone around who could send a few mods to the Showcase for me?

[lucid mulch]

Define legit?

[hard fern]

Like not installing any mods to make it way easier/not take dmg

[lucid mulch]

I got fector's challenge on 1.6 modding alpha jokingly testing if steam achievements still worked (they did)

I cant do junimo kart, but I can do prairie king

[hard fern]

Can you make custom buffs without C# or no? I was wondering if there's a way to usedrink perfume and give the player a bonus on friendship bc they smell good

[lucid mulch]

not unless a framework has exposed it, data driven buffs can only do what vanilla does

[hard fern]

😔

[brave fable]

it was just meant to be a recolour. a small touchup. why must i redraw every individual kimono pant

why does pants always involve the seven stages of grief

[dusky sail]

You are doing a great service to the stardew modding community though

[hard fern]

What are the two extra stages of grief when pants are involved

[brave fable]

1. you put your left leg in
2. you put your left leg out
3. in
4. out
5. in
6. out
7. acceptance

[hard fern]

Pan(t)ic and Uh.... Insert pants joke

Ok that's better than whatever i came up with

[hushed scroll]

This absolutely sent me into space

[uncut viper]

if nothin else you can just give them the same buff the statue of blessings gives for conversational friendship bonus, i think?

[hard fern]

Hmm.. thonk

[waxen fox]

what is a content.json with more than one action supposed to look like? i dont know how theyre meant to be formatted and i keep getting errors for line 9

[dusty scarab]

looks like this. all your Actions need to be in their own set of curly brackets inside the Changes square bracket, and not inside of each other

[brave fable]

example here:
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-load.md#examples

as simple as it gets ☀️

[waxen fox]

i think i was missing the comma after the }, thanks!

[dusty scarab]

no problem, good luck :D

[unique tusk]

Hm I think I'm finally/slowly understanding some of the coding language like: load/include, log names, brackets, and from file but I'm struggling to understand targets and no tutorials are really explaining them? Could someone summarize what targets are and what they do? :0

[verbal narwhal]

target is the name that can get called

[brave fable]

to beat the pedantic programmers to the punch, i'll be the first to say that Target isn't exactly a coding language feature (i.e. JSON script), instead it's a Content Patcher feature

[gray bear]

so i know Airyn has a mod that makes the moon appear every night in the end screen but i can't very well ask him and reading the code doesn't connect the dots. do i just add it somehow to the sky that appears at night?

[brave fable]

every asset ingame has a unique name, such as Characters/Pierre for pierre's overworld sprite, or Data/Furniture for the dictionary of furniture item names to their flatpacked data

[vital lotus]

Ur sorta can with BETAS. Make custom buff without power up. Just give description. Then make actiontrigger with ongiftfgiven trigger that give additional friendship when the buff is active

[brave fable]

you use Target to set the name of the asset of your change/action is targeting

[dusky sail]

Why can't you ask him? /gen

[brave fable]

(more broadly, the only thing you mentioned in your question that's actually a coding language/JSON script feature is brackets hahah, the rest is content patcher)

[drowsy pewter]

why dont you recommend people use his mod in conjunction instead

[dusky sail]

True also

[gray bear]

his mod uses custom assets, so i'd need to like, ask him, hence my issue

i can't disclose why i can't, sorry

[dusky sail]

Thats ok!

[unique tusk]

So it's sorta like log name :o

[ornate locust]

that doesn't make me uncurious, but recommending people using that mod with yours would work

[brave fable]

LogName is just some text describing your change, it's only visible in the log

[vernal crest]

Log name is just a descriptive name for your patch

It doesn't affect the game in the slightest

[brave fable]

Target is a functional (and required) field, set to the exact full name of the asset you're targeting (and invalidating)

[gray bear]

they wouldn't be compatible

[ornate locust]

ohh compatibility thing

[hallow prism]

i mean, i'm not sure what you're asking, that someone is explaining how airyn's mod is working to you? so you can copy it?

[unique tusk]

OH WAIT I THINK I GET IT? It's like if I'm adding a custom NPC it has to target smth in the base game? And like add it to that coding part of the base game? Praying I understood

[verbal narwhal]

first the GoldenBall.png gets loaded as GoldenBall in my content.json
then the loaded asset as GoldenBall can called in my objects.json as the texture (no need to split it up in different jsons)

[gray bear]

oh no! just like, how one would approach making the moon appear. i don't wanna copy anything. i'll just like, look at the assets again

sorry guys

[verbal narwhal]

hi Lumina, just quick letting you know I got everything to work for my silly frogs and tadpoles

[hallow prism]

glad to hear! good new is that thanks to you the issue with the GSQ will be fixed in 1.7

[hallow prism]

ok so you basically wants to copy the concept of the mod airyn did but you want someone else providing the solution?

i can't help with that since i have no idea what a good approach would be, but i find it is a bit of grey territory to want to emulate the exact feature of another mod while refusing to communicate with the author. I hope there will be at least proper credits for the inspiration

[gray bear]

i, just want the moon to appear every night in the sky. i don't think that's copying the concept? but i'll drop it, ok

point taken

[sleek flint]

Can someone help me? I have been looking for 15 mins and can't find the object spritesheet, I only found Object_2.

[gray bear]

maps/springobjects.png

[ornate locust]

IT'S WHAT TIME?

ah hell I got distracted eventing

[gray bear]

this is not optimal... goddamn moon face being so small

[brave fable]

close, but a little different - to use NPCs as an example, whenever the game creates an NPC it'll ask for a bunch of assets by name based on the character's name. so for example, for some character named Benjamin the game will ask for assets with the asset name of Characters/Benjamin, Portraits/Benjamin, Strings/Schedules/Benjamin, and so on.

just like characters, every asset has a name, and when you give a Target value in your patch, you're just naming the asset you want to change. sometimes you'll find the game expects certain assets to be named in a certain way, just like with our NPC example here, but you'll often also find some mods loading new assets with whatever asset name they like, such as Mods/blueberry.LoveOfCooking/Data

[sleek flint]

It's tortilla time.

[ornate locust]

nearly 4 am my time jfc

[sleek flint]

It least it's symmetrical lol.

[gray bear]

i cut off part of his mustache

this is a tortila crime

[brave fable]

also, the game doesn't see any difference between base game assets and custom assets - as far as it's concerned, content is content. the only difference is that it's already provided its own assets for all the cases it needs, such as portraits for every NPC, events for most locations, data files for every model needed, etc

[gray bear]

hmm that should work, maybe i have the wrong coords

[unique tusk]

Hmm noted noted, I shall stew on this and try out some different things >:)

Thank you for helping me!!!

[gray bear]

no they're correct, does the game use even less of the game than i thought? oof

i have made it worse

oh wait

yeah it does cut off. time to downsize mustache again

[wooden burrow]

DMs open

[iron ridge]

For what?

[verbal narwhal]

…Making a slightly cuter cacti mod would be relatively simple as a content pack, right?

[gray bear]

if ur just editing items in the game yes

[verbal narwhal]

Nice!

[hard fern]

hmmm hmmm sounds interesting, if not maybe a little complicated 😅 but i'll figure it out

[hallow prism]

if you mean the random cacti at the desert festival you may have to deal with the specificity of their combined assets

but the content patcher part would be simple

it's more the align art part that may be annoying depending of the goal

[verbal narwhal]

And with AT randomized textures when placed is user - end toggleable and then for whole categories, right?
I tried making it with Manual Variations and Chance Weight 0.35 for all while having it disabled in my settings and it stayed the same. Because I imagine most people have that disabled, right?

[verbal narwhal]

This sounds a bit intimidating but this will be a challenge for future me

[hallow prism]

i'm not sure what you ask about AT, but i have to go soon, so hopefully someone else will know!

[verbal narwhal]

Don’t worry, I will try things out a bit more, but I think you can enable/disable random textures for categories (like furniture, crops, entities) alone and if enabled, then you can enable/disable it for specific AT packs but not the other way around: having it disabled but having an exception AT pack

[drowsy pewter]

Can anyone recommend a lightweight program for snipping gifs for mod previews? I simply dont know how to find one that doesnt put like watermarks everywhere

[brave fable]

sharex ✨

it's a desktop multitool. colour picker, screenshots, recording, everything

though these days i just use snipping tool for everything but recording

[drowsy pewter]

ouh color picker sounds useful too

you the goat

[brave fable]

sharex the goat

a fine 10 seconds spent looking away from pants

[drowsy pewter]

@blissful panther I was kicking myself for saving the day with all debug cooking learned so I couldnt test my recipe obtain methods; then remembered i happen to have that little mod you wrote to clear all known recipes

you the goat DH

[drowsy pewter]

I think we may need to have an intervention

[hard fern]

😔 blueberry step away from the pants

[brave fable]

in this good house we make shit pants iinto good pants

hmm maybe i remove the side seam. ruining my candle/iced cake look

[gray bear]

blueberry are u ok

[dusky sail]

I think the side seam is part of what sells it as a kimono personally

Also yeah this seems like a lot of work. Take breaks!!

[sleek flint]

Is there a way to have a weapon with a different swinging sprite (not the animation itself, the item being held in the animation) than the item sprite?

In JSON. Doesn't have to be CP but must be in JSON.

[unique tusk]

Okayyy I got basically everything for my custom NPC working finally EXCEPT the dialogue and I'm not sure what I did wrong
I'm following this tutorial: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Dialogue

Here's my content & dialogue: (RESENDING) / https://smapi.io/json/none/6980de867a71469f9802d2fbeea312f7

[sleek flint]

Or a way to launch a projectile weapon without a swinging animation, but the first one is preferred.

[unique tusk]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7f15a692bf05448bad7945e5f53c1877

[lucid mulch]

and dialogue.json?

[vernal crest]

As it says, you don't have a Changes field in your dialogue file

You've formatted it like a vanilla one, but you need to make it an EditData patch inside a Changes block

[unique tusk]

OOOHHH

[sleek flint]

It's supposed to look like this with a format and changes field.

{
    "Format": "2.7.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "{{ModId}}/ShoppingScreen",
            "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png",
            "Update": "OnTimeChange"
        },
    ]
}

[lucid mulch]

if this was the dialogue.json then you probably wanted a load rather than include as it contains contents not patches

[vernal crest]

This is much easier to do if you are looking at an existing NPC mod while you follow along. I recommend Jorts and Jean or Wren since Tia made them

(But don't Load the dialogue file because when you switch to i18n you'd have to change it to an EditData patch anyway)

[shut edge]

Posting from work so I can't research much. Is there a simple way to attach a buff to an equippable accessory?

[vernal crest]

OnItemEquipped trigger from spacecore

[shut edge]

Ah nice thanks

[vernal crest]

Plenty of examples here in this channel if you search for onitemequipped, plus possibly an example in the spacecore docs too

[shut edge]

I probably was told that months ago but brains

[unique tusk]

Is this better? 🤔

[vernal crest]

Nope, now you're not doing anything at all because you have no Action field

[unique tusk]

[lucid mulch]

and the Dialogue needs Characters/ prefix as well iirc

[vernal crest]

Just leave that bit as it was and change your dialogue.json to include an EditData patch

Seriously, just go copy another NPC's dialogue.json and then paste your keys and Target into it

[shut edge]

Think I might do an update for toast of the town soon

I know at least one bug, have a feature I wanna do, and maybe some more toasts

[unique tusk]

Pathetically presents another attempt

[vernal crest]

Nice

[vernal crest]

Please...just do as I said instead of guessing

[shut edge]

If anyone has cool toast ideas lemme know

[sleek flint]

Sorry if I am being annoying, but does no one know how? Or is it just not possible.

[vernal crest]

(That Nice was to you cryomancer)

[shut edge]

Thanks

[vernal crest]

I'd be very surprised if it was possible but your best hope would probably be looking through spacecore or checking erinthe's mods

[sleek flint]

Who is erinthe? Could you give me a link?

[shut edge]

I've been trying to work on an update for livestock dinos but I been kinda road locked by art. I should probably start browsing commission options tbh

[unique tusk]

Sorry following instructions and learning is difficult due to learning disabilities, I didn't mean to make you feel unheard ;v;

[vernal crest]

aedenthorn. https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/aedenthorn?gameId=1303

[vernal crest]

It's okay, I just don't want you to waste your time guessing when looking at an example from another mod will show you the right thing to do straight away

[sleek flint]

Oh I didn't know that was their name.

Well, thanks aba

[brave fable]

i don't take breaks. i take deep breaths 😌

[vernal crest]

Understandable, she just mentioned here the other day she's back to going by erinthe (or has started? IDK) now. I don't know if you'll find anything but given her C# shenanigans it's worth a look.

[shut edge]

Stardew community is great because most people are happy to let you lift examples from their stuff

That's how I make all mine lmao

[dusky sail]

If i stare at the code of talented mod authors for long enough then eventually maybe ill absorb some of their power 🙏

[shut edge]

Literally yes

[vernal crest]

My first NPC was first written by literally making a copy of Jorts and Jean and working my way through each of the files to change all the Targets to my NPC

By the time I'd finished that, I understood enough to start making changes to make her my own. Now my json looks incredibly different to Tia's lol

[unique tusk]

Do I,,, need strings???

[dusky sail]

Any time im stuck and dont know how to do something i wanna do my first action is to try to think of an existing mod that does it and then i poke around in the files

Ive actually learned quite a bit doing this

[vernal crest]

I don't know who Copa is but I am extremely wary of you copying someone who didn't give their NPC a unique prefix

[lucid iron]

If u do it like this then it gets annoying to translate

[vernal crest]

ANd no you don't need schedule strings

Oh yeah and they load their dialogue

[unique tusk]

Ah I wasn't trying to copy, I was just looking at someone elses coding like you suggested I do unless that's not what you meant?

[dusky sail]

i18ns forever i love procrastinating writing dialogue and flavor text (not what they're for)

[vernal crest]

No, stop looking at this NPC immediately

[vernal crest]

Yes, that is what I suggested. And I did mean to copy them! But not this one, they're not using good practice so you'll learn bad habits.

[dusky sail]

Its good to have an example but its only worthwhile if the example is good on its own

[vernal crest]

(In this situation, copying is good thing because it's not creative work, it's just about learning how to put all the words and commas and stuff in the right order. But you need to find work worth copying.)

[dusky sail]

Not that this npc is bad i dont even know them. But things are convention for a reason so when someone doesnt follow them it calls their code into question

[vernal crest]

Download Wren instead: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/14286

[dusky sail]

Most post 1.6 npcs are almost the same when you crack open the hood bc thats the code that works

[vernal crest]

She's made by the person who wrote the tutorial you're following so it's most likely to be similar to what you're reading.

[dusky sail]

I realize im blabbin on. Aba knows more. Listen to them instead of me ok bye

[vernal crest]

Oh my gosh you're Ify from ES! I only just realised xD

[unique tusk]

Downloaded!

[dusky sail]

Ive been recognized.... what does this mean

[vernal crest]

Hmmm...it means...I like knowing who people are ^_^ and you are no longer two separate people in my head

(You weren't blabbing, by the way I don't own giving advice to people haha)

[dusky sail]

Now instead of two people who act like they know more than they do im just one!!! (Light hearted ofc)

[unique tusk]

Yeahhh I'm still lost, I did the exact same thing in Wrens file so idk why mine isn't working 😭

[vernal crest]

Did you fix your patch in your content.json to make it an Include again?

[lucid mulch]

I actually dont entirely know if there is a good example mod that doesn't break at least one modern best practice convention due to legacy reasons

[vernal crest]

Lacey's up there I think?

[unique tusk]

Yeee here's what it currently looks like https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/56815bbecf5341cfa923e03a62a26f17

[vernal crest]

I am in the process of making an example NPC mod that is intended to showcase best practice...but I am slooow

[lucid mulch]

note if I see the word dispo/disposition its disqualified on the spot

[vernal crest]

Yess I am not disqualified

[unique tusk]

Why?? :o

[vernal crest]

Okay, now what does your dialogue.json look like now?

Tia is a culprit for disseminating disposition lol

[lucid mulch]

seeing disposition means its 95% a port from 1.5 or older and lightly touched up to be 1.6 compatible but didnt change the filename

[vernal crest]

(Or made using Tia's tutorial)

[lucid mulch]

or a new mod copying that old style

[vernal crest]

When I started Hiria I used disposition

[unique tusk]

https://smapi.io/json/none/6deee4ec9fbc4689a034ed76f0c21a03

[vernal crest]

But then I was annoyed that it didn't match the asset name

[vernal crest]

You haven't changed this at all. This is the one I have been telling you to change every time.

[unique tusk]

WAIT IT IS?

[vernal crest]

Yep

[unique tusk]

Omg I thought you meant the content json

[dusky sail]

Oops. Oh well mistakes happen now you can fix the dialogue json

[lucid mulch]

also I haven't seen a single mod at all actually edit the world map as 1.6 intends to the point I don't know if there's actually a bug or something I don't know about

[vernal crest]

I did say to change the dialogue file but I could've been clearer. Sorry, if I had realised you were only thinking of the content.json I would've reiterated the point.

[vernal crest]

You mean according to what's on the wiki page? https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:World_map

[unique tusk]

It's okie! I tend to skim text and miss stuff a lot cause ADHD be making me go too fast for my own good

[lucid mulch]

think so yeah

[lucid iron]

Iirc nic was trying and failing at it

[vernal crest]

I see I will have to break out the in future /j

[lucid mulch]

when I was looking every single mod I could find was just EditImage on the 1.5 world map textrure anyway

[vernal crest]

I've seen plenty of people try to edit the Data/WorldMap asset

Not sure how successful any of them are

[lucid mulch]

it has to work in some capacity as vanilla uses it for farm maps

[vernal crest]

I am fully intending to, I just haven't finished my maps yet

[unique tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/see-it-like-final-hamster-scared-gif-14498643

CHAT CHAT IT WORKED THE DIALOGUE W O R K E D

[vernal crest]

Let's see. RSV, Central Station, SVE, VMV are all editing Data/WorldMaps in my mods folder

[lucid mulch]

they edit Data/WorldMaps to populate the tooltip and stuff but not texture

central station might due to being pathos, but didnt check

[vernal crest]

"Texture": "Mods\\Lumisteria.MtVapius\\Map\\MtVapiusMap"?

[lucid mulch]

the base texture for the world area doesnt count, needs to be the smaller regions

[vernal crest]

Like MapAreas and WorldPositions?

Or specifically Textures?

[lucid mulch]

specifically textures in the texture array inside mapareas

[devout grail]

Hey, I just had an idea for a mod, and I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts. A Stardew Valley mod inspired by that new game, Schedule I. I think you already know where this is going.

[lucid mulch]

!modideas and probably against server rules

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[devout grail]

I've never made a SDV mod, but I do have plenty of programming experience. If there's enough interest, I might try to make it.

[devout grail]

Yeah, probably.

Just thinking aloud, I guess.

[lucid iron]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid mulch]

I personally wouldnt start with a mod that you cant discuss in the server and use a more PG theme

[devout grail]

Eh, boring.

[vernal crest]

We wouldn't be able to help you with it, nor would you be allowed to gauge interest in it here

[fading walrus]

Yeah, bit hard to help with something we can't talk about at all

[oblique meadow]

Know what we CAN talk about?

Tacos

[vernal crest]

Mmmmmm I don't know that's dangerously close to ||tortillas||

[oblique meadow]

While that is risk, we cannot deny tacos because of apprehension of the delivery system

[drowsy pewter]

I probably asked this before but let me double check. Can I make a custom book without C# that does the book flip animation? I have spacecore and BETAS

[calm nebula]

The one where you book?

I think the book flip animation is available to all of the book category or type or smth

[brittle pasture]

you can, just need the right category

[drowsy pewter]

but what triggers it flipping?

[brittle pasture]

reading it?

unless I severely misunderstands

[calm nebula]

So when you say book

Do you mean book (item granting permanent upgrades)

Book (guidebook)

[drowsy pewter]

I want to emulate the book item that teaches you all the queen of sauce recipes; right now it's a normal item with spacecore's onitemused trigger that marks all the recipes as known and sends a little notification message. If I make it a Book category item, I don't know how any of that links up with the actual reading of the book, or if theres some vanilla book field thing that needs to be made, because it seems to be like all vanilla book function is handled in C#

Okay

it's in BETAS triggers

[calm nebula]

Okay. If you're okay with a delay I was also going to suggest keying off the stat

[drowsy pewter]

I dont know what that means

[brittle pasture]

reading a book automatically increments a stat named after the book’s id

you can then set a trigger action to run based on that stat

all vanilla functionality

[drowsy pewter]

betas is a mod requirement so it should be ok

[brittle pasture]

the problem obviously is that the trigger isn’t instant and that’s where BETAS comes it yea

[drowsy pewter]

i searched for the word book on six different pages before that lol

[brittle pasture]

hmm is the book functionality documented on the wiki anywhere

[lucid iron]

It's a good idea to have a backup stat check dayending trigger anyways

I like how BETAS, button's mod, ate one of the functions of SPU, also button's mod

[drowsy pewter]

why do you say this?

[lucid iron]

If the modded trigger were to fail for any reason outside your control

You can have the vanilla trigger apply still

It'd be a one time trigger action anyway and u can do the edit twice with local tokens to change the trigger+condition only

[tiny zealot]

can you have the betas trigger mark your vanilla trigger as applied?

(i'm not 100% on how it would be set up so forgive me if that question is nonsense)

[lucid iron]

Stick MarkActionApplied at the end i guess

My understanding atm is that 6480 has a book item that fires a Data/TriggerActions entry which has a big list of MarkCookingRecipeKnown

[drowsy pewter]

yes

[lucid iron]

It is just optional redundancy thing dw about it too much

I do tend to think in terms of how to do X in vanilla only mode vs fancy mod framework mode

[drowsy pewter]

yeah i didnt want to say it but im honestly too lazy to do that lol

if it fails i'll just blame button /j

[tiny zealot]

no shame in that if you already have the hard dependency on betas

[lucid iron]

The benefit of having actual book item and then the stat is that

If there was explode down the line you can come back and add the backup trigger action

Cus the stat is saved

[calm nebula]

Something something you should use as many dependencies as it takes to get your point across

And not one more

[tiny zealot]

something something the design is finished not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away /lh

[calm nebula]

I deleted all my mods so it means they're finished right

....it actually does, lol

Bad jokes are bad jokes I'm gonna get out of here

[tiny zealot]

happy knitting

[lucid iron]

Atra i was thinking about some smd stuff that I would like to make real and available

Mostly the player control event bit

That requires me, person who wrote zero events, to make a event framework mod tho

[tiny zealot]

hmm that could be a sensible event timecube feature, but then i would have to do work and that stinks

[lucid iron]

Another thing i occasionally think about is a way to display a CG that is not just switch to temp map with the thing as big ol tile lol

[drowsy pewter]

looool

can you use trigger actions in events? you can use meeps image inspect thing now

[lucid iron]

You can yeah

/action

[gentle rose]

are chat commands changing the game's fullscreen type sometimes a known thing?

[lucid iron]

I once wanted to make a event command and then decided not to because /action exists

[jagged sun]

hello, is there anyone who would want to make a mod? i have an offer and idea

[iron ridge]

!modideas

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[gentle rose]

!comms

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !comms.

[oblique meadow]

Can someone please tell me why it was easier to build a completely new game into stardew than it was to trigger the existing minigames and use them outside the fair

because woof

[lucid iron]

It's cus you don't have to become confused by mr ape's arcane texts

The IMinigame interface is very barebones anyway

[calm nebula]

Feel free to have it! All code is MIT

I'm pretty happy to let other people take it

[lucid iron]

That's very kind but this is my actual hold up

I will go see if there's any smd bit i should toss in mmap tho

[jagged sun]

i wish there was a mod for sparkling water

like water sparkly and glittery

[unreal spoke]

That’s something you should be able to easily make yourself. Edit one part of a (large) sprite, very simple CP patch, done.

[jagged sun]

idk how

[oblique meadow]

wait. Ok. I know im slow...but Chu, you made MMAP?

[jagged sun]

could u help me in private?

[unreal spoke]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[unreal spoke]

No.

[lucid iron]

Yeah

I feel like the frequency I link me docs should have indicated it

[oblique meadow]

Huh! im slow on the uptake

[oblique meadow]

Maybe to intelligent observant people.....

[tiny zealot]

it's much better to help out in the open.

1. discord isn't great for discoverability (others may find the information down the line and be helped by it) but DMs are way worse
2. other people in passing might be able to help
3. there's nothing to be ashamed of when learning to mod/nobody on here is going to steal your stuff

[jagged sun]

im vbery bad at understanding however i would want few mods like a farm and water with glitters

[lucid iron]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[jagged sun]

are they on dc?

[lucid mulch]

if I ever get around to it, wanna own the leoMemory system?
its out of scope for any of my current mods (though it is pretty much a multiplayer only thing so I could get away releasing it standalone I guess)

[fading walrus]

most of them are, and their discords are mentioned in that page's table

[lucid iron]

-# Can u give it to ichor when event time cube becomes real? The name is perfect trust

[vernal crest]

And trinket tinker and monster variety and peliq

[jagged sun]

would water with glitter mods considered as tilesheet?

[oblique meadow]

I think now that I realize that Chu = Mushymato I can follow along now xD

[lucid mulch]

I'll see if pathos wants it first 😄

[lucid iron]

How come I have this problem when selph doesn't even tho they r zombifier on nexus

Is it just cus I didn't put my very long discord name on nexus profile

[fading walrus]

not enough unhinged vibes without your mod preview pics

[oblique meadow]

It's because Selph is in our heads....in our heads.... Zombi....

i'll see myself out

[lucid mulch]

I haven't had the problem either, no idea why not

[drowsy pewter]

you need bagged milk pfp

[lucid iron]

No i need medjedra mod tbh

[vernal crest]

"Created by Selph aka zombifier"
"Created by mushymato"

[lucid iron]

Yes fair enough

[brittle pasture]

there are at least two people that didn’t know zombifier was me before being told

[lucid iron]

Ah good so not even all the clear indications on nexus help

[oblique meadow]

If it makes people feel better. I didnt actually remember what MY username on nexus was.... Even though it's the exact same as here

[lucid iron]

I did intentionally keep all the mod stuff "signed" under mushymato so it is kind of a feature not a bug

[tiny zealot]

this is actually a pretty good fit for event timecube

[vernal crest]

I changed my Nexus username to Abagaianye as soon as I decided to give myself a modding name

(I don't use this name anywhere else but Stardew modding)

[gentle rose]

same with irocendar! (I use it one other place but like, barely)

[humble timber]

...yall use diff names for other stuff?

[fading walrus]

I'm quillex everywhere for consistency atp
irl stuff excluded, of course

[oblique meadow]

Some people value their privacy

[fading walrus]

unless quillex was taken in which case i become quillsnow lmao

[humble timber]

i mean i value One place being private (ish) and it's the only place where i go by a diff name xd

[vernal crest]

Yup I want as few links across my favourite life places as possible

[drowsy pewter]

theres unironically some other artist guy who also uses 6480 as his name online

[vernal crest]

Not favourite. Different.

Various, even.

[stark spindle]

Is it a reference to something?

[oblique meadow]

Obviously its a reference to the now discontinued Massey Ferguson 6480 tractor

-# Im lying

[stark spindle]

I prefer the 6479. the 80 was a backward step in my opinion.

[drowsy pewter]

its not and thats why its way funnier

some guy from brazil yoinked my randomly generated numbber

[stark spindle]

Thats nuts. Damn brazillian tractor fans.

[lucid mulch]

I have to actively fight for SinZ

[dusky sail]

Having more than one username would probably be smart huh

[stark spindle]

gotta stop googling this stuff in work

[oblique meadow]

At least his username wasnt something like "melons" so you arent in as much danger /s

I should stop looking at the mod ideas page. I have a project already. I dont need a side quest....

[dusky sail]

20 projects at once challenge

[stark spindle]

Not even just a little one ...

[oblique meadow]

I just added space invaders to Stardew Valley. No. Not even a little one 😝

Sorry. Let me rephrase. I just added legally distinct but in the similar vein of space invaders

[stark spindle]

Space swarmers?

[dusky sail]

Stardrop shooters

[oblique meadow]

Farm Attackers

[dusky sail]

Cownapper Invasion!

[oblique meadow]

It's a junimo defending against a swarm of hungry farm animals

[dusky sail]

(The ! Is important)

[lucid mulch]

ufo and aliens are already canon for the most part wont take too much to do a space invaders arcade machine

bonus points if its craftable using the strange capsules

[oblique meadow]

Oh it wasnt hard. I actually made the arcade cabinet already

Game is functional

mostly

I don't want to make it craftable because Im adding to the arcade in an expansion area im making. Something unique

[lucid iron]

As long as it's a tile action then ppl can reuse it

[shut edge]

https://tenor.com/view/know-more-desire-to-know-more-intesifies-gif-9636468

hopefully that gif isn't too obnoxious

[oblique meadow]

I am building a retro arcade as part of a small expansion area im working on

[shut edge]

hell yeah

[oblique meadow]

Figured an arcade needed a few more games

[shut edge]

my pac-man mod has some pac-man cabinets in it

if you wanna maybe use those

[lucid iron]

Husky what about connect 1

[oblique meadow]

I mean… I feel Pac Man would fit perfectly…

[lucid iron]

(this is jokes but connect 4 can be fun)

[shut edge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/24869

[tiny zealot]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/335/037/a3c.png ?

[lucid mulch]

tic tac toe with less steps

[oblique meadow]

Those look fantastic

[lucid mulch]

actually connect 4 is also solved, so its actually the same as regular connect 4 if played optimally

[shut edge]

i will probably eventually make some more arcadey furniture but time / effort etc

thanks

[lucid iron]

Every arcade needs a rigged against you game

[oblique meadow]

I wonder how hard it would be to code a very basic pinball game

I think pinball would wrap it up nicely

[shut edge]

that would kick ass

[lucid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/3d-pinball-space-cadet-windows95-video-games-lights-gif-16777005

[oblique meadow]

-# I should stop scope creeping

[shut edge]

scope creep never stops

[lucid iron]

I think you need to implement the physics yourself

[lucid mulch]

I have been tempted to add monopoly, but don't feel like working on my like 5th implementation

[lucid iron]

It's not full physics engine tho

[oblique meadow]

I’m already struggling with skeeball

[lucid iron]

So harder than space invader easier than stardew 3d

Plinko would be easier if u wanna do that for now

[shut edge]

speaking of scope creep i am thinkin i might get back to my jerky project soon

https://i.imgur.com/PWOvBCp.png

pachinko parlor

[oblique meadow]

I figured the fishing mini game already handles a strength of throw mechanic and the slingshot has an aim mechanic. So I should be able to lean on existing features to make skeeball

[dusky sail]

I want to eat them...... and i dont even like jerky

[shut edge]

thanks

there are probably other meats out there i should make

prob will do squid yet

[oblique meadow]

https://beefjerkyx.com/products

[shut edge]

and maybe a generic any other fish

[oblique meadow]

Everything can be jerky

[shut edge]

pretty much

might try and make a couple alternate dehydrators

one for bulk and one for like...sun drying? faster in the desert?

prob do some meat sticks and biltong while i'm at it

damn that site has shark jerky

[oblique meadow]

So Cryo. I was looking at the permissions on your Pac Man mod. And even though it's pretty open still want to make sure you're ok if I nip a few of your assets. Tweak them a bit and add them to my arcade. I will likely be turning on Donation points for the mod so you do require permission there first. We can discuss in DM if you'd prefer but I just wanted to get your blessing. I will, of course, give credit where credit is due on the pac stuff.

[shut edge]

yeah i'm fine with that

do you actually get anything with donation points?

[oblique meadow]

They say I can use them to donate towards charity. So even if its a miniscule amount, why not

[shut edge]

yeah that should be cool then

if you need something more specific lemme know

should just need to download the ghosts and the cabs will be in the assets

[oblique meadow]

Awesome. Thank you!

[lucid mulch]

I have ~150usd sitting in the nexus wallet waiting to be redeemed from donation points via paypal if I want it

[shut edge]

dang

i doubt i get enough traffic or whatever to bother enabling them on my stuff

[lucid mulch]

it adds up

having it off does nothing but throw it in the bin

[shut edge]

eh if someone wants to give me money they can contact me lol

[blissful panther]

It's theoretically a tiny bit more in the pockets of everyone else who has DP turned on, but... you can also just send it straight to charity.

[shut edge]

most of my stuff is fairly derivative anyway

[shut edge]

you said you're making actual playable ones yeah? wouldn't mind making a variant of my cocktail cab for space invaders if you want

[oblique meadow]

I kinda already made one. Flashing lights and such

[shut edge]

ah that looks cool

neat

[late gull]

Need help with some of the games? I literally just came here to brag a bit about my new junimo pong and pac-man (labyrinth) code lmao

[shut edge]

there's a couple mods on nexus with new arcade cabs i think

could make for a nice little community resource project heh

[oblique meadow]

haha. No. I think Im ok. But I appreciate it. Luckily technology has advanced to where modern games can run old games....

[shut edge]

i should probably get laying down tho, good luck yall

[late gull]

Just showing off my Junimo Pong iMinigame ive been making over the past couple days, 5 levels of increasing difficulty / layout, 3 powerups (wide paddle, speed, sticky ball), and controller support

[shut edge]

that's lookin nice

[oblique meadow]

I like it

[shut edge]

probably could reuse some of that code for breakout too

[oblique meadow]

My breakout doesnt look half that good

[oblique meadow]

One suggestion if I may? Give the option for different backgrounds or something. Im partially colorblind and I was losing the junimo when it got near the mountains because everything was the same color

[late gull]

Good suggestion, I'll add a config with GMCM support to toggle different types of colorblind-friendly backgrounds or filters before release for sure!

Would a config option to change the Junimo ball color help too?

[oblique meadow]

I can't speak to that as well. If you change the background it should be ok i'd think

But if you want to ensure you cover inclusivity out the gate, it wouldnt be the worst thing. People like customization

But that's really all i've got. It looks great

[autumn tide]

hey! working on a letter + quest; the goal is that Emily sends the player a letter, along with a fruit salad, and a question about how she should refer to krobus. This triggers a quest to give krobus a fruit salad. If you speak to emily afterwards, she will express disappointment that krobus disliked the food, and ask about how to refer to Krobus. (there's lore in my mod that makes this make sense lol)
Is it correctly written? I will put it in its proper place later, rn I'm still drafting the story

"{{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest":"Hi! ^How are you doing? I had some spare ingredients at the saloon and I wanted to make some food for Krobus. Let me know if they like it! :) ^ Love, Emily < ^ P.S. : What pronouns does Krobus use? It’s always good to be respectful! ^ + %item quest {{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest_Quest true %%%item id [610 [1]]+ %%[textcolor purple][#]Emily sends a Fruit Salad for Krobus”

“{{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest_Quest”: “ItemDelivery/A gift for Krobus/Emily made some food for Krobus and wants you to give it to Krobus./Give a Fruit Salad to Krobus./Krobus 610/0/0/0/false/Oh, Emily made this for me..?#$b#I suppose I’ll try it…$3#$b#...I’m sure Emily meant well.$2#$t {{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest_”

“{{ModId}}_Emily_Letter_Quest_Response”:”Hi! How’s Krobus doing? Did they like the Fruit Salad?$3#$b#Oh, they didn’t?$2#$b#That’s okay, I’m sure I can make something Krobus’ll like!$1#$e#Oh, and how should I refer to Krobus?#$b#%You explain to Emily that Shadowfolk only go by name, and that the use of pronouns is considered disrespectful, barring plurals.#$b#Got it, so just ‘Krobus’ then? Okay!”

[mighty quest]

I'm patching Data/Machines via AssetRequested API and giving it AssetPriority.Late to overwrite some changes made by SVE. I've checked that the patch is being applied and everything when the game loads. But, for some reason, when it comes time for the game to actually read this data, my changes are always gone and the data is reverted to SVE's original values. I can't seem to figure out when or why my changes are being overwritten...

[tiny zealot]

i would check your log and probably also do a patch export if you haven't yet

the log will list all the edits made in order

something like

your mod edited Data/Machines
some other mod edited Data/Machines```

the ones coming after you in that list are the ones to look at. or maybe the order is not what you expected and you can fix that instead

[mighty quest]

I'll do that

Yeah, looks like mine was the last one:

13:18:19    TRACE    SMAPI    Walk Of Life - Rebirth loaded asset 'DaLion.Professions_ArtisanMachines'.
13:18:19    TRACE    SMAPI    Serfdom loaded asset 'DaLion.Taxes_ArtisanMachines'.
13:18:21    TRACE    SMAPI    Content Patcher edited Data/Machines (for the 'More Fish' content pack).
13:18:21    TRACE    SMAPI    Content Patcher edited Data/Machines (for the 'Stardew Valley Expanded' content pack).
13:18:21    TRACE    SMAPI    ExtraMachineConfig edited Data/Machines.
13:18:21    TRACE    SMAPI    Walk Of Life - Rebirth edited Data/Machines.
13:18:51    INFO    SMAPI    $>patch export Data/Machines
13:18:51    INFO    Content Patcher    Exported asset 'Data/Machines' to 'G:\Steam\Library\Stardew Valley\patch export\Data_Machines.json'.

But the export shows unedited values.

[opaque field]

I made a salsa mod to go with the tortillas XD https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37434

[agile flame]

avg stardew enjoyer

[calm nebula]

Are you aware you have c# project files in there?

[opaque field]

oop no I thought I deleted that out before I uploaded

ty

[agile flame]

nah bro, bro went out of his way to make one of the salsa's 1 pixel of center 😭

right bottom corner

[opaque field]

enfixening

[agile flame]

real

[opaque field]

I had someone look at it before posting and he was like 'yeah looks good babe'

[tiny zealot]

was it 6480? /lh

[agile flame]

i doubt they said babe

(I'm just jealous)

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm looking at special characters with specific uses in content packs, bar Dialogue, Manifest files, and Query fields, do these special characters > + ^ () . * $ have use outside of these 3 specific usecases?

[verbal narwhal]

can I also ask for help brainstorming here?
as to how a player who has just seen the seb 14 heart event (but chose to toggle the terrarium off with another mod bc custom spouse room or spouse room redecoration) how and why to give them a custom mod frog tank in a somewhat immersive way?

[karmic gust]

Hmm, maybe an event where Sebastian asks how the player feels about getting a new pet? And if the player agrees to it then he'll give them the custom frog tank

[lucid iron]

Robin builds a tank

[verbal narwhal]

ah in the scenario I think that most players face they see the cutscene where it is in his spouse room but afterwards gone bc of mods

[lucid iron]

I think you can just force spawn the furniture tank if it's not present in the farmhouse though, and then add the tank to the lostitemshop so people can retrieve it immersively

[verbal narwhal]

can i use trigger actions to always trigger a dialogue after the cutscene?

[lucid iron]

In this scenario you are the mod that is erasing the tank from the map

And replacing it with the furniture

[verbal narwhal]

mhm but would that disable compatibility with a mod that deletes all the furniture from the spouse rooms? or would they conflict?

I will just ask the mod author of spouse room renovation

[lucid iron]

Furniture is independent of map

[verbal narwhal]

I really like this and thought of a scenario already where there is an event with sebastian if the player is good friends with him and chose to not marry him where Robin builds one for you, but this will have me look into events and this still seems quite daunting

[lucid iron]

And also you just do it one time

In the future the player get tank back from the crow

[verbal narwhal]

the scarecrow crows? :D

[lucid iron]

So if they dont want tank in the farmhouse (maybe they put it in a pif) then they can do that

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Lost_items_shop

This is a mechanism to get a "one time" item back if you lost it

[verbal narwhal]

mhm I already did something like that but that one is without any sebastian mentions, so setting one up with the mentions is easy now, I was just thinking of ways to make it immsersive (and the player who has contacted me already has two mods that modify spouse rooms so I don't think I should add my shenanigans with the spouse room as well)

[urban patrol]

i did end up getting it working! although yes i did EditImage instead of setting BaseTexture because it seemed simpler—world positions and map areas i successfully got working though

[verbal narwhal]

I always thought it was run by the trash bear!

[lucid iron]

The trash bear would never give it back he only homf

[stable grotto]

does anyone know where this colour is coming from? every single interior mod has this issue of a mismatched colour once the last bag expansion is sold
and the colour is not directly picked from any interior tile/asset

[verbal narwhal]

homf

[latent mauve]

Is it possible that the game draws a colored rectangle over the For Sale portion of the counter when the bag is sold, rather than pulling from a sprite?

[stable grotto]

in that case I would assume that colour is the same unless a mod changes the code but it always somewhat fits the esthetic of the mod pack

[latent mauve]

I know that happens with a few color spots that interfere with UI mods

[stable grotto]

this is proof it's at least not taken from towninterior (vpr has this purple colour, not the brown earthy has)

[latent mauve]

Ah, I see

[stable grotto]

yes, I painted the entire sheet red XD

except for the counter ... let me "fix" that

[lucid iron]

Do you have access to the decompile repo from pathos

[stable grotto]

maybe..? where would that be?

[lucid iron]

On github

[royal stump]

SeedShop's code contains this, which I think is drawing that from cursors, probably? it's been too long since I parsed spritebatch args though

public override void draw(SpriteBatch b)
{
    base.draw(b);
    if (Game1.player.maxItems.Value == 12)
    {
        b.Draw(Game1.mouseCursors, Game1.GlobalToLocal(new Vector2(456f, 1088f)), new Rectangle(255, 1436, 12, 14), Color.White, 0f, Vector2.Zero, 4f, SpriteEffects.None, 0.1232f);
    }
    else if (Game1.player.maxItems.Value < 36)
    {
        b.Draw(Game1.mouseCursors, Game1.GlobalToLocal(new Vector2(456f, 1088f)), new Rectangle(267, 1436, 12, 14), Color.White, 0f, Vector2.Zero, 4f, SpriteEffects.None, 0.1232f);
    }
    else
    {
        b.Draw(Game1.mouseCursors, Game1.GlobalToLocal(Game1.viewport, new Rectangle(452, 1184, 112, 20)), new Rectangle(258, 1449, 1, 1), Color.White, 0f, Vector2.Zero, SpriteEffects.None, 0.1232f);
    }
}```

[lucid iron]

Yeah i was gonna link this part

here ya go then

The else case is the suspicious one, 1x1 px

[royal stump]

but yeah, pathos has the whole main branch decompile in a repo you can ask about

[latent mauve]

That does look like a white overlay as far as the color change (visually)