making-mods-general

[obtuse wigeon]

You can make new paths, that's what I did

[gentle rose]

(my wip portrait framework will have that option, not sure about existing ones)

[hard fern]

most people just choose not to bc its easier lol

[violet valley]

Anyone know how to make monsters spawn on a map? Can't rlly find any info on this

[obtuse wigeon]

it's very easy

[brittle ledge]

They can replace, but in 1.6 you can add new paths and mod users prefer that

[gritty sandal]

The amount of times I heard... Make paths is very easy

[brittle ledge]

Farm Type Manager, it's a framework on Nexus

[gritty sandal]

While I struggled... To make a single path work is amazing

[violet valley]

Ok, thanks

[lucid iron]

There's a learning curve of understanding how editing stuff with content patcher work

[hard fern]

well, i'll look into what spacecore can do for now, i mainly just wanna know bc if i have to make another 64x64 portrait i will cry

[lucid iron]

After that if the thing is exposed to asset, you can add new ones

[gaunt orbit]

I think spacecore can

[gentle rose]

yes, please look into other options for now because I have no idea how long this will take to release haha

I’m not working very quickly right now

[hard fern]

😔 64x64 is so teeny... i wanna add details...

[lucid iron]

Need more pixel per pixel

Forsy I recommend that you still do 64x64 portraits tho

[hard fern]

yeah... i plan on redoing them anyways bc the expressions are Not It

and until i finish the bigger ones i'll use the default sized

[brittle ledge]

please do not do only oversized portraits, learn from Baldur's Village

think of all the tech support folks that will have to field the portraiture questions

[hard fern]

😔 it's just that i stuggle so much with the small ones

[gentle rose]

-# or do them but only for my framework—

[tender agate]

why only portraits. justice and equality for sprites and everything else!

[lucid iron]

That's scale up 2

[hard fern]

we also have sprites in detail dont we

[gentle rose]

[lucid iron]

That's NPCs only pretty sure

[brittle ledge]

@lucid mulch What's the issue with RSV's map and your optimizer? I can pass the info along and see about getting it fixed

[tender agate]

#1359454014319755294 message

[obtuse wigeon]

I believe SinZ reported it to their github, If I remember correctly it was invalid NightTiles, same with S&S

[tender agate]

is the author for rsv active?

[brittle ledge]

Somewhat, he's been med school'd for a while

[obtuse wigeon]

oh sorry didnt see SombodyUnown already said

[hot gale]

Man this mod is real frustrating to get everything working how I want.. but man if it isn't also fun as hell to somewhat play while testing

[tender agate]

cus I'm like waiting for them to accept that PR for better game menu which I've heard is the only other valid optimization mod. but with a couple compat issues rn

[brittle ledge]

And I see Sinz already posted it over in RSV, so uh sorry for ping

[lucid iron]

We must bully sheku harder (impossible task, sheku proved unbullyable)

[tender agate]

no but yes

bullying may be bad but...

[lucid iron]

Iirc the bgm incompat with rsv isn't that bad tho

Is just the map problem right

[calm nebula]

Sheku remains unbullyable yeah

@final arch 🙁

I've tried.

Many times

[cold marsh]

Any idea why this only gives me Frog Eggs on random days when a Chance of 1 should (I think?) be giving me one every day?

    "RequiredPopulation": 0,
    "Chance": 1.0,
    "ItemID": "FrogEgg",
    "MinStack": 1,
    "MaxStack": 1,
},```

[hallow prism]

i mean, depends of what "this" is

a fish?

[cold marsh]

Yes, of course

[hallow prism]

oh of course

silly me

[lucid iron]

A fish pond has to do the population gate checks

[hallow prism]

When a fish pond is ready to produce output (based on a hardcoded (15 + 8 * population of pond)% chance), it checks each entry in the list and takes the first one that matches. If no entry matches, no output is produced.

well silly me that can't guess what an out of context thing is can read the wiki at least

[cold marsh]

Calm down, lol

[lucid iron]

So do u have 10 fish

[cold marsh]

The wiki you love so much also says "as a value between 0 (never) and 1 (always)", which would lead someone to believe that 1 = always

[hallow prism]

of course, master of diplomaty, i will calm down 🙂

no there is a note for this exact case

This is applied after the base chance of producing any item above. Default 1.

[soft lance]

Sorry if it's a bad time to ask

I'm very new to fish ponds

I'm unsure exactly how they work, but when I do this, my sea turtle never asks for stuff oddly

[hallow prism]

so hmm

i don't remember if the entry name must match the id

i would say that it should

once you did that, i would :

patch export Data/FishPondData and verify everything is listed properly

!patchexport

[ocean sail]

A patch export makes a copy of specific stuff in your content folder so you can see what changes have been applied.

1. Load up a save (with Content Patcher installed)
2. Type patch export <FILEPATHOFTHING> in the SMAPI console and hit return
3. Look in your patch export folder in the game folder for the relevant json file or image
4. If it's a json file, you can share it via smapi.io/json. If it's an image you should just be able to look at it.

To use this command, type !patchexport.

[hallow prism]

then empty and clear your fish pond and start fresh

(sometimes in my experience it didn't take new rules into account for me without doing that)

[inner harbor]

Does anyone here remember Fern River? I just realized I have their files shared in my Google Drive

They had some nice portraits.

[soft lance]

Alr tyyy

[hallow prism]

the name does ring a bell but i don't believe i saw art from it

[golden spire]

wasn't that a supernatural-related mod? I tend to not look into that stuff much

[inner harbor]

Well, nice portrait, I don't seem to have other ones.

[golden spire]

not my jam

[inner harbor]

Yeh, it never got off the ground.

I think it was intended to be a village of sort of fairy-tale type people

[brittle ledge]

It's still around, Bonster picked it up again recently.

[obtuse wigeon]

(If I want to request viewing access to the GitHub decomp of the game, do I message bouncer or is it better to ask here or another place?)

[inner harbor]

Yeh, I just saw you were part of it Tiakall.

[uncut viper]

are you the right level

[inner harbor]

That'll be cool if it comes to fruition after all this time

[obtuse wigeon]

I should be, requirement is level 50 and I'm level 68

[uncut viper]

i think you actually ask Pathos

[lucid iron]

Fern river is that mod that had a glowing birb right

Iirc it has a really early alpha somewhere

[obtuse wigeon]

okay, I shall ask when I catch Pathos online, it's not important or needed rn anyway so it can easily wait, thank you!

[lucid iron]

You need a gh account too

To accept the repo invite

[obtuse wigeon]

I do Indeed have a github acc, been going back an actually making the repos decent which takes so long!

[inner harbor]

Really? I fell well out of that loop about 3 years ago

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/RJGILBER/FernRiver/tree/main

I was gonna make some tiny C# to make a birb glow in it (well i made it already but idk maybe i should redo it)

[obtuse wigeon]

Wwww I'm very intrested in this, partly bc of the setting, but mostly because of the glow birb

[lucid iron]

hm why cant i patch export something i load to GameContent

[hot gale]

Any tools out there to properly convert a wav file to xnb?

[obtuse wigeon]

I think theres a web tool? bare with I'll try find it again

https://lybell-art.github.io/xnb-js/

[hot gale]

Ooooo ty

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't know if theres any specific formatting needed for audio but I know text and images work with it

[hot gale]

hmm yeah dont think that works

[lucid iron]

why do u need wav as xnb

[uncut viper]

audio files dont go to xnb

[hot gale]

I tried loading as .wav and .ogg to no avail

[lucid iron]

u need the Data/AudioChanges asset

[brittle pasture]

x/y problem strikes again

[lucid iron]

it's special™

[uncut viper]

this isnt even X/Y problem this is literally just not a thing you can do

[lucid iron]

the war never ends

[uncut viper]

the game audio is stored in wavebank and soundbank files which are .xgs and .xwb

[brittle pasture]

I think it counts if Y is impossible but I digress

[obtuse wigeon]

X/Y problems count as 90% of my problems because I seem to never learn

[uncut viper]

i think for something to be an x/y problem the answerers have to be deliberately ignoring the askers actual desires in order to suggest an alternative

[gentle rose]

that's not my understanding of what an xy problem is

[uncut viper]

is the X/Y problem not "how do i do X?" "why are you doing X? everyone does Y"

thats always how ive seen people refer to X and Y

[tender bloom]

I thought an XY problem was like “how do I replace the handle on a compressed air tank?” And the responses being all like “holy shit wait back up why is that even the question what is the real problem here?”

[brittle pasture]

my understanding is "I want to do X, but I think Y is the solution, so I'll ask about Y instead of X"

[gentle rose]

no, it's "how do I do y?"

"wait, why are you trying to do y?"

"because I want to do x and I figured I could do it by doing y"

[uncut viper]

i see we are evenly split on what we thought that problem was here

[tender bloom]

Yeah I guess more like iro and Selph

Maybe I was thinking of a specific sub flavor

[hot gale]

Glad I could spark such an enlightened conversation

[gentle rose]

I think yours is just a good example elizabeth

[lucid iron]

i intentionally try to preempt the x/y problem actually

that is why i always go "what is it that you want to achieve" and such

[uncut viper]

isnt that. literally just the X/Y problem as iro, elizabeth, and selph described it

[lucid iron]

yep

[urban patrol]

questions like that in here have made me reframe the way i ask questions here from Y to X, so that tactic works lol

[uncut viper]

how is that preempting it

[lucid iron]

im trying to get them to rethink whether they are the person asking this question

[uncut viper]

thats not preempting thats making it happen

[lucid iron]

words hard

but the xy problem already happened in my case

[lucid iron]

clearly i preempt at least one person

[urban patrol]

good question: "how do i play a sound when doing a warp?"
bad question: "why isn't [framework not meant to do this] not working?"

[crude plank]

i fear you Button
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37341

[uncut viper]

that mod wasnt my idea and i dont plan on usin it

[gentle rose]

x-y problem in a nutshell:

"how do I make a room 180°C"
"????"
"I want to make a cake"
"oven."

[lucid iron]

man i forgot why i wanted to use GameContent

[uncut viper]

chu doesnt even remember their own Y

[lucid iron]

and why it no work for patch export

my brain is full of Z

💤

[uncut viper]

why are you trying to do Z?

[lucid iron]

[gentle rose]

trying to cosplay as the duke

[uncut viper]

are you sure the actual intent is not to regain energy here

[crude plank]

who is it that i'm fearing then?

[uncut viper]

uhhh someone in #modded-stardew and surprisingly like 4 other people

[lucid iron]

it's my hope that the Z recovers a full bar of stam

[gentle rose]

this is why

[uncut viper]

dont do that then, you want an energy tonic

[lucid iron]

urite where can i buy some

[obtuse wigeon]

shop

[uncut viper]

your nearest homeopathy aisle

[obtuse wigeon]

of verying veriaties

[lucid iron]

it actually took me until 2024 to learn that

[gentle rose]

hospital

[lucid iron]

the clinic sells things...

[obtuse wigeon]

what?..

[uncut viper]

i dont need energy tonics because i have cheese

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh you mean in Stardew

[patent lance]

New quote added by chu2.718281828459045235360287471 as #6622 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1413658675675140127)

[obtuse wigeon]

not irl

[uncut viper]

(i also thought chu meant in real life for a moment and was very "...?")

[gentle rose]

exactly. my farmer is like 50% berries and 50% cheese

[lucid iron]

irl hospitals sell thing tho

[gentle rose]

teddy bears

[uncut viper]

thats why i was so confused how it took you so long to figure that out

[obtuse wigeon]

terrible food

[lucid iron]

smol chu had a lot of iv drips and parents always bought me snacc

[obtuse wigeon]

hospitals can also sell the distrust of medical facilities

[uncut viper]

another smol chu memory for the pile

[lucid iron]

npc concept all their events are tiny incidental anecdote

eventually u meet the ppl mentioned

[gentle rose]

adding this to my list of NPC challenges

[obtuse wigeon]

I just had an event happen in game with that, it was quite nice

[lucid iron]

i wonder if anyone is actually interested in adding themes for lookup anything

my usecase was just i wanted more looks and to make it fit more with ui recolors

[ornate trellis]

i sure would make it OURple

[lucid iron]

well it'd be urple by default

as long as u did the menutiles

[crude plank]

i want that

[lucid iron]

new theme would be like

a brand new 60x60 texture box just for LA theme tho, used nowhere else

[obtuse wigeon]

That would be a bit annoying imo, It would be nice to have it as a config option

[lucid iron]

It is a config option

Adding the content puts another choice basically

[obtuse wigeon]

-# ignore that message a dropped something on my keyboard

Oh cool that's good to know!

Might incorperate one into my UI darkener

[lucid iron]

That's gonna be hard cus I dont feel like doing the fonts rn

[obtuse wigeon]

does spacecore's scaling feature also work with fonts too?

actually better question, does spacecore's sacling feature work on any asset?

[lucid iron]

Wouldn't you have to target each individual glyph that seems horrible

[lucid mulch]

The wording I heard and repeat is "what is the problem you are trying to solve"

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh, I thought the glyphs were targeted at the loaded asset not the png file itself

[lucid iron]

Just use font settings

[obtuse wigeon]

(Why oh Why CA did you choose to use png like fonts and not type fonts)

I do, I just thought it might be a fun little adition to my recolour

[lucid mulch]

He used real fonts for not+english but wanted the cute spritey font for english

[gentle rose]

also I think it's only one of the fonts that's a sprite font? smallFont and "tinyFont" are normal iirc

and dialogueFont

(idk what tinyFont is meant to be tbh, I tried it and it was strange)

[uncut viper]

its for like stack numbers innit?

or is it the numbers in the toolbar hotkey spaces

[gaunt orbit]

pretty much every game that exists uses bitmap fonts because vector rasterization is expensive as hell

[gentle rose]

is it? it didn't even look like a pixel font to me

[inner harbor]

You can't give a specific secret note in an event or dialogue, can you?

[lucid iron]

It only has numbers

[obtuse wigeon]

ahhh I didn't think of vector rasterization, good point

[lucid iron]

If you try not number it gets confused

[gentle rose]

guess which one is tiny font

[gentle rose]

ah, I see

[lucid iron]

No bulli

[gentle rose]

no wha?

[lucid iron]

Tiny font trying it's best

[uncut viper]

nada

[gentle rose]

got replaced by ...s

[indigo totem]

I love the magic boat creature

[brittle pasture]

clearly you should implement autoscrolling

[indigo totem]

Brings me so much joy

[gentle rose]

the portraits are by dolphin!

[obtuse wigeon]

well do I have news for you!

[indigo totem]

BRO DOLPHINS ART IS SO GOOD

[lucid iron]

Casino Woman...

[gentle rose]

like this?

[tame burrow]

Dolphin bookseller 💜

[brittle pasture]

waow

[lucid iron]

Marqueeee

[gentle rose]

it even has controller support

[obtuse wigeon]

all items added by mods are shown even you patch export data/objects right?

[lucid iron]

You get the state after all changes applied

It's possible for me to block a Data/Objects edit behind a When

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh okay, any way to force all changed to be applied? guessing not (trying to get all items that can be added by mods to export and I don't know the all the specific requirements)

wait no that's a null question, I don't need to

[uncut viper]

the answer is no anyway unless you make a custom build of CP that ignores When conditions. and then fix all the errors that causes

[obtuse wigeon]

oof, glad I don't actually need to do that

[uncut viper]

(i suppose you could just harmony patch CP too, but still, errors abound)

[obtuse wigeon]

harmony patching CP sounds like a very dangerous game

[uncut viper]

no different than harmony patching any other mod

or harmony patching the game for that matter

[lucid mulch]

Whati s the problem you are trying to solve?

[obtuse wigeon]

just trying to make many many bags for the mod item bags, but I can just add the mod ID and catagories rather than finding the catagories of items that mods add

[lucid iron]

I thought item bags have context tag support now

[obtuse wigeon]

It doesn't look like they have context tag support, at least not that I can find, but they do support catagories and modIDs which is all I need

[lucid mulch]

im assuming "modids" is just prefix based assuming mods use standard conventions

[obtuse wigeon]

I feel like the article I'm reading on the nexus page is outdated due to JsonAssets mentions, but the author also has said they're only fixing it when it breaks due to game updates, so I don't blame them for not updating the article

[lucid mulch]

oh if it was a jsonassets reference then it wont work for 1.6 items

[obtuse wigeon]

the bags do actually work in 1.6 with 1.6 items, reinforcing my guess that it's an outdated article

[lucid mulch]

the modid categorization mechanism I mean

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohhh gotcha

[obtuse wigeon]

bit of an odd question that doesn't provide any use to me, do qualities (silver, gold, iridium) use a 4 bit value? given the values are 0, 1, 2, 4

[lucid mulch]

its stored in a regualr int

and no vanilla code really treats it as a flagged enum

[obtuse wigeon]

oh okay, thank you for the explanation

[lucid mulch]

in general its only worth messing with <8bit numbers if you are writing to disk or network

[lucid iron]

3 the lost rarity...

There is a weird unused star actually

[lucid mulch]

in memory its just worse performance as cpus really like working on complete words at a time and trying to introspect individual bits is expensive

[obtuse wigeon]

That was my thought process, that it was a bit weird if it did use half a byte, but the game was made by one person originally so it's not a totally unheard of use case

[brittle pasture]

it uses 0 1 2 4 because of the quality price calculation

final price = base price * (1 + quality * 0.25)

(not actually what you asked but)

[brave fable]

ah yes, the classic minor refactoring commit with 346 files changed. oldest trick in the book

[brittle pasture]

speaking of, blueberry I sent a small PR to LOC, should take only 5 min to review

[uncut viper]

if you balance it out thats a PR with only 84 added lines, super quick check

[brave fable]

ah yeah I was just looking through that

I think about 1000 of those are indentation changes you pushed lol

[lucid iron]

no read only merge

brrrr

[brittle pasture]

(yeah, my editor runs dotnet format on save and it was, erm, very opinionated 😌)

[brave fable]

I usually tell my git client to ignore whitespace changes for this reason haha

[gaunt orbit]

VS will never get me to give up my tabs

[lucid iron]

i try not to do too much style changes

[gaunt orbit]

Space indentation is evil

[lucid iron]

but i draw line at if ( condition )

[brave fable]

had to stay my hand from correcting all the spaced parentheses in spacecore

ill review the PR when I get home if I have time, otherwise sometime next week

but also it's not being released until my spacecore changes are merged in some usable capacity, and casey's pretty busy afaik

[gentle rose]

you will never take my bracket spaces away from me

chu I have multiple questions about that emote

but I think the most important one is

avocado?

[uncut viper]

you're only allowed one question per day

the cat is quite clearly holding an avocado. what is so confusing about it (/lh)

[lucid iron]

[gentle rose]

thank you this is mine now

[gaunt orbit]

Is it an avogato

[obtuse wigeon]

I have a question that's not a whether I can but whether I should.
A mod supports adding items to a specific shop automatically (It's hardcoded in C# unfortunatly and the mod author said no new features will occur), but this shop is from a now outdated mod (A 1.4 PJAA mod last updated in 2021), Would adding a custom shop with the same name be an option I should take? (my mod will only be availble for 1.6.15)

I can think of 3 options (But I am open to others)

1. I add the shop with the same name so that items are added automatically.
2. I only add the shop if it doesn't exist so that the items are added to the actual shoop or my shop if that isn't present.
   or 3. I don't even begin to make a shop with the same name as the one in the outdated mod

[lucid iron]

4. write a new mod that does similar thing

idk is this item bags again

[obtuse wigeon]

That would've been the 4th option if I had the skills

yes it is the bags again

[lucid iron]

i have a silly idea that i'll share later but imo u should just add the item to another shop that makes sense

[tender bloom]

I feel like writing my own C# would be my tactic in that case

Enough C# papers over all issues

But if they’re normal objects can’t you just add them to shops yourself?

[lucid iron]

is not like u r rehost assets here

now the silly idea i have is, use trinket tinker's inventory feature to make bags lol

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm going to have a lot of bags and don't peticularly want to flood one of the vanilla or SVE shops or have them locked behind a decent amount of gameplay

[tender bloom]

Making your own new shop seems reasonable then

Making a new shop isn’t particularly hard

[obtuse wigeon]

Do they have auto pickup feature?

[lucid iron]

if u equip them sure

https://mushymato.github.io/TrinketTinker/guide/005.0-Inventory.html

they work more like chests

[tender bloom]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Content_Patcher_Snippets_for_1.6 here is some stuff to copy paste for making new shops

[lucid iron]

(again this is very silly idea, but this is a lot closer to what a 1.6 item bags impl might look like)

esp the part where it just has a Condition field

[obtuse wigeon]

Kinda? their ID is BoundedBag with aditional data of `BoundedBag::TypeId:<UUID That I set>>, this is an XY problem again, I forgot to ask if there was a way to add items to shops based on specific data thay have

[lucid iron]

i also feel it ought to be global inventories

[tender bloom]

Does spawning them in via console command work?

[lucid iron]

u can probably use itemid prefix gsq

try it perhaps

[tender bloom]

Otherwise you can make a normal shop and then use C# to replace once it’s added to inventory

Or maybe there’s a better workaround; that’s just my first idea

[obtuse wigeon]

Looking at the ITEM_ID_PREFIX GSQ, I'm not sure that's quite what I want? It's likely I don't know how that works though

[lucid iron]

u can add stuff by BoundedBag::TypeId as the id prefix

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't know C# enough to even begin with this, I was planning on using calcifer or spacecore to add the shop via a content pack

[lucid iron]

{
  "Id": "(O){{ModId}}_Furniture",
  "ItemId": "ALL_ITEMS (F)",
  "Price": 0,
  "PerItemCondition": "ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Target {{ModId}}"
},

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh, I didn't know it could do that, okay I shall give that a go them

[lucid iron]

uh shop is vanilla

u just add it basically

dont need anything besides content patcher

[tender bloom]

The snippets page section for shops is pure CP

[obtuse wigeon]

I wanted to add a custom shop, similar to how catalogues work, that needs a framework right for a custom shop?

then CP to add it to a shop

[lucid iron]

catalogue is a shop attached to a furniture

that part does need something yes, but the core of it is "associate Action OpenShop with a furniture"

adding a shop is vanilla

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh ye the only thing I'd use a framework for is registering the shop itself, accessing the shop via furniture and adding items will be done with CP

[lucid iron]

?????

this is the opposite of what i said u sure u didnt just type it backwards

[drowsy pewter]

Shop is a shop, they are added to a vanilla game data model in Data/Shops and can be accessed at any time anywhere as long as the appropriate trigger is thrown ingame.

The only thing you need a framework for is to be able to throw the OpenShop trigger when touching a specific furniture item.

[obtuse wigeon]

Yes I did get it the wrong way around, sorry I got massivly confused then, I've just looked at a previous mod I've made that adds a custom shop and the framework is indeed for acessing the shop from furniture, and not registering the shop itself

[uncut viper]

why do you need a framework to register the shop itself

oh

discord didnt scroll

thanks discord

[drowsy pewter]

hi button

[uncut viper]

hi 6480

[obtuse wigeon]

I've had discord do that too dw bahah

[lucid iron]

man that reminds me of this one time someone made a catalogue framework

i felt kind of bad n didnt say anything about how ppl r already doing it by other means

[uncut viper]

i think there cou ld be room for a catalogue framework if it offers extra features on top of em

[obtuse wigeon]

I agree, a specific extra feature is a better interface, but that's essentially already done as it's just a shop

[lucid iron]

yea i think main problem is that it wasn't a cp extension style framework either

hard to mix

[uncut viper]

oh...

[obtuse wigeon]

can I open a shop with a command for testing rather than assigning OpenShop to furniture or a tile?

[lucid iron]

debug shop

[obtuse wigeon]

Thank you

[lucid iron]

peliq is sort of a shop framework

in that it was made for a specific shop need (sell multiple kinds of bait randomly)

[obtuse wigeon]

Isn't livestock bazaar also technically a shop framework?

also made for a specific shop need

[lucid iron]

sure but only for animals

[uncut viper]

an animal shop is a shop nevertheless

[lucid iron]

i think if i was making it again, i'd do it more directly as ISalable

i just didnt know tho and i dont wanna change it now

[obtuse wigeon]

Read that as ISaladable, Apples new Salad based device

[uncut viper]

what do you mean if. you could make that happen. when can i expect Livestock Bazaar 2, chu?

[lucid iron]

uh no it'd just be 1.5.0 or something

[patent atlas]

isaladable

[uncut viper]

no i want a sequel

with new and improved graphics

maybe raytracing

[lucid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-cow-gif-17428338243821361151

[uncut viper]

and one feature beloved by fans inexplicably removed for no reason

[lucid iron]

trailer

[uncut viper]

wow.....

i cant wait

[patent atlas]

vampire the masquerade 2

[brave fable]

it's important that you forcibly uninstall previous versions of livestock bazaar and redirect the download links to the latest version only 😌

[obtuse wigeon]

And you gotta make a dedicated launcher, that's a must have

Oof I do not understand GSQs, I'm not too sure what the target should be for ITEM_ID_PREFIX

[game] Failed parsing condition 'ITEM_ID_PREFIX BoundedBag::TypeId': invalid item type 'BoundedBag::TypeId' (should be 'Input' or 'Target').

[uncut viper]

literally write Target

followed by your item id

[obtuse wigeon]

oh... okay thank you!

[uncut viper]

Target is a parameter similar to Current/Host/Any for players

Target/Input that is

[lucid iron]

see this

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhh gotcha okay

[lucid iron]

in my case i made shop sell everything my mod added

(which all happened to be furniture, hence the ALL_ITEMS (F))

[obtuse wigeon]

Unfortunatly "PerItemCondition": "ITEM_ID_PREFIX Target BoundedBag::TypeId" doesn't add the bags to the shop, just checking that this should be the syntax for matching the text in the image?

Do I need to surround the BoundedBag::TypeId with some form of quotes incase it thinks, the : are seperators

[lucid iron]

what does the internal id field say

[obtuse wigeon]

In Lookup anything on the bag? BoundedBag

[lucid iron]

hm in that case it'd be a pain to add yea

im guess there's hardcoded C# nonsense

[obtuse wigeon]

I think so too

[lucid iron]

is there any way you can pretend to be the shop from the no longer working mod

[obtuse wigeon]

I think so, I know the shop ID so I could mimic it

[verbal narwhal]

i cannot seem to find a guide on how to reference npc spritesheets for their animations :(

can someone pls direct me to that?

[lucid iron]

it might also need the mod id which would succ

[obtuse wigeon]

it is from PJAA era though so there may be jank

[lucid iron]

well u prob need to do smth like

install stf + the old mod

check if item bags does the thing

patch export Data/Shops

[obtuse wigeon]

oh no, that means going back to the dark ages of 1.4

[lucid iron]

shop tile framework works in 1.6

pathos keeps the lights on

[obtuse wigeon]

the actual mod that adds the shop however is 1.4 max

[obtuse wigeon]

Pathos, the great light keeper

[lucid iron]

yea so im saying just the stf component

u dont actually care too much about the contents of the shop but u need to see what id stf makes

honestly this is getting to point where it's kind of a pain and i give up on the content only approach

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh the stf IDs aren't defined by the user, gotcha

[obtuse wigeon]

Ye that's fully understandable, I thank you for your help reguardless, it has been invaluble

[hard fern]

why is the bad boungded may i ask

[obtuse wigeon]

Not a clue, I'm guessing because it's bound together by json and hope, I didn't name it that, I would've chose a bit of a less confusing name (I mixed bounded and bundled up quite often while thinking of a work around)

[brave fable]

needs colours changed?

#1 dyeable

[obtuse wigeon]

Wwww I like the bottom middle! looks similar to willow pattern colours

[brave fable]

pity i can't have big sleeve haori without fashion sense

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm very fond of the colours ngl

[lucid iron]

hm what kind of clothing r these

[brave fable]

simple mens yukata

for simple & complicated men

[lucid iron]

ah its the thing yakuza wear sometimes

how do you feel about doing a patterned one

it is not very many pixel tho

[obtuse wigeon]

Hey so like it works by just renaming the shop to the old mods shop name!

[brave fable]

chu that would mean editing the pants sheet sprites beyond fillbucketing a recolour in

[lucid iron]

oh true that is fate worse than death im sorry

[brave fable]

anyway the kimono sprites already have patterns and it just looks noisy

not a fan but apparently people downloaded it

[obtuse wigeon]

Thank you so so much for your help, and for bareing with my quite massive confusion blunder earlier

[brave fable]

people be installing just about any old mods these days

[late gull]

In regards to powers (the actual abilities side), is there a specific method call to use or something? im struggling to find any documentation

[lucid iron]

powers are simply icons

think of them as ui indications of player having a non-item/tool upgrade

you do whatever you want after that

[late gull]

I have been framing this wrong the whole time

Thank you

[oblique meadow]

So. Other than completely getting my coordinates wrong because I was looking at the wrong map....IT WORKS

I can trigger the games from the Fair

[hard fern]

can i play slingshot and break the windows

[lucid iron]

baby first C#

is just tileaction right

[oblique meadow]

yeah

[hard fern]

i wonder what my first C# will be. i hope it's something fun and cool

[oblique meadow]

Well. Mostly works....

Slingshot is not Slinging shots in the game

[hard fern]

uh oh

[oblique meadow]

I can launch the game though 🤷‍♂️

I also got it to successfuly let me set a "star tokens" to money conversion so people playing outside the fair dont get star tokens

so. Im like...mostly there?

[urban patrol]

log: https://smapi.io/log/11a06b31d9f7412181a41899d39b0c62
json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/cc16bd006c9343a399523c0a28b8430a
what do these warnings mean? i feel like it's that i incorrectly used target fields but i'm not sure

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.22631.0, with 20 C# mods and 3 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[brave fable]

Tooltips is a list, and those need some unusual behaviour to edit with TargetFields

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#edit-a-list

in your file from lines :423 onwards you're trying to add/edit entries of a list, but being a list, it has none

i think, i don't like targetfield and list

[urban patrol]

hmmm okay i think i see

is there an easier way to do it or do i just have to fix this

[brave fable]

the exact issue is that it's reading "Id": "{{ModId}}_FinchHouse" and expecting the value to be the actual entry

but it's finding a string instead of a data entry, hence failed converting String value to the expected type 'StardewValley.GameData.WorldMaps.WorldMapTooltipData'

[uncut viper]

pretend you're adding an object and the key is the same as your ID

"Entries": {
  "{{ModId}}_FinchHouse": {
    "Id": "{{ModId}}_FinchHouse",
     ...
  }
}

[urban patrol]

that's allowed? wow

[uncut viper]

thats the only way to do it with CP

[hard fern]

it looks weird but yeah it works ive found

[urban patrol]

this is like the first time i've ever seen a format that doesn't match unpacked data lol

thank you

that did indeed work, which is good to know for the future!

[brittle pasture]

Entries must take the form of a dictionary even if you're targeting into a list

this format is useful though, since it allows you to edit or even remove an entry from a list

[urban patrol]

yeah i definitely like this better esp that it matches what i'm used to

[lucid mulch]

What your patch made it become due to the nesting of TargetFields was https://smapi.io/json/none/7da90ceda23a44e0a6a69dcdc32b41ad and can see how your world positions very much don't look like the reference one I left in for comparison

when CP is pointed at a list, the Entry key is used purely as a lookup to see if it should insert new, or edit an existing entry,
so

 {
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/WorldMap",
    "TargetField": [
      "Valley",
      "MapAreas",
      "Mountain",
      "WorldPositions"
    ],
    "Entries": {
      "AdventureGuild": {
        "Id": "AdventureGuild",
        "LocationName": "AdventureGuild",
        "MapPixelArea": {
          "X": 219,
          "Y": 28,
          "Width": 3,
          "Height": 2
        },
        "ScrollText": "[LocalizedText Strings\\StringsFromCSFiles:MapPage.cs.11099]"
      }
    }
  }

would replace the existing AdventureGuild entry as AdventureGuild is the id of an existing entry, but using the entry key of AdventureGuild2 doesn't match an existing entry so will append it to the list.

due to this, its usually best to keep the entry key and the Id field to have the same value, but its not technically needed. if they are different where the Entry key isnt present in the target but the Id field is present, you would add a second version of it into the collection

[urban patrol]

ohh i see

[urban patrol]

got it all working! for anyone who comes across this later, the key was NOT having TileArea and HAVING MapPixelArea

[brave fable]

is that bouncer in a wizard hat

the dark magician

[urban patrol]

that's the combined forces of sandy, qi, and bouncer all in one place

i used debug friendall so i could see everyone lol

[brave fable]

shadow gunther.

[urban patrol]

new mod idea

yeah idk why some of them are in shadow, crystal (my NPC) was showing up in shadow sometimes too

maybe it means inaccessible or smth? since he and the goblin are both in shadow and can't be reached

[brave fable]

could be for non-social or non-scheduled

[urban patrol]

maybe, but idk why crystal would have showed up that way until 10 minutes ago lol

who knows, idek which mod does this

i think maybe it's LA?

[brave fable]

but ye the patterned sprites don't really read well even for a simple front-on view, at least for the floral designs (on the mod page https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4154)
maybe if i put less emphasis on the fold/seam in the middle of the kimono it'd be better, but i do also want the yukata to be differentiated from the kimono in appearance and be a bit more relaxed/everyday in comparison. patterns are fine on shirts since shirts don't really have layers or particularly unique designs, but the yukata do need to be clearly Not Shirts

and even a simple pattern like a pinstripe or some small decorations really slashes the readability of the linework

if i can brain out the haori and brawn out the hakama i'll also need the yukata to be simple enough visually to not clash with other layers and styles of clothing

really not keen on dealing with fashion sense but there's actually no other option for big sleeves unless i.... roll my own

(that's a rolling my sleeves joke i am never adding a c# component for sleeves)

(i'm also never updating the kimono sprites because it's just too much mindless staring and clicking)

[inland rain]

here's the final female here fishy clip

[drowsy pewter]

Perfect no notes

altho her voice cracks haha

[vital lotus]

Is there a way to check Mastery with CP token?

[brittle pasture]

you can use HasCraftingRecipe and check for one of the recipes granted by mastery

[vital lotus]

Aww, didn't think of that. Thank you!

[turbid oak]

I might want to try making a mod that adds JojaMart to the list of shops you can call to check their hours. This will be more difficult than my other mods but be good for practice. Can it be done with Content Patcher alone? I'm especially concerned because one of the mods I'm using (SVE or Marry Morris) changes JojaMart's hours from 9am-11pm to 10am-10pm. I don't know yet how to make it compatible, or if this means I'll need to be reaching out for permission.

[brittle pasture]

adding new outgoing phone numbers will unfortunately need C#

[turbid oak]

Darn it! Thanks.

[drowsy pewter]

phonework (phone framework)

[vital lotus]

There's framework for it 👀

[turbid oak]

What does framework mean?

[brittle pasture]

mods that let other mods do stuff
content patcher is one and the most famous [citation needed]

[turbid oak]

Does this mean it's actually possible to add new phone numbers without C# if you use the framework?

[brittle pasture]

(I think 6480 is joking and no such mod for phones exists yet)

[turbid oak]

Darn

Thanks

[verbal narwhal]

does EditData Data/Locations do anything if I just want to add a crap bot fish?

or can I (without any frameworks) just using cp specify which freshwater locations?

[hallow prism]

if you just want to add a crab pot fish that you obtain in freshwater locations you just need to set the fish data in data/fish

if you want it to be caught in mountain but not forest or whatever you would need to edit data/locations

[verbal narwhal]

thank you!

big craftable is a term/category, right?
it does not mean big in size/footprint and craftable.
so if I made a 3x2 furniture craftable by recipe might this also be prone to cause visual glitches without better crafting?

[drowsy pewter]

bigcraftavles are all 1x2 tiles

if you want a 3x2 item you can make a furniture

furniture is not a bigcraftable

so

yes it may not display properly unless theyve updated that

[eternal moss]

I am having trouble with Input events. I connected all 3 of buttons events (buttonpressed, buttonreleased, buttonchanged) to a function but none of them works. This is all the code I wrote in functions but still no logs!

private void OnButtonChanged(object? sender, ButtonsChangedEventArgs e)
{
    this.Monitor.Log("Pressed Button!");
}

helper.Events.Input.ButtonPressed += OnButtonPressed;
helper.Events.Input.ButtonReleased += OnButtonReleased;
helper.Events.Input.ButtonsChanged += OnButtonChanged;

[stark spindle]

is it just your log level?

[eternal moss]

do I need to specify a log level?

[lucid mulch]

the default log level is trace which goes into the log but wont show in console unless you are running smapi dev mode

[eternal moss]

Oh yeah now it works I didn't know that I had to specify log levels thanks for help

[hard fern]

🤔 does using a season token to edit tilesheets do weird things to indoor maps? im asking because my greenhouse map was acting Strange and not displaying recolored vanilla tilesheets and leaving them vanilla when using the Blue Grass Recolor mod, but not Earthy Recolor

or is it a thing that doesn't have anything to do with indoor maps and it's just because it wont be recolored since it's not the right season

[dapper crown]

I have a question regarding Iconic Framework - When you add an entry via CP that references a mods keybind, is it just the field on its ModConfig model that you need to reference?

The documentation for that is pretty lacking

[hallow prism]

i'm not familiar with this framework

you can see if there's examples packs or mod using it that do what you want

[lucid iron]

Are you trying to add your own mod or someone else's

[inland rain]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6586 Here Fishy 0.6 now has gender-detection and includes a VO by the talented VA Erin Kress! https://linktr.ee/erinkress

[dapper crown]

Someone asked for supporting it in my mod, obviously id go the API route instead, but i was confused since i do have a keybind for it but they seemed to assume it could only do method or parameterless constructor references

[opaque hornet]

I'm adding some things for a custom mod in GMCM however by default it's forcing titlescreen only, looking through https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/blob/develop/GenericModConfigMenu/IGenericModConfigMenuApi.cs the register function already forces titleScreenOnly as false by default, do I need to load things in a specific way or force a reload to sort it?

only GMCM config here:

        {
            
            var configMenu = Helper.ModRegistry.GetApi("spacechase0.GenericModConfigMenu");
            if (configMenu is null)
                return;

            dynamic gmcm = configMenu;

            gmcm.Register(
                mod: ModManifest,
                reset: (System.Action)(() => Config = new ModConfig()),
                save: (System.Action)(() => Helper.WriteConfig(Config))
            );

            gmcm.AddBoolOption(
                mod: ModManifest,
                name: (System.Func<string>)(() => "Lock Position"),
                tooltip: (System.Func<string>)(() => "Prevents the clock from being moved or resized"),
                getValue: (System.Func<bool>)(() => Config.LockPosition),
                setValue: (System.Action<bool>)(value => Config.LockPosition = value)
            );

            gmcm.AddBoolOption(
                mod: ModManifest,
                name: (System.Func<string>)(() => "Show Debug Info"),
                tooltip: (System.Func<string>)(() => "Shows position, size and scale information"),
                getValue: (System.Func<bool>)(() => Config.ShowDebugInfo),
                setValue: (System.Action<bool>)(value => Config.ShowDebugInfo = value)
            );
        }```

[lucid iron]

Here's a keybind type integration https://github.com/LeFauxMatt/IconicFramework/blob/main/IconicFramework/[CP] Toolbar Icons/data/EventLookup.json

Looks like you need to set the literal key yourself correctly yeah

[lucid iron]

What if u just pass in titleScreenOnly: false

[opaque hornet]

I'll try, was just assuming because it already forces in the main function call

[lucid iron]

Also I believe you are using the API incorrectly, copy the interface into ur mod instead

https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/TrinketTinker/Wheels/ModConfig.cs#L32

API https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/TrinketTinker/Wheels/Integration/IGenericModConfigMenuApi.cs

[calm nebula]

Oh man

Okay you're not using the older api, good, that was my first guess

[lucid mulch]

seeing dynamic as the type gives me some concerns

[calm nebula]

Okay, I see

Fwiw, the default param in the interface is never used in pintail

And the actual api instance defaults the other way

https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/blob/e867124afd8fb5f9eba88c40dac049bd73bc1c46/GenericModConfigMenu/Framework/Api.cs#L54

[lucid mulch]

looking at smapi code, I don't think pintail is used if you don't use the generic form of GetApi

[calm nebula]

It's not. You're right

Either way. The concrete class matters. The interface does not

Ah wait

I'm backwards as usual

[opaque hornet]

Yeah i was having some issues with adding an interface when SMAPI loaded so gave up after two attempts and used this implementation instead, the forcing title for it worked fine but I'll fix the issue and migrate to interface instead

[calm nebula]

If you use the generic form it uses pintail. The default is baked in by the compiler

If you dont use the generic it doesnt use pintail. The concrete class adds the default

[lucid mulch]

outside of the lack of <IGMCMApi> and casting it as dynamic, it looks identical to what I use in SpeedySolutions

[opaque hornet]

yeah makes sense

[calm nebula]

Approximately the first time someone has told me pintail'ed code makes sense

[lucid mulch]

at this point that quirk of pintail not respecting default values is now a load bearing bug turned feature

as a lot of GMCM mods will become title screen only if pintail fixed that

[lucid iron]

It's magic i aint gotta explain anything

[calm nebula]

I wouldn't say it's a quirk

In fact, i think pintail going with the interface (the part people copy) actually makes more sense

Like i shouldn't care what you do internally

The interface is the public contractor

Anyways

Enjoy the silksong y'all

I'll be off in spreadsheet land then chores land then more chores land then sleep

[lucid mulch]

I've been playing clue(do) against bots and osrs rather than silksong

[gentle rose]

so glad you guys ended up working together!

[hallow prism]

if i want to check if bus is repaired with a GSQ

i can use LOCATION_ACCESSIBLE desert to check for every case, rather than flags for CC and joja?

[agile flame]

IAssetEditor is outdated for smapi right

[lucid mulch]

yes

[round dock]

Erin is a fantastic VA, insta-download

[true birch]

For festival locations, do even year locations need to have a separate _y2 location in the code, or should the game use the odd year location if no even year location is specified?

For context, I'm playing an ultra-modded game and started cataloging where all the NPCs are at each festival so I can fix characters who are overlapping or end up in walls/bushes. I just started working on even year festivals and discovered that a lot of NPCs I was expecting at the festivals weren't showing up at all. All the characters not showing up don't have _y2 locations, so I want to check that this is expected behavior and not a bug. I did spot-check and other characters that are showing up all seem to have _y2 locations, but I didn't check very thoroughly. If I have a bug, I'd like to know so I can decide if I want to dig into why.

In other news, would y'all be interested in me sharing the catalog of NPC festival locations? Still working through all the festivals (and still adding mods) but it seems like it could be useful to other people

[iron ridge]

https://festivals.pillow.rocks

[obtuse wigeon]

Hey Pillow, if I find an NPC that isn't on the map, what would be the best way to request their addition to the map? would you prefer letting you know, or a PR on the GitHub repo, or not adding them at all?

[iron ridge]

sure a pr works

just make sure you format the things right

[obtuse wigeon]

ace good to know, thank you, I shall dw, there'll be a lot of figuring out your writing style beforehand to make the formatting work

[true birch]

Oooh, this looks like it would be a much better setup than what I'm doing, but it isn't loading properly for me. It seems to load up the Y1 egg festival, but then clears it and switches to "Select an option" and won't load anything I pick

[iron ridge]

yeah it takes a second at the start to hydrate

[drowsy pewter]

@brittle pasture Not a big deal if no, but any chance flavored cooking can also specify required amount of input ingredient?

[late gull]

If I'm using a condition "player.eventsSeen.Contains(EventId)", will players who have seen that event before installing the mod already meet the condition or will they need to view the event again after installing the mod?

[drowsy pewter]

events seen are stored in farm save data so it should be there before and after they install the mod

[drowsy pewter]

ahem "Wow, DH's new mod has some stellar artwork"

[hallow prism]

it looks more like a moon than a star imo

[gray bear]

...moon

-# #making-mods-art message

[gray bear]

u know i did consider just asking you for perms to use as the moon but was like "doubt that's gonna resize well"

[blissful panther]

Wow, yeah, somebody really talented must have drawn that!

[gray bear]

yeah, the art truly is incredible. would eat

...not the spooky ver though that one might eat me

[dusky sail]

oh because a tortilla getting revenge for all the time's it's been eaten would be so horrible (jokin)

[gray bear]

my moon-tilla is going to be displeased anyway

[karmic gust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/37360

My tortilla contribution

[gray bear]

gasp! tlt

tortilla loving tortilla

[karmic gust]

Omfg

Tlt I'm dying

[gray bear]

would u like me to showcase

[karmic gust]

Yes pls

[round dock]

This is even making me more hyped for your rival hearts mod ngl

[karmic gust]

I'm just polishing it up and hoping it'll be ready by next weekend! I ended up adding 5 more events than I originally had written, so now it's up to 14 haha. Maybe a little overkill but since it's just Pierre and Morris I really wanted to add a large story for them

[dusky sail]

Its never overkill if youre enjoying yourself

[karmic gust]

That's true. It's been a lot of fun! And I also feel like there's less room for leaving things to progress off screen since they're such bitter rivals to start

[obtuse wigeon]

If anyone knows Regular Expressions (RegEx) will this check /tortilla/i match anything that has tortilla anywhere in the name case insensitivly like I hope?

[red egret]

yess and they can have babies

[iron ridge]

might need the g modifier too

nvm if youre just testing no

[obtuse wigeon]

it's checking in the display name so as long as theres at least one match it's fine, multiple matches will have no use in this case specifically

Time to debug why it isn't working, regex is not a fun one to figure out, very useful however

[calm nebula]

It depends on the language

[obtuse wigeon]

oh no, I didn't know regex was language specific, that may make sense as to why it doesn't work

well no I did know but I hoped it didn't matter bc it would check internal names too, but mods aren't always written in english

[torpid ridge]

Is there a way to convert a spouse room made for TMXL to be used with Contet Patcher instead?

[iron ridge]

!converters

[ocean sail]

These community tools help update mods to newer formats or frameworks:

• Convert to Content Patcher from Custom Furniture, Better Farm Animal Variety (BFAV), Custom Music, JSON Assets, More than Necessary (MTN), SAAT, Shop Tile Framework (STF), TMXLoader, or XNB.
• Convert to other frameworks:
  • Pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
  • Visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
  • Hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
  • Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
  • Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Other tools:
  • Extract i18n for a Content Patcher pack
  • Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
  • Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode

To use this command, type !converters.

[torpid ridge]

Thank you 🙂

[verbal narwhal]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/2f973b008d114820b6a22f5821585a7c

can anybody please tell me where it expects an : instead of ,?

[tropic owl]

may i please ask what the tortilla mods are about? genuinely curious to see what sparked this in these channels

[verbal narwhal]

Im pretty sure it started when someone made the mod to right the wrong that was miscentered tortilla

[hard fern]

6480 brought up how the tortilla sprite was off center

And oclarina made a mod to center it .... And it just spiraled

[urban patrol]

line 25, combine both of those into one value without being separated by quotes or a comma

it’s space delimited so you can just have “item 1 item 2”

[verbal narwhal]

thank you so much!

[urban patrol]

oh wait no i lied sorry i see you’re doing that for all of them

missing open bracket line 28

(i’m on mobile and it’s hard to see, my bad)

also line 24 has entries instead of fields

[verbal narwhal]

oh but I made it like you said and i worked!

[urban patrol]

even with the missing bracket??

[uncut viper]

that file still has errors and will not work

[verbal narwhal]

where?

[uncut viper]

put it back in the validator

[verbal narwhal]

ia it enries for the individual names as well?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/374e8c37d46740b0b0025a39b53682fe

no idea why i was convinced it worked now

ugh

[urban patrol]

is it supposed to be entries or fields? you have half and half

also still missing that opening bracket

[verbal narwhal]

i thought the universal gifts were handled with entries, the individual ones with fields

[uncut viper]

the bracket is still important too like nic mentioned
And your values on lines 30,36,42, and 48 are malformed

They have an extra ": before the actual value

[verbal narwhal]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8a5c4ff28a03403d8d43c986825daed8

yippee

thank you so much

[cursive dawn]

hi guys newbie here, can i ask where do you make a pixel animation

[urban patrol]

!pixelart

[ocean sail]

Where to Start With SDV-Style Pixel Art
If you've never done pixel art before, don't stress! It's easy to pick up the basics - the key is to start small, ask for feedback, and incorporate that into your work.

To start, you'll want an art program. See a list of recommended programs in the !software command.

Here's some good beginner tutorials!
http://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299&PID=139322
https://medium.com/pixel-grimoire/how-to-start-making-pixel-art-2d1e31a5ceab

To start off, try opening an existing portrait and changing the outfit. Start small: edit a shirt pattern, change a jacket collar, or remove a scarf and draw the clothes underneath. Ask for feedback too! The best way to improve is learning how to identify what's wrong and why, so then you can work out how to fix it.

Here's more good tips from the artist of "Celeste":
General pixel art 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-art-1-6971422
General pixel art 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-art-part-2-11225146
Outlines: https://www.patreon.com/posts/outlines-14106192
Shading: https://www.patreon.com/posts/shading-13869731
Portraits: https://www.patreon.com/posts/portraits-8693396

SDV has a few quirks to remember too:

• Colour limits: Limit the number of shades you use - stick to six including the outline.
• Hue shifts: Rather than making shadows and highlights lighter or darker versions of the base tone, SDV shifts the hue too. Eg. a base orange will have yellow highlights and red shadows. This goes for skintones too!
• Light source: SDV uses a top-right & slightly forward light source - check the vanilla art for reference.
  Most importantly, don't hesitate to ask questions and get advice from people. Have fun!

To use this command, type !pixelart.

[urban patrol]

oh that’s not it

most people recommend aseprite

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[obtuse wigeon]

I am struggling with RegEx so much old, This ^[A-C] works and finds adds all items with the display name starting with A, B, and C. But this /tortilla/i does not match anything

Theres also a free online art tool called PhotoPea that has an interface like Photoshop

[blissful panther]

What are you trying to do with the regex?

[obtuse wigeon]

ItemBags supports adding items to a bag using regex, so I'm trying to add any item that has tortilla in the display name (case-insensitively)

[tiny zealot]

my guess is that C#'s regex syntax does not do the //i thing so you will have to look up the C# incantation for it

[obtuse wigeon]

that was the issue! thank you!

I've only ever used Regex in JS and Python so I didn't think /i speciffically wouldn't be compatible

[cursive dawn]

is it free?

[karmic gust]

You can compile it for free or buy it for $20

[cursive dawn]

ohh okayy, thank you!

[tiny zealot]

unfortunately, regex is like markdown and there are 3,000 not-quite-intercompatible implementations /lh

[obtuse wigeon]

I do love markdown but it gets VERY confusing, obsidian markdown, github markdown, and discord flavoured allways ahve differences that trip me up

[worldly wadi]

Hiiiiiiii againnnn
I’m currently drawing and rendering my mod’s houses and map but there’s something I’m stuck on.
They’re seasonal and I know there's a difference between the color palette of each of them, but I don’t know what it is. Like, what filter/saturation should I modify on my buildings in each season so they can aesthetically fit on the season’s color palette?
Idk how to put this question into words, sorry if you guys didn’t understand :<
I’ll add some images so it can be easier to understand.
The stardrop saloon in each season, you can see its colors change, what filter can I use to give my buildings this effect?
Sorry for interrupting you guys conversation, but I searched this everywhere on the internet and couldn't find the answer, since my question is, like, super specific.

[brittle pasture]

the problem is that the game can homf multiple stack of items for one ingredient slot, so if you require 5 fruits for your smoothie you can use 2 apples, 2 oranges and a banana

[tropic owl]

gotta love that, i wondered why there was such an influx. Thanks for giving me the answer shrimply!

[brittle pasture]

and I don’t have a good solution for that

[cold marsh]

How do you implement tinted crops (and I guess color masks in general)? I can't find anything relevant on both wikis. I saw a mod that adds one and it seems like the color mask for the ready to harvest sprite is one index ahead of it so I don't get it at all.

[brittle pasture]

for crops you want to set the TintColors field in the crop data

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Crop_data

the harvest item also needs ColorOverlayFromNextIndex set in its object data
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Objects#Appearance

[cold marsh]

Oh, I had no idea that existed. It's all making sense now

And the tint for the ready to harvest sprite?

I assume ColorTint also takes the color mask from the next index?

[brittle pasture]

a monochrome overlay next to the final sprite
look at the vanilla flowers for reference

[cold marsh]

I think I get it, thank you

[verbal narwhal]

what is the reasoning behind an empty.json?

is that like an __init.py?

[tiny zealot]

in order for EditData to work on an asset, the asset must already exist or have been Loaded

[latent mauve]

empty.json or a blank.json?

[tiny zealot]

in addition, you cannot use content patcher tokens in a Load action (CP does not parse the file contents)

so if you want to make data using tokens in a new asset that doesn't already exist (either vanilla or another mod's asset), then you must Load it first, then use EditData to put all the data in

[verbal narwhal]

oh im just looking at other cp packs with multiple assets and various [dataformat].jsons and I found a empty.json there

[tiny zealot]

the cheapest way to do a load that you don't care about (except to make your EditData work) is to load a file that just has {} in it. typically it's called "empty.json" or "blank.json" or similar

[verbal narwhal]

oh nice!

[latent mauve]

I've only heard them referred to as blank JSONs or blank.json, so I learned something new today. 😛

[lucid iron]

pathos put an empty.json in central station

[tiny zealot]

lacey has one, too

you can call your files whatever you want, is the thing /lh

[verbal narwhal]

im currently scared to start my content .json but this should only include the load and include actions, right? if I have outsourced every type of editdata to its relevant .json

[latent mauve]

Your content.json can include ALL of your JSON code if you want. Includes are optional and mainly used for organization.

Blank jsons are Loaded for the reason stated above, but nothing else really has to be split up, code-wise

[verbal narwhal]

ohh ok!

[latent mauve]

If it helps, think of an include action as saying "add the contents of the included JSON right here"

[oblique meadow]

I only use includes on big farms I make that have quests, and Minecarts, and events, etc. makes it easier to maintain instead of one big file

[calm nebula]

📦 .json

You can't stop me

[verbal narwhal]

the ID of a fish as item and as fish can be the same? or should be the same?

[brittle pasture]

they must be the same

[verbal narwhal]

ok good! The phrasing that they must be unique got me questioning that

but this is definitely a me problem, not a wiki problem

because I see how that means in the overall ID so that not two custom fish named fish get loaded

[latent mauve]

"Goby" is probably the best example if you want to look at the vanilla files since it uses the new string naming convention rather than the integers.

the ID is the same in Objects, Fish, and AquariumFish. 🙂

[verbal narwhal]

oh, so if my ID is {{ModId}}.Tadpole, in Fishponddata, I also call {{ModId}}.Tadpole and not (o){{ModId}}.Tadpole?

[latent mauve]

Any time the data calls for a Qualified ID, you'll need the (O) in front of it for the fish object. Otherwise, you can usually exclude it

[scarlet knoll]

Hi guys! (￣▽￣*)ゞ So, I've been trying to figure this out for quite a while and I'm stumped. It's probably something stupid, but I can't see it. I'm making a grass recolor that overlays, so it can work with other recolors. Everything's working fine, except for the Ginger Island tilesheet. It just won't apply and I dont' know why. I've triple checked the files and colors and I can't figure out what's wrong. Maybe something stands out to you guys? Here's the changes in the content.json:
"Action": "EditImage",
"PatchMode": "Overlay",
"Update": "OnLocationChange",
"Target": "Maps/summer_island_tilesheet_1",
"FromFile": "assets/summer_grass_Island.png",
"When": {"Ginger Island": true},

[iron ridge]

why do you have a When?

wouldn't the tilesheet only be used on GI

(where is the "Ginger Island" condition coming from?)

[scarlet knoll]

I'm working on adding options to turn off certain seasons. I'd like Ginger Island to be toggleable too, if possible. I'm still testing those, so not sure if it'll work in the end.

[urban patrol]

if you’re trying to use a config, look at the CP docs for more info

[scarlet knoll]

The config isn't the problem, I've removed it and the tilesheet still isn't displaying the recolor.

[urban patrol]

are you sure your target is correct? i’m on mobile so can’t look at unpacked content rn but i’m not sure it’s called summer island tilesheet 1

[royal stump]

(that seems correct, though I'm not sure how EditImage interacts with seasonal tilesheet names)

[urban patrol]

oh ok good

[scarlet knoll]

All the other seasonal tilesheets I'm overlaying are working fine, it's just this one for some reason.

[urban patrol]

!json can you post a link to your json?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[verbal narwhal]

does the new CP json want trailing commas or not? i am confused

[urban patrol]

also, are you seeing any errors in your log? are you testing with any other mods that may be patching over your patch?

[urban patrol]

trailing commas are okay but not required

[verbal narwhal]

Ok!

[scarlet knoll]

Here you go. I'm not great at coding, so it's probably not too good, but it works aside from this. https://smapi.io/json/none/09df33d8566e45acb8c4f8a053ddb4a5

[scarlet knoll]

Not seeing any errors. And I can't think of anything that would be patching overtop it. I tried setting the priority to late just in case, and still nothing.

[urban patrol]

you’re patching over yourself here. the second patch will overwrite the first—not sure which version you want or when

[scarlet knoll]

Can you not overlay two things?

[urban patrol]

hmm actually i’m not sure 🤔

let me check edit image docs

[scarlet knoll]

I'm doing that in the rest of the game.

I have a dirt mod that overlays brown dirt to the tilesheets, and a grass mod that overlays the grass to the same tilesheets, and they work togehter.

Maybe it's something with them being in the same file?

I'm gonna remove the first one and see if it works then, just so I'll know.

[urban patrol]

so it depends on how transparent your pixels are. any opaque ones will replace the underlying ones

[scarlet knoll]

Okay yeah, it shouldn't cause a problem then.

Okay, it's not a conflict with the other file. I removed that part and it still isn't working.

[urban patrol]

i do wonder if Season is conflicting with the way you named your configs

what happens if you do something like ConfigSummer instead

[scarlet knoll]

What do you mean? Like, what would I change to that? Sorry, I'm very newb at coding.

[urban patrol]

instead of naming your config options Summer, Spring, etc, change them (and every time they’re referenced) to something else. content patcher has built in tokens named like that and i’m wondering if they’re conflicting somehow

[scarlet knoll]

Oh I see. I'll try that.

[urban patrol]

also tangentially, is there a reason why you’re updating on location change?

[royal stump]

afaict, the patches work if they're set to "Target": "Maps/island_tilesheet_1",
so ig the seasonal tilesheet editing is an issue after all

[urban patrol]

oh weird okay

[royal stump]

I was expecting them to say "spring" internally or something, but Lookup Anything helped

[scarlet knoll]

Config names didn't change it. T.T As for the location change, I'll be hoenst, I'm not sure. I'm referencing a similar mod to try to learn how to do this, and they had it in the code so I assumed it was there for a reason. Referencing other mods is how I've been learning. ^^;

[urban patrol]

nothing wrong with that! as esca said though it looks like the maps are loaded to somewhere else

[royal stump]

if you wanted some maps to use the unedited sheet and some to use your edit, the location updates would help, but it may be fine to just leave it out in this case

[scarlet knoll]

Omg I think that's it!!

I saw it in the summer bunch and assumed that was it since it uses the summer tilesheets. Gonna try this now. Fingers crossed!

[royal stump]

the game's auto-replacement logic for seasonal sheets can have weird results sometimes

[scarlet knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/emily-stardew-valley-dance-emily-stardew-valley-dancing-gif-17597692725460945853

IT WORKS

Thank you so much guys! ^.^

[urban patrol]

yay!

[clever turret]

Is there a way to set an NPCs schedule to override them going to the island resort?

[urban patrol]

do you want to disable them going to the resort at all?

[clever turret]

That would also be good, but being able to do both would be ideal

[royal stump]

the schedule assets don't really control the resort at all, since they use custom schedules created by C# code, but you can set conditions for when they're allowed to go, with Data/Characters -> CanVisitIsland
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Social_features

[agile flame]

emily looks stuning tbh😳

that's a mod right there bro

[clever turret]

Lovely, so just set that to false based on the day for schedules that I want to "override" them going to the island?

[uncut viper]

you'd need to set it the day before

since NPCs are scheduled at day end

[royal stump]

yeah, you'll want to use GSQ conditions there, if possible (see the link on the page)

you can specify date ranges/etc to let the game know ahead of time when it's okay to randomly send the NPC

[clever turret]

So if I do DAY_OF_WEEK Tuesday, that would block them from going on Wednesdays?

[royal stump]

write Wednesday in that case, iirc
the conditions themselves use accurate dates, it's just that the game checks "Condition" the night before creating a schedule

so don't use CP tokens in the condition field, just GSQ options

[uncut viper]

(listen to Esca i was only half accurate bc i thought CanVisitIsland was a bool not a GSQ string)

[clever turret]

Alright, so if I wanted to use a When field in a content patch, I'd need to set it to false on Tuesday and back to true on Wednesday

[royal stump]

(it might've been at some point, and it was/is in Custom NPC Exclusions )
(which does still work for active edits, but I consider it deprecated)

[uncut viper]

theres no reason not to use a GSQ here if the GSQ can work

but yes otherwise you'd do the When condition the day before

(also by "no reason not to" i also mean "its better if you use a GSQ")

[royal stump]

it may also have different effects depending on whether players load a game on wednesday vs sleeping from tuesday to wednesday, iirc

so basically it's much easier to use one consistent GSQ in that field

[clever turret]

Alright, will do

Thanks bunches

[oblique meadow]

You guys ever just want to punch the Stardew code in its digital face?

[late pewter]

No? What happened??

WARNING: I AM CODE ILLITERATE AND MAY NOT ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND ANY GIVEN EXPLANATION.

That being said, If a rubber duck can be helpful to coders, by all means treat me like a rubber duck

[oblique meadow]

haha. Im jsut being grumpy. I can get the game to launch the fair minigames outside of the fair. BUt....the game mechanics arent working as expected.

Soooo

Im being mad

[gentle rose]

(is this the vanilla Emily or part of your mod? I genuinely can't remember and I'm curious )

[late pewter]

Ok so this I can understand and how that may be frustrating. Have you considered temporarily setting the date to the day of the fair by any chance?

[oblique meadow]

Like. I can get it to here. But I keep having a rock show up on my farmer sprite and it wont shoot anything

So im ALMOST there

[royal stump]

yeah, some draw layer code is contingent on location/etc

e.g. I'm still using some monster subclasses to keep them visible behind interior walls/houses

[gentle rose]

wdym?

[oblique meadow]

All I wanted was to have games on my boardwalk on different days. At this point I’m about to just build a framework so people don’t suffer like I am

[royal stump]

Mineshaft draw code for monsters is different from elsewhere, and in most locations, they don't draw above building/front layer, iirc

royal serpents have layering issues outside the mines & flyers in general are hard to see w/o patches or my old subclass junk

[drowsy pewter]

I see, I think thats fine then

[gentle rose]

oh interesting

[royal stump]

(notably, the mine switches the spritebatch's whole draw mode, draws monsters, then switches back...which affects royal serpent tails and almost nothing else, iirc )

public override void drawAboveAlwaysFrontLayer(SpriteBatch b)
{
    base.drawAboveAlwaysFrontLayer(b);
    b.End();
    b.Begin(SpriteSortMode.FrontToBack, BlendState.AlphaBlend, SamplerState.PointClamp);
    foreach (NPC character in base.characters)
    {
        if (character is Monster monster)
        {
            monster.drawAboveAllLayers(b);
        }
    }
    b.End();
    b.Begin(SpriteSortMode.Deferred, BlendState.AlphaBlend, SamplerState.PointClamp);

[gentle rose]

if you're happy to dive into some slightly arcane c#, I'm sure a lot of people would be very happy

I'd put minigames at a little above the average level of arcane that the game gets

[gentle rose]

(hey, that's fun, some menus do this too!)

[oblique meadow]

I’ve already got it letting me specify day of week and converting the tokens I would have won to gold and making that configurable

[late pewter]

How do I get a mod showcased?

[oblique meadow]

And I can put it on custom loaded maps

[agile flame]

anyone knows which tilesheet got the shrine of illusion in it?

[gentle rose]

I'm making a new menu rather than editing an old one though so my job is significantly easier than yours

[ancient hamlet]

Hello, I started modding today. I am trying to overwrite an i18n translation of another mod.
My mod depends on the one I want to overwrite and is even later loaded by alphabetic order. I put the translation in /i18n/default.json . But it does not work. The translation I am trying to overwrite is inside an event.
Am I missing something? I don't think i18n translations need to be registered somewhere..

[royal stump]

if you post your mod blurb here or in modded-farmers, anyone with the author role can trigger the bot to put it in the showcase

[gentle rose]

assuming it isn't nsfw and has no ai code, post here with a description and ask someone who's orange to showcase it

if it is nsfw or has ai code or art, no dice, not allowed in the server (I wasn't keeping track so I'm not saying this because I think you do have one of those, I genuinely don't know haha)

[gentle rose]

you can't overwrite i18n like that. you can overwrite actual dialogue lines or you can replace their i18n file with yours

[oblique meadow]

And they will know. (Somehow)

I’ve seen it haha

[ancient hamlet]

Oh. How do I replace their i18n file? Not sure if I want to do that or copy the event.

[gentle rose]

you take your i18n file, delete the one in their mod folder and put your one in

literally replacing the file

and you tell users to do the same

[ornate locust]

But you have to have their entire i18n in it

[gentle rose]

can you tell us what you're trying to achieve, btw? there may be an easier way

[ancient hamlet]

I don't have much faith in them following that advice 😄 But thank you very much. I guess its better to replace the event.

[gentle rose]

that's fair! replacers aren't uncommon but people do struggle

[ornate locust]

You don't have to replace the whole event if you just want to replace a translation or two in it

[gentle rose]

(that depends on how it was written, tbh)

[ornate locust]

Can't you just use a "Fields" edit?

[gentle rose]

events are a single long string though

[ornate locust]

I don't know how you'd write an event that makes one of those not work

But... you can still use a fields edit

[gentle rose]

can you?

[ornate locust]

this replaces one line in the CC opening

[ancient hamlet]

Well I am rewriting a mod to give it more options. What is a fields edit?

[ornate locust]

I had to do some counting, but it works

[gentle rose]

so it's using the 153rd / delimited section?

ty, I didn't know that

[ornate locust]

Yeah, I just counted until the part I wanted to change

[gentle rose]

which mod is this? you may need permission if you're hoping to publish it

[ancient hamlet]

Ooh I see. That is smart

[ornate locust]

I forget who showed me that one, and it does require a lot of counting, but it does work

[ancient hamlet]

I know, don't worry. I just started today. I will worry about publishing / getting permission if I actually make something

[gentle rose]

fair enough!

if they say no, you have experience and a personal edit, at least

[clever turret]

Does anyone know how does the box that appears at Pierre's when he goes to the resort works?

[gentle rose]

good question, let me check

[uncut viper]

~~replacesubstring when ~~

[lucid iron]

it's a C# thingymajig

[gentle rose]

you could probably get a similar effect using an owners entry and a conditional map patch though

[agile flame]

why can't i find the shrine of illusions i looked in all the tilesheets i think and didn't find it

[ornate locust]

Did you check Cursors? weird stuff hides in Cursors

[iron ridge]

cursors cant be used on maps in vanilla

[ornate locust]

Oh, well learn something every day

[gentle rose]

town interior

near the adventurers guild rug

[ornate locust]

Between the bear rug and Gil

[gentle rose]

and the dividers from the clinic

[ornate locust]

more or less

[agile flame]

your the best

weird place tbh

[gentle rose]

wdym

it's in the interior of a building

generally, that means it goes in town interior

[agile flame]

my point is there is a tile sheet called wizard interior

[gentle rose]

no there isn't? as far as I can tell, at least

[agile flame]

ig if you think of it that way its in the right place but what is the difference between wizard interior and town interior like why do you split a building

[ornate locust]

I think that's the wizard furniture you can buy

[gentle rose]

yeah there's wizard furniture, for the catalogue

[oblique meadow]

I mean… you kinda can… but it’s not pretty

[agile flame]

oh

makes sense mb

[gentle rose]

nothing in tilesheets goes in maps

anything used in maps is in the actual maps folder

[oblique meadow]

When I badly need cursors I just copy it to my assets and load it manually

😝

Hence ‘kinda’

[crimson kettle]

may i ask what is -5 and -6, i saw it when trying to convert a cooking recipe to CP

i can't search for the id in stardew valley vanilla id

[brittle pasture]

those are category numbers
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Categories

[pine elbow]

back

[brittle pasture]

-5 and -6 = "any egg" and "any milk"

[crimson kettle]

oooh tysm

[gentle rose]

I recommend using Arbitrary Tilesheet Access by button

[ornate locust]

Can I offer you a nice -5 in these trying times?

[oblique meadow]

Easy for you to say. You knew that existed more then 2 minutes ago 😜

[pine elbow]

so guys how do you practice programming

[iron ridge]

writing programs

[pine elbow]

as a beginner

ehat programs do i write

[iron ridge]

something you want to make

[oblique meadow]

Hello world

[pine elbow]

im such a noob

[oblique meadow]

The real answer is. Pick something you want to accomplish. Make it small and logical. Figure out how to get there, and do it

[pine elbow]

thatll work

[oblique meadow]

Then repeat. Either with additional features to little item A or something completely different

Keep building on what you know and learning more

And never assume what you know is the only way, or even the best way. There’s always a better way

[pine elbow]

any of you have adhd here

[oblique meadow]

I’ve never met a non neurodivergent good programmer

[pine elbow]

thank you for being understanding this stuff is tough

[tender bloom]

Throw a dart and you’ll probably hit someone neurodivergent in here lol

[oblique meadow]

Disclaimer for people who take things literally: don’t throw darts in crowded rooms

[pine elbow]

i heard reverse egineering a mod is a good way how do i do that

[oblique meadow]

You take a mod that works, and figure out why it works

Disclaimer: sometimes the developer doesn’t actually know why it works. Just that it does

[pine elbow]

so tod was right it just works

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[oblique meadow]

Lies developers tell:
I never Google, I just know this
I know exactly why it works and it functions exactly as designed

[ornate locust]

There's also "This doesn't work. It looks like it should, but it does not."

[oblique meadow]

I’m a fan of “ the code is fine, it’s how you’re using it that is the issue”

[ornate locust]

like using a simple movement and then a command to wait until the movement is completed? that makes them move twice the distance for some reason. Why? hell if I know, but I fought it for an hour

[pine elbow]

but will practice make me better

[ornate locust]

Yes

[oblique meadow]

It will make you less likely to yell at things and know how to tackle things

[pine elbow]

thanks im 2 months into this after finsihing tutorials and crap

[ornate locust]

And that's being better, knowing how to figure out how to do stuff

or who to ask if you get stumped

[oblique meadow]

This is why we need MySpace back

I learned coding designing my page back in the day

HTML and flash

[ornate locust]

I made dumb pages for Petz on Geocities

I would say I learned a bit while hex editing, but I was awful at hex editing, just the worst. too many number

[pine elbow]

2 months im still a noob

[agile flame]

Is there like a pedestal in the game like a furniture not necessarily an item?

[pine elbow]

i think indentation is what i struggle with most

[ornate locust]

Indentation?

That's mostly just to keep stuff neat and readable

also VSCode has this where it just does all the indentation and such for me to keep things pretty

[pine elbow]

i just use vs

[agile flame]

like you said learn something every day
now i can save some extra minutes to put into more coding yay

[ornate locust]

the pretty code button

[agile flame]

vs and vsc are practiacly the same but vs is bigger and if a feature missing it will be in a nuget prob

[pine elbow]

so vsc is more simple

[agile flame]

you can put it that way

[iron ridge]

theyre very different

[uncut viper]

i wouldn't say VS is practically the same as VSC

[agile flame]

but you can do some stuff more easier from vs such as making a dll

[iron ridge]

different goals, nuget's not IDE's plugins

[tender bloom]

If you are writing C# mods for Stardew, I would recommend VS. Otherwise no need, just used VSC or some other text editor to make jsons.

[iron ridge]

nugets are .NET libraries, not visual studio extensions

[tender bloom]

My advice here is specifically for Stardew, to be clear

[agile flame]

i meant extensions mb i can't even see clearly

[pine elbow]

hey guys did it take you all a long time to get good

[agile flame]

define good

that is the question

[tender bloom]

It takes everyone different lengths of time and there’s so many small details to everything. Maybe you know everything about fashion sense, but nothing about alternative textures. You’re still “good” in this case!

[agile flame]

it shouldn't take more than 10k hours that is confirmed

[tender bloom]

It also depends on what skills you come in with

[pine elbow]

so its okay if i take a long time

[tender bloom]

It took me maybe 2 weeks to absorb enough to edit an existing C# mod, but I’d been programming for a decade before that, for example

Yes, there’s no time limit

[agile flame]

unless you are late on debt then there is no time limit

[azure hound]

does anyone know offhand what tile data i need to input on tiles so that animals can't pass through, but the farmer can?
is that even the right terminology idk LOL

[ancient hamlet]

Does textAboveHead farmer not work? Is it just for NPC?

[uncut viper]

just NPC

well actually if you mean the event command then idk its just NPCs

might be special handling

[royal stump]

NPCBarrier as a boolean set to true, e.g. in the farm buildings
(and on the Back layer)

[azure hound]

thank you!

y'all are always so helpful

[lucid iron]

@merry rampart re: NPCBarrier, no it's not possible

this is not cus of mmap or anything, just that game literally only checks the map's NPCBarrier tile data so

[merry rampart]

alright thanks

[lucid iron]

otoh maybe u can do it with DMT(E)

[late pewter]

Question: How does one earn the Author role?

Wait, one sec, this is probably stickied somewhere

[soft lance]

!author

eh good try, thought I'd look cool

[late pewter]

Oop, I found it!

Ok, I think I qualify already? Maybe??

[soft lance]

That'd be great!!

[soft lance]

I have a question if that's alright! You seem to be one of the only people online in this channel at the moment, if I can ask in your DMs! It's about general question on modding, and since it seems that your a festival attendee, maybe it would be great to ask for your opinion on something! I swear it'll be quick! : )

And no, it's not a help question lol

[calm nebula]

Send @outer glacier a dm

[late pewter]

Sent!

[late pewter]

Ask here please!

[soft lance]

I would but sadly it's more of a matter regarding mod releases, and I need a personal opinion without being scolded here haha

I just wanted to get an opinion on my situation before anything

[late pewter]

Uuuhhh... ok sure, DM me. Not sure why anyone would scold you, unless you are making an new XNB mod or something.

[late gull]

I've been practising making new arcade games

But real question, how would I go about making the area outside of the gameplay bounds show the game world around the border?

[rigid musk]

tortilla...

[rigid musk]

Even then that wouldnt be scolding so much as 'please dont do that here's how you can fix it'