making-mods-general

[autumn tide]

(question about another topic so answer later ofc, but how could I set up an action to automatically trigger daily?)

[uncut viper]

thats what a TriggerAction is

if you set it to DayStarted

[autumn tide]

oh

[lucid iron]

It does help a lot if you have previous programming experience and previous art experience ofc, but the most important part is motivation

[autumn tide]

uhh can you send a link?

nvm found it

[mortal leaf]

I can do bare bones basic programming but yeah baby steps!

I can follow a tutorial essentially 😛

[lucid iron]

Also remember to decompile the game

[mortal leaf]

Why is that important?

[uncut viper]

there will be no tutorials for most of the C# stuff, fair warning

[mortal leaf]

I can read the docs and ask questions tho 🙂

I've poked at this stuff before

[uncut viper]

there are no docs for the game code itself

there are docs for data classes

[lucid iron]

Well again with water spirit, do you know what it means for a crop to be considered watered?

[uncut viper]

but once you're in C# territory you're doing everything yourself, more or less

[lucid iron]

You need to find this out and reading decompile is usually fastest way

[mortal leaf]

It'll at least be a good challenge then

[uncut viper]

and reading the decompile is the closest you'll get to docs for 95% of the game

[mortal leaf]

Cool gotcha!

Would decompiling my copy of the game break it?

[uncut viper]

no

[calm nebula]

(Fwiw, for a new skillet, i would use thr spacecore skills api)

Instead of trying to yolo it yourself on the skills page

[lucid iron]

Skillet

[uncut viper]

spacecore's skillet functionality was already recommended rest assured

[mortal leaf]

I do like the skillet except that it's not an item you hold, it goes in your powers. But between Love of Cooking and Binner I've got lots of references!

I have my decompile ready so I can tell you what watered means soon 😉

[hot gale]

lol interesting side effect of skipping around in time

Snowing in spring

[autumn tide]

is this formatted correctly?
tryna make it so that every night hearts are reduced with krobus, in order to make him harder to befriend

[uncut viper]

no

see the example on the trigger actions wiki page

[hot gale]

Also side not you can get VSCode to properly format your file for you, in terms of brackets, line breaks etc

!vscodejson

[autumn tide]

oh really? how?

[hot gale]

If I could remember the command I might be able to tell you 🤣

!jsonvscode

bah

been too long

[autumn tide]

😂

[hot gale]

!vscodejsonc

!vscjsonc

[ocean sail]

How to make VSCode not scream at json comments

In Visual Studio Code, go to File -> Preferences -> Settings, then search for "associations", and in the "Associations" setting, click the Add Item button to add an item with key *.json and value jsonc (see image).
If you are making a content pack for Content Patcher, you should consider using its json schema so that VSCode can tell you if your patches are valid, you simply have to add

"$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json"

at the start of your content.json file.

To use this command, type !vscjsonc.

[autumn tide]

YES

wait, i think thats for comments

[hot gale]

You can also set the formatter in VS Code to JSON, so you can hit liek CTRL+SHIFT+F and it will auto format it for you

[uncut viper]

that just makes it not think comments are errors

the formatter should work regardless

[hot gale]

Yeah I am realizing that now rofl different command I think

[autumn tide]

😂

[ocean sail]

@autumn tide You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[autumn tide]

yayyyy

[hot gale]

SHIFT+ALT+F in VS Code

You may need to install a JSON Formatter to VS Code

It's just infinitely easier to comprehend when it's formatted properly imo

Otherwise brackets just end up all like ]]}]]}}}

[autumn tide]

ye just still trying to format it , but I have a mac and for some reason they don't give macs alt keys

[hot gale]

Shift+Option+F

[autumn tide]

ty!

[gentle rose]

resharper strikes again with unhelpful suggestions (I may make this a record struct though)

[autumn tide]

alr, it looks like this now!

[urban patrol]

that's still not the correct format; visit [[Modding:Trigger_actions]] to see an example like button said

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Trigger_actions

[autumn tide]

sorry, still pretty confued even with the example

[hot gale]

It wont fix format errors btw, just show you the proper formatting

Makes it much easier to track down issues and make fixes

{
    "Format": "2.7.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_OnLeoMoved": {
                    "Id": "{{ModId}}_OnLeoMoved",
                    "Trigger": "DayEnding",
                    "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Host leoMoved",
                    "Actions": [
                        "AddMail Current {{ModId}}_Abigail_LeoMoved",
                        "AddConversationTopic {{ModId}}_LeoMoved 5"
                    ]
                }
            }
        }
    ]
}

[autumn tide]

I'm still super new to this, it'll take me a while

[urban patrol]

do you have specific questions?

[autumn tide]

I'm trying to make it so that every night, you lose a certain amount of friendship points with krobus, depending on your heart level

how should I do that?

[gentle rose]

where did you find this syntax, if you don't mind me asking? just so we can tell what needs to be explained

[urban patrol]

hmm let me think if there's a way to do that with tokens, because i'm sure my initial instinct of "make 5 different patches" isn't ideal lol

[hot gale]

{
    "Format": "2.7.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_KorbusLose1": {
                    "Id": "{{ModId}}_KorbusLose1",
                    "Trigger": "DayEnding",
                    "Condition": "PLAYER_NPC_RELATIONSHIP current Krobus friendly, PLAYER_HEARTS current Krobus 0 [2]",
                    "Actions": [
                        "AddFriendshipPoints Krobus -16",
                    ]
                }
            }
        }
    ]
}

Something like this I believe

replicated, of course

[autumn tide]

i just tried to mimic dialogue format

[autumn tide]

thank you!

[gentle rose]

I don't think $query works like that in dialogue, either?

[hot gale]

Repeating the "{{ModId}}_KorbusLose1": { entries

[autumn tide]

oh it doesn't?

Oh yeah thats the i18n thing

[hot gale]

That is the basic format you would use though

[brittle ledge]

If you want an actual example of trigger actions, you could open up the one in content and check the vanilla examples

[gentle rose]

an actual content modder should correct me but I'm not familiar with anywhere where you would use "$query ..." as a key

[oblique meadow]

Question. Just making sure I am reading the wiki correctly. So the IsGreenhouse with a T should make this map register as a greenhouse. Yes?

[urban patrol]

i know $query is a thing but i've personally never used it so i have no idea

[brittle ledge]

there's a query format but I don't think it's $query specifically, let me look

[gentle rose]

it is used in some places but idk when it would be the key of an entry

[velvet narwhal]

($query is meant for dialogue)

[autumn tide]

yeah, I was just wholly winging it, I know nothing about coding, just mimicing what i see

[uncut viper]

query is valid dialogue format yes

[gentle rose]

is it inside the dialogue itself, though, or as the key of a dict?

[uncut viper]

but the formatting of the rest after it is not

[velvet narwhal]

inside of the dialogue

[uncut viper]

its inside the dialogue

[gentle rose]

right, so my instincts were correct, ty guys

[autumn tide]

okay, I think my stuff should be fine then!

[uncut viper]

its the cause of my current strife with BETAS/possibly not BETAS

[velvet narwhal]

oh no, what happened

i've been MIA lmao

[urban patrol]

i love when someone asks a question and a C# modder shows up with "yeah i know all about [feature] because i have personal beef with it"

[uncut viper]

tl;dr query not returning true when it should

[velvet narwhal]

oh i think i recall this then, the thing with lumina that iro asked me to look at

[uncut viper]

probably

iro was acting of their own accord though i didnt know iro asked you

[gentle rose]

well I do not recall

and have no idea what we're talking about

[autumn tide]

i want to print that quote and frame it on my wall

my life story-

[gentle rose]

I do remember something with lumina that I asked avi about that ended up fizzling out but iirc it didn't have anything to do with queries not returning true?

[velvet narwhal]

oh not true the "actions after a query" yes

[gentle rose]

that was yet another different thing iirc

[velvet narwhal]

god

[hallow prism]

I dont remember details on that then

I do still remember the annoying delay in query stuff for unknown reason

Likely because this was yesterday

[gentle rose]

anyway. it's my bed time (or, it's an actually appropriate time to go to sleep in my time zone and I'm actually going to follow that for once) so night

[uncut viper]

i doubt parts of that but goodnight!

[gentle rose]

it's quarter past midnight and there will be an attempt

[hallow prism]

Yeah same than iro but actually its past midnight

[uncut viper]

goodnight x2 then!

[hallow prism]

Like an hour and quarter past here 😄

[gentle rose]

(we're nearly in the same time zone, lumina )

[hallow prism]

^^

Good night! Wishing you a successful attempt iro

[gentle rose]

night!

[autumn tide]

Okay, updated it, but ik there's something wrong w/ it since the 'mod_id_lose#' is not showing up as a key for 2-5
also couldn't paste cause message was too long :(

[brittle ledge]

!json use this for posting json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[autumn tide]

oh, okay ty!

[lucid mulch]

tl;dr you are missing commas between the entries

when vscode starts highlighting things in red that means you have broken the syntax and should start reading backwards to find the mistake

[autumn tide]

got it, ty! I have no clue how to code, really appreciate yall's help on here

[hot gale]

Most things in JSON funcion basically as a list

Commas ensure the list keeps goin

[sleek flint]

Hello everyone!
So I have a small problem here, I have these tokens, but they don't change if their values change. They only get registered when the game launches, and don't change their values after that, and when I tried to register them another time, SMAPI said that it has to be when the game is launched. So, what do I do?

_cpApi = Helper.ModRegistry.GetApi<IContentPatcherAPI>("Pathoschild.ContentPatcher");

_cpApi?.RegisterToken(ModManifest, "RandomItemId", () => new[] { _randomItemManager.CurrentItem.Id });

_cpApi?.RegisterToken(ModManifest, "RandomItemPrice", () => new[] { _randomItemManager.CurrentItem.Price.ToString() });

_cpApi?.RegisterToken(ModManifest, "RandomItemDisplayName", () => new[] { _randomItemManager.CurrentItem.DisplayName });

am I doing something wrong?

[merry rampart]

how do you make a custom outdoor bench something you can sit on? im not seeing a guide anywhere

[hot gale]

There is somewhere entirely separate that handles what makes things sittable, iirc

[merry rampart]

i found a thing for furniture but that's not what im looking for

nvm i think i found it

[hard fern]

everyone wants to make bench

everyone wants to make bench sit

[hot gale]

everyone always ask why bench

nobody ever ask how bench

[ornate locust]

Y'all all going through what I went through like a year ago now LOL

Welcome to HOW SIT

[latent mauve]

Data/ChairTiles for things that are part of your map and not Furniture

[lucid mulch]

those methods should be getting called again when tokens check for updates

[ornate locust]

Unfortunately, my Internet went out and I am on a phone now so

[calm nebula]

Ideally when benching you avoid dropping the barbell

[ornate locust]

My help capacity is more limited

[calm nebula]

Apparently if you do that it hurts

[merry rampart]

bench changes color when i sit and i have no idea why....

[ornate locust]

I am having severe deja vu

You need draw tiles. Your seat is using the default game draw tiles, which are for the original bench

Someone was doing this for that exact bench earlier today

[merry rampart]

i have no idea what that means

[ornate locust]

I explained it earlier, but I was not limited by my phone. Forgive me if this is slow. To start, you need to copy your bench to the right on the tile sheet. Erase the shadow of the bench on that copy.

This will be drawn over your character. Basically it keeps your legs from showing on this side of the bench

I need a sec to find the code you need for it

Thank God. Okay, this message I am replying to is about the previous bench, it has an example of the code you need to direct your bench to your timesheet and your new draw tiles

The second set of coordinates in that code is the tile your draw tile is on, the shadow-free copy.

[hot gale]

Ah yes thats what I was talking about earlier, I knew you had to define it somewhere

It's just been 6 months since I poked around with that :p

[ornate locust]

Doing this from a phone sucks btw

[hot gale]

yeah discord mobile search is something else

[ornate locust]

It just kept showing me my own profile

Not what I wanted, Discord

[sleek flint]

Well, it's not. You can take a look at my code to see if I did something wrong.

https://pastebin.com/sEytyMpn
https://pastebin.com/zcsJ5hsk

[tired matrix]

guys, i know there are animations we can use while talking w npcs using the $a, but, is there any way i can use a custom animation in dialogues?

[tiny zealot]

not really, yet. but someone is working on it

(you might be able to do it with spacecore but i believe it would be quite cumbersome)

[placid pond]

Question I don't know how to set a specific range of time (like, does the command line ["Query: {{Time}} >= 1500": true] stop after 1501 and then if I say ["Query: {{Time}} <= 1500; >=1700": true] would that work as one query, two or is it that I need to use a different thing altogether? And if you can point me in a direction where I can keep picking upon on this, I'd super appreciate it! I'm just starting to get into modding and it's a little overwhelming but also really fun

[ornate locust]

What are you trying to time?

[placid pond]

Asset switching to simulate a day-night schedule. I'm trying to mod the Golden Hour mod to suit my personal interest rather than just using a configuration file

[lucid iron]

You will need ontimechange update rates to use this

[naive sluice]

hello~ i modified another mod to work more inline with what i wanted, problem is i lack the means to compile it and im not willing to download anything on my crap computer atm. is there somone out there who might be willing to take my mod and compile it for me?

[placid pond]

I'm sorry but what does that mean?

[hard fern]

You need to have a line that's like "Update": "OnTimeChanged" or something like that, its somewhere in the content patcher docs

To tell the game to update your patch when the time changes to that specific time

...or something

[placid pond]

Ah, OK. I'll try that

[lucid iron]

Nah ontimechange just means "update every 10 in game min", but yes you need that if you want the Time token to do stuff

[placid pond]

Do I put that as part of the same sort of grouping?

[hard fern]

Ill be real i skimmed the docs long enough to know i needed that 😔 and not much else

[latent mauve]

The example from the documentation should help you to see where it is in the hierarchy:

    "Action": "EditMap",
    "Target": "Maps/Town",
    "SetProperties": {
        "CurrentTime": "{{Time}}"
    },
    "Update": "OnTimeChange"
}```

It's on the same level as Action and Target

[hot gale]

mayors can earn gold from their towns now :D

[naive sluice]

are any modders online who can help me with my problem?

[brittle pasture]

post your question

[brittle pasture]

or was it this one?

[naive sluice]

yes, it was that one

[brittle pasture]

ah apologies, I assumed you had a modding question; that specific task I can’t help with

but fwiw dotnet I don’t think is too taxing

you can download the runtime and run the build command in the command line

what mod is this out of curiosity

[lucid iron]

How do you know your changes even work if you didn't compile it

[naive sluice]

the mod i edited is 'crab pot jellies' i adjusted it so its more like 'crab pot other catchables'. and i dont hence why id like someone to compile it for me so i can test it

[lucid iron]

It'd be pretty difficult to fix things if you cannot compile and test yourself tbh

At this point you are basically asking someone else to do the mod

[naive sluice]

im happy to do the testing myself. just the compiling is the issue

[lucid iron]

Visual studio is heavy true but dotnet cli not that bad

[tiny zealot]

highly recommend using a computer that can compile your mods, for everyone's sanity. your iteration speed will be very slow if you have to send files back and forth across discord to recompile

[naive sluice]

unfortunately until my main computer gets a new motherboard im stuck with a backup computer that makes school computers look high-end. so im trying to be very careful with it.

[brave fable]

mm, unfortunately developing mods is a very iterative process, and if you're starting out (or if you're not) you'll likely be doing a lot of trial and error with a lot of rebuilds and retries

it's not realistic to expect things to work first time, and in truth i don't think anyone's going to volunteer to be a personal CI/CD service for you

[lucid iron]

can ur backup computer even run sdv then

[naive sluice]

yes, stardew is small enough for it to handle at least that

i havent been able to play marvel rivals for a month though...

[uncut viper]

(also the permissions of the mod dont allow us to do what you want us to do)

[naive sluice]

permissions?

[uncut viper]

the nexus permissions

[naive sluice]

nexus?

[brave fable]

both very good questions

[vernal crest]

The mods website

[uncut viper]

assuming "Crab Pot Collect Jellies" is indeed the mod. its the only one i found when searching for "crab pot jellies"

[naive sluice]

i made my mod with that as the baseline. im not the guy who made that mod

[lucid iron]

😔 precise furniture pls

[vernal crest]

Button is saying that if your mod is an edit of that mod, you're not allowed to distribute it

[naive sluice]

oh, thats fine i didnt intend to anyway

[uncut viper]

are you precisely placing plentiful puffer pals?

[vernal crest]

Meaning you can't send it to anyone to get them to compile it

[naive sluice]

? i can make a zip file without too much issue

[uncut viper]

thats called "distributing"

[hard fern]

Something something... Puffers lined up in a row...

[vernal crest]

No, you're not allowed to

[tiny zealot]

"can't" meaning "may not"

[calm nebula]

The puffers are not amused

[uncut viper]

you may not personally care about the licensing of the mod in question, but modders here do

so you're not likely to find someone willing to go against someones nexus permissions

[vernal crest]

And risk getting banned here in maincord for it

[hard fern]

Its against the rules of this server too isnt it?

[lucid iron]

precisely placed into the air

[uncut viper]

preposterous

[tiny zealot]

also maybe putting the cart before the horse, i can't picture anybody agreeing to be a remote compiler for somebody even with license

[hard fern]

What exactly are you doing with the puffers and why are they midair though

[naive sluice]

ok, i dont really get these strange rules on mods that have no monetary attachment but ill take your word for it. thank you for the advise

[brave fable]

unfortunately, money isn't everything

[lucid iron]

ok so i am doing some [harmony thing] to get the to stay in the tank, which is secretly a painting

but precise furniture is undoing my harmony thing with it's harmony thing

[uncut viper]

the code is someone else's intellectual property. it may be a mod, but its still a mod they created and they get to choose the rights that other people have to the code they wrote

[lucid iron]

thankfully it's harmony thing is also just a postfix, so this is fixable

[hard fern]

So like one day can i precisely place puffers into the void

[hot gale]

Cleaned up the UI a bit :D

[uncut viper]

Harmony.UnpatchAll(author.PreciseFurniture) ez

[zenith sapphire]

Guys anyone know which mod add a transforming frog npc?

[uncut viper]

ask #modded-stardew

[zenith sapphire]

Oh right sorry

[uncut viper]

no worries theyll just know better than us anyway

[lucid iron]

well sure, the bounds are indeed customizable

you can just make an invisible fish tank now in vanilla (cp) if yo want

[uncut viper]

the bounds of tomorrow... today!

[lucid iron]

normally ppl call this CI/CD, and hire an entire person to do it full time

[tiny zealot]

fine, but not randos on SDV discord for free

[lucid iron]

i think the social embarassment of sending over possibly not working code is enough to stop me

[uncut viper]

if you hire me i wont bring up that it doesnt work for an extra fee

[brittle pasture]

hey folks, friendly reminder to fill out the task tracker with progress updates before our daily standup, thank you

[hard fern]

I got scared for a moment because i thought i really forgot something

[calm nebula]

Ugh.

Finnnneeeeeeeeeeee

I curled up in a ball and meowed at someone today.

[hard fern]

Are you a cat, perhaps

[modest dagger]

that's a perfectly normal activity to do without being a cat

[brave fable]

are these sprites fine, or do you need them with the edge colouring/detail?

[calm nebula]

This amuses the heck out of me

[lucid mulch]

mild amusement coming from the bot that cant have the tag rather than a junimo

[calm nebula]

You know full well the governor can't pick favorites

He has to treat all his quaint little towns equally

[lucid mulch]

if governor wasn't picking favorites you would get exp boosts for having the tag be any of the other town discords too

[brave fable]

if one more person buys a joja discord server tag, i might just have to sell the stardew valley discord..

[hard fern]

whats the governor the governor of

[brave fable]

soup, mostly

[lucid mulch]

if it wasn't for the fact it would reset someone elses tag, I could make mine temporarily be joja

He is the govenor of the fergill republic right

the entire region of which stardew valley is one town of

[round timber]

ferngill is the country

dont think you can be governor of a country

[brave fable]

that sounds a little too formal to be schmoozing with a farmer over a bowl of soup on a beach

[lucid mulch]

why not, theres plenty of titles for head of state it could be governor

[hard fern]

i would assume he's the governor of stardew valley then

[lucid mulch]

but you dont need a governor and mayor of the same thing

[hard fern]

lewis is the mayor of pelican town

which is in the valley

[gaunt orbit]

Sure you can

[brave fable]

The Governor is the governor of the region that Pelican Town is a part of.
[citation needed]

[round timber]

me when the governor is the governor

[gaunt orbit]

Also isn't the region itself the titular Stardew Valley

[hard fern]

i would assume so

based on the intro cutscene

[inner harbor]

There's no roommate equivalent of Marriage schedule, is there? I'm talking to someone who wants to make Jas adoptable (when married to Shane) and I'd like her to leave the house sometimes, but using "marriage" in the schedule feels a little bit squick - even though it could as easily mean "when married to Shane" in my brain.

[brittle pasture]

marriage and roommates are identical in code

[brave fable]

the only official source i can find to the governor's actual role is from Sam, who pins him as 'some random old guy'

[inner harbor]

Oh I'm aware of that, its more just the use of the term anywhere in the mod that could be a bit offputting.

[hard fern]

well sam is always right

so

[brittle pasture]

it’s all internal anyway right, it’s not like it’s visible

[inner harbor]

Yeh, I know

[brittle pasture]

but I understand your feelings

[sleek flint]

I am re-asking this since there weren't a lot of active people when i did the first time.

So I have a small problem here, I have these tokens, but they don't change if their values change. They only get registered when the game launches, and don't change their values after that, and when I tried to register them another time, SMAPI said that it has to be when the game is launched. So, what do I do?

_cpApi = Helper.ModRegistry.GetApi<IContentPatcherAPI>("Pathoschild.ContentPatcher");

_cpApi?.RegisterToken(ModManifest, "RandomItemId", () => new[] { _randomItemManager.CurrentItem.Id });

_cpApi?.RegisterToken(ModManifest, "RandomItemPrice", () => new[] { _randomItemManager.CurrentItem.Price.ToString() });

_cpApi?.RegisterToken(ModManifest, "RandomItemDisplayName", () => new[] { _randomItemManager.CurrentItem.DisplayName });

[brittle pasture]

you can maybe petition pathos for an alias in 1.6.16

[inner harbor]

It's not so bad with Mr Ginger cos he's at least an adult cat.

[hard fern]

🤔 it's time for me to throw an npc at my mod. i can just replace the sprites with abigail for now i guess... i dont want to make side walk sprites rn

[lucid iron]

hm i guess you can make a Child version of Jas

adopt this Child via have more kids

but it'd be somewhat jank all around cus i dont expect people to use it like this

[inner harbor]

I think it's probably easiest overall to have her as a roommate NPC

the roommate proposal item can be an adoption certificate.

and we could make it only applicable if you're married to Shane.

[lucid iron]

yea void does that

[inner harbor]

(so you'd need Free Love)

[lucid iron]

i would prob wait for tedi poly tbh

[inner harbor]

Void?

[lucid iron]

not void but lavril right

she has adoption iirc

[inner harbor]

yep

Void's a Custom Companion.

For my animal companion NPCs like Valkyrie (Dale's service dog) she's going to be a MEEP animal inside the farmhouse, and I'll hide the NPC Valkyrie in busstop limbo so she can follow Dale when he leaves the house.

[hard fern]

🤔 who is ale

*dale

[inner harbor]

I might be able to get her to sit with him in the spouse patio too? I think I tried that with Abyss and it sorta worked.

Dale's one of the new Scarp NPCs, courtesy of Clown, who gave me the portraits and the brief background and also a bunch of dialogue.

[hard fern]

o i see

[brittle pasture]

by default CP only reloads tokens when you tell it to (eg on day change by default)

or on time change if a patch specifies it so

[sleek flint]

How do I do that?

[brave fable]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#update-rate ⬅️

[sleek flint]

Ohhh thank you I am gonna try it rn

[brave fable]

maybe better referencing here: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#update-rate

[lucid iron]

how do u debug urself into summit again

without being 'd i mean

[hot gale]

Whats the name of the map file that has the cave entrance? Im drawing a blank :(

[brave fable]

map or tileset?

[hot gale]

the tmx

[brave fable]

Island_House_Cave for the island map patch

unless you mean a different cave entry map?

[hot gale]

Ahh found it it was Mountain.tmx

derp

[lucid iron]

ah i accidentally perfection achievement oops

[brave fable]

certainly a much simpler answer than i was expecting lol

[uncut viper]

welcome to the club of people who have oops'd an achievement during dev (i have an illegitimate infinity weapon achievement )

[brave fable]

unfortunately, i only earned the 'cook 15 foods' achievement a month or so ago when actually testing a feature i added a year earlier

reader i did not cook 15 foods to get it

congratulations on perfection 🥳

[calm nebula]

Wow, modders really don't play this game

[lucid iron]

i have the infinity weapon achievement, from loading my 1.5 save in

i did have perfection in 1.5 too so i dont feel too bad about it

[hard fern]

i accidentally warped myself to GI and got an achievement for it

(this is what i get for textexturing warp totems)

[obtuse wigeon]

Does anyone know of a tilesheet set made by someone that has amsterdam style buildings? (tall, thin, terraced style)

[latent mauve]

I oopsed the Joja community center achievement while testing

[gentle rose]

but the whole point of CI/CD is that that person can throw an automated script at it in the hopes that it will save them time and effort while actually making it way more difficult for themselves!

[hard fern]

😔 i wish that were me, then i wouldnt have to actually do the joja route

[tame burrow]

Set up a skitty companion mod via trinket tinker and BETAS this evening. Gonna probably add at least 2 more Pokemon to it before I release it

[obtuse wigeon]

Aww that's so cute!

[mighty current]

been working on my own mod and haven't been able to get it to load - dependencies have a circular reference
i've tried searching the error message but haven't found anything. any help is appreciated :)
https://smapi.io/log/5867cc0849eb45bc89f0a8c9c32a1e1f

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.22631.0, with 4 C# mods and 0 content packs.

[hard fern]

can you show your manifest.json?

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[mighty current]

https://smapi.io/json/none/e77b39b47e4e413bbc38d5d1c3e4711a

[hard fern]

    "UniqueID": "uhlag.ShirouOgami"
  },```

this is a problem

you have your content pack for part as your unique id

[mighty current]

ah okay!

[hard fern]

it should be content patcher's id instead

(assuming your mod is a CP mod)

[mighty current]

it is

might i ask what the content patcher id is?

if you know it

[hard fern]

Pathoschild.ContentPatcher

[mighty current]

thanks! i'll see if that gets it to launch

[hard fern]

you can also just look in content patcher's manifest.json itself (or any mod's manifest.json)

to find the unique id

[mighty current]

initial error is gone, left with this

[hard fern]

send your content.json via the json validator again, but also what exactly do you have your files named as?

what you have in the FromFile and your file name have to match

[mighty current]

https://smapi.io/json/none/5e2b495a8bb34944869cf3f50d0d85e7

[mighty current]

they do match, does it need to be the full path? like from the drive

[obtuse wigeon]

Just from the mod folder (without the mod folder name)

[mighty current]

WAIT i figured it out om 😭

the path should be assets\data\dialogue.json not assets/dialogue/Dialogue.json

[hard fern]

oop

[mighty current]

wait, nevermind. the content.json has it correct on my pc

[obtuse wigeon]

Also as a side note, if someone uses your mod on linux, the filepath is case sensitive, It won't work if you don't have the same capitalisation

[mighty current]

great to know! they are correct with the capitalization

fixed the fromfile error, now it's just this

[obtuse wigeon]

What does your assets/data/dialogue.json look like?

[mighty current]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/5c7bdd53133845d6b6e6d3ed1e1ad126

was initially made with coriels npc creator, did 1.6 change the formatting?

[obtuse wigeon]

I think coriels is out of date and hasn't been updated for the 1.6 changes

[mighty current]

yeah i figured as much

[obtuse wigeon]

I think you need to wrap all the stuff in the dialogue.json with the changes field, sort of like this:

{
  "Changes": [
    <DialogueContent>
  ]
}

replacing <DialogueContent> with the stuff in the Dialogue.json

[mighty current]

like this?

[obtuse wigeon]

!npc Have a look at these links, they'll give you a much better guide for making an NPC for 1.6, specifically the top link

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[brave fable]

not quite, since Changes is a list of CP actions, not a dict of dialogue strings

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh okay, thank you for the correction blueberry!

[brave fable]

it'd be closer to```json
{
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Dialogue/{{ModId}}_MyFunnyNpc",
"FromFile": "assets/blank.json"
},
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Characters/Dialogue/{{ModId}}_MyFunnyNpc",
"Entries": {
// <dialogue stuff>
}
}
]
}

assuming you've got some file `assets/blank.json` with the contents `{}`, and that your npc is named `{{ModId}}_MyFunnyNpc`

[mighty current]

formatted the dialogue like this, now i'm getting a lot more errors

[vital lotus]

The error spell out what's the issue...

[brave fable]

do you already have a patch that loads and edits your character's dialogue then?

how are you using the file above? is it included, is it a fromfile, ..?

and what are the actual file contents

[mighty current]

it's a fromfile

[mighty current]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6b90064c3c8741e48927b8e7c289dc02

[brave fable]

is it a fromfile to an Include action, a Load action, or an EditData action?

[mighty current]

it's an include

[brave fable]

if it's for a Load or EditData action, you won't need to redefine the actual actions inside as i've done, and you'll just want the dialogue in a single {} object

[vital lotus]

Ur entries has changes. On line 11

[brave fable]

in that case use this

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/47e0b56ec45d4a3987ea38d492561de2

you'd accidentally included the "Changes": [ line from your last try in the Entries dictionary

[mighty current]

ah okay!

NO ERROR MESSAGE IN CONSOLE!

[brave fable]

by the way, you don't need to include $0 since it's set by default on all dialogue lines without any other $999 portrait number

glad it didn't not-work 🥳 but did it work

[mighty current]

it be working!!!!

[mighty current]

i celebrated too early. he's not spawning in

[brave fable]

do we have any CodeMatchers™ in chat

why is my codematcher```cs
// if (buffIconsToDisplay != null)
matcher.MatchEndForward(
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_S, 8),
new(OpCodes.Brfalse_S));

not matching the given IL
```javascript
// if (buffIconsToDisplay != null)
IL_029a: ldarg.s buffIconsToDisplay
IL_029c: brfalse.s IL_02e1

i've never actually used codematcher before but it looks useful

buffIconsToDisplay is arg 8 on a static method IClickableMenu.drawHoverText

[obtuse wigeon]

(What's a code matcher? is there something I can search to find out more? Tried searching google and in the game code but I didn't spot anything)

[brave fable]

codematcher is a harmony construct meant to help you assemble transpilers

normally i just manually match opcodes and operands myself and work with the indexes on the instruction list

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhh through the snippets of code reguarding harmony I've seen I can determine that it's basically magic

[brave fable]

but that's not particularly readable or maintainable

[hard fern]

🤔 quick q, when putting gsq in conditions can i just add as many as i want

[bold schooner]

I'm using the animal template by Aviroen, and I see some fields are optional according to the wiki.
Can I just delete the field, or should I leave it?

[brave fable]

yes and no, since there's a distinction between AND and OR when you're providing multiple queries to a condition.

this base game condition for stormy weather in summer is an AND, where all conditions must be met:
"Condition": "SEASON summer, SYNCED_SUMMER_RAIN_RANDOM, RANDOM .85"
and this condition for giving Sam his jojamart appearance is an OR, where it's true if any query is true:
"Condition": "Any \"LOCATION_NAME Target JojaMart\" \"LOCATION_NAME Target ArchaeologyHouse\""

[hard fern]

mine is just "all conditions have to be met"

so the first one?

[brave fable]

yep

[obtuse wigeon]

As long as any other fields don't require them (it will say in the field description on the wiki) and they're empty, ye it's fine to deleted optional fields, they'll be set to the default value when the game runs (the wiki often states what the default is too)

[bold schooner]

alright, thank you!

[hard fern]

ugh i should be sleeping not playing with content patcher conditions

[brave fable]

you swine i can SEE the il right there. what've i done that the matcher can't match it

[uncut viper]

is that a situation where youhave to actually cast the 8 to a short

also, are you certain nothing else is transpiling the method at runtime

[brave fable]

(short)8 and (sbyte)8 both fail in the same way

i didn't imagine it was relevant, since i can see the target IL is still right there

[uncut viper]

is it actually not matching at all, or are the results just not being evident/perhaps overwritten?

[brave fable]

well you can see the results in the image above, the matcher just keeps going to the end (2649) and marks it invalid

[uncut viper]

and idk if its relevant do i look like ive ever used real debugging tools

[brave fable]

i should mention the program is paused on the following line, immediately after the match fails

[gentle rose]

is matchendforward the one you want to be using in this context

I can't remember which does what

[uncut viper]

match end forward will march forward from where your matcher is set to and, if match found, set your matcher to the end of the match

[brave fable]

this one matches (the given code) end (of the code i'm matching) forward (from the current position towards the end of the il)

but as i said i've never used codematcher before

[uncut viper]

what if you try:

matcher.MatchEndForward(
  new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Ret),
  new CodeMatch(op => op.IsLdarg),
  new CodeMatch(Brfalse_S)
);

[brave fable]

that does match

[uncut viper]

does it match if you make the ldarg 8 codematch into ldarg 9

[brave fable]

yes

new(op => op.IsLdarg() && op.OperandIs(8))

thank you for the suggestion

[uncut viper]

thats an 8 and not a 9 but happy to help anyway i dont know what the deal is there

[brave fable]

well i wanted ldarg.s 8 but apparently OpCodes.Ldarg_s, 8 isn't it

[uncut viper]

but op.OperandIs(8) does work?

[brave fable]

yeah it was the operand

[uncut viper]

cuz i meant goin back to new(OpCodes.Ldarg_S, 9) but if the operandis 8 thing works then sure

[brave fable]

new(op => op.Is(OpCodes.Ldarg_S, 8)) also works

[uncut viper]

fucked up

[brave fable]

wisdom

[mild furnace]

seeing transpilers is so odd to me

[brave fable]

see previously i ran into this filth
op => op.opcode == OpCodes.Stloc_S && op.operand is LocalBuilder local && local.LocalIndex is 6

somehow i thought this would be different

[uncut viper]

i mean ive never had a simple Ldarg match like you had originally fail on me like that

maybe there's something to take away from that

[gentle rose]

I've had to do this before and I hate it

[brave fable]

ah here we go

codematcher just suppresses the cast error, i'd tried with short and sbyte, but using int i = il.ToList().FindIndex(match: (CodeInstruction ci) => ci.opcode == OpCodes.Ldarg_S && (byte)ci.operand == 8) gives a match, and so does ```cs
matcher.MatchEndForward(
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_S, (byte)8),
new(OpCodes.Brfalse_S));

but at the same time this matches just fine```cs
matcher.InsertAndAdvance(
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_S, 8),
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_S, 9),
new(OpCodes.Ldloc_2),
CodeInstruction.Call(typeof(SkillBuffPatcher), nameof(SkillBuffPatcher.GetHeightAdjustment)),
new(OpCodes.Stloc_2));

oh to be a lone ldstr "asd" floating in a sea of il

[uncut viper]

oh that first snippet is how i thought you did it when i suggested it lol

[brave fable]

well that's what i did, i just used short (as you suggested) and sbyte (as i expected)

[uncut viper]

id be surprised if the second one matched though given that its not matching anything

[brave fable]

you right.

may have been looking at this for a while

[vernal crest]

Do trigger actions run in the order they're listed in the data (if they're using the same trigger)?

[uncut viper]

yes

unlike most other Data/* assets, Data/TriggerActions is a list, thus it has an order

this also means you can use MoveEntries on Data/TriggerActions entries

[vernal crest]

Will their conditions update between one running and the next? So if trigger action B has a condition based on trigger action A that stops it from running if A has run, will B be stopped in time if they have the same trigger?

[uncut viper]

yes, the conditions are checked when the trigger is checked

[vernal crest]

Thanks. I think that means I've done something wrong.

Ah yes of course I have

I have no clue why I thought this would ever work lol

(I have misguidedly created a trigger action that will tell the player there's no animal to photograph if any animal they own is not nearby or if they have ever photographed any of their animals, rather than only checking if there's no eligible animal nearby. Whoops.)

Oh no, and I just realised that if I switch to one trigger action per animal it's going to give the player the HUD message once per animal instead :/ So that's not a fix. Hmm.

@merry rampart Can you share your Data/ChairTiles patch code, please?

[merry rampart]

      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/ChairTiles",
      "Entries": {
        "summitbench_spring/0/0": "3/1/up/summitbench/0/0/true"
      }
    }```

this solves the problem of it changing color but then my feet show

[gray bear]

is "summitbench" correct

[merry rampart]

what should it be?

just bench?

[vernal crest]

You haven't specified the tilesheet from which to take the drawtiles, so when seasonal is set to false it's trying to get its draw tiles from Tilesheets/ChairTiles.

Yes, just bench.

[gray bear]

your tilesheet is just a shadowed and unshadowed bench right

[merry rampart]

its on the same tilesheet

yeah

[gray bear]

yeah gotta say

[vernal crest]

summitbench is invalid which makes the game ignore it

[gray bear]

after the seasonal thing you need to specify the custom tilesheet or it will just yoink chairtiles

[vernal crest]

You need to change that true to false and then add another field next to it with your tilesheet path (which would be Maps\\tilesheetassetname)

[gray bear]

            "LogName": "Add ChairTiles for custom tilesheets",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/ChairTiles",
            "Entries": {
                "spring_SummitBench_Edit/0/0": "3/1/up/bench/3/0/false/Maps\\{{season}}_SummitBench_Edit",
            }
        },```

[merry rampart]

its not in map

im not putting it in maps

[gray bear]

whenever it is then

[vernal crest]

It has to be so you can use it in your map though?

[merry rampart]

it's attatched to the sheet itself

map i mean

[vernal crest]

In order to use chairtiles, you'll need to put it in maps or try using internalassetkey

By "attached to the map" I assume you mean you're just keeping it in the same folder as the map

[merry rampart]

yeah

[vernal crest]

If you want it to be targeted by CP for any reason, you need to Load it.

Otherwise, try "summitbench_spring/0/0": "3/1/up/summitbench/0/0/false/{{InternalAssetKey: assets/tilesheet.png}}" (replace "assets/tilesheet.png" with the actual folder and file path)

[merry rampart]

that doesnt work

feet still show

[vernal crest]

Oh, did you fix the summitbench bit

[gray bear]

draw layers should be

3/0

[uncut viper]

an internal asset key will have forward slashes in it

[gray bear]

since you're using the same tilesheet as me

[merry rampart]

i did

but feet still show

[vernal crest]

Feet showing wasn't an issue that you had was it Bea?

[gray bear]

nope

[vernal crest]

Can you show a screenshot please Jen?

[vernal crest]

I wonder if just "summitbench_spring/0/0": "3/1/up/bench/3/0/false/summitbench_spring" might work

[gray bear]

did have this happen but my draw layers were not right

[merry rampart]

that just made smpai spit yellow

[vernal crest]

Did you copy my corrected one or the one I had incorrect twice by mistake?

[uncut viper]

summitbench_spring would have to be something Loaded to the content pipeline

[vernal crest]

(I don't have much hope that this will work, I think you do have to Load it.)

But Loading is not difficult.

[merry rampart]

ugh

i really didnt want to have to laod it

[vernal crest]

Why?

[gray bear]

internal asset key won't work?

[merry rampart]

just a bit more code to clutter up an already cluttered content.json

[gray bear]

where exactly is your tilesheet jen? exact folder locoation

[merry rampart]

i didnt even want to make a new bench in the first place

[vernal crest]

Well, you could always try Lumi's suggestion.

[merry rampart]

its in assets

i tried adding grass behind it but didnt like it

sigh

cant win with this

[vernal crest]

(And you can always use Includes if you want to tidy your content.json)

[merry rampart]

ill just load it

[gray bear]

assets/summitbench_spring.png ?

[merry rampart]

yeah

[vernal crest]

As Button pointed out, the forward slashes will break it

[gray bear]

"summitbench_spring/0/0": "3/1/up/bench/3/0/false/{{InternalAssetKey: assets\summitbench_spring.png}"

[uncut viper]

no, InternalAssetKey will give it forward slashes

[gray bear]

ohh

is there a way to get around that

[merry rampart]

alright i loaded the thing in and now it works as it should

[uncut viper]

not without putting your mod at risk of breaking in any SMAPI update and it being your fault for using undocumented behaviour
(and it might not even work anyway)

[gray bear]

understandable

thank you button

[versed wyvern]

@uncut viper Hey there Button, does this still look like the correct syntax for using BETAS' DialogueBox action in a map tile?

"Action": "Spiderbuttons.BETAS_Action Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox Bouncer Characters/Dialogue/Bouncer:coff None",
I was gonna do a last test of my coffee machine mod and noticed that though the mod still functions, the Bouncer's portrait is now showing even though the None parameter is set and SMAPI's got an error saying [Button's Extra Trigger Action Stuff] No asset found with name 'None'

[uncut viper]

is that something that only changed in the most recent BETAS updates?
(also while unrelated, you don't have to use the Action map action, since all BETAS actions are registered as both touch and tile actions as well as trigger actions. ergo you can use the portrait action directly)

(and by portrait action I mean dialogue box action)

[versed wyvern]

I'm not sure at what point it changed, I think I only last tested it when map actions were added and I successfully moved it off of Spacecore's touch action command

[uncut viper]

i don't see anything in the BETAS code checking for None so I admittedly don't actually know why the docs say that

I can fix that after I wake up though

[versed wyvern]

That was supposed to be the function added in version 2.9.1 by the looks of it

[uncut viper]

Non zero chance I added it, updated the docs, then broke something else and reverted my uncommitted changes not realizing it reverted the dialogue box changes

Remind me in 8 hours to fix the thing

[patent lance]

😏 (#6830919) (8h | <t:1755885661>)

[versed wyvern]

In the meantime I'll see if I can verify when it stopped working

[uncut viper]

January 8th, it seems, where I inexplicably changed the code so that "null" no longer removed the portrait and instead made it use the default portrait

No idea why I changed this or where "None" came from, which has never appeared in the DialogueBox code

[versed wyvern]

Evidently I may have never actually tested the machine again after reading the change note about None, just replaced "null" and then forgor

But it seems like the Portrait parameter just isn't working to begin with since putting in NPC names isn't working either

[uncut viper]

Yeah looking at the history the docs were correct up until 2.13.0 too, where I"Fixed DialogueBox action using an NPC's internal name in cases where it should use a display name instead."
nothijng to do with portraits
Genuinely no idea what was going on with me here

putting in just an NPC name never worked though and isnt supposed to

for the portrait

it takes a texture asset name

it'd be Portraits/NPCName if anything

[versed wyvern]

Ah, okay, my mistake there

[uncut viper]

I guess I just intended to change Null to default to the NPC portrait (thats a breaking change, why would I do that?) and implement the new None thing and just never did.... and no one else has noticed for 8 months

Which is surprising since its not like DialogueBox is a niche traction

but yeah Ill fix it when I wake up I need to stop delaying getting to bed now

thank you for bringing it to my attention!

[versed wyvern]

Sleep well!

[mighty current]

been making a custom NPC and game boots fine, mods load, but when i make a new save i get an error with loading him in
https://smapi.io/log/86fb48c30b6f4817bdafa9bc5eee382a

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.22631.0, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[mighty current]

any help appreciated!

[obtuse wigeon]

Can you send which ever file loads the portrait using the json thing

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[mighty current]

which file would that be?

[vernal crest]

How many .json files do you have?

[mighty current]

seven

[vernal crest]

Then send through a link to your content.json and any that have to do with your NPC's appearance and/or Data/Characters info

[mighty current]

https://smapi.io/json/none/073f9de8a631421fb782e688268ce2a9
content.json

[vernal crest]

Okay don't need any more

You've loaded the portrait and sprite to {{ModId}}_NPCName instead of your NPC's actual name

[mighty current]

ah okay!

[vernal crest]

The Target should be Portraits/{{ModId}}_ShirouOgami and Characters/{{ModId}}_ShirouOgami

[mighty current]

sprites are a little messed up (i'll re export them later) but he's here now

thank you for the help!!

[gray bear]

you can add messages to a map without using map strings right? was it edit map?

[vernal crest]

What do you mean by "without map strings"?

If you want it translatable, you should be using map strings I think.

[gray bear]

would just using i18n not help?

[obtuse wigeon]

(is map strings the "Action Dialogue" property in Tiled?)

[gray bear]

Action Message iirc

[vernal crest]

So what are you wanting to do if not map strings?

Action Dialogue?

Action Dialogue doesn't use the StringsFromMaps asset, you just write the desired message directly in the action. If you do that in Tiled, it can't be translated. I guess if you do it using CP's EditMap then you could use i18n to make it translatable.

[gray bear]

ooh, i see. and does it show the same as action message? (little text box)

[vernal crest]

It's a generic dialogue box, so I'm guessing it's bigger?

[gray bear]

i'll do a little experiment

[obtuse wigeon]

I think Action Dialogue also allow the command things that you can put inside dialogue like @ for the players name (If I remember that correctly)

(also token not "command things")

[gray bear]

is this how u do?

just wanna see the difference really. i know i need to do it via editmap

[vernal crest]

Yes but you will need to put a real key in your Message one for it to work

[gray bear]

i got that key from the busstop map

[vernal crest]

Did you copy and paste it?

[gray bear]

oh wait i need a dot

should've just copied

i didn't make it interactable i think? doesn't seem to do much

do i like, need something there to interact with? yeah that makes sense

[vernal crest]

Yeah you need a tile on the right layer

[gray bear]

they just look the same. does @ for player name not work on map edits in tiled?

[vernal crest]

This is ringing bells for me. I think I found that Action Dialogue does not take tokens. I even made a messy mod to test them all thoroughly but didn't do the actual testing.

[gray bear]

the wiki uses tokens. is it misleading me?

[vernal crest]

Yes, I think so

[gray bear]

damn, well. i don't wanna use tokens, but i suppose i could do map strings since that's how vanilla does it

[vernal crest]

Yup, looks like I planned to test but didn't write down what I'd learned so far, silly me

[gray bear]

am i doing this currectly? i'll i18n later

block before it cause prolly important haha

[vernal crest]

Looks ok to me, is it not working?

[gray bear]

oh i haven't tested yet, im just never 100% on my formatting. i will now, thank you 💜

[vernal crest]

Surely it's faster to just save and patch reload than to ask and wait lol

Wait no, wrong Target

There's no Data/StringsFromMaps

It's Strings/StringsFromMaps

[gray bear]

Ah! thanks

im so good at words, as usual

does high areas make telescope do anythign special

[blissful panther]

<Insert plug for MEEP so you can actually bring up an image of the sky here. >

I don't believe so, though? It's a distance away from the town though, so the light pollution will be lower, so more visible.

[gray bear]

i wonder what maru's telescope one is. and ooh thank you that helps

welp finding maru's one is hard uhh

would it be in mountain

sciencehouse aint it

[obtuse wigeon]

If it's the sprite youre looking for I think its in outdoor tilesheet

[gray bear]

nah i want the value

[obtuse wigeon]

and the map its in is mountain.tmx

[vernal crest]

Just look at the map

[gray bear]

alr i'll find it there

[calm nebula]

Technically the air is thinner

[gray bear]

oh, i couldn't find it because it doesn't, have any

[gray bear]

would that be good for looking trough a telescope?

[vernal crest]

Weh I don't want to have to change my i18n key naming convention but it also seems ridiculous to add a new local token just to preserve it.

I will compromise by changing my naming convention but having a sook about it in the comments of the default.json

[calm nebula]

Good morning!

[calm nebula]

Technically yes but I'm not sure it matters for a small telescope like so

Ask the lovely Kailey

[blissful panther]

Yeah, the answer probably changes a lot depending on if it's a refractor or a reflector... and that definitely looks like the former!

[nimble marlin]

with the edge colouring/detail please ^^

[brave fable]

so are the ones on the right good? i worded the original message pretty badly lol

[lucid mulch]

Telescopes like mountains for a mix of factors.

1. Avoiding light pollution from the rest of civilization.
2. If its a radio telescope, they also like being away from all the RF noise as well.
3. For optical, the higher altitudes mean less atmosphere between the telescope and outer space so it will distort the image slightly less.

Relevant Tom Scott video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqRREz0iBes

[obtuse wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-scott-shale-tom-scott-shale-shale-quarry-shale-rock-gif-8912446480520892624

"I'm in the Stardew Valley Discord Server"

[calm nebula]

We're all nerds here

[gray bear]

me telescope itty bitty

i jsut want some nice flavor text

[mortal leaf]

Okay bear with me here folks! I've been digging around a bit. I want to make a spellbook that casts both utility and combat spells - does that make it a weapon or tool? Would either work, since you can hit baddies with tools anyway?

[lucid mulch]

the factors that make large telescopes want those conditions would also affect a small one

[gray bear]

eh?

maybe clear is a better word

[tiny zealot]

"clear" is better, i think. also advocate to remove "you look through the telescope"

[gray bear]

yeah it seems clunky

[obtuse wigeon]

You had the same Idea as I (Except I lack to skills to do it), I would suggest tool because you can't accidentally delete them where as weapons you can trash them

[gray bear]

gimmie editing assets all day but like, words?! no

[mortal leaf]

Great thinking I appreciate that

[mortal leaf]

I also lack the skills! LOL

I have a blank project and then I'm just staring at like 3 other completed mods to use as examples

I'm like.... I know I can puzzle this out man.

[obtuse wigeon]

Coding basically is just a jigsaw with words, except sometimes it can turn into chess at random

[tiny zealot]

all i really know about tools is to be careful about them. they're funky and if you subclass them you can explode the save serializer (although that's true of anything you subclass)

[mortal leaf]

I'm gonna take that warning... And do that anyway probably

I dunno what that means but it's totally under control I'm sure of it

[gray bear]

[mortal leaf]

Better idea, it's not a tool or a weapon

It's a fucking prop

[obtuse wigeon]

If you want an alternative to a tool or weapon, you could make it an equipable item instead, clothes, ring, trinket, and set a hotkey that works only when the magic item is equipped

[mortal leaf]

I'll write my own Stardew tool with hookers and booze

[tiny zealot]

spacecore includes a save serializer extension... thing where you register your subclasses with it and it handles the nasty part for you, but then you have to depend on spacecore

(most people do not consider that a downside)

[mortal leaf]

I am depending on spacecore for custom skill already 😄

so this will work

Ily spacecore

[obtuse wigeon]

Then certainly go with SpaceCore (praise SpaceCore)

[mortal leaf]

All hail Spacecore!!!

[tiny zealot]

i will not hail spacecore

[mortal leaf]

That's alright

[obtuse wigeon]

it tends to be the first framework mod i look through the docs of to find if it does something, especially because it's pretty well used like content patcher

I dread to think of the day where these major frameworks stop getting updated for any reason, so much could break

[mortal leaf]

Don't even dare speak it!

Thank you so much again guys, I'm gonna go stare at this blank doc! I'll lyk when I have something 😛

[nimble marlin]

like this:

sorry for my bad english, sometimes I have trouble trying to express myself lol

[inland rain]

I think the open world is ready for testing (still full of bugs surely)

grass, bushes, and forage are working

[obtuse wigeon]

Yay! is it a closed test or open to public?

[gray bear]

so it appears blue grass recolor makes the telescope into a snowman in winter

so now it's talking to you

nvm that, is vanilla

fascinating.

time to change it when it's winter

[versed wyvern]

Makes total sense, the snow was born when the skies were cloudy

[gray bear]

i'd like to think the telescope is just, under the snowman

[obtuse wigeon]

I love the idea of a talking snowman ngl

[gray bear]

undertale moment

great, more words i need to write

in vanilla it's just gone

wait

my edit isn't applying

lmao

[somber canopy]

nah somebody just built a snowman around the telescope

[gray bear]

that's just how vanilla is. it becomes one

alright my custom tilesheet broke and i am confused.
https://smapi.io/log/eab2dd01cdf04431bd3f1bb6aceb2d1e

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 22 C# mods and 4 content packs.

[gray bear]

wait- i see now

[brittle ledge]

Lumisteria's is the only tilesheet I know with buildings, but they might be what you want?

[obtuse wigeon]

I did end up finding them in the end but they weren't quit tall enough for the end goal but they did for a proof of concept

[brave fable]

available tilesets are few and far enough between already, it's a brave ask wanting one with a specific theme

simple terraced houses doesn't sound too bad for practice though, i'd recommend giving it a shot and seeing how far you can get

[cold marsh]

How do you invert ANY GSQs? ! on the ANY or ! on the conditions inside?

[obtuse wigeon]

They really are few and far between and I totally get that, especially when the authors have worked hard on making them, It's a shame my program to dynamicly create them is coming along so slowly (entirely bc I can't make textures for the life of me)

[inland rain]

it will be on nexus! all my mods are in alpha anyway, so it will fit right in!

also I think I fixed the stutter on moving chunks! Black magic caching, building, and loading, it's kind of crazy

[tiny zealot]

!ANY should work but you can also remove the any and negate each condition if you prefer

[obtuse wigeon]

I can't wait to give it some rigorous testing!

[cold marsh]

I see, thanks

[inland rain]

one min I'll put it up now

[tiny zealot]

(you may prefer to do so if it reduces the amount of quote hell you are in)

[oblique meadow]

This game structure is so weird.
Want to turn Robin into a swearing one eyed pirate? Super simple. Want to sit on a log? It’s frustrating.

[lucid iron]

Chair tiles 3.0 the revenge

[hard fern]

I like how everyone is fighting the chair devil

[oblique meadow]

I don’t even NEED to fight the chair devil. I just want to

Because it makes sense on the map I’m working on

[gray bear]

fight the chair

[vernal crest]

Well you can feel free to join the parade of people asking for help with chairtiles in the last 24 hours lol

The info is fresh in our minds

[obtuse wigeon]

In the entire time I've been in the server I've seen maybe one person asking about chair tiles, whereas in the last day theres been a MASSIVE influx, changing seasons has got us thinking about chairs it seems

[tiny zealot]

(CP) is there a way to restrict a token to integers besides wrapping it in a {{Query}}?
i'm getting MapTiles > entry #1 > Position is invalid: invalid X: that token isn't restricted to integers.
the token is computed via Query

    { 
      "Name": "ShopTileX",
      "Value": "{{Query: {{Town X}} + 4}}"
    },```
but barfs when i use it (Y is defined similarly)
`"Position": {"X": "{{ShopTileX}}", "Y": "{{ShopTileY}}"},`

if i move it out of DT and just use the Query directly in Position it works fine

[oblique meadow]

I’m going to use the feedback you gave them and stubborn my way through it

[calm nebula]

Try the round token?

[obtuse wigeon]

Is there a way to prevent smapi console from closing when the game closes/crashes? having an error about writing to protected memory but the console isn't open for long enough to see why and it doesn't show in the log (which is expected, it's not a smapi error but it is caused by a mod I think)

[maiden wigeon]

I’m gonna try to make an npc later 👀 specifically someone to live on that rock at the beach

[brave fable]

a crab....

[obtuse wigeon]

a star fish?

oh wait that's under the rock

[maiden wigeon]

I’m sorry to message right after you, I just don’t know anything - you could try the modded tech support though

[obtuse wigeon]

No need to be sorry at all dont worry! It's not an issue in the slightest

[lucid iron]

Start smapi in same terminal

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh gotcha thank you!

[maiden wigeon]

yes and you can catch it and then the npc is permagone

[twilit quest]

Good morning, my friends

I will attempt not to say anything silly this morning. ^_^

[obtuse wigeon]

Okay it seems my issue only occurs when running through steam.. odd

Morning glymr!

[tiny zealot]

thanks!

[lucid mulch]

Query is unique in that it turns BypassesContextValidation on, which makes all the logic that cares about integers or boolean shut up.

Round might work, but I think it might blow up if its ever possible to be in a state where its not ready and thus not always be a number, as the stuff thats usually sensitive to int/bool might care about that

[twilit quest]

I have a question: I would like to create a mod where a player can enter a string of text via config. I'd like to be able to limit this string to a certain number of characters, and to not have to worry about things like commas. (Normally in config, it allows commas to separate values or doesn't allow them, but they aren't ignored.) I would be grateful for suggestions as to how to process the config input with these parameters in mind. ^_^

(I promise, this has nothing to do with chairs! XD )

[oblique meadow]

Eventually; everything comes back to chairs

[tiny zealot]

i have a bunch of coordinates like this that are all offset from a base position which is just raw integers so i'm not too concerned outside of wrong editing by an end-user

[hard fern]

Making chairs general

[lucid mulch]

The code thats sensitive to type and thus does the extra static validation that its the correct type isn't the biggest fan of it ever at runtime having the chance of being wrong.
the error of that token isn't restricted to integers. isn't the patch running and finding a non-integer, its during the initial patch parsing and I'm not 100% sure if a dynamic token on first load will initialize with a sane value enough to survive those checks

[inland rain]

@obtuse wigeon it's up!

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/36906

[stoic elbow]

me: wants diluc in SDV. There is no diluc mod in sdv. me, with zero (0) coding experience: I'll make my own mod!

[twilit quest]

Is it possible to escape commas in config entries? Either player entry or processing afterward?

[obtuse wigeon]

WOOO first download here I come

[hard fern]

Are you Looking for a tutorial for making an npc?

[stoic elbow]

I've already found one, but I'm looking for a way to get the json file

[lucid mulch]

If you are talking a cp token which interprets "1,2,3" as being a set with 3 values, you can use {{Render {{MyToken}} }} and it'll now be a single string but depending what you pass it into, might reinterpret it as a list again

[hard fern]

Wdym get the json file

Do you not know how to just make one

[twilit quest]

Thank you

[stoic elbow]

i have no idea :') bro I just downloaded sublime text

[hard fern]

Well i think thats a good place to start?

[stoic elbow]

is it better to find an npc template to work off of? like another custom npc mod and then go through the code fixing dialogue and and all the other stuff. or is it better to write your own from scratch?

better as in easier

[hard fern]

I would suggest reading the content patcher tutorial on the wiki first, it has some basic information on how to setup a mod i think. Of course an npc is not that simple and requires a number of different parts but it's good to start small if you've never done it before

[obtuse wigeon]

There exists a template already!

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[hard fern]

Yep

[obtuse wigeon]

Third option is the template

[hard fern]

And i would suggest starting from scratch tbh

[obtuse wigeon]

If starting from scratch you'd get a much better idea about how NPCs work and what you can and can't do with them

[stoic elbow]

oh ok, that makes sense

alright, I'll start from looking at how content patcher first. Thank you!

[tiny zealot]

lmao somehow my map patch gets vincent stuck in one spot, where he repeatedly greets my NPC for about two hours. the NPC leaves but vincent never gets unstuck

[hard fern]

[round timber]

caught in a time loop

[dusky sail]

He's just people watching

[hard fern]

Hm.. do i want to start modding first thing in the morning...

[dusky sail]

Its not his fault the only person is the farmer

Its always a good time to work on stardew mods

[humble timber]

[tiny zealot]

ok it turns out i parked a truck where he likes to square walk, so that's on me

[humble timber]

LMAO???

[undone fable]

gang is it possible to make custom skintones via contentpatcher without replacing already existing ones

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't think so, I believe they're hard coded

[lucid iron]

You have to replace existing ones but you can make them configurable i think

[obtuse wigeon]

It might be a better idea to see if there's a framework that you can use to register new ones along side the vanilla ones if you really want to not replace vanilla ones, but Chu's idea may be better

[undone fable]

alright, thank you! might just go with chu's idea then, less work

[inland rain]

can't you just extend the "Characters\Farmer\skinColors" file?

I think you can just add pixels at the bottom

"hasDarkSkin" is hard coded to specific pixels though

oh yeah it also limits it to 24 colours

so extending doesn't work

[gray bear]

there is a framework

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/22797

I think it does what u need?

[forest thunder]

guys is there a mod that shows the exp u get everytime u kill/mine/fish or something like that

[obtuse wigeon]

I think UIInfoSuite2 or Experience Bars do it?

[forest thunder]

also a mod that shows the item value

[obtuse wigeon]

UIInfoSuite2 shows an experience bar corrisponding to the tool you're holding, and when you hover over it with your cursor it gives a numerical value

CJB Cheats or UIInfoSuite2 shows item sell value I think, but theres also a vanilla option, a book bought from the book guy behind joja mart

[forest thunder]

k ty

[obtuse wigeon]

@inland rain I noticed the source for StardewOpenWorld (SOW) has the GMCM API file, however ingame there is no GMCM for SOW, is this intentional? I don't see it saying it does support GMCM but it does have a decent amount of configs available to be changed, (Also no major bugs so far! just nit picky ones that are more balence than bug, although I haven't tested the landmark features yet though)

[inland rain]

there should be a mod enable toggle I think? I didn't add any others yet

[obtuse wigeon]

I don't remember seeing any entry in GMCM at all? after changing a few options I'll have another look incase I missed it entirely

[twilit quest]

@undone fable #making-mods-general message

[obtuse wigeon]

Also is the source on github the entire source for the mod? I feel like I'm missing something as I can't actually find any reference to the config values (specifically the "Debug" option, just wondering what it does)

[twilit quest]

Can you please tell me where I can find out more about {{Render {{token}} }}? I'm looking for documentation on it, but "render" is unfortunately used to refer to a lot of graphic stuff in SDV

[obtuse wigeon]

I did miss it, the entry is quite clearly there I'm just blind it would seem

[somber canopy]

I want to add the furniture item ArtPhoto to the farm house, by adding it in tiled's map properties, but it's insisting on an integer & the only source I've found that lists item IDs has ArtPhoto as its id. Is there an integer ID for this item or can I just not add it?

[latent mauve]

Currently Farmhouse furniture items only support integer IDs, that is on the list to be fixed in the upcoming 1.6.16 whenever that gets released though.

So for now, you can't use any furniture that has a string ID as a starting furniture in the farmhouse.

(you could get around this by mailing it to the player on day 1, though)

[vernal crest]

Since it's a CP token (you can tell because SinZ wrote it in double curly braces - the game doesn't do that) you only need to search this page: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md

[vernal crest]

I made myself a personal mod that combined a whole bunch of skintone mods and used config options to let me choose between sets. It worked pretty well so I think Chu's suggestion is a good one.

[cold marsh]

Regarding changing the values of vanilla items in vanilla shops, is this correct?{ "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Shops", "TargetField": ["ShadowShop", "Items"], "Entries": { "(O)766": { //??? "Id": "(O)766", "ItemId": "(O)766", "Price": "20" }, }, }, The commented line is what's confusing me. It's meant to be MY shop entry ID since vanilla shops do not have this line and as such I can just put whatever, right?

[lucid iron]

The key is a content patcher quirk, even though Items is a list you must edit it like a dictionary, recommended to make sure it's same as the Id

Id is arbitrary too, so just put {{ModId}}_Whatever

ItemId is the actual important field for what you be selling

[cold marsh]

Gotcha, thanks.

[sleek flint]

Does anyone know where the content for Caroline's tea house is?

[lucid iron]

The sunroom?

Not sure what kind of content you looking for

[ivory plume]

Note that the key isn't just a quirk, it has a specific meaning. That patch means "find the entry with the ID (O)766, then add or replace it with this value".

For example, you can do things like this:

"Entries": {
    // delete entry '(O)766' if it exists, then add/replace it with (O)128
    "(O)766": {
       "Id": "(O)128",
       "ItemId": "(O)128"
    }
}

[gray bear]

Pathos your gradient role reminds me of watermelon

you are meant to change, why are u like this

why do i have a feeling strings can't have underscores

oh wait, I-

didn't set strings right

[twilit quest]

Thank you!

[cold marsh]

Another question. What's the difference between TargetField and Fields here? I see mods using either{ "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Objects", "TargetField": [ 684 ], "Entries": { "Price": 24 }, }, { "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Objects", "Fields": { "684": { "Price": 24 }, },

[royal stump]

In that context (a single "top-level" field), Fields and TargetField both work the same

• Entries would be bad here, because it'd overwrite everything to default values except Price
• Fields only edits the included top-level fields, so in this case, it just edits Price
• TargetField lets you zoom in on a particular field to any "depth" and apply your entries/fields there; in this case, it just means "edit Price"
  (or rather, zoom into 684 and edit its fields like separate entries)

[calm nebula]

Those two are equivalent

[cold marsh]

Good to know, thanks again.

[gray bear]

buh

why it do that

can i make this two lines and fix this somehow

[royal stump]

you can try \n, as in ...come for?\nWho made him?

I'm not sure if it works there, but it does in some boxes

[gray bear]

oh no, that's meant to be from
well only one way t find out

thank you <3

[patent lance]

@uncut viper: fix the thing (8h ago)

[hard fern]

🤔 i can't use tokens in i18n, can i

Like for the lines themselves

[gray bear]

nope

[hard fern]

Hmm i guess i can just make two different versions of a line and have the player's honorific change based on gender

But thats work

And i hate work

[uncut viper]

you can pass a token into the i18n

[hard fern]

Wait i can?

[uncut viper]

I'm on mobile so can't really get the link easily but check the content patcher translation docs

[hallow prism]

yes

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/translations.md#can-i-use-content-patcher-tokens-in-i18n-files

you can also use tokens to have two different translation lines (like i18n : mykey{{token}} ) and have a mykeytrue mykeyfalse

[gray bear]

wowie

[hallow prism]

(for example, depends of what your token is)

[gray bear]

didn't know this was a thing

[hard fern]

wowwww thats amazing...

[hallow prism]

yeah i'm not too sure why it's not more known now

i use both approach depending of what i need

[urban patrol]

does this ${male^female}$ ${male^female^non-binary}$ format work for i18n?

[gray bear]

i jsut sometimes add {{season}} to make shit easier

[hallow prism]

it's a game format so it should work in translation

but it's a bit unrelated to the tokens needs

[gray bear]

what time would you say it becoming evening in stardew

[urban patrol]

i assumed it might be helpful if it’s just for a word replacement (and if it worked) lol

[urban patrol]

7pm

[hard fern]

i pretty much just want to patch like the "Mr." in something like "Mr. Farmer"

[gray bear]

so this is legal?

[gray bear]

and that in code would be like 1900?

[hard fern]

ye

[urban patrol]

yeah then you can write ”Hello ${Mr^Mrs^Mx}$ Farmer!”

[hard fern]

the third one wont show though

[urban patrol]

yeah not unless the player has a gender neutral mod installed

[hard fern]

i want my lines to just work without needing it

so thats why im opting for token shenanigans

[urban patrol]

i see!

are you doing it via config?

[hard fern]

yeah, a config for just "gender neutral"

lol

[urban patrol]

nice

[hard fern]

cuz there's some specific things i want to do that depends on the player's gender

(mainly npc related)

[urban patrol]

ooh cool

i’ve thought about doing gender related stuff when it comes to NPCs’ sexualities but not sure i want to deal with the headache, even if the character is canonically gay

[zenith robin]

Does speed grow or agriculturist affect how long a crop takes to regrow? I am working on a mod that allows for a false speed grow to be applied to a crop on top of normal speedgrow/fertilizer and am unsure if I should also be changing how long crops take to regrow.

[hard fern]

i get it... the thing i want is like.. pretty complicated in general so im not sure if i'd be able to pull it off (like i know it's technically possible but do i have the willpower/sanity/etc to do it)

[urban patrol]

yeah it’s a tough balancing act lol

[brittle pasture]

crop regrow is not affected by anything

[zenith robin]

I didn't think so, I couldn't find anything about it being changed.

[brittle pasture]

Ultimate Fertilizer has a setting to make fertilizer speed boost also apply to regrow, and what it does is directly reducing the days upon crop harvest

[zenith robin]

Alright, thanks.

[hard fern]

for one, i want the npc's gender to be a config... and then i want them to have a slightly different relationship with the player based on the player's gender.. so with those options, a male npc x female player would act slightly differently to a female npc x female player... i imagine it'll be a lot of work and will probably only satisfy my heart's wish of having like 5 different relationship dynamics in one npc

i'll burn that bridge when i get to it (something something incorrect phrase)

[urban patrol]

i believe in you!

[lucid iron]

You can manage all that with a dt i think

[hard fern]

😔 the problem is moreso the writing/event part

[lucid iron]

Ah well the struggle continues

[hard fern]

well for now i plan to work with a teeny baby version of that giant idea

[gray bear]

writing shakes fist

[mortal leaf]

I did step one

I'm not sure if I can just make it a "sceptre" instead. Sword does sword things lol.

[whole raptor]

Anyone knows if the requester in Special order can be left blank or be someone that does not exist? Or maybe it doesn't matter at all?

[royal stump]

afaict, it's safe to leave null, unless it's a Deliver order (no NPC to deliver to) and for Friendship rewards (may actually error, not sure)
it'll leave the emoji icon on the board blank but shouldn't otherwise matter

actually nvm about the friendship part; it uses the requester if it can't find "TargetName", but if you specify who gets the friendship, it should be fine

[urban patrol]

can i use the event precondition SawEvent with the ID of a fork, or is it only with actual events?

i know i can get around it by setting a mail flag if need be

[calm nebula]

Only actual events

[whole raptor]

I'm making a donate quest given through mail, so it's shouldn't be a problem, thanks

[worn oar]

where are the crop sprites? like the growth stages. I cant find them

[gray bear]

tilesheets/crops iirc

[worn oar]

I dont see them in vpr's folders

[gray bear]

then vpr might not edit them

[uncut viper]

why are you looking in VPRs folders for the games assets

[worn oar]

bc I want to edit something

[ornate trellis]

vpr does not edit the crops

[worn oar]

oh ok ty must be something else then'

[gentle rose]

@safe kraken gave me new toys portraits to test out my revolutionary new "blinking and talking at the same time" technology

[safe kraken]

Oh I see the overlay it's active since the beginning! I was thinking of making it a 3 frame blink so I may need to add a blank overlay to keep the default eyes

I'm basically copying Persona, where they do a 3 frame animation xD

[hard fern]

hm abigail is that you

really funny how abby is the default test dummy for mods too

this is what she gets for her name starting with "ab"

if not then it would probably be alex

[brittle pasture]

too bad for her a-aron isn’t a character

[uncut viper]

(Haley is my default for modding because she is my wife 😌)

[lucid iron]

I use krobus unless i need romance

[latent mauve]

Krobus in a trenchcoat is my test for custom NPCs because the assets already exist and won't get confused with the others running around town

[whole raptor]

@rapid pond Hi! I noticed that in the latest Eugene update you included compatibility with Rasmodia (thanks for that!). Ages ago I also added compatibility on my side, but tbh I'm not sure if it's fully up to date, but am I safe to assume that it's fully handled on your side now? If so I could delete it from Rasmodia itself, since rn Rasmodia overwrites 3 of the events in Eugene.

[whole raptor]

Abby sure changes a lot lately

[gentle rose]

identity crisis

[gentle rose]

oh yeah, I wasn't sure how you wanted them configured so I just did this, but if you want a blank one most of the time then actually my next step is to make sure you can do this without actually making a blank frame!

[hard fern]

(im about to steal abby's sprites for testing out my npc just to make sure they work lol)

[safe kraken]

I was thinking of trying to make it like this, it would be kinda the default portrait, semiclosed and closed

[hard fern]

(this is a persona girl i can't quite remember the name of right now. Mitsuru?)

[safe kraken]

Yeh

I love her design so much (I have a weakness for readheads)

[hard fern]

XD

[safe kraken]

When I make an NPC I will make her a redhead

[hard fern]

i think most of my npcs all have brown hair...

wait a second

they literally all do

[safe kraken]

I think you found your type /j

[hard fern]

well, it's not one of the most common hair colors for nothing

if not the most common

[safe kraken]

That or black, but most likely brown yeah

Now that I think about it I'm torn between red or pink hair

[hard fern]

even the characters i drew who have dyed hair, their natural hair color is brown XD

[safe kraken]

I think I usually do more black as a default, I'll have to look how many characters have black hair in SDV cause rn I can't remember one

[hard fern]

sebastian, and that's it im pretty sure. idk if you want to consider shane/jas as having black hair or not. im not sure what color linus and lewis's hair was when they were young though

[safe kraken]

I guess morris

could also count?

[hard fern]

damn i forgot he existed

[safe kraken]

I had to look at the wiki tbh

[hard fern]

oh, and ...gunther, i guess?

[safe kraken]

Oh yeah Gunther

More than I thought